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diff --git a/wiki/characters/rev-hodl.md b/wiki/characters/rev-hodl.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..284c3030 @@ -0,0 +1,264 @@ +--- +title: Rev Hodl +type: character +factions: + - ISR +portrait: /portraits/x-rev-hodl.jpg +status: confirmed +aliases: + - Rev Hoddle + - Rev Huddle + - Rev Huddl + - Rev Hottle + - Red Hoddle + - Rev Models + - Carl +sources: + - raw/episodes/recovering-from-a-noncompliant-4th-bugle-weekly-episode-16/bundle.json + - raw/episodes/the-calm-before-the-storm-bugle-weekly-episode-18/bundle.json + - raw/episodes/back-in-the-saddle-podcasting-again-bugle-weekly-episode-71/bundle.json + - raw/episodes/podcaster-wealth-inequality-bugle-weekly-episode-72/bundle.json + - raw/episodes/humor-knotzi-police-state-bugle-weekly-episode-73/bundle.json + - raw/episodes/pioneers-run-economic-nodes-bugle-weekly-episode-74/bundle.json + - raw/episodes/a-renaissance-man-intellectual-silk-road-episode-1/bundle.json + - raw/episodes/rising-above-slop-bugle-weekly-episode-84/bundle.json + - raw/episodes/in-the-midst-of-madness-bugle-weekly-episode-102/bundle.json + - raw/episodes/bitcoin-magazine-maxi-madness-victory-twitter-spaces-with-casey-and-erin/bundle.json + - raw/episodes/hard-lessons-for-plebs-bugle-weekly-episode-103/bundle.json + - raw/episodes/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5/bundle.json + - raw/episodes/the-plebs-killed-jesus-bugle-weekly-episode-104/bundle.json + - raw/episodes/is-trump-taking-ibogaine-bugle-weekly-episode-106/bundle.json + - raw/episodes/fabian-slop-summer-bugle-weekly-episode-114/bundle.json + - raw/episodes/kayfabians-bugle-weekly-episode-116/bundle.json +--- + +> *Henry's note: rebuilt from the beat index — 48 beats across 16 episodes, coverage COMPLETE. The old body was a stub plus a mechanical mention list; both are replaced.* + +**Rev Hodl** is the Bugleverse's off-grid homesteader — a permaculturist, meetup +organizer, and co-host (with a partner named Reid) of the *Local Bitcoiners* +podcast, who was for two years a fond boost-line regular before winning the +inaugural Nostr edition of [[events/maxi-madness-2026|Maxi Madness]] as a 16 +seed. He is the show's model of the sovereign frontiersman: the man who "lives +off the land" and is confident "because he's done the proof of work."[^homesteader] +His whole philosophy is that permaculture — the design of self-sustaining +ecosystems — is the correct template for Bitcoin culture, money, and, eventually, +tournament strategy. + +**In it with:** [[characters/richard-greaser|Richard Greaser]] · [[characters/rod-palmer|Rod Palmer]] · [[characters/matt-odell|Matt Odell]] · [[characters/jack-dorsey|Jack Dorsey]] · [[characters/noa-gruman|Noa Gruman]] · [[characters/otis-bittmeyer|Otis Bittmeyer]] · [[characters/fundamentals|Fundamentals]] · the Meshtadel group chat · Lake Satoshi + +**Arc:** [[storylines/pioneers-of-the-frontier]] · [[storylines/intellectual-silk-road]] · [[storylines/maxi-madness]] · [[storylines/softwar]] · [[storylines/40-hours-per-week]] + +## The permaculture pioneer (2024) + +He arrives as a voice on the boost line. His earliest appearance is a 2,121-sat +boost into [[episodes/recovering-from-a-noncompliant-4th-bugle-weekly-episode-16|Recovering From A Noncompliant 4th]] +carrying the thesis the whole character is later built from: "permanent money +creates permanent culture all through the lines of proper credential +journalism."[^permanent] [[characters/rod-palmer|Rod Palmer]] reports he follows +"Red Hoddle" on Nostr and sees him in the [[storylines/intellectual-silk-road|Intellectual Silk Road]] +chats, with the caveat that there are two of him and you must "make sure you +follow the right one."[^permanent] + +Two weeks later he is promoted from booster to exemplar. In *The Calm Before The +Storm* he is held up as the episode's proof-of-work archetype — "a off the grid +homesteader… He is sovereign," confident precisely "because he's done the proof of +work" — the man who did a podcast with Plebchain Radio and runs a weed +podcast.[^homesteader] It is the founding claim: Rev Hodl's authority is earned +by labour, not credentials, which is exactly the frontier virtue the show keeps +returning to. + +## Boost-line regular (2025) + +Through 2025 he becomes a fixture of the read-outs, each boost adding a facet. +[[characters/richard-greaser|Richard Greaser]]'s [[events/maxi-madness-2026|Lake Satoshi]] +report casts him as a single-issue Monero evangelist — "all he wanted to talk +about was Monero the whole time" — after a bad week for the coin.[^monero] When +Rod carves out which activities earn [[memes/40hpw|40 hours of Bitcoin podcast per +week]] credit, the homesteader running a node creatively is the named exception: +"if you're a homesteader, you're you're creating your reality," and that "counts, +I guess, as forty hours of Bitcoin podcast per week."[^40hpw] + +His boosts start supplying the show's own vocabulary. A meetup ad folds the +purity-test motif into a merit-badge joke — "once you add another badge to your +priority test sash, attend your local Bitcoin meetup"[^sash] — and another lands +the coinage Rod calls perfect advertising, telling grumps to show up and "leave +with your yeehaw pioneer energy."[^yeehaw] In [[episodes/pioneers-run-economic-nodes-bugle-weekly-episode-74|Pioneers Run Economic Nodes]] +Rod runs the episode's own pleb/pioneer test on him and he passes clean — "an +economic note in the circular economy," to which Greaser adds "True +pioneer."[^econnode] By the first *Intellectual Silk Road* he is the fixed point +of the homesteading map, the man you would "start a homestead next to" if you were +settling anywhere.[^neighbor] And in *Rising Above Slop* his 721-sat boost calls +for the pioneers to organize — "it's time the pioneers organized a rally"[^rally] +— which occasions the origin story of the "paint the lawn orange" bit, in which +plebs painted the tips of the grass orange at the Michigan capitol in Lansing to +show politicians they like Bitcoin.[^paintorigin] + +## Maxi Madness (2026) + +The [[storylines/maxi-madness|Maxi Madness]] Nostr edition — a bracket run on +Primal's zap-weighted polls — is where the boost-line regular becomes the +protagonist. Entering as the lowest seed, +Rev Hodl's round-one result against [[characters/jack-dorsey|Jack Dorsey]] was +first mis-tallied by Primal's buggy polls; a recount confirmed that "in reality, +Rev Huddle had won" and disqualified Dorsey.[^recount] Greaser, who recused +himself from betting the bracket on his own [[sponsors/predyx|Predyx]] market +because he facilitates it, named Rev Hodl as who he would back to win it +all — "He just continues to get momentum. He's probably the most engaged," and +"He's really milking it right now."[^conflict][^engaged] The reinstatement was +settled on air, mid-boost: "you're back in because of a clerical issue."[^clerical] + +The pick held. The [[episodes/bitcoin-magazine-maxi-madness-victory-twitter-spaces-with-casey-and-erin|victory spaces]] +report a 16 seed champion after millions of sats spent — "won the tournament. Rev +Hoddle, absolutely incredible guy"[^champion] — and the show immediately booked +the winner's interview before moving on "to the Sodom and Gomorrah of the PodCon +Super Bowl."[^book] + +## The doctrine of victory + +The interview is [[episodes/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5|How To Win Maxi Madness With Rev Hodl]], +an hour in which he retrofits the entire tournament onto permaculture. The +governing framework is the three ethics — "earth care, people care, and the third +ethic I call non extraction"[^ethics] — with non-extraction as the axis he applies +to everything after. Social capital is a "polyculture": the Meshtadel group chat, +the local meetup homies, and the wider Nostr community are separate plants in one +food forest.[^polyculture] Even a passing one-word interjection from Greaser gets +absorbed — tobacco becomes his figure for the vibe-coding shipper "everyone +craves" who never shows up to the meetup.[^tobacco] + +His campaign was run on non-extraction rather than favour-trading: max-voters were +offered physical goods already circulating in his local economy — "a jar of maple +syrup from me, a pack of my cannabis seeds, a free ticket to Lake Satoshi, a bag +of Otis Big Meyer coffee"[^bribe] — the last being [[characters/otis-bittmeyer|Otis Bittmeyer]]'s +brand. Round one against Dorsey he deliberately left unfought, "another +permaculture principle… Observe and interact."[^observe] He read the whole result +as a referendum: the Nostr voters "don't care about BIP one ten, and they don't +care about PodConf and and Swan," they care about meetups and podcasting.[^referendum] + +The reframe that gives the episode its spine is that his opponent was never a +person. "It wasn't me versus Odell. It was me versus Predix" — the +[[sponsors/predyx|Predyx]] prediction market that had priced the matchup as a +walkover, and which the group chat "totally shut… down. Proved it wrong."[^predyx] +He alleged, without naming anyone, that someone had gamed Primal's web of trust +with spun-up npubs to move the poll.[^npubs] Running it through +[[characters/jason-lowery|Jason Lowery]]'s *Softwar*, he called the Meshtadel's +million-sat semifinal push "power projection" without violence, and delivered the +catchphrase that Rod instantly christened "Soft War One": "the whole Maxi Madness +thing is software" — soft war, rendered by the ASR as one word, which is the +joke.[^softwar1][^softwar2] + +The interview also enters two pieces of biography into the record. He launched a +meetup-organizer podcast, *Local Bitcoiners*, co-hosted with Reid, and uses it as +evidence that the bear-market gloom is an online illusion — the meetups are +buzzing.[^localbitcoiners] And he dated his own crash-out to roughly a year +earlier, blaming [[events/paper-bitcoin-summer|Paper Bitcoin Summer]] for killing +the meetup vibe with MicroStrategy and price talk — "paper Bitcoin summer +destroyed the meetups"[^papersummer] — until the group chat staged an intervention: +"they got on a call, and they, like, talked me off the ledge."[^intervention] From +that he derives his definition of crashing out, seconded by Rod: it is "not up to +you," it is a network effect with no sovereign opt-out.[^networkeffect] His slogan +for what distinguishes Nostr from Twitter is "DIY or DFI. Like, do it yourself or +go fuck yourself" — on Nostr your feed is your own responsibility.[^diy] On the +purity-testing that animates the rest of the Bugleverse he is a dissenter: in +meetup culture "you don't need to pass all the purity tests," because the point is +that people show up.[^purity] + +Left to run, the frontier thesis reaches the stars. His falsification test for the +moon mission is photographs of "people that are, like, forty feet tall, and +they're all hot" — not aliens, he insists, "just people like us that are just +forty feet tall."[^moon] The public ledger and signed Nostr notes are a résumé for +first contact: when the aliens arrive "they can see who the fuck's been +participating in Bitcoin and Gnoster," and the Pleiadians will prefer pioneers to +"the people who are, basically Fiat."[^aliens] Asked to rule on whether runner-up +[[characters/noa-gruman|Noa Gruman]] is a Pleiadian, he judges it likely on the +strength of her decentralized-music work.[^pleiadian] Greaser knights him a true +[[storylines/first-turning-era|first-turning]] pioneer against a majority "still +living in the four turning," and he answers "strong men make good +times."[^turning] The closing sermon is the chapter title: with number-go-up off +the table, "you have to hyper Bitcoin as your own life" through the local +community[^sermon] — and the only way to know Maxi Madness was more than a game is +if "you listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast per week and… you listen to the +bugle."[^signoff] + +## After the crown + +He reverts to a boost-line institution, now with a title. Greaser cross-plugs the +interview as "a good one";[^crossplug] a Rev Hodl boost occasions the show's honest +verdict on Podcasting 2.0 — the mechanism works, but plebs would rather buy +trinkets than fund podcasters;[^pod20] another gets Greaser's line that "counting +Podkoff out is kinda like counting the neocons out," since plebs crashing out about +[[orgs/podconf|PodConf]] only solidifies it.[^neocons] By July 2026 his boost is +lobbying to hire [[characters/fundamentals|Fundamentals]] as a +[[orgs/the-bugle|Bugle]] News journalist — "if Brian Hersheld is a credentialed +journalist, Beagle News should hire him" — a callback to the permanent-money-and- +credentialed-journalism thesis he opened with two years earlier.[^hire] + +## Disputed: who did he beat, and where + +The show's own account of the bracket's shape contradicts itself once. In the +winner's interview and the cold open of *Hard Lessons For Plebs*, the semifinal is +the Odell matchup — the Meshtadel "was the group chat that took down Odell in the +semifinals"[^semifinal] — and the final is against Noa Gruman, whom Greaser calls +the tournament's runner-up.[^pleiadian] Later in that same episode, however, +Greaser describes "the final between Odell and Rev Huddl, there was a million sats +on that single poll,"[^disputedfinal] collapsing the record-setting semifinal poll +into the final. The consistent reading across the other sources is Odell in the +semifinal, Gruman in the final; the single "final between Odell and Rev Huddl" line +is the outlier, kept here because the show never corrects it. + +## Note on the name + +The ASR cannot hold him steady. He appears as **Rev Hoddle, Rev Huddle, Rev Huddl, +Rev Hottle, Red Hoddle,** and **Rev Models**, and in at least three places the +transcriber drops the handle entirely and renders Greaser addressing him as +"**Carl**" — including "Well, Carl, I gotta say" during the knighting, where the +referent is unambiguously Rev Hodl.[^turning] The `aliases:` carry these so a +name-match scan does not lose the arc; every beat above was resolved from context. + +> irl: Rev Hodl is a real Nostr personality and permaculture homesteader active in +> the Bitcoin meetup scene, which is why the satire can hand him a genuine +> tournament win and a real podcast without inventing either. + +[^permanent]: [[transcripts/recovering-from-a-noncompliant-4th-bugle-weekly-episode-16#t-3405|Bugle Weekly 16 @ 56:45]] — boost spans cues 3405/3408/3411; ASR "rev huddle" / "Red Hoddle" / "rev models". Rod's follow warning at t-3451: "There's two rev models on Monster." +[^homesteader]: [[transcripts/the-calm-before-the-storm-bugle-weekly-episode-18#t-3925|Bugle Weekly 18 @ 1:05:25]] — the ASR renders the name "Ava" (t-3906); read as Rev Hodl from "off the grid homesteader," the Plebchain Radio credit, and the weed podcast, explicitly not Matt Odell. "lives off the way" is ASR for "lives off the land." +[^monero]: [[transcripts/back-in-the-saddle-podcasting-again-bugle-weekly-episode-71#t-613|Bugle Weekly 71 @ 10:13]] — ASR "Rev Hoddle." Triggered by a bad week for Monero and a Vlad Costea appearance. +[^40hpw]: [[transcripts/podcaster-wealth-inequality-bugle-weekly-episode-72#t-1462|Bugle Weekly 72 @ 24:22]] — the exemplar is named at t-1440, "if you're like Carl, Rev Hoddle, if you're a homesteader." +[^sash]: [[transcripts/humor-knotzi-police-state-bugle-weekly-episode-73#t-3928|Bugle Weekly 73 @ 1:05:28]] — "priority test sash" is ASR for "purity test sash"; a boost for the South Bend, Indiana meetup. +[^yeehaw]: [[transcripts/pioneers-run-economic-nodes-bugle-weekly-episode-74#t-3623|Bugle Weekly 74 @ 1:00:23]] — boost for the South Bend meetup's one-year anniversary; Rod calls it "perfect advertising" and reuses the phrase at t-3879. +[^econnode]: [[transcripts/pioneers-run-economic-nodes-bugle-weekly-episode-74#t-3675|Bugle Weekly 74 @ 1:01:15]] — full line "Rev huddle is an economic note in the circular economy" (t-3670→3679); "note" is the ASR's standing error for "node." Greaser: "True pioneer." (t-3685). +[^neighbor]: [[transcripts/a-renaissance-man-intellectual-silk-road-episode-1#t-3249|ISR 1 @ 54:09]] — ASR "Rev Huddle"; Rod, "to start a homestead next to Rev Huddle." +[^rally]: [[transcripts/rising-above-slop-bugle-weekly-episode-84#t-2778|Bugle Weekly 84 @ 46:18]] — "seven twenty one sats from Rev Hoddle"; the chapter is titled "Rev Hodl: Rally on the Frontier." +[^paintorigin]: [[transcripts/rising-above-slop-bugle-weekly-episode-84#t-2816|Bugle Weekly 84 @ 46:56]] — the origin of the "paint the lawn orange" bit, at the Michigan capitol in Lansing; "The rally meme came from, Lake Satoshi" (t-2807). +[^recount]: [[transcripts/in-the-midst-of-madness-bugle-weekly-episode-102#t-235|Bugle Weekly 102 @ 3:55]] — "that Rev Huddle had won. And in reality, Rev Huddle had won"; Jack Dorsey disqualified. +[^conflict]: [[transcripts/in-the-midst-of-madness-bugle-weekly-episode-102#t-1388|Bugle Weekly 102 @ 23:08]] — "predates" is ASR for Predyx; Greaser recuses himself and names Rev Hodl to win it all. +[^engaged]: [[transcripts/in-the-midst-of-madness-bugle-weekly-episode-102#t-1403|Bugle Weekly 102 @ 23:23]]. +[^clerical]: [[transcripts/in-the-midst-of-madness-bugle-weekly-episode-102#t-2977|Bugle Weekly 102 @ 49:37]] — read as the Dorsey/Rev Hodl recount settled on air, mid-boost; the passage is muddled by an adjacent boost about Rob Hamilton beating Dorsey. +[^champion]: [[transcripts/bitcoin-magazine-maxi-madness-victory-twitter-spaces-with-casey-and-erin#t-2618|Maxi Madness victory spaces @ 43:38]] — "a 16 seed" is the preceding cue (2616); ASR "Rev Hoddle," "Noster" for Nostr. +[^book]: [[transcripts/hard-lessons-for-plebs-bugle-weekly-episode-103#t-2631|Bugle Weekly 103 @ 43:51]] — "We're gonna interview Rev Huddl, the winner"; "the Sodom and Gomorrah of the PodCon Super Bowl" at t-2652. +[^ethics]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-190|ISR 5 @ 3:10]] — restated for Nostr at t-2148, "Extraction doesn't work on Noister." +[^polyculture]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-229|ISR 5 @ 3:49]]. +[^tobacco]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-604|ISR 5 @ 10:04]] — Greaser supplies "Tobacco." at t-569. +[^bribe]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-352|ISR 5 @ 5:52]] — list finishes at t-358, "a bag of Otis Big Meyer coffee," ASR for Otis Bittmeyer. Lake Satoshi, a Michigan meetup event, has no page yet. +[^observe]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-1081|ISR 5 @ 18:01]] — "right off the bat, I against Jack Dorsey, I didn't try to do anything… Observe and interact." +[^referendum]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-877|ISR 5 @ 14:37]] — Greaser presses the reading at t-905, "a referendum against Podkoff." "BIP one ten" is BIP-110; "Podkoff" is ASR for PodConf. +[^predyx]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-925|ISR 5 @ 15:25]] — "Predix" is ASR for Predyx; "it wasn't me versus Odell" at t-923; payoff "totally shut that prediction market down. Proved it wrong" at t-972. +[^npubs]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-950|ISR 5 @ 15:50]] — "men pumps" is ASR for "npubs"; Rev declines to name the culprit at t-927, "someone had figured out I'm not gonna say who." +[^softwar1]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-1302|ISR 5 @ 21:42]] — "Jason Lohrey" is ASR for Jason Lowery; sentence continues "that was the Meshedale right there" (t-1306). +[^softwar2]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-1345|ISR 5 @ 22:25]] — "soft war" rendered "software" throughout; Rod, "this was the first soft war" (t-1369). +[^localbitcoiners]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-2186|ISR 5 @ 36:26]] — Local Bitcoiners, co-hosted with Reid (named at t-2204); neither has a page yet. +[^papersummer]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-2568|ISR 5 @ 42:48]] — MicroStrategy named at t-2582. +[^intervention]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-2594|ISR 5 @ 43:14]] — "Metrodol" is ASR for the Meshtadel group chat, not Matt Odell despite the sound. +[^networkeffect]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-2627|ISR 5 @ 43:47]] — Rod formalizes it; Rev's setup at t-2619, "it's not up to you… it's up to how the people that you're talking to perceive your actions." +[^diy]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-2042|ISR 5 @ 34:02]]. +[^purity]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-2802|ISR 5 @ 46:42]] — no purity-tester is named; the reference is generic. His meetup doctrine at t-2767, "the problem is the solution." +[^moon]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-2951|ISR 5 @ 49:11]] — "just people like us that are just forty feet tall" (t-2977). +[^aliens]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-3126|ISR 5 @ 52:06]] — "Gnoster" is ASR for Nostr; Pleiadian/reptilian payoff at t-3158. +[^pleiadian]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-3282|ISR 5 @ 54:42]] — "Noah Gruum" is ASR for Noa Gruman; "Palladian" at t-3298 is the star cluster, not Pledditor. +[^turning]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-3442|ISR 5 @ 57:22]] — Greaser's address at t-3437 is rendered "Well, Carl, I gotta say," directed at Rev Hodl; "strong men make good times" at t-3498. +[^sermon]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-3397|ISR 5 @ 56:37]]. +[^signoff]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-3723|ISR 5 @ 1:02:03]]. +[^crossplug]: [[transcripts/the-plebs-killed-jesus-bugle-weekly-episode-104#t-3391|Bugle Weekly 104 @ 56:31]] — ASR "Rev Hoddle." +[^pod20]: [[transcripts/is-trump-taking-ibogaine-bugle-weekly-episode-106#t-3581|Bugle Weekly 106 @ 59:41]] — off a Rev Hodl boost; "reflings" is ASR for trinkets. +[^neocons]: [[transcripts/fabian-slop-summer-bugle-weekly-episode-114#t-3915|Bugle Weekly 114 @ 1:05:15]] — answering a Rev Hodl boost carrying #40hpw; "Podkoff" is ASR for PodConf. +[^hire]: [[transcripts/kayfabians-bugle-weekly-episode-116#t-3061|Bugle Weekly 116 @ 51:01]] — "Rev Hoddle" (t-3059) and "Beagle News" are ASR for Rev Hodl and Bugle News; "Brian Hersheld" is Fundamentals. +[^semifinal]: [[transcripts/how-to-win-maxi-madness-with-rev-hodl-isr-5#t-323|ISR 5 @ 5:23]] — "The Meshedale was the group chat that took down Odell in the semifinals"; this is Matt Odell, not Pledditor. +[^disputedfinal]: [[transcripts/hard-lessons-for-plebs-bugle-weekly-episode-103#t-4123|Bugle Weekly 103 @ 1:08:43]] — "the final between Odell and Rev Huddl, there was a million sats on that single poll." The same episode's cold open (t-17→29) describes the final as Rev Hodl versus Noa Gruman.