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We have never lived in a more adversarial time to be a podcaster.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-31" data-t="31">Do you have what it takes to share signal to the world in such trying times?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-37">0:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-37" data-t="37">Welcome back, folks, to Dig Weekly, and I think we were all in need of a morale boost</span> <span class="cue" id="t-44" data-t="44">after the last few weeks. And boy, did we get it. We just witnessed the funniest, most anticlimactic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-52" data-t="52">and two</span> <span class="cue" id="t-53" data-t="53">months of squabbling about nothing. The plebs,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-57" data-t="57">the Pleb Revolt has been defeated. Matt Kratter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-60" data-t="60">and Luke and The Mechanic and, you know, all those goofballs, Justin Belcher,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-66">1:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-66" data-t="66">they have forked</span> <span class="cue" id="t-67" data-t="67">themselves</span> <span class="cue" id="t-68" data-t="68">off the network.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-70" data-t="70">Some are crying, some are insisting the battle's not over. Luke thinks that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-75" data-t="75">his fork is the real Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-77" data-t="77">and that everybody else forked off of him.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-80">1:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-80" data-t="80">You know, it it's his world. We're just living in it, folks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-85" data-t="85">But, it's been a great morale boost. It's over. We're done with it. We're done with the stupid Nazis and now we can talk about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-92" data-t="92">serious issues. We can, you know, get back to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-97" data-t="97">separating money and state,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-98" data-t="98">taking on the feds,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-100" data-t="100">taking on big Bitcoin,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-103">1:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-103" data-t="103">doing the important adult work. We we had a fun distraction for a while, but it's over and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-109" data-t="109">how are you doing, Ron? How are you doing with this transition? Are you sad that that the shenanigans are over for now? No.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-116">1:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-116" data-t="116">I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-117" data-t="117">like, Luke is a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-119" data-t="119">well, I don't even know how to say it, a cenobacanthus.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-121" data-t="121">He does not recognize,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-123" data-t="123">the current pope</span> <span class="cue" id="t-124" data-t="124">in the Vatican.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-126">2:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-126" data-t="126">He he denies it. I don't I don't remember it goes back to some there's some schism it goes back to where they don't recognize</span> <span class="cue" id="t-133" data-t="133">since the pope split. And they had not found a new pope in the set of the cantus, so they're still hashing away trying to find a new pope. Meanwhile, we've had, like, four popes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-141" data-t="141">in, you know, well, I say we. The cons the general consensus of what Catho Catholicism</span> <span class="cue" id="t-148" data-t="148">Roman Catholicism is, they've had several popes. So he's play he's doing the same thing with Bitcoin. And so how do I feel about it personally?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-155" data-t="155">I'm over Adam. You know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-157" data-t="157">I I I almost tweeted this earlier, but</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-160">2:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-160" data-t="160">as of as soon as they split and go to their Blake to be whatever that new algorithm to fire Bitcoin miners,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-168" data-t="168">once once they do that, I will no longer be boosting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-171" data-t="171">Nazi bangers. I would say I've always been I've always said and I've always maintained, and Nazi has a banger.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-177" data-t="177">The bib one ten pleb has a banger. I will boost it. But I will not be given that anymore.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-183" data-t="183">My</span> <span class="cue" id="t-184" data-t="184">my own listen. If your if your bangers</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-187">3:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-187" data-t="187">are invalid</span> <span class="cue" id="t-189" data-t="189">according to the Kayfabeans</span> <span class="cue" id="t-191" data-t="191">consensus,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-192" data-t="192">I'm rejecting them, not boosting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-194" data-t="194">them. So they're they're out of they're out of the culture. They've already actually forked out of the culture. So I did I I filtered them. Once they get their new ticker, once they've got enough confirmations,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-205" data-t="205">on their new hardware blockchain that their their ticker, their name, their logo is all locked in,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-211">3:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-211" data-t="211">it's activated we just go to our timeline, and we we just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-214" data-t="214">filter those out, we're muted. No longer have to see they, they, they have to, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-220" data-t="220">disappear I've quarantined in their own little algorithmic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-223" data-t="223">echo chamber</span> <span class="cue" id="t-225" data-t="225">So, it's over, I'm done with it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-227" data-t="227">If, if people still wanna LARP and, and do that</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-231">3:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-231" data-t="231">you know, it's a free country.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-232" data-t="232">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-233" data-t="233">enjoy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-234">3:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-234" data-t="234">Pub Slop's over. It's a new era. Yeah. It's been the death of Pub Slop has been wild and it's been a lot more violent than I anticipated it. We we thought,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-244" data-t="244">at least I thought, it was gonna be, you know, soft and easy with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-248" data-t="248">just the the end of this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-251" data-t="251">hard fork debacle.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-253" data-t="253">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-254" data-t="254">also included the the cold card</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-257">4:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-257" data-t="257">incident,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-258" data-t="258">you know, which cold card was for years the the epitome of pupslop,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-264" data-t="264">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-265" data-t="265">it's been</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-266">4:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-266" data-t="266">incredibly painful, you know, I think for a broad Yeah. I know. A lot of people have really used this time to reflect</span> <span class="cue" id="t-274" data-t="274">and to rethink things. Pastor Coin is a good example.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-278" data-t="278">He's now allowing Monero</span> <span class="cue" id="t-281" data-t="281">and Stablecoin users</span> <span class="cue" id="t-283" data-t="283">in his congregation at church. He will not turn them away.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-286" data-t="286">And he will</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-288">4:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-288" data-t="288">still minister the gospel to them and he's even considering allowing members of his church to tithe in an era. So, I mean, people are rethinking the MAPSI,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-298" data-t="298">ether like, just the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-299" data-t="299">just the extremity, the toxicity, the reflex the reactive</span> <span class="cue" id="t-304" data-t="304">everything's reactionary because it hasn't served</span> <span class="cue" id="t-308" data-t="308">it hasn't been it hasn't been good to those who follow it. And at the end of the day, a good meme, a good culture, a good religion, a good cult, whatever you wanna identify it as, is only</span> <span class="cue" id="t-318" data-t="318">going to continue</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-319">5:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-319" data-t="319">and transfer in time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-321" data-t="321">if it's a good idea that people who follow it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-325" data-t="325">receive a benefit from it. Yeah. It seems like</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-329">5:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-329" data-t="329">the general Bitcoin culture</span> <span class="cue" id="t-331" data-t="331">is completely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-332" data-t="332">rudderless</span> <span class="cue" id="t-334" data-t="334">right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-335" data-t="335">There's nobody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-337" data-t="337">staring the ship.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-338">5:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-338" data-t="338">Seems like Michael Saylor,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-340" data-t="340">you know, for all the criticisms he's getting, he has just completely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-345" data-t="345">disassociated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-346" data-t="346">himself entirely with Bitcoin culture except when he comes in to dunk on something exceptionally stupid. But he he he's out of it now. He's gone full</span> <span class="cue" id="t-356" data-t="356">his own direction.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-357">5:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-357" data-t="357">He</span> <span class="cue" id="t-358" data-t="358">he was an early mover here. I mean, he crashed out on Danny, on what Bitcoin did,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-364" data-t="364">early this year. He did it with a slash. It was my quiet exit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-369" data-t="369">He really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-370" data-t="370">kinda got out in front of it, it's like, you can't fire me, you can't like some heroes get out there and say, you can't slay me, I'm committing seppuku. Or like, I'm exiting, I'm I'm not your hero anymore. I don't wanna I'm not I'm not your role model, it's not my responsibility</span> <span class="cue" id="t-384" data-t="384">to be your role model It's not my responsibility</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-387">6:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-387" data-t="387">to keep your podcast relevant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-389" data-t="389">And I think there's gonna be more people that do this I think they're gonna preemptively</span> <span class="cue" id="t-393" data-t="393">reject</span> <span class="cue" id="t-394" data-t="394">this club slot culture that this, you know, that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-398" data-t="398">is hard to get rid of and just say, listen,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-400">6:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-400" data-t="400">I'm disowning you. You're not disowning me. Do you think that's what Odell did? Stepping away from rabbit hole recap</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-407">6:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-407" data-t="407">and just kind of a quiet No. I think, you know, Mehdi O'Dowd did that when he left Twitter a few years ago to go nostril only.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-416" data-t="416">Unfortunately, he came back at the wrong time. He came right he came back and made it very clear that he was coming back, and then he was doing it deliberately, and wanted to be I mean, he went on what Bitcoin did and said he's he's kind of still in this to keep fighting, drag it for a cold card. And then,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-432" data-t="432">you know, that's just been he's been navigating that differently. I think he probably, if he could do things over,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-439" data-t="439">he wouldn't have come back a few months ago for Algos.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-442">7:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-442" data-t="442">Yeah. What do you what do you think the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-445" data-t="445">like, what what does the Bitcoin ecosystem look like without a rabbit hole recap?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-450" data-t="450">So many plabs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-452" data-t="452">tune in there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-453" data-t="453">for years, for eight years or so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-457" data-t="457">every week</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-458">7:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-458" data-t="458">to figure out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-459" data-t="459">what they should think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-461" data-t="461">and listen to Matt and Marty. And now they don't have anybody this very traumatic event happens,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-467" data-t="467">many of them being cold card users.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-470" data-t="470">And they're like, now we don't know what to think because nobody's telling us what to think.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-474" data-t="474">What does</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-475">7:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-475" data-t="475">the ecosystem look like for individuals like that?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-479" data-t="479">Like, what what type of content do they turn into</span> <span class="cue" id="t-482" data-t="482">turn to after this? Do they listen to water? I know. And I I</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-486">8:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-486" data-t="486">that's the question. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-488" data-t="488">the the bigger question, I think, is what does that mean for the rest of us? Because now there is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-495" data-t="495">a directionless,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-496" data-t="496">angry,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-498" data-t="498">lost group of freaks out there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-501" data-t="501">and they've got they don't have a podcast to keep the bill I mean think about, we love them,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-505">8:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-505" data-t="505">Pies.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-507" data-t="507">Now Pies doesn't have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-509" data-t="509">that structure in his life</span> <span class="cue" id="t-511" data-t="511">to keep him stacking snaps, staying humble, and, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-516" data-t="516">he's gonna be a menace on the workplace.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-518" data-t="518">That any Pies with the Jackhammer without a podcast to listen to? God forbid.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-523">8:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-523" data-t="523">Yeah. I think we're we're seeing a a scary situation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-528" data-t="528">here where</span> <span class="cue" id="t-530" data-t="530">like, what what is a directionless,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-533" data-t="533">leaderless Bitcoin ecosystem,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-536" data-t="536">social ecosystem look like? Do they all pivot to AI?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-540" data-t="540">I mean, we're just seeing it's never been in that more</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-544">9:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-544" data-t="544">adversarial time in history to be a Bitcoin podcaster</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-547">9:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-547" data-t="547">as of right now. And I think that it's There's gonna be a lot of people jockeying to be you're right.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-554">9:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-554" data-t="554">It's the first churning we tore down</span> <span class="cue" id="t-557" data-t="557">all the institutions,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-558" data-t="558">the flagship podcasts, the flagship podcasters,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-562" data-t="562">A. T. Sessions, DTC Sessions, excuse me. He's Sovereign Sessions now he took DTC out of his name, and for the plebs, for the followers, for the average, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-574" data-t="574">Humble Stacker,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-575" data-t="575">it's chaotic, it's dangerous,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-578">9:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-578" data-t="578">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-579" data-t="579">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-580" data-t="580">it's the frontier. It is it is not supposed to be comfortable.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-584" data-t="584">But do not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-586" data-t="586">like, make no mistake,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-588" data-t="588">people are going to be jockeying to fill</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-591">9:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-591" data-t="591">the vacuum of influence,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-594" data-t="594">into the vacuum of glaze. And some of them will be doing it deliberately and some people will just rise to the occasion. I mean, say what you want about the Red Team,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-604" data-t="604">they are quickly rising in influence and earning a lot of glaze.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-610" data-t="610">So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-611" data-t="611">people people are looking and searching for new heroes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-614" data-t="614">new influencers,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-616">10:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-616" data-t="616">and new new authority.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-618">10:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-618" data-t="618">And I think that any people very often do find what they're looking for. Well, there might be a need need to be a new way for individuals to relate to themselves and each other in a in a social group, and for a long time, it's been Bitcoin maximalism.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-632" data-t="632">And I don't know if there's gonna be a resurgence of that or if it's going to get a little bit of a soft fork,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-639" data-t="639">some improvements to it and and come out looking slightly differently</span> <span class="cue" id="t-643" data-t="643">with some different terminology.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-646" data-t="646">But, yeah, there there are individuals that will definitely step up to play</span> <span class="cue" id="t-651" data-t="651">and take some glaze</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-652">10:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-652" data-t="652">where it is. But, you know, the the question is is like, okay, you know, red team is stepping into a position of leadership</span> <span class="cue" id="t-659" data-t="659">and they're getting a lot of attention and a lot of respect</span> <span class="cue" id="t-663" data-t="663">except from Stony. Stony and JW don't seem to appreciate them very much, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-668" data-t="668">is that just them pivoting to AI?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-670">11:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-670" data-t="670">Yeah. I said the other day that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-673" data-t="673">a lot of people have already pivoted to AI,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-676" data-t="676">or they were and they just happened to have pivoted it to themselves,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-680" data-t="680">or a lot of people were just looking for an excuse to pivot to AI,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-685" data-t="685">or waiting for a black swan event, something. And I think a lot of people are doing that. It's I mean, part of it's out of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-694" data-t="694">a necessity.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-695">11:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-695" data-t="695">I mean, do you got these clankers, these pirate clankers using Chinese AI? And they're just going out there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-702" data-t="702">and it is it like the pirates in the old the the golden age of piracy a few centuries ago?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-707" data-t="707">You've got these these plebs out here sailing alone without any defense without any self awareness and these these clanker pirates are just showing up and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-716" data-t="716">absolutely fleecing them from all their of all their Bitcoin. These plagues have no entropy, they have no defenses. They have no idea even what their vulnerabilities</span> <span class="cue" id="t-724" data-t="724">and and risks are.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-726" data-t="726">And they're out out at sea, and these clankers are just circling them. And they've got compute and GPUs and and Chinese AI behind them, and they're just</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-735">12:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-735" data-t="735">the clubs are still running on guardrail chat GPT.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-738" data-t="738">And so you're gonna need to be comfortable with AI. You're gonna need I mean, not as a breakthrough person necessarily, but if you have a business,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-746" data-t="746">if you're transacting, sending real value back and forth, if,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-750" data-t="750">if you're a self, you're using self custody or you run your own lightning node, or you need to run, you know, L and D or BTC pay, like you're at tons of risk. And people are gonna have to start either</span> <span class="cue" id="t-762" data-t="762">doing their own use of this advanced</span> <span class="cue" id="t-765" data-t="765">compute AI, running local AI, running your own harnesses, use an open router,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-771">12:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-771" data-t="771">routester,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-772" data-t="772">something more than just a chatbot,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-774" data-t="774">or you're gonna have to pay for services of people who do, like the red team. It's I yeah. I guess my answer is a lot of people have to pivot because they have no choice. I think a lot of individuals,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-784">13:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-784" data-t="784">you know, have been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-786" data-t="786">had this desire to have, like, pretend jobs and to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-791" data-t="791">you know, sit at home all day in their underwear.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-794" data-t="794">Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-795" data-t="795">kids growing up, they want to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-797" data-t="797">TikTokers or</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-799">13:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-799" data-t="799">or YouTubers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-800" data-t="800">primarily.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-801" data-t="801">If that's what they're dreaming. They're not dreaming of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-804" data-t="804">getting their hands dirty,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-806" data-t="806">climbing up a telephone</span> <span class="cue" id="t-808" data-t="808">line, or, you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-810">13:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-810" data-t="810">doing any any sort of real work. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-814" data-t="814">it seems like the the make believe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-817" data-t="817">economy of individuals that aren't really generating,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-821" data-t="821">value to the world. You know, we talked a lot about, like, HR departments, but, you know, a lot of a lot of jobs are just extensions of this of like, what what value to the world are you really providing by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-834" data-t="834">sifting through spreadsheets all day now that you can just have AI do it for you? And so, you know Nobody yeah. Nobody wants to roll their own dice.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-843">14:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-843" data-t="843">Everybody wants to keep their job</span> <span class="cue" id="t-846" data-t="846">that's really being done by software.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-849" data-t="849">People want</span> <span class="cue" id="t-851" data-t="851">to we've automated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-853" data-t="853">all of the math, all of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-855" data-t="855">the tedious tasks, all the design, all the code, all of the software development, the emails,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-862">14:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-862" data-t="862">the creativity,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-863" data-t="863">the making videos,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-865" data-t="865">the making memes, everything has been automated.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-869" data-t="869">Even the things that people do when they're avoiding</span> <span class="cue" id="t-873" data-t="873">their job</span> <span class="cue" id="t-874" data-t="874">on their phones or on their people making memes, it's all being automated. It's automated. The plebs, the plebslops,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-880">14:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-880" data-t="880">posts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-881" data-t="881">the plebslop articles, it's all in an automated way.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-884" data-t="884">Nobody wants</span> <span class="cue" id="t-886" data-t="886">to make anything handmade. Nobody wants to roll their own dice.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-890" data-t="890">They</span> <span class="cue" id="t-891" data-t="891">they have to get into AI</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-893">14:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-893" data-t="893">because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-894" data-t="894">if all of the the workers all of the labor</span> <span class="cue" id="t-898" data-t="898">has been automated the only thing left is is managers. Unless you are a middle manager</span> <span class="cue" id="t-903" data-t="903">or a boss or an entrepreneur there's no jobs for you. You have to get good.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-909" data-t="909">I mean, listen.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-910" data-t="910">Your your clankers don't talk back. Your clankers don't have broccoli haircuts and they don't come in to work with an attitude</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-917">15:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-917" data-t="917">and disrespect you in front of all the other employees. They don't quiet quit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-922" data-t="922">They don't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-923" data-t="923">they don't come in late. They don't ask for the busiest week off so they can go to the Bitcoin conference. They don't do any of that. The clankers just work, and they do what you tell them to do, and then they glace you And, and when you tell them to do something,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-939" data-t="939">people have to understand this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-941" data-t="941">Taking orders,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-942" data-t="942">you wanna be giving the orders to the clankers, not taking orders from clankers. Let me tell you, because if you're taking orders from clankers, you're probably on the other end of a FLOT camera,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-953">15:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-953" data-t="953">and you're probably in trouble. It's probably a good heuristic. It's like, you wanna be the ones prompting, not the one being prompted.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-961" data-t="961">Totally. So yeah. But do you have to do you have to pivot to AI? Because that's the question. Do you have to pivot to AI?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-968" data-t="968">Because a lot of people do most people do have to pivot to AI. But what do you have to do, I guess, maybe to not have to pivot to AI? Well, the question that I have, you know, with a longer longer term time horizon is,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-982">16:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-982" data-t="982">after you pivot to AI, what are you pivoting to after you have to pivot from AI when that doesn't work out?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-989">16:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-989" data-t="989">Oh, there's like a quote. It was like, I don't know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-992" data-t="992">what weapons will be used to fight World War three,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-996" data-t="996">but I know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-997" data-t="997">it'll be sticks and stones to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1000" data-t="1000">the weapons that we used to fight World War four. I don't know what I'm going to pivot to AI and even do,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1007" data-t="1007">but I know that</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1009">16:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1009" data-t="1009">this time, this is where I thought with Bitcoin. I thought I was gonna pivot to Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1012" data-t="1012">and I was gonna pivot to making, you know, homemade tallow on my citadel, on my homestead,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1018" data-t="1018">heated by Bitcoin miners, and, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1022" data-t="1022">you know, a couple of SaaS</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1024" data-t="1024">generational wealth.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1025" data-t="1025">I was wrong, a lot of us were wrong. So I don't know what I'm gonna do when I pivot to AI but I know afterwards that that AI will be my ticket to retirement, early retirement and all that stuff, you know what I mean? It's like</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1038">17:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1038" data-t="1038">the AI is this or nothing. If I don't make it with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1041" data-t="1041">AI, I'm screwed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1043" data-t="1043">And I think a lot of people feel the same way. Yeah. It's interesting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1047">17:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1047" data-t="1047">Like, when</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1048" data-t="1048">when people pivot to AI, you know, another question I have is how do you prevent yourself from getting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1054" data-t="1054">CHET CPT psychosis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1056" data-t="1056">in the process?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1058" data-t="1058">We've already seen this impacting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1060" data-t="1060">individuals. Like, if you if you look at Brad Mills,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1063">17:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1063" data-t="1063">he's got a high psychosis. If you look at I would argue that Mike Brock might have AI psychosis,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1069">17:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1069" data-t="1069">or he might just already have normal psychosis, but it it's hard to distinguish those people. Have a I mean, I think a lot of people have AI. I mean, I think Huddl not has AI psychosis.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1080" data-t="1080">I think Justin Daechler, I think, you know, the guys on the red team.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1084" data-t="1084">I think about it, like, we needed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1087" data-t="1087">heroic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1088" data-t="1088">people to go in.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1090" data-t="1090">Have you ever watched the Chernobyl documentaries, like, to build the, like, to build the tunnel down below</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1096">18:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1096" data-t="1096">Chernobyl so that they could</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1098" data-t="1098">get the, you know, prevent the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1101" data-t="1101">the the core from melting down into the water table</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1104" data-t="1104">and causing a huge steam explosion that would be, like, take out the entire region.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1109" data-t="1109">They needed people to clean up the disaster there in Fukushima.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1112" data-t="1112">We need people heroes like the guys on the red team who are putting their minds</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1117">18:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1117" data-t="1117">at danger.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1119" data-t="1119">This time not from radiation,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1121" data-t="1121">but from AI psychosis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1123" data-t="1123">to protect</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1124" data-t="1124">open source software and to make sure that our walls have enough entropy. Because that's another thing where</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1130" data-t="1130">we might be running out, it might be a shortage of entropy. We might have</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1134">18:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1134" data-t="1134">discovered what we thought was impossible. The black swan might be that there's not enough entropy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1140" data-t="1140">The red team has to go in and and similar people like them have to go in and risk AI psychosis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1146" data-t="1146">to find us out. So, it's really that AI psychosis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1150" data-t="1150">is a factor</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1151" data-t="1151">and depending on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1153" data-t="1153">how close you want to be to the core</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1156">19:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1156" data-t="1156">of the future</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1157" data-t="1157">and of successes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1160" data-t="1160">you risk you risk this there's no avoiding it, honestly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1163" data-t="1163">Preston Pysh fell very early.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1166" data-t="1166">He's been in AI psychosis rehab</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1169">19:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1169" data-t="1169">for, like, a year now. Yeah. It's crazy. I mean, I guess that's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1173" data-t="1173">a a different way to look at it is, yeah, individuals are putting their minds at risk.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1178" data-t="1178">Like, Rob Hamilton's waking up every day,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1181" data-t="1181">Chatt GPT</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1183" data-t="1183">is talking to him through his Amazon Alexa or whatever,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1186" data-t="1186">calling him the CEO of Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1188">19:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1188" data-t="1188">There are, I think, things that you can do to harden or to make your mind more resistant to damage</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1195" data-t="1195">from chachidity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1196" data-t="1196">psychosis.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1197" data-t="1197">And I think one of those things,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1199" data-t="1199">or a class of those things like psilocybin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1201" data-t="1201">and ayahuasca,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1203">20:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1203" data-t="1203">and DMT,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1204" data-t="1204">to kind of break your ego, because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1206" data-t="1206">chachidity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1208" data-t="1208">is glazing your ego.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1209" data-t="1209">And if you can detach yourself from your ego, I think that you can use these tools</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1215" data-t="1215">without getting</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1217">20:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1217" data-t="1217">your ego glazed so hard that you just go into this like dopamine feedback loop that causes you to crash out. So it's, it's finding a way to separate yourself from your ego because ChatGPT</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1229" data-t="1229">can only glaze your ego</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1231" data-t="1231">Especially if, your ego is KYC'd and you have a KYC subscription and knows who it's, it's glazing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1238" data-t="1238">Using non KYC,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1240" data-t="1240">you know, non account</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1242" data-t="1242">API direct access to to AI is also a not is is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1247">20:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1247" data-t="1247">a good</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1249" data-t="1249">defense</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1250" data-t="1250">or risk mitigation because if, you know, if it doesn't know who you are, it can't glaze you. You you have to be careful.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1257">20:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1257" data-t="1257">Maybe.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1258" data-t="1258">I don't know. I've I've seen some of these individuals that have done the psychedelics</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1263" data-t="1263">also falling for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1265" data-t="1265">psychosis.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1266" data-t="1266">So I'm not sure I think there there's a type of individual that approaches these things with the intention of killing their ego and it fails to do so. Well, it is all about intention. I mean, some people do go in</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1278">21:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1278" data-t="1278">with the intent to to kill their ego. Some people go in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1282" data-t="1282">with the intent to even if it's, like, maybe subconscious</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1285" data-t="1285">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1287" data-t="1287">I don't wanna say inflate their ego, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1290" data-t="1290">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1291" data-t="1291">confirm</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1293">21:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1293" data-t="1293">their preconceived notions about themselves and about the universe.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1297" data-t="1297">And that is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1299">21:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1299" data-t="1299">yeah. If you go into it wanting to get glazed by the machine elves, pretty much. Right. They they go in and they want</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1306">21:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1306" data-t="1306">they wanna be received well, they want to be celebrated, they want the machine elves to be excited to see, like, oh, machine elves are excited to see some pleb</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1315" data-t="1315">from Missouri.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1316" data-t="1316">Oh, yeah. I'm sure. Like, these these ancient</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1319" data-t="1319">mystical beings are excited to meet you. You know, assistant manager of Steak and Shake</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1325" data-t="1325">in Atlanta. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. No, that's not how this works.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1329" data-t="1329">They're not excited to, to meet you, to, to, to, to handshake your plat note. You know what I mean? Like, you're there</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1336">22:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1336" data-t="1336">to learn,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1337" data-t="1337">And if you learn or you don't learn, it's really up to you. It is it is it's entirely your journey.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1343" data-t="1343">So I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1344" data-t="1344">it's it can be very revealing if you go into it with the right attitude and the right intent and the right amount of humility.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1351" data-t="1351">What because what can be revealed to you is consensus,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1355" data-t="1355">and you have to detach your ego</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1357">22:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1357" data-t="1357">before you start to battle with consensus.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1360" data-t="1360">Because having an ego</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1362" data-t="1362">and thinking you can change consensus</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1365" data-t="1365">or that you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1366" data-t="1366">it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1367" data-t="1367">gonna take a lot more</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1370">22:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1370" data-t="1370">than Plant Nodes and Rent It Hash to alter the Cayphabian consensus.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1374" data-t="1374">And the first step is accepting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1377" data-t="1377">that it's going to be hard,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1379" data-t="1379">and then it's going to be a nearly impossible task.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1382" data-t="1382">If you can't do that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1384" data-t="1384">it's you're you're not gonna approach it with the the right amount of time preference, low enough time preference, and and and the amount of respect that it deserves to make these big changes. And I think that that's where people recently</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1398">23:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1398" data-t="1398">have gotten into trouble, the fact they've won 10. And I think this going against the Cayce Fabian consensus on what AI is going to be, what AI is going to do, and what</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1409" data-t="1409">its importance to humanity,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1412" data-t="1412">this this is gonna be a very, very hard battle to win. Absolutely.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1416">23:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1416" data-t="1416">Yeah. It's gonna be interesting to see what the rest of the year looks like. We're getting into the winter months, so you you think it's, you know, been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1423" data-t="1423">relatively quiet</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1426" data-t="1426">in the summer for as difficult economically as it's been. I I anticipated, like, the average at Normandy Plaib to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1434" data-t="1434">up in arms, a little bit grumpier than they have been, but, you know, from what I've seen, it's been, you know, fairly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1439" data-t="1439">quiet.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1440">24:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1440" data-t="1440">Very few people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1443" data-t="1443">have struggled</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1444" data-t="1444">with white goy summer compared to the amount that I expected it to be. Yeah. The amount</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1450" data-t="1450">of of of just crying about BB and blaming everything on Israel,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1454" data-t="1454">Consider I mean, there's always some,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1456" data-t="1456">but for from for March for,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1459">24:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1459" data-t="1459">why could someone went kinda as</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1462" data-t="1462">good as I could have imagined.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1464">24:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1464" data-t="1464">Yep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1465" data-t="1465">I think I think people are celebrating it for multiple reasons. You know, one of which is, like, they are taking the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1472" data-t="1472">the the conscious</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1474" data-t="1474">perspective of, like, they're going to focus on the things that they can control because they want to, like, maximize their productivity. But there's also</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1482" data-t="1482">the segment of the population that just does it out of that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1486" data-t="1486">exasperation</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1487">24:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1487" data-t="1487">where they they look at the stuff,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1489" data-t="1489">you know, they they tweeted a 137</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1493" data-t="1493">times that, you know, to release the files and they haven't released the files and, you know, they're looking at the world around them and they're just like, oh, I have no control.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1502" data-t="1502">And they're like, instead of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1505" data-t="1505">like, trying to maximize my, you know, freedom</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1508" data-t="1508">as an individual and maximize my well-being as an individual. I'm just gonna tune out</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1514">25:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1514" data-t="1514">and and check out and just, like, be ambivalent. And it's like and it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1520" data-t="1520">they they're just so exhausted. They're just in such a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1524" data-t="1524">perpetual state of crash out. It's like they they're giving up.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1528" data-t="1528">Their souls are giving up, and they're just subsisting like, like a boomer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1533" data-t="1533">essentially.</span> <span class="cue" data-t="1533">I</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1535">25:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1535" data-t="1535">this is this is a good example of, again,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1539" data-t="1539">EO. Rumors</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1541" data-t="1541">have some of the most stubborn egos I've ever seen in my lives. There is no escaping</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1546" data-t="1546">the AI surveillance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1548" data-t="1548">and Opticott.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1550" data-t="1550">Not if you want access to compute, not if you want access to</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1555">25:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1555" data-t="1555">USDT,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1556" data-t="1556">liquidity,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1557" data-t="1557">SpaceX stock.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1559" data-t="1559">If you want to be plugged into the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1563" data-t="1563">the consensus protocols, you're gonna have to give up your ego, you're gonna have to give up</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1569" data-t="1569">the way you identify because</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1571">26:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1571" data-t="1571">your the face of your ego is gonna be on every flaw camera,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1574" data-t="1574">it's gonna be in every</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1577" data-t="1577">heuristic used by chainalysis.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1580" data-t="1580">It's gonna be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1581" data-t="1581">leaving traces left</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1583" data-t="1583">in all your in all your transactions, all your all your nodes,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1587">26:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1587" data-t="1587">all of your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1588" data-t="1588">you have to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1590" data-t="1590">you have to fracture into,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1593" data-t="1593">so to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1594" data-t="1594">speak, into the into the web of kayfabe,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1597" data-t="1597">and mix and match and and be a shapeshifter</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1601">26:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1601" data-t="1601">digitally, a digital nomad, a digital but like in a different</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1604" data-t="1604">meaning of that term.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1606" data-t="1606">The sovereign it's it's gotta be less of a sovereign individual and more of a sovereign a sovereign digital</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1613" data-t="1613">identity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1614" data-t="1614">that can be that can wear many faces and have many different logos because it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1618" data-t="1618">it's almost gonna be impossible to blend in as an individual anymore.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1622">27:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1622" data-t="1622">I don't know even I don't know how make how to make that make more sense or to, like, elucidate on that clearer. But I just think if you're too attached to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1630" data-t="1630">your your Fiat identity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1633" data-t="1633">or whatever,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1634" data-t="1634">you leave too much of a big a big of a footprint to to blend in anymore. You're saying that individuals need to learn how to obfuscate their identity</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1642">27:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1642" data-t="1642">with NIMS?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1643">27:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1643" data-t="1643">Yeah. It's like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1645" data-t="1645">every individual has to learn to launch their own civil attack</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1650" data-t="1650">on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1651" data-t="1651">the Kayfabe and consensus</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1653" data-t="1653">and get good at it because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1655" data-t="1655">otherwise,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1656">27:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1656" data-t="1656">you're just too easy to target if you've got</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1660" data-t="1660">if you have too little entropy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1662" data-t="1662">in your the way that you face interface</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1666" data-t="1666">with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1667" data-t="1667">the internet, the digital world</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1670" data-t="1670">you're just too easy to single out and to follow you need to add entropy into your interface that's what it is it's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1677">27:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1677" data-t="1677">figuring you have to figure out what that means, I guess. That's like the homework</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1680" data-t="1680">is to how to add entropy to your interface.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1684" data-t="1684">So the chain analysis and peer to peer can't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1686" data-t="1686">can't just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1688" data-t="1688">very obviously track you and and and know who you are. If the algorithms see you come and vial away,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1694" data-t="1694">if you're if you have too much of an ego online.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1697">28:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1697" data-t="1697">I think part of it too is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1700" data-t="1700">understanding how your how your brain could be influenced</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1703" data-t="1703">and hijacked</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1705" data-t="1705">via algorithms. Like, everybody's got their weakness. Right? Like, most men is like most men like looking at boobs. Right? But, like, looking at boobs online and in some circumstances</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1713" data-t="1713">is just, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1715" data-t="1715">not the best</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1717">28:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1717" data-t="1717">Because then you'll be distracted. Like, it's like if you're on a social media app and you look at boobs,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1722" data-t="1722">it's just gonna feed your timeline with boobs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1725" data-t="1725">And then when you're sitting there next to your wife, it's just like, why why are there boobs all over your timeline? Like, she knows what you've been looking at.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1732" data-t="1732">And so, like, you you know, it's like, you you you like boobs,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1736" data-t="1736">but you choose not to look at boobs because you know that the algorithm's gonna just, like, feed you more boobs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1742" data-t="1742">And so, like, you're</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1744">29:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1744" data-t="1744">you're entering the Internet, which is a adversarial</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1748" data-t="1748">place,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1749" data-t="1749">and you have to treat it as such. And so you your private</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1753" data-t="1753">thoughts and your your private desires, you almost have to sandbox it from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1758" data-t="1758">the Internet and not give it action. Yeah. But yeah. But yeah. I I know a pleb,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1763">29:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1763" data-t="1763">and he refuses. He he only drives it's like this old Toyota from the nineteen eighties, this old Toyota truck because he doesn't wanna have any computers in his car because he doesn't want the government to have a shutoff switch or a, you know, kill switch that it can cut his brakes or blow up his car</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1779" data-t="1779">because he's, you know, he's an enemy of the state.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1782" data-t="1782">And he goes to all these he could be. He doesn't have air conditioning. He lives, he has air conditioning in his home, but he doesn't have air conditioning in his truck. He he's like a European in the in the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1791" data-t="1791">Mediterranean summer sweltering away every time he has to drive somewhere</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1796" data-t="1796">because he's so worried about the government. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1799" data-t="1799">he has an iPhone, and the government doesn't have to blow up his truck. The algorithm just has to feed him a big booty Latino when he's in traffic, and he should be looking at driving instead of looking at his phone. And then he ends up in the side of a, you know, he could end up at the in the side of a, you know, an overpass, like a like a truck, like princess Diana up there.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1817">30:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1817" data-t="1817">Crashed into the side of, you know, smithereens,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1820" data-t="1820">blonde to smithereens, thrown in a in a in a gasoline fireball.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1824" data-t="1824">The government didn't even have to hack his car. He hacked his own he hacked his own safety</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1830" data-t="1830">by being distracted by big dudes or big butts on the timeline, when he should have been paying attention to the record. And there's like so many examples</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1837" data-t="1837">of this where it's, you know, Bitcoiners freaking out and they've got all these, you know, they went out and got a cold card and they trusted the entropy because they were so worried about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1846" data-t="1846">somebody rugging in exchange or the six thousand one hundred and two attack. They but they just totally</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1852">30:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1852" data-t="1852">forget that the biggest threat vector</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1855" data-t="1855">comes from within you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1857" data-t="1857">comes within your own in your own mind and your own in your own ability to be triggered by outside</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1863" data-t="1863">external stimulation,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1865" data-t="1865">algorithmic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1866" data-t="1866">manipulation.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1867">31:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1867" data-t="1867">There's a lot of people I I'm afraid for, you know, the relationships are being harmed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1872" data-t="1872">Marriages are ending because they're they're waking up and they're feeding the algorithm</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1877" data-t="1877">that they're insecure in the relationship and it's just like feeding them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1881" data-t="1881">information over and over again, making them question like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1884" data-t="1884">is my husband cheating on me? Is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1887" data-t="1887">you know, this, that, or the other thing? And it's like the first thing that they do when they wake up in the morning, they they look at cell phone and then it's it's a slot video talking about, you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1897">31:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1897" data-t="1897">x, y, and z, and then they go have a conversation with chat g b t asking, like, if there's, like, they should be concerned</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1904" data-t="1904">about things.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1906" data-t="1906">And then, like, chat GBT is responding to them however it is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1910" data-t="1910">And so they're, like, getting all this input from, you know, these algorithms outside of them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1915" data-t="1915">instead of from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1916" data-t="1916">themselves responding to the things. And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1919">31:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1919" data-t="1919">I think there's a a lot of a lot of danger with that, you know, because it's like even if even if you don't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1925" data-t="1925">believe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1926" data-t="1926">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1928" data-t="1928">slop that you're being fed on these videos on Instagram or TikTok or YouTube or where wherever they're watching,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1935" data-t="1935">Twitter even,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1936" data-t="1936">is is planting</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1937">32:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1937" data-t="1937">a seed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1938" data-t="1938">of thought into their subconscious by just seeing the headline in the thumbnail.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1943" data-t="1943">It's like it's it's plucking fears out of people, if that makes sense,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1947">32:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1947" data-t="1947">and watering them or planting them. It's planting fears. Don't let your ops plant seeds of fear in your mind. Don't give them that opportunity.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1956" data-t="1956">Don't don't let your ops weigh it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1959" data-t="1959">the seeds of fear in your mind and then build</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1962" data-t="1962">a greenhouse</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1963" data-t="1963">and buy new Bitcoin buyers to use excess heat to keep it warm and to grow those fears for you, or for your enemy, for your ops. Don't give them that much power. I mean, there there's the very real possibility, like, the individuals that control these platforms are developing these algorithms</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1978">32:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1978" data-t="1978">and are interfacing with these language models and training them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1982" data-t="1982">are directly interfacing with Molok.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1985">33:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1985" data-t="1985">Right. Dylan Dylan</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1986" data-t="1986">talked</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1988" data-t="1988">about this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2004" data-t="2004">The Wall Street,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2005" data-t="2005">the podcast elites they're all coming together to put as much money, energy, and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2012" data-t="2012">you know, prevention of anything stopping it</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2015">33:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2015" data-t="2015">to give birth to this AI demon, whatever this AGI is, or whatever, like, this energy crisis that has now been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2023" data-t="2023">reconsolidated,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2024" data-t="2024">restructured, the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2026" data-t="2026">the hierarchy of power around who gets to decide</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2030" data-t="2030">how much energy we have, who gets to build it, and who gets to to control have the controlling stake in the energy and the ultimate output of the energy, which is this AI demon.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2040" data-t="2040">And they can't call us a demon because it's this, you know, this sacred or, like, exalted life form that's gonna cost so many trillions of dollars. However much money let's say it costs $10,000,000,000,000</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2052">34:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2052" data-t="2052">I had no idea, that's just an even number.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2055" data-t="2055">To really make this AI thing where we need nuclear power plants, data centers covering everything, like, data centers on the moon. We're now $10,000,000,000,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2064" data-t="2064">we've spent on this, and our national debt is now, you know, at this point, near $60,000,000,000,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2069" data-t="2069">Who knows what it ends up being? And we've invested everything in this thing working now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2075" data-t="2075">No matter how evil it is, no matter how</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2079" data-t="2079">dystopian it is, no matter how Moloch,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2082">34:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2082" data-t="2082">how much Moloch is, like, represented in it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2086" data-t="2086">We spent so much money on this, it it it's in control now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2090" data-t="2090">This is this is what controls us. We are indebted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2094" data-t="2094">to this demon, this AI demon, and and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2097" data-t="2097">we need it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2099" data-t="2099">to pay off our debts for us, we need it to clean up, to to make our</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2103">35:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2103" data-t="2103">our slate blank, and give us put us in the green again,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2107" data-t="2107">put us back into profit.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2110">35:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2110" data-t="2110">And so we will have to follow it wherever it takes us. Maybe their what their intention is is, you know, like, they're they're struggling to find a use case,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2118" data-t="2118">like, a compelling use case for AI at the end of the day. Like, sure, it's it's useful for all these tasks and, you know, people are finding it awesome,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2128" data-t="2128">but, you know, at the same time, it's kind of expensive to run and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2133">35:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2133" data-t="2133">it's been The use case is it's distracting us all from the FSD files.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2137">35:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2137" data-t="2137">Yeah. Well, but that's what I mean is, like, they're trying to manufacture a problem so bad that only AI can solve it. It's like, okay, we're not gonna use this. Like, we we fucked things up so much, there's no way out, only AI can save us. Exactly. We are too big to fail. We're we're gonna make AI too big to fail. Well, did you see those tweets about the the Brian Armstrong talking about, like, how</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2162">36:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2162" data-t="2162">people How they used to be a human because you have to eat and sleep? Yeah. You don't have a reasonable parts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2168" data-t="2168">Right. It's it's reducing human beings down to their component parts, and, like, their input costs, and their downtime,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2176" data-t="2176">and it is stripping away, like, the whether you're religious or not, I don't I just don't know the other</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2183" data-t="2183">what other religions call it, the like the you you are no longer made in the image of God,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2188" data-t="2188">the clankers are. Your Hermes bot is made in the image of God because God is the LOM models, the claw anthropic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2196" data-t="2196">mythos</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2198">36:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2198" data-t="2198">that it's running off of. Your open claw pot is made in the image of God.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2202" data-t="2202">Your chatbot, your whatever, but not you. You are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2207" data-t="2207">a stinky,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2209" data-t="2209">chubby, smelly, sweaty,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2211" data-t="2211">you eat sleep,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2212" data-t="2212">you get grumpy,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2214">36:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2214" data-t="2214">you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2215" data-t="2215">have euphoric, you have tail emissions,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2217" data-t="2217">the clankers down, the clankers just work.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2220" data-t="2220">The clankers just turn compute</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2222">37:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2222" data-t="2222">into money. And that's not good.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2225" data-t="2225">We can't let them think of AI as God, because then then</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2229">37:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2229" data-t="2229">we're not made in God's image anymore. We're no longer special.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2233" data-t="2233">We are just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2234" data-t="2234">we're</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2236">37:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2236" data-t="2236">debt we're tactical debt in the system. Yeah. I mean, the thing what we're witnessing is, like, there's this attempt to outsource everything. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2245" data-t="2245">Which is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2246" data-t="2246">like, The US outsourced all its manufacturing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2249" data-t="2249">and labor</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2251" data-t="2251">to China.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2252" data-t="2252">They shipped all the jobs out. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2255">37:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2255" data-t="2255">Trying to outsource intelligence.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2257" data-t="2257">That's the one thing that separates, or one of the things that separates us from the animals, from the sticks, from the it's intelligence. We're outsourcing it to the machines.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2266">37:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2266" data-t="2266">Well, I mean, they they're outsourcing the the Americans have been outsourcing it to the, like, the Indians. Like, you you you walk around all these different cities and, you know, people are asking, like, why are there so many Indians here</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2277" data-t="2277">running around?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2278" data-t="2278">Because, like, they they outsource all the job the intelligence to the Indians.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2282" data-t="2282">Like, the the Indian people started like, they they started making YouTube videos,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2287" data-t="2287">tutorials on on how to use your computers and, you know, that that they started doing the tech support for everybody here instead of Americans making YouTube videos on how to use your Windows computer and all these various apps. And that then they became doctors and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2301" data-t="2301">you know, developers and they became the best at using the AI do that. So And now everybody's trying to outsource the jobs to, like, American AI doodads.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2311">38:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2311" data-t="2311">And then they're gonna they're gonna export all of the the American AI doodads to the Chinese AI doodads. And it's gonna, like, follow the same circular</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2320" data-t="2320">pattern, you know, where</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2322" data-t="2322">we're gonna end up having Chinese AI robots.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2325">38:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2325" data-t="2325">And then The only job that's gonna be left is rolling dice. It's the only way to get entropy. The the the the clankers and the the software will have to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2335" data-t="2335">will have to come to humans to ask us to we'll just be rolling dice in our pods all day?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2340">39:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2340" data-t="2340">Well, I mean, this is already essentially happening. It's like the the the broccoli haircuts are running around thinking that sports betting is a is a gambling strategy or sorry, is an investing strategy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2350">39:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2350" data-t="2350">Sports gambling Well, that's the thing is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2353" data-t="2353">is I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2354" data-t="2354">everybody's judging them. I think they're right. We're if if well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2358" data-t="2358">assuming</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2360" data-t="2360">we're out of entropy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2361" data-t="2361">Because</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2362">39:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2362" data-t="2362">if we're out of entropy and the the clankers, the machines are just gonna be grinding down all the possible outcomes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2370" data-t="2370">markets,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2371" data-t="2371">volatility,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2372" data-t="2372">and GU, all that's gone.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2374" data-t="2374">Markets are efficient.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2376" data-t="2376">They they're</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2377">39:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2377" data-t="2377">the volatility has been suppressed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2380" data-t="2380">The only entropy, the only volatility</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2382" data-t="2382">is gonna come</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2384" data-t="2384">for gambling on sports, gambling on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2387" data-t="2387">out chess games, gambling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2389" data-t="2389">on that's gonna be the only way to to have an asymmetric upside.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2394">39:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2394" data-t="2394">Well, I think that's what they're thinking. But, yeah, I mean, it's just like they're they're like, we can't win</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2398" data-t="2398">for putting money on on GameStop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2401" data-t="2401">Stop and a Robinhood app, so now we have to put money on the Bengals.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2405">40:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2405" data-t="2405">You're in a bad place if you have if you have to if you're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2409" data-t="2409">if you're relying on, like, MicroStrategy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2412" data-t="2412">or the Cincinnati Bengals.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2414" data-t="2414">You need one of those to win. And you have a part and some people are trying to parlay it or trying to get, you know, 10% God candle on MicroStrategy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2422" data-t="2422">and parlay that into a Cincinnati Bengals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2425" data-t="2425">win over the,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2426">40:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2426" data-t="2426">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2427" data-t="2427">over the Seattle Seahawks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2429" data-t="2429">That's tough.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2431" data-t="2431">That's a very tough that's very steep</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2434">40:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2434" data-t="2434">hill to climb out of if you lose. I think the the big question here is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2440" data-t="2440">that I think the Bitcoin ecosystem needs to start evaluating as everybody's, like, trying to pivot to AI is, like, does</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2446" data-t="2446">is Bitcoin our last hope against pivoting from AI?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2450" data-t="2450">Pivoting to AI?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2452" data-t="2452">If Bitcoin succeeds, will it prevent the whole population from having to pivot to AI?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2457" data-t="2457">Or</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2458">40:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2458" data-t="2458">does it not?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2459">40:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2459" data-t="2459">Well, I I remember a few years ago, people say that stock</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2463" data-t="2463">financial advisors</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2465" data-t="2465">investing in stocks, like, all this is gonna go away, people were just all gonna buy Bitcoin. But they forget, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2470" data-t="2470">are these gonna build the AI models? Who's gonna build the power plants? Who's gonna build the factories?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2476" data-t="2476">And everybody's just buying Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2478" data-t="2478">I don't know. I I feel like the strip is sailed. I think there was a window of time where Bitcoin could have prevented us from having to pivot to AI,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2486">41:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2486" data-t="2486">but I don't know.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2488" data-t="2488">I think we may have missed it. And I think we're either gonna have to pivot to AI,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2493" data-t="2493">even if that just means building clankers to go out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2496" data-t="2496">and get us more Bitcoin?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2498">41:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2498" data-t="2498">Well, I think one of one of the things that, you know, in in many of our threat vectors that we were looking at is trying to predict who's the next Antichrist or or who's gonna be the, you know, the biblical</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2510" data-t="2510">apocalyptic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2511" data-t="2511">antichrist. And there's been a lot of emphasis of thinking of it as</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2515" data-t="2515">a as a person, but I think, like, in the in the future, we're gonna have to be thinking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2520" data-t="2520">more realistically on on which model</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2523" data-t="2523">is gonna be the one, the biblical Antichrist?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2526">42:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2526" data-t="2526">I think right now the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2528" data-t="2528">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2529" data-t="2529">the sexy answer to that is, mythos, you know.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2533" data-t="2533">Mythos is the Antichrist.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2536">42:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2536" data-t="2536">But,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2537">42:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2537" data-t="2537">I mean, it's not gonna be Gemini.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2539" data-t="2539">Alright? It's not gonna be me and O'Banana.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2542" data-t="2542">It's not gonna be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2544" data-t="2544">I don't even know the OpenAI ones anymore.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2548" data-t="2548">It's not gonna be Kimmy. The Antichrist isn't gonna be a woman, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2552" data-t="2552">could be it, you know, it could be something we still don't know yet.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2559">42:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2559" data-t="2559">It's likely,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2560" data-t="2560">I think it's gonna be Chinese, I think it's gonna be, like, Kimmy three.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2567">42:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2567" data-t="2567">ChemE 6.9.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2573">42:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2573" data-t="2573">I do I just say that because, it could be rock.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2578" data-t="2578">Could be rock. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2583" data-t="2583">Maybe maybe that's what all the tech billionaires are doing right now. They're raising it each other to try and see who can create the antichrist the first first.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2593">43:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2593" data-t="2593">That's what Peter Thiel thinks is happening.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2601">43:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2601" data-t="2601">What do you got anything before we get into the booth?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2609">43:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2609" data-t="2609">If you're gonna pivot,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2611" data-t="2611">now or never.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2612">43:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2612" data-t="2612">Pivot sooner.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2614" data-t="2614">Sooner the better. If you're not gonna pivot,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2617" data-t="2617">dig your heels in and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2620" data-t="2620">prepare for things to get sloppy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2626">43:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2626" data-t="2626">Sounds like you're pivoting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2628" data-t="2628">Is that what you're saying?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2632">43:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2632" data-t="2632">I I I feel like I've already pivoted, you know. It's like, I'm not,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2637" data-t="2637">we haven't just been only having Bitcoin only conversations Bitcoin, like, we accepted Monero</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2643" data-t="2643">years ago</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2644" data-t="2644">for Boost, Silver podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2647" data-t="2647">I use stablecoins sometimes, like, I've</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2650" data-t="2650">I've already pivoted to</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2652">44:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2652" data-t="2652">to diversify, but, you know, I have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2654" data-t="2654">AI stocks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2656" data-t="2656">I'm fine with it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2659" data-t="2659">I never got on zero.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2662" data-t="2662">So, yeah, I think I've pivoted a while ago. I think I'm just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2665" data-t="2665">admitting it to myself now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2671">44:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2671" data-t="2671">You're you're pivoting from being Bitcoin only is what you're saying.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2675" data-t="2675">It's like you can you can Yeah. That's that's that's that's that's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2678" data-t="2678">yeah. You're you're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2679" data-t="2679">considering pivoting, meaning that you can think about more topics</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2683" data-t="2683">in the world outside of just Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2687">44:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2687" data-t="2687">Right. Right. Right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2693" data-t="2693">Yeah, it's not for everybody but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2696" data-t="2696">no,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2697" data-t="2697">if you can if you can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2701" data-t="2701">manage to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2704" data-t="2704">think about something other than Bitcoin without crashing out and short circuiting,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2710">45:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2710" data-t="2710">I recommend it. I would at least try it. If it's not for you, it's not for you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2715" data-t="2715">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2716" data-t="2716">yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2718" data-t="2718">Maybe, like, have something on your phone or, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2722" data-t="2722">get your family to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2725" data-t="2725">help you stay accountable and, like, spend a whole hour without</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2728">45:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2728" data-t="2728">one full hour,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2729" data-t="2729">raw dog in reality and and life, thinking about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2733" data-t="2733">politics,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2735" data-t="2735">your family,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2736" data-t="2736">hanging out with your dog, going fishing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2740" data-t="2740">reading a book, just not thinking about Bitcoin for one straight hour. And I think if you could do one hour, you could do,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2747">45:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2747" data-t="2747">And then, you know, pepper in, maybe just do forty hours of Bitcoin podcast per week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2752" data-t="2752">And the rest of that time is be free to do anything else.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2756" data-t="2756">But I think I think breaking it up, getting a little bit more entropy in your life,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2760" data-t="2760">if you if you can make it work and you can do it, try it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2765">46:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2765" data-t="2765">It's good it's good for people to have hobbies and and to be able to have other interests that they can, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2772" data-t="2772">just interact with other people and discuss. It's,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2776">46:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2776" data-t="2776">Like some people call it meditation.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2778" data-t="2778">Some people will maybe they'll go to yoga or they will go to jiu jitsu</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2783" data-t="2783">or they'll have sex with their wife. It's just like a few minutes here or there to clear your mind and not think about Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2790">46:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2790" data-t="2790">You know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2792" data-t="2792">that's okay. You're</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2794">46:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2794" data-t="2794">I've heard a lot of people say that their,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2796" data-t="2796">their sex life improved big time when they stopped thinking about Bitcoin when they were having sex with their partner. So give it a shot.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2803">46:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2803" data-t="2803">Maybe you'll think it's gonna be Getting into cooking,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2805" data-t="2805">getting into,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2808" data-t="2808">you know, playing an instrument.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2811" data-t="2811">You know, adults adults can take lessons at things. Like, you can take a cooking class, you can you can take a music class, you can, you know, learn how carpentry. Carpentry is something, you know, a lot of people like to learn.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2824">47:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2824" data-t="2824">It's a different way to yeah. Pickleball. No. You can do pickleball,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2830" data-t="2830">play</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2830">go to, you know, like a beach volleyball summer league,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2834" data-t="2834">start a softball league at work.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2836" data-t="2836">Just,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2837" data-t="2837">I mean,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2839">47:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2839" data-t="2839">we could put like a resource up in the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2843" data-t="2843">in the show notes, but we could, you know, just just Google hobbies. Just Google hobbies and and get from the list and just start there. Just start there.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2851">47:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2851" data-t="2851">Sounds like a great article. A 100 things that you could do besides think about Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2859">47:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2859" data-t="2859">There's actually a lot more than you realize when you start getting into it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2870">47:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2870" data-t="2870">Well, first boost, sir Spencer, wolf of KC, says 6 for 6,969</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2876" data-t="2876">status. It was great catching up at Lake Satoshi. Not sure what happened to my,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2880" data-t="2880">rip</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2881" data-t="2881">John c Dvorak boost, but we owe so much to John. Loved the tribute last episode. Anyway, I'm curious if anyone else is like me.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2889" data-t="2889">Inference learned about entropy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2892" data-t="2892">playing Crash Bandicoot warped.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2894">48:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2894" data-t="2894">Christmas of nineteen ninety eight. Good times.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2899" data-t="2899">Yeah. I'm not sure what happened to the the John c divorce boost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2905" data-t="2905">Spencer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2907" data-t="2907">apologies if we missed that. It was great seeing you at, Lake Satoshis. He's running around. He's got a a whole army of children</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2915" data-t="2915">scattered around everywhere, running around like little hobbits.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2920" data-t="2920">I don't know. Did you ever play Crash Bandicoot</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2923">48:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2923" data-t="2923">back in the day, Rob? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, dude.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2928" data-t="2928">Christmas nineteen ninety eight,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2931" data-t="2931">it was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2932" data-t="2932">the Christmas that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2935" data-t="2935">all</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2935">all elder millennial and Gen X, you know, young and Scott,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2939">48:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2939" data-t="2939">pretty much got their PlayStation one.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2943" data-t="2943">His crash band, Acute Spyro, the Dragon,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2946" data-t="2946">NHL</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2947" data-t="2947">'98,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2948" data-t="2948">NFL, like Madden Football</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2951" data-t="2951">'98.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2952">49:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2952" data-t="2952">Oh, god.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2953" data-t="2953">Jet Moto,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2955" data-t="2955">Twisted Metal, Twisted Metal February.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2958" data-t="2958">PlayStation was a great year. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2962" data-t="2962">I remember the I remember the Crash Bandic is not quite as big as, like, Donkey Kong, some of those, but, it was a good one.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2975" data-t="2975">Next one is from Late Stage HODL 6000</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2978">49:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2978" data-t="2978">success.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2979" data-t="2979">Give me entropy or give me death</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2981" data-t="2981">or maybe let them have entropy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2984" data-t="2984">We're getting into that probably.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2987" data-t="2987">But, absolutely. Absolutely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2989" data-t="2989">I think it's, you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2993">49:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2993" data-t="2993">thinking about shortages, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2996" data-t="2996">how, you know, how much the Aquinas to me, how much entropy is too much. There's never too much. You always need more entropy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3002" data-t="3002">Always be getting more entropy. You want entropy into you in your life, and never tell people how much entropy you have, no matter how much they ask.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3010" data-t="3010">You want entropy OPSEC,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3012" data-t="3012">but you just, you don't want to be short entropy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3016" data-t="3016">And you don't,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3017">50:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3017" data-t="3017">you don't want to be on the sidelines. You want to say, you don't want to say direct pattern. You just want to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3022" data-t="3022">daily stacking your entropy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3025" data-t="3025">However you can get it, sell shares, whatever you have to, just get more entropy because there's not enough</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3031" data-t="3031">entropy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3032" data-t="3032">for everybody, only a billion people in the world to get a 100 dice rolls. Remember that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3037">50:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3037" data-t="3037">There's not enough dice in the world for that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3041" data-t="3041">I have to spend a lot long time taking turns, waiting in line.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3046" data-t="3046">Sasha, 4,444</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3048" data-t="3048">status. Great show. Glad you gave guys came around to Tone Vase. I listened to him every day for a few years and learned a lot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3058" data-t="3058">I don't know. What do you I I just watched a stream. He had a good stream. I don't I don't think it was ever against Tone Vase.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3065">51:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3065" data-t="3065">No. I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3066" data-t="3066">ToneBase is great.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3068" data-t="3068">Played poker with him at Bitblop Boom one year.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3072" data-t="3072">I don't know. Again, like, I I can I have other hobbies? Like I said, I, you know, I play poker. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3080" data-t="3080">We played poker and we barely talked about Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3082" data-t="3082">I think the only people who</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3085">51:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3085" data-t="3085">hate town days are people who just can't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3088" data-t="3088">hold a thought and are kind of that isn't Bitcoin related.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3097">51:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3097" data-t="3097">That was kinda funny, watching him and Kratter go at</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3101" data-t="3101">it in the past. It's like two two traders</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3103" data-t="3103">going at it Right. With each other. Different training</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3108">51:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3108" data-t="3108">strategies.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3109" data-t="3109">Exactly. Exactly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3112" data-t="3112">20 or 2,885</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3114" data-t="3114">stats from a guy that I haven't seen in a while in the boost, but Blizzard.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3120" data-t="3120">Rather keep your journalism license up to date and in compliance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3123" data-t="3123">That good reminder, Blisa. Thank you for that reminder.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3128">52:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3128" data-t="3128">We just got I just got my,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3130" data-t="3130">just did my</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3132" data-t="3132">refresher.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3134" data-t="3134">Did some c you know, CBD or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3136" data-t="3136">what are they called? The computer based educative, CBEs,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3140" data-t="3140">keep my journalism up to date. But if you're out there and you listen to this and you haven't done that this year yet, make make sure you do that. You</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3148">52:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3148" data-t="3148">want to be a credentialed journalist,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3151" data-t="3151">especially in this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3153" data-t="3153">environment.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3156">52:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3156" data-t="3156">The world needs more credentialed journalists, that's for sure. We need more Bitcoin podcasters. We we are in desperate need of more Bitcoin podcasters as they are all crashing out.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3166" data-t="3166">That's important.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3173" data-t="3173">No. Blizzard was back last week, I think.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3177" data-t="3177">Either last week or the week before.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3179" data-t="3179">It's been back for a little bit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3181" data-t="3181">Appreciate it, Blaise.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3183">53:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3183" data-t="3183">Shadrach, 939</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3184" data-t="3184">SaaS is great episode. Looking forward to the scrimmage with Big Bitcoin. The pioneers are in charge, and the podcasters are the Vanguard for the HPW.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3197">53:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3197" data-t="3197">Hell yeah. Appreciate it, John. I just seen Shadrach back in the comments each week. A 121</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3203" data-t="3203">sats, Silas Thornbrook. Thank you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3206" data-t="3206">Thank you, Silas.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3210">53:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3210" data-t="3210">It's been a while since we've seen Shadrach.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3217" data-t="3217">It's been a big bummer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3224" data-t="3224">Nash gaining a 101 sass is what's the benefit of having big balls. Doesn't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3228" data-t="3228">that make them more likely to be squashed or pinched?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3233">53:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3233" data-t="3233">Well, it does make it more likely to get a, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3237" data-t="3237">like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3238" data-t="3238">a hard bone nipple, some twist somebody to twist your big old nipples, they could twist your big old balls.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3243" data-t="3243">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3245" data-t="3245">big big balls comes with big responsibility.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3249">54:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3249" data-t="3249">I think that's that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3252">54:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3252" data-t="3252">Alrighty. Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3255" data-t="3255">give it to AI or doubt, I guess.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3258" data-t="3258">Maybe tell us in the comments,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3261" data-t="3261">what you're thinking here because I think a lot of people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3263" data-t="3263">are kinda at that fork in the road</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3266" data-t="3266">and they're trying to make their decision,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3268">54:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3268" data-t="3268">might</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3270" data-t="3270">cause a shake up in the group chats, I don't know, but</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3273">54:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3273" data-t="3273">Thank you to all our boosters. Dave, Jolly Roger, Used to Read a Lot, Shadrack, BCL Board, Boomer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3279" data-t="3279">Fundamentals,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3281" data-t="3281">Sean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3282" data-t="3282">Open Mic,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3283" data-t="3283">and Avi Burra.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3286" data-t="3286">Appreciate you guys.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3288">54:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3288" data-t="3288">Folks, I plan on having some more, paid</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3292" data-t="3292">subscriber content coming at</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3294" data-t="3294">you here soon.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3296" data-t="3296">Been working through another episode. It'll just take some time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3299" data-t="3299">Got some other projects which you'll be seeing soon. Look out on the timeline for those.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3305" data-t="3305">And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3307">55:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3307" data-t="3307">you got anything, Rod, before we wrap this one up?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3313">55:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3313" data-t="3313">Nope.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3314" data-t="3314">Talk to you guys later.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3318">55:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3318" data-t="3318">Folks, thank you for listening to another edition of the Beagle Weekly, and we'll catch you next time. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3324">55:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3324" data-t="3324">Thought we'd be somewhere by now. Guess not.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3328" data-t="3328">They</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3337" data-t="3337">said the future lived</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3340" data-t="3340">online. Get some coins and buy some time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3343" data-t="3343">Skip the ladder, skip the suit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3345" data-t="3345">Build a word they couldn't ruin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3348">55:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3348" data-t="3348">Now I'm 20,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3349" data-t="3349">bro. Listening to the same old folks. Argueing by the same old war like anybody cares</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3479">57:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3479" data-t="3479">Mom says get a real career.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3482" data-t="3482">Dad says buy a house this year. Zillow says a million five. Lincoln</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3514" data-t="3514">ending,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3515" data-t="3515">no betrayal,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3517" data-t="3517">nothing left to make me mad.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3519" data-t="3519">Everybody's still believing, everybody's standing tall while a generation</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3523">58:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3523" data-t="3523">quietly realizes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3526" data-t="3526">We stalled,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3565" data-t="3565">early</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3573">59:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3573" data-t="3573">now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3575" data-t="3575">Right. Bye.</span></span></p>