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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3">0:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3" data-t="3">At BlackRock, we understand Bitcoin and Bitcoiners.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-6" data-t="6">That's why we're proud to partner with Citadel Construction Projects around the world to provide best in class property management to Bitcoin's citadels and their citizens.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-15" data-t="15">BlackRock knows real Bitcoiners don't have time to deal with home ownership,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-19" data-t="19">property taxes, or unexpected costs like repairing your own roof.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-25" data-t="25">Bitcoiners understand real estate is a shit coin. That's why bit coiners all across the globe trust BlackRock to be their landlord.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-33" data-t="33">BlackRock will handle all the stress and red tape of compliance</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-37">0:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-37" data-t="37">to make sure your Citadel is up to code so you can focus on raising your family and being able to afford taxes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-43" data-t="43">If you're building a thermodynamically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-45" data-t="45">sound citadel for Bitcoiners and their families,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-48" data-t="48">choose BlackRock Property Management.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-53">0:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-53" data-t="53">Los Angeles is burning. Devastating one of the global hubs for Bitcoin podcasting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-57" data-t="57">The price of bitcoin is crashing because the Fed is being gay with interest rates.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-62" data-t="62">Dennis Porter is bogged down with petty disputes with individuals who are jealous of his announcements.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-67" data-t="67">The Biden administration is working on selling Ross Ulbricht's coins they stole from him before Trump gets into office.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-74" data-t="74">The news looks bearish, but are you bearish? Of course not, because you understand game theory as a result of listening to forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts every week for years.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-85" data-t="85">Podcast listeners around the country are scrambling in a desperate attempt to find dry powder to buy the dip. They know this is an opportunity,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-93">1:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-93" data-t="93">not a setback,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-94" data-t="94">and that everything is going according to plan. The number will go up again because this is a bull market. The number will go up because they listen to Bitcoin podcasts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-103" data-t="103">The number will go up again because Dennis Porter will settle his disputes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-107" data-t="107">allowing him to focus on important price influencing announcements.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-111" data-t="111">There is no reason to fret. Put your trust in our Lord and savior Satoshi, as well as the credentialed opinions of the hosts of this podcast. You are listening to the Bugle weekly podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-122" data-t="122">the most thermodynamically</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-123">2:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-123" data-t="123">sound podcast in Bitcoin.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-130">2:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-130" data-t="130">Alrighty. Welcome to this with me weekly. This is Ian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-134" data-t="134">with your research. Joining me today is as we roll is Don Palmer back from vacation, the second episode,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-141" data-t="141">from vacation to server. I was thinking today that we would take the time to do a recap</span> <span class="cue" id="t-147" data-t="147">of 2024,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-149" data-t="149">since I got Rod back in the studio. I did I did a little bit of a recap on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-154" data-t="154">on the last week of a week with</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-157">2:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-157" data-t="157">just kind of a new review</span> <span class="cue" id="t-160" data-t="160">of some things. But today, I wanted to talk about, like, the balance stats,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-165" data-t="165">what we're looking at, who our biggest supporters are.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-169" data-t="169">I did a Stacker new</span> <span class="cue" id="t-171" data-t="171">post</span> <span class="cue" id="t-172" data-t="172">couple weeks ago that I just wanted to</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-175">2:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-175" data-t="175">go over.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-177" data-t="177">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-179" data-t="179">yeah. But before we get into that, how are you doing today, Ron? What's going on with you? I'm doing today.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-184">3:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-184" data-t="184">Was a very dramatic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-186" data-t="186">week on the timeline. I was really enjoying it. A lot of announcements,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-191" data-t="191">really bullish announcements.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-193" data-t="193">So feeling very bullish right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-195" data-t="195">But, yeah, I forgot. You know, our last night came back from vacation, but that was on behind the podcast. We are,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-202" data-t="202">I'm excited to reflect on last year. It was a it was a great year for the bugle. It was a great year for the bugle.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-211">3:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-211" data-t="211">I mean, it it really seemed like the bugle</span> <span class="cue" id="t-215" data-t="215">got a little bit more serious. We we had some more people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-219" data-t="219">join</span> <span class="cue" id="t-220" data-t="220">and begin helping</span> <span class="cue" id="t-222" data-t="222">in</span> <span class="cue" data-t="222">a more serious manner.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-225">3:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-225" data-t="225">Most noteworthy one was you. When did you specifically interview? How long have you been? We've been doing the podcast for less than a year.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-233">3:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-233" data-t="233">Yeah. And I joined</span> <span class="cue" id="t-235" data-t="235">probably</span> <span class="cue" id="t-237" data-t="237">in q four</span> <span class="cue" id="t-238" data-t="238">of two thousand twenty three,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-241" data-t="241">and we were writing about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-243" data-t="243">anti swanitism,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-244">4:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-244" data-t="244">just off ordinals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-246" data-t="246">and things like that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-248" data-t="248">But we started</span> <span class="cue" id="t-249" data-t="249">a really accelerated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-251" data-t="251">when we started the podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-253" data-t="253">after,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-254">4:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-254" data-t="254">it was after we took over Bitcoin magazine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-258" data-t="258">on April fools, I think, when it really kicked off.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-261">4:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-261" data-t="261">Yeah.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-263">4:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-263" data-t="263">Yeah. I feel like the the first quarter last year was very eventful. So we had March Maxi Madness.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-269" data-t="269">That was huge. That was a hit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-271" data-t="271">And then we rolled into</span> <span class="cue" id="t-277" data-t="277">the Bitcoin magazine takeover.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-279" data-t="279">Had some killer stories in there. That was a lot of fun.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-284">4:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-284" data-t="284">Then we had, the compliance tournament.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-287" data-t="287">The compliance tournament was a real hit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-290" data-t="290">Again,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-291" data-t="291">congratulations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-292" data-t="292">to Peter McCormick. He won. He went out on top. Peter McCormick won</span> <span class="cue" id="t-296" data-t="296">the Bugles compliance tournament</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-298">4:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-298" data-t="298">and promptly retired for Bitcoin podcasting. That's like, you know, sometimes a quarterback wins the Super Bowl, and that's when he retires and it's called going out on top. That's what we did. And it was, you know, the the podcast determines</span> <span class="cue" id="t-313" data-t="313">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-314" data-t="314">all of the action</span> <span class="cue" id="t-316" data-t="316">leading up to the Bitcoin conference in Nashville.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-319" data-t="319">The bugle kind of burst on the scene</span> <span class="cue" id="t-322" data-t="322">for the first time. You know, we've been</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-326">5:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-326" data-t="326">building the intellectual Silk Road,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-329" data-t="329">writing credential journalism, but it caught on and all that hard work paid off. Definitely. And we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-335" data-t="335">we are now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-337" data-t="337">shifting into gear. Like you said, we're more serious. We're more focused</span> <span class="cue" id="t-341" data-t="341">cause we're getting ready for the bull market. And that is when a Bitcoin podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-347" data-t="347">but when they call it podcasts, are the most important. So it's we've gotta lock in, so to speak.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-353">5:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-353" data-t="353">Yep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-355" data-t="355">Yeah. I mean, the the Bitcoin</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-357">5:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-357" data-t="357">blah. Bitcoin podcasting is sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-369">6:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-369" data-t="369">you're just trying to survive</span> <span class="cue" id="t-371" data-t="371">as a podcast, right? You're trying to earn just enough cigarette money</span> <span class="cue" id="t-376" data-t="376">on fountain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-377" data-t="377">to be able to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-379" data-t="379">provide for your family.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-381" data-t="381">And then in the bull market,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-383">6:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-383" data-t="383">you know that your boosts are gonna go up. The values of your boosts are gonna go up. People are gonna be running around feeling rich.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-392" data-t="392">Their trading strategy is gonna be working for the first time. They're gonna be making money,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-398" data-t="398">and they're gonna want</span> <span class="cue" id="t-400" data-t="400">to direct that back at podcasters.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-402" data-t="402">And so essentially,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-404" data-t="404">it it's really a a feast for a short amount of time or at least that's how it's worked historically.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-409">6:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-409" data-t="409">Yeah. And I think a really good</span> <span class="cue" id="t-412" data-t="412">topic and theme that we all learned</span> <span class="cue" id="t-416" data-t="416">in 2024</span> <span class="cue" id="t-418" data-t="418">that when you get into the Bitcoin podcasting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-421" data-t="421">game</span> <span class="cue" data-t="421">and you start your proof of work starts to pay off and you start to get a lot of fountain</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-426">7:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-426" data-t="426">boosts. You start to get like in the fountain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-430" data-t="430">top podcast rankings, like the top 10.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-433" data-t="433">You're going to start</span> <span class="cue" id="t-435" data-t="435">being confronted with the influences,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-438" data-t="438">the pressures,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-439" data-t="439">the psy ops from PodCon.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-442">7:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-442" data-t="442">And you're going to have to learn how to interact with PodCon and how to navigate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-448" data-t="448">the manipulation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-449" data-t="449">that will inevitably</span> <span class="cue" id="t-451" data-t="451">come your way from PodCon in your own way.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-454" data-t="454">And you wanna kinda get to a point where you're independent and you don't have to worry about PodConf anymore,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-460" data-t="460">but they will still sell your t shirts at Bitcoin conferences. That's kinda like the perfect</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-465">7:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-465" data-t="465">relationship basis.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-467" data-t="467">Would you agree with the other room? Do you have a different take? Yeah.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-473">7:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-473" data-t="473">Podcalf definitely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-474" data-t="474">likes to try and scout the talent, and they like to try and sink their fangs into you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-482" data-t="482">if they see you to be valuable to them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-486" data-t="486">You know, it it it starts it starts what kinda seems to be</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-491">8:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-491" data-t="491">an innocent way. Where Well, if you will well, here's a good example.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-495" data-t="495">If you want if you're a young Bitcoin podcaster and you wanna catch podcast attention,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-501" data-t="501">one thing you could do is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-503" data-t="503">dye your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-505" data-t="505">dye up part of your, your bangs blonde.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-508" data-t="508">They will that will be huge shit right away. Or</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-512">8:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-512" data-t="512">be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-513" data-t="513">a be a based hot chick who is really open to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-517" data-t="517">doing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-518" data-t="518">you know, Bitcoin podcast ads for carnivore</span> <span class="cue" id="t-522" data-t="522">companies.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-522">8:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" data-t="522">Yeah.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-524">8:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-524" data-t="524">Another way to get Podkoff's attention</span> <span class="cue" id="t-527" data-t="527">is to just follow the Luke Broyles</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-530">8:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-530" data-t="530">playbook. Yeah. That's how I do. That's that is the the uber bellish child wonder who is much smarter than his years.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-538" data-t="538">Who carries himself like a macro elder that is still in undergraduate school, hasn't even taken macroeconomics</span> <span class="cue" id="t-545" data-t="545">too yet, but he's listed off podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-548" data-t="548">that he's not gonna have to pay attention in class in order to get an a.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-553" data-t="553">Sometimes they drop out though,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-555" data-t="555">and,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-556">9:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-556" data-t="556">they become</span> <span class="cue" id="t-558" data-t="558">macro analyst chart boys themselves. I mean, look at Dylan McClary. He's now running</span> <span class="cue" id="t-562" data-t="562">the most the highest performing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-565" data-t="565">stock in the Japanese economy. So that's huge.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-572">9:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-572" data-t="572">A</span> <span class="cue" id="t-573" data-t="573">lot of people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-574" data-t="574">aspiring to be influencers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-577" data-t="577">what they need to understand is just a way to play their strengths,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-580" data-t="580">whatever it is. Right? So, like, if you're fat and ugly,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-584" data-t="584">you have to come off as really smart</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-586">9:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-586" data-t="586">to kinda overpower</span> <span class="cue" id="t-588" data-t="588">the lack of looks</span> <span class="cue" id="t-590" data-t="590">that you got. If you're If you're if you're</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-594">9:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-594" data-t="594">genuinely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-595" data-t="595">unattractive,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-597" data-t="597">you can always go the the privacy, the Monero influencer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-601" data-t="601">You can always stay men even when you go to conferences or you go to meetups and you have the you run the risk</span> <span class="cue" id="t-608" data-t="608">that one of your biggest fans or followers is a fed, is a spook,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-613" data-t="613">then that mean you can wear a mask and and and perfectly conceal your identity</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-618">10:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-618" data-t="618">even in a podcast conference or a Bitcoin conferences as long as you're a privacy influencer. However,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-625" data-t="625">it is going to attract</span> <span class="cue" id="t-628" data-t="628">fans love those. They're their biggest they love listening to those podcasts, so you it's gonna be hard to know if if a spook is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-635" data-t="635">the government agent working against you or just your biggest fan.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-640">10:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-640" data-t="640">Like, one one of the things that Luke Broyles has done really well is he's identified one of his strengths. So, like, you know, if you're a young person, what you need to do is you need to go get yourself into a niche.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-651" data-t="651">Right? Like Bitcoin, like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-654" data-t="654">knitting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-655" data-t="655">or or any any other niche in which there's influencers like Linux. There's Linux influencers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-662" data-t="662">There's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-665" data-t="665">Python influencers,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-667">11:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-667" data-t="667">there's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-668" data-t="668">all all these various niches that are out there, these these small groups. And all you have to do is you just have to show up in the group, have a very basic understanding of whatever you're talking about,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-679" data-t="679">and just raise your hand and say, hey,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-681" data-t="681">I'm a Zoomer. And then all of a sudden, all these old people will be like, oh, wow, like we wanna encourage the youth.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-689" data-t="689">And then all of a sudden, you know, you get approached by Podkomp</span> <span class="cue" id="t-693" data-t="693">and they wanna they wanna promote you. And it it might turn out that you're not exceptional</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-698">11:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-698" data-t="698">in any way, but, like, when you're young, you wanna you wanna use that as a strength. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-705" data-t="705">You it is a strength,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-708" data-t="708">essentially. Like, you don't wanna waste your youth</span> <span class="cue" id="t-711" data-t="711">having not been an influencer in some small niche,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-714" data-t="714">because it you you have to use your youth to build a platform</span> <span class="cue" id="t-719" data-t="719">in which then to build a career of influencing on top of. Right?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-725">12:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-725" data-t="725">Nick Carter did this. Will Clemente did this. Luke Broyles is doing this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-730" data-t="730">I'm sure there's gonna be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-733" data-t="733">many other</span> <span class="cue" id="t-734" data-t="734">boy young boy wonder like, you know, Dylan LeClaire has done this, but the thing about Dylan LeClaire is I think he's actually smart.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-742" data-t="742">Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-746" data-t="746">Another way to like, if if you're fat and ugly so, like, British HODL is, like, a good example.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-752">12:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-752" data-t="752">The the way to do things like British HODL</span> <span class="cue" id="t-756" data-t="756">is to just brag about how rich you are.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-760">12:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-760" data-t="760">And you have to smoke cigars. You gotta smoke cigars. You gotta you gotta look like you live</span> <span class="cue" id="t-767" data-t="767">a very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-768" data-t="768">sophisticated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-770" data-t="770">life because you are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-772" data-t="772">a sophisticated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-773" data-t="773">macro Bitcoin podcaster,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-776">12:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-776" data-t="776">and you're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-777" data-t="777">you're trading with leverage. You are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-780" data-t="780">all in.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-781" data-t="781">And why would somebody follow you and listen to what you're talking about if you don't look successful?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-788">13:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-788" data-t="788">Alright. One of one of the best,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-792" data-t="792">studies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-794" data-t="794">or case studies of this phenomenon,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-796" data-t="796">which we're talking about is</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-799">13:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-799" data-t="799">BitBoy, Ben Armstrong. No. You mean he bought Lamborghinis?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-802" data-t="802">Oh, look at, Richard Hart. Richard Hart had Rolexes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-806" data-t="806">He had Gucci suits. He had two different,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-810" data-t="810">Lamborghinis. And then</span> <span class="cue" id="t-812" data-t="812">who's the king of this? Right? It's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-815" data-t="815">Andrew Tate. Everybody knows that Andrew Tate is highly successful. He is the alpha</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-821">13:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-821" data-t="821">predator of the Bitcoin community. I mean, he just called out. We talked about this. He called up Peter McCormick. He took out, I mean, the biggest podcaster in the space and he just kind of bitch slapped him, called him gay and fat.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-833" data-t="833">And he wears Rolexes and he has tons of women.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-837" data-t="837">That is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-839" data-t="839">how people, I mean, if you want people to take you seriously about Bitcoin, you need to project that kind of aura.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-846">14:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-846" data-t="846">Yeah. I think they call that, bravado.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-849">14:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-849" data-t="849">Bravado. Yeah.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-851">14:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-851" data-t="851">It's it's really a fake it until you make it strategy. And then when you made it,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-857">14:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-857" data-t="857">how do you how do you know?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-859" data-t="859">When do you know that you can drop the bravado?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-862">14:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-862" data-t="862">That</span> <span class="cue" id="t-863" data-t="863">that that really is a good question.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-866" data-t="866">I I think everybody has different definitions of what it means to them for making it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-871" data-t="871">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-872" data-t="872">whether that's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-874" data-t="874">ranking number one on</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-877">14:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-877" data-t="877">the fountain boost for a week,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-879" data-t="879">whether that's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-880" data-t="880">ranking number one on wave like having a number one</span> <span class="cue" id="t-885" data-t="885">trending song on there for a period of time. Whether that's speaking at the conference on the main stage,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-892" data-t="892">whether that's speaking on the conference at the conference on one of the side stages,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-897" data-t="897">whether that's going on what Bitcoin did with Danny Knowles</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-901">15:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-901" data-t="901">or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-902" data-t="902">going on TFTC with Marty</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-907">15:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-907" data-t="907">or, Oh, yeah. I mean, think about how many people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-910" data-t="910">who have been working really hard. Maybe they've done a little bit too much bravado,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-914" data-t="914">but they got to the Sailor one hundred k yacht party and they they realized</span> <span class="cue" id="t-920" data-t="920">I am now spending New Year's Eve with people like Neil Jacobs and the crypto couple.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-925" data-t="925">I made it. This is what I've been working so hard for. I can drop it. I have you know, I, I made it to the club. Yeah. I mean, I guess for some people,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-936">15:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-936" data-t="936">they think they make it when they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-938" data-t="938">hang out with their heroes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-940" data-t="940">in person.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-941" data-t="941">The people that orange build them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-943" data-t="943">That that might to them feel like they make it. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-947" data-t="947">you know,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-950">15:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-950" data-t="950">I I think a lot of people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-952" data-t="952">what they're just searching for, what they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-956" data-t="956">the level of satisfaction that they wanna experience is just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-960" data-t="960">being able to provide for their family and having been able to afford taxes for their year. So different people have different levels of ambition.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-968" data-t="968">Like for Dennis Porter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-970" data-t="970">for example, you could tell he's still hungry. He's achieved a lot, right?</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-974">16:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-974" data-t="974">He got banned</span> <span class="cue" id="t-976" data-t="976">from the Bitcoin conference.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-978" data-t="978">He has a big social media following.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-982" data-t="982">He gets invited. He's been on everybody's podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-985" data-t="985">except for ours. He he he's been around</span> <span class="cue" id="t-989" data-t="989">he's been around the block to say the least.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-991">16:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-991" data-t="991">But in his mind,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-994" data-t="994">the next tick</span> <span class="cue" id="t-995" data-t="995">on his checklist is to become a US senator</span> <span class="cue" id="t-999" data-t="999">and then after that to become the president of The United States.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1003" data-t="1003">And so that that's that's like a different level ambition than just wanting to pay your taxes and hang out with your favorite Bitcoin podcaster. Right. And you can tell you can tell who that applies to.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1016">16:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1016" data-t="1016">Some people are at</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1019" data-t="1019">a a sailor yacht party, and they're just happy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1021" data-t="1021">to see anybody that they recognize from Twitter or from Fountain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1026" data-t="1026">and to be able to talk to them and hang out with them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1029" data-t="1029">And there's some people who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1031" data-t="1031">they're not satisfied with just being able to pay their taxes.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1034">17:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1034" data-t="1034">They want an orange pill,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1036" data-t="1036">the senate. They want an orange pill. They wanna be a part of the strategic Bitcoin reserve. They want to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1041" data-t="1041">build</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1043" data-t="1043">the next</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1045" data-t="1045">cyber warfare</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1047" data-t="1047">protocol for the CIA</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1049">17:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1049" data-t="1049">and the Navy SEALs on Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1052" data-t="1052">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1053" data-t="1053">those people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1055" data-t="1055">don't have time to just hang out with any podcaster that happens to also be paying their taxes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1061" data-t="1061">and go into sailor parties. They need to talk to the elite. And it's just a matter of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1067" data-t="1067">recognizing</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1068">17:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1068" data-t="1068">who values</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1070" data-t="1070">their time at a party like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1073" data-t="1073">the salaried party and who is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1076" data-t="1076">who is really focused on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1079" data-t="1079">talking to the people who can afford their taxes the most? Yeah, that's a good point.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1085" data-t="1085">It's, you know,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1087">18:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1087" data-t="1087">it's any anytime you are at a Bitcoin event,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1091" data-t="1091">you're going to be under more pressure and you're going to your time is going to be much more valuable,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1099" data-t="1099">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1100" data-t="1100">the more you are able to afford a higher tax,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1103" data-t="1103">the most taxes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1105" data-t="1105">So that is a signal of power.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1108">18:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1108" data-t="1108">And that's going to attract podcasters,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1111" data-t="1111">politicians,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1112" data-t="1112">feds,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1113" data-t="1113">and friends.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1115" data-t="1115">And you just have to be able to, navigate that.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1118">18:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1118" data-t="1118">Totally. Well, kinda getting into the numbers for this year, so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1122" data-t="1122">I just wanna talk about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1125" data-t="1125">what we've accomplished</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1127" data-t="1127">as the b u l. It's kinda hard to we I don't think we got a whole lot of direct donations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1133" data-t="1133">on BDC and PACE over this year. I feel like</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1136">18:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1136" data-t="1136">we have a new prior in 2023,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1139" data-t="1139">which</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1140">19:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1140" data-t="1140">We got a lot more found boosts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1143" data-t="1143">Yeah. Have a lot more fountain boosts.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1146">19:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1146" data-t="1146">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1147" data-t="1147">definitely the year of the fountain boost.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1150">19:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1150" data-t="1150">2024</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1151" data-t="1151">was also if I mean, it it deals like a lot longer ago.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1155" data-t="1155">If we ever think it back to June 20 2024,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1159" data-t="1159">the ETF,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1160" data-t="1160">will it or will it not be approved?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1162" data-t="1162">Well, is the SEC's tweet is that real? Can we actually trust the SEC to tweet out something psyopy?</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1170">19:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1170" data-t="1170">And people just they had they laughed when they when the bugle tried to talk about our credentials and how important credentials were.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1177" data-t="1177">They'll laugh anymore.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1179" data-t="1179">We put credentials back on the map. We we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1182" data-t="1182">reoriented</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1184" data-t="1184">people's attention away from the mainstream media into Bitcoin podcasts. And I think that is probably our biggest success, which is harder</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1192" data-t="1192">to measure with fountain boost. I agree.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1196">19:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1196" data-t="1196">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1197" data-t="1197">looking at a year in recap, so the People Weekly earned 4,300,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1202" data-t="1202">stats,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1204" data-t="1204">which is a very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1205" data-t="1205">impressive number,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1207">20:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1207" data-t="1207">in my opinion. It usually takes a podcast a lot longer to generate millions in revenue,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1212" data-t="1212">but we get it at first year, not even a full year.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1216" data-t="1216">Millions in revenue.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1217">20:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1217" data-t="1217">That's a success story. Let's see how many cigarettes that buys. So 4,300,000.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1222">20:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1222" data-t="1222">Yeah. Put that in perspective. A million is a lot. It's hard to fathom.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1227">20:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1227" data-t="1227">It's it's 4,300</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1230">20:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1230" data-t="1230">cigarettes. If you if you say that it takes how long to smoke a cigarette, five minutes?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1236" data-t="1236">Well, how much time? How much time did you just buy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1240" data-t="1240">with Bitcoin? Your future is measured in time. How much time did you purchase or did you earn or did we earn</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1248" data-t="1248">to be able to smoke a cigarette?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1250" data-t="1250">It just be bullish.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1253" data-t="1253">4,300</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1254">20:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1254" data-t="1254">times five. I I don't know. That's a long cigarette. I I think you're thinking you're smoking American spirit. That's a number</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1261" data-t="1261">that's burning on the master show. That's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1264" data-t="1264">twenty one thousand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1266" data-t="1266">five hundred minutes.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1268">21:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1268" data-t="1268">Twenty one thousand five hundred minutes. That</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1271" data-t="1271">that's all if money is time, we just earned 21,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1275" data-t="1275">minutes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1276" data-t="1276">to smoke cigarettes and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1279" data-t="1279">not not to worry about anything else.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1282">21:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1282" data-t="1282">Yep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1284" data-t="1284">Some more numbers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1286" data-t="1286">to just put this in perspective. That's 215</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1289" data-t="1289">packs of cigarettes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1292" data-t="1292">or 21 and a half</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1294" data-t="1294">cartons of cigarettes. There's a,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1296">21:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1296" data-t="1296">I keep hearing that number 21. Yeah. It's a very magical number. It it shows up everywhere. I mean, this it's like one of the things about listening to enough Bitcoin podcasts is you start to see the world divided by 21,000,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1308" data-t="1308">and you just see that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1310" data-t="1310">become more of a reality.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1313" data-t="1313">Everywhere you look, you see the number 21. You just divide things by 21,000,000.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1318" data-t="1318">You divide things by 21</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1321">22:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1321" data-t="1321">and a half cartons of cigarettes. Oh, yeah. Don't think about it. People are like they criticize Bitcoin and they say, Oh,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1328" data-t="1328">you still denominate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1330" data-t="1330">everything in USDT.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1332" data-t="1332">Nobody's ever gonna nominate everything in Bitcoin. You'll only nominate in USDT.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1337" data-t="1337">But, yeah,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1338" data-t="1338">for their math, that all SAPs need to be the standard. SAPs are the standard. And maybe,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1343">22:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1343" data-t="1343">what definitely is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1346" data-t="1346">the standard is 21,000,000.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1348" data-t="1348">And more and more people as Bitcoin has already won start to see the m two money supply divided by 21,000,000.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1355" data-t="1355">They start to see the bond market divided by 21,000,000.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1359" data-t="1359">The real estate market divided by 21,000,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1362" data-t="1362">and everything they see. And they say, wow, that is an expensive fucking part of the inflation side. Let me divide that by 21,000,000.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1371">22:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1371" data-t="1371">And that's your denomination in Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1374" data-t="1374">21,000,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1375" data-t="1375">is the is the is the standard. So out of those</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1378">22:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1378" data-t="1378">4,300,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1379" data-t="1379">SaaS,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1381">23:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1381" data-t="1381">that can be The reason is the difference in order. So</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1385">23:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1385" data-t="1385">we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1386" data-t="1386">Viva Weekly had a 128</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1388" data-t="1388">different boosters</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1390">23:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1390" data-t="1390">throughout the year. Is that is that count all</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1394" data-t="1394">of Pies individual boosts or does that aggregate those into because Pies would have been way more than a 121.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1401">23:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1401" data-t="1401">Right. That's all the different accounts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1403" data-t="1403">is the way I think it</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1405">23:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1405" data-t="1405">Gotcha. Okay. Okay.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1407">23:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1407" data-t="1407">So, I mean, there's a there's definitely a potential that boosters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1412" data-t="1412">some of them didn't have found an accounts and that so they came up as anonymous users.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1417" data-t="1417">So it could be less.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1419">23:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1419" data-t="1419">I don't think it could be Certainly. That's why some people use NoStru. They want that privacy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1423" data-t="1423">The privacy is a little more important to them. They don't wanna end up in somebody else's fountain rewind</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1429" data-t="1429">and, you know, the wrong eyes see that. Yeah. The the</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1433">23:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1433" data-t="1433">like, if you average</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1435" data-t="1435">out the amount of SaaS</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1438" data-t="1438">in a this isn't how it works. Like, some people boosted more than others. But if you averaged out the total SaaS that we received across the 128</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1447" data-t="1447">different people that boosted us,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1449" data-t="1449">it comes out to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1451" data-t="1451">33,593</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1453">24:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1453" data-t="1453">SaaS per booster, which is pretty cool.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1456">24:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1456" data-t="1456">Oh, that's another magic number.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1459">24:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1459" data-t="1459">Yeah. Let's calculate the USDT value of that just to give people perspective. So today,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1467" data-t="1467">the SaaS</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1468" data-t="1468">per USDT rate is 1,061.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1473" data-t="1473">But it's kinda nice with Bitcoin operating around this range because it makes the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1478" data-t="1478">the SAT to USDT</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1480" data-t="1480">conversion incredibly easy.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1482">24:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1482" data-t="1482">Right around that number, round and round. Copy out.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1485">24:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1485" data-t="1485">Yeah. This is a great time for people to be paying attention to Bitcoin a little bit more closely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1491" data-t="1491">and kind</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1492" data-t="1492">of With</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1494" data-t="1494">nearly a 100 ks just makes that SAC conversion. It makes everything way easier. That's why this is just the beginning in a bull market, I think. Yeah. It's about $31</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1502">25:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1502" data-t="1502">a person</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1503" data-t="1503">that works out. 31 USP per person. I don't know.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1507" data-t="1507">That's pretty good if you think about it. I'd like to encourage people to boost. Jacob Morphew (3five thirty three): Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1513">25:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1513" data-t="1513">spent</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1515" data-t="1515">1,600,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1516" data-t="1516">sat boosting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1518" data-t="1518">podcasts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1519" data-t="1519">in 2024.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1521" data-t="1521">And,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1523">25:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1523" data-t="1523">I know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1524" data-t="1524">I I think I'm proud to be the in the 1,000,000 plus club. And I think that everybody should strive to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1531" data-t="1531">invest</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1532" data-t="1532">1,000,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1533" data-t="1533">sats per year minimum</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1535" data-t="1535">into the value for value economy because</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1539">25:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1539" data-t="1539">I earned</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1541" data-t="1541">way more</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1542" data-t="1542">than 1,600,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1543" data-t="1543">sats back from the value for value economy through my podcast and through Noister,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1549" data-t="1549">through Wavelake.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1551" data-t="1551">So it's been</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1553">25:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1553" data-t="1553">a it's probably been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1554" data-t="1554">the best performing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1557" data-t="1557">investment I've made other than Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1559" data-t="1559">directly.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1560">26:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1560" data-t="1560">Is</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1561">26:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1561" data-t="1561">there is there an easy way to see your Gnostr boost that you received over the year? No, there's nothing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1568" data-t="1568">that's easy to do on Noister. That's so surprising. Yeah. I mean, I I boosted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1573" data-t="1573">I was I was less than you, but I boosted 925,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1578" data-t="1578">stats. Most of it was the three shows that I sent the majority of the boost to were</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1584" data-t="1584">Ungovernable Misfits,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1586" data-t="1586">High Hash</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1588">26:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1588" data-t="1588">Rate, and Rock Paper Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1590" data-t="1590">I feel like I owe Rock Paper Bitcoin more.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1593" data-t="1593">It's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1594" data-t="1594">I gotta</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1595" data-t="1595">it's really hard with their show because they they put it out every other week. So it's kinda hard to catch a rhythm with listening to it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1603" data-t="1603">Whereas</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1604">26:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1604" data-t="1604">a lot a lot of other shows are more regular.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1607">26:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1607" data-t="1607">The other thing with Rocket, Pepper, Bitcoin is it's such a good podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1611" data-t="1611">but they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1612" data-t="1612">they don't promote it and market it. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1616" data-t="1616">they need to promote their podcast more,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1620" data-t="1620">because I sometimes I'll forget that it came out because they they didn't tweet about it or they didn't send it to the group chat. So You know what I mean? Like it's If I miss it, it's like, dang, I miss more like a Bitcoin podcast. But if they advertised,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1634">27:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1634" data-t="1634">I'd never forget. Jason Robert Vaughn (3five thirty seven): You would think that fundamentals would be a little bit better at that seeing that he's kind</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1642" data-t="1642">of hereditarily</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1644" data-t="1644">predispositioned</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1645">27:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1645" data-t="1645">to be successful in media. You know what I mean?</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1649">27:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1649" data-t="1649">Right. Not only</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1650" data-t="1650">is he Jin Ji should know better. Not only</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1653" data-t="1653">has he been,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1656" data-t="1656">trained for the media predisposition, excuse me, for the media</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1659" data-t="1659">and for finances and for economics.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1663" data-t="1663">So he should know better. So he doesn't have an excuse not to do it. My,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1668">27:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1668" data-t="1668">my boosting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1669" data-t="1669">puts me according to found it in the top 1%</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1673" data-t="1673">of boosters</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1674">27:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1674" data-t="1674">on the platform. Me as well. Yeah. Yeah. We are we are the 1%.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1679">27:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1679" data-t="1679">I I think it's really important to be engaged in the value for value</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1683" data-t="1683">economy as much as possible. Like, it can't just be a one way street. You know what I mean? Because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1688" data-t="1688">Right. You want</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1690" data-t="1690">like, the the mission</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1691" data-t="1691">to this is to destroy Podkoff,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1694" data-t="1694">and</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1695">28:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1695" data-t="1695">we need the economy to grow. And, like, sometimes to get the economy to grow, you have spend into it. We don't we don't have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1702" data-t="1702">government agencies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1703" data-t="1703">subsidizing the value for value economy. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1707" data-t="1707">the podcasters have to subsidize it themselves.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1709">28:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1709" data-t="1709">Right. Yeah. And that's what I wanna do. That's my point about fundamentals.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1713" data-t="1713">Then it's not it's not just him.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1716" data-t="1716">It's that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1717" data-t="1717">to engage in the the value for value economy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1721" data-t="1721">Sometimes you could be so proud</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1723" data-t="1723">of the work that you're doing, of the value that you're providing</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1727">28:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1727" data-t="1727">that you boost</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1729" data-t="1729">like, you you you you want VonMiner.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1731" data-t="1731">He boosts us. He engages with us in v four v.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1734" data-t="1734">He's like, hey. Look at this spicy beef jerky that I have. So I go and buy spicy beef jerky from him. And other people are saying, look at this this Bitcoin podcast I recorded or this article I wrote, and they they tap you or they send you the the SaaS. They're paying you value</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1749" data-t="1749">because they know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1750" data-t="1750">that,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1751">29:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1751" data-t="1751">their product or their content</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1753" data-t="1753">is gonna be worth your time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1755" data-t="1755">And that's how you and that's how you start that exchange. You build that market, that relationship,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1760" data-t="1760">and you start to see whether you can partner for where you can team up with them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1766" data-t="1766">and where they're most valuable for your most valuable for each other. We can provide for each other. You can have a thermodynamically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1772" data-t="1772">sound</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1773">29:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1773" data-t="1773">venture.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1775" data-t="1775">Totally.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1777">29:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1777" data-t="1777">Well, yeah. I mean, yeah, our top sellers for the year let me just go through this real quick. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1782" data-t="1782">John</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1784" data-t="1784">from Ungovernable Misfits is number one.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1788" data-t="1788">He came in first place with 757,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1793" data-t="1793">SaaS.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1795" data-t="1795">Very impressive boost numbers right there.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1798">29:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1798" data-t="1798">Number two was miss Hoddleknot,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1800" data-t="1800">four twenty,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1803" data-t="1803">your fling,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1804" data-t="1804">that happened in 2024,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1806" data-t="1806">I guess that was kind of a big thing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1809" data-t="1809">She boosted us 382,000</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1811">30:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1811" data-t="1811">SAS,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1813" data-t="1813">Fundamentals came in third place. So this is a very impressive accomplishment</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1817" data-t="1817">for the bugle. We were able to get 367,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1823" data-t="1823">out of the hands of a Jewish man. That's how you know and that's how you measure that's that is how you measure it right there. I think I kinda think that fundamental so John, just based on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1834" data-t="1834">the preliminary knowledge that we have,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1837" data-t="1837">based on him just boosting</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1839">30:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1839" data-t="1839">this show, In him just boosting this show, he's probably in the 1%</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1844" data-t="1844">top 1% of found in boosters.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1847" data-t="1847">It'd be interesting to get fundamentals because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1850" data-t="1850">his stats because I I figure he's probably in the top 1%. I feel like his numbers are similar to yours and mine.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1858" data-t="1858">He's probably close to a million sats or more</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1862" data-t="1862">because I know fundamentals boost other shows</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1865">31:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1865" data-t="1865">besides our show. But I just wanted to say, so those are top three. So John, miss Huddlenut,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1870" data-t="1870">and then fundamentals. Number four</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1872" data-t="1872">is We All Eat, big supporter of the show. So one of the things I wanna say about We All Eat</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1877" data-t="1877">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1878" data-t="1878">this individual has contributed to the bugle</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1882" data-t="1882">pretty much from the very beginning in a variety of ways.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1887">31:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1887" data-t="1887">And wanna shoot him a big thank you for all of his support. He calls us gay and faggots periodically though, but I don't really know what to make of that.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1897">31:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1897" data-t="1897">Well, that's the when you have contributed enough value</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1901" data-t="1901">to a value for value relationship,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1903" data-t="1903">you get to call the other person</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1906" data-t="1906">retarded.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1908" data-t="1908">And, you know,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1910">31:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1910" data-t="1910">it's not it's not a negative. Well, let let let's expand this to, like, romantic relationships. So, like, how much how much do you have to give your wife or your girlfriend</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1919" data-t="1919">to be able to call her retarded? I guess I guess it kinda depends on the individual, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1926" data-t="1926">I I It's all about trade offs. What do you mean?</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1929">32:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1929" data-t="1929">Well, I mean, sometimes you might get a girl who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1933" data-t="1933">you don't have to contribute any value and you can get away with it right away,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1937" data-t="1937">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1938" data-t="1938">she probably will be retarded.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1941" data-t="1941">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1942" data-t="1942">that's why it's not gonna be worth it.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1944">32:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1944" data-t="1944">But you could find somebody who,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1947" data-t="1947">you have to contribute a lot of value before you get to call them that. But it might be better overall. We're betting more than what they have excel.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1955" data-t="1955">But, yeah. Yeah. Got to meet some of our biggest</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1959" data-t="1959">our biggest blisters this year for the first time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1962" data-t="1962">So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1963" data-t="1963">you know, miss Hogglenaut</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1965">32:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1965" data-t="1965">was probably the most</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1969" data-t="1969">talked about, the most salacious,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1971" data-t="1971">but I got to meet a bunch of other people as well and created some pretty good friendships and then looking forward to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1978" data-t="1978">to try to meet them in person and trying to get them to produce me more sass</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1982" data-t="1982">on fountain</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1983">33:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1983" data-t="1983">in the future. Yeah. Let me let me blast through the rest of this list</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1987" data-t="1987">over top booster. So after, we all eat at number four, we have Stack Atoshi at number five for 316,260</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1997" data-t="1997">sass.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1998" data-t="1998">We got like a I I remember this. So I think we only got like a handful of boost from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2004" data-t="2004">but they were they were mostly large.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2008">33:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2008" data-t="2008">And there was Yeah. He was like whale he was whale boosting.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2012">33:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2012" data-t="2012">Yeah. There there was a contest at one point of different individuals. I think John got a little bit frustrated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2020" data-t="2020">because I was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2021" data-t="2021">I mean, Stackitoshi sent us a 100,000 SAP boost,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2025" data-t="2025">and I mentioned that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2026" data-t="2026">And all of a sudden, John was like, I need to send a bigger boost. Fundamentals came in and suddenly he needed to send me bigger boost too. So they were all kinda like one up in each other by like one sat and that was pretty funny.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2041">34:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2041" data-t="2041">Yeah. Boosting dip measuring contest. That was funny.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2044">34:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2044" data-t="2044">Yep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2045" data-t="2045">And then we had Orange Mart</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2047" data-t="2047">and Open Mic.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2048" data-t="2048">So Open Mic, a 154,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2051" data-t="2051">sats. Thank you, Open Mic. And then Orange Mart for a 138,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2056" data-t="2056">sats.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2057">34:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2057" data-t="2057">Open Mic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2058" data-t="2058">created this trend, which is interesting, which is the bugle mile high club.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2063" data-t="2063">So he likes to listen to the bugle when he's on the airplane.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2067" data-t="2067">Guess what?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2069" data-t="2069">Oh, Open Mic's the creator of a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2072" data-t="2072">what what it's called Toonster.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2074">34:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2074" data-t="2074">Right? Did I get that right? Yeah. That sounds right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2077">34:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2077" data-t="2077">So Yeah. And they and they have some live event in in Texas recently, Austin, Mcfountain. Right?</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2084">34:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2084" data-t="2084">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2085" data-t="2085">So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2086" data-t="2086">you know, there's different individuals trying to produce content on these value for value</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2091" data-t="2091">platforms and then there's people like Open Mic that are building the value for value platforms.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2096" data-t="2096">I could see us using Tunster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2098" data-t="2098">in the future, you know, when we're at the point where we're performing music</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2102">35:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2102" data-t="2102">live.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2104" data-t="2104">That's a good platform</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2106" data-t="2106">that I plan on on using.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2109">35:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2109" data-t="2109">So we'll use</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2110" data-t="2110">zap.stream</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2112" data-t="2112">more</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2113">35:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2113" data-t="2113">in the future. Yeah. So Tunster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2115" data-t="2115">is very similar to zap. Stream as far as I can tell.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2120" data-t="2120">The biggest difference is it seems to have more of a music focus instead of just like a general streaming focus. One of one of the things that I really wanted to do over this past year, which I didn't really get around to do, is do a lot of live streams playing video games.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2134" data-t="2134">I wanted to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2136" data-t="2136">play some Call of Duty</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2138" data-t="2138">and and live stream that but we didn't get around to do that I guess I think I think it's the bull market it's like</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2146">35:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2146" data-t="2146">playing video games. That's like that's what you do in the bear market. But in the bull market, it's just too busy. You think so?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2153" data-t="2153">Yeah. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2154" data-t="2154">if you can't code,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2156" data-t="2156">then you can't pay all in the bear market. So there's nothing for you to do. If you're not a developer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2162" data-t="2162">there's really Bitcoin doesn't need you during the bear market. You're just kind of an annoying</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2166" data-t="2166">drag potentially.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2168">36:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2168" data-t="2168">So that's why you should just focus on playing video games. When the bull market's coming, that's when you need to be orange pilling people. You need to be stacking sets. You need to be engaged. But the bandwagon, it's just it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2181" data-t="2181">if you get before we do taxes, just feel free to play video games.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2185">36:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2185" data-t="2185">Yeah. I I think the problem is I just didn't find anybody to do it with.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2189" data-t="2189">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2190" data-t="2190">I I did go to the orange bar to monologue. That that was an event that was pretty interesting. So the the last booster on our list of top boosters is the orange bar,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2201" data-t="2201">who I'm a big fan. I unfortunately didn't spend as much time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2206" data-t="2206">there as I wanted to. And I think the problem</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2209" data-t="2209">is</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2210">36:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2210" data-t="2210">is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2211" data-t="2211">the level of commitment</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2213" data-t="2213">required to get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2215" data-t="2215">sufficiently good enough at Ross to understand what you're doing to to even be able to figure out how to wear clothes. Like, when I went there, I was naked.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2224" data-t="2224">I couldn't figure out where to find clothes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2226" data-t="2226">or how to make clothes.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2228">37:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2228" data-t="2228">And fortunately, somebody provided them to me, but I think I lost them after that.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2234">37:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2234" data-t="2234">Because I should just be able to go right away. So you like a Bitcoin conference and buy a podcast t shirt, Bitcoin pajamas pants,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2242" data-t="2242">Celio</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2243" data-t="2243">Fox, Orange Cross. Like, that should be, like, the very beginning of the game.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2248">37:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2248" data-t="2248">Well, I think you can do that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2250" data-t="2250">in Orange Mort. I just haven't been able to figure out how to do that. I mean, it's like, we need BGC sessions to do tutorials</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2258" data-t="2258">on how to play Rust.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2261">37:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2261" data-t="2261">Yeah. Honestly, getting beat out with the answer. BGC sessions tutorials</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2265" data-t="2265">with for Rust.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2267" data-t="2267">Launch my</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2269" data-t="2269">I mean, that's they're gonna have through the roof of the new IPO.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2273">37:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2273" data-t="2273">Totally.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2275">37:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2275" data-t="2275">It's it's definitely not yeah. It it might be that it just takes me a little bit of time to do these things</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2283" data-t="2283">to to figure them out. That might be the problem. It might be me. It might not be the orange part.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2287" data-t="2287">For the average Bitcoin user,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2290">38:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2290" data-t="2290">they might be able to get in there and Yeah. There shouldn't there shouldn't be there shouldn't be some sort of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2295" data-t="2295">guide. Kind Kinda like it. Like, when you go to buy clothes, like a Podkomp t shirt,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2300" data-t="2300">it's like a size guide. It talks about, like, this many inches. It kind of talks about your dimensions and which size you should pick. But it's like if you go to Orange Mart, it's like, how hard is it to figure out rest? It's like, well, if it took you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2312" data-t="2312">an hour to figure out a cold card or it took you a week or if it took you, you know, ten minutes to set up a lightning node and they're out of balance or channels, sometimes that takes some people never figure that out.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2324" data-t="2324">So it it kinda needs to know, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2326" data-t="2326">what level of difficulty</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2329">38:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2329" data-t="2329">is this before I will be, like, time my forty hours of tutorials</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2333">38:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2333" data-t="2333">completion rate. I just don't wanna throw a party in Orange Mart. I think that would be a lot of fun at some point.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2339">38:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2339" data-t="2339">Yeah. For sure. We do a live show, a live meet up in Orange Mart.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2344">39:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2344" data-t="2344">Totally.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2346" data-t="2346">But, yeah, that kind of wraps up,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2350" data-t="2350">top boosters.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2351" data-t="2351">We were the eleventh biggest show</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2353" data-t="2353">on.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2354">39:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2354" data-t="2354">Don't forget. And we also before we get out of this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2357" data-t="2357">didn't date the flood Myers and the government misfits points and hash</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2362" data-t="2362">to the bugle</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2363">39:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2363" data-t="2363">for a while this year for last year. Yeah. I don't know if this individual wants us to share that they did it, but we we had an individual that did point us hash. So I I know John I don't I don't think John cares, but John pointed, I think, of almost a petahash at us for a little bit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2381" data-t="2381">And then,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2384" data-t="2384">an individual close to the show</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2387" data-t="2387">who knows who they are pointed at s nine at us for, like, the entire winter last year, and that was pretty cool. They canceled me wrong last year. Thank you for that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2398" data-t="2398">Yeah. Yeah. It was great.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2402" data-t="2402">Yeah. I I think the eleventh</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2404">40:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2404" data-t="2404">biggest show on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2407" data-t="2407">founding was pretty cool. It does it does suck to see that Mr. Obnoxious</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2413" data-t="2413">was above us.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2415" data-t="2415">It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2416" data-t="2416">not surprising to see ungovernable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2419" data-t="2419">misfits and no agenda</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2421">40:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2421" data-t="2421">ahead of us</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2423" data-t="2423">and some of these other more,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2426" data-t="2426">established</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2427" data-t="2427">podcasters that have been doing this longer. The the people have to remember, the Bugle Weekly has only existed for a year.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2434">40:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2434" data-t="2434">How much, how many saps</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2437" data-t="2437">in 2024</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2438" data-t="2438">did we end up</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2440" data-t="2440">donating to,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2442">40:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2442" data-t="2442">samurai? That's a very good question.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2446" data-t="2446">I don't have a number on it, but I I would assume it's probably it's probably close to half 1,000,000 sats. That's what I would estimate it at. Nice. So, yeah, just a little just a a side effect of the value for value is just payment splits, which help you easily</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2462">41:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2462" data-t="2462">redirect some of your energy, some of your stats to, to causes like that. So the defense to fight against the state and the feds</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2469" data-t="2469">who are,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2471" data-t="2471">it shouldn't be illegal to launder money</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2474" data-t="2474">in a democracy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2475" data-t="2475">And we're that's just something we stand for.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2478">41:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2478" data-t="2478">Yeah. I I didn't do a payment split. I want I asked,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2483" data-t="2483">I asked the Bitcoin Policy Institute to set up a found account so that we could do the payment splits, but they never got around to it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2491" data-t="2491">So I was just donating manually on p2prights.org,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2497">41:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2497" data-t="2497">which is a great website that you could go over</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2500">41:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2500" data-t="2500">and donate. Yeah.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2502">41:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2502" data-t="2502">So I would suggest it's okay.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2505" data-t="2505">Some people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2506" data-t="2506">it's it's a natural bull market, but just all this drama</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2509" data-t="2509">between Bitcoin magazine, David Bailey, Dennis Porter and EPI about who who's doing it, who's behind the strategic Bitcoin reserve Kinda takes up time and it just takes up resources,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2520" data-t="2520">that could have been going towards</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2522" data-t="2522">fighting for the samurai</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2524">42:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2524" data-t="2524">devs. You know, all they had to do was make that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2527" data-t="2527">make that that account, and they wouldn't even put that much of effort into defending them. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2532" data-t="2532">make sure what let's you know they're really studying case law in there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2536" data-t="2536">in the offices.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2538">42:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2538" data-t="2538">Yeah. I would I would pin all of that on David Bailey.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2541" data-t="2541">It's all his fault.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2543" data-t="2543">All the all the drama taken away from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2546" data-t="2546">people supporting samurai.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2548">42:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2548" data-t="2548">Yeah. Yes. It's tough. But yeah. It's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2551" data-t="2551">yeah. We we got a lot of sound boosts and I was also curious about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2557" data-t="2557">Blake Blake</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2558" data-t="2558">music.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2559" data-t="2559">That was a huge debut and it's grown really quickly. Yeah. I,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2564">42:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2564" data-t="2564">I was doing the math and it's kinda hard to do the math do math and have a conversation at the same time. I was trying to add up all the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2572" data-t="2572">just the it only shows me the income from the top 10 songs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2577" data-t="2577">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2580" data-t="2580">the my top song,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2582" data-t="2582">boosted song, user brain,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2584" data-t="2584">earned 85,741</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2587">43:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2587" data-t="2587">sets.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2589" data-t="2589">The second one, Marty says his time is different, earned 75,407</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2594" data-t="2594">sets. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2597" data-t="2597">yeah, it goes on. But I I I probably</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2599" data-t="2599">earned,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2602" data-t="2602">like, 250,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2603">43:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2603" data-t="2603">300, 400,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2605" data-t="2605">sets</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2606" data-t="2606">potentially.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2608">43:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2608" data-t="2608">Oh.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2610" data-t="2610">Yeah. I'm looking through mine. It was a little over 200,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2613" data-t="2613">sats sound,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2615" data-t="2615">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2617" data-t="2617">there's only it's a it's a really relatively small</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2620" data-t="2620">of heck and a lot of but,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2622">43:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2622" data-t="2622">number one and it was this was a big hit. It was Girls on Spaces.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2628" data-t="2628">Girls on Spaces was definitely a a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2631" data-t="2631">pop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2632" data-t="2632">one that was really popular. Archfield's Cowboys was next. My Digital Treasure,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2638" data-t="2638">the one which is about Dennis Porter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2640" data-t="2640">which is a really good one. And it's if you're hearing about Dennis Porter more and more lately, go back and check that one out. It'll explain</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2647">44:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2647" data-t="2647">the backstory</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2649" data-t="2649">because he doesn't have much of of a backstory available outside that music.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2653" data-t="2653">And then there was Miss The Days, which is my debut.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2657" data-t="2657">All pretty</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2658" data-t="2658">pretty much, pop music, but it's fun. And it's got it's got funny lyrics.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2663" data-t="2663">Music is fun.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2665">44:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2665" data-t="2665">You are definitely more of a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2668" data-t="2668">musician than I am. You've got a lot bigger catalog.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2671" data-t="2671">What, what are you thinking about for next?</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2674">44:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2674" data-t="2674">For their next album? Well, I'm trying to figure out or or finish the the user brain,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2681" data-t="2681">album that I have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2683" data-t="2683">going on right now. And I think this is my best album to date. I've got three songs published on it so far. I I try to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2691" data-t="2691">get out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2692" data-t="2692">roughly 10.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2693" data-t="2693">The general theme is kinda like rock</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2696">44:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2696" data-t="2696">slash,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2698" data-t="2698">synth wave type rock,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2701" data-t="2701">and I wanna stick with that. So I've got a song that I should be releasing relatively</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2707" data-t="2707">soon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2709" data-t="2709">called,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2711" data-t="2711">the battle is not lost, and I'm pretty excited about that.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2714">45:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2714" data-t="2714">But, yeah, I just wanna keep on cranking on,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2717" data-t="2717">user brain. I I think I'm I'm gonna save</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2721" data-t="2721">the battles not lost. I feel pretty good about it. So I think I'm gonna save it for the the bugles, but I might I might release a song first</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2729" data-t="2729">and then do the music video with it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2732" data-t="2732">because I'm pretty pumped on the music video as well.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2734" data-t="2734">But</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2736">45:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2736" data-t="2736">kinda my goal for 2025,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2737" data-t="2737">so I'm in the process of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2740" data-t="2740">relearning piano. So when when I was a kid,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2744" data-t="2744">around the time that I started smoking cigarettes at at six years old,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2749" data-t="2749">I began learning the piano and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2752" data-t="2752">I ended up</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2753">45:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2753" data-t="2753">when I went off to get my credentials in college, I ended up,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2757" data-t="2757">stopping and playing piano. So I've been spending some time relearning the piano. I spent a couple hours on that today.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2763" data-t="2763">I plan on doing that in the future.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2766" data-t="2766">I've been thinking about taking some voice lessons,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2769" data-t="2769">and I am planning on doing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2772" data-t="2772">likely some guitar lessons</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2775">46:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2775" data-t="2775">as well because I think it'd be really fun to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2779" data-t="2779">perform a lot of this music.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2782" data-t="2782">And I kinda have this vision of, like, you know, singing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2786" data-t="2786">playing the piano slash</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2789" data-t="2789">playing the guitar</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2790" data-t="2790">on Tunster, having Rayo play the drums,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2795">46:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2795" data-t="2795">and getting some of my friends</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2798" data-t="2798">to,</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2798">you know, be involved</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2800" data-t="2800">with the music so that we could do live performances for people. Because I I really think that's the future of music. I think I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2807" data-t="2807">think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2808" data-t="2808">we</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2809">46:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2809" data-t="2809">have to move back to being more analog</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2812" data-t="2812">in the in this world of pseudo spoofing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2815" data-t="2815">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2819" data-t="2819">and nonsense.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2820" data-t="2820">But, like, most of most of the stuff you hear on the radio</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2824" data-t="2824">these days is it's all it's all computer generated for the most part. Like, a lot of people's voices are are being auto tuned</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2833">47:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2833" data-t="2833">and you can kinda see it where there's, like, a huge difference between their live singing voice and their the radio overly produced voice.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2841" data-t="2841">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2843" data-t="2843">so I wanna see more live</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2845" data-t="2845">stuff, and I wanna participate in that and encourage that. It's cool to see platforms like Tuningster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2851" data-t="2851">getting build out</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2853">47:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2853" data-t="2853">to be able to earn cigarette money right off the bat. Yeah. Yeah. Just just just speaking through a starving artist doesn't mean you don't serve cigarettes to</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2861">47:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2861" data-t="2861">smoke. Totally. Yeah. I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2864" data-t="2864">I think it's only a matter of time before music really takes off.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2867" data-t="2867">And and having a big catalog</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2869" data-t="2869">is interesting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2871" data-t="2871">but I wanna keep on cranking on it. I've I've definitely felt</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2875" data-t="2875">a rekindled</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2878">47:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2878" data-t="2878">desire</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2879" data-t="2879">to really take music seriously. And I think probably</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2883" data-t="2883">the problem of why I had didn't pursue it in the past is I just didn't really see</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2888" data-t="2888">where I could,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2891" data-t="2891">implement it in my life because my life was all around journalism and journalism and music don't typically go together. But like in this new medium of podcast journalism,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2902" data-t="2902">music is,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2904">48:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2904" data-t="2904">I think, very complimentary</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2906">48:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2906" data-t="2906">to it. Absolutely. Yeah. The in the new era of Bitcoin podcast journalism,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2912" data-t="2912">you don't have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2914" data-t="2914">a network</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2915" data-t="2915">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2916" data-t="2916">make him a logo. You don't have a network to do you an intro song and to make graphics and to do crazy swirly things and show breaking news. You don't have a jingle. You don't have commercials being made for you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2930" data-t="2930">You don't have, like, you know, a newspaper logo.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2934">48:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2934" data-t="2934">You have to make that all yourself,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2936" data-t="2936">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2937" data-t="2937">it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2940" data-t="2940">it helps me. It just saves time. It's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2943" data-t="2943">helps to be more efficient. You have to be more thermodynamically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2946" data-t="2946">sound with your time to</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2949">49:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2949" data-t="2949">cover</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2950" data-t="2950">to cover everything and capture the mood.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2953">49:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2953" data-t="2953">Yeah. I agree with that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2955" data-t="2955">I I think we'll probably bring more musicians in the mix.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2958" data-t="2958">There's, there's been a new one that I've been pretty excited about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2962" data-t="2962">that first in on the Wave Lake scene last couple weeks called, Run Dance,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2967" data-t="2967">putting out some killer tunes. What about that,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2970">49:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2970" data-t="2970">that Australian,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2975" data-t="2975">Kai Kai Kai or whatever,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2977" data-t="2977">Carmageddon?</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2979">49:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2979" data-t="2979">I, may</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2980" data-t="2980">yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2981" data-t="2981">Yeah. She's been a big addition to Wave Lake.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2984" data-t="2984">So this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2986" data-t="2986">Australian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2988" data-t="2988">singer put out a song called Carmageddon,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2991">49:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2991" data-t="2991">and it is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2992" data-t="2992">killing it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2994" data-t="2994">on Wave Lake</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2995">49:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2995" data-t="2995">and going viral around the world. It's it's it's very based. It is one of the best examples of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3001" data-t="3001">a smoking hot blonde</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3004" data-t="3004">singing a very non compliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3006" data-t="3006">but also hit song. Do you wanna</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3010">50:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3010" data-t="3010">sing a couple of the lines? Do you want me to? So that the listener knows what we're talking about. They probably haven't heard of it.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3016">50:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3016" data-t="3016">Yeah. Yeah. You were you. You were analyzing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3019" data-t="3019">the, the structure of the song. You just definitely,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3022" data-t="3022">shared your your favorite</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3025">50:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3025" data-t="3025">chorus or or lyric there. Man made virus. Watch the millions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3030" data-t="3030">die.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3031" data-t="3031">Biggest profits of their lives. Here's inflation, that's your prize.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3036" data-t="3036">This is Carmageddon.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3039">50:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3039" data-t="3039">Those are probably my favorite lines. I do know that was what was in the viral videos as well, so you should definitely check that out.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3045" data-t="3045">Before</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3046" data-t="3046">before we get into the fountain boost for this episode,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3050" data-t="3050">we wanna provide a little bit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3052" data-t="3052">of an update</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3054" data-t="3054">on the bugles.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3055">50:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3055" data-t="3055">So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3056" data-t="3056">there's a lot of anticipation for that, And we're working very hard</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3061" data-t="3061">to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3063" data-t="3063">to set everything up to secure the venue, secure the streaming rights.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3068" data-t="3068">One of the biggest</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3070" data-t="3070">tasks was the bugle award itself,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3073">51:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3073" data-t="3073">which is gonna be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3074" data-t="3074">really excited to debut that. However,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3078" data-t="3078">we had them made, and they were in a storage warehouse in the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3083" data-t="3083">Los Angeles area.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3085" data-t="3085">And during the wildfires,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3087" data-t="3087">we suspect</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3088">51:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3088" data-t="3088">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3089" data-t="3089">the Fed has spruced a CIA asset in the area. One of the people setting fires throughout the city use that as an opportunity to burn down</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3098" data-t="3098">our storage unit and sabotage</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3101" data-t="3101">the fuels a little bit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3103" data-t="3103">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3104" data-t="3104">we're happy to announce that we're working with crypto cloaks now to redo</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3109">51:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3109" data-t="3109">the Buell Awards.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3110" data-t="3110">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3111" data-t="3111">the one with the really hard and we're expecting that to come</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3115" data-t="3115">sometime in instead of January. We'll they get February, late February, maybe early March, but we will give you a date on that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3124" data-t="3124">very soon. So stay tuned.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3127">52:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3127" data-t="3127">Very excited about it. It's gonna be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3130" data-t="3130">one of the greatest spectacles</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3132">52:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3132" data-t="3132">that you've ever seen. Then there will be cigarette smoking allowed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3136" data-t="3136">at this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3138" data-t="3138">at this award show. So do not think that you will have to you won't be able to smoke at your table, smoke wherever you're watching. You'll be able to enjoy a cigarette. Very unfortunate what's happening in Los Angeles. I think</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3149">52:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3149" data-t="3149">it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3150" data-t="3150">it has been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3152" data-t="3152">very disruptive to the Bitcoin podcast community. It's also been very disruptive to Hollywood. I think,</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3158">52:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3158" data-t="3158">I'm really excited next week to get into</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3161" data-t="3161">we'll have a lot we'll know a lot more about what's going on with this fire than what the out the outcome's going to result</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3168" data-t="3168">to be.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3170" data-t="3170">And we can definitely get into some of the drama, some of the politics, and some of, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3176" data-t="3176">why we think that there's a it's time is up for Hollywood and it's kind of metaphoric and misfire.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3183">53:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3183" data-t="3183">But I'm excited to talk about that next week. Yeah. I I think the biggest lesson before without going into it too much is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3191" data-t="3191">when you're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3192" data-t="3192">trying to determine how much of a Bitcoin stack you should have,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3197" data-t="3197">You should be able to afford if your house burns down and your insurance company</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3203" data-t="3203">pulls your fire insurance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3205" data-t="3205">weeks before your house burns down.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3209">53:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3209" data-t="3209">Enough</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3210" data-t="3210">to rebuild</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3211" data-t="3211">but then also afford your property taxes in the process. Like, I think that's one of the challenges</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3217" data-t="3217">facing a lot of people is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3219" data-t="3219">they're not prepared to be able to both</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3222" data-t="3222">afford to rebuild and to afford to pay their taxes.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3227">53:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3227" data-t="3227">A lot of people are really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3229" data-t="3229">in a tough position right now.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3231">53:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3231" data-t="3231">Right. Right. That is where we are, and it's kind of endemic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3235" data-t="3235">to the rest of the country in a lot of ways.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3239" data-t="3239">We can afford</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3241" data-t="3241">to pay our taxes right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3244" data-t="3244">And we are some of us are doing very well.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3246" data-t="3246">But we most of us cannot afford a tragedy</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3250">54:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3250" data-t="3250">and to recover from a tragedy and still be able to pay for and pay our taxes.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3256">54:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3256" data-t="3256">Right. California</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3258">54:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3258" data-t="3258">is one of the hardest street</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3260">54:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3260" data-t="3260">to be able to afford your taxes. Right. Right. It's the government. It does. If you wanna live in Malibu,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3266" data-t="3266">if you wanna live in the Pacific Palisades</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3269" data-t="3269">for Brentwood neighborhoods,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3272" data-t="3272">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3273" data-t="3273">you are going to have to pay</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3276" data-t="3276">a lot of taxes because they don't want you there.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3279">54:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3279" data-t="3279">And they try hard to not to need to be there. They try to make it hard for you to get there. They don't want you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3286" data-t="3286">to have access to that pay unless</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3289" data-t="3289">you can really afford to pay your taxes.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3292">54:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3292" data-t="3292">You have to be a Bitcoin holder to be able to afford to California.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3298" data-t="3298">That's the reality that we're facing today.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3301" data-t="3301">Yeah, let's get into the found boost though. First boost,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3305" data-t="3305">starting out the year strong</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3307" data-t="3307">is John</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3308" data-t="3308">from Uncoverable Misfits. 88888¢.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3313">55:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3313" data-t="3313">John says, press forward</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3315" data-t="3315">with VIM and rigor</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3316" data-t="3316">and then a</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3317">55:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3317" data-t="3317">salute emoji. I can't think of a a better way for a tier one</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3322" data-t="3322">fountain booster such as John</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3325" data-t="3325">or us,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3327" data-t="3327">than a, you know, an $8,088,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3330" data-t="3330">sat boost straight to the point. Thank you so much, John. I mean, it's it's been an honor.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3336" data-t="3336">It's been an honor of dominating</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3338">55:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3338" data-t="3338">Fountain with you and everybody over at the Uncomfortable Misfits. It really has been a fun year with those guys. I I really appreciate those guys. They've been they've been reading Beagle stories on the regular</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3349" data-t="3349">big big supporters of the show pretty much since day one.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3354" data-t="3354">Really appreciate those guys.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3356">55:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3356" data-t="3356">Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. It's, they they get it. It's sometimes people just get it, and you get each other. The, the next one</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3363" data-t="3363">is from none other than, again, one of our our closest buddies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3368" data-t="3368">people that, have been a highlight of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3371" data-t="3371">this Bitcoin podcast in the last year, Shadrach.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3375" data-t="3375">He's asking when XMR chat,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3378" data-t="3378">they precess 9,000 sats.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3381">56:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3381" data-t="3381">So, yeah, you have do you have an update on, Richard? We're gonna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3385" data-t="3385">we, we, for a small, we needed to, we needed to get Monero wallets because we have to do that to try to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3393" data-t="3393">get,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3394" data-t="3394">get, get Kaylee back from the Monero grows. So we're we're trying to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3399" data-t="3399">we're trying to rescue our girl, get our producer back.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3402" data-t="3402">But we also were gonna set up, XMR chat. Right? So we can, transact more adversarially with some of our fans. Oh, I think we need to have a discussion.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3411">56:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3411" data-t="3411">Do we want to become shitcoiners?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3414" data-t="3414">Are we okay with that? I</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3417">56:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3417" data-t="3417">am under the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3419" data-t="3419">belief that I will accept</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3422" data-t="3422">anybody. Somebody wants to pay me in Monero. They wanna boost</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3426" data-t="3426">this podcast in Monero. I will accept that. I welcome their listenership.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3431" data-t="3431">But I will I will</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3432" data-t="3432">respect their right to privacy</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3434">57:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3434" data-t="3434">and not read their boosts. Is that And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3438" data-t="3438">if if okay.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3439" data-t="3439">If you if you, do want to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3443" data-t="3443">if you if you just let us know if you want to be doxxed, then we'll read your boost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3447" data-t="3447">But I just don't I just don't think that many Monero</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3450" data-t="3450">boosters</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3451">57:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3451" data-t="3451">are</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3452">57:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3452" data-t="3452">but I think they wanna stay private. That's my assumption. I don't read I think it's part of the rules right</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3458">57:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3458" data-t="3458">now because it was the first person or it might have been Max</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3461" data-t="3461">that was telling me about XMR chat. I just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3465" data-t="3465">I just googled it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3467" data-t="3467">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3468" data-t="3468">I couldn't seem to find it.</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3470">57:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3470" data-t="3470">So I know. I you know, I'm a tolerant person. I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3475" data-t="3475">I totally respect and accept</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3478" data-t="3478">Monero</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3479" data-t="3479">Bros, but I just don't think they should force me to celebrate it. Celebrate Monero for a big point, bro. I don't really have any issues</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3487">58:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3487" data-t="3487">personally</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3488" data-t="3488">with Monero.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3491" data-t="3491">The the problem with it, you know, there's, like, some structural issues with it that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3496" data-t="3496">I think are pretty obvious on its face.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3499" data-t="3499">The first structural issue is that it's not Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3502" data-t="3502">which means it's not thermodynamically</span></span></p>
   +
   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3504">58:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3504" data-t="3504">sound.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3505">58:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Don Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3505" data-t="3505">It has a really low hash rate, and they try to say that that doesn't matter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3510" data-t="3510">But I think that they it's just really it's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3513" data-t="3513">talking in circles,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3516" data-t="3516">because they're embarrassed that they don't have a high hash rate like Bitcoin does. People don't mind. People don't mind. You can't mine Mine Monero with a Bitaxe.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3524" data-t="3524">And that when people find that out, they're pretty disappointed.</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3528">58:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3528" data-t="3528">Totally.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3530" data-t="3530">It is very disappointing that you can't mine with a a Bitaxe. There's no there's no doodad that you can buy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3538" data-t="3538">in order to do it. You know, because that's like one thing that's really interesting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3542" data-t="3542">about Bitcoiners.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3543" data-t="3543">They have really high standards around this where</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3546" data-t="3546">instead of just,</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3548">59:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3548" data-t="3548">you know, using a general purpose typewriter, they need to buy a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3553" data-t="3553">specific</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3554" data-t="3554">single</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3555" data-t="3555">use device.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3556" data-t="3556">Right? They need to buy a node in the box instead of spinning up a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3561" data-t="3561">or a node on</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3563">59:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3563" data-t="3563">just a general purpose</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3565" data-t="3565">device.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3566" data-t="3566">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3567" data-t="3567">I'm not really sure why</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3570" data-t="3570">that is because it doesn't really seem very logically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3574" data-t="3574">consistent</span></span></p>
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   +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3575">59:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Ian</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3575" data-t="3575">to me.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3577" data-t="3577">It might just be that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3579" data-t="3579">it it's their dedication</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3581" data-t="3581">to podcast listening. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3584" data-t="3584">They want to support</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3586" data-t="3586">the sponsors of their favorite podcast by buying their doodads</span></span></p>
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