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3:55Richard Greaser Alrighty, folks. Welcome to this edition of the Bugle Weekly. It's Richard Greaser. Today, I'm joined as usual by Ron Palmer, and I just wanted to start out the episode and I want to address the social unrest that's happening

4:14Richard Greaser in The United States right now. All across the country, there are boomers, they're in the streets, they are protesting But there's no Kings protest and you know, there's some young people too.

4:30Richard Greaser But mostly it's old people. There's people that are upset about Donald Trump having mean tweets. They've gone from mean tweets to psychopathic tweets. They're getting more and more unhinged, but they're mad about the tweets either way or the true social posts. You got people that are upset at the idea of their entitlements getting taken away. You got people that are just being fed Plaid Slop and they're upset about it. The Plaid Slop is winding them up. So they're in the streets and they're mad.

5:06Richard Greaser And part of the reason why they're mad is because what is being shown to them is a clear mirror of what The United States is. They're seeing it through President Trump. President Trump is a mirror of the psychopathy

5:26Richard Greaser and the just blatant corruption the United States government has been a part of since the inception. This is not a new phenomenon. The United States has been pillaging the rest of the world, pillaging their own people,

5:43Richard Greaser government, and they've done it successfully and they sold people this bag of goods, that it was something different, that these wars that were fought that killed millions of people, Vietnam, the Iraq War, all these wars, they said,

6:03Richard Greaser We're fighting for your freedom. We're fighting for your retirement, your ability to retire on Social Security and be able to gamble your checks away on slot machines, for having timeshares, for having

6:20Richard Greaser all of these things. And that that fantasy that these people are going out there and they're fighting your for your freedom is just being completely deleted. And these people are freaking out because they want that fantasy. They want that promise of safety that if they just sacrifice their children to Moloch, it's gonna be safe.

6:45Richard Greaser So these people are out there and they're upset and they're protesting in the streets. They want somebody in charge that screws them real hard but says it nicely and softly. They want the decorum of when they're getting fucked

7:02Richard Greaser by these guys, and that's not that's not what's happening right now. That's not what's happening right now. And not only that, it's the foreturning, and things are difficult economically. But life isn't fair, folks. And this is what these people need to come to the conclusion of and understanding is that life isn't fair. It's all a fucking scam,

7:24Richard Greaser and people are scamming you. And there's two ways to respond to that. There's probably more than two ways, but for the simplicity of this, I'm gonna give you two option. One is to go to the altar of Moloch and sacrifice your children, look the other way and pretend like nothing's happening, and just hope that they when they fuck you, they fuck you nicely, and that it's not too hard.

7:50Richard Greaser That's one option. Close your eyes. Pretend like nothing's going on. Pretend like it's not a big deal that the pedophiles are telling you where you can't smoke. And the other option, which in my opinion is the preferred option, is you don't play by their fucking stupid rules

8:10Richard Greaser of either having to be a sheep or a conker or a predator where you go and just subjugate people. You go and find your friends, people that have morals. You stand with them and you collaborate with them. You don't tolerate this this bullshit psychopathy. But but but to the people out there that are protesting right now as a result of consuming Plebslov,

8:35Richard Greaser that think they're they're educated, the the ones that are so fucking stupid that they'll sit and and listen to Bernie Sanders when he talks and think he's a serious person, they are not serious people. And spending time consumed by the K fab is not gonna be a good strategy. It's a waste of time. But folks, things

9:00Richard Greaser are getting crazy. Gold is ripping. Rod Palmer, how you doing today?

9:07Rod Palmer Well, I think you you were on a nice long monologue there, and you summed it up perfectly, which is you can't reason with plug slot. No matter how much you educate and explain in how much context you try to provide,

9:28Rod Palmer you just can't reason with plexlov that it's not because they're not trying to be reasonable. That's the that's the point. You can't reason with somebody who's not trying who's who's doing everything they can to avoid the to avoid being a reasonable person arguing in good faith.

9:48Richard Greaser Well, it's not even whether they're arguing in good faith or not. But if you're just regurgitating people that aren't arguing in good faith, you're essentially furthering a bad faith argument. These people the the plebs the the plebslop consumers are just amplifiers of the plebslop

10:07Rod Palmer dishers. Right. Right. Right. They it's like, it's like a signal boost. It's a they're relaying the slop. They say they say they don't wanna relay spam. They don't wanna relay non monitored, but they but they have no problem

10:23Richard Greaser relaying slot. It's pretty brutal. I mean, one one of the things that I was talking with you before this is, the lack of subversive music we we have right now.

10:32Rod Palmer Right. It's, what what what when when was the last time somebody made subversive music? Was it I mean, people talk about rage against the machine. They were subversive in the nineties, or they were

10:49Rod Palmer portrayed as such, but now they now now they're at, like, the the no kings protest. Right? Same guy. So it's it's it's part of the mainstream now. It's not subversive. But when was the last time can subversive music be a platinum a platinum album?

11:11Rod Palmer These are, I guess, I'm trying to frame the conversation a little bit about the suit, like, your what will you even mean right now? What that even means? What the definition of that word even is right now?

11:25Richard Greaser Well, I would argue, you know, when I think of subversive music, I think of, like, somebody like Bob Dylan. You know? In in in the the peak of subversive music in The United States, it's kind of been trending downwards. It didn't it didn't completely fall off, and it had resurgences through the years. Like, in in many ways, the rap was very subversive. Punk rock,

11:51Richard Greaser which followed the, you know, the sixties and seventies antiwar music boom. I guess Cardi B is a form of subversive music, if you think about it, but it might not be subversive in the way that you want it to be.

12:08Rod Palmer Cardi B is definitely subversive to Ben Shapiro. That is it's a vector. Right? I mean, think about music, which was it be very

12:22Rod Palmer much not subversive in its time, maybe even considered patriotic in its time, which would be but I mean, I can think of maybe one of the most subversive artists today who was not in his prime, Toby Keith. Could you name a more subversive artist right now than Toby Keith?

12:43Richard Greaser I would say the Dixie Chicks are more subversive.

12:47Rod Palmer They were in their time. Absolutely. And they got canceled for it. But now I think that they would be at the Grammys. I think they are still celebrated

12:60Richard Greaser in hindsight at the Grammys. Like, the the popular pep slop thing to to be upset about right now, there I mean, as far as war wise, it's Gaza. You know, whenever whenever Greta Thunberg is on the beat on something, you know, she she's the queen of pupslop. Like, she is definitely the Fiat queen of Plebslop.

13:24Rod Palmer Right. Like, that is she is a a great example of the dangers of, like, raising your kid on Plebslop. Like, if you raised your and your daughter on Plebslop that way, like, that's how that's what she turns out. Like, that's the outcome. That's the end product

13:44Rod Palmer of a life built on Plebslop.

13:49Richard Greaser I mean, I would argue that Toby Keith was Plebslop. He was dishing out Plebslop to get the American people to think that, the US government

13:58Rod Palmer should invade Iraq. It's just it's it's all about moderation. Right? Plebslop and moderation. It's like drinking alcohol. At the end of the day, ethanol is poison. It's bad for your body. Every time you drink it, your liver loses a few more cells. Your brain loses a few more cells. Your decisions become questionable. But

14:24Rod Palmer it can be enjoyed in moderation, and it does bring relief and and stress, and it does bring together people. I have, you know, good social times. There's a social lubricant. Plebslop can be a social lubricant. Absolutely. But it just should be enjoyed and moderated. You don't want to show up to the meetup with somebody who just absolutely main lines and just overdoes it with Plebslop. And it's just an absolute nightmare. By the end of the night, they're fighting with everybody because depending on which version and node they're running because they've just been they're just overdosed on Plebslot. And it just it ends up being a nightmare for everybody. That's You don't wanna let them go home by themselves. They might hurt themselves or somebody else.

15:06Rod Palmer It's let's just moderate it, folks.

15:11Richard Greaser Well, aged pepslop is a little bit different. So, like, you know, Toby Keith is definitely aged pepslop. And it's it's stood the test of time, and it's a little bit different. You know, it's it's it's different when you're consuming Plebslop

15:27Richard Greaser in the moment as it's breaking. It's trying to manufacture consent for a stupid war versus, you know, looking at it retrospectively because it becomes kind of an iconic part of

15:41Richard Greaser American history when you think of tote when you listen to Toby Keith today and, you listen to the song Red, White, and Blue, and you think of 09/11, you think about this defining like, the pepslop that defined that moment in American history. It's almost a a history lesson going back and,

16:02Richard Greaser consuming the old various forms of Plebslop that defined because that that's the reality is Plebslop does define different points in history, and we're gonna see it. Like, what we're watching in real time right now, folks,

16:18Richard Greaser is the competition between different plebsloppers to see who can create the defining plebslop for this moment in history. That's what these Bitcoin podcasters are competing for. They wanna have that Toby Keith

16:34Rod Palmer moment. Right. It's it's it's there's maybe there's some room for more than one. Like, there's, you know, thinking about Nickelback, Creed, Imagine Dragons, you know, Usher, Little

16:49Rod Palmer John. It's you you you know, you're getting older right when you when you listen to some of your favorite music, when you're in high school and you hear it on the classic hits radio station, proclaim Linkin Park on the classic hits radio station. Like, man, I feel old. But it's the same way with Plebslop. You know what I mean? It's like if there is classic Plebslop in culture, it's like the nostalgia for the nineties. Like, the word we're gonna have a nostalgic, you know, like, Surge

17:18Rod Palmer Surge is Plebslot, but it made it come back. It's awesome. Chumbawamba, I get knocked down, but I get up again. And I've read Barenaked Ladies, just classic hits. Plebslop.

17:33Richard Greaser So here's a question I have for you. This might be controversial. So in your in your opinion, was Eminem just someone that devolved into Plebslop or was he always Plebslop?

17:45Rod Palmer I think that's a that it's not just a you know, Eminem is a great example of this. I think Beatles is another good example of this, Nirvana, Oasis, you know, even to some extent at at this day and age, like Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin, they were absolutely

18:06Rod Palmer subversive. In hindsight, it seems like they probably challenged a lot of things. I don't know. It's it's so far away that it's hard to know the value of it at its time. But, like, over time, it became kind of, like, overdone. And it's it got commercialized by its fans and and people who came late to the parade,

18:29Rod Palmer and they turned it into pupslop or they used it to sell pupslop. You know what I mean? So Eminem didn't start that way. Yeah. But I then I think the p I think the, you know, the people who run the music industry definitely saw the potential to turn Eminem into Pub Slop when they signed him to the record deals.

18:52Richard Greaser Well, I think one of the challenges so you think he devolved into Plebslop initially, was it?

19:01Rod Palmer I think that he achieved well, you know, the music the record label's ultimate goal for him was to become Flub Slop. I think he had the potential and he reached it. I wouldn't I wouldn't make it negative. I would say that he reached his potential. He out he was a, outspoken success or, you know, something like that.

19:27Richard Greaser I think

19:29Rod Palmer Overachiever.

19:31Richard Greaser I think there's very few people. I I think what it is is a lot of these guys, they got one shot in life. You got your you're like just just like the Lose Yourself song by Eminem. You only got one shot. You better not miss the chance to pull or whatever it is. You gotta lose yourself in the plevs lop. Dude, lose yourself is the ultimate

19:55Richard Greaser plebslop anthem. Like, the plebsloppers, when they wake up in the morning, they're bouncing up and down their bathroom, blasting lose yourself, looking at themselves in the mirror. They put on their wife beater. They got their maniacs silver chain out. They're just jumping up and down, like, you know, spinning the bars of the album. This is what I I expect the optimist feels does in the morning before he gets ready to squeeze some slop on simply Bitcoin.

20:21Rod Palmer You know, Ruston does. You know, Ruston does.

20:24Richard Greaser Ruston does.

20:26Rod Palmer Absolutely. He does. He does like the, the the American Psycho. Like, at the beginning, he's like doing his push ups and sit ups. He's, like, doing his facial cream. He's, like, he's, like, putting on his, supreme his supreme hoodie, and he's, like, alright. Let's let's lose ourselves in the club slot. Yeah.

20:44Richard Greaser Nikko, BTC Sessions, they're trying to get they're trying to get Mike to do it at Simply Bitcoin. He's, like, on the edge.

20:53Rod Palmer It might be Mike. He's one of those guys who has tremendous potential to to to become PlupSlot. Yeah. To to make Club Slope.

21:04Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, I I think what when you define I think what we're trying to define by saying subversive music is that people come along and they shift that overtim window in a notable way. They have enough cultural cultural impact and relevancy that they are able to shift the window. And I think the the problem is of why so many of these people

21:31Richard Greaser devolve into pep slop is because if you make it and you shift the window, then what do you do? Because the window has shifted to you, and now you're not on the outside. Now you're not subversive. You're not edgy. You're not so so you devolve into pep slot. Now the only way to prevent that from happening is being so far out of the Overton window, in my opinion.

21:57Rod Palmer Staying on the frontier. Because The frontier the frontier keeps moving. If you, you know, if you stop and don't keep going with the frontier, something to pioneer, you it's unblocked down in the plug slot.

22:13Richard Greaser Yeah. But the the the problem is if if people are being genuine, if they're being genuine and they get the Overton window to shift to them, they're still themselves.

22:29Richard Greaser They're not they're very rarely do they, you know, change. Or if they change, then then people just don't like them anymore. You know what I mean? But I I feel like if you're if you're too far out of the Overton window and you you never convince everybody to shift over to you, you you still might have some success, but you're not gonna be platinum.

22:50Rod Palmer You know what I mean? Well, we're right now It's gotten to the point where all the, all the perspectives, all the stories, all the propaganda, all the,

23:04Rod Palmer all the spin we've heard it all at this point. And now, like, the only subversive thing now is telling the truth. It's the most And telling the Right. Right. Exactly.

23:16Richard Greaser I mean, but that that's that's always why subversive is subversive through history is telling the truth. It's not a new phenomenon. It's just it it feels like a new phenomenon because so few people are doing it right now. And that's why headlines are so important.

23:32Rod Palmer Announcements. So many people make announcements, but the only ones you have to be able to find which ones are telling the truth. Everybody's everybody's trying to tell everybody's claims they're telling the truth.

23:48Richard Greaser Do you have to find out which ones really are? Yeah. I mean, that that that's the thing, like, why people are so upset at Donald Trump right now is he's fucking telling the truth. He's, and he's just so blatant about it. You know? He's just like, oh, hey. I have a complete disdain for these people or, like, I'm a complete psychopath, and I enjoy celebrating, like, myself murdering people. Like, let's put out some, like, you know, really crazy footage.

24:16Richard Greaser And, just put some gnarly memes out. Like, he he's telling the truth. They all these other politicians felt the exact same way and did the exact same things. And it's it's so brilliant. The brilliant

24:36Richard Greaser you know, maybe maybe this is an example of blockchain fixing things. Right? The transparency of the corruption. Because all these politicians have been doing insider trading for a long time.

24:53Richard Greaser Trump's insider trading, his meme coin, Barron's insert insider trading, and it's all viewable on various blockchains.

25:03Rod Palmer It's the least it's the least it's the most disgusting that anybody's ever seen. But in reality, it's the least dishonest. It's like the least abhorrent. It's the most transparent. It's the most honest. Yeah. And that's what's it's it's a mirror too, B. Like, you talked about a mirror because think of like Tether. People were just for, you know, right or wrong reasons, They have a certain negative feeling about Tether, but it is like it's it's like a, like, a TDS tether derangement syndrome.

25:35Rod Palmer They just don't seem they don't have the same feeling about using a dollar cash to buy something at the store. But

25:47Rod Palmer all Tether is is a is a mirror of the the dollar system, the banking system. It just changes the logo and tricks people. It makes it makes that makes them think it's different. And some people are naively don't see the difference. And some people see too much of a difference, but it's it's just a different perspective on the truth.

26:09Richard Greaser Well, here here's the difference at the end of the day, which is really interesting. So, you know, like a lot of Bitcoin people we were talking about this on last week about people wasting all their time attacking the shit coins. The shit coins are the same exact thing as the entire fiat system, but without all of the legitimacy given to it by all the institutions being around it. It's as naked and and and blatantly

26:34Richard Greaser stupid and and as much of a scam as anything else. But JPMorgan and Schwab and, you know, all all the Citigroup, they're they're go they're probably going to at some point. They're gonna bring that legitimacy to it. But, you know,

26:53Richard Greaser Pelosi insider trading doing all the bullshit, and every other politician, you know, all the bullshit corruption with Biden and Burisma, you know, all that bullshit in Ukraine. It's the exact same thing as Trump doing it on a shitcoin, but where it's more blatant is, you know, Solana is just really dumb, and it doesn't have the legitimacy of the institutions around it. The the Epstein client list hasn't signed off on it yet. When you went to college and you got your degree, your professor wasn't telling you know, trying to manufacture this fantasy

27:28Richard Greaser of legitimacy that the system had.

27:31Rod Palmer Well, yeah. This is why this is but this is where it all comes due in the fourth turning. The fourth turning is about the institutions, the stories, the legitimacy,

27:43Rod Palmer the levers of legitimacy crumble and change. They change hands or they they they must they have to evolve to survive. And by bringing in the Dogecoin and and shitcoins

27:57Rod Palmer and trying to make them legitimate by what everything's happening, like, the the the president of The United States is shilling meme coins. It's putting them it's putting the legitimacy of the two institutions side by side, and it's making you realize the how like what you just said, the whole system is a scam. The very nature that they are trying to legitimize this and then wrap it in the compliant

28:22Rod Palmer regulated securitized model that, they are going to use to sell it to you so you so they can track your taxes. It's all it's all a big scam, and this is when these levers of legitimacy

28:38Rod Palmer will start to they lose the that's the legitimacy becomes lost.

28:43Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, imagine if Vitalik or, you know, whoever was running these chains. If they passed my my HODL tax,

28:57Richard Greaser proposal that I submitted for Bitcoin. If one of these guys that runs these chains or there was some sort of consensus model in Bitcoin where you were taxed, where just little bits of your holdings were taken from you, like, people would lose their minds. But they don't lose their minds when the Epstein client list does it via the IRS.

29:21Richard Greaser When when taxes are withheld on every w two paycheck that you earn, and you you go to the grocery store and you have to pay taxes, like peep for for cigarettes. People don't freak out about that. But what's what what is the difference between the two?

29:45Richard Greaser It's all the institutional legitimacy that's brought to it. This this collective, psychosis of of this behavior being appropriate. The detachment from a reality. I mean, what what do you expect from a society that doesn't smoke cigarettes

30:03Richard Greaser or listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast? They're they're out there in the streets. The no kings boomers are out there in the streets. And what are what are they yelling about? They're yelling about more shit getting taken from you. So they would be the ones right now you know, you think about the knots first core debate, like, twenty years from now, the types of things that people are gonna be arguing about.

30:27Richard Greaser I we well, the plums have turned Bitcoin into a proof of stake system, and would they be screaming in the streets that the HODL tax needs to be raised higher? Michael Sandler has too much Bitcoin. We need to hodl tax him. Bernie Sanders is up there screaming. There shouldn't be any Bitcoin millionaires.

30:55Rod Palmer Yeah. You should not be able to have a million Bitcoin even if you even if you're Michael Saylor, even if you discover digital energy, it's you kinda move into this crazy change that's happening. And, is plebs lock holding

31:17Rod Palmer Bitcoin down? Is that like gold is ripping? Is gold doesn't have any plebs lock attached to it?

31:23Richard Greaser Gold has a fuck ton of plebslop. Explain. Peter Schiff is oh, explain the the gold plebslop. You listen to any you listen to any AM radio station, and they're just doing throwing Boomerslop out, get trying to get you involved

31:42Richard Greaser to invest in gold, to invest in bullion, to invest in, paper bit or paper gold everywhere. You go on all these podcasts that aren't Bitcoin podcasts, and and there's, like, three things that they're trying to sell you right now. Some sort of supplement,

32:04Richard Greaser gold or actually four. I like tax relief, like, law firms that'll help help you fight against the IRS. The fourth one is our VPNs.

32:18Richard Greaser I forgot what what number I'm on, but it's gold. They're they're shelling gold on all these fiat podcasts right now. The slop is relentless.

32:29Rod Palmer Oh my gosh. So I think that's the problem. That is we we thought that all the boomers were buying the ETF. We thought the boomers

32:41Rod Palmer were buying paper Bitcoin, perhaps, you know, or, or we thought the boomers were, but were DCAing on River and Swan, like we told them to. And we assumed they were because they seemed kind of happy and they seemed like they were hopped up on BLEB slot. So how could they not? And they were listening to all the, all their podcasts, all the things they see on TV were about,

33:05Rod Palmer just pretty much the same thing of ordinary taxes, hating the IRS, and number go up technology, but they were consuming gold slot and we were consuming

33:17Rod Palmer Bitcoin flip slot. And now they're all they've been the members have been hyped up October. They're buying gold and they're not buying they're not buying the ETF like we thought. You're ready for my controversial take? Yeah.

33:32Richard Greaser I think the, gold pled sloppers and the Bitcoin pled sloppers are on the same team. They want similar goals.

33:42Rod Palmer They hate each other more than anybody.

33:45Richard Greaser Well, they they're competing with each other over whose bags get pumped the most. That's what it comes down to at the end of the day. Like, the the Bitcoin people don't necessarily want Bitcoin to be the primary thing because they think it's better than it like, sure. You've heard it on every podcast. People compare bit the the,

34:09Richard Greaser qualities of Bitcoin and gold. But at the end of the day, the most basic quality that is being used for, both of them right now, that's really important for people is a store value that isn't a corporate meme stock scam or or a Solana meme coin. That's the that's the primary value when everything's breaking down is a store of value to be able to walk away and get on the Titanic of sorts. So, you know, these people that are buying both of these assets

34:40Richard Greaser are trying to do the same thing, and they're having the same effect. Now, sure, the gold people are underperforming, but they're doing a lot better than their their peers, especially in the most recent weeks. But they're they're they're literally on the same team.

35:01Richard Greaser And it and I think there there's a question of what's the goal here? Is the goal is the goal to have people that can afford houses, afford to be productive members of society and work hard, be able to save, be able to raise their children and focus on that, to have some sort of financial stability? Or is the goal to have everybody saying there's no second best?

35:28Rod Palmer So you're you're, like, you're essentially echoing Lawrence Lepard's message. I don't know if you noticed, but Lawrence Leppard was actually, like, in the x, trending in, like, the we could where they had a story and, like, a curated set of tweets about it. But it was just a list of Lawrence Leppard telling all the gold bugs, all the gold tub slot farmers to fuck off and to stop the little ink Bitcoiners and plebs, and that we're all in this fight together. And that he was he he thought both sides needed to see the value in in in the situation.

36:02Rod Palmer So your team look hard.

36:05Richard Greaser Well, he he's he's the I'm just analyzing what these guys are doing. Lapard Lapard is trying to unite the Plov Sloppers because he he is a Plov Slopper. He loves

36:19Unknown that he, he, he, he's he's been

36:25Rod Palmer before there was pleb slop before there was a term for it anyway, you know, which it was, it was doomer slop and doomerslop goes back to, I mean, the 80s, the 70s. It's like the the death the death of the dollar system. It's not it's not backed by gold anymore. Like, they they those guys have been dealing in doomerslop

36:48Rod Palmer for decades. And who knows it better? Who could tell you the two sides you're on the same team with a better perspective and a better but lower time preference horizon

37:01Richard Greaser than an old than old gold bug like Larry. Yeah. The it it it's pretty wild when you go back and listen to old conspiracy theory stuff that people are into. You remember Pico oil?

37:12Rod Palmer Pico I do remember Pico oil. Yeah. We're running out.

37:17Richard Greaser Climate change, that was that was a form of doomer slop, for sure.

37:22Rod Palmer The hole in the ozone layer back in the late eighties, early nineties. We're burning all in the ozone layer.

37:29Richard Greaser I think the world should have ended, like, three decades ago when they first started predicting the end of the world was coming at the end of the decade because of some sort of climate change.

37:40Rod Palmer The Mayan calendar. The Mayan calendar. Even Khan accounts.

37:45Richard Greaser The cold war and people were, yeah, the Mayan calendar, 2012. The cold Doomsday clock.

37:52Rod Palmer Yeah. The cool the cold war doomsday clock. Yeah. Y t k. I remember Y t k. We were out. Well, I'm I'm out with my family watching the fireworks tour and wondering if the if all the power was going to go out, if the world was going to end.

38:07Richard Greaser Could you imagine if Bitcoin was launched in 1998?

38:12Rod Palmer They would add a hard fork. They could talk of it. The Y2K fork.

38:17Richard Greaser Well, how many Twitter spaces would there be discussing the potential for Bitcoin to be shut down

38:25Rod Palmer because of Y two ks? There would have been a lot of game theory discussed in those spaces. Though they're gonna have their own Y two k moment in, like, a hundred years or something like that because the do you mix time, like, rolls over to the nineteen seventies? So you gotta fork to a new time stamping, They go wherever. I I don't know the specifics. I think they I think the answer is

38:50Richard Greaser they already had the answer to it. They just have to do it. Yeah. I mean, the day the danger of Pub Slop at the end of the day, ultimately, is it has gravity behind it, and it'll suck you in. And if you immerse yourself, it's just all if that's if literally the only thing you consume, even even if you're, like, a a pretty rational person, it's just like the inputs will affect the outputs at the end of the day. What you consume, you consume It's like seed oils. It's like seed oils.

39:21Richard Greaser It's why it's why I hang out in the the intellectual Silk Road. So I don't wanna be consumed by the Podkoff Plebslop. It'll get you. It doesn't matter how how strong you are. You will succumb to the gravity of Plebslop eventually.

39:38Rod Palmer And you won't even, you won't even notice it. It won't, it won't be like you wake up one day and you're just sitting in blood slop. It's a slow slippery slope and it just, it's like your, your pancreas. You put too much sugar and junk food in your body, you get insulin resistance

39:55Richard Greaser and you get plug slop resistance. I think the person that resists that ultimately at the end of the day, they just don't feel good. They don't feel good with the trade offs of creating the pep slop. Like, they they'd rather face the hard path before because it's just so debilitating

40:20Richard Greaser to them.

40:21Rod Palmer And they're not even bullish. It doesn't even make them bullish. It just makes them grumpy.

40:26Richard Greaser Yeah. It just makes them feel sick. You know? Those people won't last very long. I I think you see this happen over and over again every cycle is you you see somebody go on the pod comp circuit, and then they just fall off. Like, they're they're the hottest thing on the block.

40:45Richard Greaser They go on everybody's podcast within a three month period. You remember that, what was that guy's name? Laser Hoddle or something like that?

40:57Rod Palmer He's on these. He is a super hella active on Noster now. But, yeah, he'd burn out. That was him and, Jay Weatherman. Do Jay Weatherman's had yeah. Jay Weatherman's

41:14Rod Palmer had spy out and had to restart a few times, but he used to do that. There's no keeping that guy away, but him and laser novel used to be on, like, the the fire is rampage, on Bitcoin Twitter. That's, like, $21.22. Texas Slim. Yeah.

41:33Richard Greaser American Hoddle kinda had this moment. He he's done a little bit of resurgence, but I think he got pretty tired of it. Stetsky. I don't know if Stetsky got tired of it or people got tired of him. Breedlove's

41:45Rod Palmer he's he's weathered a lot of, controversy.

41:53Richard Greaser Well, breed breed love is the example of somebody who sticks with it. You know what I mean? They're they're willing they're willing to dish the plant slop no matter what the cost is.

42:04Rod Palmer I mean, Breedlove started in in 2021 on Clubhouse with Elon Musk and Eric Weinstein in a debate

42:16Rod Palmer about Bitcoin. Now now Breedlove is interviewing Justin Beshler with his cohost, Eric V stacks. Like, his his career trajectory

42:31Rod Palmer is, it's in his his it is it's just all up Straight up.

42:37Richard Greaser Straight to higher signal. So I think the boomers are gonna get rugged. This is part one of the reasons why you want cold to pump is because you want the base boomers to be able to retire

42:48Rod Palmer and not The boomers, the boomers, gale stay up late at night. They are ready when Asia decides not to send it anymore. And Asia starts to send it down, send the crash when the when the Japanese are like, alright, We'll do yield curve control even harder. And they send and they send the gold price plunging. The boomers won't even find out. Boomers will be asleep when Asian when the Asian markets open.

43:16Richard Greaser Yeah. You so the people that were banking on the entitlements, let's be honest here, they weren't paying attention. They weren't contributing a whole lot.

43:30Richard Greaser The people that banked on that as being their retirement, these people that worked for the government their whole lives and expected a government pension, the people that, like, had social security as, like, their retirement plan. But the you you don't want the base boomers getting fucked in this scenario when the when the social security rug pull comes. You want the base in the Medicare too.

43:56Richard Greaser You want the guys that have, like, 50 guns, the ones that have been huddling fully automatics machine guns

44:06Richard Greaser since before this assault ban, the guys that have, like, a 100,000 bullets of every caliber, the people that are stacking bars of gold, the people that were listening to Bill Cooper back in the day,

44:24Richard Greaser we want those guys doing well in retirement because that's that's the modern day forty hour per week Bitcoin podcast listener. The the they're the old school version of that.

44:38Rod Palmer Yeah. You wanna you wanna be in a cabin with a guy who has buck antlers all over the walls. Carhartt.

44:50Richard Greaser Yeah. The old school pioneer. Some of these guys might have been in, militia groups back in the day before, the FBI completely tore

45:02Rod Palmer You don't you don't wanna be siding with the boomers who are who are riding their bicycles naked down the street. You wanna be with the boomers with the, with the extra pool, with the timeshare on the mound side.

45:19Richard Greaser This is the exciting thing that Bitcoin saves us from is having to join a right wing militia herb. We don't have to do that anymore because we have Bitcoin.

45:30Rod Palmer Right. We don't have to go to Idaho in in up into the mountains where even the the the Starlink Internet is kinda spotty. Like, we wanna be, and we can still stay where we can draw on spaces and warning and listen to Darkseid

45:48Rod Palmer and Joe Carlasar go at it about the macro outlook.

45:54Richard Greaser Yeah. Bitcoin Bitcoin's like the digital kill dozer in a lot of ways. It's like a kill dozer on the financial system. So instead of having to go spend six months renovating an old tractor just to be able

46:11Richard Greaser to spend a couple hour rampage knocking over government buildings,

46:16Rod Palmer you can start using Bitcoin. I know. And old people just don't have that. Old people just don't have that escape valve, that digital read that that digital sovereignty. They gotta carry their big, little heavy bags up to the mountains in Idaho in the middle of winter

46:36Richard Greaser surrounded by Feds. They they could though. That's the that's the thing, but they they won't. And and this is how you do it as a gold bug boomer is you got your gold, and you think of gold as, like, on chain Bitcoin. You got your bullion sitting somewhere in your house. Right? Most of the plums aren't smart enough to secure their Bitcoin anyways. If somebody, you know, comes and attacks them, they'll get their seed phrase taken. It's probably best in a lot of circumstances

47:08Richard Greaser because it's probably less dangerous, but, like the feds get you. They want to add to the strategic reserve, you know, whatever the scenario is. So I don't want to hear any arguments about the security. So the the gold bugs, they got their gold sitting in their vault or, you know, buried in the backyard. However, these boomers store their gold.

47:28Richard Greaser And then they've got their bullets and the bullets act as like the lightning network, where it's actually the transaction layer that people are doing small commerce in. And, so, you know, Pablo Escobar had the had the phrase like, you know, letter silver.

47:48Richard Greaser In this case, it's kind of the same idea except the bullet doesn't signify violence. It just signifies micro transactions. But it's kind of impractical to do this in a lot of ways, even though it makes a lot of sense. Like, you just price things at bullets as a way better measurement than a value than the dollar.

48:11Rod Palmer What advice do you have to people who are sitting on some pretty heavy silver bags or paper silver bags right now? Do you think they should hold on to that? Or do you think that they should pivot into gold or Bitcoin or or or tethered gold? I think,

48:28Richard Greaser owning silver right now is kind of like owning Ethereum. Like, sure, it'll pump, but it won't pump as much. This has been the case over and over again. I think, you know, it'd be or it's like holding you know, how how well did the Litecoin narrative of Litecoin being silver to Bitcoin's gold? Like, how long did that last? Like, that's the same exact thing as silver. It it this has been the case, you know, if you read

48:53Richard Greaser any of these Bitcoin books, they'll talk about the gold standard versus the silver standard and how all the silver standard countries got fucked and eaten alive by the gold standard countries. Like, it it's just this has been a a bad trade for a long time. So it's kinda retarded. So silver, my my so the gold bugs should be shitting on the silver bugs and calling them shitcoiners. That's what should happen. They should be upset at the silver people for sucking liquidity.

49:26Richard Greaser The people that are promoting silver, they're promoting scams. The paper silver people. They need to be attacking the paper silver people. Ghost of Dick Whitman. Who who's the gold version of Ghost of Dick Whitman? He better be shitting on

49:43Rod Palmer silver every day. A game. They're they're a lot they're very tall or into over there. They've been very tall or the others precious metals, the other, industrial metals. It's kinda like a big commodity community. But, I don't know. There might be a few gold maxes.

50:02Richard Greaser There needs to be a clear gold maximalist community.

50:05Rod Palmer They like a core eclipse then to war of gold to warn everybody to call out to the silver mining scams and all those things. Definitely important.

50:17Richard Greaser Yeah. We need we need gold maximalist conferences and podcasts and merchandise.

50:25Rod Palmer They have a lot of work to do if they wanna catch up. That's what we're saying.

50:29Richard Greaser Is Peter Schiff he's not he's not hardly as wealthy as Michael Sailor, but would he be considered, like, gold's version of Michael Sailor these days, you think? Is Is he the biggest Gold influencer?

50:41Rod Palmer He could be, but he seems to be just rather go on Bitcoin podcast instead of Gold podcast. And I kinda look at him more like gold's defense attorney. Like, right now, gold is on trial.

50:57Rod Palmer Boomers are looking at it. They're like, oh, if Bitcoin seems to over outperform here, the younger generations are looking at it. The media institutions are looking at it. The media institutions are looking at gold, and they're like, is this really is or is it is it Bitcoin? And so gold is on trial. Peter Schiff is the you know, he's like Johnny Cochran. He is never ever ever going to admit that,

51:20Rod Palmer if there's anything wrong and that that day point is better, Nicole is inferior. He's gonna basically do a sea lion. He's just gonna constantly, just defend his client in the court of public opinion. Yeah.

51:38Richard Greaser Would you say that using bullets is like a payment mechanism. Like, you go to your rancher, you buy a half cow from them in bullets instead of gold. Is that kind of more like using Monero? Or would you say that's like the lightning number? Or is it like using USDT

51:58Richard Greaser on liquid?

52:01Rod Palmer It's a little bit of this, a little bit of I think it's, you it's really important to balance the channels if you're gonna use bullets and ammo as and as as to, like, as, like, a bar tap to keep tap. Because if one side gets too many, you know, the the balance the liquidity becomes imbalanced, one side, has all the bullets, well, then

52:27Rod Palmer you're kinda at their mercy.

52:30Richard Greaser Well, it's the same thing as as Bitcoin, you know, because when you're going around and you're paying people Bitcoin, you don't wanna pay retarded communist Bitcoin, you know, because you don't want them to have more Bitcoin than your guys. So when you're going and you're spending your Bitcoin, you're spending it with people that you wanna have Bitcoin. And it's the same thing with the bullets. You know, when you're spending bullets, you're you're wanting to spend with people that you wanna have bullet at the end of the day. And you don't this is one of the crazy things about the the change of incentive structure when you're dealing with a scarce item

53:04Rod Palmer and spending a scarce item that increases in value. You wanna you know, it's like it's like leaving your equipment in Afghanistan. If you're living at United States, when you pull out, you're leaving your sats with the party that you,

53:22Rod Palmer who will be the best steward of it and use it to control the situation in the community.

53:31Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, the CIA has been trying to do this for a very long time. They just wanna make sure the resources are properly allocated. Do we, do we shout out Kim Jong Un last week?

53:43Rod Palmer No. We should do it every week, though.

53:46Richard Greaser Yeah. I just wanna give a shout out to my boy, Kim Jong Un. He's the OG Bitcoin president. He was the first, visionary leader. And this is kind of one of the powers that the the Juche ideology, that the great leader proclaims

54:05Richard Greaser is. It is about self sovereignty. So when he saw Bitcoin, it clicked. He he gets it. He's North Korea living on a Bitcoin standard. Shout out to the to the fearless leader. Shout out to North Korea. Congratulations

54:24Richard Greaser on expanding your Bitcoin stack. Really bullish. I hope that David Bailey will invite you to a conference to speak someday.

54:33Rod Palmer And we should be on social media under you could be you could use the handle chooch huddle. That's a great idea.

54:41Richard Greaser We yeah. We need we need the North Korean plaubs on the Oster. But I think, like, the part of the base nature of Kim Jong Un is he realizes how retarded the plaubs are, and he's not gonna let his North Koreans, which he has turned into pioneers through

54:57Rod Palmer some pretty pretty brutal methods, I would say. He's kind of he's kind of a trial by fire guy, you know, for his people. Kim's to help lower people's time preference. We'll see if that is the right way to go about it. I don't know. Did you, did you watch any of the livestream of the Canadian Club Slop conference?

55:18Richard Greaser I did. The one talk that I I watched a little bit of, Niko and Tomer. And, those guys hurt me a little bit when I listened to them. So I felt a little bit of pain, and then I listened to I made sure to tune in when fundamentals was on with,

55:34Rod Palmer Larry Leppard. What was, what was that discussion all about? How would you describe did fundamentals did did did fundamentals give it to Larry?

55:48Richard Greaser No. What was interesting is fundamentals actually read his book. And I think this is very the very unusual behavior for a panel moderator to have any familiar familiarity with,

56:03Richard Greaser the people that they're interviewing or talking with. Generally, what happens or I guess you would consider this a fireside chat. That's what the PodConference calls these. But, generally, what happens is that they'll, like, listen to, like, one podcast and, like, have a conversation with them before. But, you know, most of these people that are interviewing people on stage for these events, they're too busy listening to themselves talk to spend the time. And, you know, that's what that's what they wanna be on there for is to hear

56:34Richard Greaser them moderating the panel is not their opportunity to ask really interesting questions that they're informed on. It's their opportunity to hear themselves talk and sound smart as they ask questions. And so fundamentals was kind of unusual in his interview where he actually understood the subject matter that they were discussing. So he asked

56:57Richard Greaser Larry some questions that I think were a bit more informed.

57:02Rod Palmer So I would I would suggest or that's that's what I saw from it. Now now Tomer would say that would they would say that was more worthy of listening, checking out that clip than watching Tomer?

57:14Richard Greaser Yeah. I know. Be with with Tomer and, Nikko, I think they were just recycling Plebslot, which is okay. We we we like recycling.

57:27Rod Palmer Recycling. Yeah. I mean, Tomer I think Tomer is my favorite Plebslot poet. Thomas, plump slot poetry is, yeah, I think everybody should check it out. I think, I've got his book in my house. Oh, I always let, I always let people read it who are interested. I think they'd enjoy it. I enjoy it. I mean, everybody has their different flavor that they prefer. Right? Do they prefer,

57:53Richard Greaser like, the alpha plump slop from Breedlove? Do they prefer like, he he's kind of, like, the Bitcoin version of Andrew Tate in some ways. Him and Svetsky. They're they're trying to be the Bitcoin versions of Andrew Tate. Tomer Tomer is kinda like the, the Rogan esque, likes to talk about psychedelics or show off that he's into psychedelics. He's not he's definitely not

58:23Richard Greaser but Rogan's definitely Plebslop, but he he's kinda, like, elegant. He he's Plebslop for, like, the average laid back person,

58:31Rod Palmer I would say. Yeah. Tub slot for like, Rogan's like tub slot for Gen X. I guess Tomer is kind of easy. Easy. He's good club slot for Gen X. Like, if you like yeah. If you like Rogan, who's the and he's Rogan adjacent to, like, the guy that does the DMT guy. He passed away.

58:57Rod Palmer Terrence McKenna? Yeah. Yeah. Like, he Tomer's kinda like, he plots lock Terrence McKenna in a way mixed with Rogue and with nuts I mean, Tomer doesn't really have the MMA black belt, credentials. So it's I would

59:15Rod Palmer Rogen doesn't quite capture it for me. Yeah. There I was just

59:19Richard Greaser Rogen was the first, like, mainstream, Fiat pod comp podcaster that listened to, like, the psychedelics. That was the

59:30Rod Palmer the the Program. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

59:33Richard Greaser Is it super over simple? If Tomer's listening to this, he's probably so proud of himself.

59:38Rod Palmer Wow. I was compared to plexlop, Rogan. Plexlop, Rogan is I mean, that it is a pretty pretty big title. I mean, that's impressive. It's it's maybe sounds pejorative, but it'd be a very successful career trajectory.

59:59Richard Greaser Yeah. But I don't care. Like, the the thing is if you're if you're mediocre and you're uninteresting, even if the whole world is watching you, you're still mediocre and uninteresting.

1:00:12Rod Palmer It doesn't change that that fact. But if you're mediocre and uninteresting, you can still have a really successful career. You don't have to you don't have to be ashamed of being mediocre and interesting. They'll have to be ashamed of it.

1:00:29Richard Greaser Well, you just think of you think of, like, the the the two largest grossing movies in recent history that I can think of that were, like, all time records. It was the the Avengers movie, and then it was Avatar, the original Avatar by James Cameron with the blue people. Remember how everybody freaked out about that?

1:00:53Rod Palmer Yeah. Absolutely.

1:00:55Richard Greaser That that's not an intergenerational movie. That's not like the Titanic. Like, the Titanic was the ultimate plop slop that, like, broke the world. It was, like, the biggest thing in the world. Everybody was singing My Heart Will Go On by Celine Dion.

1:01:09Rod Palmer Well, this is this is where I think I'm fracturing from your perspective and a lot of our listeners.

1:01:20Rod Palmer I'm fully aware of what Club Slop is, and I'm saying it's okay to enjoy a little Club Slop. Not everything has to be a masterpiece. You can have some good old fashioned blockbuster Club Slop, and you can listen to your favorite club slot podcaster and, like, still, like, learn. You know, you can still learn to make your bed. You can still learn to have a little discipline in your life and to work hard and to work out.

1:01:48Rod Palmer It's, it's not everything. It's not it should not be illegal to be club slop. It should not be looked down upon necessarily.

1:01:58Richard Greaser I'm not saying that. Be beautiful club slop. I'm not saying that at all. What I'm saying is that there are masterpieces of Plebslop. There there there's Plebslop that people get can look at Top Gun. How many times have you watched Top Gun in your life? I've seen cheese Toby Keith.

1:02:18Rod Palmer Point. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key. That would be key.

1:02:33Richard Greaser No. You you can do mediocre really well. And Hell, yeah. Top Gun, the Titanic

1:02:41Rod Palmer Friends. These movies?

1:02:43Richard Greaser Friends. Yeah. There there's these movies that that have defined, you know, the these eras. It's either years or multiple years, but, Kenny Loggins. Kenny Loggins as far as music goes. He's he's he's like Toby Keith. He's he's Plebslot. Rocky, the Rocky movies, total plug slop.

1:03:05Rod Palmer We already mentioned Creed. The Beatles.

1:03:11Richard Greaser The this is plug slop done well. Motley Crue. You can you can you can do something sloppy and mediocre, but do it super well and make it interesting. What I what I'm saying is is Tomer is not that. He might he might have a lot of eyes on him, but he is not the Titanic. He's more like Avatar. Big in the moment,

1:03:35Richard Greaser not relevant historically. Now the Sailor series, that was like the Titanic moment. People will people will go back and they'll they'll they'll go gobble up that slop historically. That's relevant plops pleb slop. Now now Tomer is just recycling

1:03:54Richard Greaser ideas that were set.

1:03:57Rod Palmer There could be Plub Slop, Master P, like Sublime, and then, like, Batomer would be more, like, but who's, like, the reggae, rapper, group?

1:04:16Richard Greaser Paul Marley.

1:04:18Rod Palmer No. Hold on. Let me look him up real quick. Slightly stupid. So it's like you're either sublime masterpiece pub slop or your your town room is, like, slightly stupid. You know what I mean? It's like, if you were in Boulder, Colorado in 2004 and you had dreadlocks

1:04:39Rod Palmer and, you're smoking some wiggle weeb, boy, you know, in the park in Boulder. And, like, Tomer was, like, was was reading his poetry to you on a blanket. Like, it would it was just hit so hard. But now I think it's, it hasn't aged well for somebody playing Oasis on their acoustic guitar at a party in 2025, unironically.

1:04:60Richard Greaser Yeah. I think I think probably what makes good plebslop good plebslop is, like, a deep understanding of it underneath it. But a a huge part of it too is just timing and presentation.

1:05:16Rod Palmer Knowing a lot about and sharing a lot about.

1:05:19Richard Greaser The plug's love culture is not the best way to contribute to it. Okay. So so here's here's kind of my final question, you know, I wanna discuss before we get into the fountain base. Is there a first advantage first mover advantage to dish in Plebslop, Or is there a second mover when you when you steal somebody else? You're just a curator of all the good ideas.

1:05:45Rod Palmer Where where do you I think it's I think it's good. I think it's, probably best to be, like, a really attuned in momentum trader. You can trade the, the flow of clutch lop as it's going in and out at a macro level, and you follow those flows. You can trade the momentum.

1:06:05Richard Greaser Like,

1:06:08Rod Palmer is that what, it's like AI. Yeah. Yeah. But it's like AI. Like, there's everybody's got a new model coming out, but yours just needs to be, you know, the first mover doesn't matter as much. I think maybe it's the one that gets gets the most

1:06:26Rod Palmer engagement. You can get used you can use to get the most engagement.

1:06:32Richard Greaser So Dan Held is a winner in all of those. The the yeah, exactly. Pete Rizzo, for sure. It's it's where I wanna give Nico props is Nico has mastered that.

1:06:46Rod Palmer Yeah. I think he was like the Paul Tudor Jones, the pupslop.

1:06:51Richard Greaser He taught he taught Swan how to pupslop. That's that's one of his roles in history. That that was an impressive,

1:06:60Rod Palmer thinking. And who has more copycats? Who has more people? Who are their club slop is influenced by simply Bitcoin. It's like the whole club slop industry. It it is he influences all of it.

1:07:16Richard Greaser Yeah. There's there's some power brokers in the industry. There's, Key Rizzo. There's Nico. There's, that Luke Midshift guy.

1:07:25Rod Palmer It's like the the the plug slot barons. Like, Nico is like the John Rockefeller of plug slot.

1:07:31Richard Greaser I I feel like the the blonde streak in your hair is kinda like having a Rolex watch in the Plebslop world.

1:07:42Richard Greaser I think that's what they're doing. They're just signaling it for everybody. Like, Yeah, we're fucking power brokers. We own this shit. You see you see that trend? You see that trend? I was the one who made that happen. That's I'm the reason why Marty Bent's doing open mouth thumbnails right now. Mark of a pioneer

1:08:01Rod Palmer on the frontier of Budslaw.

1:08:03Richard Greaser Yeah. It's like it's like having the really nice Jordans in the hood, you know? It's like, oh, you you wanna know where your mom's buying crack rocks from? This guy, bitch. Alrighty. Onto the fountain piece. Enoch six one six ten thousand sat says, this episode made me question my existence. Was that your intention, Rod?

1:08:29Rod Palmer I it depends. You know, it's if you're a new listener on the journey, some of these individual episodes are going to make you question. Your existence are gonna make you question reality. But I think if you listen to forty hours per week and you stick with it, we're actually helping you put the pieces back together

1:08:48Richard Greaser to make sense of reality. Yeah. I I kinda have this thing that happens frequently where I get shocked where somebody says they don't understand what we're talking about. Because I feel like most of the things we talk about are pretty self evident if you're paying attention. The truth can sound weird, but it's just because

1:09:04Rod Palmer you might not have been paying very close attention. You might not have noticed as many things as we have along the way because there's a lot of things that we notice that we take from the end of, I think. You know what I mean?

1:09:14Richard Greaser Well, this is why journalists lead the charges because their job is to notice literally. It's a profession. They're professional noticers at the end of the day. That's what a journalist is.

1:09:26Rod Palmer That's right.

1:09:29Richard Greaser I don't know if it's, like, a good or positive thing, questioning your existence after listening to Bitcoin podcast. I mean, I think it's probably a healthy process. You know? It's a it it it can lead or or generally is a sign of self awareness, if you're even willing or able to do that. If you're willing to critically think about your mental models. If you're willing to admit that stock to flow is not an accurate model or Bitcoin power law.

1:10:00Rod Palmer Or Yeah. All your models are broken. When all your models are broken, you have to question your existence, and it's Terry time to listen to podcasts. Thank you, Enoch. Next is a 6,006 sats from a late stage HODL. Missed a boost last week and apparently the week before. And I was traveling to my sister's wedding and definitely missed my 40 per week last week. I saw the real person wearing

1:10:26Rod Palmer a Zeus wallet t shirt, stopped and pointed and said, hey, Zeus or Hey, Zeus, and he just ignored me. My vibes were pretty low after being ignored in real life. I just put my head down, put my headphones back on, and caught up with eighty hours per week this week. We'll try to have you back late stage. I'm about to have to talk with, Evan about people wearing his t shirts being a poor representative

1:10:53Rod Palmer of, of Bitcoin in public.

1:10:58Richard Greaser That's an interesting experience. I wonder why. I feel like most people that wear Bitcoin stuff, all they want to do is talk to people about Bitcoin.

1:11:11Rod Palmer Zeus wallet pool.

1:11:14Richard Greaser Maybe, maybe they're kind of elitist. Yeah. If you say a guy wearing a wall of Satoshi shirt, you know, that they would want to just write slobber all over you. That's like wearing a superhero t shirt and thought, look, that's a middle aged man. So, yeah. I mean, okay. You you wear a Zeus shirt. You wear like a samurai wallet shirt. Is that another one where you don't like to talk to people in public? If that's why, yeah.

1:11:37Rod Palmer If you're wearing a if you're wearing a a a a a non custodial lightning wallet t shirt, you're letting people know that you're a little probably a little bit grumpy because your easier experience is so hard to get to work. But Zizewall has such great graphics. You think they'd just be in a better mood. Yeah. It's all really interesting.

1:11:57Richard Greaser Well, if I were to see you in public, I'm wearing a z shirt, I'll make sure to say hi to you late stage huddle. Really appreciate you. Bobo, 5,000 sats. Why the fuck does anyone care what piece of fuck shitcoin someone else buys? I love shitcoins. They are the market. Right? Without them,

1:12:19Richard Greaser Bitcoin would mean wouldn't mean as much or look as good. Shop at Walmart, Amazon, Kroger, Public, or Piggly Wiggly. Why do I care? And if you do care slap your pee pee, None of it matters.

1:12:37Richard Greaser Jesus, when you get older, you will realize you wasted so much of your fucking time. You'll realize you do not matter to anybody or anyone. Get a life while you can. Stop being a gay fuck. By the way, Gloria is hotter than olive oil. Goddamn. I just can't understand the world,

1:12:57Richard Greaser and I ain't gonna try. What what is the girl named

1:13:02Rod Palmer the the TV show Popeye named Olive Oil? Is that what he's talking about? I think I think I think Bob was saying Gloria is hotter than Olive Oil, but curious that he did not say that she was hotter than Betty Boop because people Bubba's age guys, he rode motorcycles, truckers. They all, they all love Benny boop and they love Benny boop posters and Benny boop tattoos. I'm curious if he thinks that she's hotter than Betty Boop. You know why there's so many furries

1:13:32Richard Greaser in the younger generation?

1:13:35Rod Palmer Because they didn't have a Betty Boop?

1:13:37Richard Greaser They they grew up on Hello Kitty instead of Betty Boop. Like, the the Hello Kitty filled the whole the void for them. We need we need a modern day pinup girl.

1:13:49Rod Palmer We need a oracle Betty Boop.

1:13:52Richard Greaser Wait. Would you would you or this might piss off Bubba. But would you say that Taylor Swift is the closest equivalent to Betty Boop that we have today?

1:14:05Rod Palmer Who is to? Who could be this generation's Betty Boop, I guess, is the question. If not Taylor.

1:14:13Richard Greaser Ariana Grande tried. Lady Gaga tried. I ain't Taylor's the queen. She she's the Betty Boop. For,

1:14:22Rod Palmer who's the American Eagle?

1:14:25Richard Greaser Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Nazi tits. Sydney Sydney Sweeney.

1:14:32Rod Palmer She could be Betty Boop. I don't think your bible would be mad about that.

1:14:37Richard Greaser The problem is the damage with Hello Kitty has been done. The the the furries are gonna be like this for the rest of their lives. They're they're just miscalibrated at this point. I don't really know. They you know, the these weird Christian people, they've been trying to, like, change people's sexuality or sexual preferences using all the, like, the gay conversion therapy. It doesn't seem to be very effective. Like, I I think the only thing you can do is that you just you have to accept, like, sometimes there's casualties of this war. And these people, instead of growing up on on Taylor Swift or Sydney Sweeney or,

1:15:12Richard Greaser Betty Boop, they grew up on Hello Kitty, and they're just gonna be fucked for the rest of their life. What can you do? Damage has been done. You gotta focus on the younger kids. You gotta save the Zoomers. You gotta you gotta parade those Nazi tits around the Zoomers and and make sure they don't turn into furries.

1:15:31Rod Palmer It's major to watch The Incredibles and see that mom with the big badonk a donk. Something, you know, the mom from Incredibles, she could be the new Betty Boop, honestly.

1:15:44Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, this is like why, you know, to some degree, you sexualize these different characters and stuff like that. Is is I think the problem is sexualizing children. But yeah. I mean, you you want these horny kids

1:16:03Richard Greaser to be thinking that The Incredibles mom's ass is nice instead of thinking about Hello Kitty. Harm reduction, really. Yeah. Yeah. I think we talked about the rest of that stuff that that Bob talked about earlier in this episode of last, but Yeah. Thanks, Bob.

1:16:20Rod Palmer The next one's Jim Satoshi, 2,521 stats. Thank you for your time. One of my top two podcasts, listening to forty hours a week for a decade. You are outstanding. What is, what is the other one of your top two podcasts? That's what I wanna know. Bet you some governable misfits.

1:16:43Richard Greaser That's my guess. Be good company. They might be my number two. I try to listen to every episode that John's on. Next boost, o d 40 h p w 2,100 says, this is the news. Yeah. You betcha.

1:16:58Rod Palmer Telling the truth.

1:16:60Richard Greaser O d is subversive. You know? Next one. O d O d, find me find me O d and send me your music. I wanna hear your music.

1:17:10Rod Palmer Oh, yeah. Says musician

1:17:12Richard Greaser in your, bio. I want you.

1:17:15Rod Palmer Next is orange Julius. Yeah. Me too. Viking stuff. Orange Julius 1,337 sets. Healing words once again. Oh, yeah. I I I hope, you if you EQ or somebody you know suffering from plebslop psychosis

1:17:36Rod Palmer that, you can use use this episode as a as a starting point to, to heal.

1:17:45Richard Greaser The truth will set you free. I mean, where else do you hear people telling you to smoke cigarettes? It's like it's the fourth turning. Everything's all fucked up right now. All these people are gonna get sick and die, like, get cancers from the vaccines or whatever. Are they gonna die of cardiac arrest because of Trump Derangement Syndrome? And people are telling you not to smoke cigarettes. That's healing in itself. Who one of those,

1:18:13Richard Greaser colleges came out with a study that showed that smoking one to two cigarettes a day was as therapeutic as going to therapy. Thanks, George Julius. Baba 1,000 says, fucking Rod, jinxing my hips, fuck the hip replacement, I'll have the wife push me around in a wheelchair, plus I'll have a great

1:18:33Richard Greaser excuse to sit on my ass all day. Bubba, have you seen the movie Wally?

1:18:39Rod Palmer I hope your hips stay fine, Bubba. Did not mean to jinx you. The next one, eight hundred and eighty eight sets from Pelican at six. Club slob anthem is hilarious. Thanks for that. I'm tired of these podcasters having a hard stop, quote unquote, at the end. I mean, what do you really have anything that is more important to do than this? I hear you, Pelican. I hear you. The reality is I had another podcast.

1:19:06Rod Palmer So some time but, honestly, that's probably the only thing that,

1:19:11Richard Greaser is an excuse in this situation. I think that's a pretty good excuse. Next boost, Rev Hoddle. 07/21 says, a good antidote for Plovestop is the local Bitcoin meetup. Dish the plovs on the sloppy socials and join the pioneers on the local frontier. Can't find the meetup? Start one.

1:19:31Richard Greaser You know, Rahab Huddle, I think this is really depending on your location. Because if you're like, I know you're doing a lot of meetups in in rural areas where the pioneers live, but you go to Orange County, California, You go to New York City. You you go to some of these places, and the only people that show up to these meetups are Plebslop. So I think it it really is,

1:19:55Rod Palmer The meetings are a reflection of their local communities, you know, and Anaheim, California, Orlando, Florida.

1:20:07Rod Palmer I mean, listen, you're you're at Disney World. That is like ground zero podge slop. It's gonna, it's likely that you're gonna have to deal with pub slop there. You might, you might have to start a subversive need up, honestly. Might have to go to Bakersfield. Yeah. Bakersfield,

1:20:22Richard Greaser Joshua Tree. That'd be an interesting one. You know,

1:20:27Rod Palmer Wake up, Texas. You know?

1:20:30Richard Greaser Dude, Waco, Texas would be a sick spot for Bitcoin meetup.

1:20:35Rod Palmer Oh, yeah.

1:20:37Richard Greaser Is Is that where Luke's gonna go? He's gonna start his, no fads. No fads.

1:20:43Rod Palmer Yeah. Maybe. That's when it's, Sasha May sets. Part time create pioneers, pioneers create all time highs, All time highs create plug slop. Plug slop creates hard times. Thank you. I knew there was something there. Sasha, thank you for putting that one. Help rearticulate that one. And

1:21:05Rod Palmer I need to screenshot that and then post it on the on on Twitter.

1:21:12Richard Greaser I'll send it. That's a great one. Yeah. Sasha's been all over our stuff recently. We got we got a new fan, I guess. It was exciting. Welcome to the intellectual silk road, Sasha. Shadrach three hundred twenty three sat says, spoon fed plump slop.

1:21:31Richard Greaser Strong-arm emoji. Hashtag 40 HPW. So I I thought this was really funny this week. I got a video sent to me by Shadrach or he he tagged me on Noster and he opened I I launched a new album. I released it, last week,

1:21:54Richard Greaser and, he sent me a video of him opening up his talk to this really heavy dubstep song at a Noster event. I thought it was very, very funny and great. So I appreciate that, Shadrach. Love Shadrach.

1:22:12Rod Palmer Hell yeah. Next 121 sats, pies, salute, flex, mushroom emoji. Thank you, pie.

1:22:21Richard Greaser Hell, yeah. Pies. BTC on board. 100 sats. Salute emoji, two thumbs ups. Pyro Hawk, 100 sats. Hard forks creep. Pioneers

1:22:32Rod Palmer pioneers create vibe code. Vibe code creeps, plug slot, plug slot that creates hard forks. That's another take on it. Barb, pyro hawk.

1:22:43Richard Greaser You think that's do you think that's, Derek Ross's alt account?

1:22:49Rod Palmer From IVD.

1:22:51Richard Greaser Alright. Dave's looking for a discussion here, it sounds like. 100 stats. Says, hey, Dick. Gloria Zhao is hot. Mister Hoddle is doing the Lord's work educating Nazis zero knowledge plebs on Twitter spaces. He was also the pioneer brain behind Shinobi's podcast, The Block Digest, in 2017. Build the pioneer bridges you wanna see.

1:23:15Rod Palmer Shaking it off. And, and Dave is also so you were asking what is g z I h stand for? I mean, he was posting, acronyms last week, and that's what it stands for. Gloria is hot. Wow.

1:23:29Richard Greaser I can't believe I missed that. That should have been pretty, self evident. Yeah. No. Sometimes that you ever have those moments where you're looking for your glasses and they're on your head? That was probably one of those moments for me. You're looking you're looking for your lighter. It's in your pocket. You're looking for your pack of cigarettes

1:23:48Richard Greaser just rolled up in your short sleeve t shirt sleeve. I have those moments every once in a while. Yeah. You know, on mister Hoddle, he may have done cool things. Just point this is like, saying that he was a part of a podcast in 2017 is the same as saying that Luke saved Bitcoin three times, so therefore, his opinion is correct today. It's the same line of thinking.

1:24:16Richard Greaser When when you rest on your credentials or or you veer off into the weeds, and what mister HODL does is he goes in and he decries the hard work of Bitcoin podcasters. He he tries to minimize the impact that they've had on the world. And what he's doing is he's not educating

1:24:37Richard Greaser zero knowledge plugs. What he's doing is he's arguing with sea lions. And the zero knowledge clubs are are listening to the arguments between him and sea lions, and they're signing with the sea lions. Like, why why why does Tomer, you know, have any relevancy right now? It's because he can go and he can sea lion with mister Hoddle and Shinobi. And the and the zero knowledge plaives that have already been converted and and have their opinions made up by mechanic. Like, the one of the problems with if you're if you have no knowledge on a topic and you have a really strong opinion on it,

1:25:19Richard Greaser you're not gonna get your opinion changed unless you get kicked in the knot. Almost always. That's where these guys are at. And so having like, thinking that you're you're you're sitting there and you're explaining these basic concepts to people, and you're trying to explain to them that the house is on fire or is not on fire as a productive activity,

1:25:42Richard Greaser you're you're you're not you're not changing any opinions. All all that people are are seeing when they're watching the dialogue happen over and over again and get recycled over and over again, like Mr. Hoddle's doing on Twitter spaces every day, him and Wicked, is they're reinforcing it in a lot of ways.

1:26:04Richard Greaser Entertaining the sea lions reinforces the zero knowledge plaab's opinions. Because what what a lot of these guys will do if

1:26:18Richard Greaser this stops being a relevant topic that everybody's all wound up about all the time, they're just gonna forget about it. They're gonna look at their start nine node, their nonce node that they've never used once. They might breathe a fresh a breath of fresh air and say, Wow, I'm decentralizing the network by, plugging that thing into my internet and never looking at it or using it. But that might be the extent. It's the the the the crusade, it kinda loses its power in a lot of degrees. But yeah. Anyways, you know, mister mister Hano wanna do something productive. He could start a Bitcoin podcast, or at least he could

1:26:57Richard Greaser have some respect for the people that are actually doing productive things with their time.

1:27:05Rod Palmer Yeah. The next one is a 100 zaps and BTC on board. A flip side psychosis is unconsciously holding so many back from achieving their potential. Sad. I agree. It's that's a that's a good way to put it. Hell yeah.

1:27:20Richard Greaser Well, that's the boost for this episode. We got a new, got a couple new subscribers. Wanna shout out these guys. Avi, Open Mic, Shadrach, Turkey, Late Stage Huddl, Sean, Southside Dave, Fundamentals, Sasha

1:27:39Richard Greaser Sasha Hodder, Rob Hamilton, and, Silas, Thornbrook. Appreciate you guys. We we're getting some, we're trying to be just put out more

1:27:55Richard Greaser paid content. Heard some really good feedback about, your episode with Mars. I think some people got a little bit, triggered by the, the the Crater intro on the Goomba episode, though.

1:28:12Rod Palmer Yeah. Yeah. I think you have definitely checked out those two. Mar me and Mars is a, does a clinic on group chats. So if you're interested in group chats, check that one out. I put out a rant. I I was feeling really, really good

1:28:28Richard Greaser when I finished that, Doomsdays DJ song. So I ran it about the end of the world. We got the Rod Palmer Job interview out there. I did an early release of my, electronic album, but that doesn't matter now because out there,

1:28:46Richard Greaser we've got I don't know. Let me let me know, guys. If you if you would like to see early releases of songs that we think are bangers on found. And if that's something you're interested in, let let us know. And I could do that more consistently. But if you don't care, we'll focus on other things. But,

1:29:07Richard Greaser yeah, you got any closing thoughts before we wrap this one up, Ron? Just remember you can't reason with Pub Slop. I want to thank you guys for listening to this additional edition of the Beagle Weekly. It's a four turn in. Things are gonna be tough. Find somebody you love

1:29:29Richard Greaser and just give them a hug. Look them in the eyes. Let them know how much you appreciate them and, like, really be genuine about it. Take a moment before you go and do this and, like, gather yourself for a minute. Get emotional. Get emotional about how much you appreciate this person. Go look them in the eyes

1:29:49Richard Greaser and really let him know. But only do that with somebody that's worth the time. If they suck, don't don't don't fucking pretend. But, yeah. Find somebody you love. Give them a hug. Let them know you appreciate them because we're gonna need a lot of hugs. It's the fourth turning. Hard times

1:30:09Richard Greaser make hard men, doesn't mean hard men don't need hugs too. But folks, we'll catch you on the next episode, next week. A man stands

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