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Me? I have a nose for nuts. Lots of them. The big crunchy kind.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-8" data-t="8">That's why I'm out of my bird.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-10" data-t="10">How about this Mars bars?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-12">0:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-12" data-t="12">The all new Mars bars is finally here with memes that are nuttier than ever. Now, the brand once deemed too offensive for even the most noncompliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-22" data-t="22">pleb spaces</span> <span class="cue" id="t-23" data-t="23">is on a new mission, a mission of contrition.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-26" data-t="26">Don't miss the Mars bars summer apology tour sponsored by the Bugle on Twitter and at a Bitcoin conference near you.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-34">0:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-34" data-t="34">Are we recording? Yeah, man. We're recording. Let me make sure I got my vape here. Alright. We're loaded up. I'm ready to go.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-41" data-t="41">But, yeah, as I was just saying, if you want me to start here is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-45" data-t="45">is realizing that we need to make Karen's great again.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-48" data-t="48">It's a huge societal problem that that, we've been demonizing him. I was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-53" data-t="53">I was at</span> <span class="cue" id="t-54" data-t="54">the Starbucks today, local Starbucks here,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-58">0:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-58" data-t="58">and, the barista was taking my order with her headphones in, which is, like, now a common occurrence, of course. I don't know if you guys ever had any issues like this, but I was just thinking to myself. I was like, man, I just need a Karen right now, like because, like, I'm not gonna say anything. But if we had Karen's back in full force,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-75" data-t="75">you know, customer service</span> <span class="cue" id="t-77" data-t="77">wouldn't be what it is today.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-80" data-t="80">And that we did this to ourselves,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-82" data-t="82">you know? Like, we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-84" data-t="84">made our bed.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-86">1:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-86" data-t="86">We demonized them, and now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-89" data-t="89">this is the world we live in.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-91">1:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-91" data-t="91">Yeah. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-92">1:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-92" data-t="92">Right?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-93">1:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-93" data-t="93">Yeah. I yeah. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-95" data-t="95">we've talked into Mars, okay, and we're we've been into intros here a little bit because I wanna tie it back</span> <span class="cue" id="t-102" data-t="102">back to back to you on Bitcoin Twitter, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-105" data-t="105">what we did in the past few years</span> <span class="cue" id="t-108" data-t="108">is we weren't polite to we weren't polite enough to Karens. We didn't respect Karens. We didn't value Karens.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-114" data-t="114">And we kinda weirded them out. We we censored them. We canceled the canceled Karens.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-120">1:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-120" data-t="120">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-121" data-t="121">the side effect of canceling Karens</span> <span class="cue" id="t-123" data-t="123">was just, you know, people just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-127" data-t="127">the generosity. There's nobody to ask for the manager. There's nobody to take responsibility and we missed the Karens. And it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-134" data-t="134">it's just so obvious now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-136" data-t="136">And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-137">2:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-137" data-t="137">Mars, like, I was talk we were talking before</span> <span class="cue" id="t-141" data-t="141">we started recording</span> <span class="cue" id="t-142" data-t="142">is that, like, the the maxis used to be kinda like the Karens on Bitcoin Twitter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-147" data-t="147">calling out scammers and and and shit like that. And I it made me realize</span> <span class="cue" id="t-151" data-t="151">that the ultimate Karens</span> <span class="cue" id="t-154" data-t="154">of Bitcoin Twitter the past three years was triple elite memes, and you're not affiliated with triple elite memes anymore.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-160">2:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-160" data-t="160">But I think a lot of our listeners will know you because you came up. We're talking to Vee Mars,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-166" data-t="166">the guy who was just cranking out memes and calling out scammers, and finally got some of the biggest</span> <span class="cue" id="t-173" data-t="173">the biggest</span> <span class="cue" id="t-174" data-t="174">debts of of exposing scammers in 2023.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-179" data-t="179">So how are you doing, Mars, and what do you think about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-182" data-t="182">that</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-183">3:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-183" data-t="183">comparison? That that's a fair comparison.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-186" data-t="186">You know?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-188" data-t="188">Especially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-190" data-t="190">expecting unreasonable results,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-193" data-t="193">was, you know, in the triple eight memes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-196" data-t="196">ethos, I would say.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-199">3:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-199" data-t="199">Putting putting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-201" data-t="201">a lot of people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-202" data-t="202">under the spotlight,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-205" data-t="205">when we ourselves,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-208" data-t="208">were basement dwellers and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-210" data-t="210">not doing money, much of anything, in Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-213">3:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-213" data-t="213">It was really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-215" data-t="215">like a a Karen</span> <span class="cue" id="t-216" data-t="216">sort of vibe that we had.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-219" data-t="219">And I think it maybe served some purpose for sure, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-223" data-t="223">at the same time,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-224" data-t="224">it's not around currently in Bitcoin Twitter. And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-228">3:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-228" data-t="228">maybe it needs to be brought back. You know? Maybe it needs to be brought back.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-232">3:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-232" data-t="232">Well, you know, I take exception</span> <span class="cue" id="t-235" data-t="235">to you to the way you used Basement Dweller because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-240" data-t="240">Bitcoin podcasters,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-241" data-t="241">sometimes we have our podcast. It's kind of the modern man cave</span> <span class="cue" id="t-245" data-t="245">in our basements, and we spend at least forty hours a week down there listening to podcasts. We're podcasting ourselves,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-251" data-t="251">and we're very critical</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-253">4:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-253" data-t="253">of, you know, fiat and the government and central banks, and we're expose and we're exposing feds.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-259" data-t="259">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-260" data-t="260">you know, just because we're basement dwellers doesn't mean that we can't, you know, we can't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-266" data-t="266">have an opinion.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-268">4:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-268" data-t="268">Yeah. That we don't have a voice too. You know? Just because most important voice. Yeah. I've been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-274" data-t="274">unemployed for the last year. Doesn't mean</span> <span class="cue" id="t-277" data-t="277">that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-278" data-t="278">I don't have a lived experience</span> <span class="cue" id="t-279" data-t="279">and that it's worth</span> <span class="cue" id="t-281" data-t="281">mentioning and putting out there into the Twitter ethos. I I hear you. So, yeah, Basement Dwellers unite,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-287">4:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-287" data-t="287">let's bring it back.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-289">4:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-289" data-t="289">I think one of the most powerful parts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-292" data-t="292">about being a Basement Dweller</span> <span class="cue" id="t-294" data-t="294">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-296" data-t="296">you sit at the crossroads</span> <span class="cue" id="t-298" data-t="298">of being able to aggregate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-300" data-t="300">some of the most interesting people and their experiences.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-303">5:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-303" data-t="303">Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-304" data-t="304">Because if you're at home all day and you're looking at your your typewriter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-310" data-t="310">on Twitter and you're listening to Bitcoin podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-313" data-t="313">you in a day could cover a lot of ground. So you're you're living through</span> <span class="cue" id="t-318" data-t="318">some of Dennis Porter's best announcements,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-321" data-t="321">some of</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-322">5:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-322" data-t="322">Robert Breedlove's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-324" data-t="324">smartest revelations,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-326" data-t="326">some of Lynn Alden's macro predictions.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-329" data-t="329">Mhmm. Take that altogether,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-332" data-t="332">and it just blows away</span> <span class="cue" id="t-334" data-t="334">a lot of these other people that are doing things like</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-337">5:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-337" data-t="337">going through the car wash</span> <span class="cue" id="t-340" data-t="340">and listening to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-342" data-t="342">pop music</span> <span class="cue" id="t-344" data-t="344">and listening to the politics podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-346" data-t="346">they're just they're not aggregating as much information. So I would argue that sometimes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-354" data-t="354">the basement dweller, the orange shell,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-356">5:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-356" data-t="356">is superiorly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-358" data-t="358">equipped at seeing the world than those that are going out and experiencing things.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-364">6:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-364" data-t="364">Well and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-365" data-t="365">not to mention, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-368" data-t="368">basement dwellers are the ones that, are willing to go down the rabbit hole. You know? Because they're already</span> <span class="cue" id="t-373" data-t="373">six feet under. Right? They're already in the basement.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-377" data-t="377">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-378" data-t="378">they go down any rabbit hole they want. And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-381">6:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-381" data-t="381">as a result,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-383" data-t="383">they find truth,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-384" data-t="384">and they're able to shed light. They're they're the ones with the cork board with the yarns going across a million different ways saying you gotta take a look at this and putting on the tinfoil hats. And it's a it's a critical role for society</span> <span class="cue" id="t-399" data-t="399">in my opinion.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-401">6:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-401" data-t="401">Yeah. And, you know, to take it back to the Karens,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-405" data-t="405">one of the things I I told you today, you know, off podcast was that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-413" data-t="413">2025</span> <span class="cue" id="t-414" data-t="414">is gonna be a big year</span> <span class="cue" id="t-415" data-t="415">for Karens</span> <span class="cue" id="t-417" data-t="417">and one of the reasons I know this and one of the reasons I've seen this coming is I'm following the trends I see</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-423">7:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-423" data-t="423">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-424" data-t="424">OpenAI put out a report that women</span> <span class="cue" id="t-428" data-t="428">are constantly and disproportionately oath they're apologizing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-432" data-t="432">to ChatGPT.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-433" data-t="433">And ChatGPT messes up, like the women say I'm sorry and they're very polite, they say thank you and they're very cordial</span> <span class="cue" id="t-439" data-t="439">chat GPT and it they the study proved that women are now more polite to AI</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-444">7:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-444" data-t="444">than they are to their husbands.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-446" data-t="446">And it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-448" data-t="448">that's kind of like kind of like a care and emerging, I think, like a leading indicator.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-453" data-t="453">Because I think why are why are women more polite to AI than to their husbands is because AI does its job.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-460" data-t="460">And so,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-461" data-t="461">because AI does its job, Karens are gonna start being not very polite</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-466">7:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-466" data-t="466">The people who don't do their jobs. So if you're out there and you're being lazy at work or you're being lazy on the job,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-471" data-t="471">if Karen is gonna come and and point it out to you, and you're gonna be, like, have the motivation to, like, get it together. 100%.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-479">7:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-479" data-t="479">And the Karens of society that we've been demonizing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-482" data-t="482">they saw the inertia of the problem</span> <span class="cue" id="t-485" data-t="485">long before</span> <span class="cue" id="t-486" data-t="486">anyone else.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-488" data-t="488">And I kinda feel like, you know, they were</span> <span class="cue" id="t-491" data-t="491">struggling</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-493">8:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-493" data-t="493">to to fight</span> <span class="cue" id="t-494" data-t="494">the decay of society,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-496" data-t="496">that they saw</span> <span class="cue" id="t-497" data-t="497">where,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-498" data-t="498">you know, restaurant orders weren't coming out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-501" data-t="501">as they were ordered</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-503">8:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-503" data-t="503">or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-504" data-t="504">dry cleaning made you wait an extra ten minutes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-508" data-t="508">And they saw it. They saw it all on the wall. They had that But it's like dweller vibe. You know? But they it is it's a very motherly,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-517">8:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-517" data-t="517">thing to do because what she's essentially telling you is, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-520" data-t="520">these Karens know that in the coming</span> <span class="cue" id="t-523" data-t="523">technological revolution with AI,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-526" data-t="526">you're going to have to be faster, more efficient</span> <span class="cue" id="t-529" data-t="529">if you wanna survive. So she's they're trying to encourage</span> <span class="cue" id="t-532" data-t="532">people to</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-534">8:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-534" data-t="534">to step their game up. We gotta bring them back. Can we get a so we have a lot of known</span> <span class="cue" id="t-540" data-t="540">native English speaking listeners.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-542" data-t="542">I think it would be good to define</span> <span class="cue" id="t-544" data-t="544">what a Karen is before we continue on a whole lot further on this topic.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-550" data-t="550">Do either of you feel strongly about defining it?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-554">9:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-554" data-t="554">Well, my take is, Karen is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-558" data-t="558">someone with, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-561" data-t="561">streaks in her hair,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-564" data-t="564">sharp bangs,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-566">9:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-566" data-t="566">a poof in the back. The same haircut as miss Hobblemont.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-570" data-t="570">Yeah. Very similar haircut to miss Hobblemont</span> <span class="cue" id="t-573" data-t="573">is not a Karen, but she looks exactly like</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-576">9:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-576" data-t="576">And I grew up,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-578" data-t="578">believing that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-579" data-t="579">for women, the higher the hair, the closer to God. You know, you see a lot of Mormons,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-584" data-t="584">that have the same sort of vibe.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-587" data-t="587">And so the Karen,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-589" data-t="589">expects excellent service</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-591">9:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-591" data-t="591">and does stand for Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-595" data-t="595">She doesn't stand for bullshit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-597" data-t="597">You know? And she'll call your shit out, and she'll ask for store credit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-601" data-t="601">in no time flat.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-603" data-t="603">And that's that's the Karens of consumerism.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-606" data-t="606">That's that's my definition. How about you, Rod? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I I think you do,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-611">10:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-611" data-t="611">you described it very well. I would just I would say a good example would be like a Michelle Weekly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-618" data-t="618">It's like a is a it's for sure a Karen. Like, who I mean, there's I've gotta be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-623" data-t="623">forgetting a few, especially you're in the spaces,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-628" data-t="628">area a lot more. Do there any good Karens other than Michelle? Oh, I'd have to say humble warrior is a fantastic</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-635">10:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-635" data-t="635">Karen.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-636" data-t="636">You know, expects his,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-638" data-t="638">excellence,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-640" data-t="640">is trying to bring the toxicity back, to Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-645" data-t="645">to protect those that are specifically bringing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-648" data-t="648">value to the Bitcoin community, those that are, you know, launching projects and monetizing.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-655">10:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-655" data-t="655">She she doesn't want us to stand for bullshit. I mean, I could go on and on with this topic, but I'll just stop there for now. Another one, yeah, another one is a famous podcaster,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-663">11:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-663" data-t="663">Megan Kelly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-665" data-t="665">So she used to be on Fox News and NBC and MSNBC and MSNBC, all those,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-670" data-t="670">there's been a too. Total babe. Yeah. Mhmm. Exactly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-674" data-t="674">Karens can be babes for sure. Yeah. There's crossover.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-678">11:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-678" data-t="678">You know? It used to be a gen x or boomer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-682" data-t="682">woman that was, you know, forty pounds overweight, but Karens,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-686">11:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-686" data-t="686">crossover to all aspects of Right. There's a lot of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-689" data-t="689">there's a lot of there's a lot of millennial what what we did not have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-695" data-t="695">in the past generation, the first wave Karens,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-698" data-t="698">we didn't have very many millennials.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-700" data-t="700">But in this wave of Karens, we're gonna have way more millennial Karens.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-705">11:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-705" data-t="705">So is that like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-707">11:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-707" data-t="707">like, a pendulum effect or, like, a a rubber band? I think it's a general I think it's just a generational thing. I think that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-715" data-t="715">millennials were</span> <span class="cue" id="t-717" data-t="717">kind of a safe space generation,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-719" data-t="719">and they had like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-721" data-t="721">the hero's journey that some of the millennials</span> <span class="cue" id="t-724" data-t="724">have will be finding</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-726">12:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-726" data-t="726">and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-727">12:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-727" data-t="727">becoming the the inner tear in that they truly are. Yeah. Well and I guess my question was, like, more like when when they wake up,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-735" data-t="735">is it gonna be like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-737" data-t="737">a roaring army to the likes that we've never seen before?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-741" data-t="741">You know, these millennial</span> <span class="cue" id="t-743" data-t="743">Karens finally entering the prime of their life realizing that they've been</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-747">12:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-747" data-t="747">suppressed. I think we're gonna see I think we're gonna see just an explosion</span> <span class="cue" id="t-753" data-t="753">of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-754" data-t="754">care, like a millennial care and content creators.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-757" data-t="757">It's gonna be like, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-759" data-t="759">with the Libs of TikTok, it's gonna be Karens of TikTok.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-762" data-t="762">It's gonna be Karen podcasts. It's gonna be it's gonna be an explosion</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-767">12:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-767" data-t="767">in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-768" data-t="768">Kieran Conknecht. That's, like, that's how you will see it coming. I mean, I'm excited for it, to be honest.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-774" data-t="774">It's gonna be great. So, yeah. I mean, there's gonna be people out there we all know, and maybe it will be one of us.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-780" data-t="780">We're gonna want to simp some Karens. We're gonna wanna simp a can. I mean, I'll simp a Karen any day of the week,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-786">13:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-786" data-t="786">you know, any day of the week. There's there's something special</span> <span class="cue" id="t-791" data-t="791">there that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-792" data-t="792">you know, it's just it's an exciting it's an exciting thing to support Karen for sure.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-798">13:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-798" data-t="798">Right. Like, people used to simply these like, the women on Instagram or or some you know, they were hot or maybe an OnlyFans girl,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-805" data-t="805">but now they're gonna start simping Karens.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-808" data-t="808">I mean, there's gonna be a a trend. It's gonna push a shift. What are what are the negative consequences</span> <span class="cue" id="t-815" data-t="815">of this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-816" data-t="816">like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-818" data-t="818">bull market and current debt and this bull market and current podcasts.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-823">13:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-823" data-t="823">I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-824" data-t="824">that it's going to provide a lot of cover</span> <span class="cue" id="t-828" data-t="828">for Feds</span> <span class="cue" id="t-830" data-t="830">because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-831" data-t="831">feds</span> <span class="cue" id="t-832" data-t="832">are Karens.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-835">13:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-835" data-t="835">Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-837">13:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-837" data-t="837">I mean, that's if you agree with that. Feds can be hot.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-841">14:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-841" data-t="841">Feds are hot, dude. They're quite often hot. That's that's the way the feds work, you know, especially in, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-848" data-t="848">a male dominated,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-849" data-t="849">dissident,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-851" data-t="851">anti state,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-853" data-t="853">anti government,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-854" data-t="854">anti Wall Street,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-855">14:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-855" data-t="855">anti Silicon Valley,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-858" data-t="858">tax evasion advocating,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-860" data-t="860">dissident group that's attached to the most powerful financial instrument of all time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-866" data-t="866">when it's dominated by men.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-869" data-t="869">The way that I would infiltrate that if I was a fed, at least from the social stack of things, right, because Bitcoin is a technology stack. It's a financial stack, but it's also a social movement. It's a social stack. The way I would infiltrate that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-883" data-t="883">would be</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-886">14:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-886" data-t="886">to bring in some pretty hot Karens.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-889" data-t="889">You know?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-890" data-t="890">Rise to the top.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-892" data-t="892">Get the simps to follow.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-894" data-t="894">Get the simp army army on board.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-897" data-t="897">Control shit. I mean, that I mean, I should write the playbook for them. I'm thinking, like, if they're not doing this, they should be doing it for sure. Yeah. I'd like to hear more about</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-906">15:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-906" data-t="906">the Fed's playbook</span> <span class="cue" id="t-908" data-t="908">and what you think that is.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-911">15:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-911" data-t="911">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-912" data-t="912">so that's the thing is, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-914" data-t="914">you know, a lot of people I talk on Bitcoin Twitter don't think that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-918" data-t="918">the feds are on Bitcoin Twitter. And the main,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-922" data-t="922">explanation for that is that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-925" data-t="925">we're not big enough to care.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-927">15:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-927" data-t="927">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-929" data-t="929">as I was just saying, I think it's it's an incredibly powerful,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-934" data-t="934">anti state dissident social movement, grassroots movement. And if,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-939" data-t="939">if you were to, you know, do a little bit of research on this, it's quite obvious that the feds</span> <span class="cue" id="t-945" data-t="945">infiltrate all the dissident movements.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-948" data-t="948">You know, they they infiltrated,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-951">15:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-951" data-t="951">January 6, which was just a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-954" data-t="954">flash in the pan. They infiltrated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-956" data-t="956">Occupy Wall Street.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-958" data-t="958">They've infiltrated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-960" data-t="960">the hacker group Anonymous. They've infiltrated,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-965" data-t="965">far more meaningless</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-967">16:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-967" data-t="967">movements like even the Keystone Pipeline</span> <span class="cue" id="t-970" data-t="970">protest that was happening,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-972" data-t="972">before</span> <span class="cue" id="t-973" data-t="973">before COVID.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-975" data-t="975">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-977" data-t="977">when I get some perspective that this is what they do to dissident movements, they infiltrate it,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-984">16:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-984" data-t="984">which there's proof that they did with all of these,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-987" data-t="987">then it's a no brainer that they're infiltrating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-992" data-t="992">Bitcoin Twitter on on the social side of things for sure.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-996" data-t="996">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-997" data-t="997">from what I understand or what I believe,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1001" data-t="1001">they're they're here to,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1003">16:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1003" data-t="1003">to rise within,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1005" data-t="1005">to become leaders of it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1007" data-t="1007">to be your friend,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1009" data-t="1009">to organize</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1010" data-t="1010">the the social movement. I think a lot for a few years, at least, on Bitcoin Twitter, my perception of feds</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1017" data-t="1017">was that they were here to cause chaos or to troll it or try to fracture the community, to try to break it up within, and I think that's a completely wrong take.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1028">17:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1028" data-t="1028">If you look at,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1029" data-t="1029">what they did with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1032" data-t="1032">the Occupy Wall Street movement and the hacker group anonymous is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1037" data-t="1037">they turned the leader,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1039" data-t="1039">name a guy named Sabu.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1041" data-t="1041">Sabu,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1042">17:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1042" data-t="1042">hacked,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1044" data-t="1044">a private contracting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1047" data-t="1047">US intelligence contracting company called Stratfor</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1050" data-t="1050">in,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1052" data-t="1052">was it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1053" data-t="1053">January 2011?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1055">17:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1055" data-t="1055">And they got him for it, and they turned him fed,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1059" data-t="1059">quite literally,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1060" data-t="1060">in a twenty four hour period, and they rereleased him into the wild. And at the time, he was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1066" data-t="1066">the the top guy of, the hacker group anonymous.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1069" data-t="1069">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1070" data-t="1070">his first,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1071">17:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1071" data-t="1071">actions as a FBI informant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1074" data-t="1074">was to quite literally</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1076" data-t="1076">consolidate the group chats that he was involved with.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1079" data-t="1079">He consolidated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1080" data-t="1080">all the group chats. He got all of his different groups together under one roof, and then he convinced all of them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1087" data-t="1087">to,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1088">18:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1088" data-t="1088">take the fight to the streets and to join occupy Wall Street.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1092" data-t="1092">And so to me, that speaks</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1094" data-t="1094">to the fact that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1096" data-t="1096">feds,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1097" data-t="1097">aren't here to break it up within, but to co opt it and to control</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1101" data-t="1101">the the dissident movements</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1103">18:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1103" data-t="1103">with specific goals, which we can get into.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1107" data-t="1107">But, yeah, that's that's my perspective.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1110">18:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1110" data-t="1110">Yeah. I'm not is so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1113" data-t="1113">how does PodCon fit into this? So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1117" data-t="1117">I'm kind of seeing some overlap</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1120" data-t="1120">between Occupy Wall Street and Podkom. Right? So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1124" data-t="1124">Bitcoin's kind of a Internet related phenomenon.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1128" data-t="1128">Right?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1129">18:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1129" data-t="1129">And then all of a sudden, this organization comes on, and they try to marry</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1134" data-t="1134">this online</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1136" data-t="1136">phenomenon with meeting in person,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1139" data-t="1139">essentially,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1140" data-t="1140">at these conferences.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1142" data-t="1142">Right?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1144">19:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1144" data-t="1144">Like, OPSEC is thrown out the window.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1148" data-t="1148">KYC is promoted.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1149">19:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1149" data-t="1149">It's a it's a honeypot technique. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1153" data-t="1153">And it's also a social co cohesion technique in my opinion. Right? Because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1159" data-t="1159">if you are a fed that is organizing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1162" data-t="1162">or leading,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1164" data-t="1164">a dissident online movement, the way you, get even closer to these people is you meet them in person.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1170" data-t="1170">You party with them, you drink with them, go out to eat with them,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1174">19:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1174" data-t="1174">do all the things with them. And so if that's what Podkoff is doing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1178" data-t="1178">major red flag, dude. Major red flag.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1181">19:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1181" data-t="1181">You play basketball with them.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1184">19:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1184" data-t="1184">Yeah. I mean, like, there's a there's a there's a conference this summer where you can go camping with your favorite Bitcoin podcaster, favorite Bitcoin influencer. It's like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1194" data-t="1194">you can basically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1196" data-t="1196">go to a cabin</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1198">19:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1198" data-t="1198">out in the middle of, like, an island off New Hampshire, and you could go camping with your favorite orange pilled fed. I mean, it sounds like a pretty good time, and that's the problem with it. But it I've gotta be honest. It sounds like a good old time. I still wanna go. You know? Sometimes I'm like, I gotta go to these conferences to see what the feds are doing, you know, because it's just too curious. It's just too hot. Problem. Right? Like, what we had you know, when when I we first met,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1222">20:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1222" data-t="1222">I was excited. I got I was able to finally,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1226" data-t="1226">talk to and meet</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1227" data-t="1227">the guy who, in my opinion,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1230" data-t="1230">has the best, like, sniffer nose for fads in all of the Bitcoin community.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1236" data-t="1236">You seem to kind of spot a FED from a mile away. It's like you're you're like the rain man of of finding Feds.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1244" data-t="1244">And so we had a lot of off off the record interviews as I'm a journalist. I'm a credential journalist.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1250">20:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1250" data-t="1250">I just wanted to interview off the record, and I and what I learned</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1254" data-t="1254">was what inspired me to write one of my biggest hit,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1259" data-t="1259">you know, songs, which is about,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1262" data-t="1262">fall in love with the Fed, and it talks about how we you talked about, yes, they do</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1268" data-t="1268">infiltrate,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1270" data-t="1270">these communities. And I could some of it is, like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1274">21:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1274" data-t="1274">all of it from the top, it is a, you know, a the government initiative.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1278" data-t="1278">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1279" data-t="1279">but other problem is through so many Bitcoin podcasts, the orange peeled a lot of Feds and they just naturally started to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1287" data-t="1287">find these podcasts and find like these</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1290" data-t="1290">everything that's advertised on podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1293" data-t="1293">and find these spaces,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1295">21:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1295" data-t="1295">follow them around, and then</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1297" data-t="1297">take that information back to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1299" data-t="1299">you know, the CIA.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1301" data-t="1301">And it's our own fault. The Orange built them. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1304">21:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1304" data-t="1304">Yeah. Because we want as many people to get into Bitcoin as possible. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1309" data-t="1309">And so it's a it's a inevitability that the feds are here and that they're understanding Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1317" data-t="1317">You know, they're in the game like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1319" data-t="1319">like y'all are. Right? And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1322">22:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1322" data-t="1322">How many people have an open lightning channel</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1324" data-t="1324">that they just one off in 2022</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1328" data-t="1328">when they set up their Umbrel node? How many people have a I mean, people will talk a big game on Twitter, and then they have a lightning channel open with seven feds. No, bro. I don't have it. I I'm not I'm not, like, accidentally</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1339">22:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1339" data-t="1339">fucking opening lightning channels with feds. It's like, dude, you did it willingly. Well, in the feds, they're like the goat at this game. Right? Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1348" data-t="1348">they aren't</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1349">22:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1349" data-t="1349">bad at what they do. Smart, and they're motivated. Like, they Exactly. When you are well, I learned Bitcoin. Like, it took me a long time before I was smart enough and had enough,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1358" data-t="1358">initiative</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1359" data-t="1359">to, like, learn how to use a hardware wallet or learn how to mine. Like, a lot of people, they don't even know how to spend their Bitcoin. They they they don't even, know how to consolidate their EJX. But Feds were motivated.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1371" data-t="1371">Feds feds know how to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1373" data-t="1373">fucking they know how to use cold card. They know how to use,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1376" data-t="1376">noncompliant</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1378">22:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1378" data-t="1378">self custody lightning. They know how to set up lightning nodes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1382" data-t="1382">They they set up group chats. Like, they it's they're just motivated and, like, they're smarter. And when you're like, I need to ask a question about Bitcoin, sometimes the only person who has a tutorial to help you use your wallet, it's a Fed.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1394">23:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1394" data-t="1394">It's a Fed. And then there are other you know, there's probably foreign actor feds too. So it's like, well, then do I work with the foreign actor feds to take out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1402" data-t="1402">the domestic feds and troll the domestic feds or not? It's a whole thing. You know, you gotta weigh your options. It's like how much how friendly do the feds</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1411" data-t="1411">do you wanna be?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1413">23:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1413" data-t="1413">It's a And it wants to be the guy who, like, has to tell his group chat that, hey, guys. I'm sorry. That sediment I had you all sign up for, that was run by a fed. Then you're gonna get everybody's gonna be pissed at you. You fucking call you think you you can be perfect on your privacy, and then one of your group chat friends just stuck in. You you think you can trust them, and then they hook you up with a fed and a fed fed them in. Yeah. And then they start calling you a simp and all that. You know? Like, look what you did, you simp. And it's like, yeah. I know.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1440">24:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1440" data-t="1440">I guess the best thing to do is just to own up to it. You know?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1444" data-t="1444">Just be honest and move on.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1446" data-t="1446">And it is what it is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1448" data-t="1448">I don't know.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1449">24:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1449" data-t="1449">How how did you develop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1451" data-t="1451">your sixth sense</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1453" data-t="1453">for smelling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1454" data-t="1454">of beds, sniffing them out? So, like, in the gay community,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1459" data-t="1459">you know, there's certain individuals, like, certain women,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1462" data-t="1462">certain gay men</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1464">24:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1464" data-t="1464">that can sniff out a gay person</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1466" data-t="1466">from a mile away,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1469" data-t="1469">and they call it gaydar.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1471" data-t="1471">So two questions. Like, how did you develop your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1474" data-t="1474">fed gaydar? And the second question is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1478" data-t="1478">what would you call</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1479">24:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1479" data-t="1479">that? Would you call it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1481" data-t="1481">your fed gaydar,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1483" data-t="1483">or is it something else?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1485">24:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1485" data-t="1485">Well, you know, don't they say that, like, those that have the best gaydar</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1490" data-t="1490">are gay dudes or repress</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1493" data-t="1493">gay dudes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1495" data-t="1495">And so, like, I don't know the answer to that question, but maybe it's, like, my inner fed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1500" data-t="1500">coming out.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1501" data-t="1501">You know? It's like</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1503">25:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1503" data-t="1503">some that's that's saying,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1505" data-t="1505">if you spot it, you got it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1507" data-t="1507">Or when you're criticizing someone,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1510" data-t="1510">you're really projecting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1512" data-t="1512">you know, your your inner self or insecurities</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1515" data-t="1515">onto them. And so</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1517">25:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1517" data-t="1517">maybe it's just my</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1520" data-t="1520">inner statist fed self</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1522">25:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1522" data-t="1522">that Right. And that's that's the ultimate that's the ultimate problem</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1527" data-t="1527">with this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1529" data-t="1529">you know, predicament we're in. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1532" data-t="1532">Is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1534" data-t="1534">you start to realize that you don't necessarily</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1537" data-t="1537">have to be</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1539">25:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1539" data-t="1539">an employee of the FBI or an employee of the CIA</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1542" data-t="1542">or an employee of the Sheriff's Department</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1544" data-t="1544">to be a fed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1546" data-t="1546">Because if it's somebody you have to think about that. Like, you have to if somebody like Mars,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1552" data-t="1552">fucking ghost of Mars could be a fed,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1555" data-t="1555">anybody could be a fed.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1556">25:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1556" data-t="1556">And it's like, you know what I mean? It's so it's like it's it's an emerge being a fed is an emergent property.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1563" data-t="1563">And if we all have an inner fed, but so sometimes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1568" data-t="1568">some people just don't know how to suppress it. I mean, it's the great,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1572">26:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1572" data-t="1572">struggle of every</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1575" data-t="1575">human. It's a human experience, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1578" data-t="1578">to identify as a fed and then to choose to either lean in or to lean out.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1583">26:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1583" data-t="1583">But it's health and it's healthy to be everybody,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1585" data-t="1585">every podcaster,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1588" data-t="1588">Every influencer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1590" data-t="1590">has to go through.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1593" data-t="1593">It's almost like a ritual of being called a fed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1596" data-t="1596">Yeah. You're gonna be called the fed eventually.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1598">26:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1598" data-t="1598">You have to end. Whether it's maybe they're just in a fucking meme gang. Somebody's gonna call you a Fed. Yeah. How how do you beat those allegations? Like, you've gotta look inward. You've gotta search your soul</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1610" data-t="1610">sometimes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1611" data-t="1611">or you just happen to you just have to get through it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1614">26:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1614" data-t="1614">And at least outwardly,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1616" data-t="1616">when you do be or when people start accusing you of being a fed,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1621" data-t="1621">you gotta lean into it. It's the only way.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1624" data-t="1624">You know? It's like Michelle Lee weekly when she we leaned into it, a few days ago. And it's like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1631" data-t="1631">props. Like, that's that's the move, and I respect her for that. It's like, if you're gonna be,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1637" data-t="1637">accused of being a fed, you might as well</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1640">27:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1640" data-t="1640">then call yourself</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1641" data-t="1641">a fed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1642" data-t="1642">It's the only way. Yeah. I think</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1645">27:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1645" data-t="1645">anybody who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1646" data-t="1646">has been around long enough</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1649" data-t="1649">can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1650" data-t="1650">start to tell</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1651" data-t="1651">the difference between a Fed and not a Fed for the most part because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1659" data-t="1659">the the Feds who are doing it for their job,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1663">27:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1663" data-t="1663">they're just trying to afford their taxes. They they don't have the passion. They're not listening to forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts a week. They're just doing enough to afford their taxes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1673" data-t="1673">But the people who are really, really, really with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1677" data-t="1677">the the just above and beyond,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1680" data-t="1680">if they're if they're leaning into being a fed,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1683" data-t="1683">it's obvious because it's like there'd be so much they're just so much better than the real feds.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1688" data-t="1688">It's like he has more potential than being a fed.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1691">28:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1691" data-t="1691">Yeah. I I hear you. And it's like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1694" data-t="1694">some of the fed you know, when the feds,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1697" data-t="1697">kinda cross the line, in my opinion, is like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1700" data-t="1700">and they start controlling the group chats,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1703" data-t="1703">or they start flexing the in group, out group dynamics of the community,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1709" data-t="1709">or they start gatekeeping.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1710">28:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1710" data-t="1710">You know? It's like when I start to desire</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1715" data-t="1715">those sorts of things, which I have in the past,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1718" data-t="1718">then I know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1719" data-t="1719">I'm too fed,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1720" data-t="1720">and I gotta get less fed. Right? And that's maybe where I'm at with, like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1725">28:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1725" data-t="1725">the whole perspective on this this sort of topic. Yeah. Sometimes you just gotta stop and appreciate the fact that Lynn Alden is hot. Just Exactly. Just slow down. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1735">28:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1735" data-t="1735">Yeah. Slow down. You know?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1737" data-t="1737">Smell the roses.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1739" data-t="1739">Lin Alden's hot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1742" data-t="1742">Smoke a cigarette. Smoke is well, I'm smoking a vape, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1746" data-t="1746">Richard can smoke a marble</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1748" data-t="1748">or whatever it is,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1751">29:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1751" data-t="1751">you know, and just enjoy that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1754" data-t="1754">you've got a lot.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1755">29:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1755" data-t="1755">I appreciate it. So I wanna bring up a topic.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1759" data-t="1759">So to me, it feels like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1761" data-t="1761">in some ways,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1763" data-t="1763">the feds are being very successful right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1766" data-t="1766">In some ways, it feels like they're falling apart</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1769" data-t="1769">and seriously failing.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1773">29:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1773" data-t="1773">Let me share this with you guys'</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1776" data-t="1776">screens. The Biden administration</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1779" data-t="1779">is essentially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1781" data-t="1781">attempting to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1783" data-t="1783">ban</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1784" data-t="1784">cigarettes.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1785">29:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1785" data-t="1785">I don't know if you guys have seen this. No. So he wants to reduce</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1790" data-t="1790">nicotine levels in cigarettes by 95%.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1793">29:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1793" data-t="1793">So just straight carcinogenics?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1796" data-t="1796">No,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1797" data-t="1797">no nicotine anymore?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1799">29:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1799" data-t="1799">Just straight carcinogens? Just use other filler, but it would be it would just make cigarettes. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1805" data-t="1805">it would make cigarettes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1807" data-t="1807">and take away all their quality, so like it would stop helping you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1811" data-t="1811">improve your critical thinking, it would stop helping you solve problems, help you help you overcome</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1817" data-t="1817">Feds, things like that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1819" data-t="1819">It would just</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1820">30:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1820" data-t="1820">it would just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1822" data-t="1822">take up your time. They just want to distract you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1826" data-t="1826">Having not, you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1828">30:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1828" data-t="1828">no nicotine cigarettes is just a distraction. Yeah. I mean, I think one of the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1833" data-t="1833">most important</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1835" data-t="1835">pillars of being able to discern</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1837" data-t="1837">reality</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1839" data-t="1839">in the world we live in is having the ability to smoke cigarettes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1843" data-t="1843">There's something,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1845">30:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1845" data-t="1845">you know, very spiritual</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1846" data-t="1846">and grounding</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1848" data-t="1848">about the process of smoking a Marlboro red.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1851" data-t="1851">It just improves your cognitive function and it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1855" data-t="1855">kills parasites, boosts your testosterone,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1858" data-t="1858">turns you into not being a pussy. And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1861">31:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1861" data-t="1861">what people need</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1862" data-t="1862">in an environment like this, in an adversarial mind</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1866" data-t="1866">or environment like this, is they need to not be pussies.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1870" data-t="1870">And cigarettes are one of the pillar stones</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1873" data-t="1873">of of which you can build on,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1876" data-t="1876">essentially.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1878">31:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1878" data-t="1878">So am I,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1879" data-t="1879">falling for the FedSCI app when I'm,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1882" data-t="1882">taking a hit of this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1885" data-t="1885">fifty milligram SaltNick vape right now? This,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1889" data-t="1889">strawberry farm cake</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1891" data-t="1891">flavored</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1891">31:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" data-t="1891">deliciousness?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1893">31:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1893" data-t="1893">I I would consider vaping</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1896" data-t="1896">to do smoking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1897" data-t="1897">kinda being like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1899" data-t="1899">pasteurized</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1900" data-t="1900">milk versus raw milk. So, like, you get some of the effects of drinking milk, but you take all the health benefits away,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1909">31:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1909" data-t="1909">essentially. You're making me rethink everything.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1912">31:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1912" data-t="1912">Yeah. I mean, like, I I guarantee that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1915" data-t="1915">babes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1916" data-t="1916">like, boost your estrogen.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1919" data-t="1919">It turns you into a pussy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1921" data-t="1921">Right?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1923">32:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1923" data-t="1923">I mean, think about it, Wade. When when</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1926" data-t="1926">I I have the you know, I've said before on record that, I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1930" data-t="1930">low testosterone</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1932" data-t="1932">leads to low interest rates, and I think that look at the height of vape,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1938" data-t="1938">popularity. It was, like, 2019,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1940" data-t="1940">2020.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1941">32:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1941" data-t="1941">There's just really low interest rates. And that's when, the popcorn lung</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1946">32:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1946" data-t="1946">epidemic was going on too. You know? So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1950" data-t="1950">coincidence?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1952">32:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1952" data-t="1952">Probably not. Yeah. Your cigarettes don't give you popcorn long. That's for sure. We're we're at a time</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1957">32:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1957" data-t="1957">where things are hard,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1959" data-t="1959">and we need strong men.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1961" data-t="1961">And strong men smoke cigarettes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1964" data-t="1964">and that's just a fact. We've seen that historically.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1967" data-t="1967">The</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1969" data-t="1969">great</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1970">32:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1970" data-t="1970">building of the American empire</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1972" data-t="1972">was done on the back of cigarette smokers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1976" data-t="1976">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1977" data-t="1977">Hard men</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1980">32:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1980" data-t="1980">need hard money</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1983" data-t="1983">and part of hard money</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1985" data-t="1985">is hard money is hard to spend and right now we need to be building and we need to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1992" data-t="1992">battling, and we need to be, fighting for and being strong. And we need</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1997" data-t="1997">it to be far for our wives to spend our money. Bitcoin Twitter,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2003">33:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2003" data-t="2003">it seems like we all yearn for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2006" data-t="2006">more women in the space,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2009" data-t="2009">not male leaders, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2010" data-t="2010">women. And I have this, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2013" data-t="2013">belief that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2015" data-t="2015">women are like the Internet alphas.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2019">33:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2019" data-t="2019">They reign superior online.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2022" data-t="2022">And they they command a control that can't be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2026" data-t="2026">competed with with women. So how do we reconcile that as a Bitcoin community where,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2032" data-t="2032">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2033" data-t="2033">do we ostracize the Internet alphas</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2036" data-t="2036">for the good of the Bitcoin community despite yearning for them, or do we let them in?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2042">34:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2042" data-t="2042">You know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2043" data-t="2043">letting them know that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2045" data-t="2045">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2047" data-t="2047">a woman with a a few 100,000 followers can change the world.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2051">34:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2051" data-t="2051">Yeah. It's it's really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2053" data-t="2053">it shows you the history repeats. You know, we're kind of having</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2057" data-t="2057">as as the United States government</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2060" data-t="2060">then kind of Western democracy did</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2063" data-t="2063">with the nineteenth amendment</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2065" data-t="2065">and what the consequences of that were</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2069">34:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2069" data-t="2069">on society.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2070" data-t="2070">It's kinda like Bitcoin Twitter's having a do we let</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2074" data-t="2074">the Karens in? Because once we do,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2079" data-t="2079">we may lose control of this but Bitcoin is for everyone, so how do we keep the Karens out? This is stuff that keeps me up at night, you know?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2087">34:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2087" data-t="2087">Keeps me up at night. I I think there's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2090">34:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2090" data-t="2090">you know, we had a really good interview</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2093" data-t="2093">with Jen or so. And so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2097" data-t="2097">I don't think Jen</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2098" data-t="2098">expressly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2099" data-t="2099">said that she's a feminist,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2101" data-t="2101">but I I would classify her as one.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2105">35:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2105" data-t="2105">And one of the things that we really discussed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2107" data-t="2107">is the gender wage gap</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2110" data-t="2110">when it comes to selling meme coins and ordinals.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2113" data-t="2113">Women,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2115" data-t="2115">like you said, are the Internet alphas.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2119" data-t="2119">They get so many more podcast listens</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2122">35:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2122" data-t="2122">than men. Men have to work a lot harder to get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2125" data-t="2125">podcast listens. They have to work a lot harder to sell meme coins.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2131" data-t="2131">There's a you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2133" data-t="2133">really, they have to work a lot harder to sell beat picks. That's for sure.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2138" data-t="2138">And I think there's two ways</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2141" data-t="2141">to deal or kinda cope with this coming</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2144">35:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2144" data-t="2144">wave of women coming into the space</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2147" data-t="2147">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2149" data-t="2149">either you have to be a beta</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2152" data-t="2152">and just get ran over by these women who are gonna be able to sell way more meme coins than you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2158" data-t="2158">or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2159" data-t="2159">you're gonna have to be an alpha</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2161">36:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2161" data-t="2161">and smoke cigarettes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2162" data-t="2162">and listen to more Bitcoin podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2165" data-t="2165">and read I'd Rand.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2168" data-t="2168">Those are your two choices.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2170" data-t="2170">And I I think the answer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2173" data-t="2173">you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2174">36:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2174" data-t="2174">this is one of the things that really bothers me</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2178" data-t="2178">about a lot of these weak people that exist</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2181" data-t="2181">in business and in journalism</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2183" data-t="2183">and all these other places,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2185" data-t="2185">is they try and gatekeep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2186" data-t="2186">They try to use the state</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2189">36:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2189" data-t="2189">as a way to, you know, regulate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2193" data-t="2193">certain things.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2195" data-t="2195">They try to use cultural subgroups.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2197" data-t="2197">You know? So, like, there's this trend</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2199" data-t="2199">essentially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2201" data-t="2201">on Twitter that I see a whole lot, which is men getting super pissed off</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2206">36:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2206" data-t="2206">and just calling women trans.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2208" data-t="2208">Have you seen this?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2210" data-t="2210">No. So I see it happen all the time where</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2213" data-t="2213">these men will get really insecure</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2216" data-t="2216">about the fact that they're betas</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2217" data-t="2217">and that a woman's being smarter or more based than them. And so they'll call</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2222">37:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2222" data-t="2222">them trans. Is this, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2225" data-t="2225">the latest iteration of, like, the incel</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2227" data-t="2227">community</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2228" data-t="2228">sort of thing or men's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2230" data-t="2230">rights?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2231" data-t="2231">And is this their latest incel? Who are these people? I think it's just I think it's just more</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2236">37:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2236" data-t="2236">of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2238" data-t="2238">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2239" data-t="2239">the people, they kinda have denial that they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2242" data-t="2242">they don't have as much influence</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2245" data-t="2245">as they would like to have. They don't have as much influence in their group chats. They don't have as much influence in spaces. They don't have as much influence in, you know, their the Twitter experience</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2256" data-t="2256">because they're always being outmaneuvered</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2259">37:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2259" data-t="2259">by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2260" data-t="2260">an alpha, like you said, like the women that control, like, these communities.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2264" data-t="2264">It's like no matter how good</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2267" data-t="2267">they think they understand macroeconomics,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2270" data-t="2270">nobody's gonna listen to them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2272" data-t="2272">and what their base case prediction is over Lin Alden, if Lin Alden,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2278">37:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2278" data-t="2278">you know, contradicts them. So they lash out and they they get really upset</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2284" data-t="2284">when the bugle posts a meme that says Linhalda is hot because it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2288" data-t="2288">it's like they don't want they can't they can't be smarter than me and hot because that's not fair.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2295" data-t="2295">Like, I shouldn't be this is this is why</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2298" data-t="2298">you know, I should be the alpha here, but this is the only reason I'm not. There's nothing I can do about it. Yeah. That's a very good summary. You see it a lot</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2306">38:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2306" data-t="2306">I kind of imagine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2307" data-t="2307">a lot of these people are people that think that they should be speaking at the conferences,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2312" data-t="2312">that think they should be doing these crazy meme</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2315">38:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2315" data-t="2315">coin. They think that they think that they should be the cool one on the core dev,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2319" data-t="2319">you know, main contributor.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2321">38:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2321" data-t="2321">Yeah. Like, they may they may have been a podcaster for, like, you know, three or four years</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2326" data-t="2326">at this point, or maybe they just started it up, and they saw Hawk two as</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2331" data-t="2331">success.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2333">38:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2333" data-t="2333">Well, I I feel</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2335" data-t="2335">for people like that too because, like, I got that in me. Like, do you know how jelly I was that I wasn't invited to that hundred k party?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2342" data-t="2342">You know? I heard there's a thousand people there. And I was like, you ain't inviting me?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2347" data-t="2347">And I just sat there all night just watching the live stream, which is it was riveting, just trying to figure out who was all there and why I wasn't included.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2355" data-t="2355">And so I got that. I feel that. I feel I feel the dudes out there that, like, you know, can't compete with Lynn Alden.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2362">39:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2362" data-t="2362">I hear you. And while you're watching that stream,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2366" data-t="2366">not only are you feeling the FOMO of not being there, but you're watching Isabella</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2372" data-t="2372">ask everybody their price predictions.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2375" data-t="2375">Like, how did that make you feel?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2377">39:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2377" data-t="2377">Like, why isn't she asking me?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2380">39:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2380" data-t="2380">You know? Right. Right. And and some people go as far when they get frustrated,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2386" data-t="2386">and they, you know, they'll create, like, an account with love is, you know, love is Bitcoin, and they'll pretend</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2391" data-t="2391">to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2392" data-t="2392">a hot blonde girl to get engagement and get the followers and the retweets that they thought they deserved, but they weren't getting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2400">39:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2400" data-t="2400">Yeah. But you know what? I respect the game there. I respect the game because this is HGX's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2405" data-t="2405">thing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2406" data-t="2406">You scale and then you pivot, and that's what that's what he was able to do. He scaled his account, and then he handed it over to an actual woman. He pivoted.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2416" data-t="2416">And now, you know, he's reached or they've reached or she's reached escape velocity.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2421" data-t="2421">And it's like, why didn't I think of that?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2424">40:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2424" data-t="2424">Right. He wasn't exploiting he wasn't exploiting women. He was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2428" data-t="2428">creating jobs for them.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2430">40:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2430" data-t="2430">He was catfish, a little bit catfish. You know, you fake it till you make it. You know, that's how it works. They sold it. They sold it. He he he created jobs for for these real women. Oh, contributing to the economy, even better.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2442">40:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2442" data-t="2442">So what do you think are some of the most important things</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2447" data-t="2447">for people to prepare for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2449" data-t="2449">going forward</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2450" data-t="2450">looking at this bull market?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2452">40:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2452" data-t="2452">What do you mean? What do you mean? Are you bullish like me that we're gonna reprice</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2456" data-t="2456">everything,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2458" data-t="2458">especially Canada</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2459" data-t="2459">and Tether USDT. I mean, Tether is not Tether's taking over. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2464" data-t="2464">I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2465" data-t="2465">it was crazy to watch</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2467">41:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2467" data-t="2467">El Salvador go from being orange pill Bitcoin country, and now I think Tether's probably gonna take over.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2473" data-t="2473">And I think they're building a Tether tower. They announced that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2477" data-t="2477">and the government just gave back. Okay. Yeah. They were said they're gonna give back 400,000,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2482" data-t="2482">Bitcoin to Bitfinex, which is announced out of the door. But, yeah,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2486" data-t="2486">they're probably gonna build a Telfort Tower, and it's gonna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2489" data-t="2489">overshadow Bitcoin Beach.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2491">41:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2491" data-t="2491">Yeah. I guess I I hear what you're saying now. I mean, my think my thoughts on all of it are,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2497" data-t="2497">that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2498" data-t="2498">the dollar's not going anywhere.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2503">41:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2503" data-t="2503">We're gonna make it stronger, in fact. We're making it stronger. That's like it. Like we said, you said you're a patriot. So you're are you excited about that?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2509">41:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2509" data-t="2509">You know, as long as I'm living in America and I owe Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2513" data-t="2513">whatever, and it's out of my control. But, the dollar's not collapsing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2518" data-t="2518">Fiat isn't going anywhere.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2521" data-t="2521">There's gonna be another big bear market with probably an 80%</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2525" data-t="2525">retracement.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2526" data-t="2526">Maybe we'll get lucky and it's less.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2528">42:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2528" data-t="2528">But that my perspective again is that, like, this time isn't different,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2533" data-t="2533">that, like, the trend is that there's cycles here. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2537" data-t="2537">And that we'll probably get to some ridiculously</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2540" data-t="2540">high number that I myself,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2542" data-t="2542">won't even know is the top and will be expecting even higher, and then we'll,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2546" data-t="2546">go into a bear for a while.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2548">42:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2548" data-t="2548">And a lot of the excitement,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2550" data-t="2550">around Bitcoin will,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2553" data-t="2553">will die off for a bit. Right? It's the way</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2556">42:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2556" data-t="2556">it goes. What do you think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2558" data-t="2558">will be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2559" data-t="2559">the hardest thing for Bitcoiners to accept</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2563" data-t="2563">and for some people to to get over</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2566" data-t="2566">in the next ten years when, you know, they have to accept that either the dollar's not gonna go down</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2573" data-t="2573">or swan's not gonna go down. Like, both of them are just gonna somehow keep going.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2577">42:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2577" data-t="2577">How do you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2579" data-t="2579">how do you think people are gonna, respond to that? Well, look. Shit coins don't die.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2584">43:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2584" data-t="2584">You know? I had to wake up to that fact. They don't die. Even the ones that go to zero still have some sort of tradable market,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2593" data-t="2593">and that that's that's the reality of it. So whether it's Swan</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2597" data-t="2597">or the dollar</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2598" data-t="2598">or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2599" data-t="2599">any of the crypto degeneracy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2603" data-t="2603">it's gonna be around for ten years. In fact, it's gonna be regulated</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2607">43:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2607" data-t="2607">and institutionalized</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2608" data-t="2608">in a way that we haven't seen before.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2611">43:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2611" data-t="2611">And I think that and I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2614" data-t="2614">one thing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2615" data-t="2615">that is our kind of a consolation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2618" data-t="2618">is I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2620" data-t="2620">the shitcoin problem is only gonna get worse in the next few years,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2625" data-t="2625">and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2625">43:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" data-t="2625">Shitcoin and scamming it's gonna just explode.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2629" data-t="2629">And this is why</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2631" data-t="2631">we need Karens. This is why we need to let the Karens in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2634" data-t="2634">to the Quinter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2636" data-t="2636">is because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2638" data-t="2638">there is one exception</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2639">43:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2639" data-t="2639">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2641" data-t="2641">the males, can they be alpha</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2645" data-t="2645">online?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2646" data-t="2646">And they can they can in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2648" data-t="2648">smaller communities because Corey Clipston is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2652" data-t="2652">the alpha Karen,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2654">44:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2654" data-t="2654">of Bitcoin Twitter. And without him, you know, he he doesn't tweet as much anymore. He has to go after the scammers and look what happens.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2661" data-t="2661">We need</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2663" data-t="2663">the alpha apex Karen back</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2666" data-t="2666">or we're going to in the future</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2668" data-t="2668">to to go after the Shit Queen scammers because</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2672">44:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2672" data-t="2672">it's gonna get bad. Yeah. And he had the hair. You know, he has the hair, so he had that going for him.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2678" data-t="2678">Yeah. We need a new leader,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2680" data-t="2680">right, to show us the way.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2683" data-t="2683">And Who who could be that next alpha Karen team He will emerge. To stamp out the scammer. He will emerge, undoubtedly. I mean, look at Corey. His his star rose faster than anyone I've ever seen.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2696" data-t="2696">You know? And so I'm just curious.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2698">44:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2698" data-t="2698">Plenator Plenator wants to be.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2701" data-t="2701">You're right. Plenator wants to be, but he will never he Plenator is always the the bridesmaid, never the bride. Pleadeter is not an alpha</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2708" data-t="2708">at all.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2709" data-t="2709">We need an alpha pleadeter. That's what Bitcoin Twitter needs. We need the we need an alpha pleadeter.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2715">45:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2715" data-t="2715">He's just gotta come on spaces and compete with the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2718" data-t="2718">the female Karens</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2720" data-t="2720">and see if he can out Karen Two. Yeah. The female Karens. That's it. An alph an alpha an alpha wouldn't be afraid</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2727">45:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2727" data-t="2727">of a little group chat, you know, chaos.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2730" data-t="2730">They would come in and they would demand order. They</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2733" data-t="2733">and Alpha Karen would show up to spaces and if if it was going off the rails, would immediately demand to speak to the host.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2741" data-t="2741">And the host would have to answer for the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2744" data-t="2744">the the ness of a Twitter spaces that they have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2747" data-t="2747">created.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2749">45:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2749" data-t="2749">And he would and they would set it straight, and they would rid all back group they would rid that spaces of all the scammers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2755" data-t="2755">and they would make it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2758" data-t="2758">a beautiful</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2759" data-t="2759">Bitcoin only experience like Cafe Bitcoin used to be. And then they would create their own space</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2764">46:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2764" data-t="2764">and their own group chats,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2767" data-t="2767">and this time would be different for them. Right? That's what they would be promising.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2771" data-t="2771">And that's that's the path to the top. It's easy. Someone's just gotta take it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2777" data-t="2777">Put it or sit.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2780">46:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2780" data-t="2780">Absolute shame</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2781" data-t="2781">that Corey</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2783" data-t="2783">is not living up to what was written on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2787" data-t="2787">his,</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2787">Bitcoin trading card.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2790" data-t="2790">Like, that's a travesty. What'd it say?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2793">46:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2793" data-t="2793">Well, he was he was one of the most valuable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2796" data-t="2796">Bitcoiners for waging war against shitcoins and be being Bitcoin only. But what did his trading card say? That? Okay.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2804">46:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2804" data-t="2804">Slayer of shit coins? Yeah. This this that Bitcoin trading card came out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2809" data-t="2809">at the end of two thousand twenty two,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2811" data-t="2811">the, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2813" data-t="2813">two days after,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2815" data-t="2815">Corey Clipston took credit for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2818" data-t="2818">SPF,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2820">46:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2820" data-t="2820">and FTX collapsing. So kind of like Dennis Porter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2823" data-t="2823">we now see like he he takes credit for like strategic Bitcoin reserves and all these announcements. Corey used to do that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2829" data-t="2829">with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2831" data-t="2831">Shakecoin casinos and lenders like Celsius and Luna He would take credit for taking those,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2837" data-t="2837">those down So he had just taken down like four and a half</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2841" data-t="2841">of these big headline grads He was in the New York Times He was in Wall Street Journal. He was he was basically claiming to be kind of like the Mars of sniffing outfits. He was like trying to say that he was the</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2854">47:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2854" data-t="2854">the the person he sniff sniffed out scans</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2856" data-t="2856">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2857" data-t="2857">that trading card came out and was a testament</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2861" data-t="2861">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2862" data-t="2862">all the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2863" data-t="2863">credit that Corey took</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2865">47:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2865" data-t="2865">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2867" data-t="2867">and and and then he just did not live, the spotlight was maybe undue to him and he was unable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2874" data-t="2874">to handle the spotlight. And, you know, he's had to take some time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2879" data-t="2879">and,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2881">48:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2881" data-t="2881">refined his inner Karen. It's a shame too because he he had the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2885" data-t="2885">perfect</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2886" data-t="2886">pedigree to be the true alpha Karen of Bitcoin Twitter calling out shit coins. I mean, with his</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2892" data-t="2892">history of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2894" data-t="2894">working at DNA Capital, which for those who people don't know what that is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2900" data-t="2900">was, Brock Pierce's, crypto hedge fund. So having spent time on the inside and right next to the big wigs</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2908">48:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2908" data-t="2908">of, Tether</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2909" data-t="2909">and running crypto hedge funds, I mean, he was perfectly suited</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2914" data-t="2914">and trained</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2915" data-t="2915">to then pivot overnight</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2917" data-t="2917">into Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2919" data-t="2919">and call out all the crypto scammers</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2922">48:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2922" data-t="2922">that he used to have an inside look at. So who else</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2926">48:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2926" data-t="2926">Well, he also yeah. I mean, he also he also worked very closely with and learned from Neil Jacobs who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2934" data-t="2934">was one of the top Karens</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2936" data-t="2936">in Clubhouse</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2937" data-t="2937">Mhmm. And and and spaces,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2940" data-t="2940">and he he kind of really helped Corey</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2944" data-t="2944">kind of</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2945">49:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2945" data-t="2945">find his footing in the club out stairs. Well, and it makes me think that the new alpha Karen isn't gonna come within,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2952" data-t="2952">but that we need to recruit a Charles Hoskinson</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2956" data-t="2956">or someone of the like, maybe,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2959" data-t="2959">you know, Vitalik.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2960" data-t="2960">You know, we gotta bring them in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2963" data-t="2963">and let them lead us</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2965">49:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2965" data-t="2965">in this new era</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2967" data-t="2967">of Karen maximalism</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2969" data-t="2969">in the defense of Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2971" data-t="2971">That might be the only way.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2973">49:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2973" data-t="2973">Yeah. They are.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2974" data-t="2974">Maybe we need to create a Charles Hoskinson</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2978" data-t="2978">or somebody like that. We need to build up another crypto hero so that we can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2984" data-t="2984">have somebody on our side in the maximalist community rise to the occasion.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2989" data-t="2989">We need to give them that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2990" data-t="2990">that, you know, that the</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2992">49:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2992" data-t="2992">US government thrives on having a rival like China making them very some very very very threatening and scary like Russia as well.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3000" data-t="3000">And that and aliens now they're saying aliens. So we need to have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3004" data-t="3004">we need to people need to strive to become and be proud to be a soldier and to to be based and to defend the country and to have huge, huge budgets.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3015" data-t="3015">We need to create that upon it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3018" data-t="3018">or, you know, to insert, you know, competition.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3021">50:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3021" data-t="3021">So maybe it's just it's just Jerome Powell. Maybe when he gets, you know, fired or retired as the head of the Federal Reserve, we we bring him into Bitcoin and let him lead us. You know?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3033" data-t="3033">He's the king of the shit coins. Right? He's the king. That'd be like</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3036">50:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3036" data-t="3036">building Tather Tower</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3038" data-t="3038">in Washington, DC.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3040">50:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3040" data-t="3040">Well, for America.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3042">50:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3042" data-t="3042">Why not? I think Andrew Tate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3044" data-t="3044">is a good candidate</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3046">50:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3046" data-t="3046">for Alpha Karen. Mhmm. Oh, that's a actually,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3050" data-t="3050">that is a really because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3052" data-t="3052">Andrew Andrew Tate is also really good. I mean, he he called out Peter McCormick.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3057" data-t="3057">He's not afraid. He was not afraid. Karens were not afraid to call out the biggest podcaster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3064" data-t="3064">in the community.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3065" data-t="3065">But everybody else, all the guys are, they wanna get they they wanna get invited on to be interviewed. They don't wanna say anything bad.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3073">51:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3073" data-t="3073">You need a Karen</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3075" data-t="3075">so powerful that they could just manhandle</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3077" data-t="3077">PodCon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3078" data-t="3078">at will. Somebody who put Ninja Granny. Yeah. Like Ninja Granny, could you imagine if she smoked cigarettes?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3085">51:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3085" data-t="3085">Amazing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3086" data-t="3086">Reckon was. Yeah. You know, I used to go back and forth with her back in the day, and then I realized it was not a a force to be messed with. So now we're friends.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3097" data-t="3097">And your granny</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3098">51:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3098" data-t="3098">based. She yes. She was a she was a she did all her jealousy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3102" data-t="3102">of of Smetsky.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3104" data-t="3104">I think that, she would be able to rise really far.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3108">51:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3108" data-t="3108">Oh, so Smetsky is within the height range of a traditional female Karen, so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3114" data-t="3114">there's something there too.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3116" data-t="3116">Someone to consider.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3118">51:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3118" data-t="3118">There's a range of of of male Karens like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3122" data-t="3122">from Spetsky all the way up to Corey.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3124">52:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3124" data-t="3124">It it it could look like anybody. Agree. I I think Terence Yang might be a dark horse. I think Terence is gonna come back at some point</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3133" data-t="3133">with some power and fury.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3136">52:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3136" data-t="3136">Shinobi was saying the other day that he misses Terrence already.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3139">52:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3139" data-t="3139">Well, Terrence is co opting the Democrats right now. You know, he's doing God's work. He's infiltrating,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3145" data-t="3145">back into the Democratic,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3147" data-t="3147">networks that he used to have. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3149" data-t="3149">And so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3150" data-t="3150">I expect him to show up with, like, a legion of Democrats in the cycle or two just ready to fucking,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3156" data-t="3156">you know, maximize the shit out of the left and,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3159">52:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3159" data-t="3159">bring freedom</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3161" data-t="3161">and do God's work all at the same time.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3164">52:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3164" data-t="3164">Do you think there's more Karens</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3167" data-t="3167">on the left</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3168" data-t="3168">or the right? Crosses all boundaries.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3171">52:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3171" data-t="3171">I I agree. I but I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3174" data-t="3174">the the Karens of the right</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3176" data-t="3176">are the ones who are gonna be the most</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3179" data-t="3179">outspoken</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3181" data-t="3181">and the most dominate the content</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3184" data-t="3184">in the cycle. So the Libertarian party</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3187">53:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3187" data-t="3187">is essentially what happens when you take a bunch of Karens and you lock them in a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3192" data-t="3192">room with each other. The question is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3195" data-t="3195">how do we prevent the Bitcoin ecosystem</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3198" data-t="3198">from becoming like the Libertarian Party?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3200" data-t="3200">And how do we unleash</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3202" data-t="3202">our Karen assets</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3204">53:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3204" data-t="3204">outward to wage chaos elsewhere</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3207" data-t="3207">and not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3208" data-t="3208">have all the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3210" data-t="3210">essentially aggressive energy directed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3214" data-t="3214">at each other?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3216" data-t="3216">Or do we wanna keep the infighting? No. I think I I think that,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3221">53:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3221" data-t="3221">it's not a problem because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3223" data-t="3223">Bitcoiners are way more statist</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3225" data-t="3225">than libertarians.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3226">53:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3226" data-t="3226">Yeah. We have that as our backbone. You know? Too many people with the inner fed.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3231">53:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3231" data-t="3231">Yeah. Compared to libertarian. Because the the feds wanna win, and libertarians don't want one. And we're still attached to this this thing called Bitcoin</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3239">53:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3239" data-t="3239">that can't lose.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3241" data-t="3241">You know? So, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3243" data-t="3243">we can be as messy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3245" data-t="3245">and hostile</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3246" data-t="3246">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3248" data-t="3248">fractionalized</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3249">54:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3249" data-t="3249">as a community as we want, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3251" data-t="3251">Bitcoin will</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3252" data-t="3252">probably</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3254" data-t="3254">push us to the finish line. Nonetheless,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3257" data-t="3257">we're gonna be a hot mess run by Karens, and we're still gonna win. Do you think that do you do you think there's too much pressure</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3265">54:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3265" data-t="3265">on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3267" data-t="3267">female Bitcoin influencers to be hot because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3270" data-t="3270">the male Bitcoin influencer does not have to worry about being hot. They can just wear car door shorts and be fat</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3276" data-t="3276">and short</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3277" data-t="3277">and smoke you know, not smoke cigarettes. So</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3281">54:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3281" data-t="3281">Yeah. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3282" data-t="3282">I know one fed that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3285" data-t="3285">you know, has done</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3287" data-t="3287">lip injections,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3289" data-t="3289">face filler,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3290" data-t="3290">Ozempic,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3292">54:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3292" data-t="3292">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3293" data-t="3293">all the rest.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3294" data-t="3294">And, you know, that's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3296" data-t="3296">that's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3297" data-t="3297">the plight of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3298" data-t="3298">having to, succeed</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3301">55:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3301" data-t="3301">in this industry.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3302" data-t="3302">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3303" data-t="3303">I would say that your question is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3306" data-t="3306">answered by the proof of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3309" data-t="3309">of those instances that are out there. It's a sad reality,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3313" data-t="3313">but true.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3314">55:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3314" data-t="3314">I don't know.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3315" data-t="3315">Richard might have a few more questions here. But my last question, you know, for you tonight is, what are your tips on if you want a fed girlfriend?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3326" data-t="3326">How could you go about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3328" data-t="3328">getting one? Maybe through group chats, through active spaces. How do you get how do you find a fed an orange built girlfriend?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3335">55:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3335" data-t="3335">Well, you gotta back channel with them to start. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3339" data-t="3339">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3340" data-t="3340">you gotta be part of this this simple little coalition that will coordinate and block anyone that they don't like.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3348" data-t="3348">You gotta answer their phone calls.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3351" data-t="3351">You gotta spend</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3352">55:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3352" data-t="3352">many hours on the phone with them talking You're gonna you're gonna give them your phone number. Yeah. Somebody from, like, a DM on Twitter, like, you're gonna give me your actual phone number or, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3362" data-t="3362">like, the, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3364" data-t="3364">a burner?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3365">56:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3365" data-t="3365">You can do however you want, but you just gotta be voice to voice, and you gotta answer the call when you get it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3371" data-t="3371">And you gotta start off in the friend zone. You know?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3374" data-t="3374">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3375" data-t="3375">you you gotta let them,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3378" data-t="3378">do their thing to you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3380" data-t="3380">You know? It's kinda like, because they are the alpha, and and we're the betas. Mhmm.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3385">56:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3385" data-t="3385">Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3386" data-t="3386">And so it is a role reversal. If you want a fed girlfriend on the Internet,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3392" data-t="3392">recognize that you're the beta</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3394" data-t="3394">and answer the phone calls when they call.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3398" data-t="3398">That's it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3399">56:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3399" data-t="3399">So if you think if you think you've found</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3402" data-t="3402">a fed girlfriend</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3405" data-t="3405">and you're the one</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3406" data-t="3406">who is you feel like you're in charge of the situation,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3411" data-t="3411">you are probably gonna get rug pulled. Is that what you're saying? It's not a Fed?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3417">56:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3417" data-t="3417">That's actually the sweet spot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3420" data-t="3420">It's when you believe you're in charge, but you're not.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3424" data-t="3424">Right? As soon as you start to realize you're not in charge,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3428" data-t="3428">then she'll leave you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3430" data-t="3430">She'll leave you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3432" data-t="3432">So the sweet spot is to be in a delusion that you that it's all good. Kinda like a dominatrix</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3438">57:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3438" data-t="3438">relationship</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3439">57:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3439" data-t="3439">mixed with Stockholm Syndrome. It is what it is. You know? And it's a fun ride while it lasts. It's a fun ride. When do you know</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3446">57:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3446" data-t="3446">that it's time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3448" data-t="3448">to end this rendezvous</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3451" data-t="3451">with a fed? She is. You know, you might meet a fed, you might white you may this might not even be your fed girlfriend, but you you just meet a you meet a fed that you you you like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3460" data-t="3460">kind of you're there and you go to their spaces, you listen to their podcast, you go you talk to them, maybe you can give give them their friend number, but you know they're fed. When do you know it's time to to cut off that fed?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3471" data-t="3471">You had some time you've learned you learned a little bit and made us, you know, kind of a friend, I guess. No. No. It's it's time to walk away. You're not in control.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3479">57:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3479" data-t="3479">It's like a dream.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3481" data-t="3481">You only wake up, and after the fact, you realize it was a dream.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3486" data-t="3486">So enjoy the ride while it lasts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3489" data-t="3489">You are not in control.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3491">58:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3491" data-t="3491">That sounds like my situation with miss Hollow Knot. It's got me really thinking everything differently now. Yeah. You doing alright with that? Not anymore now that I realized that she might be a fit, so I can't get out of it. Well, let me know if you wanna talk. You know? I'm here for you. I don't know if I really have any more questions.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3508">58:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3508" data-t="3508">I apologize, Mars. I'm very tired. We're good, dude.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3513" data-t="3513">I just think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3515" data-t="3515">like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3516" data-t="3516">the these types of government actions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3519" data-t="3519">where they can totally turn your life</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3522" data-t="3522">upside down,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3523">58:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3523" data-t="3523">it I I don't think it will pass. I don't think people will allow cigarettes to get banned,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3529" data-t="3529">but it kinda creates that baseline level of anxiety.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3533" data-t="3533">It just makes you tired. You know what I mean?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3536" data-t="3536">And I I guess I I'm giving it too much power. I shouldn't really care. Because if they ban cigarettes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3542" data-t="3542">I don't care. I'm still gonna smoke cigarettes. They can't stop me. I'm not going for 95%</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3548" data-t="3548">less cool cigarettes. I'm going for the full 100%.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3552">59:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3552" data-t="3552">Yeah. They're not, yeah, they're not even enforcing, like, any like, I think they're gonna probably</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3557" data-t="3557">stop. Or if they're still letting people, like, loot Walgreens,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3561" data-t="3561">you know, and poop on the street, like, I don't think they're they're gonna spend they they can't come after beef or smoke or cigarette.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3568">59:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Mars</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3568" data-t="3568">I mean, if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3571" data-t="3571">Go ahead. Go for it, Richard. I'm sorry.</span></span></p> +