0:00Richard Greaser This is Richard Greaser coming to you from the Beagle newsroom in a secret location in New York City. We all know Canada is ran by a bunch of nicotine deficient losers. The country is on the verge of collapse following Canada's loss to The United States in hockey. The morale is so low that individuals like Sly Gooba are begging for Donald Trump to annex the collapsing country and force them to use Tethr. There's a man, though, who couldn't be bothered by all the bearish sentiment. Joining us tonight is a former HR representative for Marlborough, noncompliant English teacher

0:36Richard Greaser and touring podcast guest, organizing Bitcoin meetups unfazed by cold weather, paddle boarding and advising the Canadian government on economics in the city of Ottawa is the broken ruler. While some may call him delusional, others see him as an optimist who will never let the communist looters get him down. Rocking a beard and a clean haircut, you can see lasers coming out as a

1:03Richard Greaser out his eyes as he attempts to orange peel government officials. Welcome to the show, Boomer. Would you prefer us to call you by your Bitcoin name or your Fiat name? You can call me anything you want, Richard.

1:18The Broken Ruler Like, it's just an honor to be here. And and, like, that introduction, like, that tears in my eyes. Like, I I I've never felt so honored in my life. And most of that is actually true. What do you mean most of it? I'm a journalist. Clearly. No, man. Like, it feels good. Like, it feels good to be here, but, I I'm not exactly advising many people in the government over here. Nobody listens to me. I'm I'm a public servant in the same way that, like, the old lady at the DMV is a public servant.

1:50The Broken Ruler I just, do in my do my time, and I check out check and I check out. Your,

1:56Rod Palmer you know, your your day job is to analyze them, like but your your job is to listen to macro podcasts. Is that, how you would categorize it?

2:07The Broken Ruler I think everybody's job is to listen to macro pack podcasts.

2:12Rod Palmer But, but, yes, I I do listen to a lot of macro podcasts while I'm at You just happen to get you and you're so let's be that clear. You believe it is everybody's duty or everybody's job to listen to macro podcast. You just happen to get paid by taxpayer dollars to do it.

2:28The Broken Ruler I can I can say that that is sometimes the case? Okay. You know? If if you're not listening to if you're not listening to macro podcasts or Bitcoin podcasts at any moment of the day that any spare five minutes, then you're just short your forty hours. Right? You gotta get as many macro podcasts out there as possible. You gotta get as much Bitcoin podcasts out in there as as possible. Right? If you got a meeting with HR on the 4th Floor and you're on the 8th Floor and it takes you five minutes to get down there, then you better have those headphones ready, and you better plug that plug those bad boys in. Like, that's five minutes you can listen to Larry LeParque.

3:04Rod Palmer Right. But if you have to shovel your driveway, you know, before you go to your job listening to macro podcasts, that's a great time to listen to macro podcasts. And. Yeah. And so this is, you know, we we've had a lot of guests.

3:23Rod Palmer You know, I think you're our tenth, on this on this podcast. And a lot of them, they come out here and they they say, of course, I listen to forty hours of we per week of Bitcoin podcasts. I, you know, I I totally do.

3:41Rod Palmer I but they don't. I mean, most of them haven't even listened to the podcast the week before to, you know, prepare. They didn't even take coming on our podcast seriously enough to listen to the episode right before it to see what it was all about. So it's very unlikely to me that they listen to forty hours per week like they say.

4:02Rod Palmer But you are the first guest we've had. That is not the case. You the proof of work shows you you posted the other day on Twitter looking for, like, an index of every Bitcoin podcast that exists because all the ones that you could find on your own, I mean, you're already somebody who knows how to to find a good podcast and all the ones that you could find on your own. You ran out. You needed more.

4:28Rod Palmer So, you know, you had your it was sixty hours per week in your Twitter handle for a while before you changed it. You know what you're talking about? You how how what advice would you give to somebody for how they can think about optimizing their lives

4:47Rod Palmer to be more efficient with their time so they can listen to more hours of Bitcoin podcasts?

4:53The Broken Ruler Well, let me first give a shout out to Pies. Because, like, I'm I'm I'm big league Bitcoin podcast listener, but Pies, he might actually be like the Jordan. You know? Like, if I can be the Pippen to his Jordan of listening to to Bitcoin podcast, then I think that's that's that's an honor because, you know, Pippen's a hall of famer too. Mhmm. You gotta you gotta get every minute you possibly can to to listen to this stuff. Right? If you wanna do forty hours, forty hours is pretty easy, but sixty hours,

5:26The Broken Ruler first of all, you gotta be doing 1.75 speed right off the bat.

5:30Rod Palmer Like, if you're any slower than one Not not everybody is able to listen to Preston Pysh or Larry Lapard, like you mentioned, or, you know, Nick Boccia.

5:44Rod Palmer I mean, that's some high level signal, and not everybody is able to really absorb it at 1.75 speed like you that's something you have to like it's like you don't go surfing, you know, if you don't know how to swim. It's like you're gonna drown. Yeah. So you have to you have to train. You have to take your mind and your body, really. It's a physical. It's not just a mental. It is a a connection healthy enough to be able to really take in that much signal

6:15Rod Palmer in that, you know, with that speed.

6:17The Broken Ruler It's also a way of life. Mhmm. It's it's it's also a way of life. Like, you gotta be a professional, and you gotta be you gotta be ready to make the sacrifices too. Right? You know? And and the people around you have to realize it. You know? Like, if your girlfriend doesn't like you listening to Bitcoin podcast in the car while you're driving to go get the groceries while she's in the passenger seat, well, you gotta leave her home. Right? Like, that that's prime time. You gotta be ready to go all the time. You have to have a pair of headphones with you everywhere you go. You gotta use the bathroom,

6:49The Broken Ruler but you gotta listen you gotta go to the bathroom. You got you got it in the morning. That's like seven minutes. At 1.75 speed, you got seven minutes. You can you can do a Natalie Brunell news block in ten minutes at at one x speed. So at 1.75

7:06The Broken Ruler speed, you can get that you can get that podcast right off the bat just while you're having your dump in the morning. You gotta be ready every moment of the day to consume more podcast. And you have to be willing,

7:18Rod Palmer you know, if you if you get to Saturday and you've had a really long week at work, you've been hitting the chin, you've been doing you've been crushing it. But you're a little bit behind under forty hours per week. And if you don't wake up at 6AM when you wanted to sleep in and, you know, go get a coffee and and start it. Yeah. Start smoking cigarettes at six a. M. So you can get that extra, you know, four or five hours in. So you get your forty hours. You gotta be willing to do that. But like you said, you also have to be like, you have to think of every situation. What if you just think that you're dropping off, you know, something with your at your mother in law's house,

7:59Rod Palmer for your wife, and she comes out and she asks you to mow her lawn? Do you have your headphones? Are you ready in that moment to put two hours in ready for, you know, any Bitcoin podcast? You always got You know, because you might if you get in that situation and you're not ready, then you've just wasted two hours. Wasted. Wasted. Wasted.

8:19The Broken Ruler Now You gotta be ready all the time. You gotta have headphones with you all the time. I keep a I keep a set of headphones in the car, and I got Bluetooth in my car. I don't need those headphones in my car. But I keep those I keep those headphones in there just in case a situation like that occurs, where I'm somewhere that I'm not home and my favorite my favorite headphones are at home. Well, I got a backup set

8:41Rod Palmer in the car ready to go. Yeah. Boy, if were you boy, if you just have insomnia one night, then you're laying there, you know, 01:00 in the morning in your in your headphones that you didn't charge the battery.

8:53The Broken Ruler So you're not Oh, dude. Screwed. You just gotta lay there and count sheep. Battery? What are you like, I I go wired. You gotta do wired, man. Like, this is the moneymaker. This is the moneymaker. The head over here, this is my moneymaker. I I gotta protect that. So I'm not I'm not taking anything to chance with wireless headphones and, like, radiation and all that shit. No. No. No. No. No. Wired headphones only. I think that,

9:16Rod Palmer you know, I just my personal opinion is what I try to do is if I'm ever caught lacking, you know, I don't I'm a situation where I should have had my headphones. I should have been ready for fifteen, twenty minutes to listen to a podcast. I I just I pull out time chain calendar and I just force myself to spend that idle time, just watching watching the blockchain, watching the the blocks come in, just, you know, watching the rhythm of the network and just trying to use that as a reminder. Yeah. That's a pro move. No. Pro move.

9:47Richard Greaser So on the topics of radiation to your brain, like, I think this is something a lot of people are concerned about. In the Bitcoin ecosystem, people care about their health. They smoke cigarettes. They eat raw beef. They, Sun their balls. They do they yeah. They sun their balls. They Oh, they are. They don't wear sunscreen. Yep. Yeah. They they do all the proper healthy things to be successful, but that's not always a guarantee

10:16Richard Greaser that you're gonna be okay. Right? So, like, one of the biggest concerns myself that I have for my own health is how do you protect yourself against the Jewish

10:28The Broken Ruler space lasers? Well, you gotta what color is your roof? If your roof is anything other than blue, then you're not, you know, or you're not taking it seriously.

10:38Rod Palmer So you gotta take it seriously. Well, that's a huge yeah. That's a huge conflict. Families want to they wanna paint their roofs orange. You know, they want people to net out their Bitcoiners, right? That's true. That, there you go. That's bull can't that, that's a good point that you bring up because how do you maintain OPSEC as a Bitcoiner If everywhere you go, you have your headphones on or ready to go, that that is it's like, it's like it's like a cop muse is walking somebody's walking around with, you know, whatever. They give away by their their behavior.

11:10The Broken Ruler Well, there's a few things you can do. There's a few things you can do. You can pretend that you're on the phone. Right? You can turn the volume down a little bit and just start having a conversation with yourself, and then everyone around you thinks you're talking on the phone. Right? That's one thing you can do. Or you can just start randomly singing. You know? You just start, like, the start singing the boy's mind, the boy's mind, the boy's mind. You know? Like, people think that you're listening to Brandy and Monica. You know? Like, that that's what you gotta do. And and then you what you always have to do too, like, every good forty hour a week Bitcoin listener knows this. You always have a couple of podcasts loaded up that aren't Bitcoin podcasts

11:48The Broken Ruler just in case. Mhmm. You know? You you have a Jack Cruz podcast on the go. Just, you know, you can scroll on there real quick or Joe Rogan one. That's a good one. Yep. I think, you know, that is something I have.

12:02Rod Palmer The fountain I've I've I've sent them all kinds of recommendations for how they can improve the podcast listening experience because that's important. Right? It's not just about a platform for the podcasters to market their podcast. It's about the listening experience. It is

12:21Rod Palmer a very it it's very similar to which hardware wallet or which multi signature wallet. It's a way of expressing your, you know, your preferences about Bitcoin and to be able, you know, Bitcoin is care about offset. Like, you should be able, like, when I have my custodial lightning wall and open I can press a button and change the setting so you can't see my my balance So somebody can't just look over my shoulder and see wow. This guy's got 20,000 sats just fucking ready for the take in here so, like, I don't want them to graze over my shoulder and see that I'm listening to, like, the blue collar Bitcoin podcast or,

13:04Rod Palmer you know, green green light candle podcast or, you know, Guy Swan or something. Like, I wanna be able to hit a cloak and make it, like, this guy's listening to Tucker Carlson or this guy's listening to the progressive Bitcoin or podcast. Like, something like that. Something that's just gonna totally throw them off because, you know, if you sit next to me on the train every day and you see the podcast I'm listening to, you're gonna you're gonna be able to dissect

13:31Rod Palmer that,

13:32The Broken Ruler this guy's probably got some point. Yeah. Yep. That's a good point. One that especially that I can you know, I completely agree with that. Like, I really like the high hash rate podcast, and that's one that I don't want anybody knowing I'm listening to that while I'm at work.

13:49Rod Palmer Right? Or right. Like, if you're if you're at family and, like, you know, your father-in-law sees your podcast and sees a big old pot leaf on there. Yeah. A pot leaf and a Bitcoin logo. Mhmm. Right. They're they're gonna think this motherfucker is noncompliant.

14:03Richard Greaser Yeah. One of my one of my favorite wallet features is in blue wallet, and I'm sure other wallets have this, but you can have decoy passwords so that you can open up a wallet and show, like, a either low balance or no balance. So, like, say you get wrench attack. Yep. That's the case. And, like, I think you need the option to do that with fountain,

14:30Richard Greaser like, to have better OPSEC, essentially, if that makes sense. You have a decoy password to get into Fountain. Yeah.

14:40Rod Palmer I should be able to change the the entire branding of your app. So it just looks like I'm listening to Joe Rogan on my Apple, you know, podcast app. Like, I I don't want them to know I was in the fountain, that I use fountain. But I think if think about the implications of people knowing that when you're listening to podcasts, you that you are literally streaming money. Yeah. You know, from your phone over your Wi Fi, over your data. Like, that they're gonna wanna come and and and steal that. Yeah. Yeah.

15:12Richard Greaser It's like there's so many examples. So, like, I think it'd be pretty easy to pitch, like, for Oscar Mayer. He's probably thinking about this. He's like, okay. Wow. Another feature that is expensive to implement that takes a bunch of developer time to do. You know, I think that you could easily argue for, like, an open SaaS grant or an HRF grant to build this because there's women there there's women in

15:40Richard Greaser Islamic countries where it's illegal to listen to Bitcoin podcasts without your husband's permission without, essentially, you know, approval. And and they shouldn't be deprived of Bitcoin podcasts, in my opinion. They need

15:58Richard Greaser freedom tools to be able to listen adversarially.

16:02The Broken Ruler Yes. Yes. Like, what I wouldn't give to be able to listen to a Bitcoin podcast, But if somebody saw my phone, they think that I'm listening to NPR.

16:12Rod Palmer Mhmm. Oh, yeah. Exactly. You're exactly. You don't wanna be listening to Joe Rogan in Washington, DC or Ottawa either. Right? You wanna be listening to NPR. NPR. You wanna be listening to John Stewart. Yep. You know, something like that.

16:27The Broken Ruler Yep. So, like, I agree with you, Richard. You know? Like, it's it's it's it's good to think about those girls in in Afghanistan,

16:34Rod Palmer but, you know, I'm worried about me too. Mhmm. Like, I think that I think that this kind of, you know we could talk about features all day, but I think it comes down to Oscar Mayer and his team at Fountain. Like, I get it. They are building a revolutionary product. They are creating one of the most, popular,

16:57Rod Palmer you know, apps in the value this new value for value Bitcoin based economy. That's that takes a lot of time. They don't have a lot of employees, so they're doing a lot of work. And I know that they're always fixing bugs because fountain, you know, that's if you work at fountain, I can't imagine you'd be doing anything else. But it I they I don't think maybe they don't have enough time or maybe they've just kind of gotten too it they don't wanna take their work home with, I don't I just don't know if they're listening to forty hours. I don't know if Oscar Mayer is listening to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast per week because I think if he was, it would it wouldn't the user experience would be much more,

17:40The Broken Ruler would be much bigger project. I gotta push back a little bit on on that. Like, I think guys like Oscar Mayer, I think they're heroes. Like, he's not listening to forty hours say that. I think he's here. Listening to forty hours of podcast. I agree with you. But he's building a platform so that I can. You know? Where's the Human Rights Foundation, you know, helping him out? I think you know, I think that sacrificing for me.

18:07Rod Palmer Mhmm. I think that everybody deserves to be able to listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts per week. And I think that I just would rather live in a society that has the the time low enough time preference

18:26Rod Palmer to understand that even if somebody who's sacrificing everything to build that product for me, like, they should, you know, we should still create the incentives for them to be able to listen to forty hours as well and raise their fame.

18:39The Broken Ruler Yep. I agree. You know? And listening to forty hours, even sixty hours, it's low time preference, and it's also a lot like Bitcoin. It's it's capturing stranded energy. Like, if you wanna get up to the upper echelon, like, Pies if you had Pies on here, like like I said, Pies is the Michael Jordan of listening to the podcast. You know that Pies, he's capturing every last second of his day, just like the Bitcoin mining network captures every last

19:05The Broken Ruler electron of waste and stranded energy. Did he,

19:09Rod Palmer you know, one of the themes of this podcast, as you know, as a as a long time listener, is we talk a lot about things like regulatory clarity, the right to be compliant, the the problems of a noncompliant

19:25Rod Palmer government. And I think that you probably understand and come for you come from such a compliant country. And Canadians, they

19:38Rod Palmer it's they really value their right to be compliant, and they don't want that to be taken away from them. And so there's a lot of people up there who are very worried that if they get annexed by The United States and become the fifty first state, that their right of compliance

19:59Rod Palmer would be, you know, potentially threatened. And there's some people who they just they want the right to be noncompliant, or at least they want if they're gonna be compliant, if a government is compliant as well. Then in The United States, we don't have enough of regulatory clarity to know if

20:19Rod Palmer that paradigm exists or what paradigm is coming. So is it is it scary to you that you might be absorbed into a political system that lacks

20:34The Broken Ruler regulatory clarity. And how do you feel about the regulatory clarity in Canada? You know, when you guys asked me to come on here, obviously, I took it at the as an honor that it is, and I kinda knew that this was going to come up. You know? I'm, you know, I'm one of your big Canadian fans, and, you know, I interact with you guys all the time. And I know that's in the news right now. Americans are you know, they're they're very eager to know what Canadians think about becoming potentially the fifty first state. So I so I knew this was gonna come up. Now the compliance compliance is always an issue. Right? People should be allowed to comply if they choose to comply. Right?

21:14The Broken Ruler And and I and I think it's it's going to be hard for some Canadians if it so happens that we become the fifty first state. I think we're going many of the Canadians will go the way of the California style of compliance or the New York state level of compliance. I don't think everybody in Canada is ready for the Texas level of compliance. You know? There might be some some out there. You know? Like, in Alberta, there might be some people that that are ready for that, but not everybody. Steve Barber. Steve Barber is excited about that. He's ready. He's ready. Like, he's he's ready. Like,

21:48The Broken Ruler you know, he's been counting his coal. You know? Like, he he's he's ready.

21:52Rod Palmer Play lick and plaid. He is ready to live the Dallas Texas life. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, plate

21:59The Broken Ruler yeah. Oh, yeah. Plate already has a spare cast iron pan, like, an even bigger cast iron pan to cook his egg. Oh, yeah. Like Yeah. Tariff free Tariff free. Midwest American steak every day. Cheaper steak. Yeah. Yeah. No tax. Like, lowers lower taxes. Man, it's gonna it's gonna be great for some people. Don't. Yeah. I I'm torn with the whole fifty first state thing.

22:24The Broken Ruler You know? I like Dunkin' Donuts, and I don't really like Tim Hortons. So on that, that's a major plus for me. Like, if I trading out Tim Hortons for for for Dunkin', that that's that's that's a win.

22:39Rod Palmer Is that gonna get you, you know, the Canadian compliant version of death threats

22:45The Broken Ruler for saying that when people in Canada hear that? It might. It might. You know? But sometimes you just gotta put your name on it. You know? You just gotta you gotta own it. You know, I'm I'm bullish Dunkin' Donuts, and I'm I'm bearish on Tim Hortons. You know? There's that, and there there's also you know how hard it is to get Marlboro cigarettes in Canada? Do you have any idea?

23:08The Broken Ruler No. No. No. It's it's really hard. I haven't heard that. It's really, really hard to get Marlboro cigarettes. Even KYC cigarettes do you get up there? We we have players. We got something called players. We got something you know, we got we got these Canadian brand cigarettes. And and our KYC cigarettes have, like, a lot of weird messaging on them, you know, on the cigarette themselves. I'm with the American cigarettes, you you have a little bit of messaging on the on the package. Well, up here, up here, we have the messaging on the cigarette itself. Interesting. Yeah. And what it It's a big deal. It'll be a big change. It'll be a big change if we go to if we become a part of the states.

23:46Rod Palmer What is the what what are taxes like on cigarettes? And more broadly, how what is the situation with people, your your peers right now trying to afford taxes in Canada? Are you worried about having to afford taxes in The United States, or would you rather have the tax system of Canada? We're concerned about that.

24:06The Broken Ruler You know, we we already are pretty taxed pretty high up here, and and we don't know what's going to happen. You know? Our dollar is also weak. Right? So, like, we we you know what? Canada doesn't even have a tether. The Canadian dollar is not worthy of a tether.

24:24Rod Palmer So we're kinda worried that if we have no They even have they even have some for the European countries,

24:29The Broken Ruler but not the Canadian dollar. Yeah. Are we going to have to pay taxes on top of our taxes now? Like, are if if we become the fifty first state, are we still going to have to pay Canadian taxes and then, like, an extra US tax? People are concerned.

24:44Rod Palmer Do you do you think that it would make it easier for you to get Tether on Tron?

24:49The Broken Ruler I hope so.

24:50Richard Greaser I hope so. I think you would be paying your US federal government taxes, and then you would be paying your provincial taxes. But I don't think you'd be paying Canadian government

25:04Rod Palmer taxes. And you would and you wouldn't have to, pay pay any more taxes to the Queen of England. So that we would put a stop to that.

25:12The Broken Ruler Yep. But then we'd have to relearn about the, you know, kilometers and miles and pounds and kilograms. Like, that's gonna take a lot of time. That's a hidden tax. Well, actually, that's that's a great segue because

25:26Rod Palmer that would be a really good opportunity for, you know, thermodynamically sound Canadians, if you wanna call them that, to maybe they wanted to come to The United States. Maybe they were ready. They want to live in Texas. They now they'll have that opportunity

25:42Rod Palmer and with that opportunity, they will they can come and teach Americans how to use the metric system. We're not gonna stop using miles per hour or Fahrenheit, But, you

25:55Rod Palmer know, you know, weeds becoming legal almost everywhere. Like, people are gonna be able to use the metric system for their drugs or for something that, you know, their beef or something for for Bitcoin. But you've also done that. You've been an ambassador for the English language, and you had an opportunity to see what

26:19Rod Palmer the cigarette industry and what the smoking experience was like on the, you know, the eastern culture.

26:26The Broken Ruler Yeah. Can you talk more about that experience? Because it's very interesting. It is. Yeah. That's something that I was talking to the guys before we, we started rolling here about how I might be the only guest that the Bitcoin Bugle has ever had that actually worked in a cigarette factory. So, like, a while ago now, fifteen years ago, I worked in South Korea in the HR department of, Philip Morris factory.

26:52The Broken Ruler So I saw I saw firsthand, you know, literally how the, you know, how the sausage is made. I was I was right there. You know, I was working h HR. Like, I was a diversity hire because they needed to hire a white guy. So, I was a diversity hire at a South Korean cigarette factory.

27:10The Broken Ruler And and and, you know, you realize that everywhere you go, people smoke the same. Right? It doesn't matter what color your skin is or what language you speak. You smoke one cigarette, one puff at a time. You know, every everybody lights one up at a time. That's true. And you know what?

27:28Rod Palmer There was very

27:29Richard Greaser Go ahead. Sorry. There's a handful of people that are super hardcore that smoke multiple cigarettes at a time, and they they tend to be Asian from what I've seen. Well, they go extra sometimes. Right? Yep. You know?

27:41The Broken Ruler So say you watch it's spelling bees or or things like that. You know? It might be the the parents push them a little bit harder. You know? Like It's no it is no secret that

27:54Rod Palmer Asia, especially East Asia, is one of the most productive, you know, labor forces, most productive countries, growth, like, their ability to build magnifica magnificent city, magnificent cities and monuments. And here it takes us like twenty years to build a bridge

28:14Rod Palmer from, you know, one side of Baltimore to the other. And who smokes more cigarette? Who smokes more cigarette there? You see a Chinese person or an Asian person, they're smoking a pack a day. And, you know, I just think the correlation, is, you know, there between that productivity and that sitter at intake. You know, it's it's worth noting.

28:33The Broken Ruler Correlation is not causation, but it's definitely worth noting. And and I'd like to see, you know, maybe there could be, you know, an open SaaS grant into looking into this. Right. Yeah. That's actually a good point. There's

28:46Rod Palmer a lot of really important, things that we talk about on Bitcoin podcasts and a lot of people try to kind of make something sound more scientific or say that correlation causation whatever, but

28:60Rod Palmer that's, you know, that's just it's it's good to to talk about things that are worth noting. Yeah. You know, it I I don't have proof, but it's worth noting. Yeah. And that's just what I that's what I think is the best value you get from Bitcoin podcast. So a lot of things that are worth noting and noticing.

29:18The Broken Ruler Well, you and you're right. I noticed the same thing. I lived there. Like, I I saw I saw it myself. I saw how much the people smoke there, and I saw how productive they were. And I'm I'm not gonna sit here and say that one led to the other, but, there definitely is correlation. But I was really taken aback at the humanity of it. We all smoke cigarettes the same way. Right? The end It doesn't matter if you're a billionaire or a pleb. It doesn't matter if you're a billionaire or a pleb. It doesn't matter if you're six feet tall or you're four feet tall. We all smoke cigarettes the same way.

29:51Rod Palmer Right. And not only did you work at a cigarette factory so the culture in a cigarette factory is inherently going to be different than a normie factory, but you worked in the HR department. Yeah. And I think if, you know, I don't know what your experience like is like in your day to day job now and what the HR department culture is like at your job now,

30:16Rod Palmer But I have a feeling that we're in a smoking culture, in a smoking factory. HR was actually maybe something that, was a great experience.

30:27The Broken Ruler It was a great experience, but I'm I'm gonna be straight up with you, Rod. I'm a man of the people. Right? So while I was working in the HR department, I spent most of my time with the with the plebs, with the cigarette smokers, like, on the factory floor. Like, my office was not where the regular HR offices were. My office was literally right next to where the parliament cigarettes were. You, Deb. It's easy.

30:54Rod Palmer I think too many HR people, they they don't understand that they're basically cops. They are the cops policing behavior at work. And

31:06Rod Palmer you think about the problems with our inner cities, it's the cops just show up and shoot people and they don't they don't the good cops when the communities were safe, they were in the communities. They were amongst the people that they were policing. They were learning about their lives and and talking to to families. And and and so when there was dispute, it could be easily, peacefully, and mutually beneficial for everybody involved. But but now the HR departments, they just sit up in their high offices

31:38Rod Palmer and isolated from everybody and they find out that you shared an offensive meme and they don't even know that you listen to Bitcoin podcast. They don't understand that you, you know, you're on Bitcoin Twitter and that, like, these types of things are just not, you know, offensive because we're so much more intellectual than these normies and we understand the nuance.

32:00Rod Palmer But they don't know that about us, so we just get fired from work. And it's it's it causes too many conflicts. It it says order breaks down at work when the HR ladies,

32:13The Broken Ruler you know, it's there was too much like cops. It's frustrating because of all the people who have time to put in the forty hours of listening to Bitcoin podcast, you'd have to think that the HR ladies are at the top of the list who actually have the time. Mhmm. But they are the ones that are doing it the least. I mean, they probably listen to, like, a Peter McCormick podcast every once in a while, but that's about it. Because they have fiat authority. So why you know, they're not incentivized

32:38Rod Palmer to listen to or follow an ideology that does not respect fiat authority.

32:44Richard Greaser Yep. I think part of the reason why is there's just not there there's no Bitcoin podcast for HR professionals. Right? Like, there's a blue collar Bitcoin podcast. There's a blue collar podcast. There's there's all these different niche

33:03Richard Greaser podcast, but there's nothing for meme policers and and and language policers and people that yell at you for telling your coworkers that they're hot.

33:16Rod Palmer You know, stupid shit like that. Yeah. There's no there's no podcast for nags. There's no podcast for, hall monitors.

33:25The Broken Ruler There's no podcast for teachers' pets. You know what I mean? We Yeah. You know who we need we need to get on on this is fundamentals. He's making podcasts for everything. Yeah. He's he's how many podcasts does he have going on right now? He can do one more. He can do the Karen Bitcoin podcast.

33:41Rod Palmer Right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you think about it. It's like, they're just Bitcoin is not something that attracts the, the recessed tattletale or the the snitch or,

33:55Rod Palmer you know, like I said, the the hall monitor or the person that raises their hand and reminds the teacher that homework was due after the class is about to end. Those people just think don't they just don't understand Bitcoin. But they but Bitcoin would that they do need it there because people like that usually are very worried about being able to afford their taxes. So you would think that they're at least they're gonna come soon. So they're gonna need podcasts. So I think that there is a lot of people in Bitcoin who like to they pretend, like I said, they they pretend to listen to forty hours per week. They pretend to be noncompliant. They pretend to be based, but they're not. And they constantly want to

34:42Rod Palmer to to tattletale or to, you know, do one of those those actions to snitch on somebody, to tag somebody in a limb, all them as hot mean when you're just, you know, not trying to harass her. You're just trying to express that you think she's hot. And, you know, those people need to make up the podcasts for the people who are left behind.

35:02The Broken Ruler This is a real opportunity. Like, I hope somebody's listening to this and is thinking to to themselves, like, oh my god. Like, this is it. Like, there's a lot of us that in the Bitcoin community that are are wondering how we can contribute to the Bitcoin community a little bit more. You know? Like, some of us organize meetups and some of us, you know, we we maybe we we we do a podcast or we do TikTok videos. But, you know, a guy like me, I'm I'm not that active. You know, I I just I host my meetup. That's about it. I I come on podcast every once in a while. But I'm listening to this, and I'm getting inspired. Like, I wanna know the the Bitcoin Tattletale podcast.

35:38Rod Palmer Yeah. Well, here's the thing. You, you know, you are one of the people who I think could best articulate not the why. We we articulate the why you should listen to forty hours, and we give you facts and we and we just point out to you these examples of how forty hours can improve your life. But you

36:00Rod Palmer can demonstrate it. You're you mean, you could be doing your podcast while lifting weights, shoveling snow, crunching numbers, mowing the lawn. You you can kind of be like that David Goggins who

36:16Rod Palmer kind of whips people into shape and says, this is how you do it. This is take action. Wake up at 05:00 in the morning and start listening to Bitcoin podcast when you're lifting, you know, doing deadlifts in your basement. Yeah. You can be the yeah. You could be yeah. Do a a a cold plunge. Listen to a Bitcoin podcast. It makes the makes the cold plunge go fast. Yeah. Go by faster. I could do it in Me and pies just like Yeah. Just pushing each other to listen to listen to one more hour. Listen to one more hour. That's yeah. That's good. Yeah. Like, you know, you broke your leg. Good. Yeah. I didn't have time to sit in the hospital, ER waiting room and listen to Bitcoin podcasts. Yeah.

36:56Richard Greaser So out of curiosity, what years were you over in South Korea?

37:03The Broken Ruler The early two thousands to 2011 with some time, you know, back and forth. So in those in those ten, twelve years, like, I spent seven years there. Very cool.

37:16Rod Palmer So you so you were in South Korea potentially when, North Koreans started to be OG Bitcoiners around 2011. Mhmm. Yeah. Did you could you, yeah, could you ever thought about that? Like, some of the some of the earliest people to to to, to go on the Bitcoin standard were, you know, just right up the hill for me. Yeah. I never thought about till right now, but that's that's true.

37:44The Broken Ruler You know, that that that's completely true.

37:47Richard Greaser So I know there's a tenuous relationship between the West and North Korea and South Korea and North Korea. With you you must be very familiar with the South Korean culture. You probably listen to a lot of k pop. Why do you think the Western media ecosystem, specifically Podkoff, has failed to recognize Bitcoin or North Korea

38:15Richard Greaser as being the first nation state to go on a Bitcoin standard.

38:19The Broken Ruler But Podkoff don't do a very good job at diversity, equity, and inclusion. You know, the the the they see, oh, Koreans, North Koreans. Oh, so they're gonna dismiss them right away. Polankov, we know. Like, they

38:34Rod Palmer they Are you suggesting they're white, you know, fashion white supremacists or male patriarchy, you know, all the stuff that liberals hate? I'm not saying it.

38:46The Broken Ruler I'm not saying it, but correlation, causation, there's something there.

38:51Rod Palmer Sure. Okay. So maybe that's why they they neglected North Korea. Right? Do you think that it's do you think it's purely because the attractive white American Bitcoin podcasters, make the most money? How are the most valuable sponsorships?

39:06The Broken Ruler It's true. Right? I yeah. Maybe. Maybe. Right? They get they're going they're going after Robert Breedlove and Preston Pish,

39:15Rod Palmer and they're neglecting, like, you know, the the the North Koreans. That's interesting. I mean, I know that there is, like, this anti Asian bias because of, you know, Marathon based sponsor a lot of things. So, you know, like Asia, Bitname, you know, the Chinese minors, like, they they just seem to not like them very much. They're just so they're just kind of, yeah, they're just kind of

39:39Rod Palmer discriminatory against Asian podcasters. It's I mean, even, I mean, who's the who's the jewel? Who's the commander of Bitcoin in Asia right now? It's Dylan LeClaire. They put him in a proxy position to kind of be the the orange pill governor

39:55Rod Palmer of Japan. Because they didn't even they didn't even let a Japanese person do that. Yep.

40:01Richard Greaser It's it's like the new form of colonialism. Like Right.

40:06Rod Palmer Joe Nakamoto is, like, the, you know, the guy who spreads the news in the global South.

40:12Richard Greaser Mhmm. Like, we have we do have an Asian Bitcoin podcaster, Laura Shin, and she's just been mocked and ridiculed.

40:21Rod Palmer Exactly. Exactly. Nobody everybody finding uses her as a punchline Mhmm. And doesn't respect her credentials

40:31Richard Greaser as, you know, a credentialed journal. Yeah. Like, Michael Saylor's been a big part of that. Like, he was very demeaning to her in mansplaining Bitcoin to her. Isn't she an Ethereum person too? Yeah. So maybe that's why. You know, like, you have to give minorities a pass. Right? If she's, like, the only Asian Bitcoin podcaster, you have to give her a pass.

40:54Rod Palmer Cool. I mean, you know, they give, like, a lot of people passes, like, Gap Mallers. Right? Like, he works very closely with Tether, which is, you know, who what are they using on Tiktron and Ethereum? So, yeah, this whole

41:06Richard Greaser this is just a puzzle I've been trying to put together, and I I think we need to challenge the larger ecosystem to recognize North Korea. Many of them don't know the history of North Korea. They don't know that the the Kim dynasty, you know, hailing back from, you know, the the war hero Kim Il sung to

41:30Richard Greaser the birth of Kim Jong il on Mount Paektu to his son, Kim Jong il and then Kim Jong il. They don't they don't know the history of this dynasty,

41:46Richard Greaser the low time preference that they have, and they're all hyper focused on Bukele. It's it's a shame because I feel like North Korea like, Kim Jong Un, if he went to the Bitcoin conference, can you imagine how bullish that would be? How much NGE there would be?

42:05The Broken Ruler We gotta get Pete Rizzo to into Pyongyang. Mhmm. That should be, like, one of the things That's a great for 2021.

42:12Rod Palmer Great great idea, honestly. We need to send an emissary Yeah. From PodConte to to base it like Richard Nixon he met with, with Mao

42:26Rod Palmer on the Great Wall. And we need to send Pete to go meet with Yep. So, you know, nor Kim Jong Un's, like, main Bitcoin historian. He's whoever the Pete Rizzo of North Korea is Yep. We need to have them meet and there needs to be, you know, at least an initial Bitcoin podcast that they record together. Yeah. And I think the relationship would build out from there. I mean, Danny Knowles could have the the North Korean Pete Rizzo on at after that point. It could be a you know, we could probably get a permit to get fountain up there I mean, especially if you could,

43:01Rod Palmer you know hide the podcast you're listening to, it'd be much safer for North Koreans to listen to Bitcoin podcast that way. But yeah, I think it is Then that's a great idea. I mean, this is why, you know, we this is why we listen to Bitcoin podcast because we just had an idea pop like that. Then you said, let's send Pete to North Korea. Yeah. And boom.

43:23The Broken Ruler Well, we got Bitcoin $20.25 is in Las Vegas. But as far as I'm concerned, 2026 has not been determined yet.

43:32Rod Palmer Oh, sure. Is it is, it's gonna be Gaza. Gaza. Oh, god. Well, 2027.

43:36The Broken Ruler Let's do 2027

43:37Rod Palmer in Pyongyang. Perfect. Perfect. I yeah. They're gonna need I mean, they're gonna need that time because they got rid of all their chairs, as you know, in North Korea. But when the Bitcoin cod excuse me, Bitcoin pod PodComp conference It's North Korea if they're gonna need shares. Mhmm. Yeah.

43:57Richard Greaser I mean, what I foresee like, because I believe strongly in the reunification of Korea as one nation, and I think

44:08Richard Greaser many of the people there locally also believe strongly in that on both sides. And I think the way to to really start moving that direction is for them to start a Bitcoin podcast on the 38th Parallel Yep. To have a North and South Korean. Huge. That'd be huge.

44:29Rod Palmer And then it it it could be a studio. They can do you could they could watch something in the the Genesis podcast. And they could create that as a studio that North and South Koreans could schedule time to come and use that to talk to each other and have a Bitcoin podcast with each other. And they could do that one by one as the podcast phenomenon grew.

44:52The Broken Ruler It already exists. There's already a building right there that where the armistice was signed back in 1952. Right? '52? Was it '52? Right. Where where they signed the the peace treaty. The building is still there, and there's still guards from both sides protecting the the side. So we could put a Bitcoin podcaster in that building and build a studio in that building.

45:16Rod Palmer You, one by one, the Korean from each side would podcast together Yep. Until North and South Korea's incentives were realigned Yep. And the, you know, the border would cease to matter. I mean, once everybody is a libertarian Bitcoin podcaster, they don't believe in borders anymore. So who why who's

45:39Rod Palmer gonna guard the borders are not gonna do it. It's not it's not gonna make sense. And it's it'll you know, that that's how you reunify that country is one podcast of time. And the, one of the things we, I think, should do at the Bugle, Richard, is one of us should probably create a k pop song.

45:60Rod Palmer A k pop song to let the Korean Bitcoiners know that the intellectual Silk Road side of Bitcoin in America and in the West is ready to, is ready to engage.

46:14The Broken Ruler Yep. Podkomp may have let them down, but the bugle is still there.

46:20Rod Palmer Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So, I I think it's probably time to get into the boost. Richard, do you want to let, let Boomer know the, the process and we're doing

46:33Richard Greaser here. Yep. So I before we go into the booth, I ask every guest two questions, and I think they're very, very important questions. So the first one, I think we talked about it. I can't remember if we were recording or not. The first question is, did you listen to the last episode of behind the podcast?

46:53The Broken Ruler I swear to god I did. I just don't remember. Because the one the one with Mars was so good that that's the one that stuck in my brain. And the one with Sly was so good and fundamentals. So I did listen. I swear to god.

47:06Richard Greaser Did did you know that Mars is secretly bankrolling the bugle behind the scenes with his, all the money he's making driving a forklift around. Not surprised. He's Mhmm. He's he's our, like, our shadow financier. He's our version of USAID,

47:27The Broken Ruler Mars Spitz bars. So Mars Spitz Bars is to the bugle what tether is to Swan?

47:33Rod Palmer Mhmm. Exactly. Except for Mars would not rock us. Yeah.

47:41Richard Greaser Yeah. What what the CIA is to, Bitcoin magazine now. The second question is, are you Jewish? No. Are you okay with not being Jewish, or do you wish you were Jewish?

47:59The Broken Ruler I'm perfectly okay with not being Jewish. I swear to god, like like, I'm from a place where there were no Jewish people at all. I I I don't think I'd ever met a Jewish person until I went to university. Mhmm. But that is, you know

48:11Rod Palmer Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you right. You you you didn't you had to yeah. You didn't. Just I didn't get up on Saturday and drive an hour to go to the bank. So you obviously didn't live, you know, in a town with with Jews, but you get to college. Right? You get to university. Yeah. I I had a very similar very similar experience.

48:29Richard Greaser Did did you feel like growing up without any Jews around you that, like, there was, like, an absence of, like, good accountants and comedians and and podcasters

48:41Rod Palmer and and newspaper writers. Good podcast, no good movies coming from your area either. No good movies. I noticed that. No good movies. Very good.

48:49Richard Greaser Yeah. Let's get into the fountain booth. So our last episode was with Frank Korva, the legendary journalist, and we were discussing fixing the CIA's incentives, the first boost of our show. Alright. Like, on the on the episode, we talked a lot about USAID. We talked about Bitcoin magazine.

49:10Richard Greaser We talked about Lynn Alden's hot. We talked about the Gaza conference. It was, we covered a lot of ground in that episode. But the first boost of the show let me actually do this. This is better. First boost of the show is from late stage huddle for 10,000 sats who says, thanks to Oscar Mary for supplying the auto rewind function in Fountain. I used to think this was a glitch, but now I know this must be AI implemented

49:40Richard Greaser under the hood to ensure that it automatically rewinds the most important portions of my bit favorite Bitcoin podcast when it knows I was too focused staring at Lynn Alden's ear on what Bitcoin did episode cover page.

49:57Rod Palmer We've all been there. So Oh, yeah. I mean, there's I can't I can't tell you how many podcasts I just forgot fifteen minutes of because I saw Lynn Alden's picture on, you know, when I was scrolling for the next one. Mhmm. She is very dreamy, I will say. Yeah. I talked to somebody who told me that, they got distracted seeing a,

50:18Rod Palmer video of Lynn Alden on their Twitter timeline, and it caused them to to paste the wrong Bitcoin address into a transaction. So they sent some sats to, you know, a phantom address because the guy it's almost like getting distracted by a pretty woman and me crashing a car. Oh, one thing,

50:36Richard Greaser I I think this is pretty standard at being a public servant in Canada, boomer. I'm pretty sure that you're supposed to do acknowledgments

50:48Rod Palmer to the tribal lands in which Land acknowledgments. Yeah. Land acknowledgments.

50:54Richard Greaser Did we did we wanna do land acknowledgments before we continue any further?

51:01The Broken Ruler But you're supposed to do land acknowledgments at the beginning. I I don't know if you do them at the end. Like, you know, is that If you start a Bitcoin podcast, would you begin

51:10Rod Palmer your episodes with the land acknowledgment?

51:12Richard Greaser But you have to. Sure. Okay. Yeah. Like, of course. Well I I think the Canadian Bitcoin podcasters don't do it. I I think because it would like, this is an honest an honest mistake. We forgot to do it at the beginning. So I think we should do it before we continue any further.

51:30The Broken Ruler So I I would on behalf of the my my good friends here at the Bugle, I just want to acknowledge that we are on the unceded land of the Anunnaki tribe and, that, we we we respect

51:43Rod Palmer them and their sacrifices. Yeah. One of the things we did early in this podcast is we we did a land acknowledgment at the beginning of an episode, but we did a land acknowledgement to The US Dollar because we've been and, you know, we predicted that Bitcoin had already won back in the summertime. So we did land acknowledgement for the US dollar. And I think

52:06Rod Palmer maybe that it's time to start doing that more broadly because people are really catching on now that Bitcoin has already won. So it's like the colonial colonializing the economic system

52:19Rod Palmer and we're taking it from a a dying,

52:22Richard Greaser you know, manifest destiny. So it's time to acknowledge it. Sir, are you gonna keep on rambling, or are you gonna do a land acknowledgment, Rod, or do you want me to do mine?

52:32Rod Palmer Oh, I didn't know we're all three doing them. Oh, yeah. We're

52:35Richard Greaser we we have to show respect

52:38Rod Palmer here. Sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. Alright.

52:41Richard Greaser I wanna do a an acknowledgment to Kalpash, who owns the seven eleven, which is downstairs. He

52:52Richard Greaser hails from Mumbai, India, and he came with his family. And we are I am currently in the Beagle studio residing on Indian land, and I just wanna acknowledge him

53:07Richard Greaser and his, his tribe and all of his family members that work with him at the seven Eleven dumpsters. Well, I'm Rod Palmer, and, I would like to acknowledge

53:18Rod Palmer the Aztec Mayan and other Latino BIPOCs who

53:25Rod Palmer used to live on this land, but is now, you know, in Texas, 20 acres for, you know, 2 Bitcoin. It's cheap. And it's all because we stole it from the Incas, the Mayans, and the Aztecs, and the Hispanics. And it's good. It just acknowledging the, we I've just stand on blaze soil. Yeah.

53:50Richard Greaser I I also wanna acknowledge the super smoking hot b b l, Veronica that was in the, the room next door, and she actually got deported recently.

54:05The Broken Ruler That's heartbreaking.

54:07Rod Palmer I was told that the thick Latinas could stay. Well, unfortunately, the Some of the ice guys yeah. Some of the ice guys are really they they don't like the the big booty Latinas. They are white in the, you know, in the sneakers, so to speak.

54:23Richard Greaser Mhmm. They don't think when Alden is hot. They just they haven't been orange pilled yet. If they were orange pilled, they would leave the PBLs alone.

54:31The Broken Ruler Do you think more people would be, like, Lyn Alden pilled if Lyn Alden did a scene, like, in Basic Instinct? You know that scene in Basic Instinct when Sharon Stone is, like, being interrogated and she opens her legs? Like, do you think more people would be Lynn Alden pilled if Lynn Alden did a similar thing but with her ear? Well,

54:49Richard Greaser I think the thing about Lynn Alden is she's doing something impressive right now. She she's really like this this type of Atlas figure just shrugging the world above her head in the sense that she is going around redefining beauty standards. And

55:10Richard Greaser in a world that's so about like, you've got the lair and booties. You've got Iggy Azalea pumping meme coins. You've got the Hawke Tour girl talking about blowjobs and rug pulling people. Lyn Alden

55:26The Broken Ruler She's dropping signal.

55:27Richard Greaser Yeah. She's dropping signal. And and that's part of the reason why, you know, she's so hot is because she's not trying to leverage, you know, her figure or these different aspects about her in any sort of sexual manner. She's just going out there, just spitting fire, molten hot lava,

55:50Richard Greaser and I would say that's, like, that's incredibly hot, and that's very different than a lot of these other, Bitcoin women. Like, she's not like Isabella posting pictures of herself or videos of herself sitting in a hot tub in a bikini.

56:06Richard Greaser She's not like, what's her name? Laura Halpern. You know who I'm talking about? The boob No. Laya. Laya Halpern. The, fake tits. She's a funny talker.

56:17The Broken Ruler Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think she's pot shop sponsored for sure. Right? She's like the she's like the Aubrey Strobel

56:23Rod Palmer of London. Mhmm.

56:26Richard Greaser But she's worse than Aubrey Strobel. Like, I think Aubrey Strobel, like, she she knows she's hot, and she's using her asset to to promote the adoption of Bitcoin. But Leah is just like

56:37Rod Palmer a a full blown Well, Aubrey used to be a shit coiner. Aubrey Strobel is like the prodigal hot babe of Bitcoin. She kinda learned learned that Bitcoin only is the way to go, and she came back.

56:51Richard Greaser Yeah. I respect that. But Lynn Alden is just in a league of her own. Yeah. She's the wonder woman

56:57Rod Palmer of Bitcoin for sure.

56:59Richard Greaser Yep. Well, thank you guys for doing the land acknowledgements. I think that we should probably do that more throughout the probably at the beginning of the next The next one is anonymous.

57:11Rod Palmer They boosted 5,000 sats. Erin Van Verum has a girlfriend. I can't believe it. Is there any proof of that? Buy love, Michael Sailor in a gay way.

57:25Rod Palmer I don't remember talking about Aaron except for that Frank liked working with them or something, but I don't I don't remember the girlfriend port. I think yeah. I mean,

57:37Richard Greaser Boomer, do you have a girlfriend? Do you are you married? Do you have a wife? Yeah. I got a girlfriend. I got a girlfriend. Mhmm. Yeah.

57:43The Broken Ruler She's good. Like, she, like, she's she understands the Bitcoin stuff pretty good. She thinks, like, Lightning is a shit coin. That's when you know you gotta keep There you go. That's when you know you gotta keep her when when she's if it's not base layer, it's a shit coin.

57:57Rod Palmer Base. That's the definition of a base girlfriend. Based. Yes. Very based.

58:02Richard Greaser So did you teach her about Bitcoin, or does she know about it before?

58:10The Broken Ruler That's, she was a little she was she had dipped her toes into Bitcoin before we got together, but,

58:21The Broken Ruler we kinda I I definitely pushed her along, but she she had already gotten herself to the door on her own. So she basically

58:30Rod Palmer was like, I need to learn about and buy Bitcoin so I can afford my taxes. And then she met you, and she's like, alright. This motherfucker is listening to forty hours per week. I just have to be able to use his node if I to use a transaction.

58:42The Broken Ruler Oh, she yeah. Yeah. A little bit. Like, it's a way I I think, like, I'm a filter for the podcast. So when I send her a text in the morning, you know, just to tell her how ask her how she's doing, and then I send her three or four podcasts that I'm listening to, right, that morning, then she knows throughout the day, like, that that I've I've already pre filtered

59:03Rod Palmer the best Bitcoin podcast for her for a day. Like, she has a tough time getting to forty hours. She she can do she probably does twenty hours, but, you know That's what it's like. It's like doing push ups on your knees. It's twenty hours is for girls. That's hard. Right? And yeah. No. I think a lot of people think that I'm trying to be controlling when I screen my girlfriend's Bitcoin podcast. I'm not trying to be controlling. I'm trying to curate the best signal that I think that she's going to enjoy and learn the most of learn the most from.

59:36The Broken Ruler Yeah. And, like, I I'm not jealous. Like, I'll send her a Robert Breedlove podcast if I think that that's the best podcast for her to listen to. Like, I'm I'm not insecure. Oh, yeah.

59:48Rod Palmer Yeah. And that's important. That is important. You do not want to be the guy who's, like, screaming and not letting her see Dennis Porter's announcements. Yeah. This and then Dennis Porter's interviews. Like, just because he's got an orange billing aura that just screams sexuality doesn't mean your girlfriend wouldn't benefit from the signal that he, you know, provides. Totally. So the next one, provides you rich. Well,

1:00:14Richard Greaser I just wanna say that's cool that your girlfriends did to it, that that you really were the catalyst to do that. I think that's really the Bushido of Bitcoin that you're living out right there. And it would be interesting to do a podcast on that

1:00:32Richard Greaser process because I think there's a lot of orange shells out there that are really frustrated. They wanna get a potential girlfriend into Bitcoin, but

1:00:46Richard Greaser they're struggling with it. And so understanding the tactics that you used to have a good relationship like you have,

1:00:55The Broken Ruler I think would be helpful for a lot of these guys. I think that we we need to get further along in the bull market for that to make sense, because we need the bull market to happen to get the girlfriends. And then once they have the girlfriends, then it's getting them orange pills. You don't wanna put you don't wanna put the the carriage before the horse. Yep. I mean,

1:01:15Richard Greaser I I think that's that sounds pretty reasonable to me. It it's kinda like what you were saying earlier about, like, you you smoke cigarettes one puff at a time. Like, you gotta take the relationship one step at a time. The next boost is from Dave 40 HPW who says for 2,100

1:01:35Richard Greaser sets who says v for v, tether is BTC, LAIH, macro n g u, Frank knows. I guess Frank knows.

1:01:46Rod Palmer Right. No. Frank yeah. Frank understood. He understands he's Simon. He's he's working in Washington DC right now. He just knows he's gotta be locked in forty hours per week. He it's it's out of checklist. It's it's not something that he has time to think about. He has to build it into the routine for him to, you know, report the news. He's one of the most important reporters, in Bitcoin right now because he's close to the first Bitcoin president. So there's just a lot of regulatory clarity that we're waiting on. You know? Frank Nels?

1:02:20Richard Greaser Definitely. Well, yeah. I mean, there was a lot of interesting buzzwords in that one. I I really hope that Donald Trump does an executive order declaring Lin Alden as hot. That would be the,

1:02:32Rod Palmer that would definitely really, like, a a a turning point in our culture where we're finally getting rid of sexism and air you know, all that. DEI and then all the sexism on the other side, we're getting rid of it and we're just going to kind of commemorate that by

1:02:55Richard Greaser making it official. Boomer, are you on Noister?

1:02:58The Broken Ruler Yeah. I'm on Noister.

1:03:00Rod Palmer I tagged you guys a couple of days ago. This morning, maybe. Maybe it was just right. I I'm I'm usually the one on Noister. So I saw that. Yeah. I know. Yeah. It's hard to use Noister on a typewriter.

1:03:12The Broken Ruler Yes.

1:03:13Rod Palmer It's just hard to use Noister.

1:03:15The Broken Ruler I I understand. Like, my name's Boomer for a reason. It's not because I'm old. Well,

1:03:20Richard Greaser I think something that's really important for people to understand is the revolution will not have good UX,

1:03:28Rod Palmer and it's gonna be hard. Yeah. It's gonna be for, that it you gotta be able to put that effort in to do forty hours per week. You gotta be able to put that effort in to learn how to use a cold guard. You gotta learn how to use Electrum Server. Like, the UX here is terrible. Lightning the UX is terrible. But that's why there's BTC sessions tutorials. That is why there is Bitcoin podcast. You just have to be willing to put in the work. Proof of work. Yeah.

1:03:59Rod Palmer You know, you know, the last two is Boomerino and pies. We talked about them. 2,100 sets, value for value, mushroom flex. Let's fucking go. And then another one, a thousand sats. Yo. Mind blown. Value for value, mushroom, wax. He was probably jackhammering

1:04:18Rod Palmer out on some job site in the negative temperatures, but he was still listening to Bitcoin podcasts. He just had, you know, get the right right earphones, keep your ears warm while you're listening to signal. How many hours do you think Pies puts in a week? I I think it might physicist might want to study this because I think he's somehow slowing down time for himself

1:04:44Rod Palmer and listening to more hours than are in a day. And I'm not even accounting for putting it on 1.5 speed. I'm saying I don't think I think Pius has to listen Yeah. On, you know, normal speed. He still gets his time in by thinking, you know, this is my guess. But he's doing it. So A real Chad. He's doing it. Well, Boomer, thank you for coming on. It was an honor to hear that it was an honor for you to be on our show.

1:05:14Rod Palmer What, what would you like to tell Bugle listeners? And I think you are qualified to, you know, give us some advice. What advice would you give to the Bugle? Advice to the bugle? Man, like, I'm I'm I wouldn't ask if it if if it wasn't if if we didn't if we didn't want to know. We're talking we're talking to a public server right now. Right. We're

1:05:40Rod Palmer we are honored to have feedback from a public servant

1:05:46The Broken Ruler right now. I'm I'm very impressed with the initiatives that you've made in the DEI space with with your the new contributions. You've you've added a little bit more diversity in into your into your your crew over there, and it it hasn't gone unnoticed. Well, thank you. Thank you very much. Boom,

1:06:07Rod Palmer where can people find you?

1:06:09The Broken Ruler Or do you, you know which group chats do you like to be contacted in? Jeez. I'm not much of a group chat person. I'm also not much of a Twitter spaces person either. Like, I just don't have time for that. Like, you Right. If you're putting in sixty hours of listening to Bitcoin podcast, you have to make sacrifices. Like, you can't do it. And unfortunately, Twitter spaces and group chats are two of the things that I've kind of had to sacrifice to in order to get my my forty hours in.

1:06:34Rod Palmer Every time I even step foot into a space is the first thing I just wanna say is,

1:06:40Richard Greaser obviously, you people are you got podcast hours to listen to. Stop wasting time in here and go listen to your forty hours. Because right now, you're it is very obvious that you're not listening. Yeah. Mhmm. Yep. I was doing the Swan spaces, you know, last year, two years ago when Greg Foss was still around. But when Greg Foss left, I'm out. I I feel like Twitter spaces, it's it's kinda like stumbling across it's like the mall. It's like a shopping mall. So, like, the shopping malls were where kids like to cut school. They like to be truant. They like to go run around in Hot Topic and get their ears pierced to Claire's.

1:07:17Rod Palmer It's ten. You know? Yep. It's ten. You try to go to Sbarro to do the slice. Mhmm. And some some 10 bully is throwing, you know, a banana peel trying to strip you up. Yeah.

1:07:29Richard Greaser Like, it's it's like, Bitcoin podcasts are like the NFL. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's the biggest stage. It's the important stage. It's where the top level talent goes.

1:07:41The Broken Ruler And Twitter spaces is like the Canadian Football League. Yeah. Yeah. That And I would Yeah. I do. The best you can do in the CFL and in Twitter spaces is get your reps in so that you're ready to go to the major leagues when your time comes.

1:07:56Rod Palmer Yeah. And also remember the the tools available at your disposal. If you have a hard time, like, dealing with the fast pace of evolution of Bitcoin memes? Because it can be a lot to keep up with. You can use tools like Noister to stay engaged with a community with a much, much slower evolution of, you know, memes and how and and do memes, good content. You you can just kind of go at your own pace. Facts.

1:08:23Rod Palmer Thanks for having me, guys.