0:01Richard Greaser Alright, folks. We are live. Today is a very sad day. Today, we witnessed an on person attack on podcasting. While while Charlie Kirk was not a Bitcoin podcaster, he was a podcaster. He was part of

0:23Richard Greaser the rise of podcasting, a very notable figure in the podcasting ecosystem, a pioneer in his own right in the media ecosystem. And I would say as a journalist, as a podcaster, it is a very sad day. I know a lot of people are feeling sad. A lot of podcasters are feeling scared.

0:43Richard Greaser For the time being, we're gonna be podcasting, or at least I will be podcasting in a bulletproof vest. This is the fourth turning. And, you know, a lot of people laugh to Tatum turn up in his bulletproof vest. Nobody's laughing at Tatum turn up now.

1:03Rod Palmer We laughed we laughed at Tatum when we interviewed him a few weeks ago. But I if if it can happen if it can happen to somebody like Charlie, that's the thing. He I know. I I didn't really listen to Charlie

1:21Rod Palmer Curves podcast. I I didn't listen to him too. I didn't pay too much attention to him. And a lot of nobody else did either. So, like, right now, it's it's just a stupid thing that doesn't make any sense. And if you're you've been scrolling the timeline the past few days, he'd probably tell you like, I want to avoid this like, recent video I didn't did not want to spend my week looking at people's necks explode,

1:49Rod Palmer and bleed out, you know, as some people either just stand there and take selfies or, you know, just scream and run a lead, but

2:02Rod Palmer you might as well. You might as well. If you're curious, you might as well look at the, videos because you really don't have a choice anymore. It's time to face reality. You like, you're not gonna be able to go on social media, and not see a murder video every other post no matter what you can plutters and I'm not interested in all these posts you still get. You can't avoid it. It's unavoidable.

2:24Rod Palmer The world is it is no everybody's blashering today on on Twitter, saying we we don't want violence over politics. Well, guess what? Nobody wants violence over politics, but we have violence over it. We it's not new. I mean, Charlie Kirk was not

2:43Rod Palmer the first, political you know, somebody who was a victim of political violence, he won't be the last, unfortunately. But yeah, nobody's for, like, it we're however I mean, the last thing we need right now is is more people posting about what

3:00Rod Palmer bad thing they were against. Okay. Well, it's not helping. I apologize.

3:06Richard Greaser Looks like I was checking to see that we're live on primal. Looks like we are. Looks like it works. You can go live on Primal now. That's pretty cool. We're live on ZapStream too. People are starting to flow on Twitter. But, yeah, there's a lot of people trying to milk this right now. One of the things that I find really stunning is when, politicians who use political violence on a daily basis

3:37Richard Greaser in one form or another, Especially the politicians that are in charge of, like, the National Guard or the Police Department of some sort. They're wielding a lot of political violence. And they they go out and tweet that there's no room for political violence. I find that pretty stunning, but then there's also the, the motivational

3:60Richard Greaser speaker, an influencer, the visionary, this the the Bitcoin wallet CEO, pioneer,

4:11Richard Greaser that also try and use this as an opportunity. This is an attack on Bitcoin podcasting, folks. It's an attack on journalism, and we're gonna see more of this. And you gotta prepare. This is the fourth turning.

4:30Rod Palmer Yeah. The, we're gonna go through and read some of the crazy reactions of the timeline. Well, one of them I saw today, it was like a communist libtard and they were doing what, you know, half of the communist libtards were doing. It's like, it's saying how they, you know, argue with each other about did he deserve it or not. Damn, this is the one, you know, he was saying like, this is horrific. He was acknowledging the depth of the situation.

4:55Rod Palmer And one of his responses was, Vince, Charlie Kirk, and I quote, actively campaigned against the concept of empathy. And I don't I have no idea what that means, but I think it wouldn't surprise me to log on and hear that a Bitcoin podcaster that I've listened to and I respect and I think is a good person could be accused

5:21Rod Palmer of championing against empathy or something similar. I just don't think that, that's we should be shooting people over their, their tampines for or against the concept of

5:35Richard Greaser of words like empathy. It's just, it's kinda crazy. That is a strange one. I haven't heard of that.

5:43Rod Palmer So people It's a failure test. Right? It's just, you know, somebody out there, their most important purity test is your, you know, are you an acting campaigner for the concept of of entity? That is their you can't please everybody. And then, if you fail too many purity tests, you have no allies in these situations.

6:03Richard Greaser That's something that they didn't talk about in the four attorney book. Is it this

6:09Rod Palmer acceleration of purity test? They did, actually. That was a that was kind of a big part of it.

6:15Richard Greaser They talked about purity. They said that when the fourth turning happens, people, go crazy and issue unlimited amounts of purity test?

6:23Rod Palmer Well, they didn't call it purity test there, but they did caught talk about the politicizing of, all all behavior, all moral perspectives, and litigating those in public and coming to conflict there.

6:37Rod Palmer Yeah. That that's my interpretation. That's it. It sounds a lot like purity test discourse to me.

6:44Richard Greaser Sounds like I re need to reread that book, like, as soon as possible.

6:48Rod Palmer I think so too. I'm I I think I need to read it again as well because it it was written in the nineties, but it did a lot. You know, not down to the date or a specific, you know, situation like what happened today, but just the broader vibes,

7:10Rod Palmer the broader approach people start the changes in behavior towards predictable you know, back towards their natural incentives. And it seems like that is the, divide

7:25Rod Palmer right now.

7:28Richard Greaser Makes sense. Well, we had a good time. Do you have a good time with, talking to Joey?

7:34Rod Palmer Yeah. If you haven't seen that, we, we went on the Canadian Bitcoin podcast earlier tonight. That should be up found. You can boost it there. I don't know if, I don't know if if if the Canadian Bitcoin podcast audience was ready for us. Well, I think it was mostly just Boomer.

7:58Richard Greaser Boomer is ready for us. Boomer is always ready for us. He know he knows what to expect. Yeah. I was I was monitoring the chat. Yeah. Canadians are just built different. Canadians are built different. But, yeah, one of the things I wanted to do tonight is, I I guess we could do live reactions, to people's tweets. You know, the the only silver lining

8:23Richard Greaser in this situation and it feels kinda crass to even mention that there's a silver lining. But this silver lining to the Charlie Kirk situation is that my timeline is full of topics other than not for the first time in a long time. Yeah.

8:43Rod Palmer You know, it's it's like a cruel irony or just maybe they those guys have really bad luck but after years of just making no progress just

8:57Rod Palmer insistent discourse Tom or Ever, they could never convince Tom or Jimmy Song. The the company guys, the CQB guys seemed to have found, you know, an ally in Luke, the Nazis, some of them. And it was looking like for the first time, like, Nox had or not Nox,

9:18Rod Palmer CTV had a, you know, a gambler's shot that getting activated, and then boom, Nobody could have predicted a cultural blast swan moment, you know, and now nobody's nobody's gonna talk about covenants again for, you know, couple more years. And basically, the Conan's guys were in at a time to get their,

9:40Rod Palmer code merged before the beginning of the force turning. Do you think the podcaster

9:45Richard Greaser assassination is, an attempt to distract from Covenant?

9:52Rod Palmer I well, I don't know. I have no idea. I would only be speculating, but I think that anything I think most people would consider anything to be a worthy distraction from talking

10:05Richard Greaser more about covenants. I don't know. It's hard it's hard to know. It's hard to draw conclusions in these scenarios as they're developing and breaking. It seems like I I've been following the story a little bit. I've been busy Bitcoin podcasting today, but it seems like the initial guy that they arrested that looked like kind of a diet version of Bernie Sanders

10:29Richard Greaser was not the guy. So Right. The guy so some poor guy probably is getting his life around because they arrested the wrong guy.

10:38Rod Palmer Well, that would, it kinda seemed like after all of a sudden done it, it was he was making a distraction trying to make himself,

10:51Rod Palmer or, you know, did something that made him seem like the sheer and then there was other video that came out of what somebody looked like they were in the prone position on top of a building 200 yards away and that sheer, the barreling river shot, the gun is still at large but it was the way I thought about it it was an old white boomer

11:13Rod Palmer and there's very few people in society right now in bitcoin right now less or more unpopular than old white boomers. And if old white boomers had any ally looking out for them,

11:29Rod Palmer outside their demographic, it was probably, like, white dudes, white Republicans in their twenties and thirties who listened to Charlie Kirk. And when when I saw this dude who's responsible, he was not who I expected. Well, my first thought was like, once I found out that he was not the shooter was that that he'd almost cost

11:50Rod Palmer the boomers their social security because if they lost the Charlie Kirk demographic, boomers so social security was getting cut. You know, college tuition was gonna get paid off or college debt. Something was gonna happen. We were removing social security if that deed is the real shooter. I tweeted about that. I wanna go to this before I start

12:09Richard Greaser going to,

12:10Rod Palmer Las Vegas almost went completely belly up overnight.

12:16Richard Greaser Have you seen this? This is what the brewers are doing now. They've got these, they can't gamble their Social Security checks away fast enough, so they're bringing their massage guns to hit that little button on the slot machines. That's what the boomers are up to. No? Not all of them. They're yeah. I have to say I feel bad because I keep on meeting these, like, solid boomers out there that aren't like this.

12:42Richard Greaser It's hard when there's so many that aren't.

12:45Rod Palmer That regardless of the you know, there are bigomers, of course, big gamers. My point is that that group of people is not very popular, and,

12:56Richard Greaser I don't know.

12:57Rod Palmer It it almost seems like the fact that they didn't touch anybody of Shooter, if they're at large, it almost seems like the worst possible outcome. Because, like, people were worried that it was gonna be, like, somebody from Libs at TikTok that did it, or, like, somebody from Kitty Parties that did it. They were not prepared for the old Bernie Sanders guy.

13:23Rod Palmer But now nobody knows who it is. It could be anybody. Some people think it's Israel. Some people think it is, you know, the CIA. Some people think it's a distraction from Epstein, but the last thing we need right now is another conspiracy theory

13:40Richard Greaser So we're gonna go to jail. Some people thinks it's nonce runners. Some people thinks it's core runners. Some people thinks it's shitcoiners. Some people thinks it's it's a Bitcoin maximalist.

13:52Rod Palmer Yeah. Somebody's speculating that, it was a meme coin assassination. Somebody made a lot of money off of a Charlie Kirk meme coin. Yeah. Planet or definitely thinks it might be the shitcoiners.

14:04Richard Greaser I mean, the the assassination markets is an interesting, topic theory, but we'll get to that. First tweet, Ben Jossman. I I like Ben Jossman. He's a he's a pretty wholesome guy, I would say. What do you think of Ben? Do you like him?

14:24Rod Palmer Today is the Korean guy. Korean wine guy. So it looks like he's responding.

14:29Richard Greaser Some people think, some people are giving him purity test over him selling alcohol. He said, I agreed that, technically, alcohol is poison, and circadian rhythm is vital. However, I think that occasionally staying up until 2AM drinking red wine with people people

14:47Richard Greaser you love is medicinal. I think you should be able to sell whatever you want to, and, as long as it's not hurting somebody.

14:60Rod Palmer Oh, that yeah. That I don't disagree. I just seems like a weird day to be nitpicking that kind of purity test.

15:10Richard Greaser I agree. Tonight today, you know, days like today, it it's interesting because there's different ways to respond to very, like, traumatic events, especially, like, when the the TV and the social media is, like, you know, shoving these videos of people's, like, jugglers exploding in your face. Maybe today's a good night to stay up till 2AM drinking red wine with your family or loved ones.

15:40Rod Palmer Yeah. Do we know who this afternoon, just in the context of what's going on around us on social media and the word who who was it that takes the day to try to cancel Ben Jossman for selling, homemade wine? It's just

15:58Rod Palmer that's a that's an ulcimear response to trauma, right? It's like, you hear about one of the most horrific HD video, you know, assassinations. It's all everybody's talking about. You're like, You know where I it reminds me Ben Jussman fucking everybody thinks he's so cool because he likes Creed. But he's selling alcohol, and that's a theory test violation. I'm gonna go hold him accountable because right now, I don't know if anybody's policing the timeline

16:28Rod Palmer for scammers.

16:29Richard Greaser Yeah. I don't know. Shows where some people's priorities are. Yep. And Satoshi's tweeting is an older one, though. It's thirteen hours. This is probably before Charlie got shot. What do you think of Satoshi and all of his crazy tweets?

16:49Rod Palmer You know, I always say that, do whatever you you know, whatever it is as long as you're proud of it. And he he does seem proud of his foreign policy tweet. I don't think he should, but

17:04Rod Palmer he does seem proud of his foreign policy tweets. So it's it's part you know, I was trying to argue. I tried to argue with him once, making a joke. He blocked me. So he's not, he doesn't wanna hear your opinion anyway if he doesn't agree with him.

17:24Richard Greaser He's got some interest in, foreign policy tweets. He said so the Kyiv post posted today said, NATO does not consider the drone incident in Polish airspace an attack Reuters report citing a source within the alliance. And, Peter Todd responds

17:44Richard Greaser I mean, Satoshi responds as absurd. Someone's house got destroyed by that Russian attack on Poland. European leadership is pathologically weak.

17:54Rod Palmer Well, that that is interesting. So for the context, if you didn't pay attention last night, barely drones went through Poland, Russian drones.

18:06Rod Palmer They were shooting them down. There was fighter jets scrambled by NATO out of Germany. United States has sent an f 30 fives, and it's drone crafts to do a house which, you know, totally shitty for whoever's house that was. Plebs are the cannon fodder in these situations. I don't know, but I I was dreaming about it's a, sigh out because Bitcoin price didn't go down, so it wasn't like the start of World War three all of a sudden. What Peter Todd

18:36Rod Palmer thinks after all is said and done without really having any answers about who actually launched those drones, That one house getting blown up, I don't know, it sounds like he wants NATO to invade Russia He seems like he just he he wants any excuse for NATO to invade Russia, so that's what I noticed.

18:59Richard Greaser He kinda Satoshi kinda makes John Brennan look mild and tame.

19:05Rod Palmer And John Bolton? Sorry.

19:09Richard Greaser Yeah. Sorry. John Brown and was CIA guy. Yeah. John Bolton.

19:12Rod Palmer What what was from really?

19:15Richard Greaser John Bolton. Man, he was foaming at the mouth wanting Trump to invade Venezuela. That might happen. That that was another. There's been so much shit that's happened this week. It's insane.

19:30Rod Palmer That's true. Well, so I mean, obviously, the biggest the biggest story is the assassination of a podcaster, but it's easy to forget, you know, multiple new extremely

19:47Rod Palmer high stakes conflicts and been on the brink of, exploding into the broader, you know, war.

19:55Richard Greaser We might wake up tomorrow and have a bunch of wars going on. There might be a civil war. The, NOS versus core conflict might turn hot. We might have NATO invading Russia. Who knows who Israel's gonna be bombing tomorrow? They just bombed Qatar. That was another big story.

20:17Rod Palmer Right. That was nobody expected that. Yeah. I that's a good point about the prospect of Vora. I go I farken back to listening to Bitcoin podcast forty hours per week at least because

20:33Rod Palmer if you listen to forty hours per week, you're not gonna wake up tomorrow surprised that we're at war, or in some new conflict. Nobody's gonna be caught by surprise when they wake up and listen to forty hours per week. You can see what's coming. You can see the conflict continuing to boil over

20:53Rod Palmer in Ukraine, in or in Europe in general. The European government are losing control of their people. They shouldn't be losing control. They shouldn't have control in the first place, but it they deserve to be losing their it's a mess. The French government, collapsed. Everybody wants to throw Keir Starmer

21:13Rod Palmer into a Volcino in The UK. They assassinated the right wing party, all seven, like, seven members in Germany last week. The Polish are would be happy to go kill some Slavs and some Russians. Nobody wants to give the po the Polish,

21:31Rod Palmer boners right now or ever. You know, I mean, you know what's going on in Gaza. You know what's going on in India, Pakistan. People that are going full tally mode using bit chat to overthrow the government in Nepal and Indonesia. We're bombing the Venezuelans who are big time Bitcoiners, by the way.

21:51Rod Palmer You know, the cartels, I think, were bombing the cartels in Mexico. They're they're assassinating podcasts. You're not gonna wake up tomorrow and find yourself in a brand new war unless you know, some people will. The people who are are still trying to ignore reality, they're gonna wake up tomorrow,

22:11Richard Greaser literally tomorrow, and probably find themselves in a new world. Can can you help with being mad at the boomers?

22:19Rod Palmer No. I I I don't think I think it all boils back or dials back, points back to the boomers. Everybody wants to blame Israel, but they don't wanna blame the boomers.

22:33Richard Greaser I'm getting somebody messaging me some breaking news, but I don't wanna I don't wanna read it. There might be some big news tomorrow. Oh, it's not war related. It's, I don't know. I guess we'll talk about it when it gets public, but, just totally lost it. You can't you can't read messages in the group chats at the same time as podcasting. It's a really bad idea. Maybe this is why women are have the potential to be really good Bitcoin podcasters. They can, multitask.

23:04Richard Greaser Women are known to be able to multitask a lot better than men. Looks like Rod is, maybe it's already circulating news. I don't know. What do you think, Rod?

23:15Rod Palmer Are you talking about the, what's we spread this way? The thing that Jewish lawyers are involved with? Yes. I'm pretty sure that's public. I mean, I know people are talking not that many people are talking about it because it's not that interesting to I think Magoo will be pretty interested in this, Haldamagoo.

23:39Rod Palmer Haldamagoo is like whatever like, I don't know. I don't know if we have to talk about this specifically, but let's just put it this way. Vindication for Havel Magoo Everybody was telling Havel Magoo, he did not know what he was talking about and his FUD was, there was no precedent legally for it, so he was just talking out of his ass turns out

24:03Richard Greaser that annoying little fucker was right I'm on Magoo's page right now It doesn't look like he's,

24:09Rod Palmer I don't know if Magoo knows about it Magoo hasn't been super engaged, in Bitcoin Twitter stuff lately. I Halal Magoo is spending most of his time being surprised that Donald Trump is doing something stupid. I don't know how many times I don't know why

24:28Rod Palmer people think Magoo is so smart, but if he's still surprised by Trump saying stupid shit and doing stupid shit,

24:36Richard Greaser Yeah. He's behind the news. Maybe Plutters sniffed it out. He's kinda behind the, behind the times. Hunter's been spending all his times complaining that sequins is launching their,

24:50Rod Palmer their live streams late. Yeah. I think that's funny. I think that I would dare say that nobody is more disappointed when Swan and Sequans cancel a planned livestream than Plutator is. I think Plutator really goes out of his way to watch this. I think he enjoys him. Have you ever watched the paper Bitcoin livestream?

25:15Richard Greaser I haven't. I haven't yet. I don't.

25:19Rod Palmer No. I have not.

25:22Richard Greaser I'd like to the plotter, if for some strange reason you're watching this or somebody tells you about it, I would love to do a livestream watch party with you for the next sequence livestream.

25:37Rod Palmer Yeah. We would love to make fun of the sequins livestream with predators sometime. I think that would be, like, a really I think what we need right now, not just in this country, but, you know, in this industry, in this community is, moments of healing coming together and unblocking other journalists who you blocked a long time ago

25:60Rod Palmer and just never give him a chance, second chance. I think that would be a really ceiling livestream would be Bugle and Predator. Duncan on sequence. I would love to make that happen.

26:16Richard Greaser That'd be beautiful. He hasn't blocked me yet. I think I'm the only one that's not blocked by him.

26:26Rod Palmer He doesn't respond to me. I mean, we talked about this, and it's looks like we're looking at it right now I just love that, you know, the gravity of what happened today how heinous it was and just the way that everybody was reacting to it

26:43Rod Palmer Everybody had their own reaction to it, right? But, Planet Earth's first reaction was to go to pump.fun and see if, anybody had made a Charlie Turpinene coin to pump a dump on the assassination is. And, so that's what you do with these. An influential person gets assassinated minutes later on pump.fund. Glover, other

27:09Rod Palmer it is disgusting, and shitcoiners are pretty degenerate, but you're the one that went to pump.fun as your first reaction. Find the link in the mirror.

27:22Richard Greaser So I think this my first time in a long time, going to pumped up on one of the website right now. And, they have a little disclaimer to get into the website that says I'm ready to pump. So that means that in order for Platter to v the site, he would have had to hit that yes on that disclaimer that he was ready to pump. Oh my god. Do you Platter here was ready to pump this afternoon? Well, how people were ready to pump this afternoon? Different reasons.

27:54Richard Greaser I mean, I feel like they set up a failed purity test. It's like a trap going to the website and clicking that disclaimer. They get cluttered every time that he's going there to hold, people accountable. Yeah. It looks like, the Charlie Kirk meme coin

28:15Richard Greaser is, like, the third one in the, featured category. It's like it's already down 90%. So when did they they launched this it looks like they launched it right when he got shot, probably. It's right around here. Right?

28:33Rod Palmer Yeah. They probably, you know What was the first time? I wonder which Discord server you gotta be in to be in early on one of these. You know? I got keep on getting notifications.

28:45Richard Greaser It looks like Nick Foster is zapping us. Mister or Nick Foster asked, mister Greaser, how many cigarettes does the new two terabyte iPhone cost? Let's do some math.

28:60Rod Palmer Do you know how much the new iPhone cost? I don't. I'm a I'll look it up right now.

29:05Richard Greaser I keep on seeing people, tweet about it.

29:12Rod Palmer Yeah. There's a bunch of memes, but I didn't see the price. See, I I I figured it'd be pretty must not be too bad because nobody's complaining. No. It's probably looks like a thousand dollars.

29:24Richard Greaser Well, a two terabyte one costs more. Well, if it's a thousand dollars, that's a thousand cigarettes. Sorry. Sorry. No. No. I'm doing math at the end of the day.

29:36Rod Palmer I'm a journalist. I don't think Jeff Booth's theory about deflation will, start thinking in soon. We get, one of these two terabyte iPhones for, you know, 50 cigarettes or something?

29:52Richard Greaser Roughly yeah. I mean, it's roughly a thousand cigarettes. Depends on how you price cigarettes, I guess. You price in them Lucy's, it's 1,000. The problem is the the packs fluctuate and and cost so much. I think I bought this You know, it depends if you if you need new ports or

30:13Rod Palmer Turkish, you know, some kind of Turkish blend. It's it's it's kinda like what we talked about with Otis Bittmeyer. I'm glad that the, the cigarette companies, the tobacco companies do not get as retarded

30:30Rod Palmer as the, coffee guys, like, worrying about exploiting each other in the in the supply chain. Just give me the cigarettes, bro.

30:38Richard Greaser Well, the nice thing about Bitcoin going down recently is it makes calculating the price of cigarettes a little bit more easy. There is this we're on we were right at the 100,000 range.

30:52Rod Palmer It was so easy to price cigarettes. Show back to Twitter, see what people are talking about. Plotter. Just at that four u tab. Let's see what Twitter wants us to think about tonight in amidst all of this, you know, somebody said Twitter's got the zoomies today. That sounds about right.

31:11Richard Greaser Yeah. Got Charlie Spears. You even listened to Charlie's podcast?

31:21Rod Palmer Yeah. I like them. I think, yeah.

31:26Richard Greaser I was listening to the one that he did with Colin Harper. I'm not sure what it was called, but I thought it was pretty good. But he says, Bitcoin is for enemies, not for JPEGs. It's true. That definitely wasn't a tweet for the, algorithm. That can mean a lot of things. Samsung's tweeting about how Ethereum sucks. What's his play here? He he tweets about Tether, and then he talks about how Ethereum sucks, but Ethereum is how everybody uses Tether.

31:56Richard Greaser Is he a fan of Tron?

31:58Rod Palmer Well, he probably wishes they'd use Tether on liquid.

32:03Richard Greaser I mean, what what's what's liquid look like right now? I don't know. Look.

32:13Rod Palmer Liquid really has an option on Liquid really hasn't been on the top of my mind today. I don't think Blinkwood has been on a lot of people's minds today or most days.

32:25Richard Greaser Yeah. I think it's most days people aren't thinking about liquid. Every once in a while, I'll hear about it. Jimmy Song was saying that we don't need covenants because, you can do it on liquid.

32:36Rod Palmer So I think there's probably about as much real demand for covenants as there is liquid, so might as well combine them.

32:43Richard Greaser That makes sense. Yeah. Maybe Jimmy's right about that, but Jimmy's thinking about liquid. So, like, my whole feed is just Ben Jossman. I guess Twitter doesn't

32:55Rod Palmer If you watch Ben Jossman, you follow him. He's got, like, a professional camera crew that follows him around and takes they're all open mouth thumbnails, but they're kinda like, you know, Mumford and Sons hip you know, hipster

33:11Richard Greaser modeling pictures. I was just gonna say, I love Ben Josslyn so much.

33:17Rod Palmer Alright. What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? I don't know if Lobka knows how to tweet without doing the, read more, going over the characters. He's a he's a he he's a self admitted word sell. He wants AI to you, think. Maybe that is what AI condensed his stream of kite. Anyways, he goes, this feels like a historic moment,

33:43Rod Palmer both a tonal breakdown and future test of values that, built this country. The only way through this period will be one of honest reckoning with the forces which have shaped the last two decades. If we cannot speak clearly and openly about how we got here, the only remaining options are likely worse than you would want. America is and has always been an ideological country. The country was founded on ideals,

34:11Rod Palmer and the forces which have taken us to this point have been a widespread adoption of mainly contradictory ideals. These two sets of ideology are unlikely or excuse me, are likely fundamentally incompatible with each other. And this must be, truly and legibly hashed out in the public arena. While there's certainly much more going on here than ideas,

34:35Rod Palmer none of this is separate from ideas. The main, to maintain an intact nation that we must put the ideas of the last few decades on trial, and we must decide. I agree. I think that a lot of people,

34:53Rod Palmer whether they articulate it that way or not, did agree with that before today. The problem with today is that the dude who literally hit his podcast, his entire persona, his whole mission, was doing this, like getting people

35:10Rod Palmer in a debate, a discourse about their ideology. You know, he likes to bully and pick on, retarded Levittards at college. He did a really good job of it. He was be you know, Ben Shapiro kinda started it, and Charlie wrecked or, Charlie Kirk mastered it. And they tilled him for it. That if you try to do what Steven's doing, you're putting your life on the line and that is

35:37Rod Palmer one of the cruxes, bro, we have to hash this out and people who are willing to be honest and tell the truth or at least tell the truth based on their ideals and their perspectives are getting their, you know, necks exploded. It's it's a spec this is like reality TV connect. This is the result of that. And that's the problem, and Bitcoin podcasters.

36:03Rod Palmer We pride ourselves on being outspoken, having challenging, controversial ideas. Some of that's a larp, not all of it.

36:14Rod Palmer But this is why I mean, this is why you're wearing a a bulletproof vest. Right? Like, sharing your ideas on your Bitcoin podcast could cost you your life now.

36:25Richard Greaser I think we need to consult the Bitcoin veterans to to see what type of bulletproof vest is is proper to protect you while you're podcasting, while you're, debating these ideas in the, in the public square. You know, this is kind of like kind of like a naive view, I think, by Steven.

36:47Richard Greaser And, it's a view a lot of people like to say. Like, you know, the ideas need to be discussed in the public square. There needs to be a marketplace for ideas. Like, the you know, the problem is is that a good portion of society is dumb. They don't know how to discern accurate information, and that most of the ideas being hashed out in the public square are dumb.

37:12Richard Greaser You can just look at the the share of, market share of people who send the Bitcoin podcast is versus non Bitcoin podcast. But, like, I agree. People should be able to speak. And, it is, pretty wild. Like, I think

37:30Richard Greaser if if you're having to resort to physical violence over ideas being spread in order to protect your view. I mean, I guess it's way it's way too we're a lot of us are making conclusions on the motivation of the of the killer. I think the assumption is because it was a a podcaster

37:54Richard Greaser that got killed. It was motivated by trying to control speech. But, I think one of the unfortunate realities of the foreturning yeah. I don't wanna participate in any of it, but one of the unfortunate realities of the foreturning is violent. Like, it's just as, like, one of those inevitabilities.

38:15Richard Greaser And, we're just watching it play out.

38:21Rod Palmer Yeah. You this is one of those situations. Say you don't wanna participate in any of it. I don't either. And that's again what people have been kinda talking about in so many ways to say the same thing is that they we want

38:36Rod Palmer a society that puts politics and free discussion over violence. We want that. We want well, trans people wanna be the other gender and they want you to affirm them, you know, but that's just not the truth.

38:53Rod Palmer You know, people want utopia. They want Bitcoin to work the way that, they believe it should work. They don't want anybody else to have any impact or influence over it. And any control by somebody else is, you know, attack on Bitcoin. It it's evil. It's worth death threats. You're committing a death threat against Bitcoin, whatever that means. But not every, you know, not everything blows down to something that retarded.

39:20Rod Palmer The point is that I don't know. I kinda lost my train of thought there, but it's it's Yeah. I mean,

39:31Richard Greaser I I think a lot of people like, it's it's okay to get wrapped up in an idea as a utopia vision for it and getting all excited about it. Oh, yeah.

39:43Rod Palmer But Yeah. Yeah. My point is, well, we want this violence, and we want what it seems like we're going towards. But too bad, we're already there. Yeah. That's the point. Right? You're not gonna wake up tomorrow's World War three, tomorrow's Civil War. We're already there. Somebody had a point the other day or earlier the day I read and it said, anything that happens next because of this was gonna happen anyway. And I to, like, to an extent, maybe that's

40:11Rod Palmer hyperbole, but it's not like this has been set in motion. And if you you still don't notice that, you still don't recognize that. This is why we're talking about you need to listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast per week because this none of this shit should be surprising to you and you should be anticipating more unexpected crazy scary stuff like this.

40:36Rod Palmer It's not just gonna get better. Yeah.

40:39Richard Greaser I think it's okay to get excited about things because you have a you get bought into the utopian vision of it. But at a certain point, you're gonna become an adult and just, like, understand that whatever your utopian idea was done, and it wasn't realistic. You can have a utopia and, like,

41:01Richard Greaser create these utopia and ideas, I think, on a micro level. But the macro level of trying to control everybody else, like, just because you got all excited about Bitcoin and you understand it and you listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast a week, doesn't mean that, because you were able to get it that everybody else in the world is magically gonna get it. But yeah. I mean, it's kind of those I'm still waiting for this moment when, Bitcoin defunds the state and, and stops war. It's interesting. Ever since the strategic reserve,

41:37Richard Greaser happened, it seems like the war's just been ramping up. Kind of an interesting phenomenon. What What do you think? Is this part of the game theory?

41:49Rod Palmer Can you repeat that again? I mean, I think I I crack what you're saying, but war has been ramping up as it like, so, like, Bitcoin is making is racing us towards war or the the strategic reserve itself?

42:06Richard Greaser No. No. We we just all these Bitcoin podcasters have been talking about how Bitcoin ends war. We got the strategic war reserve. It seems like war is just ramping up. What's going on here? Was the utopian vision a a lie or, is it too early to say that? Or, Whenever

42:29Rod Palmer I am my approach to this question is always the answer is lower your time preference. I don't know. I don't know if Bitcoin, the strategic Bitcoin reserve is the magic bullet that it pulls The United States out of war with, you know, in The Middle East. You know, just all the Israel stuff, the war the wars that we're trying to help them manage. I don't know if

42:53Rod Palmer Bitcoin is the magic the strategic Bitcoin reserve is the magic bullet to get us to stop assassinating, you know, people in the global South and running coup against their governments and throwing them out of helicopters. I don't know, but it might be.

43:12Rod Palmer And we'll find out eventually because you just got all your time preference. I think it's too early to be positive, I think, in in celebrate, but it's it's obviously it's also too early to give up. But Justin Betchler, he he's been ready to give up on the strategic Bitcoin reserve before Trump even took office. He thought he he's just he's so against it, but I just we have to give it time. Did you watch Trump's,

43:36Richard Greaser Oval Office speech yet?

43:39Rod Palmer I did. Yeah.

43:41Richard Greaser I haven't seen it yet. Should we play that real quick? I think he will he can go.

43:46Rod Palmer Well, yeah. Maybe play some of it. It's a little bit long. He was respected by youth. You know?

43:51Richard Greaser He was respect he made boomer conservative politics calls for the broccoli haircuts.

43:59Rod Palmer Broccoli haircuts. First thing they did was make a meme coin when he passed. He was so this is another thing that I think is important. Charlie Kirk was incredibly popular with people under with dudes 30. I don't mean I don't mean this to be, like, alarming,

44:20Rod Palmer but it's it's worth knowing. The death of the murder of Charlie Kirkpatrick has inspired and angered a lot of military aged males in The United States who are already getting pretty fucking pissed off and, like, fed up with things.

44:36Rod Palmer Maybe they beat the shit out of broccoli, haircut, big balls. Remember big balls? You got beat up trying to help somebody, being assaulted by criminal in Washington, DC. That was part of, like, why they'd rock with national guard. It's it's a very hot, conflict with with these type of people, and I but it makes me think that the only ending here is going to be, like, it's gonna they're gonna tear we're gonna tear down George Floyd statues,

45:07Rod Palmer to replace them with Charlie Kirk statues. Not just metaphorically, I think literally, that's what I think that's part of how this ends. It's not a joke. I think they're gonna put out they're gonna replace the the George Floyd statues, the Charlie Kirk statues. I was kinda hoping it'd be the hot Ukraine as well. Yeah. Well, we got enough Ukraine memorials and flags out there right now. God knows. I feel so I really you know?

45:35Richard Greaser Hot blonde Ukrainian girls are different than a Ukrainian flag. That's for sure.

45:41Rod Palmer Yeah. That's that's a good point.

45:44Richard Greaser One of the things I just wanna say real quick, so I was I went into the comments of the post. So, I I started seeing this rhetoric being shared around on on Twitter, on Telegram. So American a AF says, we need this. So, apparently, in 2013, Trump tweeted something about needing a public execution. So it should be public execution for all to see you will end this bullshit fast.

46:12Richard Greaser The the one issue I have with that I'm not really gonna comment on the merit of public education or, sorry, executions. But, the one issue I take with the timing of the tweet is they still haven't found the guy yet. And it sounds like the first guy that they arrested that everybody was able to cruise willing to crucify,

46:37Richard Greaser wasn't involved in the shooting at all. And I think this is kinda like the this is like one of those dangerous spots you get into with the with the vigilante justice when people are out re ready for blood, ready to lynch people. I don't really like that very much. And part of the reason, like, I I think it's just like, people need to slow down, and they need to ask, what if you were the innocent person in this situation?

47:03Richard Greaser What would you how would you want people to treat you? Would you want them to get angry at you and just, like, hanging from a tree by your neck with a rope? Or do you want them to slow down and think and make sure that they got the right guy? I don't know where we're getting these stream chats from, but Charlie Spears, just calm. Yeah. Charlie said, good thing we got our vest on.

47:26Richard Greaser Charlie, you gotta get a vest too, man. After, the, you know, kind of the timing of Osanoa Gold tweeting about, how the spammers are creating death threats on Bitcoin and then Charlie Kirk getting shot. I think it's a good time for, Bitcoin podcasters to follow Tatum's,

47:51Richard Greaser example. Charlie says he's watching on YouTube. That's interesting. I didn't know anybody knew that we had a YouTube channel. Yeah, Rod. I don't know if we should ramble a whole lot more, but yeah. It what a weird day, folks. It's a sad day. It's a real day. It's good for some

48:12Rod Palmer it's it feels like a big day because I think it is. I I don't I don't know what happens next year, how fast it happens, but Bitcoin doesn't care. Did you agree?

48:27Richard Greaser We'll see. Yeah. I mean, Bitcoin's down a little bit or up a little bit today. Didn't really move. Alright. We were chatting in the group chat the other night. You you had a great a great comment,

48:44Richard Greaser which was that, you knew that the Polish situation wasn't a big deal because the Bitcoin price didn't crash. Right. They're trying to make they're trying to make it seem

48:56Rod Palmer like NATO and Russia were facing off. Like, the the hot war was kicking off. Like, this was as usual where nobody saw it coming. The the implications, this and that. They coming it was, like, not even down a half a percent. You know, when Israel and and Iran have their little fake, SIOP missile launch wars back and forth like, the afternoon before that happens, like, bickling dumps 7%, 10%,

49:25Rod Palmer they didn't do that in Poland, so I don't know. I just wasn't buying the hype, I guess.

49:32Richard Greaser Maybe that's why Satoshi wants, NATO to attack Russia so that he could buy Bitcoin buy the Bitcoin dip. Maybe he's a little bit long fiat right now.

49:44Rod Palmer That makes that makes more sense.

49:48Richard Greaser What? Alright. One last tweet. What the hell is this? Alex Leishman says no more debating.

49:55Rod Palmer I think, you know, Charlie Kirk, his thing was debating, and, he's not gonna do it anymore. Maybe he's I don't know.

50:05Richard Greaser You got all these goofballs. He he's probably talking about Charlie Kirk, but you got all these goofballs,

50:11Rod Palmer talking about Corvus. Yeah. Yeah. I I think it's, you know, I think it's, I think she's saying that we have debated enough about whether we should shoot and kill podcasters, and we're done debating. We don't think that it is okay.

50:29Richard Greaser I hope so. I don't I don't think that's the context of what he's saying, but I don't know. Well, anyways, let us know if you like this stream. We'll, we'll probably do stuff like this in the future. It's been a long day. It's been a long news cycle. Started out early.

50:52Richard Greaser You were tweeting about the Vatican, their stance on nodes. Thought that was pretty interesting. Then we had a podcaster get shot, and then there's wars going on.

51:04Rod Palmer Looks like looks like Boomer tagged us. Frankie McDonald posted a video. You know, Frankie McDonald, the big guy. Frankie posted a it says, I wasn't anywhere near the state of Utah at all. Period. So Frankie McDonald was

51:24Rod Palmer distancing. He wanna make sure people knew that he was not responsible. Thank you, Frankie.

51:33Richard Greaser I think that counts as a denouncement of violence. I don't know. Is that enough to vindicate Frankie? Should he still be on the suspect list? I don't think Frankie or her fly. Every time every time something happens, Frankie makes sure to let people know that he's innocent. If you do that enough, you might be guilty. With as little as, you know, the authorities seem to know on, the actual shooter, if they I guess, we haven't been checking the news since we've been streaming, but it doesn't sound like they apprehended the guy yet. I guess you gotta keep all Let's be

52:07Rod Palmer and let's face it. No way no way the plugs on Twitter are gonna buy the fad. It is they're not gonna believe whoever they catch is the person behind it. We probably will never know or feel a 100% sure that they called the right guy. Everything's a conspiracy these days. That's all it's this

52:28Richard Greaser this is just the next one. Well, before we wrap this up, you got any any closing thoughts? Do you wanna talk about a kid's ass tweet? Always. She's always she's got some profound stuff she's been tweeting recently. I haven't read this yet, but I just assume it's profound. Just a hard hitter right here. Sometimes I still can't believe they let regular people like me buy Bitcoin.

52:58Rod Palmer Well, that's the view you Bitcoin to to sets. Whether you're a regular person, whether you're a libtard,

53:10Rod Palmer whether you're a Nazi, whether you're the CIA. It's not about them letting you. It's a permissionless technology in if kids at could figure out

53:23Rod Palmer Bitcoin and how to get some, anybody can. I think it's a good message.

53:30Richard Greaser She has the most profound tweets. She's truly a philosopher in her own right. Let's look at I think this is a good way to close it. Let's go through her other profound tweets she's got. We didn't she retweeted people about Jesus. Let's look for some originals. Here we go.

53:48Richard Greaser Sometimes I stop tweeting about Bitcoin to scroll Bitcoin memes instead. Relatable. So profound. You're gonna let her know. Profile. Let's see what what's her next banger? She retweeting my call for that's interesting. So

54:08Rod Palmer oh, she already What's what is, what's more sus? Selling alcohol for Bitcoin or retweeting Mike Alfred?

54:20Richard Greaser Well, she retweeted Mike Alfred and Nick Carter. And he got platter on the case. What's going on over here? Fun fact, In 2030, people will wish they bought just point o one Bitcoin in 2025. 833 likes.

54:40Rod Palmer I think people are gonna wish they bought,

54:44Richard Greaser you know,

54:46Rod Palmer as much Bitcoin as they could more than 0.01. But, yeah, I mean, I I always wish I bought some stats in the past.

54:55Richard Greaser That's such a fun fact.

54:57Rod Palmer It is fun. Just getting 0.01 Bitcoin will be enough to put your mom in a retirement home in 2030? Good question. Is is would that be enough to to afford,

55:09Richard Greaser getting all the thetans out of me in the Church of Scientology by 2030? Maybe. She's retweeting Gary Card out. It's quite a quite a,

55:23Rod Palmer sure, tweeted Dieter. Well, folks, remember to think for yourself. It's the only really easy outsource you're thinking. Next few days, next few weeks, next few years, Not everybody has to run it out and not everybody has to, think for themselves in every situation but if you are going to outsource your thinking,

55:50Rod Palmer Be very, very be very, very careful.

55:56Richard Greaser Yeah. Bitcoin veterans, let us know, which, type of bulletproof vest that you think Bitcoin podcasters should wear. Should it be just basic Kevlar? Should it be a level three place? Should it be level four place? I guess I haven't I haven't looked at both her best for a while, but, I need to get a press patch for mine.

56:20Richard Greaser Like, I'll I'll get that one of those I think the last thing

56:24Rod Palmer you want right now is press pass. I think you wanna bullet through vest, and, I think you wanted to cover anything that tells people that you're the press. So I feel like that's probably gonna make you a bigger target.

56:39Richard Greaser So should should I get a protester patch then?

56:43Rod Palmer Podcaster. About a yeah. I don't know. That might not be good either.

56:50Richard Greaser Podcasters are the targets today, though. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I need a patch, though. Alright, folks. Thank you for, tuning into this impromptu stream, and we'll, catch you sometime soon.