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0:29Rod Palmer The Bugle is the world's premier news agency. They are the Bitcoin standard of news. Dieter is a pussy and lying sack of shit. I can't believe that Geist wanna upset me in the elite. Eight. I can't wait for next year. I'm coming back with bots. I would have won if I went on Peter's podcast at least three more times. I like Bitcoin, so and I don't know why they didn't put me on the bracket. If they did, I would have easily won. I am the best Bitcoiner in the world. Now buy my ordnance. Come. Never trust a yellow cat. I'm seriously upset that I did not win March Maxi Madness.

1:06Unknown I am the king of the PodConf and deserve the recognition. Do you think we would have had such strong price appreciation if it wasn't for me?

1:13Unknown The Bugle is easily the most important journalistic institution around today. They make up literally everything they write, and yet it is somehow all true.

1:23Rod Palmer Now you all better let the Google do the thinking for you. Life is too damn hard to do all the thinking yourself.

1:34Richard Greaser So, Rod, I was thinking that we should turn this into, like, a long form podcast like Lex Fridman has because he's so brilliant. Yeah. I think that's a really good idea.

1:47Rod Palmer But the best thing about podcasts are when they're like three or four hours long. You just monotonously talk about a really specific niche topic. I think that's how you grow your audience most effectively.

2:01Richard Greaser Yeah, I mean, the really nice part about having a podcast that long is how many advertisements that you can fit into it.

2:09Rod Palmer That's true. The AudCon is a giant monster, and the only way to defeat them is to get enough sponsors. Sponsors for your podcast and then to basically make enough money to take them down. If you can get, you know, any kind of words

2:29Rod Palmer worth of commercials or ads in your four hour podcast, that is like a month's worth of ads on what Bitcoin did.

2:41Richard Greaser So speaking of what Bitcoin did, I'm calling it right now. I guarantee that as we progress into the bull market, Peter McCormick's podcast episodes are gonna become progressively longer.

2:55Rod Palmer That's something to start paying attention to. We should timestamp whatever let's look go back and look at what how long his podcast episodes were in December, right before the ETFs were approved, And they compare

3:09Rod Palmer what they are over the course of the rest of this year and how many natives are dedicated to to sponsors. He's got minor sponsors. He's got Swan. He's got

3:24Rod Palmer there's some other ones too.

3:28Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, the the really interesting thing, I I don't listen to a lot of podcasts. I feel like you listen to a lot of podcasts

3:36Rod Palmer when you first get into Bitcoin, but then you hear the same ideas replicated.

3:43Richard Greaser Like, there there's like a point in your journey where you have the awakening that everybody that you're listening to

3:52Rod Palmer on podcasts, on on, like, Fountain are lizard people, or they're they're like

3:58Richard Greaser machine robots from another planet sent here to infiltrate the Bitcoin ecosystem and just say the same ideas over and over again?

4:08Rod Palmer Right. When you once you've had your you've taken your orange pill, it's fully dissolved in your stomach, and you are now like a crazy Bitcoiner, you stop listening to podcasts, I think you migrate naturally to spaces. The spaces is where the really good, nuanced, genuine conversation takes place. Podcasts,

4:28Rod Palmer those people don't know what they're talking about. I mean, obviously, this is a podcast, so there's a little tongue in cheek comment there. But if you really want good, genuine intellectual conversation, you've got to go to spaces.

4:45Richard Greaser Yeah, I mean there's a lot of really smart people in spaces like Hoddle Magoo.

4:52Rod Palmer Mike Alfred?

4:53Richard Greaser Mike Alfred. Dennis Porter does, quite a few Twitter spaces.

4:59Rod Palmer Right, and we've got like the, you've got the morning, like, meeting day spaces, You've got the the hour spaces. Those are prerecorded. We found out. Shout out to y'all for, taking the easy way out. But there's just so many different spaces. Everybody gets to contribute to the conversation.

5:19Rod Palmer And honestly, it's it's remarkable because nobody waste anybody else's time. It's all very respectful and very, very nuanced discussion. And that's why I think if you're in that part of your journey, you're kind of like, man, these these podcasts are too hard to keep up with this shit. Check out spaces. Honestly, the the smaller the room, the better. It's like almost like an intimate comedy club. There's only like five or six people in there and they will laugh at whatever you say. In the spaces, they'll give you the best feedback on your thoughts. They'll be very respectful about it as well.

6:01Richard Greaser Yeah. It's like Twitter spaces, especially really big ones. Or, I'd if if I was a newcomer to Bitcoin, where I would point you is I would tell you to go ask questions in the triple elite meme spaces. Exactly. Because they're very they're very knowledgeable about Bitcoin

6:20Rod Palmer and

6:22Richard Greaser they might you might not be able to understand anything that they're saying. This is a problem, every time I go into one of their spaces and it's all unintelligible to me, but you'll probably pick up some good things about Bitcoin.

6:35Rod Palmer No, it's when you first get to a space that's run by like triple elite memes, you're not gonna know what the fuck they're talking about. However, it's because they're way smarter than you and you start looking up these words, you start to research these terms and you start to get it. And that's like your, it's like an educational journey in and of itself.

6:56Richard Greaser Yeah, I mean, you have to learn about terms like wooden door and go into history and research topics.

7:04Rod Palmer That's why. Right, and it's really a lot more rewarding and a lot more, you get a lot more value out of it when you take what you've learned from the lead need spaces and you go and you talk to your family and friends about it and you tell them, tell your grandmother or your children what you learned from them. It is just it helps you to learn it, to to teach it to somebody else. It just reinforces the value that you're getting from most spaces.

7:35Rod Palmer Yeah, I kind of feel like,

7:38Richard Greaser Triple Elite memes is kind of like the Hell's Angels where they're like these like tough looking guys. They're a meme gang, you know? But there's times they'll do public outreach. They'll go volunteer together for a charity dinner on Thanksgiving when they're not committing their meme gang crimes.

8:01Rod Palmer It's almost similar to like The Wire when, Omar has taken his grandmother to church and the rival gangs, they decide not to keep the hit that they put on him because you don't violate like those conventions and those rituals and traditions like taking your grandmother to church on Sunday, right? Dang banging is for, you know, the weekdays. Same with the meme gangs, like dang banging happens online in real life. Really respectful dudes take care, they get charity, they take care of the homeless, they take care of the poor.

8:36Rod Palmer Yeah, just overall top notch dudes.

8:41Richard Greaser Yeah. Not everybody thinks that about triple elite memes though. They definitely have some enemies, but I guess that's just part of the nature of, you know, living a life of crime like they do.

8:56Rod Palmer Yeah, they say if you don't make a few enemies, you're probably not. You're probably not reaching your potential. No. Well, so for the first week of the podcast, we did pretty good. We had 337

9:15Rod Palmer downloads, and it's only been, I think, four days. We're we're recording early on Thursday. Wow. It makes me wonder how much work is getting done in the Bitcoin space because I have a feeling that most of our listeners are in the industry. And I think,

9:39Rod Palmer probably of those three thirty seven downloads, three thirty of them were Bitcoin magazine. So I don't know if they're going to make their next, their next publication. They're gonna miss deadlines.

9:53Richard Greaser I actually have the analytics on this. And, what it's telling me is that we have 90% of our listeners are CEOs of different companies. Wow. Like Rob Hamilton at AnchorWatch.

10:09Rod Palmer Okay. Do they have customers yet?

10:14Richard Greaser I don't even know what they do. They like make Fitbits but for Bitcoin?

10:18Rod Palmer Is that what it is? No, no, no. I thought it was anchor, right? Like I think if you had Baltimore for example would have actually hired them, they probably would see that that shit, if the anchor wasn't down. And it wouldn't have crashed into that bridge. So honestly, that makes me conspiracy minded, like, is that a new side job to quote anchor insurance?

10:47Richard Greaser I don't think so. Oh? I mean, that's a pretty interesting take, but like I think the reality here Rod is that like bridges getting crashed into by container ships. That's just a prophecy from Atlas Shrugged.

11:03Rod Palmer Oh, that's right. That's right. You wrote about that.

11:07Richard Greaser Like this is one of the sign offs, like, us as real journalists in the industry really have to counter

11:13Rod Palmer is that,

11:17Richard Greaser these things aren't done out of malice, like all the planes falling apart in the skies with Boeing, it's not done out of malice, but it's done because the politicians just killed everybody's brains.

11:33Rod Palmer I I was That's why I, like actually, I heard this in a space that Boeing, in order to save money, they hired most of their engineers, and they're, like, really highly skilled talented workers. And they actually just went to some of the traveling schools and they hired employees to be the people that manufactured their plants, which that I don't know if that's true. That's just speculation I heard in spaces. But if it came from spaces, I would say there's a nine 99%

12:06Rod Palmer chance that it is correct. And so that's what we'll get into. I mean, I think they blurred out a lot of the faces in that, you know, undercover investigation that they did, but it'd be interesting to see how many of those guys had all their teeth. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, you gotta

12:28Rod Palmer you gotta hire people some way. People don't wanna work these days, you know? That's true.

12:36Richard Greaser But, yeah, I'll go so, like, the thing that, like, all the podcasters do that are, that claim to be against the PodConf, is that they read the fountain boost at the beginning of the episode.

12:50Rod Palmer They read the what? The fountain boost. Oh, that's right. So It's like, do we want to do that? Or is that too pod top?

13:06Richard Greaser Well, I I think, like, the whole purpose of it is, like, you read it because people wanna listen to the show and hear what you say. And so, like, if we're gonna be earning cigarette money off of this podcast

13:20Rod Palmer without sponsors, we have to like read their what they say to encourage them to do it again. You know what I mean? We should we should incentivize, our listeners to to pay us.

13:37Richard Greaser Yes, I agree. We need to be scamming our listeners for as many said. Don't worry, I'll edit this out afterwards. Like we don't want our readers to know that we're scamming them for Bitcoin and smoking a bunch of cigarettes.

13:51Rod Palmer Don't, don't, just don't call it scamming, just call it building a community.

13:57Richard Greaser We're building a community and we're evangelizing the truth.

14:02Rod Palmer Speaking speaking of cigarettes, I I had an epiphany last night. I decided that I'm no longer anti well, wouldn't let me put it this way. I would be open to the metaverse and the virtual reality future as long as you can smoke there. You can smoke cigarettes in the metaverse.

14:24Rod Palmer I'll take a visit.

14:28Richard Greaser Alright. I'd give it a try. I mean, I know Oodie was into that shit.

14:36Rod Palmer Yeah. I won't tell much so. Go ahead.

14:40Richard Greaser Oodie Oodie's the type of guy though that would try and, like, ban smoking in the metaverse. And the way that he would do it wouldn't be by coursing you out of smoking. What he would do is he would fill every single virtual room with water so you couldn't light a cigarette in it.

15:00Rod Palmer That part of the metaphor for what he's doing to the blockchain?

15:05Richard Greaser Yeah, there's a lot of discussion on that. Alright, so, let's get into the news. So, Rob one ham, who I assume is, Rob

15:17Richard Greaser at the the anchor watch insurance company for ship anchors boosted us with

15:25Rod Palmer 21,000 sats and said, finally some real journalism and Bitcoin. It's about damn time, that's what I'll say. Yeah, he's not wrong there.

15:38Richard Greaser I mean, our first week, we're already hitting the same numbers that the New York Times podcast gets.

15:45Rod Palmer That's true. I mean, and we were close to having, you know, a point to buy a card with cigarettes. I could get this through two or three days. That'd be great. I mean, either either we got

16:04Rod Palmer the amount of, donations we're getting on Fountain. We have to there's the frequency that we put this podcast out so we can kind of stay stay in sync with our cigarette habit.

16:18Richard Greaser Yeah. The next boost is John from Ungovernable Misfits. He gave us, 21,000

16:28Richard Greaser sats. And, I'll I'll have to look up this acronym because I don't I'm not very good with them off the bat, but it says LFG exclamation point

16:39Richard Greaser exclamation point exclamation point.

16:42Rod Palmer That stands for lighting is freaking great. So he sent us sats over lighting.

16:48Richard Greaser It's it's good, it's good that he's a fan of lightning. The the next the next guy is not a fan of lightning, but he sent us 5,000 sats on lightning, and it's, this guy named Barn Miner.

17:05Rod Palmer You think he used, custodial lightning to do that?

17:09Richard Greaser Yeah, I think he probably used custodial Lightning.

17:14Rod Palmer Dad? I think I've seen him on Twitter before, he seems like a custodial Lightning guy.

17:19Richard Greaser I think, I think he's a big fan of running Lightning nodes in particular, like I know he's an expert and, has never lost any lightning by running nodes. Like only

17:34Rod Palmer oh go ahead. I was gonna say, if he wants to come on the show and talk to us, I'd like I'd be curious to find out his thoughts and if he plans to run one of those Taproot nodes, Taproot Lightning nodes so they can, you could trade all kinds of assets on those taproot nodes, like stable coins, Tether, other like NFTs.

17:56Rod Palmer He might be interested in something like that. Might be curious, maybe he could do a tutorial or some sort of BTC sessions like explanation for how others can enable their Lightning nodes to send Tether.

18:13Richard Greaser Wow. That'd be great. I mean, hopefully, like before he does that though, he goes and complies

18:18Rod Palmer and gets a, money transmitter license for his note. Yeah. Yeah. First of all, we should probably put that out there. If you want to be a guest on the Google Weekly, you have to be compliant. We we will not, we don't have time for noncompliance. The next guy is

18:41Richard Greaser a probably a good complier. I'm not sure who this is, but his name

18:44Rod Palmer is Firstless. He boosted us for 5,000 sets.

18:49Richard Greaser And then, Buddy QW, he was actually the first person that brought me on his podcast.

18:57Rod Palmer He sent us 5,000 sets. He's a cool dude. He's big into noster, quiet warrior. Nice. I see Wojmoor. They boosted us. They were sharing, they really liked the podcast intro.

19:15Richard Greaser Yeah. I don't blame him enough. It was a pretty good intro.

19:19Rod Palmer If you actually if, for anybody out there, you should check out OrangeMort. It's kind of a cool I'm really hopeful. It's not like Minecraft or Fortnite, but it's it's one of those big giant worlds with all these different awesome things you can build, but it's all Bitcoin related. So you can, like, go

19:39Rod Palmer around and instead of, like, killing somebody and taking their treasure, you can, like, exchange media, like, hey, lightning invoices inside the game frequently.

19:54Richard Greaser I'll have to try it out. I don't know if I'll be able to run it on my typewriter, Lew.

19:60Rod Palmer Yeah, that might cause the typewriter to overheat. Because it's a decentralized server system, so you rely on locally.

20:10Richard Greaser I like this. Let's let's take turns reading these. I think that's the best way to do it. Okay. So this this next guy, he's non compliant. His name is Gulag Bound, which signals that he's compliant or non compliant because you don't go to the Gulag unless

20:26Rod Palmer you're non compliant. But he said, y'all have been in the Gulag for too long.

20:32Richard Greaser No, sir. You have been in the gulag too long. We are free because we comply and don't get put in the gulag.

20:41Rod Palmer Exactly. If you listen to our first episode all the way through, you realize that by comply by self compliance, by by complying for the state to make you comply. That's how you stay for free. Next, you already mentioned QW. We got user one seven nine seven zero zero. That's a really cool username. I don't know how you've bought that app, but thank you for the 100¢.

21:10Rod Palmer I think that we're seeing things in different orders. I think it's tattoo. Well, that doesn't work out very well. There's also Chad, You give him those two boosts, one for a thousand sats and one for 3,333

21:28Rod Palmer sats, and he goes, I randomly saw you post a podcast on podcastingindex.org. You post a screenshot, so I searched for your podcast, and here I am. Haven't even hit play yet, but I love your content already, so here's some sats. Well, thank you. I've been honestly, that's my favorite type of fan. Somebody who doesn't even listen, they just pay me. Yeah. It was pretty cool.

21:53Richard Greaser I don't know why he would do that. It seems like a bad idea.

21:59Rod Palmer You know, it's I always say it's worth it to send your SaaS, send them to somebody without really having any guarantees that you're gonna get your product or your service back. Just that that's what this community is about, right? Like, you don't have to trust the other person on chain, but you but you get to trust them in other ways.

22:26Rod Palmer Yeah, that makes sense.

22:30Richard Greaser Oh, all right. Well,

22:34Rod Palmer I get why we're gonna have to come up with some rule for this because if we get a bunch of these, users. If if we get too many, it'll start to become dust. We'll essentially have to call it dust. So we'll have to put a limit unless you donate x amount of sats. You risk not making it into the show.

22:58Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, we run we run a lightning node built on top of not. So there's filtering built into our lightning.

23:08Rod Palmer That's good. Alright. First order of news today. So Sam Bankman Fried was sentenced to twenty five years in federal prison.

23:24Rod Palmer And my first thought on it was that he should have complied harder and avoided the situation entirely. I mean, I was kind of the shot over the bow warning to the custodial companies, to all the companies in general,

23:40Rod Palmer that you can comply and have success, you can comply and get rich, or, you know, you can go to jail.

23:51Richard Greaser He, he did a really, really good job of funding politicians. But you can only get so far funding politicians if you're not complying.

24:07Rod Palmer Right, you can't. It's, you can't do one without the other. In our industry, there's very, very important regulations that people must follow to ensure that their products are safe.

24:23Rod Palmer It's eight or eight out of these regulations so that if a company is following those regulations and they are a regulated public company or just private company that is public facing and maybe they're connected to the banking system, that means they're regulated. That means that you don't have to

24:45Rod Palmer worry about looking at the, you know, the company's board. You don't have to worry about looking at the investors in the company. You don't have to worry about looking at the code if they're if they have a, you know, a digital product. You can trust that that company is safe. They have your best interests FR and that your funds are safe. It's the companies that don't comply

25:10Rod Palmer that you have to be very suspicious of.

25:15Richard Greaser Yeah. I think one of the, like, first things that you should be looking at a company like, if I were an investor, like Mike Alfred, and I wasn't on one of the initial seed rounds and I was looking at a company, let's say, like, Swan Bitcoin, for example, just because they're a big company and they're raising money periodically. But you could say the same thing. I would ask the same thing of Jack Mallers at Strike,

25:44Richard Greaser is how many employees do you have in your HR department? And are you currently meeting or exceeding industry expected DEI?

25:59Rod Palmer That'd be good point. I wrote an article this week about DEI and some companies, not all companies have scrapped DEI yet, so some companies still have DEI and they still have ESG. A lot of them are considering consolidating those departments into a compliance department.

26:17Rod Palmer And, of course, as I reported Voltage, the lightning infrastructure company, just hired Charlie Schrem, to be their chief compliance officer. Hey, first of all, if you are somebody who is really good at compliance, you should probably check, you know, LinkedIn and the job boards because I have a feeling a lot of these Bitcoin companies are going to start having openings with chief compliance officers.

26:46Rod Palmer But chief compliance officers, they don't do the job on their own. They need, as you mentioned, human resources employees. And I think that the key to success in this next cycle and then going forward as as we start to get to this hyperbitcoinization, assuming companies comply hard enough,

27:06Rod Palmer you're gonna see just long jobs that AI eliminates can be replaced by will be replaced by the need for human resources and compliance departments.

27:19Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, human resources is one of the most important it's the cornerstone of a compliant company

27:29Rod Palmer without it. Yeah. Absolutely. And if you if you want to find out how important and how intelligent and how valuable human resources is, I challenge you to just do this with a simple task. Spend one hour in a terrible elite memes,

27:45Rod Palmer spaces on Twitter, and then go and have a conversation about what you learned with your company's human resources officer and I think you will realize like

27:58Rod Palmer they won't get a promotion from that honestly. They might see how much you've learned and how much skill you may have to offer that they are not appropriately leveraging. You may do the job, so just go listen to Turku Elite memes. I think they're talking about some meme coin right now. Learn a little about that and then explain it to the HR person at your job.

28:21Rod Palmer Yeah.

28:23Richard Greaser I know a lot of people are wondering who the next Sam Bankman freed in the industry is going to be and there's a lot of speculation, there's a lot of big shitcoin exchanges that were just like FTX. But one red flag that I saw this week was, Jack Mallard's at Strike. He did a stream on CNBC,

28:45Richard Greaser and his closet was entirely filled with Jordans and Gucci clothing.

28:52Rod Palmer Yeah, that's a little bit worrying. Not only so let's look at the fact pattern here as a lawyer would say. He he moved his company overseas. He used to be a United States based company and they moved it to a Central America. He moved it to El Salvador.

29:10Rod Palmer They have a different rules about compliance down there and I let me tell you they're not quite as strict as The United States. So he does that. That's his first move. His second move, well, it's this is what you're talking about. It's demonstrated. He has he he's been speaking to people with this empty closet. He's for some reason, his computer and his webcam are in this empty closet because he's a he's a presumably

29:36Rod Palmer a true Bitcoiner. He he has one chair and that's just podcasting because that's kind of one exception. Sell all the chairs in your house buy Bitcoin, but if you have a podcast, you need a podcaster. So he keeps the podcaster. But now it's, you know, his his once empty closet is filling up with with the Gucci shirts, and it's it's very reminiscent of

29:60Rod Palmer of the guy from X, Richard Heart. So I love Jack, but I did something to keep an eye on.

30:11Richard Greaser It's definitely something to keep an eye on. It it could be it could be very concerning. I mean, he he could have allowed a relative to move in that was, a relative of of Baller family, And he could be sharing the closet with them. I mean, there's there's a lot of questions that, need to be asked and, some real journalism done on this topic to just make sure that

30:36Rod Palmer that we need to protect it. Yeah. I mean, as we know, Richard Heart is on the run. He is wanted by the SEC and the US government for the body committed press. Some of the stuff in Jack's closet looks like stuff that Richard might wear. Maybe he's maybe he is,

30:56Rod Palmer housing fugitive from justice. I don't know. If he knows, honestly, if Jack is housing fugitive from The US justice system, maybe that cancels out the bad things he's doing. That's kinda based.

31:09Richard Greaser As soon as I'm done recording this, I'm gonna go back to the the CNBC stream and make sure there's no gold chains in the closet because that would be the dead giveaway.

31:21Rod Palmer It would be really heartbreaking if Jack was a, was a gold pipe. Yeah. Okay.

31:35Richard Greaser I think that we need to talk about

31:39Rod Palmer March Maxi Madness. It's been a hit. It's it's it's when he he took over Twitter yesterday. Round two is taking over Twitter today. But there's,

31:54Rod Palmer some interesting, developments that kind of came up. Some interesting winners, some interesting people who didn't make the tournament. I, you know, Seifedean was at the top of the list. It turns out, Seifedean was not able to make the tournament this year. He has a torn ACL. Somebody said that he had a salad

32:17Rod Palmer for dinner a few weeks ago and may have weakened him, and then they have made him open for that injury. But the big one, from my perspective, I think this is yours too, was the

32:30Rod Palmer Becca, match up. Becca was winning that one, and then Becca was hosting the spaces with, you know, it was like a thousand people. He told everybody, go vote for me. His back is you know, he he has a speed of his back. I don't know if it started yesterday or it goes before that,

32:49Rod Palmer but he turned the ball around. They had a pretty decisive lead until this morning. When I woke up this morning and I checked Twitter, I I woke up to a big surprise and we went to tell the story what that surprise was. Becca had come back and had tied, Magoo in the polls. And somehow, I

33:14Richard Greaser don't know. I mean, she she had been tweeting it. She'd been accusing Magoo of buying votes. She she rallied all the simps of Twitter that don't realize that she's married,

33:29Rod Palmer to vote for her.

33:31Richard Greaser And then Yeah. And then Michael Saylor came in. There he is. He said that he voted for Becca.

33:41Rod Palmer And a lot of people were retweeting that, and it was, you know, it was kinda talk at Twitter this morning. But then, I'm a do you know, I maybe he has insider information. Maybe he's just trolling. Maybe he's he's onto something, but he thinks it was a CIA hit on him.

34:02Rod Palmer And there there may be connections between, Michael Sailor and the CIA. And I'm not just talking about the fact that, you know, his company, the property as the and the border that it shares with the Central Intelligence Agency headquarters. They're just right next to each other. I think that's just a coincidence, but who thinks there could be more to that?

34:27Richard Greaser Yeah. So what his tweet said exactly was he was retweeting sailors saying that he voted for Becca. And Magoo says, c I CIA rigs another election.

34:41Rod Palmer There you have it. I guess we'll wait. What the Will the audience decide that one? But at the end of the day, she moves on to the next round.

34:53Rod Palmer Who doesn't? But I I just gotta say, it feels here really similar to election day twenty twenty. We all went to sleep, thinking Trump was gonna be president again, and then we wake up and just a new a new pinch of votes just flooded in at the at the eleventh hour, and it put Biden over the top.

35:15Rod Palmer And that this that's very similar to what happened, today in that poll in the back in this poll.

35:23Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, I I know there's a lot of election deniers out there, but this is, like, a really dangerous discussion that is based in zero proof because this is a very fair and safe election. It was a safe and effective election. It was the most secure election

35:45Rod Palmer that Twitter has ever, facilitated. Yeah. I think that's a good summary of of Mateus's conspiracy theory is that, it's basically he has no proof. He is, it was a zero knowledge proof. Proofless

36:03Rod Palmer tweet. So, yeah, I mean, that was I mean, we monitored the election the entire twenty four hours that the polls were open. We did not see any evidence of fraud. We did not see any evidence of tampering. So

36:17Rod Palmer we're gonna chalk that one up to conspiracy. However, what we got here in the report's about is that this maxi nadness encouraged or has been encouraging

36:29Rod Palmer some of the little some side activities, some extracurriculars as some might call it. I'm talking about gambling. We've got reports that, Peter McCormick, Tone Vays and several others,

36:44Rod Palmer they've been betting on who's going to win these matchups. And I've even heard that Peter and Tone have been financing meme gangs to to create memes and to interview other podcasters to interview

36:59Rod Palmer some of these, contestants in Axie Madness to kind of boost their profile and help them in the tournament matchups because there's a lot a lot of stats on the line for these guys. When when Peter and Tom make a bet, it's not a thousand sats. It's like we're talking a 100,000 sats, a million sats. Like, this is a nice big generational wealth company.

37:25Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, I I think, like, gambling markets being spun off of this is is a really good thing because gambling markets were one of the first things people use Bitcoin for. So it's it's it's nice to hear, but, you know, when you're the organization

37:45Richard Greaser putting on a free and fair election like this and there's gambling happen. There's there's different incentives. So it just sounds like we need to be super hyper vigilant and very transparent, with the people. We want them to have faith in our democracy.

38:02Rod Palmer And, I mean, we've had election watchers this whole time, so they should just trust them. Exactly. And you mentioned that one of the earliest use cases of Bitcoin was gambling.

38:20Rod Palmer And I just want people to think about it. So I just listened to why Grass Fed Bitcoin, on Peter's show. He knew he'd be doing some convincing about ordinals when it comes to my opinion about whether they're good or bad. And a lot of people think that ordinals in ERC 20s

38:41Rod Palmer and NFTs on Bitcoin, that it's all scamming and essentially gambling. And that's true and I I think that if you wanna gamble with Bitcoin, you need to go with the traditional monetary use case route. Just gamble with your SaaS, don't gamble on the value, subjective value of individual SaaS.

39:03Rod Palmer Just gamble by, you know, if you've got 10 Bitcoin, who cares if you're under the age of 30, gamble Bitcoin on something like a Satoshi dice website or a casino. I mean, that's the way that you want to use Bitcoin.

39:20Richard Greaser Bovada is another good one that's popular. The people Let me check that out. Yeah. You can bet your Bitcoin on Australian tennis matches.

39:31Rod Palmer Wow. Yeah. I mean, at a certain point, you get so much Bitcoin that you just kind of what's the meaning of life anymore? Like, you don't have to work anymore. You can you see, you just become an nihilist and the only thing that really is left to do is gamble. And I think that Satoshi was very he was very smart to see into the future and realize that once people became it ridiculously wealthy off of Bitcoin, that they were gonna have much left, really

39:59Rod Palmer matter in their life. So they might as well just gamble it away.

40:04Richard Greaser Definitely.

40:06Rod Palmer Especially if they don't have to do it, it's like sailing. Like, if I was a sailor, I can show up to to Caesar's Palace in in in Vegas, put a 100,000 bitcoin on a, OpenDime,

40:18Rod Palmer they just put it on Blackbitty.

40:23Richard Greaser Were there any upsets that you were really surprised about in the first round, or so far in the second round?

40:30Rod Palmer Not too many big surprises. I kind of surprised that, Preston Pish beat Lynn Alden so badly. I thought that she had a pretty good pretty good shot. I didn't go back and review some of these results. There was a few others. What about you?

40:49Richard Greaser I was really surprised that Peter McCormack beat David Bailey so bad.

40:54Rod Palmer Oh, that's yeah, I that would call me off guard. In fact, I was, received some DMs this morning from industry insiders who will remain anonymous that, reported David Bailey, Dodge, Shinobi,

41:10Rod Palmer and Rizzo on a video call, like, at 8AM today, and he was just laying into them about their the pressure that he was putting on them to win this tournament for Bitcoin Magazine because I think if it would get the second round, there's a couple of people from Swan

41:30Rod Palmer that are still in the running and he and he does not want to lose this tournament, this inaugural tournament to Swan Bitcoin. I think that's just he said he thinks it's gonna set a bad precedence. I wanna leave David Daley putting the pressure on his employees. I'm fully uncoordinated.

41:49Rod Palmer I'm getting DMs from folks saying that that Corey Esman is doing the same thing. He's he's fighting fire under Sam Dallian's ass. He told him, you know, I introduced you to your wife. I made this possible. You can't let me down. Because Natalie lost in first round, so it's up to Sam, I think, and Ricky to take this one all the way.

42:09Richard Greaser Yeah. So far in the second round, I can check the live updates, actually.

42:14Rod Palmer Who is that? Sam Kellyanne. That's, like That's crazy. Big Mac Swann head to head in the second round.

42:25Richard Greaser That's crazy. Well, Guy Swann hopefully hopefully Guy Swann will go all the way, and they'll consider that a consolation. Because, like, even though he has no affiliation with Swan, his name is pretty close. And I'm sure a lot of the people that that look at his name and don't know who he is will think of Swan Bitcoin.

42:46Rod Palmer That's true. I think maybe I've heard rumors that Swan actually sued a guy in 2019 before they launched the company, and a and a guy lost. He had to add that extra n to his name. But if if he yields to, like, the final four or the championship,

43:06Rod Palmer maybe Swan drops the drops the lawsuit and let them let's add it back just for the remarketing. It'd be a huge win for the Swan family. That Are you Guy Swann's family? It's because they knew his brother, Jeff, changed it too.

43:23Richard Greaser You're saying that Corey made Guy Swann and his brother CoinJoin their last names?

43:31Rod Palmer Allegedly. Allegedly. Wow. Pure speculation. But I'd be, you know, again, when you hear information in spaces,

43:43Rod Palmer obviously we know not to trust but to verify. It's kind of an emceeum. When you hear something in spaces, you generally don't really need to verify.

43:55Richard Greaser I I just I can't get around the idea of a company going after a man's surname. Like, if somebody if a company came to me and sued me to change my name from Reeser, I don't know what I would do. That that's like that's like when you sell all your belongings and buy

44:18Richard Greaser a really, like, old Japanese bulldozer, if you know what I mean. Like, that that that'd be, like, the point I'd be at.

44:31Rod Palmer Yeah. I this is why this is why we we started this podcast, right? We're going after the podcast on France industrial complex because this is the type of behavior, the incentives

44:48Rod Palmer that these companies and these podcasters have to just go after, you know, it's not just about money. It is about money, but it's when they're willing to destroy an entire lineage, entire family name over brands.

45:04Rod Palmer It's, it's something that we need to think about and and change our behavior, I think, as an industry. I agree. That seems super fiat to me. Man,

45:20Richard Greaser I'm trying to think of other upsets. The the one upset that really blew my mind, so we had a one seed lose. And this is the first time in the entire history of the March Maxi Madness, tournament that a 16 seed upset a one seed, and Eric Cason defeated Dennis Porter.

45:43Rod Palmer Wow. Now that's that's a really interesting matchup to, like, dive into the details because on the one hand, you have a guy who is known for, you

45:58Rod Palmer know, sometimes he just snaps these guys on these really long rants. They're very rooted in anarchism and uncompliance. Then you've got, like, the polar opposite of that. You've got Dennis Porter. And you can't see the waves and the tides of,

46:17Rod Palmer of compliance and the benefits of compliance coming crashing at you. You're crazy. So I really was expecting Dennis to run away with this one. But Eric, it was one of the biggest upsets perhaps in March Madness history.

46:35Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, I I thought I had set up Dennis for a very favorable route to the, championship, in a very fair way, of course, because I would never favor anybody. But, I thought that he had a path to win

46:56Richard Greaser in getting knocked out in the first round to Eric Kayson, a a non compliant individual,

47:05Rod Palmer was really concerning to me. And, like, if there's one thing that I learned about working in media is you really gotta blame voters for being bad

47:16Richard Greaser people, you know, for for making decisions like this. And I it's

47:21Rod Palmer when when sellers make their minds out, it has not to do with the quality of the candidates, their policies, anything like that. It is it boils down to whether they are the voters stupid or not? And I think that this particular example, I don't wanna find them stupid, right? I just I question I question their their incentives. I question their values. Why they why they wanted Dennis out of this out of this tournament? Maybe Dennis is kinda like the Duke of college basketball or something. It's people just they wanna root for the underdog whenever Duke is playing, but I don't know. I question question the voters' choices there. Yeah.

48:03Richard Greaser I mean, the the problem is just there's been this general ethos around Bitcoin,

48:08Rod Palmer around non compliance.

48:12Richard Greaser And there hasn't been good media coverage with, like, accurate information from, like, the expert sources of people that have actually been trained in journalism.

48:25Rod Palmer Yeah. There's there's a breakdown in journalism as well. I think that any of that, that's why I wanted to join the bugle. I know that's why he started the bugle. So sometimes people talk about why is the Bitcoin price not higher than it is considering all this money coming in from the ETFs, but

48:44Rod Palmer the reason is that it's still too early. I mean, there's there's still all this unlock that's coming, and I think with the people, it's the same. What we've started, we've made some progress, and we are building a following. But it's it's gonna take time

49:02Rod Palmer for us to, like, reprogram the retarded brains of the Bitcoin community and just the the broader, you know, society in general. And it's it's not gonna happen overnight. Yeah.

49:18Rod Palmer I mean, there's, like, there's a lot of white supremacy going on. There's a lot of money laundering

49:26Richard Greaser going on. There's a lot of there's a lot of stuff that just makes us look really bad, guys. And you need to knock it off and and comply so that we can go before Elizabeth Warren and say we're compliant.

49:39Rod Palmer Look at us. You have nothing. It only takes one sat one, you know, blacklisted

49:50Rod Palmer endured. Some benefit that comes from money laundering or from us. For example, it only takes one of those sats to to fucking roll up all UTX out. Don't be that one run sat that ruins everything for the compliant Bitcoin community. We are on brink

50:11Rod Palmer of really revolutionizing politics, economics, the money system in general. If we we don't,

50:20Rod Palmer it doesn't this isn't a private thing, like, we just have to comply for, you know, maybe ten, twenty more years. And if we just comply as far as we can, that ten or twenty years, we'll we'll be the ones who decide what compliance is. And we can take all the lessons we learned,

50:40Rod Palmer twenty years of compliance, and we can use that to inform how we enforce the world to comply to us once we have power. That's what this is about. It's about power. Right? We want power. We want power, we want control, we want to dominate the shitcoiners and nocoiners.

51:03Rod Palmer We don't want to replace the state, or excuse me, that's exactly what we want to do. We don't want to destroy the state, We want to replace the state.

51:14Richard Greaser We wanna be the ones printing the money.

51:17Rod Palmer We wanna be the state. That's I mean, that's what that's what this is all for. Why else would we save all this Bitcoin and deny ourselves the pleasures of the present, if not for the the hope

51:33Rod Palmer to become the domineering state forces when we get older and will we have all the wealth. 100%.

51:46Richard Greaser Do you want to wrap up with talking about protest groups?

51:51Rod Palmer Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about those. Did we cover this last on the last episode? Ready? Coverage of what's what's allowed with Just Stop Mortals?

52:01Richard Greaser I don't know how much we talked about it, but it would be good to recap it.

52:07Rod Palmer Yeah. So just stayed in the house a few weeks ago that they wanna be at the conference in Nashville. They will be protesting. I have I have a feeling that the the animosity between just that mortals and the monetary maximalist fix fix the filters group is only going to grow. That line is probably going to boil over by the time we get to summer. But they're gonna be they're gonna be protesting. They they plan to disrupt some speakers. They plan to disrupt some activities

52:40Rod Palmer at the conference. I don't know what David Bailey and the the Bitcoin Magazine Group are planning to do in terms of budgets or security to stop them. But I would say this, I mean, every time you go to the conference, there's there's the exhibit that's it's full of art. And usually, it's it's a floor. I mean, I have a feeling this time there's gonna be a lot of digital. There's gonna be a lot of NFTs. There's gonna be a lot of oracles on display, and I think that they're gonna they're they're trying they plan to target some of these, these pieces of art. I think they're gonna glue themselves

53:13Rod Palmer to exhibits. They're they're gonna throw some orange paint, and they're they're gonna they're gonna cause a ruckus. I don't know what the monetary mass must be gonna do, but they because they they mostly just whine to complain and kinda cried online about things. They haven't really stopped

53:33Rod Palmer any oracles from making it into the blockchain. They haven't really filtered any transactions out of the mempool. So I'll be interested to see what they're gonna do, you know, at the Bitcoin conference. It it might end up being like one of those A and T for Proud Boys showdowns.

53:51Rod Palmer I don't know. I don't I don't wanna see violence at at the at the Bitcoin conference. I I don't have any reason to believe there will be, but it is it is a risk. These guys, they're very passionate. They test in my heads. There could be some really mean tweets between these groups.

54:14Richard Greaser Yeah, if I were Bitcoin Magazine, I'd be concerned about physical altercations happening between people in wizard's costumes and individuals throwing orange paint on video screens with ordinals on them?

54:31Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, I guess

54:33Rod Palmer my biggest concern, and I don't understand Bitcoin or my technical inspect well enough to know if this even makes sense. But something I am really concerned about and I've been telling some other Bitcoiners about this is what if they what if they happen to throw some hay oil? It it makes it inside the block, and it it comes up

54:54Rod Palmer it comes up to block the paint. Like, is that gonna fight? Is that gonna break the blockchain? Is that gonna break my node? Like, those it is gonna prevent something like that.

55:03Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, there's gonna be a lot of companies at the conference demonstrating their node technology that it's probably really important to isolate those nodes from people with orange paint because that that'd probably be the attack vector, is to, like, go throw orange paint on the Ronin Dojo

55:26Richard Greaser booth.

55:28Rod Palmer As an athlete, that may be big, but, a way to, to mix your paint to get the right color. Maybe you can't find, like, that color of orange that, you know, Sherman Williams that matches the Bitcoin, logo's color. Like a Ronin Dojo node and it runs it through a mixer with another

55:51Rod Palmer older paint, you might actually be able to get out of it, the color that you're looking for. It's worth it's worth trying.

55:60Richard Greaser Do you do you think Runnin' Dojo or Samurai offers that as a service?

56:05Rod Palmer They might already have that. I think that they do a good enough job, convincing people to pay them for their services, their Whirlpool stat. That, you know, otherwise, you don't really need to use that, but people seem to do it, so they're making pretty good money on that. But if they're looking for a new revenue stream,

56:25Rod Palmer that's a possibility. Yeah. That that's definitely a good one for them. They should have some sort of exhibit, like, that you could, like, do a physical mixing of of, I don't know, something that represents UTXOs or Bitcoin.

56:45Rod Palmer That'd be kinda cool. No pain there too. Demonstrate it all.

56:52Richard Greaser I don't I don't think either group is really known for their physical prowess, the Taproot Wizards or the, the Just Stop Ordinals people.

57:02Rod Palmer That would be that would be pretty cool, you know, how you have, like, if they were you punched the punching bag, it tells you, like, how how much battle you go behind it. It'd be interesting to have the ordinals the Just Stop ordinals group and the Taproot Wizards and those guys, and and put up, like, like, the the thinnest through my wall. And see if any of those guys could punch a hole through it. And I bet you they put it. Maybe Peter and Tom will blow down the or, bet on that.

57:33Richard Greaser Breaking news. Peter McCormick has just woken up and noticed the pull.

57:41Rod Palmer Oh, shit.

57:43Richard Greaser He says that, he's calling in his Russian bot farm.

57:49Rod Palmer Oh, wow. I'm a little bit surprised to see Stetha Milvera with the 52.6 to 47.4 lead on Peter with, 1,169

58:01Rod Palmer votes tallied so far.

58:05Richard Greaser I think, we probably have to call it, if Peter wins, we'd have to call it a red coat wave. But I think there's a pretty good potential that we're gonna wake up tomorrow morning and be shocked, just like the Becca pool.

58:21Rod Palmer I can't say I'm surprised that, a mainland Englishman is going after one of the, one of the guys in the colonies, you know?

58:32Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, you just wanna it's the thing about the British. They just like to beat up the small guys, you know? And the small guys like, hopefully, Stefan can hire his own Russian bots to kinda balance the, safe and fair election happening here, and, counter Peter and show him he's not gonna get bullied like this.

58:53Rod Palmer Actually, you know what, Stefan? As far as I know, you're living in, Dubai now. I got friends from, my Penn's Life. They work for Blackwater. They're out of work now. So if you wanna hire some, some some some muscle, some enforcement to keep Peter from bullying you, hit me up in the DMs.

59:16Richard Greaser Yeah. You could do that. You should probably, like, offer those guys, information over to David Bailey so he could hire some security for the conference. I I think he That's a good idea. I think he has it under control. I'm pretty confident

59:33Richard Greaser that he's taken security pretty seriously. He knows the community's riled up. There's different protest groups. And I think what he's gonna do is he's gonna give people, like, protest time to make their points. And I think that'll

59:49Rod Palmer as long as he can keep them separate. I think he's he he can find a way to make to get the protesters to protest in a compliant way, that's a success. That's a win for everybody. Yeah. That's the best protest or compliant protest. And so that's what we want at the Bitcoin conference. Like, we want your free speech. You deserve that free speech

1:00:13Rod Palmer based on these conditions. And if you comply with those conditions, that's that's the most effective way to add make your make sure your protest message is heard. Yeah. I mean, the first thing you should do is you should go to the city of Nashville and get a permit. That's step one. The statist Bitcoiners,

1:00:36Richard Greaser they already have a pride rally that they're gonna be doing outside the conference. And they have their permit.

1:00:41Rod Palmer They have their permit day one. I think David Bailey, if he's listening to this, your mission is to convince the city of Nashville to let protesters

1:00:55Rod Palmer pay for a permit with custodial lighting. If you can do that, I think problems are solved. Alright. Because they might know. Once once these once these protesters find out that they have to get a permit to protest, some of them might be a little bit annoyed. You tell them they can buy that government permit with Bitcoin. You've changed the entire perception.

1:01:20Richard Greaser There's one way that they're gonna be able to accomplish that, and for whatever reason, I don't think they're willing to do it. And that would be to give Dennis a speaking slot, because he could definitely convince the city of Nashville to accept custodial lightning for, protest permits.

1:01:38Rod Palmer That might be his contingency plan. He knows and he keeps had his back pocket. He wants to he wants to make Dennis Porter like the final speaker, you know, on the last day of the conference. The, you know, or maybe the keynote speaker of the conference. He did that's a lot of political clout. I mean, that, you know, that comes with Dennis. I

1:02:05Rod Palmer I don't think that VoIP is lost on David.

1:02:11Richard Greaser I I noticed this when I was looking at their website. Let me pull it up. Why isn't it working? I might have to get my wife in here to help me use the Internet. Okay. I found it. So I was looking at their their speakers, and I was noticing they don't have very many interesting people speaking yet. Oh, it's not even loading. It looks like they don't have any speak oh, wait. Now it's loading.

1:02:49Rod Palmer Man,

1:02:50Richard Greaser I really need help with the Internet. Okay. So they they have they have Michael Sailor on there. But, like, other than that, they don't have very many of, like, the big pod confers listed here. They have some, but just not a ton. And my thinking is is the way all these conferences

1:03:09Rod Palmer do sales is the closer to the conference it gets, the higher the ticket price is. And so David so David Bailey knows he knows that as we get closer to the conference date, the price of Bitcoin is probably gonna go up

1:03:27Rod Palmer as well as the ticket prices.

1:03:32Richard Greaser And so he gets more of both,

1:03:37Rod Palmer which Wow. Well, actually, no. My math is wrong. I'm retarded.

1:03:44Richard Greaser Well, yeah. I mean, he he wants more dollars. So he's gonna get more dollars. People are gonna feel rich. They wanna get wanna go to the conference. And the second that, like, Dennis Porter gets announced, so many people are gonna buy tickets. They're probably gonna wait till last minute to do it.

1:04:01Rod Palmer That is a brilliant strategy. Yeah. I mean, if if he if he makes that announcement, a week before, at Harvard State, I mean, that's

1:04:12Rod Palmer Dennis Porter's probably worth a minimum 5 to 10,000, take it so Yeah. Think about think about the school teachers,

1:04:28Rod Palmer they're they're very widely represented in the state of Bitcoin or, coalition. They they all have to work during the summer. They can all show up. I mean, think about all of the do it in the summer instead of the spring was a big move.

1:04:46Rod Palmer Yeah. I think having a teachers union sponsor the conference would be a really good idea. Huge, huge idea. I think that's that's a really good way to set the tone of compliance. Have a union.

1:05:02Richard Greaser When public education and Bitcoin come together, I'm sure something magical is gonna result from that, and it'll be beautiful.

1:05:12Rod Palmer I might I might send my kids to a public school again. If they get paid for their 2% milk and their, you know, their disgusting seed oil covered pizza

1:05:29Rod Palmer with with custodial lightning in the cafeteria. Taking them, pulling them out of the academy, sending them to public school. That's a brilliant idea.

1:05:42Richard Greaser I'd probably pull my kid out of home school and dunk him right into like, the the local school here in New York that he'd go to, it has metal detectors

1:05:52Rod Palmer in, in his grade school.

1:05:56Richard Greaser But I think, like, you know, the potential for violence would be completely ruled out. Like, you never really get beat up as a kid. It's like it's a it's a rite of passage. You you want you wanna go to these schools,

1:06:12Rod Palmer where Oh, the police the police cannot beat you up and and pick you upside down by your ankles and shake shake you until your lunch money falls out of your pockets if your lunch money is secured on the blockchain. So, you know, people like Max Weiser, they say, which is, you know, I think a 100% true, that a Bitcoin standard would eliminate all war.

1:06:36Rod Palmer Well, a Bitcoin standard in a school eliminates school shootings, it eliminates bullying because there's no incentive to do any of those things now because you can't steal somebody's lunch money. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is this is what happened else in El Salvador or two. I think it just got a lot safer. The second they the second they adopted the Bitcoin standard, things

1:07:03Rod Palmer disappeared. And they did the government and didn't have to do anything. It just happened. It's beautiful. That's why I love Bitcoin. That's why I'm doing this.

1:07:18Richard Greaser You know, there's a lot of people that were really upset that they didn't get added to this, March Madness thing.

1:07:26Rod Palmer Well, if you if you listen to this podcast and you donate to Wi Fi and Fountain, can you have a better chance of making Maxi Madness next year?

1:07:40Richard Greaser That's a good point. Yeah, I mean, the more the more you engage with us, the more likely you're, to get on these, these brackets. And, I I would just you know, I would take it very personally if you didn't get on this bracket. Like, that's generally, like, the the best thing to do with awards that you don't win is to take it very personally.

1:08:05Rod Palmer And, Complain about your match. I thought you were gonna put up against

1:08:09Richard Greaser You should probably tweet about it too.

1:08:11Rod Palmer You need to you need to go and tweet, wow, the bugle didn't put me on here. They're a bunch of losers. It's you know, I mean, there's there's nothing to determine, in my opinion, than

1:08:28Rod Palmer being really, really solidly about influencers. Right? And then being upset that you were not included with the list of other influencers.

1:08:43Rod Palmer You know, Corey so, Pleditor tweeted something,

1:08:49Richard Greaser talking about how stupid influencer brackets are.

1:08:55Rod Palmer Which is fine. You know? He's taking it personally. That's okay. That's what you should be doing. You should be taking it personally.

1:09:03Richard Greaser Right. But, Dylan Leclerc responded and said well, Dylan feels good about it because he was on the bracket. He made it to round two. He said, my dude, try lighting up and enjoying yourself once in a while. The cringe will continue with or without us. Always hope you have a good day.

1:09:24Rod Palmer You know? It's nice to have a positive perspective once in a while on Twitter. Right. And then this is Cory. He's not too. Yeah. They suck. I just got smoked by a little hard. Well, you know, some people, they really liked it until they lost. Some people are short losers. What can I say?

1:09:49Richard Greaser Bitcoin trading cards responded. I don't I don't even wanna read it, but I just thought that was interesting. They responded twice, actually. Mad Maddox doesn't seem like he likes it very much.

1:10:04Rod Palmer You're retiring. Yeah. You know, a lot of people

1:10:13Richard Greaser what do you think, Rod? Is using

1:10:17Rod Palmer is using Twitter worth the trade offs

1:10:21Richard Greaser of all the privacy losses and supporting this platform that is controlled by the feds?

1:10:28Rod Palmer That's a good question. I think that's the individual decision you have to make. But I would put this out there. I would say, if you're not on Twitter, you are going to miss out or at least you're gonna be behind on the latest and greatest

1:10:47Rod Palmer ways to be compliant. So it's the trade off is between, do you wanna win? Do you want to apply and win? Or do you wanna maintain your privacy and your sovereignty and your sanity, really, because everybody's so crazy online. You say you have to make you have to weigh that decision for yourself. And for me personally, I value compliance over privacy. So, but you just it's it's a spectrum.

1:11:13Rod Palmer Every every Bitcoiner is on a spectrum, it's on the spectrum. You just have to decide which part of that spectrum you're on.

1:11:23Richard Greaser Definitely. I think that's probably a good, note to wrap up on. Do you have any final thoughts?

1:11:31Rod Palmer No, I think that was a pretty good week too. I think that, stay tuned, some big things happening next week starting on Monday. But, you'll see for yourself what that is.

1:11:46Rod Palmer But to doubt if you haven't voted in the Maxi Madness poll, by the time this comes out, I think we'll still have a few rounds left so you can make your voice heard. I know our listeners care about democracy, and they wanna be a part of the democratic process. So you will have that opportunity, at least two more rounds, I think, starting next week

1:12:07Rod Palmer when that madness gets gets kicked off again.

1:12:13Richard Greaser Yeah. It's gonna be great. I'm I'm really looking forward to it. I'm interested to see who the winner's gonna be. I thought it was gonna be Dennis, and, disappointed it's not.

1:12:23Rod Palmer Alright. That's that's a good point. So if you if you have an idea on who's gonna win, send us on found 2169, 2169 saps,

1:12:37Rod Palmer and then underneath tells who you think is gonna win the, the the madness bracket. And if you why, I don't know what your prize is gonna be yet. You'll get a prize of some sort, even if it's just a shout out here on this podcast, but we'll try to give you something better than that.

1:12:58Rod Palmer $21.69, who you think is gonna win. Transparency, we're gonna blow that money on bullshit like I don't think that's bullshit, but that the more listeners think that that's beyond and and unhealthy.

1:13:14Rod Palmer That, you know, there's that assess just now it's not going towards anything productive. Yeah. Yeah, it sounds like a great way to do it. Throw it away. If you've done it to us or thrown that money away, just remember that, but send it to us anyway.

1:13:35Richard Greaser Yeah, let us know what you thought of this podcast, and we'll, looking forward to talking next week when the tournament is over and, the dust is cleared.

1:13:48Rod Palmer And in the future, there might be a few more episodes and we'll start. So we're getting people from the community, Big Boy, Twitter from the industry. We'll get them on here and we'll, we'll find out how fly if they really are. How fly if they're willing to be.

1:14:05Kailey Welch Thanks for listening to the Bugle Weekly podcast. On this week's episode, Rod and Dick talked about how influencer popularity contests and compliance with government laws are how we get to mass adoption of Bitcoin. We want a custodial lightning wallet installed by default on every cell phone paired with their digital ID. The future is bright, but only if we can get permission for it. Let's make Orwell Books a reality. Make sure to tune in next week's episode to get the most important updates on Bitcoin, Bitcoiners, and the future of compliance with the state.