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We're recording</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3" data-t="3">tonight.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-5">0:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-5" data-t="5">We're coming back. It's been a little bit a little bit since we've done an episode of Behind the Podcast, but we have a very special guest tonight.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-14" data-t="14">It's a very special</span> <span class="cue" id="t-16" data-t="16">episode. Coming to us</span> <span class="cue" id="t-19" data-t="19">all the way from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-21" data-t="21">the land of Ron DeSantis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-23" data-t="23">is June Seth. And if you don't know who June Seth is, then you have obviously not been listening</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-30">0:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-30" data-t="30">to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast. We</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-33">0:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-33" data-t="33">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-35" data-t="35">I would say if for those</span> <span class="cue" id="t-37" data-t="37">coming in new, it's but Dickerson</span> <span class="cue" id="t-40" data-t="40">on Twitter and e. This is the first Dick Carson.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-43" data-t="43">Dick Carson. This is the first Maxi Madness final four member that we've got on the podcast. So this is a this is a big deal. It's final four.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-52">0:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-52" data-t="52">Now, yeah, man. Congrats on the performance. Thanks. I, I trained hard for it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-58" data-t="58">Really, really.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-60" data-t="60">I never and I didn't see it coming. I I think it was Sailor who upset me.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-64" data-t="64">Yeah. Yeah. Sailor Sailor took it. I mean, he's a real athlete. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-70" data-t="70">I felt I felt a little bit like, like, a little bit of a bitch,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-74" data-t="74">losing to Michael Sailor. I thought that, like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-78">1:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-78" data-t="78">I just I don't know. To me,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-81" data-t="81">I thought that I was the bigger Bitcoin Maxi. He's kind of like he's a little bit of a twink. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I was just gonna say it. I would say,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-90">1:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-90" data-t="90">did it hurt the ego</span> <span class="cue" id="t-92" data-t="92">to lose Maxi Madness to a gay fed?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-96">1:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-96" data-t="96">Yeah. It did. I didn't I didn't think Twitter would let that happen. It hurt. It really did. And like I said, I mean, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-103" data-t="103">in in that relationship,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-105" data-t="105">I would I would be the top. There's no question. Right? Like, it just really,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-110" data-t="110">it did</span> <span class="cue" id="t-112" data-t="112">it did make me feel inadequate,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-115" data-t="115">small.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-116">1:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-116" data-t="116">But I do think I I do think that the right person won Maxi Madness. I think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-120" data-t="120">I think we all know that Teddy Bitcoins</span> <span class="cue" id="t-124" data-t="124">is maybe the greatest</span> <span class="cue" id="t-125" data-t="125">Maxi of all time.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-128">2:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-128" data-t="128">I agree. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-130" data-t="130">Is</span> <span class="cue" data-t="130">do you think Teddy Bitcoins is gonna be invited to speak at,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-135">2:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-135" data-t="135">the Bitcoin in DC I don't know. Conference? I don't know how they avoid it given his performance.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-142">2:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-142" data-t="142">I mean, more votes. I I don't think they they don't</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-145">2:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-145" data-t="145">They what?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-146">2:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-146" data-t="146">I said, I don't think they're gonna want want to invite him, but I think you're gonna have politicians. You're gonna have people like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-152" data-t="152">Cynthia Lamas who are gonna ask them, like, is Teddy Bitcoins gonna be there? And they're gonna have to invite Teddy Bitcoins to get anybody to show up to their event.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-160">2:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-160" data-t="160">They're gonna have to, I think. Everyone wants to meet Teddy. I know Teddy. Teddy's a Teddy's a good guy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-167" data-t="167">And I just I just am very,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-170" data-t="170">I'm proud of the fact that he put up such a good showing. I I really think the community came together,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-176" data-t="176">voted ethically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-177" data-t="177">and, with IDs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-179" data-t="179">and ensured that you guys just you guys really ran a clean,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-182">3:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-182" data-t="182">compliant contest, I gotta say. I really, I I admire your efforts, theirs, and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-188" data-t="188">can't wait till next year.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-191">3:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-191" data-t="191">It was truly one of the safest and secure most secure elections in human history. I think that I've seen that evidence.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-199" data-t="199">It was a proud moment for democracy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-203">3:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-203" data-t="203">Yeah. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-206" data-t="206">I I love, I love Maxi Madness every year. I usually don't tune in until the end, but I guess because I I I don't know if you guys accidentally included me on the bracket this year or, or how that ended up happening. I just getting on the bracket made me pay a little bit more attention. I was like, oh,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-222" data-t="222">oh, look at that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-223" data-t="223">Apparently, I'm playing.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-225">3:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-225" data-t="225">No. You definitely belong on it. I mean, you you were a pioneer in the Bitcoin podcasting ecosystem.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-231" data-t="231">You were</span> <span class="cue" id="t-232" data-t="232">one of the first people to give people a reason to live. Listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast a week. You</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-239">3:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-239" data-t="239">could start too is I think we,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-242" data-t="242">I think I think our show is usually between three and six, sometimes seven hours.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-247" data-t="247">Mhmm. So, you know, it was a good it was a good chunk of that forty hour,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-252" data-t="252">the forty hour allocation.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-255">4:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-255" data-t="255">Yeah. I wanna I wanna talk about this. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-259" data-t="259">you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-260" data-t="260">were interested you you podcasted about Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-264" data-t="264">pre Dennis Porter. What was the Bitcoin ecosystem like before Dennis Porter?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-270">4:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-270" data-t="270">It was it was mostly drug dealers and hookers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-273" data-t="273">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-274" data-t="274">and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-275">4:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-275" data-t="275">and orgies. Once that's a coincidence because before</span> <span class="cue" id="t-279" data-t="279">Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-280" data-t="280">and Dennis Porter's life,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-282" data-t="282">I've heard that he was like a promoter at a a strip club in Portland.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-288">4:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-288" data-t="288">Well, that would make sense. That's what you have to get exposure,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-291" data-t="291">to Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-292" data-t="292">through exposure to Bitcoin users.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-295" data-t="295">Like and it sounds like he was probably,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-299" data-t="299">right underneath a number of Bitcoin users.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-302">5:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-302" data-t="302">Yeah. That's true. His Dennis Porter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-305" data-t="305">he is a self proclaimed,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-307" data-t="307">progressive,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-309" data-t="309">liberal leaning Bitcoiner, and he saw,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-312" data-t="312">women, you know, female sex workers, and he thought</span> <span class="cue" id="t-315" data-t="315">they are being exploited.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-316">5:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-316" data-t="316">Bitcoin fixes this. Right. So he he kinda became like</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-320">5:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-320" data-t="320">it's almost like he was like, he managed their their Bitcoin. It was like he was their orange pill pimp. Well, this was like a few years ago. I remember I got a call from Bloomberg after one of the Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-330" data-t="330">Bitcoin conferences, and they asked me if I thought it was appropriate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-334" data-t="334">that I think it was a dash,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-335" data-t="335">or number it was just some other party.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-338" data-t="338">Professional,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-340" data-t="340">professional blockchain party</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-342">5:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-342" data-t="342">happened at, what is ostensibly a bit a a strip club in in in Fort Lauderdale.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-348" data-t="348">And I said, well, what like, why would that be a problem? They said, well, the the women of Bitcoin had complained to Forbes about this. And I was like, I, like, I was confused. I said the women of you mean the strippers or, like, who are you talking about? And they were like, the lady was appalled.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-364" data-t="364">And I I just I,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-366" data-t="366">to this day, can't figure out why.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-369">6:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-369" data-t="369">Well, let's talk about the orgies. Are orgies a part of being, like, a good Bitcoiner?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-375">6:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-375" data-t="375">Are they part of being a good Bitcoin?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-378" data-t="378">No. They're just they're they're sort of a tangential thing. We didn't know about the orgies. We just kinda followed every lead. So we would have someone come on our show who's a Bitcoiner. In this case, we had</span> <span class="cue" id="t-389" data-t="389">a a gay,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-390" data-t="390">a gay a gay hooker,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-392" data-t="392">come on our show.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-394" data-t="394">And not not in the way that you might think he would have come on our show. He came on to be interviewed.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-400">6:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-400" data-t="400">So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-401" data-t="401">he came on our show, and he invited us to an orgy he was going to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-406" data-t="406">the following night. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-409" data-t="409">I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-411" data-t="411">how can you say no? It's like being invited to a one year old's birthday party. Mhmm. You know what I mean?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-416" data-t="416">So we, we went and we paid $50 at the door at a Sheraton,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-421">7:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-421" data-t="421">and we went in and just observed,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-424" data-t="424">nothing less than what I would call bucak.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-429" data-t="429">But, like, they were, like, 65 year olds doing bucak.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-433">7:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-433" data-t="433">And what what did you take away from the experience?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-436">7:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-436" data-t="436">Syphilis,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-438" data-t="438">gonorrhea,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-439" data-t="439">AIDS, and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-441" data-t="441">HPV.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-444">7:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-444" data-t="444">Did you have any trouble finding non KYC HIV medication before Noster?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-451">7:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-451" data-t="451">No. Because we had Silk Road.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-454">7:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-454" data-t="454">Oh, okay. Yeah. So you still had Silk Road?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-457">7:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-457" data-t="457">We had Silk Road back then until Ross was caught.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-461" data-t="461">Sad day.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-462">7:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-462" data-t="462">Did you take any drugs, any psychedelics or drink or did you just do this? Did you use raw dog, a senior citizen orgy?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-469">7:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-469" data-t="469">No. We just you know, you know, what's really funny is that we walked into this thing, and we set up in another hotel room and would come back, and we were giving updates to the listeners as to what we were seeing. And we we walked in there with recording devices and just started, like, interviewing people who were</span> <span class="cue" id="t-483" data-t="483">like, are you, like, enjoying this?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-487" data-t="487">I do this every week. And they were just, like, very happy to be interviewed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-493" data-t="493">Like, they were my favorite member. There was this young Brazilian guy. They're like, all the women. They were, like, 65 year old, like, 300 pound cows.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-501" data-t="501">And, you know, there's this guy there. He's like this Italian guy. He's got this, you know, this golden chain around his neck, and he's got his white hair out. And he's like, he's not fat, but he's not thin. You know what I mean? He's like kinda got that, like, Italian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-513" data-t="513">hard gut. You know what I mean? And he's just raw dog and these chicks. You know? These 65 year old fat women. And then there's this, like, 28 year old, 26 year old,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-522">8:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-522" data-t="522">like, six pack guy in the corner,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-525" data-t="525">totally naked,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-526" data-t="526">ripping off condoms, putting new ones on, popping, like, Viagoras, and just going after him. And he's, like, pointing out to me. He's, like, I've tried that one, and I've tried that one, and I've tried that one, and I've tried that one. That one over there is the only one I couldn't I haven't tried yet. So I'm gonna go over there and do that one. And then, there's another guy there who was this kind of awkward guy. It was pretty clear to me that, like, this guy can't get laid outside of an orgy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-548" data-t="548">He was kind of a a weird he was he wasn't, you know, like, a a hideously ugly guy, just kind of a normal looking guy. And he would walk up to the women,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-556" data-t="556">with their, you know, vaginas hanging out and kind of poke at them and and hope that they would allow him in an orgy to just, like, bang the fuck out of them. And every time he would do that, the women would slap him away.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-570">9:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-570" data-t="570">I was like, this guy can't even get laid at an orgy. It felt really bad.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-575">9:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-575" data-t="575">What</span> <span class="cue" id="t-576" data-t="576">what if you were to participate in orgy like that or any type of orgy? What,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-581" data-t="581">which character do you what what what would you be doing? Would you be like, what the fuck is going on? Or would you just be like, this is I'm the king of this orgy. I think I admire</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-590">9:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-590" data-t="590">the Brazil the Brazilian six pack guy. You know? He just didn't care,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-595" data-t="595">about what pussy he was getting. Right? He was just going person to person to person, 65 year old, 32 year old, 55 year old, just whatever there was to sample. He was he was doing the whole buffet. And he, you know, he also I don't think could've there's no way he was enjoying it because he was going to completion. You know? So he was just popping a pill and then doing the next one. So, like, I I I admired the effort. I think his goal must have been to, like, fuck as many chicks as possible.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-624" data-t="624">And, and I was just I was just kind of I was I was observing. It was the most interesting person of the night. There are there's a lot of people, a lot of our people who like the bugle</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-635">10:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-635" data-t="635">and people we've met from doing this who it's like they're like that with Bitcoin podcasts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-639" data-t="639">They just go in and they go, they'll scroll through found, it's like, they'll listen to this one, this one, this one, this one, and they'll just listen to all of them. It doesn't matter what they are. And it's just like, I think they're just, they're just, they're, this guy's at the orgy for the love of the game. And other people are just like they're they're they're tourists or whatever, and it's like it's the same in Bitcoin. It's like you got some people who were there to consume all the podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-664" data-t="664">and some people who were just there to fucking</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-667">11:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-667" data-t="667">make Look. We're we're we're make a profit. Anywhere we go, we go for the porn of it. You know what I mean? Yeah. And and here in Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-674" data-t="674">ambition. Exactly. Like, it's, you know, the, I think I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-678" data-t="678">before Bitcoin, men were more visual. But after Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-682" data-t="682">men get off by hearing the voice of other men say sweet nothings into their ears about this Mhmm. Beautiful</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-690">11:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-690" data-t="690">orange currency. Right. Or black people.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-694">11:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-694" data-t="694">This is one of the powerful things that Dennis Porter is off of the world is because men no longer need Viagra. I just That's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-702" data-t="702">what Dennis Porter is off of the world.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-704">11:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-704" data-t="704">So that was another question that fits right in is how did these guys at orgies get these just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-710" data-t="710">unrelenting boners before Dennis Porter? I'm telling Viagra.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-714">11:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-714" data-t="714">Like, medicine solves</span> <span class="cue" id="t-716" data-t="716">not having Dennis Porter around.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-721">12:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-721" data-t="721">Bitcoin does a lot of things. Right? It it separates church and state</span> <span class="cue" id="t-725" data-t="725">or sorry, not church and state, money money and state is one of the big ones that people are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-732" data-t="732">on about, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-733" data-t="733">it also separates boners from pharmaceuticals.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-736" data-t="736">Right. And that that's incredible.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-738">12:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-738" data-t="738">Do you do what I do? Do you carry around in your wallet a picture of dentists?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-744">12:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-744" data-t="744">I I don't, but should I? Is it a gift? Yeah. It's I mean, it's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-748">12:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-748" data-t="748">it's I think it's effective.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-751">12:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-751" data-t="751">Yeah. What if what if you're, like, you're broken down on the side of the road and your wife wants to bang one out before you walk to get some gas and you don't get a boner, you pull out your picture of Dennis. But you remember that Bitcoin has is almost there's always a very one. I'll tell you this. I never thought that I would need it, but then there have been a couple of times where I'm just like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-770">12:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-770" data-t="770">what would I have done without this?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-772" data-t="772">You know what I mean? It's not often that there's an object in your wallet like that, but this is one of those.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-778" data-t="778">Mhmm. And it should be in full color.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-781">13:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-781" data-t="781">Well, I think, you know, like a lot of our listeners, they're they're orange shells. Are are you familiar with this term, the orange shell? No.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-790">13:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-790" data-t="790">They can't orange pill anybody. It's like, you can't get laid at a fucking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-795" data-t="795">an orgy. It's like this guy couldn't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-797" data-t="797">orange pill somebody, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-800" data-t="800">in a room full of fucking like, Scientologist</span> <span class="cue" id="t-803" data-t="803">recoveries,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-804">13:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-804" data-t="804">people. They're orange. They're orange cells. Okay. Yeah. Like, they they like, think of somebody. They they go on a Tinder date. Right? Right. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-813" data-t="813">they're really horny. They wanna get laid,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-816" data-t="816">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-818" data-t="818">the girl is either</span> <span class="cue" id="t-819" data-t="819">a no coiner or a shit coiner,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-822" data-t="822">and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-823">13:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-823" data-t="823">their</span> <span class="cue" id="t-824" data-t="824">their primal desire to get laid is overpowered</span> <span class="cue" id="t-828" data-t="828">by their primal desire to teach them about Bitcoin. And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-832">13:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-832" data-t="832">Oh, who's the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-834" data-t="834">who's the female Bitcoiner with the long hair? There's a couple of them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-841" data-t="841">She identifies as a man. She's tall.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-847">14:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-847" data-t="847">Jeremy Leke Rubin? No. Thin,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-850">14:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-850" data-t="850">muscular, good looking.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-854">14:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-854" data-t="854">Or tall. And you don't you dare. Don't you dare.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-858" data-t="858">What's his name? I think I know where you're going with this. I'm I'm offended. What's his name?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-862">14:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-862" data-t="862">Her name?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-863">14:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-863" data-t="863">No.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-864">14:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-864" data-t="864">Oh, Joe Nakamoto. No. Not Joe Nakamoto.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-869">14:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-869" data-t="869">She's a woman. Don't misgender her.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-874" data-t="874">She's the queen.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-876">14:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-876" data-t="876">No.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-880" data-t="880">No. No. No. Not her.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-883">14:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-883" data-t="883">Sam.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-884" data-t="884">Gloria Zhao.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-886">14:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-886" data-t="886">Richard, you're you're evil.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-888">14:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-888" data-t="888">Sam, Richard.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-891" data-t="891">I can't believe you thought that's the</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-894">14:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-894" data-t="894">yeah. That's where I set. Yeah. No. Richard's wrong. Richard, you you gotta</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-898">14:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-898" data-t="898">you're disgusting. You're disgusting. Right? No one was even thinking about that. All that matters all that matters is that her macro is more interesting than her gender, so let's not talk about it. You said Lauren, what are you talking about?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-910">15:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-910" data-t="910">No. Not Corey Clipston.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-912" data-t="912">It's a long hair. The the long hair. The long haired one. The one that the the the one haired girl.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-919">15:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-919" data-t="919">I have to get I have to get a lip. Oh my god.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-925">15:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-925" data-t="925">Long haired girl. We need to solve this mystery.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-928">15:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-928" data-t="928">Tall Good looking tall.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-932">15:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-932" data-t="932">It's not Jeremy Rubin? No. Not Jeremy Rubin. He's not tall? You</span> <span class="cue" id="t-938" data-t="938">oh.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-939" data-t="939">This is a stock.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-942">15:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-942" data-t="942">Good looking.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-947" data-t="947">I don't know.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-949" data-t="949">I'm totally good looking. I I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-952" data-t="952">I don't I don't find her very pretty.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-954" data-t="954">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-955" data-t="955">anyhow,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-958">15:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-958" data-t="958">moving on.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-961" data-t="961">Is is is Richard still looking her up?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-965">16:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-965" data-t="965">That's it. I don't know how to look it up. Like, do I ask AI or something? Couldn't.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-971">16:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-971" data-t="971">Wait. What was the discussion? AI will never tell you. You can't. If you, if you, if you meet a chick in a conference and she's hot and she's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-979" data-t="979">tall and you take her home, She hired</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-981">16:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-981" data-t="981">a And you, and your daughter would be She hired a security guard</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-984">16:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-984" data-t="984">recently. She doesn't, you don't know if it's a guy or a girl. You cannot trust AI to tell you somebody's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-990" data-t="990">correct gender. They will fucking lie.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-995">16:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-995" data-t="995">I don't I don't think I really know of any tall women</span> <span class="cue" id="t-998" data-t="998">in Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1001">16:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1001" data-t="1001">Maybe we'll come back to it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1004">16:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1004" data-t="1004">I mean, there's not that many.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1007">16:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1007" data-t="1007">Yeah. That's the the one tall woman</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1009" data-t="1009">who identifies as a man,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1011" data-t="1011">who's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1012" data-t="1012">good looking as a man.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1018">16:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1018" data-t="1018">No. I got it backwards. I was looking for hot chips. No. You got it wrong.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1024">17:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1024" data-t="1024">Sounds like Joe Nakamoto. Well, not Joe Nakamoto.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1030" data-t="1030">Man, Jesus.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1032">17:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1032" data-t="1032">What's that speech searching in the background?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1034" data-t="1034">Because</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1036">17:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1036" data-t="1036">Sorry. What was the what was the point that you were making? I don't remember.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1042">17:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1042" data-t="1042">We were just talking about Dennis Porter and orgies. Talking about Dennis Porter.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1045">17:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1045" data-t="1045">Fucking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1048" data-t="1048">a.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1049" data-t="1049">Anyhow.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1050">17:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1050" data-t="1050">So do you think do you think the orgies are still part of Bitcoin or or not so much anymore? It's cleaned up a little bit.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1058">17:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1058" data-t="1058">I don't know that they were part of Bitcoin then.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1062" data-t="1062">The problem with Bitcoin then was it was all dudes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1065" data-t="1065">So, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1068" data-t="1068">I don't know. I think I think the orgies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1070" data-t="1070">I think the orgies are coming.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1075" data-t="1075">Do you think the high the 100 k party on the yacht, did did you go to that? Did that was there any, like, orgy spin offs that came from? That seemed like a good opportunity. No. But that could have been like, I think they should have been naked. They should have been fucking they there should have been, like, babies made on that night. There are a lot of Bitcoin babies. That that's a that's another thing.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1096">18:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1096" data-t="1096">I think we need more. Yeah. I think if I I don't think you could trust Bitcoin Magazine for that. I think if you're gonna have, like, a a big conference that turns into an orgy, that's gotta be run by Swan, and I think that has a chance of happening in Washington, DC. I think there's gonna be a lot of gay dudes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1112" data-t="1112">in the government</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1113" data-t="1113">who are orange tilled, and it'll be a good opportunity to have like a to some side orgies.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1119">18:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1119" data-t="1119">Well, I mean, it's a part of working with the government in general is there has to be orgies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1123" data-t="1123">basically.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1127">18:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1127" data-t="1127">Yes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1128" data-t="1128">I think that's been, sort of revealed in the last few years.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1132">18:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1132" data-t="1132">Yeah. David Bailey,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1133" data-t="1133">got invited to Bohemian Grove, so he's gonna be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1137" data-t="1137">Did he really? Just getting in his first one this summer,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1140">19:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1140" data-t="1140">I think.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1142">19:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1142" data-t="1142">Fucking Bohemian Grove. Ever</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1146" data-t="1146">been? No. I've I've seen the videos, though.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1151">19:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1151" data-t="1151">I think that I think that, like, if you were, like, a undercover,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1156" data-t="1156">you know, fed in in spaces or clubhouse from the CIA, if you were like, hey, it'd be so much easier because, like, they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1162" data-t="1162">they're just easier living a double, like, that double life and just trolling really well and going into character. So I bet they have, like, great orgies.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1170" data-t="1170">Like, they were just at Strand. They just had a conference at Strand. They just had a conference at Strand. G headquarters, right, by Langley.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1175" data-t="1175">That was probably they'd buy us some great after parties at that fucking conference last week. Yeah. You think, you think they had orgies?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1184" data-t="1184">I think it's I think Guarantee. I think they're I think they're rejected each other off metaphorically, if not physically.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1190">19:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1190" data-t="1190">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1192" data-t="1192">Well, definitely metaphorically.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1195" data-t="1195">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1196" data-t="1196">Yeah. And I,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1198" data-t="1198">I like what you guys do. This is, this is a great little podcast. It's completely uninformative, but that's what makes it great.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1205">20:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1205" data-t="1205">I don't know. People people call us. They they they say we're the most thermodynamically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1210" data-t="1210">sound Bitcoin company. That's probably true.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1214">20:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1214" data-t="1214">Well, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1215" data-t="1215">hear something that's in the headlines every day now, which we knew come we saw that comment if we're Bitcoiners listening to podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1222" data-t="1222">couple years ago, El Salvador, nothing but the headlines, they're good and the bad, but there's a lot of like mixed feelings about El Salvador lately.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1230" data-t="1230">They they took the Tether money.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1233" data-t="1233">They're taking the IMF money. They're taking away the Chivo ATMs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1238" data-t="1238">But what's your take on El Salvador right now? What do you think that do you my opinion is that it was just like, that's a nation state</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1246">20:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1246" data-t="1246">using Bitcoin as part of its tools to, like, upgrade.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1250" data-t="1250">Do you think it's anything more than that? Like, what's your your take right now?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1254">20:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1254" data-t="1254">I I never I I never know because, like, these, these these geopolitical things are so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1259" data-t="1259">complicated,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1260" data-t="1260">and I don't know anything about their country. Like, this is, like, one of those things where Bitcoiners</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1264" data-t="1264">had never heard of El Salvador until they decided to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1267" data-t="1267">start using Bitcoin in the country. And then the current mix, that's our favorite country. And I was like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1273" data-t="1273">a what?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1275">21:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1275" data-t="1275">And, and so Bitcoiners now think they know a lot about El Salvador.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1280" data-t="1280">You know, I don't think we do.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1282" data-t="1282">It could be it could be that maybe,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1285" data-t="1285">the El Salvadorians,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1286" data-t="1286">love,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1287" data-t="1287">being</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1288">21:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1288" data-t="1288">subject to the whims of a dictator,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1291" data-t="1291">and maybe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1293" data-t="1293">maybe that's a good thing for a while. Maybe that's what, you know, every country needs every once in a while is a good dictator,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1299" data-t="1299">Or it might be that they, like, at some point vote someone in to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1303" data-t="1303">continue,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1304" data-t="1304">and to allow MS 13 to run wild again. Who knows? But, but in the in the meantime, it's a fun experiment to watch.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1311">21:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1311" data-t="1311">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1312" data-t="1312">there there definitely are some benefits of living under a dictator, and I think North Korea</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1317" data-t="1317">North Korea has really set</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1319" data-t="1319">the the standard for the world. And I don't know why Bitcoin podcasters don't talk about it more, but North Korea was the first</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1326" data-t="1326">Bitcoin country</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1327" data-t="1327">in the world</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1329">22:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1329" data-t="1329">to adopt a Bitcoin standard. Oh, 100%.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1332">22:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1332" data-t="1332">Well, we said this a lot to Richard Veer. You know, he would he would talk about how, in a world</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1336" data-t="1336">where where where everyone uses Bitcoin, there's no war. And they'd be like, yeah. That's, like, that's why countries that we, like, admire and love, like, North Korea have been stacking for so long because that's the world that we can't wait for,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1350" data-t="1350">where the North Korean government is one of the wealthiest in the world. That's that will be a great a great place.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1356">22:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1356" data-t="1356">Mhmm. Right. They're really good at allocating capital. So once they get it in the form of Bitcoin, they will be good stewards</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1363">22:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1363" data-t="1363">of of the network. Think of think of their think of the country's biggest holdings. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1368" data-t="1368">Here</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1369" data-t="1369">over here, you have Hennessy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1371" data-t="1371">And then over here, you have Bitcoin. Right? And I think, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1375" data-t="1375">the Hennessy mean allows them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1378" data-t="1378">to spend a lot of time</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1380">23:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1380" data-t="1380">holding the Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1382" data-t="1382">because they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1384" data-t="1384">drunk and waiting it out. You know what I mean?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1387" data-t="1387">So they drink,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1388" data-t="1388">and then that allows them to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1391" data-t="1391">hold.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1393">23:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1393" data-t="1393">This is I this is what Russia's doing too. Right. Russia's, got the market Drinking vodka and and HODLing. Yeah. Yeah. So Vodka and HODL. Looks like Netflix and chill. Vodka and HODL.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1404">23:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1404" data-t="1404">Hennessy and HODL.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1406" data-t="1406">That's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1407" data-t="1407">so that's I think I think you're right. I think North Korea is probably gonna come out on the other end of this whole Bitcoin thing real real hot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1415" data-t="1415">It'll be an interesting world to see. And, you know, what I'm really excited about is getting one of those Kim Jong Un designed, like, study desks for my kid because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1424" data-t="1424">yeah, I think he designed them and they, like, you know, move up and down. I think they do that angle thing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1430" data-t="1430">And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1431">23:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1431" data-t="1431">so, like, I think it's probably a very effective desk</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1435" data-t="1435">for studying</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1436" data-t="1436">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1437" data-t="1437">writing on and doing all sorts of other various,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1441" data-t="1441">things.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1443">24:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1443" data-t="1443">Reading,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1445">24:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1445" data-t="1445">Manifestos.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1446">24:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1446" data-t="1446">Song literature. Mhmm.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1449">24:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1449" data-t="1449">We need more we don't replete manifestos.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1451">24:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1451" data-t="1451">You know? We do need more manifestos. I think manifestos would</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1456">24:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1456" data-t="1456">be</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1458">24:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1458" data-t="1458">a positive development of it. We have a lot of white papers. We need more manifestos.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1462">24:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1462" data-t="1462">More of mine. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1464">24:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1464" data-t="1464">I'm working on mine right now. It's called how to live a credentialed life.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1470">24:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1470" data-t="1470">How to live a credentialed life?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1474">24:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1474" data-t="1474">That that on that death seminar.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1477">24:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1477" data-t="1477">When when you finish that book, there should be a certificate at the end.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1481">24:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1481" data-t="1481">Mhmm.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1482">24:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1482" data-t="1482">That's a good idea. I didn't even You gotta do that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1486">24:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1486" data-t="1486">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1487" data-t="1487">It's like a it looks like a diploma,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1490" data-t="1490">and you can just get it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1493" data-t="1493">framed, and you put it up in your podcast studio.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1495">24:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1495" data-t="1495">I Yeah. You need you need more certificates in general, I think.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1499" data-t="1499">Mhmm. Do you think Robert Breedlove</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1501">25:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1501" data-t="1501">That's it. That's who it is. That's the woman. Oh. Oh, Robert Breedlove.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1506">25:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1506" data-t="1506">Oh, he's very tall, and he is long. I did. Too big of a jawline for me.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1513">25:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1513" data-t="1513">A very beautiful woman.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1515">25:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1515" data-t="1515">Back back to El Salvador for a second. I think, and this is what I sense a lot of people, but in this my perspective,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1523" data-t="1523">I think a lot of people, they didn't know the history of El Salvador very all the details, but they had the fight and they knew it was fucked up. And I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1532" data-t="1532">we were just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1534" data-t="1534">hoping to see that this dictator</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1536" data-t="1536">could succeed and help them, but we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1540" data-t="1540">on the Bitcoin standard. Now that he's going off a Bitcoin standard, this dictatorship could get ugly really quick, But we had hoped that an or an orange pill dictator could be benevolent.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1551">25:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1551" data-t="1551">I do think it's I do think it's interesting that Bitcoiners,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1554" data-t="1554">believe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1555" data-t="1555">that because they're orange pilled,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1558" data-t="1558">that their dictatorialness</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1559" data-t="1559">will be somehow different</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1561" data-t="1561">than it would have otherwise been that somehow the Bitcoin fixes it. Like It just fixes the incentives. Right. It's it well, kind of can,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1568">26:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1568" data-t="1568">but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1569" data-t="1569">but I think he would have put the MS 13 members away regardless. You know? Like, he would have a lot of the stuff a lot of the stuff he's doing has nothing to do with Bitcoin. And so, like, it's not a Bitcoin didn't fix it. Naebu Kelly fixed it. And, and so maybe maybe that's what we should be spending as a currency. Like, we could get him cut his toes off, cut his fingers off, and, like, use his body parts as currency because naive Bukele fixes this. Well, let's let's talk about</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1594">26:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1594" data-t="1594">let's talk about it. I I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1596" data-t="1596">part of the reason why he's putting the MS thirteen gang members away</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1602" data-t="1602">is because his time preference is different</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1604" data-t="1604">than other other,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1607" data-t="1607">Latin American, you know, government officials. Like, you look at Mexico, you look at Columbia,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1613" data-t="1613">And the these Fiat politicians, they they just don't have the time preference. They've never read the Bitcoin standard. They're on they don't even know who Saifedean Ammos is.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1622">27:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1622" data-t="1622">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1623" data-t="1623">they're just like, we're just gonna take these bribes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1626" data-t="1626">from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1627" data-t="1627">these MS thirteen gang members</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1629" data-t="1629">because we have high time preference. So, like, we can't think about the long term of the future whereas Bukele is like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1637" data-t="1637">we he he can he can,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1639">27:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1639" data-t="1639">stack Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1641" data-t="1641">He can bolster the the country's economy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1645" data-t="1645">and then he can loot the coffers later on.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1648">27:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1648" data-t="1648">And that's much more long term play.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1652">27:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1652" data-t="1652">Like, the tradition</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1653">27:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1653" data-t="1653">true. That might be true. But I think what Naive is proving is that if you go in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1657" data-t="1657">and act like a dictator for a while in a country that is absolutely torn to shit by, like, gangs,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1663" data-t="1663">and you just put the gangs away,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1666" data-t="1666">you'll just get elected again and again to be the dictator. So, like, you know, I I don't know that it's again, I don't know that it's Bitcoin that fixed him or gave him this high time preference. I just think he's the first one to figure out that maybe the citizens of the country really want a safe place to live. And that if you make it safe, you continue to be president.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1685">28:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1685" data-t="1685">I really agree with that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1687" data-t="1687">line of thinking, but I think that if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1690" data-t="1690">it's that easy, then why doesn't everybody else just do that? Like, why doesn't Mexico do that? And I think Nayib Bukele</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1697" data-t="1697">was listening to Bitcoin podcast during COVID. And he's like, how</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1701" data-t="1701">Yeah, I do. And I think that he went to he's like, he decided</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1705" data-t="1705">if I pay them in Bitcoin</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1708">28:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1708" data-t="1708">and I do a non KYC deal with these gangs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1713" data-t="1713">to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1714" data-t="1714">you know, cut the shit,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1717" data-t="1717">I think he, you know, he he did that. He he figured out how to pull a really good deal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1723" data-t="1723">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1724" data-t="1724">and put to to get to get the because the gangs have to cooperate</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1727">28:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1727" data-t="1727">to put the gangs away. But somebody, some gangs, somebody in some gang has to be the winner. So you're gonna have to put everybody else Some gang members are compliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1738" data-t="1738">while the others I think I think Bukele figured out how to pay</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1743" data-t="1743">a good compliant,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1745" data-t="1745">he he realigned their incentives. So he understood their incentives.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1748" data-t="1748">And he's like, you'll sell out all these fucking poor dudes with this shitty tattoo,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1753" data-t="1753">and you can can out control these neighborhoods. You just gotta pay your taxes. You have to afford your taxes. You can fucking do whatever you want once you can afford your taxes. You wanna waste it playing video games, whatever.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1764">29:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1764" data-t="1764">But you can be your dang shit, but you gotta pay your taxes. You think he made an he had he made them change their tattoos so that they would have a new tattoo?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1773" data-t="1773">Only man put tattoos.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1776">29:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1776" data-t="1776">He well, if not physically, then metaphorically. Yeah. Metaphorically. Okay.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1780">29:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1780" data-t="1780">I</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1781">29:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1781" data-t="1781">mean, I think the I think the the long term play for him, which would be really good is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1787" data-t="1787">I don't think being a part of a gang is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1790" data-t="1790">necessarily bad. It's just</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1792">29:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1792" data-t="1792">what type of gang you're in. Like we're in the orange gang, for example.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1797">29:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1797" data-t="1797">Yeah. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1800" data-t="1800">he needs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1801" data-t="1801">I I think because he has been around Bitcoin for a while, he understands the importance of Bitcoin meme gangs.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1809">30:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1809" data-t="1809">That makes sense.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1810" data-t="1810">That's true. Is is Dennis Porter the head of a gang?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1814">30:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1814" data-t="1814">The Satoshi Action meme gang?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1817">30:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1817" data-t="1817">Yeah. It's, it's a five o, you know, a nonprofit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1820" data-t="1820">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1821" data-t="1821">they,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1822" data-t="1822">they do coin joints for people. I see.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1826" data-t="1826">It it's definitely a much more And then they pay the politicians. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1831">30:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1831" data-t="1831">Do you use it? Much more mature and developed than, like, triple elite memes or,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1835">30:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1835" data-t="1835">meme factories, some of these old meme gangs. But the but the point is you you have to know the meme gangs well enough so you know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1843" data-t="1843">which,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1844" data-t="1844">which kind of memes to post on social media when, like, Time magazine or economics</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1849" data-t="1849">or, The Economist is calling you a dictator,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1852" data-t="1852">that's when you post a screenshot</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1854" data-t="1854">of yeast to act in one more sat for the El Salvador cold storage.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1858">30:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1858" data-t="1858">Or you talk about Bitcoin bonds or you talk about volcano bonds or Bitcoin city.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1864" data-t="1864">And then people are like, this dude's not a dictator like the Fiat mainstream media said. This dude's listen. He's a Bitcoiner. Like Do you do you think he turns on Max Keiser at some point?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1875" data-t="1875">Oh, no doubt.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1877">31:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1877" data-t="1877">Think you're Do you think Max Kaiser gets thrown in the volcano</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1880" data-t="1880">or thrown in the prison with the MS 13 prisoners?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1883">31:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1883" data-t="1883">Mhmm. I think Max Kaiser says Howard Letnick. He's just like a a dude that went down there to hike and mock, be supportive to his bro, like his longtime friend or whatever, get some benefits on the side,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1895" data-t="1895">hang out, enjoy life, and now he's, like, thrust into this geopolitical</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1899" data-t="1899">fucking, like, the high of the storm. And Max Keiser I mean, Bukele is looking at Max, and Max is selling. Nate, Two twenty is still in play. Nade. And now Bukele is YOLO and shit out, and now he's gotta go to the IMF because either his boy, his oracle, Max Kaiser, pulled him two twenty was his was still in play. And now we're at 58 k. Right? You know what I mean? Like, I think he's gonna essentially be like, I need more accurate predictions from you, Max Kaiser.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1927">32:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1927" data-t="1927">Man, you made me look. We're not at 58 k. Thank God.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1932">32:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1932" data-t="1932">I'm just saying, like, this was he's been saying this stuff for years. Two twenty is always his own play. It's in play. It isn't play.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1939" data-t="1939">So it is. But that's that's not</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1942">32:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1942" data-t="1942">It's like me making par in golf.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1945">32:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1945" data-t="1945">You don't need Max Keiser for that. I could tell you that t 20 is still on play, and that would be a lot cheaper than Max Keiser.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1951" data-t="1951">So, Naya, if you could call me up, I will be your guru.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1955">32:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1955" data-t="1955">Will you wear yoga pants?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1957">32:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1957" data-t="1957">No. No. The beep the bugle is as good as as Max Kaiser when it comes to Bitcoin news. So</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1963">32:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1963" data-t="1963">This is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1965" data-t="1965">I don't This is part of why it's so important to Right. I think, honestly, I think the problem with the bugle is it's far more accurate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1973" data-t="1973">than Max has ever been.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1977">32:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1977" data-t="1977">So People, yeah, people don't like accuracy. People don't like when you make bearish predictions. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1984">33:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1984" data-t="1984">Well, we we came out speaking of accuracy, we came up with a new,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1989" data-t="1989">new price model.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1992">33:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1992" data-t="1992">Okay. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1993" data-t="1993">Hit me.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1995">33:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1995" data-t="1995">Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1996" data-t="1996">podcast</span> <span class="cue" data-t="1996">tower law. Okay.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2001">33:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2001" data-t="2001">Let me analyze this.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2004">33:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2004" data-t="2004">The more the more Bitcoin podcasts there are, the higher the price goes.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2009">33:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2009" data-t="2009">I like this. This is great. It's like Bitcoin mining. Like, the the higher the hash rate, the higher the price kind of thing. Mhmm. Yeah. But the more Bitcoin podcast, do does the quality matter or just quantity?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2019" data-t="2019">Quantity. Quantity. So you just want more.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2021">33:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2021" data-t="2021">But but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2023" data-t="2023">but the the more there is, inevitably,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2026" data-t="2026">the higher quality they'll become.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2029">33:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2029" data-t="2029">You were, yeah, we were talking earlier. Before we started recording, we were talking about MicroStrategy, and you asked us, like, if the demand for this infinite,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2036" data-t="2036">and if the supply keeps increasing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2039" data-t="2039">and the sub we know that the supply of Bitcoin podcast cannot just be entropy because you have to listen to forty hours per week. That's energy to be able to start your own and be able to, like, have the thought to start your own.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2052" data-t="2052">So if the supply keeps growing, it must mean that the demand is infinite.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2056" data-t="2056">So that's that's the only way we can tell. Have you have you guys considered that</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2061">34:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2061" data-t="2061">that your wisdom needs a paywall?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2066">34:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2066" data-t="2066">No.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2069" data-t="2069">What would that look like?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2071">34:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2071" data-t="2071">Only You're talking like a Patreon.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2073" data-t="2073">OnlyFans.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2074">34:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2074" data-t="2074">Well Yeah. We're we're gonna we're gonna be doing doing a lot of live performances. I think that's that's gonna be one of the paywalls. You gotta you gotta buy tickets to to see us. So we're like, we were we were talking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2086" data-t="2086">so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2087" data-t="2087">I kinda think of ourself as we're we're like the in many ways, we're like the school of America's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2094" data-t="2094">for Bitcoin podcasters.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2096" data-t="2096">Right? So like one of the things that we do on the side</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2099" data-t="2099">is we we teach a lot of people about how to podcast about Bitcoin. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2104">35:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2104" data-t="2104">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2105" data-t="2105">I think that How to just Hey, well, I think I think we need to do like an $800 course on how to be a Bitcoin podcaster. Right. I and I don't think there's anything that precludes you on OnlyFans from OnlyPublishing</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2116">35:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2116" data-t="2116">podcast. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2117" data-t="2117">if you wanted to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2119" data-t="2119">at ERC, like, consult coaching consulting on how to make Bitcoin podcast, You could just subscribe to our OnlyFans, and that's how you could get the RSS feed. So that is a possibility. Yeah. I think OnlyFans is really, like, where you guys need to be.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2133" data-t="2133">Yeah. Not a lot of Bitcoin content on OnlyFans. They will and they won't punish us for promoting people smoking cigarettes. So</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2141">35:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2141" data-t="2141">Yeah. We can bundle in our non KYC</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2143">35:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2143" data-t="2143">feet pics that we're selling through. You could.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2147">35:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2147" data-t="2147">You know? Somebody's got a net I got 2,002</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2150" data-t="2150">Natalie Brunel foot foot foot pick from Elsa Altidore.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2154">35:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2154" data-t="2154">Like, are you guys, like, are you guys, searching the Internet for, like, rare foot picks?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2158">35:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2158" data-t="2158">No. We're not doing we're just we're just connecting. We're just connecting. Oh, you guys are, like, wholesalers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2164" data-t="2164">We do we're just people peer to peer. That's good.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2168">36:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2168" data-t="2168">Where can I buy those?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2170">36:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2170" data-t="2170">Just DM me and,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2173">36:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2173" data-t="2173">I'll know, sir. Nice.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2176">36:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2176" data-t="2176">People think she's real pretty.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2178" data-t="2178">I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2179" data-t="2179">I think Breedlove is a little prettier, though.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2182">36:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2182" data-t="2182">I I think Breedlove is pretty, but there there's this issue, which is there's not enough women. We I call it Podkoff goggles.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2193">36:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2193" data-t="2193">Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2195">36:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2195" data-t="2195">Mhmm.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2196">36:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2196" data-t="2196">Yeah. You put on Podkoff goggles. Yeah. And, you know, it might be a It it turns it turns sixes into fourteens.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2204">36:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2204" data-t="2204">Right.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2206">36:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2206" data-t="2206">Yeah. There's not Exactly. Man. There's not a It's binary. It's no. It's it's binary. You either would is or you won't. Zeros and ones. Bitcoin is like prison. You know?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2216">36:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2216" data-t="2216">Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, we come here.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2220" data-t="2220">We are just a bunch of lonely guys,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2222" data-t="2222">and You pick a gang.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2224" data-t="2224">You pick a gang. Yeah. That's true. You're looking at El Salvador</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2228" data-t="2228">or Supermax? I'm part I'm in I'm I'm</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2231" data-t="2231">I'm in the Jewish gang,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2234">37:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2234" data-t="2234">here in Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2236" data-t="2236">And I don't know what you what are you, Rod?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2239">37:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2239" data-t="2239">I I'm I'm gonna I'm so aspiring to be in the Jewish gang. Yeah. I'm I wanna yeah. That I'm trying to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2246" data-t="2246">work up to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2247" data-t="2247">that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2248">37:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2248" data-t="2248">Yeah. I'm not Trying to impress them. I'm not Jewish religiously or or Jewish through birth, but I like to think of myself as Jewish because I worked in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2257" data-t="2257">media for so long. And I I just figured, like, I'm kinda I've kinda become Jewish through osmosis.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2262">37:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2262" data-t="2262">So maybe maybe maybe, you you know, the two newest members of the Jewish gang right here with me right here on the PodCon.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2270" data-t="2270">Right. Exactly. It's the best of the gangs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2274" data-t="2274">It's the Bitcoin acquisition gang is what we call ourselves.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2278" data-t="2278">So but, yeah, you join Bitcoin. You you you you join a gang, and you just you don't see</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2284" data-t="2284">you don't see any women.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2285" data-t="2285">They're not here. You know?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2287">38:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2287" data-t="2287">So you gotta go you gotta go places</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2290" data-t="2290">that aren't Bitcoin, like church,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2293" data-t="2293">or something to meet them. And I think that's probably how you avoid PodCon goggles.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2299" data-t="2299">And in all honesty, the worst the worst women are the ones that know anything about Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2305">38:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2305" data-t="2305">I I think Lynn Alden's great.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2307" data-t="2307">It's super hot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2310" data-t="2310">She knows a lot about Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2314">38:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2314" data-t="2314">True.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2314">38:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" data-t="2314">Yeah. So that might she might be the exception to the rule right there. The accept yeah. Absolutely.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2320">38:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2320" data-t="2320">So Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2322" data-t="2322">Yeah. I think I'd rather meet a girl on that. I'd rather read a girl at Sunday school than bit block boom. You know? Yeah. This is this is my bit block boom girlfriend.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2331">38:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2331" data-t="2331">On your your niece's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2333" data-t="2333">bar mitzvah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2336">38:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2336" data-t="2336">So Exactly.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2338">38:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2338" data-t="2338">Yeah. Bot in a bar mitzvah?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2340">39:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2340" data-t="2340">Yeah. Yeah. Bat mitzvah. My bad. So tell so tell me about being Jewish. How's it how what's it like for you to be Jewish in Bitcoin?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2349">39:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2349" data-t="2349">Well, you you see there there's a number of advantages. Like, for example,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2355" data-t="2355">anytime I wanna get a story published in the media, I just call the Bitcoin Bugle</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2359" data-t="2359">Mhmm. And they'll do it. Nothing I I don't even have to ask any questions or anything.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2365" data-t="2365">Same with CoinDesk</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2366" data-t="2366">or,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2367" data-t="2367">any other Bitcoin news sources to get the I get I get whatever I want published.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2371">39:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2371" data-t="2371">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2372" data-t="2372">by virtue of the fact that I am in the Jewish gang,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2375" data-t="2375">Bitcoin just shows up in my wallets.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2378" data-t="2378">Mhmm.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2379" data-t="2379">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2380" data-t="2380">it's it's actually neat. You kinda get paid for being</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2383">39:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2383" data-t="2383">a certain type of person,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2387" data-t="2387">but then you gotta be on the lookout because every few years,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2389" data-t="2389">the world wants to kill you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2391" data-t="2391">Mhmm. So you just, you know. Well, it's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2395">39:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2395" data-t="2395">it is be like, being Jewish is kinda like having credentials.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2398">39:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2398" data-t="2398">You know what I mean? Yeah. You're born you're born with credentials,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2403" data-t="2403">which, you know, that's that's why I work so hard to become Jewish. I just, like, worked really hard</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2408">40:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2408" data-t="2408">to join our Right. You think the clients to become a money transmitter license is is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2413" data-t="2413">is arduous. Try becoming a credentialed Jewish guy. Right.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2418">40:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2418" data-t="2418">Well, just becoming I mean, a Jewish guy. I don't just say credentialed, but just becoming a Jewish guy. Right. Right. So are you a religious</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2425" data-t="2425">Jew or ethnic Jew or you just identify as Jew? I'm a religious Christian who identifies as a Jew for the purpose of Bitcoin acquisition.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2434" data-t="2434">Does that make sense?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2435">40:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2435" data-t="2435">Yeah. Yeah. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2436" data-t="2436">Like, you you relate to having been responsible for killing Jesus,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2441" data-t="2441">and that's, like, important in your faith in Christianity.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2446">40:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2446" data-t="2446">Well, I relate yes. Correct. Yes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2450" data-t="2450">Yeah. I I both did it and believe it happened</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2454" data-t="2454">Mhmm. And that it was ineffective.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2457">40:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2457" data-t="2457">Like, a lot of a lot of, Christians, like, there's an animosity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2461" data-t="2461">towards</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2463" data-t="2463">the Jews</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2464" data-t="2464">Yeah. For being responsible for killing Jesus.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2467" data-t="2467">Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2468">41:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2468" data-t="2468">So you just embrace it. I just embrace it. I I play I I get I'm on both sides.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2475">41:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2475" data-t="2475">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2476" data-t="2476">how how long have you been a been a Christian for? My whole life. I was born on a Christian commune.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2482" data-t="2482">Oh, yeah. What was that like?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2485">41:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2485" data-t="2485">Very Christian.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2488" data-t="2488">I was when I was a kid, we were we we lived in Brazil. My parents were</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2493" data-t="2493">missionaries,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2495" data-t="2495">Jesus missionaries,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2496" data-t="2496">and, they they you know, I was born on the the sister commune in Brazil.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2502" data-t="2502">And a few years later, we moved back to The United States and lived on The</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2506">41:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2506" data-t="2506">United States version of the commune. So</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2508">41:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2508" data-t="2508">communes all around, and it was cool. Yeah. I just yeah. I I think I I had a not quite as extreme, but somewhat similar fairy religious background.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2518" data-t="2518">And I just think that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2520" data-t="2520">I think that the Jews, especially when it comes to them, they just have a lower time preference. Like, the Jews are still waiting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2526" data-t="2526">and the Christians, they jump the gun on Oh, no. Right. They wanted to do the Christians figured it out.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2532">42:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2532" data-t="2532">I I, you know, like like, I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2535" data-t="2535">I, I occasionally act as the Shabbos goi for a friend.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2539" data-t="2539">He, like, will he'll he'll walk to my house,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2544" data-t="2544">Shabbat and knock on my door at 11:30 at night cause he had to walk, like, four and a half miles, and he'll say, hey,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2552" data-t="2552">I forgot to turn off my stove.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2554" data-t="2554">And I'll say, oh,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2556">42:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2556" data-t="2556">give me a sec. I'll get my car. So I drive to his house. He has to walk back, obviously,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2562" data-t="2562">and I turn off his stove.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2564" data-t="2564">And then on the way back to to my house as I'm passing him, I stop and I say I I call him over the car and I say, you don't have to do this anymore.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2573" data-t="2573">The messiah</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2574" data-t="2574">already returned. So, like, this is all, you know, stupid and pointless. But I'll turn off your stove if you need it anytime.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2588">43:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2588" data-t="2588">I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2591" data-t="2591">there should be more,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2592" data-t="2592">Jew ish Bitcoin podcasters and I think there would be more Oh, and one of the things that I appreciate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2599" data-t="2599">about Jesus is the is they love to complain and I love to complain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2604" data-t="2604">and Bitcoin podcasting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2606" data-t="2606">makes it makes it so that you can get paid in Bitcoin</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2609">43:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2609" data-t="2609">to complain people will hear, listen to you complain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2612" data-t="2612">and I think that that like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2614" data-t="2614">that's unlocked. I think I think more people need to figure out a way</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2618" data-t="2618">to fight because if people will pay to listen to you complain,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2621">43:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2621" data-t="2621">it means that you're fucking complaining about the right things. I'm trying to get bit to claim Tina to do a podcast with me.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2630">43:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2630" data-t="2630">Yeah. For the very end. What's that?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2634" data-t="2634">Exactly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2636" data-t="2636">You what's he doing? Or why why what's his hesitation?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2642">44:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2642" data-t="2642">I he's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2643" data-t="2643">he's he doesn't think his mother would approve.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2650">44:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2650" data-t="2650">I mean, that's that's a really hard spot to be in. Like, I think we all want our our mothers to approve of our Bitcoin podcast. Yeah. I think so.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2660" data-t="2660">It it is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2662" data-t="2662">a some, like, deep, you know, childhood trauma there. If your if your mom doesn't accept your your Bitcoin podcast, it's kinda like a a deep rejection of,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2672">44:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Junseth</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2672" data-t="2672">what your mom ever listened to this?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2677" data-t="2677">What sorry. What was that? Has your mother ever listened to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2681" data-t="2681">the Podconf podcast?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2683">44:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2683" data-t="2683">No.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2685" data-t="2685">She's not because she doesn't approve of it at all. And I can't imagine that she would.</span></span></p> +