0:02Richard Greaser Welcome to this very special edition of Behind the Podcast. This is Richard Grieser. Joining me today is Tatum Turnip and Rod Palmer. Tatum Turnip is quite the individual. You may know him or you should know him as

0:21Richard Greaser this very autistic guy who wears a bulletproof vest and interviews somehow interviews the biggest names of Bitcoin. He is famous for having been the guy that scared Jack Dorsey away from doing Bitcoin podcasts. He's done Dorsey's done a few podcasts since, but he has not really been on the pod comp Bitcoin podcast tour. You can thank Tatum turn up for that, for scaring him away. How are you doing tonight, Tatum? What's going on?

0:53Tatum Turnip I'm good. Just, getting ready for Vegas and learning now that I'm the reason that Jack has not made his podcast tour, so I wanted to publicly apologize about that.

1:07Richard Greaser Yeah. I mean, the thing about Dorsey, if if you know a lot about him, he he's an autistic guy as well. And the thing about autists when it comes to podcasting is you can't have two autists talking to each other

1:22Tatum Turnip because it's two autists. Has to be smart. One of them has to be cool. And I think that we broke that because neither of us I think he was kind of he kind of hogged the like, half smart, half cool, and I just had none. And I think we just kinda broke the system altogether.

1:42Rod Palmer I do it. Yeah. One question about that, and I think a lot of people are wondering this. Before the Jack Dorsey interview, you were,

1:54Rod Palmer you know, your hard work at Bitcoiner, and plan but you weren't the type of person somebody would think is gonna weigh in one of the very exclusive Jack Dorsey interviews. But you were also

2:11Rod Palmer a guy who knows how to make a per good first impression. And I think maybe that can you just explain how you got the Jack Dorsey interview that you didn't deserve?

2:22Tatum Turnip Yeah. Absolutely. So on Noster, I DM'd him and said, hey. If I come to Costa Rica, can we do an interview? And he responded simply, yes. And that's how I got the interview.

2:38Rod Palmer So being yeah. Are you being in early and so we talk about the revolution will not be will not have good UX. And this was this is before primal app. Right? Like, this is when This was on I mean This was on Domus. Yeah. When it was Yeah. If you think Noster sucks now yeah. And you reached out. He said, I'm still I'm gonna I'm gonna ask Jack the recipient of my Bitcoin podcast, and it worked. So it's, yeah, that was it's actually a pretty good story. I didn't know that.

3:07Tatum Turnip Yeah. No. You can just do things for real. Sometimes they'll respond to you. Sometimes they won't. That's also how I got my first guest, Anthony Pompliano. I just asked him on my birthday publicly on Twitter at a Pambliano, do you have something to say to me? And he DM'd me and said,

3:28Tatum Turnip what are you talking about? For some reason, I don't know why he chose to DM me to ask me about that. And I was like,

3:34Rod Palmer I'm sorry. Wearing a a a a bulletproof vest when you did this?

3:38Tatum Turnip I don't even know at the time. I don't think I was. I think that was, pre me getting this stupid ass vest. But he I told him, hey. It's my birthday. And he responded happy birthday, and I was like, cool. Thanks. By the way, I sent you a media inquiry, and he's like, okay. Come to Miami. And so I did.

4:01Tatum Turnip And then Corey Klipston responded to my DM, asking to be the first guest as well. And I told him that there was already a first guest, and he prompts me promptly blocked me until Pacific Bitcoin $20.22.

4:18Richard Greaser Sounds like Corey to me. Actually,

4:22Tatum Turnip I don't know I I wanna go ahead and put it out there for for in case this lands on some certain years. I love Corey. It was a big misunderstanding, but yeah.

4:33Rod Palmer That's a good way to do it. Yeah. Let's see what y'all love Corey. Yeah. If you're a Bitcoin

4:40Richard Greaser podcaster, you don't wanna burn bridges with Corey because he might hire you someday.

4:45Tatum Turnip Yeah. They've I've had to actually decline a few offers from them. They're like, damn, dude. This this show fucks.

4:51Richard Greaser They were they were just weren't willing to pay you enough. Yeah. Yeah. No. You were wearing a Vulture vest in your interview with, Pop, actually.

5:02Tatum Turnip Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was when I started filming. I don't remember when that actually entered the scene, though, actually. I remember why I got it. I was watching, like, a music video or something. Something where a guy was wearing a bulletproof vest in a scenario where he definitely did not need it. And I was like, damn. He looks cool as hell. So I went and bought one, and then I got it. And I was like, I don't know when the hell I'm gonna use this. And then I got on a a call after,

5:33Tatum Turnip a work meeting, so I had a button down and tie on. I was like, oh, this would be silly if I put my bulletproof vest over this. And someone got a screenshot, and, unfortunately, I'm married to that personality now.

5:46Rod Palmer So are you familiar with, this the comedian? What's his name? The he's Shane Gillis. You familiar with Shane Gillis? Yes. Yes. You know Shane Gillis? He's got a joke or he talks about, the way he looks and just carries himself, he he might get confused for being Down syndrome. Do you think that some of these people saw you walking around Bitcoin conferences

6:15Rod Palmer dressed like this with your bulletproof vest and think that, like, oh, this this guy's retarded and he's still fucking a Bitcoiner. Is that he's gonna start a Bitcoin podcast? Like, good for him. I wanna go on this guy's Bitcoin. I wanna be his first cast. I wanna welcome him to the space. Do you think it may be that there's just a slight chance that

6:37Tatum Turnip that played a part of it? Yeah. And, honestly, when you put it that way, I think that kind of also explains the slowdown. I haven't recorded in a very long time, and I think that it was because people started realizing that I am just, you know, a regular pleb, not a Make A Wish kid or anything. They're not the kind of retarded they thought.

6:57Rod Palmer Right. Right. Right. They thought. Yeah. Exactly.

6:59Tatum Turnip So I think that they've just kind of stopped.

7:03Rod Palmer They've been yeah. They couldn't just go on your show and shill. Yeah. You would actually ask them, you know, a really dense question that would fluster them. Yeah.

7:13Tatum Turnip Yeah. And, you know, I I try to I I can't really get out of this hole anymore. You know? I've dug it so deep, and there's no ladder around. So we'll see what happens. Maybe some magic happens when I'm in Vegas and,

7:28Rod Palmer you know, season two gets filmed and How many gets going. So Yeah. That's a good point. How many years ago was the it was, like, three years ago now, the Bulbriere Vests thing. And how can you still can you go on a podcast without getting asked about it? You're the Bulbriere Vests guy.

7:44Tatum Turnip Nope. Nope. It's part of me now.

7:48Rod Palmer Hell yeah. Yeah. There's worse things to be. Right? Like, it's worse that it's like Hottle Magoo, who's the Gareth Holloway They just, they got one thing

8:02Rod Palmer and it's embarrassing but you're just you're just like you said, you saw it one day and you're like, that dude looks badass Worst case scenario,

8:09Tatum Turnip you're the badass, you know, bold, provisque guy And then I put it on and looked in the mirror. I was like, oh, I don't look as near as cool as that guy who's rapping. One day.

8:20Rod Palmer Yeah. That's yeah. I have that problem too. I I always think I'm gonna look as hot as the model, but usually it's like DMX or a basketball player, and I'm not I don't look like that. You know? Yeah. I'm a cigarette smoker.

8:34Richard Greaser So one of the one of the things that I'm really impressed with probably the most impressive interviewer or guest that you've had on your show is Dennis Porter.

8:44Tatum Turnip Yeah. I, had to pay 3 Bitcoin for that appearance, but Wow. I think it it turned out pretty good.

8:54Richard Greaser I'm glad you did because you you in doing so, you protected all of our rights. We're all still able to use Bitcoin today because of that donation to Dennis. How how did you keep it together in the interview? Like, if I was interviewing Dennis, I'd be so intimidated. So, like, you had, like the the camera shot included your legs. How do you not get a boner during the interview

9:19Richard Greaser and have that ruined?

9:20Tatum Turnip Anti boner underwear. I have to wear them in all of my, all of my interviews, actually. There it's like a hard covering. It's actually pretty painful, but you you gotta do what you gotta do for the content.

9:35Rod Palmer So why do you should be selling these if people were people are going to the Bitcoin conference in Vegas and they're there at any moment. They could run into Dennis Porter or see him, you know, a video of him and they don't wanna just get a boner. Like, if everybody had these boner underwear, I think the cops you're holding out on us, man.

9:60Tatum Turnip Yeah. Honestly, I I've been I've been looking at some redesign, but I think that, you know, don't fix what ain't broken. So I might bring some some to Vegas. So if you're listening to this and want a pair of anti boner underwear, come find me, and I'll hook you up.

10:17Richard Greaser I'm gonna hit you up as soon as I hit Vegas because one of the things I'm really afraid of is I'm gonna run into dentists at the conference. It's gonna be a very awkward situation.

10:26Tatum Turnip Yeah. Don't worry. These these prevent those awkward situations. Also, I'm working on a line that, gives a fake bulge, in different sizes. So those are coming soon. Just follow me on Twitter for updates on that.

10:42Rod Palmer Do those do those work? I mean, do you get some do you get girlfriends with us? No. Are you look are you single right now? Are you looking for a girlfriend, a Bitcoin girlfriend, orange girl girlfriend?

10:54Tatum Turnip Yeah. If you are a woman and understand Bitcoin, please hit me up. Preferably, you know, we're gonna get into specifics. Single moms. Let's see. Redheads. That's really you know, single redhead moms would be a great marriage of those two. So just hit me up if you match either or both or none of those qualifications, honestly.

11:24Richard Greaser Let's let's hear a pitch. So what what's your pitch on why a woman should be your girlfriend?

11:35Tatum Turnip I am I can match you on an emotional level. I'm super dramatic. I'm gonna cry a lot, even over small, inconveniences. I I I don't bring much to the table. I'm a be real.

11:53Tatum Turnip I can I can lift I can lift heavy rocks and put heavy rocks back down?

11:58Rod Palmer Yeah. Yeah. Let's let me let me help you out here. So I think I think you're you're explaining way more than you have to. I think he needs to lean a lean on you. You have the the thing that most women are looking for is you're tall.

12:13Tatum Turnip You're tall. Oh, yeah. I forgot. I I dude, also baby blue eyes. I am six foot four, baby blue eyes, and you know what? The big one that I can do is the there's one that I missed. Forklift certified.

12:27Richard Greaser There's another one you missed. Probably the most important one that you missed. It's not forklift certified? You're a Bitcoin podcaster.

12:36Tatum Turnip Oh, yeah. I see, sometimes that's a that's a divisive thing to women. You know, your strengths is the problem. So I need to learn how to leverage it, I think. And, you know, honestly, I've been kind of apprehensive as of,

12:51Tatum Turnip the launch of the show to call it a podcast, as you can see in episode three with BTC Sessions. But, ever since I started listening to the bugle, I've realized I am the 1%,

13:04Tatum Turnip and so I am a Bitcoin podcast.

13:08Rod Palmer Yeah. Hell yeah. You should yeah. You should be proud to be a Bitcoin podcaster. And you know what? You just look at your catalog. You've already described you had Jack Dorsey. You had, BTC Sessions, Dennis Porter.

13:23Rod Palmer Who Can you name the other big guests you had?

13:27Tatum Turnip I mean, Vivek Ramos, Swamy, Anthony Pompliano, Peter McCormick, Joe Biden, a few other ones too. Steven Lukas, Preston Pish. Okay. Lynn Alden. Lynn Alden.

13:43Tatum Turnip Hi.

13:44Rod Palmer See, most podcasters have to record 50, a 100, maybe a couple of 100 episodes, before they get to interview all the people that you just mentioned. And

14:01Rod Palmer 99.9% of Bitcoin podcasters will never interview all of the people that you've already interviewed. So a, I think you needed this motivation because after that run,

14:19Rod Palmer it's gotta be kind of a letdown. You're gonna have to start going down the roster. You're gonna have to start talking to people like, you know, Ben Justman, who's a great podcast guest, but he's not on Mount Rushmore. He's not Lynn Alden. And it could be hard to, you know, Adam Semeka. I mean, the steak and shake thing was crazy, but it's like, it's not Jack Dorsey. It's not Paul. So,

14:46Rod Palmer Hey, you need that motivation. You need to do it for the love of the game. And I think if you really start to understand the value of being a Bitcoin podcaster, it will actually bring you like, you know, to, to, to interview, you know, a fellow plan. And,

15:06Rod Palmer also, you know, you've got so many thumbnails that you can work with now to launch that YouTube again. You are a star in the making. You just you you you struggle from a beginner success. You just succeeded too hard.

15:26Tatum Turnip Yeah. And people sometimes ask, Tatum, where did the pod go? Where when are you gonna start it up? I am starting it back up, but you gotta understand something. I'm kinda fucking retarded and don't know what's going on. Yeah. That's it. I don't know how to run a production company. It's me and some guy from Idaho named Carl.

15:50Rod Palmer You are not you still don't have anybody, a trusted companion or anybody to help you to the user experience. You've gotta get through the user experience yourself. You got to this point like being early on Noster and DMing Jack Dorsey. If you could do that, you could figure out

16:09Rod Palmer how to record yourself and put yourself on fountain. I mean

16:15Tatum Turnip I do have I'll retalk I'll retalk to you too. I think two or three episodes of between two nodes, which was a spin off on fountain, and then that just ended up it I just hated recording that. It was more serious and just ended up sucking.

16:32Rod Palmer What do you think the difference was? What was the difference between two ASICs, between two nodes, And you go you you switch from ASICs to nodes,

16:40Tatum Turnip and it gets why? It gets too serious? It's too personal? It's too peer to peer? One of them was core. One of them was not, and none of them were economic. So, no. But, it was more long form, more serious. And it was fun, but it just was a pain in the ass to film for, like, two hours and then edit that. And, also, it was virtual, so it felt weird, like, to get done talking and then close my laptop, and I'm just in my room. It's like, oh, man. Now I'm depressed again. So that's why I do enjoy doing between two Asics and season two, AKA the Tim turnip show, because it's gonna be all in person because

17:23Tatum Turnip that's just kind of how a lot of the the jokes go. They they don't land if they're over, like, a video call or something like that.

17:33Richard Greaser Who's your white whale?

17:36Tatum Turnip My white whale?

17:37Rod Palmer Yeah. Like Who would you wanna air? Are you a sailor?

17:41Tatum Turnip No. Honestly, I I actually have sailor locked down, but I don't even know if I wanna film with him anymore. I don't know why. It it's a weird feeling. But I would say probably damn.

17:57Rod Palmer There's some alien people out there of TJ Miller. TJ Miller TJ Miller or Zach Galifianakis

18:03Tatum Turnip just because to bring the everything full circle, but I'm scared to get a CND if I do interviews at Galifianakis. So I'll go with TJ Miller.

18:14Rod Palmer What what is it about TJ that does it for you? Is a guy with goofy curly hair that's been really successful? He's inspiring to you. Six four blue eyes. He could play me in a biopic, or I could play him in a biopic one way to get it. I just I just wanna I just wanna roll back a little bit because I just want to make sure everybody understands what we're dealing with here. Because there's so many people out there who they put so many hours into their podcasts, their Bitcoin podcasts, recording, finding guests, doing the editing, doing the clips, promoting, and they reach out to these people in their DMs and they say, Do you want to come on my, my Bitcoin podcast? And nobody replies

18:56Rod Palmer And here you are. You've got Saylor locked down according to you, but you're not even sure if you wanna do it. You've already interviewed Lynn Alden, Pop, you know, the guy who was gonna be in Doge with Elon, Vivek, Gramma, Swamy, Steven Wabka, BTC Sessions, Jack Dorr how do you

19:17Rod Palmer it's like a it's like the all star lineup. Just it's so easy for you to get these interviews. And all you gotta do is just hire one person or just like do the do the recording. You could be a star and I think a lot of people are jealous of you and I think that, this there needs to be a show about your life, but be like entourage. You just have to get a girlfriend, a Bitcoin girlfriend, and it and it's it completes the whole thing. That seems to be the biggest obstacle, though. That and also making money from doing this too. I don't know how people are making money,

19:50Tatum Turnip but the the all the sponsorships that I have, they're just referral codes. No kickbacks. It's exclusively listed. My they tried offering me a kickback. Blockstream did. I told them, nah. It's for the love of the game. But now no one else is offering me compensation. So I'm like, oh, shit.

20:11Rod Palmer But, yeah, I I I need a girlfriend. I think that's the missing key key factor. I need some arm candy at the conferences. See, I behind every good Bitcoin podcast is, you know, a good girlfriend or a wife. And you need that that woman behind you because you just you're just worried about too many things. You should be worried about doing what you do best, which is being a Bitcoin podcaster. And you need a woman to take care of your life because it's like, I don't have time to deal with my job and shoveling snow or doing the dishes or figuring out who's gonna I will who's gonna get my bed gonna be clean? I don't know. My girlfriend does that. I need to focus on the signal. I need to be listening to forty hours, recording forty hours, discussing game theory and incentives,

20:57Rod Palmer discussing these things. Bitcoin has already won. The people around me don't understand that. I have to study it so I can guide them through it. And that is what you are meant to be and that's what you were meant to do. It's very obvious. You just have to have a girlfriend. So the the world needs you and a girl you need a girlfriend to set you free.

21:18Tatum Turnip Behind every great Bitcoin podcaster is a Bitcoin girlfriend.

21:25Rod Palmer Do you have any, like I mean, if you if it who knows who your girlfriend's gonna be, but if you could pick from the different Bitcoin podcasters, the girls, you know, the influencers in the space, Isabella, she's pretty hot. She might be your age. But then who would you pick? Like, who would you like to meet in in Vegas and have your first kiss by the big orange, like, the big orange dome where it's Bitcoin. Bitcoin. Bitcoin has already won. It's just shining bright for city. That's your first kiss.

21:54Rod Palmer Or underneath the Eiffel Tower. I mean, it's possible.

21:58Tatum Turnip Who do you know? Let's look let's look back at the last time we hit an all time high when I said, if we hit an all time high, I'm shooting my shot. I quote tweeted it with a face app picture of me and said, hey, at Aubrey Strobel. That was it. And I that tweet blew up. Bold.

22:17Rod Palmer Bold it. Maybe you set your maybe you set your sights a little too high. No. Hey. If she's into somebody like Nick if she's into somebody like Nick Carter, she's not gonna be into you. Nick Carter is obsessed with stable coins, US Treasury rates, the the federal reserve, what the what their policy means. You don't

22:38Rod Palmer understand any of that. You understand the real money. You understand Bitcoin. And I just I think Aubrey Stroll was not she's in the stable coin, guys. They're a little too volatile for her.

22:50Tatum Turnip Look. I I can hop on the tether train. Alright? Look. I've I've I've buried my hatchet with tether. Alright? I can I can latch on the else should? Everybody else should because they're gonna take the tether money eventually.

23:03Rod Palmer Exactly. Every You won't take it, and they just haven't offered.

23:06Tatum Turnip Exactly. Tether, sponsor me.

23:09Rod Palmer The future will be priced in USDT. They're they're paying Joe Nakamoto, and they're not paying Tatum. I think that's bullshit, honestly. That's crazy. I've had him on my show. I think by proxy,

23:21Tatum Turnip I should have a share of all of the sponsorships

23:24Rod Palmer for guests that I've had on my show. So BGC says I think Tesla was just sending people on your show for free. And and I'm paying you to have them on. Yeah. You know? Damn. What were you saying? What was your theory?

23:38Tatum Turnip I I just think that, like like, BGC sessions, if I got a portion of his sponsorships because he was on my podcast, then

23:48Rod Palmer I'd be set. You know? And then, of course, I have him Yeah. But could you give people hardware wallet tutorials? Could you actually help people use a spare wallet or connect to Electrum? Is that what your strength is? No. No. Absolutely not. But

24:01Tatum Turnip the incentives are there. It's all about incentives at the end of the day.

24:07Rod Palmer Do do you have any cold cards? How many cold cards are you selling for right now?

24:12Tatum Turnip You know, I actually got gypped from Ben's birthday party. I left my cold card at Pub Key. So, Ben, could you send me a a cue again? Oh, no.

24:22Rod Palmer Most of us have left their cold card at Pub Key. Right. Some people some people leave their credit card at the bar. Big corners leave their cold cards at Pub Key. I know by the hour in laws, I don't you are she don't she also sell jades and bit boxes and all those? Oh, yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah. I actually,

24:41Tatum Turnip this to you anyway. This podcast appearance is brought to you by Blockstream Jade. Blockstream is the open source hardware wallet for the cold storage of of Bitcoin and Bitcoin layer two assets such as Taproot and and lick lick lick liquid. Use code Tatum turn up for 10% off the Blockstream store. Sorry, guys. I had to do that. I I know it came out of nowhere. You couldn't eat, And you can't even get down there. All the help you're looking at. Selling their product. They're not doing too hot of it, so I'm sure they appreciate it. Look. I I I love I love my Blockstream boys. I love You know, Blockstream

25:16Rod Palmer Blockstream is like if Apple only had, a Steve Wozniak and it didn't have the, you know, the Steve Jobs. It's like they got a good product. They've got good technology. They've got all that stuff solid. They just don't have anybody to market for them. They just don't have anyone doing LSD that's in a c level position,

25:37Rod Palmer and that's what they need, I think. They don't have anybody listening to forty hours a week of Bitcoin podcasts. No. If they did, I think they would have a much, I don't know, a much better marketing strategy. Better commercials, better podcasts.

25:52Tatum Turnip Do you think that I'm kinda switching up here. Just a question for y'all. You think that Adam Back is, exempt from the forty hour per week rule? Or should he still have to? Yeah. Should he still be trying to get forty?

26:06Richard Greaser I think he should be banned for most Bitcoin podcasts, personally. Interesting. And and the reason why is he he's like, melatonin or something. Or what's what's that one that that people take?

26:22Rod Palmer I thought you did sleep. It's just it's like counting sheep. Yeah.

26:26Richard Greaser What's what's that one that everybody takes in this Zambian? Is that what it's called? Ambien. Yeah. Melatonin.

26:34Rod Palmer Yeah. For some people, it's, you know, six beers. It puts you to sleep and we listen, Doctor. Adam Back, we respect the hell out of you. You are the father of proof of work, but you have done your job. You know, you don't have to go on podcasts.

26:52Rod Palmer Just post bullish post bullish trading, advice on Twitter once in a while.

26:58Richard Greaser No nobody's exempted for 40 HPW. If Satoshi was around or if he's around or he is around, Peter Todd needs to be listening to 40 HPW too. Versailles, I didn't know what to do. If you created the white paper, you still you can't rest on your credentials.

27:15Tatum Turnip I'm gonna say he doesn't have to go on Bitcoin podcast and put people to sleep. Yeah. He has to listen. What if we everybody's duty, though. What if we flipped it and we made a a playlist of Bitcoin podcast to fall asleep to? And it's the boring ones. But, of course, they're ones that we've already fully watched and made sure that There you go. If you're gonna get some good information, it's just impossible

27:37Rod Palmer to care about it. It's boring. But it is it's capturing that stranded energy or that stranded attention time that you have when you're asleep. That's a good idea. The the another thing too Do five equine podcasts to study too.

27:51Tatum Turnip Exactly. And you can also say without, you know, feeling kinda scummy, yeah, I got my 40 HPW. I even went over because you did. You you had, you know, twenty four hours of podcast replaying on the TV while you work. I wouldn't put it I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't

28:09Rod Palmer frame it as a way to cheek yourself of forty hours of high quality Bitcoin podcast per week. But I would frame it as a way to make sure people who are in comas are able to absorb Bitcoin podcast at a rate that they can actually,

28:27Rod Palmer you know, can actually heal their brain.

28:30Tatum Turnip Actually, you can could burst. I mean, we could try that. We could try that. Yeah. I just don't pay attention when I do listen to podcasts, so I just, kinda fudge my numbers a little bit. I I I listen enough to say, oh, I heard someone on a podcast say something about that and not be lying.

28:48Rod Palmer You're doing like the cliff notes.

28:50Tatum Turnip Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm the chat You just of Bitcoin podcast.

28:55Rod Palmer That sounds valuable.

28:58Tatum Turnip There might be a market for it.

29:02Richard Greaser So, Tatum, how do you feel about your performance in Maxi Madness this past year? Man.

29:08Tatum Turnip Second year in a row that I've been knocked out immediately. Really, really upsetting. But I think that I'm going to

29:18Rod Palmer learn from How would you dance again?

29:20Tatum Turnip Yellow this time around, which was Oh, that's a tough. That's a tough. Wait. Wait. Wait. No. No. No. I was Mandrick this yellow last year. Mandrick. And Mandrick Mandrick honed into the reverse psychology, and that's how he beat me. He just kept Do you think that's how? Explicitly he explicitly told people, do not vote for me. Vote for vote for Tatum. It was a landslide.

29:44Rod Palmer He was following Matt O'Dell's advice. He was staying humble. And women Exactly. They're and not just women. Voters like somebody who stays humble. They want to vote. So for somebody in Maxie Madness who stays humble.

29:56Tatum Turnip Yeah. And, you know, the old saying goes, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame. And,

30:02Rod Palmer so think it's because he's hotter than you? Oh, shit. Or do you think that meander is hotter than you? Do you think that people other people might think that meander is hotter? I think that might be play that into it.

30:17Tatum Turnip Also, I think that people see him there's, like, an aura that OGs, like, just shine. Oh, he's got He's he's got big OG energy. Yeah. He's got the craziest OG aura, and that will trump everything. He could be the shortest, ugliest, fattest guy on the planet, but if he's still the Mandrake that was selling baklava back in 2011, dude, he is sought after.

30:43Rod Palmer Like, look look at Luke Dash. If you saw him in person and you didn't know who he was, you're like, who is this little autistic little rapscallion? I'm staying away from him. He smells like, you know, those little Vienna sausages and a tin can and he's, he's, well, I got bad breath and, but if you know who he is, totally different scenario. Absolutely. He's Lafontkey, that's the Segway guy, this is the guy who was inscribing

31:13Rod Palmer Bible verses on on Bitcoin just to bully around the other mining pools and, like, say that he could. And it totally changes. A blue dash could could get somebody like Aubrey Strobel.

31:27Tatum Turnip I think so. But I was not around early enough, I don't think.

31:34Richard Greaser And would you wanna interview Luke on your show?

31:40Rod Palmer Yeah. What do you think you and Luke Dash would talk about if you had a chance to interview him?

31:46Tatum Turnip Well How would you try connect with him? Well, so I met him in on in Vegas at Unconverscatable, and the only reason I met him was I looked up, and he was just staring at me across the room. And I looked back That was probably powerful.

32:03Rod Palmer Powerful. Do you look up and being stared at by Wuptash here? And you're thinking, does he think does he think I think the pope is legitimate? Holy shit. What the fuck?

32:13Tatum Turnip And then I was like, hey. And he was like, why are you wearing that? And I was like, and then I ran away. I was just talking about the vest. Yeah. Yeah. It was the vest.

32:25Rod Palmer Luke was not Luke Warner, but you of all people, probably wearing a gas mask in his like his winter boots in Miami or Vegas, you know, just came back from tweeting. Yes, I would eat a cat if somebody offered it to me. And then he looks at you and he sees you in a bulletproof vest at a Bitcoin conference. And he says, why are you wearing that? And you're like, dude, this dude just digged the down. The shit out of me. That's so demoralized. Too. Oh.

32:54Richard Greaser Dude's wearing sweatpants. He's probably wearing sweatpants.

32:58Tatum Turnip I think he was, actually. And a black jacket shirt tucked in. Probably had tallow stains on him.

33:05Richard Greaser He's got a shirt tucked in. He's wearing sweatpants, and he's commenting on your fashion attire. What a power move.

33:15Rod Palmer And you're the one that fell insecure, not him.

33:19Tatum Turnip Talosane just took me out.

33:22Rod Palmer Kit Sats Talos is streaming down. Luke Dash's fucking, you know, Costco sweatpants. He's

33:33Rod Palmer and his hair his hair is probably greasier greasier than Kitsap's eyeball.

33:39Tatum Turnip Breaking Kitsap's starts a new business called Luke's hair

33:44Rod Palmer hair. You have freshly you have freshly pressed macro khakis, a collared shirt, some nice Doc Martens, and you're simply wearing a bulletproof vest. I probably didn't even have plates in it. Nope. Right? And and Loupedash has the audacity to pick you out of everybody that could be that he could talk to, to stare you down and embarrass you. Who were was there a hawk girl around?

34:10Tatum Turnip No. It was just us too. It was just us too, which made it so much worse, I think, honestly. Just for him. Yeah. It it you could tell, like, he wasn't doing that for an audience. He was doing that for the love of the game.

34:23Rod Palmer That's why that's that's terrifying. That's a smooth operator. That's a tier one operator. And people think that that he needs mechanic to be his influencer. He is

34:37Rod Palmer the one maybe he's the one that's manipulating, pulling the strings and mechanics. That's just my theory. That

34:45Tatum Turnip I think you're right, actually. Why do you think that Luke comes on all these spaces and podcasts when, you know, all he's gonna do is very quickly say, like, five words, not make a point. Like, no one wants wants to hear that. And nobody can nobody,

35:02Rod Palmer nobody can interrogate him about Bitcoin.

35:06Tatum Turnip But he's Nobody can beat tease. He's the bib guy. Come on. You have to let him talk.

35:11Rod Palmer Right. And think about Eddie Cordev or anybody who's just really that close to the protocol or anybody else that could be interviewed by Natalie Brunel and not be the slightest bit nervous, it would be Luke.

35:29Richard Greaser Yeah. Become the Iceman. If you could go back to that moment and just drop him with a one liner say you're preparing, you know, for years just coming up with a one liner to to go at him to just make him speechless. What do you what do you think you would say?

35:50Tatum Turnip Well, I typically do have a one liner, and I just lost it at the in the aura of Luke, but I'd usually just say just in case, and that usually just shuts everyone up.

36:01Rod Palmer Anyway, your, your one liner to

36:05Tatum Turnip drop Luke, like, is what just in case? Is that what you said? Well, if he if he were to ask me what is that if if anyone asks me why I'm wearing the vest, I always say just in case. But Oh, okay. So I had to approach him. So damn. I don't even know how I would approach him.

36:23Richard Greaser I mean, I think the only thing to do in that scenario is either to say no you or liar. Liar.

36:30Rod Palmer I think no. I think I think you deserve another shot at a first impression with Luke Dash. I think that he should have to come. I mean, he should have to next time he sees you, should have to ask you in front of everybody,

36:46Rod Palmer and you should be able to drop that.

36:48Tatum Turnip Yeah. You know what? I'm I'm gonna publicly call out Luke and say, hey. In Vegas, come find me, and I'll tell you why I'm wearing this.

36:59Richard Greaser Unfortunately, he's not going to Vegas. Oh, shit.

37:03Tatum Turnip That ruins everything now.

37:06Rod Palmer There's a lot of people not going to Vegas.

37:08Richard Greaser Shinobi won't be there. Nobody's gonna get called retarded at the conference. The people who need to be called retarded the most

37:16Rod Palmer right now are the people who will not be there. So think about that for a moment. Think about that. Shinobi, the core dads, you know, their, you know, spokesperson. And then you got

37:31Rod Palmer Luke, the two biggest the people who have stirred up the most drama and wasted the most amount of people's time. We should just be held accountable for what they're doing, and they're not coming. That that should tell you all you need to know. We have the chance to get better influences.

37:50Tatum Turnip In Vegas. We could be the retards.

37:53Richard Greaser We're gonna have a free pass to do whatever we want.

37:57Tatum Turnip No devs. No rules.

38:01Richard Greaser Just Bitcoin podcasters.

38:03Tatum Turnip Just podcasters. When are we having the first Bitcoin podcaster exclusive? Like, filtering every single guest, making sure that no devs or no

38:13Tatum Turnip no businesses, just podcasters come on. When when does that happen? Plugs. Plots? Yeah. You have to And no plugs. You have to have a routine to a degree. It doesn't have to be daily, weekly, anything like that. But to a degree, a routine

38:30Rod Palmer piece of media that you talk on an intro for to be able to go to this conference. Yeah. Like, so like, Ruston on Simply Bitcoin. He's not like the host of Simply Bitcoin, but, you know, he's got that recurring he is putting out content. He's bringing out good content. Yeah. I could that's a bone I have to pick with the plebs. They do they get a little rowdy and a little

38:52Tatum Turnip demanding, a little entitled. They like to mooch.

38:55Rod Palmer They get to they get to mooch all this this content, and they built this. They don't they don't they don't give anything back. No. They just wanna come get free It's easy to tear down a Bitcoin podcast. But what where's your Bitcoin? Can you be able can you do a better Bitcoin podcast? I down it. Anyone can be a podcaster will do it. Go ahead. No one's stopping you.

39:20Richard Greaser Yeah. All the all these people in the peanut gallery, like, Plettator is a good example of this. Plettator is a perf he's a perfect example of the guy who refuses to be the man in the arena. He's the man on the sidelines. He's the guy that showed up to gym class in high school wearing jeans, fusing to put on his gym shorts, and and critiquing

39:43Richard Greaser everybody's, basketball skills from the bleachers.

39:49Tatum Turnip Yep. That's that's that's the exact vibe that he gives off, actually.

39:55Richard Greaser Like, what what what what qualifies you to have an opinion? You don't have a big What Why does Pledger have such a, like, relatively speaking, big following? Because there's a lot of people in Bitcoin that are that person too. They're the guy that sat on the bleachers in the gym shorts during gym class in high school.

40:18Tatum Turnip Yeah. I guess we need representation.

40:22Rod Palmer Yeah. I mean, Pletta has probably DM'd Aubrey Strobel, every hot girl, and told them that she he had, like, inside information on somebody who was scamming or some, like, some Bitcoin podcaster who he finds out that they used to own Ethereum or that, you know, something like that. And they just block him or ignore him. And he's like all, all the shitcoiners get the girls, the, the, the pure maxi always finishes last.

40:50Rod Palmer So he's just, he is the, he just crying out for the Bitcoin only guy who just only uses peer to peer, only uses Linux, does everything right, still can't get a girlfriend. And you just don't wanna be the guy who is keeping track of how much more, you know,

41:12Rod Palmer sovereign he is at ease in Bitcoin than his girlfriend. Like, his girlfriend, like, the girl doesn't wanna constantly be made to feel stupid because she doesn't understand Bitcoin as good as you. And that's what Pleasure tries to do even to the girls that he meets on, you know, Tinder.

41:27Tatum Turnip Yep. I mean,

41:31Rod Palmer you gotta filter the noise from the signal. And we all pay we all buy paper Bitcoin sometimes. It's fine. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's awesome.

41:40Tatum Turnip Yeah. I I and, also, if I leave it on an exchange, that's insured. If it's in cold storage, it's not.

41:47Rod Palmer It doesn't make me a bad person. It doesn't yeah. It doesn't mean that you can judge me, predator.

41:53Tatum Turnip Exactly.

41:55Richard Greaser Well, he can judge all he wants. He just doesn't have a valid opinion. And I think we should hold the the people accountable that like his tweets. We need to we need to figure out who's liking his tweets, and we need to hold them accountable in the same way that he holds the shitcoiners accountable.

42:13Tatum Turnip Yeah. But we shouldn't we shouldn't make likes public again, though, in case that was, an option on the table for not for me, but for some other people.

42:25Rod Palmer Do you are you more generous with the thirst traps in in posts of hot girls that you like now that nobody else can see it? No. What? No. That's

42:38Tatum Turnip Five. Fucking that's so why I didn't even know that you couldn't see it anymore. Why would that's creepy. Right.

42:47Rod Palmer Right. I don't know.

42:49Richard Greaser Shit. Anyway

42:52Rod Palmer You you you evaded the question last time about which which hot Bitcoin influencer chick would she pick to be your girlfriend? And if like, you know, if it was like The Bachelor, it was you want to win your heart. Oh, we should have You can have you would be perfect. You can be the perfect first bachelor, like Bitcoin, like, Orangeville

43:13Rod Palmer Bitcoin, Twitter, Bachelor. Yeah. And then at the if you go to Outlook, you get Bitcoin Beach. That we're You could give a pupusa. You give a pupusa to the girl that you wanna keep, or you just like, you fill out, you, everybody scans their, the lighting wallet and the person who doesn't get the sats, that needs have been voted off. But you could do that. And you can add the, you could win when this with Max Keiser lives on Bitcoin Beach still. So you Mac, you would go hang out at Max Keiser's villa. He owned me.

43:44Tatum Turnip I don't know why. You offended him? I don't think so. I've typically been a Max Shill.

43:52Rod Palmer Did you hear everything right? Max? Me. Asked

43:56Richard Greaser me. Camera one time.

43:60Tatum Turnip Yeah. My mom also thinks that Stacy hates me because of our episode. It still could be possible. I don't know. Also interviewed Stacy? Yeah. I had Max and Stacy on.

44:12Rod Palmer Oh, of course. Of course. I don't know how he missed those with the other what I thought was probably pretty close to exhaustive list.

44:19Tatum Turnip I forgot about that too.

44:22Rod Palmer So, do you how would do you know many people who their mom thinks or just has any opinion whether Max and Stacy Hey Bear hate hate you hate them or not? Like my mom would if I told, you know, my my mom doesn't know who they are. How many people that you're like, oh, my son and Max Kiser are beefing right now? How on Bitcoin podcasts?

44:45Tatum Turnip Yeah. I think that's a pretty unique, situation for me, but, my mom watches all of my episodes, so I have to keep it clean. But I guarantee you she's not gonna fucking watch this episode. But she did watch the one with Max and Stacy, and she said that Stacy was very rude. I thought Stacy was lovely.

45:08Rod Palmer I think that's just Your mom thought Stacy was rude to you. She just you just don't think that your mom does your mom live in the South Mississippi? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She just she is doesn't she doesn't. Other woman. Yeah.

45:19Tatum Turnip Protect her baby, everything, but I told her I was like, hey. Rest assured She does it why one of those orange little vixens

45:26Rod Palmer talking to her sweet, handsome Tatum like that. Right? Exactly. I get it. Who doesn't get it?

45:34Richard Greaser Yeah. I'm pretty sure Stacy actually hates those.

45:38Tatum Turnip Probably. If we're being hey. What how big is y'all's block list now that you know of?

45:46Richard Greaser Well, I I don't know if you want to know off the top of my head, but Matt Matthew Crowder led a campaign. Before he before he led the let's run run knots campaign, he he led the let's block the bugle campaign.

46:01Rod Palmer It was pretty That was We're lucky we're lucky the not staying distracted him. Yeah. The we're lucky the not staying distracted him because we were we were in trouble.

46:10Tatum Turnip I thought that that whole thing was really, unexpected, I guess. I thought he that he would enjoy credential journalism a little more than he did.

46:23Richard Greaser Why?

46:24Tatum Turnip I don't know. It just seems it's the vibe that gives off, but undoubtedly, he doesn't like it. Do has has Breedlove blocked y'all?

46:34Rod Palmer Oh, yeah. Breedlove Breedlove blocked us a long time ago. Well, he definitely blocked me, and I I've checked. I've tried to tag him and things. Maybe it I just don't remember what she can't. They blocked us or had us unblocked. Yeah. Yeah. We're blocked by Reelo.

46:51Richard Greaser Yeah. He probably didn't like that, Laren was getting into my DMs at one point. Oh,

46:58Rod Palmer we were hitting on her.

47:00Richard Greaser I I wasn't hitting on her. She she was the one that initiated the DM conversation.

47:06Tatum Turnip Because you're a Bitcoin podcaster. Full circle. Of course. What have we done here today?

47:11Richard Greaser Bitcoin podcast I'm very alpha of this guy to be threatened by his wife being in my DMs and being insecure about it. That that's a very beta move. Don't you think?

47:26Rod Palmer Yeah. Well, Tatum, don't don't talk to anybody, but, like, what kind of people, kind of girls slide into your DMs? Because somebody's coasting around on YouTube with the algorithms, just taking them all over the Bitcoin rabbit hole, and they're like, oh, who's this who's this hot, tall Bitcoin podcaster who's interviewing all the people I've heard of,

47:48Rod Palmer and who then who who comes and slides into your DMs at that point?

47:52Tatum Turnip Well, typically, they're usually Asian, and they usually wanna sell me Asics. And none of them have delivered on any of their promises, and I thought I got a pretty good deal. But aside from that, it's just a bunch of group chats, really, that I just ignore.

48:12Tatum Turnip Maybe you should open my DMs up. That might change things. You know what? I'm a

48:19Rod Palmer Is that is that is that the is that the issue with Compass? It was that, their employees were getting schemed by Hottie Asian girls in their DMs.

48:28Tatum Turnip Refused to comment? But, yeah, I did, I did turn my that was actually why I turned my DMs off.

48:40Rod Palmer Because of You turn your DMs off. You got you got burned by too many, ASIC salesman in your GMs. You know, I got, I can't, it's like, like Mars or Bayou Mars. He, he cannot resist a hot fed, you know, somebody who's just in spaces to disrupt and, and, and, and your

49:00Rod Palmer team member of the state. Doesn't matter if she's hot. You were like, hot Asian. I'm listening to your, I'm listening to your sales pitch.

49:10Tatum Turnip I just got the message that, Dick sent me. I don't know if that's on the table either, but I did just open source my DMs. So ladies, come at me.

49:26Rod Palmer I think we were looking for your your ex ex wife or your first ex wife. My future ex wife. I think we need Eclipse and wanted to be your first podcast guest.

49:37Richard Greaser I'm sorry. Go ahead, Richard. We we need more clarification, Tatum, on on what what type of lady qualifies. Like, who are you looking for? You said redhead, single mom?

49:48Tatum Turnip It's really the only two things. I my list is not long. It's, pretty, you know, just my type is women that like me back.

50:01Richard Greaser Yeah. Have have you listened to True Heather's podcast yet? No. Do you know who True Heather is?

50:08Tatum Turnip Is, maybe I do? Who

50:13Richard Greaser is that? A smoking hot blonde up in Canada.

50:16Tatum Turnip Oh, in that case, no. I'm thinking of a different one.

50:19Richard Greaser She she's doing a podcast on Bitcoin to eat it.

50:23Rod Palmer You would be a perfect guest. Yeah. I I need to has been on there.

50:29Tatum Turnip Mhmm. I might need to see how that how that plays out. That might be that might be my secret end right there.

50:36Richard Greaser So before we wrap up the show, who do you think is gonna get a girlfriend first this cycle? You or Sly Goomba?

50:45Tatum Turnip Sly Goomba.

50:47Richard Greaser Why?

50:49Tatum Turnip He's he's not how it usually plays out.

50:52Richard Greaser He's not forklift certified, but he does have a Bitcoin podcast.

50:58Tatum Turnip In that case damn. Those are two very yeah. I don't know. That that might be a good one. That might be that might be a tight race.

51:11Rod Palmer My last question on this is, if you, you know, you're gonna probably meet a lot of Bitcoin orange pilled chicks. So it's like, you're not gonna be the one that, like, gets them into Bitcoin. Could you date a girl that was orange pilled by Tomer?

51:26Tatum Turnip Wait. Like, Tomer?

51:28Rod Palmer Yeah. Just like just like if you're like if you had to go around, it's like my girlfriend was orange pilled by Tomer everywhere you went. Like, is that something you could deal with? It's like if you if your girlfriend was orange pilled by Dennis Porter

51:38Tatum Turnip or Sailor, it'd be like, oh, cool. But but tell me Yeah. No. I would like to keep Tomer away from my girlfriend.

51:45Rod Palmer I think yeah. So you just keep Tomer away from your girlfriend altogether. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

51:52Tatum Turnip But if, look, if he catches her before I have any say in it, you know, sorry, honey. You gotta sit there and just listen.

52:04Rod Palmer What if she was orange billed by Stefan Lovera?

52:07Tatum Turnip Oh, in that case, I'm just gonna blow my brains out. Love you, Stefan.

52:16Richard Greaser Well, the way we end, every episode is, we get we read our fountain boost from the week prior, with our guests. But before we do that, I've got two questions for you, Tatum. Did you listen to our last episode of Behind the Podcast?

52:34Tatum Turnip No.

52:37Richard Greaser It was a really good one. It was with heavily armed clown. Okay. We we talked a lot about communism and and Nazism. The episode title was clowns against Nazis. It was pretty epic.

52:53Tatum Turnip That's, two And he does a podcast with k. That that's a good decent chunk of my 40 HPW.

53:01Rod Palmer Yeah. He podcasts with, JW Weatherman. So they have some cool conversations.

53:09Tatum Turnip Sweet. I'll have to check it out. I'm not going to.

53:13Richard Greaser The second question is, are you Jewish?

53:17Tatum Turnip No. I have been asked that several times for some reason.

53:22Rod Palmer I actually Probably all your guests. You know?

53:25Tatum Turnip In New York, I was just walking to Pub Key, and this guy was like, hey. Are you Jewish? And I said yes and just kept walking. I don't know why I said yes.

53:33Rod Palmer But Were you wearing your both their vest at the time? I would hope so. No. I wasn't. I was vulnerable.

53:40Richard Greaser Did do you think that was unethical? Like, that was a bit of stolen valor?

53:47Tatum Turnip Maybe. It it was kind of heat of the moment, but, you know,

53:53Rod Palmer if it's gonna get the attention, maybe I am. You know? It's not like you were wearing it's not like you were wearing the cap or, like, the No. It would no. Like you were in the uniform.

54:04Richard Greaser Yeah. Uniform. Kinda nervous going to Vegas now that the Jewish Bitcoiners are gonna beat you up for stolen valor.

54:11Tatum Turnip Well, shit.

54:14Rod Palmer Yeah. You're right, actually. Sorry, Bitcoin Jews. Yeah. Just apologize. It's what I would do.

54:20Tatum Turnip I would like to apologize to the Bitcoin Jewish community because I said that I was Jewish. Thank you. I will be stepping away for, a few weeks.

54:35Richard Greaser Was that good? No. No. You should you should end up with if any of you want me to come on your podcast to apologize, I'm willing to.

54:45Tatum Turnip Yeah. I'm only apologizing if I get a guest appearance in return.

54:50Richard Greaser I'm I'm willing I'm willing to take this apology on an apology tour. So have me on your podcast, and I'll apologize. Yeah. Start the negotiation

54:58Rod Palmer off by by you know, don't just just give away everything. Yeah. Yeah. Look. I don't respect that.

55:04Tatum Turnip Vegas Vegas is where I start my apology tour. Okay? And what does that mean fully? No one's gonna know until it happens. Alright? But put it on your calendar. Call next week. Is it an is it

55:18Rod Palmer an apology tour, or is it a tour of things you're gonna have to apologize for later?

55:23Tatum Turnip Maybe it's that. Who knows? But probably that if we're being completely honest. That I had I had to go on an apology tour after the last Bitcoin conference in Vegas, so I'm expecting to do that again this week.

55:38Richard Greaser Great. It it's gonna be exciting. I can't wait to hang out with you. We're gonna be hanging out with you at, or I'm gonna be hanging out with you at Las Vegas.

55:45Tatum Turnip Hell, I do. I do. Debut debut set, 10:00, Wednesday. Super excited for that. Just got done with a practice sesh. It's gonna be fun.

55:55Richard Greaser Is it really your debut? You've never you've never DJed in film?

55:59Tatum Turnip Not not like a in a at a party or a club. Like, I've DJed frat parties, and, I used to do sets on ZapStream, but never in, like, a club setting. So So it's gonna be a shit show.

56:15Richard Greaser What what are some tracks that you're excited to to play?

56:20Tatum Turnip I got some I got, you know, all the favorite white boy stuff, Dom Dolla, John Summit. You know?

56:28Richard Greaser Levels by Vici? Oh, yeah.

56:31Tatum Turnip Levels by Vici at least 10 times.

56:34Richard Greaser Hell, yeah.

56:35Tatum Turnip Rest in peace to a legend.

56:37Richard Greaser Are you did you make any remixes of it, or you you just, you're just gonna go straight?

56:44Tatum Turnip I, I have some remixes that I've worked on myself, but for levels, I'm only gonna play the original mix. Not even the extended, just the regular edit.

56:56Rod Palmer Fair enough. So do you think do you see yourself as, like, you could be, like, a like, the Diplo of Bitcoin podcasters?

57:04Tatum Turnip You know? You know, he was he was born in Mississippi. He just doesn't claim it because it's Mississippi.

57:10Rod Palmer So you've got a list. Yeah?

57:12Tatum Turnip Mhmm. Yeah. No. I mean, look. I might be the diplo. I might be the domedala. I might be the odd mob. Shit. I might be the tiesto of Bitcoin podcasters. We'll just have to see.

57:27Rod Palmer We have to play the pizza.

57:30Tatum Turnip Mhmm. Ebisa.

57:34Richard Greaser Totally. Well, we only had one boost on the episode last week, which is, we had some boost, just not publicly. We had some people streaming us some stats. I I can't see the amount, but 300 stats from BCC onboard. Thumbs up. Thumbs up. Salute lightning emoji.

57:54Tatum Turnip Honestly, top tier emoji ad. Just wanna put that out there, the salute. It's one of my most used.

58:03Richard Greaser I don't I don't really know how to use emojis. I don't know if you could do it on a typewriter.

58:10Tatum Turnip I think you have to get a special belt with the custom keys, but they're pretty expensive, though.

58:17Richard Greaser I have to look into that. I'll I'll have my wife look online, see if she can buy one. Yeah. Well, you got any closing remarks before we wrap this one up, Tatum?

58:29Tatum Turnip Not really. Just, follow me. I like attention. It'd be really great if you gave me some, and subscribe on YouTube.

58:41Richard Greaser And ladies, if you have a daughter that's an eligible bachelorette

58:48Tatum Turnip If you have a daughter and you are an eligible bachelorette. You know?

58:54Richard Greaser Yeah. Slide into Tatum's DMs. They're open. Do you prefer you prefer Nostr or Twitter for for that type of DM? Twitter. The the UX, like we talked about, is just

59:04Tatum Turnip abysmal.

59:06Richard Greaser But but doesn't the bad UX of Nostra kinda weed out

59:11Tatum Turnip the ones you don't want? Sometimes it gets to the point where it's it's about to weed me out. So I stay in those DMs. So it's a it gets it gets tiring amid the trenches.

59:25Richard Greaser What what are Sarah j messages you or Ainsley Costello?

59:32Tatum Turnip I I I What? I would I would block them and not know what to do.

59:39Rod Palmer What what would you do if, Jessica, the playboy, Bitcoin chick, what if she wanted to come on your podcast and maybe hang out later? Would she hang out her I forgot about her. I I would just An older not know what else. Yeah. A middle aged a middle aged Playboy model. Would you date a middle aged orange build Playboy model?

1:00:03Tatum Turnip Absolutely. 100%.

1:00:06Richard Greaser Well, this is what I would say, my last thing before in the stream is, you know, one of the best ways to start out a first date is to invite a woman on your Bitcoin podcast.

1:00:18Tatum Turnip Absolutely. I think that's actually sometimes a good segue. It can lead into like, maybe it's a good icebreaker where you're like, I don't wanna talk to her, but I can ask her on a business, you know, business expense. Hey. You wanna come on the podcast?

1:00:37Richard Greaser Totally.

1:00:38Tatum Turnip Yep.

1:00:40Richard Greaser Well, Tatum, really appreciate you coming on the podcast, and I I hope you shave your mustache before Vegas because that'll that'll raise your odds.

1:00:52Tatum Turnip Shit. I'm gonna have to do this in Vegas, I think. Bitcoin out or 11.

1:00:58Richard Greaser You're gonna you're gonna have to shave your mustache on the Toonster stream.

1:01:04Tatum Turnip I'm just gonna be mixing actively shaving my mustache doing a transition. Just like

1:01:11Richard Greaser And and the one girl that that that runs on stage and starts taking all your mustache hairs and and putting them in a scrapbook, the you know, she's the keeper.

1:01:22Tatum Turnip Absolutely. Can't wait to find her.

1:01:28Richard Greaser Well, thank you everybody for listening to this edition of behind the podcast with Tatum Turnip, and we'll catch you on the next one.