0:01Richard Greaser Alright. We're recording tonight.

0:05Rod Palmer We're coming back. It's been a little bit a little bit since we've done an episode of Behind the Podcast, but we have a very special guest tonight. It's a very special episode. Coming to us all the way from the land of Ron DeSantis is June Seth. And if you don't know who June Seth is, then you have obviously not been listening

0:30Rod Palmer to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast. We

0:33Junseth Yeah. I would say if for those coming in new, it's but Dickerson on Twitter and e. This is the first Dick Carson. Dick Carson. This is the first Maxi Madness final four member that we've got on the podcast. So this is a this is a big deal. It's final four.

0:52Junseth Now, yeah, man. Congrats on the performance. Thanks. I, I trained hard for it. Really, really. I never and I didn't see it coming. I I think it was Sailor who upset me. Yeah. Yeah. Sailor Sailor took it. I mean, he's a real athlete. So I felt I felt a little bit like, like, a little bit of a bitch, losing to Michael Sailor. I thought that, like,

1:18Junseth I just I don't know. To me, I thought that I was the bigger Bitcoin Maxi. He's kind of like he's a little bit of a twink. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I was just gonna say it. I would say,

1:30Junseth did it hurt the ego to lose Maxi Madness to a gay fed?

1:36Junseth Yeah. It did. I didn't I didn't think Twitter would let that happen. It hurt. It really did. And like I said, I mean, like, in in that relationship, I would I would be the top. There's no question. Right? Like, it just really, it did it did make me feel inadequate, small.

1:56Junseth But I do think I I do think that the right person won Maxi Madness. I think, I think we all know that Teddy Bitcoins is maybe the greatest Maxi of all time.

2:08Rod Palmer I agree. Right? Is do you think Teddy Bitcoins is gonna be invited to speak at,

2:15Junseth the Bitcoin in DC I don't know. Conference? I don't know how they avoid it given his performance.

2:22Junseth I mean, more votes. I I don't think they they don't

2:25Junseth They what?

2:26Junseth I said, I don't think they're gonna want want to invite him, but I think you're gonna have politicians. You're gonna have people like, Cynthia Lamas who are gonna ask them, like, is Teddy Bitcoins gonna be there? And they're gonna have to invite Teddy Bitcoins to get anybody to show up to their event.

2:40Junseth They're gonna have to, I think. Everyone wants to meet Teddy. I know Teddy. Teddy's a Teddy's a good guy. And I just I just am very, I'm proud of the fact that he put up such a good showing. I I really think the community came together, voted ethically and, with IDs and ensured that you guys just you guys really ran a clean,

3:02Junseth compliant contest, I gotta say. I really, I I admire your efforts, theirs, and, can't wait till next year.

3:11Rod Palmer It was truly one of the safest and secure most secure elections in human history. I think that I've seen that evidence. It was a proud moment for democracy.

3:23Junseth Yeah. So I I love, I love Maxi Madness every year. I usually don't tune in until the end, but I guess because I I I don't know if you guys accidentally included me on the bracket this year or, or how that ended up happening. I just getting on the bracket made me pay a little bit more attention. I was like, oh, oh, look at that. Apparently, I'm playing.

3:45Rod Palmer No. You definitely belong on it. I mean, you you were a pioneer in the Bitcoin podcasting ecosystem. You were one of the first people to give people a reason to live. Listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast a week. You

3:59Junseth could start too is I think we, I think I think our show is usually between three and six, sometimes seven hours. Mhmm. So, you know, it was a good it was a good chunk of that forty hour, the forty hour allocation.

4:15Rod Palmer Yeah. I wanna I wanna talk about this. So you were interested you you podcasted about Bitcoin pre Dennis Porter. What was the Bitcoin ecosystem like before Dennis Porter?

4:30Junseth It was it was mostly drug dealers and hookers and, and

4:35Junseth and orgies. Once that's a coincidence because before Bitcoin and Dennis Porter's life, I've heard that he was like a promoter at a a strip club in Portland.

4:48Junseth Well, that would make sense. That's what you have to get exposure, to Bitcoin through exposure to Bitcoin users. Like and it sounds like he was probably, right underneath a number of Bitcoin users.

5:02Junseth Yeah. That's true. His Dennis Porter, he is a self proclaimed, progressive, liberal leaning Bitcoiner, and he saw, women, you know, female sex workers, and he thought they are being exploited.

5:16Junseth Bitcoin fixes this. Right. So he he kinda became like

5:20Junseth it's almost like he was like, he managed their their Bitcoin. It was like he was their orange pill pimp. Well, this was like a few years ago. I remember I got a call from Bloomberg after one of the Bitcoin, Bitcoin conferences, and they asked me if I thought it was appropriate that I think it was a dash, or number it was just some other party. Professional, professional blockchain party

5:42Junseth happened at, what is ostensibly a bit a a strip club in in in Fort Lauderdale. And I said, well, what like, why would that be a problem? They said, well, the the women of Bitcoin had complained to Forbes about this. And I was like, I, like, I was confused. I said the women of you mean the strippers or, like, who are you talking about? And they were like, the lady was appalled. And I I just I, to this day, can't figure out why.

6:09Rod Palmer Well, let's talk about the orgies. Are orgies a part of being, like, a good Bitcoiner?

6:15Junseth Are they part of being a good Bitcoin? No. They're just they're they're sort of a tangential thing. We didn't know about the orgies. We just kinda followed every lead. So we would have someone come on our show who's a Bitcoiner. In this case, we had a a gay, a gay a gay hooker, come on our show. And not not in the way that you might think he would have come on our show. He came on to be interviewed.

6:40Junseth So, he came on our show, and he invited us to an orgy he was going to, the following night. And, I mean, how can you say no? It's like being invited to a one year old's birthday party. Mhmm. You know what I mean? So we, we went and we paid $50 at the door at a Sheraton,

7:01Junseth and we went in and just observed, nothing less than what I would call bucak. But, like, they were, like, 65 year olds doing bucak.

7:13Rod Palmer And what what did you take away from the experience?

7:16Junseth Syphilis, gonorrhea, AIDS, and, HPV.

7:24Junseth Did you have any trouble finding non KYC HIV medication before Noster?

7:31Junseth No. Because we had Silk Road.

7:34Junseth Oh, okay. Yeah. So you still had Silk Road?

7:37Junseth We had Silk Road back then until Ross was caught. Sad day.

7:42Junseth Did you take any drugs, any psychedelics or drink or did you just do this? Did you use raw dog, a senior citizen orgy?

7:49Junseth No. We just you know, you know, what's really funny is that we walked into this thing, and we set up in another hotel room and would come back, and we were giving updates to the listeners as to what we were seeing. And we we walked in there with recording devices and just started, like, interviewing people who were like, are you, like, enjoying this? I do this every week. And they were just, like, very happy to be interviewed. Like, they were my favorite member. There was this young Brazilian guy. They're like, all the women. They were, like, 65 year old, like, 300 pound cows. And, you know, there's this guy there. He's like this Italian guy. He's got this, you know, this golden chain around his neck, and he's got his white hair out. And he's like, he's not fat, but he's not thin. You know what I mean? He's like kinda got that, like, Italian hard gut. You know what I mean? And he's just raw dog and these chicks. You know? These 65 year old fat women. And then there's this, like, 28 year old, 26 year old,

8:42Junseth like, six pack guy in the corner, totally naked, ripping off condoms, putting new ones on, popping, like, Viagoras, and just going after him. And he's, like, pointing out to me. He's, like, I've tried that one, and I've tried that one, and I've tried that one, and I've tried that one. That one over there is the only one I couldn't I haven't tried yet. So I'm gonna go over there and do that one. And then, there's another guy there who was this kind of awkward guy. It was pretty clear to me that, like, this guy can't get laid outside of an orgy. He was kind of a a weird he was he wasn't, you know, like, a a hideously ugly guy, just kind of a normal looking guy. And he would walk up to the women, with their, you know, vaginas hanging out and kind of poke at them and and hope that they would allow him in an orgy to just, like, bang the fuck out of them. And every time he would do that, the women would slap him away.

9:30Junseth I was like, this guy can't even get laid at an orgy. It felt really bad.

9:35Junseth What what if you were to participate in orgy like that or any type of orgy? What, which character do you what what what would you be doing? Would you be like, what the fuck is going on? Or would you just be like, this is I'm the king of this orgy. I think I admire

9:50Junseth the Brazil the Brazilian six pack guy. You know? He just didn't care, about what pussy he was getting. Right? He was just going person to person to person, 65 year old, 32 year old, 55 year old, just whatever there was to sample. He was he was doing the whole buffet. And he, you know, he also I don't think could've there's no way he was enjoying it because he was going to completion. You know? So he was just popping a pill and then doing the next one. So, like, I I I admired the effort. I think his goal must have been to, like, fuck as many chicks as possible. And, and I was just I was just kind of I was I was observing. It was the most interesting person of the night. There are there's a lot of people, a lot of our people who like the bugle

10:35Junseth and people we've met from doing this who it's like they're like that with Bitcoin podcasts. They just go in and they go, they'll scroll through found, it's like, they'll listen to this one, this one, this one, this one, and they'll just listen to all of them. It doesn't matter what they are. And it's just like, I think they're just, they're just, they're, this guy's at the orgy for the love of the game. And other people are just like they're they're they're tourists or whatever, and it's like it's the same in Bitcoin. It's like you got some people who were there to consume all the podcasts and some people who were just there to fucking

11:07Junseth make Look. We're we're we're make a profit. Anywhere we go, we go for the porn of it. You know what I mean? Yeah. And and here in Bitcoin ambition. Exactly. Like, it's, you know, the, I think I think before Bitcoin, men were more visual. But after Bitcoin, men get off by hearing the voice of other men say sweet nothings into their ears about this Mhmm. Beautiful

11:30Junseth orange currency. Right. Or black people.

11:34Rod Palmer This is one of the powerful things that Dennis Porter is off of the world is because men no longer need Viagra. I just That's what Dennis Porter is off of the world.

11:44Junseth So that was another question that fits right in is how did these guys at orgies get these just unrelenting boners before Dennis Porter? I'm telling Viagra.

11:54Junseth Like, medicine solves not having Dennis Porter around.

12:01Rod Palmer Bitcoin does a lot of things. Right? It it separates church and state or sorry, not church and state, money money and state is one of the big ones that people are on about, but, it also separates boners from pharmaceuticals. Right. And that that's incredible.

12:18Junseth Do you do what I do? Do you carry around in your wallet a picture of dentists?

12:24Rod Palmer I I don't, but should I? Is it a gift? Yeah. It's I mean, it's

12:28Junseth it's I think it's effective.

12:31Junseth Yeah. What if what if you're, like, you're broken down on the side of the road and your wife wants to bang one out before you walk to get some gas and you don't get a boner, you pull out your picture of Dennis. But you remember that Bitcoin has is almost there's always a very one. I'll tell you this. I never thought that I would need it, but then there have been a couple of times where I'm just like,

12:50Junseth what would I have done without this? You know what I mean? It's not often that there's an object in your wallet like that, but this is one of those. Mhmm. And it should be in full color.

13:01Rod Palmer Well, I think, you know, like a lot of our listeners, they're they're orange shells. Are are you familiar with this term, the orange shell? No.

13:10Junseth They can't orange pill anybody. It's like, you can't get laid at a fucking an orgy. It's like this guy couldn't orange pill somebody, you know, in a room full of fucking like, Scientologist recoveries,

13:24Rod Palmer people. They're orange. They're orange cells. Okay. Yeah. Like, they they like, think of somebody. They they go on a Tinder date. Right? Right. And they're really horny. They wanna get laid, but the girl is either a no coiner or a shit coiner, and

13:43Rod Palmer their their primal desire to get laid is overpowered by their primal desire to teach them about Bitcoin. And

13:52Junseth Oh, who's the, who's the female Bitcoiner with the long hair? There's a couple of them. She identifies as a man. She's tall.

14:07Rod Palmer Jeremy Leke Rubin? No. Thin,

14:10Junseth muscular, good looking.

14:14Rod Palmer Or tall. And you don't you dare. Don't you dare. What's his name? I think I know where you're going with this. I'm I'm offended. What's his name?

14:22Junseth Her name?

14:23Rod Palmer No.

14:24Junseth Oh, Joe Nakamoto. No. Not Joe Nakamoto.

14:29Rod Palmer She's a woman. Don't misgender her. She's the queen.

14:36Junseth No. No. No. No. Not her.

14:43Rod Palmer Sam. Gloria Zhao.

14:46Junseth Richard, you're you're evil.

14:48Junseth Sam, Richard. I can't believe you thought that's the

14:54Junseth yeah. That's where I set. Yeah. No. Richard's wrong. Richard, you you gotta

14:58Junseth you're disgusting. You're disgusting. Right? No one was even thinking about that. All that matters all that matters is that her macro is more interesting than her gender, so let's not talk about it. You said Lauren, what are you talking about?

15:10Junseth No. Not Corey Clipston. It's a long hair. The the long hair. The long haired one. The one that the the the one haired girl.

15:19Junseth I have to get I have to get a lip. Oh my god.

15:25Rod Palmer Long haired girl. We need to solve this mystery.

15:28Junseth Tall Good looking tall.

15:32Junseth It's not Jeremy Rubin? No. Not Jeremy Rubin. He's not tall? You oh. This is a stock.

15:42Junseth Good looking. I don't know. I'm totally good looking. I I I don't I don't find her very pretty. But anyhow,

15:58Junseth moving on. Is is is Richard still looking her up?

16:05Rod Palmer That's it. I don't know how to look it up. Like, do I ask AI or something? Couldn't.

16:11Junseth Wait. What was the discussion? AI will never tell you. You can't. If you, if you, if you meet a chick in a conference and she's hot and she's tall and you take her home, She hired

16:21Junseth a And you, and your daughter would be She hired a security guard

16:24Junseth recently. She doesn't, you don't know if it's a guy or a girl. You cannot trust AI to tell you somebody's correct gender. They will fucking lie.

16:35Rod Palmer I don't I don't think I really know of any tall women in Bitcoin.

16:41Junseth Maybe we'll come back to it.

16:44Rod Palmer I mean, there's not that many.

16:47Junseth Yeah. That's the the one tall woman who identifies as a man, who's good looking as a man.

16:58Junseth No. I got it backwards. I was looking for hot chips. No. You got it wrong.

17:04Junseth Sounds like Joe Nakamoto. Well, not Joe Nakamoto. Man, Jesus.

17:12Junseth What's that speech searching in the background? Because

17:16Rod Palmer Sorry. What was the what was the point that you were making? I don't remember.

17:22Junseth We were just talking about Dennis Porter and orgies. Talking about Dennis Porter.

17:25Junseth Fucking a. Anyhow.

17:30Rod Palmer So do you think do you think the orgies are still part of Bitcoin or or not so much anymore? It's cleaned up a little bit.

17:38Junseth I don't know that they were part of Bitcoin then. The problem with Bitcoin then was it was all dudes. So, like, I don't know. I think I think the orgies I think the orgies are coming. Do you think the high the 100 k party on the yacht, did did you go to that? Did that was there any, like, orgy spin offs that came from? That seemed like a good opportunity. No. But that could have been like, I think they should have been naked. They should have been fucking they there should have been, like, babies made on that night. There are a lot of Bitcoin babies. That that's a that's another thing.

18:16Junseth I think we need more. Yeah. I think if I I don't think you could trust Bitcoin Magazine for that. I think if you're gonna have, like, a a big conference that turns into an orgy, that's gotta be run by Swan, and I think that has a chance of happening in Washington, DC. I think there's gonna be a lot of gay dudes in the government who are orange tilled, and it'll be a good opportunity to have like a to some side orgies.

18:39Rod Palmer Well, I mean, it's a part of working with the government in general is there has to be orgies, basically.

18:47Junseth Yes. I think that's been, sort of revealed in the last few years.

18:52Rod Palmer Yeah. David Bailey, got invited to Bohemian Grove, so he's gonna be Did he really? Just getting in his first one this summer,

19:00Richard Greaser I think.

19:02Junseth Fucking Bohemian Grove. Ever been? No. I've I've seen the videos, though.

19:11Junseth I think that I think that, like, if you were, like, a undercover, you know, fed in in spaces or clubhouse from the CIA, if you were like, hey, it'd be so much easier because, like, they're they're just easier living a double, like, that double life and just trolling really well and going into character. So I bet they have, like, great orgies. Like, they were just at Strand. They just had a conference at Strand. They just had a conference at Strand. G headquarters, right, by Langley. That was probably they'd buy us some great after parties at that fucking conference last week. Yeah. You think, you think they had orgies? I think it's I think Guarantee. I think they're I think they're rejected each other off metaphorically, if not physically.

19:50Junseth Yeah. Well, definitely metaphorically. Yeah. Yeah. And I, I like what you guys do. This is, this is a great little podcast. It's completely uninformative, but that's what makes it great.

20:05Rod Palmer I don't know. People people call us. They they they say we're the most thermodynamically sound Bitcoin company. That's probably true.

20:14Junseth Well, you hear something that's in the headlines every day now, which we knew come we saw that comment if we're Bitcoiners listening to podcasts couple years ago, El Salvador, nothing but the headlines, they're good and the bad, but there's a lot of like mixed feelings about El Salvador lately. They they took the Tether money. They're taking the IMF money. They're taking away the Chivo ATMs. But what's your take on El Salvador right now? What do you think that do you my opinion is that it was just like, that's a nation state

20:46Junseth using Bitcoin as part of its tools to, like, upgrade. Do you think it's anything more than that? Like, what's your your take right now?

20:54Junseth I I never I I never know because, like, these, these these geopolitical things are so complicated, and I don't know anything about their country. Like, this is, like, one of those things where Bitcoiners had never heard of El Salvador until they decided to, start using Bitcoin in the country. And then the current mix, that's our favorite country. And I was like, a what?

21:15Junseth And, and so Bitcoiners now think they know a lot about El Salvador. You know, I don't think we do. It could be it could be that maybe, the El Salvadorians, love, being

21:28Junseth subject to the whims of a dictator, and maybe maybe that's a good thing for a while. Maybe that's what, you know, every country needs every once in a while is a good dictator, Or it might be that they, like, at some point vote someone in to continue, and to allow MS 13 to run wild again. Who knows? But, but in the in the meantime, it's a fun experiment to watch.

21:51Rod Palmer Well, there there definitely are some benefits of living under a dictator, and I think North Korea North Korea has really set the the standard for the world. And I don't know why Bitcoin podcasters don't talk about it more, but North Korea was the first Bitcoin country in the world

22:09Rod Palmer to adopt a Bitcoin standard. Oh, 100%.

22:12Junseth Well, we said this a lot to Richard Veer. You know, he would he would talk about how, in a world where where where everyone uses Bitcoin, there's no war. And they'd be like, yeah. That's, like, that's why countries that we, like, admire and love, like, North Korea have been stacking for so long because that's the world that we can't wait for, where the North Korean government is one of the wealthiest in the world. That's that will be a great a great place.

22:36Junseth Mhmm. Right. They're really good at allocating capital. So once they get it in the form of Bitcoin, they will be good stewards

22:43Junseth of of the network. Think of think of their think of the country's biggest holdings. Right? Here over here, you have Hennessy. And then over here, you have Bitcoin. Right? And I think, like, the Hennessy mean allows them to spend a lot of time

23:00Junseth holding the Bitcoin because they're drunk and waiting it out. You know what I mean? So they drink, and then that allows them to hold.

23:13Junseth This is I this is what Russia's doing too. Right. Russia's, got the market Drinking vodka and and HODLing. Yeah. Yeah. So Vodka and HODL. Looks like Netflix and chill. Vodka and HODL.

23:24Junseth Hennessy and HODL. That's, so that's I think I think you're right. I think North Korea is probably gonna come out on the other end of this whole Bitcoin thing real real hot. It'll be an interesting world to see. And, you know, what I'm really excited about is getting one of those Kim Jong Un designed, like, study desks for my kid because, yeah, I think he designed them and they, like, you know, move up and down. I think they do that angle thing. And,

23:51Junseth so, like, I think it's probably a very effective desk for studying and, writing on and doing all sorts of other various, things.

24:03Rod Palmer Reading,

24:05Junseth Manifestos.

24:06Rod Palmer Song literature. Mhmm.

24:09Junseth We need more we don't replete manifestos.

24:11Junseth You know? We do need more manifestos. I think manifestos would

24:16Rod Palmer be

24:18Junseth a positive development of it. We have a lot of white papers. We need more manifestos.

24:22Junseth More of mine. Yeah.

24:24Rod Palmer I'm working on mine right now. It's called how to live a credentialed life.

24:30Junseth How to live a credentialed life?

24:34Junseth That that on that death seminar.

24:37Junseth When when you finish that book, there should be a certificate at the end.

24:41Richard Greaser Mhmm.

24:42Junseth That's a good idea. I didn't even You gotta do that.

24:46Junseth Yeah. It's like a it looks like a diploma, and you can just get it framed, and you put it up in your podcast studio.

24:55Rod Palmer I Yeah. You need you need more certificates in general, I think. Mhmm. Do you think Robert Breedlove

25:01Junseth That's it. That's who it is. That's the woman. Oh. Oh, Robert Breedlove.

25:06Junseth Oh, he's very tall, and he is long. I did. Too big of a jawline for me.

25:13Junseth A very beautiful woman.

25:15Junseth Back back to El Salvador for a second. I think, and this is what I sense a lot of people, but in this my perspective, I think a lot of people, they didn't know the history of El Salvador very all the details, but they had the fight and they knew it was fucked up. And I think that we were just hoping to see that this dictator could succeed and help them, but we on the Bitcoin standard. Now that he's going off a Bitcoin standard, this dictatorship could get ugly really quick, But we had hoped that an or an orange pill dictator could be benevolent.

25:51Junseth I do think it's I do think it's interesting that Bitcoiners, believe that because they're orange pilled, that their dictatorialness will be somehow different than it would have otherwise been that somehow the Bitcoin fixes it. Like It just fixes the incentives. Right. It's it well, kind of can,

26:08Junseth but, but I think he would have put the MS 13 members away regardless. You know? Like, he would have a lot of the stuff a lot of the stuff he's doing has nothing to do with Bitcoin. And so, like, it's not a Bitcoin didn't fix it. Naebu Kelly fixed it. And, and so maybe maybe that's what we should be spending as a currency. Like, we could get him cut his toes off, cut his fingers off, and, like, use his body parts as currency because naive Bukele fixes this. Well, let's let's talk about

26:34Rod Palmer let's talk about it. I I think part of the reason why he's putting the MS thirteen gang members away is because his time preference is different than other other, Latin American, you know, government officials. Like, you look at Mexico, you look at Columbia, And the these Fiat politicians, they they just don't have the time preference. They've never read the Bitcoin standard. They're on they don't even know who Saifedean Ammos is.

27:02Rod Palmer And they're just like, we're just gonna take these bribes from these MS thirteen gang members because we have high time preference. So, like, we can't think about the long term of the future whereas Bukele is like, we he he can he can,

27:19Rod Palmer stack Bitcoin. He can bolster the the country's economy, and then he can loot the coffers later on.

27:28Richard Greaser And that's much more long term play.

27:32Junseth Like, the tradition

27:33Junseth true. That might be true. But I think what Naive is proving is that if you go in and act like a dictator for a while in a country that is absolutely torn to shit by, like, gangs, and you just put the gangs away, you'll just get elected again and again to be the dictator. So, like, you know, I I don't know that it's again, I don't know that it's Bitcoin that fixed him or gave him this high time preference. I just think he's the first one to figure out that maybe the citizens of the country really want a safe place to live. And that if you make it safe, you continue to be president.

28:05Junseth I really agree with that, line of thinking, but I think that if it's that easy, then why doesn't everybody else just do that? Like, why doesn't Mexico do that? And I think Nayib Bukele was listening to Bitcoin podcast during COVID. And he's like, how Yeah, I do. And I think that he went to he's like, he decided if I pay them in Bitcoin

28:28Junseth and I do a non KYC deal with these gangs to, you know, cut the shit, I think he, you know, he he did that. He he figured out how to pull a really good deal and, and put to to get to get the because the gangs have to cooperate

28:47Junseth to put the gangs away. But somebody, some gangs, somebody in some gang has to be the winner. So you're gonna have to put everybody else Some gang members are compliant while the others I think I think Bukele figured out how to pay a good compliant, he he realigned their incentives. So he understood their incentives. And he's like, you'll sell out all these fucking poor dudes with this shitty tattoo, and you can can out control these neighborhoods. You just gotta pay your taxes. You have to afford your taxes. You can fucking do whatever you want once you can afford your taxes. You wanna waste it playing video games, whatever.

29:24Junseth But you can be your dang shit, but you gotta pay your taxes. You think he made an he had he made them change their tattoos so that they would have a new tattoo? Only man put tattoos.

29:36Junseth He well, if not physically, then metaphorically. Yeah. Metaphorically. Okay.

29:40Junseth I

29:41Rod Palmer mean, I think the I think the the long term play for him, which would be really good is I don't think being a part of a gang is necessarily bad. It's just

29:52Junseth what type of gang you're in. Like we're in the orange gang, for example.

29:57Rod Palmer Yeah. I mean, he needs I I think because he has been around Bitcoin for a while, he understands the importance of Bitcoin meme gangs.

30:09Junseth That makes sense. That's true. Is is Dennis Porter the head of a gang?

30:14Rod Palmer The Satoshi Action meme gang?

30:17Junseth Yeah. It's, it's a five o, you know, a nonprofit. So they, they do coin joints for people. I see. It it's definitely a much more And then they pay the politicians. Yeah.

30:31Rod Palmer Do you use it? Much more mature and developed than, like, triple elite memes or,

30:35Junseth meme factories, some of these old meme gangs. But the but the point is you you have to know the meme gangs well enough so you know which, which kind of memes to post on social media when, like, Time magazine or economics or, The Economist is calling you a dictator, that's when you post a screenshot of yeast to act in one more sat for the El Salvador cold storage.

30:58Junseth Or you talk about Bitcoin bonds or you talk about volcano bonds or Bitcoin city. And then people are like, this dude's not a dictator like the Fiat mainstream media said. This dude's listen. He's a Bitcoiner. Like Do you do you think he turns on Max Keiser at some point? Oh, no doubt.

31:17Junseth Think you're Do you think Max Kaiser gets thrown in the volcano or thrown in the prison with the MS 13 prisoners?

31:23Junseth Mhmm. I think Max Kaiser says Howard Letnick. He's just like a a dude that went down there to hike and mock, be supportive to his bro, like his longtime friend or whatever, get some benefits on the side, hang out, enjoy life, and now he's, like, thrust into this geopolitical fucking, like, the high of the storm. And Max Keiser I mean, Bukele is looking at Max, and Max is selling. Nate, Two twenty is still in play. Nade. And now Bukele is YOLO and shit out, and now he's gotta go to the IMF because either his boy, his oracle, Max Kaiser, pulled him two twenty was his was still in play. And now we're at 58 k. Right? You know what I mean? Like, I think he's gonna essentially be like, I need more accurate predictions from you, Max Kaiser.

32:07Junseth Man, you made me look. We're not at 58 k. Thank God.

32:12Junseth I'm just saying, like, this was he's been saying this stuff for years. Two twenty is always his own play. It's in play. It isn't play. So it is. But that's that's not

32:22Junseth It's like me making par in golf.

32:25Junseth You don't need Max Keiser for that. I could tell you that t 20 is still on play, and that would be a lot cheaper than Max Keiser. So, Naya, if you could call me up, I will be your guru.

32:35Junseth Will you wear yoga pants?

32:37Junseth No. No. The beep the bugle is as good as as Max Kaiser when it comes to Bitcoin news. So

32:43Junseth This is I don't This is part of why it's so important to Right. I think, honestly, I think the problem with the bugle is it's far more accurate than Max has ever been.

32:57Junseth So People, yeah, people don't like accuracy. People don't like when you make bearish predictions. Yeah.

33:04Rod Palmer Well, we we came out speaking of accuracy, we came up with a new, new price model.

33:12Junseth Okay. Yeah. Hit me.

33:15Rod Palmer Bitcoin podcast tower law. Okay.

33:21Junseth Let me analyze this.

33:24Rod Palmer The more the more Bitcoin podcasts there are, the higher the price goes.

33:29Junseth I like this. This is great. It's like Bitcoin mining. Like, the the higher the hash rate, the higher the price kind of thing. Mhmm. Yeah. But the more Bitcoin podcast, do does the quality matter or just quantity? Quantity. Quantity. So you just want more.

33:41Rod Palmer But but but the the more there is, inevitably, the higher quality they'll become.

33:49Junseth You were, yeah, we were talking earlier. Before we started recording, we were talking about MicroStrategy, and you asked us, like, if the demand for this infinite, and if the supply keeps increasing and the sub we know that the supply of Bitcoin podcast cannot just be entropy because you have to listen to forty hours per week. That's energy to be able to start your own and be able to, like, have the thought to start your own. So if the supply keeps growing, it must mean that the demand is infinite. So that's that's the only way we can tell. Have you have you guys considered that

34:21Junseth that your wisdom needs a paywall?

34:26Rod Palmer No. What would that look like?

34:31Junseth Only You're talking like a Patreon. OnlyFans.

34:34Rod Palmer Well Yeah. We're we're gonna we're gonna be doing doing a lot of live performances. I think that's that's gonna be one of the paywalls. You gotta you gotta buy tickets to to see us. So we're like, we were we were talking so I kinda think of ourself as we're we're like the in many ways, we're like the school of America's for Bitcoin podcasters. Right? So like one of the things that we do on the side is we we teach a lot of people about how to podcast about Bitcoin. Yeah.

35:04Rod Palmer And, I think that How to just Hey, well, I think I think we need to do like an $800 course on how to be a Bitcoin podcaster. Right. I and I don't think there's anything that precludes you on OnlyFans from OnlyPublishing

35:16Junseth podcast. So if you wanted to, at ERC, like, consult coaching consulting on how to make Bitcoin podcast, You could just subscribe to our OnlyFans, and that's how you could get the RSS feed. So that is a possibility. Yeah. I think OnlyFans is really, like, where you guys need to be. Yeah. Not a lot of Bitcoin content on OnlyFans. They will and they won't punish us for promoting people smoking cigarettes. So

35:41Rod Palmer Yeah. We can bundle in our non KYC

35:43Junseth feet pics that we're selling through. You could.

35:47Junseth You know? Somebody's got a net I got 2,002 Natalie Brunel foot foot foot pick from Elsa Altidore.

35:54Junseth Like, are you guys, like, are you guys, searching the Internet for, like, rare foot picks?

35:58Junseth No. We're not doing we're just we're just connecting. We're just connecting. Oh, you guys are, like, wholesalers. We do we're just people peer to peer. That's good.

36:08Junseth Where can I buy those?

36:10Rod Palmer Just DM me and,

36:13Junseth I'll know, sir. Nice.

36:16Junseth People think she's real pretty. I I think Breedlove is a little prettier, though.

36:22Rod Palmer I I think Breedlove is pretty, but there there's this issue, which is there's not enough women. We I call it Podkoff goggles.

36:33Junseth Yeah.

36:35Richard Greaser Mhmm.

36:36Junseth Yeah. You put on Podkoff goggles. Yeah. And, you know, it might be a It it turns it turns sixes into fourteens.

36:44Junseth Right.

36:46Junseth Yeah. There's not Exactly. Man. There's not a It's binary. It's no. It's it's binary. You either would is or you won't. Zeros and ones. Bitcoin is like prison. You know?

36:56Junseth Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, we come here. We are just a bunch of lonely guys, and You pick a gang. You pick a gang. Yeah. That's true. You're looking at El Salvador or Supermax? I'm part I'm in I'm I'm I'm in the Jewish gang,

37:14Junseth here in Bitcoin. And I don't know what you what are you, Rod?

37:19Junseth I I'm I'm gonna I'm so aspiring to be in the Jewish gang. Yeah. I'm I wanna yeah. That I'm trying to, work up to that.

37:28Rod Palmer Yeah. I'm not Trying to impress them. I'm not Jewish religiously or or Jewish through birth, but I like to think of myself as Jewish because I worked in media for so long. And I I just figured, like, I'm kinda I've kinda become Jewish through osmosis.

37:42Junseth So maybe maybe maybe, you you know, the two newest members of the Jewish gang right here with me right here on the PodCon. Right. Exactly. It's the best of the gangs. It's the Bitcoin acquisition gang is what we call ourselves. So but, yeah, you join Bitcoin. You you you you join a gang, and you just you don't see you don't see any women. They're not here. You know?

38:07Junseth So you gotta go you gotta go places that aren't Bitcoin, like church, or something to meet them. And I think that's probably how you avoid PodCon goggles. And in all honesty, the worst the worst women are the ones that know anything about Bitcoin.

38:25Rod Palmer I I think Lynn Alden's great. It's super hot. She knows a lot about Bitcoin.

38:34Junseth True.

38:34Rod Palmer Yeah. So that might she might be the exception to the rule right there. The accept yeah. Absolutely.

38:40Junseth So Yeah. Yeah. I think I'd rather meet a girl on that. I'd rather read a girl at Sunday school than bit block boom. You know? Yeah. This is this is my bit block boom girlfriend.

38:51Rod Palmer On your your niece's, bar mitzvah.

38:56Junseth So Exactly.

38:58Junseth Yeah. Bot in a bar mitzvah?

39:00Rod Palmer Yeah. Yeah. Bat mitzvah. My bad. So tell so tell me about being Jewish. How's it how what's it like for you to be Jewish in Bitcoin?

39:09Junseth Well, you you see there there's a number of advantages. Like, for example, anytime I wanna get a story published in the media, I just call the Bitcoin Bugle Mhmm. And they'll do it. Nothing I I don't even have to ask any questions or anything. Same with CoinDesk or, any other Bitcoin news sources to get the I get I get whatever I want published.

39:31Junseth And, by virtue of the fact that I am in the Jewish gang, Bitcoin just shows up in my wallets. Mhmm. So it's it's actually neat. You kinda get paid for being

39:43Junseth a certain type of person, but then you gotta be on the lookout because every few years, the world wants to kill you. Mhmm. So you just, you know. Well, it's

39:55Rod Palmer it is be like, being Jewish is kinda like having credentials.

39:58Junseth You know what I mean? Yeah. You're born you're born with credentials, which, you know, that's that's why I work so hard to become Jewish. I just, like, worked really hard

40:08Junseth to join our Right. You think the clients to become a money transmitter license is is is arduous. Try becoming a credentialed Jewish guy. Right.

40:18Junseth Well, just becoming I mean, a Jewish guy. I don't just say credentialed, but just becoming a Jewish guy. Right. Right. So are you a religious Jew or ethnic Jew or you just identify as Jew? I'm a religious Christian who identifies as a Jew for the purpose of Bitcoin acquisition. Does that make sense?

40:35Rod Palmer Yeah. Yeah. So Like, you you relate to having been responsible for killing Jesus, and that's, like, important in your faith in Christianity.

40:46Junseth Well, I relate yes. Correct. Yes. Yeah. I I both did it and believe it happened Mhmm. And that it was ineffective.

40:57Rod Palmer Like, a lot of a lot of, Christians, like, there's an animosity towards the Jews Yeah. For being responsible for killing Jesus. Yeah.

41:08Junseth So you just embrace it. I just embrace it. I I play I I get I'm on both sides.

41:15Rod Palmer So how how long have you been a been a Christian for? My whole life. I was born on a Christian commune. Oh, yeah. What was that like?

41:25Junseth Very Christian. I was when I was a kid, we were we we lived in Brazil. My parents were missionaries, Jesus missionaries, and, they they you know, I was born on the the sister commune in Brazil. And a few years later, we moved back to The United States and lived on The

41:46Junseth United States version of the commune. So

41:48Junseth communes all around, and it was cool. Yeah. I just yeah. I I think I I had a not quite as extreme, but somewhat similar fairy religious background. And I just think that, I think that the Jews, especially when it comes to them, they just have a lower time preference. Like, the Jews are still waiting, and the Christians, they jump the gun on Oh, no. Right. They wanted to do the Christians figured it out.

42:12Junseth I I, you know, like like, I I, I occasionally act as the Shabbos goi for a friend. He, like, will he'll he'll walk to my house, Shabbat and knock on my door at 11:30 at night cause he had to walk, like, four and a half miles, and he'll say, hey, I forgot to turn off my stove. And I'll say, oh,

42:36Junseth give me a sec. I'll get my car. So I drive to his house. He has to walk back, obviously, and I turn off his stove. And then on the way back to to my house as I'm passing him, I stop and I say I I call him over the car and I say, you don't have to do this anymore. The messiah already returned. So, like, this is all, you know, stupid and pointless. But I'll turn off your stove if you need it anytime.

43:08Junseth I think there should be more, Jew ish Bitcoin podcasters and I think there would be more Oh, and one of the things that I appreciate about Jesus is the is they love to complain and I love to complain and Bitcoin podcasting makes it makes it so that you can get paid in Bitcoin

43:29Junseth to complain people will hear, listen to you complain and I think that that like that's unlocked. I think I think more people need to figure out a way to fight because if people will pay to listen to you complain,

43:41Junseth it means that you're fucking complaining about the right things. I'm trying to get bit to claim Tina to do a podcast with me.

43:50Junseth Yeah. For the very end. What's that? Exactly. You what's he doing? Or why why what's his hesitation?

44:02Junseth I he's he's he doesn't think his mother would approve.

44:10Rod Palmer I mean, that's that's a really hard spot to be in. Like, I think we all want our our mothers to approve of our Bitcoin podcast. Yeah. I think so. It it is a some, like, deep, you know, childhood trauma there. If your if your mom doesn't accept your your Bitcoin podcast, it's kinda like a a deep rejection of,

44:32Junseth what your mom ever listened to this? What sorry. What was that? Has your mother ever listened to the Podconf podcast?

44:43Rod Palmer No. She's not because she doesn't approve of it at all. And I can't imagine that she would.

44:51Junseth Well, that's My mom my mom would not listen to it, but even if she did, she would not know at all what was going on and she like, so she wouldn't be like, she wouldn't be offended. She would just, tell me that she like, what she does with everything. I I love you, but that doesn't make any sense to me. I'm like, alright.

45:13Rod Palmer Yep. I mean, one of one of the major points of conflict the first words you said to you when you were born.

45:20Junseth They wouldn't they wouldn't surprise me. Right.

45:23Rod Palmer One of one of my parents, you know, growing up, my parents had a major point of conflict, and it was on their philosophy around cigarettes. Right? So, like, my father's side of the family believed in starting kids young. And he started a kid and and I I don't think this way. I think you should wait a little bit longer, to start your kids smoking cigarettes like, in my father's family, they'd start them around,

45:48Rod Palmer six years old. And

45:50Junseth Is that is that too young for you or do do you think, like, six is a good, a good age for that?

45:57Rod Palmer Well, I I think it worked out well for me, but I I I personally believe you should wait till they're eight.

46:03Junseth You should wait till they're a little bit more developed. I I saw I saw Rob's put us today about his said his the first time his children asked him at the dinner table, you know, what is the government? And I told Rob in Telegram, I said, that I think is the age you start your kids smoking cigarettes. Once your kids start asking questions about the government, they're mature enough to smoke cigarettes.

46:26Rod Palmer Mhmm. Yeah. Like, my my father died of of, of lung cancer when he was pretty young. And, so my mom doesn't like cigarettes. Right?

46:41Junseth And, Women never understand.

46:43Rod Palmer They never I know. I try to explain this to her all the time is, you know, that there he didn't die from cigarettes. He died from lack of Jack Crew's podcast.

46:59Junseth You know what? You're right. And he did methylene blue. No. If he had if he had smoked cigarettes I mean, like, I I I I I can't say that Jack has said this definitively, but I've heard, something similar to this. Two things. Number one, if you sun your balls

47:18Junseth at least forty minutes a morning, that's worth one cigarette that cleans up all of the toxins. So maybe to get, like, the ball sunning for the day, you'd wanna do forty minutes and then, like, maybe another twenty minutes so that you get your, like, normal sunning and then you delete the cigarette from your lungs. And then I think what you do is you just you like, maybe PodCon should have ball sunning pants where throughout the day, you could just kind of, like, wherever you are, like, maybe in the park, you just kind of lift it up and it just

47:47Junseth exposes your balls to more UV so you can smoke, you know, slowly one cigarette at a time and, get a good get, you know, get on your way to the forty minutes of deleting the the cigarette you just smoked. Mhmm.

48:03Junseth That one. Well, I I think that would be

48:08Junseth Richard, is that is that, like, the solution to most of the world's problems, podcasts? Is that Bitcoin podcast. Specific was Jack Cruz a Bitcoin podcast?

48:19Junseth Yeah. I would argue he's a Bitcoin podcast. Alright. Yeah. Jack Cruz is, he's like a I don't know. He's like a young boomer, but he's just like always posting videos in a pool with a shirt off and El Salvador, and he's talking, you know, about, you know it's kinda like the the counterculture medical advice.

48:39Junseth I didn't believe many of Jack Crews's claims, and, so one day I was hanging out with Jack Dorsey, my best friend, and, and I said, Jack, mister Dorsey. I didn't say mister Dorsey because that's not what you say to your friend. I said, Jack. Hey, Jack.

48:56Junseth Do you know Jack Crews? And Jack Dorsey looked at me and he goes, yeah. Of course. Great guy. Love him. Why? And at that moment, I knew that basically everything Jack Crews says is true. So

49:11Junseth There you go. Interesting. It's like

49:15Junseth a just needed that confirmation.

49:18Rod Palmer Well, he knows that he knows how to dial into things from first principles because he's a Bitcoin podcaster. And this is what the Fiat podcasters don't understand. They they don't hit things from first principles. Like, I look at like a Joe Rogan,

49:33Junseth for example. Is Joe Rogan a Fiat podcaster?

49:36Rod Palmer Oh, yeah. Okay. Alright. And when's the last time you had a Bitcoiner on?

49:41Junseth Probably Antonopoulos. Is is Antonopoulos a Bitcoiner? Or is he more of an eath etherhead?

49:46Junseth I don't know. He was a Bitcoiner at the time. He was too it was too early for ease for him to have that much conviction back then. And he loved ease. But no, it's the people ask about the what's the forty hours of Bitcoin podcast per week? Like, we explain this on every podcast, but people still ask us, what does it mean? And it's like, why would you listen to forty hours per week? And it's the answer is simple. It's because I I value my time. And

50:18Junseth there's hours and hours of the day stranded hours of, of time that, I could be monetizing or listening to Bitcoin podcasts, not today, but it someday will pay off in the future.

50:33Junseth And, until you come out, until you got something, an hour of my time that's more valuable than listen to a Bitcoin podcast, I'm gonna choose the Bitcoin podcast.

50:43Junseth Yeah. I mean Have you have you guys considered making the pod con podcast forty hours long?

50:51Rod Palmer I was thinking about this, actually. I was thinking about doing a a forty hour straight livestream in Vegas.

50:58Junseth Like, if you guys if you did a But you need entropy. You do need entropy.

51:03Junseth You do need entropy. You can't just do macro. You're right. You can't just do bugle. You gotta do paranoid schizophrenic privacy,

51:13Junseth Bobcast. You gotta do I heard you talking to to Mike Brock about that.

51:18Rod Palmer Yeah. That was Richard. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What'd you think about that? That was an interesting, one of the more interesting conversations I've ever had. Yeah. That I just I enjoyed,

51:28Junseth I I I enjoyed the many times that you guys talked past each other.

51:35Junseth Oh, yeah. Well, Mike Brock was a Jack Dorsey guy. So, again, that's how you know. He was right about everything. My favorite my favorite thing was when he said,

51:44Junseth he he said, this is when, you know, people like me, philosophers like me, I'd call eschatology. And I was he said that about, he said that about hyperbitcoinization.

51:58Junseth And I thought to myself, that's not eschatology. Someone needs to fix this this man's thinking. Bitcoiners don't believe the world ends at hyperbitcoinization. That's when the world begins.

52:10Rod Palmer Mhmm.

52:11Junseth So what he's really talking about is the study of the beginning, not of the end. And I don't know what that study is called But it's not eschatology

52:22Rod Palmer Well, I mean, this is the point that I made of why he challenged me to debate so I I was on twitter and I was, letting him know that he needs to sit down. He doesn't have a valid opinion. He doesn't listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast a week. So he needs to shut up, sit down, go do his homework, and then circle back around and and and see if his Yeah. And the proof of work before he he he starts yapping. That's true.

52:50Junseth And I think the I think the most valuable takeaway from that whole debacle is that Orange sells were kinda like Mike Propp in any situation where they're trying to orange bill people and most of those people are like Richard and you've got you're going into this orange billing situation and you're

53:10Junseth you're just talking about how smart you are, how many fucking experts agree with the, you know, Bitcoin mining is the remote dynamically sound. This money is programmed to go up forever. It can't go down. It's a black hole that's tubing everything and you're explaining to them and you're appealing to authority. It's like Robert Breedlove. You gotta listen to Seate Seiler series of Robert Breedlove. You're gonna learn about thermodynamics. You're gonna go to Lin Alden. You're gonna learn about the history of hard money, and you're just giving them, like, all these philosophers that you're regurgitating, and you're using that to like, try to impress them about how smart you are.

53:44Junseth They should just do whatever you're doing beyond your, in your ideology. And Richard's just like all this sounds ridiculous to me. Do you even fucking listen to Bitcoin podcast? Because if you did, you would know everything you just said is bullshit and, you know, one on one and it was just hilarious, but that's what the orange shells are dealing with. They're like the Mike Brock of a situation

54:07Junseth that they're trying to orange deal and it's just they're embarrassing themselves.

54:10Junseth Do you when you say forty hours of pod are they modern? You have to listen to, like, current podcasts or can you listen to old stuff?

54:17Junseth Old stuff's fine. Oh, okay. Interesting. Do both. Yeah. As long as as long as it's been built on the the longest chain, if it forked off and became a Bitcoin Cash podcast, no. But if it was part of the main chain back in the day listen to, like,

54:33Junseth Dan,

54:38Junseth Crueiro.

54:41Junseth The Nakamoto Institute guy. Crenshaw. Dan Crenshaw.

54:49Junseth They kept Crenshaw us, though. Like, the Navy Seal army dude with one eye in Congress.

54:55Junseth Daniel Cremun, who became a Bitcoin cashier. Obsessed. Dan.

55:07Junseth Dan. Dan. That's it. That's it. Krawishes. Daniel Krawishes. Daniel Krawishes. With Polish? Krawitz. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So his bod his podcast

55:21Junseth I mean, if it was before the fork, but you have to discount any, like, you know, segwit any segwit, stuff he's gonna be he's gonna be wrong on.

55:34Junseth That's great. Okay. So so any any podcast, old, new. So there's a lot of there's a lot of content out there. Mhmm. Oh, yeah. Yeah. For sure. But not enough. Yeah. Right. I mean, you you you got five years of podcasts minimum at forty hours. In 2017

55:51Junseth or '16. Yeah. If you were trying to listen to forty hours per week, would that how easy how hard would that be to find the content?

55:59Junseth Forty hours twenty seventeen. You could have done it. Yeah. It would've it wouldn't have been impossible. But I I I wouldn't have called them all Bitcoin podcasts because it was it was all ridiculousness. Right? Like, we had, all the people doing provenance chains and, you know,

56:18Junseth fucking medical records on the blockchain.

56:23Junseth We have Bitcoin podcast now that they're kind of like On the block of the block. Monero, and we can pair them on the blockchain.

56:33Junseth Yeah. You know, Monero gets a pass in some ways.

56:38Junseth I agree. I don't know why, but they do. It's it's obvious that they do. Tether gets a pass. I mean, obviously, Tether gets a pass. Well, Tether gets a pass because it's just a company. You know?

56:47Junseth Monero gets a pass because, we like fluffy pony. Like, fluffy pony, a well loved Bitcoiner. So, you know, because we like fluffy pony, Manero gets a pass.

57:04Junseth Then it's not a pre mined shit coin.

57:06Junseth What's that? Yeah. It it isn't a pre mined. It's been around a while. It it's a post mined shit coin, and it's, you know,

57:16Junseth it just like I said, it just it gets a pass because we like, we like It's not all too long for you to pump and dump on people.

57:22Junseth Yeah. Right. We all we like Ricardo. And, so, you know, in order to keep him around, we, we we pass it. We're like, whatever. Like, no one's, you know, no one's getting hurt by this one.

57:36Junseth What do you think what do you think is gonna be, like, the ultimate, culmination of the meme coins? Like, we've talked about how at this point it's not official but they're replacing social security everybody's going to be issued a meme coin at birth and you're just going to have to hoke that thing fucking you catch the liquidity at the right time and sell out because that's your only chance of retiring And do you think that this is sustainable? Because this is another question of is Well, that that model is 100%

58:05Junseth sustainable. Absolutely. That is Is the demand infinite? Yeah. For meme coins? Mhmm. Well, it's what we call them today as meme coins and is what they'll be called two years from now.

58:17Junseth I mean, the thing is, like, there is a there is a a memilarity, if you will. Right? All memes collapse to Pepe.

58:29Junseth So, you know, I don't know. I don't know when that happens, or how it happens, but they all do. They all collapse to Pepe. And and so, you know, we can run these memes as long as we want, but they will eventually all

58:42Junseth all fall into the same hole. If if it's not if it's not that day, you know, on Bitcoin, it's probably not it's probably going to zero.

58:52Junseth Well, it's it's yeah. Definitely. Over the long term, it's not a short it's not a long term hold. None of them are. Not like MSTR.

59:03Junseth But there's, like, when did you finally give up? Because there's always people that could make a little money off a little a little a good tweet because my role answer's always the same at a dollar.

59:17Junseth Right? I mean, it's always always a dollar.

59:21Junseth That's true.

59:23Junseth Yeah. It's all coins are going to a dollar. Doge is going to a dollar. Ripple's going to a dollar.

59:33Junseth If things keep bad enough, safe mood could go back to a dollar. Safe mood could go back to a dollar again. Yeah.

59:40Junseth China and HEXO. This could be the dollar. Where where's HEX at now? Hex is going to a dollar.

59:47Junseth People would be so pissed. Richard, if he bought more rolexes with that fucking pump, people would lose their minds. Platator would be infuriated

59:56Junseth with that. Is is, is is Richard still rich?

1:00:01Junseth He he had to walk a little bit. Right? He he he they dropped all his charges, so he probably had to pay taxes for that.

1:00:10Rod Palmer Nice. I mean, he's he's gotta be still rich because he never had had to hire Jewish lawyers.

1:00:16Junseth That's true. That's what I was gonna say earlier about do you get a discount on Jewish lawyers because those are expensive.

1:00:24Junseth Do oh, do I get a discount on Jewish lawyers? Mhmm.

1:00:28Junseth No. No. They're about, like, a promo code? Bro,

1:00:32Junseth you you don't you you don't give your fellow Jews discounts. You give them legs up. It's different. And for your

1:00:42Junseth That's that's a big perk.

1:00:44Junseth It is a perk. But, yeah, you don't get Especially, it's elevates great. That that would undercut the whole business. That's so stupid.

1:00:55Junseth I have a lot to learn there. Yeah.

1:00:58Junseth A lot. You sound like an antisemite.

1:01:03Junseth No. No. No. Just I just think that they are the most efficient, so I might I might as well grow kosher. That's because that's gonna be the best way to get out. It's the most rational. I mean, you you have to you have to work with the Jews. It's just something I'm not following. Yeah. I'm not crossing the Jews. Hell no. The Jews the Jews are here to stay.

1:01:24Rod Palmer They're not going away. You gotta work with them. You gotta accept them. And the trade offs make sense to you. It's not like you're just like dealing with somebody that's like offering no value to the world. Jews offer a tremendous amount of value in the world. If you want good movies,

1:01:39Richard Greaser if you need the Jews, yeah.

1:01:41Junseth I'll pay my lawyer. I'll pay my accountant as soon as they fucking do a good job. Yeah. You want good rap?

1:01:46Junseth You know what I mean?

1:01:48Junseth Right. Who who I want good movies. I I want I wish Harvey wants to he could make good movies again. There'd be hot chicks in movies again. You want Taylor Swift

1:01:56Rod Palmer music? Who are your favorite Jewish rappers? Or you're just saying on the production side? What do you want my favorite to Eminem?

1:02:05Junseth Doctor Dre. Junior. Doctor Dre. Absolutely. Yeah. Justin Bieber. Oh, I I I don't know why I decided I needed five. Kanye for a while. Kanye yeah. Kanye for a while. That's true. But I think he's left the faith.

1:02:26Junseth Started to look that way. Yeah.

1:02:28Junseth It's not looking good for him in any sort of faith. So, you know

1:02:37Junseth Maybe if Nazi maybe he'll do, like, a a favor and finally make the not I mean, the Nazi symbol is or the Nazi thing is cringe, but then it became so funny much funny just how much it triggered people. So somebody's gotta finally retire it and kill it. Maybe Kanye will be so annoying day. It'll just never come back. The funny thing about Kanye

1:02:58Junseth is, you know, he says these things that are, you know, anti Semitic, and I think it's funny that people care. I can't I what, like, what damage is Kanye gonna do?

1:03:12Junseth Kanye doesn't agree with the way we run our record label. Oh, no.

1:03:16Junseth Right. Oh, no.

1:03:19Junseth Neither does anybody at fucking

1:03:22Rod Palmer anybody in the you know, on the campus is anybody. Nobody agrees. Everybody's ex bed. I mean, he makes Netanyahu look like a rational human being. It's probably, like, one of the greatest things for the state of Israel that's ever happened.

1:03:37Junseth Where where do you guys stand on the Gaza thing?

1:03:41Junseth I'm probably gonna be nowhere good to stand there. It's fucked up. It's fucked up. Well, Trump Trump's gonna fix it. You fix or strain your ankle. Wouldn't stand anywhere near there.

1:03:50Rod Palmer David Bailey. I'm excited for the for Bitcoin 2026 happening in Gaza. That's gonna be interesting.

1:03:58Junseth That's great.

1:03:60Junseth I yeah. I don't know enough about Gaza. I don't pay enough attention to really say, but what I from what I do know, if if Donald Trump and David Bailey think that Bitcoin could fix Gaza, at this point, I'm willing to let them try because we everything else we've tried has failed. So maybe Bitcoin can do it.

1:04:22Junseth It works for El Salvador. Why couldn't it work for Gaza? Why not why not make Bukele

1:04:28Junseth This is gonna build really good prisons.

1:04:30Junseth Yeah. Just keep they need to what they need to do, they need to get a Bitcoin miner in there. They need to start, stabilizing the grid. And once they stabilize the grid, they can build supermax prisons, throw all the bad actors in there, and then let Bitcoin podcasters come there on vacation and set up Bitcoin podcasts. And, like, another Bitcoin beach, circular economies and kick start

1:04:57Junseth that area.

1:04:60Rod Palmer I think my biggest frustration with Gaza over the last year is, all these people, they're getting bombed. Yeah. They're, they don't have any food. They're they're going hungry, and there's all these these people that are are hopping in there trying to help them fundraise,

1:05:18Rod Palmer but they're using shit coins. They're not Bitcoin only.

1:05:23Junseth So you're using Do do you think that's why they're getting bombed?

1:05:29Rod Palmer No. I mean, I I I think that the Israeli intelligence uses shitcoins. I I think they were, big proponents of Zcash, and they, they use Monero.

1:05:43Rod Palmer Like, I I don't think

1:05:45Junseth the Israelis really care about their them shitcoin in them. And I think that and I think the CIA controls all the Monero nodes. I mean, that's why all those federal buildings, they just been sitting empty with all these PCs running all day. This has been fucking Monero mining.

1:06:00Junseth That makes sense. That makes sense. That's the no one else is mining it.

1:06:07Junseth Right. And who has access to all these free computers?

1:06:10Junseth Right.

1:06:11Richard Greaser Right.

1:06:12Rod Palmer I don't know. The the Gaza thing is interesting. It's, it's, it's just I I feel like this is just how war is, you know, where the aggressor that has more missiles, you know, always creates damage and, you know, kinda comes off as the bad guy, but,

1:06:32Rod Palmer you know,

1:06:34Junseth it's, In that situation, whoever has the most missiles, it had their opinion is right?

1:06:39Rod Palmer Yeah. And it's just one of the things with fiat money is, like, whoever has the best money printers has the most missiles. You know what I mean?

1:06:48Junseth That makes sense. Also, the the Cantillon effect is strong with them. Right? Whoever has whoever's closest to the money printer has the most missiles. Right. I think that's a Right there. Tried and true financial,

1:07:05Junseth you know, principle. Mhmm.

1:07:10Rod Palmer What what are your thoughts on the Houthis?

1:07:12Junseth They're pretty interesting crew. I thought they were I thought they were, Star Wars characters.

1:07:18Junseth In a lot of ways, they are, honey. I didn't like that. They made they made me think of the Ewoks. Yeah. That's not the hoothies.

1:07:24Junseth Like, I just thought that, like, it was like a group of people that Anakin encountered or something like that or, like, the, the imperial soldiers, like, you know, encountered, and they're like, woah. The Houthis. You know? It sounds like a bunch of aliens. Like the Wookies. Like the Wookies. Exactly. The Houthis and the Wookies. The the great the great battle of the Houthis and the Wookies. Yeah. Yeah. No. I, I don't have any thoughts on them. They sound they sound like, they sound like mud people. You know what I mean?

1:07:58Rod Palmer But they They're they're running some some interesting, warfare techniques where they're able to shoot these, like, really cheap remedial missiles to get shot down by very expensive, sophisticated missiles and Why does that sound too hard? Well, it's a very it's a very creative,

1:08:22Rod Palmer way of warfare. It's more economic than kinetic, even though it's kinetic.

1:08:27Junseth Yeah. But that runs out because they don't have any money. Like, I I think I think that you can make the the country with the expensive missiles can make a lot more expensive missiles than the Houthis can make cheap missiles.

1:08:40Rod Palmer You know what I mean? Unless they have another country that's like a a benefactor

1:08:44Junseth for them. And of course they don't have that.

1:08:48Junseth Wait. Yeah. They're just they're just one of many who they're not gonna win. They're gonna get fucking obliterated, but then there's just another Houthi, there's just another Houthi and then there's another Houthi over here and like, they're not the Houthis, but it's what's the thing in they got stuff in Somalia, they got stuff in Africa, they can always find some more Houthis. The Houthis were just, the Houthis were just like, listen. We the government's making us spend this money at the Pentagon. We gotta buy shit to we can't store it. We gotta blow something up. We've gotta bomb something. This is how we keep the liquidity of the supply chain going. If, like, if liquidity dries up and there's not missiles going across borders, you we just gotta do something so they have to bomb somebody. And that's the Houthis right now. Am I wrong? Don't we make all the missiles and bombs here?

1:09:36Junseth Well, that's the problem. They're not buying ours.

1:09:38Junseth Who are they buying? Are they all Iranian or something? Is it It's like people it's

1:09:44Junseth they've got, like, the bid x fucking decentralized missile market. Is that what's going on? Exactly. They've got materials. They just put some bamboo, and they put some fucking shit in a bamboo, and they get some rocket fuel, and they it it goes where it has to go. They're they're going on DefCAD, and they're downloading the files, and they're they're printing it.

1:10:05Junseth Is that a little like a fun resource there where the Houthis

1:10:09Junseth live? I know. Just they do was on on on sale at the Home Depot in fucking Yemen. You know? That makes sense. We could probably blame, Cody Wilson for the Houthis. It's probably Cody's fault. And the Houthis are on YouTube like crazy, so they probably got tutorials. It's like, hey, this is how you set up your fucking own hypersonic missile. You just have to get this and this. Yeah. All you do is you go your backyard and you point it and you go. And they got like a BTC sessions, hadithi guy doing do your, do it yourself missiles tutorials. That makes sense. It's awesome. Yeah.

1:10:42Rod Palmer The Arabic version of BTC sessions. I mean, that's

1:10:46Junseth Why shouldn't they have these YouTube tutorials on on attack and, international shipping?

1:10:53Junseth Right.

1:10:54Junseth We can have you know, they have access to it. They're fucking they know how to make content. That's probably in demand.

1:10:60Rod Palmer Do you think they have, inventory tracking of their missiles on the blockchain? Guarantee that it was created by IBM.

1:11:07Junseth Walmart would have a fork. Why wouldn't they have it for missiles and, inventory?

1:11:14Rod Palmer They know how to force the

1:11:17Junseth or or what are the calls again? Is if are the Houthis allowed to purchase MicroStrategy,

1:11:23Junseth senior convertible notes and put it in their treasury? I think they can if they have a $100,000.

1:11:30Junseth If they have a bank in Qatar, they could do it. Yeah.

1:11:33Junseth I don't think that there's, like, a lot of, restrictions on those things.

1:11:38Junseth So they they these might be MSTR degens for all we know. Do you think they are creatively diluting,

1:11:45Junseth the shareholders by buying?

1:11:51Junseth The Hilties, I don't know if they I don't know if they know how to do that.

1:11:56Junseth That'd be that'd be how to bankrupt all all the Bitcoiners.

1:12:01Junseth The CIA's gotta get demand for treasuries, so they gotta get they gotta get Tether into Africa. They gotta get Tether into more parts of, just a global South in general. They gotta get meme coins there. They gotta run pump and dumps. They've gotta get more people buying, you know, US treasuries or derivatives that create demand for treasuries.

1:12:24Junseth Interesting. So you you're you think the CIA needs to create more pumps and dumps

1:12:29Junseth all over the world? Right. They've got they've got to create instead of circular economies, they they're trying to create circular pump and dumps. They're going into places like South Africa, places with, like, on the you know, not the greatest financial regulation. And it's like, alright. How do we get these people to buy treasuries? We'll get we'll get them excited in meme coins. We'll pick some meme if it's local that makes sense to them, and we'll pump the meme coin.

1:12:53Junseth They'll ape into it. They'll need and they'll wanna get out. The smart ones will. The lucky ones are gonna get a tether. Tether. And they'll get they'll get a tether. Right? Yeah. Wow. You have made yeah. Exactly. Meme coins are a means to convert people to Tether. Right. And then once they once they get into this cycle and, like, they're introduced into their communities, they'll search for podcasts. And they will start listening

1:13:21Junseth to to podcasts, and that will they will start to make their use their time more efficiently. They'll be listening to more podcasts, and it will allow them to stack, you know, more tethers, more meme points. It'll it'll slowly build the economy up or at least provide liquidity, for everybody, in The US market.

1:13:42Junseth I see that logic. That makes sense, actually.

1:13:45Junseth They,

1:13:46Junseth Just a hunt. That's just that's just the buy buy again. Well, that makes sense. Like, the CIA is doing a lot of fucked up stuff. Right? Like, so that would be, like that one at least would be, effective because once they start listening to the podcasts, then they have the means, to be orange pilled.

1:14:03Junseth Right. Right. Then you could and you could do coups. You could do all kinds of stuff without having this. It's Bitcoin does fix war. Right? Like, it's the coup just happens through the meme coins and the destabilization of whoever has the most tether wins. And then you don't even need the missiles.

1:14:21Junseth That's amazing.

1:14:22Rod Palmer Well, this is kind of a fun fact. It's it's a growth hack for your podcast, and not a lot of people know this. We we talk about it pretty frequently, but, like, you wanna you wanna grow your subscriber list, your downloads to your podcast to get more money from your hardware wallet, sponsor. Makes sense. You just mention every intelligence agency out there, and then they all start listening to you.

1:14:47Junseth They have to it's required if you mention an agency by name. Somebody has to be on the list of the whole episode. Have you gone through the list

1:14:55Junseth of agencies? Because there are, like, thousands of them. Things you never heard of.

1:15:00Rod Palmer We haven't, but we should. We should go through that. I think, honestly,

1:15:04Junseth we shouldn't we shouldn't name we don't have to even name them in Pius. We just list them in the meta tags in the RSS feed because they're just monitoring it automatically. And then they they see their, you know, see their agency mentioned, and then they gotta assign an agent to to listen. And that's an opportunity to orange pill somebody in the teach day. It's like, hey. Make them listen to your podcast. Do you think Ben Shapiro

1:15:26Junseth is, like, all of these agencies outsourced person to listen to these podcasts, maybe?

1:15:34Rod Palmer I maybe I'm the politics side, but I don't think Ben listens to

1:15:39Junseth 40 HPW, unfortunately. Well, I'm sure that's true.

1:15:44Rod Palmer Maybe Charlie Kerr might. Charlie Kerr. So His next question. I had a debate with Rod. I don't I don't think we ever talked about this on the show, but we were discussing Ben Shapiro's sister. And I'm of the opinion that, like, your average IDF, chick is hotter than her. Mhmm. But Rod thinks Ben Shapiro's sister's way hotter than your average IDF chick.

1:16:10Richard Greaser What do you think?

1:16:11Junseth I think that I don't know. I think that Rod thinks that Ben Shapiro in drag is a handsome woman is what I think. And I think that's a valid a valid thing for a rather thing. I don't you know, to each his own.

1:16:27Junseth I mean, I wanted to Just to clarify that that disagreement was not that I think she's hotter. I just everything's about trade offs. And for many aero people, they are willing to give up everything else for privacy. And with the choice here, I'm willing to make all the trios for those huge tits. I love those huge tits, and I don't care

1:16:52Junseth what what what you anybody thinks about what's attached to the rest of her. I love I'm a tit guy.

1:16:58Rod Palmer I'm I'm just not a tit guy. I'm an I'm a face and ass guy, and

1:17:02Junseth that's my thing. Do you think do you think there's a point where they get too big?

1:17:10Junseth You're asking me or Rod? Rod. For me. Yeah. Ron or Randall? I don't date. But I don't I think it's, it's a factor. That is a factor. So depending on who you are in your

1:17:22Junseth how big?

1:17:25Junseth For some people, it's it's it's double d. For some people, it's the stuff that they haven't even they don't you can't you have to go to, like, the big dogs just for the bra. Like, the big dog store at the outlet Mall. It's the only place they can find your bra size. Because the the big dog store? Yeah. Like the big milkers. Like, it's like a big dog store, but it's like for girls with such big milkers, like, they can't get anything at JCPenney. They can't get anything on Amazon that is that has any quality. They when they're on their way to, you know, what's that play,

1:17:59Junseth Branson, Missouri or they're on their way to Gatlinburg, they could stop at an outlet mall, go into Big Milkers and sock up on their bras.

1:18:07Junseth Big Milkers being a store?

1:18:09Junseth Yeah. That's the name of the store. Big Milkers. I

1:18:13Rod Palmer think I think they carry that brand at, Buc ee's in Texas. Yeah. You you can get it there at

1:18:21Junseth Waco, Texas. Busey's goat, my fucking big milkers brand. But that's all I'm saying is for some people, that's too much. But for some people I mean, for some people, it's it's hard to get laid. You tell a girl that has a cups that you think b's are too big. You know, that might it'd be she might throw you a bone.

1:18:43Junseth No. I think you wanna throw her a bone.

1:18:47Junseth Full again. Yeah. I was talking metaphorically or talking physically.

1:18:52Rod Palmer That's some thermodynamically

1:18:54Junseth sound alpha dating advice right there. Never thought about that. So you okay. So you go to, like, a woman who's got, like, quadruple z's, and you're like, I think quadruple y's are too small.

1:19:08Junseth Well and you get to you get to a girl with quadruple z's. It's like, if you've got the bravado, if you've if you smoke enough cigarettes and you have enough self assurance that you can handle double z tits Yeah. Like, you can't think. It's like a big dick energy. It's like you go up to girl like that. You don't have to you don't have there's not too many people that could be her suitor that that could handle her.

1:19:29Junseth But The girl like that would be a tall guy, or does she want a guy with tits as big as hers?

1:19:35Junseth That once that that depends and, you know, depends on what's legal and that state.

1:19:39Junseth Yeah. That's right.

1:19:42Junseth In Thailand, all bets are off.

1:19:44Junseth Yeah. And I understand it. I'm not a I'm not a big Milkers guy. I'm I'm more on Richard's side, but I understand, Rod, where where you're coming from. Mhmm. I think that Richard lacked the empathy to understand, but I I get you.

1:19:59Junseth I think in most cases that would probably be correct, Kittle.

1:20:03Rod Palmer I don't know, I've just never been into big tits. I find it to be a distraction.

1:20:07Junseth Well, I think that's the point though.

1:20:10Junseth Some people don't want to be distracted when they're banging their lights, some people do. And big tits are a good distraction. You can think of Sydney Sweeney.

1:20:23Junseth Yeah. I think I think Rod's in it for the distraction, Richard.

1:20:29Rod Palmer Yeah. It makes sense. What what are your thoughts on, listening to Bitcoin podcast when you're having sex?

1:20:41Junseth It well, it depends. I think it depends on the intro music. Sometimes if the intro music sucks, it can kill the mood. But, like, what I need is a good fourteen or fifteen second intro so that I can, like, so that I can finish and get to listening. You know what I mean?

1:21:01Richard Greaser Mhmm.

1:21:02Junseth So some some podcasts have too short of intros, and some have too long, and some just like, the music is kind of a mood killer. So, but if I can get a good fourteen or fifteen second intro, with good music, like, I I'm generally pretty happy.

1:21:19Junseth Yeah. Are you are you a big value for value guy in bed if you, you know, if you got if you get head, do you give?

1:21:28Junseth No. I've never given head. You know? I'm not no. Really. Like, I'm more of a I'm more I'm more of a completionist, you know, in both things like collecting and in in sex. It's kind of a my tactic has always been to sort of jackhammer,

1:21:48Junseth the fuck out of the person, for, like, a short period.

1:21:52Junseth Yeah. Fortunately,

1:21:53Junseth for fifteen seconds, and then just kinda roll over and and do the next thing. You know?

1:22:00Rod Palmer Smoke your cigarette.

1:22:02Junseth Smoke a cigarette. Listen to some podcasts.

1:22:04Richard Greaser Yeah.

1:22:06Junseth But listening to Bitcoin podcast, as somebody who's been in the Bitcoin podcast game and listened to so and made so many Bitcoin podcasts. Do you still listen to them?

1:22:19Junseth You are you ever gonna stop do you think you'll ever stop listening to Bitcoin podcasts? You wanna you wanna know the truth? I never really listened to any Bitcoin podcasts ever, not, like, not even my even my Volatility going on Bitcoin podcast. Yeah. Sometimes I go on them. I I I just, you know, I believe strongly that other people should listen to them. I think you guys have really hit on something here.

1:22:45Junseth But but not me because, I you know, like, if if you're, like, a person who who just, like, I don't know, is a reservoir for vitamin k or something like that. You just don't you don't need to take the vitamin.

1:23:02Junseth That's me. That's like I am I'm a reservoir for Bitcoin. I don't need I don't need any more, entropic knowledge, you know, to become more Bitcoin y, but most do.

1:23:19Junseth How do how do you It seems like What's that? What's that? I was just gonna say, it seems like if you think that, there is somebody thinks I I I really like Bitcoin. I like I'm really secure in it, but I feel like if I don't listen to Bitcoin podcast, I'm gonna miss out or that I

1:23:40Junseth can't hang. But it's like you go on Bitcoin podcast, you see people seem to, you seem to know you seem to just be able to feel out the environment and the vibe even though you don't listen. And that's that's just like you can be in Bitcoin without fucking actually listening to the podcast. Yeah. I well, I exude Bitcoin. It's the only thing I think about. So whereas other people need to, like,

1:24:03Junseth the mental the mental enter their mental energy needs to go toward the the podcast. I need to sit down and they really need I understand, like, they need to soak in it. I'm I'm sort of like Buddha under the Banyan tree, and I have become Bitcoin podcast,

1:24:20Junseth if you know what I mean. I am it exudes it exudes through me. I I am the embodiment of podcasting in Bitcoin itself.

1:24:31Junseth People meet you and it, like, verifies the they validates Bitcoin podcasts. Like, I knew that this this energy existed and they see it in you. Exactly. They're like, I knew I needed to listen to more Bitcoin podcasts. Like I need to listen to Bitcoin podcast just so I could talk to this guy. That's right. That tends to be What does it smell like when it's coming out of your pores?

1:24:54Junseth Well, my wife says it smells a little bit it smells similar to when I go to Starbucks and get the latte. Because it like, they don't have Are you lactose intolerant? Extremely. Yeah. They don't have, like, they don't have the lactate that they put in there. They use straight up milk, like, full on cow titty milk. And

1:25:18Junseth so, like, as, like, Bitcoin podcast for raw milk. I I don't think that I don't think that you can at Starbucks. I mean, I think you can.

1:25:28Junseth I just don't think they'll give it to you. No. I just haven't any they should. Like, I you know, one day RFK, hopefully, will get this done.

1:25:36Junseth Well, the where would they buy it? From the Amish? Yes.

1:25:41Rod Palmer Well, I mean, the the the that's, like, one of the examples of what the world looks like when Bitcoin fixes everything is you got raw milk at Starbucks. It's everywhere.

1:25:50Junseth Yeah. But then, like, why why would you need it started when you got it in your fridge?

1:25:55Junseth What's my year at Starbucks?

1:25:57Rod Palmer You can make coffee at home. It's convenient. I don't need Starbucks nowadays. But you know, why does Starbucks exist? It's because women exist. Women like Starbucks. That's trash. As long as women exist, Starbucks will exist. That's how they keep it.

1:26:18Junseth That's true. That's sound. That's sound really true.

1:26:24Rod Palmer So, Junseth, so it I mean, one of the things I think one of your note most notable accomplishments ever was that you created a new dance move.

1:26:33Junseth Did I? Yeah.

1:26:36Rod Palmer Called the blockchain.

1:26:38Junseth Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Of course. Yeah. I didn't even know I did that. It was, effortless. Do you wanna show it to me, Rod? The the have you been practicing it?

1:26:51Rod Palmer I've been practicing it.

1:26:53Junseth Richard, why don't you show it?

1:26:55Rod Palmer Unfortunately, I don't have a camera on my typewriter, or I would. Are you going to Vegas?

1:27:02Junseth No. I No. I'm I'm a sedent like, I'm I'm I'm a sedentary, Waffle House observer. Mhmm. I only go I only go places where there's a nearby Waffle House, number 1. Number two, I I

1:27:18Junseth I've adopted a new political philosophy called, steampunk glutism. Mhmm. And I just I want to be surrounded mostly by, like, gas propelled machines at all times and,

1:27:35Junseth and and and, like, be, like, silent in my worship of steampunkery. Mhmm. And I just don't think I can do that in Vegas. Yeah. There's too many, like, electronic machines and stuff I like. Like, if like, I want gas powered lights, gas powered stoves, gas powered refrigerators,

1:27:56Junseth just everything, you know, gas powered. So I've been avoiding conferences of late for that reason.

1:28:08Rod Palmer But isn't steampunk about being steam powered, not necessarily gas powered? Yeah. That's what I mean.

1:28:15Junseth Yeah. It's hard to get steam in a desert. That's true. Yeah.

1:28:20Junseth No. There's not gonna be a lot of steam in Vegas. They're like coal. Coal is fine. I mean, I I feel like gas fits the bill. You know what I mean? Mhmm. Is it like you're right. But what? Gas, steam, coal, you know, whatever.

1:28:31Junseth Well, gas is the new steam pump. It's gonna be people using it. That's gonna be like you're gonna be able to to basically free your own l like liquid LNG, so you could just store it and have a liquid LNG on the kettle. Just everywhere. It'll be yeah. It'll be it's more yeah. It's steam. They're gonna need all that for the nuclear the nuclear energy plants for the AI. Like, you're gonna have to get your own gas.

1:28:56Junseth That's right. As like, you'll have to go you'll have to go start paying for oil rights and pulling out of the ground. Do you think it's more efficient to mine LNG or buy it?

1:29:08Junseth It's trying to solve. That's what that's what's great about it. Sometimes it's negative price, so it's you know?

1:29:14Junseth Have you considered getting some just like giant tanks and put them in your backyard just so, like, when it goes negative, you can offer to store it?

1:29:21Junseth I feel about stuff like that all the time. It's just it's I got so many I weigh up so many hours in the day to do with

1:29:29Junseth I mean, our focus spending most of your time while listening to

1:29:32Junseth Yeah. Right now. So right now, it is more valuable to listen to Bitcoin podcast than to, become like a hoarder of of my own liquid natural gas. But I do monitor that market very closely. So if, you know, if the curve inverts,

1:29:49Junseth I'll switch to looking for natural gas. Richard, have you ever considered that, though, that you're talking about women in Starbucks, that the word hormones starts with whore?

1:30:03Rod Palmer I don't think I've ever considered that. That occurred to me today. Yeah. Wait. Let's extrapolate this idea.

1:30:12Junseth So keep on going. Well, I'm just saying, like, I think I think that there's a like, women are governed by their hormones, and that just seems like Yeah. Is different than men for the most part, which I think that's why they're named that.

1:30:29Junseth Yeah. The the hormones. The hormones because of the hormones. And it's like, you know, instead of asking your wife, is she on her period, just be like, the hormones because of the hormones.

1:30:40Rod Palmer See? I I think I think some men are governed by their hormones too. Have you ever met Corey Klipson?

1:30:49Junseth I've never met him. I'm I was told I was bad for Bitcoin and bad for Swan.

1:30:57Junseth Is this where you are you trying to speak at Pacific Bitcoin or something?

1:31:00Junseth Well, I I'm never trying to speak anyway.

1:31:09Junseth So no. A lot of people wanted to be there. It was it's a it was very good apparently.

1:31:15Junseth Terrence, of of Swan Bitcoin told me this, that I was bad for Bitcoin and bad for Swan. He told me I was a transphobe, and I said I've never been afraid of any trans people ever.

1:31:29Junseth Do you do you know what happened to Terrence last year at the conference?

1:31:35Junseth Did he get shaved?

1:31:36Junseth No. No. This is we Terrence really hasn't been on on Twitter a whole lot since the conference last year because, and we reported on this. He was caught in the men's bathroom trying to sell ordinals and try to trade ordinals in the you know, when people would be in a stall next to him, he'd stick on he'd stick it something under the Classic. Busted. He got busted. He was a he was he was a huge ordinals phobe. He projected a lot on David Bailey. It was pretty ugly.

1:32:06Junseth And, got caught treating normals in silent sense.

1:32:12Junseth Classic Terrence.

1:32:14Rod Palmer Yeah. I mean, it it's funny because, like, it I think, like, some of the strongest, it's kinda like the most homophobic

1:32:22Junseth people, you know, oftentimes turn out to be gay. Well, I once got in a car with Terrence, and he was driving a Toyota Yaris filled with clothes. And I looked at him and I said, Terrence, do you prefer the word, Chinaman or Chinese man? And he told me, Chinaman

1:32:42Junseth is what he prefers. So I think, I think that Terrence is, is is the kind of guy that would sell ordinals in a bathroom in secret.

1:32:59Junseth It's interesting. You know, his his Twitter profile is like Harvard, Wall Street, all this, and it's, It's hard. Yeah. He's driving a tried yards full of cars full of clothes. It's hard for a Chinaman to get into Harvard. Mhmm. That's true. No way. I thought it I thought it was

1:33:19Junseth I thought it was too easy. That's why they had to break it up. I got a backwards.

1:33:24Junseth Yeah. Because, like, they were Oh, okay. They they let they let, they let the blacks in, right, to Harvard, but the Chinaman, they give them a disadvantage because of their brains. And they give blacks an advantage because of their brains, but for the opposite reason. The Chinese brains are using ASIC boost. It's not fair. Right. It's unfair. So you had to you had to give the brains that are

1:33:51Junseth are on, like, are not using ASIC boost that are just on the normal software. You had to give them an opportunity to also get into Harvard. What's interesting is that back in the day, not so long ago, I don't know if seventies, it it was required that you speak Latin to get into Harvard, and I don't know any any Chinaman or blacks that speak Latin. And also you have to be able to swim to graduate, so that that I think is an impediment to certain people.

1:34:26Junseth Yeah. That's that's tough.

1:34:28Rod Palmer I I do have to say you're a much braver man than I am. I don't think I would ever get in a car with Terrence Yang. I wouldn't trust him.

1:34:37Junseth I shined a man in a in a Japanese car. Well, it was me. It was it was me, Terrence, and, American Hoddle. So, you know, I trusted him because American Hoddle trusted him, really. That was the first mistake. I take most of my cues from that man now. I used to not. I I, I used to not, but American HODL's come a long way. You know, he's turned into a real classical Bitcoiner. You know what I mean?

1:35:05Rod Palmer What is what is your definition of classical Bitcoiner? He's really tall. Yeah. Was he short before?

1:35:14Junseth He was shorter, but then he got taller. So, like, now he's he's become more of a classical Bitcoiner.

1:35:20Rod Palmer What would what do you think helped him get taller? I think a lot of people listening to this might wanna

1:35:26Junseth I think, like, a combination of HGH and Viagra.

1:35:33Junseth Do you know I think Viagra was a dentist portrait.

1:35:37Junseth And eating sea sea, animals of all sorts of oysters.

1:35:43Junseth Interesting. You know, a lot of people who are in Bitcoin nowadays and they're, they're like really hardcore maximalists really preaching the it's almost like the the pull yourself up or your bootstraps, message is a lot of guys who are short. It's not the classical Bitcoiners, but they they know better

1:36:03Junseth than just about anybody why you shouldn't, you know, what can go wrong in life if you're short. They they don't want to be short Bitcoin. They learn their lesson. And so they're they're going they're stacking their huddling all the way. They're trying to be long. But they have to just be yeah. They they have to they're trying to prove to everybody else, but they have to prove to themselves that, you know,

1:36:27Junseth Bitcoins even go up. Like, if they don't they don't have to enforce it.

1:36:31Junseth But they get maximalist on the time line. They'll get there. They'll get there. You know, word of advice to them, they'll get there. Just hold your MSTR, hold it forever, and you'll someday be a wealthy Bitcoin or two.

1:36:45Junseth Yes. Just remember being not being short Bitcoin does not mean you have to be leveraged long Bitcoin.

1:36:52Rod Palmer That's true. How much MSTR do you need to retire?

1:36:57Junseth At the moment or, like, in the future? In the future. I think one share will do it.

1:37:08Rod Palmer My

1:37:09Junseth you keep slicing up the pizza that you can't you can't make more pizzas. So, like, that you can keep diluting your shares, but each each each individual share, it's accretive. It's accretive, so it's gonna keep going up in value. Each share will probably worth

1:37:25Junseth 9 or 10,000 Bitcoin.

1:37:29Junseth Somebody's gonna pay for a pizza with, MSTY shares, and they're gonna be rolling, you know, kicking themselves for how much that MST would be valued at today Mhmm. Or, you know, in the future.

1:37:45Rod Palmer Very interesting.

1:37:48Junseth Well, all right, Richard, you want to, I think we've already covered it. You wanted to ask the last two questions of the show.

1:37:57Rod Palmer Yeah. Yeah. Have you have you ever listened to our show? It sounds like probably not. No. I hadn't.

1:38:04Junseth Rob told me I need to, but I don't listen to Rob.

1:38:11Junseth We're not trying to scold you for that. We just wanna make sure that you don't know the questions. No. I don't know the questions. No.

1:38:17Junseth But I I I didn't think I was being scolded. I was just, just informing

1:38:22Junseth you that I have I always feel guilty when I say I always feel guilty when I have to say no.

1:38:28Junseth I don't. I told her I don't listen to these things, you know. I'm I'm outside masturbating and doing steampunk things.

1:38:36Rod Palmer Yeah. Well, I am. So we just started doing this show behind the podcast. It's relatively new. Yeah. We've been rolling to Beagle Weekly, which we publish on Mondays for just over a year. We did 55 episodes, one a week.

1:38:57Rod Palmer But, yeah, before we we read the week prior to Fountain Boost with our guest, which is always interesting because they almost never listen to our show. But I ask them two questions every show. Okay. So the first one I already asked you. Did you listen to the last one? Which you haven't. The second one is, are you Jewish?

1:39:19Rod Palmer And I think we already covered this. Today? So it's like you're in the Jewish gang, but you're not Jewish. Right.

1:39:28Junseth This this is, the best word I've seen in a long time, anti swannitic.

1:39:34Rod Palmer Yeah. Anti swannitism.

1:39:36Junseth That's Yeah. Anti yeah. Yeah. It was it it really peaked at at the end of two thousand twenty three, but to them? It's you see it pop up on the timeline all the time. There's a lot of anti

1:39:48Junseth I have a 100% of my money in Swan for a while.

1:39:54Junseth A lot of people do. Yeah.

1:39:57Junseth 100%. I mean, they don't let me withdraw. Like, I would I would have I would have held it myself, but I thought to myself, what's a safer option than me holding it? And I thought Corey Klipstein holding it would be better.

1:40:12Junseth And, yeah, I mean, the reason it's one successful is because apparently most people agree with that.

1:40:19Junseth But wouldn't you agree? Like, Corey is just a better holder than you or me, obviously?

1:40:25Rod Palmer Yeah. I mean, most of the Bitcoin I ever did, I spent on cigarettes, so I'd agree. If he's holding my Bitcoin, I can spell spend it on cigarettes.

1:40:36Junseth That's a good per you you need things, in your life to get you past the bear markets.

1:40:46Junseth And, yeah, like, that's for Swan, like, that's the Pacific Bitcoin Conference and the the new Washington DC conference. So if if it's a new Swan conference, that's like the, the sign. That's the indicator that we're in a bear market.

1:41:01Rod Palmer So Terrence told you that you were bad for Bitcoin and bad for SWAN. Yeah. Is that because you were displaying some anti swanism?

1:41:12Junseth He decide he thought I was being anti Swanitic. And, and I told him that, I I buy Bitcoin on Swan, and he told me that if I bought Bitcoin on Swan, then he would know it and that I'm lying. And I said, oh, okay. That's fine. But he thought I was being anti antisemitic,

1:41:38Junseth and I I really wasn't. I have a great appreciation for, for Swan. I think that I think that the the way that Swan controls the media is very,

1:41:54Junseth very I'm impressed by it. I'm impressed by the intelligence of the employees of Swan, and how smart they are and how hardworking and good with money they are. Like, there's just a lot of you might call me Filoswanitic.

1:42:11Junseth You know? And that's the that's big right there. Like, if if I tell, you know, a CEO of a company that I, you know, I have my Bitcoin there. I want them to respond. I wanna know that if I did that and if I'm there, they know about it. That they would know about

1:42:30Junseth it. That's how you know that he's taking care of the money. He's, you know, he knows he's buying. He's he's he's paying attention to all their data. He knows every the name of every account.

1:42:41Junseth To have a good user experience, you have to get to know your users. And the best thing about it is, like, I know that he's complying with KYC regulations when he knows the true names of all of his users. You know what I mean? Mhmm.

1:42:55Rod Palmer I mean, this is Exactly. This is one of the issues with a lot of these companies is they they don't really know their customers.

1:43:03Junseth Right. But Swan I mean, Terrence told me that Swan does, and that's why and he said I was lying that I was buying there because he didn't know me as a customer. And I guess in some ways that was reassuring, but also not that reassuring for me because I was buying there. And, but but, you know, it was it was fine because,

1:43:26Junseth they let you withdraw. So but he told me I was bad for Bitcoin and bad for Swan as a result of of this conversation, and I felt like that's I put that on my profile so that everyone can know.

1:43:40Richard Greaser Yeah. Well, I mean, it's if you're

1:43:43Rod Palmer a Bitcoin exchange, it's important to have a media arm to have a conference because you need a million podcasters to have all your customers on to get to know them. Right. Yeah. Next one. Well, we don't have too many boost for this. So the last episode was, Kaz Biko.

1:44:05Junseth He thinks that he A former Swan.

1:44:08Rod Palmer Yeah. Former Swan employee. He thinks that creating a new podcast episode or sorry, podcast app with good UX is revolutionary. We discussed that.

1:44:21Junseth That's exciting.

1:44:22Rod Palmer It was in the it was at the height of Maxi Madness when we had this conversation.

1:44:28Junseth Oh, yeah. So

1:44:31Rod Palmer I got I got a DM from Corey in the middle of the the conversation. Corey was, letting me know his, concerns with Maxi Madness and, to discuss that a little bit. But 10,000 stats from late stage Huddl. Did you really get a DM from Corey Klipstin? You spelled his name wrong. That's kinda rude. Klipstein.

1:44:52Junseth Spelled Klipstein. And Klipenstein.

1:44:56Junseth Oh, that's easily intentional.

1:44:58Rod Palmer Yeah. Right in the middle. Oh, that that's anti somatic, so, knock it off late stage model. Right in the middle of the recording, I've been anti somatic since he blocked me on Twitter. Yes. I did get a, DM for Corey, and, I wanna take it personally. I mean, there's a lot of there's a lot of good swans out there that the answer is never anti swanism.

1:45:23Rod Palmer You can you can always criticize them. Anti anti swanism is kinda like Trump derangement syndrome. You know what I mean? Like, you can you can be opposed to a person or an institution or an idea, but you don't have to take it over the top. Need fair criticisms.

1:45:42Junseth Right.

1:45:44Junseth Yeah. Bitcoin fails. It's not Swan's fault, and some people just have to realize that, like, Bitcoin doesn't

1:45:50Junseth It is my fault.

1:45:53Junseth Right. It's not big in the app. It's not Swan's fault. Right. From it's not Odie's fault, it's not Odie's fault. So don't let Odie take credit cause Odie will take credit if Swan fails. I did it. But but it was Johnsef. Thank you. The no. The, the next one is from Pies. So when you were talking about your orgy and then, like, the kid with six pack who was just pounding every hole. I I made the comparison to podcasts like Pies list if you if you ever get on fountain and you look to the comments and the replies of every single Bitcoin podcast that you could possibly think of Pies has listened to it, then he said it, and and commented on it within an hour

1:46:36Junseth of it publishing. Here's my question about, for Pies. If Pies is spending all of his stats on, Bitcoin commentary, What is he using to buy cigarettes with?

1:46:50Junseth That's a good question. Pies is a, Pies is like I think he said he was doing 40 cigarettes per day. So the guy is just crushing it. I mean, he's it's dude to never lose a Spiro Pit.

1:47:03Junseth He's got he's I mean, he's got four cigarettes there in the comments for what you paid 420 sats. So I guess there's that.

1:47:12Rod Palmer Yeah. There's a union job. If you're buying Lucy's, the exchange rate's a thousand sats. It's a cigarette right now. Okay. But, yeah, if you're you're buying in bulk, you can get that price down pretty significantly. I only buy in bulk because I only smoke in bulk. So

1:47:31Junseth Did you look for non KYC saves

1:47:34Junseth more than one at once?

1:47:37Rod Palmer Not usually. I mean, I think that's a little bit little bit ridiculous. I I smoke about three packs a day. My wife smokes about two. My my kids smokes about one.

1:47:50Junseth So Yeah. I think smoking two cigarette. Smoke a sea cigarette at the same time is, like, being into really big tits. You're doing it for the distraction. Richard does it because he likes he's enjoying a cigarette. Richard, have you told your kid that one one pack a day is weak sauce?

1:48:06Rod Palmer Well, you I mean,

1:48:08Junseth he's gotta grow up a little bit. He's only eight years old. You know what I mean? Right. But that's an easy eight with a good father like you, you'd you'd have him on two two and a half packs already.

1:48:20Junseth Well, I can't afford it yet, so I'm kinda glad that he doesn't. I know he doesn't found a boost to be able to afford it. Yeah. Yeah. It it for people out there, if your kid's not smoking two packs a day, by the time he's 10 years old, that doesn't mean he's gay. Some people just don't need that much nicotine. They're late bloomers.

1:48:36Rod Palmer Yeah. I'm I'm content with him smoking, only a pack a day until Bitcoin hits 2,000,000,000,000 USDT later this year. My kid will not be caught

1:48:47Junseth smoking Newports, though. They and they know that. We're throwing Newports. It's just

1:48:54Junseth They're mental. That's that's not that's not that's a Newports still mixing. Like a clove only? Are you, like, importing them from Pakistan?

1:49:01Junseth Absolutely not. We're very anti clove.

1:49:04Rod Palmer It's actually in the employee handbook that if you get found to be smoking, cloves, you get terminated immediately at the bugle. You know you know who Ron outed for smoking clothes? Or I think Rob Hamilton pointed this out to us. Who? Natex. Natex. Natex was smoking clothes. What a fag.

1:49:26Junseth I agree. That's exactly what we said.

1:49:29Junseth You know, I I knew a a number of government employees who worked overseas, and, all of their they would they they had these cigarettes. They were normal tobacco filled cigarettes, and some were closed, but depending. They all look the same, but, they they had them in these nice packages

1:49:48Junseth that didn't come with, like, death pictures. You know? And they they looked like crayons. They had beautiful colors all throughout, and it was just a it was a pleasure. Smoking them was a pleasure.

1:50:02Junseth Oh, Vivian. Yeah. Crayon dick. It's like in the military, if you're deployed, close aren't gay, but

1:50:12Junseth They'll give you a position It's like

1:50:15Junseth exactly.

1:50:16Rod Palmer Is that an official stance of Bitcoin veterans?

1:50:20Junseth Yeah. Yeah. It close their close their game unless you're deployed. Once you're deployed, you're in a forward operating location. And like you said, close close smell nice. Yeah. They they look nice. It just looks like something that, you know, wants to look beautiful. Like, you know, it it's nice doing Joey that. There's not much you can do when you're deployed that's that, like, makes you gay. Like, you're alone with a bunch of men,

1:50:46Junseth naked in the shower. You you know, you you reach over. You grab the guy next to you. You finish him off. Like, I think that's allowed even when you're deployed. Only when you're deployed.

1:50:60Junseth Right. That's what that's that's what I think the Middle East could learn from from the West is if you wanna be gay, you gotta go start a war somewhere and and and go fight it. That was good words. Not at home. Not at home. They don't alright. The next one is also from Pies. He that's the other thing about Pies. He's a, he's a double booster, sometimes a triple booster. Pies,

1:51:26Junseth he's triple boosted every podcast we you've ever seen. But this is cigarettes emojis for a 120 SAP boost. Once again, thank you, Pies.

1:51:38Rod Palmer Next one from BTC on board. Thumbs up, thumbs up, lightning, lightning. Oh, we got another one for Pies. I'll read this one. When will voting come to Noster? I couldn't vote because I don't fuck with Twitter.

1:52:00Junseth I honestly, Pies, it Nostr, it's all up to the the UX progress that Nostr makes. So if they add polls but every time I look up headlines, it's just more bad news about the user experience with Nostr, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

1:52:17Rod Palmer Well, interesting thing on this, Matt O'Dell said on Citadel dispatch today with Rob Hamilton that, he's talking with Dorsey about adding, voting functionality to

1:52:34Rod Palmer Nostr via primal.

1:52:37Junseth Absolutely. I'm just doing the math here. So you guys made like, on that episode, you guys made, like, $4.

1:52:46Junseth Yeah. I was kinda bad. That was a yeah. It was a bad one. Good business. Last one was, like, a $100. USDT. I mean, anytime you get triple digit USDT for talking about Bitcoin for an hour,

1:53:01Junseth tell me that's not more valuable than most other things you can do at 09:00 at night. It sounds like you guys are running a very profitable business. You take that $4, you split it between the two of you, that's two two McDonald's sandwiches. That's like a full payment worth of dollars.

1:53:18Rod Palmer We have to pay our our producer,

1:53:20Junseth Kaylee Welch as well. Do you divide do you divide by three?

1:53:24Rod Palmer Yeah. And then then we have some other contributors, like we've got Timmy Tether, we've got pastor Jeffs, we've got

1:53:32Junseth We also get, they also get boosted Monero.

1:53:36Junseth So you get, like, you're getting, like, three We don't read the

1:53:55Rod Palmer Which comes out to a 141 USDT.

1:54:01Junseth That's that's amazing.

1:54:04Rod Palmer Feels a little bit better. But, yeah, I mean, this is bear market podcasting. You know what I mean?

1:54:11Junseth Bitcoin's under a 100 k. Yeah. This is why you don't go leverage. You don't take leverage to get podcast equipment, microphones, road casters, and then not be prepared for the bear market because the, you know, name comes gonna dwindle.

1:54:27Junseth Yeah. Makes sense. Do you guys are you are you able to do you have a liquor budget? Or

1:54:37Rod Palmer I mean, I don't I don't drink a whole lot. I don't I don't really feel the need to. I used to drink a lot back when I worked with traditional media because it was so soul sucking, but I I don't really need to. I just mainline like, Bitcoin podcasts are what what do for me. Kay Kaylee drinks a lot. She she likes to drink and drive. I mean, I I typically only drink when I'm driving.

1:55:02Junseth I kinda Well, yeah. I mean, my my cigarette habit, my beef tallow product habit are so high that, it makes up for not drinking a whole lot. In the bear market, can you afford those things, or do you have to cut back? Well, I mean, you definitely have to cut back.

1:55:20Junseth Do you stop do you stop using beef tallow for, like, more than just cooking? Is that what you

1:55:26Junseth Well, yeah. Yeah. Sometimes you have to start eating seed oils to start getting sunburn again, but you just gotta do you gotta do what you gotta do to survive. Do you use the kalo as, like, a suntan lotion? Is that I've tried it. It's mostly for my mustache. It's a good mustache, pomade.

1:55:42Rod Palmer I see. So We we've got and one thing to mention, we do have other, streams of income. So we've got, like, the, we've got the t shirt store. We got the 40 HPW, clothing line, which has been a real hit. I've got the comply my child in the, in the

1:56:02Junseth Peter Todd shirt?

1:56:06Junseth Yeah. Peter Todd is the there was she. Yeah.

1:56:09Rod Palmer Where's the comply? There we go. This is this is my t shirt.

1:56:15Junseth For Shepherd Fair. I like this.

1:56:19Rod Palmer Yeah. We got the comply t shirt.

1:56:23Junseth Who whose face is that?

1:56:26Junseth That's the guy that beat you in accident and us. That's Michael Sailor.

1:56:29Junseth Oh, okay. I like that.

1:56:34Rod Palmer Yeah. These these have been picking up in sales. We we've we've got a few other things that we're going to, what other cool T shirts do we have to to show? We got the Plugs on Parade T shirt, the Timmy Teller T shirt, Maxi Madness T shirt. This one is good on. This is what a Bitcoin podcaster looks like. Where's the Where's the wife one? Yeah. Where's the wife one?

1:57:02Junseth They use something third page. And it just says Oh, they're right there. I wish, I wish I was a Bitcoin podcast. So so my husband would listen to me. No. That's good. And it's for

1:57:20Junseth Yeah. I should make jerseys for all the, people in the maxi, brackets and Terrence Yang.

1:57:27Junseth Oh, there's gonna be merch next year for sure. There's gonna be influencer inspired merch.

1:57:33Rod Palmer That's a that's a good idea. I mean, I I did reach out to the I forgot what the Bitcoin Jersey guy's name is, but I I got some quotes from him on some jerseys, and, I think we're gonna make some sports park jerseys.

1:57:47Junseth Yeah. From the court Klipstein jersey.

1:57:52Junseth Or Klipstein. We got a Jack Jack Spring. They need a jersey. Teddy Bitcoins probably needs a jersey. We've probably retired Teddy Bitcoins and do like a ceremony, raise it to the raises to the top with a banner. Show a little respect and just kind of let let other people compete. Number 23. Number 23. Yeah. That's right.

1:58:11Junseth Tired that number.

1:58:15Rod Palmer He is a legend.

1:58:16Junseth Truly. I never I know I didn't you know, the thing that Teddy Bitcoins made me realize is that there are hundreds of thousands of Bitcoiners out there. Some of them are people. Some of them are AIs. Some of them are women.

1:58:36Junseth Some of them are pretending to be women.

1:58:39Rod Palmer Women showed up to vote at Maxi Madness. I think that that's what really swung

1:58:44Junseth And they voted for teddy Bitcoins. Yeah. A lot of them. Not all. Yeah. And the and the women and then the women voted for Shinobi. Shinobi pulled off a lot of upsets to to all the chicks that, he simped a lot of girls, so they thrown the support back. Yeah. Especially in sales. Do you

1:59:07Rod Palmer think nobody has a chance with d plus plus?

1:59:14Junseth Yeah. Well, he's gonna have to learn to code. She's not gonna respect him until he learns to code. You're working on on that, Richard?

1:59:23Rod Palmer Yeah. We've been trying to hook them up for a while. We think they, would be a good couple, but I don't know. Should do you do you won't respond to us? She she won't respond. I I messaged her on Instagram the other day, and no response. So I I don't know if she's that she's not interested or she's busy.

1:59:45Junseth Did you send it on behalf of Shinobi or like, what did you,

1:59:51Junseth Well, I'd say we were at a conference and I, they were kinda standing next to each other and I, I pulled the old trick where I grabbed Shinobi's arm and I pulled him up to d plus plus I said, Hey, this is my friend Shinobi. He, he wants to meet you. And I walked away and he came back like five minutes later or, and he said no. And I talked to Dee. She said he just spent the whole time ranting about calling Donald Trump retarded. He didn't even use the opportunity to talk to her or get to know her. Mhmm.

2:00:20Rod Palmer Yeah. I think the thing holding Shinobi back from dating Dee is that I I just don't think she's into orange cells, and Shinobi is a little bit of an orange cell.

2:00:30Junseth That makes sense. That makes sense. So you're you're working on that, though. I think that's good for, for Shinobi. I think he needs to, he needs to dig down. You know what I mean?

2:00:43Junseth Mhmm. 100%. Yeah. Tier those those bear market blues have a slump buster. Everybody needs slump buster.

2:00:53Rod Palmer That's one special. Win. Well, June, Seth, really appreciate you you coming on the show.

2:01:02Junseth You guys I don't know how I feel about it. Like, I I feel like I've, doxed myself here.

2:01:08Richard Greaser What do you mean?

2:01:10Junseth I just I, like, feel like I just like, I'm doxing myself.

2:01:15Junseth How so? I think you're just paranoid because you're stoned.

2:01:19Junseth I wish I were.

2:01:23Junseth Stood.

2:01:26Rod Palmer Which part, like being in the Jewish mafia or which part are you concerned about the oxen or something? I think the I think the the Jews,

2:01:36Junseth definitely concerned about the Jews, and and and and and the skinheads, to be honest. The Bitcoin skinheads? Either Bitcoin skinheads, which are a fairly large demographic. I think Shinobi's part of them. I'm not sure he's he won't confirm it.

2:01:59Junseth Like the Stony Bitzens? Def like, the Stony Bitzens is definitely the leader of that, that group. So I think he's a Minnesotan, though, so I think he's okay with me.

2:02:11Junseth Is law is Elijah willing to call Corey Clifton a retard? Stoney will give you a pass.

2:02:18Junseth I won't call Corey Clifton a retard.

2:02:22Rod Palmer It's it's anti swamp. I can't do it. I can't do it because, like,

2:02:28Junseth here's the thing. Corey is is a politician, and he will anytime anytime he insults me or accidentally blocks me

2:02:40Junseth and someone tells him, he turns around and sucks my dick. And I just feel like I would lose that privilege if I started calling him a retard. He'd remember who I am.

2:02:55Junseth Hell, yeah. That's I would not wanna give up boy jobs from Corey Clifton either. So That's what I'm saying. I guess I yeah. I wouldn't I wouldn't say it, but yeah. I don't know. I think Stoney is, I think Stoney's just he's got a high temper. He just blames a lot of things on the it's like one of those things that you stub your toe, you gotta blame something. For for Stoney, he's having a bad day. He dropped on those big rocks on his toes. He's gotta blame the Jews. Yeah. Some people blame the Jews,

2:03:27Junseth like like Martin Martin Luther, and some people blame Swan. Makes perfect sense.

2:03:34Junseth Mhmm. Swan der Angmussen.

2:03:38Junseth SDS.

2:03:42Junseth Or derangement syndrome?

2:03:44Junseth CDS.

2:03:46Rod Palmer Oh, I think I think you're gonna be safe. I think, we we have enough poll. I don't think anybody's gonna come after you. I don't think you're safe. Thank God. I mean, you're you're you're friends at the the Jewish Jewish mafia meme gang or whatever you wanna call them, you know?

2:04:10Junseth That's true. I feel like I might have a special place with them too as a Shabbos goi, so, you know?

2:04:20Junseth Daddy, we said worst things on this here thing before and we still have an invite, to go to Israel, you know, they offer it to us, so it hasn't been revoked, so I think it'd be alright. Who is they? They?

2:04:37Rod Palmer It's a privilege to know who they is.

2:04:42Junseth Well, it's it's it's important it's important to know who they is when you say they. It doesn't matter where other people misinterpret it, as long as you know. Otherwise, you blame them on thing. You blame blame the Jews. You blame the government. So make sure you always know who they is. Right.

2:05:01Junseth It's it's never the Jews.

2:05:03Rod Palmer You got you gotta listen to forty hours of Marty Bent to learn who they is. I'm definitely not gonna listen to forty hours of Marty Bent. I like Marty,

2:05:11Junseth but forty hours of Marty Bent is far too little entropy.

2:05:16Junseth Why do you say that? That's a great way to put it. If somebody asks you how you like their podcast and you you know, I'm sure what to tell them you to sell them. It's not enough entropy.

2:05:28Junseth That's right. You'll want more entropy in your podcast, man. I listen I listen to one hour, you know, and then thirty nine hours of other stuff, Richard. That that should make you satisfied.

2:05:40Rod Palmer Well, I I don't care what you do. I I'm just prescribing, what I think is necessary for a healthy life. Forty hours of Marty Ben podcast?

2:05:52Junseth For some people.

2:05:53Rod Palmer Yeah. You gotta know how the world like, how how do you get to change the tariffs right now if you don't listen to forty Hours of Bitcoin podcast? That's a good point. United States.

2:06:04Junseth For some people, yeah, you just gotta for for some people, Jordan Peterson, at least the old stuff is, revolutionary stuff. And by the time you're by the time you're old enough to rent a car, you know that you have to make your bet. And if you don't, well, then you still need to listen to Jordan Peterson podcasts. And some people have to listen to Jordan Peterson podcasts till they're in their thirties or until they're in their forties. And that

2:06:29Junseth as long as they keep listening and they can overcome it. It's, you know,

2:06:33Rod Palmer I don't think Terrence Yang has ever listened to, Jordan Peterson podcasts and that's why he's that's why his car was in my ear.

2:06:40Junseth If you, if you still need to listen to Dave Ramsey podcasts in your forties, you're you're probably not gonna make it. If you had to listen to Jordan Peterson podcast in your forties, you're probably not gonna make it. But you still does still doesn't mean you shouldn't try.

2:06:52Junseth You gotta listen to David Ramsey podcast in your forties. I don't know if you're gonna retire.

2:06:58Junseth Right. But isn't he you shouldn't try. That's a good point. Keep listening to the podcast. How much micro strategy you think he owns?

2:07:06Junseth Jordan Peterson.

2:07:07Rod Palmer Dave Ramsey. 37. So he's going to be retiring for sure. Yeah.

2:07:15Junseth He's trying to afford taxes. That's our, that's kind of our motto. Just trying to make sure I can afford to pay my taxes. And when in my experience, I recommend Bitcoin to people because Bitcoin helps me afford to pay my taxes.

2:07:30Junseth Mhmm. Because it doesn't pay dividends.

2:07:35Junseth That's right. And you come.

2:07:38Junseth I get it. Boys, it is midnight ten. Well, thank And Thank you for coming on the show, Jun, so this is an easy time coming. Some porn. And

2:07:52Junseth Tell you.

2:07:53Junseth Throw on throw on some Venice Porter. Throw on some OnlyFans. I call it a good night.

2:08:01Junseth See you and I end our nights the same way.

2:08:04Junseth That's right. That's I guess

2:08:06Junseth With a cigarette, of course. Yeah. Oh, yeah. At the end I guess we've come to the conclusion that that's just the best way to end the day. So if you're out there, you do the same. Look at some pictures of Dennis Porter.

2:08:19Junseth Dennis non KYZ. Absolutely. Not KYZ feet picks. Yeah.

2:08:23Junseth KYC feet picks. And, and then a little OnlyFans, and that's how And some tallow loop. And tallow. Tallow. And that, my friends, is what precedes a great night of sleep.

2:08:38Rod Palmer Post note, listen to some Michael Sailor. You you ever use Adam Back interviews to fall asleep?

2:08:44Junseth Those are good. It's like counting sheep. Yeah.

2:08:48Junseth I've I've never done that, but now that you now that you mentioned it, you know, you guys should you guys should add a section to your site of, like, sleep sleepy podcasts. Oh, we're gonna do forty hours per week to sleepy podcasts. You know? What I mean. Like because it it counts if you're sleeping. Right?

2:09:06Junseth Yeah. Yeah. I think so. I mean, you can also do yeah. Keep doing for to let your if your wife's pregnant, put, headphones on her pregnant belly, works forty hours per week for your unborn child. Start them early.

2:09:20Rod Palmer It's not a one for one, but, yeah, it definitely counts. Yeah. Cool. Alrighty. Thank you again.