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Influencers from all over the world gathered in Las Vegas to discuss compliance,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-13" data-t="13">NGU,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-14" data-t="14">Bitcoin treasury companies, and stablecoins.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-17">0:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Buster Cherry</b> <span class="cue" id="t-17" data-t="17">Bugle weekly PodCon correspondent, Buster Cherry, joins me with those headlines and more. Thanks, Kaylee. Happy Monday and good morning. The PodConf Super Bowl was indeed a spectacle to witness as all the biggest names in Bitcoin descended on Las Vegas. While walking around the conference surveying many of the attendees, many women expressed their discomfort due to a large number of men walking around with erections due to Dennis Porter being present at the event.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-40" data-t="40">I personally had to awkwardly hide my erection as Dennis had just walked by moments before.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-46" data-t="46">The conference was dominated by many strange stunts. Justin Sun gave Ross a banana, a just stop ordinals protester was arrested before being able to throw tomato soup on the ordinals section, and many people posed with the infamous Greenpeace skull sculpture for pictures. Much of the controversy around the event did not come from people at the event though, and instead from many people like Matthew Crater and Plutator on Twitter. I'm glad I didn't get to attend Buster. I sure would have been upset to have seen men walking around with erections because of Dennis Porter instead of me. Orange cells sure behave strangely when it comes to sex. Did you see any strange sexual behavior at the event?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-81">1:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Buster Cherry</b> <span class="cue" id="t-81" data-t="81">Yes, Kaylee. Unfortunately, I did. While talking to event security, they expressed concern that participants would act inappropriately during Lynn Alden's keynote due to her being hot. Fortunately, nothing out of the ordinary happened besides a couple of lackluster Lynn Alden is hot chants. One attendee was seen carried out of the main stage area though as he was caught masturbating during Michael Saylor's speaking slot. If there's one thing that's certain at these events,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-106" data-t="106">nothing seems to get these middle aged men hornier than a gay fed talking on stage. Generally, though, the participants seemed to be well behaved at the conference.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-115">1:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kailey Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-115" data-t="115">Outside of it, though, was a completely different story. I'm sure the intelligence agencies got a lot of compromising evidence on many Bitcoiners outside of the conference. We'll leave that one alone for now, though. Thanks for your reporting, buster. Before we go, here's some final headlines for the week. Maggie Morris and Ginger b Stiffen's flight was delayed leaving Vegas after Elizabeth Warren let out a bolos of hot air grounding flights leaving the city. Brad Garlinghouse was confused to learn this week that money cannot always buy politicians. The bugle had their first live event called Satterize the System, which was a smashing success. And Eric Cason delivered a noncompliant rant at the conference, which David Bailey is citing as the reason why the price of Bitcoin has dropped despite all the bullish announcements at the conference. My name is Kaylee Welch. And my name is Buster Cherry. Thank you for listening to this week's Bugle news headlines.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-167">2:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-167" data-t="167">Welcome to this edition</span> <span class="cue" id="t-169" data-t="169">of People Weekly. This is Richard Greaser.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-173" data-t="173">I have not yet recovered from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-176" data-t="176">the PodCon Super Bowl. It was a long weekend.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-179" data-t="179">Las Vegas. Las Vegas is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-182" data-t="182">very wild place.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-184">3:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-184" data-t="184">Jack Cruz won't even set foot in it because of all the EMFs, so I think that's part of it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-190" data-t="190">I I happen to smoke</span> <span class="cue" id="t-192" data-t="192">more cigarettes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-194" data-t="194">than normal out there, believe it or not.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-196" data-t="196">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-198" data-t="198">it was a good time. It was a good time. I spoke of cigarettes with, a bunch of people. I spoke cigarettes with</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-204">3:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-204" data-t="204">just about everybody I came in contact with.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-207" data-t="207">A lot of people wanted to smoke cigarettes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-210" data-t="210">with me just for the sake of doing it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-213" data-t="213">And I I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-215" data-t="215">we're making progress. The the the Bitcoin community is learning the importance of for HPW, learning the importance of cigarettes. We were there holding it down.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-224" data-t="224">How are you feeling, Rod?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-226">3:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-226" data-t="226">You recovered yet? I'm</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-229">3:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-229" data-t="229">slowly recovering.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-231" data-t="231">But, yeah, looking back on Vegas, had a great time. It was a great meeting. So many,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-236" data-t="236">members of the intellectual Silk Road and listeners</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-240">3:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-240" data-t="240">to the bugle.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-242">4:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-242" data-t="242">There was a lot of people who I was hoping to meet out there who I didn't get a chance to meet and talk to. So if that was if that was one of you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-250" data-t="250">we'll make sure we cross paths next time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-254" data-t="254">But I also learned a lot, and I learned</span> <span class="cue" id="t-257" data-t="257">the Vegas while being a very degenerate place. And, you know, there's a lot of criticisms I've heard people or read people, their take about Vegas, and it's hard to disagree with them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-268" data-t="268">But Vegas is the essence of being,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-271" data-t="271">whether you are, you know, just of human existence, at least from American perspective.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-277">4:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-277" data-t="277">It was nice to be there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-279" data-t="279">and to smoke inside and smoke inside with boomers who were gambling away their social security checks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-285" data-t="285">And that is basically what life in America</span> <span class="cue" id="t-289" data-t="289">has really boiled down to for a lot of people. Just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-292" data-t="292">smoking cigarettes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-293" data-t="293">and gamble and weigh your future. Gamble and weigh your Social Security checks. And I think that</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-300">5:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-300" data-t="300">like Las Vegas,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-302" data-t="302">people went to Bitcoin twenty twenty five</span> <span class="cue" id="t-305" data-t="305">and they realized that we can do better.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-308" data-t="308">We can be better people. We can be more healthy. We can do better than gamble in a way our social security and, just living</span> <span class="cue" id="t-316" data-t="316">for that lifestyle. And we can also do better as Bitcoiners and have a better conference.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-321" data-t="321">It was</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-322">5:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-322" data-t="322">mostly about paper Bitcoin. It was mostly about,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-327" data-t="327">you know, shit coinery. It was just, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-330" data-t="330">it could have been better. We there was nothing wrong with it. It wasn't it shouldn't be illegal, but we can do better and we should strive to do better.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-338" data-t="338">And it really pains me to say this, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-341" data-t="341">the one thing I did in Vegas</span> <span class="cue" id="t-344" data-t="344">that I thought had a much more optimistic</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-348">5:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-348" data-t="348">and much more,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-349" data-t="349">you know, just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-351" data-t="351">they at least had some standards of what it meant to be a Bitcoiner and that was the spamming Vegas event. You know, they didn't talk about paper Bitcoin. They didn't worship</span> <span class="cue" id="t-360" data-t="360">the government</span> <span class="cue" id="t-361" data-t="361">at spamming Vegas.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-363" data-t="363">They they built with Bitcoin. They spent Bitcoin. And it would have been nice if the Bitcoin conference just had a little bit more</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-370">6:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-370" data-t="370">it would just be nice if the Bitcoin conference had as much integrity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-375" data-t="375">as inscribing Vegas.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-376" data-t="376">And I think that that's not asking too much. I wonder,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-381">6:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-381" data-t="381">do you think that they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-383" data-t="383">put the conference in Vegas just for the sake of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-387" data-t="387">failing all the purity tests? Like, just being</span> <span class="cue" id="t-390" data-t="390">in that city,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-391" data-t="391">period,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-393" data-t="393">means that you've already failed</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-395">6:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-395" data-t="395">all of the purity tests. Yeah. It's Sin city. And we are all we are all sinners in the eyes of the Lord, and we are all shitcoiners,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-405" data-t="405">in the eyes of Satoshi.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-407" data-t="407">And being in Vegas really just drove home that point. If you were if you were excited</span> <span class="cue" id="t-413" data-t="413">to go to Las Vegas</span> <span class="cue" id="t-414" data-t="414">for the Bitcoin conference,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-416" data-t="416">you were already</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-418">6:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-418" data-t="418">a failure of purity tests. The only people who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-422" data-t="422">could actually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-423" data-t="423">pass purity tests, they stay at home, they take no part in Vegas,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-428" data-t="428">and they just criticize it from the sidelines,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-430" data-t="430">and they never ever</span> <span class="cue" id="t-433" data-t="433">make anything, sell anything, produce anything, or build anything</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-437">7:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-437" data-t="437">for the network, for the the community, for the industry,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-443" data-t="443">because they know that they would fail the purity test. And so they are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-446" data-t="446">so pure that they refuse to participate, they refuse to spend, they refuse to build, and they refuse to just be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-454" data-t="454">at all participants in this industry or this, community. That makes sense.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-460" data-t="460">Yeah. Because if if you if you spend Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-463" data-t="463">you fail</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-465">7:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-465" data-t="465">sailors' purity test.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-467" data-t="467">Easiest one to easiest one</span> <span class="cue" id="t-470" data-t="470">easiest one to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-472" data-t="472">to not fail is sailors' purity test,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-475">7:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-475" data-t="475">and some people still do it. It's an interesting strategy. Yeah. If you don't if you don't have any skin in the game, there's no way to,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-483">8:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-483" data-t="483">to fail the purity test at all. Yeah. I mean, if you come into Bitcoin the right way</span> <span class="cue" id="t-487" data-t="487">and you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-489" data-t="489">DCA</span> <span class="cue" id="t-490" data-t="490">through Swan Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-491" data-t="491">they don't have a sell button,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-493" data-t="493">you withdraw into cold storage,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-495">8:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-495" data-t="495">You've never learned how to sell. You've never learned how to spend your Bitcoin. You're just buying it, having zero temptation to sell and pulling it straight into your cold card or your hardware wallet. You don't even</span> <span class="cue" id="t-507" data-t="507">you don't even consolidate your UTXOs because that is still a risk of failing a purity test if you spend your Bitcoin to consolidate your UTXOs. If you don't do it right, you fail the purity test right there. So it's so easy. It's just so easy for to diligently</span> <span class="cue" id="t-522" data-t="522">just get just buy a savings plan through a company like Swan and never sell your Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-526" data-t="526">Yet so many people continue</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-529">8:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-529" data-t="529">to fail and they continue to get cocky. Very interesting. Well, yeah. I mean, the the Podkom Super Bowl last year Did you fail any purity tests in Vegas?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-538" data-t="538">What's that?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-539">8:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-539" data-t="539">Did you fail any purity tests</span> <span class="cue" id="t-542" data-t="542">during this trip in Vegas?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-543">9:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-543" data-t="543">I know I sure did, but I, you know, I don't wanna dox your your purity test failures if you did. Well, I think I think going to the conference just period is a failure of the purity test. So for that, we went to inscribe in Vegas. That was a failure</span> <span class="cue" id="t-559" data-t="559">in purity test.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-561" data-t="561">We didn't we didn't spit in Peter Schiff's face. Trace Mayer spoke at her event. That was a failing of a purity test.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-569">9:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-569" data-t="569">Caitlin Long was also a failure of a purity test.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-572">9:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-572" data-t="572">Why was that? I've never heard that. Because she because she's, trying to open a stablecoin bank. Well, I didn't realize that doing stuff with stablecoins is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-582" data-t="582">against the purity test. It it seems like most of these guys issuing the purity test are pretty big fans of the stablecoins.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-588" data-t="588">That's surprising.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-590">9:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-590" data-t="590">There there's definitely a a schism,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-593" data-t="593">an autism schism,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-595" data-t="595">about stablecoins</span> <span class="cue" id="t-596" data-t="596">in the in the purity test,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-599" data-t="599">space. But you're right. A lot of people do not consider that, especially especially if you use Tether on Tron. Especially if you worked with, Peter Thiel in the past,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-608">10:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-608" data-t="608">you're probably gonna like Stablecoins. You're gonna like Stablecoins,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-611">10:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-611" data-t="611">KYC,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-612" data-t="612">any sort of data collection,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-615" data-t="615">mechanism</span> <span class="cue" id="t-617" data-t="617">that makes it easier for the deep state to to collect information on people.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-621">10:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-621" data-t="621">Mhmm. Using credit cards on your website</span> <span class="cue" id="t-623" data-t="623">for your Bitcoin course?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-625">10:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-625" data-t="625">Yeah. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-627">10:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-627" data-t="627">Stuff like that. I mean, that that's gonna be an interesting one to watch is is when the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-633" data-t="633">the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-635" data-t="635">Bitcoin course offers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-637" data-t="637">started accepting stable coins. Yeah. Vegas was interesting. I I had a pretty good time. I had a good time hanging out, with the Beagle writers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-645" data-t="645">Good time hanging out with you. Good time hanging out with Maggie Morris. Good time hang hanging out with Ginger b Stiffen.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-651">10:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-651" data-t="651">Oh, hey. Ginger b Stiffen is hot, by the way. I think everybody saw Ginger b Stiffen this weekend. Maybe they didn't know it was her, but they knew that they saw</span> <span class="cue" id="t-660" data-t="660">pretty hot chick with a pretty hot ass. I mean, with all due respect to Ginger.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-665">11:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-665" data-t="665">Yeah. Yeah. I think you're being strictly professional,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-669" data-t="669">on that one, or I hope so. You you can comment on, your coworker's ass and and be strictly professional, but you have to do it in kind of a classy classy way. You know what I mean? Ginger works on that ass, hard every day at the gym. You can tell. It's, proof of work.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-687">11:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-687" data-t="687">It's never it's never wrong to acknowledge proof of work.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-691">11:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-691" data-t="691">You can see it in her writing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-693" data-t="693">when you're reading her articles. You're like, wow. Yeah. Ginger works on that app.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-700">11:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-700" data-t="700">It was great to meet Maggie.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-702" data-t="702">Maggie Morris, crypto crypto Epstein. She was great.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-706" data-t="706">She tagged along with us,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-708" data-t="708">all over Vegas. She was, I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-711" data-t="711">she was calling out fads. She was telling she was calling people out on their bullshit. She was calling people out on their,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-717" data-t="717">their style and attire.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-720">12:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-720" data-t="720">You may have heard her scream embrace the game theory multiple times throughout the conference.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-726" data-t="726">She got Dennis Porter's attention. She definitely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-729" data-t="729">you know, I I thought Dennis Porter was a pretty</span> <span class="cue" id="t-732" data-t="732">progressive,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-733" data-t="733">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-734" data-t="734">type of guy, but he did not seem to like</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-738">12:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-738" data-t="738">Maggie Morris when she was being too loud</span> <span class="cue" id="t-741" data-t="741">during the Bitcoin podcast segment</span> <span class="cue" id="t-743" data-t="743">of his interview. But I don't know. It was a great time to be with everybody. We saw a lot more. Who else did we hang out with? Fundamentals,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-751" data-t="751">Ghost of Shadrach.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-753" data-t="753">Shadrach, I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-755" data-t="755">OG,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-755">12:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" data-t="755">Bitcoin bugle, non KYC cigarette smoker.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-759" data-t="759">Definitely, like, enjoyed hanging out with Shad.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-763">12:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-763" data-t="763">Hung out with a lot of people. Hung out with all the people that showed up to her event. Hung out with a lot of, you know, Beagle fans, and that that was a good time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-771" data-t="771">And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-772">12:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-772" data-t="772">great to see Evan Kalupis.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-774" data-t="774">He's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-775" data-t="775">really enjoyed hanging out with Evan. Adam Adam Samecca was dressed I mean, he was dressed immaculately.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-781" data-t="781">Orange tie,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-784" data-t="784">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-785" data-t="785">the blue blocker glasses.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-787">13:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-787" data-t="787">I mean, this guy could not be more of a consummate professional. And man, let me tell you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-792" data-t="792">he has,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-794" data-t="794">he's he's working on he's he's collaborating big time with Steak and Shake. I mean, Adam is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-800" data-t="800">and he expressed this to us in person. He's really working hard to make Maxi Madness next year,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-806" data-t="806">he wants to be PodCon approved</span> <span class="cue" id="t-808" data-t="808">and I'm telling you if anybody</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-811">13:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-811" data-t="811">is right in the blueprint for how to go</span> <span class="cue" id="t-815" data-t="815">from</span> <span class="cue" data-t="815">Midwest well, you know, little small Midwest meetup party type guy to a Maxi Madness Podkoff</span> <span class="cue" id="t-822" data-t="822">participant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-823" data-t="823">top, you know, top 16 seed. It's Adam Semeka.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-827" data-t="827">Absolutely just crushing it right now. You know, good to see Tatum. It was great to see Tatum Tatum. And I I heard</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-835">13:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-835" data-t="835">rumors</span> <span class="cue" id="t-836" data-t="836">that Tatum recorded a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-839" data-t="839">another episode of his podcast. So he's back on the podcast train after we had just talked to him last week. And his first guest,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-846" data-t="846">American fucking Huddl. This guy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-849" data-t="849">this guy gets the top</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-851">14:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-851" data-t="851">podcast interviews in his sleep. See, that was probably a mistake on his part</span> <span class="cue" id="t-856" data-t="856">to have Huddl as his first guest. You know, one of the things we were coaching him on is how,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-862" data-t="862">you know, having somebody on your podcast can be like a first date.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-866" data-t="866">And when we were talking to him,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-869" data-t="869">it sounded like he was interested in, finding a girlfriend. But based on that, it didn't really seem like it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-876" data-t="876">I know Crypto Mags really wanted to go on his podcast. She's pretty hot. And, Yeah. I I actually ran into,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-883">14:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-883" data-t="883">Tatum and Crypto Mags walking together</span> <span class="cue" id="t-886" data-t="886">out of the Venetian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-888" data-t="888">on Thursday,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-889" data-t="889">you know, through those one of those long hallways and gave those guys a high five.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-894" data-t="894">Yeah. Crypto Mags was hot, and let me tell you, she looked great walking next to Tatum. Tatum's like she was so tall. He's he's so handsome with his with his, his bulletproof vest. Man, just crushing it. Absolutely.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-909">15:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-909" data-t="909">One of the notable people that we didn't see was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-912" data-t="912">Green Candle.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-914" data-t="914">Do you notice that? We didn't ever see him.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-917">15:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-917" data-t="917">That's true. And one of his buddies from Tampa, a guy with a really, really beautiful mullet,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-924" data-t="924">or</span> <span class="cue" data-t="924">Tampa, Bitcoin meetup, Jersey, everywhere I saw him. He,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-929" data-t="929">he said that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-931" data-t="931">that green Brandon from Green Candle,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-934" data-t="934">probably should have participated in the midget wrestling. He would have been a really fierce competitor in that, in that ring. So I don't know what that was supposed to mean, but,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-943">15:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-943" data-t="943">yeah, man. Wish we could have met you and hung out with you, Brandon. I saw that you hung out with TJ Miller, though, so that was a pretty dope interview. Interesting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-952">15:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-952" data-t="952">Yeah. I think our event went pretty well.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-955" data-t="955">I was happy with it. I was happy with all the the people that showed up, and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-961" data-t="961">it was great to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-962" data-t="962">just meet with a lot of people in person.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-965" data-t="965">And a lot of these people we've been com communicating online</span> <span class="cue" id="t-969" data-t="969">with for a while, getting the chance to there there's something special about smoking cigarettes</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-974">16:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-974" data-t="974">with people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-976" data-t="976">in the flesh.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-977">16:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-977" data-t="977">It's, Shambles. Shambles.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-979" data-t="979">Got to meet Shambles. He's as autistic as I ever imagined as well. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-984">16:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-984" data-t="984">Tell me about Shambles. What's his deal?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-987">16:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-987" data-t="987">Shambles,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-988" data-t="988">I think he knows,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-991" data-t="991">fundamentals of some of those guys through PubKey.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-994" data-t="994">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-995" data-t="995">Shambles has been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-997" data-t="997">he's been a fan of ours,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-999">16:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-999" data-t="999">of the podcast for a while now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1002" data-t="1002">And I heard I heard that he was in the stands. I think they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1005" data-t="1005">I think they brought him on in the stage for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1008" data-t="1008">it was either trivia or to get beat up by one of the midget wrestlers, like, or be beat over the head with, like, a trash can.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1016" data-t="1016">But I I didn't I wasn't sure which one was shambles, but then I met him on the way out.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1021" data-t="1021">And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1022">17:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1022" data-t="1022">he said he just said, Hey. It was just, like, kind of like the same interaction I had with a lot of guys for these. Just, like, Hey, I'm so and so from Twitter or so and so from Noster.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1031" data-t="1031">And it's, like, Oh, it's great to put</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1033" data-t="1033">a name to a face,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1035" data-t="1035">and see and see those guys. So it was cool. We got we also saw Ben Jusman.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1039" data-t="1039">Ben Jusman was, you know, when he walks in, it's like a celebrity, especially when he walks in with, Skyler with the cool Bitcoin American flag hats. Those guys look like they're it looks like they're, like, part of Barstool and they're coming in to, like, throw the party.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1053">17:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1053" data-t="1053">Mhmm. Yeah. It was cool seeing Ben.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1057" data-t="1057">Yeah. I was pretty impressed with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1059" data-t="1059">Maggie's commitment to journalism throughout the week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1063" data-t="1063">I was impressed with your commitment to journalism throughout the week. We were all running around without any sleep. We were all tired. We were all,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1071" data-t="1071">just running off coffee and and cigarettes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1074" data-t="1074">the whole time.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1075">17:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1075" data-t="1075">The thing about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1077" data-t="1077">that people have to understand is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1080" data-t="1080">about these events is you're at this you're at PodCon Super Bowl. There's a lot going on at PodCon Super Bowl. There's not a lot of time. It only happens once a year.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1091" data-t="1091">So you gotta really try to to get as much in. You're not gonna have the opportunity to get all of Bitcoin's biggest influencers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1100" data-t="1100">in one place at one time,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1104" data-t="1104">I think at any other event throughout the year.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1107">18:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1107" data-t="1107">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1108" data-t="1108">so you just gotta</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1109" data-t="1109">you just gotta go, go, go</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1111" data-t="1111">the whole time. There's there's no time for rest.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1115" data-t="1115">There's no time to not have a cigarette in your mouth.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1119" data-t="1119">And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1121">18:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1121" data-t="1121">I think we accomplished a lot. We accomplished quite a bit. But there was there's been a lot of controversy. It's it's been interesting to to look at the controversy on Twitter. I know we talked about it a little bit earlier about these these individuals that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1135" data-t="1135">you know, keep themselves pure by not participating.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1139" data-t="1139">What are your thoughts on the on the controversy?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1142">19:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1142" data-t="1142">I I'm surprised by it, personally. Not surprised. I'm certainly not surprised. Every year, you've got</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1148" data-t="1148">the, you know, the the critics who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1152" data-t="1152">they refuse to go. Like, it was a this year was a really easy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1157" data-t="1157">easy one to stay away from and easy one to be a critic of. You could just say, like you said, like, doc doctor Jack Crews and some of these others,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1164" data-t="1164">they're like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1165" data-t="1165">Vegas is the most Fiat city. Vegas is the most degenerate city. I would never go to such a place.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1171">19:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1171" data-t="1171">The electromagnetic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1172" data-t="1172">protection,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1174" data-t="1174">is terrible. In a city like Vegas, it could burn your thyroid out and make you more susceptible to a tallow gut. You know, there's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1182" data-t="1182">all sorts, you know, there's all sorts of temptations.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1185" data-t="1185">And I think and listen. This is maybe a little bit of a hot take, but I'm gonna wind this back a little bit. I I said at the beginning that I learned a lot of things while I was in Vegas. One of the things I learned really had nothing to do with Vegas until I thought about it a little more deeply, but I I I was looking through the timeline</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1200" data-t="1200">on Friday,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1202">20:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1202" data-t="1202">and all the controversy was about Glenn Greenwald.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1205" data-t="1205">And so I I looked up what the controversy was about, and I found out there was a video</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1210" data-t="1210">that somebody had released about Glenn Greenwald, and he had actually retweeted himself and then explained later. But it was this video, Glenn Greenwald is he's mostly naked except for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1222" data-t="1222">a a schoolgirl skirt</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1225" data-t="1225">and a little, like, bib with a Palestinian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1227" data-t="1227">flag on it. And he's on his knees.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1230">20:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1230" data-t="1230">And for the it looks like he's with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1233" data-t="1233">perhaps, like, a a Brazilian sex worker,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1236" data-t="1236">and there's drugs involved. And he's worshiping</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1239" data-t="1239">this giant black man this giant black foot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1242" data-t="1242">He's just worshiping it and smooching it and and kissing the toes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1246" data-t="1246">And then he bends over and he he he gets fucked in the ass by this, large Brazilian man.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1252">20:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1252" data-t="1252">And I so I learned that Glenn Glenn Greenwald was gay</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1256" data-t="1256">by watching that video. And I watched it a few other times and I studied it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1260" data-t="1260">and I realized that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1263" data-t="1263">this video was not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1265" data-t="1265">wasn't as wasn't the gayest thing I've ever seen. Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1268" data-t="1268">Pleditor and Matthew Crater and these other critics, they are gayer than Glenn Greenwald.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1275">21:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1275" data-t="1275">And I think that there's a lot of, like, these purity test</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1280" data-t="1280">enforcers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1281" data-t="1281">And if you if you really look into them and you listen to their voice on their video podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1287" data-t="1287">about Bitcoin or you just follow their their content, you can tell that, at least from my perspective, there's they just seem like latent homosexuals.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1295" data-t="1295">They sound like they're gay. They just have these really weird quirks and they're obsessed with purity, like like, these closeted these closeted gay feds.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1304" data-t="1304">And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1306">21:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1306" data-t="1306">whether or not they're really working for the federal government, they just seem like gay feds and they seem like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1312" data-t="1312">they don't wanna go to Vegas, so there's too much temptation. They don't wanna be outed. They don't want to get caught having sex with other gay feds. And it's just too much of a temptation for them. So they it's it's smarter for them to sit back</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1325" data-t="1325">and and and be critical from the outside looking in.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1329" data-t="1329">But that cattiness,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1330" data-t="1330">that really that that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1332" data-t="1332">signature</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1333">22:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1333" data-t="1333">gay,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1334" data-t="1334">symbol that cattiness</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1336" data-t="1336">that they have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1337" data-t="1337">really comes out when they're jealous. They wanna be there having butt sex with other gay feds, but they can't because it's too dangerous. There's too much surveillance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1344" data-t="1344">There's just too much of a chance they would get caught in a situation like that, like Glenn Greenwald did.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1351" data-t="1351">And so they stay away. So I think that I think it's just</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1355">22:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1355" data-t="1355">gay men get very, very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1357" data-t="1357">jealous and very catty. And I think that's what we're seeing. It's like a a latent homosexuality</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1362" data-t="1362">of these gay feds who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1364" data-t="1364">it's almost like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1366" data-t="1366">to have this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1367" data-t="1367">fiat</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1369">22:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1369" data-t="1369">shit coin conference is, like, the trade off</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1372" data-t="1372">to repel all the gay feds who would normally encircle and ensnare the Bitcoin conference. They ran free and wild in Miami.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1380" data-t="1380">It was a little bit different in Nashville because they had to blend in with the Cowboys, but in Vegas, it was just it was almost like a force field repelling them out of there. Why do you think they're afraid to come out as being gay? Is there too much homophobia</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1393">23:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1393" data-t="1393">in Bitcoin?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1396" data-t="1396">Do we need more gay pride in Bitcoin, or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1399" data-t="1399">or is it just they're intimidated by the, like, the hyper,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1405" data-t="1405">heterosexual</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1406" data-t="1406">energy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1407" data-t="1407">that They really David Bailey,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1410">23:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1410" data-t="1410">put off?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1411">23:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1411" data-t="1411">I think it's a combination. I think some of them really exploit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1415" data-t="1415">the traditional conservative family values that a lot of Bitcoiners like Adam Samecca, he's like, I will come to Vegas, but I will not bring my family here. I don't want my my kids to be exposed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1426" data-t="1426">to a place like Fremont Street, and I wish it could it would be in a city that I could bring my family to, which is understandable.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1434" data-t="1434">So I think they don't wanna get outed in that sense. But I think, yeah, I think being it's very easy for them to criticize Sailor from afar.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1441" data-t="1441">But I think if you put somebody like Matthew Crowder</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1444" data-t="1444">who, you know I mean, he used to work with Peter Thiel at the gay libertarian hedge fund. Like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1450">24:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1450" data-t="1450">do you think he's the only non gay libertarian at this hedge fund? I don't know. Maybe he was. I have no proof. I'm just speculating.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1457" data-t="1457">But you put, like, Crowder or Pledeter or somebody in the same room with sailors, the the man they criticize, so Viameli, on Twitter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1464" data-t="1464">and I think that that gay energy is just gonna suck them in. It's almost gonna be like a magnet, and it's just gonna be impossible for them not to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1472" data-t="1472">to come on sexually to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1474" data-t="1474">such a powerful gay fed that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1477" data-t="1477">if they were in there in person with them. David Bailey, same way. I don't think I don't David Bailey doesn't seem gay to me, but he seems like he's very, very, very tolerant to gay advances. Well, I I think David's,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1489">24:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1489" data-t="1489">perspective on gay advances is he'll he'll</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1492" data-t="1492">entertain him as long as it brings NGU.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1495" data-t="1495">You know what I mean? But, he doesn't come off to me as</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1499" data-t="1499">homosexual</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1500" data-t="1500">at all. He he's one of the more heterosexual</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1502" data-t="1502">people I've ever seen, and I can imagine it's probably intimidating to a lot of these people. Exactly.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1509">25:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1509" data-t="1509">So it's yeah. It's just a very weird energy. I think it's very difficult</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1514" data-t="1514">to maintain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1516" data-t="1516">the aura</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1517" data-t="1517">of the narrative that you've,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1520" data-t="1520">created for yourself online in a place like Las Vegas. I think it's easier in Nashville,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1525" data-t="1525">and I think it's even easier in places like Miami. But I think there's just there's something about Vegas</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1531">25:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1531" data-t="1531">that everybody's just you just have to be too cautious there. Yeah. Well, that's all that's some interesting theories. I don't know if I have a ton of strong opinions on it, but those those are definitely some interesting theories.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1544" data-t="1544">Listener, bear with us. We're I I don't know. I'm pretty tired. I have not recovered,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1550" data-t="1550">from the event.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1551" data-t="1551">Do do you know any good ways to deal with EMFs?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1556" data-t="1556">And how does it detox from them? I have I've told</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1560">26:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1560" data-t="1560">people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1562" data-t="1562">that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1563" data-t="1563">you know, I think it's important to wear,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1567" data-t="1567">what are those called? Those,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1569" data-t="1569">like, Faraday</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1570" data-t="1570">they're Faraday jeans. So you wear Faraday jeans and it</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1575">26:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1575" data-t="1575">keeps, like, your if you've got a Bitcoin wallet or a GrapheneOS</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1579" data-t="1579">phone in your pocket,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1581" data-t="1581">it keeps you from being susceptible to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1583" data-t="1583">you know, EMF</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1585" data-t="1585">weapons or weaponized EMF</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1588" data-t="1588">energy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1589">26:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1589" data-t="1589">It also protects your testicles and your balls from that kind of stuff in case people are trying to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1596" data-t="1596">just trying to sterilize you and steal your Bitcoin at the same time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1602" data-t="1602">A lot of people went down to Vegas. They brought a lot of talo. I mean, talo is a natural</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1607" data-t="1607">EMF protector.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1608" data-t="1608">It's kinda like sunscreen for your skin and hair but protection from EMF energy. However, it was so hot in Vegas and it was like just such a dry heat that the towel just dripped right down your face and it melted right off you. I mean, somebody said they saw,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1623" data-t="1623">you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1625">27:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1625" data-t="1625">seagulls</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1626" data-t="1626">dipping</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1627" data-t="1627">Steak and Shake fries in,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1629" data-t="1629">in Tatum's you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1631" data-t="1631">the the towel dripping down Tatum's face when he's walking down Fremont Street one day. So it was tough. It was it's tough to protect yourself out there. Very interesting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1640">27:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1640" data-t="1640">That that that might explain why so many people look so greasy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1644" data-t="1644">around the continent.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1645">27:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1645" data-t="1645">Yeah. Exactly. It wasn't just it wasn't just,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1649" data-t="1649">ordinals, the inscription,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1651" data-t="1651">event. Like, everybody looked greasy. They had greasy hair, but that was their tallow melting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1656" data-t="1656">But I you know, listen, at the end of the day, you if you don't wanna get a sunburn,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1661" data-t="1661">don't eat a bunch of seed oils and then go walk it in your bathing suit through Saudi Arabia. If you don't want to get,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1668" data-t="1668">EMF damage, don't go to a place like Las Vegas. Doctor Jack Cruz, he's just like an abstinence first approach here.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1675">27:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1675" data-t="1675">He's already fried his his,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1678" data-t="1678">you know, his thyroid enough being in the hospital in Central America.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1683" data-t="1683">Why why risk it further going to Vegas? Yep. Well,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1687">28:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1687" data-t="1687">today is the first day. We're recording June 1, first day of compliance pride month.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1693" data-t="1693">Big month.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1694" data-t="1694">Compliance was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1695" data-t="1695">a big theme at the conference as it always is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1699" data-t="1699">There were a lot of compliance professionals.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1703" data-t="1703">I actually met the,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1705">28:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1705" data-t="1705">I think that he said he was the head of compliance at Block, came to, satirize the system.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1713">28:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1713" data-t="1713">So he would have known he would have known,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1716" data-t="1716">Mike Brock that would have worked with him at Block.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1720">28:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1720" data-t="1720">Highly likely.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1721">28:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1721" data-t="1721">Mike Brock was apparently in Vegas at the conference. I we did not have the privilege of of running into him.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1728" data-t="1728">He was probably</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1729" data-t="1729">he probably people have the whale passes, general passes. I think he had the very sophisticated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1734" data-t="1734">person pass,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1736" data-t="1736">so he was probably hanging out with other very sophisticated people.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1742" data-t="1742">One of the other issues in the controversy I think we before we go to another topic that we should address here, I wanna get your thoughts on this is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1750">29:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1750" data-t="1750">people like Dieter and Pleditor,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1752" data-t="1752">they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1753" data-t="1753">were very quick to criticize Ross's speech, Ross Ulbricht. So obviously, this was Ross Ulbricht's first</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1760" data-t="1760">conference that he's been free.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1762" data-t="1762">They talked about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1764" data-t="1764">freeing Ross at last year's conference, and this time now he is free. So the you know, it came to</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1769">29:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1769" data-t="1769">fruition. It was really nice to see him there, see him talk about freedom.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1774" data-t="1774">But, you know, people like Dieter and Plutator and others are calling him a shitcoiner and he hasn't even announced a shitcoin. They just they're just saying that he has</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1783" data-t="1783">big shitcoin or energy. And I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1787" data-t="1787">there there must be a conversation to be had around that because it's it's very it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1792" data-t="1792">some people are very shocked that somebody would have such a critical</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1795" data-t="1795">opinion about Ross. Yeah. I don't</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1798">29:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1798" data-t="1798">I I mean, I I've heard this criticism of him before, and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1803" data-t="1803">it seems like it's kinda centered around his speech. He he mentioned,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1807" data-t="1807">something about being interested in all of these cryptocurrency technologies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1812" data-t="1812">having not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1813" data-t="1813">gotten the, I don't think he's gotten the the purity test training</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1819" data-t="1819">yet.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1820">30:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1820" data-t="1820">He missed out on that for the last few years. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1823" data-t="1823">I think part of the reason why he's kind of agnostic or or interested in these technologies is because some of the biggest supporters of him,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1831" data-t="1831">predominantly financially, were the shitcoiners. People like Roger Veer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1835" data-t="1835">when he was in prison.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1838" data-t="1838">And it's it's kinda hard, you know, when you're in prison, you know, You're being influenced by the people that are supporting you, trying to get you out. You're kind of in a desperate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1847" data-t="1847">situation.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1848">30:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1848" data-t="1848">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1849" data-t="1849">you know, there's no narrative on how you shouldn't spend your Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1853" data-t="1853">being presented in Bitcoin. So you shouldn't spend your Bitcoin on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1857" data-t="1857">promoting Ross.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1859" data-t="1859">So, you know, I think if there's any reason why you're still interested in Bitcoin, it's probably because of, you know, David Bailey have been promoting them so much with his,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1867" data-t="1867">quote, unquote, shitcoin</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1869">31:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1869" data-t="1869">conference.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1870">31:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1870" data-t="1870">Right. People</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1872" data-t="1872">some people are surprised, and I think this I think this may sum up some of the controversy as well. It's the people who are on the front lines</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1882" data-t="1882">of the battle against the state</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1885" data-t="1885">and separating money from state and actually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1888" data-t="1888">fighting that battle instead of just LARPing about it online,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1892" data-t="1892">when one of those people get gets hurt or gets, you know, pinched by the state, they end up in jail, they end up getting caught,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1900">31:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1900" data-t="1900">They when they when they are eventually freed, they're going to remember the people who fought the hardest, the people who were standing next to them fighting the state and trying to separate money from state, and the people who fought next to them and didn't leave them behind</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1914" data-t="1914">when the state,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1915" data-t="1915">was able to, you know, ensnare them or or encircle them and take away their freedom.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1921" data-t="1921">And people get surprised when people that fought these</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1925" data-t="1925">hard battles together and stuck together and didn't leave each other behind when they when they have each other's backs in controversial moments.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1933" data-t="1933">And they wonder why they don't</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1937">32:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1937" data-t="1937">instead</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1938" data-t="1938">abandon the people who fought with them and fought for them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1941" data-t="1941">to choose their, you know, their purity test</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1944" data-t="1944">group group chat on Twitter. You know? And I think it's I think it's fairly obvious that the people who are actually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1950" data-t="1950">in the arena fighting and battling the state are gonna always stick together</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1954" data-t="1954">even if they fail each other's purity tests because you don't have time for pure you if you're really battling the state and you're and you're not just a LARP, you don't have time for purity tests.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1964">32:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1964" data-t="1964">And just having a purity test means you're probably not actually doing anything</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1969" data-t="1969">of any impact of doing anything meaningful</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1973" data-t="1973">to advance your cause and fight the state at all. Yeah. It's just it's kind of like an interesting</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1978">32:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1978" data-t="1978">thing where,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1980" data-t="1980">you know, if if you're in the profession of trying to persuade people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1985" data-t="1985">which I I'm personally not,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1987" data-t="1987">but it like, I think a lot of these guys, they they they care about public perception.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1991" data-t="1991">That's why they're arguing so hard on Twitter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1995" data-t="1995">and are always being Karens in people's responses.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1999">33:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1999" data-t="1999">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2000" data-t="2000">you know, if you care about public perception,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2002" data-t="2002">it's it's hard to win people over to your side when you're yelling at them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2008" data-t="2008">for not being pure enough.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2010">33:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2010" data-t="2010">And it kinda makes it a little more way. There's no purity test in foxholes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2016" data-t="2016">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2018" data-t="2018">nobody wants</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2020" data-t="2020">to nobody wants to try to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2023" data-t="2023">live up to the purity test standards</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2026" data-t="2026">of people who</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2028">33:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2028" data-t="2028">don't have their back, people who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2031" data-t="2031">will never</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2032" data-t="2032">support support you know, if things go wrong, these people will never support you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2036" data-t="2036">They will abandon you and isolate you and attack you at the earliest convenience.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2043" data-t="2043">You don't want to fight the state</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2045" data-t="2045">with people like Pleditor and Matthew Crowder because they, a, aren't fighting the state, and, b,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2052">34:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2052" data-t="2052">they would</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2053" data-t="2053">they would throw you under the bus</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2056" data-t="2056">to the state in a heartbeat</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2058" data-t="2058">to marginally benefit themselves and make sure that their follower count on x or whatever platform goes up</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2066" data-t="2066">and charge you money for it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2068" data-t="2068">these people will never ever help you with anything. They will only</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2073">34:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2073" data-t="2073">serve to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2075" data-t="2075">make you, like, the exit liquidity to increase their reputation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2078" data-t="2078">the moment they have the chance. Mhmm. That's why they're spooks. That's what spooks do. They may not be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2085" data-t="2085">on the payroll of the CIA or the FBI,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2089" data-t="2089">but the outcome</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2090" data-t="2090">of interacting with them or doing anything invested with them,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2095">34:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2095" data-t="2095">time or energy, is the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2097" data-t="2097">same.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2098" data-t="2098">It's the same as as partnering with spooks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2101" data-t="2101">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2102" data-t="2102">especially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2103" data-t="2103">the fact that they're so they're so critical of how their</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2107">35:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2107" data-t="2107">narrative and framing and perspective</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2109" data-t="2109">is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2111" data-t="2111">reflected back at them from,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2113">35:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2113" data-t="2113">the the industry. It's all very interesting. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2117" data-t="2117">I'm glad those guys don't go to the conference. They'd be really gay if they did. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2123">35:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2123" data-t="2123">That would be Honestly, yeah. The I would say that the only thing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2127" data-t="2127">that could possibly make the Bitcoin conference worse than it already is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2131" data-t="2131">is if people like Plattator came. That would make it worse.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2134" data-t="2134">If Matthew Kratt or Plattator</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2136" data-t="2136">and some of these other guys,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2139" data-t="2139">came to the Bitcoin conference, it would be worse. That's the only way it could be worse.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2143">35:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2143" data-t="2143">Yep. I was really happy. I brought my special underwear with me so I didn't get a boner when I when I saw Dennis Porter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2149" data-t="2149">I was,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2150">35:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2150" data-t="2150">I wore that too, but it didn't work. It did not work. I still got a boner.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2155">35:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2155" data-t="2155">Yeah. And one of the complaints that I heard from a lot of women running around the conference was that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2161" data-t="2161">they felt uncomfortable because Dennis was there, and so all the men were running around with boners.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2166">36:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2166" data-t="2166">It just felt kinda weird. Yeah. They said they didn't. They knew that the men were not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2172" data-t="2172">trying to be aggressive, but it's just once they saw Dennis Porter and got boners, everything got uncomfortable.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2178" data-t="2178">It was nobody's fault but Dennis'.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2180" data-t="2180">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2182" data-t="2182">you know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2183" data-t="2183">If I if I was a mild</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2185">36:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2185" data-t="2185">if I was a mildly attractive woman and I saw a man running around with a boner and it wasn't because of me, I'd probably be offended too.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2192">36:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2192" data-t="2192">Right. You know?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2194" data-t="2194">Yeah. I I I heard one I was kind of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2197" data-t="2197">kinda overhearing some conversations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2200" data-t="2200">between other people in the expo hall, and there was, like, a boy a man and a woman. It could have been husband and wife, boyfriend and girlfriend. I don't know. But they were arguing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2208" data-t="2208">And she was telling them, like, she that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2211" data-t="2211">she didn't want a Dennis Porter boner. She wanted a love boner. She wanted her husband to have a boner because he loved her and thought she was attractive, not because she saw Dennis Porter.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2220">37:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2220" data-t="2220">And I I think I could probably</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2222" data-t="2222">I think I could probably empathise with that. You know? You want your you want your partner to be in love with you, not just</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2228">37:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2228" data-t="2228">erect because they saw Dennis Porter. Totally. This is the reason why they're calling Ross a shitcoiner is because he Justin Son gave him a banana. Duh. Yeah. I mean, would would you pick a banana from Justin Son if he offered you a banana?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2241">37:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2241" data-t="2241">Well, it's a $6,000,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2242" data-t="2242">banana.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2243" data-t="2243">That's the that's the thing. That's a $6,000,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2246" data-t="2246">banana with duct tape on it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2248">37:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2248" data-t="2248">But, you know, just refuse it, personally.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2252">37:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2252" data-t="2252">I don't want this I don't want a dirty, stinky banana in my hotel room going rotten. It would it would be terrible.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2258">37:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2258" data-t="2258">No. I don't want that. I mean, if I brought that home, my my my wife would look at me and call me a retard,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2264" data-t="2264">and she'd be right.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2266">37:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2266" data-t="2266">I'd I wouldn't take the banana. There's no way. I don't think why I don't think Ross's wife is I think he's probably got another six months before she's allowed to call him a retard again. Yeah. Probably gotta give him a year.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2277">37:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2277" data-t="2277">She's just so happy he's home. She she's probably just like, yeah. You gotta keep the banana in the garage. Like, we're not sure if he's in the house.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2285">38:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2285" data-t="2285">Yeah. Keep the banana</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2287" data-t="2287">in the garage or keep it in your man cave at the basement</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2290" data-t="2290">upstairs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2292" data-t="2292">We're not we're not, you know, I decorated.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2294" data-t="2294">We're we're you don't have a good taste yet. Mhmm. What a funny,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2299">38:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2299" data-t="2299">funny situation. What a funny reason to be upset.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2303">38:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2303" data-t="2303">Well, there's another thing is everybody is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2306" data-t="2306">people want to be the people who get credit for calling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2310" data-t="2310">Ross being a shit coiner when he find inevitably does it. So Dieter and these guys are like, see, I called this. I said it before he even got out that he would become a shit coiner, and they just wanna be right. That's really all it is. So you know who I met who was fun meeting?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2326">38:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2326" data-t="2326">Asahana Gold.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2328">38:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2328" data-t="2328">Oh, yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2330">38:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2330" data-t="2330">How was that? It was good. It was funny.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2334" data-t="2334">I, you know, I wanted to size him up because I wanted to I wanted to see how he would,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2339" data-t="2339">how I thought he would do it in a fight against Shinobi.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2342" data-t="2342">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2343" data-t="2343">I think it'd be a pretty fair fight. I think Shinobi's got a little bit of reach and and weight on him, but he seems pretty scrappy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2351" data-t="2351">He seems You made</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2353">39:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2353" data-t="2353">a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2354" data-t="2354">good point, though,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2355" data-t="2355">that Shinobi has been training and watching anime and samurai movies.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2360" data-t="2360">So he's like, Shinobi's not coming into this fight</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2364" data-t="2364">just flailing arms and no technique. Shinobi's coming in with nunchucks, sais. He's gonna have those, like, throwing ninja throwing stars.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2373" data-t="2373">Asahana Gold is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2375">39:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2375" data-t="2375">gonna have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2376" data-t="2376">to get in close and do, like, a wrestler takedown and and kinda keep Shinobi</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2381" data-t="2381">from being able to use his reach and his samurai training from watching anime</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2385">39:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2385" data-t="2385">to be able to take him down. I wouldn't wanna fight Shinobi because, you know, you you try to hit him and he just Naruto</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2392" data-t="2392">runs around circles around you in the ring. Like, I Yeah. Like, I've been told by people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2399" data-t="2399">at the Chicago bit devs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2402" data-t="2402">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2403" data-t="2403">he doesn't even own a car. He just Naruto runs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2406" data-t="2406">around the city,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2408">40:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2408" data-t="2408">and that's how he gets, from place to place.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2411" data-t="2411">It I I heard he doesn't even go on airplanes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2413" data-t="2413">Like, he just Naruto runs.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2416">40:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2416" data-t="2416">Yeah. I've heard that I've heard that in the summertime, Shinobi will run Naruto run down the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2422" data-t="2422">the the Lake Michigan, like, beach.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2425" data-t="2425">And, like, the the wind that he creates from his speed is so like, that's what cools down the beachgoers and kind of gives waves to the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2432" data-t="2432">to the people kinda out in the water. It's like it's it's almost like he's a public good. Like, Chicago</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2438" data-t="2438">needs shinobi to neruda run-in the summer down the beach.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2443">40:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2443" data-t="2443">I didn't ask Asahana if he's got any, you know, secret skill sets like that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2449" data-t="2449">He he is a pretty talented artist, but I I just don't know how that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2453" data-t="2453">transfers into,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2454">40:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2454" data-t="2454">you know, the fighting arena. You know what I mean? Hell, yeah. Well, somebody who I ran into, which was really a pleasure as well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2462" data-t="2462">was the Canadian Dennis Porter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2464" data-t="2464">Brad Mills.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2466" data-t="2466">I I walked up to I walked up to Brad, and he was talking to Brecky. And Brecky was just about to sell his giant Bitcoin rock</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2473" data-t="2473">that he carved. He's really good sculpture, by the way,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2478" data-t="2478">and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2480">41:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2480" data-t="2480">I told Brad, I said, Hey, Canada needs you right now. You You need to be orange pill and the politicians are What are you doing here in Las Vegas?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2488" data-t="2488">And he gave me a big hug and we took a selfie together. But, yeah, Brad Mills is great. And Brad Mills told us he wants to be on the podcast, and he gave me his phone number. So I'm going to text him every single day and ask him to be on this podcast until he comes on.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2502">41:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2502" data-t="2502">Great.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2504" data-t="2504">Well, that'd be an interesting interview. Yeah. I mean, it was all it was an interesting week. I'd to be honest, I'm glad it's over.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2511" data-t="2511">I'm tired. I need some rest.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2514" data-t="2514">I'm glad</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2515" data-t="2515">I'm glad it is over. It was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2518" data-t="2518">it was quite the spectacle to witness.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2520">42:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2520" data-t="2520">It always is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2522" data-t="2522">It's always</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2524" data-t="2524">it's the it's the PodCom Super Bowl. It's the the biggest spectacle,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2528">42:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2528" data-t="2528">in It's a freak show. It's a freak show. You know what?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2532" data-t="2532">Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2534" data-t="2534">ever gets boring,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2535" data-t="2535">it's done. It's over. It's cooked.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2538" data-t="2538">It's captured. If Bitcoin ossifies, it becomes bore. If the culture ossifies or the protocol ossifies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2544" data-t="2544">it is toast. It is captured. As long as Bitcoin</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2547">42:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2547" data-t="2547">remains retarded,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2549" data-t="2549">as long as Bitcoin remains a freak show, as long as the Bitcoin commerce remains an absolute goon spectacle,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2556" data-t="2556">Bitcoin has already, you know, Bitcoin will continue to already have won.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2561" data-t="2561">The the minute that stops,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2563" data-t="2563">it's over. So I hope that the next Bitcoin Conference is more autistic, more retarded and more of a spectacle</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2570">42:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2570" data-t="2570">than this year was because that's that means it is still healthy and strong. Well, I think we're committed to making more of a spectacle next year. The the nice thing Yeah. The the next PodCon Super Bowl is gonna be in Vegas.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2582" data-t="2582">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2585" data-t="2585">so we kinda scoped it out. We we know what's going on. We know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2588" data-t="2588">where the things are.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2590" data-t="2590">And I think it's it's gonna be even better next year. I'm looking forward to it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2596" data-t="2596">But, yeah, anyways, I wanna go through the booths, and then I wanna go to sleep.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2600">43:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2600" data-t="2600">Preach. We sold some T shirts at the event. That was cool.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2605" data-t="2605">But if you wanna get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2607" data-t="2607">Beagle T shirts, go to orangelabel.co.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2612" data-t="2612">Yeah. First boost, late stage HODL, 10,000 sass. Is apparently I forgot to boost the last episode. I'm such an idiot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2619" data-t="2619">I can't wait to see how big, fake, and gay the conference is. I hope your live event is big, real, and awesome.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2627" data-t="2627">It's proof I'm an idiot because I won't be there to smoke things with you.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2632">43:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2632" data-t="2632">I had a zen this past weekend and felt</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2635" data-t="2635">it felt real fake and gay. Well, yeah, zens are pretty fake and gay.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2639" data-t="2639">You know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2641" data-t="2641">one of the things I'm pretty committed to late stage Huddl is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2645" data-t="2645">getting around more, doing more events, not just around the conference, around the country. So we've been brainstorming ideas on that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2654" data-t="2654">I'd like to do a couple events, before the end of the year. We'll we'll see if we can pull it off or not because it's we got a lot of going on in this operation. There's a lot of moving pieces,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2664">44:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2664" data-t="2664">a lot of things to be doing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2667" data-t="2667">And, unfortunately,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2669" data-t="2669">traveling to these events takes away from our ability to, you know, be able to do all those things all the time. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2676" data-t="2676">there will be opportunities to smoke cigarettes with this in the future. The conference wasn't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2681" data-t="2681">as gay and fake as it could have been,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2684" data-t="2684">because Matthew Crowder wasn't there.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2688">44:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2688" data-t="2688">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2691" data-t="2691">our event was pretty</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2693" data-t="2693">pretty awesome. It was a good time. I I think it was the only the only event</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2698" data-t="2698">in Bitcoin that had an emphasis on smoking cigarettes ever. The first No. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely, it was. And everybody was pumped about it. They wanted to smoke cigs. I bummed out a lot of cigarettes, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2709" data-t="2709">one of the nice things is a lot of people brought their own.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2712" data-t="2712">And, that just showed</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2714">45:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2714" data-t="2714">general commitment</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2715" data-t="2715">to their own personal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2717" data-t="2717">success and and well-being, and that that was cool to see. Oh, yeah. The next one is,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2723">45:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2723" data-t="2723">7777</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2726" data-t="2726">stats from Open Mic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2727" data-t="2727">from Toonster.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2729" data-t="2729">Bugle Mile High Club, riding high post Vegas,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2733" data-t="2733">listening to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2734" data-t="2734">the podcast on the way home from Vegas. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2739">45:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2739" data-t="2739">I I I I remember running into Open Mic, but I don't think we had much time to talk. Did you have much time to talk with him?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2745">45:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2745" data-t="2745">Yeah. I talked with open mic for a little bit, and, that was really cool. That was that was one of the highlights of of the trip</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2752" data-t="2752">was my brief interaction,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2754" data-t="2754">with him. Unfortunately,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2756" data-t="2756">it was right before the event started, so I was a little bit overwhelmed with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2762" data-t="2762">all the stuff going on, all the people there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2766" data-t="2766">So I didn't get as much time to talk to him as as I would have liked to, but,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2771">46:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2771" data-t="2771">I hope to spend a lot of time with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2773" data-t="2773">Open Mike in the future. Really, really, really cool dude.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2778" data-t="2778">Really enjoyed meeting him.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2781" data-t="2781">Looking forward to talking to him more in the future.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2783" data-t="2783">Cool dude. Like what he's building. Like what he's about.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2788" data-t="2788">I I heard the Las Vegas event was really good. So I heard he he put on a really good,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2795">46:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2795" data-t="2795">event,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2796" data-t="2796">and that's awesome to hear. Well, thank you for the boost, Mike.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2799" data-t="2799">Jason c</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2800" data-t="2800">2,100 says, dear Ron and Dick, I'm Gen x and need to confess that I've become</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2806" data-t="2806">very attracted to Bitcoin treasury companies. I can't help myself,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2811" data-t="2811">and it's eating</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2812">46:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2812" data-t="2812">into my 40 HPW and SAS stack. Please send advice after your stay in Vegas. After you slay in Vegas</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2820">46:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2820" data-t="2820">Oh. Which we did. We slayed them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2823" data-t="2823">Listen, Jason. You're not alone. There's a lot of people, especially boomers. So you're maybe you're like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2830" data-t="2830">one of those old souls. You should you have the boomer soul instead of that Gen x soul, but you're very attracted to Bitcoin Treasure. Listen. It's it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2839" data-t="2839">talk to fundamentals about it. Fundamentals had a great</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2842" data-t="2842">video.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2844" data-t="2844">He was featured on Simply Bitcoin,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2847">47:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2847" data-t="2847">Beyond Bitcoin with Oceans</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2849" data-t="2849">a few weeks ago.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2850" data-t="2850">And he talks about this. He talks about how he doesn't think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2854" data-t="2854">it doesn't impress fundamentals. He doesn't think it's that clever. He thinks it's a good use of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2859" data-t="2859">money and capital by a corporation, but he just doesn't think it's that clever. And I think once you listen to fundamentals talk about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2867" data-t="2867">how unimpressed he is with Bitcoin treasury companies,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2870">47:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2870" data-t="2870">I think you'll be like, oh shit, like that's not nearly as cool as I thought and now I have something to say when people try to talk about treasury companies where I could be like, it's not that it's not that clever. And once you once you could talk to somebody else and say</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2883" data-t="2883">why you think it's boring and and you kinda ruined their,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2888" data-t="2888">new excitement</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2889" data-t="2889">about a new Bitcoin treasury company, then you'll you'll feel confident in doing so.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2894" data-t="2894">I think you just need to have the confidence to say you think it's gay. That's somebody's personal advice.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2899">48:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2899" data-t="2899">I I would just encourage you to go read Ayn Rand.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2903" data-t="2903">Go read Atlas Shrugged.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2905" data-t="2905">That'll that'll probably,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2907" data-t="2907">make you less interested,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2911" data-t="2911">in the phenomenon. It it's just a trend.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2914" data-t="2914">And I can understand Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2916">48:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2916" data-t="2916">Following the trends can seem excited</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2919" data-t="2919">exciting. It can seem like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2922" data-t="2922">you know, your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2923" data-t="2923">your experience on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2925" data-t="2925">like, I I would like to hear more about what the attraction is. Like, what what gets you all excited about it?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2932" data-t="2932">Is it being a part of the trend?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2935">48:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2935" data-t="2935">Is it,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2937">48:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2937" data-t="2937">just I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2939" data-t="2939">I think a good summary,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2941" data-t="2941">now that you've put it in that perspective,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2943" data-t="2943">is that Bitcoin treasury companies are just broccoli haircuts for boomers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2948" data-t="2948">It's just a broccoli haircut for a boomer. You know? Like, they think it makes them cool. They're gonna show up. They're like, yo, fam. No cap. Bitcoin treasury company just dropped, and I just bought a bunch of shares. It's up</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2960" data-t="2960">20 of 27%</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2961">49:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2961" data-t="2961">in the past six hours. I'm a genius.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2965" data-t="2965">And once that once that trend kinda dies out,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2968" data-t="2968">it you'll just people will just look back on it. Like, we're gonna look back on broccoli haircuts and be like, what was that idiot thinking? Yeah. Yeah. Whatever the boomers are doing, you don't wanna be doing it. You know what I mean?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2979">49:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2979" data-t="2979">You wanna be doing the opposite of what the boomers do</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2982" data-t="2982">did. Unless unless you're, like, just a very, like, nihilistic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2986" data-t="2986">person that just, like, doesn't care about creating a better future for your children,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2992" data-t="2992">then you can follow what the boomers are doing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2995" data-t="2995">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2996" data-t="2996">if you genuinely care about yourself, you care about the future, and you don't wanna just be a complete loser, like, avoid what</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3003">50:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3003" data-t="3003">the avoid what the boomers are doing.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3006">50:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3006" data-t="3006">Yeah. Boomers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3008" data-t="3008">boomers are the ones going to the the nude beaches</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3012" data-t="3012">and buying Bitcoin treasury companies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3015" data-t="3015">destroying the real estate market,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3018" data-t="3018">gambling away their Social Security at the at the casino. Just don't just do the opposite of what they do. Follow millennials like Dennis Porter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3028" data-t="3028">like Bitcoin podcasters.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3029">50:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3029" data-t="3029">Like, they kinda have a better better grasp on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3033" data-t="3033">what the signal is and culture.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3036" data-t="3036">But, man, yeah, back on back on the chain with Jason and fundamentals, the fish and Bitcoin podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3042" data-t="3042">kinda hybrid. Go check that out.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3045" data-t="3045">Thank you, Jason c.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3047" data-t="3047">The,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3048">50:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3048" data-t="3048">the next boost is from Blizza,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3050" data-t="3050">the man, the the legend. I think I I think if we look back, I think Blizzah has boosted every single episode at this point.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3058" data-t="3058">He boosts us 1,010</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3059" data-t="3059">stats. The new regiment Rod is on really seems to be working and helping his voice sound less raspy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3065" data-t="3065">Thank you, Blizzah. It has been a lot of work,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3069" data-t="3069">and it has been a lot of practice, and it's been inconsistent at times.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3074">51:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3074" data-t="3074">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3075" data-t="3075">I'm glad that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3077" data-t="3077">the results are are bearing fruit.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3081">51:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3081" data-t="3081">I agree. I I think it's a serious improvement for sure. Well, thanks for the boost, Bliza. Next one,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3087" data-t="3087">doesn't look like there's, any comment. Five hundred sats from Turkey. Thank you, Turkey. I'll take the next one up to you. Bob John, 416</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3096" data-t="3096">sats says, I couldn't stand the previous voice in your thanks for smoking less cigs.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3102">51:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3102" data-t="3102">Well, I didn't smoke less cigs. I did not smoke less cigs. I just I'm I'm doing something about my voice. In fact, I smoked more cigs in the past week than I have probably</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3111">51:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3111" data-t="3111">in any previous week in a long time. But, glad you like the improvement. Oh, it is? Because what happens when you're running around in Vegas and you're surrounded by all these stupid boomers, you just get you you gotta compensate for just all the negative energy that you're around by smoking more cigarettes. You know? Negative boomer energy</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3130">52:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3130" data-t="3130">and unmitigated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3131" data-t="3131">EMP energy. It's just a lot of bad energies coming at you. Smoking cigarettes just really helps with that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3139" data-t="3139">The last I think this is the last no. It's not the last one. But the next one is from BTC onboard,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3144" data-t="3144">L enhancer CTV 300 sats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3147" data-t="3147">Two thumbs up and two lightning emojis. Thank you, BTC onboard. Looks like these are going in different orders.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3154">52:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3154" data-t="3154">Next one I got is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3156" data-t="3156">oh, wait.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3158" data-t="3158">Justin Bianchi.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3160">52:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3160" data-t="3160">Those are just those are that's just a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3162" data-t="3162">a double boost.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3164">52:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3164" data-t="3164">Oh, I see. Next one is Larry Yoshi</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3168" data-t="3168">Finkamoto, a 100 sentences. I'm a millennial who identifies as a boomer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3173" data-t="3173">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3174" data-t="3174">That's a rough</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3175" data-t="3175">spot to be in, dude. I'm</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3178" data-t="3178">I'm not even gonna make fun of you for that, because it just seems like really, you know, just like awful existence, and I'm really sorry that's happening to you. Yeah. If there's anything that we can do to help you out of that funk,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3189">53:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3189" data-t="3189">maybe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3190" data-t="3190">re or just recharge your node or restart your node, maybe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3195" data-t="3195">restart your bid acts, try to get you back on the right path.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3198" data-t="3198">Let us know.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3200">53:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3200" data-t="3200">Yeah. If you need tech support for my wife,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3203" data-t="3203">need to learn how to use your iPhone,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3206" data-t="3206">you need somebody to talk you off the cliff, you know, if you sat through a timeshare presentation,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3212">53:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3212" data-t="3212">we're here for you. Yeah. If you sold all your fold stock for a timeshare in, Deerfield Beach, Florida, you know, and you're feeling regret about that, let us know. We'll try to help you out here. The next one? Alright. Here we go. I knew we were gonna have to get into this eventually.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3229" data-t="3229">Pies got a little bit a little bit defensive,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3233" data-t="3233">and he's he's holding us accountable.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3235" data-t="3235">Supplies hit us with a 100 sats. Don't be shitting on fish.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3239" data-t="3239">Holding you. Even as I I held you accountable too. That was all you. Even as hip hop head, I followed fish years ago, bumping tribe called quest on my on my boombox, eat mushrooms, smoke a weed, shout out to fundamentals,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3253" data-t="3253">mushroom, mushroom, mushroom emoji,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3255">54:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3255" data-t="3255">flex, flex, flex emoji.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3257" data-t="3257">Thank you for holding me accountable, Pies.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3260" data-t="3260">Pies hit us with the next, two,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3263" data-t="3263">boosts as well for 100 sats. You'll need to come out to the East Coast and smoke tobacco, mix weed and blunts with us. Mushroom, mushroom, mushroom. Flex, flex, flex, cigarette, cigarette, emoji.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3274" data-t="3274">Pies, I don't want to speak too soon,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3277" data-t="3277">but I do want to tell you</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3279">54:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3279" data-t="3279">that we will be coming out to the East Coast relatively soon to be determined or to be announced. We'll be doing some shows and if you don't show up</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3289" data-t="3289">we're gonna kick your ass. Alright?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3291" data-t="3291">You gotta come out. We're gonna show up all all the fucking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3295" data-t="3295">Shadrach fundamentals,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3296" data-t="3296">me, Jason,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3298" data-t="3298">probably get Rob Hamilton involved. We'll probably get whoever we need to get involved. And we're gonna come, we're gonna kick your ass if you don't come party with us.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3306">55:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3306" data-t="3306">So</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3306">remember that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3308" data-t="3308">I'm holding you accountable.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3310" data-t="3310">Last boost from Pies, a 100 stats,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3312" data-t="3312">fucking retarded boomers. There we go. Let's send it on a good note. Fuck the retarded boomers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3317" data-t="3317">Finger middle finger emoji, mushroom, mushroom, mushroom, flex, flex, flex emoji. Thank you so much, Pies. Well, yeah. Thank you everybody for the boost. I I am so excited</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3327">55:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3327" data-t="3327">to go to sleep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3330" data-t="3330">That was a long week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3332" data-t="3332">That was a long week. Recharge your podcast headphones.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3335">55:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3335" data-t="3335">What's that? Time to recharge your headphones. Everybody's gotta take some time to recharge their podcast headphones.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3342">55:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3342" data-t="3342">Yeah. Well, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3345" data-t="3345">what I've learned from doing the the podcast Super Bowl over the years</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3350" data-t="3350">is the following week, you know, is about scrolling Twitter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3354" data-t="3354">looking at what everybody's mad about.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3358" data-t="3358">You know, when you go there,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3360" data-t="3360">there's not really a whole lot of time to sit and listen to people talk on stage.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3364">56:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3364" data-t="3364">And they'll be the same things that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3366" data-t="3366">you already heard them all say on the podcast. You're you're going and you're talking to the podcasters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3372" data-t="3372">there in person. You're talking to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3374" data-t="3374">the people making the news in person. You're digging into the stories.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3378" data-t="3378">But if there's anything interesting, people on Twitter are probably mad about it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3382" data-t="3382">Then we'll curate it for you so you can go back and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3385">56:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3385" data-t="3385">Yes. Talk.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3387">56:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3387" data-t="3387">So thank you for that. Yeah. Apparently, for me,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3390" data-t="3390">getting back from the conference,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3393" data-t="3393">is about making Matthew Crater cry. There's a lot of people in my DMs this weekend</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3398" data-t="3398">demanding that I apologize for making Matthew Crater cry,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3402" data-t="3402">but I refuse.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3403" data-t="3403">I think there's no crying in Bitcoin podcasts.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3406">56:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3406" data-t="3406">If you can't take it, don't dish it. But once once again, if you came out to satirize the system, you saw us in Vegas, you smoked cigarettes with a thank you barn miner for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3416" data-t="3416">the precision screwdriver,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3418" data-t="3418">the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3419" data-t="3419">and the the forty hours per week Zippo and putting that to good use.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3426" data-t="3426">Thank you to everybody who came out. Thank you for Mandrake for giving us the baklava.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3431" data-t="3431">Thank you to</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3432">57:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3432" data-t="3432">Uncoverable Misfits for,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3435" data-t="3435">for supporting us and Zeus Wallet.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3438" data-t="3438">Thank you to all the podcasters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3439" data-t="3439">and podcast listeners who showed up.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3443" data-t="3443">And, we're we're doing some next one's gonna be even bigger and better, so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3448" data-t="3448">look out for that. Thank you everybody for tuning in to this edition of Uno Weekly, and we'll catch you on the next show.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3458">57:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3458" data-t="3458">It's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3467">57:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3467" data-t="3467">for yourself if you choose,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3469" data-t="3469">but if you don't, you will likely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3471" data-t="3471">lose. In a society who's cheap for you is to comply, it's always dangerous to choose to defy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3477" data-t="3477">There's certainty and stability that comes with trust, but learning to believe in yourself requires you to adjust.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3487" data-t="3487">Why limit yourself? Believe in silly fantasies. Returning nothing is wrong. It's not a good strategy. Almost everything you see is made by spooks. The world is on the verge.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3536">58:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3536" data-t="3536">System only works with your consent. They'll give you enough to try and keep you content.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3541" data-t="3541">Politicians will try and tell you what you wanna hear. And if that doesn't work, they will try to use fear.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3549" data-t="3549">It's not fun living in the matrix,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3552" data-t="3552">but you can learn to see how they play tricks. Self respect is the facts, they pull the lies off the TV. You must break your chains in order to be free.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3560" data-t="3560">Look people in the eye when you speak.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3562" data-t="3562">The future doesn't have to look bleak.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3593">59:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3593" data-t="3593">But it requires action.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3600" data-t="3600">Servitude is not exciting because it means self denial. You can't buy satisfaction in the store aisle. Altruism is a tool to pull the wool over your eyes, rejecting it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3620" data-t="3620">You must do it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3635" data-t="3635">yourself back? Death is only getting nearer.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3640">1:00:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3640" data-t="3640">Don't get down, folks. Not all is lost inside you is the solution.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3644" data-t="3644">Have a little faith in yourself. You can use your brain.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3648" data-t="3648">Making memes and telling the truth will keep you sane.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3653" data-t="3653">The problem lies inside each and every one of you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3658" data-t="3658">And inside</span></span></p>