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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-0">0:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-0" data-t="0">This is Richard Greaser coming to you from the Beagle newsroom in a secret location in New York City.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-6" data-t="6">We all know Canada is ran by a bunch of nicotine deficient losers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-11" data-t="11">The country is on the verge of collapse following Canada's loss to The United States in hockey.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-17" data-t="17">The morale is so low that individuals like Sly Gooba are begging for Donald Trump to annex the collapsing country and force them to use Tethr.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-26" data-t="26">There's a man, though, who couldn't be bothered by all the bearish sentiment.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-30" data-t="30">Joining us tonight is a former HR representative for Marlborough, noncompliant English teacher</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-36">0:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-36" data-t="36">and touring podcast guest,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-39" data-t="39">organizing Bitcoin meetups unfazed by cold weather, paddle boarding and advising the Canadian government on economics in the city of Ottawa</span> <span class="cue" id="t-48" data-t="48">is the broken ruler.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-50" data-t="50">While some may call him delusional,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-52" data-t="52">others see him as an optimist who will never let the communist looters get him down.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-58" data-t="58">Rocking a beard and a clean haircut, you can see lasers coming out as a</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-63">1:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-63" data-t="63">out his eyes as he attempts to orange peel government officials.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-67" data-t="67">Welcome to the show, Boomer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-71" data-t="71">Would you prefer us to call you by your Bitcoin name or your Fiat name? You can call me anything you want, Richard.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-78">1:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-78" data-t="78">Like, it's just an honor to be here.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-81" data-t="81">And and, like, that introduction, like, that tears in my eyes. Like, I I I've never felt so honored in my life. And most of that is actually true. What do you mean most of it? I'm a journalist.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-92" data-t="92">Clearly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-93" data-t="93">No, man. Like, it feels good. Like, it feels good to be here,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-98" data-t="98">but, I I'm not exactly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-100" data-t="100">advising many people in the government over here. Nobody listens to me. I'm I'm a public servant in the same way that, like, the old lady at the DMV is a public servant.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-110">1:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-110" data-t="110">I just, do in my do my time, and I check out check and I check out. Your,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-116">1:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-116" data-t="116">you know, your your day job is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-119" data-t="119">to analyze</span> <span class="cue" id="t-120" data-t="120">them, like but your your job is to listen to macro podcasts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-124" data-t="124">Is that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-125" data-t="125">how you would categorize it?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-127">2:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-127" data-t="127">I think everybody's job is to listen to macro pack podcasts.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-132">2:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-132" data-t="132">But, but, yes, I I do listen to a lot of macro podcasts while I'm at You just happen to get you and you're so let's be that clear. You believe it is everybody's duty or everybody's job to listen to macro podcast. You just happen</span> <span class="cue" id="t-144" data-t="144">to get paid by taxpayer dollars to do it.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-148">2:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-148" data-t="148">I can I can say that that is sometimes the case?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-152" data-t="152">Okay. You know? If if you're not listening to if you're not listening to macro podcasts or Bitcoin podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-157" data-t="157">at any moment of the day that any spare five minutes, then you're just short your forty hours. Right? You gotta get as many</span> <span class="cue" id="t-165" data-t="165">macro podcasts out there as possible. You gotta get as much Bitcoin podcasts out in there as as possible.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-170" data-t="170">Right? If you got a meeting with HR on the 4th Floor and you're on the 8th Floor</span> <span class="cue" id="t-175" data-t="175">and it takes you five minutes to get down there, then you better have those headphones ready, and you better plug that plug those bad boys in. Like, that's five minutes you can listen to Larry LeParque.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-184">3:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-184" data-t="184">Right. But if you have to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-187" data-t="187">shovel</span> <span class="cue" id="t-188" data-t="188">your driveway,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-190" data-t="190">you know, before you go to your job listening to macro podcasts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-194" data-t="194">that's a great time to listen to macro podcasts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-199" data-t="199">And. Yeah. And so this is, you know, we we've had a lot of guests.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-203">3:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-203" data-t="203">You know, I think you're our tenth,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-206" data-t="206">on this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-208" data-t="208">on this podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-209" data-t="209">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-211" data-t="211">a lot of them,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-212" data-t="212">they come out here and they they say, of course, I listen to forty hours of we per week of Bitcoin podcasts. I, you know, I I totally do.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-221">3:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-221" data-t="221">I but they don't. I mean, most of them haven't even listened to the podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-225" data-t="225">the week before</span> <span class="cue" id="t-226" data-t="226">to, you know, prepare. They didn't even take</span> <span class="cue" id="t-230" data-t="230">coming on our podcast seriously enough to listen to the episode right before it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-235" data-t="235">to see what it was all about.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-237" data-t="237">So it's very unlikely to me that they listen to forty hours per week like they say.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-242">4:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-242" data-t="242">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-243" data-t="243">you are the first guest we've had.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-246" data-t="246">That is not the case. You the proof of work shows</span> <span class="cue" id="t-249" data-t="249">you you posted the other day on Twitter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-253" data-t="253">looking for, like, an index of every Bitcoin podcast that exists because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-258" data-t="258">all the ones that you could find on your own, I mean, you're already somebody who knows how to to find a good podcast and all the ones that you could find on your own. You ran out. You needed more.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-268">4:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-268" data-t="268">So, you know, you had your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-271" data-t="271">it was sixty hours per week in your Twitter handle for a while before you changed it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-276" data-t="276">You know what you're talking about? You how</span> <span class="cue" id="t-279" data-t="279">how what advice</span> <span class="cue" id="t-281" data-t="281">would you give to somebody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-283" data-t="283">for how they can think about optimizing their lives</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-287">4:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-287" data-t="287">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-288" data-t="288">be more efficient with their time so they can listen to more hours of Bitcoin podcasts?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-293">4:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-293" data-t="293">Well, let me first give a shout out to Pies. Because, like, I'm I'm I'm big league Bitcoin podcast listener, but Pies, he might actually be like the Jordan.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-304" data-t="304">You know? Like, if I can be the Pippen</span> <span class="cue" id="t-307" data-t="307">to his Jordan of listening to to Bitcoin podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-311" data-t="311">then I think that's that's that's an honor because, you know, Pippen's a hall of famer too. Mhmm.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-316" data-t="316">You gotta you gotta get every minute you possibly can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-320" data-t="320">to to listen to this stuff. Right? If you wanna do forty hours, forty hours is pretty easy, but sixty hours,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-326">5:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-326" data-t="326">first of all, you gotta be doing 1.75</span> <span class="cue" id="t-328" data-t="328">speed right off the bat.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-330">5:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-330" data-t="330">Like, if you're any slower than one Not not everybody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-334" data-t="334">is able to listen to Preston Pysh</span> <span class="cue" id="t-338" data-t="338">or Larry Lapard, like you mentioned,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-341" data-t="341">or,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-342" data-t="342">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-343" data-t="343">Nick Boccia.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-344">5:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-344" data-t="344">I mean, that's some high level signal, and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-349" data-t="349">not everybody is able to really absorb it at 1.75</span> <span class="cue" id="t-352" data-t="352">speed like you that's something you have to like it's like you don't go</span> <span class="cue" id="t-356" data-t="356">surfing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-358" data-t="358">you know, if you don't know how to swim. It's like you're gonna drown. Yeah. So you have to you have to train. You have to take your mind and your body, really. It's a physical. It's not just a mental. It is a a connection</span> <span class="cue" id="t-370" data-t="370">healthy enough to be able to really take in that much signal</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-375">6:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-375" data-t="375">in that, you know, with that speed.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-377">6:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-377" data-t="377">It's also a way of life.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-380" data-t="380">Mhmm. It's it's it's also a way of life. Like, you gotta be a professional,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-384" data-t="384">and you gotta be you gotta be ready to make the sacrifices too. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-388" data-t="388">You know? And and the people around you have to realize it. You know? Like, if your girlfriend doesn't like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-393" data-t="393">you listening to Bitcoin podcast in the car while you're driving to go get the groceries while she's in the passenger seat, well, you gotta leave her home.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-400" data-t="400">Right? Like, that that's prime time. You gotta be ready to go all the time. You have to have a pair of headphones with you everywhere you go. You gotta use the bathroom,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-409">6:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-409" data-t="409">but you gotta listen you gotta go to the bathroom. You got you got it in the morning.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-413" data-t="413">That's like seven minutes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-415" data-t="415">At 1.75</span> <span class="cue" id="t-417" data-t="417">speed,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-418" data-t="418">you got seven minutes. You can you can do a Natalie Brunell news block in ten minutes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-423" data-t="423">at at one x speed. So at 1.75</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-426">7:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-426" data-t="426">speed, you can get that you can get that podcast right off the bat</span> <span class="cue" id="t-431" data-t="431">just while you're having your dump in the morning. You gotta be ready every moment of the day to consume more podcast. And you have to be willing,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-438">7:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-438" data-t="438">you know, if you if you get to Saturday</span> <span class="cue" id="t-441" data-t="441">and you've had a really long week at work, you've been hitting the chin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-445" data-t="445">you've been doing you've been crushing it. But you're a little bit behind under forty hours per week. And if you don't wake up at 6AM when you wanted to sleep in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-455" data-t="455">and, you know, go get a coffee and and start it. Yeah. Start smoking cigarettes at six a. M. So you can get that extra, you know, four or five hours in. So you get your forty hours. You gotta be willing to do that. But like you said, you also have to be like, you have to think of every situation.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-471" data-t="471">What if you just think that you're dropping off, you know, something with your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-476" data-t="476">at your mother in law's house,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-479">7:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-479" data-t="479">for your wife,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-481" data-t="481">and she comes out and she asks you to mow her lawn?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-484" data-t="484">Do you have your headphones? Are you ready in that moment</span> <span class="cue" id="t-487" data-t="487">to put two hours in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-489" data-t="489">ready for, you know, any Bitcoin podcast? You always got You know, because you might if you get in that situation and you're not ready, then you've just wasted two hours. Wasted. Wasted. Wasted.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-499">8:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-499" data-t="499">Now You gotta be ready all the time. You gotta have headphones with you all the time. I keep a I keep a set of headphones in the car,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-506" data-t="506">and I got Bluetooth in my car. I don't need those headphones in my car. But I keep those I keep those headphones in there just in case a situation like that occurs, where I'm somewhere that I'm not home and my favorite</span> <span class="cue" id="t-517" data-t="517">my favorite headphones are at home. Well, I got a backup set</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-521">8:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-521" data-t="521">in the car ready to go. Yeah. Boy, if were you boy, if you just have insomnia one night, then you're laying there, you know, 01:00 in the morning in your in your headphones</span> <span class="cue" id="t-531" data-t="531">that you didn't charge the battery.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-533">8:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-533" data-t="533">So you're not Oh, dude. Screwed. You just gotta lay there and count sheep. Battery? What are you like, I I go wired.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-540" data-t="540">You gotta do wired, man. Like, this is the moneymaker. This is the moneymaker. The head over here, this is my moneymaker.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-546" data-t="546">I I gotta protect that. So I'm not I'm not taking anything to chance with wireless headphones and, like, radiation and all that shit. No. No. No. No. No. Wired headphones only. I think that,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-556">9:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-556" data-t="556">you know, I just my personal opinion is what I try to do is if I'm ever caught lacking, you know, I don't I'm a situation where I should have had my headphones. I should have been ready for fifteen, twenty minutes to listen to a podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-569" data-t="569">I I just I pull out time chain calendar and I just force myself to spend that idle time,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-575" data-t="575">just watching watching the blockchain, watching the the blocks come in, just, you know, watching the rhythm of the network and just trying to use that as a reminder.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-584" data-t="584">Yeah. That's a pro move. No. Pro move.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-587">9:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-587" data-t="587">So on the topics of radiation to your brain,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-591" data-t="591">like, I think this is something a lot of people are concerned about.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-595" data-t="595">In the Bitcoin ecosystem, people care about their health. They smoke cigarettes. They eat raw beef. They,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-603" data-t="603">Sun their balls. They do they yeah. They sun their balls. They Oh, they are. They don't wear sunscreen. Yep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-609" data-t="609">Yeah. They they do all the proper healthy things to be successful,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-614" data-t="614">but that's not always a guarantee</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-616">10:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-616" data-t="616">that you're gonna be okay.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-618" data-t="618">Right? So, like, one of the biggest concerns</span> <span class="cue" id="t-622" data-t="622">myself that I have for my own health is how do you protect yourself against the Jewish</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-628">10:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-628" data-t="628">space lasers? Well, you gotta what color is your roof? If your roof is anything other than blue,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-634" data-t="634">then you're not, you know, or you're not taking it seriously.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-638">10:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-638" data-t="638">So you gotta take it seriously. Well, that's a huge yeah. That's a huge conflict. Families want to they wanna paint their roofs orange. You know, they want people to net out their Bitcoiners, right? That's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-648" data-t="648">true. That, there you go. That's bull can't that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-651" data-t="651">that's a good point that you bring up because how do you maintain OPSEC as a Bitcoiner</span> <span class="cue" id="t-656" data-t="656">If everywhere you go, you have your headphones on or ready to go, that that is it's like, it's like it's like a cop muse is walking somebody's walking around with, you know, whatever. They give away by their their behavior.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-670">11:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-670" data-t="670">Well, there's a few things you can do. There's a few things you can do. You can pretend that you're on the phone. Right? You can turn the volume down a little bit and just start having a conversation with yourself,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-680" data-t="680">and then everyone around you thinks you're talking on the phone.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-683" data-t="683">Right? That's one thing you can do. Or you can just start randomly singing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-687" data-t="687">You know? You just start, like, the start singing the boy's mind, the boy's mind, the boy's mind. You know? Like, people think that you're listening to Brandy and Monica.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-694" data-t="694">You know? Like, that that's what you gotta do. And and then you what you always have to do too, like, every good forty hour a week</span> <span class="cue" id="t-701" data-t="701">Bitcoin listener knows this. You always have a couple of podcasts loaded up that aren't Bitcoin podcasts</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-708">11:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-708" data-t="708">just in case. Mhmm. You know? You you have a Jack Cruz podcast on the go.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-714" data-t="714">Just, you know, you can scroll on there real quick or Joe Rogan one. That's a good one. Yep. I think, you know, that is something I have.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-722">12:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-722" data-t="722">The fountain I've I've I've sent them all kinds of recommendations for how they can improve the podcast listening</span> <span class="cue" id="t-729" data-t="729">experience</span> <span class="cue" id="t-730" data-t="730">because that's important. Right? It's not just about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-733" data-t="733">a platform for the podcasters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-735" data-t="735">to market their podcast. It's about the listening</span> <span class="cue" id="t-739" data-t="739">experience. It is</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-741">12:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-741" data-t="741">a very it it's very similar to which hardware wallet or which multi signature wallet. It's a way of expressing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-750" data-t="750">your, you know, your preferences about Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-754" data-t="754">and to be able, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-756" data-t="756">know, Bitcoin is care about offset. Like, you should be able, like, when I have my custodial lightning wall and open I can press a button and change the setting so you can't see my my balance So somebody can't just look over my shoulder and see wow. This guy's got 20,000 sats just fucking ready for the take in here</span> <span class="cue" id="t-775" data-t="775">so, like, I don't want them to graze over my shoulder and see that I'm listening</span> <span class="cue" id="t-781" data-t="781">to, like, the blue collar Bitcoin podcast or,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-784">13:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-784" data-t="784">you know, green green light candle</span> <span class="cue" id="t-787" data-t="787">podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-788" data-t="788">or, you know, Guy Swan or something. Like, I wanna be able to hit a cloak and make it, like, this guy's listening to Tucker Carlson</span> <span class="cue" id="t-795" data-t="795">or this guy's listening to the progressive Bitcoin or podcast. Like, something like that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-800" data-t="800">Something that's just gonna totally throw them off because, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-804" data-t="804">if you sit next to me on the train every day and you see the podcast I'm listening to, you're gonna you're gonna be able to dissect</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-811">13:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-811" data-t="811">that,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-812">13:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-812" data-t="812">this guy's probably got some point. Yeah. Yep. That's a good point. One that especially that I can you know, I completely agree with that. Like, I really like the high hash rate podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-824" data-t="824">and that's one that I don't want anybody knowing I'm listening to that while I'm at work.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-829">13:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-829" data-t="829">Right? Or right. Like, if you're if you're at family and, like, you know, your father-in-law sees your podcast and sees a big old pot leaf on there. Yeah. A pot leaf and a Bitcoin logo.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-839" data-t="839">Mhmm. Right. They're they're gonna think this motherfucker is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-842" data-t="842">noncompliant.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-843">14:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-843" data-t="843">Yeah. One of my one of my favorite wallet features</span> <span class="cue" id="t-847" data-t="847">is in blue wallet,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-848" data-t="848">and I'm sure other wallets have this, but you can have decoy passwords</span> <span class="cue" id="t-853" data-t="853">so that you can open up a wallet</span> <span class="cue" id="t-856" data-t="856">and show, like, a either low balance or no balance. So, like, say you get wrench attack. Yep. That's the case.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-864" data-t="864">And, like, I think you need the option to do that with fountain,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-870">14:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-870" data-t="870">like, to have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-872" data-t="872">better OPSEC,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-873" data-t="873">essentially, if that makes sense. You have a decoy password</span> <span class="cue" id="t-877" data-t="877">to get into Fountain. Yeah.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-880">14:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-880" data-t="880">I should be able to change the the entire branding of your app. So it just looks like I'm listening to Joe Rogan on my Apple, you know, podcast app. Like, I I don't want them to know I was in the fountain,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-892" data-t="892">that I use fountain. But I think if think about the implications of people knowing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-898" data-t="898">that when you're listening to podcasts, you that you are literally streaming money.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-903" data-t="903">Yeah. You know, from your phone over your Wi Fi, over your data. Like, that they're gonna wanna come</span> <span class="cue" id="t-908" data-t="908">and and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-909" data-t="909">and steal that. Yeah. Yeah.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-912">15:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-912" data-t="912">It's like there's so many examples. So, like, I think it'd be pretty easy to pitch, like, for Oscar Mayer. He's probably thinking about this. He's like, okay.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-921" data-t="921">Wow. Another feature that is expensive to implement that takes a bunch of developer time to do.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-928" data-t="928">You know, I think that you could easily argue for, like, an open SaaS grant or an HRF</span> <span class="cue" id="t-934" data-t="934">grant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-935" data-t="935">to build this because there's women</span> <span class="cue" id="t-937" data-t="937">there there's women in</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-940">15:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-940" data-t="940">Islamic countries where it's illegal to listen to Bitcoin podcasts without your husband's permission without,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-948" data-t="948">essentially, you know, approval.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-951" data-t="951">And and they shouldn't be deprived</span> <span class="cue" id="t-953" data-t="953">of Bitcoin podcasts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-955" data-t="955">in my opinion.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-957" data-t="957">They need</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-958">15:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-958" data-t="958">freedom tools</span> <span class="cue" id="t-960" data-t="960">to be able to listen adversarially.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-962">16:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-962" data-t="962">Yes. Yes. Like, what I wouldn't give to be able to listen to a Bitcoin podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-968" data-t="968">But if somebody saw my phone, they think that I'm listening to NPR.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-972">16:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-972" data-t="972">Mhmm. Oh, yeah. Exactly. You're exactly. You don't wanna be listening to Joe Rogan in Washington, DC or Ottawa either. Right? You wanna be listening to NPR.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-982" data-t="982">NPR. You wanna be listening to John Stewart. Yep. You know, something like that.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-987">16:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-987" data-t="987">Yep. So, like, I agree with you, Richard. You know? Like, it's it's it's it's good to think about those girls in in Afghanistan,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-994">16:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-994" data-t="994">but, you know, I'm worried about me too. Mhmm. Like, I think that I think that this kind of, you know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1001" data-t="1001">we could talk about features all day, but I think it comes down to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1006" data-t="1006">Oscar Mayer and his team at Fountain. Like, I get it. They are building a revolutionary</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1011" data-t="1011">product. They are creating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1013" data-t="1013">one of the most,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1016" data-t="1016">popular,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1017">16:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1017" data-t="1017">you know, apps in the value this new value for value Bitcoin based economy. That's that takes a lot of time. They don't have a lot of employees, so they're doing a lot of work. And I know that they're always fixing bugs because fountain, you know, that's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1031" data-t="1031">if you work at fountain, I can't imagine you'd be doing anything else. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1036" data-t="1036">it I they I don't think maybe they don't have enough time or maybe they've just kind of gotten too it they don't wanna take their work home with, I don't I just don't know if they're listening to forty hours. I don't know if Oscar Mayer is listening to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast per week because I think if he was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1053" data-t="1053">it would</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1055" data-t="1055">it wouldn't the user experience would be much more,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1060">17:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1060" data-t="1060">would be much bigger project. I gotta push back a little bit on on that. Like, I think guys like Oscar Mayer, I think they're heroes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1068" data-t="1068">Like, he's not listening to forty hours say that. I think he's here. Listening to forty hours of podcast. I agree with you. But he's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1075" data-t="1075">building a platform so that I can. You know?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1079" data-t="1079">Where's the Human Rights Foundation,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1082" data-t="1082">you know, helping him out? I think you know, I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1085" data-t="1085">sacrificing for me.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1087">18:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1087" data-t="1087">Mhmm. I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1089" data-t="1089">everybody deserves</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1091" data-t="1091">to be able to listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts per week. And I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1096" data-t="1096">I just would rather live in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1100" data-t="1100">a society that has the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1103" data-t="1103">the time low enough time preference</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1106">18:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1106" data-t="1106">to understand that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1108" data-t="1108">even if somebody who's sacrificing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1110" data-t="1110">everything to build that product for me, like, they should, you know, we should still</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1114" data-t="1114">create the incentives for them to be able to listen to forty hours as well and raise their fame.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1119">18:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1119" data-t="1119">Yep. I agree. You know? And listening to forty hours, even sixty hours, it's low time preference, and it's also a lot like Bitcoin. It's it's capturing stranded energy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1128" data-t="1128">Like, if you wanna get up to the upper echelon, like, Pies if you had Pies on here, like like I said, Pies is the Michael Jordan of listening to the podcast. You know that Pies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1137" data-t="1137">he's capturing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1138" data-t="1138">every last second of his day,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1140" data-t="1140">just like the Bitcoin mining network</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1143" data-t="1143">captures every last</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1145">19:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1145" data-t="1145">electron of waste and stranded energy. Did he,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1149">19:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1149" data-t="1149">you know, one of the themes of this podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1153" data-t="1153">as you know, as a as a long time listener,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1156" data-t="1156">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1157" data-t="1157">we talk a lot about things like regulatory</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1159" data-t="1159">clarity, the right to be compliant,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1162" data-t="1162">the the problems of a noncompliant</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1165">19:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1165" data-t="1165">government.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1167" data-t="1167">And I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1169" data-t="1169">you probably understand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1173" data-t="1173">and come for you come from such a compliant country.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1176" data-t="1176">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1177" data-t="1177">Canadians, they</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1178">19:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1178" data-t="1178">it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1180" data-t="1180">they really value their right to be compliant,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1183" data-t="1183">and they don't want that to be taken away from them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1186" data-t="1186">And so there's a lot of people up there who are very worried that if they get annexed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1192" data-t="1192">by The United States and become the fifty first state,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1195" data-t="1195">that their right of compliance</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1199">19:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1199" data-t="1199">would be, you know, potentially threatened.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1202" data-t="1202">And there's some people who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1204" data-t="1204">they just they want the right to be noncompliant, or at least they want if they're gonna be compliant, if a government is compliant as well.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1213" data-t="1213">Then in The United States,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1215" data-t="1215">we don't have enough of regulatory clarity to know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1218" data-t="1218">if</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1219">20:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1219" data-t="1219">that paradigm exists or what paradigm is coming.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1224" data-t="1224">So is it is it scary to you that you might be absorbed into</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1231" data-t="1231">a political system that lacks</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1234">20:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1234" data-t="1234">regulatory clarity. And how do you feel about the regulatory clarity in Canada? You know, when you guys asked me to come on here, obviously, I took it at the as an honor that it is, and I kinda knew that this was going to come up. You know? I'm, you know, I'm one of your big Canadian fans, and, you know, I interact with you guys all the time. And I know that's in the news right now. Americans are you know, they're they're very eager to know what Canadians think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1259" data-t="1259">about becoming potentially the fifty first state. So I so I knew this was gonna come up.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1264" data-t="1264">Now the compliance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1266" data-t="1266">compliance is always an issue. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1269" data-t="1269">People should be allowed to comply if they choose to comply.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1273" data-t="1273">Right?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1274">21:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1274" data-t="1274">And and I and I think it's it's going to be hard</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1277" data-t="1277">for some Canadians if it so happens that we become the fifty first state. I think we're going many of the Canadians will go the way of the California</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1286" data-t="1286">style of compliance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1287" data-t="1287">or the New York state level of compliance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1290" data-t="1290">I don't think everybody in Canada is ready for the Texas level of compliance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1296" data-t="1296">You know? There might be some some out there. You know? Like, in Alberta, there might be some people that that are ready for that, but not everybody. Steve Barber. Steve Barber is excited about that. He's ready. He's ready. Like, he's he's ready. Like,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1308">21:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1308" data-t="1308">you know, he's been counting his coal. You know? Like, he he's he's ready.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1312">21:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1312" data-t="1312">Play lick and plaid. He is ready to live the Dallas Texas life. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, plate</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1319">21:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1319" data-t="1319">yeah. Oh, yeah. Plate already has a spare cast iron</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1324" data-t="1324">pan, like, an even bigger cast iron pan</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1326" data-t="1326">to cook his egg. Oh, yeah. Like Yeah. Tariff free Tariff free. Midwest American steak every day. Cheaper steak. Yeah. Yeah. No tax.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1334" data-t="1334">Like, lowers lower taxes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1337" data-t="1337">Man, it's gonna it's gonna be great for some people.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1339" data-t="1339">Don't. Yeah. I I'm torn with the whole fifty first state thing.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1344">22:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1344" data-t="1344">You know?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1345" data-t="1345">I like Dunkin' Donuts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1347" data-t="1347">and I don't really like Tim Hortons.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1349" data-t="1349">So on that, that's a major plus for me. Like, if I trading out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1354" data-t="1354">Tim Hortons for for for Dunkin',</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1357" data-t="1357">that that's that's that's a win.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1359">22:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1359" data-t="1359">Is that gonna get you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1361" data-t="1361">you know, the Canadian compliant version of death threats</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1365">22:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1365" data-t="1365">for saying that when people in Canada hear that? It might. It might. You know? But sometimes you just gotta put your name on it. You know? You just gotta you gotta own it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1375" data-t="1375">You know, I'm I'm bullish Dunkin' Donuts, and I'm I'm bearish on Tim Hortons.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1380" data-t="1380">You know? There's that, and there there's also</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1383" data-t="1383">you know how hard it is to get Marlboro cigarettes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1385" data-t="1385">in Canada?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1386" data-t="1386">Do you have any idea?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1388">23:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1388" data-t="1388">No. No. No. It's it's really hard. I haven't heard that. It's really, really hard to get Marlboro cigarettes. Even KYC cigarettes do you get up there? We we have players. We got something called players.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1398" data-t="1398">We got something you know, we got we got these Canadian brand cigarettes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1402" data-t="1402">And and our KYC cigarettes have, like, a lot of weird messaging on them,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1408" data-t="1408">you know, on the cigarette themselves. I'm with the American cigarettes, you you have a little bit of messaging on the on the package.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1414" data-t="1414">Well, up here, up here, we have the messaging on the cigarette itself. Interesting. Yeah. And what it It's a big deal. It'll be a big change. It'll be a big change if we go to if we become a part of the states.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1426">23:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1426" data-t="1426">What is the what what are taxes like on cigarettes? And more broadly,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1432" data-t="1432">how what is the situation with people, your your peers right now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1437" data-t="1437">trying to afford taxes in Canada? Are you worried about having to afford taxes in The United States, or would you rather have the tax system of Canada? We're concerned about that.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1446">24:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1446" data-t="1446">You know, we we already are pretty taxed pretty high up here, and and we don't know what's going to happen.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1452" data-t="1452">You know?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1454" data-t="1454">Our dollar is also weak. Right? So, like, we we you know what? Canada doesn't even have a tether.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1460" data-t="1460">The Canadian dollar is not worthy of a tether.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1464">24:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1464" data-t="1464">So we're kinda worried that if we have no They even have they even have some for the European countries,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1469">24:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1469" data-t="1469">but not the Canadian dollar. Yeah. Are we going to have to pay taxes on top of our taxes now?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1475" data-t="1475">Like, are if if we become the fifty first state, are we still going to have to pay Canadian taxes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1480" data-t="1480">and then, like, an extra US tax? People are concerned.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1484">24:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1484" data-t="1484">Do you do you think that it would make it easier for you to get Tether on Tron?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1489">24:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1489" data-t="1489">I hope so.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1490">24:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1490" data-t="1490">I hope so. I think you would be paying your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1494" data-t="1494">US federal government taxes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1497" data-t="1497">and then you would be paying your provincial taxes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1500" data-t="1500">But I don't think you'd be paying</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1502" data-t="1502">Canadian government</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1504">25:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1504" data-t="1504">taxes. And you would and you wouldn't have to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1507" data-t="1507">pay pay any more taxes to the Queen of England. So that we would put a stop to that.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1512">25:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1512" data-t="1512">Yep. But then we'd have to relearn about the, you know, kilometers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1516" data-t="1516">and miles</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1518" data-t="1518">and pounds and kilograms.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1520" data-t="1520">Like, that's gonna take a lot of time. That's a hidden tax. Well, actually, that's that's a great segue because</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1526">25:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1526" data-t="1526">that would be a really good opportunity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1528" data-t="1528">for,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1530" data-t="1530">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1531" data-t="1531">thermodynamically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1532" data-t="1532">sound Canadians, if you wanna call them that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1535" data-t="1535">to maybe they wanted to come to The United States. Maybe they were ready. They want to live in Texas. They now they'll have that opportunity</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1542">25:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1542" data-t="1542">and with that opportunity,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1544" data-t="1544">they will they can come and teach Americans</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1547" data-t="1547">how to use the metric system. We're not gonna stop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1550" data-t="1550">using miles per hour or Fahrenheit,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1554" data-t="1554">But,</span> <span class="cue" data-t="1554">you</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1555">25:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1555" data-t="1555">know, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1557" data-t="1557">weeds becoming legal almost everywhere. Like, people are gonna be able to use the metric system for their drugs or for something that, you know, their beef or something for for Bitcoin. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1569" data-t="1569">you've also done that. You've been an ambassador</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1572" data-t="1572">for the English language,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1574" data-t="1574">and you had an opportunity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1577" data-t="1577">to see what</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1579">26:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1579" data-t="1579">the cigarette industry and what the smoking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1582" data-t="1582">experience was like on the, you know, the eastern culture.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1586">26:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1586" data-t="1586">Yeah. Can you talk more about that experience? Because it's very interesting. It is. Yeah. That's something that I was talking to the guys before we, we started rolling here about how I might be the only guest</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1596" data-t="1596">that the Bitcoin Bugle has ever had that actually worked</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1600" data-t="1600">in a cigarette factory.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1602" data-t="1602">So, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1604" data-t="1604">a while ago now, fifteen years ago, I worked in South Korea in the HR department</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1609" data-t="1609">of, Philip Morris factory.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1612">26:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1612" data-t="1612">So I saw I saw firsthand,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1614" data-t="1614">you know, literally how the, you know, how the sausage is made. I was I was right there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1618" data-t="1618">You know, I was working h HR. Like, I was a diversity hire</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1622" data-t="1622">because they needed to hire a white guy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1624" data-t="1624">So, I was a diversity hire at a South Korean cigarette</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1629" data-t="1629">factory.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1630">27:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1630" data-t="1630">And and and, you know, you realize that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1633" data-t="1633">everywhere you go, people smoke the same. Right? It doesn't matter what color your skin is or what language you speak.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1640" data-t="1640">You smoke one cigarette, one puff at a time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1643" data-t="1643">You know, every everybody lights one up at a time. That's true. And you know what?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1648">27:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1648" data-t="1648">There was very</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1649">27:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1649" data-t="1649">Go ahead. Sorry. There's a handful of people that are super hardcore that smoke multiple cigarettes at a time, and they they tend to be Asian from what I've seen. Well, they go extra sometimes. Right? Yep. You know?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1661">27:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1661" data-t="1661">So say you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1663" data-t="1663">watch it's spelling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1664" data-t="1664">bees or or things like that. You know? It might be the the parents</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1669" data-t="1669">push them a little bit harder. You know? Like It's no it is no secret that</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1674">27:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1674" data-t="1674">Asia, especially East Asia,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1676" data-t="1676">is one of the most productive,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1680" data-t="1680">you know, labor forces, most productive countries, growth, like, their ability to build</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1686" data-t="1686">magnifica magnificent city,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1688" data-t="1688">magnificent cities and monuments.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1691" data-t="1691">And here it takes us like twenty years to build a bridge</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1694">28:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1694" data-t="1694">from, you know, one side of Baltimore to the other.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1697" data-t="1697">And who smokes more cigarette? Who smokes more cigarette there? You see a Chinese person or an Asian person, they're smoking a pack a day.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1703" data-t="1703">And, you know, I just think the correlation,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1706" data-t="1706">is, you know, there between that productivity and that sitter at intake.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1710" data-t="1710">You know, it's it's worth noting.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1713">28:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1713" data-t="1713">Correlation is not causation,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1716" data-t="1716">but it's definitely worth noting. And and I'd like to see, you know, maybe there could be, you know, an open SaaS grant into looking into this. Right. Yeah. That's actually a good point. There's</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1726">28:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1726" data-t="1726">a lot of really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1727" data-t="1727">important,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1729" data-t="1729">things that we talk about on Bitcoin podcasts and a lot of people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1733" data-t="1733">try to kind of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1735" data-t="1735">make something sound more scientific or say that correlation causation whatever,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1739" data-t="1739">but</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1740">28:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1740" data-t="1740">that's, you know, that's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1742" data-t="1742">just it's it's good to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1745" data-t="1745">to talk about things that are worth noting. Yeah. You know, it I I don't have proof, but it's worth noting. Yeah. And that's just what I that's what I think is the best value you get from Bitcoin podcast. So a lot of things that are worth noting and noticing.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1758">29:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1758" data-t="1758">Well, you and you're right. I noticed the same thing. I lived there. Like, I I saw I saw it myself. I saw how much the people smoke there, and I saw how productive they were. And I'm I'm not gonna sit here and say that one led to the other,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1769" data-t="1769">but, there definitely is correlation. But I was really taken aback</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1774" data-t="1774">at the humanity of it. We all smoke cigarettes the same way.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1779" data-t="1779">Right? The end It doesn't matter if you're a billionaire or a pleb. It doesn't matter if you're a billionaire or a pleb. It doesn't matter if you're six feet tall</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1787" data-t="1787">or you're four feet tall.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1788" data-t="1788">We all smoke cigarettes the same way.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1791">29:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1791" data-t="1791">Right. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1792" data-t="1792">not only did you work at a cigarette factory</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1795" data-t="1795">so the culture in a cigarette factory is inherently</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1799" data-t="1799">going to be different than a normie factory,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1802" data-t="1802">but you worked in the HR department. Yeah. And I think if, you know, I don't know what your experience like is like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1809" data-t="1809">in your day to day job now and what the HR department culture is like at your job now,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1816">30:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1816" data-t="1816">But I have a feeling that we're in a smoking culture, in a smoking factory. HR</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1822" data-t="1822">was actually maybe something that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1826" data-t="1826">was a great experience.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1827">30:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1827" data-t="1827">It was a great experience, but I'm I'm gonna be straight up with you, Rod. I'm a man of the people. Right? So while I was working in the HR department, I spent most of my time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1838" data-t="1838">with the with the plebs, with the cigarette smokers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1841" data-t="1841">like, on the factory floor.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1843" data-t="1843">Like, my office</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1845" data-t="1845">was not where the regular HR offices were. My office was literally right next to where the parliament cigarettes were. You, Deb. It's easy.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1854">30:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1854" data-t="1854">I think too many</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1855" data-t="1855">HR people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1857" data-t="1857">they they don't understand that they're basically cops. They are the cops policing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1863" data-t="1863">behavior</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1864" data-t="1864">at work.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1865" data-t="1865">And</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1866">31:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1866" data-t="1866">you think about the problems with our inner cities, it's the cops just show up and shoot people and they don't they don't the good cops when the communities were safe, they were in the communities. They were amongst the people that they were policing. They were learning about their lives and and talking to to families.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1884" data-t="1884">And and and so when there was dispute, it could be easily,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1888" data-t="1888">peacefully,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1890" data-t="1890">and mutually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1891" data-t="1891">beneficial for everybody involved.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1893" data-t="1893">But but now the HR departments, they just sit up in their high offices</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1898">31:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1898" data-t="1898">and isolated from everybody and they find out that you shared an offensive meme and they don't even know that you listen to Bitcoin podcast. They don't understand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1907" data-t="1907">that you, you know, you're on Bitcoin Twitter and that, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1911" data-t="1911">these types of things are just not, you know, offensive because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1914" data-t="1914">we're so much more intellectual</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1916" data-t="1916">than these normies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1918" data-t="1918">and we understand the nuance.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1920">32:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1920" data-t="1920">But they don't know that about us, so we just get fired from work. And it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1925" data-t="1925">it's it causes too many conflicts. It it says order breaks down at work when the HR ladies,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1933">32:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1933" data-t="1933">you know, it's there was too much like cops. It's frustrating because of all the people who have time to put in the forty hours of listening to Bitcoin podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1941" data-t="1941">you'd have to think that the HR ladies are at the top of the list who actually have the time. Mhmm. But they are the ones that are doing it the least. I mean, they probably listen to, like, a Peter McCormick podcast every once in a while, but that's about it. Because they have fiat authority. So why you know, they're not incentivized</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1958">32:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1958" data-t="1958">to listen to or follow an ideology</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1961" data-t="1961">that does not respect fiat authority.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1964">32:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1964" data-t="1964">Yep. I think part of the reason why is there's just not there there's no</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1970" data-t="1970">Bitcoin podcast for HR professionals.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1973" data-t="1973">Right? Like, there's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1974" data-t="1974">a blue collar Bitcoin podcast. There's a blue collar podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1979" data-t="1979">There's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1980" data-t="1980">there's all these different niche</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1983">33:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1983" data-t="1983">podcast, but there's nothing for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1986" data-t="1986">meme policers and and and language policers and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1990" data-t="1990">people that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1991" data-t="1991">yell at you for telling your coworkers that they're hot.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1996">33:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1996" data-t="1996">You know, stupid shit like that. Yeah. There's no there's no podcast for nags. There's no podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2002" data-t="2002">for,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2004" data-t="2004">hall monitors.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2005">33:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2005" data-t="2005">There's no podcast for teachers' pets. You know what I mean? We Yeah. You know who we need we need to get on on this is fundamentals.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2012" data-t="2012">He's making podcasts for everything. Yeah. He's he's how many podcasts does he have going on right now? He can do one more. He can do the Karen Bitcoin podcast.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2021">33:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2021" data-t="2021">Right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you think about it. It's like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2025" data-t="2025">they're just Bitcoin is not something that attracts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2028" data-t="2028">the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2029" data-t="2029">the recessed tattletale</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2031" data-t="2031">or the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2033" data-t="2033">the snitch or,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2035">33:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2035" data-t="2035">you know, like I said, the the hall monitor or the person that raises their hand and reminds the teacher that homework was due after the class is about to end. Those people just think don't they just don't understand Bitcoin. But they but Bitcoin would that they do need it there because people like that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2054" data-t="2054">usually are very worried about being able to afford their taxes. So you would think that they're at least they're gonna come soon. So they're gonna need podcasts. So I think that there is a lot of people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2065" data-t="2065">in Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2067" data-t="2067">who like to they pretend, like I said, they they pretend to listen to forty hours per week. They pretend to be noncompliant. They pretend to be based,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2078" data-t="2078">but they're not. And they constantly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2080" data-t="2080">want to</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2082">34:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2082" data-t="2082">to to tattletale</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2083" data-t="2083">or to, you know, do one of those those actions to snitch on somebody, to tag somebody in a limb, all them as hot mean when you're just, you know, not trying to harass her. You're just trying to express that you think she's hot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2094" data-t="2094">And, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2097" data-t="2097">those people need to make up the podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2099" data-t="2099">for the people who are left behind.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2102">35:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2102" data-t="2102">This is a real opportunity. Like, I hope somebody's listening to this and is thinking to to themselves, like, oh my god. Like, this is it. Like, there's a lot of us that in the Bitcoin community that are are wondering how we can contribute to the Bitcoin community a little bit more. You know? Like, some of us organize meetups and some of us, you know, we we maybe we we we do a podcast or we do TikTok videos.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2123" data-t="2123">But, you know, a guy like me, I'm I'm not that active. You know, I I just I host my meetup. That's about it. I I come on podcast every once in a while. But I'm listening to this, and I'm getting inspired.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2134" data-t="2134">Like, I wanna know the the Bitcoin Tattletale podcast.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2138">35:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2138" data-t="2138">Yeah. Well, here's the thing. You, you know, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2141" data-t="2141">are one of the people who I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2144" data-t="2144">could best articulate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2147" data-t="2147">not the why.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2149" data-t="2149">We we articulate the why you should listen to forty hours, and we give you facts and we and we just point out to you these</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2156" data-t="2156">examples of how forty hours can improve your life. But you</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2160">36:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2160" data-t="2160">can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2162" data-t="2162">demonstrate it. You're you mean, you could be doing your podcast while lifting weights,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2167" data-t="2167">shoveling snow,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2169" data-t="2169">crunching numbers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2171" data-t="2171">mowing the lawn.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2172" data-t="2172">You you can kind of be like that David Goggins who</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2176">36:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2176" data-t="2176">kind of whips people into shape and says, this is how you do it. This is take action. Wake up at 05:00 in the morning and start listening to Bitcoin podcast when you're lifting, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2186" data-t="2186">know, doing deadlifts in your basement.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2188" data-t="2188">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2190" data-t="2190">You can be the yeah. You could be yeah. Do a a a cold plunge. Listen to a Bitcoin podcast. It makes the makes the cold plunge go fast. Yeah. Go by faster. I could do it in Me and pies just like Yeah. Just pushing each other to listen to listen to one more hour. Listen to one more hour.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2207" data-t="2207">That's yeah. That's good. Yeah. Like, you know, you broke your leg. Good. Yeah. I didn't have time to sit in the hospital,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2213" data-t="2213">ER waiting room and listen to Bitcoin podcasts. Yeah.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2216">36:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2216" data-t="2216">So out of curiosity,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2219" data-t="2219">what years were you over in South Korea?</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2223">37:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2223" data-t="2223">The early two thousands</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2225" data-t="2225">to 2011</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2227" data-t="2227">with some time,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2228" data-t="2228">you know, back and forth.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2230" data-t="2230">So in those in those ten, twelve years, like, I spent seven years there. Very cool.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2236">37:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2236" data-t="2236">So you so you were in South Korea potentially when,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2243" data-t="2243">North Koreans started</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2244" data-t="2244">to be OG Bitcoiners</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2246" data-t="2246">around 2011.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2248" data-t="2248">Mhmm. Yeah. Did you could you, yeah, could you ever thought about that? Like, some of the some of the earliest people to to to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2256" data-t="2256">to go on the Bitcoin standard were, you know, just right up the hill for me. Yeah. I never thought about till right now, but that's that's true.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2264">37:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2264" data-t="2264">You know, that that that's completely true.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2267">37:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2267" data-t="2267">So I know there's a tenuous relationship between the West and North Korea and South Korea and North Korea.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2277" data-t="2277">With you you must be very familiar with the South Korean culture. You probably listen to a lot of k pop. Why do you think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2286" data-t="2286">the Western media</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2288" data-t="2288">ecosystem,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2289" data-t="2289">specifically Podkoff,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2291" data-t="2291">has failed to recognize Bitcoin or North Korea</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2295">38:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2295" data-t="2295">as being the first nation state to go on a Bitcoin standard.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2299">38:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2299" data-t="2299">But Podkoff don't do a very good job at diversity, equity, and inclusion.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2305" data-t="2305">You know, the the the they see, oh, Koreans, North Koreans. Oh, so they're gonna dismiss them right away. Polankov,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2311" data-t="2311">we know. Like, they</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2314">38:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2314" data-t="2314">they Are you suggesting they're white, you know, fashion white supremacists</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2319" data-t="2319">or male patriarchy, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2323" data-t="2323">all the stuff that liberals hate? I'm not saying it.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2326">38:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2326" data-t="2326">I'm not saying it, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2328" data-t="2328">correlation, causation,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2330" data-t="2330">there's something there.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2331">38:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2331" data-t="2331">Sure. Okay. So maybe that's why they they neglected North Korea. Right? Do you think that it's do you think it's purely because the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2339" data-t="2339">attractive white American</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2341" data-t="2341">Bitcoin podcasters,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2343" data-t="2343">make the most money? How are the most valuable sponsorships?</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2346">39:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2346" data-t="2346">It's true. Right? I yeah. Maybe. Maybe.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2350" data-t="2350">Right? They get they're going they're going after Robert Breedlove and Preston Pish,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2355">39:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2355" data-t="2355">and they're neglecting, like, you know, the the the North Koreans. That's interesting. I mean, I know that there is, like, this anti Asian bias</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2363" data-t="2363">because of, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2365" data-t="2365">Marathon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2366" data-t="2366">based sponsor a lot of things. So, you know, like Asia, Bitname,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2370" data-t="2370">you know, the Chinese minors,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2372" data-t="2372">like, they they just seem to not like them very much. They're just so they're just kind of, yeah, they're just kind of</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2379">39:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2379" data-t="2379">discriminatory</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2380" data-t="2380">against Asian podcasters.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2382" data-t="2382">It's I mean, even, I mean, who's the who's the jewel? Who's the commander of Bitcoin in Asia right now? It's Dylan LeClaire.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2389" data-t="2389">They put him in a proxy position</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2392" data-t="2392">to kind of be the the orange pill</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2395" data-t="2395">governor</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2395">39:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" data-t="2395">of Japan. Because they didn't even they didn't even let a Japanese person do that. Yep.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2401">40:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2401" data-t="2401">It's it's like the new form of colonialism.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2405" data-t="2405">Like Right.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2406">40:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2406" data-t="2406">Joe Nakamoto</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2407" data-t="2407">is, like, the, you know, the guy who spreads the news in the global South.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2412">40:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2412" data-t="2412">Mhmm.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2414" data-t="2414">Like, we have we do have an Asian Bitcoin podcaster,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2417" data-t="2417">Laura Shin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2419" data-t="2419">and she's just been mocked and ridiculed.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2421">40:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2421" data-t="2421">Exactly. Exactly. Nobody everybody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2425" data-t="2425">finding uses her as a punchline</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2427" data-t="2427">Mhmm. And doesn't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2429" data-t="2429">respect her credentials</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2431">40:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2431" data-t="2431">as, you know, a credentialed journal. Yeah. Like, Michael Saylor's been a big part of that. Like, he was very demeaning to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2438" data-t="2438">her in mansplaining Bitcoin to her.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2442" data-t="2442">Isn't she an Ethereum person too? Yeah. So maybe that's why. You know, like, you have to give minorities a pass. Right? If she's, like, the only Asian Bitcoin podcaster,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2452" data-t="2452">you have to give her a pass.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2454">40:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2454" data-t="2454">Cool. I mean, you know, they give, like, a lot of people passes, like, Gap Mallers. Right? Like, he works very closely with Tether, which is, you know, who what are they using on Tiktron and Ethereum? So, yeah, this whole</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2466">41:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2466" data-t="2466">this is just a puzzle I've been trying to put together, and I I think we need to challenge the larger ecosystem to recognize North Korea.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2475" data-t="2475">Many of them don't know the history of North Korea.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2478" data-t="2478">They don't know that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2481" data-t="2481">the the Kim dynasty,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2483" data-t="2483">you know, hailing back from, you know, the the war hero Kim Il sung</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2489" data-t="2489">to</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2490">41:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2490" data-t="2490">the birth</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2492" data-t="2492">of Kim Jong il on Mount Paektu</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2495" data-t="2495">to his son,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2500" data-t="2500">Kim Jong il</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2501" data-t="2501">and then Kim Jong il.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2503" data-t="2503">They don't they don't know the history of this dynasty,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2506">41:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2506" data-t="2506">the low time preference that they have,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2510" data-t="2510">and they're all hyper focused on Bukele.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2512" data-t="2512">It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2514" data-t="2514">it's a shame because I feel like North Korea</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2517" data-t="2517">like, Kim Jong Un, if he went to the Bitcoin conference, can you imagine how bullish that would be? How much NGE there would be?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2525">42:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2525" data-t="2525">We gotta get Pete Rizzo to into Pyongyang.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2528" data-t="2528">Mhmm.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2529" data-t="2529">That should be, like, one of the things That's a great for 2021.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2532">42:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2532" data-t="2532">Great great idea, honestly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2535" data-t="2535">We need to send an emissary Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2538" data-t="2538">From PodConte</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2540" data-t="2540">to</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2540">to base it like Richard Nixon he met with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2545" data-t="2545">with Mao</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2546">42:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2546" data-t="2546">on the Great Wall.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2548" data-t="2548">And we need to send Pete to go meet with Yep. So, you know, nor</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2553" data-t="2553">Kim Jong Un's, like, main Bitcoin historian. He's whoever the Pete Rizzo of North Korea is Yep. We need to have them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2560" data-t="2560">meet and there needs to be, you know, at least an initial Bitcoin podcast that they record together. Yeah. And I think the relationship</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2568" data-t="2568">would build out from there. I mean, Danny Knowles could have the the North Korean Pete Rizzo on at after that point. It could be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2575" data-t="2575">a you know, we could probably get a permit to get fountain up there I mean, especially if you could,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2581">43:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2581" data-t="2581">you know hide the podcast you're listening to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2584" data-t="2584">it'd be much safer for North Koreans to listen to Bitcoin podcast that way. But yeah, I think it is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2590" data-t="2590">Then that's a great idea. I mean, this is why,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2593" data-t="2593">you know, we this is why we listen to Bitcoin podcast because we just had an idea pop like that. Then you said, let's send Pete to North Korea. Yeah. And boom.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2603">43:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2603" data-t="2603">Well, we got Bitcoin $20.25 is in Las Vegas. But as far as I'm concerned, 2026</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2609" data-t="2609">has not been determined yet.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2612">43:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2612" data-t="2612">Oh, sure. Is it is, it's gonna be Gaza. Gaza. Oh, god. Well, 2027.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2616">43:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2616" data-t="2616">Let's do 2027</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2617">43:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2617" data-t="2617">in Pyongyang. Perfect. Perfect. I yeah. They're gonna need I mean, they're gonna need that time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2623" data-t="2623">because they got rid of all their chairs, as you know, in North Korea. But when the Bitcoin cod excuse me, Bitcoin pod</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2630" data-t="2630">PodComp conference</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2632" data-t="2632">It's North Korea if they're gonna need shares. Mhmm. Yeah.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2637">43:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2637" data-t="2637">I mean, what I foresee</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2639" data-t="2639">like,</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2639">because I believe strongly in the reunification</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2643" data-t="2643">of Korea</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2645" data-t="2645">as one nation,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2646" data-t="2646">and I think</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2648">44:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2648" data-t="2648">many of the people there locally also believe strongly in that on both sides.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2654" data-t="2654">And I think the way to to really start moving that direction</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2658" data-t="2658">is for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2660" data-t="2660">them to start a Bitcoin podcast on the 38th Parallel</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2665" data-t="2665">Yep. To have a North and South Korean. Huge. That'd be huge.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2669">44:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2669" data-t="2669">And then it it it could be a studio.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2672" data-t="2672">They can do you could they could watch something in the the Genesis podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2676" data-t="2676">And they could create that as a studio that North and South Koreans could schedule time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2682" data-t="2682">to come and use that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2684" data-t="2684">to talk to each other and have a Bitcoin podcast with each other. And they could do that one by one as the podcast phenomenon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2691" data-t="2691">grew.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2692">44:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2692" data-t="2692">It already exists. There's already a building right there that where the armistice was signed back in 1952.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2699" data-t="2699">Right? '52? Was it '52? Right. Where where they signed the the peace treaty. The building is still there, and there's still guards from both sides</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2708" data-t="2708">protecting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2709" data-t="2709">the the side. So we could put a Bitcoin podcaster in that building and build a studio in that building.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2716">45:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2716" data-t="2716">You,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2718" data-t="2718">one by one,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2720" data-t="2720">the Korean from each side would podcast together Yep. Until</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2724" data-t="2724">North and South Korea's incentives were realigned</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2728" data-t="2728">Yep. And the, you know, the border would cease to matter. I mean, once everybody is a libertarian Bitcoin podcaster,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2735" data-t="2735">they don't believe in borders anymore. So who why who's</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2739">45:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2739" data-t="2739">gonna guard the borders are not gonna do it. It's not it's not gonna make sense. And it's it'll you know, that that's how you reunify</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2744" data-t="2744">that country is one podcast of time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2748" data-t="2748">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2750" data-t="2750">the, one of the things we, I think, should do at the Bugle,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2754" data-t="2754">Richard, is one of us should probably</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2757" data-t="2757">create a k pop song.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2760">45:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2760" data-t="2760">A k pop song to let the Korean Bitcoiners know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2764" data-t="2764">that the intellectual Silk Road side</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2767" data-t="2767">of Bitcoin in America and in the West</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2771" data-t="2771">is ready to, is ready to engage.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2774">46:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2774" data-t="2774">Yep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2775" data-t="2775">Podkomp may have let them down,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2777" data-t="2777">but the bugle is still there.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2780">46:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2780" data-t="2780">Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2783" data-t="2783">I I think it's probably time to get into the boost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2787" data-t="2787">Richard, do you want to let, let Boomer know the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2791" data-t="2791">the process and we're doing</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2793">46:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2793" data-t="2793">here. Yep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2794" data-t="2794">So I before we go into the booth, I ask every guest two questions, and I think they're very, very important questions.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2802" data-t="2802">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2803" data-t="2803">the first one, I think we talked about it. I can't remember if we were recording or not. The first question is, did you listen to the last episode</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2811" data-t="2811">of behind the podcast?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2813">46:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2813" data-t="2813">I swear to god I did. I just don't remember. Because the one the one with Mars was so good</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2819" data-t="2819">that that's the one that stuck in my brain. And the one with Sly was so good and fundamentals. So I did listen. I swear to god.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2826">47:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2826" data-t="2826">Did did you know that Mars</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2829" data-t="2829">is secretly bankrolling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2831" data-t="2831">the bugle behind the scenes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2833" data-t="2833">with his,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2835" data-t="2835">all the money he's making driving a forklift around. Not surprised. He's Mhmm.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2842" data-t="2842">He's he's our, like, our shadow financier. He's our version of USAID,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2847">47:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2847" data-t="2847">Mars Spitz bars. So Mars Spitz Bars is to the bugle what tether is to Swan?</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2853">47:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2853" data-t="2853">Mhmm.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2854" data-t="2854">Exactly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2856" data-t="2856">Except for Mars would not rock us. Yeah.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2861">47:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2861" data-t="2861">Yeah. What what the CIA</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2863" data-t="2863">is to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2865" data-t="2865">Bitcoin magazine now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2869" data-t="2869">The second question</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2870" data-t="2870">is, are you Jewish?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2873" data-t="2873">No. Are you okay with not being Jewish, or do you wish you were Jewish?</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2879">47:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2879" data-t="2879">I'm perfectly okay with not being Jewish. I swear to god, like like, I'm from a place where there were no Jewish people at all. I I I don't think I'd ever met a Jewish person until I went to university.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2889" data-t="2889">Mhmm. But that is, you know</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2891">48:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2891" data-t="2891">Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you right. You you you didn't you had to yeah. You didn't. Just I didn't get up on Saturday and drive an hour to go to the bank. So you obviously didn't live, you know, in a town with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2902" data-t="2902">with Jews, but you get to college. Right? You get to university. Yeah. I I had a very similar very similar experience.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2909">48:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2909" data-t="2909">Did did you feel like growing up without any Jews around you that, like, there was, like, an absence of, like, good accountants</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2917" data-t="2917">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2918" data-t="2918">comedians and and podcasters</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2921">48:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2921" data-t="2921">and and newspaper writers. Good podcast, no good movies coming from your area either. No good movies. I noticed that. No good movies. Very good.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2929">48:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2929" data-t="2929">Yeah. Let's get into the fountain booth. So our last episode</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2933" data-t="2933">was with Frank Korva, the legendary journalist,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2937" data-t="2937">and we were discussing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2939" data-t="2939">fixing the CIA's incentives,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2941" data-t="2941">the first boost of our show.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2944" data-t="2944">Alright. Like, on the on the episode, we talked a lot about USAID. We talked about Bitcoin magazine.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2950">49:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2950" data-t="2950">We talked about Lynn Alden's hot. We talked about the Gaza conference.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2955" data-t="2955">It was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2956" data-t="2956">we covered a lot of ground in that episode.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2959" data-t="2959">But the first boost of the show</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2963" data-t="2963">let me actually do this. This is better. First boost of the show is from late stage huddle for 10,000 sats who says, thanks to Oscar Mary for supplying the auto rewind function in Fountain.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2975" data-t="2975">I used to think this was a glitch, but now I know this must be AI implemented</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2980">49:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2980" data-t="2980">under the hood to ensure that it automatically rewinds</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2984" data-t="2984">the most important portions of my bit favorite Bitcoin podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2989" data-t="2989">when it knows I was too focused staring at Lynn Alden's ear on what Bitcoin did</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2994" data-t="2994">episode cover page.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2997">49:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2997" data-t="2997">We've all been there. So Oh, yeah. I mean, there's I can't I can't tell you how many podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3002" data-t="3002">I just forgot fifteen minutes of because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3005" data-t="3005">I saw Lynn Alden's picture on, you know, when I was scrolling for the next one.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3009" data-t="3009">Mhmm. She is very dreamy, I will say. Yeah. I talked to somebody who told me that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3014" data-t="3014">they got distracted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3017" data-t="3017">seeing a,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3018">50:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3018" data-t="3018">video of Lynn Alden on their Twitter timeline,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3021" data-t="3021">and it caused them to to paste the wrong Bitcoin address</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3025" data-t="3025">into a transaction. So they sent some sats to, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3029" data-t="3029">a phantom address because the guy it's almost like getting distracted by a pretty woman and me crashing a car. Oh, one thing,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3036">50:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3036" data-t="3036">I I think this is pretty standard</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3038" data-t="3038">at being a public servant in Canada,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3041" data-t="3041">boomer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3044" data-t="3044">I'm pretty sure that you're supposed to do</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3047" data-t="3047">acknowledgments</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3048">50:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3048" data-t="3048">to the tribal lands in which Land acknowledgments. Yeah. Land acknowledgments.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3054">50:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3054" data-t="3054">Did we did we wanna do land</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3057" data-t="3057">acknowledgments</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3058" data-t="3058">before</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3059" data-t="3059">we continue any further?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3061">51:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3061" data-t="3061">But you're supposed to do land acknowledgments at the beginning. I I don't know if you do them at the end. Like, you know, is that If you start a Bitcoin podcast, would you begin</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3070">51:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3070" data-t="3070">your episodes with the land acknowledgment?</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3072">51:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3072" data-t="3072">But you have to. Sure. Okay. Yeah. Like, of course. Well I I think the Canadian Bitcoin podcasters don't do it. I I think because it would like, this is an honest</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3082" data-t="3082">an honest mistake. We forgot to do it at the beginning.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3085" data-t="3085">So I think we should do it before we continue any further.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3090">51:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3090" data-t="3090">So I I would on behalf of the my my good friends here at the Bugle, I just want to acknowledge that we are on the unceded land of the Anunnaki tribe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3099" data-t="3099">and, that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3102" data-t="3102">we we we respect</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3103">51:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3103" data-t="3103">them and their sacrifices. Yeah. One of the things we did early in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3108" data-t="3108">this podcast is we we did a land acknowledgment at the beginning of an episode,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3113" data-t="3113">but we did a land acknowledgement</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3115" data-t="3115">to The US Dollar because we've been and, you know, we predicted that Bitcoin had already won</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3120" data-t="3120">back in the summertime.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3122" data-t="3122">So we did land acknowledgement for the US dollar. And I think</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3126">52:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3126" data-t="3126">maybe that it's time to start doing that more broadly because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3130" data-t="3130">people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3131" data-t="3131">are really catching on now that Bitcoin has already won. So it's like the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3135" data-t="3135">colonial</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3136" data-t="3136">colonializing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3137" data-t="3137">the economic system</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3139">52:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3139" data-t="3139">and we're taking it from a a dying,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3142">52:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3142" data-t="3142">you know, manifest destiny. So it's time to acknowledge it. Sir, are you gonna keep on rambling, or are you gonna do a land acknowledgment,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3149" data-t="3149">Rod, or do you want me to do mine?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3152">52:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3152" data-t="3152">Oh, I didn't know we're all three doing them. Oh, yeah. We're</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3155">52:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3155" data-t="3155">we we have to show respect</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3158">52:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3158" data-t="3158">here. Sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. Alright.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3161">52:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3161" data-t="3161">I wanna do</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3164" data-t="3164">a an acknowledgment</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3166" data-t="3166">to Kalpash,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3167" data-t="3167">who owns the seven eleven,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3169" data-t="3169">which is downstairs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3171" data-t="3171">He</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3172">52:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3172" data-t="3172">hails from Mumbai, India, and he came with his family.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3176" data-t="3176">And we are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3178" data-t="3178">I am currently</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3180" data-t="3180">in the Beagle studio residing on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3183" data-t="3183">Indian land,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3185" data-t="3185">and I just wanna acknowledge him</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3187">53:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3187" data-t="3187">and his, his tribe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3189" data-t="3189">and all of his family members that work with him at the seven Eleven dumpsters. Well, I'm Rod Palmer, and, I would like to acknowledge</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3198">53:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3198" data-t="3198">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3199" data-t="3199">Aztec</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3200" data-t="3200">Mayan</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3201" data-t="3201">and other Latino</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3203" data-t="3203">BIPOCs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3204" data-t="3204">who</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3205">53:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3205" data-t="3205">used to live on this land, but is now, you know, in Texas,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3211" data-t="3211">20 acres for, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3214" data-t="3214">2 Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3216" data-t="3216">It's cheap. And it's all because we stole it from the Incas, the Mayans, and the Aztecs, and the Hispanics.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3222" data-t="3222">And it's good. It just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3225" data-t="3225">acknowledging the, we I've just stand on blaze soil. Yeah.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3230">53:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3230" data-t="3230">I I also wanna acknowledge</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3232" data-t="3232">the super smoking hot b b l,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3236" data-t="3236">Veronica that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3238" data-t="3238">was in the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3240" data-t="3240">the room next door, and she actually got deported</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3244" data-t="3244">recently.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3245">54:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3245" data-t="3245">That's heartbreaking.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3247">54:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3247" data-t="3247">I was told that the thick Latinas could stay. Well, unfortunately, the Some of the ice guys yeah. Some of the ice guys are really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3256" data-t="3256">they they don't like the the big booty Latinas. They</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3259" data-t="3259">are white in the, you know, in the sneakers, so to speak.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3263">54:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3263" data-t="3263">Mhmm. They don't think when Alden is hot. They just they haven't been orange pilled yet. If they were orange pilled, they would leave the PBLs alone.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3271">54:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3271" data-t="3271">Do you think more people would be, like, Lyn Alden pilled if Lyn Alden did a scene, like, in Basic Instinct? You know that scene in Basic Instinct when Sharon Stone is, like, being interrogated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3282" data-t="3282">and she opens her legs? Like, do you think more people would be Lynn Alden pilled if Lynn Alden did a similar thing but with her ear? Well,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3289">54:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3289" data-t="3289">I think the thing about Lynn Alden</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3292" data-t="3292">is she's doing something impressive right now. She she's really like this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3298" data-t="3298">this type of Atlas figure</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3301" data-t="3301">just shrugging the world above her head in the sense that she is going around redefining</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3307" data-t="3307">beauty standards.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3309" data-t="3309">And</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3310">55:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3310" data-t="3310">in a world that's so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3313" data-t="3313">about like, you've got the lair and booties. You've got Iggy Azalea pumping meme coins. You've got the Hawke Tour girl talking about blowjobs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3322" data-t="3322">and rug pulling people.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3324" data-t="3324">Lyn Alden</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3326">55:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3326" data-t="3326">She's dropping signal.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3327">55:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3327" data-t="3327">Yeah. She's dropping signal. And and that's part of the reason why, you know, she's so hot is because she's not trying to leverage,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3336" data-t="3336">you know, her figure</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3338" data-t="3338">or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3340" data-t="3340">these different aspects about her in any sort of sexual</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3344" data-t="3344">manner. She's just going out there,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3346" data-t="3346">just spitting fire, molten hot lava,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3350">55:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3350" data-t="3350">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3351" data-t="3351">I would say</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3352" data-t="3352">that's, like, that's incredibly hot, and that's very different than a lot of these other,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3357" data-t="3357">Bitcoin women.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3359" data-t="3359">Like, she's not like Isabella</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3361" data-t="3361">posting pictures of herself or videos of herself sitting in a hot tub in a bikini.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3366">56:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3366" data-t="3366">She's not like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3369" data-t="3369">what's her name? Laura Halpern. You know who I'm talking about? The boob No. Laya. Laya Halpern. The, fake tits. She's a funny talker.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3377">56:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3377" data-t="3377">Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think she's pot shop sponsored for sure. Right? She's like the she's like the Aubrey Strobel</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3383">56:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3383" data-t="3383">of London.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3384" data-t="3384">Mhmm.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3386">56:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3386" data-t="3386">But she's worse than Aubrey Strobel. Like, I think Aubrey Strobel, like, she she knows she's hot, and she's using her asset to to promote the adoption of Bitcoin. But Leah is just like</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3397">56:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3397" data-t="3397">a a full blown Well, Aubrey used to be a shit coiner.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3401" data-t="3401">Aubrey Strobel</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3402" data-t="3402">is like the prodigal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3404" data-t="3404">hot babe of Bitcoin. She kinda learned</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3408" data-t="3408">learned that Bitcoin only is the way to go, and she came back.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3411">56:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3411" data-t="3411">Yeah. I respect that. But Lynn Alden is just in a league of her own. Yeah. She's the wonder woman</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3417">56:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3417" data-t="3417">of Bitcoin for sure.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3419">56:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3419" data-t="3419">Yep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3420" data-t="3420">Well, thank you guys for doing the land acknowledgements.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3423" data-t="3423">I think that we should probably do that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3426" data-t="3426">more throughout the probably at the beginning of the next The next one is anonymous.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3431">57:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3431" data-t="3431">They boosted 5,000 sats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3434" data-t="3434">Erin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3435" data-t="3435">Van Verum has a girlfriend.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3437" data-t="3437">I can't believe it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3439" data-t="3439">Is there any proof of that?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3441" data-t="3441">Buy love, Michael Sailor in a gay way.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3445">57:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3445" data-t="3445">I don't remember talking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3447" data-t="3447">about Aaron</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3449" data-t="3449">except for that Frank liked working with them or something, but I don't I don't remember the girlfriend port. I think yeah. I mean,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3457">57:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3457" data-t="3457">Boomer, do you have a girlfriend? Do you are you married? Do you have a wife? Yeah. I got a girlfriend. I got a girlfriend. Mhmm. Yeah.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3463">57:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3463" data-t="3463">She's good. Like, she, like, she's she understands the Bitcoin stuff pretty good. She thinks, like, Lightning is a shit coin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3470" data-t="3470">That's when you know you gotta keep There you go. That's when you know you gotta keep her when when she's if it's not base layer, it's a shit coin.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3477">57:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3477" data-t="3477">Base. That's the definition of a base girlfriend. Based. Yes. Very based.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3482">58:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3482" data-t="3482">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3483" data-t="3483">did you teach her about Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3487" data-t="3487">or does she</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3488" data-t="3488">know about it before?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3490">58:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3490" data-t="3490">That's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3493" data-t="3493">she was a little she was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3495" data-t="3495">she had dipped her toes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3497" data-t="3497">into Bitcoin before</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3499" data-t="3499">we got together,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3500" data-t="3500">but,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3501">58:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3501" data-t="3501">we kinda I I definitely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3504" data-t="3504">pushed her along, but she she had already gotten herself</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3507" data-t="3507">to the door on her own. So she basically</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3510">58:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3510" data-t="3510">was like, I need to learn about and buy Bitcoin so I can afford my taxes. And then she met you, and she's like, alright. This motherfucker is listening to forty hours per week. I just have to be able to use his node if I to use a transaction.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3522">58:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3522" data-t="3522">Oh, she yeah. Yeah. A little bit. Like, it's a way I I think, like, I'm a filter for the podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3528" data-t="3528">So when I send her a text in the morning, you know, just to tell her how ask her how she's doing, and then I send</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3535" data-t="3535">her three or four podcasts that I'm listening to, right, that morning, then she knows throughout the day, like, that that I've I've already pre filtered</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3543">59:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3543" data-t="3543">the best Bitcoin podcast for her for a day. Like, she has a tough time getting to forty hours. She she can do she probably does twenty hours, but, you know That's what it's like. It's like doing push ups on your knees. It's twenty hours is for girls. That's hard. Right? And yeah. No. I think a lot of people think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3561" data-t="3561">I'm trying to be controlling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3564" data-t="3564">when I screen my girlfriend's Bitcoin podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3567" data-t="3567">I'm not trying to be controlling. I'm trying to curate the best signal that I think that she's going to enjoy and learn the most of learn the most from.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3576">59:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3576" data-t="3576">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3578" data-t="3578">And, like, I I'm not jealous. Like, I'll send her a Robert Breedlove podcast if I think that that's the best podcast for her to listen to. Like, I'm I'm not insecure. Oh, yeah.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3588">59:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3588" data-t="3588">Yeah. And that's important. That is important. You do not want</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3592" data-t="3592">to be the guy who's, like, screaming and not letting her see Dennis Porter's announcements. Yeah. This and then Dennis Porter's interviews. Like, just because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3601" data-t="3601">he's got an orange billing aura that just screams sexuality</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3605" data-t="3605">doesn't mean your girlfriend wouldn't benefit from the signal that he, you know, provides. Totally. So the next one,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3612" data-t="3612">provides you rich. Well,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3614">1:00:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3614" data-t="3614">I just wanna say that's cool that your girlfriends did to it, that that you really were the catalyst to do that. I think that's really the Bushido</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3622" data-t="3622">of Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3623" data-t="3623">that you're living out right there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3626" data-t="3626">And it would be interesting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3628" data-t="3628">to do a podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3630" data-t="3630">on that</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3632">1:00:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3632" data-t="3632">process because I think there's a lot of orange shells out there that are really frustrated.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3638" data-t="3638">They wanna get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3640" data-t="3640">a potential</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3642" data-t="3642">girlfriend</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3643" data-t="3643">into Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3645" data-t="3645">but</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3646">1:00:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3646" data-t="3646">they're struggling with it. And so understanding</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3649" data-t="3649">the tactics that you used</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3651" data-t="3651">to have a good relationship</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3653" data-t="3653">like you have,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3655">1:00:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3655" data-t="3655">I think would be helpful for a lot of these guys. I think that we we need to get further along in the bull market for that to make sense, because we need the bull market to happen to get the girlfriends.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3665" data-t="3665">And then once they have the girlfriends,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3668" data-t="3668">then it's getting them orange pills.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3670" data-t="3670">You don't wanna put you don't wanna put the the carriage before the horse. Yep. I mean,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3675">1:01:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3675" data-t="3675">I I think that's that sounds pretty reasonable to me. It it's kinda like what you were saying earlier about, like, you you smoke cigarettes one puff at a time. Like, you gotta take the relationship</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3686" data-t="3686">one step at a time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3688" data-t="3688">The next boost is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3689" data-t="3689">from Dave</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3692" data-t="3692">40 HPW who says</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3694" data-t="3694">for 2,100</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3695">1:01:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3695" data-t="3695">sets who says v for v,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3698" data-t="3698">tether is BTC,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3700" data-t="3700">LAIH,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3702" data-t="3702">macro n g u, Frank knows. I guess Frank knows.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3706">1:01:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3706" data-t="3706">Right. No. Frank yeah. Frank understood.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3709" data-t="3709">He understands he's Simon. He's he's working in Washington DC right now. He just knows</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3715" data-t="3715">he's gotta be locked in forty hours per week. He it's it's out of checklist. It's it's not something that he has time to think about. He has to build it into the routine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3724" data-t="3724">for him to, you know, report the news. He's one of the most important reporters,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3730" data-t="3730">in Bitcoin right now because he's close to the first Bitcoin president. So there's just a lot of regulatory clarity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3737" data-t="3737">that we're waiting on. You know? Frank Nels?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3740">1:02:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3740" data-t="3740">Definitely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3741" data-t="3741">Well, yeah. I mean, there was a lot of interesting buzzwords in that one. I I really hope that Donald Trump does an executive order</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3749" data-t="3749">declaring Lin Alden as hot. That would be the,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3752">1:02:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3752" data-t="3752">that would definitely really, like, a a a turning point in our culture</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3758" data-t="3758">where we're finally getting rid of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3762" data-t="3762">sexism and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3764" data-t="3764">air you know, all that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3766" data-t="3766">DEI and then all the sexism on the other side, we're getting rid of it and we're just going to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3772" data-t="3772">kind of commemorate that by</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3775">1:02:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3775" data-t="3775">making it official. Boomer, are you on Noister?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3778">1:02:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3778" data-t="3778">Yeah. I'm on Noister.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3780">1:03:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3780" data-t="3780">I tagged you guys a couple of days ago. This morning, maybe. Maybe it was just right. I I'm I'm usually the one on Noister. So I saw that. Yeah. I know. Yeah. It's hard to use Noister on a typewriter.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3792">1:03:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3792" data-t="3792">Yes.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3793">1:03:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3793" data-t="3793">It's just hard to use Noister.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3795">1:03:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">The Broken Ruler</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3795" data-t="3795">I I understand. Like, my name's Boomer for a reason. It's not because I'm old. Well,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3800">1:03:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3800" data-t="3800">I think something that's really important for people to understand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3804" data-t="3804">is the revolution will not have good UX,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3808">1:03:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3808" data-t="3808">and it's gonna be hard. Yeah. It's gonna be for, that it you gotta be able to put</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3814" data-t="3814">that effort in to do forty hours per week. You gotta be able to put that effort in to learn how to use a cold guard. You gotta learn how to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3822" data-t="3822">use Electrum Server. Like, the UX here is terrible. Lightning the UX is terrible.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3828" data-t="3828">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3829" data-t="3829">that's why there's BTC sessions tutorials. That is why there is Bitcoin podcast. You just have to be willing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3836" data-t="3836">to put in the work. Proof of work. Yeah.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3839">1:03:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3839" data-t="3839">You know, you know, the last two is Boomerino and pies. We talked about them. 2,100</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3845" data-t="3845">sets,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3846" data-t="3846">value for value, mushroom flex. Let's fucking go. And then another one, a thousand sats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3852" data-t="3852">Yo. Mind blown. Value for value,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3856" data-t="3856">mushroom,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3857" data-t="3857">wax. He was probably jackhammering</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3858">1:04:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3858" data-t="3858">out on some job site in the negative temperatures,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3863" data-t="3863">but he was still listening to Bitcoin podcasts. He just had, you know, get the right</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3868" data-t="3868">right earphones, keep your ears warm while you're listening to signal. How many hours do you think Pies puts in a week? I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3875" data-t="3875">I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3876" data-t="3876">think it might</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3878" data-t="3878">physicist might want to study this because I think he's somehow slowing down time for himself</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3884">1:04:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3884" data-t="3884">and listening to more hours than are in a day. And I'm not even accounting for putting it on 1.5 speed. I'm saying I don't think I think Pius has to listen Yeah. On,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3893" data-t="3893">you know, normal speed. He still gets his time in by thinking, you know, this is my guess.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3899" data-t="3899">But he's doing it. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3901" data-t="3901">A real Chad. He's doing it. Well, Boomer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3905" data-t="3905">thank you for coming on. It was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3908" data-t="3908">an honor to hear that it was an honor for you to be on our show.</span></span></p>
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