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Transcript: The Quantum Quarrel Has Commenced | Bugle Weekly Episode 90
0:05Richard Greaser Hey, folks. This is Buster Cherry with another update from North Korea. Over the weekend, the great leader Kim Jong un told the world that with the help of Dennis Porter, the nation would lead the world in quantum computing with the intention of claiming Satoshi's coins. He explicitly stated that there was nothing that individuals like Hunter Beast or Nick Carter could do to stop him from this. Journalists around the world have been trying to piece together information in regards to Dennis' well-being, but the North Korean OPSEC is without parallel. A picture of Dennis has reportedly been smuggled out showing that he looks very skinny and dehydrated. It would seem that with Dennis Porter in the hands of the North Koreans, quantum computing has become one of the biggest global threats to Bitcoin security. Folks, I hope you've been praying for the safe return of Dennis. I can't think of anything sadder than the world's greatest advocate for Bitcoin spending Christmas in Pyongyang. This is Buster Cherry signing off.
1:09Rod Palmer Alright, folks. Let me just say this because I've reached my slop limit. If you are spending your finite precious human lifetime panicking about quantum computers breaking Bitcoin, you're essentially one of those lunatics throwing tomato soup on the Mona Lisa and blocking traffic because climate change might cause the ocean levels to rise and wipe out real estate in South Florida by '27 before. Every week, there's a new asshole,
1:38Rod Palmer some LinkedIn cryptographer or some insufferable tech VC, and he's like, when quantum comes online, bitcoin's dead and the only way to solve this is to buy my half baked, vibe coated solution. Oh really? When? After fusion power? Before flying cars? Or right after the government finally launches a website that works? You know what else quantum computers break folks?
2:05Rod Palmer Everything. Quantum computers break banks, nukes, the internet, your medical records, your Venmo history, marriage, society, civilization
2:16Rod Palmer actually. But somehow, the coin is the only thing we're supposed to sit around doomjertying about like it's a Faberge egg bounced on a forklift. And it's the most luxurious form of pep slot imaginable. It lets people feel smart while doing nothing. No action required.
2:36Rod Palmer Just vibes. Just fear. Just well, I'd buy bitcoin but, quantum. Buddy, you e c the oils and scroll TikTok eight hours a day. You're not living a quantum resilient lifestyle. Okay?
2:52Rod Palmer If quantum computers get powerful enough to crack Bitcoin, the last thing you're worried about is your UTXOs. At that point, you're treating antibiotics for canned beans and asking a warlord if he accepts Tether on Tronk. So please
3:08Rod Palmer spare me your VC coded plevs swap bedtime stories. Bitcoin will upgrade when and if it becomes necessary. Humans will adapt. And until then, this whole panic is just another way of avoiding the real fear.
3:24Rod Palmer It may be the system you trusted is already broken and this one isn't.
3:31Richard Greaser If there is one thing that is effective at throwing the the plebs into a tizzy, it is presenting them with an invisible enemy. This has happened over and over again. COVID nineteen, climate change,
3:49Richard Greaser the war on terrorism, the war on drugs. There's this existential threat that's being presented to the to them. They can't see it. They can't define it. All they know is it's scary. And last year, it's been spam. Now it is
4:10Richard Greaser quantum. Quantum computing is the invisible enemy that has some plebs in a tizzy, and the plebs are getting mad at each other. I think the lesson to be learned from this and why it's not helpful to be a plub. If you're if you're a plub, you're you're
4:31Richard Greaser essentially an MPC where you just take stimulus in and you just react. You're like a pinball just bouncing around through life having no control. You're not the one controlling the bumpers, shooting you off, bouncing off the all the all the different bells and whistles in the pinball machine.
4:50Richard Greaser You're just being controlled along for the ride. The Pioneer, on the other hand, does not bounce around like a pinball. They they know who they are. They have a sense of direction, a sense of purpose, a sense of just understanding
5:11Richard Greaser the capacity for critical thinking, to take stimulus in, to think about it, to not let it just flip the world upside down. Yeah. We're we're going into Christmas and, you know, it's it's disappointing that the Plebs are losing their minds again. But, I mean, what can you expect? What can you do? I guess I guess you just have to enjoy it. You have to you have to enjoy watching the Plebs run around like chickens with their heads cut off and, get a kick out of it and laugh at them. I don't know what else you can do, but, yeah, what what do you think, Ron?
5:46Rod Palmer Well, the plebs are always panicking. That's just the nature of pleb. So, really, the the market demand or anxiety in the market demand for hysteria
6:01Rod Palmer is much higher than the supply. And there was a spam hysteria. Their the collapse were were freaking out. They thought the spam was gonna destroy Bitcoin. They thought Shinobi and Gloria were working in cahoots, with George Soros
6:18Rod Palmer and and other woke overlords, and they were trying to break Bitcoin to spam. They're trying to turn it into a decentralized Amazon Web service for storage of spam. And so they they devised this fork. And as soon as they devised this fork plan, a, you know, a wrench hits a wrench just comes right into the timeline
6:39Rod Palmer and and and sends everybody panicking again. It's it's like the the Tower Of Babel for panicking plebs. And then this new one is quantum. So the Plebs have to decide, like, it it they're worried that quantum computers are gonna come in and break Bitcoin, and Antichronom computers are gonna steal
7:02Rod Palmer all their SaaS that they did stacking so humbly through the past few years, the past few cycles. And it it's like one thing after the other. If if spam is gonna destroy Bitcoin long term, you you don't have to worry about quantum computers because Bitcoin's already dead.
7:20Rod Palmer But if they fix Bitcoin with the with their with their slot fork, well, then they they don't get to calm down. They they get if they defeat Bitcoin v 30, they stick to rest because the quantum threat exists in the future.
7:37Rod Palmer But the one theme here is that the Plebs don't they don't really understand spam. They don't really understand how spam affects Bitcoin or, like, what the what the problem of spam really means. This is a very high level abstract conversation. The same goes with quantum computers. Quantum computers are even more complicated than spam.
8:01Rod Palmer And so the they just keep ratcheting it up, the complexity, ratcheting up the fear, it is it's a never ending cycle, I people think somebody put us the other day that, like, quantum computers are like the final frontier of FUD. We got past all the other small time FUD, the mining FUD, the criminals FUD, the government's gonna ban at FUD, and then the kind of a final frontier now is quantum computers. Once we get past quantum computers,
8:32Rod Palmer the flight's gone, we defeated the five, but that's that is a mistake, because quantum computers, if they do end up being a useful technology, something that really develops and changes
8:47Rod Palmer industry and computing and technology as we know it, it's going to generate a whole new class of FUD that we can't even begin to imagine right now.
8:60Richard Greaser The FUD the FUD needs to evolve, and it will evolve.
9:05Rod Palmer Iron sharpens iron is, like, a is a common quote. We were seeing all the tough times, tough conditions, tough material. Like, that's what creates you know, pressure creates diamonds. Like, you need these tough challenges to really achieve
9:23Rod Palmer your potential. As Bitcoiners, we've we've stepped over so much of society. We've become so much smarter, so much more thermodynamically sound. We have we can think from first principles. We need we're going to need bigger, stronger FUD to continue to progress as individuals and to become smarter
9:43Rod Palmer and and and just better prepared to face the future. You know, we we talked about this a little bit before we started recording. People like Nick Carter, they talk about the potential that the Chinese
9:59Rod Palmer are building secret quantum computers, underneath Shanghai or somewhere somewhere underground for creating these secret quantum computers, and they're gonna use those quantum computers to steal Satoshi's coins. But I think that the bigger threat and this this becomes a a problem for podcasters. How do we prevent this threat is if the aliens find out about Bitcoin, the aliens are half quantum computers. If there's aliens flying around intergalactic space somewhere out there in the universe,
10:31Rod Palmer they've already got quantum computers. They have figured it out. And if they if our if our if our Barack if our Bitcoin podcast if forty hours per week of Bitcoin podcasts are are propagating into the universe, well, they will have radio antennas that will be able to receive it. And if the bit if the aliens are listening to Bitcoin podcasts and we orange build them, they're gonna warp drive straight to Earth and use their quantum computers to steal our Bitcoin. And if the and if the if the if the aliens have the Bitcoin and we don't, we cannot defeat the aliens. Bitcoin fixes this only if we control our own keys. If the aliens steal our keys, if the aliens become our custodians,
11:13Rod Palmer we absolutely will not be able to survive.
11:19Richard Greaser I think it's reasonable to think that the the Bitcoin FUD could be useful because many believe that humans are just a slave race to that this alien race called the Anunnakis who sent the humans here to mine gold for them. And one of the worst circumstances that could happen is if the Anunnaki
11:40Richard Greaser get orange pilled and they decide to stop taking the gold from humans and they decide to start taking the Bitcoin. And so, you know, people like to complain about the bad Bitcoin podcasters
11:56Richard Greaser out there like Bram Kramstein, you know, the people that are just putting out just garbage, pub slop. But the reality is is we while these individuals may confuse the plabs like the the Joe Nakamoto is just putting out just, like, garbage, slop, They're also
12:18Richard Greaser confusing the aliens who are listening to Bitcoin podcast, trying to figure out what's happening with humanity. And so many ways, I think it's important to have an appreciation for the for the slop podcasters out there who don't you know, who will put, you could alien
12:41Richard Greaser in in their sophistication and and and they're much further evolved than most humans. They go and they start listening to a slot podcast. They're just gonna write it off as, oh, yeah. Bitcoin's not that interesting. We're just gonna keep on taking the gold from the humans. And, I don't know. You you know, slop isn't all isn't all bad,
13:06Richard Greaser but it's just you you think one of the the big things that can set you ahead in life is just not being finding ways to insulate your brain from the opinions and the the anxiety of the plebs? Just because the plebs are anxious doesn't mean that you have to be as well.
13:27Rod Palmer Well, it's not just the plebs that are anxious. There's there's multiple ways to you can react to slop. There's multiple ways that you can react to fight. And we have a lot of friends in in the group chats. You know, the red team chat is one of our favorites, and we've talked about this before. They spent the better part of this last year reacting
13:53Rod Palmer to the plexolop, reacting to the Nazis. They they reviewed every poll request the Nazis have submitted. They've re reviewed every Bitcoin pro improvement proposal the Nazis have submitted. There's no narrative. There's no assertion that mechanic and these Nazis
14:15Rod Palmer can make that these guys will not immediately go work in the group chats, game planning, game theorizing how to respond to it. They feel like they have to respond to all the slop. They have to respond to all the thought. And this quantum computer hysteria is no different. Now they are you know, some of them are like, you know, Charlie Spears, our friend, Cheat Coiner, good guy.
14:41Rod Palmer He said today, like, he's so happy to be responding to the quantum fud instead of the filter fud. And that is the wrong lesson to take from this. It's like you don't it it if if the one lesson if you were nothing else from the Nazi hysteria, the the spam
15:00Rod Palmer wars is that you don't have to respond. You don't have to react to every single piece of slot that comes that is thrown at you. In fact, that is what they are dealing today. We talked about this with with Paul Sports, talked about I talked about this with Rob Wallace. The game has evolved it it it it seems clear to me anyway, that the Nazis are no longer trying to win, and are they're no longer trying to to fork and to to save
15:28Rod Palmer Bitcoin. What they are trying to do is get Core and the people who support Core to react to everything they say and do. And this is no different with with Nick Carter and some of these quantum computer pledge sloppers. They are there's no big Nick Carter is not gonna be able to protect the Bitcoin and fix it from quantum computers
15:52Rod Palmer this year, next year, the next year after that because the threats are not there there is no it's it's all theoretical. So right now, what he's doing is exploiting this this bug in the community
16:06Rod Palmer and he knows that they have to respond, he knows that they're going to respond. So he wants them to react to everything and he's gonna keep throwing stuff out there in a very pompous, like, arrogant way because that really just that really just it's the honeypot that sucks them in and makes them respond, it ruins their weekend.
16:27Richard Greaser Nick has some, very high expectations to live up to this year. Many analysts were looking at him predicting that he was gonna reverse his falling star trend and that this would be the year his star started to rise again. And, you know, Luke and mechanic have really presented
16:50Richard Greaser a road map for how to take over Podkoff. And Nick sees the opportunity. He wants to go to the Bitcoin pod or sorry, Bitcoin conferences and debate people on the main stage. He wants the plebs to be clapping for him.
17:07Richard Greaser He wants all of these opportunities that he's seen Luke and McKenna get, and, he sees his opportunity for 2026 to really hit that point where his, star is rising. And he sees
17:23Richard Greaser he sees these individuals and how easy it is to get them to get angry and start responding to the whatever narratives he propagates. He he knows he can just he he's been brainstorming. He's got chat CPT open. He's got 50 different narratives to just completely DDoS these autistic individuals that feel like it's necessary to debunk all the fun.
17:50Richard Greaser And we we've seen this in the, like, you look at the corporate me media and how they respond to conspiracy theorists. And we know we know the conspiracy theorists largely, like, Candace Owens and Alex Jones and, oh, what what's that guy? David Ike? Reptilian guy. The Reptilians.
18:17Richard Greaser You know, the the the media, like, they they sit there and they they try to debunk these guys over and over again. And the the problem with the with the corporate media is that, you know, they're what they're trying to promote and argue for is for the Epstein client list to retain power. And these conspiracy theorists are coming out with all of these, you know, crazy narratives, oftentimes,
18:45Richard Greaser you know, psy ops to be discounting actual real narratives or or or stories that are going on that people are trying to report on. They're trying to whip up the the plugs to tizzy, and,
19:00Richard Greaser the the reactionary narrative just takes them out of the, out of the fight of being interesting because just being a reactionary is is not interesting. It it you're not the one defining or influencing people's perspectives on the world. You're just responding to the ones that are reacting to it. And,
19:22Richard Greaser the, quote unquote independent media has been guilty of this for a very, very long time. You look at all these individuals that call themselves the independent media, like Luke Radowski and,
19:39Richard Greaser Tim Pool and the Daily Wire. I mean, I guess they're not really independent media. But you know you know what I'm talking about. All these guys in the quote, unquote independent media, they just sit there and they just comment and respond on whatever the bullshit narratives that the the corporate media sets up.
20:01Richard Greaser And so you have this this back and forth whirlwind of just reaction videos to each other, and nobody can really tell who are the ones actually driving
20:17Richard Greaser narratives. And, we're we're seeing this really take off and and happen to Bitcoin ecosystem where it's just people are like pinballs,
20:28Richard Greaser all bouncing around all over the place. And,
20:33Rod Palmer yeah. Right. There there there there's a whole there's a whole cottage in it's not a cottage industry. This is an industry at scale at this point, thanks to a couple of things. A, Elon Musk took over
20:49Rod Palmer Twitter, and he restored free speech. And people were like, now Twitter's great. Now I can say that every time somebody dies for any reason, even a plane crash, you know, you can speculate now without being in trouble that was was this person vaccinated or not? Did they die from getting the jab? And that was awesome for the first few months. You could say, retard again. You could say slurs. Some of the slurs will get you shadow banned or blocked, but for the most part,
21:20Rod Palmer you can say whatever you want. But there's that's a double edged sword because then Elon monetized tweets, so and he tweaked the algorithm to basically promote and boost
21:34Rod Palmer the most shocking, outrageous, highly reacted to content, and people started to realize they could make money from getting a lot of engagements, getting a lot of reactions. And then he made likes
21:51Rod Palmer private. So now you don't now you can't look at a tweet and say who's liking this? Is it people I know? Is it people in my network? Are they even real accounts? We don't know, we have no idea. So, you know, we saw this during the Axie Madness. Anybody can go out and purchase these bot farms to go out and like, retweet, engage with posts. And now we have no idea if, people are using bots or if it's organic. You can kinda there's different ways you can you can kinda tell, but the plebs aren't smart enough to do that. And plebs are plebs do not verify
22:27Rod Palmer anything. They trust. Plebs are trusters. And, you know, Elon certainly didn't get rid of the bots, so we know the bots are still on there. It means they're still liking tweets. So we have this this this whole concoction that is, like, just ripe for this type of thing. And then now now if you it it you go on Twitter for five minutes and you scroll through and you see people saying, Charlie Kirk
22:57Rod Palmer was racist. He deserved to be shot, and it is why his kids deserve not to get any Christmas presents this year. And people were like, that is the most like, you can disagree with Charlie. You didn't have to listen to his podcast. You didn't have to agree with everything he said. But he didn't deserve to get one shotted in front of his family. And it it it to be murdered. And then everybody's making fun of it, calling him making fun of his big ugly gums. He's the big old teething, ugly gums, and he looked ugly. His wife's evil. He deserved to be shy. This is a racist podcast or yada yada. And people are just absolutely reacting.
23:35Rod Palmer They see that and they react. They get angry, they scream, some people get blocked, and you see that every day. You see, oh, these terrorists in Australia. Well, the Chiefs are bad. They deserve to get shot. People react to it. They people make fun of the DEIs, though. Anything that can just the most
23:56Rod Palmer outrageous statements just to get you to react. And it's all people that's all it's it is that is how people are making money. And it's not just on podcast Twitter. It's not just on sports Twitter. It's not just on, you know, pop like, cop creep, the most normie one of the most normie accounts. They just posted a picture of, the girl that sings pink pony club, a really popular song, Lester. She's not that attractive. She's a she's an okay girl. It's fine. Like, it's not fun. You don't have to be the hottest girl in the world, but they posted a picture of her, and they said, here she is looking beautiful in this new selfie. And everybody had to react to say, that girl's not hot. What are you fucking kidding me that she's not beautiful? That the whole point of that post was to post a
24:40Rod Palmer mid looking girl, call her beautiful, so you so so pledge would get angry and say that she was not beautiful. This is what Justin Bechler is doing. This is what what Motorist is doing. This is what mechanic and Luke are doing. They are posting the most outrageous bullshit and Nick Carter. Because if you react, they get engagement, they get more followers, they get more clout, they get more money.
25:09Rod Palmer So every time you react, no matter how good your reaction is, no matter how smart you think you are, at the end of the day, you're ultimately contributing to your enemy getting more money. And this is a dangerous cycle.
25:26Richard Greaser Well, and you're you're also not really putting anything original into the world. That's that's the other thing that is dangerous about this cycle. When when individuals stand there and they are
25:42Richard Greaser because I I think that the thing is instead of just watching and consuming the news, like, trying to to be the news, be be newsworthy is is what individuals with self respect do. I mean, it's just you they're and it's not even just for the sake of doing it. Not not being the one like, oh, I'm gonna just go out and draw drum up the most outrageous attention
26:08Richard Greaser getting nonsense so that people look at me. It's like, actually, do something impressive. Like, put your time into something that you really care about that not not for the purpose of being seen or getting an attention doing it, but for the purpose of doing something that you care about. And I think that's that's, you know, what we're seeing continuously is individuals are not doing the things that they care about.
26:34Richard Greaser Or or maybe maybe what they care about, you know, ultimately and, like, their incentives is they they they're playing the same game. Right? Where they just want the clout. They want the attention. They wanna, you know, funnel more people into giving them more money off of social media. And,
26:52Rod Palmer you know, their their responses. Yeah. It's it's the incentives. This is what the incentives are. At the end of the day, most people, especially plebs, they aren't creating anything original. They're not putting anything original. The the the purpose of a pleb Pleb's purpose is not to create original content ideas, it's to
27:17Rod Palmer amplify and boost and and spread slop. And that's he I wanna say he's not fine. It's not necessarily a good thing. It's just that's just the way it is. That's the way the world works. Most people, the majority are not creating new novel interesting things because if everybody was creating new and novel interesting things, there would be really no new novel interesting things. But you're right. It's what are you doing with your time?
27:44Rod Palmer Maybe not everybody's gonna be an influencer, a podcaster, or or an artist, but it could be a father. You can be a father to your little baby plebs. You can raise your family. You can go to work. There There's a million things you could be doing that are more productive than arguing with Nazis, corniness or quantum computer experts, quote unquote, on on Twitter.
28:08Rod Palmer It's there's just a million other things. The world needs factory workers. The world needs people to mine gold. The world needs people to run farms, and to and to to grow our food. But everybody's trying to make money
28:26Rod Palmer in the slop in the slop game. It's a sloppy slop world on the Twitter timeline. And, you know, the rat race has been replaced with the slop race. Who can who can create the the the sloppiest meme with Chachi d t and get it out there first? Who can post a picture of Samson now and and and say that he's some other Asian person in a meme? Who can do the who can get to all that first? And it was a race this last week. It was like,
28:54Rod Palmer there's how many billion Chinese Asian people in the world, and every single one of them has been confused with Samsung now, and it only took three days. You have to have, like you have to be, like, one of those the hedge funds, like Citadel, they've got these super computers using fucking microwave antennas out on these little tiny islands, so they can have the closest, fastest, least latent signal flanking directly at at Coinbase and these other exchanges so that they can front run the trades of Plebs and other traders
29:30Rod Palmer like ChainStreet to get an advantage. You basically need something like that. With Twitter, if you're gonna get out the quickest slot, you're gonna front run the slot trade, you're probably not gonna do that. It's probable we we've already made fun of people like Green Candle who quit his job, and he spent $30,000 on a Bloomberg terminal so he could post a flap slot.
29:51Rod Palmer That is you know, if that's what you want to do, who am I to tell you not to do it? But the point is you're not gonna be better at this than engagement firm corporations
30:05Rod Palmer in Southern India, in Malaysia, in Bangladesh. These guys, you you're never gonna you're never gonna beat Gunther Eagleman for a bullish Trump tweet. Like, move on to something that suits your values, suits your skills.
30:24Rod Palmer Front run front run, your wife's boyfriend, to be a better father to your son, to your daughter.
30:32Richard Greaser Very well said. But, yeah, there's more fun. I guess I guess it's kind of entertaining. I I I had to catch up before,
30:47Richard Greaser this episode on on what the FUD was because I, you know, I saw people complaining about quantum FUD, but I just wasn't really, you know, familiar with it. I have been hyper dialed into with shooting the music video over the past week. That was fun. But, there was, another Epstein file drop this week. That was,
31:16Richard Greaser I guess, some pretty big news. I don't really know how it's news. I I guess they redacted all of Trump's photos from the files.
31:27Rod Palmer Yeah. There was a few there's well, the Epstein file dump, at least this first one, kind of the joke about it has already emerged is that Jeffrey Epstein appeared in some of the some of the photos of the Bill Clinton
31:46Rod Palmer files released, because Bill Clinton was apparently hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein every weekend, you know, and talk about how Donald Trump isn't a very good president, only does spend all his time golfing. Joe Biden was either, you know, sleeping or on vacation, on the beach or something in Delaware. Well, Bill Clinton was apparently with on Epstein Island every day instead of instead of being president. And after he he got out of office, you know, he he I listen. And Hillary Clinton is probably an an ordinary wife, probably not great to hang out with her every day. But Bill Clinton's his getaway was was hanging out with Epstein. He was in a tons and tons of pictures, and there's a lot of hot tub pictures. A lot of pictures with Bill Clinton pretty much naked in a hot tub, and there's a lot of redacted
32:35Rod Palmer photos of people who looked like they might be underwater, giving Bill Clinton, you know, polishing his bid ax for him or doing something, some activity.
32:47Rod Palmer It was quite sexual, and a lot of redacted, people in those photos with with former president. And it is believed to be the most of those people were Donald Trump himself. If you did if you don't know what I'm referring to, the rumor was came out from Epstein's brother a few weeks ago that Donald Trump gave Jeffrey Epstein a blow job.
33:13Rod Palmer And so listen, like, there's a lot of people out there who like to glaze their heroes. Matthew Crowder reportedly gives grades to students at Bitcoin University who glazen. The plebs love glazing sailor on Twitter every day, and, apparently,
33:30Rod Palmer Donald Trump love to glaze Jeffrey Epstein. And so the the photos and the evidence of of Donald Trump glazing Jeffrey Epstein were all redacted. But there was, you know, there was a lot of celebrities in the Epstein files. I think he reported that Craig Wright actually sued the Department of Justice for redacting him,
33:53Rod Palmer allegedly from the Epstein files. It's the company you keep is is is very important, and the company that Jeffrey Epstein kept
34:06Rod Palmer was a very powerful a very elite company, and we're and this finally coming out.
34:12Richard Greaser Well, I think this has been known for a long time. I get I guess there's nothing really shocking or surprising, and I don't think there's any belief that we're getting closer to the truth. But, yeah, I mean, I I think
34:27Richard Greaser one of the learning lessons from it is just, like, the dangers of glazing individuals in general because you might find out that they, were glazing somebody's bid ax in a hot tub later on. And so you just wanna you wanna be careful. Like, I know, the plaids love to glaze sailor.
34:52Richard Greaser This is just one of the issues. Like, the the heroes of the Plaives tend to be individuals that probably aren't deserving of the hero worship. And does that mean that there's no heroes in the world? No.
35:08Richard Greaser It just means the clubs are really dumb and aren't good at deciphering who is actually an effective individual doing heroic things. But, yeah, it's, I I don't know. I mean, we has there been any interesting
35:27Richard Greaser revelations from this? I mean, it just seems like we're gonna have to the the the Epstein information or Epstein list or files or whatever you wanna call it
35:42Richard Greaser is appearing like it's turning into a game of political football, which whichever administration is in office, they're gonna release selectively information about their opponent that makes them look bad. Is that kinda
35:57Rod Palmer Yeah. Of course. I mean, that's what it it's it's very opportunistic. You know, it's impossible you know, the Democrats are, like, the opposition party, so they are really pushing the narrative, you know, that Donald Trump, you know, delegitimize whatever.
36:14Rod Palmer Donald Trump if if you think that Donald Trump has been doing a really good job, he's a very trustworthy and high integrity individual, and that the Jeffrey Epstein files released last week, we're gonna be finally the thing that they I mean, they've been they've been saying that Donald Trump's
36:33Rod Palmer finally going down when this new news comes out about whatever he did. He he's said, somebody was fat, or he he was horny and talked about grabbing girls on their pussy, or Donald Trump's a Nazi, or he said something nice about Adolf Hitler into his generals one time, and he's it's it's gonna finally be the end of him. If you thought that that Donald Trump being in the Epstein files was gonna be the end of Donald Trump, well, I mean,
37:03Rod Palmer you're gonna have a hard for a turning ad because there's gonna be a lot more surprises and twists and turns. But the thing of it is everybody, Democrat, Republican, aristocrat from Europe, rock and roll stars, artists,
37:19Rod Palmer scientists, the king of pop, Diana Ross, Walter Cronkite, credentialed journalist, they've all they've all taken selfies, Jeffrey Epstein. The only person who hasn't taken a selfie with Jeffrey Epstein is Dennis Porter.
37:37Rod Palmer So note that for no particular reason, but it it we said this before. If you if it it's almost 2026. If you didn't realize that the world was controlled and all the power was concentrated
37:53Rod Palmer around people who, at best were apathetic towards the company they kept, they didn't really care if somebody was an abusive, you know, pedophile.
38:05Rod Palmer And at the very worst, collaborating with those pedophiles. If that surprises you, I mean, where have you been living under a rock? You've been you've definitely not been listening to podcasts. So
38:19Rod Palmer I don't know. I think it's we're kind of like in this post. It seems like everybody is reacting to you and is shocked by the behavior of their fellow plebs or their fellow people in the same class and station as life as them. They're no we're no longer shocked or horrified by what the people in tower do.
38:44Rod Palmer So I think the only way the only way people would be shocked or something would come out of this Epstein files thing is if we found out that podcasters and plebs were hanging out on Epstein Island. And we would have to be we would be very disappointed in podcasters and plaids who went there. But presidents, anchors,
39:04Rod Palmer the Rothschilds, kinda, it would be more surprised if we didn't see them there.
39:11Richard Greaser Well, I think there's there's two trajectories the world is on right now. One trajectory is
39:22Richard Greaser to the point where this stuff becomes so normalized. There's no consequences whatsoever. The plugs just embrace it. They're like, we just we want our Netflix more than we want any semblance of of sanity or morality in our society. And what ends up happening is, like, all these cameras at the the Epstein
39:48Richard Greaser places type places in the future on the island or, you know, in any of his mansions that are capturing, it turns into a live live stream kinda like, Sam Hyde's fish tank. And so you get to see all your politicians doing very inappropriate things, live stream and, you know, maybe even tip them directly. Or,
40:12Richard Greaser you know, there's actively consequences and some semblance of insanity and morality comes back in the society, which at this point, I'm I'm pretty pessimistic on on the larger scale because, you know, despite all of these revelations, people continue to, vote and do things like that. And and they just I don't know what it is, the the cognitive dissonance
40:37Richard Greaser going on. They're like, oh, you know, I guess I don't like pedophilia, but, like, I'm still gonna vote for the pedophile, that I know is a pedophile. But, you know, may maybe the third way is is there's, like, some, like, fake accountability,
40:55Richard Greaser kinda like prince Andrew. He's no longer a prince anymore, and he retires to a nice mansion somewhere and isn't in the spotlight. He he's kind of an embarrassment, so he has to hang low, while he continues to do all the bullshit that he was into. And,
41:13Richard Greaser you know, maybe just, like, twenty years, there there seems like there's some progress or people believe that there is, and then we just find out that all the Bitcoin podcasters that everybody liked were also, you know, going to the Diddy parties and Epstein Island. And it's just like a repeat. And we're in this cycle again and again of,
41:35Richard Greaser these institutions kinda collapsing. I don't know. I mean, it it is interesting to think about I I've been surprised about the momentum that in in the faith in the institutions that that has remained. It's it it really is shocking to me. And
41:55Richard Greaser the people value Netflix and sacrificing their children to Moloch more than just any semblance of sanity or justice in society. But I don't know. May am I a fool for being shocked by it? Or is it, the proper thing to be shocked by it? To to have expectations for your
42:15Richard Greaser peers to to have at least some semblance of a a moral, sense of right or wrong and be willing to stand by it.
42:27Rod Palmer Yeah. I mean, we're we're getting to this point in authoritarian, and the institutions are crumbling left and right. I mean, every time the spotlight shines on a different institution, whether at a a national or local scale, they crumble
42:44Rod Palmer under the weight of the pups or, you know, they they they melt. They melt under the lights like like like like the slap that they are. And you a year ago, almost to the day, the fires were raging in Los Angeles. The Palisades were burning down. Anders lost all of his beautiful scarves in the fires, and what did we see? The spotlight was on the Los Angeles, you know, the California government in general. Right? They they they didn't refill
43:14Rod Palmer the fire hydrants of water. The DEI fire department didn't know what to do. The the mayor, completely clueless, was was off at some Kwanzaa party in Africa instead of actually being in Los Angeles to help combat these fires. They didn't fill the reservoirs,
43:34Rod Palmer up in the mountains because the it it might hurt some some retarded salmon or whatever is, like, whatever the excuse was. Just an absolute shit show unprepared for the
43:47Rod Palmer chaos of the fourth turning and it, you know, it was an isolated incident since then, you know, a year later, we just had this shooting in, at the Ivy League School Brown in Providence, Rhode Island. 800 cameras
44:04Rod Palmer on the campus. Most of them were turned off because the president of university turned off cameras so we would like, basically to protect the illegal aliens, the illegal immigrants who were sleeping on campus protesting for Palestine on campus. They didn't they they turned off the cameras so there wouldn't be evidence of this. Like, somebody walked in to the university, shot multiple people, walked away. There was no camera footage. There was no security footage. The police didn't think then this is a true. They didn't they did not interview anybody who was a eyewitness
44:36Rod Palmer in this classroom in the study session. And eyewitness to this murder. They didn't interview any of them. They didn't even take their names. They had the e the university had to email the entire student body to ask, if you were there when you saw that person get shot the other day, can you please come forward? The police would find would like to interview you. They had no idea what they were doing. Totally unprepared. And then now they think maybe that shooter went to MIT and killed a nuclear fusion scientist a day or two later because they couldn't catch him. And then they finally caught they finally found a dead person in a storage unit, on Thursday. We'll never know if that was really the shooter. They can never talk to them, but that's gonna be the case closed. And it's just institution after institution. The the the police officers in Australia, the women, they made all their they made all their police officers girls.
45:26Rod Palmer And as soon as the the there was a mass shooting, what did they do? The girls started crying. They hid behind trees and cars, and they waited until the plebs subdued the shooters. And then what did the female cops do?
45:41Rod Palmer One of them shot one of the heroes who disarmed one of the mass shooters. We knew the fourth turning was coming, but to show up to the fourth, it's it's like Corey Corey Clipsch then showed up to pay for Bitcoin summer, something he'd been working towards his whole life. And he showed up with the meme leveraged
46:02Rod Palmer Bitcoin equities, and then fell flat on his face. Sequans was one of the first companies to sell all their Bitcoin and their treasured company. And these institutions are showing up similarly unprepared, similarly uninspired, and similarly unready
46:18Rod Palmer for the first journey. And it's some institutions will make it, some will be fine, some are so powerful that they single turning is not gonna toss them, but these others, if they're not completely, mowed to the ground, they will be they will be completely reshaken and restructured, and it'll
46:40Rod Palmer be a welcome relief, I think.
46:43Richard Greaser I'm surprised people are so unprepared. What do you think? They're just gonna rest on their laurels this whole time?
46:51Rod Palmer I think so.
46:53Richard Greaser I think I heard Owen Benjamin talking about this, this week of right? I can't remember who it was, but I somebody was talking about how these institutions in the in the cathedral, the these individuals that are sitting in the power seats, like, they're really lazy. And the reason why they're lazy is because they want something for nothing.
47:15Richard Greaser Like, they think just because of their positions of authority, they don't have to work for it. They can just take and take and take and take off the labor of the plums backs, which
47:30Richard Greaser I think gives people an opportunity. We think we're gonna see Peter McCormick's, pop up left and right to say, you know, there's all these school or all these shooters that run around. Police can't catch him. We have to create our own militia groups
47:48Richard Greaser to protect the plabs in our community. Or, like, what what's is this Rothbardian private policing future gonna happen? The the
47:59Richard Greaser the Bitcoin podcasters become the tip of the spear as far as experimentation with how dealing with the, inabilities of the pedophilic ruling class to, you know, follow through on their side of the, perceived social contract,
48:20Richard Greaser what what what happens, or does everything just fall apart?
48:24Rod Palmer No. This is where heroes come in. Heroes have to come in and build the new institutions. And I I talked about this with Mars. I've talked about this with Rob Wallace. I own idiot. It's very I'm not qualified to predict how this all unroll
48:41Rod Palmer unfolds, but I will tell you this. Group chats will be at the forefront of the institutions that are built and and and lead this country,
48:55Rod Palmer lead the world in the next first turning it's gonna be group chats group chats are gonna be fundamental, critical to those and group chats
49:07Rod Palmer kind of think of them as like a replacement for the NAACP, the the ACLU, these organizations,
49:17Rod Palmer these nonprofits, these immunities, centered around ideas, centered around ideology. It's gonna be replaced with group chats, and it's good. They're gonna be much quicker, much faster to respond, much more flexible, adaptive.
49:33Rod Palmer You're gonna have group chats that incorporate the use of, being able to call 911. You're gonna be able to hit up the group chat, put out, you know, some kind of alert,
49:46Rod Palmer and, you know, maybe the meme in some communities, it'll be local police department. In some communities, it will be meme gangs. In some communities, it will be warlords, but somebody will come to enforce order and law and protect property, protect podcasters.
50:06Rod Palmer But it will be transparent. Everybody will be able to see in real time the transcripts if you're a part of the group chat. And I think that that way of that group chat architecture, that way of thinking about things will be, you know, you think about it. People about Bitcoin.
50:28Rod Palmer Bitcoin is transparent, it is an open ledger, people hate that because they it makes it it means you have to take personal responsibility and
50:40Rod Palmer make deliberate conscious, thoughtful choices about the way you spend Bitcoin, the way you manage your addresses, if you want better privacy. But an open ledger is transparency so that the government, the feds are not able
50:59Rod Palmer to quite as easily, you know, local governments, they their financial and fiscal responsibilities will be out or and and actions will be in the open for people with nodes to audit. And it's
51:14Rod Palmer open communication, transparent communication, that is gonna be kind of the the future. It will not be Rothbardian, it will not be very libertarian. The libertarians are definitely not gonna have much say in the fourth turning, or definitely the first turning.
51:33Rod Palmer The libertarians are not gone forever, but they're just they've never been less relevant.
51:40Richard Greaser Absolutely. Well, I look forward to talking about this topic more. I've I've been doing a a series on heroes for our paid subscribers that you can go check out if you want to. But, yeah, you got anything before we transition into found boost?
52:02Rod Palmer The only thing is that, the samurai devs, Keon Rodriguez, is headed to headed to prison to serve his five year prison sentence. I'm not sure if he's there by the time you will listen to this. I think he's going Monday,
52:21Rod Palmer unless Donald Trump pardons him. So, you know, people will free samurai. Listen, begging the begging the politicians just to to pardon to pardon you for laundering money for the CIA, which should be legal in a democracy.
52:39Rod Palmer It's not a good look. Nobody likes to think about we have to beg the politicians, but, that's kinda where where he's at right now. He's been he's asking Donald Trump. The plebs are begging Donald Trump to pardon him. Donald Trump pardoned jelly roll instead last week. Doesn't seem like he's going to prioritize the samurai devs,
53:01Rod Palmer with this part in cycle. So just keep that in mind. Just keep in mind that people Bitcoin is already one or whatever you wanna say. We have the first Bitcoin president. But Bitcoin developers, open source developers, they're still going to prison. They are still being prosecute persecuted by the state.
53:21Rod Palmer And enjoy your Christmas. Spend time with your family, stop reacting to the slop, but at the same time remember, it's it's still it's still risky out there to do things,
53:39Rod Palmer protect people's privacy, to do things that that make the state's job of, enforcing and and and demoralizing and and maintaining control. If you make their job harder, they're still gonna come after you. And the samurai does a good example of this.
53:57Richard Greaser Interesting. Yeah. I mean, this is the framing that they they had by, pardoning Ross is, you know, Donald Trump's like, maybe I'll if you beg me hard enough and don't call me a a pedophile or point out my relationships with Epstein, maybe I'll, pardon the people that my,
54:18Richard Greaser my people are prosecuting for silly reasons, but, yeah, I don't know. It it's a bummer to watch it'll play out. But, yeah, first boost from Sasha Otter, 10,000 says, listen to this episode with my mom in the car. She's a fan now too. Merry Christmas. Looking forward to the Sunset Circuit Bugle Bitcoin Law Review. For anyone listening, please send us your hardest legal questions.
54:45Richard Greaser So Sasha's having us on here pretty soon to discuss some we're gonna do some legal commentary, I guess, with her on her new podcast, The Sunshine
54:58Richard Greaser Circuit.
55:00Rod Palmer Probably looking forward to it. Next boost, Flebianon, 2,112 sats. It's not the measure of the ledger. It's the cash of the hash.
55:14Rod Palmer It's a clever one. Thank you, Flebianon.
55:18Richard Greaser Appreciate it. Boba 2,112 says, old man wisdom. Small boobs with pointing protruding nipples are greater than large boobs. In three words, gravity is real. I've done my weekly deed for old school manhood. Thank you, and good night. I'm Thank you. I'm not an old man. I'd I'd agree with that. That's probably some pretty sound advice.
55:45Rod Palmer Thank you, Bubba. Next boost, 808 Satz. Happy holidays, Bugle Nation, hashtag livealoha from Nakaz eighteen. Happy holidays. Merry Christmas. Live Aloha to you, Nakaz eighteen.
56:02Richard Greaser James Satoshi, 521 says, thank you for your time. No. Thank you.
56:09Rod Palmer User 63906584. 500 sacks. Christmas is my son's favorite time of year because he can use the cold Santa gives him to keep his bedroom warm. Is that Steve Barber?
56:25Richard Greaser Maybe. Probably an upstream data employee. Yeah. I I guess in some circumstances, Kohl's actually pretty decent Christmas gift. Like, those Africans that are burning their poop to stay warm, they probably appreciate coal for Christmas.
56:45Richard Greaser Used to read a lot. 500 sats says signal tits. Check mark.
56:52Rod Palmer Pies. He's back. 121 saps. Salute emoji. Looks like a cloud of dust, steak, mushroom, flexing emoji.
57:08Richard Greaser Oh, yeah. Pause. Welcome back. Nostra Gang, 102 sets says, oh, yeah. Mars. Oh, yeah. Do we feature Mars? What? I don't understand that.
57:20Rod Palmer I think I I think I mentioned him. A 100 staffs from Pyro Hawk. Looking forward to the Christmas album. Maybe you can use this as inspiration for your Club Slop Blues song. The Blues with Weary went to a YouTube. Thanks for the podcast, and Merry Christmas. What's that? The Blues song Christmas song is gonna be on the album. It's different inspiration, but, I think you're gonna like it.
57:44Richard Greaser Yeah. This I I wanna watch this. It was a VeggieTales song. Thank you, Pirate Hawk. Hell, yeah. That's it for the boost, folks. Folks, I hope you have a wonderful Christmas with your family. We're gonna be working on doing a Christmas special for you guys
58:05Richard Greaser as just a special episode. And, make sure your kids have fun. Make sure not to get too grumpy with anybody. Smoke a lot of cigarettes. Yeah. I don't
58:22Richard Greaser know. Hope you have a great Christmas. You got you got anything wrapping this up, bro?
58:27Rod Palmer Please not be done.
58:30Rod Palmer I have the place, Lord, Blues for Christmas. Without
58:42Rod Palmer you, you. I'll be so sad running out of podcast in the queue.
59:05Rod Palmer People will be marrying cheer, but I'll be all alone here. Won't be the same alone with
59:20Rod Palmer Lebslop this year. Have the plexus lar blues alone as I sit in shame.
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