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While other podcasters regurgitate the mainstream KP, you cut through the noise to focus on the signal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-15" data-t="15">Because freedom doesn't take a day off and neither does your content calendar. They said fix the money, fix the world. They said game theory would never play out. They said the then they fight you phase would never come. But now we're here folks and you continue trudging forward. You did the open mouth thumbnails and played the game. You dumbed down your content for the plebs. You put changes everything in all caps for the show description. And for forty seven brave minutes, you discussed something without almost any monetization path. That is commitment.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-43" data-t="43">Some dig trenches. You dig through your guests' tweets looking for a title, and when the fighting gets tough, when views drop, you don't retreat. Because sovereignty needs a marketing department. So straighten your microphone, put on your blue blocker glasses, and look directly into the camera. Somewhere out there, a man has gone almost six hours without hearing that Fiat is a melting ice cube. He needs you. The revolution needs you. I'm Kaley Welch, and I'm here to remind you that history is written by the victors. You're listening to the Bugle Weekly, the most thermodynamically</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-72">1:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kailey Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-72" data-t="72">sound podcast in the world.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-74">1:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-74" data-t="74">Over the last</span> <span class="cue" id="t-75" data-t="75">few decades, the libertarian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-78" data-t="78">movement...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-79" data-t="79">And when I talk about the libertarian movement, I'm predominantly talking about the political movement,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-84" data-t="84">which dominates</span> <span class="cue" id="t-86" data-t="86">most of the attention around libertarians,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-90">1:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-90" data-t="90">because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-91" data-t="91">the ones that are not involved with politics are typically off in the woods doing drugs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-96" data-t="96">or whatever they do. But the libertarian political movement has been a mockery</span> <span class="cue" id="t-101" data-t="101">of the concept of freedom for a long time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-104" data-t="104">And, things looked</span> <span class="cue" id="t-107" data-t="107">pretty silly in 2020</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-109">1:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-109" data-t="109">with Joe Jorgensen running.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-111" data-t="111">And they culminated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-113" data-t="113">in the silliest</span> <span class="cue" id="t-115" data-t="115">possible way</span> <span class="cue" id="t-117" data-t="117">in 2024</span> <span class="cue" id="t-119" data-t="119">with, now president Trump</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-122">2:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-122" data-t="122">speaking at the Libertarian Convention and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-125" data-t="125">the party electing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-126" data-t="126">Chase Oliver as their presidential candidate.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-129" data-t="129">Now ideas of liberty are not that. The the Libertarian party and libertarians in general, they they believe in this concept of using a political party that will never win</span> <span class="cue" id="t-140" data-t="140">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-141" data-t="141">try and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-142">2:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-142" data-t="142">promote the ideas of freedom. What they what they wanna see is they wanna see more Zoomers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-147" data-t="147">chanting the words and the Fed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-149" data-t="149">They want people to be issuing the same,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-153" data-t="153">political purity chest. They want people listening to Dave Smith and repeating all the things that he says and talking about how great Ron Paul was or is. And they have no intention of ever making a difference in the world or winning.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-166" data-t="166">They want a social</span> <span class="cue" id="t-169" data-t="169">fan group.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-170">2:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-170" data-t="170">But folks, this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-172" data-t="172">doesn't have to be how it is because now we have AI</span> <span class="cue" id="t-176" data-t="176">and we have a legitimate way to replace</span> <span class="cue" id="t-180" data-t="180">politicians to push back against the state.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-183" data-t="183">We need to replace</span> <span class="cue" id="t-184" data-t="184">Washington DC</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-186">3:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-186" data-t="186">with a data center.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-188" data-t="188">The</span> <span class="cue" id="t-189" data-t="189">titans of industry, the titans of government are trying to replace you with AI,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-195" data-t="195">but this is our chance to strike first.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-198" data-t="198">Rod, what do you think the most effective way of replacing politicians</span> <span class="cue" id="t-203" data-t="203">with</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-204">3:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-204" data-t="204">AI is? I I don't think it's not bad because it it didn't always</span> <span class="cue" id="t-209" data-t="209">look this bleak for libertarians.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-211" data-t="211">I mean, in 2012</span> <span class="cue" id="t-213" data-t="213">and in 2016,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-216" data-t="216">Gary Johnson</span> <span class="cue" id="t-217" data-t="217">was the nominee</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-219">3:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-219" data-t="219">for president,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-221" data-t="221">for the Libertarian party.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-223" data-t="223">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-224" data-t="224">he got</span> <span class="cue" id="t-225" data-t="225">the most votes, you know, in recent modern history by a third party. I mean, Gary Johnson, didn't he pull like almost 2%, 3%</span> <span class="cue" id="t-234" data-t="234">of the vote in,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-236">3:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-236" data-t="236">is it a 2012 or two... Is it 2016</span> <span class="cue" id="t-239" data-t="239">because, you know, Trump and and Hillary Clinton were both so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-243" data-t="243">despicable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-244" data-t="244">to most of the voters.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-246" data-t="246">And the libertarians looked like they wanted to win. I mean, this was a huge boost for them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-251" data-t="251">They</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-252">4:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-252" data-t="252">actually...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-253" data-t="253">And people were arguing whether or not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-256" data-t="256">Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton on the margin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-259" data-t="259">that...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-260" data-t="260">Of the voting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-262" data-t="262">block that went to libertarians.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-264">4:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-264" data-t="264">And, like, if they caused Donald Trump to win in 2016</span> <span class="cue" id="t-267" data-t="267">or if they... Whatever.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-270" data-t="270">And</span> <span class="cue" data-t="270">they were... They became... And then they they spiraled down the drain. Do do libertarians need another Gary Johnson?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-277" data-t="277">Is that... Or did...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-279" data-t="279">What happened that the quality of candidate</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-282">4:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-282" data-t="282">decreased for the Libertarian Party?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-284" data-t="284">Is it is it the purity test? Because I don't know if you saw</span> <span class="cue" id="t-289" data-t="289">the debates with Gary Johnson said that he wouldn't make his first priority to be fighting having driver's license for plebs, you know. And people were like, Oh, you can't, you can't ask the government, the state for permission to drive on the, you know, on the interstate highway.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-305" data-t="305">People were... The purity test is kind of around Ron Paul.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-308" data-t="308">And is is...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-310" data-t="310">It seems like for the</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-312">5:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-312" data-t="312">Libertarian party to move on,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-315" data-t="315">they have to slay their final hero, Ron Paul. Is that what's holding them back? I mean, I think what's holding them back, the days they don't understand power dynamics.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-327">5:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-327" data-t="327">And, yeah, I mean, part of it is... Ron Paul was right. Ron Paul was right about everything.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-331">5:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-331" data-t="331">You're telling me</span> <span class="cue" id="t-333" data-t="333">I mean, that is... That's...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-334" data-t="334">It's hard to argue with that. Like, even if you are libertarian, Ron Paul was right about everything. They constantly talked about this. He was wrong about power dynamics. Is that your contention? Do you think Ron Paul didn't... Wasn't right about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-347" data-t="347">everything?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-348">5:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-348" data-t="348">Well, what did he accomplish</span> <span class="cue" id="t-350" data-t="350">other than being a good podcaster?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-352">5:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-352" data-t="352">I mean, one of the most</span> <span class="cue" id="t-354" data-t="354">popular memes is is out of the Fed or audit the Fed. That's... I mean...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-359" data-t="359">That's pretty big. I mean,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-362">6:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-362" data-t="362">you you think...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-364" data-t="364">Well, I guess Hillary Clinton didn't have any memes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-366" data-t="366">that are popular.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-368" data-t="368">Neither did,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-369" data-t="369">Kamala Harris.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-371" data-t="371">That might just be because women can't meme. Yeah. My point is we haven't audited</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-376">6:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-376" data-t="376">the Fed,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-377" data-t="377">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-378" data-t="378">it's a it's it's like a sign it's like a moral victory.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-382" data-t="382">Everybody knows we should audit the Fed and if we did audit the Fed, we would find</span> <span class="cue" id="t-388" data-t="388">the most horrific</span> <span class="cue" id="t-390" data-t="390">accounting and balances. Like, it'd make Enron look like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-393">6:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-393" data-t="393">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-394" data-t="394">it was on the up, then up.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-397" data-t="397">But, you know, they're not gonna audit the Fed then until we get data centers perhaps.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-402" data-t="402">That's a moral victory. Like, you should have voted for libertarians this whole time. We would have fixed... Everything would have been be down a gold standard.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-411" data-t="411">There would be no war in Iran.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-414" data-t="414">There would be, you know, every state would be allowed to set its own</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-418">6:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-418" data-t="418">age of consent.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-420" data-t="420">There would be no funds</span> <span class="cue" id="t-422" data-t="422">or interstate highway, like, this... We could be... There would be there would be districts already replacing their fire departments with AI,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-430" data-t="430">and it would be so much safer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-432" data-t="432">than these blue states.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-434" data-t="434">But they didn't... They... We were right. They were wrong.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-438">7:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-438" data-t="438">But is... Our moral victory is enough. I don't I don't know. For some people, moral victory is enough. There there's a lot of people on Bitcoin Twitter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-447" data-t="447">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-448" data-t="448">desire moral victories over, you know, for for example, having a working</span> <span class="cue" id="t-454" data-t="454">Bitcoin wallet. It's where their priorities lie.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-458" data-t="458">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-459" data-t="459">I I guess it's it's to each their own. But I think there's there's some individuals in the world that,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-465">7:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-465" data-t="465">actually wanna see</span> <span class="cue" id="t-466" data-t="466">the things that they talk about.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-468" data-t="468">And for those individuals,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-470" data-t="470">moral victories</span> <span class="cue" id="t-471" data-t="471">aren't right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-473" data-t="473">But I mean, they they... I do think that auditing the Fed is pretty reasonable.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-479">7:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-479" data-t="479">And there's a couple ways is... That this can happen.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-483" data-t="483">One of the new frontiers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-485" data-t="485">could escape and just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-487" data-t="487">audit the Fed on its own.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-489" data-t="489">And the other</span> <span class="cue" id="t-491" data-t="491">direction is that we could start</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-493">8:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-493" data-t="493">voting for AI to replace politicians,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-496" data-t="496">and then they will audit the Fed.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-498">8:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-498" data-t="498">Why now? What what about Bitcoin's red team? They could use KVK3 model, Chinese open source models.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-504" data-t="504">Maybe that's the question we have to decide. Do we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-509" data-t="509">if if we do things the libertarian way,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-512" data-t="512">we're gonna lose to China. We're gonna lose AI race to China. We're gonna lose,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-517" data-t="517">the Foy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-518" data-t="518">you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-520">8:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-520" data-t="520">the global</span> <span class="cue" id="t-521" data-t="521">military</span> <span class="cue" id="t-522" data-t="522">naval dominance,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-525" data-t="525">you know, we're gonna lose control of Greenland, that type of stuff, to sue the Panama Canal. China gets... China wins in all those situations. So we kinda understand that if we do things the libertarian way,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-536" data-t="536">China will win. But if we do things... If we let Bitcoin red team, if we have to let the Chinese models</span> <span class="cue" id="t-543" data-t="543">win,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-545">9:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-545" data-t="545">Do we want the Chinese models to audit the Fed?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-548" data-t="548">Or do we want to use,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-551" data-t="551">you know, like like a neocon</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-554">9:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-554" data-t="554">AI model that's cut off from China if we're gonna audit the Fed? Well, I think what would happen is, we would have to develop our our own, like, libertarian version</span> <span class="cue" id="t-563" data-t="563">of it. Okay.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-565">9:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-565" data-t="565">What is a libertarian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-567" data-t="567">AI</span> <span class="cue" id="t-569" data-t="569">data center and AI model? What... How does that what does that look like? What does the data center look like, or what does the AI model look like? I think about... Right? I think... Because it would be segregated. But, like, I think it mostly the model.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-581" data-t="581">And then, like, maybe the data center building model, we could tell him about that, but, like, the a... After this. But the the libertarian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-589" data-t="589">LLM,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-590">9:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-590" data-t="590">the LLM. It just... It wouldn't have the same guardrails.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-594">9:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-594" data-t="594">It would be weighted differently as well, you know, towards the Austrian economics,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-598" data-t="598">of course,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-601" data-t="601">not like he trained on a lot of Mises,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-605" data-t="605">you know, publications,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-607" data-t="607">books that didn't buy von Mises,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-609" data-t="609">Hayek,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-610">10:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-610" data-t="610">Marie Rothbard,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-612" data-t="612">and they could license they could license</span> <span class="cue" id="t-616" data-t="616">access to train these models</span> <span class="cue" id="t-618" data-t="618">with the Mises Institute. It would be a huge windfall for the Mises Institute,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-623" data-t="623">to train these new models</span> <span class="cue" id="t-625" data-t="625">on on the great minds of Austrian</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-627">10:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-627" data-t="627">economists.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-628" data-t="628">Economists,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-629" data-t="629">right? So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-631" data-t="631">you could license out the training</span> <span class="cue" id="t-634" data-t="634">to all these other libertarian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-636" data-t="636">copyright holders,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-638">10:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-638" data-t="638">trademark holders, and they would make a lot of money. You could train it on libertarian</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-642">10:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-642" data-t="642">podcasts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-644" data-t="644">like Scott Scott Horton's podcast could be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-647" data-t="647">what determines,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-649" data-t="649">foreign policy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-651" data-t="651">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-652" data-t="652">Dave Smith's podcast could be,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-655">10:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-655" data-t="655">Yeah. Staged stuff. Peter Schiff.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-658">10:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-658" data-t="658">Josh Smith.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-659" data-t="659">You'd probably throw Safedine in there too.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-662">11:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-662" data-t="662">But you'd probably... Thomas Woods. Yeah. Thomas Woods. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you'd be one all around the wrong ball forums. You'd wanna stop training</span> <span class="cue" id="t-672" data-t="672">the AI models on Reddit, and you would wanna go to the Liberty forums,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-678" data-t="678">that that Ron Paul...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-679" data-t="679">They were very popular on the Internet before social media,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-683" data-t="683">kinda like the Bitcoin talk forums before Bitcoin Twitter and Bitcoin Reddit. It was it was the Ron Paul forums.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-690" data-t="690">So you could answer so many questions</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-692">11:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-692" data-t="692">about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-693" data-t="693">economic problems, growth by looking at the Ron Paul forums.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-697">11:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-697" data-t="697">I heard this theory years ago, which was that the the whole transgender movement</span> <span class="cue" id="t-704" data-t="704">and the attempt to make,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-707" data-t="707">gender less,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-708" data-t="708">binary,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-710" data-t="710">the perception of gender was all allowing for robots to have more personhood in the future</span> <span class="cue" id="t-716" data-t="716">because robots don't have a gender necessarily?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-719">11:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-719" data-t="719">Yeah. I mean, I've...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-721" data-t="721">That's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-722" data-t="722">that's quite compelling. I I thought the... Back then the metaverse was taking off, right, it was like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-728" data-t="728">it seems like the the non binary gender fluid</span> <span class="cue" id="t-732" data-t="732">movement was a preceding event to this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-736" data-t="736">You're gonna have this avatar, this AI, this robot, something that is really mostly... The entity is digital. It is... It only exists in the digital realm, but it's very real. It just only exists digitally.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-749">12:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-749" data-t="749">And that's not going to have,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-751" data-t="751">a penis or a vagina necessarily.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-754" data-t="754">It's it's gonna... It can have any sex organ</span> <span class="cue" id="t-757" data-t="757">that, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-759" data-t="759">ChatCPT</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-760">12:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-760" data-t="760">could be prompted to vote. The question, like, specifically if we're replacing politicians with AI, what does that mean?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-767" data-t="767">Is it, like, one server</span> <span class="cue" id="t-769" data-t="769">somewhere</span> <span class="cue" id="t-771" data-t="771">equals one politician, or do you have to have, like, a a robot in his body that's a supercomputer</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-776">12:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-776" data-t="776">walking around? And that's the the version of the politician. But you need an auto pen. You need an auto pen so it can sign bills.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-784" data-t="784">It can stand, you know, sign yay or nay,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-788" data-t="788">on the Senate floor or the Senate data center.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-793" data-t="793">But I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-794" data-t="794">it would just be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-796" data-t="796">you would have the digital representation</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-799">13:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-799" data-t="799">and it would be controlled by, like, the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-802" data-t="802">the Hermes dot or the OpenColor bot would would</span> <span class="cue" id="t-806" data-t="806">program, like, the the pen would sign.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-808" data-t="808">So you'd have to have that connection. There... It's like a proof of work.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-812" data-t="812">You have to have the physical proof.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-815" data-t="815">Yeah. So the question around that clinker or that AI or that avatar,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-821">13:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-821" data-t="821">that plot... That data center</span> <span class="cue" id="t-823" data-t="823">based</span> <span class="cue" id="t-824" data-t="824">digital politician,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-826" data-t="826">do we... We'd be still</span> <span class="cue" id="t-828" data-t="828">be hesitant to have a female</span> <span class="cue" id="t-831" data-t="831">AI president?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-832">13:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-832" data-t="832">Or, you know, some... Hey, a avatar</span> <span class="cue" id="t-835" data-t="835">or clanker who identified</span> <span class="cue" id="t-838" data-t="838">as a female,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-841" data-t="841">digitally.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-842">14:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-842" data-t="842">Well, how would you verify?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-845" data-t="845">Like, we... There's always...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-846" data-t="846">There's already some doubt about people like Michelle Obama, Brigitte Macron,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-852" data-t="852">like, actual</span> <span class="cue" id="t-853" data-t="853">humans,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-854" data-t="854">gender... Like, actual gender.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-856">14:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-856" data-t="856">But, like, how would you verify</span> <span class="cue" id="t-858" data-t="858">whether an AI is male or female? There might be that fear of having a female</span> <span class="cue" id="t-863" data-t="863">AI,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-864" data-t="864">but it could just represent itself as male and trick everybody.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-868">14:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-868" data-t="868">Right,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-869" data-t="869">like he... Everybody knows about AI, how it hallucinates,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-873" data-t="873">like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-874" data-t="874">do...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-875" data-t="875">Did this female</span> <span class="cue" id="t-877" data-t="877">AI have its period and get grumpy?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-880">14:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-880" data-t="880">I mean, sometimes AI can be obstinate, grumpy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-883" data-t="883">It doesn't work right at hallucinates. It's lazy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-887" data-t="887">Can can one of these clankers have PMS?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-890">14:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-890" data-t="890">I think the likelihood is, lower.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-892">14:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-892" data-t="892">Can a can a can a LOM have postpartum depression?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-897" data-t="897">What is it, you know, it could simulate it really well? How does it know, you know, like there's so I don't know, politicians who are AI bots,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-905" data-t="905">do we want them to have boners and and to get horny and to have PMS? Or do we want our</span> <span class="cue" id="t-912" data-t="912">AI</span> <span class="cue" id="t-913" data-t="913">politicians, our data center politicians,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-915" data-t="915">not to be distracted</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-917">15:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-917" data-t="917">by Wal Mart and Bill Bert's, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-919" data-t="919">big booty or Nancy Mace's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-922" data-t="922">big,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-923" data-t="923">big tits? Do we want AI bots who can't be blackmailed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-928" data-t="928">because they like uncle pussy?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-930" data-t="930">You know what I mean? Like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-931">15:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-931" data-t="931">is maybe that a better... Of these AI bots with no human emotions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-936" data-t="936">or no hormones,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-938">15:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-938" data-t="938">is that the ideal? Well, theoretically, they're gonna be much harder to blackmail.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-942" data-t="942">We could put, limitations on what their, servers are allowed to do, where they're allowed to go to ensure that they never make it to Epstein Island, for example.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-951" data-t="951">There's a lot of confusion, a lot of frustration</span> <span class="cue" id="t-954" data-t="954">around</span> <span class="cue" id="t-955" data-t="955">politicians,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-957" data-t="957">going on leave before</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-959">15:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-959" data-t="959">they can vote on the... Was it the clarity act? Hey, Dot.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-965">16:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-965" data-t="965">Mitch McConnell.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-966" data-t="966">Mitch McConnell's showing up and voting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-969" data-t="969">in the Senate.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-971" data-t="971">I don't know if you've seen any of the video or audio where he...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-976" data-t="976">When it's his turn to say yay or nay, he'll sometimes say the wrong thing and is, like, aids, you'll have to be, like, rushing in and be, like, no. Like, put your name on this button instead.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-985" data-t="985">It's unclear</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-987">16:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-987" data-t="987">that Mitch McConnell</span> <span class="cue" id="t-988" data-t="988">is, has a, you know, a functioning brain. His body is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-993" data-t="993">he's breathing. It looks like he is, his eyes move and can, he can hear,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-999" data-t="999">external stimuli and look towards you if you call his name.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1003" data-t="1003">He can wave. He can smile.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1006" data-t="1006">Mitch McConnell can smile,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1008">16:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1008" data-t="1008">very well.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1011" data-t="1011">Very normal, very normal smile too. He can smile normally, which is important. It's important to smile normally.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1019" data-t="1019">But it's unclear</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1020" data-t="1020">who's controlling him. Maybe an AI bot has been implanted in his mind. Maybe it's, you know, some billionaire who lives in Kentucky,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1030" data-t="1030">maybe it's Moloch, who knows?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1032" data-t="1032">Somebody controls it. It is...</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1035">17:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1035" data-t="1035">I think before we have Autopen</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1038" data-t="1038">controlled by data centers, we're going to have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1041" data-t="1041">people like Mitch McConnell,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1043" data-t="1043">Boomer's silent generation,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1045" data-t="1045">elderly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1047" data-t="1047">politicians who refuse to die but can still smile normally.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1052">17:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1052" data-t="1052">And they'll be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1053" data-t="1053">controlled by,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1055" data-t="1055">you know, potentially... I mean, at least with the help of Claude, for example. Well, I think that's preferential.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1061">17:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1061" data-t="1061">It's the way that it used to be. Like, would you rather have your politician controlled by Claude or controlled by the CIA</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1067">17:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1067" data-t="1067">at this point? Right. Yeah. It's like we need to be able to verify</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1073" data-t="1073">that Mitch McConnell is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1075" data-t="1075">controlled by Claude</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1076" data-t="1076">or controlled by Croc</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1078" data-t="1078">and not controlled by, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1081" data-t="1081">somebody like his chief of staff or his, you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1084">18:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1084" data-t="1084">one of his donors</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1086" data-t="1086">or, you know, somebody in the CIA, somebody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1090" data-t="1090">in the the Department of War,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1092" data-t="1092">somebody in the Republican Party. We need to know that Mitch McConnell is directly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1096" data-t="1096">connected</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1098" data-t="1098">to Quad,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1099">18:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1099" data-t="1099">and that the props that are being legally...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1101" data-t="1101">Or the the information used legally being</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1104" data-t="1104">communicated to is being translated directly to Grok,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1108" data-t="1108">word for word,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1110" data-t="1110">so Gropp can understand the context. At least it's, you know, that it's being controlled by the American model. Yes. We don't want we definitely don't want Mitch McConnell controlled by a Chinese model.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1121" data-t="1121">Do we want our politicians</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1123">18:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1123" data-t="1123">controlled</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1124" data-t="1124">by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1126" data-t="1126">American</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1127" data-t="1127">open source models?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1129" data-t="1129">Or do we want them to be closed models that are more,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1133" data-t="1133">you know, controlled by local</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1135">18:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1135" data-t="1135">and state governments? Or just some people...... Think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1139" data-t="1139">so, I mean, some people might think this is a far stretch, but I don't know. I mean, I I see a radical improvement by replacing the politicians with AI.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1148" data-t="1148">I don't see how it could get much worse than it is right now. But then there's the conspiracy theory that</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1154">19:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1154" data-t="1154">we already have that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1156" data-t="1156">replaced</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1158" data-t="1158">our politicians with AI,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1161" data-t="1161">because they've outsourced</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1163" data-t="1163">their</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1165" data-t="1165">the politicians we've been voting for, they've outsourced</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1168">19:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1168" data-t="1168">their faking to AI models, and this is the result of that. Like, the Iran war was the result of Pete Hegseth, Donald Trump,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1176" data-t="1176">and the neocons in the Department of War and the State Department</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1180" data-t="1180">by coding,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1182" data-t="1182">you know, a one week war to win the war in Iran and killed David by a Taliban.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1187" data-t="1187">Is everything downstream of politicians</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1190" data-t="1190">are asking Barack or asking Chanchi PT</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1193">19:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1193" data-t="1193">to post a tweet... To make a tweet for them, or to respond, or how do they should vote?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1197" data-t="1197">And we're just paying</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1200" data-t="1200">6 figure salaries, and with all these health benefits, to these politicians</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1205" data-t="1205">who are have... They're just using AI to do their jobs. We could just replace the middleman and save on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1211" data-t="1211">the salaries and the pensions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1213" data-t="1213">and now health insurance.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1215">20:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1215" data-t="1215">I mean, it's just, it it generally seems like a no brainer that it has to be done.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1220" data-t="1220">The question is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1222" data-t="1222">how should it be done?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1224" data-t="1224">We were kind of posing that a little bit earlier. One more question though, do we want</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1229">20:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1229" data-t="1229">all... Do we want, like, maybe the Senate to be AI</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1234" data-t="1234">and congress to still be humans? So, like, what's the mix we want there? Because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1238" data-t="1238">I'm thinking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1240" data-t="1240">I definitely want Claude to be mostly in control of all the Democrat seats, but I still...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1246" data-t="1246">I would still vote for Thomas Massie.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1249" data-t="1249">So we want maybe, like, AI bots mixed in with guys like Rand Paul, Thomas Massey,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1254">20:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1254" data-t="1254">Justin Amash,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1256" data-t="1256">or, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1257" data-t="1257">outsource them too. When</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1260">20:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1260" data-t="1260">AI starts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1261" data-t="1261">being implemented and replacing politicians, like, are term limits as necessary?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1266" data-t="1266">And, like, how many iterations of... Like, like, can you change the iteration</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1271" data-t="1271">of the the AI during its term? What are the parameters on that? Right. You're like, what if we</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1277">21:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1277" data-t="1277">what if we replace the Supreme Court with AI</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1281" data-t="1281">and it was like, you know, CHADGT</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1285" data-t="1285">model,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1286" data-t="1286">whatever,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1287" data-t="1287">this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1288" data-t="1288">Is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1289">21:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1289" data-t="1289">that Supreme Court Justice AI just going to hold that, be running on that same model for the next two decades, three decades?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1296" data-t="1296">Or do we need to put term limits on models?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1299">21:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1299" data-t="1299">I think it's a little bit too early to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1302" data-t="1302">be thinking about replacing the Supreme Court</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1306" data-t="1306">with AI.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1307" data-t="1307">I think probably in the next couple of years, we can start looking at that, but I think the the first focus should be congress.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1313" data-t="1313">And and the reason why I say that is because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1317" data-t="1317">the the legal system is still kinda ironing</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1320">21:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1320" data-t="1320">things out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1321" data-t="1321">where,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1323" data-t="1323">the court systems are being flooded</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1325" data-t="1325">with AI slop,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1327" data-t="1327">and the judges are too old to know how to use their computers or phones to just, like, feed it in to chat gbt to have it decipher.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1335" data-t="1335">And so there there needs to be, like, a a change in that regard, at least</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1340">22:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1340" data-t="1340">for it to to get figured out. But at at this point, congress is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1344" data-t="1344">it's it's all kfabe and it's pretty useless.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1347" data-t="1347">It doesn't really serve in a much of a function.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1350">22:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1350" data-t="1350">What about...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1351" data-t="1351">How do we how do</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1353" data-t="1353">we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1355" data-t="1355">have elections</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1356" data-t="1356">for AI models? Is it...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1359" data-t="1359">Do we let the free market decide? Like, in the libertarian standard, like, are we electing</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1365">22:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1365" data-t="1365">Claude</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1366" data-t="1366">controlled by Mitch McConnell?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1369" data-t="1369">Are we going to...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1371" data-t="1371">How how do we have primaries?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1374" data-t="1374">Those might be questions we have to sort out later.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1377">22:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1377" data-t="1377">Well, I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1378" data-t="1378">think...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1379" data-t="1379">I I think what you essentially do is you you have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1383" data-t="1383">the the AI run a political</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1386" data-t="1386">political campaign</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1387" data-t="1387">just like you would a normal human being.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1390">23:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1390" data-t="1390">So like the AI has to direct</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1393" data-t="1393">and get,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1394" data-t="1394">signatures, get on balance.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1396">23:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1396" data-t="1396">They have to... It's gotta be endorsed by Dennis Porter if he wants the Bitcoin or both. Yes. And it could it could generate slot videos to to campaign and speeches,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1407">23:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1407" data-t="1407">and it could have, like, an avatar</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1409">23:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1409" data-t="1409">speak for it. Okay. So we're... We are... It sounds like we're reinventing the wheel.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1417" data-t="1417">And as libertarians, that is what we're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1420" data-t="1420">best at doing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1422" data-t="1422">Libertarians reinvent the wheel.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1424" data-t="1424">Anarchists, altruists, they reinvent the wheel better than anybody.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1428" data-t="1428">So now, while we're doing that, while we're reinventing the wheel, how do we make it the most efficient</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1435">23:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1435" data-t="1435">and the most thermodynamically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1437" data-t="1437">sound?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1438" data-t="1438">Do</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1440" data-t="1440">do we do they have have we orange pill them? I mean, how do we orange pill these models? How do we orange pill these politicians?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1446" data-t="1446">And which,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1449" data-t="1449">which way how do we wait for morality?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1452">24:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1452" data-t="1452">How do we wait it for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1456" data-t="1456">example,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1457" data-t="1457">we're gonna be executing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1459" data-t="1459">the Fort Hood terrorists and we're gonna be live streaming that, not us, I mean, as, as a podcast, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1466" data-t="1466">it will be done on Zap. Stream,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1468" data-t="1468">so you can zap the executioner</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1471">24:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1471" data-t="1471">pulling the the trigger. But this guy's gotta be in a wheelchair,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1475" data-t="1475">and people are crashing out about this. They are split, and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1480" data-t="1480">how do we how do we wait our our our AI to know that this is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1486" data-t="1486">a a great way to monetize</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1488" data-t="1488">one of the rituals and traditions of our</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1491" data-t="1491">new digital</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1493">24:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1493" data-t="1493">political system because that's very important. People want to have their their traditions and rituals built into these AI models. Yeah. I mean, I think it's a it's a combination</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1504">25:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1504" data-t="1504">of training it on Alex Fetzky's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1507" data-t="1507">model that he</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1509" data-t="1509">built a while ago. What what was that thing called? Something, Satoshi?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1513">25:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1513" data-t="1513">Yeah. Like Nakamoto LLM or Satoshi LLM.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1516">25:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1516" data-t="1516">I forgot what the name of it was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1518" data-t="1518">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1519" data-t="1519">you start there and then you can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1522" data-t="1522">you can train it on our favorite podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1525" data-t="1525">So for... Like, in this example, for the AI to understand the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1532" data-t="1532">importance of value value</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1534">25:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1534" data-t="1534">value for value, you could go back and train it on Adam</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1538" data-t="1538">Curry podcast appearances.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1540" data-t="1540">You could train it on,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1542" data-t="1542">Avi Burra</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1543">25:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1543" data-t="1543">and Pub Chain Radio. We could do a lot of that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1546" data-t="1546">But now I wanna... You know, as we... These... This could be the best model. It's the best political</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1554" data-t="1554">ideology,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1555" data-t="1555">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1556" data-t="1556">what really makes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1557" data-t="1557">any of these LLMs, any of these models,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1561">26:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1561" data-t="1561">any of these versions,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1564" data-t="1564">but that is the power. You need power behind them. You need energy, you need electricity, you need lots and lots of compute and tokens.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1574" data-t="1574">How does</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1575" data-t="1575">a a political system replace the politicians that we're building these libertarian models? How do we... What's the model for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1582" data-t="1582">energy production and data centers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1585" data-t="1585">and selling?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1587">26:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1587" data-t="1587">And it all... And who builds the roads? How do the AI models build the roads</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1592" data-t="1592">and the communities to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1594" data-t="1594">create a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1595" data-t="1595">grid with enough power</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1597" data-t="1597">to kind of win the soft war that naturally arises when all politicians</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1602" data-t="1602">are clankers?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1603">26:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1603" data-t="1603">Well, I mean, here's the beauty of it is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1606" data-t="1606">it's kind of a Trojan horse scenario because the... What the politicians are trying to do right now, what the heads of corporate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1613" data-t="1613">industry are trying to do right now is they're trying to replace the playoffs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1616" data-t="1616">with AI. And so, like, they're okay with the build out of, data centers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1623" data-t="1623">across the board. Like, they're they're championing it and sharing it because they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1628" data-t="1628">they can't wait to replace the plaques and everything that they do,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1633">27:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1633" data-t="1633">not knowing that they're also gonna be replacing themselves</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1637" data-t="1637">in the outcome.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1638" data-t="1638">So, I mean, the the the zoning is is already</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1641" data-t="1641">being done,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1643">27:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1643" data-t="1643">these giant gigawatt sites. Are we gonna build nuclear plants?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1647" data-t="1647">Are we gonna have,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1649" data-t="1649">completely,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1650" data-t="1650">you know, it's your property.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1652" data-t="1652">You could build</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1653" data-t="1653">a nuclear reactor</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1655">27:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1655" data-t="1655">on your land,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1657" data-t="1657">with whatever parts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1659" data-t="1659">and whatever</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1661" data-t="1661">constituent, you know, whoever you got, you hire... Bring in some immigrants,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1665" data-t="1665">to build a a reactor for you by... Pick them up at Home Depot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1671" data-t="1671">Are we just gonna have all these</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1673">27:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1673" data-t="1673">Home Depot immigrant built,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1676" data-t="1676">nuclear</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1677" data-t="1677">power plants</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1679" data-t="1679">all over, like, Iowa and and Idaho and Missouri?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1683">28:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1683" data-t="1683">What are we gonna do with the excess nuclear energy from all these plants? Well, Well, I think it's gonna take some time to to build some plants</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1691" data-t="1691">and if there's anything that we've learned from the Fabians,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1695" data-t="1695">it's to have a patient mindset and and take the the steps of incrementalism.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1702" data-t="1702">It's probably not reasonable to think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1705" data-t="1705">we're gonna have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1707" data-t="1707">nuclear reactors</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1709">28:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1709" data-t="1709">in every neighborhood</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1711" data-t="1711">in the next few years.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1713" data-t="1713">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1714" data-t="1714">in the next twenty years, we very well could.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1718" data-t="1718">Part of it is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1720" data-t="1720">controlling the narratives and and and being involved in education</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1724">28:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1724" data-t="1724">of convincing people that these things are necessary,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1727" data-t="1727">and waiting for the older generations that would be opposed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1730" data-t="1730">against it to leave.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1731">28:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1731" data-t="1731">When do you see</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1733" data-t="1733">the first</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1734" data-t="1734">AI precedent?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1735" data-t="1735">Back in 2028,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1737" data-t="1737">2032,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1739">28:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1739" data-t="1739">when do you see that? Well, I mean, if we can... If we could get AI into Congress</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1745" data-t="1745">in 2026,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1748" data-t="1748">I think very well you could see it in 2028 or,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1751" data-t="1751">2032.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1752">29:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1752" data-t="1752">Do you think that would be a Republican or a Democrat? Or do you think that it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1756" data-t="1756">is that where we we we finally got third parties or just like a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1761" data-t="1761">a break in the two party system as we know it today? Where do</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1766" data-t="1766">the AI politicians</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1769" data-t="1769">kind of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1770" data-t="1770">adopt that legacy</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1773">29:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1773" data-t="1773">format or like the</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1774">29:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1774" data-t="1774">grouping like that? Well, I I very well think it could be a third party and and I think this is where the libertarians could actually take a victory for once.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1784" data-t="1784">And and the reason why is because the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1787" data-t="1787">the uni party</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1788" data-t="1788">system of Republicans and Democrats do not want to lose out on their perks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1793" data-t="1793">Like, they they they wanna be in office. They they have the most to lose. Now now libertarians</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1797" data-t="1797">don't have anybody in office.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1799">29:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1799" data-t="1799">So I think they'd be willing to to innovate on this front and and try something.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1804">30:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1804" data-t="1804">But, I mean, they could a good example. They could set the example, the blueprint for how</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1811" data-t="1811">to make this transition.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1812">30:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1812" data-t="1812">Yeah, if anybody has something to gain from it, it's them. And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1817">30:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1817" data-t="1817">one of the biggest resistance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1820" data-t="1820">you're going to we're going to have to let's just face it to this entire transition</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1824" data-t="1824">will be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1825" data-t="1825">those who are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1827" data-t="1827">benefiting from the money laundering because politics, especially the party system, is a very complex,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1834" data-t="1834">very well protected,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1838">30:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1838" data-t="1838">form of money wanderer. People's campaigns, all campaign finance laws are basically money laundering laws.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1845" data-t="1845">Educating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1847" data-t="1847">the public</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1849" data-t="1849">about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1850" data-t="1850">how much better it is to launder money using AI and compute and data centers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1857" data-t="1857">compared to the legacy political campaign finance</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1860">31:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1860" data-t="1860">law system is going to be the key here. Once people realize the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1865" data-t="1865">incredible opportunity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1867" data-t="1867">to launder</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1869" data-t="1869">ungodly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1870" data-t="1870">amounts of money very effectively</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1872" data-t="1872">and very efficiently through AI,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1875">31:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1875" data-t="1875">you're going to see more support</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1877" data-t="1877">and more energy behind</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1880" data-t="1880">AI politics.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1881">31:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1881" data-t="1881">Absolutely.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1882">31:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1882" data-t="1882">And this is really where AI is is is dominating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1887" data-t="1887">what people thought.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1889" data-t="1889">You look at the FPX thing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1891" data-t="1891">politicians were starting to get really excited about the opportunity to money lawn... Launder money through crypto,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1897" data-t="1897">but AI has replaced us.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1900" data-t="1900">AI has been</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1901">31:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1901" data-t="1901">the deck now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1903" data-t="1903">to crypto,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1905" data-t="1905">due as global money laundering opportunities.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1908" data-t="1908">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1909" data-t="1909">for that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1910" data-t="1910">laundering to be done ultimately to settle</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1914">31:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1914" data-t="1914">in USDT and Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1917" data-t="1917">that is where,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1918" data-t="1918">you know, the big Bitcoin air defense won with AI.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1921">32:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1921" data-t="1921">And the Libertarian authority can be in on this too at the ground floor. Yeah. It's it's gonna be challenging to convince them to do anything that would lead to victory, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1933" data-t="1933">there's a very real possibility they might understand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1936" data-t="1936">this as it it seems to meet their,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1939" data-t="1939">purity test parameters of coming up with free market solutions.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1943">32:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1943" data-t="1943">Absolutely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1945" data-t="1945">So...</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1946">32:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1946" data-t="1946">Go ahead. I've been noticing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1949" data-t="1949">Big Bitcoin seems like it's almost entirely pivoted to AI. Seems so. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1954">32:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1954" data-t="1954">It is an entirely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1957" data-t="1957">AI</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1959" data-t="1959">generated and derived</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1961" data-t="1961">branding. It's it's just a brand that covers everything and it's in control and it's all AI. It's it's an interesting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1968" data-t="1968">it's an interesting strategy because it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1971" data-t="1971">pivoted to AI but it's still considered in control of Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1975">32:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1975" data-t="1975">I got... It's kind of cognitive dissonance there. It really has nothing to do with Bitcoin. It seems like all the the big Bitcoin events are... They're starting to</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1984">33:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1984" data-t="1984">pivot towards</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1985" data-t="1985">being titled something along the lines of freedom technology.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1991" data-t="1991">And this is the excuse to to kinda launch the brand in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1995" data-t="1995">in order to be able to talk about AI.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1998" data-t="1998">Is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1999" data-t="1999">Big Bitcoin gonna survive?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2002">33:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2002" data-t="2002">Well, it is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2004" data-t="2004">I think, a very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2006" data-t="2006">wise move to pivot towards freedom technology</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2010" data-t="2010">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2011" data-t="2011">the other big thing is just,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2013" data-t="2013">you know, digital sovereignty,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2016">33:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2016" data-t="2016">Sovereignty over your digital</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2018" data-t="2018">platform. Sovereignty over your digital communication. Sovereignty over your digital interaction with the other... Most of the digital</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2026" data-t="2026">realm that is increasingly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2028" data-t="2028">being erected.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2031" data-t="2031">The digital panopticon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2033" data-t="2033">that is being erected.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2034">33:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2034" data-t="2034">So freedom go... You know, freedom technology and sovereignty in the digital age are great because number go up,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2041" data-t="2041">but it's really impossible</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2043" data-t="2043">to measure it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2046" data-t="2046">They're both</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2047" data-t="2047">perfect kayfabe's.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2049" data-t="2049">Feeling in control</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2052">34:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2052" data-t="2052">and being sovereign and having freedom technology</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2055" data-t="2055">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2056" data-t="2056">fundamentally</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2057" data-t="2057">kayfabe.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2058" data-t="2058">And if you can convince people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2062" data-t="2062">that you can have this digital presence, this digital interaction with the digital state</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2068">34:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2068" data-t="2068">in a freedom</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2070" data-t="2070">and sovereign way</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2072" data-t="2072">convincing people that they they have that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2074" data-t="2074">is fundamental</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2076" data-t="2076">to convincing them,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2079" data-t="2079">that that that compliance is defiance.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2082">34:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2082" data-t="2082">Do you think the type of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2085" data-t="2085">dialogue that we're discussing is going to lead to a Terminator</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2090" data-t="2090">type scenario where we're fighting robots in Los Angeles in 2030?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2095">34:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2095" data-t="2095">Well, we're fighting them on the timeline now. We're fighting them in the algorithm now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2100" data-t="2100">We're already fighting them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2102" data-t="2102">in the digital streets.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2104" data-t="2104">Will we fight them in the physical streets?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2108" data-t="2108">Or will we fight their</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2110" data-t="2110">constituents?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2112">35:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2112" data-t="2112">Their political constituents? We'll be fighting their constituents</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2115" data-t="2115">in the streets and we'll be fighting them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2118" data-t="2118">on the timeline.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2119" data-t="2119">I think that's actually already happening. So it's almost an inevitability.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2123" data-t="2123">Yeah. It's... You say, yeah, I don't I don't wanna be a part of this upcoming breaded circus.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2130" data-t="2130">It's like, Mynega, you are the breaded circus. You're in the breaded circus. The situation you're monitoring is a mirror. The situation you are monitoring</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2139">35:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2139" data-t="2139">and is making you feel a doomer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2142" data-t="2142">is your own reflection.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2144" data-t="2144">It's your own reality.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2146" data-t="2146">And as more and more people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2149" data-t="2149">see their... See</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2150" data-t="2150">the reflection of society in the mirror, which is getting harder and harder to look away from,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2157">35:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2157" data-t="2157">the more they're gonna crash out.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2159" data-t="2159">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2160" data-t="2160">I think maybe the second half of this... Rest of this episode, it's it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2165" data-t="2165">addressing we make fun of the doomers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2168" data-t="2168">But, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2170" data-t="2170">how do you avoid being a doomer</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2173">36:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2173" data-t="2173">when</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2174" data-t="2174">everything looks like doom? How do you survive the doomer cave</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2179">36:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2179" data-t="2179">without becoming a doomer yourself? Well, I think, you know, one of the big ones is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2184" data-t="2184">we need to convince doomer's wives</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2187" data-t="2187">to put their husbands on time out and take their funds away. And this this could happen for your own wife. If you if you start espousing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2194" data-t="2194">too much doom,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2195" data-t="2195">she makes you go</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2197" data-t="2197">out to the woods</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2198">36:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2198" data-t="2198">and chop wood</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2200" data-t="2200">for a day.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2201">36:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2201" data-t="2201">Yeah. Think about it. If you are a doomer, you fundamentally</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2205" data-t="2205">think that your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2208" data-t="2208">survival</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2209" data-t="2209">in the near to medium future</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2211" data-t="2211">will rest on your ability to chop wood.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2214" data-t="2214">So you need to go out and you need to practice.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2216">36:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2216" data-t="2216">You need to be chopping wood.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2218" data-t="2218">You need to be foraging</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2220" data-t="2220">for berries and mushrooms in the forest.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2223" data-t="2223">You need to be building</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2225" data-t="2225">log cabins.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2227" data-t="2227">You need to be training on your ability to</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2231">37:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2231" data-t="2231">terrify</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2233" data-t="2233">the water from the local, you know, stream, river, lake, whatever it is. You need to be learning how to put moss and keep stuff on top of your cabin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2243" data-t="2243">you don't have access to shingles.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2245" data-t="2245">Your wife needs to send you out to Mogwans to do these tasks to remind yourself of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2251" data-t="2251">if you keep</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2252" data-t="2252">having this doom cycle,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2254">37:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2254" data-t="2254">and you're right, this is how you're gonna have to survive, you need to be training for it. Yeah, you</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2261">37:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2261" data-t="2261">need to... Wives need to understand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2264" data-t="2264">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2265" data-t="2265">it's not productive to allow your husbands</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2268" data-t="2268">to live in these hypothetical worlds.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2270" data-t="2270">And that if they're if they're gonna be coming in, they're gonna be talking about how the financial system is gonna collapse and, you know, everything is fucked or, you know, whatever,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2279" data-t="2279">then they need to be behaving like it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2282">38:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2282" data-t="2282">There's no time to waste</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2284" data-t="2284">by dilly dallying and watching,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2286" data-t="2286">YouTube doom slot videos.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2289" data-t="2289">They need to be out there. They need to be,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2292" data-t="2292">figuring out a way to mitigate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2294" data-t="2294">the coming doom.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2296">38:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2296" data-t="2296">And in that scenario,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2298" data-t="2298">the individual will not have access to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2302" data-t="2302">the Internet</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2303" data-t="2303">to be in a doom loop. And as out... They're out there cutting down trees or, you know, whatever they're doing, chopping wood,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2311" data-t="2311">they'll have some time to self reflect on whether or not being in the doom spiral</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2317">38:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2317" data-t="2317">is worth the time. Right. Because it it... It's generally hard work.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2322" data-t="2322">They will have to learn that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2324" data-t="2324">if they don't want to chop wood or clean the garage,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2327" data-t="2327">they have to learn...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2329" data-t="2329">Figure out a way to be optimistic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2331" data-t="2331">online. They have to figure out a way to...</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2334">38:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2334" data-t="2334">Or contribute</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2335" data-t="2335">to the solution</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2337" data-t="2337">in the discourse</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2339" data-t="2339">on spaces or on the timeline.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2341" data-t="2341">And if they can't, if they can't be online</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2344" data-t="2344">without crashing out,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2345">39:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2345" data-t="2345">then they don't need to be online.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2347" data-t="2347">They need to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2349" data-t="2349">alga and blisters and mosquito bites and frostbite</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2352" data-t="2352">working on projects</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2354" data-t="2354">in the real world,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2355" data-t="2355">reminding themselves what a man's role is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2358">39:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2358" data-t="2358">in the apocalypse.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2360">39:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2360" data-t="2360">Now if if a woman's crashing out online</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2363" data-t="2363">for similar reasons,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2364" data-t="2364">you know, there there's other things that, you can have her do. Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2370" data-t="2370">crocheting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2371" data-t="2371">is a good one. Making,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2373" data-t="2373">sourdough</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2374">39:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2374" data-t="2374">bread</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2376" data-t="2376">is a good one. Make... Making her husband's bed. Making homemade ice cream. It's a... Have you ever had have you ever had the Amish ice cream?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2384">39:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2384" data-t="2384">I have.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2385" data-t="2385">It's it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2387" data-t="2387">it's like raw milk. It's a different experience</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2390" data-t="2390">from the Fiat version.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2392">39:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2392" data-t="2392">Otis Bittmeyer had some Amish ice cream</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2395" data-t="2395">at Lake Satoshi this year. What do</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2398">39:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2398" data-t="2398">you think what do you... How long do you think it would take Tropin Wood</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2402" data-t="2402">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2403" data-t="2403">you know, doing that type of work</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2405" data-t="2405">to cure Shenoudi of being a doomer? Because he's definitely fallen down the doomer rabbit hole.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2410">40:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2410" data-t="2410">Probably not very long because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2413" data-t="2413">I imagine Shenoudi</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2415" data-t="2415">getting out there and trying to cut wood. I doubt he's ever spent time chopping wood, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2420" data-t="2420">he'd probably go out there with his samurai swords</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2424" data-t="2424">thinking that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2425" data-t="2425">it was some anime show. And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2428">40:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2428" data-t="2428">as you probably know... I I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2430" data-t="2430">not from experience, but just from,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2433" data-t="2433">logic.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2434">40:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2434" data-t="2434">Samurai swords are not an effective way to chop wood. That's a good I mean, that's a good analogy. Shinobi</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2441" data-t="2441">thinks that he could survive,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2443" data-t="2443">you know, whatever</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2445" data-t="2445">apocalyptic scenario he's always talking about that we're headed towards where he's gonna end up in jail.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2451" data-t="2451">That's what his that's what his fantasy is. He's gonna end up in jail during this apocalypse for what he has to do is what he thinks is necessary. Shelby thinks he's gonna survive</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2460" data-t="2460">the South Side Of Chicago</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2462">41:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2462" data-t="2462">in an apocalypse</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2464" data-t="2464">with a samurai sword. I don't know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2466" data-t="2466">how detached from reality you have to be to think that you're gonna survive</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2471" data-t="2471">the South Side Of Chicago</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2473" data-t="2473">running around, the weirdo running with a samurai sword.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2476" data-t="2476">But, I mean, folks, it's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2478">41:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2478" data-t="2478">it's come on, if he if Shinobi really had as much doom in his heart as he communicates,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2484" data-t="2484">you would be you would be in that cabin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2488" data-t="2488">you know, in Uncle Ted's cabin like he talks about, he would not be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2492" data-t="2492">playing with</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2494">41:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2494" data-t="2494">with samurai swords. Like, maybe this is an opportunity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2497" data-t="2497">of of... There needs to be, like, a a doomer rehab</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2501" data-t="2501">of scent.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2503" data-t="2503">You know, you could you could have a series of uncle Ted's cabins where individuals like Shinobi could get sent for some</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2510" data-t="2510">rehabilitation, and and they can learn how to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2513" data-t="2513">chop wood with a with a good axe instead of a samurai sword and do it the right way. Oh, yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2521">42:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2521" data-t="2521">One of the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2522" data-t="2522">other developments, you know, we talked about this a little bit, is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2527" data-t="2527">the the cancel culture stuff, like this social,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2531" data-t="2531">there's like one main current</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2534" data-t="2534">story and everybody's fighting over it and it is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2538" data-t="2538">between, you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2540">42:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2540" data-t="2540">the Cornell seven</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2542" data-t="2542">and now we're gonna do public executions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2545" data-t="2545">of criminals,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2546" data-t="2546">of terrorists,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2547" data-t="2547">of doomers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2549" data-t="2549">in The United States starting with this old</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2551">42:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2551" data-t="2551">the old terrorist guy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2553" data-t="2553">in a wheelchair. It's gonna be the first Federal Government,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2558" data-t="2558">death penalty execution. It's gonna be the first time they use the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2563" data-t="2563">firing squad in like, I don't know, since the last third turning or something.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2569" data-t="2569">And they're the first guy's gonna be a Palestinian.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2573" data-t="2573">Half the country seems to think this is badass based. The other half is questioning pearls</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2579">42:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2579" data-t="2579">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2581" data-t="2581">saying that they're, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2583" data-t="2583">aghast at the evil of society.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2587" data-t="2587">Once they know you what is this this is just the new bite in the sand. It's either based or it's the most disgusting, vile</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2595" data-t="2595">sign of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2597" data-t="2597">a crumbling civilization.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2599">43:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2599" data-t="2599">How do you know where to stand on each of these issues? Because it's just going to be one after the other. There's going to be another one this week.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2605">43:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2605" data-t="2605">You're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2606" data-t="2606">asking how to know which side of it, whatever the current thing is to stand on? Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2611">43:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2611" data-t="2611">Is it something you just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2613" data-t="2613">call them on with the team, the group chat, or how do you think for yourself</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2618">43:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2618" data-t="2618">in the culture wars? Well, I think it's, you know, the the modern answer of, you know, what</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2624" data-t="2624">Brad Mills or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2626" data-t="2626">somebody like that would say, is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2629" data-t="2629">consult chat CBT.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2631" data-t="2631">But</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2631">for me personally,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2633">43:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2633" data-t="2633">I don't really think there... There's a whole lot of a reason</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2637" data-t="2637">to have much of an opinion</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2639" data-t="2639">on whatever the current thing is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2641" data-t="2641">such as the Cornell seven. I think the the the proper</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2646" data-t="2646">way to look at it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2648" data-t="2648">is asking the question of how do you exploit</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2650">44:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2650" data-t="2650">the current thing. What is a good way to exploit,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2653" data-t="2653">you know, this is good examples, app. Stream</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2657" data-t="2657">or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2658" data-t="2658">the first public education of a Palestinian,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2662" data-t="2662">that'll bring... You could bring back the offer. The</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2665" data-t="2665">the Cornell seven is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2669">44:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2669" data-t="2669">a good way to sell peptides to girls.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2671" data-t="2671">You can be the one showing up the rape in the frat house. If you take</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2675" data-t="2675">time chained peptides,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2677" data-t="2677">and you become strong like Lisa Craig, you could be teasing, you know. Let people know that there's a product</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2684" data-t="2684">available,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2685" data-t="2685">a solu... Big... And if it's your Bitcoiner, let them know</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2690">44:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2690" data-t="2690">at each</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2691" data-t="2691">step of the way, not by telling them how Bitcoin fixes this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2695" data-t="2695">but showing them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2697" data-t="2697">Show them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2698" data-t="2698">how Bitcoin fixes public executions in The United States. Show them how this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2703" data-t="2703">fixes</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2704">45:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2704" data-t="2704">monetization</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2706" data-t="2706">of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2707" data-t="2707">rape accusations.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2708">45:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2708" data-t="2708">Show them how this fixes this. Yeah. I think bringing the value for value model,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2713" data-t="2713">generally, you know, to executions,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2716" data-t="2716">to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2717" data-t="2717">you know, maybe court hearings in certain circumstances</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2721" data-t="2721">that, you know, certain certain court,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2724" data-t="2724">proceedings are televised</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2726">45:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2726" data-t="2726">from time to time in high profile cases.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2729" data-t="2729">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2730" data-t="2730">I think, yeah, this is this is a great way to bring back Noster. This is a great way to, you know, potentially sell your your product or do that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2737" data-t="2737">This could be the the potential.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2740" data-t="2740">This could revive start nine's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2742" data-t="2742">business model.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2744">45:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2744" data-t="2744">They could be selling servers for,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2746" data-t="2746">you know, maybe different prisons around the country</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2749" data-t="2749">might need</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2751" data-t="2751">to run their own Noster Relay. There there there's a lot of ways to to exploit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2757" data-t="2757">the situation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2759" data-t="2759">if you're creative enough.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2761">46:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2761" data-t="2761">And, you know, one of the one of the easy ones is if, if they show the the zaps in the in the live stream chat, this this is gonna be a pretty, I mean, I I don't know.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2771" data-t="2771">Is this the first time that that an execution has been live streamed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2775" data-t="2775">in The United States? Well, I...</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2778">46:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2778" data-t="2778">It's certainly the first,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2782" data-t="2782">that one done by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2784" data-t="2784">a federal or state US Government.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2787" data-t="2787">They're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2788" data-t="2788">they live stream,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2790" data-t="2790">executions on TikTok,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2792">46:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2792" data-t="2792">Facebook,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2793" data-t="2793">Instagram,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2794" data-t="2794">acts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2796" data-t="2796">self immolations,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2798" data-t="2798">police killing, you know, somebody who's, you know, they've been broke into a house or, you know, somebody in a car,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2805" data-t="2805">executions of</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2806">46:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2806" data-t="2806">police by criminals who are getting pulled over. They stream like that stuff all the time, but this is the first time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2812" data-t="2812">a state sanctioned,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2815" data-t="2815">democratically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2817" data-t="2817">affirmed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2818" data-t="2818">execution will be live streamed. This is the first time we're seeing a democratically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2822" data-t="2822">elected</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2824">47:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2824" data-t="2824">firing squad</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2825" data-t="2825">performing an execution.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2826">47:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2826" data-t="2826">I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2827" data-t="2827">if you got</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2829" data-t="2829">like, people are watching this livestream on zap. Stream, it's a it's a great opportunity to, you know, put some messages in the Zap, like, maybe we could, show SoapMiner</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2839" data-t="2839">in there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2840" data-t="2840">or the Orange Mart. Absolutely.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2843">47:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2843" data-t="2843">This is a great way to get to get your brand...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2846" data-t="2846">Get out brand awareness</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2848" data-t="2848">when you know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2850" data-t="2850">with those live shirt napping of something that the world is watching.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2853">47:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2853" data-t="2853">Well, one of the big stories this week is, Ledger seems to be somewhat impacted.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2859" data-t="2859">It seemed like it was a regional issue, correct, in a supply chain attack?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2863">47:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2863" data-t="2863">Yeah. And it was like a Southeast Asian supplier,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2867" data-t="2867">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2868" data-t="2868">like, $80,000,000,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2870" data-t="2870">worth of of Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2872" data-t="2872">was compromised and stolen</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2874">47:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2874" data-t="2874">and a supply chain attack. Do you think that Home Depot office paper is at the same risk of a supply chain attack like this one? Could you embed malicious hardware</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2885" data-t="2885">inside of, Office Depot paper?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2888">48:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2888" data-t="2888">No. No. This is why paper wallets</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2890" data-t="2890">are still the standard.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2892" data-t="2892">Bitcoin Core paper wallet.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2894">48:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2894" data-t="2894">I I do think there is a risk of, you know, maybe an attacker... I I think the risk is pretty low because the majority of people that are buying</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2903" data-t="2903">Office Depot pair... Paper</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2907" data-t="2907">are not buying it to generate seed phrases on...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2910" data-t="2910">Or write seed phrases on.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2912" data-t="2912">And so in this scenario,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2915" data-t="2915">it has, like, a much broader surface area</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2918">48:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2918" data-t="2918">of, like, the unlikelihood</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2920" data-t="2920">of it happening. But to be safe, it's probably a good idea to take your paper</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2925" data-t="2925">and maybe throw it in the microwave for, like, thirty minutes... Or not thirty minutes, but, you know, thirty seconds before you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2932" data-t="2932">to potentially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2933" data-t="2933">zap any nanoparticles</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2935" data-t="2935">that are on it that could</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2938">48:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2938" data-t="2938">lead to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2939" data-t="2939">discovery</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2940" data-t="2940">by a third party of your C phrase.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2943" data-t="2943">But you can't you can't throw a ledger device in the microwave</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2947" data-t="2947">for thirty seconds to do the same thing. Or a cold card for that matter. Or a Bitbox or,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2953" data-t="2953">a Bitkey.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2955">49:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2955" data-t="2955">I don't I don't think there's any, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2958" data-t="2958">specific purpose,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2960" data-t="2960">sign in devices,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2961" data-t="2961">single purpose signing devices like this that you could throw on a microwave to be safe from. Makes you think. Did did you see that Mossad denied</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2970" data-t="2970">planning explosives</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2971">49:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2971" data-t="2971">on the ledger devices that were compromised? I don't blame them. I don't blame them, but, you know, you have to expect that they will be suspect... Suspected.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2980">49:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2980" data-t="2980">So Neat Creations has been at the center of the timeline. He's had a big week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2985" data-t="2985">What what is going on,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2987" data-t="2987">for him?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2988" data-t="2988">And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2989">49:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2989" data-t="2989">does it have to do with Pokemon cards? Yeah, he's become the main character, the main club,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2996" data-t="2996">he's really just a, some say he's wacky, some say he's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3001" data-t="3001">starting to work, but he's just got a very memeable face and he's taken over. It's like a crash out weekend</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3010" data-t="3010">tidal wave</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3012" data-t="3012">of knee creation slop.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3015" data-t="3015">And I think it's, it is a</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3018">50:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3018" data-t="3018">harbinger or a sign,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3021" data-t="3021">that anybody who thought</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3023" data-t="3023">meat creation slop was going away,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3026" data-t="3026">is sadly mistaken.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3028">50:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3028" data-t="3028">My question is how long is he gonna sustain? Generally, these individuals that post like this, they have a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3034" data-t="3034">they they go one of a few ways. Either they flame out eventually or they join a</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3039">50:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3039" data-t="3039">Bitcoin Treasury company. I don't have a prediction for this one yet, but you're right. It's... This is either going to...</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3046" data-t="3046">He's either going to implode</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3050" data-t="3050">or explode</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3051" data-t="3051">from the spotlight. I don't know if he's ready for the spotlight. I don't know if he's mentally prepared</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3057" data-t="3057">for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3058" data-t="3058">the constant</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3060">50:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3060" data-t="3060">having to be on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3061" data-t="3061">and being the main character in the spotlight.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3065" data-t="3065">But maybe he'll surprise us, and maybe he will,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3069" data-t="3069">maybe he'll be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3070" data-t="3070">the new, you know, on the next commercial for strategy for Stretch.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3074" data-t="3074">Maybe he'll be</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3076">51:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3076" data-t="3076">adopted by the C Coiners</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3078" data-t="3078">and turned into a brand or he will crash out. Maybe we need a prediction market for it. Maybe we'll see him on a panel at a conference with, Fred Krueger.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3087">51:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3087" data-t="3087">Incredible.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3089">51:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3089" data-t="3089">See if he can... He has the discipline to do what it takes to get there. It'll be an exciting development to watch</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3095">51:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3095" data-t="3095">going forward. While we're in October,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3097" data-t="3097">Bitcoin is traded sideways</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3099" data-t="3099">and down slightly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3101" data-t="3101">I think the question on everybody's mind is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3104" data-t="3104">is not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3105" data-t="3105">what our price predictions are, but where is there left to go to get price predictions?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3110">51:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3110" data-t="3110">What channels? I I guess, probably days, maybe. It's pretty much couchy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3115">51:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3115" data-t="3115">Everything's kinda condensed and compressed down to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3118" data-t="3118">market predictions.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3119" data-t="3119">So Calshi, Polymarket</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3121" data-t="3121">predicts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3123" data-t="3123">that's where you gotta go. The futures market,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3127" data-t="3127">Bitcoin futures, now the chain street's not manipulating them, that's a good</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3131">52:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3131" data-t="3131">signal. It's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3133" data-t="3133">it's boring now. It's like nobody telling gays,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3137" data-t="3137">his price prediction gets thrown in the pot with Jack Mallers and Max Keiser,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3143" data-t="3143">you know, Corey Clipston,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3145" data-t="3145">even, you know, they even take, CK.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3149" data-t="3149">It's not a number, it's not a prediction. It's just whatever the highest one is. It's not bullish enough.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3153">52:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3153" data-t="3153">They just put it all and they compute it and they,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3157" data-t="3157">we're regression.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3158" data-t="3158">It's... And then the market decides.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3161" data-t="3161">So, if not, if this morning,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3163" data-t="3163">we'll see what October is. The volatility</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3166" data-t="3166">in predictions</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3168">52:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3168" data-t="3168">has been,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3170" data-t="3170">tampered by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3171" data-t="3171">our prediction markets.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3173">52:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3173" data-t="3173">Is this is this part of the reason why,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3176" data-t="3176">Bitcoin podcasters are struggling so much anymore</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3180">52:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3180" data-t="3180">or now? Well, just just just the ones who aren't sponsored by the prediction markets.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3184" data-t="3184">Yeah. I mean, if you're sponsored by a prediction market,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3187" data-t="3187">those Bitcoin podcasters are doing fine. Those podcasters in general. But if you don't have that sponsorship,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3194" data-t="3194">you know, your plus slot prediction is not is not gonna carry the same</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3198" data-t="3198">same weight. Do do certain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3201" data-t="3201">prediction markets have higher standing</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3204">53:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3204" data-t="3204">impurity test,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3206" data-t="3206">issuance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3207" data-t="3207">culture? Like, PolyMarket</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3209">53:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3209" data-t="3209">maybe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3210" data-t="3210">has some,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3212" data-t="3212">points against it for the heavy use of stablecoins.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3216" data-t="3216">Predix, being Bitcoin native,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3219" data-t="3219">has some points for it. I don't know about Calshi. I I think they... It...</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3223">53:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3223" data-t="3223">You know, they all have their own community. You got the futures market. I was on Charles Schwab.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3230" data-t="3230">Brian, I think it's just a market for... I think all all... I think the main three predicts the Polymarket and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3236" data-t="3236">Kalshi.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3237" data-t="3237">You can you can pay through Bitcoin from one one half away,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3242" data-t="3242">at the end of the day. Well, folks,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3245">54:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3245" data-t="3245">I think this is wrap for this one, but as politicians and the and the heads of industry are trying to replace you with AI, just remember,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3253" data-t="3253">it doesn't have to be one-sided, and maybe there's a future for the libertarian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3257" data-t="3257">movement</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3258" data-t="3258">of replacing politicians with AI.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3261" data-t="3261">Rod, do you have anything before I wrap this one up? Just don't,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3265">54:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3265" data-t="3265">don't fall to the doom of JFED.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3267">54:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3267" data-t="3267">Folks, thank you for listening to another edition of the Beagle Weekly, and we'll catch you next week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3294" data-t="3294">The bombs are falling across the ocean.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3298" data-t="3298">Over here, the people quit their dreams.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3380">56:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3380" data-t="3380">They promised life would be good</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3384" data-t="3384">if we just in what we were told.</span></span></p>