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2:48Richard Greaser Welcome to the Bugle Weekly. This is your co host, Richard Grieser, with Rod Palmer joining me, from the Bugle podcast studio. We got Kaylee producing the show. This is gonna be, you know, a very big episode. We had some very important

3:09Richard Greaser and exciting news stories that happened this week. Natalie Burnell got married to Sam Callahan. HBO put out their documentary, that a lot of people have been arguing about. They they named Satoshi. That might be, that might create a geopolitical

3:30Richard Greaser conflict. And, of course, you know, we're just gonna continue to cover hyper Bitcoinization and the fact that Bitcoin has already won, pointing to examples of where that's happening. But,

3:43Richard Greaser yeah, how are you doing today, Rob? What's going on?

3:47Rod Palmer Hi. It's, dude, super glad to be here. And, I mean, you said it is not to be bullish right now. We're almost to the middle of October. And just last week, not only did we learn who Satoshi was, MicroStrategy

4:03Rod Palmer and all time, MicroStrategy is going through the roof, and I don't know what there were some people because a short squeeze, something, the hedge fund that was shorting Michael Sailor and feeding his, his bad. They think that, David Louwout. Other people fitting for the market is sniffing out the fact that Bitcoin has already won.

4:23Rod Palmer Volantron, is launching a shit coin on Tuesday. You mentioned that the orange wedding, which was the, you know, the social event of the year. Yeah. It was yeah. Unfortunately, Pacific Bitcoin was supposed to happen next week. This was supposed to be, like, the kickoff event, the Pacific Bitcoin. At first, we lost Pacific Bitcoin, but we didn't lose the orange wedding. Michael Sailor was there. It was a real who's who of Bitcoin podcasting

4:51Rod Palmer at that wedding, and we're excited to see more about that. But, yeah, the mood is high and it is time it's time to lock in. Yeah.

4:59Richard Greaser I know a lot of people are really upset with Tether for having taken Pacific Bitcoin from us. Yeah. Yeah. There were a lot of people that were really excited. But, yeah, for anybody that you know, your listeners might not understand the importance of this moment of Sam and Natalie, getting married in the, you know, the way that they did,

5:24Richard Greaser at this kind of point in Bitcoin history. But, you know, for for people that are in the in the know, that are in the industry, that listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast week, you know, and go to Bitcoin meetups and, you know, try an orange pill, you know, everybody that they talk to. Mhmm. This is kinda like the equivalent of, like, a royal wedding.

5:48Rod Palmer Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. This is, Bitcoin's royal wedding. This is, like, the the the celebrities, the elite, the aristocracy of Dave White was there. Yeah.

6:04Richard Greaser Yeah. And it's exciting. They they recorded the wedding. They, they put it out on podcasting platforms. This is this is actually, I think, the first notable case of a wedding being turned into a podcast. And being

6:23Rod Palmer I love it. I love the idea. So I was told that, at the wedding reception, the in all the front tables, that was the whale pass sections to the whales, all the the podcasters

6:38Rod Palmer were at the front. My dad at table, They were the first, you know, to get to dancing, go to the buffet. There was, there was at one point, you know, part of the wedding ceremony itself,

6:51Rod Palmer in lieu of lighting candles, which is, you know, the kind of the traditional Christian western Mitchell had a wedding. They consolidated their UTXOs into one giant UTXO. It's like a symbol on chain symbol of their unity. And and and put it into two of two multisig wallet. It was

7:12Rod Palmer there's all kinds of stuff like that. I mean, you had James Ladysh was there. Lyn Alden. Lyn Alden was actually showing her her, her ear that's usually hidden. In the pictures I saw, you had, Michael Sailor was there. I I already mentioned that. His handler, Eric Weiss, was there. It was you know, the picture's there. Tim is beautiful, but he's Winston. I'm I'm I'm just feeling like FOMO. I'll tell you that. The panel was little old in about the the history of money in lieu of the best man speech. I mean, wow.

7:48Rod Palmer I don't I mean, so I was looking at the pictures, and it looked like the ideal ratio that you could imagine in your mind. If you're getting married, do you want about 25, 30 Bitcoin podcasters for every

8:02Rod Palmer family member that doesn't listen to you when you try to orange know them? It is that you want the you want the people closest to you. And that's what it looked like the ratio was there. So, you know, my question was at comedy orange cake, how many people did they orange pill just with the wedding itself. They had a huge Bitcoin cake. But I'm sure anybody who was there was a no coiner. It's probably not anymore. By the end of the of the reception,

8:30Rod Palmer it was a room full of only Bitcoiners. I mean, how much do you think the bartender got tipped in Bitcoin? So I'm like, god. I mean, especially with the open bar, you will start getting drunk. Because I know when I'm like, if you're trying to sell me something, then you're using USDT. I'm like, $8. That's kind of a expensive cheeseburger for what it is. But if you, you know, if you show me a t shirt for 50000¢, I'm like, that sounds like a deal to me. I think, I got 50,000 sets. Here you go. Well,

8:59Richard Greaser yeah. I mean, I like, a lot of these weddings, they they tend to onboard the wait staff to using some sort of custodial Lightning wallet, right, for ease of use. Because, like, if you've ever

9:16Richard Greaser attempted to, you know, set somebody up kind of in a more sovereign manner using the Lightning Network, It's very common for, you know, you to be trying to do a demo and orange pill somebody and then for the payment to fail. Right? I know. I know. But the the type of crowd that we're talking about that was at this wedding, you know, they're not they're not dicking around with little custodial Lightning payments. You know, they're they're sending,

9:45Richard Greaser you know, large on train transactions.

9:48Rod Palmer I think these people are so, I mean, they were, you know, actively managing their lightning liquidity during the the ceremony. You know what I mean? That's why they they didn't even ask people to put their phones away. Yeah.

10:03Richard Greaser Like, you know, the the people that went to, like, Epstein parties or, p d d parties, you know, the the level of wealth that you're dealing with

10:14Rod Palmer is just like Max Heizer. Somebody like Max Heizer. Yeah. He has that kind of wealth. That's what I mean.

10:20Richard Greaser Yeah. Like, you think, you know, you go to a party, like, money is just like a joke to these people. They have so much. But, like, you go to a Natalie Burnell wedding, and these people have so much Bitcoin, like, they're they're rolling in intergenerational

10:40Richard Greaser wealth.

10:41Rod Palmer Right. Exactly. That's a good point. So I remember when I was a kid, before, you know, inflation from since the nineties really took hold when you would see a wrap of large, it's a rich person just to kind of throwing a $100 bills around like it was nothing. And it is he was just hiding the grass, but it's like, you might see somebody, at the orange wedding and they might just be flipping a literal whole coin,

11:05Rod Palmer you know, just for fun. You know, heads or tails. You're the whole coin, here's your tit. Thanks for the nickel of ultra. Yeah.

11:12Richard Greaser I got I got hundreds more of these. Yeah. I mean, this is a this is a pretty monumental moment. These two things happening, we're about to get a Bitcoiner elected into being in charge of the military industrial complex.

11:30Rod Palmer Yeah. I mean, I I just can't one more thought on that. Orange is I just I can't think about a better way to incentivize some of your family extended family and friends to become Orangeville is to have, like, the coolest Bitcoin podcast slash conference of a wedding that's, like, the talk of the timeline, and you didn't get invited even though you're like you know, you grew up together. You were best friends until middle school. If you were if you would have listened to it and and when they tried to orange peel you

12:02Rod Palmer and you were a Bitcoiner, you would have been invited. So it's like, I'm not gonna miss the next one. I'm not missing the next Bitcoin conference wedding. Yeah. I'm surprised that,

12:12Richard Greaser one, that the that Donald Trump didn't get invited to the wedding.

12:18Rod Palmer Yeah. That is I hope he doesn't feel slighted. Yeah. I hope he doesn't feel slighted.

12:24Richard Greaser I mean, it might have been, you know, because do you think it's okay if I talk about having doubts about Donald Trump being a Bitcoiner? Is that I know PodConf won't appreciate that type of talk, but Well, I think it's safe to do that. I think it it's a very

12:42Rod Palmer it's a very real concern because in my opinion, I'm just speculating. I have no evidence. I think this wedding was really just a probably

12:53Rod Palmer exemplified the values of Bitcoin, not crypto. And Donald Trump is a Bitcoin and crypto type of person.

13:04Richard Greaser Yeah. It's, I know Plutator's been doing some really great work covering this topic and and documenting all the cases of shit coining that the former president has been involved with. And it just, you know, it kinda makes me feel bearish, on America because, you know, America historically, the reason why it's been put so powerful is because it we as a nation have not shitcoin. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think

13:33Rod Palmer that people do you think that if people are giving Donald Trump a pass, they wouldn't give up if otherwise because of his promise to help them pay their taxes?

13:48Richard Greaser I could be part of it. It it I mean, I think the problem here is so many people are just so tied to NGU and tied to, you know, the pillars of what

14:06Richard Greaser upon which PodCon stands, that they're willing to compromise any sort of morals that they have. Right.

14:17Richard Greaser It's it's almost like when when a lot of these individuals in the space, when they when they're looking at which political candidate they're looking to support, they they almost have the same level of scrutiny as Peter McCormack does when he's choosing sponsors for a show.

14:41Rod Palmer Right. Right. And you have to think you have to have some principles in this situation. Think about this. You would not trust your children. You would not trust your health.

14:57Rod Palmer You would not trust your family's safety in the hands of somebody who doesn't listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts a week. Why would you trust your country?

15:08Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, do you seriously want somebody to to have the nuclear codes that doesn't listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts a week and just like blatantly shows it? Like, nobody nobody that listens to the adequate amount of podcast to even be remotely interesting, to have the to have the

15:29Richard Greaser level of understanding of the world that you need to even be a sentient being.

15:35Rod Palmer Right. We we I think the problem or part of it is that we keep hiring or selecting,

15:48Rod Palmer politicians with high time preference. It's time we we let somebody with low time preference take over. It's time to kind of shift the pendulum to a lower time preference,

16:02Richard Greaser group of leaders. Well, what's interesting about Donald Trump is compared to, like, a good portion well, I don't know. I mean, you could argue that Joe Biden has low time preference when it comes to his family. Right? Like, he has really done a good job of mentoring Hunter into, being an effective businessman

16:27Richard Greaser in the way that he has, you know, his whole career.

16:30Rod Palmer Right. Most most people are selling Bitcoin to be able to afford to pay their taxes to Ukraine. And Hunter Biden is actually getting money tax money from Ukraine so much that he can pay his taxes. You know, he just forgot to, but, you know,

16:52Rod Palmer he can afford to pay them.

16:54Richard Greaser Well, I would argue that, actually, Bunner has historically lowered American tax burdens. Like, we've had to pay less taxes to support Ukraine because of all the revenue he's generated,

17:09Richard Greaser taxable revenue he's generated in that country through his savvy business skills.

17:14Rod Palmer Right. Right. He's he's just he if you is he perfect? Of course not. Who do you know anybody that's perfect? Because I don't.

17:24Richard Greaser I mean, I would argue Dennis Porter is probably about as close as perfect.

17:28Rod Palmer Well, I go without saying, of course. Of course. I'm not talking about I'm not talking about regular people. And so he's not perfect, but if you go after him, you're gonna harm the economy. You're gonna cost people jobs. I mean, do you do you really wanna be the person that has to look your children, your community in the face and say that your, Herschel grudges against Hunter Biden,

17:52Rod Palmer were worth thousands, tens of thousands of unemployed Ukrainians, like, they'd are out. They need our support.

17:59Richard Greaser Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's really important to, you know, kinda cover inconvenient truce up, for national security. And Right. You know, this is like one of the roles that, like, journalists play, you know, and as, you know, being also a Bitcoin podcaster, what a lot of Bitcoin podcasters

18:18Richard Greaser need to understand is that credentialed universities around the country are probably gonna be giving them honorary degrees.

18:26Rod Palmer Right. It's a lot of people, they like to talk about the value of privacy, but they all wanted to see how what was that? Hunter Biden's laptop. And, you know, it's it's that's that's just hyper total hypocrisy.

18:42Richard Greaser Well, yeah. I mean, it's it's obvious that, you know, a lot of these people like Hunter Biden, you know, they'd benefit from Bitcoin meetups. They'd benefit from going and learning, you know, the basics of how to operate hardware securely. Right? Like, there there's no reason why he shouldn't have been running his you know, having having encryption on his laptop, like, using a program like VeriCrypt to encrypt his hard drive so that the computer repair technician couldn't see all of his private communications.

19:14Richard Greaser Yeah. And, you know, that's one of the exciting things that, you know, we'll probably see here in the near future is, like, I I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, Hunter Biden was seen at a Bitcoin meetup here pretty soon or somebody like,

19:34Richard Greaser you know, Donald Trump Junior.

19:38Rod Palmer You know, these various Think about this. Think about this. See, what? And how much value, how much benefit and literally that is it more. Right? Honestly, then Hunter Biden for Bitcoin and being an arch built. Look at what it did for JFK Junior. JFK Junior was an alcoholic.

19:56Rod Palmer He was a sex addict. He was cheating on all of his wives. He was an environmentalist. He was, he he saw an ad off a whale. He dropped the dead bear off because he was hammered drunk. He was the embarrassment of his family up until just two years ago. And in David Bailey, Orange Pilsen,

20:17Rod Palmer and in two years, he has become white. He's not a podcaster himself, but in two thousand twenty four, he is the most, if not the most, maybe the second most downloaded podcaster, like, podcast guest in all the podcast, especially Dave podcast. And he is, what, three weeks away from then becoming the head

20:41Rod Palmer of health advice for the entire United States Of America? If that is not an orange pill success story, I don't know what is. If they could work for RFK Junior in his, what, sixties, seventies, What did it do for your life if you're like Dylan McClure's age? But I mean, while you can you can see what it would do, Dylan McClure is now running Japanese micro strategy. He's not even 25 years old. Yeah.

21:07Richard Greaser I mean, the Bitcoin podcasters have to realize, like, you know, what the future holds for them is being featured in HBO documentaries and, you know, essentially being honored as, you know, visionaries of their times.

21:26Richard Greaser It's gonna be bigger than just getting invited to conferences to talk. Like, you know, we we I I don't think it's unreasonable to think, like, in 2028 when Dennis Porter wins the presidency, that we're gonna see, you know, lots of podcasters

21:45Richard Greaser at the inauguration, you know, or even leading up to the the DNC when when Dennis, you know, wins the nomination. And we we have to be thinking of, like, how do we position ourselves for this

22:03Richard Greaser this point? And, like, one of the fears that I have about this whole phenomenon is that, like, Podkoff is really gonna take over and and sink their things and and have an outsized amount of influence.

22:22Rod Palmer That is it's gonna that's gonna be an adjustment we're gonna have to make because we are used to kind of coalescing around fighting fun, you know, and telling the the legacy media to have fun stay core.

22:40Rod Palmer But, is they are more difficult to convince, you know, especially noobs, that they're full of shit, and they're very influential

22:55Richard Greaser to the mass majority. Yeah. Which is which is kinda why it's important to, you know, be the the contrarian at the meetup. Like, you know, who do you want Hunter Biden's first impression, you know, when like, you can either have Hunter Biden come into the meetup and get onboarded to using Coinbase,

23:15Richard Greaser or you could be the one onboarding him to use, Yes. Spare Wallet. And

23:23Rod Palmer He is that's a really good point. As we continue to accelerate, as Bitcoin becomes bigger, as more people realize that it is already won, they are going to start looking for Bitcoin meetups, and they are going to have

23:40Rod Palmer maybe not an experienced majority, but a numbers majority. And there's gonna be a lot of people who a lot of you know, they're they have a product to sell. They have a product to show. They have a podcast with sponsors who they have to make sales for. They're like you said, they're gonna onboard them on the Coinbase instead of Sparrow. Your job

24:02Rod Palmer going to a Bitcoin app, whether you have one that you go to every week or you're gonna go to a new one, your job is not to be there and make friends. It's not to to build these, these buying buying relationships where you just watch college football and get drunk. Your job is to transact adversarially. Your job is to be imagine your job is to be the fighter at your meetup. You want to be the predator of your meetup. You want to make sure everybody is Bitcoin, not crypto. I like shitcoin or a pod ordinals apology and keep people

24:35Rod Palmer on their p's and q's. 100%. Mhmm. When in when in doubt, be the predator of your local Bitcoin community, of your family.

24:46Richard Greaser The world the world needs more predators. I mean, it's I don't think people understand how lucrative, you know, the future like, they they think that the skills that they've been learning over the years when listening to all these podcasts aren't gonna translate to anything. But when you're podcasting

25:08Richard Greaser and you're being noticed as kind of like a influential person in the industry, We're we're gonna, you know I I don't think people understand that, you know, BlackRock doing this ETF and all these, you know, big financial institution behemoths that have been pillars in the industry for decades, are embracing Bitcoin.

25:35Richard Greaser Like, what that means from like Yeah. This this is We have the potential yeah. Like, Hillary Clinton has made millions of dollars traveling and speaking at universities. Just, like, she's not orange peeling people because she is Right. She's a she's kind of,

25:53Rod Palmer I think I think the or from my point of view, we have to look at this, and it and it kinda goes into our next subject here, which is the HBO documentary about Satoshi. So I'll start with that. So

26:09Rod Palmer when I'm watching that that documentary, and it's it's it's trying to tell me what I know, which is, hey. Yeah. Peter Todd is not a statistician. But as I'm watching it with my friends, they don't they they don't listen to nearly as many Bitcoin podcasts as me. So they're a lot more susceptible to the programming or the the agenda

26:29Rod Palmer of the documentary of the filmmaker. And as I'm watching it, I'm immediately starting to realize it's a problem because, you know, I'm I'm thirty or forty minutes in, and I'm realizing this this dot HBO watch has listened to more Bitcoin podcasts than most people

26:48Rod Palmer to make this documentary. And they're making big they're explaining it really well. Me and my my friends, like, you've been trying to orange bill me for two and a half years, and he just explained it. You know, and HBO just explained it in twenty minutes better than you have in two years. This is actually pretty cool. I I I'm interested in this. If you as the yeah. If you're, like, the only podcaster at your meetup, you're gonna be looked up to people who are gonna see you as, like, an influential authority. And if somebody like BlackRock shows up or a Fed or, you know, some some company who's who's got nefarious motives,

27:23Rod Palmer and they're listening to more Bitcoin podcasts than you, and they they can explain Bitcoin better than you, and they make it more easy to use and accessible than you. Well, whatever they're selling, your friends and your community is gonna buy because they're better salesmen, they're better orange pillars than you. And the last thing you wanna do is be a king of your, you know, the team orange pillar of your community.

27:46Rod Palmer And, you know, and you'd be it's like getting fired as the CEO of your the company you founded. He founded a big play meet up in the BlackRock, takes over and becomes the president. That's got a that that's a risk.

27:58Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, one of the questions I have, I I found the documentary enjoyable. I think it did a good job of Orange Pilling, the the viewer, but I was, you know, surprised that, one, there's you know, they talked about El Salvador, and yet again, this is just an example of another media source that refuses to acknowledge

28:21Richard Greaser how North Korea has embraced Bitcoin and was the original Bitcoin country, and Kim Jong Un was the original Bitcoin president. I think probably some of that had to do with Samsung, Mao's influence. It was interesting you because, like, last episode, we talked about how Blockstream was using the documentary as as kind of a native marketing attempt to get Adam back,

28:49Richard Greaser seen as Satoshi. And while, you know, that a lot of that happens, and I think people are looking at Liquid a little bit more seriously

28:60Rod Palmer after viewing this. Yeah. I saw I saw I saw something that their website, v like, download or visits went from, like, 14 or 15 a day, and it was it was almost a 100 a day for the first week, you know, since since the documentary came out.

29:16Richard Greaser Yeah. While that happened, you know, I'm kind of curious if there was a geopolitical strategy here, to try and destabilize North Korea.

29:30Richard Greaser And that's why, like, potentially, the CIA wants people to believe that Peter Todd is Satoshi to, like, try and take credit for Bitcoin as a way to undermine Kim Jong Un.

29:43Rod Palmer Yeah. Yeah. And here's why I agree with you or why I think that I I agree with this theory because there's a lot of Ukraine connections. So what did, you know,

29:55Rod Palmer the big, you know, destabilizing force, foreign policy for the past few years And, you know, kind of the the what could get it off? I mean,

30:07Rod Palmer the beginning of the bear market, the beginning of Bitcoin crashing in early two thousand twenty two was Ukraine instigating Russia and do attacking. And then, you know, Peter Todd's very vocal. He's been in Ukraine a lot of this year. He knows what he's doing, who he's working with, but there's a lot of Bitcoin in Ukraine. Like, now, and it's, you know, a connection with Peter Todd is trying to instigate North Korea into invading South Korea.

30:35Richard Greaser Yep. And who knows what's gonna come from that? Yeah. I mean, we're we're in very precarious times, and I don't think HBO realized how how much they're playing with Friar. Maybe they did. But the last time that, you know, Hollywood kinda got involved with the affairs of North Korea, it ended up in some pretty massive cyberattacks that were, disruptive for, you know, companies like Sony. And this one this one seems to be a little bit worse than the way that they portrayed, and and I forgot what the movie was called that, Sony did.

31:14Richard Greaser Mhmm. I don't know why the

31:16Rod Palmer something weird or whatever.

31:18Richard Greaser Yeah. But, yeah, Eun for for decades now has been telling the people of North Korea that

31:31Richard Greaser he indeed was Satoshi, that he's he's solved the Byzantine general's problem, and the double spend problem. And the North Korean people have been utilizing Bitcoin under the assumption that that's true, that they can trust it. And North Koreans have a very deep trust from Western intelligence agencies,

31:59Richard Greaser you know, as a result of, you know, their experience with America during the Korean War.

32:05Rod Palmer Yeah. Yeah. They I I think all of that is part of what I would simplify it down to is North Koreans under Kim Jong

32:18Rod Palmer un had been told that since the Korean War armistice that he is, you know, not only is he Satoshi, but since the Korean War progresses, North Korea controls 51

32:32Rod Palmer of the Korean Peninsula. And at the thirty eight parallel, the the border between the two countries is situated such that exactly 51% of the land of the Korean Peninsula is north of that line. In fact, it's the it's not true. It's actually the other way. South Korea has 51% control.

32:53Rod Palmer And now they find this out along with the fact that Kim Jong Un is not the, the most respected cipher of all time. And now the hackers that have been following this, they thought was Satoshi

33:11Rod Palmer becoming some of the best hackers and intelligence, evaders and CIA, you know, mercenaries. Now they're questioning everything, and it's if things are just breaking apart at the seams, they have they they essentially, he's desperate. He's gonna he he may make it desperate to move because he's desperate to invade power. Yeah.

33:34Richard Greaser I mean, what would be really scary is if he actually is Satoshi and if he moved his coins, how detrimental that could be.

33:43Rod Palmer Right. Like like, what if he just decides to launch a giant transaction to sell 1,000,000 Bitcoin at once? Like, the whole world could be brought to its knees. You know, he's he's he's threatened to do things that would disrupt commerce and and make the economy, at risk in the past. He's like, you know, he's threatened to even use missiles to, to to disrupt the economy.

34:07Rod Palmer Yeah. That's the, you know, a doomsday button. All he has to do is is assign the transaction and broadcast it from his note.

34:17Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, we're what we're talking about here is we're talking about a guy that understands Bitcoin. He understands game theory. He has used Bitcoin for a long time. He has trained his citizenry to be some of the most effective cypherpunks in the world, that are very knowledgeable on using Bitcoin.

34:43Richard Greaser And he also is vindictive like Craig Wright is. And so, you know, Craig Wright essentially attempted to to kinda neuter the and take over the Bitcoin podcast industry through, you know, lawsuits over people that, you know, deny that he was Satoshi and Un might be willing to launch nuclear weapons or invade

35:08Richard Greaser South Korea. So we're we're it it's just it's incredible the amount of geopolitics the level geopolitics that, you know, is at play here that a Bitcoin documentary could have the ability to to destabilize

35:24Richard Greaser an entire region, if not the world. Yeah.

35:27Rod Palmer Well, you know, despite the potential, underlying sigh behind making that documentary, it was

35:38Rod Palmer honestly, I I I really enjoyed it, and I think it's worth watching. The only other complaint that we haven't talked about yet that I have about that is, you know, I thought people would have learned after Vlad, Kostya had Roger Ver on his podcast.

35:56Rod Palmer Roger Ver is a stammer. I'm disappointed that the documentary filmmaker for HBO, Colin Haldac, disappointed that he platformed Roger Vare. But

36:07Rod Palmer I am I am glad that he at least noted that Roger Ver is in jail for his scams, now, but I just wish he wouldn't have had him on there at all.

36:20Richard Greaser Well, that was, like, a really interesting thing to even include him in the documentary, and I'm kinda glad that they did because people need to see that even OG Bitcoiners, can have trouble affording their taxes.

36:36Rod Palmer Right. Like, that's, it's kinda, like, shocking. Yeah. I think when it says it's not being able to afford the taxes, and but it's an asterisk. It's if you if you manage it wisely. And I'm glad that they did also, I would add, because it it's important for people who are unfamiliar with the space to understand how annoying,

37:00Rod Palmer and why any shitcoiners are. And I think Roger Barry is a great example of that. I agree.

37:07Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, most religions, you know, struggle with false prophets. Right? And you kinda need somebody to exist to ensure there's, like, an effective canon. And while, you know, Roger Ver was you know, played an important role in, you know, Bitcoin's

37:28Richard Greaser history. He is what I would identify as a false prophet. Yeah.

37:35Rod Palmer Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, everybody knows that in Bitcoin, if it was Christianity, that Jesus was Satoshi. He made the ultimate sacrifice of of of destroying

37:51Rod Palmer his his self, his ego, and his and his keys. But Roger Ver claimed, you know, beat Bitcoin Jesus. And that was it really turned out to be, you know well, it depends. Some people think that Satoshi is at him back. Roger Ver tried to stab the small blockers and Blockstream in the back with Bitcoin Cash. So, you know, ironically, and I'm not the first person to say this, but, Roger Ver is actually Bitcoin Judas. I agree. Do you think that there is a percentage?

38:24Rod Palmer Would you call it the possibility that Piercon is Satoshi and that the documentary was onto it? And even if not perfectly correct, they were close.

38:36Richard Greaser Well, I mean, I think, like, a lot of people struggle with the idea of Peter Todd being Satoshi. I think it's in the the realm of possibility, but I think it's kind of unlikely.

38:53Richard Greaser And the reason why I believe this is because I've listened to so many Bitcoin podcasts, and that's what everybody on the Bitcoin podcast, you know, says. But, I I think the the community at large is pretty, concerned that this could be true because it would mean that Satoshi wasn't as based

39:18Richard Greaser as we thought he was, which is kind of concerning because, you know, unfortunately, Peter Todd is not that based. Like, he doesn't

39:27Rod Palmer Right. He doesn't really there's a lot of there's a lot of there's a lot of things or flaws that I think if people found out that Satoshi had, they could forgive them. Because that'd be like I said earlier, nobody's perfect. And if Satoshi was cringe, that would be kind of a a letdown.

39:48Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, I think, you know, this this isn't hyperbolic to kinda compare, RBF to abortion, because you're essentially aborting your Bitcoin transaction. And, like,

40:03Richard Greaser a lot of a lot of Bitcoiners consider, you know, a valid transaction from inception. Like, the second that

40:13Richard Greaser the second that it goes into the mempool.

40:16Rod Palmer Yeah. John Convolo is a great example. He was he fought very hard, I guess, RBF because, like you said, a transaction begins at the broadcast. Yeah. And, you know, I see, like, a scenario where

40:31Rod Palmer maybe I I I fucked something up and I owe I I spent all my Bitcoin because I I fat fingered something, and my life would be ruined if I accidentally gave up all my or, like, made all of the the transaction fee, like, all the rest of my Bitcoin. Like, if I notice that within the first ten seconds or the first few minutes, I mean, I I did I could replace that fee. I could abort that transaction. Okay. But if I mean, if it's then if it's on everybody's node, it's it's almost about to be included into a block. It's in the template. Somebody is close to you know, a pool is close to fucking finding that nonce.

41:09Rod Palmer And right in the last second, right before it's confirmed, you decide to terminate the transaction. I don't know if I find that to be

41:18Richard Greaser ethical. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, abortion is one of the the most controversial topics in America right now. You know, people are finding it. It's gonna it's gonna swing their election vote probably more than Bitcoin will, which is,

41:37Rod Palmer Right. I mean, if you're if you're not sure how to feel about it, just find work devs who share your values. Like, Lou Lou Dash, he is a Catholic, but he supports, transaction abortion. So, like, find somebody and and learn their position and, you know, but make your own

41:58Rod Palmer make your own do your own research, but make your own conclusions. Yeah. Mhmm. Yep.

42:04Richard Greaser I don't know. I assume there's some pretty interesting stuff, that was covered, and, I I think the fact that HBO is reporting on it at all just shows that, you know, Bitcoin has won. But, you know, I think one of the key takeaways that I took

42:26Richard Greaser from the documentary was that they they seem to portray Bitcoiners, Bitcoin podcast listeners as cool. And we're starting to see that, you know, with the orange wedding, with, you know, these monumental,

42:43Richard Greaser kind of shifts with the HBO document, we're starting to see that Bitcoin podcast listeners are no longer the ones that people make fun of at the parties. You know, they're they're not the people that that, you know, people make jokes about about being annoying or being talking about Bitcoin too much. You know, they're starting to listen because they're starting to see,

43:07Richard Greaser you know, Bitcoin really is the feature. Exactly. Exactly. You know, in Jeopardy, people are not gonna they're not gonna go for bitches in the future. They're gonna understand Bitcoin is the future. I like that. Well, you know, the Trump family, is kind of a confusing one to me. I, you know, in in some ways, they're based,

43:32Richard Greaser especially Don Junior. He, he's really taken it upon himself to try and, you know, be the most based of the of the Trump family. We're we're seeing them, like, Donald Trump kinda

43:50Richard Greaser try to operate in a dice dynastic manner. Like, he's trying to set up his kids for success. He's trying to make sure they don't turn into fail songs. Mhmm. And in that way, he seems to have very low time preference, but at the same time, he's launching shitcoins. It's it's like Heimkall

44:09Rod Palmer makes messages. One day, he can say nothing wrong. The next day, he can say nothing right. And you some people get, you know, ahead of themselves. They're they're tempted and they and they they get they fall for, you know, a good day, and they they kinda tie their identity to supporting him. And then he embarrasses them with shitcoins the next day.

44:34Richard Greaser Well, I I've got a theory on it, which is, you know, Donald Trump has been a real estate mogul his whole life. And, you know, as a full time podcast listener, our you know, our audience will understand that real estate's a shit coin.

44:51Rod Palmer Right.

44:52Richard Greaser So he made his enormous wealth shit coining. And, you know, he's he's figured out what Bitcoin is. He's trying to set up his family for intergenerational

45:06Richard Greaser wealth. But, like, realistically, the only valuable skill set that he has is shitcoin. Right. And so I wonder if Yeah. Him launching these tokens and, you know, being involved in the with the shitcoining is just his way of trying to acquire more Bitcoin. Yeah.

45:24Rod Palmer Or, you know, we could be forced to face the the fact that it's he said in his ways, he can't change, and it fit it and it forces us to to question

45:38Rod Palmer our strategy. Like when we have a friend, there's a really high time preference and we know he's kind of stupid and we can arch villain really easily, but just because of his propensity, it's almost like being an addict. Somebody easily gets addicted. You can't get him one cigarette, unless you, you know,

45:57Rod Palmer you're prepared for him to to become addicted for Russ' life. It's like, if you were to put Trump, there's just no way around. It Chick fil A.

46:07Richard Greaser Well, you know, people don't get addicted to people don't get addicted to, cigarettes. It's just like I think that's like a misunderstanding. That's like, what they're getting addicted to is their brains functioning

46:22Richard Greaser at a normal level. And, like

46:26Rod Palmer But then sometimes people go on to smoke pipe tobacco. And that's like, now you're now you you give somebody some of the cigarettes, you think they're gonna be cool, and then they show up to the party, and they embarrass you because they're smoking pipe. Like, they think they're Dick Tracy. Yeah. Yeah. It's just,

46:42Richard Greaser I don't know. Like, a bit I feel like most Americans, their brains don't work properly. Right? Like, they Right. There's these issues with these they call them mental disorders, you know, where, like, people are, like, so afraid that climate change is coming for them that wow. This is a rabbit hole that we could get in, for sure, which is,

47:09Richard Greaser I was just about to tell the audience about this rabbit hole of, you know, the weather manipulation and the the Yeah. Politics happening right now around climate change. We saw some of that happen this week. There was another hurricane in Florida. There's some

47:29Richard Greaser interesting stuff happening in in Tampa with a guy in a sailboat.

47:35Rod Palmer Yeah. Yeah. I gotta tell you, it's it's it's hard to know what to think again because it's you hear so many

47:49Rod Palmer theories and then you see so many theories that that fall apart. They say that they talk about this hurricane and what caused it. And then they say it's gonna be really bad. It's gonna be hurt to a degree five and then it hits Tampa. It doesn't even it's funny that it's like barely day. Like, the demon on the boats arrive. You know what I mean? It's like everybody freaked out,

48:11Richard Greaser and they didn't have to freak out. Well, I wonder if climate change made this, hurricane less impactful because that's, like, one of the the things that's unfortunate about climate change is it doesn't it doesn't go both ways. It doesn't just create catastrophes in the sense of, you know, making the the weather worse, but it also, at times, makes the weather significantly better.

48:37Rod Palmer Right. Yeah. Like his state, you did 75 degree days in New York City in January. And it's it's kind of hard to rally support to pay higher taxes

48:51Rod Palmer to make it colder in New York City in January. I mean, it's higher. It's crazy. Like, he wants to be like, yeah. I wanna do that.

49:01Richard Greaser But, yeah. I don't know. The the weather manipulation is definitely a topic we'll have to look more into. I mean, you could you could, to some degree, argue that smoking is a form of weather manipulation because you're essentially putting carbon into the the environment, which, you know, makes the trees healthier.

49:24Rod Palmer Right. Right. And it's or is all of it a sign up to ban Bitcoin mining? That that is a very interesting theory.

49:37Richard Greaser Yeah. Are we falling you know, are people falling for it? It yeah. I don't know. I mean, this is why the world needs Dennis Porter. You know? They need to understand that, Bitcoin mining is the only thing keeping renewable energy alive other other than your tax dollars. And, this is like the free market opportunity to fix the fix the climate change. Like, you know, Bitcoin mining and Bitcoin in general

50:03Richard Greaser will ensure that Al Gore will never make another climate documentary. And that is something I think the world needs and wants.

50:12Rod Palmer You know, I don't you know, maybe we'll leave it to save this for a discussion for another day, but I because I haven't thought enough about it, but I heard somebody say the other day that Dennis Porter is bad because someday the the CIA is gonna use all the selfies he took with politicians to blackmail those politicians. But I didn't understand what they meant. Like, I don't understand why having a selfie with Dennis Porter would be could be used as blackmail. Yeah. I mean, I can understand

50:40Richard Greaser why taking a selfie of Samson now could be viewed as blackmail because he he does have a tendency to wear Tethr t shirts at inopportune times. And just being associated with that could be, kinda rough, especially if you're in the compliance ecosystem

50:60Richard Greaser because, I think, like, you know, if you're ever trying to, like, work with Coinbase in the future or Circle or these PayPal, these groups of competing stablecoins, they might not look too kindly on the on the market competition of you being affiliated with Samsung. Right. It'd be like

51:21Rod Palmer you you might have a really good name or you might have a really good post on Twitter. And then, like, you know, when somebody like when Elon Musk makes a good point and somebody puts, replies with a picture of him and Diddy, you know, it's like he you might be you might make a really good point or you might have be celebrating a big success for your company or your podcast. And if somebody reminds you, you know, two years ago, you took a selfie with Samsung now and you it looks like you're supporting Tether. Yeah.

51:51Richard Greaser And I think, like, you know, Tether has kind of been a little bit of a Trojan horse for the industry of, like, you know, presenting this idea of using dollars to make Bitcoin stronger.

52:03Rod Palmer It's like it's like, this is the easiest way to get Bitcoin into into this community. Yep. And then as soon as you do, two seconds later, you know, USDT comes flooding out. And that's just that's what everybody's using.

52:17Richard Greaser I mean, Tether, Tether ruined Pacific Bitcoin. They, almost canceled the orange wedding.

52:25Rod Palmer You know, they I mean, Europe kicked them out for their I mean, like, Europe is like, these people are worse than the gypsies. We're kicking them out. So where is you know, what's USDT? What's TADA gonna do now? They're gonna have to focus harder on the global South and on The United States.

52:43Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, you're you're a pretty big market, and, that that definitely was,

52:51Rod Palmer Yeah. Europeans are terrified of volatility. They are just they they it's like you're a meal, like, an anxious dog. Like, it just shakes and you you you you need to, like, move the muscle. It fucking flinches and it runs off. It's, you know, the idea of volatility or, like, a difficult decision or a risky decision. Europeans just raised the white flag like like the French in the '19 during World War two,

53:16Rod Palmer Which doesn't make sense to me. They love stable coins.

53:20Richard Greaser It doesn't make sense to me because Europeans should be based because they they tend to consume cigarettes much more than, you know, Americans in some extent.

53:34Rod Palmer I love they're they're most based. The people who smoke the most cigarettes, they, unfortunately, you know, they all were sent to die in war against Russia. All the only people that are left behind are people who are like, hey, don't

53:55Rod Palmer don't talk with me. I'll use your custodial solution. I'll hide the negative negative yielding bonds.

54:02Richard Greaser Well, I wonder it'd be interesting to get kinda like the rates of, like, how many, Europeans have transitioned. Like, you know, they they've taken it upon themselves to, you know, implement these very strict climate policies. Right? And I wonder if, you know, part of the issue of why Europe is full of such betas is that they transitioned away from cigarettes to vapes to try and be more climate cautious.

54:32Rod Palmer Here's what I think it is. I need I think nobody in Europe has an air conditioner. And they, like, if you've, there was a sea wave, quote unquote, in England this summer, and the peep people were passing it out and just, like, miserable.

54:49Rod Palmer And it was the equivalent of, like, 72 degrees Fahrenheit in England. They are so afraid of climate change because they don't have air conditioners. They need air conditioning. Yeah. Well, I don't wanna get too bummed out talking about Europe.

55:04Richard Greaser Because,

55:05Rod Palmer I don't know. Because I think they're the Bitcoin miners, you know?

55:08Richard Greaser We don't we don't wanna spend too much time punching down. You know what I mean? Right. Right. Alright. So why before we transition to the boost, so I wanted to talk about our performance on Fountain or, sorry, not Fountain and Wavelake over the last couple of weeks.

55:24Rod Palmer I mean, it's that's that's another that's my reason we forgot to mention to be bullish at the top of the podcast.

55:31Richard Greaser Yeah. Yeah. So the people's been dominating Wave Lake. So, my song, typical politician, has been trending number one for six days. Your song, Girls on Spaces,

55:45Richard Greaser has hit a resurgence.

55:48Rod Palmer And Penalties that you played at Pueblab.

55:51Richard Greaser Getting played at Pueblab. It got posted on Stacker News. It started trending again. It got to number two. At the time of recording, it's currently at number four.

56:03Rod Palmer Well, thank you guys for for helping me follow Matt O'Dell's, advice of staying humble because you guys have been humbling me with your, appreciation from, for our music. And before we get to the booths, I will finish your thing with Waley. But after you do go into the Rabbit Hole recap conversation.

56:24Richard Greaser Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Rabbit Hole recap was, talking about our our musical skills. They were talking about, you know, the bugle's impact on the industry. They were talking about what we got got going on. And, you know, the exciting thing about the way that we do our journalism is that any sort of reach and success that we have is because of our audience.

56:49Rod Palmer A 100%.

56:52Richard Greaser So, you know, the fact the way that you trend on Wavellike is essentially you have your audience members, boosting. The way that you trend on founders. You have your audience boosting. The way that you Mhmm. Like, trend on the Oster is you get people engaging with, you know, your posts, whether it be zapping or or sharing. And it's very different than, you know, the the kinda like PodCon fiat way

57:22Richard Greaser of doing podcasting. So I'd I'd just like to say a big thank you to our audience and, you know, just say that, you know, we're being recognized as the most credentialed podcasters, journalists in the industry.

57:38Richard Greaser Like, the the PodConf circuit is seeing us. And I think they're they're recognizing us as equals, but it's only because of our audience. We don't have Yeah. It's a grassroots grassroots movement. Yeah. Well, I mean, we don't have sponsors to to pump us and kill us, you know, and,

57:59Rod Palmer throw money at us. It's all it's all valid. By or or or or one sponsor we had for, like, two episodes did not work out, thankfully. Blessing in disguise. But they're they're like an anti sponsor. They're costing us money.

58:13Richard Greaser Yeah. And, yeah, at the same time, like, I I think, like, they're they're showing to our audience why our our journalism is valuable, because people are hungry for an alternative to Podkoff. They they want something interesting. They want something more meaningful. They,

58:33Richard Greaser you know, have have listened to Anthony Popliano for years and just have gotten, you know, tired of the the shilling. They want they want objective journalism, that only, you know, those with a bachelor's degree,

58:50Rod Palmer can offer. 100%. 100%. And, honestly, like I've said in the past, we might have to see other people, and there are, you know, underworld misfits as a is is part of the intellectual silk road and part of this movement. Radio is another one. And but we need you join us. Join us in this in this movement and as being this alternative.

59:13Rod Palmer And if you can have feedback, let us know how we can improve. But I I think better than feedback is to just be the, you know, alternative out there that

59:28Rod Palmer makes us versus us to stay on top of our game so that we can put out content as valuable and as interesting as when you put out. That is starting to, like I say, a million times, there can never be too many Bitcoin podcasts. The the time lifts all boats. Yeah.

59:45Richard Greaser I mean, people people have a choice on what their what they want the future to look like. Do they want it to be ruled by HR departments? Do they want it to be determined by those who don't smoke cigarettes? Or do they really want something brighter? You know? When I think of the bright orange feature, you know, it's not just about people interacting with Bitcoin. But as you can notice, you know, when you're smoking at night,

1:00:15Richard Greaser the the tip of your cigarette lights up all orange. And imagine there being a million smokers standing in a field, all

1:00:29Richard Greaser with their cigarettes lit in the middle of the night, the the orange glow that would come off that field. Like, that's what I want you to recognize and to realize that, like, Podkoff just does not offer that.

1:00:41Rod Palmer Yeah. Think of Podkoff as Gotham City, and think of that little orange that little orange light at the end of your Sarah as as the the signaling signal, as the

1:00:57Rod Palmer as the lighthouse. So anybody in your vicinity, when they see you have light up, they know they're not alone. Yeah.

1:01:06Richard Greaser When you light a cigarette and you listen to a Bitcoin podcast, you are a light on that hill, projecting a bright orange future to the rest of the world who Setting setting an example. Yeah. Exactly. And without people like that, nothing will ever change.

1:01:25Rod Palmer Yeah. Before and before we get into the base, I wanted to say that not everybody wants to put themselves out there. Everybody wants to start a podcast. Everybody is a good orange miller, but they want

1:01:40Rod Palmer to contribute. And a lot of people, especially this day and age, they think that, well, you know, one of the most common ways to to help people, to help a cause, to further a cause is to donate to charity. The but charities are nonprofit. It's a corporate structure designed

1:01:60Rod Palmer by the feds to five zero one c three corp, and it is designed for the sole purpose of compliantly money laundering. They it doesn't help people.

1:02:12Rod Palmer If you wanna help somebody, donate to a Bitcoin podcast. Let me sit on fountain or start your own. Don't donate to charity.

1:02:23Richard Greaser What if the podcast is a five zero one c three? What do you do then?

1:02:30Rod Palmer You don't do that. It's it's it's a more costly it'd be like spending more to mine Bitcoin than you have to. It's like, I wanna pay more for energy. You're you're paying more and you don't need a five zero one c three TA if you if you boost a a Bitcoin podcast, but not on KYC wallet, it's on I mean, that's tax deductible.

1:02:52Rod Palmer Nobody knows that. You have to pay taxes on that. I mean, if you have, you know, the day how your podcast is is is listed, you know, and how that that split is set out, you know, you could you could launder that. But that's a second that's a secondary

1:03:13Rod Palmer objective. A Bitcoin podcast primary objective is helping people. If for a nonprofit or a charity, it's helping people maybe is on the list, but it's down the line further below money laundering. Yep.

1:03:28Richard Greaser Yeah. It's, one one of the things I would ask you kinda with this line of thinking is, you know, why should our our listeners boost us if they're already having trouble

1:03:42Rod Palmer affording taxes. Well, if you're already having if you're having trouble affording taxes, the only way to to fix that is to acquire more Bitcoin. And the best way to do that is to listen more Bitcoin podcasts. So sometimes you have to spend money to make money.

1:04:01Rod Palmer If you want those podcasts to be available to you to help you afford your taxes, they need your support. Yeah.

1:04:08Richard Greaser I mean, one of the one of the things that really, you know, changes the game with Fountain, which is kinda interesting, is I've noticed on when I was listening to podcasts this week, on a fair amount of them, I was actually earning as I was listening. I was boosting more than I was earning. But, I think this is, like, the first time you can directly correlate any sort of monetization of listening to a podcast, and it turning into a profitable

1:04:38Richard Greaser endeavor. You know what I mean?

1:04:40Rod Palmer Right. Like, time is money. The time you spend listening to Bitcoin podcasts, that's also money. So not only you could grow Bitcoin, you grow generational wealth just by

1:04:55Rod Palmer improving your life, improving your situation, and listening to thermodynamically sound content like Bitcoin podcast.

1:05:03Richard Greaser Yeah. Yeah. It's very, very cool and interesting. But, yeah, I think we should get into the boost. The boost are, you know, like I said, they're the more most important part of the the show because they allow us to trend on,

1:05:20Richard Greaser on fountain and get recognized by other people.

1:05:26Rod Palmer And they pay for our cigarettes.

1:05:28Richard Greaser Yeah. And they pay for our cigarettes. They pay for Kaylee, who is a vital part of the show. Yeah. Our our first boost of the day is from loyal booster and controversial figure, miss Huddl knot four twenty

1:05:46Richard Greaser for 20,000 SaaS. And she says, it's so nice to see free market solutions to climate issues pertaining to war. Yeah. Although,

1:05:56Rod Palmer honestly, we talk a lot about the negative consequences of war, and we talk about the negatives of war.

1:06:07Rod Palmer But there's so many that it kinda gets buried down here. The obvious, which is wars are managed by governments, and governments are so inefficient at everything, including managing a war. I mean, think of how much money, you know, the the the US government spent fucking

1:06:26Rod Palmer in Afghanistan with no with no cause of results. Think about what a private corporation, how they could have done that better. At least it was he doesn't even have to be a, like, a mega corporation. Like, the you can have a non state private, actors like the Uzi's or or Hesco op. They're able to wage more at a much lower price point

1:06:47Rod Palmer because they're just much more efficient. There's just so much less overhead and bureaucracy and baggage. Yeah.

1:06:55Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, the free market solves everything. I think it's reasonable to say that the free market will be the one to solve climate change and it will is actively resolving all the the climate emissions coming from war.

1:07:11Rod Palmer At the end of the day, free market is just a legacy term for Bitcoin.

1:07:18Richard Greaser Yeah. Like, I mean, this should be the serious question in in Americans' heads. Like, you know, I think the the kind of collective consciousness is being raised as a result of so many people interacting with Bitcoin. People's IQs are getting

1:07:35Richard Greaser higher, they're smoking more, they're consuming less seed oils, they're getting sunlight exposure, like normal people. And Yes. Yeah. One of the questions that's coming to mind is people are no longer asking the question of, like, who will build the roads without government?

1:07:53Richard Greaser They see that. They see they see how much commerce Amazon participates in and and how vital roads are to them. You know, we're we're starting it it it's becoming more obvious, but they're asking now of, you know, questions like how will the the free market offset all the emissions from Israeli missiles

1:08:14Richard Greaser and Iranian

1:08:16Rod Palmer missiles? Right. That is also one of the biggest red blocks, type of Bitcoinization that a lot of people have have always noted is that

1:08:30Rod Palmer how do you pacify your population and and be able to conduct high level, you know, just commerce

1:08:43Rod Palmer and function of your society. If everybody's if the people aren't pacified with, like, television, you know, and it'd be easy cheap for the boat without, you know, government controlling, you know, the infrastructure for the Internet and and and and streaming services, you wouldn't have things like Netflix. But now with Lightning, like, Bitcoin fixed it so that you don't need the government to manage it. You can just run net Netflix on Lightning, and you can

1:09:11Rod Palmer smooth the volatility of that Fiat, the hyper Bitcoinization, Bitcoin standard transition, but making sure people still can watch TV. You just made me think of something. So you said,

1:09:23Richard Greaser Netflix on lightning. That made me think of, you remember the company Impervious?

1:09:29Rod Palmer Yeah. Yeah. Have they shipped a product yet? No. I've just heard the name, but I don't I I had not heard of anybody using it or, you know if if if they had a product, I would assume somebody would have a promo code, an affiliate code to be on a podcast, and I haven't heard that. So I have to assume no. Yeah.

1:09:47Richard Greaser That's kind of, strange. I've been surprised they they haven't shipped the product yet because there was so much hype around them. They they had some speaking slots at the conferences a few years running. But,

1:10:03Richard Greaser yeah, I mean, maybe there there's still a market for Netflix on lightning. Oh, yeah. I think we're just early. I think we're just early.

1:10:10Rod Palmer People, you know, just to be early and get that ability, you'll probably have to to run your own lightning node. I know we're preaching to the choir if you're listening to us right now. Don't know if you want your friends to be able to do it. You're gonna have to teach them how to set up a lightning note. I think the next is it's, you know, probably our our main

1:10:30Rod Palmer our main front of the show where I pay for Bitcoin podcast, fundamentals, 10,000 stats. People not part of HBO documentary that makes it irrelevant uncredential journalism. A lot of times a lot of times fundamentals has has, it's been pretty adversarial.

1:10:48Rod Palmer He's an adversarial podcast based here. But I think that, we've really become good friends with him. He's got a great podcast, and he he's finally he's finally aligned with our incentives, and he understands the value of the the credentialed journalism that we we put out there. Yeah. I mean, I I didn't even think to get offended that we weren't included in the documentary.

1:11:14Richard Greaser I think they they definitely could have covered us as being an important part of what's going on right now, but, I don't know. I didn't take it personally.

1:11:28Rod Palmer I think it this I didn't film when I used to go. They could've started filming that before, you know, we the bingo was even launched, but I think it probably inspired some more people who, think like Man, or somebody else's Satoshi, so they're gonna try to make a cooler, better Bitcoin documentary. And I

1:11:49Rod Palmer yeah. I'm confident we'll be included in one of those.

1:11:52Richard Greaser Yeah. I know I know when they put out a documentary stating that Kim Jong Un or Dennis Porter or Satoshi, they'll definitely reference us because we've been the premier. It's just a matter of time. Like, you know, the the problem, you know, the edge that we have over other other Well, I don't know. Why do you just fail off? Well, you know, like, a lot of these other credentialed news agencies, like, you know, they're they're scrambling. Their journalists are scrambling to try and figure out, you know, just the basics of Bitcoin.

1:12:28Richard Greaser They they they don't staff people at the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal that have been listening to forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts a week, at least not yet. Like, I haven't seen a single job posting on Bitcoin or jobs for any of these credentialed news agencies. And so our our relevancy will just be, you know, continue to be, seen through the test of time. Every block that ticks by,

1:12:58Richard Greaser we're gonna be leaps and bounds ahead of our competitors at these other news agencies. So I think I'm not particularly worried about it. I mean, we're a platform that launched in,

1:13:11Rod Palmer Yeah. Yeah. If you're if you're pretty recently. Yeah. If you're worried about that, just my advice is lower your time preference.

1:13:19Richard Greaser Yeah. And if you if you wanna ensure we're in the next Bitcoin HBO documentary, then boost us. You know? Because that's, like, how our, our reach is determined. Yeah. It's all gonna go as far as we're boosted.

1:13:35Rod Palmer Yeah.

1:13:37Richard Greaser But, yeah, anyways, I appreciate the boost. I appreciate the thought. It it's good to see that people are, you know, kinda recognizing us as being important enough to be included in this this point of Bitcoin history where HBO made a documentary. Do you remember the days when, like, you know, people were just, like,

1:14:00Richard Greaser excited about any sort of mainstream adoption?

1:14:03Rod Palmer Right. It's like, you know, they oddly auto was on the CNBC livestream that you could get on Yahoo, finance on Tuesdays on the second page. And it's like, dandy, Second page, you know who financed Paul. And now, you know, sailors sailors on the view, like, every other week.

1:14:23Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, what's it what's it mean when, you know, Bitcoin is going mainstream and instead of us bitching about, you know, safety and not being on Rogan, we're bitching about how HBO didn't cover the Butte one. Like, they're Right. Right. Right. It's a yeah. I was telling you earlier.

1:14:41Rod Palmer Forest for the trees, it's zoom out. Zoom out. There we go. Zoom out. Back to 2019, the somebody like the bugle would not even be mentioned in the same echelon as HBO. And now we're talking, like, Max HBO special better than where it's not relevant.

1:15:02Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, I'm bullish on the future. Like, I I think there's, like, a high potential that you and I one day can moderate a presidential, debate. Like, imagine if we moderated,

1:15:15Rod Palmer why? Instead of CBS or Fox News, we're doing it on Zap. Stream.

1:15:19Richard Greaser Yeah. The the bugle, presidential debate between Mark Zuckerberg and Dennis Porter. I

1:15:26Rod Palmer You know, it's we say one day. A lot of times we keep that means like some vague thing in the decades in the future, like we could literally be talking about the next election.

1:15:37Richard Greaser We are talking about the next election. Yeah. Absolutely.

1:15:40Rod Palmer A 100%. 2028, baby. People's gonna moderate a, presidential debate. Just get ready for it. That wouldn't even be the one hundredth craziest thing that happened in the past four years.

1:15:52Richard Greaser No. No. I mean, like like, I I don't know. I mean, we should we should definitely, like, do bingo cards at some point. I would I would have, Donald Trump signing Kaylee Kaylee's breast at some point, I think that is a high potential.

1:16:13Rod Palmer Yeah. And, you know, re re repealing all Sarah's smoking bans in public.

1:16:18Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, I could see that happening by 2030.

1:16:23Rod Palmer Oh, I I know that's true.

1:16:25Richard Greaser Well, you know, we we have a choice. We we all have a choice, what we want things to look like in 2030. You know? It's why why it is just, like, one group of people get to have a 2030 agenda that we don't? Right.

1:16:41Richard Greaser Like, do we want the future to be based, or do we want it to not be based? Like, I think we want it to be based. We want people to be smoking. We want people to like, if if you're seriously concerned about the emissions from smoking, you just you you have to either budget it into your emission allotment or you have to buy carbon tokens. And if you've

1:17:04Richard Greaser been saving in Bitcoin, you know, a few satoshis worth of carbon tokens to cover your cigarette, smoking is it's not gonna be a big deal to you. You're gonna be, you know, full You just set right there. Yeah. Offset your taxes, offset your carbon credit costs

1:17:24Rod Palmer by smoking cigarettes.

1:17:26Richard Greaser Yeah. Well, anyways, thank you for the boost fundamentals. Appreciate it. Next boost is from Open Mic, 7,777 SaaS, phone number. Says, Beagle Mile High Club zaps again and then

1:17:45Richard Greaser a airplane.

1:17:47Rod Palmer Yeah. I was I was just talking to one or, you know, in the group chat chatting with, one of our buddies or listeners, Rob Hamilton from Andrew Watch. And he's he says behind all his Bitcoin podcasts listening, but, he's been enjoying

1:18:03Rod Palmer the My Life, the Beagle My Life Club on his on his flight to Australia here coming up. He's pretty glad that we can, provide him content on that

1:18:15Richard Greaser really long, shitty flight. Well, you know, I mean, it's when you're on airplanes, it's such a clear example of, like, how we can have a better world. Right? So, like, you're sitting in a in a box in the sky, and they don't want you smoking. They don't want you drinking your own alcohol. They just want to, you know, put these arbitrary restrictions on you. They

1:18:39Richard Greaser they want to, you know, hassle you and and scan your face. And and it's almost like they're trying to make it as difficult to be a cypherpunk as possible during the travel experience. Yeah. And, you know, listening to the bugle, you know, we're presenting such a different

1:19:02Richard Greaser view of the world, the world, you know, in which Bitcoin has already won. And I think it it just helps it to sink in a little bit more. Like, it it makes Right. The stuff we're saying make be, like, mean more make more sense. So I think the airplane is the perfect environment to be listening to a Bugle podcast.

1:19:23Rod Palmer Absolutely. Our next bassist is from Arbeli Rayo. He says he this is 5,000. He says cheers from the Free Republic Of Paznia,

1:19:36Rod Palmer P A Z N I A. A. Hope the, legendary Richard Grieser performs at a venue fest someday. He's talking about your music, of course. But, thank you so much, Rayo. I I would I wanna ask you, Richard. Like Bitcoin and like may like, voluntarism and these other,

1:19:57Rod Palmer libertarian adjacent, you know, some cultures, sometimes if you're not familiar with them, you'll read a sentence or they'll read a base, and you'll be like, I have no idea what any of those words mean. Can you explain,

1:20:12Rod Palmer what is the Free Republic Of, of I don't know if I'm saying it right. Bosnia And Vonifest. What's he, what's he referring to there?

1:20:20Richard Greaser Well, unfortunately, I've yet to travel to Vonifest, but Vonifest has been happening for a little bit. So, essentially, what Ray is doing is, he's creating a decentralized citadel of like minded people. So, you know, he understands that we live in this, you know, age of the Internet,

1:20:41Richard Greaser and that he's he's really trying to, uphold Cypherpunk standards, you know, of not allowing the world to be ruled by, you know, intelligence agencies and tech companies that

1:20:58Richard Greaser that allow for you to have no privacy and can just steal your stuff. And so, VonuFest is essentially, you know, the celebration of that idea. You know, Rayo has been doing, you know, some really cool stuff for a while with, with the podcast,

1:21:17Richard Greaser long time Bitcoin podcaster, as well as a book salesman. So Rayo is also a publisher and has a website called Liberty Under Attack. And that's actually how I was introduced to Rayo, you know, a long time ago because I was looking for base books, and Rayo had some base books on his website. And so yeah.

1:21:42Richard Greaser Rayo is actually you know, I've been working, with him, definitely considered part of the intellectual Silk Road. And, I'd love to I'd love to perform at. And I think, you know, there there's people that have, like, talked about the hypotheticals

1:22:01Richard Greaser of a citadel for years.

1:22:04Rod Palmer Right. Right. He's he he's like a a pioneer.

1:22:08Richard Greaser Well, he he's not just talking about it. He's doing it. Right. Right. And and I think that's that's what sets him apart from, you know, a lot of people in the industry that just kinda wanna talk through the hypotheticals.

1:22:21Rod Palmer Kinda like a mushroom. He's like a pilgrim, modern day pilgrim. Yeah. Definitely, definitely appreciate the opportunity to culture and adversarially, with people like Rayo.

1:22:36Rod Palmer And if, you're interested in anything that, Richard just kind of talked about and would like to learn more, you should definitely you should definitely check that out. In fact,

1:22:48Rod Palmer if, Richard, you remember, include a link to to Rayo's website, like, in the show notes.

1:22:56Richard Greaser Yeah. Yeah. I definitely will. You could buy digital copies, which just means that you can download the files from my albums that are published on on Spotify on Rayo's website. And I'll definitely be publishing more music over there in the future. But it's just a way to, you know, once again, help the people, help the intellectual Silk Road.

1:23:21Richard Greaser But, yeah, appreciate it. The website, I might forget to put the link. I I shouldn't, but it's libertyunderattack.com. Pretty easy to find. I think there's a Pasnea website too. If you wanna look for the info. Yeah. What is that? Just paznia.com? Let me look it up. Free republic

1:23:43Richard Greaser I see. Paznia.com, paznia.com. But, yeah, thank you for the boost, Ria. Our next one is from Saverud

1:23:55Richard Greaser five thousand Sass, and says, environmentally friendly warfare is the way forward. Any thoughts on NATO's climate impact under the leadership of Jens Stoltenberg? Will we see a shift now that the new general secretary being from The Netherlands?

1:24:12Richard Greaser That's an interesting question. My

1:24:17Rod Palmer Go ahead.

1:24:18Richard Greaser Well, my initial thoughts on it is, you know, I think there's some pretty base people from The Netherlands. There's something there's something that just makes you based about wearing wooden shoes. You know what I mean? And, you know, really, like,

1:24:30Rod Palmer it's just crazy that the two best skating boxing cultures in the world are from our Thailand and Netherlands.

1:24:42Rod Palmer I don't I don't know why, but it's a I mean, I should I I should look forward to that. But the there really is only one that tipped really fucking hard.

1:24:50Richard Greaser Yeah. Yeah. And you can see it by the, you know, the farmers and their protests. The, it there's something that the Dutch government really failed to understand is, you know, they need to make their farmers rich. And then any sort of climate concerns, they can just offset with carbon credits. Right. And let the free market resolve the issue. Yeah. And one of the things that it's probably,

1:25:17Rod Palmer just good general advice is, I lost my train of thought. I'm stoned. Never mind. But, yeah, Netherlands, interesting country, based farmers,

1:25:30Rod Palmer lots of dikes, the kind of an old water back. Frick it down. Not the lesbian. Yeah. I don't know. I don't think that's weird at all. The only thing that's weird about The Netherlands is, like, never named Jen. I always think of Jennifer, but it that's actually a male name

1:25:47Rod Palmer in in The Netherlands. Holland is the as they call it. They don't pronounce it in so funny way. They don't say Jan instead of Jan. Maybe maybe like that's how, like, Jan Pritzker would spell his name if he was from The Netherlands.

1:26:02Richard Greaser Like, I wonder if, you know, part of it so, like, one thing interesting I learned from the HBO documentary is that Samsung's company, Jan three, is named that because because of January 3, which is an important date in Bitcoin history. And I wonder if

1:26:25Richard Greaser the Dutch started calling, you know, their their men January in reference to January as well. Just considering. Because that would be incredibly based. I I mean, if it's based enough for Samsung's company to be named it, you know, maybe it's based enough for the the Bitcoin man to, you know, have a

1:26:46Richard Greaser seemingly girl name. Yeah. Yeah.

1:26:51Rod Palmer Thank you, for the boost. Our last boost, it's from, what you guess it, a bile. 801

1:27:02Rod Palmer sets. I feel like in addition to a lot of orange billing going on in the bomb shelters, talking about Dennis Porter, and people just having orange billing conversations, while they're

1:27:14Rod Palmer shielding themselves from the Iranian attacks, there there would be a lot of people selling steel punch seed phrase backups. After all, if you can't sell them to people, these homes have been wiped off the map, who are you gonna sell it to? Thank you once again for the captivating discussion, and god bless. And that's a good point. That's a good point. If you are selling, like, doomsday scenario, seed phrase back ups,

1:27:41Rod Palmer things that can survive apocalypse, nuclear war, It's kinda tough to sound that when the economy is fine and, like, there's you know, Israel's keeping peace in the Middle East. But if you go to these kinda like these gravity wells of

1:27:59Rod Palmer of volatility where there is, conflict that is kind of isolated to protect it from spreading and affecting the economy and the rest of the world. There is a risk of hypersonic missiles, you know, targeting you to raise the price of Bitcoin to fund some of these efforts.

1:28:20Rod Palmer If you if you can survive, you can't guarantee that your house or that, your your hardware wallet is gonna survive. That's why you need these sturdy anti fragile backups so you can still access your Bitcoin. And when you get assigned your refugee country and you get there, you get access to the Internet. Yeah. I know I know some people, like, try to flex and they they memorize their their seed words. But, you know, you don't wanna risk, you know, you know, shell shock from, from water causing you to have memory loss and and not being able to remember your C phrase. So they're not just trying to destroy

1:29:01Rod Palmer your hardware wallet physically. They could be just trying to concussion grade in your vicinity and cause you to forget your memorized c phrase.

1:29:11Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, that could be that could be a tactic to essentially make Bitcoin more scarce. Like, I I know I personally would prefer my seed phrase written down because you never know when you're gonna have a crazy night at on sailor's yacht, and potentially forget those important

1:29:36Rod Palmer words that are And you can never be sure that, kinda like, your hardware, well, it's not gonna explode at this point. We have we live in a world where you have to at least calculate the risk of that being true.

1:29:52Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, you know, we we have to we have to, you know, come to grips with this reality that Israel is very powerful, and they they understand technology very well and have the potential to blow up your your signing device. So Yeah. Yeah.

1:30:13Rod Palmer Hey, Miles. Always appreciate the, the best. Always appreciate the the insight or the, you know, your thoughts on on some of the important credential journalism that, we work so hard at the Beagle to provide.

1:30:32Richard Greaser Hell yeah, man. Well, yeah. Wrapping up, I just wanna shout out, our listeners, people that are boosting the show, people that are sharing the show, because, essentially, you know, sharing an episode is is kinda like boosting

1:30:50Richard Greaser in a way, you know, where you're increasing the reach. You're increasing the the pool potential for people that will boost us. And it's how we win. You know? Yeah. And

1:31:01Rod Palmer the past that we use, the word booster has kinda gotten a bad a bad rep. But Bitcoin podcast is like the bugle and and some of the other fine signal podcasts on fountain.

1:31:15Rod Palmer Fuck. We're taking the word back. We're making boosters the word booster positive again.

1:31:22Richard Greaser We're making boosting great again. Yeah. Well, yeah. Anyways, thank you for everybody for tuning in to this week's episode of Eagle Weekly, and, we will catch you next week. Bye.

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