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Transcript: Orange Pilled Pioneers | Bugle Weekly Episode 63

0:00Richard Greaser The word pleb has been used far too long to denigrate individuals using Bitcoin. The origin of the word came from Rome to refer to the common people or lower social class. It was a term that continued to be used in Europe to refer to the non nobility. The plebs or plebeians were not landowners.

0:27Richard Greaser In modern slang, it refers to people who follow the crowd, outsourcing all their thinking to the experts. While the term has been affectionately adopted by many individuals interested in Bitcoin as a way to signify that they were not bought by PodConth, it does not accurately describe who we are. The forty hour per week podcast listener has been at the tip of the spear

0:53Richard Greaser adopting this new technology. We are builders who took tremendous risks to lay the foundation on which the future will be built on. The early pioneers in the American West were individuals who either left Europe or were ancestors of those who left Europe in order to settle the frontier. Many were slaughtered in the process. The ones that survived were the toughest, most determined individuals who were too stubborn to die. Let me ask you, are you a pleb or are you a pioneer? For years, we have waded into the unknown, experimenting with new wallets that have no documentation,

1:32Richard Greaser deploying miners in ways that no one had ever done before, we have dived into command lines, installed alternative operating systems, and been at the forefront of going into the wilderness to settle it. Some of us have lost more Bitcoin than we even own today. We have blazed trails and through self custody, have staked our claim on the Bitcoin blockchain itself, a claim that we can pass down to our descendants.

1:60Richard Greaser Most of us have suffered in order to create a better future for our children. The pioneers who settled the West embarked on journeys of adventure and danger because they were not satisfied with their lot in life. The modern orange pilled pioneers have done the same. We have faced being socially ostracized, labeled as fanatics. Some have even attempted to mock and ridicule us.

2:27Richard Greaser We chose to continue forward because we had conviction, not only in Bitcoin as a technology but in our own capabilities as individuals to think. Going against the grain of society

2:40Richard Greaser is either a mark of bravery or insanity. What distinguishes the two is the outcome. We were not insane, but we were right.

2:54Richard Greaser We are not a lower class. So let me ask you again, are you a pleb or are you a pioneer?

3:07Rod Palmer Welcome to this edition of the People Weekly. This is Richard Grieser, and folks, pleb is dead. Pleb is dead. The reason why he's dead is because it was it was stupid from the offset. The thing you have to understand

3:26Rod Palmer about the term pleb, plaib is like being European at the time of the founding of The United States. So all these people came to The United States. They were pilgrims. They traveled across the ocean. They were true pioneers of their time. The story of the pioneers settling the West,

3:46Rod Palmer going into nature nature, going into danger, exploring the unknown in a hostile adversarial environment, that is what we're doing as Bitcoiners. We are not plebs. We are pioneers. We are the ones that are selling this feature. We're the ones that are are demoing

4:06Rod Palmer applications that are progressive web apps. We are the ones that are learning how to use the Lightning Network before there were tutorials made for it. We are the ones that are battling in the trenches fighting the bad UX in order to be able to use this technology so that one day all the other MPCs

4:31Rod Palmer can do it themselves. We're the ones trail blazing the way. We are documenting this process. We are documenting it as Bitcoin podcasters. In no way are we plebs, we are the pioneers changing the future of the world.

4:50Rod Palmer It's time to just ditch that word, to ditch pleb. You know who's a pleb? The paper Bitcoiners. Paper Bitcoiners are the pleb. They are the ones that are refusing to go out into the future, to trail blaze the way for people, they are actually actively going in the past. It's like the people that chose not to come to the new and explore the new world, that stayed in Europe, that stayed cucked. What are your thoughts on this, Ron? How are you doing today? I think I

5:20Richard Greaser think it's a very simple once you recognize it. And I think you're right. The the new plaids are the paper Bitcoiners, but there's a lot of people in between who they, they come up to the edge of the frontier

5:37Richard Greaser and then they get nervous. They start to think I can't handle the user experience roughness that I think I can. I'm getting comfortable. I kind of thought I got a little Bitcoin and I thought I was, you know, cycle or two in. I was gonna be able to retire, focus on podcasting full time,

5:58Richard Greaser relax by the pool, like Dieter, Bob. I just wanted to stay a pleb or rich pleb, but it's not how it works. We're pioneers now. And if you have to, if you have to say,

6:15Richard Greaser you know, if you have to grieve, your, your past pleb, that pleb who has died. So the pioneer could be born, go ahead and grieve it. I wrote a song about that. It's called the orange pill blues and the orange pill blues. It's, you know, it, it, he gets to the point where he is like, give me the, the two blue pills. I don't want the red pill anymore. I don't want the orange pill anymore. Give me two blue pills. So it'll cure my orange pill ills. But

6:45Richard Greaser the moral of the story is you were pioneers and what that means. Now that we're orange pill, we can't go back. There's no going back. There's no going back to being a status cuck. There's no going back to, you know, jab me harder daddy. There's no going back to I just do what the TV tells me to everything will be fine. You know, I can let the journalists on TV do the thinking for me, it'll be totally fine, but that

7:14Richard Greaser we can't go back to that. We just can't. It did. It's like it would it's like trying to go back in time, it creates interference. It's like a feedback loop that you just can't get through. But we're pioneers in what we, what we are sent to do is to, is to blaze this user experience trail as far as we can. So that just like now,

7:36Richard Greaser BlackRock, Fidelity, Wall Street, call all these paper Bitcoiners come in behind us. And that's where they start to build and kind of create this new strong economy. And we're the ones that are out there making sure the economy will always be fine and making sure we always have, they'll always be able to afford our taxes, but there's no going back. And we're pioneers now. And pleb, a pleb is somebody who is, is stagnant. You can't listen to forty hours per week and and remain a pleb, I guess, is what I'm saying. Why, why do people leave Europe to come to what is now known as The United States?

8:14Richard Greaser Well, because they, for, you know, no cigarette taxes, grow tobacco, be able to have that, that kind of freedom.

8:24Rod Palmer They came here because they were tired of being ploughed. They they could not own land. The monarch owned the land. They were tired of being ploughed. So they traveled across the ocean, which was a dangerous experience in of itself. It's not like going on an airplane. Travel across the ocean, it's a difficult process, probably getting seasick the whole time, high chance of getting disease. There's a high chance of death. And then they settled on the East Coast and they're like, wow,

8:51Rod Palmer there's this whole West that we can explore and we could travel to that's unsettled. We can go and start anew. We plan on, we plan our flag and we might struggle but we're gonna struggle for the future generations

9:09Rod Palmer that our ancestors, our children could benefit from our struggle. They can grow the civilization and prosper in this new world, in this new land.

9:22Richard Greaser But it takes that commitment. It takes that change of mindset to become a pioneer. And it can But you you don't go from from plaid to pioneer. There's a middle process. There's a transformational process. And that's being a pilgrim. The plaids had to become pilgrims who became pioneers.

9:44Richard Greaser And the pilgrim part is ironically the scariest part. It's not the a lot of plebs know they want to be pioneers, but the pilgrim part and fundamentals knows this. Right? He talks about it on rock paper Bitcoin. It's convincing your family, convincing your wife,

10:02Richard Greaser convincing your children, convincing your, your community, your church that you're to become a pioneer with you, to come with you on this journey. And, you know, you just described like all the risks, all the unknowns,

10:18Richard Greaser all of the hard work, all of the lack of, pre built user experience, you have to start from scratch. And it's very difficult to get yourself to be able to accept that. It's even more difficult to get your wife and your family to become pilgrims and just don't angle on that journey with you. And they might not even make it. You guys might not even make it on, you know, the crossing, but you have to try because it's better to be a plant. But if you succeed, if you build that user experience,

10:49Richard Greaser and you build that new, you know, Sovereign Citadel essentially on the other side, once the conditions become good enough, you'll be able to bring paper Bitcoin in and the paper Bitcoin will attract the Jews and once the Jews come in, that's where you start to be able to have, you know, Jewish lawyers, Jewish accountants, good culture, and you know, like what we have is Hollywood but the arts, we want to have the arts

11:16Richard Greaser and once you start to build that culture, then, you you keep you keep moving west and the further west you go, the more value you'll find but not everybody's gonna be coming to to Philadelphia, coming to Boston, and gonna make it all the way to San Francisco, to California. Yeah. It's an important distinguish or thing. How do you convince your wife to be a pilgrim? How do you convince your wife who knows the pilgrim story that she's gotta do that too with you?

11:45Richard Greaser We might have to go to a place where there is no target. You might have to go to a place where, you know, there is no bath and beyond or bath and body works.

11:56Rod Palmer There's no create user experience for women. This is a struggle that many men had to deal with in the settling of The United States to convince their wives to move out of the city, where there there weren't these luxuries, that they had to let go of. They had to let go of the safety and and and travel into the unknown to to face adversity. And

12:21Rod Palmer use beef tallow for their hair. Yeah. I mean even to like if they were using beef tallow, you know, you go out away from civilized settled society into the frontier. If you're gonna use beef tallow for your hair, you're gonna have to butcher that cow yourself and extract the tallow yourself because there's no butcher there for you. You're doing it yourself.

12:46Rod Palmer It's a it's a it's a fully sovereign lifestyle.

12:49Richard Greaser You might, you might have to spend your days, wrapping your house, you know, rolling your husband's cigarettes. Is that something you're willing to do? Or maybe, you know, maybe you'll, but you'll still be you and your husband will have to roll cigarettes together, Your own cigarettes together if you wanna smoke. And and if you are trading with other people, it's gonna be a little bit more difficult. But, you know, I think this is you know, you're you're the pioneers of the digital world

13:12Rod Palmer in many ways. You're you're we're pioneering this digital money for the first time, as far as we know, in in human existence that this

13:25Rod Palmer is happening. And it's important. It's important to understand. But, yeah, there's a lot going on in the world, Rod. It's been an interesting week. It's been it's been an interesting year to say the least. And I think we're kind of getting accustomed for the last, you know, at least five years of just like mayhem,

13:49Rod Palmer it seems like every day. The the news cycle is you know, journalists used to have to make up sensational news stories. Now you just get to report on what actually is actually happening. There there isn't as much creativity needed in order to captivate the audience.

14:11Rod Palmer We got Trump versus Elon, the fight. So e Elon called Trump a pedo. You know, the maxes are upset about him. They they didn't like that he spent his blackmail tokens. You've got

14:29Rod Palmer Jeffrey Epstein, being revealed to have invested in a hedge fund tied to Peter Thiel and Palantir. Well, I don't know. Some crazy stuff. You got the riots in LA. You got people getting wound up. And then you got the corniness for the versus the Nazis.

14:50Rod Palmer It looks like the the corniness are gonna be victorious. It's a wild week. It's been a wild week. I have a feeling like it's not going to slow down. Like next week's going to be pretty wild as well.

15:06Richard Greaser Yeah. I think what you what you right now is you're finding out that the leaders, the most powerful people are distracted with their own internal disagreements. Elon Musk, he's spending his his, you know, his blackmail tokens on Trump this early in the administration. And he's showing he was really upset about the budget.

15:31Richard Greaser The first real big bill that came up in this administration, and he didn't you know, the the big, beautiful bill doesn't pass Elon Musk's purity tests. So instead of, you know, he but he wasn't gonna he was him and Tom and Thomas Massey and Rand Paul. They're not, they're not voting for any bills that don't pass their purity tests. And this has been a, a theme

16:01Richard Greaser outside of politics. Everybody's failing purity tests and people are ramping up the strictness of their, their purity tests. But but Elon Musk, he he duked it out and he blamed, he he said Trump was a pedophile and that, he was in the Epstein files. He he played his hand and Trump just kind of decided, Hey, like, Elon's out of the way. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go suppress the riots. And if I'm gonna go

16:28Richard Greaser deploy the military into California and distract everybody from this. So it's, it's, it's all theater, whether or not it was scripted. It's theater. It's kayfabe. It's they're using riots in California. Think about it. Like, what does everybody in America

16:50Richard Greaser want to see? They want to see LA burned. They want to see Los Angeles. They want to see California burn. So Trump's letting California burn. He's right ratcheting up the riots for the summer. And, you know, it's to distract you from something. Palantir? I don't know. Elon Musk? I don't know. Epstein? I don't know. But this is a pretty it's a pretty entertaining distraction. Yeah. It is it is interesting.

17:14Rod Palmer I find it strange that Trump's so motivated to prevent to try and prevent California from burning. You know what I mean? It's like, those guys are always trying to burn down the state. There's the thing about the leftists is they're always trying to burn down everything and I don't understand why, why anybody wants to prevent them from doing it. Now Right. It's

17:36Richard Greaser what the democracy out there voted for. They voted

17:40Rod Palmer to burn everything to the ground. Yeah. I mean, it's what Mike Brock has been advocating for. I I don't know why he would be upset when it's finally coming to fruition, you know, in his hometown. He loves LA a lot. And, it's yeah. You you say it's a distraction. So it sounds like this is the first time that the US military is getting deployed, at least on the books. Like, you know, they they do all sorts of funky stuff with the military, stateside all the time covertly. But, the first time publicly, you know, being reported actively by journalists that

18:15Rod Palmer they're gonna be deploying, it sounds like, the marines in in Los Angeles to go fight, the blue hairs. Who do you think is gonna win the fight? Do you think the marines are gonna win or the blue hairs? No. Yeah. So so so if that is probably what you think of

18:31Richard Greaser when you think of what's happening right now. But that's why it's important as journalists to to follow these so closely like we do. It's, the blue hairs of the military now. So the Marines are lesbians, non binaries, blue hairs, and they're deploying to Southern California to fight, the Mexicans and the black people.

18:54Richard Greaser And that's, you know, that's, that's been the showdown this whole time. So all the white people, all the like hillbillies, the hicks, the, rednecks, like the guys who you would probably call racist, they're just they're just hanging out gambling

19:10Rod Palmer on meme coins and, you know, sports. And it's the blue hairs versus the minorities. No. I I think that one of the most impressive things that has ever happened in the history of The United States is how the Biden administration was able to turn the military woke, especially the Marine Corps.

19:32Richard Greaser I mean, that's that's the ultimate prank, right? He's like, you know that Donald Trump is coming in or at least they, in their mind, they said, Donald Trump's coming in. He's gonna take over. He's gonna be an authoritarian dictator. He's gonna, execute project twenty twenty five. So how do we stop this? Well, we, we turn all of the military into the gay and retarded.

19:55Richard Greaser And then when Trump thinks over and has power, his military is just a bunch of gay retards, just a bunch of woke gay retards. He can't win. He only can't take over. He can't conquer with the gay retarded military. So it's it's, you know, it was a it was brilliant foresight, honestly. Wow. Think about it. If we're fighting, if we're fighting the state, I'd rather be going up against gay retards than like the guy from Shooter with Mark Wahlberg, he's like a sniper or Chris Kyle, like, no, fuck that. I'm going up against

20:26Rod Palmer non binary like woke people. Jason Peterson (3three 30 three): Yeah. I mean, it's an impressive transition when you can change a culture so quickly, like, very, like, long standing culture. So, like, the marines have always

20:43Rod Palmer and and I have to preface. I I have, I have not I never served in the military. And my understanding of the military is not, like, firsthand. It's it's secondhand of interacting with a lot of veterans throughout the years, reporting on the military quite a bit as journalists. My my understanding of the Marine Corps is the Marine Corps consists of the most retarded people in the military

21:10Rod Palmer that are also, you know, like, take a pride in taking they take pride in wanting to go kill people and also being politically incorrect. So, if they don't

21:25Richard Greaser They don't listen to forty hours per week of Bitcoin podcasts. Like they don't even listen to any Bitcoin. They wouldn't be there if they was the Bitcoin podcast.

21:32Rod Palmer Mhmm. Like, it's like it's almost sacrilegious not to call somebody a faggot in the Marine Corps or or to say the words gay or retard. And then for it to turn into a woke ecosystem

21:48Rod Palmer in general, you know, it's just this I can't even imagine what it would have been like to have Yeah.

21:54Richard Greaser They banned let's put it this way. They banned microaggressions from marine boot camp. They can't even have microaggressions there. So do you think that you remember you, you watched all these movies about Marine Corps bootcamp, like full metal jacket. Like it drives a guy crazy who kills his bootcamp instructor. That's not like that anymore. No, it's, it's, it's more like the teachers from TikTok are the, like, the from Libs of TikTok are the ones that are leading the boot camp, you know Yeah. These days. It's crazy. The the cadets

22:27Rod Palmer in in boot camp are dressing down their drill instructors for their their white male privilege. Like, the the tide has turned. It's it's it's absolutely insane. So, yeah, now the woke army is being directed at going and, and crowding

22:48Rod Palmer the rowdy Mexicans and black people in LA. And it is going to be very, very interesting. But the Trump administration,

22:59Rod Palmer once again, is trying to revert course and turn this around, like make the Marine Corps retarded again

23:12Rod Palmer and, based. But I don't think he's had enough time to accomplish that. Like, that's gonna be it's gonna take a while to to revert back because you can't just like fire everybody. You know what I mean? And start over.

23:25Richard Greaser Yeah. And the worst thing about the Marine Corps, I talked to a buddy, so they have you, you have to address your drill Sergeant, sir. Yes, sir. Yes. Yo, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. And they didn't add any pronouns because Trump took out the, Marine Corps's ability to insert pronouns into those instructions for bootcamp. So the Marines that are coming out of there, this is the only thing that's going for them. They're unable to,

23:53Richard Greaser to address their non binary drill instructors properly. They're misgendering them every time they try to obey an order. So they just have to get they just get yelled at even further for being for being misgendered. And they come out of it's like they have shell shock before they even get out of boot camp. They've been yelled at and screamed at and punished in boot camp so many times that it broke their brains. So this could make them more dangerous than the retards of the past generation. Maybe we're underestimating

24:25Richard Greaser them.

24:27Rod Palmer Yeah. Well, I I wouldn't necessarily call what's happening in LA a distraction. I think I think it's it's more, I mean this operating the media apparatus, you learn how these things work. So essentially the CIA goes

24:45Rod Palmer and these other groups go and they go drop a bunch of pallets of cinder blocks or bricks in a city and then they deploy their assets and they're like, hey, let's get rowdy, start riot, start throwing them in. So you've got you've got the CIA fighting, in this case, the marines, and you've got the journalists there, you know, documenting it. And the journalist's job is to go out there,

25:12Rod Palmer you know, record what's happening in video, make it as sensational as possible, and terrify the boomers. Your job is to terrify absolutely terrify the boomers. They the boomers need to be quaking in their shoes. And then

25:30Rod Palmer as you do that, once the boomers are scared, then you come up with a solution, which is to surveil everybody with Palantir. We need to surveil everybody with Palantir so that the CIA agents don't start more riots. It's an interesting thing to watch play out over and over and over again. And, you know, LA is a good place to do this. LA historically has had a lot of rowdy

25:55Rod Palmer rowdyness. Now, where do you think? Yeah. Like the

25:58Richard Greaser this is, I mean, the the LA, the Rodney team riots. I mean, that they burned down a lot of, lot of of Los Angeles, during those riots. But one thing that came out of a great meme that came out of the nineteen ninety two riots was the meme of the rooftop Koreans, the Korean

26:19Richard Greaser immigrants who, lined the rooftops of the Lloyd, their, their parts of town with guys with guns, sniper rifles, and they were there to protect, like they were, they were like Kyle written houses planted all over their neighborhood to protect it, to protect the property, protect their, their sovereignty. And, you know, this makes me think of the core meanness. I mean, we're, there's so much conflict right now. It makes me think of the core meanness versus the Nazis. And I think that the Nazis

26:50Richard Greaser are becoming, or they're kind of reaching the conclusion perhaps that they need rooftop Koreans to protect their nodes. You, you can't rely on core. You can't rely on the consensus making authority figures, the centralized figures, at least as they see them

27:09Richard Greaser to protect their nodes. So they need rooftop. They need a rooftop Korean software to snipe all the spam. And maybe that could be a solution.

27:17Rod Palmer Maybe that's the only solution. Interesting. Yeah. I mean, it's not that hard to do this shit. So Adam Cemeka came to an interesting conclusion is, like the rooftop Koreans, the state really doesn't like people like this. They don't like the it's why they they they tried to throw the book at Kyle Rittenhouse. They don't like it when individuals go out there and determine to

27:44Rod Palmer to protect their own property. It interferes with the operations that are happening. They don't like that at all. And Adam Cemeka had a, you know, very interesting idea, which is that if you don't like the idea that Core is merging

28:05Rod Palmer the Opera Term PR, they just don't update your node, that you don't necessarily have to run not. And this is the thing that's so fascinating about, like, open source software. You know, my wife was explaining it to me. You could go on GitHub and you could fork core

28:25Rod Palmer and have literally everything that you wanted in core except for that one thing. And you can sit there as they they roll out updates. So, like, say there's some sort of update that they push because there was some sort of exploit that was found. And you could just merge that immediately into your your repo with the with the all with with your very own

28:51Rod Palmer implementation of core essentially. And you could be your own own Luke and not have to to trust him and his weird parameters and whatever he's doing. And that doesn't necessarily have to be, you know, following the the the fear of Bitcoin nodes. It's and I I know a lot of Bitcoin podcasters don't talk about this.

29:16Rod Palmer They don't talk about this. You know, I don't know why they don't talk about this. It's probably because they don't understand it or they don't have a wife that, like mine, that could explain it to them. But there's so many ways out there that you could be like the rooftop Koreans and you could protect yourself. You could be your own rooftop Korean to protect your note. That's what people don't understand

29:39Richard Greaser is there's nothing preventing you from doing whatever you want to protect your node and to, to limit the ordinals from infecting your node. And

29:52Richard Greaser you don't have to trust core to do it. I think this is like why everybody's like freaking out. It's like they want to trust Bitcoin core. It was they never thought they couldn't trust Bitcoin core. I mean, some of the OGs have been through this stuff before, but there's so many people that have come into Bitcoin and been listening to podcasts for years, who just didn't realize that they couldn't trust the core devs. They didn't realize the core devs should be allowed to have sex. They didn't know that there was even a question about the core devs having sex. They didn't know anything about these core devs. And now there's all this drama and it's like, I want to trust Bitcoin core, but I think I have to trust the Nazis because at least they seem to be wanting to protect

30:34Richard Greaser my node from outsiders, from invaders, from fucking riots, from fucking spam, from all this. It's like, no, you don't need the Nazis. If you don't trust core, you can be your own rooftop Korean. You can go wherever you wanna go. Totally.

30:53Rod Palmer There's more ways there's more ways to and this is why forty hours a week is important because you need the entropy to understand. You listen to one podcaster, they're gonna have opinion, listen to another podcast so they completely have a different opinion. And you kinda work through this process in your brain where you're comparing and contrasting what they're describing, but then you have to listen to a third podcaster who's getting a completely different opinion. You listen to all these opinions and it's not about choosing which opinion to follow, it's about choosing your own opinion, based on, you know, a wide assortment of information. And maybe maybe the Bitcoin podcaster doesn't explain everything

31:31Rod Palmer to you and spoon feed it to you, but maybe they prompt you in a direction that you can actually go and explore it yourself. And instead of just, like, listening to what this guy thinks about it, you end up on GitHub and you start looking at this stuff yourself.

31:46Richard Greaser But if, if, but if you, if the court does, just to turn this around, the court does want to have that respect and authority and they want their, because if you don't have to trust the experts, but there are some more expert opinions than others. They're gonna have to do more than just sit back and rest on their credentials. They're gonna have to reach out

32:09Richard Greaser and break bread with Justin Bechler. You're gonna have to reach out and break bread with ocean and Mechanic and these influencers, if they want these influencers to recommend Core and say that they are worth, you know, respecting. Justin Bachelor,

32:28Rod Palmer I I'm wondering so like Justin Beschler brought up a point. So he he talked about how the Cordevs are self appointed. I wonder, do you think it would be reasonable to do, like, a a tournament on Twitter similar to Maxi Madness as far as who the Cordevs should be and have kind of like a rotating or or or yearly competition

32:51Rod Palmer in order to determine that? Like, would that be an effective way? Like, to make it more democratic, should should Teddy Bitcoins be

33:02Richard Greaser a core dev? Yeah. Are there is there any this is an opens anybody can anoint them or appoint themselves to be a core dev. Some people think that they have to know how to code if they want to appoint themselves to being a core dev. That is a misconception. Shinobi is a good example of that. But some most people don't have the confidence

33:28Richard Greaser to appoint themselves to the accord that they have imposter syndrome. So they they are projecting this, this sense of superiority or this arrogance or this elite elitism onto the core devs. But, you know, that is

33:47Richard Greaser if it's fair, it doesn't the rule's not fair. Perception is reality. So these court devs, they have to they have to do a better job of of of showing people, or you just have to to learn to become a court editor yourself. But, otherwise, it's

34:06Richard Greaser the heavily armed clan. He's helping people become court devs, but there's just no easy solution for this,

34:12Rod Palmer for breaking this conflict, I would say, from that perspective. I think I think one of the things that's limiting people from going out there and becoming core devs is the term pleb. People consider themselves plebs. They don't see themselves yet as pioneers. And I think this change, as a pioneer, you're already wading into the unknown. You're wading into danger

34:34Rod Palmer dangerous places and and and facing your fears head on. You're not you're not sitting as a peasant trusting your lords to take care of you and protect you for you, like when you're a plub. And in this case, you know, there's the plubs and then there's the influencers and the podcasters and the podcasters in many ways are like the lords, you know, protecting the clubs. As a pioneer, you can go on GitHub

35:01Rod Palmer and and you can join the mailing list and you can it it the barrier to entry to say Ack or Knack to comment that is incredibly low. I think I could even figure that out without my wife's help. How to get on GitHub and say Ack or Nack.

35:22Rod Palmer And then you're part of this discussion. You're not necessarily a core dev at this point, but you could learn to be. You go take lessons from heavily armed clown. He'll teach you how to code in Rust. Yeah. What did Luke what did Luke say about Rust recently?

35:38Richard Greaser He said He said that it's woke.

35:40Rod Palmer What what are your thoughts on that? Is is Rust

35:43Richard Greaser woke? Rust community is woke. I don't know if that makes Rust woke. That's a really good question. It is it's used by woke people. It's liked by woke people. It is maintained, and, it is to where its progress is driven by

36:02Richard Greaser a lot of woke people. So, you know, Rust itself is a is a programming language. It can't be woke. But the argument that it's being crew it's it's being groomed by woke people, by woke programmers,

36:18Richard Greaser that would be a fair assessment. Yeah. Rust is being groomed by what programmers. So, so what's the base

36:24Rod Palmer language? Is it Go? Is it C plus plus or is it,

36:30Richard Greaser I'm not a developer. I don't I don't know. The base the base computer programming language is JavaScript. You know, JavaScript is, is, almost anybody can use JavaScript. It's, it's a very blue collar,

36:47Richard Greaser programming language. It is it's taught, but it's it's moderate because it's tolerant to it's not, bull, if you want to be the beauty is TypeScript, JavaScript, if you're super based, because types TypeScript allows you

37:03Richard Greaser to have strongly typed variables. So you can say, this variable can either be a male or a female. There is no non binary. In JavaScript, you can have non binary variables. So,

37:18Richard Greaser but, yeah, TypeScript. I guess it's TypeScript for sure. So it's TypeScript versus Rust. And those are your two choices. If you want to build a company, if you want to build on Bitcoin, if you want or, you know, anything layer two and above, you gotta use TypeScript, JavaScript, or Rust. So you gotta be WOKER based. And that's I mean, that might change in the future, but it hasn't changed in a long time. So we'll see. That makes sense.

37:43Rod Palmer I think Discord is, primarily run off of JavaScript.

37:46Richard Greaser Correct? It wouldn't surprise me. Yeah. I mean, most, almost everything. Like, like, even the most compliant, secure, or at least something that you would consider compliant secure, especially, is built on JavaScript now.

38:04Richard Greaser That we, at some level, most of the apps on your phone are built with, some sort of JavaScript.

38:12Rod Palmer So like Zeus wallet is primarily JavaScript. That's how they do their cool graphics in

38:20Richard Greaser it. Yeah. Zeus wallet would be impossible without JavaScript. Interesting. So like some people want to use the, like, Halloween clown. He wants or he thinks he doesn't just design what he wants. He thinks that Bitcoin core will be, using brass. It'll be rust Bitcoin

38:39Richard Greaser within five to ten years. So heavily armed clouds just saying he thinks Bitcoin will be woke in five to ten years. That's all we've got. So if you want something other than core, you've got a fork now. Not I don't mean fork consensus. I just mean fork. We need to balkanize Bitcoin clients. We need I think I said this yesterday, we need a fed client for for a minute. I think it's coming. Crypto US government official note. Because

39:06Richard Greaser if you know you're interacting with a fed client, if it at least identifies itself, it gives you a little bit, you say, alright, I'm dealing with a fed right now. You could have, you know, the most compliant node, you could have not so you could have, you can have your own version of a of a woke Bitcoin client, you can have a JavaScript Bitcoin client that would be like a base to Bitcoin client. You have anything. You could have Python, you could have Java,

39:34Richard Greaser you could have c, you know, Bitcoin Core C plus plus so you could do one on C sharp. You do any Perl, PHP. Honestly, the the the only limiting factor is people's creativity. I don't believe there's a JavaScript Bitcoin implementation yet. I think,

39:50Rod Palmer no. Yeah. Yeah. You might be right. I looked this up recently. I was looking at all the different implementations. That's where I I learned that there was a a rust Bitcoin implementation and that kind of surprised me. So there is a woke Bitcoin node implementation out there. I think the majority of them are written in C plus plus Like I think we were really C plus plus as well.

40:14Rod Palmer But yeah. Anyways, so on the front of the battle between the Corvinus and the Nazis, it it it seemed like the Nazis were made some progress throughout the conference. I left believing

40:32Rod Palmer that, CORE was not gonna merge the PR, but then learning this week, they're, they likely will. It sounds like they are looking to do that next week. Is that correct?

40:44Richard Greaser Rob? Oh, I think, well, the people I spoke with said one to two weeks. I don't know about next week, but, yeah. Before the July 4,

40:54Rod Palmer for sure. I think one thing that's incredibly important is we when you're looking at a future date and you're giving somebody a timeline, you can never say two weeks. And the reason why is because

41:09Rod Palmer they ruined that during COVID. They said two weeks to flatten the curve and that two weeks turned into two years. That's just a you can't do that. So it either has to be one week, 1.5,

41:22Richard Greaser or three weeks. Or you could if you wanna say two weeks, you can't say two weeks. You can either be gay and say fortnight or you could say 2,000 blocks. Yeah, that's a good point. Use time. Yeah. Use the time chain reference. So at some point in the next 2,000 blocks, you should start, you, you, you should see that merge.

41:45Rod Palmer The next difficulty adjustment. Exactly.

41:49Richard Greaser Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But a lot of the solutions, a lot of things we talked about, in turn in, in how to frame and think about the perspective of this conflict is very low time preference stuff. High time preference speaking. Do you think that

42:08Richard Greaser there's gonna be, you know, we we're seeing protests in Los Angeles over, these ice rates. Do you think we're gonna see protests like this in the Bitcoin space from sees from people who don't know how to code and don't think they have enough time to code, which they don't probably most of them before this gets merged. What do you think's gonna happen? Is this gonna be a bitter battle or is it just gonna go quietly?

42:34Rod Palmer I think it's gonna be a bitter battle. There's a lot of talk on Twitter about fighting, like fist fighting. Not just not just Twitter fighting. Not just going into the Twitter spaces and calling each other retards like, fist fighting. And I I I think that could be a reality. And, that's something that, you know, oftentimes happens when, you know, people feel like their religion is being threatened as they they throw down. And we very well could see, things escalate. Conferences

43:06Rod Palmer could be, you know, significantly more contentious, times when people are meeting together. I would I would not I would not be surprised because these Nazis are really they've they've really taken the the stand

43:22Rod Palmer that they do not want their nodes raped. And Yeah. I think that that's not Yeah. That's not hyperbole to them. They Yeah. See JPEGs on their node actually as rape and This is

43:37Richard Greaser I think that you're, you're very correct on the possibility or the inertia going towards there being some sort of physical consequences, physical violence as a result of

43:51Richard Greaser this, you know, debate about Bitcoin core clients and things like that. When they come in and the devs, you talked about, like, Bitcoin tree, Asano goals are you threatened shinobi? And it's only escalated from there. And, yeah, I there's this video series that came out a few years ago. And it included Eric Weinstein, and he talks about the he talks about this term, k fave. And k fave is like this stratification of fiction and reality

44:19Richard Greaser that blurs the lines between fiction and reality in a by the time by the the complexity that it that it the form it ultimately takes. And he it's it's why he calls he talks about this with the in the video talk compares it to pro wrestling, why, politics has become pro wrestling. And he uses a lot of good examples. And he talks about kayfabe emerges when when there is a

44:45Richard Greaser an environment or a topic or a community that is extremely important, but very boring. It's like Bitcoin is such an extremely important technology. But it was ultimately at when you boil it down to its basics is a is a pretty boring thing to most people, the majority of people. So to create excitement, to create hype, to help it grow,

45:13Richard Greaser and to gain more attention, you have to weave in these layers of fiction similar to pro wrestling where there is at any given moment, everything you the the the conversation, the mood, the subject is based on true reality. It's very unclear what is real and what is fake. And that is what's happening in the Bitcoin space. And you're starting to see KFABE on the timeline.

45:49Richard Greaser But when the KFABE gets out of control, it can lead to real violence. And it uses examples of, like, some of these professional, wrestling, live events where people got really upset about the outcome of a match and like the kids started rioting in the Madison Square Garden and like people were literally, injured, like cops were attacked. There were,

46:13Richard Greaser the performers were fighting with the crowd because it bleeds over into real violence. I think there's risk of that happening here. I think somebody could be at a at a Bitcoin podcast or a Bitcoin conference and they get punched in the nose and then they go on. They have to go on what Bitcoin did next the next week with a black eye. And I think something like that could happen. You could see black eyes on podcasts as a result

46:36Richard Greaser of this conflict. It's very real reality. Yeah.

46:39Rod Palmer I think this is, this is just what results, you know, when people feel powerless. And I think this is, you know, who seemed to appear to be some of the most like active and upset people when it comes to knots? Or sorry, it comes to the opportune stuff. It's the plebs. Well, if you're referring to yourself as a pleb and you think of yourself as a pleb, of course you're gonna feel helpless

47:06Rod Palmer because you're essentially telling yourself that you're too retarded to own land. You're self limiting yourself. You're fucking I own real estate on the digital Manhattan. You're telling yourself you can't own digital real estate, that you have to buy the paper Bitcoin, that you have to buy MicroStrategy, you have to buy the ETFs. It's not true. You can own real estate on the base layer today. You can be a landowner. You can be a pioneer. You can go settle the unknown and you don't have to feel powerless as a result of it.

47:39Rod Palmer You don't have to get into this situation of

47:42Richard Greaser I need to punch Shinobi in the eye because he called me a retard. You really punch Shinobi in the eye if he called you a retard if you felt like you deserved it.

47:50Rod Palmer Why else would you punch him back? Well, the reason why these guys are getting so upset about Shinobi calling him a retard is because they actually feel that way because they look at themselves as plaids and they're essentially telling themselves that they're retarded themselves. That's why they're so upset. If Shinobi called me a retard, I I wouldn't care. Shinobi doesn't fucking smoke cigarettes. He vapes.

48:11Richard Greaser Imagine having such a imagine having such a low self esteem that you willingly join the Nazis and let somebody like Luke Dasher be

48:25Richard Greaser your leader. You say you say I need a leader. I need somebody to think for me and to be my Bitcoin gatekeeper. And I wanna do it with the Nazis, and I want my gatekeeper, my leader to be Luke Dasher, Luke junior. I

48:42Richard Greaser imagine having such a low self esteem. I feel bad for the Nazis. It's like Nazi, the Nazi client is for helpless plebs. And I would just hate to be viewed as a helpless pleb

48:57Richard Greaser by myself, first and foremost.

48:59Rod Palmer It's like joining the Hitler youth voluntarily. You don't have to do that. You don't have to feel you don't have to feel hopeless. You don't have to call yourself a fucking pleb. You can be a pioneer. You can join this great endeavor to settle this world,

49:15Rod Palmer to bring hyper Bitcoinization by being a pioneer. Not being a passive player, trusting the lords, the Bitcoin podcasters to do a trusting trusting the king, Michael Saylor, you know, to rule rule the way there.

49:32Richard Greaser If and if you white your wife to get on board with being a Pilgrim, sure. What a husband pioneer is like before you make that journey, before you get her to go sure what a pioneer is like now Show her she doesn't have to be married to a pall anymore. She could be married to a pioneer

49:52Richard Greaser and show her that where you're going, they don't need Dennis Porter to get directions.

49:59Rod Palmer Maybe she'll be more on board with it. Before we go into the final boost, I did want to say real quick. I think one tactical mistake, that much of the Bitcoin community has allowed to happen, kind of like the anarchist community in general, is to allow Seifedean to, and Svetsky and these guys to parrot

50:21Rod Palmer Hans Hermann Hoppe and discussing my monarchies are better than democracies and like how that's even like a relevant discussion to have. People left Europe because the monarchies are gay. They're fake and they're gay.

50:38Rod Palmer They retire to be in pledge. They wanted to own land themselves. They didn't want the king to own the land, for them and rent it to the lords and then for the plaives to In many ways, we're back in that kind of like fetal society and I think maybe that's the reason why people, you know, they they get done paying their property taxes and they're like, yeah, I'm a pleb.

51:04Rod Palmer I don't actually own this land. I'm, seeding seeding it to or renting it from, you know, the lords being the county operators who then are are essentially accountable, you know, to the king. And in this case, the king being in the king's court being the president of The United States.

51:25Rod Palmer It's monarchies are gay. They're fake and they're gay. People left this shit to get away from that. In the same way. You think caves, yeah. Yeah. So if you wanna be gay, you know,

51:38Rod Palmer continue to, to pair these ideas by Hoppa and by Sephadean, parodying Hoppa. Let's shut it down. Let's shut it down folks. Monarchies are gay. Democracies are gay too, but monarchies are way gayer.

51:57Richard Greaser Everything, everything is KYC in a monarchy. So if you, if you love KYC, you'll love a monarchy.

52:04Rod Palmer It's like, it's like everything's paper Bitcoin, you know, the king, the king actually holds the keys. And you might be living on that land, but you don't have control over it on the base

52:16Richard Greaser chain. Steve Adubato (3five 30: You can't even hire Jewish lawyers to help you if they try to take your land in a monarchy. At least if you have a Jewish lawyer, you have a chance in a democracy.

52:25Rod Palmer Well, I mean, they they they're you can have Jewish lawyers in a I get what you're saying. Yeah.

52:31Richard Greaser Well, Lexington doesn't listen to a Jewish lawyer in a monarchy. Well, there's no if you don't want Jews around though, you might actually like a monarchy. I think that would be a big mistake to what I would choose. Oh, I agree. I agree. But I feel, yeah. Yeah. Big mistake.

52:47Rod Palmer Like where who's going to make the movies? Yeah. You want to be stuck on importing Netflix. No, thank you. You want the white women to be making the movies? Are you fucking kidding me? The HR to take over? Absolutely not. Alright. Found a boost. First boost from late stage HODL.

53:07Richard Greaser I think his second tweet or his second boost is the one that, with the right spelling. I think he was an error on the first one.

53:18Rod Palmer Blade Stage Huddle, a lot of these guys double boost every week because it's I wonder if it's like found splitting it or something like double sends it. But either way, the boost are appreciated. Keep on double boosting. Hate, I missed the event. Keep up the good work, boys.

53:38Rod Palmer Yeah. Really would have been cool to meet you at the event late stage huddle. We like meeting our podcast listeners. It's one of my favorite things to do. I did a whole long tweet thread, about that last night and it probably wasn't like the most coherent because I probably should have been sleeping instead. It was very late. But yeah, I mean, we had a great time

54:03Rod Palmer meeting our podcast listeners. One of them got Barminer got Rod and I these really cool Zippo lighters. I got a They're awesome. I got I got a couple Zippo lighters, from different people and that was pretty cool.

54:22Richard Greaser I got a precision drill from Barn Miner for free. It was awesome. Just gave it to me. Yeah. I gave him some stickers. Yeah. And if you are if you're a podcast listener and we haven't met before and we wouldn't recognize you necessarily, you might be a nim and you do wanna talk to yourself to us. Also, make sure you tell us how many boosts you've given us over the year,

54:45Richard Greaser over the years, so we know how much respect to give you.

54:49Rod Palmer Have you used, Maggie's, her,

54:55Richard Greaser cup yet? Her mug? Coffee mug? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I had an espresso. Mine's a little smaller. I had an espresso in it this morning. Maggie's good at Maggie's like a she's a great girl. And like all the girls, she's good at arts and crafts. She loves arts and crafts. Absolutely.

55:13Rod Palmer I I'll say it. Like, it it really it it really meant a lot to everybody that that got me, a gift. Like, the the Scardust shirt, really appreciated that. I mean, I'm trying to remember if I'm forgetting anybody because I mean, there was a lot of things, that people gave us and,

55:34Richard Greaser like what we Eric Cason gave us some cool shirts. Shadrach,

55:38Rod Palmer didn't necessarily give me anything, physically, but you know, being around him, being around fundamentals, being around these guys. It is a gift. It's an incredible gift to hang out with our podcast listeners. Very, very special people.

55:55Richard Greaser Our our podcast listeners are gifted. 100%.

55:60Rod Palmer They're incredibly gifted. Yeah.

56:02Richard Greaser Yeah. Man. They are gifted listeners. I love every single one of you so far. Late stage huddle.

56:09Rod Palmer I'm I'm gonna freak out when I meet late stage HODL. I'm gonna freak out when I meet, Goomba. A lot of these guys that yeah. We're we're gonna have a good time. Hopefully, it happens someday. It doesn't really necessarily have to happen at the at the the big conference, but, you know, it'd be cool to meet people at our events that we plan on doing in the future around the country. Thank you for the boost, late stage huddle. The next boost

56:36Richard Greaser is from Dave forty HPW. He boosted 4,200 sets. Name your most valuable pleb of the Podkamp Super Bowl. Easy.

56:47Richard Greaser Easy. Adam Simica.

56:50Rod Palmer Adam Simica is not a fucking pleb. He's a pioneer. He is out there. He's building a lightning wallet right now. He is one of the first people to do a Bitcoin transaction in a Steak and Shake restaurant. He is on the front lines.

57:05Richard Greaser He is the most valuable pioneer there. Thank you. We're not doing most valuable pleb. He is the most valuable pioneer. Adam Semeka is the, epitome of a pleb to pioneer transformation. A 100.

57:22Richard Greaser He's in Maxi Madness next year if he keeps up

57:24Rod Palmer his pioneering experience. Phil Champagne (3five fifty seven): Well, let's talk about who the most viable or valuable Plav is. Do you think so there's a few that we could pick from. There's like Peter Schiff. Peter Schiff's a pleb. Fucking retard. Peter Schiff's the most valuable pedophile, not pleb. Oh, okay. So he gets removed from the list. Two L's. There's green candle. Green candle's a pleb.

57:45Richard Greaser There's- Trey L. I. Green? Eddie Bitcoins,

57:49Rod Palmer he's a pleb. He's a micro strategy shill. He wasn't at the conference though. Sailor's a pleb until it's proven that he actually custodies his own personal keys. His gay fiat company,

58:08Richard Greaser Joey from the Canadian Bitcoin podcast, he's a good pleb.

58:13Rod Palmer He doesn't run a node. Yeah. Very plebby.

58:16Richard Greaser Oh, we got to hang out with Shane. Shane Shane on Shane on you. He doesn't, he he doesn't have a hardware wallet. He's a great pleb.

58:25Rod Palmer Solo Satoshi. Solo Satoshi is a blub. He's like the Oh, yeah.

58:32Richard Greaser He's like, he he's like the the you don't like those pictures of, Jay Vance or of like the, like the really jolly Santa Claus around. He's like, he's jolly max. He's got this big, old bright red cheeks, that solo Satoshi man. He's got that, that jolly maxing pleb. He's a power. He's a power plug. He's a power plug. Yeah. Power plug. Dude, I I think Literally, literally.

58:58Rod Palmer I think that Solo Satoshi's a good candidate for most valuable plug.

59:03Richard Greaser Yeah. A 100%. He's decentralizing the network. If he decentralizes the network is listen. That's a perfect example because running a bid ax is a thing for plebs, not pioneers. Pioneers don't run bid access pioneers. Don't waste your time with bid access, but if you wanna be, you know,

59:26Richard Greaser a plaid who has bid access, he wants to decentralize the network. Just feel good about yourself despite contributing nothing. Then, yeah, it's a plaid move. You know, Solas Toshi is your leader. Ryan Duffy (3zero 50: Yeah. He he

59:39Rod Palmer I don't think you were at his panel, but I was at his panel and I didn't listen to a minute of it, but I saw him on stage and just from seeing him on stage, it was electric. You could feel the decentralization there. It was palpable. I I felt so inspired.

59:57Rod Palmer I took a picture of him. It was yeah. Solo Satoshi wins most valuable club of the conference in my opinion. Well, thank you for the boost, Steve.

1:00:11Rod Palmer Sean for 4,000 sets says, Rod Palmer bring the old voice back. The people spoke and, I stopped going to my professional podcast classes. I think we're gonna see some volatility in your voice going forward.

1:00:25Richard Greaser Probably. Probably. But for now, give the people what they want. I guess so. I'm not gonna play. The next one is ten ten SAS from blizzard gay feds everywhere these days. Tell me about it, man. Eric gay beds everywhere. We orange build a lot of gay feds,

1:00:46Richard Greaser sad to say. And listen, I think a lot of those gay feds are, they're in a lot of these crazy esoteric Bitcoin and spaces related group chats, cat fighting with each other, and then catfishing each other. Stay away from JFEDS.

1:01:03Richard Greaser That's all I have to say. I'm the gay fed matter. At least this week. I'm sick of talking about gay feds. Yeah. I'm pretty tired of it too.

1:01:11Rod Palmer It's, just call if you see somebody that's gay fed, just call them a plab. Yeah. Plebs

1:01:18Richard Greaser day feds love calling themselves plabs. So when you hear that,

1:01:23Rod Palmer run. Yeah. Oh, next boost, 500 SaaS from Turkey. And then we got BTC on board, 300 SaaS, thumbs up, thumbs up, thumbs up. Thank you, BTC on board. I think the last two

1:01:40Rod Palmer are from Pies, it looks like. So 100 sass for Pies. I look forward to it. Hopefully, it's a weekend. I don't go out on school nights.

1:01:48Richard Greaser We talked about going to the East Coast.

1:01:51Rod Palmer Yeah. Well, I don't know. I mean, I was talking, with Jeremy about when to run the event, that we're thinking about doing. And I was kinda thinking Friday night would be

1:02:05Rod Palmer it's hard. It's hard, you know, because, like, unlike the busy nights, it's harder to get a venue. But I understand how traveling on a week night might be difficult to do. Yeah. It's Yeah. More to come. More to come on that. So, I think we should take Pye's feedback on this one very seriously though. Because Pye is we want you there.

1:02:25Richard Greaser There we go. Yeah. No. Yeah. Pioneers Pioneers retired on weeknights.

1:02:33Rod Palmer I got it.

1:02:37Richard Greaser Pies the pioneer. Hell, yeah. Yeah. Strive to be like Pies.

1:02:41Rod Palmer Well, it's been a Alright. Well, no. It's been a crazy week, folks. And I anticipate the next week to go crazy at all or or or sorry, to continue to be crazy. I just said a nonsensical sentence because I'm distracted. But yeah, we're we're gonna be here with you through this next crazy week and and the weeks going forward. Tune in to the Beagle News for the most thermodynamically

1:03:09Rod Palmer sound news in the world. Thank you for listening to this episode, and we will catch you on the next one.

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