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2:10Ian Alrighty. Welcome to this with me weekly. This is Ian with your research. Joining me today is as we roll is Don Palmer back from vacation, the second episode, from vacation to server. I was thinking today that we would take the time to do a recap of 2024, since I got Rod back in the studio. I did I did a little bit of a recap on on the last week of a week with

2:37Ian just kind of a new review of some things. But today, I wanted to talk about, like, the balance stats, what we're looking at, who our biggest supporters are. I did a Stacker new post couple weeks ago that I just wanted to

2:55Ian go over. And, yeah. But before we get into that, how are you doing today, Ron? What's going on with you? I'm doing today.

3:04Don Palmer Was a very dramatic week on the timeline. I was really enjoying it. A lot of announcements, really bullish announcements. So feeling very bullish right now. But, yeah, I forgot. You know, our last night came back from vacation, but that was on behind the podcast. We are, I'm excited to reflect on last year. It was a it was a great year for the bugle. It was a great year for the bugle.

3:31Ian I mean, it it really seemed like the bugle got a little bit more serious. We we had some more people join and begin helping in a more serious manner.

3:45Ian Most noteworthy one was you. When did you specifically interview? How long have you been? We've been doing the podcast for less than a year.

3:53Don Palmer Yeah. And I joined probably in q four of two thousand twenty three, and we were writing about anti swanitism,

4:04Don Palmer just off ordinals and things like that. But we started a really accelerated when we started the podcast after,

4:14Don Palmer it was after we took over Bitcoin magazine on April fools, I think, when it really kicked off.

4:21Unknown Yeah.

4:23Ian Yeah. I feel like the the first quarter last year was very eventful. So we had March Maxi Madness. That was huge. That was a hit. And then we rolled into the Bitcoin magazine takeover. Had some killer stories in there. That was a lot of fun.

4:44Don Palmer Then we had, the compliance tournament. The compliance tournament was a real hit. Again, congratulations to Peter McCormick. He won. He went out on top. Peter McCormick won the Bugles compliance tournament

4:58Don Palmer and promptly retired for Bitcoin podcasting. That's like, you know, sometimes a quarterback wins the Super Bowl, and that's when he retires and it's called going out on top. That's what we did. And it was, you know, the the podcast determines the all of the action leading up to the Bitcoin conference in Nashville. The bugle kind of burst on the scene for the first time. You know, we've been

5:26Don Palmer building the intellectual Silk Road, writing credential journalism, but it caught on and all that hard work paid off. Definitely. And we we are now shifting into gear. Like you said, we're more serious. We're more focused cause we're getting ready for the bull market. And that is when a Bitcoin podcast but when they call it podcasts, are the most important. So it's we've gotta lock in, so to speak.

5:53Ian Yep. Yeah. I mean, the the Bitcoin

5:57Unknown blah. Bitcoin podcasting is sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick

6:09Ian you're just trying to survive as a podcast, right? You're trying to earn just enough cigarette money on fountain to be able to provide for your family. And then in the bull market,

6:23Ian you know that your boosts are gonna go up. The values of your boosts are gonna go up. People are gonna be running around feeling rich. Their trading strategy is gonna be working for the first time. They're gonna be making money, and they're gonna want to direct that back at podcasters. And so essentially, it it's really a a feast for a short amount of time or at least that's how it's worked historically.

6:49Don Palmer Yeah. And I think a really good topic and theme that we all learned in 2024 that when you get into the Bitcoin podcasting game and you start your proof of work starts to pay off and you start to get a lot of fountain

7:06Don Palmer boosts. You start to get like in the fountain top podcast rankings, like the top 10. You're going to start being confronted with the influences, the pressures, the psy ops from PodCon.

7:22Don Palmer And you're going to have to learn how to interact with PodCon and how to navigate the manipulation that will inevitably come your way from PodCon in your own way. And you wanna kinda get to a point where you're independent and you don't have to worry about PodConf anymore, but they will still sell your t shirts at Bitcoin conferences. That's kinda like the perfect

7:45Don Palmer relationship basis. Would you agree with the other room? Do you have a different take? Yeah.

7:53Ian Podcalf definitely likes to try and scout the talent, and they like to try and sink their fangs into you, if they see you to be valuable to them. You know, it it it starts it starts what kinda seems to be

8:11Don Palmer an innocent way. Where Well, if you will well, here's a good example. If you want if you're a young Bitcoin podcaster and you wanna catch podcast attention, one thing you could do is dye your dye up part of your, your bangs blonde. They will that will be huge shit right away. Or

8:32Don Palmer be a be a based hot chick who is really open to doing, you know, Bitcoin podcast ads for carnivore companies.

8:42Unknown Yeah.

8:44Ian Another way to get Podkoff's attention is to just follow the Luke Broyles

8:50Don Palmer playbook. Yeah. That's how I do. That's that is the the uber bellish child wonder who is much smarter than his years. Who carries himself like a macro elder that is still in undergraduate school, hasn't even taken macroeconomics too yet, but he's listed off podcast that he's not gonna have to pay attention in class in order to get an a. Sometimes they drop out though, and,

9:16Don Palmer they become macro analyst chart boys themselves. I mean, look at Dylan McClary. He's now running the most the highest performing, stock in the Japanese economy. So that's huge.

9:32Ian A lot of people aspiring to be influencers, what they need to understand is just a way to play their strengths, whatever it is. Right? So, like, if you're fat and ugly, you have to come off as really smart

9:46Ian to kinda overpower the lack of looks that you got. If you're If you're if you're

9:54Don Palmer genuinely unattractive, you can always go the the privacy, the Monero influencer. You can always stay men even when you go to conferences or you go to meetups and you have the you run the risk that one of your biggest fans or followers is a fed, is a spook, then that mean you can wear a mask and and and perfectly conceal your identity

10:18Don Palmer even in a podcast conference or a Bitcoin conferences as long as you're a privacy influencer. However, it is going to attract fans love those. They're their biggest they love listening to those podcasts, so you it's gonna be hard to know if if a spook is the government agent working against you or just your biggest fan.

10:40Ian Like, one one of the things that Luke Broyles has done really well is he's identified one of his strengths. So, like, you know, if you're a young person, what you need to do is you need to go get yourself into a niche. Right? Like Bitcoin, like knitting, or or any any other niche in which there's influencers like Linux. There's Linux influencers. There's, Python influencers,

11:07Ian there's all all these various niches that are out there, these these small groups. And all you have to do is you just have to show up in the group, have a very basic understanding of whatever you're talking about, and just raise your hand and say, hey, I'm a Zoomer. And then all of a sudden, all these old people will be like, oh, wow, like we wanna encourage the youth. And then all of a sudden, you know, you get approached by Podkomp and they wanna they wanna promote you. And it it might turn out that you're not exceptional

11:38Ian in any way, but, like, when you're young, you wanna you wanna use that as a strength. Right? You it is a strength, essentially. Like, you don't wanna waste your youth having not been an influencer in some small niche, because it you you have to use your youth to build a platform in which then to build a career of influencing on top of. Right?

12:05Ian Nick Carter did this. Will Clemente did this. Luke Broyles is doing this. I'm sure there's gonna be many other boy young boy wonder like, you know, Dylan LeClaire has done this, but the thing about Dylan LeClaire is I think he's actually smart. Right? Another way to like, if if you're fat and ugly so, like, British HODL is, like, a good example.

12:32Ian The the way to do things like British HODL is to just brag about how rich you are.

12:40Don Palmer And you have to smoke cigars. You gotta smoke cigars. You gotta you gotta look like you live a very sophisticated life because you are a sophisticated macro Bitcoin podcaster,

12:56Don Palmer and you're you're trading with leverage. You are all in. And why would somebody follow you and listen to what you're talking about if you don't look successful?

13:08Ian Alright. One of one of the best, studies or case studies of this phenomenon, which we're talking about is

13:19Don Palmer BitBoy, Ben Armstrong. No. You mean he bought Lamborghinis? Oh, look at, Richard Hart. Richard Hart had Rolexes. He had Gucci suits. He had two different, Lamborghinis. And then who's the king of this? Right? It's, Andrew Tate. Everybody knows that Andrew Tate is highly successful. He is the alpha

13:41Don Palmer predator of the Bitcoin community. I mean, he just called out. We talked about this. He called up Peter McCormick. He took out, I mean, the biggest podcaster in the space and he just kind of bitch slapped him, called him gay and fat. And he wears Rolexes and he has tons of women. That is how people, I mean, if you want people to take you seriously about Bitcoin, you need to project that kind of aura.

14:06Ian Yeah. I think they call that, bravado.

14:09Don Palmer Bravado. Yeah.

14:11Ian It's it's really a fake it until you make it strategy. And then when you made it,

14:17Don Palmer how do you how do you know? When do you know that you can drop the bravado?

14:22Ian That that that really is a good question. I I think everybody has different definitions of what it means to them for making it. And whether that's ranking number one on

14:37Ian the fountain boost for a week, whether that's ranking number one on wave like having a number one trending song on there for a period of time. Whether that's speaking at the conference on the main stage, whether that's speaking on the conference at the conference on one of the side stages, whether that's going on what Bitcoin did with Danny Knowles

15:01Ian or going on TFTC with Marty

15:07Don Palmer or, Oh, yeah. I mean, think about how many people who have been working really hard. Maybe they've done a little bit too much bravado, but they got to the Sailor one hundred k yacht party and they they realized I am now spending New Year's Eve with people like Neil Jacobs and the crypto couple. I made it. This is what I've been working so hard for. I can drop it. I have you know, I, I made it to the club. Yeah. I mean, I guess for some people,

15:36Ian they think they make it when they hang out with their heroes in person. The people that orange build them. That that might to them feel like they make it. And, you know,

15:50Ian I I think a lot of people, what they're just searching for, what they the level of satisfaction that they wanna experience is just being able to provide for their family and having been able to afford taxes for their year. So different people have different levels of ambition. Like for Dennis Porter, for example, you could tell he's still hungry. He's achieved a lot, right?

16:14Ian He got banned from the Bitcoin conference. He has a big social media following. He gets invited. He's been on everybody's podcast except for ours. He he he's been around he's been around the block to say the least.

16:31Ian But in his mind, the next tick on his checklist is to become a US senator and then after that to become the president of The United States. And so that that's that's like a different level ambition than just wanting to pay your taxes and hang out with your favorite Bitcoin podcaster. Right. And you can tell you can tell who that applies to.

16:56Don Palmer Some people are at a a sailor yacht party, and they're just happy to see anybody that they recognize from Twitter or from Fountain and to be able to talk to them and hang out with them. And there's some people who they're not satisfied with just being able to pay their taxes.

17:14Don Palmer They want an orange pill, the senate. They want an orange pill. They wanna be a part of the strategic Bitcoin reserve. They want to build the next cyber warfare protocol for the CIA

17:29Don Palmer and the Navy SEALs on Bitcoin. And those people don't have time to just hang out with any podcaster that happens to also be paying their taxes and go into sailor parties. They need to talk to the elite. And it's just a matter of recognizing

17:48Don Palmer who values their time at a party like the salaried party and who is who is really focused on talking to the people who can afford their taxes the most? Yeah, that's a good point. It's, you know,

18:07Don Palmer it's any anytime you are at a Bitcoin event, you're going to be under more pressure and you're going to your time is going to be much more valuable, the the more you are able to afford a higher tax, the most taxes. So that is a signal of power.

18:28Don Palmer And that's going to attract podcasters, politicians, feds, and friends. And you just have to be able to, navigate that.

18:38Ian Totally. Well, kinda getting into the numbers for this year, so I just wanna talk about what we've accomplished as the b u l. It's kinda hard to we I don't think we got a whole lot of direct donations on BDC and PACE over this year. I feel like

18:56Unknown we have a new prior in 2023, which

19:00Don Palmer We got a lot more found boosts. Yeah. Have a lot more fountain boosts.

19:06Ian And, definitely the year of the fountain boost.

19:10Don Palmer 2024 was also if I mean, it it deals like a lot longer ago. If we ever think it back to June 20 2024, the ETF, will it or will it not be approved? Well, is the SEC's tweet is that real? Can we actually trust the SEC to tweet out something psyopy?

19:30Don Palmer And people just they had they laughed when they when the bugle tried to talk about our credentials and how important credentials were. They'll laugh anymore. We put credentials back on the map. We we reoriented people's attention away from the mainstream media into Bitcoin podcasts. And I think that is probably our biggest success, which is harder to measure with fountain boost. I agree.

19:56Ian Well, looking at a year in recap, so the People Weekly earned 4,300,000 stats, which is a very impressive number,

20:07Don Palmer in my opinion. It usually takes a podcast a lot longer to generate millions in revenue, but we get it at first year, not even a full year. Millions in revenue.

20:17Ian That's a success story. Let's see how many cigarettes that buys. So 4,300,000.

20:22Don Palmer Yeah. Put that in perspective. A million is a lot. It's hard to fathom.

20:27Ian It's it's 4,300

20:30Don Palmer cigarettes. If you if you say that it takes how long to smoke a cigarette, five minutes? Well, how much time? How much time did you just buy with Bitcoin? Your future is measured in time. How much time did you purchase or did you earn or did we earn to be able to smoke a cigarette? It just be bullish. 4,300

20:54Ian times five. I I don't know. That's a long cigarette. I I think you're thinking you're smoking American spirit. That's a number that's burning on the master show. That's twenty one thousand five hundred minutes.

21:08Don Palmer Twenty one thousand five hundred minutes. That that's all if money is time, we just earned 21,000 minutes to smoke cigarettes and not not to worry about anything else.

21:22Ian Yep. Some more numbers to just put this in perspective. That's 215 packs of cigarettes or 21 and a half cartons of cigarettes. There's a,

21:36Ian I keep hearing that number 21. Yeah. It's a very magical number. It it shows up everywhere. I mean, this it's like one of the things about listening to enough Bitcoin podcasts is you start to see the world divided by 21,000,000 and you just see that become more of a reality. Everywhere you look, you see the number 21. You just divide things by 21,000,000. You divide things by 21

22:01Don Palmer and a half cartons of cigarettes. Oh, yeah. Don't think about it. People are like they criticize Bitcoin and they say, Oh, you still denominate everything in USDT. Nobody's ever gonna nominate everything in Bitcoin. You'll only nominate in USDT. But, yeah, for their math, that all SAPs need to be the standard. SAPs are the standard. And maybe,

22:23Don Palmer what definitely is the standard is 21,000,000. And more and more people as Bitcoin has already won start to see the m two money supply divided by 21,000,000. They start to see the bond market divided by 21,000,000. The real estate market divided by 21,000,000 and everything they see. And they say, wow, that is an expensive fucking part of the inflation side. Let me divide that by 21,000,000.

22:51Don Palmer And that's your denomination in Bitcoin. 21,000,000 is the is the is the standard. So out of those

22:58Ian 4,300,000 SaaS,

23:01Unknown that can be The reason is the difference in order. So

23:05Ian we Viva Weekly had a 128 different boosters

23:10Don Palmer throughout the year. Is that is that count all of Pies individual boosts or does that aggregate those into because Pies would have been way more than a 121.

23:21Ian Right. That's all the different accounts is the way I think it

23:25Don Palmer Gotcha. Okay. Okay.

23:27Ian So, I mean, there's a there's definitely a potential that boosters some of them didn't have found an accounts and that so they came up as anonymous users. So it could be less.

23:39Don Palmer I don't think it could be Certainly. That's why some people use NoStru. They want that privacy. The privacy is a little more important to them. They don't wanna end up in somebody else's fountain rewind and, you know, the wrong eyes see that. Yeah. The the

23:53Ian like, if you average out the amount of SaaS in a this isn't how it works. Like, some people boosted more than others. But if you averaged out the total SaaS that we received across the 128 different people that boosted us, it comes out to 33,593

24:13Ian SaaS per booster, which is pretty cool.

24:16Don Palmer Oh, that's another magic number.

24:19Ian Yeah. Let's calculate the USDT value of that just to give people perspective. So today, the SaaS per USDT rate is 1,061. But it's kinda nice with Bitcoin operating around this range because it makes the the SAT to USDT conversion incredibly easy.

24:42Ian Right around that number, round and round. Copy out.

24:45Don Palmer Yeah. This is a great time for people to be paying attention to Bitcoin a little bit more closely and kind of With nearly a 100 ks just makes that SAC conversion. It makes everything way easier. That's why this is just the beginning in a bull market, I think. Yeah. It's about $31

25:02Ian a person that works out. 31 USP per person. I don't know. That's pretty good if you think about it. I'd like to encourage people to boost. Jacob Morphew (3five thirty three): Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I

25:13Don Palmer spent 1,600,000 sat boosting podcasts, in 2024. And,

25:23Don Palmer I know I I think I'm proud to be the in the 1,000,000 plus club. And I think that everybody should strive to invest 1,000,000 sats per year minimum into the value for value economy because

25:39Don Palmer I earned way more than 1,600,000 sats back from the value for value economy through my podcast and through Noister, through Wavelake. So it's been

25:53Don Palmer a it's probably been the best performing investment I've made other than Bitcoin directly.

26:00Unknown Is

26:01Ian there is there an easy way to see your Gnostr boost that you received over the year? No, there's nothing, that's easy to do on Noister. That's so surprising. Yeah. I mean, I I boosted I was I was less than you, but I boosted 925,000 stats. Most of it was the three shows that I sent the majority of the boost to were Ungovernable Misfits, High Hash

26:28Ian Rate, and Rock Paper Bitcoin. I feel like I owe Rock Paper Bitcoin more. It's just I gotta it's really hard with their show because they they put it out every other week. So it's kinda hard to catch a rhythm with listening to it. Whereas

26:44Ian a lot a lot of other shows are more regular.

26:47Don Palmer The other thing with Rocket, Pepper, Bitcoin is it's such a good podcast, but they they don't promote it and market it. So they need to promote their podcast more, because I sometimes I'll forget that it came out because they they didn't tweet about it or they didn't send it to the group chat. So You know what I mean? Like it's If I miss it, it's like, dang, I miss more like a Bitcoin podcast. But if they advertised,

27:14Ian I'd never forget. Jason Robert Vaughn (3five thirty seven): You would think that fundamentals would be a little bit better at that seeing that he's kind of hereditarily predispositioned

27:25Unknown to be successful in media. You know what I mean?

27:29Don Palmer Right. Not only is he Jin Ji should know better. Not only has he been, trained for the media predisposition, excuse me, for the media and for finances and for economics. So he should know better. So he doesn't have an excuse not to do it. My,

27:48Ian my boosting puts me according to found it in the top 1% of boosters

27:54Don Palmer on the platform. Me as well. Yeah. Yeah. We are we are the 1%.

27:59Ian I I think it's really important to be engaged in the value for value economy as much as possible. Like, it can't just be a one way street. You know what I mean? Because Right. You want like, the the mission to this is to destroy Podkoff, and

28:15Ian we need the economy to grow. And, like, sometimes to get the economy to grow, you have spend into it. We don't we don't have government agencies subsidizing the value for value economy. So the podcasters have to subsidize it themselves.

28:29Don Palmer Right. Yeah. And that's what I wanna do. That's my point about fundamentals. Then it's not it's not just him. It's that, to engage in the the value for value economy. Sometimes you could be so proud of the work that you're doing, of the value that you're providing

28:47Don Palmer that you boost like, you you you you want VonMiner. He boosts us. He engages with us in v four v. He's like, hey. Look at this spicy beef jerky that I have. So I go and buy spicy beef jerky from him. And other people are saying, look at this this Bitcoin podcast I recorded or this article I wrote, and they they tap you or they send you the the SaaS. They're paying you value because they know that,

29:11Don Palmer their product or their content is gonna be worth your time. And that's how you and that's how you start that exchange. You build that market, that relationship, and you start to see whether you can partner for where you can team up with them and where they're most valuable for your most valuable for each other. We can provide for each other. You can have a thermodynamically sound

29:33Don Palmer venture. Totally.

29:37Ian Well, yeah. I mean, yeah, our top sellers for the year let me just go through this real quick. So John from Ungovernable Misfits is number one. He came in first place with 757,000 SaaS. Very impressive boost numbers right there.

29:58Ian Number two was miss Hoddleknot, four twenty, your fling, that happened in 2024, I guess that was kind of a big thing. She boosted us 382,000

30:11Ian SAS, Fundamentals came in third place. So this is a very impressive accomplishment for the bugle. We were able to get 367,000 out of the hands of a Jewish man. That's how you know and that's how you measure that's that is how you measure it right there. I think I kinda think that fundamental so John, just based on the preliminary knowledge that we have, based on him just boosting

30:39Ian this show, In him just boosting this show, he's probably in the 1% top 1% of found in boosters. It'd be interesting to get fundamentals because his stats because I I figure he's probably in the top 1%. I feel like his numbers are similar to yours and mine. He's probably close to a million sats or more because I know fundamentals boost other shows

31:05Ian besides our show. But I just wanted to say, so those are top three. So John, miss Huddlenut, and then fundamentals. Number four is We All Eat, big supporter of the show. So one of the things I wanna say about We All Eat is this individual has contributed to the bugle pretty much from the very beginning in a variety of ways.

31:27Ian And wanna shoot him a big thank you for all of his support. He calls us gay and faggots periodically though, but I don't really know what to make of that.

31:37Don Palmer Well, that's the when you have contributed enough value to a value for value relationship, you get to call the other person retarded. And, you know,

31:50Ian it's not it's not a negative. Well, let let let's expand this to, like, romantic relationships. So, like, how much how much do you have to give your wife or your girlfriend to be able to call her retarded? I guess I guess it kinda depends on the individual, but I I It's all about trade offs. What do you mean?

32:09Don Palmer Well, I mean, sometimes you might get a girl who you don't have to contribute any value and you can get away with it right away, but she probably will be retarded. And, that's why it's not gonna be worth it.

32:24Don Palmer But you could find somebody who, you have to contribute a lot of value before you get to call them that. But it might be better overall. We're betting more than what they have excel. But, yeah. Yeah. Got to meet some of our biggest our biggest blisters this year for the first time. So, you know, miss Hogglenaut

32:45Don Palmer was probably the most talked about, the most salacious, but I got to meet a bunch of other people as well and created some pretty good friendships and then looking forward to to try to meet them in person and trying to get them to produce me more sass on fountain

33:03Ian in the future. Yeah. Let me let me blast through the rest of this list over top booster. So after, we all eat at number four, we have Stack Atoshi at number five for 316,260 sass. We got like a I I remember this. So I think we only got like a handful of boost from but they were they were mostly large.

33:28Don Palmer And there was Yeah. He was like whale he was whale boosting.

33:32Ian Yeah. There there was a contest at one point of different individuals. I think John got a little bit frustrated because I was I mean, Stackitoshi sent us a 100,000 SAP boost, and I mentioned that. And all of a sudden, John was like, I need to send a bigger boost. Fundamentals came in and suddenly he needed to send me bigger boost too. So they were all kinda like one up in each other by like one sat and that was pretty funny.

34:01Don Palmer Yeah. Boosting dip measuring contest. That was funny.

34:04Ian Yep. And then we had Orange Mart and Open Mic. So Open Mic, a 154,000 sats. Thank you, Open Mic. And then Orange Mart for a 138,000 sats.

34:17Ian Open Mic created this trend, which is interesting, which is the bugle mile high club. So he likes to listen to the bugle when he's on the airplane. Guess what? Oh, Open Mic's the creator of a what what it's called Toonster.

34:34Ian Right? Did I get that right? Yeah. That sounds right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

34:37Don Palmer So Yeah. And they and they have some live event in in Texas recently, Austin, Mcfountain. Right?

34:44Ian Yeah. So, you know, there's different individuals trying to produce content on these value for value platforms and then there's people like Open Mic that are building the value for value platforms. I could see us using Tunster in the future, you know, when we're at the point where we're performing music

35:02Ian live. That's a good platform that I plan on on using.

35:09Don Palmer So we'll use zap.stream more

35:13Ian in the future. Yeah. So Tunster is very similar to zap. Stream as far as I can tell. The biggest difference is it seems to have more of a music focus instead of just like a general streaming focus. One of one of the things that I really wanted to do over this past year, which I didn't really get around to do, is do a lot of live streams playing video games. I wanted to, play some Call of Duty and and live stream that but we didn't get around to do that I guess I think I think it's the bull market it's like

35:46Don Palmer playing video games. That's like that's what you do in the bear market. But in the bull market, it's just too busy. You think so? Yeah. I mean, if you can't code, then you can't pay all in the bear market. So there's nothing for you to do. If you're not a developer, there's really Bitcoin doesn't need you during the bear market. You're just kind of an annoying drag potentially.

36:08Don Palmer So that's why you should just focus on playing video games. When the bull market's coming, that's when you need to be orange pilling people. You need to be stacking sets. You need to be engaged. But the bandwagon, it's just it's if you get before we do taxes, just feel free to play video games.

36:25Ian Yeah. I I think the problem is I just didn't find anybody to do it with. And I I did go to the orange bar to monologue. That that was an event that was pretty interesting. So the the last booster on our list of top boosters is the orange bar, who I'm a big fan. I unfortunately didn't spend as much time there as I wanted to. And I think the problem is

36:50Ian is that the level of commitment required to get sufficiently good enough at Ross to understand what you're doing to to even be able to figure out how to wear clothes. Like, when I went there, I was naked. I couldn't figure out where to find clothes or how to make clothes.

37:08Ian And fortunately, somebody provided them to me, but I think I lost them after that.

37:14Don Palmer Because I should just be able to go right away. So you like a Bitcoin conference and buy a podcast t shirt, Bitcoin pajamas pants, Celio Fox, Orange Cross. Like, that should be, like, the very beginning of the game.

37:28Ian Well, I think you can do that in Orange Mort. I just haven't been able to figure out how to do that. I mean, it's like, we need BGC sessions to do tutorials on how to play Rust.

37:41Don Palmer Yeah. Honestly, getting beat out with the answer. BGC sessions tutorials with for Rust. Launch my I mean, that's they're gonna have through the roof of the new IPO.

37:53Unknown Totally.

37:55Ian It's it's definitely not yeah. It it might be that it just takes me a little bit of time to do these things to to figure them out. That might be the problem. It might be me. It might not be the orange part. For the average Bitcoin user,

38:10Don Palmer they might be able to get in there and Yeah. There shouldn't there shouldn't be there shouldn't be some sort of, guide. Kind Kinda like it. Like, when you go to buy clothes, like a Podkomp t shirt, it's like a size guide. It talks about, like, this many inches. It kind of talks about your dimensions and which size you should pick. But it's like if you go to Orange Mart, it's like, how hard is it to figure out rest? It's like, well, if it took you an hour to figure out a cold card or it took you a week or if it took you, you know, ten minutes to set up a lightning node and they're out of balance or channels, sometimes that takes some people never figure that out. So it it kinda needs to know, like, what level of difficulty

38:49Don Palmer is this before I will be, like, time my forty hours of tutorials

38:53Ian completion rate. I just don't wanna throw a party in Orange Mart. I think that would be a lot of fun at some point.

38:59Don Palmer Yeah. For sure. We do a live show, a live meet up in Orange Mart.

39:04Ian Totally. But, yeah, that kind of wraps up, top boosters. We were the eleventh biggest show on.

39:14Don Palmer Don't forget. And we also before we get out of this, didn't date the flood Myers and the government misfits points and hash to the bugle

39:23Ian for a while this year for last year. Yeah. I don't know if this individual wants us to share that they did it, but we we had an individual that did point us hash. So I I know John I don't I don't think John cares, but John pointed, I think, of almost a petahash at us for a little bit. And then, an individual close to the show who knows who they are pointed at s nine at us for, like, the entire winter last year, and that was pretty cool. They canceled me wrong last year. Thank you for that. Yeah. Yeah. It was great. Yeah. I I think the eleventh

40:04Ian biggest show on founding was pretty cool. It does it does suck to see that Mr. Obnoxious was above us. It's not surprising to see ungovernable misfits and no agenda

40:21Ian ahead of us and some of these other more, established podcasters that have been doing this longer. The the people have to remember, the Bugle Weekly has only existed for a year.

40:34Don Palmer How much, how many saps in 2024 did we end up donating to,

40:42Ian samurai? That's a very good question. I don't have a number on it, but I I would assume it's probably it's probably close to half 1,000,000 sats. That's what I would estimate it at. Nice. So, yeah, just a little just a a side effect of the value for value is just payment splits, which help you easily

41:02Don Palmer redirect some of your energy, some of your stats to, to causes like that. So the defense to fight against the state and the feds who are, it shouldn't be illegal to launder money in a democracy. And we're that's just something we stand for.

41:18Ian Yeah. I I didn't do a payment split. I want I asked, I asked the Bitcoin Policy Institute to set up a found account so that we could do the payment splits, but they never got around to it. So I was just donating manually on p2prights.org,

41:37Unknown which is a great website that you could go over

41:40Ian and donate. Yeah.

41:42Don Palmer So I would suggest it's okay. Some people, it's it's a natural bull market, but just all this drama between Bitcoin magazine, David Bailey, Dennis Porter and EPI about who who's doing it, who's behind the strategic Bitcoin reserve Kinda takes up time and it just takes up resources, that could have been going towards fighting for the samurai

42:04Don Palmer devs. You know, all they had to do was make that, make that that account, and they wouldn't even put that much of effort into defending them. So make sure what let's you know they're really studying case law in there in the offices.

42:18Ian Yeah. I would I would pin all of that on David Bailey. It's all his fault. All the all the drama taken away from people supporting samurai.

42:28Don Palmer Yeah. Yes. It's tough. But yeah. It's, yeah. We we got a lot of sound boosts and I was also curious about Blake Blake music. That was a huge debut and it's grown really quickly. Yeah. I,

42:44Ian I was doing the math and it's kinda hard to do the math do math and have a conversation at the same time. I was trying to add up all the, just the it only shows me the income from the top 10 songs. But, the my top song, boosted song, user brain, earned 85,741

43:07Ian sets. The second one, Marty says his time is different, earned 75,407 sets. And yeah, it goes on. But I I I probably earned, like, 250,

43:23Ian 300, 400,000 sets potentially.

43:28Don Palmer Oh. Yeah. I'm looking through mine. It was a little over 200,000 sats sound, but there's only it's a it's a really relatively small of heck and a lot of but,

43:42Don Palmer number one and it was this was a big hit. It was Girls on Spaces. Girls on Spaces was definitely a a pop one that was really popular. Archfield's Cowboys was next. My Digital Treasure, the one which is about Dennis Porter, which is a really good one. And it's if you're hearing about Dennis Porter more and more lately, go back and check that one out. It'll explain

44:07Don Palmer the backstory because he doesn't have much of of a backstory available outside that music. And then there was Miss The Days, which is my debut. All pretty pretty much, pop music, but it's fun. And it's got it's got funny lyrics. Music is fun.

44:25Don Palmer You are definitely more of a musician than I am. You've got a lot bigger catalog. What, what are you thinking about for next?

44:34Ian For their next album? Well, I'm trying to figure out or or finish the the user brain, album that I have going on right now. And I think this is my best album to date. I've got three songs published on it so far. I I try to get out roughly 10. The general theme is kinda like rock

44:56Ian slash, synth wave type rock, and I wanna stick with that. So I've got a song that I should be releasing relatively soon called, the battle is not lost, and I'm pretty excited about that.

45:14Ian But, yeah, I just wanna keep on cranking on, user brain. I I think I'm I'm gonna save the battles not lost. I feel pretty good about it. So I think I'm gonna save it for the the bugles, but I might I might release a song first and then do the music video with it because I'm pretty pumped on the music video as well. But

45:36Ian kinda my goal for 2025, so I'm in the process of relearning piano. So when when I was a kid, around the time that I started smoking cigarettes at at six years old, I began learning the piano and I ended up

45:53Ian when I went off to get my credentials in college, I ended up, stopping and playing piano. So I've been spending some time relearning the piano. I spent a couple hours on that today. I plan on doing that in the future. I've been thinking about taking some voice lessons, and I am planning on doing likely some guitar lessons

46:15Ian as well because I think it'd be really fun to perform a lot of this music. And I kinda have this vision of, like, you know, singing, playing the piano slash playing the guitar on Tunster, having Rayo play the drums,

46:35Ian and getting some of my friends to, you know, be involved with the music so that we could do live performances for people. Because I I really think that's the future of music. I think I think we

46:49Ian have to move back to being more analog in the in this world of pseudo spoofing and and nonsense. But, like, most of most of the stuff you hear on the radio these days is it's all it's all computer generated for the most part. Like, a lot of people's voices are are being auto tuned

47:13Ian and you can kinda see it where there's, like, a huge difference between their live singing voice and their the radio overly produced voice. And so I wanna see more live stuff, and I wanna participate in that and encourage that. It's cool to see platforms like Tuningster getting build out

47:33Don Palmer to be able to earn cigarette money right off the bat. Yeah. Yeah. Just just just speaking through a starving artist doesn't mean you don't serve cigarettes to

47:41Ian smoke. Totally. Yeah. I think I think it's only a matter of time before music really takes off. And and having a big catalog is interesting, but I wanna keep on cranking on it. I've I've definitely felt a rekindled

47:58Ian desire to really take music seriously. And I think probably the problem of why I had didn't pursue it in the past is I just didn't really see where I could, implement it in my life because my life was all around journalism and journalism and music don't typically go together. But like in this new medium of podcast journalism, music is,

48:24Ian I think, very complimentary

48:26Don Palmer to it. Absolutely. Yeah. The in the new era of Bitcoin podcast journalism, you don't have a network to make him a logo. You don't have a network to do you an intro song and to make graphics and to do crazy swirly things and show breaking news. You don't have a jingle. You don't have commercials being made for you. You don't have, like, you know, a newspaper logo.

48:54Don Palmer You have to make that all yourself, and it's it helps me. It just saves time. It's just helps to be more efficient. You have to be more thermodynamically sound with your time to

49:09Don Palmer cover to cover everything and capture the mood.

49:13Ian Yeah. I agree with that. I I think we'll probably bring more musicians in the mix. There's, there's been a new one that I've been pretty excited about that first in on the Wave Lake scene last couple weeks called, Run Dance, putting out some killer tunes. What about that,

49:30Don Palmer that Australian, Kai Kai Kai or whatever, Carmageddon?

49:39Ian I, may yeah. Yeah. She's been a big addition to Wave Lake. So this, Australian singer put out a song called Carmageddon,

49:51Ian and it is, killing it on Wave Lake

49:55Don Palmer and going viral around the world. It's it's it's very based. It is one of the best examples of a smoking hot blonde singing a very non compliant but also hit song. Do you wanna

50:10Ian sing a couple of the lines? Do you want me to? So that the listener knows what we're talking about. They probably haven't heard of it.

50:16Don Palmer Yeah. Yeah. You were you. You were analyzing the, the structure of the song. You just definitely, shared your your favorite

50:25Ian chorus or or lyric there. Man made virus. Watch the millions die. Biggest profits of their lives. Here's inflation, that's your prize. This is Carmageddon.

50:39Don Palmer Those are probably my favorite lines. I do know that was what was in the viral videos as well, so you should definitely check that out. Before before we get into the fountain boost for this episode, we wanna provide a little bit of an update on the bugles.

50:55Don Palmer So, there's a lot of anticipation for that, And we're working very hard to, to set everything up to secure the venue, secure the streaming rights. One of the biggest tasks was the bugle award itself,

51:13Don Palmer which is gonna be really excited to debut that. However, we had them made, and they were in a storage warehouse in the Los Angeles area. And during the wildfires, we suspect

51:28Don Palmer that the Fed has spruced a CIA asset in the area. One of the people setting fires throughout the city use that as an opportunity to burn down our storage unit and sabotage the fuels a little bit. But we're happy to announce that we're working with crypto cloaks now to redo

51:49Don Palmer the Buell Awards. And the one with the really hard and we're expecting that to come sometime in instead of January. We'll they get February, late February, maybe early March, but we will give you a date on that, very soon. So stay tuned.

52:07Ian Very excited about it. It's gonna be one of the greatest spectacles

52:12Don Palmer that you've ever seen. Then there will be cigarette smoking allowed at this, at this award show. So do not think that you will have to you won't be able to smoke at your table, smoke wherever you're watching. You'll be able to enjoy a cigarette. Very unfortunate what's happening in Los Angeles. I think

52:29Ian it it has been very disruptive to the Bitcoin podcast community. It's also been very disruptive to Hollywood. I think,

52:38Don Palmer I'm really excited next week to get into we'll have a lot we'll know a lot more about what's going on with this fire than what the out the outcome's going to result to be. And we can definitely get into some of the drama, some of the politics, and some of, you know, why we think that there's a it's time is up for Hollywood and it's kind of metaphoric and misfire.

53:03Ian But I'm excited to talk about that next week. Yeah. I I think the biggest lesson before without going into it too much is when you're trying to determine how much of a Bitcoin stack you should have, You should be able to afford if your house burns down and your insurance company pulls your fire insurance weeks before your house burns down.

53:29Ian Enough to rebuild but then also afford your property taxes in the process. Like, I think that's one of the challenges facing a lot of people is they're not prepared to be able to both afford to rebuild and to afford to pay their taxes.

53:47Ian A lot of people are really in a tough position right now.

53:51Don Palmer Right. Right. That is where we are, and it's kind of endemic to the rest of the country in a lot of ways. We can afford to pay our taxes right now. And we are some of us are doing very well. But we most of us cannot afford a tragedy

54:10Don Palmer and to recover from a tragedy and still be able to pay for and pay our taxes.

54:16Unknown Right. California

54:18Ian is one of the hardest street

54:20Don Palmer to be able to afford your taxes. Right. Right. It's the government. It does. If you wanna live in Malibu, if you wanna live in the Pacific Palisades for Brentwood neighborhoods, the you are going to have to pay a lot of taxes because they don't want you there.

54:39Don Palmer And they try hard to not to need to be there. They try to make it hard for you to get there. They don't want you to have access to that pay unless you can really afford to pay your taxes.

54:52Ian You have to be a Bitcoin holder to be able to afford to California. That's the reality that we're facing today. Yeah, let's get into the found boost though. First boost, starting out the year strong is John from Uncoverable Misfits. 88888¢.

55:13Ian John says, press forward with VIM and rigor and then a

55:17Don Palmer salute emoji. I can't think of a a better way for a tier one fountain booster such as John or us, than a, you know, an $8,088,000 sat boost straight to the point. Thank you so much, John. I mean, it's it's been an honor. It's been an honor of dominating

55:38Ian Fountain with you and everybody over at the Uncomfortable Misfits. It really has been a fun year with those guys. I I really appreciate those guys. They've been they've been reading Beagle stories on the regular big big supporters of the show pretty much since day one. Really appreciate those guys.

55:56Don Palmer Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. It's, they they get it. It's sometimes people just get it, and you get each other. The, the next one is from none other than, again, one of our our closest buddies, people that, have been a highlight of this Bitcoin podcast in the last year, Shadrach. He's asking when XMR chat, they precess 9,000 sats.

56:21Don Palmer So, yeah, you have do you have an update on, Richard? We're gonna we, we, for a small, we needed to, we needed to get Monero wallets because we have to do that to try to get, get, get Kaylee back from the Monero grows. So we're we're trying to, we're trying to rescue our girl, get our producer back. But we also were gonna set up, XMR chat. Right? So we can, transact more adversarially with some of our fans. Oh, I think we need to have a discussion.

56:51Ian Do we want to become shitcoiners? Are we okay with that? I

56:57Don Palmer am under the belief that I will accept anybody. Somebody wants to pay me in Monero. They wanna boost this podcast in Monero. I will accept that. I welcome their listenership. But I will I will respect their right to privacy

57:14Don Palmer and not read their boosts. Is that And if if okay. If you if you, do want to if you if you just let us know if you want to be doxxed, then we'll read your boost. But I just don't I just don't think that many Monero boosters

57:31Don Palmer are

57:32Unknown but I think they wanna stay private. That's my assumption. I don't read I think it's part of the rules right

57:38Ian now because it was the first person or it might have been Max that was telling me about XMR chat. I just I just googled it, and I couldn't seem to find it.

57:50Don Palmer So I know. I you know, I'm a tolerant person. I I totally respect and accept Monero Bros, but I just don't think they should force me to celebrate it. Celebrate Monero for a big point, bro. I don't really have any issues

58:07Ian personally with Monero. The the problem with it, you know, there's, like, some structural issues with it that I think are pretty obvious on its face. The first structural issue is that it's not Bitcoin, which means it's not thermodynamically

58:24Ian sound.

58:25Don Palmer It has a really low hash rate, and they try to say that that doesn't matter. But I think that they it's just really it's just talking in circles, because they're embarrassed that they don't have a high hash rate like Bitcoin does. People don't mind. People don't mind. You can't mine Mine Monero with a Bitaxe. And that when people find that out, they're pretty disappointed.

58:48Ian Totally. It is very disappointing that you can't mine with a a Bitaxe. There's no there's no doodad that you can buy in order to do it. You know, because that's like one thing that's really interesting about Bitcoiners. They have really high standards around this where instead of just,

59:08Ian you know, using a general purpose typewriter, they need to buy a specific single use device. Right? They need to buy a node in the box instead of spinning up a or a node on

59:23Ian just a general purpose device. And I'm not really sure why that is because it doesn't really seem very logically consistent

59:35Ian to me. It might just be that it it's their dedication to podcast listening. Right? They want to support the sponsors of their favorite podcast by buying their doodads

59:50Ian in order to make sure that those companies continue to sponsor the podcast they listen to. And if that's the motivation, I think that

1:00:01Ian that's a very noble reason why. But

1:00:07Don Palmer I just I just I don't I just don't like the fact that they it's an old one why they don't give you the sovereignty to run to mine Monero on whatever device you choose. They it's like Apple. You can't change anything.

1:00:23Don Palmer It's like you can only use a CPU. Well, I might have GPUs because I like to game, or I might have GPUs because I am in AI. I might have an ASIC. I might have what if I what if I need to heat my house in the wintertime? Do I'm gonna be punished for owning ASICs and not allowed to mine Monero? I don't need computers. I have I need ASICs to heat my home. But I I they they say that they do that because they don't want big companies to adopt their

1:00:55Don Palmer currency for their balance sheet. They don't want those companies to take over the hash rate. And but that just means to me that, they must not be confident in the game theory and the incentives of their protocol if they're worried about

1:01:10Ian companies adding it to the balance sheet. Well, I mean, this is a pretty good marketing tactic. If you can't be number one, you know what I mean? You you have to pretend like being number one doesn't matter.

1:01:22Don Palmer Right. Like being number one is a trade off. Exactly.

1:01:25Ian Like you you if you're not number one, all you do is and and we do this with Peter McCormick to some extent. You know, you're like, we can't be Peter McCormick so we have to rag on him all the time

1:01:40Ian as far as why being number one doesn't matter.

1:01:44Don Palmer Why why exactly it's like we wanna be number one so bad and we can't handle this. We we understand why other people don't see why we're number one. So we have to make it up, some handicaps, you know. We're better at other things. We're better at we have a better video quality. We have better audio quality. We have, it's easier to listen to the you know, I mean, it's it's There's excuses, it's not our fault.

1:02:09Ian Well, I mean, there there's some things that we do seriously better than Peter McCormick, which are pretty obvious to the average listener. So the the first the first self apparent thing that isn't really worth the time explaining but I will anyways, is we're both American, which makes us both better by default. Right? Our nation has the world reserve currency. We have the best means.

1:02:37Ian We have the most missiles. We have the most or second most nuclear weapons. We our our our nation invented nuclear weapons.

1:02:47Don Palmer Right. And that's it. This is this is core to the reason that we're better. People like Peter and people like Alex Gladstein, they spread this

1:03:01Don Palmer misinformation that the people who need Bitcoin most are people in the global South. The people who need Bitcoin most are people in the eyes, people who are on the dollar standard. The US dollar is the reserve currency. The people who need Bitcoin most are the people who

1:03:22Don Palmer are the biggest victims of that, which are American citizens and just people who live in the industrialized

1:03:27Ian West where the dollar is the most dominant. Yeah. I mean because the dollar isn't that special. When when you live in the global South, you don't really need Bitcoin because you can have Tether. Right? But in The US, you don't really need the use of of Tether. Right?

1:03:46Ian You need the use of Bitcoin.

1:03:48Don Palmer We need Exactly. Exactly. It's, yeah. It's what he said, the the influence here of fiat is just so much stronger. The psyops in The US government media, in the Western media are just so much more expensive.

1:04:07Don Palmer And it's similar to the problem with Monero. When the hash rate isn't dominated by the most thermodynamically sound operators, the most thermodynamically sound Monero podcast listeners,

1:04:23Don Palmer The value of the network suffers. And the people with the most thermodynamically sound, people in The United States, in the global West are Bitcoiners. They are the quintod casters, people that have access to dollars and who can drive a could you even buy the most Bitcoin?

1:04:43Don Palmer And it's the the just better capital allocators.

1:04:47Ian Yeah. I mean, the the whole idea of having an ASIC resistant cryptocurrency is kinda silly because you

1:04:58Ian you take the potential from Bitmain like, here here's your two choices if you create a cryptocurrency. Right? Or actually, there's three choices of as far as who controls it. So if if you're allowing for staking on your cryptocurrency, if you go proof of stake, the exchanges control it. Right? Because they're they're typically gonna be the biggest holders

1:05:21Ian of the currency, especially if it's a if it's a newer one,

1:05:26Don Palmer that is pre mined. So to sum that up, in a proof of stake blockchain, the merchant's lens controls consensus.

1:05:38Unknown Yeah. Yeah. I would argue that.

1:05:41Ian If you're if you're doing just kind of general proof of work, if you pick an algorithm and you stick with it, then Bitmain's gonna control it, the the biggest user or producer of hardware and

1:05:56Ian arguably one of the biggest controllers of the mining pool's infrastructure. And then if you do an ASIC resistant, cryptocurrency like

1:06:07Ian Monero, where you change the hashing algorithm regularly so that nobody can develop an ASIC for it, then who who has the most CPUs in the world? There's like a few entities that have a lot of CPUs.

1:06:22Ian Right?

1:06:24Don Palmer Yeah. But not run of state. The CIA, the Pentagon, they're full of desktop computers, Libraries just the state is behind, so they have just tons of computers. They think the PC is important, and they can just turn all the I mean, half of the government what do they say? It's more than half exactly. It's like 90% of the federal government has not gone back to work since

1:06:50Don Palmer COVID stay at home policies. That means there are hundreds of acres of Pentagon offices full of computers running every day that nobody has to use. They could be mining Monero with it.

1:07:05Don Palmer And that makes the most sense because that is just that's just it's just numbers. It's just prob probabilities that the CIA is running all the all the Monero nodes.

1:07:18Ian Totally. Or or Amazon Web Services, which sometimes is hard to differentiate.

1:07:25Don Palmer Exactly. Yeah. So over our Azure, so might you know, Bill Gates Bill Gates' client. So, I mean,

1:07:32Ian the the question is who do you want controlling your cryptocurrency? Do you want it to be it main? Do you want it to be Coinbase and and finance? Or do you want it to be the CIA

1:07:46Ian and Amazon? And that's not

1:07:49Don Palmer an easy those and all those guys' computer data is controlled by Peter Thiel. Yeah.

1:07:56Ian I mean, that's not really an easy question to answer, but I just on his face, I I don't think I want the CIA in that essay controlling the network or at least having the most hash rate.

1:08:12Don Palmer Yeah. That's exactly. If if you just don't wanna give the CIA the ability to rewrite history. And if you're operating on a protocol,

1:08:24Don Palmer whether it's on chain or some higher level, maybe some abstract social layer in in your community, you just don't want to be around people. You still want to transact with people who are all willing to let the CIA rewrite their history and go along with it and frame hard fork, if the website tells them to twice a year.

1:08:46Don Palmer You can't and Doug sums it up. You just don't want somebody who will hard fork their entire consensus model for reality based on what a website says every couple of months. It's just the world's the world's dream science out there.

1:09:01Ian Totally. So I mean, that's a really long answer, Shadrach, to to win XMR chat. So I I I think we're okay with being little bits of shitcoiners. Right, to to dabble a little bit to to just dip our toes in to see what the free market thinks.

1:09:21Ian We're not gonna go full, see what the free market thinks. But,

1:09:28Don Palmer yeah, depending on how I will say I will say I will say this. If somebody offered to sell me non KYC feed mix, I would always use Monero. Yeah. Why is that? Yeah. I just think that and that is I don't want my my wife or my girlfriend

1:09:48Don Palmer to to look at my taxes and see that we can't afford taxes because I spent, but, you know, some Bitcoin that was at a thousand percent gain on some when all the KY non KYC fee picks. I would rather take my chances that only a couple of CIA spooks would know that that this doesn't show up on my taxes. Interesting.

1:10:11Don Palmer Which is a use case. Yeah.

1:10:13Ian To to nicely answer your question, Shattrick, because you asked the question on the agenda, and I'll get it set up as soon as Lincoln Park rules, helps me out with it.

1:10:28Unknown So it's all kinda dependent on

1:10:31Ian on his response time. And I know he's a he's a real busy guy. So hopefully, it'll be by next week, but I can't I can't even find it on Google. So it's so it's so private. You can't even find it in

1:10:46Unknown a in a browser search

1:10:50Ian or search engine. Next boost is from Pies for a thousand sats. It says LFG, the Beagles award show. I'm considering throwing a listen party where all where all that would be served is locally sourced alcohol and non KYC cigarettes with mixed tobacco and weed. Okay. So this is a really interesting idea. Maybe what we should do

1:11:15Ian is we should have live streams going across the country, across the world for different watch parties of the bugles and do short interviews locally. And we could we could beam in to the audience and their reactions

1:11:33Ian in the watch parties.

1:11:34Don Palmer That's perfect. So I think we should do that. We should definitely, incorporate those into the, into the feed, and then we can also find ways to let them let them react to and and and do reaction interviews till I could did they think?

1:11:53Don Palmer Did did Philly think the Philadelphia did they think that was the best mentor podcast? Or did the, the guys down in Los Angeles or the the guys in Florida? Because probably everybody's like a little, give their attorney somehow.

1:12:08Ian I agree. I I think that's a great idea, Pies. I would highly encourage you do that and, please reach out to me, however you deem is best. Telegram works probably the best for me. That's how I prefer to communicate.

1:12:29Ian But we can work out a a different one if you're really against using

1:12:36Don Palmer So I see it. For some reason, this is unrelated. I just feel like Pies probably hits on girls in his local area from Facebook Messenger. Maybe I'm wrong. Let me know Pies.

1:12:49Ian Speaking of Facebook Messenger, did you see that, did you see any of the podcasts that Zuckerberg did with

1:12:59Don Palmer Oh, yeah. Yeah. That was, that was what I was really hoping to get on the agenda next week as well with, what's going on this entire government vibe shift that's that's hitting this year.

1:13:12Ian Yeah. Maybe we'll save that for next week. I I will say I just wanna give a little hint about it. So I don't know if the interview is really worth listening. You should probably be listening to Bitcoin podcast instead of Rogan. But, Zuckerberg

1:13:28Ian essentially blamed all the censorship on Facebook's HR department and the government. And, he said, what can I do?

1:13:39Ian You know, our hands are tied. HR departments, all they wanna do is comply. The government was yelling at them to ban memes. You know, I I'm too busy, you know, building this innovative future to be focused entirely on content moderation. We left that up to HR.

1:13:60Don Palmer So, yeah, he's kinda Yeah. I don't trust I that's what I use from Facebook. I do not trust a company that leaves that big of a duty and responsibility

1:14:11Ian to its users up to HR. Yeah. I think it's a really bad move and it it sounds like there's this general shift. Like he he slapped HR on the wrist and is like, hey, you guys gotta knock this off and and quit being so lame. But I I I think it's also part of the shift and just moving to Trump's America is I don't think Trump's administration is gonna be yelling at social media companies, HR departments, to censor in the same way.

1:14:41Don Palmer Oh, yeah. Definitely not. Trump will just we'll we'll say it on Twitter or x directly. So it strikes the people. Hell, yeah. We'll blast in the last few year. We got 303 333 sats from wartime. And it does cheers to alcohol.

1:15:02Don Palmer Cheers, wartime. Thank you for listening and for boosting. So got a BTC onboard hashtag lenhance or hashtag CTV with 300 zaps, and he sent us two lightning emojis, two fire emojis. Thank you, BTC onboard. Pies again.

1:15:21Don Palmer Yo. And then a bunch of mushroom man cigarette emojis and other 100 sats to x pies for, for coming back and hitting us again for I I assume that means we were one of your favorites. You listened to it twice.

1:15:36Ian Thank you very much, WISE, and, BTC on board and and more time. Appreciate it. Yeah. I guess that wraps up the show for today. And,

1:15:49Don Palmer do you have anything before we close? I just state that the that God can handle the strategic the Trump orange pill extravaganza, It's coming. It's coming a week from, I think, when this will come out. The poll market is not even the hilly begun. And

1:16:11Don Palmer when the number goes up, the psy ops are gonna go with it. And I think we're gonna start seeing that and we're gonna get into that next week because it's already starting.

1:16:20Ian Yeah. There there's a whole another year of psy ops to prepare for important tactics in order to make yourself SIOP proof. Just to give you

1:16:34Ian a sneak preview, I think you probably already know but number one on the list smoke cigarettes to vaccinate yourself because CIA sign offs. Yeah. I think the next few

1:16:48Don Palmer months, people may be able to take the Google Podcast episodes and use it because we're going to kinda give you a cypherpunk survival guide to the bull market. What the bull market?

1:16:59Ian Yeah. We'll catch you next week on the Blue Book Weekly. Later.

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