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   +title: "Transcript: ABC: Always Be Complying | Bugle Weekly Episode 2"
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   +date: 2024-04-02
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-0">0:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kailey Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-0" data-t="0">Warning. Listeners may find the following podcast disturbing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-5" data-t="5">If you are a noncompliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-6" data-t="6">individual who believes in people's ability to make choices for themselves,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-11" data-t="11">stop listening now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-14" data-t="14">This podcast is reserved only for those who comply with applicable local laws and are willing to sacrifice their selfish desires for obedience</span> <span class="cue" id="t-24" data-t="24">in order to promote the greater good.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-27">0:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kailey Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-27" data-t="27">Listener discretion</span> <span class="cue" id="t-28" data-t="28">is advised.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-29">0:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-29" data-t="29">The Bugle</span> <span class="cue" id="t-31" data-t="31">is the world's premier news agency.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-35" data-t="35">They are the Bitcoin standard of news.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-39" data-t="39">Dieter is a pussy and lying sack of shit. I can't believe that Geist wanna upset me in the elite. Eight. I can't wait for next year. I'm coming back with bots. I would have won if I went on Peter's podcast at least three more times. I like Bitcoin, so and I don't know why they didn't put me on the bracket. If they did, I would have easily won. I am the best Bitcoiner in the world. Now buy my ordnance. Come. Never trust a yellow cat. I'm seriously upset that I did not win March Maxi Madness.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-66">1:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-66" data-t="66">I am the king of the PodConf and deserve the recognition.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-69" data-t="69">Do you think we would have had such strong price appreciation if it wasn't for me?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-73">1:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-73" data-t="73">The Bugle is easily the most important journalistic institution around today.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-78" data-t="78">They make up literally everything they write, and yet it is somehow all true.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-83">1:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-83" data-t="83">Now you all better let the Google do the thinking for you. Life is too damn hard to do all the thinking yourself.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-94">1:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-94" data-t="94">So, Rod,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-95" data-t="95">I was thinking that we should turn this into, like, a long form podcast like Lex Fridman has because he's so brilliant.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-103" data-t="103">Yeah. I think that's a really good idea.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-107">1:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-107" data-t="107">But the best thing about podcasts are when they're like three or four hours long.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-112" data-t="112">You just monotonously</span> <span class="cue" id="t-113" data-t="113">talk about a really specific niche topic. I think that's how you grow your audience most effectively.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-121">2:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-121" data-t="121">Yeah, I mean, the really nice part about having a podcast that long is how many advertisements that you can fit into it.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-129">2:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-129" data-t="129">That's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-130" data-t="130">true. The AudCon is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-133" data-t="133">a giant monster, and the only way to defeat them is to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-138" data-t="138">get enough sponsors.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-140" data-t="140">Sponsors for your podcast and then to basically make enough money to take them down. If you can get,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-147" data-t="147">you know, any kind of words</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-149">2:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-149" data-t="149">worth of commercials or ads in your four hour podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-153" data-t="153">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-154" data-t="154">is like a month's worth of ads</span> <span class="cue" id="t-156" data-t="156">on what Bitcoin did.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-161">2:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-161" data-t="161">So speaking of what Bitcoin did,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-163" data-t="163">I'm calling it right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-165" data-t="165">I guarantee that as we progress into the bull market, Peter McCormick's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-170" data-t="170">podcast episodes are gonna become progressively longer.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-175">2:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-175" data-t="175">That's something to start paying attention to.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-178" data-t="178">We should timestamp whatever</span> <span class="cue" id="t-179" data-t="179">let's look go back and look at what how long his podcast episodes were in December,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-185" data-t="185">right before the ETFs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-187" data-t="187">were approved,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-188" data-t="188">And they compare</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-189">3:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-189" data-t="189">what they are over the course of the rest of this year and how many natives</span> <span class="cue" id="t-195" data-t="195">are dedicated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-196" data-t="196">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-197" data-t="197">to sponsors.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-199" data-t="199">He's got minor sponsors.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-200" data-t="200">He's got Swan. He's got</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-204">3:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-204" data-t="204">there's some other ones too.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-208">3:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-208" data-t="208">Yeah. I mean, the the really interesting thing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-211" data-t="211">I I don't listen to a lot of podcasts. I feel like you listen to a lot of podcasts</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-216">3:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-216" data-t="216">when you first get into Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-219" data-t="219">but then</span> <span class="cue" id="t-220" data-t="220">you hear</span> <span class="cue" id="t-221" data-t="221">the same ideas replicated.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-223">3:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-223" data-t="223">Like, there there's like a point in your journey where you have the awakening</span> <span class="cue" id="t-228" data-t="228">that everybody that you're listening to</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-232">3:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-232" data-t="232">on podcasts, on on, like, Fountain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-235" data-t="235">are lizard people, or they're they're like</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-238">3:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-238" data-t="238">machine robots</span> <span class="cue" id="t-240" data-t="240">from another planet</span> <span class="cue" id="t-241" data-t="241">sent here to infiltrate the Bitcoin ecosystem and just say the same ideas over and over again?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-248">4:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-248" data-t="248">Right. When you once you've had your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-251" data-t="251">you've taken your orange pill, it's fully dissolved in your stomach,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-255" data-t="255">and you are now like a crazy Bitcoiner, you stop listening to podcasts, I think you migrate naturally</span> <span class="cue" id="t-260" data-t="260">to spaces.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-262" data-t="262">The spaces is where the really good, nuanced, genuine conversation takes place.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-267" data-t="267">Podcasts,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-268">4:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-268" data-t="268">those people don't know what they're talking about. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-272" data-t="272">obviously, this is a podcast, so there's a little tongue in cheek comment there. But if you really want</span> <span class="cue" id="t-278" data-t="278">good,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-280" data-t="280">genuine intellectual conversation, you've got to go to spaces.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-285">4:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-285" data-t="285">Yeah, I mean there's a lot of really smart people in spaces like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-290" data-t="290">Hoddle Magoo.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-292">4:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-292" data-t="292">Mike Alfred?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-293">4:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-293" data-t="293">Mike Alfred.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-295" data-t="295">Dennis Porter does, quite a few Twitter spaces.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-299">4:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-299" data-t="299">Right, and we've got like the, you've got the morning, like, meeting day spaces,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-304" data-t="304">You've got the the hour</span> <span class="cue" id="t-306" data-t="306">spaces. Those are prerecorded. We found out. Shout out to y'all for,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-310" data-t="310">taking the easy way out. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-313" data-t="313">there's just so many different spaces.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-317" data-t="317">Everybody gets to contribute to the conversation.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-319">5:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-319" data-t="319">And honestly, it's it's remarkable because nobody waste anybody else's time. It's all very respectful</span> <span class="cue" id="t-326" data-t="326">and very, very nuanced discussion.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-329" data-t="329">And that's why I think if you're in that part of your journey, you're kind of like, man, these these podcasts are too hard to keep up with this shit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-338" data-t="338">Check out spaces.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-340" data-t="340">Honestly, the the smaller the room, the better. It's like almost like an intimate comedy club. There's only like five or six people in there and they will laugh at whatever you say.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-352" data-t="352">In the spaces, they'll give you the best feedback on your thoughts. They'll be very respectful about it as well.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-361">6:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-361" data-t="361">Yeah. It's like Twitter spaces,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-363" data-t="363">especially really big ones. Or,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-367" data-t="367">I'd if if I was a newcomer to Bitcoin, where I would point you is I would tell you to go ask questions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-373" data-t="373">in the triple elite meme spaces. Exactly. Because they're very they're very knowledgeable about Bitcoin</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-380">6:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-380" data-t="380">and</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-382">6:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-382" data-t="382">they might you might not be able to understand anything</span> <span class="cue" id="t-385" data-t="385">that they're saying. This is a problem, every time I go into one of their spaces and it's all</span> <span class="cue" id="t-390" data-t="390">unintelligible</span> <span class="cue" id="t-391" data-t="391">to me, but you'll probably pick up some good things about Bitcoin.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-395">6:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-395" data-t="395">No, it's when you first get to a space that's run by like triple elite memes, you're not gonna know what the fuck they're talking about. However,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-403" data-t="403">it's because they're way smarter than you and you start looking up these words, you start to research these terms and you start to get it. And that's like your, it's like an educational journey in and of itself.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-416">6:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-416" data-t="416">Yeah, I mean, you have to learn about terms like wooden door and go into history and research topics.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-424">7:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-424" data-t="424">That's why. Right, and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-426" data-t="426">it's really a lot more rewarding</span> <span class="cue" id="t-429" data-t="429">and a lot</span> <span class="cue" id="t-431" data-t="431">more, you get a lot more value out of it when you take what you've learned from the lead need spaces and you go and you talk to your family and friends about it and you tell them, tell your grandmother or your children what you learned from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-445" data-t="445">them.</span> <span class="cue" data-t="445">It is just it helps you to learn it, to to teach it to somebody else. It just reinforces the value that you're getting from most spaces.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-455">7:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-455" data-t="455">Yeah, I kind of feel like,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-458">7:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-458" data-t="458">Triple Elite memes is kind of like the Hell's Angels where they're like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-462" data-t="462">these like tough looking guys. They're a meme gang, you know? But there's times they'll do public outreach. They'll go volunteer together</span> <span class="cue" id="t-472" data-t="472">for a charity dinner on Thanksgiving</span> <span class="cue" id="t-474" data-t="474">when they're not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-477" data-t="477">committing their</span> <span class="cue" id="t-478" data-t="478">meme gang crimes.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-481">8:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-481" data-t="481">It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-482" data-t="482">almost similar to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-485" data-t="485">like The Wire when, Omar</span> <span class="cue" id="t-488" data-t="488">has taken his grandmother to church and the rival gangs, they decide not to keep the hit that they put on him because you don't violate like those conventions and those rituals and traditions like taking your grandmother to church on Sunday, right? Dang banging</span> <span class="cue" id="t-503" data-t="503">is for,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-504" data-t="504">you know, the weekdays. Same with the meme gangs, like dang banging happens online in real life. Really respectful dudes take care, they get charity, they take care of the homeless, they take care of the poor.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-516">8:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-516" data-t="516">Yeah, just overall</span> <span class="cue" id="t-518" data-t="518">top notch dudes.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-521">8:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-521" data-t="521">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-523" data-t="523">Not everybody thinks that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-525" data-t="525">about triple elite memes though. They definitely have some enemies, but I guess that's just part of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-531" data-t="531">the nature of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-533" data-t="533">you know, living a life of crime like they do.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-536">8:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-536" data-t="536">Yeah, they say if you don't make a few enemies, you're probably not. You're probably not reaching your potential.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-544" data-t="544">No.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-545" data-t="545">Well, so for the first week of the podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-550" data-t="550">we did pretty good.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-552" data-t="552">We had</span> <span class="cue" id="t-553" data-t="553">337</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-555">9:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-555" data-t="555">downloads, and it's only been,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-558" data-t="558">I think, four days. We're we're recording</span> <span class="cue" id="t-562" data-t="562">early on Thursday.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-565" data-t="565">Wow. It makes me wonder</span> <span class="cue" id="t-568" data-t="568">how much work is getting done in the Bitcoin space because I have a feeling that most of our listeners are in the industry.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-577" data-t="577">And I think,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-579">9:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-579" data-t="579">probably of those three thirty seven downloads, three thirty of them were Bitcoin magazine.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-585" data-t="585">So I don't know if they're going to make their next,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-588" data-t="588">their next publication.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-590" data-t="590">They're gonna miss deadlines.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-593">9:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-593" data-t="593">I actually have the analytics on this. And, what it's telling me</span> <span class="cue" id="t-599" data-t="599">is that we have 90%</span> <span class="cue" id="t-601" data-t="601">of our listeners</span> <span class="cue" id="t-603" data-t="603">are CEOs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-604" data-t="604">of different companies.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-606" data-t="606">Wow. Like Rob Hamilton at AnchorWatch.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-609">10:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-609" data-t="609">Okay.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-610" data-t="610">Do they have customers yet?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-614">10:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-614" data-t="614">I don't even know what they do. They like make Fitbits</span> <span class="cue" id="t-617" data-t="617">but for Bitcoin?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-618">10:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-618" data-t="618">Is that what it is? No, no, no. I thought it was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-621" data-t="621">anchor, right? Like I think if you had Baltimore for example would have actually hired them, they probably would see that that shit,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-631" data-t="631">if the anchor wasn't down. And it wouldn't have crashed into that bridge. So honestly,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-636" data-t="636">that makes me conspiracy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-638" data-t="638">minded, like, is that a new side job to quote anchor insurance?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-647">10:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-647" data-t="647">I don't think so.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-649" data-t="649">Oh? I mean, that's a pretty interesting take, but like I think the reality here Rod is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-656" data-t="656">like bridges</span> <span class="cue" id="t-658" data-t="658">getting crashed into by container ships. That's just a prophecy from Atlas Shrugged.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-663">11:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-663" data-t="663">Oh, that's right. That's right. You wrote about that.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-667">11:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-667" data-t="667">Like this is one of the sign offs, like, us as real journalists in the industry really have to counter</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-673">11:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-673" data-t="673">is that,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-677">11:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-677" data-t="677">these things aren't done</span> <span class="cue" id="t-679" data-t="679">out of malice,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-681" data-t="681">like all the planes falling apart in the skies with Boeing, it's not done out of malice, but it's done because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-687" data-t="687">the politicians</span> <span class="cue" id="t-689" data-t="689">just killed everybody's brains.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-693">11:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-693" data-t="693">I I was That's why I, like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-696" data-t="696">actually, I heard this in a space that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-700" data-t="700">Boeing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-701" data-t="701">in order to save money,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-703" data-t="703">they hired most of their engineers, and they're, like, really highly skilled talented workers. And they actually just went to some of the traveling schools and they hired employees to be the people that manufactured their plants, which that I don't know if that's true. That's just speculation I heard in spaces. But if it came from spaces,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-724" data-t="724">I would say there's a nine 99%</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-726">12:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-726" data-t="726">chance that it is correct.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-728" data-t="728">And so that's what we'll get into. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-730" data-t="730">I think they blurred out a lot of the faces</span> <span class="cue" id="t-733" data-t="733">in that, you know, undercover investigation that they did, but it'd be interesting to see how many of those guys had all their teeth.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-744" data-t="744">Yeah, I don't know.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-745" data-t="745">I mean, you gotta</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-748">12:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-748" data-t="748">you gotta hire people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-750" data-t="750">some way. People don't wanna work these days, you know?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-754" data-t="754">That's true.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-756">12:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-756" data-t="756">But, yeah, I'll go so, like, the thing that, like, all the podcasters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-760" data-t="760">do that are, that claim to be against the PodConf,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-764" data-t="764">is that they read the fountain boost at the beginning of the episode.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-770">12:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-770" data-t="770">They read the what?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-772" data-t="772">The fountain boost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-775" data-t="775">Oh, that's right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-778" data-t="778">So It's like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-780" data-t="780">do we want to do that?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-782" data-t="782">Or is that too pod top?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-786">13:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-786" data-t="786">Well, I I think, like, the whole purpose of it is, like, you read it because people wanna listen to the show</span> <span class="cue" id="t-792" data-t="792">and hear what you say.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-794" data-t="794">And so, like, if we're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-797" data-t="797">gonna be earning cigarette money off of this podcast</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-800">13:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-800" data-t="800">without</span> <span class="cue" id="t-802" data-t="802">sponsors,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-803" data-t="803">we have to like read their what they say to encourage them to do it again. You know what I mean?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-809" data-t="809">We should we should incentivize,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-812" data-t="812">our listeners to to pay us.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-817">13:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-817" data-t="817">Yes, I agree. We need to be scamming</span> <span class="cue" id="t-820" data-t="820">our listeners</span> <span class="cue" id="t-821" data-t="821">for as many said. Don't worry, I'll edit this out afterwards. Like we don't want our readers to know that we're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-828" data-t="828">scamming them for Bitcoin and smoking a bunch of cigarettes.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-831">13:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-831" data-t="831">Don't, don't, just don't call it scamming, just call it building a community.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-837">13:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-837" data-t="837">We're building a community and we're evangelizing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-840" data-t="840">the truth.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-842">14:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-842" data-t="842">Speaking speaking of cigarettes, I I had an epiphany</span> <span class="cue" id="t-846" data-t="846">last night.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-847" data-t="847">I decided</span> <span class="cue" id="t-849" data-t="849">that I'm no longer anti</span> <span class="cue" id="t-852" data-t="852">well, wouldn't let me put it this way. I would be open to the metaverse</span> <span class="cue" id="t-857" data-t="857">and the virtual reality future as long as you can smoke there. You can smoke cigarettes in the metaverse.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-864">14:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-864" data-t="864">I'll take a visit.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-868">14:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-868" data-t="868">Alright.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-871" data-t="871">I'd give it a try. I mean, I know Oodie was into that shit.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-876">14:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-876" data-t="876">Yeah. I won't tell much so.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-878" data-t="878">Go ahead.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-880">14:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-880" data-t="880">Oodie Oodie's the type of guy though</span> <span class="cue" id="t-883" data-t="883">that would try and, like, ban smoking in the metaverse. And the way that he would do it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-889" data-t="889">wouldn't be by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-891" data-t="891">coursing you out of smoking. What he would do is he would fill every single virtual room with water so you couldn't light a cigarette in it.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-900">15:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-900" data-t="900">That part of the metaphor for what he's doing to the blockchain?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-905">15:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-905" data-t="905">Yeah, there's a lot of discussion on that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-908" data-t="908">Alright, so,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-909" data-t="909">let's get into the news. So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-912" data-t="912">Rob</span> <span class="cue" id="t-913" data-t="913">one ham,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-914" data-t="914">who I assume is, Rob</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-917">15:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-917" data-t="917">at the the anchor watch insurance company for ship anchors</span> <span class="cue" id="t-923" data-t="923">boosted us with</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-925">15:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-925" data-t="925">21,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-926" data-t="926">sats</span> <span class="cue" id="t-927" data-t="927">and said, finally some real journalism and Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-931" data-t="931">It's about damn time, that's what I'll say.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-934" data-t="934">Yeah, he's not wrong there.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-938">15:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-938" data-t="938">I mean, our first week, we're already hitting the same numbers that the New York Times podcast gets.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-945">15:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-945" data-t="945">That's true. I mean, and we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-948" data-t="948">were close to having, you know, a point to buy a card with cigarettes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-956" data-t="956">I could get this through</span> <span class="cue" id="t-957" data-t="957">two or three days.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-960" data-t="960">That'd be great.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-962" data-t="962">I mean, either either we got</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-964">16:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-964" data-t="964">the amount of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-965" data-t="965">donations we're getting on Fountain.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-967" data-t="967">We have to there's the frequency that we put this podcast out so we can kind of stay</span> <span class="cue" id="t-974" data-t="974">stay in sync with our cigarette habit.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-978">16:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-978" data-t="978">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-980" data-t="980">The next boost</span> <span class="cue" id="t-982" data-t="982">is John</span> <span class="cue" id="t-983" data-t="983">from Ungovernable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-984" data-t="984">Misfits.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-986" data-t="986">He gave us, 21,000</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-988">16:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-988" data-t="988">sats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-989" data-t="989">And,</span> <span class="cue" data-t="989">I'll I'll have to look up this acronym because I don't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-993" data-t="993">I'm not very good with them off the bat, but it says LFG</span> <span class="cue" id="t-997" data-t="997">exclamation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-998" data-t="998">point</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-999">16:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-999" data-t="999">exclamation point exclamation point.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1002">16:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1002" data-t="1002">That stands for lighting is freaking great.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1005" data-t="1005">So he sent us sats over lighting.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1008">16:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1008" data-t="1008">It's it's good, it's good that he's a fan of lightning.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1012" data-t="1012">The the next</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1014" data-t="1014">the next guy is not a fan of lightning, but he sent us</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1018" data-t="1018">5,000 sats on lightning, and it's, this guy named Barn Miner.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1025">17:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1025" data-t="1025">You think he used, custodial lightning to do that?</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1029">17:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1029" data-t="1029">Yeah, I think he probably used custodial Lightning.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1034">17:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1034" data-t="1034">Dad?</span> <span class="cue" data-t="1034">I think I've seen him on Twitter before, he seems like a custodial Lightning guy.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1039">17:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1039" data-t="1039">I think, I think he's a big fan of running Lightning nodes in particular, like I know he's an expert</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1046" data-t="1046">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1047" data-t="1047">has never lost any lightning</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1050" data-t="1050">by running nodes. Like only</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1054">17:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1054" data-t="1054">oh go ahead. I was gonna say,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1057" data-t="1057">if he wants to come on the show and talk to us,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1060" data-t="1060">I'd like I'd be curious to find out his thoughts and if he plans to run one of those Taproot nodes, Taproot Lightning nodes so they can,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1068" data-t="1068">you could trade all kinds of assets on those taproot nodes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1072" data-t="1072">like stable coins, Tether,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1074" data-t="1074">other like NFTs.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1076">17:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1076" data-t="1076">He might be interested in something like that. Might be curious, maybe he could do a tutorial or some sort of BTC</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1082" data-t="1082">sessions like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1085" data-t="1085">explanation for how others can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1087" data-t="1087">enable their Lightning nodes to send Tether.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1093">18:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1093" data-t="1093">Wow. That'd be great. I mean, hopefully, like before he does that though, he goes and complies</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1098">18:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1098" data-t="1098">and gets a, money transmitter license for his note. Yeah. Yeah. First of all, we should probably put that out there. If you want to be a guest</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1107" data-t="1107">on the Google Weekly,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1109" data-t="1109">you have to be compliant. We we will not,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1112" data-t="1112">we don't have time for noncompliance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1118" data-t="1118">The next guy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1120" data-t="1120">is</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1121">18:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1121" data-t="1121">a probably a good complier. I'm not sure who this is, but his name</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1124">18:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1124" data-t="1124">is Firstless.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1126" data-t="1126">He boosted us for 5,000 sets.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1129">18:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1129" data-t="1129">And then,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1131" data-t="1131">Buddy QW,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1132" data-t="1132">he was actually the first person that brought me on his podcast.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1137">18:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1137" data-t="1137">He sent us 5,000 sets. He's a cool dude. He's big into noster,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1142" data-t="1142">quiet warrior.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1144" data-t="1144">Nice.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1146" data-t="1146">I see Wojmoor.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1148" data-t="1148">They boosted us. They were sharing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1150" data-t="1150">they really liked the podcast intro.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1155">19:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1155" data-t="1155">Yeah. I don't blame him enough. It was a pretty good intro.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1159">19:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1159" data-t="1159">If you actually if,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1161" data-t="1161">for anybody out there, you should check out OrangeMort. It's kind of a cool</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1165" data-t="1165">I'm really hopeful. It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1167" data-t="1167">not like Minecraft or Fortnite, but it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1170" data-t="1170">it's one of those big giant worlds with all these different</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1175" data-t="1175">awesome things you can build, but it's all Bitcoin related. So you can, like, go</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1179">19:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1179" data-t="1179">around and instead of, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1182" data-t="1182">killing somebody and taking their treasure, you can, like, exchange media, like, hey, lightning invoices inside the game</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1190" data-t="1190">frequently.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1194">19:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1194" data-t="1194">I'll have to try it out. I don't know if I'll be able to run it on my typewriter, Lew.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1200">19:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1200" data-t="1200">Yeah, that might cause the typewriter to overheat.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1203" data-t="1203">Because it's a decentralized server system, so you rely on locally.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1210">20:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1210" data-t="1210">I like this. Let's let's take turns reading these. I think that's the best way to do it. Okay.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1216" data-t="1216">So this this next guy, he's non compliant. His name is Gulag Bound,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1221" data-t="1221">which signals that he's compliant or non compliant because you don't go to the Gulag unless</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1226">20:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1226" data-t="1226">you're non compliant.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1228" data-t="1228">But he said, y'all have been in the Gulag for too long.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1232">20:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1232" data-t="1232">No, sir. You have been in the gulag too long. We are free because we comply</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1238" data-t="1238">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1239" data-t="1239">don't get put in the gulag.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1241">20:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1241" data-t="1241">Exactly. If you listen to our first episode all the way through, you realize that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1245" data-t="1245">by comply by self compliance, by by complying for the state to make you comply. That's how you stay for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1255" data-t="1255">free. Next, you already mentioned QW.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1258" data-t="1258">We got user one seven</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1260" data-t="1260">nine seven zero zero. That's a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1264" data-t="1264">really cool username. I don't know how you've bought that app, but thank you for the 100¢.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1270">21:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1270" data-t="1270">I think that we're seeing things in different orders.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1273" data-t="1273">I think it's tattoo.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1277" data-t="1277">Well, that doesn't work out very well.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1280" data-t="1280">There's also Chad,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1282" data-t="1282">You give him those two boosts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1284" data-t="1284">one for a thousand sats and one for 3,333</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1288">21:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1288" data-t="1288">sats, and he goes, I randomly saw you post a podcast on podcastingindex.org.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1293" data-t="1293">You post a screenshot, so I searched for your podcast, and here I am.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1297" data-t="1297">Haven't even hit play yet, but I love your content already, so here's some sats. Well, thank you. I've been honestly, that's my favorite type of fan. Somebody who doesn't even listen, they just pay me.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1310" data-t="1310">Yeah. It was pretty cool.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1313">21:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1313" data-t="1313">I don't know why he would do that. It seems like a bad idea.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1319">21:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1319" data-t="1319">You know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1321" data-t="1321">it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1322" data-t="1322">I always say it's worth it to send your SaaS, send them to somebody without really having any guarantees</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1329" data-t="1329">that you're gonna get your product or your service back.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1333" data-t="1333">Just that that's what this community is about, right? Like, you don't have to trust the other person on chain, but you but you get to trust them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1342" data-t="1342">in other ways.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1346">22:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1346" data-t="1346">Yeah, that makes sense.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1350">22:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1350" data-t="1350">Oh,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1351" data-t="1351">all right. Well,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1354">22:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1354" data-t="1354">I get why we're gonna have to come up with some rule for this because if we get a bunch of these,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1363" data-t="1363">users. If</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1364" data-t="1364">if we get too many, it'll start to become dust. We'll essentially have to call it dust. So we'll have to put a limit unless you donate x amount of sats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1373" data-t="1373">You risk not making it into the show.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1378">22:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1378" data-t="1378">Yeah. I mean, we run we run a lightning node built on top of not.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1383" data-t="1383">So there's filtering</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1385" data-t="1385">built into our lightning.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1388">23:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1388" data-t="1388">That's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1390" data-t="1390">good. Alright.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1392" data-t="1392">First order of news today. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1396" data-t="1396">Sam Bankman Fried</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1398" data-t="1398">was sentenced to twenty five years</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1401" data-t="1401">in federal prison.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1404">23:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1404" data-t="1404">And my first thought on it was that he should have complied harder and avoided the situation entirely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1410" data-t="1410">I mean, I was kind of the shot over the bow</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1414" data-t="1414">warning</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1415" data-t="1415">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1416" data-t="1416">the custodial companies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1418" data-t="1418">to all the companies in general,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1420">23:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1420" data-t="1420">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1421" data-t="1421">you can comply</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1423" data-t="1423">and have success, you can comply and get rich,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1426" data-t="1426">or, you know, you can go to jail.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1431">23:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1431" data-t="1431">He,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1433" data-t="1433">he did a really, really good job</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1437" data-t="1437">of funding</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1438" data-t="1438">politicians.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1441" data-t="1441">But you can only get so far funding politicians</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1444" data-t="1444">if you're not complying.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1447">24:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1447" data-t="1447">Right, you can't. It's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1449" data-t="1449">you can't do one without the other.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1453" data-t="1453">In our industry, there's very, very important</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1456" data-t="1456">regulations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1458" data-t="1458">that people must follow to ensure that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1461" data-t="1461">their products are safe.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1463">24:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1463" data-t="1463">It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1466" data-t="1466">eight or eight out of these regulations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1469" data-t="1469">so that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1470" data-t="1470">if a company is following those regulations and they are a regulated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1474" data-t="1474">public company or just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1477" data-t="1477">private company that is public facing and maybe they're connected to the banking system, that means they're regulated. That means that you don't have to</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1485">24:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1485" data-t="1485">worry about looking at the, you know, the company's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1489" data-t="1489">board. You don't have to worry about looking at the investors in the company. You don't have to worry about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1495" data-t="1495">looking at the code if they're if they have a, you know, a digital product.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1500" data-t="1500">You can trust that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1502" data-t="1502">that company is safe. They have your best interests FR and that your funds are safe.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1508" data-t="1508">It's the companies that don't comply</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1510">25:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1510" data-t="1510">that you have to be very suspicious of.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1515">25:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1515" data-t="1515">Yeah. I think one of the, like, first things that you should be looking at a company like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1522" data-t="1522">if I were an investor,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1523" data-t="1523">like Mike Alfred,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1526" data-t="1526">and I wasn't on one of the initial seed rounds and I was looking at a company,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1532" data-t="1532">let's say, like, Swan Bitcoin, for example,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1535" data-t="1535">just because they're a big company and they're raising money periodically. But you could say the same thing. I would ask the same thing of Jack Mallers at Strike,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1544">25:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1544" data-t="1544">is how many employees</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1545" data-t="1545">do you have in your HR department?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1549" data-t="1549">And are you currently meeting or exceeding</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1553" data-t="1553">industry</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1554" data-t="1554">expected</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1556" data-t="1556">DEI?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1559">25:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1559" data-t="1559">That'd be good point. I wrote an article this week about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1563" data-t="1563">DEI and some companies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1565" data-t="1565">not all companies have scrapped DEI yet,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1568" data-t="1568">so some companies still have DEI and they still have ESG.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1572" data-t="1572">A lot of them are considering</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1574" data-t="1574">consolidating those departments into a compliance department.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1577">26:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1577" data-t="1577">And, of course, as I reported Voltage, the lightning infrastructure company,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1583" data-t="1583">just hired Charlie Schrem,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1585" data-t="1585">to be their chief compliance officer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1588" data-t="1588">Hey, first of all, if you are somebody who is really good at compliance,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1594" data-t="1594">you should probably check, you know, LinkedIn and the job boards because I have a feeling a lot of these</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1601" data-t="1601">Bitcoin companies are going to start having openings with chief compliance officers.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1606">26:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1606" data-t="1606">But chief compliance officers, they don't do the job on their own. They need, as you mentioned,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1612" data-t="1612">human resources employees.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1614" data-t="1614">And I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1615" data-t="1615">that the key to success</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1617" data-t="1617">in this next cycle and then going forward as as we start to get to this hyperbitcoinization,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1623" data-t="1623">assuming companies comply hard enough,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1626">27:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1626" data-t="1626">you're gonna see just long jobs that AI</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1630" data-t="1630">eliminates</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1631" data-t="1631">can be replaced by will be replaced by the need for human resources and compliance departments.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1639">27:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1639" data-t="1639">Yeah. I mean, human resources</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1642" data-t="1642">is one of the most important it's the cornerstone</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1645" data-t="1645">of a compliant company</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1649">27:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1649" data-t="1649">without it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1650" data-t="1650">Yeah. Absolutely. And if you if you want to find out how important and how intelligent</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1656" data-t="1656">and how valuable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1657" data-t="1657">human resources is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1659" data-t="1659">I challenge you to just do this with a simple task.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1662" data-t="1662">Spend one hour in a terrible elite memes,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1665">27:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1665" data-t="1665">spaces</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1666" data-t="1666">on Twitter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1668" data-t="1668">and then go</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1669" data-t="1669">and have a conversation about what you learned with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1672" data-t="1672">your company's human resources officer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1675" data-t="1675">and I think you will realize like</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1678">27:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1678" data-t="1678">they won't get a promotion from that honestly. They might see how</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1682" data-t="1682">much you've learned and how much skill you may have to offer that they are not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1687" data-t="1687">appropriately</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1688" data-t="1688">leveraging.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1689" data-t="1689">You may do the job, so just go listen to Turku Elite memes. I think they're talking about some meme coin right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1695" data-t="1695">Learn a little about that and then explain it to the HR person at your job.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1701">28:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1701" data-t="1701">Yeah.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1703">28:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1703" data-t="1703">I know a lot of people are wondering who the next Sam Bankman freed in the industry is going to be and there's a lot of speculation, there's a lot of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1711" data-t="1711">big</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1712" data-t="1712">shitcoin exchanges that were just like FTX.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1717" data-t="1717">But one red flag that I saw this week was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1720" data-t="1720">Jack Mallard's at Strike.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1723" data-t="1723">He did a stream on CNBC,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1725">28:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1725" data-t="1725">and his closet</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1727" data-t="1727">was entirely filled with Jordans and Gucci clothing.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1732">28:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1732" data-t="1732">Yeah, that's a little bit worrying. Not only so let's look</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1736" data-t="1736">at the fact pattern here as a lawyer would say.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1741" data-t="1741">He he moved his company overseas.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1743" data-t="1743">He used to be a United States based company</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1746" data-t="1746">and they moved it to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1747" data-t="1747">a Central America. He moved it to El Salvador.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1750">29:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1750" data-t="1750">They have a different rules about compliance down there and I let me tell you they're not quite as strict as The United States.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1757" data-t="1757">So he does that. That's his first move.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1759" data-t="1759">His second move,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1762" data-t="1762">well, it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1763" data-t="1763">this is what you're talking about. It's demonstrated. He has he he's been speaking to people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1768" data-t="1768">with this empty closet. He's for some reason, his computer and his webcam are in this empty closet because he's a he's a presumably</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1776">29:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1776" data-t="1776">a true Bitcoiner.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1777" data-t="1777">He he has one chair and that's just podcasting because that's kind of one exception. Sell all the chairs in your house</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1784" data-t="1784">buy Bitcoin, but if you have a podcast, you need a podcaster.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1787" data-t="1787">So he keeps the podcaster.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1790" data-t="1790">But now it's, you know, his his once empty closet is filling up with with the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1796" data-t="1796">Gucci shirts, and it's it's very reminiscent of</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1800">29:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1800" data-t="1800">of the guy from X, Richard Heart. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1803" data-t="1803">I love Jack, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1805" data-t="1805">I did something to keep an eye on.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1811">30:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1811" data-t="1811">It's definitely something to keep an eye on. It it could be it could be very concerning. I mean, he he could have allowed a relative to move in that was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1819" data-t="1819">a relative of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1821" data-t="1821">of Baller family,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1823" data-t="1823">And he could be sharing the closet with them. I mean, there's there's a lot of questions that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1829" data-t="1829">need to be asked and, some real journalism done on this topic to just make sure that</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1836">30:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1836" data-t="1836">that we need to protect it. Yeah. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1839" data-t="1839">as we know, Richard Heart</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1841" data-t="1841">is on the run. He is wanted by the SEC and the US government for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1847" data-t="1847">the body committed press.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1850" data-t="1850">Some of the stuff in Jack's closet looks like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1853" data-t="1853">stuff that Richard might wear. Maybe he's maybe he is,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1856">30:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1856" data-t="1856">housing fugitive from justice. I don't know. If he knows, honestly, if Jack is housing fugitive from The US justice system,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1864" data-t="1864">maybe that cancels out the bad things he's doing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1867" data-t="1867">That's kinda based.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1869">31:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1869" data-t="1869">As soon as I'm done recording this, I'm gonna go back to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1873" data-t="1873">the the CNBC</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1874" data-t="1874">stream and make sure there's no gold chains in the closet because that would be the dead giveaway.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1881">31:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1881" data-t="1881">It would be really heartbreaking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1883" data-t="1883">if Jack was a, was a gold pipe.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1889" data-t="1889">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1893" data-t="1893">Okay.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1895">31:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1895" data-t="1895">I think that we need to talk about</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1899">31:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1899" data-t="1899">March Maxi Madness.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1902" data-t="1902">It's been a hit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1905" data-t="1905">It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1906" data-t="1906">it's it's when he he took over Twitter yesterday.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1910" data-t="1910">Round two is taking over Twitter today.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1913" data-t="1913">But there's,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1914">31:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1914" data-t="1914">some interesting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1917" data-t="1917">developments that kind of came up. Some interesting winners,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1921" data-t="1921">some interesting people who didn't make the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1923" data-t="1923">tournament. I, you know, Seifedean was at the top of the list. It turns out,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1929" data-t="1929">Seifedean was not able to make the tournament this year. He has a torn ACL.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1934" data-t="1934">Somebody said that he had a salad</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1937">32:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1937" data-t="1937">for dinner a few weeks ago and may have weakened him,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1940" data-t="1940">and then they have made him</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1942" data-t="1942">open for that injury.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1944" data-t="1944">But the big one,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1946" data-t="1946">from my perspective, I think this is yours too, was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1949" data-t="1949">the</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1950">32:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1950" data-t="1950">Becca,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1952" data-t="1952">match up.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1953" data-t="1953">Becca was winning that one,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1955" data-t="1955">and then Becca was hosting the spaces</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1957" data-t="1957">with, you know, it was like a thousand people. He told everybody, go vote for me.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1963" data-t="1963">His back is you know, he he has a speed of his back. I don't know if it started yesterday or it goes before that,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1969">32:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1969" data-t="1969">but he turned the ball around. They had a pretty decisive lead until this morning. When I woke up this morning and I checked Twitter, I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1978" data-t="1978">I woke up to a big surprise and we went to tell the story what that surprise was.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1985" data-t="1985">Becca</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1986" data-t="1986">had come back and had tied,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1990" data-t="1990">Magoo in the polls.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1993" data-t="1993">And somehow, I</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1994">33:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1994" data-t="1994">don't know. I mean, she she had been tweeting it. She'd been accusing Magoo of buying votes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2001" data-t="2001">She</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2002" data-t="2002">she rallied all the simps of Twitter that don't realize that she's married,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2009">33:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2009" data-t="2009">to vote for her.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2011">33:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2011" data-t="2011">And then</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2013" data-t="2013">Yeah. And then Michael Saylor</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2015" data-t="2015">came in. There he is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2017" data-t="2017">He said that he voted for Becca.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2021">33:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2021" data-t="2021">And a lot of people were retweeting that, and it was, you know, it was kinda talk at Twitter this morning. But then,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2028" data-t="2028">I'm a do you know, I maybe he has insider information.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2032" data-t="2032">Maybe he's just trolling.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2035" data-t="2035">Maybe he's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2036" data-t="2036">he's onto something, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2038" data-t="2038">he thinks it was a CIA hit on him.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2042">34:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2042" data-t="2042">And there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2043" data-t="2043">there may be connections between,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2047" data-t="2047">Michael Sailor and the CIA.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2049" data-t="2049">And I'm not just talking about the fact that, you know, his company,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2054" data-t="2054">the property as the and the border that it shares with the Central Intelligence Agency headquarters. They're just right next to each other.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2061" data-t="2061">I think that's just a coincidence, but who thinks there could be more to that?</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2067">34:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2067" data-t="2067">Yeah. So what his tweet said exactly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2070" data-t="2070">was he was retweeting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2072" data-t="2072">sailors saying that he voted for Becca.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2075" data-t="2075">And Magoo says,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2077" data-t="2077">c I CIA rigs another election.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2081">34:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2081" data-t="2081">There you have it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2083" data-t="2083">I guess we'll wait. What the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2085" data-t="2085">Will the audience decide that one?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2088" data-t="2088">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2089" data-t="2089">at the end of the day,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2090" data-t="2090">she moves on to the next round.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2093">34:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2093" data-t="2093">Who doesn't?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2094" data-t="2094">But I I just gotta say, it feels here really similar to election day twenty twenty.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2100" data-t="2100">We all went to sleep,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2101" data-t="2101">thinking Trump was gonna be president again, and then we wake up and just a new</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2107" data-t="2107">a new pinch of votes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2109" data-t="2109">just flooded in at the at the eleventh hour, and it put Biden over the top.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2115">35:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2115" data-t="2115">And that this that's very similar to what happened,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2118" data-t="2118">today in that poll in the back in this poll.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2123">35:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2123" data-t="2123">Yeah. I mean, I I know there's a lot of election deniers out there, but this is, like, a really dangerous</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2130" data-t="2130">discussion that is based in zero proof because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2134" data-t="2134">this is a very fair</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2136" data-t="2136">and safe election.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2138" data-t="2138">It was a safe and effective election.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2141" data-t="2141">It was the most secure election</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2145">35:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2145" data-t="2145">that Twitter has ever,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2148" data-t="2148">facilitated.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2149" data-t="2149">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2151" data-t="2151">I think that's a good summary of of Mateus's conspiracy theory is that, it's basically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2157" data-t="2157">he has no proof. He is, it was a zero knowledge proof.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2161" data-t="2161">Proofless</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2163">36:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2163" data-t="2163">tweet.</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2163">So, yeah, I mean, that was I mean, we monitored</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2167" data-t="2167">the election</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2168" data-t="2168">the entire twenty four hours that the polls were open. We did not see any evidence</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2173" data-t="2173">of fraud. We did not see any evidence of tampering.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2176" data-t="2176">So</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2177">36:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2177" data-t="2177">we're gonna chalk that one up to conspiracy. However,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2181" data-t="2181">what</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2182" data-t="2182">we got here in the report's about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2184" data-t="2184">is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2185" data-t="2185">this maxi nadness encouraged</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2187" data-t="2187">or has been encouraging</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2189">36:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2189" data-t="2189">some of the little some</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2192" data-t="2192">side activities,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2194" data-t="2194">some extracurriculars</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2195" data-t="2195">as some might call it. I'm talking about gambling.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2198" data-t="2198">We've got reports that, Peter McCormick, Tone Vays</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2202" data-t="2202">and several others,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2204">36:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2204" data-t="2204">they've been betting on who's going to win these matchups.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2207" data-t="2207">And I've even</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2210" data-t="2210">heard that Peter and Tone</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2212" data-t="2212">have been financing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2213" data-t="2213">meme gangs to to create memes and to interview</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2217" data-t="2217">other podcasters to interview</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2219">36:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2219" data-t="2219">some of these,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2221" data-t="2221">contestants in Axie Madness to kind of boost their profile</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2225" data-t="2225">and help them in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2227" data-t="2227">the tournament matchups because there's a lot a lot of stats on the line for these guys.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2232" data-t="2232">When when Peter and Tom make a bet, it's not a thousand sats. It's like we're talking a 100,000 sats, a million sats. Like, this is a nice big generational</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2242" data-t="2242">wealth company.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2245">37:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2245" data-t="2245">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2246" data-t="2246">I mean, I I think, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2248" data-t="2248">gambling markets being spun off of this is is a really good thing because gambling markets were</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2255" data-t="2255">one of the first things people use Bitcoin for.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2259" data-t="2259">So it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2261" data-t="2261">it's it's nice to hear, but, you know, when you're the organization</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2265">37:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2265" data-t="2265">putting on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2266" data-t="2266">a free and fair election like this and there's gambling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2270" data-t="2270">happen. There's there's different incentives. So it just sounds like we need to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2274" data-t="2274">super hyper vigilant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2276" data-t="2276">and very transparent,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2278" data-t="2278">with the people. We want them to have faith in our democracy.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2282">38:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2282" data-t="2282">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2284" data-t="2284">I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2286" data-t="2286">we've had election watchers this whole time,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2290" data-t="2290">so they should just trust them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2293" data-t="2293">Exactly. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2295" data-t="2295">you mentioned that one of the earliest use cases of Bitcoin was gambling.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2300">38:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2300" data-t="2300">And I just want people to think about it. So I just listened to why Grass Fed Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2307" data-t="2307">on Peter's show. He knew</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2309" data-t="2309">he'd be doing some convincing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2313" data-t="2313">about ordinals when it comes to my opinion</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2315" data-t="2315">about whether they're good or bad.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2317" data-t="2317">And a lot of people think that ordinals in ERC 20s</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2321">38:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2321" data-t="2321">and NFTs on Bitcoin, that it's all scamming and essentially gambling.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2326" data-t="2326">And that's true and I I think that if you wanna gamble with Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2331" data-t="2331">you need to go with the traditional</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2333" data-t="2333">monetary use case route.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2335" data-t="2335">Just gamble</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2336" data-t="2336">with your SaaS, don't gamble on the value, subjective value of individual SaaS.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2343">39:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2343" data-t="2343">Just gamble by, you know, if you've got 10 Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2346" data-t="2346">who cares if you're under the age of 30,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2349" data-t="2349">gamble Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2351" data-t="2351">on something like a Satoshi dice website</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2354" data-t="2354">or a casino.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2356" data-t="2356">I mean, that's the way that you want to use Bitcoin.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2360">39:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2360" data-t="2360">Bovada is another good one that's popular. The people Let me check that out. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2366" data-t="2366">You can bet your Bitcoin on Australian tennis matches.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2371">39:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2371" data-t="2371">Wow. Yeah. I mean, at a certain point, you get so much Bitcoin that you just kind of what's the meaning of life anymore? Like, you don't have to work anymore. You can you see, you just become an nihilist and the only thing that really is left to do is gamble. And I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2386" data-t="2386">that Satoshi</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2387" data-t="2387">was very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2389" data-t="2389">he was very smart to see into the future and realize that once people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2393" data-t="2393">became it ridiculously</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2394" data-t="2394">wealthy off of Bitcoin, that they were gonna have much left, really</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2399">39:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2399" data-t="2399">matter in their life. So they might as well just gamble it away.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2404">40:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2404" data-t="2404">Definitely.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2406">40:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2406" data-t="2406">Especially if they don't have to do it, it's like sailing. Like, if I was a sailor, I can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2410" data-t="2410">show up to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2411" data-t="2411">to Caesar's Palace in in in Vegas, put</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2415" data-t="2415">a 100,000</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2415">bitcoin on a,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2417" data-t="2417">OpenDime,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2418">40:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2418" data-t="2418">they just put it on Blackbitty.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2423">40:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2423" data-t="2423">Were there any upsets that you were really surprised about in the first round, or so far in the second round?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2430">40:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2430" data-t="2430">Not too many</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2432" data-t="2432">big surprises. I kind of surprised</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2435" data-t="2435">that, Preston Pish beat Lynn Alden so badly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2439" data-t="2439">I thought that she had a pretty good pretty good shot. I didn't go back and review some of these results.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2446" data-t="2446">There was a few others. What about you?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2449">40:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2449" data-t="2449">I was really surprised that Peter McCormack beat David Bailey so bad.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2454">40:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2454" data-t="2454">Oh, that's yeah, I that would call me off guard. In fact, I was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2459" data-t="2459">received some DMs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2460" data-t="2460">this morning</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2461" data-t="2461">from industry insiders who will remain anonymous</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2465" data-t="2465">that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2466" data-t="2466">reported David Bailey, Dodge, Shinobi,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2470">41:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2470" data-t="2470">and Rizzo</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2471" data-t="2471">on a video call, like, at 8AM</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2474" data-t="2474">today, and he was just laying into them about their</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2478" data-t="2478">the pressure that he was putting on them to win this tournament for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2483" data-t="2483">Bitcoin Magazine because I think if it would get the second round, there's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2488" data-t="2488">a couple of people from Swan</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2490">41:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2490" data-t="2490">that are still in the running and he and he does not want to lose this tournament, this inaugural tournament</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2497" data-t="2497">to Swan Bitcoin. I think that's just he said he thinks it's gonna set a bad precedence.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2502" data-t="2502">I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2503" data-t="2503">wanna leave David Daley putting the pressure on his employees.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2506" data-t="2506">I'm fully</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2508" data-t="2508">uncoordinated.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2509">41:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2509" data-t="2509">I'm getting DMs from folks saying that that Corey Esman is doing the same thing. He's he's fighting fire under Sam Dallian's ass. He told him, you know, I introduced you to your wife. I made this possible. You can't let me down. Because Natalie lost in first round, so it's up to Sam, I think, and Ricky to take this one all the way.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2529">42:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2529" data-t="2529">Yeah. So far in the second round, I can check the live updates, actually.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2534">42:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2534" data-t="2534">Who is that? Sam Kellyanne. That's, like That's crazy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2539" data-t="2539">Big Mac Swann</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2541" data-t="2541">head to head in the second round.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2545">42:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2545" data-t="2545">That's crazy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2548" data-t="2548">Well, Guy Swann</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2550" data-t="2550">hopefully hopefully Guy Swann will go all the way, and they'll consider that a consolation. Because, like, even though he has no affiliation with Swan, his name is pretty close. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2560" data-t="2560">I'm sure a lot of the people that that look at his name and don't know who he is will think of Swan Bitcoin.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2566">42:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2566" data-t="2566">That's true. I think maybe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2570" data-t="2570">I've heard rumors that Swan</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2572" data-t="2572">actually sued a guy in 2019</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2574" data-t="2574">before they launched the company,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2576" data-t="2576">and a and a guy lost. He had to add that extra n to his name.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2581" data-t="2581">But if if he yields to, like, the final four or the championship,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2586">43:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2586" data-t="2586">maybe Swan drops the drops the lawsuit and let them let's add it back just for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2592" data-t="2592">the remarketing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2593" data-t="2593">It'd be a huge win for the Swan family.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2597" data-t="2597">That Are you Guy Swann's family? It's because they knew his brother, Jeff, changed it too.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2603">43:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2603" data-t="2603">You're saying that Corey made</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2606" data-t="2606">Guy Swann and his brother CoinJoin their last names?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2611">43:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2611" data-t="2611">Allegedly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2612" data-t="2612">Allegedly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2615" data-t="2615">Wow.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2616" data-t="2616">Pure speculation.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2618" data-t="2618">But I'd be, you know, again,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2620" data-t="2620">when you hear information in spaces,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2623">43:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2623" data-t="2623">obviously we know not to trust but to verify.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2627" data-t="2627">It's kind of an emceeum.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2629" data-t="2629">When you hear something in spaces, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2631" data-t="2631">generally don't really need to verify.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2635">43:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2635" data-t="2635">I I just I can't get around the idea of a company</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2640" data-t="2640">going after a man's surname.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2644" data-t="2644">Like, if somebody if a company came to me and sued me to change my name from Reeser,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2651" data-t="2651">I don't know what I would do. That that's like that's like when you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2655" data-t="2655">sell all your belongings</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2656" data-t="2656">and buy</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2658">44:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2658" data-t="2658">a really, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2660" data-t="2660">old Japanese</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2662" data-t="2662">bulldozer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2665" data-t="2665">if you know what I mean. Like, that that that'd be, like, the point I'd be at.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2671">44:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2671" data-t="2671">Yeah. I this is why</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2675" data-t="2675">this is why we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2677" data-t="2677">we started this podcast, right? We're going after the podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2681" data-t="2681">on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2683" data-t="2683">France industrial complex because this is the type of behavior,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2687" data-t="2687">the incentives</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2688">44:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2688" data-t="2688">that these companies and these podcasters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2691" data-t="2691">have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2692" data-t="2692">to just go after, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2694" data-t="2694">it's not just about money.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2696" data-t="2696">It is about money, but it's when they're willing to destroy an entire lineage, entire family name</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2702" data-t="2702">over brands.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2704">45:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2704" data-t="2704">It's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2705" data-t="2705">it's something that we need to think about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2708" data-t="2708">and and change our behavior, I think, as an industry.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2713" data-t="2713">I agree. That seems super fiat to me.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2716" data-t="2716">Man,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2720">45:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2720" data-t="2720">I'm trying to think of other upsets.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2722" data-t="2722">The the one upset that really blew my mind, so we had a one seed lose. And this is the first time in the entire history of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2730" data-t="2730">the March Maxi Madness,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2733" data-t="2733">tournament</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2734" data-t="2734">that a 16 seed upset a one seed, and Eric Cason defeated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2739" data-t="2739">Dennis Porter.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2743">45:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2743" data-t="2743">Wow. Now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2746" data-t="2746">that's that's a really interesting matchup to, like, dive into the details because on the one hand,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2752" data-t="2752">you have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2754" data-t="2754">a guy who is known</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2756" data-t="2756">for,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2758" data-t="2758">you</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2758">45:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" data-t="2758">know, sometimes he just snaps these guys on these really long rants. They're very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2764" data-t="2764">rooted in anarchism and uncompliance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2767" data-t="2767">Then you've got, like, the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2769" data-t="2769">polar opposite of that. You've got Dennis Porter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2772" data-t="2772">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2773" data-t="2773">you can't see the waves and the tides of,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2777">46:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2777" data-t="2777">of compliance and the benefits of compliance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2780" data-t="2780">coming crashing at you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2782" data-t="2782">You're crazy. So I really was expecting Dennis to run away with this one.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2787" data-t="2787">But Eric,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2789" data-t="2789">it was one of the biggest upsets perhaps in March Madness history.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2795">46:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2795" data-t="2795">Yeah. I mean, I I thought I had set up Dennis for a very favorable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2800" data-t="2800">route to the, championship,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2806" data-t="2806">in a very fair way, of course,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2808" data-t="2808">because I would never favor</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2810" data-t="2810">anybody. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2812" data-t="2812">I thought that he had a path to win</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2816">46:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2816" data-t="2816">in getting knocked out in the first round to Eric Kayson,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2820" data-t="2820">a a non compliant individual,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2825">47:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2825" data-t="2825">was really concerning to me. And, like, if there's one thing that I learned about working in media</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2831" data-t="2831">is you really gotta blame voters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2834" data-t="2834">for being bad</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2836">47:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2836" data-t="2836">people, you know, for for making decisions like this. And I it's</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2841">47:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2841" data-t="2841">when</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2842" data-t="2842">when sellers make their minds out, it has not to do with the quality of the candidates, their policies, anything like that. It is it boils down to whether they are the voters stupid or not? And I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2856" data-t="2856">this particular example,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2858" data-t="2858">I don't wanna find them stupid, right? I just I question</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2863" data-t="2863">I question their their incentives. I question their values. Why they why they wanted Dennis out of this out of this tournament? Maybe Dennis is kinda like the Duke of college basketball or something. It's people just they wanna root for the underdog whenever Duke is playing, but I don't know. I question question the voters' choices there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2882" data-t="2882">Yeah.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2883">48:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2883" data-t="2883">I mean, the the problem is just there's been this general ethos around Bitcoin,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2888">48:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2888" data-t="2888">around</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2890" data-t="2890">non compliance.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2892">48:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2892" data-t="2892">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2894" data-t="2894">there hasn't been good media coverage with, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2898" data-t="2898">accurate information from, like, the expert sources of people that have actually been trained in journalism.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2905">48:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2905" data-t="2905">Yeah. There's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2907" data-t="2907">there's a breakdown in journalism as well. I think that any of that, that's why I wanted to join the bugle. I know that's why he started the bugle.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2914" data-t="2914">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2916" data-t="2916">sometimes people talk about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2918" data-t="2918">why is the Bitcoin price not higher than it is considering all this money coming in from the ETFs,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2924" data-t="2924">but</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2924">48:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" data-t="2924">the reason is that it's still too early. I mean, there's there's still all this unlock that's coming, and I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2931" data-t="2931">with the people, it's the same.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2934" data-t="2934">What we've started,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2935" data-t="2935">we've made some progress,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2937" data-t="2937">and we are building a following. But it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2940" data-t="2940">it's gonna take time</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2942">49:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2942" data-t="2942">for us</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2944" data-t="2944">to, like, reprogram</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2945" data-t="2945">the retarded brains of the Bitcoin community and just the the broader,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2951" data-t="2951">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2952" data-t="2952">society in general. And it's it's not gonna happen overnight.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2957" data-t="2957">Yeah.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2958">49:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2958" data-t="2958">I mean, there's, like, there's a lot of white supremacy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2962" data-t="2962">going on. There's a lot of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2964" data-t="2964">money laundering</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2966">49:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2966" data-t="2966">going on. There's a lot of there's a lot of stuff that just makes us look really bad, guys.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2971" data-t="2971">And you need to knock it off and and comply</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2975" data-t="2975">so that we can go before Elizabeth Warren and say we're compliant.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2979">49:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2979" data-t="2979">Look at us.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2981" data-t="2981">You have nothing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2983" data-t="2983">It only takes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2985" data-t="2985">one sat one,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2987" data-t="2987">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2988" data-t="2988">blacklisted</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2990">49:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2990" data-t="2990">endured.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2991" data-t="2991">Some benefit that comes from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2994" data-t="2994">money laundering or from us. For example, it only takes one of those sats to to fucking roll up all UTX out.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3001" data-t="3001">Don't be that one run sat that ruins everything for the compliant Bitcoin community.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3008" data-t="3008">We are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3009" data-t="3009">on brink</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3011">50:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3011" data-t="3011">of</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3011">really revolutionizing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3014" data-t="3014">politics,</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3014">economics,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3016" data-t="3016">the money system in general.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3018" data-t="3018">If we we don't,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3020">50:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3020" data-t="3020">it doesn't this isn't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3021" data-t="3021">a private thing, like, we just have to comply for, you know, maybe ten, twenty more years.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3028" data-t="3028">And if we just comply as far as we can,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3031" data-t="3031">that ten or twenty years,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3033" data-t="3033">we'll we'll be the ones who decide what compliance is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3037" data-t="3037">And we can take all the lessons we learned,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3040">50:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3040" data-t="3040">twenty years of compliance, and we can use that to inform</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3045" data-t="3045">how we enforce</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3046" data-t="3046">the world to comply to us</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3049" data-t="3049">once we have power.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3052" data-t="3052">That's what this is about. It's about power. Right? We want power.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3057" data-t="3057">We want power, we want control, we want to dominate the shitcoiners and nocoiners.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3063">51:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3063" data-t="3063">We don't want to replace the state, or excuse me, that's exactly what we want to do. We don't want to destroy the state, We want to replace the state.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3074">51:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3074" data-t="3074">We wanna be the ones printing the money.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3077">51:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3077" data-t="3077">We wanna be the state. That's I mean, that's what that's what this is all for.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3081" data-t="3081">Why else would we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3083" data-t="3083">save all this Bitcoin and deny ourselves</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3086" data-t="3086">the pleasures of the present,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3090" data-t="3090">if not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3091" data-t="3091">for the the hope</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3093">51:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3093" data-t="3093">to become the domineering</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3095" data-t="3095">state forces</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3097" data-t="3097">when we get older and will we have all the wealth.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3102" data-t="3102">100%.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3106">51:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3106" data-t="3106">Do you want to wrap up with talking about protest groups?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3111">51:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3111" data-t="3111">Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about those.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3114" data-t="3114">Did we cover this last on the last episode?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3117" data-t="3117">Ready? Coverage of what's what's allowed with Just Stop Mortals?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3121">52:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3121" data-t="3121">I don't know how much we talked about it, but it would be good to recap it.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3127">52:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3127" data-t="3127">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3128" data-t="3128">So just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3129" data-t="3129">stayed in the house a few weeks ago that they wanna be at the conference in Nashville. They will be protesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3137" data-t="3137">I have I have a feeling that the the animosity between just that mortals and the monetary maximalist fix fix the filters group is only going to grow. That line is probably going</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3149" data-t="3149">to boil over by the time we get to summer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3153" data-t="3153">But they're gonna be they're gonna be protesting. They they plan to disrupt some speakers. They plan to disrupt some activities</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3160">52:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3160" data-t="3160">at the conference.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3161" data-t="3161">I don't know what David Bailey and the the Bitcoin Magazine Group are planning to do in terms of budgets or security to stop them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3169" data-t="3169">But I would say this, I mean, every time you go to the conference, there's there's the exhibit that's it's full of art.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3177" data-t="3177">And usually, it's it's a floor. I mean, I have a feeling this time there's gonna be a lot of digital. There's gonna be a lot of NFTs. There's gonna be a lot of oracles on display,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3186" data-t="3186">and I think that they're gonna they're they're trying they plan to target some of these,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3190" data-t="3190">these pieces of art. I think they're gonna glue themselves</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3193">53:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3193" data-t="3193">to exhibits. They're they're gonna throw some orange paint, and they're they're gonna they're gonna cause a ruckus.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3201" data-t="3201">I don't know what the monetary mass must be gonna do,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3204" data-t="3204">but they because they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3205" data-t="3205">they mostly just whine to complain and kinda cried online</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3209" data-t="3209">about things.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3211" data-t="3211">They haven't really stopped</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3213">53:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3213" data-t="3213">any oracles from making it into the blockchain.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3216" data-t="3216">They haven't really filtered any transactions out of the mempool.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3221" data-t="3221">So I'll be interested to see what they're gonna do,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3224" data-t="3224">you know, at the Bitcoin conference.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3226" data-t="3226">It it might end up being like one of those A and T for Proud Boys</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3230" data-t="3230">showdowns.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3231">53:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3231" data-t="3231">I don't know. I don't I don't wanna see violence</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3233" data-t="3233">at at the at the Bitcoin conference. I I don't have any reason to believe there will be,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3239" data-t="3239">but it is it is a risk. These guys, they're very passionate.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3244" data-t="3244">They test in my heads.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3246" data-t="3246">There could be some really mean tweets</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3249" data-t="3249">between these groups.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3254">54:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3254" data-t="3254">Yeah, if I were Bitcoin Magazine, I'd be concerned about physical altercations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3259" data-t="3259">happening between</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3261" data-t="3261">people in wizard's costumes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3263" data-t="3263">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3264" data-t="3264">individuals throwing orange paint on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3267" data-t="3267">video screens with ordinals on them?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3271">54:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3271" data-t="3271">Yeah. I mean, I guess</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3273">54:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3273" data-t="3273">my biggest concern, and I don't understand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3275" data-t="3275">Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3276" data-t="3276">or my technical inspect well enough to know if this even makes sense.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3281" data-t="3281">But something I am really concerned about and I've been telling some other Bitcoiners about this is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3287" data-t="3287">what if they what if they happen to throw some hay oil?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3290" data-t="3290">It it makes it inside the block, and it it comes up</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3294">54:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3294" data-t="3294">it comes up to block the paint. Like, is that gonna fight? Is that gonna break the blockchain? Is that gonna break my node?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3299" data-t="3299">Like, those it is gonna prevent something like that.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3303">55:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3303" data-t="3303">Yeah. I mean, there's gonna be a lot of companies at the conference demonstrating their node technology</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3309" data-t="3309">that it's probably really important to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3313" data-t="3313">isolate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3314" data-t="3314">those nodes from people with orange paint</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3319" data-t="3319">because that that'd probably be the attack vector, is to, like, go throw orange paint on the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3325" data-t="3325">Ronin Dojo</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3326">55:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3326" data-t="3326">booth.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3328">55:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3328" data-t="3328">As an athlete,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3329" data-t="3329">that may be big, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3332" data-t="3332">a way to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3334" data-t="3334">to mix your paint to get the right color. Maybe you can't find, like, that color of orange that, you know, Sherman Williams that matches the Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3343" data-t="3343">logo's color.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3347" data-t="3347">Like a Ronin Dojo node and it runs it through a mixer with another</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3351">55:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3351" data-t="3351">older paint, you might actually be able to get out of it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3355" data-t="3355">the color that you're looking for. It's worth it's worth trying.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3360">55:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3360" data-t="3360">Do you do you think Runnin' Dojo or Samurai</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3363" data-t="3363">offers that as a service?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3365">56:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3365" data-t="3365">They might already have that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3367" data-t="3367">I think that they do a good enough job,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3370" data-t="3370">convincing people to pay them for their services,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3374" data-t="3374">their Whirlpool stat.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3375" data-t="3375">That, you know, otherwise, you don't really need to use that, but people seem to do it, so they're making pretty good money on that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3382" data-t="3382">But if they're looking for a new revenue stream,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3385">56:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3385" data-t="3385">that's a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3387" data-t="3387">possibility.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3388" data-t="3388">Yeah. That that's definitely a good one for them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3392" data-t="3392">They should have some sort of exhibit,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3395" data-t="3395">like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3398" data-t="3398">that you could, like, do a physical mixing of of, I don't know, something that represents UTXOs or Bitcoin.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3405">56:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3405" data-t="3405">That'd be kinda cool.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3407" data-t="3407">No pain there too.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3409" data-t="3409">Demonstrate it all.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3412">56:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3412" data-t="3412">I don't I don't think either group is really known for their physical prowess,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3417" data-t="3417">the Taproot Wizards or the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3420" data-t="3420">the Just Stop Ordinals people.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3422">57:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3422" data-t="3422">That would be that would be pretty cool, you know, how you have, like, if they were you punched the punching bag, it tells you, like, how how much battle you go behind it. It'd be interesting to have the ordinals the Just Stop ordinals group and the Taproot Wizards and those guys,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3437" data-t="3437">and and put up, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3438" data-t="3438">like, the the thinnest through my wall.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3441" data-t="3441">And see if any of those guys could punch a hole through it. And I bet you they put</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3446" data-t="3446">it. Maybe Peter and Tom will blow down the or, bet on that.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3453">57:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3453" data-t="3453">Breaking news. Peter McCormick has just woken up</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3457" data-t="3457">and noticed the pull.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3461">57:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3461" data-t="3461">Oh, shit.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3463">57:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3463" data-t="3463">He says that, he's calling in his Russian bot farm.</span></span></p>
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