0:00Rod Palmer Hey. Welcome back to the Bugle. This is, well, first of all, happy Thanksgiving. This is the Bugle Thanksgiving special. It's also gonna be a regular new thing. We're gonna have podcasts coming out on Thursdays as well. It's gonna be more about

0:19Rod Palmer interacting with, with the community and interviewing, some of our friends and people in the space. I'm not sure if we're gonna do, like, spaces or, like, invite a bunch of people or do just podcast episodes, but let us know which you would like to do if you'd like to do spaces or, like, come on the show.

0:41Rod Palmer But to sell no. To kick this off, we're doing it with, with Sly Goomba. I don't know if you guys know him from Bitcoin Twitter, but,

0:49Sly Goomba Sly, how's it going, man? Thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me on, boys. Excited to, talk to a fellow Bitcoin podcasters on a Bitcoin podcast about Bitcoin podcasting and just be thankful for this, this time of year where we get to share our gratitude and happiness, not only for Bitcoin, but also Bitcoin podcasts and what they mean to us.

1:10Rod Palmer Hell, yeah. Do you, you know, Sly, you are Canadian? Do you guys celebrate do you guys celebrate Thanksgiving up there, or do you do it on a different day? It's a different Thanksgiving. So

1:23Sly Goomba I, being in Bitcoin, I gave up on the Canadian dollar, almost instantly because I realized it was a failed project. And so although I still They don't have they don't have Tether Canadian dollars. Right?

1:36Rod Palmer They don't they only have USDT. They don't have CADT.

1:40Sly Goomba Well, CADT would be a back step. I I think Tether is a smart, great company, and they really know what they're doing over there. So they they they recognized the power that the USD has, and they just they stuck to that one. It's a smart choice in my opinion. As for Thanksgiving, yeah, we we celebrate it in October.

2:02Sly Goomba So I got to be thankful in October, and then I also identify as an American. Be being a Bitcoiner, you kind of take on those American values and what really matters here. We're talking about the founding fathers and of of Bitcoin and how no other no other country matters anymore in a Bitcoin world. It's America or it's Bitcoin, and that's it. So I'm gonna I'm gonna celebrate Thanksgiving again with you guys because, being thankful is important. It's one of the most important things, gratitude.

2:32Sly Goomba If you're not grateful for what you have and what you get to experience, then you have nothing.

2:38Rod Palmer So you weren't grateful. You were excited when, when the price crossed 100 k, Canadian dollars.

2:47Sly Goomba I didn't even notice, man. I I I honestly didn't notice. It's such a dead currency. I say that, like, not even joking. There's no point. I've I've never the the first time I cared about the Canadian price, or the the Bitcoin price in Canadian dollars was when I noticed

3:07Sly Goomba the change in what 58 k meant. Right? So the first time Bitcoin hit 58 k American, it was, like, 80 k Canadian. And then the next time, a couple years later, it was 90 I don't know, 90 k Canadian or whatever. And then when we hit 58 k in,

3:26Sly Goomba 2026 here, you know, just two years away, it's gonna be great great time for the fifty eight k gang. But it it will likely be 200, maybe 300, could be half $1,000,000 Canadian by that time in 2026. So,

3:40Sly Goomba any Canadians listening, I highly recommend you just divorce from the Canadian dollar.

3:46Rod Palmer Don't aren't don't don't you think that Canadian citizens should have enough pride and patriotism that they would want to at least I mean, I can understand not having a Canadian dollar tether on Ethereum, but not even to have it on Tron. And for, like, your, like, the main celebrity from Canada, which is Drake, he doesn't even he doesn't even he doesn't even, like, throw up Canadian dollars

4:14Rod Palmer in the music videos. He uses US dollars. Like, you guys don't feel, like, you wanna make the Canadian dollar great again?

4:22Sly Goomba No. I want I wanna see the Canadian dollar die. We have people on our money. They're kings and queens of another nation, Great Britain or some something along those lines. There's a new king over there. I think he's gonna be on our our, paper money soon. And so I just don't want that. I I prefer the money that has,

4:43Sly Goomba symbolism like pyramids with eyes on top of them, federal reserve notes. This is a currency that's actually backed by a real government that at least is willing to go and murder people all across the world to make sure that their currency stays alive. Wherein Canada, there there there's nothing backing the Canadian dollar at all. Not even,

5:06Richard Greaser not even the force of the government. It's just it's Well, I would I would like to fact check that. I would like to fact check that. So what's backing the the Canadian dollar is is tolerance and anti racism, which should not be lauded as unimportant or or insignificant. So I just wanna I wanna fact check you and and caveat there. But I have a question for you, Goomba.

5:33Richard Greaser So you're Canadian. You believe in Bitcoin. The local currency is dying. And you're currently not operating a podcast. So I I wonder if you're letting your fellow countrymen down by not having a Bitcoin podcast.

5:50Sly Goomba What would you say to that? So with the podcast scene, there's been, Bitcoin podcasts, like Bitcoin, go in cycles. I think we're all aware of this. Right? People come in, they podcast for four years, and then they bow out. And so we we see the new wave of Bitcoin podcasters coming through. Bram Kranstein Kronstein is, really up and coming. There's there's some great Bitcoin podcasters,

6:17Sly Goomba Walker America, another one that just started up the Bitcoin podcast. There's a there's a handful of good Bitcoin podcasts coming come to the scene, but what I've noticed recently is that we have a lot of Bitcoin podcasts for new Bitcoiners or a lot of Bitcoin podcasts for millennials or a lot of Bitcoin podcasts for, women, for devs, for

6:43Sly Goomba lightning freaks, all these things. But where are the Bitcoin podcasts for Bitcoin podcasters? I think this is I think this is a market that I'd like to break into. And so I may be coming back with Bitcoin

6:59Sly Goomba the Bitcoin podcast for Bitcoin podcasters because we we really need to start spreading the message of the importance of podcasting. And I I when I come back, I want it to be something that matters.

7:11Rod Palmer Is there is there anything like this in any other culture? Like, that's, you know, like a comedy podcast for comedy podcasters or a politics podcast for politics podcasters? I don't I don't think this exists yet. This is gonna be like a new innovation. Yeah. I I haven't seen it myself yet. I I tend to think I'm a very, outside the box thinker.

7:33Sly Goomba And so I think Bitcoin podcast for Bitcoin podcasters would be great because, you know, there's there's a path that every Bitcoiner goes on. If you're listening to this now and you don't have a Bitcoin podcast, it's only a matter of time until you do. Right? Some people choose to start their Bitcoin podcast. It's a calling. Yeah. You can choose to start your Bitcoin podcast immediately. That's what I did. Two weeks into being a Bitcoin Bitcoiner, I started my podcast. Some people wait until they're a cycle in or two cycles in. But eventually, you know, everybody becomes a Bitcoin podcaster. And we need we need to spread the message of the importance of Bitcoin podcasting to Bitcoin podcasters.

8:16Rod Palmer Richard me Richard and I were talking about this, actually, and we we didn't really come to an agreement, but I'm I'm curious about your opinion. The importance of a pod your Bitcoin podcast logo. Like, do you make it look like corporate, like simply Bitcoin, or do you do you have a podcast logo at all? Like, maybe the best, you know,

8:39Rod Palmer maybe people are are looking for the wrong type of of logo and, you know, they stumble upon your show, but it's but the logo doesn't match the show. What do you what do you think about logos? Did you do you put a big importance on your logo? So with logos and thing things of that nature,

8:56Sly Goomba I'm not sure if you're aware, but there's these new programs available, called artificial intelligence or AI, photo generation. So you can you can punch in

9:09Sly Goomba to the the field there and say, I need the best Bitcoin podcast or Bitcoin podcasters logo. Make me an image. And the AI will do that for you. So, really, that's that's time that I I can save. I don't need to think about it anymore. The the bandwidth on my brain, I'm not gonna waste time thinking about a logo. If you see if you see an AI generated logo,

9:34Rod Palmer you know that podcast is thermodynamically sound. They do not waste the most important research or, the most important, thing

9:47Rod Palmer in the world, which is time.

9:49Sly Goomba Asset. Yeah. Like, yeah, asset. The most valuable asset. Yeah. I mean, you you need to listen to Bitcoin podcasts from people that understand the scarcity of their own block time. Right? Yeah. We only have so many blocks in our life. And if you're gonna waste them trying to think about things that AI can do for you,

10:10Sly Goomba then you're you're just setting yourself back. You're wasting blocks. And I I don't wanna associate with people that waste blocks. I want people that are using the tools that are available to them in the time that they're available to create the best content available.

10:25Rod Palmer Right. Bitcoin podcasters understand the value of time. So that's if they put an hour episode out, you know it's worth your time. What do you think about that, Richard? Well, I think,

10:35Richard Greaser it it is a very high time preference for sure, low time preference way to look at, at podcasting, which is unique. I mean, I think I think, like I I wanna say, first of all, I think it's a great idea to start a Bitcoin podcast for Bitcoin podcasters. Because I have this fear that the general

10:56Richard Greaser Bitcoin podcast ecosystem is very deficient when it comes to getting in their own forty hours. And I think if you're an individual that's getting interested in Bitcoin and wants to take it seriously and you start listening your to your forty hours a week, if you're listening

11:15Richard Greaser to Bitcoin podcasters that don't actually do their forty hours, I feel like you're kind of getting the wool pulled over your eyes. You know what I mean? Right. That is there is no credential

11:29Rod Palmer for the for Big Point Podcast, but having the the forty hours per week, that proof of work is the beta is the best second best substitute, whatever you wanna call it. Yeah.

11:41Richard Greaser I I kinda wanted to ask Goomba a little bit more about Canada. So, some places in Canada, people talk funny. You put funny talkers on your local currency. Like one of the things that's very exciting about the Donald Trump presidency is he respects podcast, unlike any other former

12:03Richard Greaser or, yeah, any other former president. So, like, he really he really marked the first example of a major shift from broadcast journalism to podcast journalism,

12:17Richard Greaser the selection cycle. He's also a Bitcoiner, and it's looking like he's gonna be very friendly towards Bitcoin podcasters. I mean, do you like, how do you think Canadians should respond from a national security standpoint if Justin Trudeau does not

12:39Sly Goomba see the value of Bitcoin podcast? One thing to remember about Justin Trudeau is he's actually, there's a famous clip of him that went online a few years back where he does inform the Canadian populace to buy Bitcoin

12:56Sly Goomba and opt out of inflation. And when he said when he said that I saw that clip and I said, okay, this guy gets it. This this is the way to opt out of inflation, buy Bitcoin, opt out of inflation. It's a very famous clip. I'm sure you guys can probably pull it up here, have it in the show notes for the people that haven't seen it yet. So I I'm hopeful that, Justin there is is buying sats for our country. I'm not sure if he is. It's hard

13:21Sly Goomba because as you can see, you know, America or other countries that can print their own currency are gonna be able to buy more sats, Wherein Justin is printing as absolutely fast as he can. He's just trying to get the currency out there. He wants to make as much currency as possible. But the problem is is that there's only 21,000,000

13:42Sly Goomba Bitcoins. And so if he keeps printing more and more Canadian dollars, he's only gonna get so many sats for those Canadian dollars. And so I I mean, we'll we'll see what happens. With the next Canadian selection, it's likely that we'll go a more conservative route with Pierre Poliyev, and he'll likely be

14:04Sly Goomba more open well, just as open to buying Bitcoin for the country. I think, you know, it's Does Pierre Poliver tolerate ordinals? I don't think anybody tolerates ordinals. I think that was,

14:17Rod Palmer Canada's very tolerant.

14:19Sly Goomba Well, it was about a two week stint, right, where ordinals were a thing. They kinda came and went. Maybe we'll see them, come back this cycle. I'm not sure.

14:30Richard Greaser I I I think that, you would as a Canadian, even as a conservative Canadian like Pierre, you would almost have to back ordinals. I don't think you would have a choice because the entire fabric of the country is built on top of tolerance.

14:49Sly Goomba The quest the question is is is the Trump trading cards that he launched are those on the ordinal protocol or are those on some other blockchain technology? I'm not sure. I haven't looked into them myself.

15:06Sly Goomba Personally, I'm not into NFTs, ordinals, or any of that stuff, but I understand some people are. And so if Trump is launching his own, trading cards and his own coins, then it's very politician thing to do. Right? Get people to buy whatever it is that you think is important.

15:27Sly Goomba So if Trump can do it, maybe maybe Pierre Poliev will do it as well. It's just a question of what the populace will take at that point and and how much money the average, Canadian has to spend on something like a ordinal, which will not be much.

15:44Rod Palmer Do you think that that somebody, if in Canada, they intended an ordinal, that they would have to do, like, like, the land apologies, but for the block space that they, that they took?

16:00Sly Goomba Dude, I went to a yeah. I mean

16:05Richard Greaser oh, shit. Okay. So If you if you mine a block on a piece of a plot of land that was previously owned by the near Native American, you should definitely sign the apology in the block.

16:21Sly Goomba It's import yeah. It's important. I just went to a hockey. Yeah. I just went to a hockey game last week. It's, protocol here for any Canadian to go to at least one hockey game a year. So I did mine last weekend. I did stand as the, announcer was telling us about the importance of the land of the First Nations

16:42Sly Goomba that lived on the land where the stadium was built upon. So it's likely that, if if blocks are digital real estate in cyberspace that it's important to recognize that. So I I could for sure see,

16:59Sly Goomba Canadians acknowledging that.

17:03Rod Palmer I could too. I could too. Do you think that they'll do an acknowledgment for the the Canadian dollar when when when when when when Tether do you think, like, they'll do it when Tether takes over the Canadian dollar? Everybody uses Tether on Tron in Ottawa and Montreal and Vancouver. Yeah. I I And I like Edmonton, though. You got, like, Saskatchewan. Like, you guys are based.

17:26Sly Goomba I look forward to when Canada dollarizes to The US, DT. I think that'll be a good step forward for Canada. Using using a money that's less hard is simply just foolish. And using a hard money like USDT, that can only be minted by real back backed by real US dollars. And so you'll be able to use them on Lightning. And yeah. So we'll we'll we'll have Canadians using Lightning,

17:54Sly Goomba using USDT on Lightning. And the the we'll really see what the country is capable of at at that point. So I'm I'm looking forward to that for sure. What would what would you say what would you say to Canadian citizens that,

18:07Richard Greaser that look at Bitcoin and they feel like they're too late?

18:13Sly Goomba They feel like it's too expensive. They can't afford it. Yeah. I would say that you you are too late. If you're in Canada and you haven't started buying Bitcoin yet, you're too late. All all you can do now is sell your body. Whether you're a man, that means, hard labor, or a woman, sell whatever labor you can in order to trade it for sats because we're at the point now where Canadian dollars just they they don't get you the sats that they used to. It it is too late. So the only thing you can do now is, go out there, work, produce value, do whatever you can to try and, create value for your fellow Canadian. And Right. Hopefully, you can trade those that time for sats,

18:58Rod Palmer if you want yeah. Or

18:59Sly Goomba or or start a podcast and get boosts on fountain. That's another good choice too. I mean, that well, that's kind of a given. Right? So as soon as you start selling your defense. As soon as you start selling your body for sats, you're you're on a fast track to Bitcoin podcasting.

19:13Richard Greaser Well, it's gonna be really interesting because at the rate you're talking, with the alarm bells that you're raising, we saw this with Venezuela, where people were

19:28Richard Greaser you know, essentially mining Bitcoin as that was, like, the only way that they could feed their families in some circumstances. We very well could see a future where for Canadians, they all have to start Bitcoin podcast because that's the only way they could feed their families.

19:44Rod Palmer It seems like they're starting to.

19:46Sly Goomba That's right. It's, it's gotten to a point in this country where it's in complete collapse. Everywhere you look around, people are starving on the streets. There's, musicians outside of grocery stores begging for

20:02Sly Goomba still for Canadian dollars. And I'll try and explain to them, you don't want these coins. You want sats. And, people are are at such a low point. So so much depression is going on that there's just this this complete what's the word? There's just no hope for the future of Canada, and and that that will be turned around once we have a lot of, a lot more Bitcoin podcasts going on, Bitcoin podcasts for Canadians.

20:31Sly Goomba I think there's already one out there. What is that big Bitcoin podcast called? The Canadian Bitcoiners Podcast. Yeah. That's one. That's correct. So there'll be more Bitcoin podcasts for Canadians. We need it. I think Australians are right in behind us. I think, the British folk are right there with us. Anybody in the g seven, is likely to crumble. Right? You guys know America will crumble last, but if you're in Australia right now, you know, start Bitcoin for Australians.

21:05Sly Goomba If you're in England right now, start Bitcoin for the English. Where wherever you are, it's it's important to start these and just really get the message out there that the the world has fallen. The the the doll all all the currencies have failed. It's already too late. Bitcoin has won. And it's important to change your money because once you change your money from

21:29Sly Goomba Canadian dollars or Australian dollars to to sats, you win. And it's, it's a much better life.

21:35Rod Palmer It's no it's no surprise to me that, it is no coincidence that truckers are the ones who started the, you know, the the trucking protest in 2022 for freedom in Canada because truckers have the perfect job

21:50Sly Goomba for listening to a lot of hours of Bitcoin podcast. That's true. That's true. I, I myself, I'm a just a construction guy. I spend a lot of hours on the road going from site to site, and that's where I spent my that's where I put in my forty hours Bitcoin podcast listening. I'll listen on the job site too. But those truckers, if you're just driving, you know, you're getting that information. It's important. And I think there's a there's a major epidemic of people that listen to music on the highway as they're driving, and this is just, it's an it's a big problem because when you're listening to music, you're not learning. You're not you're not learning any new information. You're simply drowning out the noise, and

22:33Sly Goomba we need to have less people we need to have more people listening to less music and more people listening to more Bitcoin podcasts. That's how we change the world. You need people searching for signal, not trying to drown out the noise. That's right. What what if it was Bitcoin Music podcast? So that's also important. I think, Bitcoin Music is, taking a great leap this year. 2024 has been a good time for your Like Christian music.

22:59Sly Goomba Yeah. It's, you know, you you get to praise. You get to It's like rock music but better. Yeah. You you you listen to Bitcoin music, and it it really boosts your your spirits. But you need to have that foundation first. Right? You need to have the knowledge and understanding of what Bitcoin is before you can listen to the music.

23:18Rod Palmer It's, there's levels of You have to let it in. Let it in your own. Yep.

23:21Richard Greaser You you you need at least like, what do you think the threshold is? Like, how many how many weeks or months of forty hours a week until you have a proficient? I mean, I would say close to a full cycle. Yeah. I think so. It's,

23:35Sly Goomba a bit oh, boy. Might get in trouble for this one. But you can think of Bitcoin music a lot like, Christian music or songs you listen to in church wherein

23:45Rod Palmer Agree.

23:46Sly Goomba Somebody can go to church and they're singing songs. That's the first thing. It's praise. It's wonderful, but you're not gonna actually absorb the meaning of that music. It's not gonna hit your heart the same way unless you've put in the time to read the Bible. So the same way that if you're if you just jump into Bitcoin music, you might enjoy that. You might enjoy the beat. You might enjoy the melody. You might enjoy the lyrics. But you're not gonna understand the significance of that piece of art unless you've put in at least one full cycle of forty hours a day of Bitcoin podcasts.

24:24Richard Greaser I I would like to hear a song from Rod that could be played in a in, like, a a church, you know, like a modern church. So, like, you imagine Pierre Richard or Jimmy Song or, you know, any of these guys affiliated with Thank God for Bitcoin. They're they're going to church on Sunday morning,

24:45Richard Greaser you know, and

24:46Rod Palmer A worship a good worship album.

24:49Richard Greaser Yeah. A good worship album, you know, like, thank thank you Jesus for bringing the bull run, you know, or something like that. Like, something Right.

24:58Rod Palmer God created the bull and the bear. They let the bull run. That'd be good.

25:03Sly Goomba Yeah. That would be that that would be nice. It's just you wanna listen to with the when you look around at the world and you see everything collapsing in the fiat world, it's nice to just take a step back and and worship and praise the the good word and the good the good life that Bitcoin brings us all. So, yeah, we we need music. There there's a lot of space for, Bitcoin music producers still. I think, there's a lot of space for Bitcoin podcasters, but there's a lot

25:31Richard Greaser of space for Bitcoin music producers. Sure. Especially if they make good high high quality stuff. I think, like, the the there there's been a lot of, like, failings when it comes to music and and stuff pertaining to this industry, and a lot of it's centered around, you know, Vitalik Buterin. He's the he's the the meme, you know, doing his his weird dance and trying to rap. And he's a beat significantly better than that.

26:01Sly Goomba Yeah. I mean, it's not it's not hard to be better than Vitalik Buterin. That's for sure. One of the one of the hackers from,

26:07Rod Palmer Bitfinex. Remember their videos?

26:10Sly Goomba They were Haltrip or whatever their videos. Right. Right. One great song that comes to mind when you talk about Bitcoin music is, 3.125. Great footstep, flip foot slide. I still sing that song in my car. I don't know who actually did it. I don't know if you guys know. Who could I mean, probably the biggest hit is Don't Stop Believin'. Oh, okay. That was actually yeah. That was, I think Scottie Pippen must have helped write that song because he actually knew Satoshi in '93 and Don't Stop Believing was written in around the eighties.

26:43Sly Goomba Yeah. So it's likely that, he he probably got the tip-off to say, hey. We're gonna need a Bitcoin song here coming up soon within the next, half century.

26:53Rod Palmer And if you're and if you're good enough, you can kinda cross over into the mainstream like Creede or POD. Yeah. I have

27:01Sly Goomba a a bit of a, bone to pick with the Creede thing. I think I think Ben Justin may be, a little bit too in the pod comp space,

27:15Sly Goomba wherein he's he's he's really trying hard to to send the message out. He's tweeting about cereal today. We all know that's not the Bitcoin way. If you're a Bitcoiner, you shouldn't be eating any cereals, rice krispies, or frosted flakes. I saw that tweet today. I was it was upsetting.

27:35Sly Goomba And so we know that the first pump of this cycle was, shut down because of Creed. And so I I'd love if we could start a movement to remove Creed from the Bitcoin ecosystem altogether. I know it's it's started to become quite ingrained, but You wanna you wanna filter CREED? We need to we need to filter CREED.

27:58Sly Goomba That's right. We we need to soft fork away the the Bitcoin pumps from Creed and, start disassociating with anybody that that feels Creed is, important in a Bitcoin pump because it it it simply is just

28:14Sly Goomba a way to stop the pump.

28:17Richard Greaser Have have you talked to Bitcoin mechanic or Luke junior about this yet?

28:22Sly Goomba I haven't reached out to them yet.

28:25Rod Palmer I know that they'd be on my side though. Are you ever group any of the group chats with them?

28:30Sly Goomba So Ocean Mining is, I'm a big fan of Ocean Mining. I think the mechanic is an absolute genius. I think Luke Dash Junior is a interesting dude. These guys know their shit, and, they're in it for the right reasons. They care. They care a lot about Bitcoin. I think their one flaw is that they might think that Bitcoin hasn't won yet wherein

28:55Sly Goomba obviously Bitcoin has obviously won. So, you know, you you gotta give those guys their space because they're still stressed out. They're still thinking, oh, no. What do what do we have to do? How how how can we make Bitcoin win? They're too close to it. They're too close to it. That's right. It's it's it's too hard for them to see that it's already won.

29:14Rod Palmer That is that's a good point. I want I wonder how people like that could be convinced what it will take.

29:22Sly Goomba It's just time. It's just time.

29:25Richard Greaser I I think that when Hailey Welch successfully launches her her meme token, they'll realize that Bitcoin is one.

29:33Sly Goomba Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm really happy for Hailey Welch. She's, moved on to a Monero boy, you guys said. That's, I think Oh, no. No. No. That was Kaylee. Kaylee and Haylee are two different Oh, shit. Sorry. Sorry. Okay. Yeah. Haylee is doing great things in the podcast space. Hawtua is a Bitcoin podcast. One of my favorite Bitcoin podcasts.

29:55Rod Palmer She just recently had Wiz Khalifa on who is Nobody nobody has raised done a better job raising awareness for freeing Ross than, Hawktua.

30:04Sly Goomba That's right. You know, she's really putting in the work. She took her fame, and she she made something of it. And Ross is gonna get free. And it's likely that we need to thank Hawktua for that. Agreed. Agreed.

30:18Rod Palmer One getting on the topic, since we're in the bull market, is there anything that, you're gonna any price or anything you would sell for? So I don't sell SATs.

30:31Sly Goomba I sell my in Canada, the only thing I can sell now is, my my body and my labor that I do. But when the price gets to a point where it's $300,000, American, I have made a decision with myself that I'm gonna buy PlayStation five.

30:50Sly Goomba I think it's important to use money for what it's meant to be used for, which is trading for goods and services. I've spent 4 almost four years now. I'm I'm very close to my four year anniversary. It's December twenty something, just after Christmas. I think it was, like, the twenty seventh that I became a Bitcoiner. Boxing day?

31:12Sly Goomba Day after Boxing Day. So Well,

31:16Richard Greaser maybe, like, if you're gonna huddle till three hundred k, I think, something that is very important to do at a 100 k is to buy a new pair of headphones. A nicer pair of headphones to increase.

31:32Sly Goomba I I've been trying to find a good pair of headphones, and you know what, Dick? I just I don't think they exist. Is there any So I remember back when I was a kid, you would buy headphones and they had a wire attached to them that you could plug in to the device you were listening to. Right? And now these days I go to the store and they're just two little buds that you stick in your ears and these things Airgap. Airgap.

31:60Rod Palmer Airgap.

32:01Sly Goomba Airgap headphones and the problem is is that you just get one charge out of them. They say that they're rechargeable but the problem is is that they're not. You put them back in there, you try and plug them in, they don't charge, you gotta throw them away. They're just they're disposable. This is a problem with the Fiat system. They keep making these disposable products. So if you have any suggestions, this is a serious request, or anybody listening that is aware of headphones, headphones that don't suck, please

32:30Rod Palmer send me a DM and let me know because I'm looking for headphones that don't suck and I've had zero have to so you have to go through these disposable headphones. So listening to your forty hours per week is expensive.

32:42Sly Goomba It's expensive. Yeah. So I buy my SATs every week. I have to denote a certain amount of, my time spent to buying headphones weekly and then groceries and, of course, rent and all the other essentials. But I have I have yet to find headphones that will last more than a couple weeks.

33:01Richard Greaser Well, I I think one of the keys to this is you need over the ear headphones. Right? So what you're refer or what you're referencing are earbuds, which are okay.

33:14Richard Greaser But they do not give you the the full podcast listening experience, like, over the ear headphones. Say say for puns to use earbuds.

33:24Rod Palmer So I think You need, like, the you need, like, that funds they wear on, like, air force military planes. They're, like, they stick out, like, three inches.

33:34Sly Goomba Yeah. The problem is those just aren't practical for the the line of work I'm in. Right? I need something small and easy to, And they keep your ears warm. It's candid. It's cold. Well, that's a yeah. If if if maybe that would be a good brand, Bitcoin, podcast for Bitcoin, podcasters Bitcoin, headphones for Bitcoin, podcast listeners in the gold. Yeah. We we we need more of those.

33:58Richard Greaser I will tell you, like, some of the nicer the nicer ones, they have these these cold modes so you can toggle back and forth between noise cancellation and trans what they call transparency mode. So you can kinda hear what's happening around you. So they're actually potentially really good for the workplace because you can still listen to music at a very high quality level and hear

34:23Rod Palmer what's happening around you at the same time. You could still do carpentry adversarially.

34:28Richard Greaser Yeah. Like you can, like sometimes I do this with my wife, you know, where I'll be listening to something on my headphones and I'm like, yeah, I could still hear you. And it's it's just enough so I can kinda get what she's saying so I can nod while I'm listening to my to ungovernable misfits.

34:49Sly Goomba Okay. Yeah. If you can send me links for any of these, that'd be that'd be great. They're they're probably only available in America. That's a problem. High quality products, they're hard to come by in Canada because our dollar has failed so much that it it it'd probably take me two or three weeks to just afford one of these pairs of headphones that are quality. I'm gonna I'm just gonna research them real quick. Give me two minutes. I'll be right back. I'm gonna take a quick look at this. Wow. You need

35:17Rod Palmer you to let you need to you buy Bitcoin so you can afford to listen to podcasts in Canada.

35:22Richard Greaser I I don't think I've ever interviewed somebody in my entire career that has left been interviewed to do research. This is this is but this is why

35:32Rod Palmer the people in this, you know, like, for the intellectual Silk Road, they're just so much more advanced than regular regular people.

35:40Richard Greaser I I will say, you know, I'm pretty shocked by, the picture that that Goomba is painting of Canada because everything I'm hearing from the credentialed media is essentially saying that the economy is fine there. And it it sounds like it's not.

36:02Rod Palmer I have no idea. I mean, real estate prices are fantastic in Canada. Okay. I I I'm looking I'm looking back here, and

36:10Sly Goomba everything seems to be priced in USDT now, and it's, it's a struggle being a Canadian, man. But I don't think you guys understand how how hard it is when your your money is hyperinflating at the rate it is. Richard Richard was just talking about tell him what you told me.

36:27Richard Greaser I I was just saying, you know, I don't hear any of what you're saying from the credentialed experts. It's and it's kind of shocking, to to hear the picture that you're depicting because when you when you look at the the syndicated press, they they say the economy's fine. You know, they're they're talking about how how

36:50Richard Greaser how Canada's reaching new levels of compliance, new new levels of tolerance.

36:55Rod Palmer Real estate market's soaring.

36:57Richard Greaser Yeah. But it doesn't it sounds like it sounds like people are are struggling to even pay taxes. Is that the case? Or are people able to pay taxes?

37:06Sly Goomba I I haven't met somebody in the last four years that's been able to pay taxes. I think that Oh, shit. I think that the authorities, in charge of relaying the information of the economy and the situation of the economy are are spot on in that, prices are going up. And so if your metric is, house prices going up is a good thing, then you're you're right right on because houses are are spiraling

37:35Sly Goomba to the upside. And so if you own one, there's about, 12 people in Canada, I think, at least, that own a house. Most people are renters, but those 12 people are doing great because their net worth in Canadian dollars is is skyrocketed. Now if that if that's what you think is progress, I I can't disagree with that. I just look at it from the Bitcoin perspective, and I think that,

38:01Sly Goomba a deflationary currency is better for the the the the well-being of the citizen, of the individual. Right? So I look at prices going down as progress, and that's where I have to hard disagree with any credentialed journalist that says prices going up is a sign of success. Because from the Bitcoiner perspective, prices going down is a sign of success.

38:27Sly Goomba Jeff Booth says prices fall to the marginal cost of production. If you have a calculator app on your phone, then it's likely free. Why is it free? Because it was people are able to make technology cheaper and cheaper over time. So I'm firmly in the belief that prices going down is a sign of success, and that's just not what we see in Canada. We see prices going up higher and higher and higher. It's very shocking. It's very alarming.

38:55Rod Palmer And I wonder if there's something that we could do about this. I just look at that. So right now, Neil, let me do this calculation one more time. Right now, the price for one share of Minecraft strategy is in is 545 US DT. If you were to price that excuse me,

39:18Rod Palmer CADT, even though that doesn't exist. 545 men. Michael Sailor is rich in Canada.

39:25Sly Goomba Yes. Yeah. Even even if, he holds his his money on any custodied, solution, he's still rich. Yeah. If I I mean, you just

39:38Sly Goomba it it's a very simple the Canadian dollar versus the American dollar is a very easy way to see that fiat currencies fail, full stop.

39:48Rod Palmer So at 300,000 USDT, you said that you might sell, and is that so you can pay taxes,

39:58Sly Goomba buy micro strategy shares? What are you what would you sell for? So what what I need you guys to understand is I I have no plans of selling, my SATs at any point. Right? What I do is I work. I buy SATs. I spend,

40:15Sly Goomba whatever I need to on the essentials, you know, food for my son and rent. Cigarettes. As, yes, cigarettes and headphones.

40:25Rod Palmer The essentials.

40:27Sly Goomba The essentials. Right? And so once we hit 300 k USDT, I think I'll likely be, a it'll likely be about $1,000,000 CAD,

40:42Sly Goomba CAD.

40:43Rod Palmer Enough to retire.

40:45Sly Goomba Well, enough to retire if I were to move somewhere else. $1,000,000 CAD is not going to go far. But the problem what's lucky for the consumer in Canada is that a lot of companies don't understand

41:01Sly Goomba how inflation works so they won't raise their prices with the inflation. So I'm looking at, buying, certain products that will look,

41:12Sly Goomba cheap in today's sats. And so, yeah, you know, money is about upgrading your life, living a life that you wanna live, spending your time how you wanna spend it. And and you wanna play video games? That that's something that's important to me. That it's a medium that shows story, and

41:34Sly Goomba narrative in a way that simply watching, television television shows or movies just doesn't. I'm like any other Bitcoiner. I watch Braveheart every other week. I watch Lord of the Rings trilogy, on the opposite weeks, and then I'll watch Gladiator, on the other days. So I'll watch those. But

41:57Sly Goomba any other movie, it just there's no story there. So the only way to get a real good narrative driven story is to, play video games. And it I think that's something that's important.

42:11Rod Palmer So we we we talk about buying Bitcoin so you can afford to pay taxes, but what there's more to life than paying taxes even though some people will be surprised to hear that. And some people just they wanna have a life outside of of working and paying taxes. And for some people, they just they wanna pay their taxes,

42:33Rod Palmer play video games, and be left alone. And and if that's what you want, especially if you're Canadian, you should buy Bitcoin.

42:42Sly Goomba That's right. And if you're gonna have an off grid off grid homestead out in the bush that you have, your solar panels and your your own, oil well drilled for to get power,

42:56Sly Goomba then what else are you gonna use that power for other than to power, video games? You know? Do what's the point of having an off grid homestead if you can't kick back on your couch and enjoy a good eight hour experience? You know? What what what what else are we here for other than that? Right.

43:16Rod Palmer Does does Canada like, do they allow all the different video games or, like, are there non compliant video games in Canada? Do are there

43:27Richard Greaser do they exclude on inclusive

43:29Rod Palmer video games? Do Do you have the KYC?

43:33Sly Goomba So there is, a movement going forward that, is inclusive to all, body types and human forms. Right? There's

43:47Sly Goomba if you if you look back, there's in feudal Japan, samurais were there. There's a new game coming out where there's a female samurai, and, that's just that's an important story to learn from. Right? What what would have happened if females were samurais in December

44:08Sly Goomba here? You know? So, well, what would that be in Bitcoin time? About, 1214 before

44:17Rod Palmer and video games? Masks, like COVID masks. Do Canadians still like, does aren't there a lot of Canadians who,

44:26Sly Goomba they don't want their right to wear masks to be taken away from them by the government? So one thing I do need to just put out on the table here is that any Bitcoiner in Canada, there's only one place you can go. It's Alberta. Right? So maybe I'm gonna say Bull Bitcoin. Well, you can go to Bull Bitcoin, and actually, funny enough, Bull Bitcoin does now reside in Alberta. They've moved to their headquarters. That's a true fact. You can look that up. But anybody that's in Canada that's a Canadian Bitcoiner, you're gonna look around and you're gonna say, well, I kinda value freedom. You know, freedom's an important thing in my life. I care about being able to do what I wanna do without the government telling me what I can and can't do. And so there's only one one small bastion of freedom here, and that's Alberta. And that's where I've moved to. So luckily,

45:16Sly Goomba I am, somewhat segregated from the absolute disaster that is has been the rest of the country. Alberta is Canada's last stand. It's like Florida. It's like Florida, Texas. That's right.

45:34Sly Goomba When I was, I was in Ontario, I was actually in Ottawa, which is the capital of Canada. I was next door neighbors to Justin, basically. I could, ride my bike down to his house and say, you know, say, hey. What's up? And Pierre Poliev was actually this actually isn't a joke. He was, like, two minutes from where I used to live. If they ever tried the orange peel, Justin Trudeau, do you think that Dennis Porter's ever had a chance to to try to orange peel Justin Trudeau? I don't think I think Justin's gonna learn his lesson. You know, his dad, Fidel, was a big fan of communism.

46:10Sly Goomba So Justin thinks communism can still work. We'll see what happens there. I'm more hopeful of Pierre. I'm more hopeful of the premier of, the province I live in now, Alberta, Danielle Smith. She's a hardcore Bitcoiner. She's she's talked to the likes Is she a girl? Yeah. She's a great leader, you know, probably Is she hot? Oh, super hot, which is great because What'd you say her name was? Danielle Smith. Is she hotter than look her up. Is she hotter than, than Alden? She is a Bitcoiner. She's talked to Bitcoin brains. She's talked to Francis Poliat. She's talked to, probably Madex was there too, I'm not sure.

46:51Sly Goomba A lot of Bitcoiners have had one on one conversations with Danielle Smith. She's a hardcore Bitcoiner. She's putting forward plans to hopefully separate Alberta from Canada. You know? That's, something that will be in the mix within the next decade. Could you get Bitcoin your your legal tender then? She could if she wanted to. Nice. I'm not a big fan of legal tender laws. I think you just Interesting. You don't need a government to tell you what money to use. You just use the money that makes sense to you. But but but normies do. That's right. Yeah.

47:24Sly Goomba But what normies don't understand is the currency is labor. Labor is currency, money is bitcoin, right? So, if you have anything other than labor that you can create or hard money in your, cold storage wallet, then you have nothing.

47:42Richard Greaser So this kind of interesting, so I'm looking at the geography of Canada right now. So I I would say Danielle Smith is, definitely not as hot as Lynn Alden, but then again, I have not listened to her on the Bitcoin podcast. I think you should.

47:56Sly Goomba They could almost be sisters, really, when you when you look at them side by side.

47:60Richard Greaser She knows Macra? She's You you could clearly see. It's not like you're you're questioning whether or not Danielle Smith has two ears or not. You can tell she does.

48:11Sly Goomba Yeah. Well, she's she's, she's bold. She's not afraid to show show her ears or cover both ears, whatever she wants to do. So,

48:20Rod Palmer what what podcast have that few listens to or listens on? She she

48:25Sly Goomba she may have access to outside of country technology given she has a direct relationship with, Dave Bradley, Bitcoin Brains, and Francis Spullio. They,

48:38Sly Goomba they could be sending her high quality headphones that I I just don't have access to yet. You know, that's probably a two or three cycle thing for me from now.

48:47Richard Greaser So do you think so, like, I think one of the well, first of all, I wanna comment on the geography of Canada. So Alberta is in between British Columbia and Saskatchewan, right above Montana.

49:03Richard Greaser So it's completely landlocked. There there's the Northwest Territories above. I don't know what that means. I assume that just means there's a bunch of sparse lands where, you know, nobody lives and maybe some Eskimos have some citadels or whatever. But, I know that Eskimos don't actually live up there, but you know what I mean. Mhmm. So,

49:25Richard Greaser so this country wants to to leave Canada and be landlocked, trapped between Canada

49:32Sly Goomba and Montana, pretty much. Sure. Yeah. So I have a great answer for that. One thing you need to understand is that water water is important, but there is another liquid that's more important than water. It's called oil. Alberta Alberta is flooded with oil. It's all over the place. It's great here. Is there would it be a democracy then? We would have threats of democracy coming this way, but then I was just about to get to the other second, best thing about Alberta is not only the oil, but, being Americans, you won't understand this. In the rest of Canada, there's no guns allowed. In Alberta,

50:08Sly Goomba guns are allowed. So if you're landlocked and it's just by, you know, other people in the way Albertans are able to blast their way out so Alberta could easily take over British Columbia, we could move west.

50:28Rod Palmer Is there a Dennis Porter to protect the your right to guns there?

50:33Richard Greaser Well I I think he was saying Francis was like the the Canadian Albertan Dennis Porter, right? That's right, right. Yeah. He's gotten in with the politician with, what's your

50:44Sly Goomba Daniel Smith. Daniel Smith. Danielle Smith. She she's gonna she's gonna make some waves. She's writing a Canadian, Albertan Charter of Rights and Freedoms that she's launching so that we have the rights to our guns and our oil and, our Bitcoin. So if you have that, trifecta, what else do you need? Guns, oil, Bitcoin?

51:06Speaker 4 And how else I mean, you take over the world. I don't have one. I don't have one. I don't have one. I don't have one. I don't have one. I don't have one. I don't have one. I don't have one. I don't have one. I don't have one. I don't have one. I don't have one. I don't have one. I don't have one. I

51:15Sly Goomba Oh, nice. Yeah. So there's there's a lot of good Bitcoiners here. Whenever you hear about a Canadian Bitcoiner, it's likely that they're in Alberta.

51:21Richard Greaser So so I want I want your opinion. So, like, the entire nation of Canada, I think, looks to Steve Barber as, as an important figure in, you know, Canadian in the Canadian world of business. Right? Right. What do you think the average person's opinion on him shaving off his mustache are?

51:43Sly Goomba So it was, it was a big it was a bold move for a few reasons here. One is that November is historically a time to grow a mustache. Mhmm. And he decided to shave it off. I think that's just his Bitcoiner ethos shining through saying, you tell me what to do I'm gonna I'm gonna do the opposite.

52:04Sly Goomba I'll grow the most magnificent mustache in the entire world and I'll shave it off in November. And that that's a sign of leadership and loyalty to yourself. He he's someone that thinks very highly of himself. He's someone that thinks he can make a difference, and those are the type of people that we wanna look up to. The people that that simp for themselves, you know. You really

52:28Sly Goomba you look at yourself and you say, I'm the best. I can shave off my mustache, and I'll I'll still be the best Bitcoin miner in all of Alberta, Canada.

52:37Rod Palmer In Canada, maybe not so much Alberta, but Canada could probably really benefit from a broader campaign of we've we've synced the collective, now it's time to synced the individual a little bit.

52:50Sly Goomba I think simping for yourself is something that, people need to start doing. There's been a lot of simping. The best way to start is by listening to forty Hours of Bitcoin Podcasts. That's right. There's no way to take care of yourself better than listening to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast this week. It's just like on a plane. Like, before you put the oxygen on,

53:10Rod Palmer somebody else to to help them, you have to put the oxygen on yourself. You have to listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast before you can orange pill other people.

53:20Richard Greaser Circling back to your idea about starting a Bitcoin podcast for Bitcoin podcasters, like, I think, like, the topic that we're currently on right now is

53:32Richard Greaser it's very exciting because I I think there's a lot of there's not enough Bitcoin podcasters that sit for themselves. You know what I mean? It's a pretty advanced advanced topic. And I think, like, part of the reason why is so many Bitcoin podcasters start Bitcoin podcasts so early on their on their personal development journey. And, like, when you're locked into the seed oils and when you're locked into fiat and you aren't smoking cigarettes, there there's a lot to unlearn there's a lot to learn, but there's also a lot to unlearn. That's right.

54:10Rod Palmer Yeah. Some people start one too early because they want people to simp for them, but they had to learn to simp for themselves yet. Mhmm. That's right. Yeah. I mean, people are people are taught to simp for politicians.

54:21Richard Greaser They're taught to simp for, you know, unattractive people like Lizzo. She obviously doesn't smoke cigarettes.

54:31Sly Goomba Zero chance. She she's on a weight loss journey, so hopefully she started picking up smoking cigarettes. I think that'll help her. But, she has started shipping for herself, you know? She cares about herself, and she's, she's putting herself first. That's important.

54:44Richard Greaser Do you really think she is super versatile? Yeah. Is she actually trying to lose weight?

54:51Sly Goomba I think she is. She's she's come up and told everybody that, fat is not beautiful and being That that's a strong statement. Yeah. If we're ever people,

55:01Rod Palmer listen to this. Talk reach out to us about forty hours of Bitcoin podcast. We'd like to talk to her about it. Well, I think there's this real danger right now.

55:12Richard Greaser So I think this this is interesting. This this might be I'm looking at pictures of her. It does look like she's lost a significant amount of weight. She's, like, unrecognizable.

55:23Sly Goomba Mhmm.

55:25Richard Greaser But it's kind of a weird picture. It's kinda like one of those, like, fat lady catfish pictures they post on Tinder. Oh, yeah. I saw I saw them. Like, she's probably still pretty fat, but she just looks like she's a lot less fat. But She can hide it, though. You know what she's trying? She's in,

55:40Sly Goomba like any Bitcoiner knows, you should be at least fifty pounds, less than you were,

55:48Rod Palmer when the cycle started.

55:51Sly Goomba And that's easy to achieve. Right? All you have to do is eat steaks and do a 100 push ups a day into a 100 k, and you'll you'll you'll drop the weight. So maybe Lizzo's been eating steaks, and hopefully, she's doing her push ups, and she'll be feeling a lot better very soon. Well,

56:08Rod Palmer that's I mean, that's we we opened the the episode about being grateful, and I am I am grateful that, people are starting new journeys of of health, better mental health and physical health, and it's helped because of big black gas and cigarettes. I agree. I think that's a good way to

56:27Rod Palmer to end that one out. I don't know, Richard, if you have any closing closing thoughts, but, I think this is a good conversation. I think I'm excited to do some more of these Wednesday nights, Thursday releases,

56:42Richard Greaser podcasting adversarially. Yeah. I look forward to this. First time doing this, I think we couldn't have had a better guess, than mister Greenberg here. I I feel hopeful for, the territory of Alberta.

57:01Richard Greaser And when there's a higher concentration in the other Canadian provinces, I might feel hopeful for the rest of Canada. But at at this time, I do not. It's if people cannot

57:17Richard Greaser afford taxes, you can't have a functioning society or video game. Mhmm. And yeah. Anyways, I wanna thank you, Goob, for doing this and,

57:36Richard Greaser Rod for coming up with this idea, and

57:40Sly Goomba I look forward to doing it again. I think we should do it live next time, in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I I Appreciate it. Thanks for having me on, guys. Keep doing the great work. Keep putting out that good journalism that you've been doing, spreading the spreading the signal that the Bitcoiners need to hear, man. It's important to get the words out and get the, the potential Bitcoin podcasters, Bitcoin podcasting as soon as possible. You know? That's how we change the world. So I appreciate you guys. Thank you. We deserve that.