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Transcript: Recovering From A Noncompliant 4th | Bugle Weekly Episode 16

0:01Richard Greaser The world is tough out there right now. The outlook is looking bleak. My heart aches for more. I can't get any sleep. Awaken my bed, I toss and turn thinking of the future. Why can't society just learn to listen to more Robert Breedlove?

0:25Rod Palmer I need a Prince Sean and to save me from my depression. A man whose full time job is listening to Bitcoin podcasts. When we lay in bed at night, I want him to explain to me thermodynamics and whisper the things that he heard. Secure. I want a house in Nashville with a white picket fence. A husband never misses an episode of work of coin dead. With his superior knowledge of the way the world works, I will bring him lots of kids. I need a prince charming to save me from my depression. A man of small time job is listening to Bitcoin podcasts,

1:17Rod Palmer but we lay in bed at night. I want him to explain I need the security of someone who is bullish even when the world is a mess. When I grow up, I will find this now, most likely at the conference in Nashville. My full time next question. I'm gonna go to the next question. I'm gonna go to the next question. I'm gonna go to the next question. I'm gonna go to the next question. I'm gonna go to the next question. I'm gonna go to the next question. I'm gonna go to the next question. I'm gonna go to the reason to live. I'm a man until you meet through hyperbolic conversation.

2:37Richard Greaser The world is tough out there right now. The outlook is looking bleak. My heart aches for more. I can't get any sleep.

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3:26Kailey Welch with fundamentals and Business Cat is that podcast. Listen as two non compliant plebs from Pennsylvania talk about their lives, bitcoin, and finding signal in a noisy world on fountain FM,

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3:52Kailey Welch This July 4 yielded record levels of noncompliance across the land. Instead of the founding fathers tossing in their graves, the rested in peace as Americans gathered to fill the skies with smoke of non KYC cigarettes and non KYC fireworks. How could you feel hopeless and demoralized when Americans are getting reconnected with their non compliant heritage and rejecting PodConf? Even with Bitcoin going down, non compliance is going up. The true metric to track is individual freedom, and we are winning folks. Buckle up and enjoy the show.

4:32Richard Greaser You are listening to the Bugle Weekly, the most thermodynamically sound podcast in the game. Here are your hosts, Rod Palmer and Dick Grieser. Welcome to Bugle Weekly. Podcast is your host, Richard Glacier, recovering from

4:52Richard Greaser noncompliance, Wolf? Sorry the show is coming out a few days late. It it came out late because I was so noncompliant this July 4 that I got sick. Like, I overdosed on noncompliance,

5:07Richard Greaser and so I was bedridden for about seventy two hours. And, you know, due to excessive smoking of non KYC cigarettes, I was able to recover from my deathbed

5:22Richard Greaser and, feel a lot better. But, yeah, what's going on with you, Ron? How you doing?

5:28Rod Palmer I'm doing good. I'm glad that, did not say YC cigarettes worked for you. I've I've been reading on, the message boards that the health boards that the cigarettes can kinda work almost as good as ivermectin for getting rid of viral infection. So I'm glad to see it seems like it worked for you, but I had a great,

5:50Rod Palmer fourth of July, super not compliant. And, I think one of the things I took away from this, this holiday

6:00Rod Palmer reflecting and celebrating non compliance was, goddamn, I am glad I am not a European, I'm glad I'm an American. We have freedom here. We're gonna turn it into social commie commie countries. I used to I used to give France a pass just because so many French people smoke cigarettes, but I can't give them a pass anymore. It's just it's just terrible. Well,

6:24Richard Greaser yeah, it's pretty great to not be a European. Right? It's, you know, the amount of hope that Peter McCormick has on a regular basis is is pretty incredible. He you know, his response to the July 4 and, you know, non American noncompliance day was to try and say that

6:47Richard Greaser The UK doesn't have a deep state.

6:51Rod Palmer I know that. Yeah. That's crazy.

6:54Richard Greaser Yeah. He he was trying to explain to Stretzky, a fellow funny talker. I mean, it's just like and not only would it be bad to be European, but could you imagine being from one of these countries like Australia that that

7:10Richard Greaser never had never became non compliant with the crowd? Oh, yeah. I mean,

7:16Rod Palmer you you're on the other side of the world almost, and you have you're surrounded by the best, you know, natural defense, the ocean. You're surrounded by it,

7:30Rod Palmer and you didn't rebel at all? Come on. That's couldn't be me. Yeah.

7:37Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, it's just like, you know, there and this is the contrast that you get with the Bugle weekly podcast compared to Peter's podcast. Is Peter Peter had a cope show with Svetzky, you know, where Svetzky was talking about, like, how

7:55Richard Greaser women shouldn't be allowed to smoke. They should, you know, be forced to to stay at home and, you know, make sandwiches, which, you know, I'm I'm all for as long as it's, you know, kind of a voluntary arrangement. But, like,

8:12Richard Greaser yeah. And it's such a scheme as on Peter's show, especially, showing King Charles. King Charles is is a good leader.

8:22Rod Palmer Yeah. But, I'm a little bit conservative myself. So I while I would never ban my wife from smoking, I think that at least in my household growing up, my father bought, you know, he would save the last inch of the cigarette. My mom he let my mom smoke cigarette butts. So I think, like, I think a a healthy marriage, you should at least let your wife smoke your cigarette butts. At at bare minimum. I mean, I think, like, a good husband

8:48Richard Greaser is a provider, you know, for the family. And part of providing is offering a ton of non KYC cigarettes to your spouse.

9:01Rod Palmer Right. I mean, listen, I understand. You don't want your wife out in Hollywood. Maybe this is just

9:07Richard Greaser it's one of those there's one of the sinister impacts of fiat, which is that, you know, people, in their coping with how things are how poor things are financially in the fiat world, they're they're saying that,

9:27Richard Greaser women it's kind of like the reverse of the psyop that women need to be in the workforce. They need to be taxpayers. They need to operate in the KYC economy.

9:42Rod Palmer Right. And I agree with Jordan Peterson that, you know, you don't want your wife out in public and everybody in the community sees her smoking menthol cigarettes. Like that's embarrassing. Like, if I had a home, you know, in the privacy of your of your home, in your bedroom even, you know, being able to smoke your your Marlboro red cigarette butts, I just, you know, we have to have some decency.

10:08Richard Greaser Well, how do you think America did it for you said non compliance is Fourth of July?

10:15Rod Palmer Well, I, this is the first time that I can remember where everybody was posting mean derogatory non compliant memes about the president. So I don't think that it's, a coincidence

10:30Rod Palmer that, you know, this is all kind of peaking around fourth of July. I think we just were on it's summertime. We're on a very noncompliant, you know, attitude, noncompliant, just feeling

10:44Rod Palmer vibe, so to speak. And now we're all just, we're making fun of the pros and they call him retarded and saying like that he, you know, he's too stupid and he needs to, everybody wants him to quit. You know, he want the president to quit. And I, I can't think of the last time all of the, you know, most, most, most of the country was all, you know, tweeting at the president to go to delete his account, so to speak. Yeah. I think probably the last time was George Bush To this day. In Twitter, this wasn't big enough back then to to really to share those memes. No. The the meme culture wasn't,

11:15Richard Greaser the the infrastructure just wasn't as developed. I mean, there were there weren't open open source meme creation platforms like GIMP that existed.

11:24Rod Palmer Right.

11:26Richard Greaser Everything was like closed source. I mean, you know, CNN was the chief meme maker in The US. It was really a dark time in,

11:34Rod Palmer in American history. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I mean, Fox News, it was it's all we had, right? Like, there's a lot of or Boomer parents, they just they still love the Fox News names and they're really popular, you know, on Facebook, but it those aren't good enough. Those aren't enough to take down a presidency. Definitely.

11:54Richard Greaser Well, I I think America did pretty well. You know, I had people all over the country DMing me, telling me about their their first experience in purchasing non KYC cigarettes using the Lightning Network. That was very exciting to see. It

12:15Richard Greaser just seemed like they like, you know, it seemed like things were moving in a positive direction. One of the complaints that I do have, one of the things that made me feel a little bit frustrated was that the Alex B guy over at Originals magazine, he tried to make it less about the Lightning Network and more about eCash,

12:41Richard Greaser which is just another it's like the off brand version of Custodial Lightning. Yeah. I I I liked it. Yes. You can you can use it as a way to That's it. That's Snoke. Yeah. I mean, you can use it as a way to acquire the value of human consumers, but the the network just isn't built out

13:02Richard Greaser enough to where it makes sense. There's not enough walls supporting it. And so for the time being, you know, the custodial lightning route is the way to go, in my opinion, for not KYC secrets.

13:19Richard Greaser Or or I mean, you could you could use a a fully custodial solution. I mean, I I was using Zooskullen, to to get to my transactions personally.

13:30Rod Palmer Yeah. Like I like I was saying, I didn't mean to step on you there, but, it's to me, eCash is the clove cigarette of smoking, but it also made me think about, you know, being able to help your your son, you know, maybe he's in first or second grade, maybe helping him buy his first non KYC

13:53Rod Palmer Sierra with with custodial lightning. I think that's just like a really powerful bonding experience that I wish I I hope to have with my son someday when he's old enough for to use lightning. But every day, it'll be a great a great day when that happens.

14:09Richard Greaser But, yeah, I mean, it's I I think the important the important lesson is we're we're a few days after the, the fourth, and I I think it's important to carry the momentum forward, the this non compliant momentum to to say,

14:27Richard Greaser you know, the July 4 is it could be every every day could be noncompliance day. Not to try and take away from the July 4, you know, which is kind of like a rallying cry, but it's almost like a New Year's resolution. Like every fourth, you know, commit to to one new way of being non compliant going forward.

14:50Rod Palmer Yeah. People say, like, live like you were dying. And I think that's good advice. Like, if you if you had ten days to live, how compliant would you be? Well, you can be that noncompliant every day. What's stopping you? Well, one of one of the stories that I wanted to get into,

15:07Richard Greaser right off the bat, which I think is pretty important, is, Quinnicus over at Club Underground is leading it's looking like he he's kinda taken up the mantle kinda like Martin Luther did. He's taken a stand against Podkoff's support of El Salvador. This is interesting.

15:28Rod Palmer Yeah. What's what's he doing down there? What's going on?

15:31Richard Greaser Well, he he stated on on Twitter,

15:36Rod Palmer and I'm unprepared. I didn't have it pulled up. I I had it up here. Well, I mean, I'm paraphrasing it, but he said it's it's stop stop acting like Bitcoin is like, or El Salvador is the Bitcoin Holy Land. It's pathetic. It's fucking pathetic.

15:50Richard Greaser Yeah. Yeah. That that's a good summary of what he said. I just found it.

15:55Rod Palmer Obviously, what was it what was that in response to? Do you know? I think I think he's just he's sick and

16:00Richard Greaser tired of all that. But the he I mean, I think probably part of what so he tweeted this on the seventh. It was a few days after the fourth. I think he really saw the importance of noncompliance day. And and what Bikayle is doing is he's eradicating noncompliance in his country. And, you know, how how

16:25Richard Greaser that contradicts a lot of the the core ethos of of what many of the early users of Bitcoin were talking about and promoting. It's kind of hard to reconcile and support that. Be a rational,

16:41Rod Palmer being a non compliant human being. Right. Just because, I mean, think about if Americans and the CEO thought the same way about The United States or people just in general thought the same about The United States as they do for El Salvador just because El Salvador has Bitcoin. Well, America has a lot of Bitcoin too and that doesn't mean the government you know, that the president is good and that we should comply with the government. I mean, that's it it's just because the marketing is friendly. Like, it's it doesn't make sense. Why would you why would you fall for that? Yeah. I mean, I think,

17:14Richard Greaser I just think a lot of the, you know, the Bitcoin plums, they they just still haven't seen what Podkoff is. And and they just kinda fall for it in their you know, whatever the the new meme is, whether it's, you know, volcano bonds. And, like, we we saw this with the Protestant revolution. You know, what what that was was there was a market developed for a different school of thought because the Catholic and church had such control

17:43Richard Greaser over the information channels. And, like, one of the things that led to the Protestant Reformation was the ability to spread information through, the printing press. And today, what we're seeing with shows like Club Underground and just the general intellectual Silk Road

18:03Richard Greaser is that it's it's really fracturing PodCon's control over the, you know, all the different influencers in the industry. And, you know, Philip appears to be fracturing from it in the same way that that Martin Luther fractured from the Catholic church.

18:25Rod Palmer Right. Like, now when you have the ability to share information and value for value transactions peer to peer in a decentralized fashion.

18:38Rod Palmer And now that you have that ability, you don't have to be a cyn for the state. You don't have to be a cyn for the local power structure, the authority. You don't have to be a saint for your church. You don't have to be a saint for anybody.

18:56Rod Palmer You can you can be a sovereign. And why so why why not why not start living that way? Yep.

19:07Richard Greaser Yeah. So, like, he he put out a few demands or or what, you know, people are calling his his thesis. Only one thesis? Yeah. And I'll read a few of them.

19:25Richard Greaser He doesn't like Chivo Wallet as being the, you know, the sanctioned wallet of Bitcoiners. He doesn't believe that River should be the sole Lightning service provider for everybody, for custodial Lightning.

19:42Richard Greaser And he believes that, you know, Plex can, you know, allow other influencers to do the thinking for them and not just Max Pizer and BKaley and Ocean and, you know, all of these other other individuals that kinda fall under the the BKaley reading of Podkoff. Right.

20:03Rod Palmer You should be able to you should be able to or be orange pills by any podcaster of your choice It shouldn't just you shouldn't just be a Max Keiser approved Podcove approved, you know, like a cardinal of of of of of information. You should be able to listen to any podcast or any podcast you want and start your own podcast unit and share that information,

20:32Rod Palmer and orange peel your listeners, orange pill your followers, and they can send you 10%, of their income and stats for based on fountain to support you and to support your podcast. It doesn't have to be prod count for proof. Yeah. And,

20:46Richard Greaser I I think, you know, I I really like that people are are comparing this to the Protestant revolution because, you know, Protestants obviously do Christianity correctly

21:01Richard Greaser compared to all the other, you know, factions of it. Like,

21:05Rod Palmer Like, it's the only noncompliant form of Christianity.

21:08Richard Greaser Yeah. Exactly. It's like it's it's the American version of Christianity. Because of its

21:17Rod Palmer its words and mouth wise. Yeah. And the Catholic church then, it's it's red it's red coats, so to speak, to try to to attack and to prevent these these nodes from breaking off and being decentralized, but they lost.

21:31Richard Greaser And I think in the same way, Podkop's gonna fail in protecting their doctrine as well.

21:42Rod Palmer Yeah. It it it wouldn't be possible if you weren't able to tie to your favorite podcast, SaaS on Fountain or through Lightning Wallets, But now you can do that peer to peer. And this is that this is how these decentralized,

21:59Rod Palmer you know, nodes, these federations, that's how they'll survive without Podkop. So,

22:04Richard Greaser you know, who who are the other Lightning service providers that you think are are noteworthy that can replace River as being kind of the, you know, the the sole,

22:20Richard Greaser liquidity provider for Cheetah Wallet? Well, that's

22:24Rod Palmer there's a lot of people interested in it. I think that, every time I've been to El Salvador, Cash App's branding is everywhere. Strike,

22:37Rod Palmer Jack Mallers, Strike company, their branding is everywhere and they have, they have big, they have big lightning liquidity providers with, you know, a lot of node connections, a lot of, tied up capital to support those networks, and I think they would love to get their hands on the the El Salvador government's

22:59Rod Palmer Lightning official Lightning channel. Yeah. Even you had you had European ones too, but I think the I think that the ones on the ground are Cash App and Strike. Yeah. I I wonder if they could

23:12Richard Greaser I I doubt that El Salvador has any interest in this. Like, you know, one of the benefits of using a sole lightning service provider like like River in the country for for the state sanctioned custodial Lightning Wallet is the ability to easily crush noncompliance. And the more the more LSPs there are, the more room for noncompliance

23:36Richard Greaser there is. It's just more more effort it is, more ground that needs to be covered.

23:42Rod Palmer I think, Daniel, I think River has a a hold on it for now, but if if El Salvador wants to go the compliance route instead of, you know, and really bolster their strength, there's there's a dark horse in the race and it's Bitfinex. Bitfinex has a huge lightning wallet and they have a you know, like dark, but

24:04Rod Palmer seemingly close relationship with the El Salvador government, it means Tether is always lurking in the distance. Yeah.

24:14Richard Greaser I mean, Tether definitely has some pretty deep roots to Podkopf. There's some some deep connections going back and forth there, but should be concerning to the average individual. When they when they see Big Connects, when they see Tether, they should be, you know, concerned. Okay. Podkopf is about to try and, you know, come in and and dictate it.

24:37Rod Palmer Right. They want somebody to buy the volcano bonds. It's a it's a very exciting story,

24:43Richard Greaser to watch. I mean, to watch it closely. And, yeah, I think it's important, you know, for people out there to, you know, give give props to Konekaris and what he's doing. He's very brave. It's it's it's it's not easy to go up against

25:01Richard Greaser Podkoff narratives.

25:03Rod Palmer Can you can you talk a little bit about who Quinnicus is for people who might not know?

25:11Richard Greaser Gwenykaras is not weird.

25:16Rod Palmer Does he have a spaces that he, daily spaces that people could listen to or a podcast?

25:22Richard Greaser I don't think you know, I don't know about Twitter species. And I know he was active in there. I I haven't really followed the species as closely as you have. But I know Carnivorous has a show called Pueblo Underground on YouTube.

25:40Rod Palmer That's right. Yeah. Yeah. It looks like he has a a a weekly spaces, a weekday spaces in the morning. It's called,

25:51Rod Palmer GM Bitcoin. So good morning. Hashtag good morning. It looks like he's a co host, frequently in that space. So

26:01Richard Greaser do you think Twitter spaces are kind of, this is where, you know, these kind of revolutionary ideas and concepts are coming from in the Bitcoin space. Like, you know, they'll come and listen to the People Weekly podcast and then they'll espouse our ideas on the spaces.

26:20Rod Palmer Oh, yeah. I think used to be until a couple of years ago, there was a term for it, it's called the water cooler and they called it a water cooler conversation. So you'd stand by the water cooler and other coworkers and colleagues would come get a glass of water, a cup of water, and you guys would just chit chat and make small talk. And it sucked because if you didn't have cool coworkers and you didn't have smoke breaks that you could take because you didn't have a cool job,

26:47Rod Palmer You know, you, you had to talk about the girl from accounting in her CrossFit class, or she tried to sell you some pyramid scheme thing she found out about on Facebook. But now we have, we work from a lot of us work from home. And even if you don't work from home, you can put in your headphones at work and, and you can listen to a, a weekday morning spaces and you can talk to other plants and other non compliant, Bitcoiners and you can, debate macroeconomics, you know,

27:15Rod Palmer memes, anything you want. And you can even talk revolutionary ideas. And I think that's where a lot of that revolutionary discussion in it back in the revolutionary war times, it was, you know, the taverns. People would would gather in the taverns, they'd drink beer, and they would rail about paying taxes.

27:35Rod Palmer But now it's, it's on it's on Twitter spaces. Yeah.

27:41Richard Greaser Twitter Spaces, you know, appear to be kind of that bastion of freedom where where the revolution is, is happening. And and what's incredible about it is is it seems to be kind of a concerted effort by the plebs

27:58Richard Greaser to completely invalidate Podcove's, you know, attempt to control over the Twitter space ecosystem. So whenever Podcove launches a new running Twitter spaces,

28:12Richard Greaser it's almost like a 100 will

28:14Rod Palmer spring up in opposition to it. Right. In the competition for scarce attention from people who, you know, are trying to avoid thinking about their nine to five job, you only have so many options. And if the person who you think posts the funniest Bitcoin memes or, you know, somebody who you really look up to like Neil Jacobs,

28:40Rod Palmer if they're in spaces in the morning and you see that at the top of your timeline, that's going to catch your attention, but there's, you know, there's only a couple of inches at the top of your Twitter timeline where you can show you how many spaces are concurrently running. And if you don't make the top three, you know, people may not, it's like not being on the first page of Google results. Like if you can crowd out PodConv, spaces, the little logos in that three or four inches at the top of your time line, you can completely censor them.

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29:56Richard Greaser I think this is this is one of the, you know, the tactics that I think is important for the disobeyed plan to understand, you know, that's joining us in the part of the battle that's part of control is that, you do have the the ability to influence the influencers. And your your Twitter space will perform

30:22Richard Greaser much better, you know, when the influencers show up because what happens is is individuals with these, you know, verified accounts, that that pay you on, you know, the Twitter tax. They

30:40Richard Greaser or maybe Twitter is a better term for it. They they get more promotion. That's why, you know, I think I get a notification, like, every time Ted's here and he's speaking in the space.

30:54Rod Palmer Oh, yeah. And I For sure. One way one way you can use this against them, you know, is they are paying that Twitter toll, but there's an old saying, you gotta pay the troll toll as well. So you control influencers who are,

31:12Rod Palmer verified. And when they respond to you or they retweet you to try to dunk on you to get more likes than you, that is your platform and that allows you to get more followers. And the more followers you have, the the better you can resist their ratio. It's a simple defense.

31:29Richard Greaser Yeah. Yeah. I almost wonder if we should do, like, a a weekly segment talking about tactics for the dissident club. Yeah. Like, a

31:40Rod Palmer yeah. Like, a cypherpunk cookbook or something where you can troll the influencers and and use their incentives and use their vanity to your advantage?

31:53Richard Greaser I think one of the number one tactics is to point out it is probably the simple defense, is to point out how many Twitter followers that they bought. And I know Elon, you know, is making this, you know, more difficult to verify, But you could still kind of come to conclusions.

32:16Richard Greaser And, you know, when you when you point it out when you when you question their proof of work, I know that really gets a million skin. And so that's a it's a very quick way to

32:29Rod Palmer question their proof of work, question their incentives, point out a very pedantic, incorrect point that they made drives them nuts But as you said, Elon Musk is making it harder and, you know,

32:46Rod Palmer they didn't win the war, but they won a battle. Making likes private, you know, it was a known tactic like Dan Held would like his own tweets and like his own memes and he still does, but you no longer can prove it. You can no longer look and see if they're liking their own tweets to boost them, piss themselves in the algorithm, but you can assume they are.

33:08Richard Greaser Yeah.

33:10Rod Palmer That is you can do it too.

33:12Richard Greaser I mean, we we should definitely troll, you know, Dennis Porter, you know, he's been doing a lot of work to to raise people to politicians and make sure that we all have the right to self custody, or at least have or given permission to have that right. You know, we're we're going to say that, you know, whether or not anybody says that we can or can't do it, if we, you know, still can malco quietly do it. We we have the right to be malco quiet, if we choose. But, but I it'd be interesting to troll Dennis, you know, and try to to try to get him to focus on protecting Pleb's memes

33:51Richard Greaser and, you know, coming up with some sort of legislation against meme theft.

33:57Rod Palmer Right. I don't know if anybody saw it, but Dennis just got, in conjunction with Bitcoin Ordinals magazine, excuse me, they just got the right to self custody added to the Republican party platform. And if they got that, Dennis and Ordinals magazine,

34:15Rod Palmer if they truly care about the little guy, like they say they do, they should also get, you know, copywriting to memes so people like Dan Held, you know, can't steal Pleb's memes. That should be in the Republican Party platform.

34:30Richard Greaser I I agree. I mean, that would be that'd be very revolutionary. That'd be revolutionary. I mean, they're like, all all the focus on IP has always been about the corporations. It's never been about the club. The club's beams have

34:48Richard Greaser you know, clubs have always been putting out the best content outside of the credential journalist, of course. And there's nobody there's nobody focusing on protecting their hard work.

35:04Richard Greaser It's all directed at, you know, the big corporations, in in in the music music industry, in Hollywood. And it's it's time to focus on the plebs and protect the plebs and bring restoring some sort of sense of law and order

35:23Richard Greaser into the world of Internet

35:25Rod Palmer means. Right. Pavlov is getting rich by exploiting the creative labor of plebs. Yeah.

35:34Richard Greaser I I could see this being a, you know, major issue discussed in the next presidential debate. You know, it was great the last debate to hear Donald Trump say so many nice things about Bitcoin. I'd like to hear him talk about the Bitcoin plan.

35:54Rod Palmer Yeah. He talked he said a lot of nice things about Bitcoin, but I wanna hear him talk about or say nice things and about how he will protect Bitcoiners. EquinorPlex,

36:03Richard Greaser especially. I mean, one one thing that'd be really cool is for Subsidy, to support the development of open source meme platforms like DIMP. That would be fundamental and potentially, because there's always subsidies directed at corporations

36:23Richard Greaser and even media companies. We don't get those types of subsidies.

36:30Rod Palmer Think about a huge political strategic move.

36:35Rod Palmer I mean, Republicans could flip California red for the first time in decades. If Donald Trump offered home binders in California with subsidies

36:47Rod Palmer for their energy costs. I mean, you're you're paying 50¢ a kilowatt hour in San Francisco or Los Angeles, but if you get subsidy from the government, from the, you know, the Republican Trump administration And you get that you get your cost, your electricity cost down to, like, 10¢ per kilowatt hour

37:06Richard Greaser as a game changer. Yeah. I bet they would get, animal and extremely excited. You know? I mean, you could you could divert all the money from electric cars and solar panels and subsidizing activities like that into subsidizing

37:22Richard Greaser pro miners.

37:23Rod Palmer Yeah. You wouldn't even have to yeah, it wouldn't be neutral to the deficit. You could spend billions of dollars supporting planned home miners and not even

37:34Richard Greaser add to the fiscal deficit. It would be a huge win. I think that's a that's a great issue. Now I know a lot of that that's a very, like, contentious issue because, you know, I could already hear the Texas Coalition Against Bitcoin Mining freaking out about that, about the only intentional climate change. Because, like, the the benefit to these climate activist groups with the way the mining is working right now is very centralized, so they're able to, you know, target these, you know, entities like Riot and and Marathon, very easily. But if you distribute

38:11Richard Greaser the hash rate and you subsidize the distribution of the hash rate instead of subsidizing the centralization of it, that that spreads out intentional climate change to the point where, you know, it's kind of untenable to to even, you know, try and contend with.

38:31Rod Palmer It is also better for the climate. Instead of heating up Texas, which is already too hot, you You know, you can move some of that climate change to Canada and give them milder winters. I think everybody there would be happy about that.

38:43Richard Greaser Yeah. I agree. I I don't have a lot of hope for Canada. I mean, they've taken a very strong stance against anti or against, intentional climate change over over the last few years and and and targeting flood miners.

38:59Rod Palmer Well, you know, I share the same, skepticism of Canada file. You know, there's been some really bad, results in, in stab elections that Justin Trudeau has called. And it looks like, you know, the momentum is swinging, like Canada could have a Bitcoin or president, or prime minister in the next few years if Pierre Poliver can pull it off.

39:22Rod Palmer Imagine Trump and Poliver both in office at the same time. Like what a huge bullish, you know, turn for North America. San Antonio is getting he's bidding Mexico to make Bitcoin their legal tender,

39:39Rod Palmer El Salvador. I mean, we could we could flip the whole Western, Northwestern Hemisphere in in a matter of less than a decade.

39:46Richard Greaser I think, you know, Canada has a few fundamental issues that The US doesn't have, that is really setting them back from, you know, getting to a point where it's possible.

39:58Rod Palmer Lack of diversity is one.

40:01Richard Greaser What is it? Biodiversity?

40:02Rod Palmer Lack of diversity. It's everybody's light up there.

40:06Richard Greaser Yeah. Maybe. What happened? Yours, though? Mine mine are number one, you know, there's still some servient to the British crown.

40:16Rod Palmer Yeah.

40:17Richard Greaser They they never had their their noncompliance day. And and I think that's that's kinda like step number one. I know that it it takes a lot of work to get to the point. You know, not everybody is born an American like us, you know, with with freedom and noncompliance in our veins. It's something, you know, people people have to learn to adopt. But but

40:41Richard Greaser the the second part of the issue here is that they don't have their own Dennis Porter yet that I've seen. That's big. That's a big handicap. Yeah. I mean, if you don't if you don't have somebody, lobbying for

40:58Rod Palmer you They have Francis, but he fled the country.

41:02Richard Greaser Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what Francis is doing. I mean, he he's all bullish, all liquid, you know, chilling chilling a protocol that nobody ever uses.

41:13Rod Palmer He was, he was chilling. He was sipping Jack Dorsey today too.

41:17Richard Greaser Oh, really?

41:18Rod Palmer Yeah. Yeah. He said that, I'd have to find the tweet.

41:23Richard Greaser I'll find it. I'm gonna pull up and then pull that space to to look at what's going on on Liquid

41:30Rod Palmer and see how unprecedented it is. Francis today, he tweeted, I know very few people have them have had a more positive impact on Bitcoin than Jack Dorsey. I believe in him when it comes to doing what he thinks is best for Bitcoin and consider him quote unquote on my side. I don't care to justify why to anybody and he certainly doesn't owe an explanation to anyone. Interesting.

41:55Richard Greaser What did it looks like Rentals. Space took liquid off the website. So you can't even see what's going on on the Why does this mean there's nothing going on on Liquid? Yeah. It it wasn't worth the bandwidth covering zero transactions.

42:10Rod Palmer Wow. I can't believe Seth's,

42:12Richard Greaser transaction fees are so low. Yeah. It's it's weird. It's almost like like Originals wasn't as big of a deal as I really thought it was. I know, Udy Udy was like trying to be on ominous, you know, promising that we wouldn't be able to use the network to send a transaction

42:35Richard Greaser here pretty soon. But I think he's just kinda, you know, shouting into the wind and doesn't really have anything up his sleeve. He's kinda out of tricks.

42:47Rod Palmer Hey, he's just fretting FUD. Yeah. Yeah. They they did take liquid off. But their enterprise sponsor is still black streamed. Truly, I I wonder

42:57Richard Greaser why I mean, how how

42:59Rod Palmer was the The ambiguity was making fun of the lack of of activity. I I bet it just wasn't worth the bandwidth.

43:06Richard Greaser Probably not. But, like, how how else can you figure out what's going on? I mean, I'm gonna have to spend some time trying to figure out, you know, how many vanity do and and see what's happening on the liquid blockchain now. The mempools out space doesn't have that. I I think that's kind of a breaking story. We just kind of stumbled across here.

43:29Rod Palmer Now, hold on. If you if if you look at the bottom of the page, under networks, it has the Liquid Explorer. At least it has a link to it. So at least there's that link is there. Cannot see.

43:43Richard Greaser Oh, yeah. Yeah. It would Well,

43:45Rod Palmer mempool.space and liquid.network

43:48Richard Greaser are not they're not working. They're down right now for me. So Yeah. I mean, all all these blocks that are bad for me have one transaction in them. So there's, like, one transaction happening per minute. Only one to two transact there's a few of these blocks that have two in them. So, yeah. You know, I I think, you know, the story the story here is, nobody's using liquid. Even even though Francis is showing it, nobody nobody's using it. So Not even Aqua wallet users. Do do do you think that that means that nobody's actually using Aqua wallet? At last, I think the proof is in the pudding right there on the network activity. People people prefer custodial lightning.

44:31Richard Greaser That's that's the thing.

44:35Rod Palmer It's it's it's completely true. I mean, maybe I think this might, you know, be the the fate of eCash. I think there's a lot of hype, but there's not a lot of real evidence that anybody's actually using it. Well,

44:49Richard Greaser it's so we're we're coming up to, we're we're gonna be doing the old guys magazine conferences coming up here real soon. I just wanted to touch on this real quick before we go get over the fountain based. It seems like politics is gonna be replacing Originals as the the center discussion.

45:11Richard Greaser I think it is I wonder if Orgnos magazine is going to rebrand Politics magazine

45:19Rod Palmer Yeah, they're trying to take on CNN That would be I mean, think about it Think about political news about Joe Biden, Donald Trump, AOC, Dennis Porter, taxes,

45:32Rod Palmer regulation, the war in Ukraine but all from a Bitcoin perspective I think that's what we need or at least I think

45:41Richard Greaser that's gonna be what we get. I I think David Bailey is trying to attempt to be the next Rupert Murdoch. Wow.

45:48Rod Palmer I didn't think about that angle. Now but now now the signs are there. Yeah. I mean, like, what what would the rebrand? Would it be called Politics Magazine? I mean, Bitcoin Magazine, Paul Ordinals Magazine, Politics Magazine. Why not? I don't think anybody else has taken that name. It's too obvious.

46:07Richard Greaser I I think there's a pretty bright feature for their for them doing that. I mean, imagine if they brought Dennis Porter on as a comment political commentator. What type more type of numbers they would do. Yeah. That's the type of thing that you think the plebs, you know, could could send their grandmas to to watch and they would enjoy it.

46:29Rod Palmer Oh, yeah. I mean, there's gonna be a whole new generation of orange pilled grandmas that are gonna wanna watch news all day.

46:37Richard Greaser We we just kinda, like, blasted through all these toppers. Do you have any anything else you wanna chat about before we get into the fountain piece?

46:46Rod Palmer No. I I don't think so. I think that, I wanted to reiterate how important I think it is the Bitcoin reformation is taking place. And, I think that it's still early, but I think that there's there's room for like the intellectual silk road and the Bitcoin reformation. There's a lot of opportunity to collaborate there. So,

47:08Richard Greaser I'll be interested in watching those developments. I agree. I mean, like I feel kind of a kindred spirit with crimicaries because we're here launching a news reformation at the same time that he is launching

47:27Richard Greaser a Bitcoin reformation and I think those two things kinda happening simultaneously are really important. Yeah, I totally agree. All right, well, on to the Found So our first so we all eat boosted us 20,000 sats twice with the the same cup. Oh, wait. No. The messages are slightly different. So I'll read both of them.

47:52Richard Greaser I think this is a mistake, but appreciate the double boost. What what if you should do this accidentally to us? If you if you accidentally double boost us, it'd be much appreciated. But we all need to I need some non KYC SIGs while getting yelled at by the HOA president for popping off fireworks. Complied for NGU. Happy fourth, you beagle blowing motherfuckers. Well, happy fourth to you as well. Oh, we all the second one says,

48:21Richard Greaser I need some non KYC cigs while getting yelled at by the neighbor for fireworks. Damn it. HOAs comply with the rules for energy. Yeah. I mean, HOAs and and neighbors, they they don't always appreciate the non compliant antics on the July 4. And it's just one of these things that, you know, if if you're living in America, then you have to understand is that the fourth of July is all about noncompliance, so there's nothing we can do about it. And, like, if you if you don't support that if you don't support the non compliance on the July 4,

48:54Richard Greaser then, you know, we'll help you pack your bags, and you can move to Canada.

49:03Rod Palmer Right. Right. The the the reason that the domesticated dogs rather than wolves and even, you know, many Bitcoin or not, excuse me, not Bitcoin, many military veterans, they hate fireworks is because fireworks represent non compliance on the fourth of July. It just drives them crazy. So understand that not everybody's gonna get it, but,

49:25Rod Palmer that it is your fundamental right as an American to blow shit up and smoke down KYC cigarettes on the July 4.

49:32Richard Greaser So don't let it stop you. Wait. You know, all all these all these cat ladies and and like I think I think it's different, you know, with the military veterans, you know, not like in the fireworks. It's a whole different story than, you know, the the yuppie cat lady who's got a stick up her ass and and doesn't appreciate freedom. Like, they those like, they just have to they have to understand and accept that their house is just gonna reek a secondhand cigarette smoke and gunpowder, and there's nothing that they're gonna be able to do about it. That's right.

50:09Rod Palmer Mulan Laid. We like,

50:13Richard Greaser one thing that was beautiful, like, I I saw satellite imagery of The United States on the July 4, and there was just a cloud of smoke hanging over the entire country from the combination of the non compliant smoking and, The fireworks. And the fireworks.

50:32Rod Palmer Yeah. Absolutely. It was beautiful. Brought a tear to my eye. Our next page is from user83301 Boosted us 20,000

50:47Richard Greaser sats Didn't say anything, but thank you for the boost We we keep on having all these girls boost us. She's user who's kind of like a safer punk looking green haired.

50:60Rod Palmer Yeah. She's she's boosted to four.

51:03Richard Greaser I bet she actually looks like that one too. The next one is miss Huddl not four twenty, you'll you'll see her in a or not so secret in a way. She says, I plan on smoking this July 4. I can only dream of being as non compliant as you fine journalist. How can I acquire non KYC cigarettes still uncertain to me? Any suggestions?

51:30Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, there there's a few ways to acquire them. You you can I mean, there's sites like Local Cigarettes? You know, there's platforms like Bisc. You know, I've been pressuring them to, to actually, like, support the sale of peer to peer cigarettes on there. But, they they haven't been very receptive or open to it yet, which is just, you know, kind of alarming and shocking to me. But I what I've I started doing

52:02Richard Greaser before I knew anybody is I would go on Bisk and I would reach out to these people and try to facilitate these peer to peer bitcoin transactions. And I would ask them if they had any cigarettes for sale as well. And so that might be a good way to start transacting that way. But, like, ultimately, it comes down to

52:26Richard Greaser building trust in a community around you, people that you know to create this network. And there's these black markets that firm all over the place.

52:42Richard Greaser As long as people know there's a demand for it, there there will ultimately be supply for it. And so that's that's one of the big ones. And that that's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to educate people on the demand side for non KYC cigarettes as much as possible, so that the supply side will catch up. And

53:03Rod Palmer Yeah. Yeah. And if you are you should get a ticket. You should come to Ordinals Magazine Conference in Nashville in a few weeks. And if, we finally meet, I'll sell you your first non TYC cigarette, custodial lightning wallet to custodial lightning wallet. So maybe it's a date. We'll see.

53:26Rod Palmer Our next boost is from eight MythRander eight MythRander, excuse me It's a, profile picture of a chimp, and they boosted us 7,777 stats, and their comment, people for dead, our founders were terrorists. And, you know, as the saying goes, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. So,

53:50Richard Greaser depending on how you look at it, you're right. Yeah. I mean, it it all comes down to who who is the one writing the history books. And in this case, we are the ones writing the history books. You know, it's the Bitcoin podcasters that are documenting what's happening right now. And, you know, we we are the victors. Bitcoin has won and so therefore, you know, I I don't know if, the word terrorist is, you know, really one that we're gonna use when we're writing the history books. I I think we're more gonna use freedom fighter. Absolutely. Next for the boost. Eight mifferndear. That's that's a cool name. I like that.

54:28Richard Greaser Next boost is from Orange Mart for 5000¢. And, who asks, would win a celebrity cage match at the Bitcoin conference? Nick, rising star, Carter, or Richard Grazer? I thought about throwing my name in the hat. You know, I saw Nick Carter's

54:47Richard Greaser tweet about, you know, a c list, influencer. And that that kind of ruled out my interest in participating in the event because I'm not a c list influencer. I I'm a tier a journalist. And so I didn't really meet his requirements. I actually exceeded them. I was too credentialed to take the fight.

55:08Richard Greaser But if he ever raised his, his, expectations as what his opponent you know, would look like. And and and part of the reason is is he's relatively new to the fight game.

55:24Richard Greaser So I I think he's trying to get, you know, some fights under his belt before he starts taking on, the heavyweights like like myself. But I I think it'd be a pretty interesting competitive fight. One of the edges I have on Nick is is he's 100% a vaper, which

55:41Rod Palmer is just like the most beta thing ever. Ever Yeah, I don't think I don't think that a vapor has ever submitted or defeated a real cigarette smoker, you know, in combat Our next, next page is from client warrior

55:58Rod Palmer qw place says 3,000 sass, and his comment was fuck yeah, which, you know, July 4, noncompliance day. Some you know, that's all it needs to be said. Fuck yeah. I like qw and those guys in, blockchain

56:13Richard Greaser blockchain. Cool guys. You you read the ad for them. That was really great that they played on the show this week.

56:21Rod Palmer Yeah. Yeah. We should, we should maybe include the ad in our our shit too.

56:25Richard Greaser Yeah. I'll I'll put it at the beginning.

56:28Rod Palmer So, yeah, you're if you're ad we're talking about is the one at the beginning of this episode, that's what we're talking about.

56:36Richard Greaser Next one is rev huddle for twenty one twenty one staff. He says and and that's that's full two seater retrospective. So it's proving you again that permanent money creates permanent culture all through the lines of proper credential journalism.

56:54Richard Greaser Bitcoin is thermodynamically sound. Permaculture is thermodynamically sound culture. Yeah. I mean, I think there's definitely a lot of overlap between credential journalism and

57:07Richard Greaser permaculture. And that's a pretty interesting topic that maybe we should explore further on the show at some point.

57:14Rod Palmer Yeah. Absolutely. I I totally agree. I follow Red Hoddle, on Noster, and, I see I see him in some of the intellectual Silk Road and the adjacent Telegram chats. He's got some interesting things to say. You should definitely check him out. I don't think I found my father I'm looking for right now. There's two rev models on Monster. Make sure you follow the right one. I think, I think the rev model you're looking for is like

57:42Richard Greaser his picture is, one of the guys from the 300 movie. Let's see. I think it's are you sure it's not the, the one with, looks like it's got cannabis

57:54Rod Palmer as, like, the Oh, yeah. An idiot's change. Yeah. That that's probably him. Four. Nice. Our next news is from Blizah, b l y z z a h, based on a thousand s. The comment was, this should be enough for KYC Marlboro Red. Yeah, it should be. It should be. We'll spend it on on KYC

58:15Rod Palmer Marlboro red, but appreciate the boost.

58:19Richard Greaser Yeah. The the problem with, like, the KYC supermarket is they don't they don't let you purchase a similar suit of this. That's right. But that's why the only the only solution is to go to the manicure I see market. The next one is from Pies for 420 sats. It says,

58:40Richard Greaser this is the last one actually. He says, dope intro song. Thank you very much, Pies. Put a lot of work into that one. Okay. And so they call it you know,

58:53Richard Greaser it's important to use music to to articulate these ideas and and the song, you know, that opened up last week's show, Noncompliant Fourth and Third, Noncompliant seventeen seventy six. It's just, you know, what I was trying to do with that was I was trying to depict, you know, the peak of what he needs to be American, which is to be nonquiet.

59:17Richard Greaser And it's good to good to hear that. You know, some people really appreciated that. Well, yeah. And that wraps up, this. You got you got any final final thoughts, for the listeners?

59:30Rod Palmer No. I think we covered it all today. So thanks for the boost and, thanks for the feedback. Last thing I'll say,

59:38Richard Greaser apologize for for going a little bit over the top with my noncompliance. I I have recovered. I am, you know, still still, staying the course of of being noncompliant,

59:56Richard Greaser but, you know, I'm pacing myself a little bit more. We I mean,

59:60Rod Palmer we need you to pace yourself. Keep reporting credentialed news.

1:00:04Richard Greaser 100%. Well, I'll I'll be here. We'll we'll have we'll have the next show out on time next week. That's the point. Well, thanks for listening, guys.

1:00:18Kailey Welch Thank you for tuning in to this week's episode of the Bugle Weekly. We apologize for publishing the show late. The dissident pleb is on the rise, and the intellectual Silk Road is flourishing, despite Podkomp's attempts to waste everyone's time with politics, just like they did with ordinals. The future is bright, and the people are noncompliant. You are not alone out there, so keep your chin up. The Bugle Weekly is the most credentialed podcast out there. Thanks again for tuning in and boosting the show, and we will see you next week.

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