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Transcript: The Future is Wrapped | Bugle Weekly Episode 44

0:13Rod Palmer You are traveling to another dimension. A dimension not only of sight and sound, but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are dependent on how many cigarettes you smoke. Your next stop, the Bugle Goose.

0:35Rod Palmer Last week, President Trump announced that he would be abolishing social security by replacing that Ponzi scheme with another. In two executive orders, he issued all United States citizens their own Solana blockchain meme coin, and the other he ordered the Department of the Treasury to begin redirecting payments that were going towards social security to begin purchasing the meme coins to boost their value. Americans Retirement Monday is now being held on the Solana blockchain,

1:03Rod Palmer and your retirement fund is now directly correlated to your ability to propagate memes. By introducing the president to bitcoin, David Bailey has unleashed the shitcoin kraken upon humanity. Already, Plattator and Dick Whitman are plotting on how to correct humanity's course. But in a world without Gary Gensler at the helm of the SEC, what power do they really have? Dennis Porter seems to appear lost in the weeds at such an anti bitcoin only development. He is hastily making a tactical retreat from Washington DC back towards state capital buildings to begin introducing more bitcoin strategic reserve bills.

1:39Rod Palmer Is our hope of having a Bitcoin only world at jeopardy. Luke Dash Junior is currently working on a constitutional amendment in order to filter shit coining out of the government. But like his attempts to filter ordinals, he will likely get little backing from the larger community as a whole. Many are wondering if voting harder really made a difference this time. In the coming weeks, a lot has yet to be revealed. Will Bitcoin pump despite all the shitcoining?

2:05Rod Palmer Which shitcoins will be held in the strategic stockpile? Will Bitcoin be regulated like firearms and protected under the second amendment like Jason Lowry foretold? All we have is questions waiting impatiently for answers. Will David Bailey be redeemed

2:22Rod Palmer or will we descend into darkness? You are listening to the Bugle Weekly, the most thermodynamically sound podcast in the world. Buckle up because you are entering the Bugleverse.

2:35Rod Palmer Welcome back to the Bugle. I'm Rod Palmer here with Richard Grieser bringing you the news, bringing you the journalism, bringing you the signal for the week. And what a week it has been. How are you doing, Richard? How how how how'd you handle the first week of

2:56Richard Greaser the first Bitcoin presidency? Well, it was pretty interesting. I I don't think we could really draw any conclusions on anything yet. I think everything's still up in the air, and

3:12Richard Greaser people are being pretty reactive. But

3:17Rod Palmer Yeah. Yeah. I agree with that. I mean, we were promised day one for Ross Ulbricht to be free, but it actually took two days. So you're Donald Trump already started off on the wrong foot by lying to us about Ross Ulbricht,

3:35Rod Palmer But they did get it done and it was a big eventful first week at least for headlines. I mean if you saw the headlines it was HR departments, DEI people in the CIA, The CIA, announcing that

3:50Rod Palmer they believe the lab leak theory instead of Joe Biden's theory about, a bat having sex with a person. And a lot of people were very very on nerve the first few days, especially because it like I said, because it took Ross twice, and they were showing their and I think it was showing their high time preference because it was it's a very active week. But it's we were promised a strategic Bitcoin reserve on day one. We're going on week one. We don't have it. In fact, it's been renamed to the digital assets

4:21Rod Palmer strategic reserve or, you know, Trump's buying wrapped Bitcoin. Let's talk about Ripple and crypto being in this thing. What's you said it's it's too early to make any conclusions, but it all it's not too early to be concerned. Well,

4:36Richard Greaser I think Bitcoin maximalist should not have been blindsided by the fact that Donald Trump was a shitcoiner, first and foremost. I think it's really interesting the language that was used in that executive order. So it wasn't a reserve. They used

4:55Richard Greaser the term stockpile. Kinda leads me to believe that instead of classifying Bitcoin as a First Amendment protected right, they're gonna classify it as a second amendment protected right,

5:12Richard Greaser and they're gonna lean into Jason Lowry's soft forward theory, essentially. Interesting. Bitcoin and all coins or munitions of sorts.

5:25Rod Palmer What do you think the the the second order effects of this type of classification has on

5:36Richard Greaser on on Bitcoin? Well, I think the conversation will shift to Elizabeth Warren trying to promote red flag Bitcoin laws, essentially. So allowing the government to go in and

5:55Richard Greaser seize your Bitcoin or your altcoins through force. They'll go take your hardware wallets from you in person if they deem you non compliant.

6:09Rod Palmer What if they what if they think that you're listening to too many hours of Bitcoin podcasts or too many hours of right wing libertarian militia podcasts? Do you think that

6:25Rod Palmer they might use as an excuse to take away your right to to have non KYC cold storage hardware wallets? If

6:36Richard Greaser if there's a possibility for them to be able to do it, I think they'll try to exploit it. And people just have to come at things from an adversarial mindset

6:48Richard Greaser of always being willing and able to take the noncompliant path because we know these people don't really care. You know, they've been enforcing smokey bans

7:02Richard Greaser for decades now. They've been trying to restrict their freedoms gradually and slowly over time, but consistently. And that trend's not gonna stop just because the price of Bitcoin goes up. Right? They're going to want a KYC. Like, you know, one of the reasons

7:22Richard Greaser I think they like digital currencies in general is because they like the idea of trying to eliminate the ability to do any non KYC transactions. Like, they want you when you're going to your local cigarette dealer. Instead of doing, like, a cash or Bitcoin

7:41Richard Greaser transaction with a with a noncustodial wallet, they want you using Tether through PayPal

7:49Richard Greaser or, you know, whatever their, you know, controlled exchange is.

7:57Rod Palmer Well, we won. Thanks to the proof of work put in by maximalists and podcasters, everyday people now understand the difference between Bitcoin and crypto.

8:07Rod Palmer But now, some Americans are surrendering to their worst impulses. They want to eradicate the shitcoiners who can't afford their taxes. They support policies that would break up families and disrupt communities for the sake of retribution against their fellow human beings just because those people didn't listen to enough Bitcoin podcasts.

8:25Richard Greaser The proponents of this high time preference policy don't have an answer to one very simple yet critical question. If we expel all the shitcoiners, who will wrap our Bitcoin?

8:35Rod Palmer President Trump and his cabinet of wise Bitcoin podcasters are building the digital infrastructure of the future by acquiring a stockpile of wrapped Bitcoin across all the most popular blockchains.

8:47Richard Greaser This policy will create countless new jobs, jobs that people who can afford taxes do not wanna do. Even if I wasn't a conscientious

8:55Rod Palmer crypto objector and allowed shitcoin nodes into my home, You couldn't pay me enough to wrap Bitcoin, not even for president Trump.

9:07Rod Palmer But someone has to wrap America's Bitcoin. We need a pathway for shit who are willing to do the dirty work of diversifying the network interoperability of America's Bitcoin reserves to become taxpayers.

9:20Richard Greaser Join our cause. Let the Bitcoin community know where you stand. Tell your fellow Americans there is a compassionate solution to the Shitcoiner problem that benefits everyone who strives to be able to afford taxes. Visit wrapyourcorn.org to learn more and find out how you can help everyone be able to afford taxes.

9:45Rod Palmer Right. Because we're using Bitcoin to make the dollar stronger, not the other way around. So anything where you or the using, Bitcoin, selling Bitcoin, using it as a medium exchange or a sovereign, you know, transaction,

10:04Rod Palmer that would be bad for the price of Bitcoin, which would be bad for the dollar, but as long as everybody's just saving Bitcoin cold storage or on ETFs, and using Tether, that benefits society. Well,

10:22Rod Palmer I don't think it society. I

10:24Richard Greaser I don't think it benefits the fiat society at all. I think what they essentially see Bitcoin as is a it's a vehicle to make the population solvent so they can afford to pay their taxes. Right?

10:40Richard Greaser It's not it's not a vehicle to empower individuals. They they want the tax process to become as automated and simple as possible. So they wanna be able to skim your Tethr transactions automatically

10:56Richard Greaser instead of having 80,000 IRS agents manually having to look over your tax returns. Like, they they fire I think the Trump administration is firing all these IRS agents

11:11Richard Greaser because they're just replacing them with AI. Like, they're gonna have Sam Altman doing your taxes instead of, you know, whatever loser

11:22Richard Greaser that they had before. And Right. And so there's a real question that I think every Bitcoiner, an individual in general, has to ask themselves is what's their main purpose in life? Is there a purpose to pay taxes or is there a purpose to smoke cigarettes? That's really important. And

11:42Rod Palmer but, you know, back to this, the stockpile conversation, a lot of people are very very very upset. They're blaming Michael Saylor. They think that maybe Michael Saylor has switched to the crypto digital asset side. But there's there's talk about all of these additional

12:02Rod Palmer non Bitcoin assets going into the reserve. And one of the big ones, and they've already got what they wanted, is Ripple. Ripple has been in the conversation. It had been the topic of discussion viral on Twitter the past couple of days. Everybody's mad about them,

12:20Rod Palmer but look at their playbook. They what they do is they want to get a press release. They they go to a bank, they go to a major financial institution and they get a press release with their logo on

12:34Rod Palmer it that says that the two are partnering on a pilot program to test XRP as a bridge currency for remittance payments, etcetera. And what really happens is nothing that those are just they're just paying for those press releases that nothing ever happens nobody's using it but it allows them to pump the price and dump on retail. So what all the top crypto companies are doing, they're lining up in Washington

13:03Rod Palmer and they are promising millions, tens of millions, support loyalty to Donald Trump if he puts them in a press release being considered for the strategic digital asset stockpile. So Ripple was the first one to go. Salon is getting out there. I think Aptos is another one. They're all going to get a picture taken

13:25Rod Palmer with the the vice president or the cryptos are and say that they are looking forward to being in the the digital asset stockpile. And that press release and that fake partnership with their logo on it will send the price up. So we just gotta get through that. And then once all the crypto once every single crypto company, there's only a couple 100,000 of them. Each week, they will get their press release. And once that is over, Donald Trump can announce the strategic

13:58Rod Palmer Bitcoin reserve for what it really is. Maybe. I just

14:01Richard Greaser I think the Bitcoin maximalists have made some pretty serious tactical mistakes over the last few years. And I think one of the primary ones is their inability to accept

14:15Richard Greaser meme coins and ordinals. Yes. There's not any real value to them. But what we're seeing right now is that all these individuals that had pre mined coins

14:29Richard Greaser have massive political lobbying power. If you look at the difference between the funding that Satoshi Action has received versus the funding that Ripple Labs has,

14:44Richard Greaser it's night and day different. Like, sure, Ripple doesn't have Dennis Porter. The only reason why Satoshi Action is relevant is because Dennis Porter is a superhuman. He's like a demigod or maybe the second coming of Jesus.

15:02Rod Palmer But The second coming of Bitcoin Jesus. The first one's going to prison for the rest of its life, but we're gonna need another Bitcoin Jesus and Dennis Porter could be that person. I mean, you look at the position

15:14Richard Greaser that Roger Ver is in versus all these Bitcoin maximalists. So he ended up him and all the people behind Bitcoin Cash

15:28Richard Greaser We're able to make a tremendous amount of value out of nothing by just forking Bitcoin. And I think that's the only time anybody will ever be success successful, at that. I think that's the only time in history that will happen where you could just fork Bitcoin

15:47Richard Greaser and end up with millions and millions of dollars out of doing nothing and have your original Bitcoin and your forked Bitcoin, which you can just dump. He has money to fund a serious legal defense. He can make it really expensive for the government. He's running marketing

16:08Richard Greaser endeavors right now trying to get people's attention. He's getting responses from Elon Musk even though though they're not very positive. He's garnering a lot of attention that a lot of normal people can't do because they didn't embrace the shitcoins. And, you know, if you're gonna try and play in the system, you have to understand the system. Right? The system is funded by shitcoins, and it's funded by meme coins. So if you wanna play in the system, you have to be a shitcoiner in a meme coin, or you or else you're just completely disadvantaged. Like, what are you gonna do? Like, try try to

16:43Rod Palmer Right. This is this is why the new system we're building on Bitcoin, the hyperbitcoinization, a lot of people thought it would solve all the problems, but it has not yet. And we're going Bitcoin has already won, but we haven't fixed the world yet.

17:05Rod Palmer And so what shitcoins are, it's the it's the ditty party of the new system. The old system you'd have to go if you wanted to play the game, if you wanted to

17:21Rod Palmer extract extra value from people and have power and control, you had to go to the ditty parties, you had to go to Evanston Island. Now you have to be in the group chats of the people who are launching the next big meme coin. I mean, if you want to buy Trump coin, it goes to 50,000,000,000 in one day.

17:42Rod Palmer Well, you're not gonna benefit from that unless you are really good friends with Donald Trump and his sons and, you know, Martin Shkreli and Buti and, like, you're gonna get, you know, the information to buy those meme coins early. And you have to go to those parties and you have to traffic in adolescent meme coins. So you have a choice. Do you want to go to Sailor's hundred k yacht party? Do you want to go to the Crypto Ball and meet Snoop Dogg and Cynthia Lamas? Well, you might have to go to a crypto ditty party. And is that something you're willing to do or would you rather just stack sats

18:22Rod Palmer and and run your bid acts at home and hope that that you can amass enough Sats that they you have they it's too expensive. They have to leave you alone. Yeah. I think you had told me this

18:38Richard Greaser when we were messaging earlier that the Discord pump and some channels, those are the ditty parties of crypto right now

18:49Rod Palmer where Right. Right. Yeah. That's what we need. Yeah. And that's where the the future cantillionaires or the people in those group chats, in those Discord servers, at those crypto ditty parties.

19:05Rod Palmer So they'd be closest to the meme coin that you get to pump and just make unlimited amounts almost of USDT Tether that you can

19:19Rod Palmer that you can DCA back into Bitcoin for your savings. It comes from these Dity Party group chats. Yeah. I think that's a pretty fair conclusion. 100%. But, like, how like, what like, how do you you know, you might not even know that you're connected to one of these Dity Party crypto Dity Party group chats,

19:38Rod Palmer But what and maybe some of your friends are in there, like, what do you how do you avoid those? What is what are the signs that you stay away from that, or how do you get out of that? Well, I think it's just embracing

19:51Richard Greaser this ethos that makes Bitcoin attractive, which is actually in the system entirely in building a parallel one. But that might be a little bit too radical because I mean, we we have differing theories on things than Podkoff.

20:08Richard Greaser Right? And Podkoff drives the majority of the narrative that people are talking about. They control the the Twitter narratives. They control a lot of the podcast narratives. Their sponsors have a ton of influence in the community.

20:27Richard Greaser And they believe that compliance leads to NGU. Like, that's their their core message that they're trying to present to people. And that doesn't resonate with a lot of people that have read about the Cypher Punks, have listened to podcasts about the Cypher Punks,

20:45Richard Greaser and are attracted to this idea of anonymity and self reliance in a digital age. And I think the path

20:59Richard Greaser and the alternative is to start a Bitcoin podcast and to be funded by the value for value community. Because I think we we both want Bitcoin to go up, but I think many of us see

21:15Richard Greaser the downsides. We see the trade offs of what happens when Bitcoin only goes up because of compliance. Like, why why is Ross such a big deal? Why is Ross being freed a great event? It's because he gave Bitcoin

21:33Richard Greaser a noncompliant use case, right, which led to the price of Bitcoin inevitably going up. Many people were onboarded to be to listening to Bitcoin podcast

21:46Richard Greaser because of the Silk Road. Many Silk Road users so this is a good example. So so Peter McCormick, previously the world's biggest Bitcoin podcaster, was all boarded to Bitcoin because of the Silk Road. And I think the answer is more Bitcoin podcasts. And a lot of a lot of Bitcoin podcasts and podcasters,

22:10Richard Greaser they get interested in Bitcoin not because they're looking for a new way to comply. People already have plenty of ways to comply. We don't need compliance innovation, in my opinion. We need noncompliance innovation.

22:24Richard Greaser We need to find sneaky roundabout ways to buy cigarettes, to bypass bans, to bypass taxes, to bypass all of these mediums which

22:36Richard Greaser attack an individual's individuality and freedom of expression. We need to tear those down, but not just eliminate them and and replace it with something worse. But But we have to build something better in the process, and I believe this value for value

22:58Richard Greaser podcasting ecosystem is one of the ways to do that. We we can make the price of Bitcoin go up without necessarily having to play the game of having a pre mine shitcoin to be able to afford to lobby the politicians.

23:15Rod Palmer Yeah. And one of the bad signs, although some people have been very happy to hear the news, Donald Trump is going to is signing an executive order that will replace Social Security,

23:31Rod Palmer and instead of a Social Security number you will be issued a meme coin. You will be issued a Solana address with a meme coin. And your ability to afford your taxes, to retire, to just

23:49Rod Palmer secure your future, then your retirement would be your ability to pump this meme coin. And the, you know, whatever whatever market cap or whatever value that your meme coin generates throughout your life, that is, that is yours. And some of these dating parties that it really brings home to what it is, it's it's like if you create if you take your meme coin and you

24:15Rod Palmer let it be pumped pumped full of Tether by influencers and by the CIA,

24:27Rod Palmer and you you you take your your your essence, who you are, your meme, and you just let the CIA pump it full of tether. That's just it may make you rich, but, it's just, you know, I think a lot of people didn't like

24:44Rod Palmer necessarily the the fame and fortune they got for letting Harvey Weinstein pump them full of tether. It's just you it's every person has to make their own choice, but to meme ifying our future is is a very dangerous move. I think we as bad as social security is, I don't know if this is the right answer. I'm not a huge fan of it. I mean, what if somebody what if what if somebody accuses your meme coin being a pump and dump? You didn't even get to choose it. You didn't even get to choose to have it.

25:15Richard Greaser Well, theoretically, all meme coins are pump and dumps in this scenario. If your retirement is based on it, like, is your meme coin gonna remain valuable or have any relevancy after you die? Like, theoretically, it dumps upon your death. Right?

25:33Richard Greaser People stop trading it unless you're some sort of celebrity.

25:36Rod Palmer Yeah. The it's it updates the saying, the only things that are guaranteed in life

25:41Richard Greaser are your meme coin goes to zero in taxes. Yeah. I mean, that makes sense. So you get issued a meme coin, and the government takes a portion of your taxes and buys a portion of your meme coin and puts it in their strategic stockpile. And so the stockpile is backed

26:02Richard Greaser by the meme coins of all its citizens. Right? So the government's solvency and value is dependent on all its citizens.

26:13Richard Greaser So citizens are incentivized to live lives that generate value for their meme coins. I think Well, yeah. And podcast podcasts

26:23Rod Palmer can definitely, definitely boost the value of your meme coin and boost the value of your community. Yeah, it's almost like a government mandated Bitclout. Right, that's true. It's like Bitclout is essentially what replaced Social Security is what you could say. Yep.

26:41Richard Greaser I I know a lot of people have issues with it being built on Solana. I think that's, like, one of the primary issues with this, that they're building your retirement on top of a blockchain that arbitrarily

26:57Richard Greaser can turn off and on periodically.

27:01Rod Palmer They used to be built on orbitals.

27:04Richard Greaser Yeah. Well, I mean, this is interesting because what if the Trump administration backs BIP 300 and drive chains

27:16Rod Palmer in order to be able to issue meme coins on Bitcoin. Then it would be I think if that was the use case, I think you were if if Donald Trump announced that today, I think he would get consensus on Bip 300, by by tomorrow. Yep. So, Eddie, it's it's do you think that Paul is ready to to take this on a national tour and defend it on podcasts across

27:41Richard Greaser the community? I think he's ready. I think he's been foaming at the mouth for this moment to prove himself, to prove that giant chains are should be taken seriously, that Bitcoin Cash and Ethereum should be built

27:55Richard Greaser on top of Bitcoin. How would

27:59Rod Palmer what would that be like to bring Bitcoin Cash back on to Bitcoin? Like, it's like a prodigal son moment, right? Yeah. I think it would be. I mean, it would be very interesting. Do you think that Bitcoiners would welcome them back in this in the if there was if if they said we were gonna build Bitcoin Cash on Bitcoin, do you think that they they would let bygones be bygones? No. I don't think so. For some for some bit,

28:26Richard Greaser probably. But for a lot of the Sure. Probably not. Like, I don't think there's any way to make Pleasure happy. I don't think there's any way to make mechanic happy. Luke, definitely not. I mean,

28:38Rod Palmer but I feel like Shinobi would be one of the first people to extend a hand and welcome the big blockers back to building on Bitcoin, but other than the others too. And

28:51Richard Greaser it could be good for n g e. Yeah. I mean, there's people like Whitney Webb and Mark Goodwin who are really against the idea of BlackRock tokenizing everything. That's one of their major concerns that they're on. And I think just because BlackRock tokenizes the world

29:10Richard Greaser on Bitcoin, it's not gonna make them any happier. They're they're just inherently against BlackRock tokenizing everything. And so there's there's, like, a class of Bitcoin or like that that I don't think you can make happy in this scenario. They have an idea and vision for what Bitcoin is as peer to peer cash. They don't believe that Bitcoin's role is to help the the global population afford their taxes

29:38Richard Greaser or to make the dollar stronger. So I think that's kinda gonna be one of the really interesting themes for 2025. So did we talk about last week? Were we gonna do our predictions

29:49Rod Palmer going forward? Oh, yeah. Did you did you have, any specific, list that you wanted to to make predictions for? I didn't prepare

29:59Richard Greaser anything like I should've, but I could rattle some some off. I I think there's Yeah. But let's start yeah. Let's do them. What's I'm excited because I I have some very bullish predictions. Yeah. I think the most important prediction is that we're gonna see the price increase a lot and we're gonna see an increase in a lot of podcasts. And I think the increase in podcast

30:26Richard Greaser is gonna be the the leading indicator for price. So one bullish one bullish development that is going on behind the scenes is that Sly Goomba

30:38Richard Greaser is relaunching his podcast. I talked to him the other day about that. So that's pretty exciting.

30:44Rod Palmer There are some other I mean, there are some other podcasts that we may get back. Some that have seemed to die down. I mean, John k. Valis, he could start another Bitcoin podcast where he'd restart his I think Eric Kayson is starting a Bitcoin podcast. Just it's gonna be rant after rant. It should just be the daily rant, honestly. That's what I would call it.

31:08Rod Palmer But, we talked to Mike. They might bring back the high hash rate podcast. There is, you know, Peter McCormick. I don't think it's too late to count him out for making a comeback,

31:23Rod Palmer especially as this bull market kicks off and there could be more. I mean, Sawetzky, he may bring back a big one podcast. BTC CAS, CASBLICO, he could start another podcast. Lot of possibilities.

31:39Richard Greaser Yeah. I think every Bitcoiner should start a Bitcoin podcast. So what is your prediction

31:46Rod Palmer for the the biggest new Bitcoin podcast for 2025? Who do you think that's gonna be? Or what do you think is that, you know, that's gonna look like? I think Hailey Welch

32:00Richard Greaser is gonna come out of hiding, and she's gonna rebrand as a freedom activist. And she's going to repent for her shitcoinery and become Bitcoin only. And she's gonna launch

32:17Richard Greaser a Bitcoin podcast. She's gonna pivot the talk to a podcast into a Bitcoin only podcast. I think

32:26Rod Palmer the biggest new podcast, but 2025 will be Ross Ulbert. I think he will be I think he will

32:37Rod Palmer assess the landscape and realize the opportunity that lies before him to fill that void that that Peter McCormick left. Ross Ulbricht created the old the the Silk Road, which orange pilled Peter McCormick.

32:55Rod Palmer And Peter McCormick in turn orange pilled so many people that they helped get Ross free. And then Peter McCormick retired, and now it's it's time for Ross to pick up

33:09Rod Palmer and continue to orange pill, and he's the one that started it all. He's the one who Ross Ulbricht is the one who inspired the Bitcoin podcast movement by creating the Silk Road and orange filling Peter McCormick. That is that's where I think is how it's gonna play out.

33:29Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, Ross definitely gave a lot of people a reason to podcast, which is saying a lot. I don't think he's gonna start a podcast. I think he's gonna be too busy going on other people's podcasts. I think what he's gonna do is he's gonna get a book deal, and then he's probably gonna be

33:46Richard Greaser interviewed in a few documentaries, and then he's going to go on a million other people's podcasts and just be so consumed by the PodConv tour that he's not gonna have time. But there there is a real potential that that he starts his own podcast.

34:04Rod Palmer You think he's gonna get a book deal, and I agree with that, but I think he's also going to get a lot of DMs from hot chicks and Bitcoin wanting to be his girlfriend. And I think that I I I think that he's he's he's definitely going to make people

34:24Rod Palmer jealous. It's there's gonna be some competition there.

34:28Richard Greaser Yeah. I think so if Ross is listening to this, enjoying his freedom, listen to the Beagle Weekly, which I fully expect him to at some point, I think if you're gonna do a book deal, you should do it with Laura Hillebrand. Are you familiar with Laura? So she did

34:47Richard Greaser she's done some really good stuff. So she did she's famous for writing the book, Seabiscuit. But she did a really good I'm not familiar with all of her other books that she's done, but she did a really good biography of Louis Zamperini

35:06Richard Greaser called Unbroken. I don't know if you've seen the movies or or read that book, but that's a pretty good book. I think she's a good candidate for Ross Ulbrick. I think I think the challenging thing is you get out of prison, you get all this media attention, you get all these offers. What are the correct

35:27Richard Greaser offers to take? Because if you take the wrong offer, if you work with the wrong person on your book deal, it could really set you back significantly. And Ross is gonna be bombarded by stupid shitcoiners, by

35:42Richard Greaser bad authors, by grifters and scammers.

35:48Rod Palmer Documentary filmmakers.

35:49Richard Greaser Like, I would say avoid anybody affiliated with the History Channel, first and foremost. I would say it's probably good to avoid HBO. The the Peter Todd is Satoshi documentary was a little bit disappointing.

36:04Rod Palmer Yeah. Yeah. It's there's gonna be a lot of temptations there, and but I I'm gonna stick to my prediction of the the biggest podcast. So, for the next prediction, this one I think the way I'm going to frame it, I what I've had not the price, but

36:26Rod Palmer what market cap do you think we place we capture this year? Do we take gold? Do we take, any of the Sony or Ramco? Is it going to be the biggest

36:40Rod Palmer market cap in the world? Is Bitcoin going to be the biggest market cap in the world? Or what place is it going to be on that list? Right now, let's see what's the phone. The top 10. Bitcoin is number seven behind Alphabet, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple,

36:58Rod Palmer Nvidia, and number one is gold. Well, you'd have to

37:03Richard Greaser my price prediction is $2,000,000,000,000 a coin by the end of twenty twenty five. So number one on the list. 2,000,000,000,000 USDT per coin. So it's gonna blow gold out of the water.

37:17Richard Greaser It's gonna eviscerate NVIDIA. The only reason why NVIDIA is even gonna be relevant at that point is because you need GPUs to look at price charts. Like, you're gonna need a you're gonna need a forty sixty at least

37:32Richard Greaser to be able to handle looking at the one minute price chart swinging in million dollar increments. You know how My my prediction is that

37:47Rod Palmer I'm gonna I don't think I think you're right about 2,000,000,000,000 USDT per coin but I think that that means I think that at that point we're gonna start repricing it and I don't know if people are even gonna think about it in USDT terms. It's gonna happen so fast the dollar's gonna just be so wiped out That they're gonna measure it

38:09Rod Palmer in the ETHBTC chart. And I think that there's gonna be 10 zeros after the decimal point before we get to a digit on the ETHBTC

38:22Rod Palmer chart. That's where I think the price is gonna end up this year.

38:27Richard Greaser Well, I think this is gonna happen with the dollar strengthening

38:31Rod Palmer at the same time, which is kinda crazy to tell you all. Okay, so you date's gonna be 2,000,000,000,000 USDT, but the dollar is gonna be at an all time the Dixie is gonna be at an all time high. Yeah. We're gonna we're gonna cease using

38:45Richard Greaser the Dixie because all the other currencies in that basket, like, Japanese yen's gone. The they're they're all using Tether in Japan. Swiss

38:56Richard Greaser franc, gone. They're all using Tether in Switzerland and Monero. The great the British pound, gone. All all those things that are used to measure against the dollar are gonna go to zero. There's gonna be a God candle when it comes to pricing the dollar against other fiat currencies.

39:17Richard Greaser It's all gonna be because they're gonna be backing the dollar with Bitcoin and meme coins. So the real question is, I think the thing that's interesting to think about is the way that the Trump administration seems to be positioning is that this

39:35Richard Greaser this site that we're looking at, I I assume you're on the same one. It's, companiesmarketcap.com. Is that the one you're on? Yeah.

39:46Rod Palmer Yep. Yeah.

39:47Richard Greaser It's just gonna be replaced by CoinMarketCap or CoinGecko.

39:52Rod Palmer Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. CoinMarketCap. So that is that's interesting because a lot of people thought, especially even up to a month ago, that we were getting rid of the shitcoiners, they were gonna deploy them on Donald Trump's gonna get rid of all of them, it's gonna have the strategic Bitcoiners to buy it.

40:10Rod Palmer If we do that, then we we won't have anybody to wrap our Bitcoin. And and as we're building the future on top of Bitcoin as everybody's toke BlackRock is tokenizing everything, but they're gonna and they're gonna need wrapped Bitcoin. And we're gonna need the shitcoiners to wrap a Bitcoin because the that's the jobs that we're not gonna wanna do. And

40:36Rod Palmer all these later twos that were they're just gonna need so many people who can't afford their taxes, working hard to wrap the Bitcoin so they can so they can make money to afford taxes. Yeah.

40:49Richard Greaser Well, you know, since the Trump administration is getting rid of Social Security and replacing with meme coins, The reason why wrapped Bitcoin is so important is because you need liquidity in that market. Right? And so Right. Right. Wrapped Bitcoin wrapped Bitcoin becomes a part of,

41:06Richard Greaser of national security. Because if you cannot keep a liquid meme coin market of people to be able to trade in and out of wrapped BTC into whatever their meme coin is on Solana,

41:20Richard Greaser then that creates some pretty serious issues for

41:25Rod Palmer America's retirement. Why so they didn't fully quit they need to nothing stops the strain, right? We need the liquidity. Exactly. This is and this is why it's important because they're going to wanna pay you and wrap the coin. And like how, you know, you can still self custody it. So what do you do here? What if they even they'll let you unwrap it? Can you still cash out your meme coin? Or can you truly cash out your meme coin? Or can you only cash it out for wrapped Bitcoin?

41:57Richard Greaser Well, the banks that are issuing the wrapped Bitcoin because people need to understand how this works. There's not really a DeFi protocol that people are locking their Bitcoin into. What's happening is the Bitcoin is being held by a bank somewhere that that issues a or an exchange

42:17Richard Greaser that issues a wrapped Bitcoin token. Right? And what we're gonna see is these exchanges and banks that are issuing these wrapped tokens are gonna be FDIC insured in the future. And that FDIC insurance is gonna be backed by Bitcoin.

42:35Richard Greaser So it's almost like it's wrapped FDIC insurance, if that makes sense. Interesting.

42:42Rod Palmer What okay, so your prediction in 2020 of how many meme coins does the Trump, does the White House launch in 2025

42:56Rod Palmer and how much Bitcoin,

42:58Richard Greaser wrapped Bitcoin do they cash out for? I don't know about the amount of wrapped Bitcoin that's gonna go on the strategic stockpile, but I would estimate at least 300,000,000. What's the population of The US? It's, like, 340,000,000 citizens.

43:16Rod Palmer Yeah. More or less. Plus the the, the assassin market meme coin are still here. Yeah.

43:23Richard Greaser So if every individual in The US so this is one of the things that's kinda interesting. So if you replace Social Security with meme coins on the Solana blockchain, because everybody has a meme coin, you're less incentivized

43:39Richard Greaser to launch your own meme coin to compete with your Social Security meme coin. So it kinda kills the markets for meme coins in some way. Just interesting to think about.

43:49Rod Palmer So what was your final, prediction for the amount of of meme coins? 340,000,000?

43:55Richard Greaser Over 340,000,000. That's just the full

43:58Rod Palmer Alright. So I I think that I follow your your your logic exactly. So I my number, my prediction is the same, 340,000,000. My next question is, is Pleditor gonna be able

44:17Rod Palmer to report all 340,000,000 meme coins to the SEC as unlicensed securities

44:29Rod Palmer by December 31 at 11:50PM or 11:59PM. Will he be able to

44:36Richard Greaser report enough per day? I think he will. I think he'll be able to automate it a lot with some of these new tools that are coming out. I think Pierre Richard is gonna be auditing the meme coins, but I don't think it's gonna make a difference. You know, there's all these people that have issued pre mined coins that are flushed with lots of cash, that have a shitload of lobbying power in Washington, and they're begging for regulatory

45:05Richard Greaser clarity, which just means they're trying to buy politicians to pass

45:14Richard Greaser favorable regulation for them to be able to engage in their shitcoin shenanigans. And, you know, he can like, you Gary Gensler is out. Donald Trump and Melania both launched meme coins.

45:29Richard Greaser I think that's pretty clear, and they're gonna be issuing every citizen of The United States a meme coin. I I think, you know, if you're a Bitcoin maximalist and you're anti shitcoin, the only

45:44Richard Greaser route forward for you to, like, really keep your morals and to pass your own purity test that you continue to, you know, expect others to pass is to renounce your citizenship. But the problem with renouncing your citizenship

45:59Richard Greaser is then you become under you come under scrutiny. You know? And Elon Musk said that there's no way that Roger Ver will be pardoned for being unable to afford his taxes because he's not a citizen. He renounced his citizenship, so why would Donald Trump pardon him? So it really puts people between a rock and a hard place, which is either you have to either change

46:25Richard Greaser your values and embrace the shit coinery, or you have to renounce your citizenship and try to move to a country that empowers

46:38Richard Greaser your your Bitcoin maximalist beliefs, which I don't really think there will be one in the future. I think other countries are gonna do the same thing by launching meme coins for their citizens as well. And so yeah. I mean, it's a really tough position for people to to be in.

46:57Rod Palmer Yeah. What a creditor's gonna do. Well, if I'm gonna take the under, I don't think he's gonna be able to report them all. I think he's gonna grow either depressed and and give up, or I don't know if that's very likely. I think that Donald Trump will order an executive order to rate limit, creditors so that he

47:20Rod Palmer can't spam the government servers with unlicensed security notification or, you know, reports. The last prediction,

47:31Rod Palmer I wondered what you had for 2025, is which Bitcoiner on Twitter will be the first to call out or accuse Ross of shit coining? Sorry. Say that one more time. Which Bitcoin Twitter person or influencer will be the first to call out Ross for being a shit coiner

47:53Rod Palmer or for shit coining?

47:55Richard Greaser I think that both Dick Whitman and Platteter already have tweets drafted. They have all these different scenarios that they've workshopped,

48:07Richard Greaser and they're just waiting for whichever one to happen. So they they already preemptively called them out. They just haven't published it yet. Right. That Clutter was awaiting confirmation

48:20Rod Palmer that Ross benefited financially from his NFT drawing that his mom sold with the help of Bitcoin magazine, as soon as he can get any on chain any on chain

48:33Rod Palmer data evidence to confirm a Tether transfer to Ross, he will be reporting in as a shipwinder immediately. Yeah. So, Pledder, I think we so it's it's either Pledder or I'll go stick with Dick Whitman. I think I'll take Pledder. Alright. Just just to be, just to be contrary, I'm gonna choose Dick Whitman. I mean, Dick Whitman is a real possibility because

48:57Rod Palmer he does, he's gonna get the most jealous about girls thinking that Ross Ulbrich is hot. He's, you can already tell that, he thinks he's cooler than Ross and he's gonna be pretty upset if if Ross gets

49:12Richard Greaser more babe attention. Totally. Do you think that Satoshi Action

49:18Rod Palmer will launch a meme coin? No. No. I do not think so. I think that Dennis is committed to Bitcoin only, and he will he will I mean, if he can't if he can't stay Bitcoin only, I don't know who can. Which of

49:37Richard Greaser the top Bitcoin maximalists do you think will fall and begin shitcoin in this cycle?

49:45Rod Palmer I think the obvious I think it's gonna be Saylor. I think right now we don't have any evidence. He's only started to say crypto and digital assets without saying Bitcoin only afterwards. I think it's only a matter of time. I just don't know,

50:04Rod Palmer I don't know which coin it will be. Maybe the launch of their own meme coin, but I think,

50:10Richard Greaser I think Michael Saylor is the first to go. The biggest to go. Well, let me ask you those questions. So I I think a lot of people are probably struggling with this episode with the news that we're delivering to people. I know it's it's a massive shift. So the majority of Americans, they have all their money in meme coins already. I would argue that equities in the stock market are meme coins. They're just company meme coins. I would argue that

50:38Richard Greaser government bonds are just government meme coins. Are we really is this really that bad of a you can argue about doing it on Solana. Maybe there's a better way to to roll out the infrastructure of these meme coins. But doesn't this make more sense to issue

50:57Richard Greaser all the citizens meme coins and have them try to build value and equity in themselves and in their brand

51:08Richard Greaser instead of buying government and corporate meme coins and having their entire savings based

51:18Richard Greaser or built into the companies and growing the value of the companies that are essentially keeping them stuck in the fiat ras the fiat ras raise.

51:32Rod Palmer Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. I do. I think that that is the best solution. I think that the government's always gonna try to pick winners and losers. It's always going to pick its favorite contractors, its favorite consultants, the people in the the Discord servers, the Diddy Crypto Diddy party Discord servers.

51:53Rod Palmer The best way that you can do what you're saying is to start a Bitcoin podcast. You control your equity, you control your future, and you can exchange in the value for value community based off of that,

52:09Rod Palmer that cash flow, that sats flow, and that equity, and you can make sure you can try to do it as much on chain as possible instead of using one of these blockchains or one of these inefficient

52:26Rod Palmer layer twos that they're gonna try to put you on instead. Yeah. It's really decentralizing

52:33Richard Greaser retirement, which is very interesting. Yeah. Decentralizing

52:36Rod Palmer retirement and decentralizing equity and decentralizing

52:44Richard Greaser network effects. I saw this statistic somewhere, and I don't remember where, but it said that thirty percent of retirees blow their entire Social Security checks on slot machines at casinos. And I think the only reason why that number isn't higher

53:03Richard Greaser is because there's not enough Indian reservations around the country to allow everybody to do that. Not everybody's in a close enough proximity to a casino to blow all their retirement savings.

53:18Rod Palmer Online gambling, neemcoin gambling, Trump Trump Neem Coins, Trump's he's got, Truth Social, the,

53:28Rod Palmer there's a stock, the DJT stock, Polygon. Yeah, they're they're yeah, they're gonna gamble it. They're gonna gamble it online. The future of senior citizens gambling away their their social security checks is

53:46Rod Palmer is wrapped.

53:47Richard Greaser It's unwrapped Bitcoin. I agree. Yeah. I mean, they're gonna they're gonna gamble their meme coin proceeds on Polymarket.

53:56Rod Palmer Yeah. That's I mean, that's that that boils it down. That is why Donald Trump is building this massive, you know, reserve of wrapped

54:08Rod Palmer Bitcoin. And that's why Michael Saylor is building this massive reserve of MicroStrategy, which is in itself just wrapped Bitcoin. What Michael Saylor's doing and what MicroStrategy doing is they are creating a liquidity

54:24Rod Palmer for for senior citizens to gamble their Social Security checks on insurance, on,

54:37Rod Palmer you know, bonds, on things that they like, that's gonna keep that afloat, and the wrapped Bitcoin on chain on on different blockchains is gonna create that liquidity for younger people who don't own as many bonds, they don't own as much real estate to gamble there, you know, they're not going to get social security, but they're going to get, universal basic income so they can gamble their universal basic income check on meme coins. Well, I think the question so here's our predictions.

55:07Richard Greaser The question I have for the listener, let us know in the booths or or shoot us a message. Is this the future you wanna live in? Is this what you're satisfied with? Is this what you listen to Bitcoin podcast?

55:21Rod Palmer Yeah. Is this is is the when when when you thought about Bitcoin winning in the future, well, Bitcoin has already won. Is this the

55:28Richard Greaser is this what you expected it to be? Yeah. I mean, are you satisfied with this? And if you're not, then what do you do about it? I'm interested in hearing what our listeners think. You know, if you if you don't agree with this feature that we're entering into, what do you do? I've got I've got my set of solutions. I think I think

55:50Richard Greaser the the future will only be bright in orange if more people podcast and more people smoke cigarettes. I think those are the two keys. But I don't wanna I don't wanna be too opinionated here. I don't I don't want this turning into a CNN panel of lecturing our listeners. So, yeah, let us know what you think. Alright. Let's get let's go ahead. I was just gonna ask, did you do you have did you have anything before we hop into the boost

56:17Rod Palmer and take a look at this? Yeah. I just have one more thing, and it it's kinda related to the boost. So if, you know, we're coming together, the announcement will come be coming out soon, but we we we partnered with PodConf, you know, we we always said we can't get rid of the shitcoiners and everybody else, but

56:38Rod Palmer one thing we all can agree on is forty hours of Bitcoin podcast will change the world. So the, you know, if you've seen the hashtag forty h p w with the headphones, we're spreading the message for the the forty hours per week brand. And if you would, you know, normally maybe come to give us a boost for a few thousand sats, a few 100 sats, whatever that's worth to you,

57:04Rod Palmer if it would be worth it to you to put the ad 40 that hashtag 40 HPW into your, Twitter handle or your Noster handle to spread awareness for that. Consider that is in a lieu at a boost on fountain, but, only do it if, you know, the bugle and listening to Bitcoin podcast for forty hours per week has has benefited you and you truly do support it. Oh, that reminds me. You have a new t shirt. You have your first t shirt that you launched. Yes. Yes. The t shirt is on Orange label, and look for the, look for that link

57:40Rod Palmer in the show notes, and it's the forty hours per week, Silk Road commemorative Marlboro cigarette, inspired art,

57:54Rod Palmer to kind of celebrate Ross with the Silk Road and the, forty hours per week brand on there, so check that out. It's very cool. I ordered my

58:04Richard Greaser shirt. I'm waiting excitedly for it to show up. I just think you know, you wanna go to the Bitcoin meetup, and you want people to know that you're not a loser. You're not there to talk about Cardano

58:19Richard Greaser and tell people why they're wrong, who have listened to a million more hours of Bitcoin podcasts than you have. You want them to know that you've listened to a million more Bitcoin podcasts

58:33Richard Greaser than they have and that you're really in tune with what's going on. If you want a status symbol, it is the 40 HPW shirt. You walk in the meetup,

58:46Richard Greaser instant street cred. Heads will turn. They'll say, wow. Where'd you get that shirt from? And then they'll you'll show them, and then they won't buy it because they're not cool enough. And so you'll be the only one at the meetup over and over again that's wearing this shirt. I mean, what what would you compare it to? Like, what what's a good status symbol in the Fiat? Like, walking in with yeah. What what are some good comparisons

59:15Richard Greaser here?

59:16Rod Palmer It'd be like walking in with, you know, a FISH t shirt from the tour that, you know, in 1994 there's only so many shirts or, you know, Grateful Dead or

59:31Rod Palmer Widespread Panic or, Uncoverable Misfits hoodie, I guess that would be in the Bitcoin meetup, not the regular world, but

59:44Rod Palmer yeah, what about you? Yeah. I mean,

59:47Richard Greaser I I think I think it would be like walking in with, like, a Super Bowl T shirt or, like, a Super Bowl commemorative hat or jersey. You know? Because not a lot of people can afford to go to the Super Bowl. Those tickets are really expensive. They cost thousands of dollars.

1:00:06Richard Greaser And instead of showing that you shorted Bitcoin by buying a Super Bowl ticket, you're gonna show that you longed Bitcoin by listening to thousands and thousands and thousands

1:00:19Richard Greaser of hours of Bitcoin podcasts every week. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts a week, but thousands over a period of years.

1:00:27Rod Palmer Oh, yeah.

1:00:29Richard Greaser It really is the mark of a proof of proof of work. So I would highly encourage head over to Orange Mart. The website is or sorry. Orangelabel.orangelabel.co. Look for the 40 HPW T shirt. I think how many how many shirts do you think we've sold? This is the first time we're announcing the launch. I think you might have done

1:00:55Richard Greaser a post on Twitter.

1:00:57Rod Palmer I I don't know. I haven't checked it yet, but I think, I think it's at least 30. We'll have to link the shirt

1:01:04Richard Greaser specifically because all I'm seeing is comply gear. We'll have to talk to the person running this website about getting

1:01:15Richard Greaser it featured on the front because I think the 40 HPW shirt should be right there. Yeah. We'll talk about that.

1:01:22Rod Palmer But we'll get into the boost here. First one was from fundamentals rock paper Bitcoin. He's the man, but on here a couple times, you know who he is by now. A 100,000

1:01:36Rod Palmer sat, so huge boost. Baller boost by fundamentals. Thank you so much. B roll for life, never change. That's what I like to see. People paying me 100,000 sats until they

1:01:49Richard Greaser they have no complaints. Do not Yep. Appreciate the baller boost. That's why Uncoverable Misfits calls it. They call it baller boost when they're big boost. Thank you, Fundamentals. $61.00 twos for $38,000 cents says,

1:02:03Richard Greaser need your macro base case for the predictions. So I think we did that in the episode pretty well. I think we're Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, that's

1:02:12Rod Palmer yeah. I don't I don't think either of us would even they can do a prediction section without giving our macro base case as that is the foundation. So thank you so much. Sixty one zero two, The next one from anonymous, the Bitcoin bugle is what gives life meaning, 400 sats. So, wow, that's pretty cool. The anonymous organization, the people who hacked the CIA, hacked the feds,

1:02:39Rod Palmer they really like the Bitcoin view. I hope that's not, Trump, that's not a, you know, a negative thing. I hope the feds aren't listening. Well, the feds are listening. There there's no

1:02:50Richard Greaser I don't think there's any way to prevent that, unfortunately. But, you know, I just lost my tab.

1:02:59Rod Palmer If I could read the last one, it's, BTC onboard hashtag l enhance hashtag board c t b, boost of 300 sats, three lightning bolt emojis, and a fire emoji. Thank you, BTC onboard. Did you wanna go through the the shit coin boost

1:03:15Richard Greaser or no? We've been getting some,

1:03:17Rod Palmer Monero boost. Yeah. Go ahead, and you can read those read those. I said that I would not dox them. So Let me,

1:03:24Richard Greaser let me see real quick. I wanna open up my cake wallet and see how many USDT worth of Monero is in there. The one thing that's interesting about Monero wallet so I'm not running a node. I'm just using the cake wallet

1:03:43Richard Greaser on my typewriter. But every time you open the wallet, it takes a little bit for it to sync, which is interesting. Alright. So going through the Monero boost on xmrchat.com/bugle, Our first boost, this is last week, was from Linkin Park rules. Says, hopefully, you guys can continue to report on Monero objectively when you're knee deep in XMR chats. I have yet to be added to any XMR chats. I don't really know

1:04:13Richard Greaser how much I would engage in there or really care to because there there's so much to be unpacked in the world of Bitcoin, and I honestly think Monero is gonna be kind of a short term fad. My hope is that we can bring we can make Bitcoin interesting to use again. But, anyways, thanks for the boost. Little Soprano

1:04:36Richard Greaser says Dodge Joe. I don't know what that means, but thank you, Lil Soprano. And then we have a user maybe this is Pies. I don't know. A heart cigarette emoji for $11,

1:04:51Richard Greaser and their boost is strong-arm, prayer hands, and kissy face. Alright. Thank you.

1:05:02Richard Greaser Anonymous tipper for just over a dollar. Yeah. I mean, this is one of the cool things about Monero. I I I will say that I've been impressed with is that you can smell or you can send small transactions

1:05:18Richard Greaser inexpensively. I guess that's one of the benefits of of having a network that there's not a lot of value on. But anonymous tipper says, gonna use this as an anonymous tip line. Check out count BTC pod this AM. So this is last week. Exclusive dentist content.

1:05:36Richard Greaser So I actually did check out that podcast and then got distracted about ten minutes in. So I never saw the exclusive dentist content. So if you, whoever anonymous tipper is, could

1:05:52Richard Greaser send that to me with a time stamp, that'd be kinda interesting. Another boost from cigarette heart emoji says this is for your smoking hot producer. Come back. We're desperate. I think I have a plan to bring Kaylee back. I've been having some preliminary conversations about her coming back.

1:06:14Richard Greaser I think she was excited that we started taking Monero, so we'll see what happens. And then one more boost from cigarette heart says, great work, guys. Anyways, thank you for those

1:06:29Richard Greaser Monero boosts. We have decided to shitcoin a little or at least I kinda this is my decision, so don't get mad at rock. You're mad at me. If you're mad, I'm shitcoining.

1:06:40Rod Palmer I I I am totally willing to accept Monero. I just haven't created my wallets yet. I have to watch some tutorials, but,

1:06:52Richard Greaser you know Yeah. I'm sure Seth for privacy would be happy to get you set up. One thing that's kinda weird about these Monero wallets is you're connected to a bunch of different nodes,

1:07:05Rod Palmer which They're probably in the Pentagon.

1:07:08Richard Greaser Yeah. I I think either likely in chain analysis is offices or the Pentagon or chain analysis is offices in the Pentagon.

1:07:20Rod Palmer Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. What that wraps up this week. The future is wrapped. Wrapped Bitcoin, shitcoins,

1:07:33Rod Palmer Bitcoin on shitcoins. You can, you can be upset. Like, you know, it's it's it's okay to be upset about it, but it's better to instead of being upset about what isn't,

1:07:47Rod Palmer just accept what is and try to stay humble and stack wrapped sats.

1:07:55Richard Greaser Everybody. Thanks for tuning in.

1:07:58Rod Palmer On behalf of the Bugle news team, I wanna thank you for listening to this production of the Bugle Weekly. The politicians are shit coining in Washington, but does that come as a surprise? You saw this coming from a mile away because you heard about it first months ago on this podcast. We all know that Nancy Pelosi has been shit coining with corporate meme coins for decades, amassing an incredible amount of wealth. What happens when the politicians seek to pump and dump each other in meme coin warfare?

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