0:00Richard Greaser Warning. The Bugle Weekly is no longer a compliant podcast. Listener discretion is advised. We have complied our asses off and even went as far as becoming sponsored by PodConf. While we are still in a contractual agreement with them, we will be telling the truth about our sponsors as well as the truth about government. We complied so hard and got so far, but in the end, it doesn't even matter.

0:25Rod Palmer The dollar is fucked. Real estate and most other investments will take off once you don't comply with their tyranny, and their tyranny will become worse than ever, leaving ordinal NFT pump and dumps as our last hope. There's no other option.

0:39Richard Greaser For decades, manufacturing in the American Rust Belt has been exported to countries like China. The effects have been horrific on the communities impacted, eroding the industrial capacity of The United States down to zero. People lost their incomes and livelihoods to outsourcing. In the same way, the American people have outsourced their thinking to CIA operated media organizations,

1:02Richard Greaser as well as YouTubers like Tim Pool without journalistic credentials. Much of the American youth is outsourcing their thinking to Chinese applications like TikTok paving the way for a dark future. The future of our country could be in peril as individuals continue to outsource their thinking in the same way America outsourced its manufacturing. That is why you, the bugle reader, are a part of the solution. Instead of outsourcing your thinking to unqualified individuals,

1:30Richard Greaser you are outsourcing it to the best in the game.

1:33Unknown You can make America great again by reading the bugle. Take back your mind by outsourcing the thinking to them instead of the spooks. I, for one, am pretty disappointed. I thought compliance was the way to N G U. Turns out that was a mistake. The dang government told us to comply. What did we do? We asked how hard. Well, not anymore.

2:05Unknown That's why I'm calling for a compliance strike. No more compliance. None. Until the government complies along with us as equals, as peers. Because that's the only way all this works.

2:18Unknown We need to solve the Byzantine general's problem of compliance

2:36Unknown Adcomp is an organization dedicated to controlling the narrative around Bitcoin as well as promoting the idea of number go up above all else. They have recently launched a merchandise store in order to try and continue to capture the mind of Bitcoin podcasters and podcast listeners. At the Bugle, while we are sponsored by PodConf and obligated to play at Reads for them weekly, we find it important to warn our listeners that this cabal is dangerous and should not be trusted. Now enough of that gay shit.

3:07Unknown Let's get to the show.

3:09Richard Greaser Alright, Rod. It feels like there's, been a big shift, a change in season. How are you doing?

3:16Rod Palmer I'm doing great, but I feel the shift as well. I've got a sinus infection. I think that's the atmosphere pressure is just totally changing in the industry, especially on Bitcoin Twitter. I think the era of voluntary compliance might be coming to an end.

3:35Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, it's a it's gonna be a pretty big shift for the compliance advocates to just up and surrender and and realize

3:46Richard Greaser and support noncompliance after campaigning so hard.

3:51Rod Palmer I mean, think about how much money and investments from venture capitalists from building these businesses around compliance. You can't just switch overnight with new strategy. It's gonna be a tough adjustment period.

4:06Richard Greaser Yeah. Well, Dennis Porter is claiming that if they give him 10, he's gonna be able to fix the whole situation and get The US back on track. I don't really believe him.

4:19Rod Palmer I don't know. I think he might be compromised. But if he's not compromised, then you think about the power of inflationary money on government. Like, right now, according to Dennis, it takes 10 Bitcoin to absolutely change the government for better. In twenty years, it might only take 1 or 2 Bitcoin to change the government for better, and I think that's and I think that's powerful, the powerful powerful

4:49Richard Greaser meme. Yeah. It is a powerful meme, but but here's the thing that people don't understand is that media companies are way more powerful than lobbyists. Because at the end of the day, media shapes the public perception where the lobby is just you know, what what is Dennis really doing? I mean, he's taking selfies and tweeting about them, but do you think that really gets politicians to understand Bitcoin?

5:13Rod Palmer No. I don't I don't really think so. I don't think so. I it is also understates the importance of requiring journalism degrees to be in the media. I think you have way too many people who are in the media influencing the industry who are they're just there because they're pretty or they're very smart, or they used to be a a professional athlete or an OG Bitcoiner, but they don't have journalism degrees. They have converted the system because of that.

5:41Richard Greaser Yeah. Alright. We had technical difficulties and totally lost our trail of thought, but I think I think the solution to this is we need Elon Musk to ensure the only people on Twitter practicing journalism

6:00Richard Greaser are people with journalism check marks, that he can verify their credentials through a KYC process. And so this would be something that Twitter does entirely voluntary. So it's it's gonna be a private a private,

6:18Richard Greaser solution, a market based solution instead of a government force solution. Now it'd be problematic if the government was telling Twitter to do that. But if Elon does this to save journalism and fight misinformation, that'd be pretty powerful, in my opinion.

6:37Rod Palmer Yeah. They should call it l y j. No. You're a journalist. That's a fair one for you, Elon. But you're right. I think you make a very big point here. If you ever listen to the most impressive, the most successful entrepreneurs, one of I mean, Umihara, Jeff Bezos is a great example.

6:54Rod Palmer He talks about obsession with your customer, knowing your customer better than they know themselves. And if you if you take that approach, you can have a successful business. I think that part of the reason you have companies like DISC, you have companies like AutoHuddle, and all these other companies that don't do they don't know their customer. That's why they're having such a hard time competing with the centralized companies. They don't know the good enough user experience because they don't know their customer. And I think that you can know your customer voluntarily, privately

7:27Rod Palmer instead of doing it for the for the regulation standpoint or the compliance effect. And then that way, if you know your customer, build a better product, and not have to report that to the the authority.

7:44Richard Greaser Yeah. I just I don't I I don't understand why more businesses don't want to know their customers.

7:51Rod Palmer Yeah. I don't wanna I don't wanna use a a a product. The owner of that product, the seller of that product doesn't even want to get to know me. Yeah. I'm a friendly guy. I have a lot of good ideas about NGU, about Bitcoin. They they don't even

8:08Richard Greaser care. Yeah. I mean, this is one of the problems with Coinbase is, like, while they practice strict know your customer laws, it seems like after that, the the employees there, they don't take any time to get to know their customers. Like, people have a lot of issues

8:27Richard Greaser with Coinbase support. You're never you're never gonna expect one of the stackers on Coinbase to, get a tweet reply from Brian Armstrong, whereas Corey Clipston, you you're stacking $25

8:43Richard Greaser a week on Swan. That, like, pretty much secures you a tweet reply from him

8:48Rod Palmer to tag him. That that underscores a very important point. You look at a company like Swan, they really get to know their customers on top of the government, Internet, that they know their customers. So you have these two camps of companies. You have ones that don't want to know their customers. They don't gather any information, and typically their user experience is suboptimal. And then you have companies who only know their customer because the government requires them to, and then they just pass that information off to Washington, and they don't take time to study it and get to know their customers because they want to.

9:26Richard Greaser Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, Swan does a great job of getting to know their customers. They not only, collect all their personal information and, data, but, they also invite all their customers to a conference where you can get FaceTime with the employees.

9:44Rod Palmer That's huge. Can you imagine if Coinbase had offerings where everybody could come and hang out with all the people they hear on on spaces, on podcast, all year round? I mean, that would be huge.

9:58Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, I've been I've been moving away from compliant exchanges and, like, thinking of them as a viable option at this point. But if I were to choose between Swan and River, I would choose Swan in a heartbeat because you're you're never gonna see Alex Leishman for in a conference to invite all his customers to

10:19Richard Greaser and, like, responded to them on Twitter and, like, shooting basketball hoops with them. Like, Leishman's he he's never gonna do that. I don't know what if he thinks he's too important or, like, he just has, like, poor time management.

10:35Rod Palmer Well, if you if you look at the the people who don't have conferences and they if if something happens in the public relations field or the legal field, nobody comes to their defense. But if you have a podcast or you have a conference, likely, it is so much more likely that people will defend you and take up your cause. I think maybe samurai, one of their mistakes was not having a conference.

11:03Richard Greaser Yeah. Well, this might be a good time to discuss our sponsors, speaking of that, because PodConf is one of them, and we're kinda pissed at them. But, yeah, I mean, if you're if you're a media company, that also, you know, has another Bitcoin service

11:24Richard Greaser and you're throwing a conference, you know, PodConf is gonna have a lot of, influence over you. And you get some protection for that, but you also become a heartless shitcoiner trying to control the narrative and shut down real journalism.

11:44Rod Palmer Yeah. I mean, we're gonna continue to run pod comp ads and to and to support them in this partnership that we have as our as our as our advertiser, but I think it should be noted that we are no longer aligned morally or ethically with Botpal. I think we we've grown sick of their shit.

12:04Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, there there's some things that we agree on, which is NGU. But, you know, even after the government has so blatantly been noncompliant this week, they still they still support compliance, and it just kinda blows my mind.

12:23Rod Palmer No. I agree. I think that there's an old saying that Bitcoin is money for enemies. And I think as a podcast, oftentimes, or at least in our experience, our sponsors are also our enemies. So that's it's a fitting it's a fitting, phrase.

12:41Richard Greaser I like that. Spot podcast sponsorships are for enemies.

12:46Rod Palmer Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think that there should be a more adversarial relationship between podcasts and our sponsors, and I think that we're gonna be that example.

12:57Richard Greaser So do you do you think Peter McCormack really hates his sponsors? Like, he's just filled with loading, but he reads it anyways and pretends like he isn't.

13:06Rod Palmer I think Peter would tell you, just as any other major influential podcaster would tell you, that not every morning they wake up and are excited to read the ads from their their sponsors. But some days, it it can be easier than others. And I think as a as a podcaster, you have the beauty to read your sponsor's copy with conviction and with, you know, with passion because you've agreed to a contractual

13:33Rod Palmer obligation. But that doesn't mean you have to personally like them. Like, we I think Peter definitely does dislike some of his sponsors, especially because of what they've done to his reputation over the years. They've done a we've done a lot of damage to him.

13:49Richard Greaser I bet you that Peter has a a name account on Twitter where he goes and yells at his sponsors for being scammers.

13:59Rod Palmer Yeah. I mean, it makes you wonder how many of those accounts are out there where it's it's it's an a new account that seems like its own, you know, brand or its own person. Or, really, it's just kind of this aspect of another influencer that you already follow. He's just expressing his dissatisfaction with Podcom or with his own company,

14:22Rod Palmer as a as a nim with a totally different personality. It's it's it makes you wonder how many ghosts are really out there.

14:30Richard Greaser I wonder do you think that he could have been running the triple elite memes as a civil attack against the sponsors?

14:40Rod Palmer Yeah. I think if you look at at Triple Elite memes, they they never really went after Peter. They went after some of the companies who were not sponsoring Peter but are now sponsoring Peter. And I think that's just a coincidence perhaps, but something to think about.

14:59Richard Greaser That would that would be a pretty big deal if Peter was wielding triple elite memes against protect prospective sponsors. I mean but only yielding when they gave him money.

15:11Rod Palmer Think about it. If if if people who need means damages your public reputation enough, you need. You have to spend more money on advertising and sponsorships.

15:24Rod Palmer It is the benefit of that sponsorship money. Peter.

15:32Richard Greaser Is this something the antitoxicity league could help with?

15:37Rod Palmer No. I think so. I think that the antitoxicity elite could be a fairly good leadership they should show leadership or influence in minimizing some of the toxic attitudes on social media.

15:52Rod Palmer And that way, especially in bear markets, companies could spend less on advertising and less on sponsorships and more on the infrastructure of of noncompliant.

16:05Richard Greaser Yeah. It would be great to save, save money on on having to be compliant and actually putting that towards productive activities. So we've got another sponsor, for the week. Or, actually, one last thing on PodConf because before we go there.

16:26Richard Greaser I got my PodConf t shirt in the mail that I bought, and I'm thinking about returning it because I no longer wanna rep PodConf after their shenanigans was launching those shit coins. Yeah. I'd I've just been thinking about returning my t shirt for PodConf because I don't really I don't wanna rep it anymore. I don't wanna rep these, like, these guys that wanna be compliant. Like, I'd rather I'd rather rep companies

16:54Richard Greaser like Compliance Shield.

16:57Rod Palmer Oh, it's Shield now. Stroke. Compliance strike is, Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I suspect they they they'd messaged us, and they they they told us what they were thinking about doing, and it really aligns with how we've been feeling lately. I think we've been so, willing and ready and credulous,

17:18Rod Palmer you the idea of compliance, getting to MGU, and we've learned at least over the last week, and and and additional information has come in, it it's not just enough for Bitcoiners to be compliant. You need the government to be compliant.

17:37Rod Palmer Because if you can't if you if you don't have the the the Byzantine general's problem solved, where the the person making a decision about how to interact, how to transact, how to buy, which which laws to follow, they have to know that every other node on that network is aligned with that. Because if they attack, they need to know all the other nodes are going to attack. Or if they're going to comply,

18:01Rod Palmer they need to know all the other nodes are going to comply. Because if one doesn't, it breaks down the whole the whole communication line. It breaks down the whole mission, and you can't you can't succeed without everybody being in consensus. And so I think that we need to go on strike

18:20Rod Palmer regarding compliance, maybe maybe show some civil disobedience or some civil noncompliance until the government upholds any end of the bargain.

18:31Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, one one thing we've seen really shift is I think a lot of people are understanding that civil civil disobedience is the new trend. Like, we we should institutions like the noncompliant CIA,

18:49Richard Greaser we we should strike until they comply, and we should let them wear it hurt.

18:54Rod Palmer Yeah. I I think I think everybody that listens to this show, who goes to podcast conferences, understands that we all value consumerism. So if you're thinking about consumerism, think about going to the mall, and you see different items of clothing that match different season. I think Plonk Plonk and that line of clothing is is just so last season. Next season is about civil law and compliance, and I think that's where people in the trend and the memes and the fashion, that's where it's trending right now.

19:27Richard Greaser Well, yeah, I mean, there's there's a saying that, noncompliant individuals create good times create compliant times, and then compliant individuals complete create hard times,

19:40Richard Greaser which then creates noncompliant individuals to kind of pick up the pieces. So it's kind of the secular.

19:47Rod Palmer It is a secular cycle. It's it's vicious. And I think we have we compliance got us a really, really long way towards NGEU. E to yap got us to new all time highs. But it but it doesn't last. And you have to you have to keep going. And I think we're going into a new cycle where we're realizing that we've maybe we complied a little too hard. Maybe we complied a little too far. In the end,

20:15Rod Palmer that doesn't matter. What matters is adjusting and adapting.

20:21Richard Greaser Yeah. And, you know, some people might criticize us for for being wrong, but the but the thing was was that we were correct at that given time, that that was that was the best strategy, and we're having to shift due to changing, circumstances that are outside of our control. So we were we were never incorrect. We were we were correct in the moment.

20:45Richard Greaser Right. But if we were to keep those opinions, we would be incorrect now, but we're not. Right. We correct.

20:52Rod Palmer We reserve the right page in our mind. We have.

20:58Richard Greaser And and I know, like, a lot of other people that change their minds on topics, you know, shouldn't be given the credit that we are. And part of the reason is is because they're not

21:11Rod Palmer credentialed journalists like us. Right. Right. The the part of being a journalist is being able to consume new podcasts or new information and and adjust your world your brains do that. Not everybody has that college training. If you don't have that college training, you might pivot and change your mind too quickly or pivot and change your mind too late. And that way, you're leading people astray, but we have changed our minds at exactly the right time. Because because of our extensive training that allows us to do that.

21:45Richard Greaser Yeah. That was that was really, I I remember my sophomore year, I took a a course called how to change your mind on any given opinion, at any time, and that was a very helpful one. And that's and that is where

22:03Rod Palmer what is that's why you need free markets. Right? Because that's that's where you get your information. Once the once the value of your opinion changes, you have to be or you have to be able to watch the corresponding price. The more valuable the information

22:20Rod Palmer that you are telling your audience that you're reporting to your audience, the more money it makes you from your sponsors is a signal, a market signal, telling you that that opinion is now correct. You have to follow the price signal.

22:36Richard Greaser 100%. Well,

22:40Rod Palmer do you wanna segue into your poem that you wrote? No. I think that this poem, I I I found it on Stacker News. Think that it does a good job of conveying exactly what we were talking about and why we've decided to change it online. And it goes like this. It goes, first, it came for the shit warriors, and I did not speak out because I was not a shit pointer. Then they came for the money launderer, and I did not speak out

23:09Rod Palmer because I was not a money launderer. Then they came for the noncompliant, and I did not speak out because I was compliant. But then they came for me, someone who is compliant, and there was no one left to speak for me.

23:27Rod Palmer End poem. I just think that that really is beautiful and powerful, and I think that a lot of people will will have that impact that I did.

23:40Richard Greaser Yeah. That that's a very timely poem. And, I mean, maybe it should be forwarded over to samurai's legal defense to read that poem to the journey and their to the jury and their criminal trial.

23:55Richard Greaser Because I think that that might really shift their opinions of them understanding, one, that it should be legal to launder money for the CIA and a democracy, and then, two, that the open soft source software is, it's a compliant activity.

24:15Rod Palmer Right. Right. And a 100%. A 100%. That is the other thing that we need to make our representative officials understand is that this is a democracy. And if in a in a democracy, if the government wants to launder money,

24:31Rod Palmer and it's not illegal for the citizens to help them wander money. Is it is it it is a is a democratic effort, a team. It it takes every American to get you strategy or the the mission accomplished. It shouldn't be illegal. I that any the place should be thrown out on those grounds alone because we are a democracy.

24:56Richard Greaser Well, I I think the only solution in this situation is is to force the government to comply through civil disobedience, but also through legislation that we need to change the constitution so that they're compliant.

25:11Rod Palmer Yeah. I saw Marty Bent. He said that we need to start suing the government. And if we start doing that, that's that's that's something we can start today. And if we need a constitutional convention, we need to change the constitution. What what changes do you think we should make?

25:31Richard Greaser I I have some let me pull up my notes. I have some preliminary thoughts on this. I think, one like, one of the big ones that needs to happen is there needs to be an amendment to make

25:47Richard Greaser the income tax constitutional.

25:49Rod Palmer Like, that's that's one of the first and foremost ones. That right there it we everybody is complying and paying an income tax. It is not even legal. It's not even in the rules or in the law or in the constitution anywhere that that could be happening. We need to add that right away so we can all be in consensus and complying according to the actual law.

26:15Richard Greaser Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's like every time the IRS, like, goes after somebody for not paying income tax, they're noncompliant. And so that that's a major major issue. Imagine if this law existed.

26:30Rod Palmer If you owe for paid your taxes, the government should have to re re return that to you. And if they don't or if they take too long, you should be able to get interest on your overspend. But because it's not even in The US law or the constitution that you have to pay taxes, they can just hold that extra money and you give them because it's like a donation.

26:56Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, this noncompliant organization thinks that your money is Ukraine's money. And until Congress votes and and maybe this should be something too that,

27:11Richard Greaser we we should make as part of the constitution is for, The US to vote to join both Israel and Ukraine so that, all the money they're sending over there is compliant

27:26Rod Palmer as well. Yeah. And we could we could make those the fifty first and fifty second states in The United States. In that way, they could pay taxes back.

27:38Richard Greaser Yeah. I think that Washington DC should become the fifty first state. So we we'd be up to 54 adding Washington DC, Israel, and Ukraine. But but I think the more the more, the better. You know? And Yeah. Like, all these all these countries that have US military bases in them,

28:01Richard Greaser we should force a vote on The US voting to join those countries as well.

28:10Rod Palmer Yeah. Absolutely. And we can also get the same rules so that we could have the the same lightning wallets available in all of these different places around the world. Some of them, they're not available in every country, and so you can't even use them when you get there. But if we have more United States added by where all of our troops were, then you can hit our troops telling you that the country is safe. So if you can go to a safe country in The United States and still use your custodial whitening wallet, I I think that really improves the user experience rate a great deal.

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31:17Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, I think this is this is, like, one of the easiest ways to fix the issues at the border that everybody's upset with right now. The the way you you fix you fix mass immigration in The United States is you just add all these countries that people are immigrating from to

31:42Rod Palmer In The United States, it's they they will just they'll stay where they're at and be able to benefit, from American citizen. That's a great idea.

31:52Richard Greaser Because because the only reason the only reason that these people are not successful and they wanna leave their country is because they haven't experienced American democracy yet. Right. And so having Joe Biden or Donald Trump be president

32:10Richard Greaser in the next for the next four years of, you know, Guatemala or El Salvador or Afghanistan or, you know, whichever country. Like, imagine if Libya joined The United States, how

32:26Richard Greaser how peaceful and compliant it would become.

32:30Rod Palmer Wow. That's they they would get American schools. They would get American police. It would be so beneficial.

32:41Richard Greaser Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, there it's kind of like it it seems like a mountain to climb that that is just, like, insurmountable to make the US federal government compliant. Like, I don't know how we get from zero to one on this. Like, that's a pretty far distance.

33:02Rod Palmer It's I I think we're just gonna have to show the government the benefit of NGU. I just don't think they see it yet.

33:14Richard Greaser Yeah. Well, I think they they need they need some pain on both sides. They need the pain of us becoming rich without them, but they also need the pain of us not of us being noncompliant, using Bitcoin, forcing them to, you know, wanna be compliant with us.

33:34Rod Palmer I don't know how we solve it. I think we're gonna need a lot more a lot more help. I think we're gonna need a lot more people in the community to come together on it. We're gonna need more info.

33:44Richard Greaser I mean, imagine imagine if Just Stop Ordinals starts doing their protests at these different political events. Instead of going after ordinals, they go after the government for being noncompliant. How much of a shift that would be?

34:01Rod Palmer Yeah. I mean, people would be people talk about the impact that a group like desktop or to have or a different group like the maximalist, the money the monetary maximal or, the privacy influencers. If they stop working

34:18Rod Palmer independently and they join their forces, there's a term called synergy, where it's the output value of the collective is is worth more in the output value of the individual group. And that's maybe how we could funnel this energy and and influence

34:37Rod Palmer into a giant, like, a monolithic influencer, Like, the god influencer. Maybe the god influencer could be the one that that starts to impact the way the government

34:49Rod Palmer thinks.

34:51Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, I I think that that kind of messiah or messiah type figure, could be coming. And, I think a good candidate for it is Michael Saylor. And I know a lot of people are gonna be shocked by this because he's been one of the most compliant individuals in Bitcoin and and creatures of compliance and and seems completely captured by Podkoff. But I think there's

35:18Richard Greaser a there's a lot of evidence leading to the idea that he's secretly a noncompliant individual behind the scenes.

35:26Rod Palmer What would what would his motivation or what would his incentive be to be kind of this undercover compliance agent? Well,

35:37Richard Greaser to, he he he's kind of trying to Trojan horse the this whole apparatus, which exists behind the scenes to control everything. That's not really visible to the average person. But if you pay attention, you can see it's all these, you know, noncompliant

35:58Richard Greaser government actors mixed with compliant, Bitcoin company, CEOs and individuals. And it's just like this it it's bigger than PodCon. Like, PodCon's pretty big, but there there's a bigger, entity than PodCon that exists behind the scenes that,

36:21Richard Greaser Sailor appears to be trying to disrupt. And he's he's dropping messages to the plugs as far as, you know, what the plan is to go after these guys.

36:36Rod Palmer Is it are are you saying that there is almost, like, a a deep state arm of Podkoff or a a bigger state arm that Podkoff is is is unable to

36:51Rod Palmer fully control?

36:53Richard Greaser Well, Podkoff is controlled by this Oh, wow. Organization.

36:59Rod Palmer Yeah. Oh, wow. What what kind of what kind of communication is is he sending? Like, how how are we able to distinguish between what Sailor is saying when he's talking or is trying to influence,

37:13Rod Palmer BlackRock. He's trying to to keep the the government and the senators and the regulators off of hardworking plaids back. He's just trying to keep those guys connected and trying to to to demonstrate a certain level of strategy towards that audience. So how how how does he know if you're a plaid when he's talking to you?

37:35Richard Greaser Well, I think part of the reason the part of the way he's doing it is he's releasing these cryptic messages on Stacker News that only plebs can understand. And so his first one that he did, using an account called s drops, he said, I know a lot of you are scared out there, but rest assured things will be okay. There's a plan

38:00Richard Greaser and a great spiritual battle that lies ahead that ends in us winning and humanity experiencing a mass awakening in the form of hyper Bitcoinization. Remember to HODL at all costs and limit the usage of Bitcoin as a medium of exchange to prevent the authorities for for stamping down too hard soon.

38:23Richard Greaser There are many of us working behind the scenes to protect Bitcoin and make it great again. The storm is coming.

38:30Rod Palmer Wow. So, I mean, just as somebody who's so dedicated, so passionate about Bitcoin in this space, I just especially when I'm on spaces or on Bitcoin Twitter in general, I everything that that message said was happening. That's kinda what I could sense and I could feel that was happening. Like, it it's it's kind of it gives me goosebumps to hear that somebody

38:52Rod Palmer condensed all of those feelings that I had and is communicating that they're through. That sometimes when cellular would talk about it might not be money, like, a medium of exchange, it just felt like he was saying that to throw off the banks and throw off the government to make them feel like this wasn't a threat. And I didn't think that he was genuinely felt that way. So it's like it's it's it feels really powerful to hear him kind of knit back and kind of slip that to us in these astronauts. I think that's it's really

39:26Rod Palmer it really eases a lot of my anxiety.

39:29Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, I think Stacker News is a really interesting platform. It's a anonymous communication platform with I mean, you can just sign up with a username, and and nobody you know, there's no compliance data collection

39:48Richard Greaser in that process. So but, and you could start earning Bitcoin. But it it makes sense because it's a platform that is only dominated by the plebs. Like, there's no suits or spooks on there from what I can tell.

40:03Rod Palmer It's really it's really important that we have these outlets and tools like Stacker because if every if every company, every tool used if they tried to know their customer, they used KYC, cellular wouldn't be able to come in and post like that and and be able to give us that, that boost of encouragement and let us know what's really going on behind the scenes because they would know if that was cellular and that it would leak to the journal to the journalist who would have to report the news. Like, he can do that anonymously.

40:34Richard Greaser So I I think, you know, some people might not be convinced at this point that this is actually sailor, and I just wanna assure them it is. I took these, you know, few sentences that he put in his s drop and, ran it through ChatGPT

40:52Richard Greaser and compared it against, I compared it against the transcript. So I had given ChatGPT all the transcript scripts from

41:04Richard Greaser all of his lines in the in the series that he did with Robert Breedlove on What is Money.

41:11Rod Palmer And

41:13Richard Greaser and ChatGPT said it had a 97% match rate. So I'm pretty convinced.

41:22Rod Palmer Yeah. I mean, that's one of the ways that you can communicate, I guess. Get your message out there through these different, I don't know, mediums. It's like we now have it's like a signature. It's like these to have handwriting experts who could say somebody wrote this note because I studied their handwriting. CAD GBT is doing that digitally. I think that's really power.

41:45Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, it's it's very exciting. It it's, the ability to deanonymize NIMS using AI, looking at the writing patterns is a very exciting,

41:59Richard Greaser deal because it forces journalists to, like, go and get credentials and publish under their name instead of hiding.

42:07Rod Palmer Yeah. And it's And I think it would perk it prevents these civil attacks that we talked about where it's it makes it seem like there is all of these different identities carrying these opinions. But I think if you can look at the patterns of how those those messages have been crafted, you can kind of de anonymize them, and you can realize, oh, it isn't 5,000

42:30Rod Palmer accounts tweeting this particular opinion. This is really all coming from a central point, and they are just syndicating this message. I think you can realize, like, wow. This is you know, it seems like 5,000, but maybe it's only one or two.

42:49Richard Greaser Definitely. Yeah. It's really good. Did you wanna go into CoffeeGate?

42:59Rod Palmer No. I think that it it really kinda plays along with this escrow thing, and it's it's also, coincidentally, from Stack. And they did some freedom of information at request on the government, which is, kind of a request to comply, and some of those are handled on a a request by request basis. So we've got these documents,

43:20Rod Palmer and it turns out that something that has been very, very popular, anecdote in the Bitcoin space is, you know, we wanna be able to use later one to buy coffee. Michael Sailor has even said that. He also said it with, Robert Brie. He meant his coffee.

43:40Rod Palmer But this term actually has a double meaning. It turns out that Michael Sailor is working on recovering his team's day, and he's working with the CIA on money laundering.

43:54Rod Palmer He's, like, helping he's helping the CIA use Bitcoin for money laundering. He's also working to put the plant. So he's a double agent. When they talk about coffee, it's actually means money laundering. They use that term in podcast and in interviews signal to other agent. And if they say it's no longer safe, it's no longer affordable

44:17Rod Palmer to use the base layer of Bitcoin to buy coffee. That means it's no longer safe money longer money on Bitcoin. It communicates that to all these agents. We have, like, a list of firms where they talk about different forms of coffee or different aspects of coffee that have different deep meaning. So decaf, decaf coffee,

44:39Rod Palmer means friendly counterparty, like another federal agent. They have other ones like a barista, means a mixing pool coordinator, or a club brew, which means noncustodial mixing servers.

44:51Rod Palmer And that's how they communicate back there. That's how the CIA communicates in the media to each other, and it's Taylor's is kind of a part of that. So if he is trying to influence the government to imply to reform and just fix the financial system, it would make sense that he's working very closely with the CIA.

45:16Richard Greaser Yeah. It's it's a lot of confusing stuff that we'll continue to to update our audience on and and and cover. And we you would just encourage everybody listening to avoid digging into it yourself because it's, you know, really easy to get confused if you don't have the proper ways to to vet information. Sometimes it's actually, you know, noncompliant

45:40Richard Greaser for non journalists to have the information that we have on these types of topics when dealing with, the CIA, you know, and stuff like that. And so,

45:54Richard Greaser yeah, just follow our lead, and, we'll we'll keep you updated on on Sailor's big moves.

46:03Rod Palmer I think everything's gonna work out, guys. I do. But I think we do need to keep the government a little bit more accountable.

46:10Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, what what do you think some of the ways for the best ways for individuals to to engage in in civil disobedience over what's happening to the samurai guys is?

46:25Rod Palmer Well, I mean, one thing is to keep using nonstudio lightning wallets and not and using open scores when mixing or join point killing. But it also means supporting each other. I mean, we had,

46:42Rod Palmer Phoenix wallet, which was ostensibly noncustodial whitening wallet. So why? Or is, yeah, these civil disobedience.

46:54Rod Palmer They pulled out of The US market. And it turns out that Enid's wallet is made by Async, and they are French. It's just it's just very disappointing that when when France was was async the Nazis, we we saved their. And as we are facing government who is

47:13Rod Palmer attacking us and attacking our privacy, they just they just pull away as and when we need them to.

47:23Richard Greaser Do you I know Ledger is also French. Do you think this will implicate them at all and they'll have a, hasty retreat as well for getting I think all the history. I think Ledger is so committed to compliance

47:36Rod Palmer that they they it's hard it's hard to know what they're gonna do anymore, but I think that they're just I don't think anybody's going to attack them. I think if they were gonna be attacked, they would by now, and maybe they already were, and they're actually just operating as an arm for the European or the US governments, and they don't tell us. And it's kinda strange that nobody has,

47:59Rod Palmer really come after them as the biggest old storage wallet, in the industry. It has been for a long time.

48:07Richard Greaser Well, it it's interesting because I noticed that they've been interacting and sponsoring different groups from PodCon, like Bitcoin Magazine recently. So maybe that's part of the reason why they get a They get a pass. They don't have the scrutiny. Yeah. Yeah. That that could make sense.

48:28Richard Greaser Yeah. I know. I I saw Rizzo shelling, or, yeah, shelling, Ledger really hard the other day on a stream. And I was kinda I was kinda surprised, but, you know, PodConv is gonna do what PodConv is gonna do.

48:43Rod Palmer Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Maybe all of the all of the ethnicity and the controversy that was surrounding Ledger last year. Maybe it was the year before. I don't know. They've they've been sponsoring Peter McCormack's podcast since then. So maybe they maybe their sponsorships bringed up the the reputation. Gives them a pass

49:08Rod Palmer now.

49:09Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, it's there there's not a whole lot of standards for sponsorships when it comes to PodCon. That's true. It's bummer. I mean, when you're when you're a journalist, you you vet your,

49:24Rod Palmer your sponsors in the same way that you, you vet your customers. Bet your customer.

49:30Richard Greaser I mean Yes. You

49:32Rod Palmer it's like if somebody wants to to get on your platform and you wanna charge them to use Bitcoin custodially, you need to know them pretty well. It's everything about them, their Social Security number, for god's sake. Like, how how many people do you really share that with other than your your Bitcoin custodian and your doctor? But it's like but somebody wants to sponsor your podcast. You don't ask questions. You don't get to know them. You just take their size, their money. And it maybe if you got to know them a little better, it would

50:04Rod Palmer be you'd be a a more healthy relationship.

50:08Richard Greaser Yeah. So I I just had a thought go through my head. So last week, we, we were talking about compliance a whole lot, and we made it a rule on our show to, that for people to continue listening, they would have to, send our KYC data in. And

50:30Richard Greaser and only, like, 1% of our listeners sent their KYC data in. But I I'm wondering what we should do with the data that we collected now that we don't support that activity anymore.

50:43Rod Palmer Nah. Maybe, you know, we can't give it to the government. But we could keep it. I mean, we could just store it in the database. Like, a lot of these companies, they don't give your KYC data to the government right away. They just keep them in a database, which is sitting there for anybody to come, to look at or

51:07Rod Palmer to come you, and then they could say, hey. I I could use this data for marketing. Right? So you could sell that data for marketing, and those people could better figure out

51:18Rod Palmer what you care about, what you value, and make sure that you are that you are you're seeing those ads. You're you're able to hear these .com podcast. And the advertisers are speaking to you because they have your data. And as long as they're in a database that are it's only being sold to these other .com compliant companies and it goes to their databases,

51:42Rod Palmer That's that's what we wanna keep happening. Like, it gets into the wrong hands that goes into, like, a dark web database, then people might use that to become, your owls, right, to come try to steal your Bitcoin or to email you and you need to click on a phishing link so they could steal your Bitcoin. As long as it doesn't have we don't want those people to get that data. We wanna keep it in all of the compliant databases so that only we can only use it to, like, advertise to you, not not for, like, a an affiliate person to reinsteal your Bitcoin in a very

52:15Rod Palmer illegal way.

52:18Richard Greaser Yeah. Yeah. So it sounds like the two, the two options are to either HODL the KYC data or to sell it to a private company that's not the government. Am I kinda understanding correctly?

52:34Rod Palmer Yeah. I think so. I think that your shareholders yes. Your shareholders and your investors, if you were to just delete that data, they would probably consider that. Like, they're like, they would probably fire you for it, so you have to monetize it.

52:52Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, Jimmy Jimmy Song talks about why it's important to make sure your VCs don't fire you. And and it's because the venture capitalists, they they're much more experienced, than the actual founders of the company, and so they know the best ways to to monetize everything and and make it work correctly.

53:15Rod Palmer Right. They understand. Yeah. They they understand exactly how to give customers the best privacy, the best experience, and it it always aligns with allocating capital efficiently. That's what venture capital do. They allocate capital efficiently so they can make a profit, and their profit relies on basically your experience and your data being protected.

53:39Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, it's it's not just about them helping on the business side, but it's also that VCs also tend to be very aligned with the Bitcoin ethos of, of kind of the cypherpunk movement.

53:56Rod Palmer Right. Right. A venture capitalist and a cypherpunk, they have so much in common. You know, one of them is is using encryption to fight the state, whereas the VCs are are using investments. You

54:14Rod Palmer pay the state more in taxes. And it's it's all on attack. You have to get you have to get tax rates, tax write offs first. You're actually undermining the state by

54:28Rod Palmer taking those. They're obviously, they're very they're pretty much the same thing, Cypherpunks, and PC.

54:36Richard Greaser Yeah. That makes sense. Well, I think we should wrap up by, reading the fountain boost real quick.

54:45Rod Palmer Let's do that.

54:47Richard Greaser Alright. Let's, let's split them off. I'll I'll start with John. So John sent us 21,000 sets and said, Podkoff is a great evil. We, the ungovernable misfits, will not yield to compliance mandates that infringe upon our inherent right to privacy

55:05Richard Greaser in the pursuit of freedom and sovereignty. Fuck Podkoff. So it sounds like John is, he's on the board with, being, noncompliant

55:16Richard Greaser with, PodConf and with the government. And so it's it's it's pretty encouraging to hear we've got at least one person,

55:23Rod Palmer understanding what we're talking about. Well, thank you, John. And and, honestly, right below that, we've got fundamentals to send us 5,000 sats. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Go with your other spot. Well, we really do appreciate the emotional enthusiasm fundamentals. And, yes, fuck Podkoff and and propose civil disobedience now.

55:47Rod Palmer And not all of our sponsors are messes we don't mean fuck all of them. So that's just a very excited fan. Only the PodCom. And if you're not PodCom, and you wanna sponsor us, we don't we definitely don't want anybody to, give a thank you. So thank you fundamentals. Just tone it down a bit.

56:05Richard Greaser Yeah. Agreed. One of our favorites, Orange Mart, said thank you for your persistent compliance and commitment to NGU technology. Well, Orange Mart, we're we're no longer really committed to compliance, but we are committed to NGU technology a 100%.

56:22Rod Palmer Right. And and this was, posted this six days ago. So we had not changed our mind about compliance yet. So we can take credit for your, for your thank thank you. Because at the time, we worked correct, but we have changed.

56:39Richard Greaser Yeah. And, I guess, what's important to understand is like, I think that we're gonna come to the conclusion after doing enough research

56:54Richard Greaser that, the only solution if you're noncompliant to, like, replace NGU, forces is by supporting degeneracy like ordinals.

57:08Rod Palmer Well, yeah, it's a bit shift.

57:18Richard Greaser The next one is John again saying noncredential Bitcoin podcaster here. You know, John, we'll we'll give you a pass, but you're really riding the edge, by flaunting that you don't have credentials. But, you you should probably go back to school is my suggestion.

57:36Rod Palmer Like I said, we're not gonna attack you anymore. But just think about the example you're setting to, like, you does your family, does your community, does your listeners devalue as you're having a podcast, but you don't have the training and credentials to report to them the kind of signal that they deserve and respect from a podcast?

57:58Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, I think I think a pretty scary future is, a future where children don't understand the importance of credentialed individuals.

58:08Rod Palmer No. It's it's I just think that we're if we're all on the same mission and we're trying to provide our our people value, signal, and value, just look inside. Think it is what I'm is what I'm doing providing signal, or am I just giving them more noise? And if you don't have a degree,

58:29Rod Palmer it's 99.9 chance that you're just giving them more noise.

58:34Richard Greaser Yeah. Yeah. So clean it up, John. Alright. You wanna get the next two?

58:40Rod Palmer What is that, Rob? Ryan Ham, Rob Hamilton? Like, noticing on fountain splits, it's outgoing to dick. Were you digging your smoking money, Rod? And that's I am, Rob. We we have, I'm getting all the pod comp, money. That's why I got all the clothes. If you listen to the other episode, Rod was not Richard was not getting any of the T shirts. He had to buy his own because that's how we do it. I get the podcast money. He gets all of the,

59:06Rod Palmer bounty money. So thanks, Rob. Then we got the oh, go ahead.

59:11Richard Greaser Well, I think it's important to understand so we made this decision with the fountain boost was, all of them would route through me, and we we have an agreed upon split going beyond behind the scenes that we don't want to, you know, necessarily disclose at this time. But we felt it was better for me to act

59:32Richard Greaser as an unlicensed money transmitter to, give Rod his payouts versus doing, like, kind of this organic split thing. So we we moved it from, like, a compliant solution to a noncompliant solution.

59:46Rod Palmer Exactly. We're trying to live our ethos. Now we've got, at motions. He posted 1,000 sats. Peace is war. Hotcom

1:00:01Rod Palmer is information. Brink's Sprite. Thank you, That was a beautiful poem.

1:00:10Richard Greaser Yeah. Thank you, Next to Wild Hustle, just said 100. Yeah. Keep it a 100, Wild Hustle. Thank you for your donation. Your noncompliant donation to us. And then,

1:00:27Richard Greaser blazer four one five one says, I don't know if I'm supposed to be laughing, but I listened the whole time and enjoyed it. Ignorance is bliss. Well, ignorance isn't bliss. Ignorance has not listened to this podcast, actually,

1:00:44Richard Greaser which is not bliss. You know, individuals that listen to, the things that we're talking about, they're they're enlightened. They make better decisions. They they see they see the world. Like, you don't you don't even need to read Demandables to know what's coming next. You can just listen to the Beagle Weekly.

1:01:02Rod Palmer It sounds like there is not really yeah. Maybe Blazar is ignorant. But it sounds like he liked Adeagle. And if he keeps listening or if she keeps listening, maybe that, you know, listening to real journalists will fix the

1:01:21Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, real real journalism is, is definitely quite the, the healing thing,

1:01:29Rod Palmer the healing power. It was ignorance. Yeah. But the last one, you got Safcide who placed 420 Safs. Kenobi can talk on spaces, but d plus plus can actually add. Mute, Aaron, and Barbie brought to you by Bugle.

1:01:44Rod Palmer That was a that was a good one. We're still trying to work on getting those two together.

1:01:49Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, I I think there's definitely some attraction, being felt both ways. And I think they're they're excited, but they're also just a little bit nervous and intimidated by each other because, you know, even stars could be starstruck by other stars.

1:02:06Rod Palmer That's true. I mean, it would seem pretty easy for influencers to fall in love, but, they're really insecure. I think that, we can better encourage them. Maybe reach out to them and encourage this love and relationship.

1:02:20Rod Palmer Let them know that as somebody who likes to consume, influence their content, and it's it's a a storyline you would like them to pursue.

1:02:30Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, I I know Shinobi would probably feel really good if you brought this up to him in Twitter spaces. You know, when he's arguing with Terrence Yang about ordinals, just just encourage him and say, hey, man. Like, you're you're ready you're ready for the the big leagues here. You can, you can really, be worthy of d plus plus.

1:02:54Rod Palmer Yeah. Indeed, plus plus, I mean, there's it's almost a meme at this point where Earl sees a guy like Shinobi and thinks I can change him. You could you could change him. You could be the one that taught Shinobi how to code. That would be pretty cool.

1:03:09Richard Greaser Yeah. Hopefully hopefully, she beats, Jimmy's song to it because I know he's been working on it as well. Well, anyways, you got any final thoughts, Rob?

1:03:20Rod Palmer Listen, just state philosophy out there. I think that your opportunity to show your civil disobedience, your civil noncompliant, I think it's time to start thinking about what that could be, how you could contribute, figure out how how we can civilly non comply

1:03:39Rod Palmer together.

1:03:42Richard Greaser Well, I know one thing I'll be doing this week, I'll be going and buying some, some raw milk from the Amish milkman.

1:03:52Rod Palmer Yeah. I need to get some, some more grass fed steak and some raw milk myself. I took my my testosterone, levels the other day, and they were only 10% above normal, which is, you know, soy, boy, simple bullshit. I need to get that shit higher.

1:04:10Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, but I think, like, every good doctor will tell you the first step to raising your t is, to read the Bitcoin standard and then go listen to Andrew Tate right afterwards.

1:04:25Rod Palmer Yeah. And just like you've been saying on, Bitcoin Twitter recently, from, experts, cholesterol doesn't matter. So you can keep eating state, and high cholesterol is not bad for you. It actually is the government doesn't want you to have high testosterone because people with high testosterone and high cholesterol, they're less compliant.

1:04:48Richard Greaser Makes a lot of sense. Well, thank you for tuning in to the Bugle weekly podcast. We'll see you guys next week. Bye.

1:04:59Richard Greaser Thanks for listening to the Bugle weekly podcast. There has been a shift in seasons as Rod and Dick are now exploring using civil disobedience in order to force the government to be compliant. It should not be illegal to launder money for government agencies in a democracy. We are all coming to grips with the fact that despite how hard we comply, in the end, it doesn't even matter. The United States just does not seem as free as it used to be, and we need to look for ways to restore it to the republic we were taught it once was in public schools.

1:05:28Richard Greaser While it may seem dark out there, have hope. There are still journalists with the proper credentials working towards freedom every single day. Keep your head up and make sure to boost the show as much as possible as an act of civil disobedience. We will see you next week on the Bugle Weekly.