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Today is a very sad day.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-6" data-t="6">Today, we witnessed an on person</span> <span class="cue" id="t-9" data-t="9">attack</span> <span class="cue" id="t-11" data-t="11">on podcasting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-12" data-t="12">While</span> <span class="cue" id="t-15" data-t="15">while Charlie Kirk was not a Bitcoin podcaster, he was a podcaster. He was part of</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-23">0:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-23" data-t="23">the rise of podcasting, a very notable figure in the podcasting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-28" data-t="28">ecosystem,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-30" data-t="30">a pioneer in his own right in the media ecosystem.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-34" data-t="34">And I would say</span> <span class="cue" id="t-36" data-t="36">as a journalist, as a podcaster,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-38" data-t="38">it is a very sad day. I know a lot of people are feeling sad. A lot of podcasters are feeling scared.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-43">0:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-43" data-t="43">For the time being, we're gonna be podcasting, or at least I will be podcasting in a bulletproof vest.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-51" data-t="51">This is the fourth turning.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-54" data-t="54">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-55" data-t="55">you know, a lot of people laugh to Tatum turn up in his bulletproof</span> <span class="cue" id="t-60" data-t="60">vest. Nobody's laughing at Tatum turn up now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-63">1:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-63" data-t="63">We laughed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-65" data-t="65">we laughed at Tatum</span> <span class="cue" id="t-67" data-t="67">when we interviewed him a few weeks ago.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-71" data-t="71">But I if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-73" data-t="73">if it can happen if it can happen to somebody like Charlie, that's the thing. He I know. I I didn't really listen</span> <span class="cue" id="t-80" data-t="80">to Charlie</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-81">1:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-81" data-t="81">Curves podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-83" data-t="83">I I didn't listen to him too. I didn't pay too much attention to him.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-87" data-t="87">And a lot of nobody else did either. So, like, right now, it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-92" data-t="92">it's just a stupid thing that doesn't make any sense. And if you're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-96" data-t="96">you've been scrolling the timeline the past few days,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-101" data-t="101">he'd probably tell you like, I want to avoid this like, recent video I didn't did not want to spend my week looking at people's necks explode,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-109">1:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-109" data-t="109">and bleed out,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-111" data-t="111">you know, as</span> <span class="cue" id="t-112" data-t="112">some people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-114" data-t="114">either just stand there and take selfies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-117" data-t="117">or, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-119" data-t="119">just scream and run a lead, but</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-122">2:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-122" data-t="122">you might as well. You might as well. If you're curious, you might as well</span> <span class="cue" id="t-126" data-t="126">look at the, videos</span> <span class="cue" id="t-128" data-t="128">because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-130" data-t="130">you really don't have a choice anymore. It's time to face reality. You like, you're not gonna be able to go on social media,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-135" data-t="135">and not see a murder video</span> <span class="cue" id="t-138" data-t="138">every other post no matter what you can plutters and I'm not interested in all these posts you still get. You can't avoid it. It's unavoidable.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-144">2:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-144" data-t="144">The world is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-146" data-t="146">it is no everybody's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-148" data-t="148">blashering today on on Twitter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-150" data-t="150">saying we we don't want</span> <span class="cue" id="t-153" data-t="153">violence over politics. Well, guess what? Nobody wants violence</span> <span class="cue" id="t-157" data-t="157">over politics, but we have violence over it. We it's not new. I mean, Charlie Kirk was not</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-163">2:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-163" data-t="163">the first,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-164" data-t="164">political</span> <span class="cue" id="t-165" data-t="165">you know, somebody who was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-166" data-t="166">a victim of political violence, he won't be the last, unfortunately.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-171" data-t="171">But yeah, nobody's for, like, it we're however</span> <span class="cue" id="t-175" data-t="175">I mean, the last thing we need right now is is more people posting about what</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-180">3:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-180" data-t="180">bad thing they were against. Okay. Well, it's not helping. I apologize.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-186">3:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-186" data-t="186">Looks like I was checking to see that we're live on primal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-192" data-t="192">Looks like we are. Looks like it works. You can go live on Primal now. That's pretty cool.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-198" data-t="198">We're live on ZapStream too. People are starting to flow on Twitter. But, yeah, there's a lot of people trying to milk this right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-205" data-t="205">One of the things that I find really stunning is when,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-210" data-t="210">politicians</span> <span class="cue" id="t-213" data-t="213">who use political violence on a daily basis</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-217">3:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-217" data-t="217">in one form or another,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-220" data-t="220">Especially the politicians that are in charge of, like, the National Guard or the Police Department</span> <span class="cue" id="t-226" data-t="226">of some sort.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-227" data-t="227">They're wielding a lot of political violence.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-231" data-t="231">And they they go out and tweet that there's no room for political violence. I find that pretty stunning, but then there's also the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-239" data-t="239">the motivational</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-240">3:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-240" data-t="240">speaker,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-241" data-t="241">an influencer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-242" data-t="242">the visionary,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-245" data-t="245">this the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-246" data-t="246">the Bitcoin wallet CEO,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-249" data-t="249">pioneer,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-251">4:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-251" data-t="251">that also try and use this as an opportunity.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-255" data-t="255">This is an attack on Bitcoin podcasting, folks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-258" data-t="258">It's an attack on journalism,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-262" data-t="262">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-263" data-t="263">we're gonna see more of this. And you gotta prepare.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-267" data-t="267">This is the fourth turning.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-270">4:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-270" data-t="270">Yeah. The,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-272" data-t="272">we're gonna go through and read some of the crazy reactions of the timeline. Well, one of them I saw today,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-278" data-t="278">it was like a communist libtard</span> <span class="cue" id="t-280" data-t="280">and they were doing what, you know, half of the communist libtards were doing. It's like, it's saying how they,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-285" data-t="285">you know, argue with each other about did he deserve it or not. Damn, this is the one, you know, he was saying like, this is horrific. He was acknowledging</span> <span class="cue" id="t-293" data-t="293">the depth of the situation.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-295">4:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-295" data-t="295">And one of his responses</span> <span class="cue" id="t-296" data-t="296">was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-298" data-t="298">Vince, Charlie Kirk, and I quote, actively campaigned</span> <span class="cue" id="t-303" data-t="303">against the concept of empathy. And I don't I have no idea what that means,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-308" data-t="308">but I think it wouldn't surprise me</span> <span class="cue" id="t-312" data-t="312">to log on and hear that a Bitcoin podcaster that I've listened to and I respect and I think is a good person could be accused</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-321">5:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-321" data-t="321">of championing against empathy or something similar. I just don't think that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-326" data-t="326">that's we should be shooting people over their,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-329" data-t="329">their tampines</span> <span class="cue" id="t-331" data-t="331">for or against the concept</span> <span class="cue" id="t-333" data-t="333">of</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-335">5:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-335" data-t="335">of words like empathy. It's just, it's kinda crazy. That is a strange one. I haven't heard of that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-343">5:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-343" data-t="343">So people It's a failure test. Right? It's just, you know, somebody out there, their most important purity test is your,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-350" data-t="350">you know, are you an acting campaigner for the concept of of entity? That is their you can't please everybody. And then,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-357" data-t="357">if you fail too many purity tests, you have no allies in these situations.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-363">6:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-363" data-t="363">That's something that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-365" data-t="365">they didn't talk about in the four attorney book. Is it this</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-369">6:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-369" data-t="369">acceleration of purity test? They did, actually. That was a that was kind of a big part of it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-375">6:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-375" data-t="375">They talked about purity. They said that when the fourth turning happens, people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-380" data-t="380">go crazy and issue unlimited amounts of purity test?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-383">6:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-383" data-t="383">Well, they didn't call it purity test there, but they did caught talk about the politicizing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-387" data-t="387">of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-389" data-t="389">all all behavior,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-390" data-t="390">all moral perspectives,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-392" data-t="392">and litigating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-394" data-t="394">those in public and coming to conflict there.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-397">6:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-397" data-t="397">Yeah. That that's my interpretation. That's it. It sounds a lot like purity test</span> <span class="cue" id="t-401" data-t="401">discourse</span> <span class="cue" data-t="401">to me.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-404">6:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-404" data-t="404">Sounds like I re need to reread that book, like, as soon as possible.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-408">6:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-408" data-t="408">I think so too. I'm I I think I need to read it again as well</span> <span class="cue" id="t-414" data-t="414">because it it was written in the nineties,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-417" data-t="417">but it did a lot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-420" data-t="420">You know, not down to the date or a specific,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-423" data-t="423">you know, situation like what happened today, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-427" data-t="427">just the broader vibes,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-430">7:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-430" data-t="430">the broader</span> <span class="cue" id="t-431" data-t="431">approach people start</span> <span class="cue" id="t-433" data-t="433">the changes in behavior</span> <span class="cue" id="t-436" data-t="436">towards</span> <span class="cue" id="t-438" data-t="438">predictable you know, back towards their natural incentives.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-442" data-t="442">And it seems like that is the, divide</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-445">7:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-445" data-t="445">right now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-448">7:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-448" data-t="448">Makes sense. Well, we had a good time. Do you have a good time with, talking to Joey?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-454">7:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-454" data-t="454">Yeah. If you haven't seen that, we,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-457" data-t="457">we went on the Canadian Bitcoin podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-461" data-t="461">earlier tonight. That should be up found. You can boost it there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-465" data-t="465">I don't know if,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-469" data-t="469">I don't know if if if the Canadian Bitcoin podcast audience was ready for us. Well, I think it was mostly just Boomer.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-478">7:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-478" data-t="478">Boomer is ready for us. Boomer is always ready for us. He know he knows what to expect.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-482" data-t="482">Yeah. I was I was monitoring the chat.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-485" data-t="485">Yeah. Canadians are just built different. Canadians are built different. But, yeah, one of the things I wanted to do tonight is, I I guess we could do live reactions,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-494" data-t="494">to people's tweets.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-497" data-t="497">You know, the the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-500" data-t="500">only silver lining</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-503">8:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-503" data-t="503">in this situation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-506" data-t="506">and it feels kinda crass to even mention that there's a silver lining. But this silver lining to the Charlie Kirk</span> <span class="cue" id="t-513" data-t="513">situation is that my timeline</span> <span class="cue" id="t-517" data-t="517">is full of topics other than not for the first time in a long time. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-523">8:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-523" data-t="523">You know, it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-525" data-t="525">it's like a cruel irony</span> <span class="cue" id="t-527" data-t="527">or just maybe they those guys have really bad luck</span> <span class="cue" id="t-531" data-t="531">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-533" data-t="533">after years of just making no progress</span> <span class="cue" id="t-536" data-t="536">just</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-537">8:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-537" data-t="537">insistent</span> <span class="cue" id="t-538" data-t="538">discourse</span> <span class="cue" id="t-541" data-t="541">Tom or Ever, they could never convince Tom or Jimmy Song. The the company guys, the CQB guys</span> <span class="cue" id="t-548" data-t="548">seemed to have found,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-549" data-t="549">you know, an ally in Luke,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-552" data-t="552">the Nazis, some of them. And it was looking like for the first time, like, Nox had or not Nox,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-558">9:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-558" data-t="558">CTV</span> <span class="cue" id="t-559" data-t="559">had a, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-562" data-t="562">a gambler's shot that getting activated, and then boom,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-566" data-t="566">Nobody could have predicted a cultural</span> <span class="cue" id="t-569" data-t="569">blast swan moment, you know, and now nobody's nobody's gonna talk about covenants again for, you know, couple more years. And basically,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-577" data-t="577">the Conan's guys were in at a time to get their,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-580">9:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-580" data-t="580">code merged before the beginning of the force turning. Do you think the podcaster</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-585">9:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-585" data-t="585">assassination</span> <span class="cue" id="t-586" data-t="586">is, an attempt to distract from Covenant?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-592">9:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-592" data-t="592">I well, I don't know. I have no idea. I would only be speculating, but I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-597" data-t="597">anything</span> <span class="cue" id="t-598" data-t="598">I think most people would consider anything</span> <span class="cue" id="t-601" data-t="601">to be a worthy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-603" data-t="603">distraction from talking</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-605">10:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-605" data-t="605">more about covenants. I don't know. It's hard it's hard to know. It's hard to draw conclusions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-610" data-t="610">in these scenarios as they're developing and breaking. It seems like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-614" data-t="614">I I've been following the story a little bit. I've been busy Bitcoin podcasting today, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-619" data-t="619">it seems like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-622" data-t="622">the initial guy that they arrested that looked like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-626" data-t="626">kind of a diet version of Bernie Sanders</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-629">10:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-629" data-t="629">was not the guy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-631" data-t="631">So Right. The guy so some poor guy probably is getting his life around because they arrested the wrong guy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-638">10:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-638" data-t="638">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-639" data-t="639">that would,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-641" data-t="641">it kinda seemed like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-643" data-t="643">after all of a sudden done it, it was he was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-646" data-t="646">making a distraction</span> <span class="cue" id="t-648" data-t="648">trying to make himself,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-651">10:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-651" data-t="651">or, you know, did something that made him seem like the sheer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-655" data-t="655">and then there was other video that came out of what somebody looked like they were in the prone position on top of a building 200 yards away</span> <span class="cue" id="t-662" data-t="662">and that sheer, the barreling river shot, the gun is still at large but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-667" data-t="667">it was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-668" data-t="668">the way I thought about it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-670" data-t="670">it was an old white boomer</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-673">11:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-673" data-t="673">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-674" data-t="674">there's very few people in society right now in bitcoin right now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-680" data-t="680">less or more unpopular than old white boomers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-684" data-t="684">And if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-685" data-t="685">old white boomers had any ally</span> <span class="cue" id="t-688" data-t="688">looking out for them,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-689">11:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-689" data-t="689">outside their demographic, it was probably, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-692" data-t="692">white dudes, white Republicans in their twenties and thirties who listened to Charlie Kirk.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-698" data-t="698">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-699" data-t="699">when when I saw this dude who's responsible,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-701" data-t="701">he was not who I expected.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-703" data-t="703">Well, my first thought was like, once I found out that he was not the shooter was that that he'd almost cost</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-710">11:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-710" data-t="710">the boomers their social security because if they lost the Charlie Kirk demographic, boomers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-716" data-t="716">so social security was getting cut.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-718" data-t="718">You know, college tuition was gonna get paid off or college debt. Something was gonna happen. We were removing social security if that deed is the real shooter. I tweeted about that. I wanna go to this before I start</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-729">12:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-729" data-t="729">going to,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-730">12:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-730" data-t="730">Las Vegas almost went</span> <span class="cue" id="t-733" data-t="733">completely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-734" data-t="734">belly up overnight.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-736">12:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-736" data-t="736">Have you seen this? This is what the brewers are doing now. They've got these,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-740" data-t="740">they can't gamble their Social Security checks away fast enough, so they're bringing their massage guns to hit that little button on the slot machines.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-748" data-t="748">That's what the boomers are up to. No?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-751" data-t="751">Not all of them. They're yeah. I have to say</span> <span class="cue" id="t-754" data-t="754">I feel bad because I keep on meeting these, like, solid boomers out there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-759" data-t="759">that aren't like this.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-762">12:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-762" data-t="762">It's hard when there's so many that aren't.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-765">12:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-765" data-t="765">That regardless of the you know, there are bigomers, of course, big gamers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-769" data-t="769">My point is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-771" data-t="771">that that group of people is not very popular, and,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-776">12:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-776" data-t="776">I don't know.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-777">12:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-777" data-t="777">It it almost seems</span> <span class="cue" id="t-780" data-t="780">like the fact that they didn't touch</span> <span class="cue" id="t-783" data-t="783">anybody of Shooter, if they're at large, it almost seems like the worst possible outcome. Because, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-789" data-t="789">people were worried</span> <span class="cue" id="t-791" data-t="791">that it was gonna be, like, somebody from Libs at TikTok that did it, or, like, somebody from Kitty Parties that did it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-798" data-t="798">They were not prepared for the old Bernie Sanders guy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-803">13:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-803" data-t="803">But now nobody knows who it is. It could be anybody.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-806" data-t="806">Some people think it's Israel. Some people think it is, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-810" data-t="810">the CIA. Some people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-812" data-t="812">think it's a distraction</span> <span class="cue" id="t-814" data-t="814">from Epstein, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-816" data-t="816">the last thing we need right now is another conspiracy theory</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-820">13:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-820" data-t="820">So we're gonna go to jail. Some people thinks it's nonce runners. Some people thinks it's core runners. Some people thinks it's shitcoiners.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-828" data-t="828">Some people thinks it's it's a Bitcoin maximalist.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-832">13:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-832" data-t="832">Yeah. Somebody's speculating that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-834" data-t="834">it was a meme coin assassination.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-837" data-t="837">Somebody made a lot of money off of a Charlie Kirk meme coin. Yeah. Planet or definitely thinks it might be the shitcoiners.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-844">14:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-844" data-t="844">I mean, the the assassination markets is an interesting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-848" data-t="848">topic theory, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-850" data-t="850">we'll get to that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-853" data-t="853">First tweet,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-855" data-t="855">Ben Jossman. I I like Ben Jossman. He's a he's a pretty wholesome guy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-859" data-t="859">I would say. What do you think of Ben? Do you like him?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-864">14:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-864" data-t="864">Today is the Korean guy. Korean wine guy. So it looks like he's responding.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-869">14:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-869" data-t="869">Some people think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-870" data-t="870">some people are giving him purity test over him selling alcohol. He said, I agreed that, technically, alcohol</span> <span class="cue" id="t-877" data-t="877">is poison,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-878" data-t="878">and circadian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-879" data-t="879">rhythm is vital. However, I think that occasionally staying up until 2AM drinking red wine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-886" data-t="886">with people people</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-887">14:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-887" data-t="887">you love is medicinal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-891" data-t="891">I think you should be able to sell whatever you want to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-895" data-t="895">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-897" data-t="897">as long as it's not hurting somebody.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-900">14:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-900" data-t="900">Oh, that yeah. That</span> <span class="cue" id="t-902" data-t="902">I don't disagree. I just seems like a weird day</span> <span class="cue" id="t-906" data-t="906">to be nitpicking that kind of purity test.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-910">15:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-910" data-t="910">I agree.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-913" data-t="913">Tonight today, you know, days like today, it it's interesting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-918" data-t="918">because there's different ways to respond to very, like, traumatic events, especially, like, when the the TV and the social media is, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-925" data-t="925">you know, shoving these videos of people's, like, jugglers exploding in your face.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-932" data-t="932">Maybe today's a good night to stay up till 2AM drinking red wine with your family or loved ones.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-940">15:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-940" data-t="940">Yeah. Do we know who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-943" data-t="943">this afternoon, just in the context of what's going on around us on social media and the word who who was it that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-950" data-t="950">takes the day</span> <span class="cue" id="t-952" data-t="952">to try to cancel Ben Jossman for selling,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-955" data-t="955">homemade wine?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-957" data-t="957">It's just</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-958">15:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-958" data-t="958">that's a that's an ulcimear response to trauma, right? It's like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-961" data-t="961">you hear about one of the most horrific</span> <span class="cue" id="t-965" data-t="965">HD video, you know, assassinations.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-970" data-t="970">It's all everybody's talking about. You're like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-973" data-t="973">You know where I it reminds me Ben Jussman fucking everybody thinks he's so cool because he likes Creed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-979" data-t="979">But he's selling alcohol, and that's a theory test violation. I'm gonna go hold him accountable because right now, I don't know if anybody's policing the timeline</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-988">16:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-988" data-t="988">for scammers.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-989">16:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-989" data-t="989">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-991" data-t="991">I don't know.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-993" data-t="993">Shows where some people's priorities are. Yep. And Satoshi's tweeting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-998" data-t="998">is an older one, though. It's thirteen hours. This is probably before Charlie got shot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1005" data-t="1005">What do you think of Satoshi and all of his crazy tweets?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1009">16:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1009" data-t="1009">You know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1011" data-t="1011">I always say</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1012" data-t="1012">that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1015" data-t="1015">do whatever you you know, whatever it is as long as you're proud of it. And he he does seem</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1020" data-t="1020">proud of his foreign policy tweet. I don't think he should,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1023" data-t="1023">but</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1024">17:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1024" data-t="1024">he does seem proud of his foreign policy tweets.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1029" data-t="1029">So it's it's part you know, I was trying to argue. I tried to argue with him once, making a joke. He blocked me. So he's not,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1036" data-t="1036">he doesn't wanna hear</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1039" data-t="1039">your opinion anyway if he doesn't agree with him.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1044">17:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1044" data-t="1044">He's got some interest in, foreign policy tweets. He said so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1048" data-t="1048">the Kyiv post posted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1050" data-t="1050">today said, NATO does not consider the drone incident</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1053" data-t="1053">in Polish airspace an attack</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1056" data-t="1056">Reuters report citing a source within the alliance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1061" data-t="1061">And, Peter Todd responds</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1064">17:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1064" data-t="1064">I mean, Satoshi responds as absurd. Someone's house got destroyed by that Russian attack on Poland.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1070" data-t="1070">European leadership is pathologically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1072" data-t="1072">weak.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1074">17:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1074" data-t="1074">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1075" data-t="1075">that that is interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1077" data-t="1077">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1078" data-t="1078">for the context, if you didn't pay attention last night,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1082" data-t="1082">barely drones</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1083" data-t="1083">went through Poland, Russian drones.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1086">18:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1086" data-t="1086">They were shooting them down.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1088" data-t="1088">There was fighter jets scrambled by NATO out of Germany. United States has sent an f 30 fives,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1095" data-t="1095">and it's drone crafts to do a house which, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1098" data-t="1098">totally shitty for whoever's house that was. Plebs are the cannon fodder in these situations.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1105" data-t="1105">I don't know, but I I was dreaming about it's a, sigh out because Bitcoin price didn't go down, so it wasn't like the start of World War three all of a sudden.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1114" data-t="1114">What Peter Todd</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1116">18:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1116" data-t="1116">thinks after all is said and done without really having any answers about who actually launched those drones,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1122" data-t="1122">That one house getting blown up, I don't know, it sounds like he wants NATO to invade Russia He seems like he just he he wants any excuse</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1131" data-t="1131">for NATO to invade Russia, so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1136" data-t="1136">that's what I noticed.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1139">18:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1139" data-t="1139">He kinda Satoshi kinda makes John Brennan look mild</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1144" data-t="1144">and tame.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1145">19:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1145" data-t="1145">And John Bolton?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1148" data-t="1148">Sorry.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1149">19:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1149" data-t="1149">Yeah. Sorry. John Brown and was CIA guy. Yeah. John Bolton.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1152">19:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1152" data-t="1152">What what was from really?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1155">19:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1155" data-t="1155">John Bolton.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1157" data-t="1157">Man, he was foaming at the mouth wanting Trump to invade Venezuela.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1161" data-t="1161">That might happen. That that was another.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1164" data-t="1164">There's been so much shit that's happened this week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1168" data-t="1168">It's insane.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1170">19:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1170" data-t="1170">That's true.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1173" data-t="1173">Well, so I mean, obviously, the biggest</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1176" data-t="1176">the biggest story is the assassination of a podcaster,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1180" data-t="1180">but it's easy to forget,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1183" data-t="1183">you know, multiple</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1185" data-t="1185">new extremely</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1187">19:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1187" data-t="1187">high stakes conflicts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1189" data-t="1189">and been on the brink of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1191" data-t="1191">exploding into the broader, you know, war.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1195">19:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1195" data-t="1195">We might wake up tomorrow and have a bunch of wars going on. There might be a civil war.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1202" data-t="1202">The, NOS versus core conflict might turn hot. We might have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1207" data-t="1207">NATO invading Russia.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1211" data-t="1211">Who knows who Israel's gonna be bombing tomorrow? They just bombed Qatar. That was another big story.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1217">20:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1217" data-t="1217">Right. That was nobody expected that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1220" data-t="1220">Yeah. I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1222" data-t="1222">that's a good point about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1224" data-t="1224">the prospect of Vora. I go I farken back to listening to Bitcoin podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1230" data-t="1230">forty hours per week at least</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1233" data-t="1233">because</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1233">20:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" data-t="1233">if you listen to forty hours per week, you're not gonna wake up tomorrow</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1238" data-t="1238">surprised</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1239" data-t="1239">that we're at war,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1241" data-t="1241">or in some new conflict.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1243" data-t="1243">Nobody's gonna be caught by surprise when they wake up and listen to forty hours per week. You can see what's coming.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1250" data-t="1250">You can see the conflict continuing to boil over</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1253">20:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1253" data-t="1253">in Ukraine,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1255" data-t="1255">in or in Europe in general.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1257" data-t="1257">The European government are losing control of their people. They shouldn't be losing control. They shouldn't have control in the first place, but it they deserve to be losing their it's a mess.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1266" data-t="1266">The French government,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1269" data-t="1269">collapsed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1270" data-t="1270">Everybody wants to throw Keir Starmer</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1273">21:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1273" data-t="1273">into a Volcino in The UK.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1276" data-t="1276">They assassinated the right wing party, all seven, like, seven members</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1280" data-t="1280">in Germany</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1281" data-t="1281">last week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1283" data-t="1283">The Polish are would be happy to go kill some Slavs and some Russians.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1288" data-t="1288">Nobody wants to give the po the Polish,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1291">21:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1291" data-t="1291">boners right now or ever.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1294" data-t="1294">You know, I mean, you know what's going on in Gaza. You know what's going on in India, Pakistan.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1298" data-t="1298">People that are going full tally mode using bit chat</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1302" data-t="1302">to overthrow the government in Nepal and Indonesia.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1305" data-t="1305">We're bombing the Venezuelans</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1308" data-t="1308">who are big time Bitcoiners, by the way.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1311">21:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1311" data-t="1311">You know, the cartels, I think, were bombing the cartels in Mexico.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1316" data-t="1316">They're they're assassinating podcasts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1318" data-t="1318">You're not gonna wake up tomorrow and find yourself</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1321" data-t="1321">in a brand new war unless</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1324" data-t="1324">you know, some people will. The people who are are still trying to ignore reality,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1329" data-t="1329">they're gonna wake up tomorrow,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1331">22:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1331" data-t="1331">literally tomorrow, and probably find themselves in a new world. Can can you help with being mad at the boomers?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1339">22:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1339" data-t="1339">No. I I I don't think I think it all boils back</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1343" data-t="1343">or dials back, points back to the boomers. Everybody wants to blame Israel,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1349" data-t="1349">but they don't wanna blame the boomers.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1353">22:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1353" data-t="1353">I'm getting somebody messaging me some breaking news, but I don't wanna I don't wanna read it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1359" data-t="1359">There might be some big news tomorrow. Oh,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1363" data-t="1363">it's not war related. It's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1366" data-t="1366">I don't know. I guess we'll talk about it when it gets public, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1370" data-t="1370">just totally lost it. You can't you can't read messages in the group chats at the same time as podcasting. It's a really bad idea. Maybe this is why women are have the potential to be really good Bitcoin podcasters. They can,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1383" data-t="1383">multitask.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1384">23:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1384" data-t="1384">Women are known to be able to multitask a lot better than men.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1389" data-t="1389">Looks like Rod is, maybe it's already circulating news. I don't know. What do you think, Rod?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1395">23:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1395" data-t="1395">Are you talking about the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1399" data-t="1399">what's we spread this way? The thing that Jewish lawyers are involved with?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1402" data-t="1402">Yes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1405" data-t="1405">I'm pretty sure that's public.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1407" data-t="1407">I mean, I know people are talking not that many people are talking about it because it's not that interesting to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1415" data-t="1415">I think Magoo will be pretty interested in this, Haldamagoo.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1419">23:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1419" data-t="1419">Haldamagoo is like whatever like, I don't know. I don't know if we have to talk about this specifically,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1424" data-t="1424">but let's just put it this way.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1426" data-t="1426">Vindication</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1428" data-t="1428">for Havel Magoo Everybody was telling Havel Magoo, he did not know what he was talking about and his FUD was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1436" data-t="1436">there was no precedent legally for it, so he was just talking out of his ass</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1442" data-t="1442">turns out</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1443">24:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1443" data-t="1443">that annoying little fucker was right I'm on Magoo's page right now It doesn't look like he's,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1449">24:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1449" data-t="1449">I don't know if Magoo knows about it Magoo hasn't been super engaged,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1454" data-t="1454">in Bitcoin Twitter stuff</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1456" data-t="1456">lately. I Halal Magoo is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1459" data-t="1459">spending most of his time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1462" data-t="1462">being surprised that Donald Trump is doing something stupid.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1465" data-t="1465">I don't know how many times I don't know why</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1468">24:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1468" data-t="1468">people think Magoo is so smart, but if he's still surprised by Trump saying stupid shit and doing stupid shit,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1476">24:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1476" data-t="1476">Yeah. He's behind the news. Maybe Plutters sniffed it out.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1480" data-t="1480">He's kinda behind the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1482" data-t="1482">behind the times.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1484" data-t="1484">Hunter's been spending all his times complaining that sequins is launching their,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1490">24:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1490" data-t="1490">their live streams late. Yeah. I think that's funny. I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1494" data-t="1494">I would dare say that nobody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1497" data-t="1497">is more disappointed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1499" data-t="1499">when Swan and Sequans cancel a planned livestream</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1504" data-t="1504">than Plutator is. I think Plutator really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1507" data-t="1507">goes out of his way to watch this. I think he enjoys him. Have you ever watched the paper Bitcoin livestream?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1515">25:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1515" data-t="1515">I haven't. I haven't yet. I don't.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1519">25:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1519" data-t="1519">No. I have not.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1522">25:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1522" data-t="1522">I'd like to the plotter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1524" data-t="1524">if for some strange reason you're watching this or somebody tells you about it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1528" data-t="1528">I would love to do a livestream watch party with you for the next sequence livestream.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1537">25:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1537" data-t="1537">Yeah. We would love to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1539" data-t="1539">make fun of the sequins livestream</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1542" data-t="1542">with predators sometime. I think that would be, like, a really I think what we need right now, not just in this country,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1549" data-t="1549">but, you know, in this industry, in this community is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1553" data-t="1553">moments of healing coming together and unblocking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1556" data-t="1556">other journalists who you blocked a long time ago</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1560">25:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1560" data-t="1560">and just never</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1562" data-t="1562">give him a chance, second chance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1566" data-t="1566">I think that would be a really ceiling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1568" data-t="1568">livestream would be Bugle and Predator.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1571" data-t="1571">Duncan on sequence.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1573" data-t="1573">I would love to make that happen.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1576">26:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1576" data-t="1576">That'd be beautiful.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1579" data-t="1579">He hasn't blocked me yet. I think I'm</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1582" data-t="1582">the only one that's not blocked by him.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1586">26:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1586" data-t="1586">He doesn't respond to me. I mean, we talked about this, and it's looks like we're looking at it right now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1592" data-t="1592">I just love that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1594" data-t="1594">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1595" data-t="1595">the gravity of what happened today</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1598" data-t="1598">how heinous it was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1600" data-t="1600">and just the way that everybody was reacting to it</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1603">26:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1603" data-t="1603">Everybody had their own reaction to it, right? But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1606" data-t="1606">Planet Earth's first reaction was to go to pump.fun</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1612" data-t="1612">and see if, anybody had made a Charlie Turpinene coin to pump a dump on the assassination</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1618" data-t="1618">is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1620" data-t="1620">And, so that's what you do with these. An influential person gets assassinated minutes later on pump.fund.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1627" data-t="1627">Glover, other</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1629">27:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1629" data-t="1629">it is disgusting, and shitcoiners are pretty degenerate, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1634" data-t="1634">you're the one that went to pump.fun</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1637" data-t="1637">as your first reaction.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1640" data-t="1640">Find the link in the mirror.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1642">27:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1642" data-t="1642">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1643" data-t="1643">I think this my first time in a long time,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1647" data-t="1647">going to pumped up on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1649" data-t="1649">one of the website right now. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1653" data-t="1653">they have a little disclaimer to get into the website that says I'm ready to pump.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1658" data-t="1658">So that means that in order for Platter to v the site, he would have had to hit that yes on that disclaimer that he was ready to pump. Oh my god. Do you Platter here was ready to pump this afternoon? Well, how people were ready to pump this afternoon? Different reasons.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1674">27:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1674" data-t="1674">I mean, I feel like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1676" data-t="1676">they set up a failed purity test. It's like a trap going to the website</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1681" data-t="1681">and clicking that disclaimer. They get cluttered every time that he's going there to hold,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1687" data-t="1687">people accountable.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1688" data-t="1688">Yeah. It looks like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1691" data-t="1691">the Charlie Kirk meme coin</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1695">28:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1695" data-t="1695">is, like, the third one in the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1699" data-t="1699">featured category. It's like it's already down</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1703" data-t="1703">90%.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1704" data-t="1704">So when did they they launched this it looks like they launched it right when he got shot,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1709" data-t="1709">probably.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1710" data-t="1710">It's right around here. Right?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1713">28:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1713" data-t="1713">Yeah. They probably,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1715" data-t="1715">you know What was the first time? I wonder which Discord server you gotta be in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1721" data-t="1721">to be in early on one of these. You know? I got keep on getting notifications.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1725">28:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1725" data-t="1725">It looks like Nick Foster is zapping us. Mister or Nick Foster asked,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1731" data-t="1731">mister Greaser, how many cigarettes does the new</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1734" data-t="1734">two terabyte iPhone cost? Let's do some math.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1740">28:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1740" data-t="1740">Do you know how much the new iPhone cost? I don't. I'm a I'll look it up right now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1745">29:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1745" data-t="1745">I keep on seeing people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1749" data-t="1749">tweet about it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1752">29:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1752" data-t="1752">Yeah. There's a bunch of memes, but I didn't see the price. See, I I I figured it'd be pretty must not be too bad because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1759" data-t="1759">nobody's complaining. No. It's probably looks like a thousand dollars.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1764">29:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1764" data-t="1764">Well, a two terabyte one costs more. Well, if it's a thousand dollars,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1768" data-t="1768">that's a thousand cigarettes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1771" data-t="1771">Sorry. Sorry. No. No.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1773" data-t="1773">I'm doing math at the end of the day.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1776">29:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1776" data-t="1776">I'm a journalist. I don't think Jeff Booth's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1780" data-t="1780">theory about deflation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1782" data-t="1782">will,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1784" data-t="1784">start thinking in soon. We get, one of these two terabyte iPhones for,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1788" data-t="1788">you know, 50 cigarettes or something?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1792">29:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1792" data-t="1792">Roughly yeah. I mean, it's roughly a thousand cigarettes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1796" data-t="1796">Depends on how you price cigarettes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1798" data-t="1798">I guess.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1799" data-t="1799">You price in them Lucy's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1801" data-t="1801">it's 1,000.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1803" data-t="1803">The problem is the the packs fluctuate and and cost so much. I think I bought this You know, it depends if you if you need new ports or</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1813">30:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1813" data-t="1813">Turkish, you know, some kind of Turkish blend.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1816" data-t="1816">It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1818" data-t="1818">it's it's kinda like what we talked about with Otis Bittmeyer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1821" data-t="1821">I'm glad that the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1823" data-t="1823">the cigarette companies, the tobacco companies do not get as</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1828" data-t="1828">retarded</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1830">30:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1830" data-t="1830">as the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1831" data-t="1831">coffee guys, like, worrying about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1833" data-t="1833">exploiting each other in the in the supply chain. Just give me the cigarettes, bro.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1838">30:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1838" data-t="1838">Well, the nice thing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1840" data-t="1840">about Bitcoin going down recently is it makes calculating the price of cigarettes a little bit more easy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1847" data-t="1847">There is this we're on we were right at the 100,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1850" data-t="1850">range.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1852">30:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1852" data-t="1852">It was so easy to price cigarettes. Show back to Twitter, see what people are talking about. Plotter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1857" data-t="1857">Just at that four u tab. Let's see what Twitter wants us to think about tonight</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1862" data-t="1862">in amidst all of this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1864" data-t="1864">you know, somebody said Twitter's got the zoomies today.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1868" data-t="1868">That sounds about right.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1871">31:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1871" data-t="1871">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1874" data-t="1874">Got Charlie Spears.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1876" data-t="1876">You even listened to Charlie's podcast?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1881">31:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1881" data-t="1881">Yeah. I like them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1883" data-t="1883">I think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1885" data-t="1885">yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1886">31:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1886" data-t="1886">I was listening to the one that he did with Colin Harper. I'm not sure what it was called, but I thought it was pretty good.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1893" data-t="1893">But he says,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1895" data-t="1895">Bitcoin is for enemies, not for JPEGs. It's true.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1899" data-t="1899">That definitely wasn't a tweet for the, algorithm. That can mean a lot of things. Samsung's tweeting about how Ethereum sucks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1908" data-t="1908">What's his play here?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1909" data-t="1909">He he tweets about Tether, and then he talks about how Ethereum sucks, but Ethereum is how everybody uses Tether.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1916">31:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1916" data-t="1916">Is he a fan of Tron?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1918">31:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1918" data-t="1918">Well, he probably wishes they'd use Tether on liquid.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1923">32:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1923" data-t="1923">I mean, what what's what's liquid look like right now?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1930" data-t="1930">I don't know. Look.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1933">32:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1933" data-t="1933">Liquid really has an option on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1936" data-t="1936">Liquid really hasn't been on the top of my mind today.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1939" data-t="1939">I don't think Blinkwood has been on a lot of people's minds today</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1943" data-t="1943">or most days.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1945">32:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1945" data-t="1945">Yeah. I think it's most days people aren't thinking about liquid. Every once in a while, I'll hear about it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1950" data-t="1950">Jimmy Song was saying that we don't need covenants because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1954" data-t="1954">you can do it on liquid.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1956">32:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1956" data-t="1956">So I think there's probably about as much real demand for covenants as there is liquid, so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1961" data-t="1961">might as well combine them.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1963">32:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1963" data-t="1963">That makes sense. Yeah. Maybe Jimmy's right about that, but Jimmy's thinking about liquid.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1969" data-t="1969">So, like, my whole feed is just Ben Jossman.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1973" data-t="1973">I guess Twitter doesn't</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1975">32:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1975" data-t="1975">If you watch Ben Jossman, you follow him.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1978" data-t="1978">He's got, like, a professional camera crew that follows him around and takes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1982" data-t="1982">they're all open mouth thumbnails, but they're kinda like, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1986" data-t="1986">Mumford and Sons</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1989" data-t="1989">hip you know, hipster</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1991">33:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1991" data-t="1991">modeling pictures. I was just gonna say, I love Ben Josslyn so much.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1997">33:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1997" data-t="1997">Alright. What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2001" data-t="2001">I don't know if Lobka knows how to tweet without doing the, read more, going over the characters.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2007" data-t="2007">He's a he's a he he's a self admitted word sell.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2013" data-t="2013">He wants AI to you, think. Maybe that is what AI condensed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2017" data-t="2017">his stream of kite. Anyways, he goes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2020" data-t="2020">this feels like a historic moment,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2023">33:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2023" data-t="2023">both a tonal breakdown and future test</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2026" data-t="2026">of values that, built this country.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2028" data-t="2028">The only way through this period will be one of honest reckoning with the forces which have shaped</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2034" data-t="2034">the last two decades.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2036" data-t="2036">If we cannot speak clearly and openly about how we got here,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2040" data-t="2040">the only remaining options are likely worse than you would want. America is and has always been an ideological country. The country was founded on ideals,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2051">34:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2051" data-t="2051">and the forces which have taken us to this point have been a widespread adoption of mainly contradictory</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2058" data-t="2058">ideals.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2059" data-t="2059">These two sets of ideology are unlikely or excuse me, are likely fundamentally incompatible</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2065" data-t="2065">with each other.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2066" data-t="2066">And this must be, truly and legibly hashed out in the public arena.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2071" data-t="2071">While there's certainly much more going on here than ideas,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2075">34:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2075" data-t="2075">none of this is separate from ideas. The main, to maintain an intact nation that we must</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2081" data-t="2081">put the ideas of the last few decades on trial,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2084" data-t="2084">and we must decide.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2087" data-t="2087">I agree.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2090" data-t="2090">I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2091" data-t="2091">a lot of people,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2093">34:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2093" data-t="2093">whether they articulate it that way or not, did agree with that before today.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2097" data-t="2097">The problem with today is that the dude who literally</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2102" data-t="2102">hit his podcast, his entire persona,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2105" data-t="2105">his whole mission,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2107" data-t="2107">was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2108" data-t="2108">doing this, like getting people</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2110">35:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2110" data-t="2110">in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2111" data-t="2111">a debate, a discourse about their ideology. You know, he likes to bully and pick on,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2118" data-t="2118">retarded Levittards at college.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2121" data-t="2121">He did a really good job of it. He was be you know, Ben Shapiro kinda started it, and Charlie wrecked or, Charlie Kirk mastered it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2129" data-t="2129">And they tilled him for it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2132" data-t="2132">That if you try to do what Steven's doing, you're putting your life on the line and that is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2137">35:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2137" data-t="2137">one of the cruxes, bro, we have to hash this out and people who are willing to be honest and tell the truth or at least tell the truth</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2146" data-t="2146">based on their ideals and their perspectives</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2148" data-t="2148">are getting their, you know, necks exploded.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2152" data-t="2152">It's it's a spec this is like reality TV connect. This is the result of that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2157" data-t="2157">And that's the problem,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2159" data-t="2159">and Bitcoin podcasters.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2163">36:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2163" data-t="2163">We pride ourselves on being outspoken,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2166" data-t="2166">having</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2167" data-t="2167">challenging, controversial</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2168" data-t="2168">ideas.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2170" data-t="2170">Some of that's a larp,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2172" data-t="2172">not all of it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2174">36:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2174" data-t="2174">But this is why I mean, this is why you're wearing a a bulletproof vest. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2178" data-t="2178">Like, sharing your ideas</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2180" data-t="2180">on your Bitcoin podcast could cost you your life now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2185">36:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2185" data-t="2185">I think we need to consult the Bitcoin veterans to to see what type of bulletproof vest is is proper</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2191" data-t="2191">to protect you while you're podcasting, while you're, debating these ideas in the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2196" data-t="2196">in the public square.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2199" data-t="2199">You know, this is kind of like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2202" data-t="2202">kind of like a naive</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2204" data-t="2204">view, I think, by Steven.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2207">36:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2207" data-t="2207">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2208" data-t="2208">it's a view a lot of people like to say. Like, you know, the ideas need to be discussed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2213" data-t="2213">in the public square. There needs to be a marketplace for ideas. Like, the you know, the problem is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2219" data-t="2219">is that a good portion of society is dumb.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2223" data-t="2223">They don't know how to discern accurate information,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2227" data-t="2227">and that most of the ideas being hashed out in the public square are dumb.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2232">37:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2232" data-t="2232">You can just look at the the share of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2234" data-t="2234">market share of people who send the Bitcoin podcast is versus non Bitcoin podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2240" data-t="2240">But, like, I agree. People should be able to speak.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2243" data-t="2243">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2246" data-t="2246">it is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2247" data-t="2247">pretty wild. Like, I think</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2250">37:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2250" data-t="2250">if if you're having to resort to physical violence</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2255" data-t="2255">over ideas</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2257" data-t="2257">being spread</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2260" data-t="2260">in order to protect your view. I mean, I guess it's way it's way too we're a lot of us are making conclusions on the motivation of the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2268" data-t="2268">of the killer. I think the assumption is because it was a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2272" data-t="2272">a podcaster</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2274">37:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2274" data-t="2274">that got killed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2276" data-t="2276">It was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2277" data-t="2277">motivated by trying to control speech.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2281" data-t="2281">But, I think one of the unfortunate realities of the foreturning</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2285" data-t="2285">yeah. I don't wanna participate in any of it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2288" data-t="2288">but one of the unfortunate realities of the foreturning is violent. Like, it's just as, like, one of those inevitabilities.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2295">38:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2295" data-t="2295">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2297" data-t="2297">we're just watching it play out.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2301">38:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2301" data-t="2301">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2301">You this is one of those situations. Say you don't wanna participate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2305" data-t="2305">in any of it. I don't either.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2307" data-t="2307">And that's again what people have been kinda talking about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2310" data-t="2310">in so many ways to say the same thing is that they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2314" data-t="2314">we want</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2316">38:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2316" data-t="2316">a society</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2317" data-t="2317">that puts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2319" data-t="2319">politics and free discussion over violence.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2323" data-t="2323">We want that. We want well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2325" data-t="2325">trans people wanna be the other gender and they want you to affirm them, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2331" data-t="2331">but that's just not the truth.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2333">38:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2333" data-t="2333">You know, people want utopia. They want Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2338" data-t="2338">to work the way that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2339" data-t="2339">they believe it should work. They don't want anybody else to have any</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2343" data-t="2343">impact or influence over it. And any</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2345" data-t="2345">control by somebody else is, you know, attack on Bitcoin. It it's evil. It's worth death threats. You're committing a death threat against Bitcoin, whatever that means.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2356" data-t="2356">But not every, you know, not everything blows down to something that retarded.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2360">39:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2360" data-t="2360">The point is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2365" data-t="2365">I don't know. I kinda lost my train of thought there, but it's it's Yeah. I mean,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2371">39:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2371" data-t="2371">I I think a lot of people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2373" data-t="2373">like, it's it's okay to get wrapped up in an idea</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2377" data-t="2377">as a utopia</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2379" data-t="2379">vision for it and getting all excited about it. Oh, yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2383">39:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2383" data-t="2383">But Yeah. Yeah. My point is, well, we want this violence, and we want what it seems like we're going towards.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2390" data-t="2390">But too bad, we're already there. Yeah. That's the point. Right? You're not gonna wake up tomorrow's World War three, tomorrow's Civil War. We're already</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2398" data-t="2398">there.</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2398">Somebody had a point the other day or earlier the day I read and it said,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2404" data-t="2404">anything that happens next because of this was gonna happen anyway.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2408" data-t="2408">And I to, like, to an extent, maybe that's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2411">40:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2411" data-t="2411">hyperbole, but it's not like this has been set in motion. And if you you still don't notice that, you still don't recognize that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2419" data-t="2419">This is why we're talking about you need to listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast per week because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2423" data-t="2423">this none of this shit should be surprising to you and you should be anticipating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2431" data-t="2431">more</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2432" data-t="2432">unexpected</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2433" data-t="2433">crazy scary stuff like this.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2436">40:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2436" data-t="2436">It's not just gonna get better. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2439">40:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2439" data-t="2439">I think it's okay to get excited about things because you have a you get bought into the utopian vision of it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2446" data-t="2446">But at a certain point, you're gonna become an adult and just, like, understand that whatever your utopian idea was done, and it wasn't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2455" data-t="2455">realistic.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2456" data-t="2456">You can have a utopia</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2458" data-t="2458">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2460" data-t="2460">like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2461">41:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2461" data-t="2461">create these utopia and ideas, I think, on a micro level. But the macro level of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2467" data-t="2467">trying to control everybody else, like, just because you got all excited about Bitcoin and you understand it and you listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast a week, doesn't mean that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2477" data-t="2477">because you were able to get it that everybody else in the world is magically gonna get it. But yeah. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2484" data-t="2484">it's kind of those I'm still waiting for this moment when, Bitcoin defunds the state and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2490" data-t="2490">and stops war.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2492" data-t="2492">It's interesting. Ever since the strategic reserve,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2497">41:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2497" data-t="2497">happened, it seems like the war's just been ramping up.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2502" data-t="2502">Kind of an interesting phenomenon.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2505" data-t="2505">What What do you think? Is this part of the game theory?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2509">41:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2509" data-t="2509">Can you repeat that again? I mean, I think I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2512" data-t="2512">I crack what you're saying, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2515" data-t="2515">war has been ramping up as it like, so, like, Bitcoin is making</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2519" data-t="2519">is racing us towards war or the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2522" data-t="2522">the strategic reserve itself?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2526">42:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2526" data-t="2526">No. No. We we just all these Bitcoin podcasters have been talking about how Bitcoin ends war. We got the strategic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2533" data-t="2533">war reserve.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2535" data-t="2535">It seems like war is just ramping up. What's going on here?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2539" data-t="2539">Was the utopian vision a a lie or,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2544" data-t="2544">is it too early to say that? Or,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2547" data-t="2547">Whenever</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2549">42:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2549" data-t="2549">I am my approach to this question is always</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2553" data-t="2553">the answer is lower your time preference.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2555" data-t="2555">I don't know. I don't know if Bitcoin, the strategic Bitcoin reserve is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2560" data-t="2560">the magic bullet</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2563" data-t="2563">that it pulls The United States out of war with, you know, in The Middle East.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2567" data-t="2567">You know, just all the Israel stuff, the war the wars that we're trying to help them manage. I don't know if</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2573">42:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2573" data-t="2573">Bitcoin is the magic the strategic Bitcoin reserve is the magic bullet to get us to stop assassinating,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2580" data-t="2580">you know, people in the global South and running coup</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2584" data-t="2584">against their governments and throwing them out of helicopters.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2587" data-t="2587">I don't know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2589" data-t="2589">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2590" data-t="2590">it might be.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2592">43:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2592" data-t="2592">And we'll find out eventually because you just got all your time preference. I think it's too early to be positive, I think, in in celebrate, but it's it's obviously</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2599" data-t="2599">it's also too early to give up.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2602" data-t="2602">But Justin Betchler,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2605" data-t="2605">he he's been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2606" data-t="2606">ready to give up on the strategic Bitcoin reserve before Trump even took office. He thought he he's just he's so against it, but I just we have to give it time. Did you watch Trump's,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2616">43:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2616" data-t="2616">Oval Office speech yet?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2619">43:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2619" data-t="2619">I did. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2621">43:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2621" data-t="2621">I haven't seen it yet. Should we play that real quick? I think he will he can go.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2626">43:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2626" data-t="2626">Well, yeah. Maybe play some of it. It's a little bit long. He was respected by youth. You know?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2631">43:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2631" data-t="2631">He was respect he made</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2634" data-t="2634">boomer conservative politics calls for the broccoli haircuts.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2639">43:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2639" data-t="2639">Broccoli haircuts. First thing they did was make a meme coin when he passed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2644" data-t="2644">He was so this is another thing that I think is important.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2649" data-t="2649">Charlie Kirk was incredibly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2651" data-t="2651">popular</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2652" data-t="2652">with people under with dudes 30.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2657" data-t="2657">I don't mean I don't mean this to be, like, alarming,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2660">44:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2660" data-t="2660">but it's it's worth knowing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2662" data-t="2662">The death of the murder of Charlie Kirkpatrick has inspired</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2665" data-t="2665">and angered</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2667" data-t="2667">a lot of military</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2668" data-t="2668">aged males in The United States who are already</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2671" data-t="2671">getting pretty fucking pissed off and, like, fed up with things.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2676">44:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2676" data-t="2676">Maybe they beat the shit out of broccoli, haircut, big balls. Remember big balls? You got beat up trying to help somebody,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2683" data-t="2683">being assaulted by criminal in Washington, DC. That was part of, like, why they'd rock with national guard. It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2689" data-t="2689">it's a very hot,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2691" data-t="2691">conflict with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2694" data-t="2694">with these type of people, and I but it makes me think that the only ending here</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2702" data-t="2702">is going to be, like, it's gonna they're gonna tear we're gonna tear down George Floyd statues,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2707">45:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2707" data-t="2707">to replace them with Charlie Kirk statues.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2712" data-t="2712">Not just metaphorically, I think literally, that's what I think that's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2716" data-t="2716">part of how this ends.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2717" data-t="2717">It's not a joke. I think they're gonna put out they're gonna replace the the George Floyd statues, the Charlie Kirk statues. I was kinda hoping it'd be the hot Ukraine as well. Yeah. Well, we got enough Ukraine memorials and flags out there right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2731" data-t="2731">God knows. I feel so I really you know?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2735">45:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2735" data-t="2735">Hot blonde Ukrainian girls are different than a Ukrainian flag. That's for sure.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2741">45:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2741" data-t="2741">Yeah. That's that's a good point.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2744">45:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2744" data-t="2744">One of the things I just wanna say real quick, so I was I went into the comments of the post. So, I I started seeing this rhetoric</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2752" data-t="2752">being shared around on on Twitter, on Telegram. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2756" data-t="2756">American a AF says,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2758" data-t="2758">we need this. So, apparently, in 2013,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2761" data-t="2761">Trump tweeted something about needing a public execution. So it should be public execution</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2767" data-t="2767">for all to see you will end this bullshit fast.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2772">46:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2772" data-t="2772">The the one issue I have with that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2775" data-t="2775">I'm not really gonna comment on the merit of public education or, sorry, executions.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2780" data-t="2780">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2781" data-t="2781">the one</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2783" data-t="2783">issue I take with the timing of the tweet is they still haven't found the guy yet.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2788" data-t="2788">And it sounds like the first guy that they arrested that everybody was able to cruise willing to crucify,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2797">46:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2797" data-t="2797">wasn't involved in the shooting at all.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2801" data-t="2801">And I think this is kinda like the this is like one of those dangerous spots you get into with the with the vigilante justice</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2808" data-t="2808">when people are out re ready for blood, ready to lynch people.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2812" data-t="2812">I don't really like that very much. And part of the reason, like, I I think it's just like, people need to slow down,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2818" data-t="2818">and they need to ask,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2820" data-t="2820">what if you were the innocent person in this situation?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2823">47:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2823" data-t="2823">What would you how would you want people to treat you?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2826" data-t="2826">Would you want them to get angry</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2828" data-t="2828">at you and just, like, hanging from a tree by your neck with a rope?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2833" data-t="2833">Or do you want them to slow down and think and make sure that they got the right guy?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2838" data-t="2838">I don't know where we're getting these stream chats from, but Charlie Spears,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2842" data-t="2842">just calm. Yeah. Charlie said, good thing we got our vest on.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2846">47:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2846" data-t="2846">Charlie, you gotta get a vest too, man. After,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2849" data-t="2849">the, you know, kind of the timing of Osanoa Gold</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2853" data-t="2853">tweeting about, how the spammers are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2858" data-t="2858">creating death threats on Bitcoin and then Charlie Kirk getting shot. I think it's a good time for,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2863" data-t="2863">Bitcoin podcasters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2865" data-t="2865">to follow Tatum's,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2871">47:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2871" data-t="2871">example. Charlie says he's watching on YouTube. That's interesting. I didn't know anybody knew that we had a YouTube channel.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2880" data-t="2880">Yeah, Rod.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2881" data-t="2881">I don't know if we should ramble a whole lot more, but yeah. It what a weird day, folks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2887" data-t="2887">It's a sad day.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2889" data-t="2889">It's a real day. It's good for some</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2892">48:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2892" data-t="2892">it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2893" data-t="2893">it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2894" data-t="2894">feels like a big day because I think it is. I I don't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2898" data-t="2898">I don't know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2900" data-t="2900">what happens next year, how fast it happens,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2903" data-t="2903">but Bitcoin doesn't care. Did you agree?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2907">48:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2907" data-t="2907">We'll see. Yeah. I mean, Bitcoin's down a little bit or up a little bit today.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2913" data-t="2913">Didn't really move.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2915" data-t="2915">Alright. We were chatting in the group chat the other night.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2919" data-t="2919">You you had a great</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2920" data-t="2920">a great</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2922" data-t="2922">comment,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2924">48:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2924" data-t="2924">which was that, you knew that the Polish situation wasn't a big deal because the Bitcoin price didn't crash. Right. They're trying to make they're trying to make it seem</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2936">48:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2936" data-t="2936">like NATO and Russia were facing off. Like, the the hot war was kicking off. Like, this was as usual where nobody saw it coming. The the implications, this and that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2947" data-t="2947">They coming it was, like, not even down a half a percent.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2951" data-t="2951">You know, when</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2953" data-t="2953">Israel</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2953">and and Iran have their little fake,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2956" data-t="2956">SIOP missile launch wars back and forth like, the afternoon before that happens, like, bickling dumps 7%, 10%,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2965">49:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2965" data-t="2965">they didn't do that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2967" data-t="2967">in Poland, so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2969" data-t="2969">I don't know. I just wasn't buying the hype, I guess.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2972">49:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2972" data-t="2972">Maybe that's why Satoshi wants, NATO to attack Russia so that he could buy Bitcoin buy the Bitcoin dip. Maybe he's a little bit long fiat right now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2984">49:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2984" data-t="2984">That makes that makes more sense.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2988">49:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2988" data-t="2988">What?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2989" data-t="2989">Alright. One last tweet. What the hell is this? Alex Leishman says no more debating.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2995">49:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2995" data-t="2995">I think, you know, Charlie Kirk, his thing was debating, and, he's not gonna do it anymore.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3001" data-t="3001">Maybe he's I don't know.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3005">50:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3005" data-t="3005">You got all these goofballs. He he's probably talking about Charlie Kirk, but you got all these goofballs,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3011">50:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3011" data-t="3011">talking about Corvus. Yeah. Yeah. I I think it's, you know, I think it's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3017" data-t="3017">I think she's saying that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3019" data-t="3019">we have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3020" data-t="3020">debated enough about whether we should shoot and kill podcasters, and we're done debating. We don't think that it is okay.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3029">50:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3029" data-t="3029">I hope so. I don't I don't think that's the context of what he's saying,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3035" data-t="3035">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3037" data-t="3037">I don't know. Well, anyways, let us know if you like this stream. We'll, we'll probably do stuff like this in the future.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3044" data-t="3044">It's been a long day.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3046" data-t="3046">It's been a long news cycle.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3049" data-t="3049">Started out early.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3052">50:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3052" data-t="3052">You were tweeting about the Vatican,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3055" data-t="3055">their stance on nodes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3058" data-t="3058">Thought that was pretty interesting. Then we had a podcaster get shot, and then there's wars going on.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3064">51:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3064" data-t="3064">Looks like looks like Boomer tagged us.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3068" data-t="3068">Frankie McDonald posted a video. You know, Frankie McDonald,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3072" data-t="3072">the big</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3075" data-t="3075">guy. Frankie posted a it says, I wasn't anywhere near the state of Utah at all.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3081" data-t="3081">Period.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3082" data-t="3082">So Frankie McDonald was</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3084">51:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3084" data-t="3084">distancing. He wanna make sure people knew that he was not responsible.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3091" data-t="3091">Thank you, Frankie.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3093">51:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3093" data-t="3093">I think that counts as a denouncement of violence. I don't know. Is that enough to vindicate Frankie? Should he still be on the suspect list? I don't think Frankie or her fly. Every time every time something happens,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3105" data-t="3105">Frankie makes sure to let people know that he's innocent.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3110" data-t="3110">If you do that enough, you might be guilty. With as little as, you know, the authorities seem to know on, the actual shooter, if they I guess, we haven't been checking the news since we've been streaming, but it doesn't sound like they apprehended the guy yet.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3124" data-t="3124">I guess you gotta keep all Let's be</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3127">52:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3127" data-t="3127">and let's face it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3129" data-t="3129">No way</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3131" data-t="3131">no way the plugs on Twitter are gonna buy the fad. It is they're not gonna believe whoever they catch</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3137" data-t="3137">is the person behind it. We probably will never know or feel a 100% sure</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3143" data-t="3143">that they called the right guy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3145" data-t="3145">Everything's a conspiracy these days. That's all it's this</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3148">52:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3148" data-t="3148">this is just the next one. Well, before we wrap this up, you got any</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3153" data-t="3153">any closing thoughts?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3155" data-t="3155">Do you wanna talk about a kid's ass tweet?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3160" data-t="3160">Always. She's always she's got some profound stuff she's been tweeting recently.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3165" data-t="3165">I haven't read this yet, but I just assume it's profound. Just a hard hitter right here.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3170" data-t="3170">Sometimes I still can't believe they let regular people like me buy Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3178">52:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3178" data-t="3178">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3179" data-t="3179">that's the view you Bitcoin to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3182" data-t="3182">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3184" data-t="3184">sets.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3185" data-t="3185">Whether you're a regular person,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3188" data-t="3188">whether you're a libtard,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3190">53:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3190" data-t="3190">whether you're a Nazi,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3193" data-t="3193">whether you're the CIA.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3196" data-t="3196">It's not about them letting you. It's a permissionless</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3199" data-t="3199">technology</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3200" data-t="3200">in</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3200">if kids at could figure out</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3203">53:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3203" data-t="3203">Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3205" data-t="3205">and how to get some, anybody can.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3208" data-t="3208">I think it's a good message.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3210">53:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3210" data-t="3210">She has the most profound tweets. She's truly a philosopher</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3214" data-t="3214">in her own right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3215" data-t="3215">Let's look at</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3217" data-t="3217">I think this is a good way to close it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3219" data-t="3219">Let's go through her other profound tweets she's got. We didn't she retweeted people about Jesus.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3225" data-t="3225">Let's look for some originals. Here we go.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3228">53:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3228" data-t="3228">Sometimes I stop tweeting about Bitcoin to scroll Bitcoin memes instead. Relatable. So profound.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3236" data-t="3236">You're gonna let her know.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3239" data-t="3239">Profile.</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3239">Let's see what what's her next banger?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3243" data-t="3243">She retweeting my call for that's interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3247" data-t="3247">So</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3248">54:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3248" data-t="3248">oh, she already What's what is, what's more sus?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3253" data-t="3253">Selling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3255" data-t="3255">alcohol for Bitcoin or retweeting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3257" data-t="3257">Mike Alfred?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3260">54:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3260" data-t="3260">Well, she retweeted Mike Alfred and Nick Carter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3264" data-t="3264">And he got platter on the case. What's going on over here? Fun fact, In 2030,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3269" data-t="3269">people will wish they bought just point o one Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3273" data-t="3273">in 2025.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3277" data-t="3277">833</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3278" data-t="3278">likes.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3280">54:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3280" data-t="3280">I think people are gonna wish they bought,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3284">54:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3284" data-t="3284">you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3286">54:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3286" data-t="3286">as much Bitcoin as they could more than 0.01.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3289" data-t="3289">But, yeah, I mean, I I always wish I bought</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3292" data-t="3292">some stats in the past.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3295">54:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3295" data-t="3295">That's such a fun fact.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3297">54:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3297" data-t="3297">It is fun.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3300" data-t="3300">Just getting 0.01</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3302" data-t="3302">Bitcoin will be enough to put your mom in a retirement home in 2030? Good question. Is is would that be enough to to afford,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3309">55:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3309" data-t="3309">getting all the thetans out of me in the Church of Scientology</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3312" data-t="3312">by 2030?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3314" data-t="3314">Maybe.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3317" data-t="3317">She's retweeting Gary Card out.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3319" data-t="3319">It's quite a quite a,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3323">55:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3323" data-t="3323">sure, tweeted Dieter. Well, folks, remember to think for yourself.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3327" data-t="3327">It's the only really easy outsource you're thinking.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3332" data-t="3332">Next few days, next few weeks, next few years,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3337" data-t="3337">Not everybody has to run it out and not everybody has to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3342" data-t="3342">think for themselves in every situation but if you are going</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3346" data-t="3346">to outsource your thinking,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3350">55:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3350" data-t="3350">Be very, very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3352" data-t="3352">be very, very careful.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3356">55:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3356" data-t="3356">Yeah. Bitcoin veterans, let us know, which,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3359" data-t="3359">type of bulletproof vest that you think Bitcoin podcasters should wear. Should it be just basic Kevlar? Should it be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3367" data-t="3367">a level three place? Should it be level four place?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3370" data-t="3370">I guess I haven't I haven't looked at both her best for a while, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3375" data-t="3375">I need to get a press patch</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3378" data-t="3378">for mine.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3380">56:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3380" data-t="3380">Like, I'll I'll get that one of those I think the last thing</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3384">56:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3384" data-t="3384">you want right now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3386" data-t="3386">is press pass. I think you wanna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3390" data-t="3390">bullet through vest,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3391" data-t="3391">and, I think you wanted to cover anything that tells people that you're the press. So I feel like that's probably gonna make you a bigger target.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3399">56:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3399" data-t="3399">So should should I get a protester</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3402" data-t="3402">patch then?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3403">56:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3403" data-t="3403">Podcaster.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3405" data-t="3405">About a yeah. I don't know. That might not be good either.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3410">56:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3410" data-t="3410">Podcasters are the targets today, though. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3414" data-t="3414">I need a patch, though.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3415" data-t="3415">Alright, folks. Thank you for, tuning into this impromptu</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3419" data-t="3419">stream, and we'll,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3420" data-t="3420">catch you sometime soon.</span></span></p>