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You're about to enter a world where individuals have self respect and therefore do not comply with a government that does not comply itself.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-9" data-t="9">For some people, the truth is offensive.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-11" data-t="11">Listener discretion is advised.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-13" data-t="13">Some of the ideas presented on this show will be controversial,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-16" data-t="16">but are presented by vetted journalists with the proper press credentials, and therefore should be taken seriously.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-23" data-t="23">If you are a compliant person like BitPayne,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-25">0:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-25" data-t="25">stop listening now in order to protect your fragile sensibilities.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-30">0:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-30" data-t="30">Noncompliance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-31" data-t="31">and things like the beef initiative</span> <span class="cue" id="t-34" data-t="34">are a grave</span> <span class="cue" id="t-35" data-t="35">threat to my ability</span> <span class="cue" id="t-38" data-t="38">to buy up all the farmland</span> <span class="cue" id="t-40" data-t="40">in America</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-41">0:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-41" data-t="41">and convince the population to only eat bugs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-44" data-t="44">We need to stop these guys and make them comply.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-49">0:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-49" data-t="49">Bitcoin is about not trusting and relentlessly seeking to verify information</span> <span class="cue" id="t-54" data-t="54">unless a PodConf approved speaker says something.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-57" data-t="57">This goes against the ethos of journalism, which is entirely about trusting vetted individuals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-63" data-t="63">who selflessly put themselves out there to inform the public and would never do this work for monetary gain.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-69" data-t="69">Journalism is about serving the public good. And unfortunately,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-73" data-t="73">PodCon has hijacked that mission, misleading thousands of Bitcoiners.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-77">1:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-77" data-t="77">We are on a crusade to change that and restore the institution of journalism.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-82" data-t="82">Credentials matter now more than ever in the age of disinformation.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-85" data-t="85">That is why during a times of struggle, it is more important than ever to let the professionals and experts tell you what to think.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-92" data-t="92">Life is too damn hard to do the thinking yourself.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-96">1:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-96" data-t="96">You can make America great again by reading the bugle.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-99" data-t="99">Take back your mind by outsourcing the thinking to them instead of the spooks.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-106">1:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-106" data-t="106">And now, a word from our sponsors.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-111">1:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">PodConf Ad</b> <span class="cue" id="t-111" data-t="111">PodConf is ensuring a world where number go up is the single most important priority.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-117" data-t="117">In order to do this, individuals need to comply by using Sailor's new ID verification system called Orange Protocol.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-126" data-t="126">Users of Bitcoin need to go through a strict KYC process on the protocol level to ensure that Bitcoin reaches its maximum dollar price.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-135" data-t="135">To support the work PodConf is doing, please visit our website where you can buy t shirts and other swag</span> <span class="cue" id="t-141" data-t="141">as well as read some of the most interesting research on how compliance will support NGU.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-149">2:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-149" data-t="149">On this week's episode of the Bugle Weekly, hard hitting news journalist Richard Grieser</span> <span class="cue" id="t-154" data-t="154">interviews Max and John from the Ungovernable Misfits podcast, which is currently dominating the fountain charts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-160" data-t="160">While not being credentialed journalists, they are experts in not complying with the rules.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-165" data-t="165">During the episode, Richard experienced technical difficulties as a result from being unable to afford six show producers like what Bitcoin did. If you want to see the Bugle Weekly afford six producers, including attractive women producers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-179" data-t="179">please consider donating to us. Enjoy the show. Alright. Welcome to the</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-184">3:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-184" data-t="184">the Bugle Weekly podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-186" data-t="186">Today, we're mixing it up. We have two</span> <span class="cue" id="t-190" data-t="190">noncompliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-191" data-t="191">individuals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-192" data-t="192">joining us to discuss how to be ungovernable.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-197" data-t="197">Welcome to the show, John and Max.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-201">3:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-201" data-t="201">Thanks for having us, Dick.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-203">3:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-203" data-t="203">Yeah. Thank you. So have have you guys ever been interviewed by a real journalist before?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-209">3:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-209" data-t="209">Not one that is accredited. No. Not of this caliber.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-213">3:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-213" data-t="213">We aspire to, but this is the first. So, yeah, I've I've I've been really excited</span> <span class="cue" id="t-218" data-t="218">because I think I'm giving people I'm gonna be giving people an opportunity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-223" data-t="223">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-224" data-t="224">to get outside of the PodConf ecosystem,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-227" data-t="227">to interact with real journalists, and and they're gonna understand why credentials matter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-232" data-t="232">more because of my superior reporting</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-235">3:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-235" data-t="235">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-237" data-t="237">and better information</span> <span class="cue" id="t-238" data-t="238">gathering than other people. Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-241" data-t="241">I think that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-242" data-t="242">you know, we could really improve long form podcasting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-246" data-t="246">and and get rid of these fake,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-249">4:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-249" data-t="249">media personalities like Joe Rogan and Lex Fridman that are not credentialed journalists.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-254" data-t="254">I don't know what you guys think about that. Dick, have you ever posted up your credentials?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-259">4:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-259" data-t="259">Are they peer reviewed?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-261" data-t="261">How can we verify this?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-263">4:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-263" data-t="263">Well, I actually I actually keep my credentials,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-267" data-t="267">private for OPSEC reasons given the the nature of the work that I'm doing.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-273">4:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-273" data-t="273">Understandable.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-275" data-t="275">As far as I know as well, you can only actually review credentials if you are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-280" data-t="280">if you have credentials yourself.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-282" data-t="282">So we wouldn't be able to do it even if you were to release them. That's a good point. I suppose that was wrong of me to ask, but it was.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-291" data-t="291">I'm trying to care.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-293">4:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-293" data-t="293">If you reach out to some some real journalists like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-296" data-t="296">Mark Goodwin or Lola Leads,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-299" data-t="299">they'll they'll back me up on my credentials.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-302" data-t="302">They know. But I'm I'm sure, you know, for for fake journalists like Peter McCormack that are really just content creators,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-309">5:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-309" data-t="309">they'll they'll try to criticize. What could somebody like me do to become a credentialed journalist?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-314" data-t="314">What's the path forward? He's gone. Nothing.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-317">5:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-317" data-t="317">Disgusted by your question there, mate. Like, he ran from us. Well, while we have the stage,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-324" data-t="324">fuck compliance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-326" data-t="326">There's a few tips that me and John have put together to help you be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-330" data-t="330">less compliant.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-331" data-t="331">Chew real some off, John. Tip number one.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-334">5:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-334" data-t="334">Don't give a fuck.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-337">5:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-337" data-t="337">Oh, I like that one.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-339" data-t="339">I think it's also important to incorporate certain ungovernable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-343" data-t="343">ways into your daily routine. So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-346" data-t="346">you know, what I like to do when I wake up in the morning is say to my family, I love you, and say to the state, go fuck yourself. That's an easy one.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-355">5:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-355" data-t="355">Mhmm. It's a nice mantra to say while</span> <span class="cue" id="t-359" data-t="359">you're alone</span> <span class="cue" id="t-360" data-t="360">in the bathroom</span> <span class="cue" id="t-361" data-t="361">taking a shit. It's calm. One of the best. It's soothing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-366" data-t="366">Mhmm. Go fuck yourself. Go</span> <span class="cue" id="t-368" data-t="368">fuck yourself.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-370">6:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-370" data-t="370">Yeah. Just sweetly like that as well. Oh, he's back.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-374">6:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-374" data-t="374">I hope he's not recording this. He may be a credentialed journalist, but he's not a credentialed podcaster.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-381">6:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-381" data-t="381">Absolutely not. The technical skills are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-384" data-t="384">they leave a lot to be desired.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-386">6:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-386" data-t="386">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-388" data-t="388">We would never let something like this happen on Ungovernable Misfits.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-391">6:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-391" data-t="391">Absolutely</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-392">6:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-392" data-t="392">not. Professional. What other tips have we got? It helps to cut the tether</span> <span class="cue" id="t-398" data-t="398">that the state has upon you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-400" data-t="400">Mhmm. Growing your own food. Growing your own sats. Growing your own tribe or community.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-406">6:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-406" data-t="406">Mhmm. Feed those sats and those miners with water.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-409" data-t="409">Not water. Electricity.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-412" data-t="412">Vegetables with water.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-414" data-t="414">Vegetables with water,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-416" data-t="416">children with water, and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-418" data-t="418">food, minors with electricity.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-420">6:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-420" data-t="420">You get some tasty, tasty sats. How about a circular plebconomy?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-425" data-t="425">Oh, yeah. I like that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-427" data-t="427">Old Greece would hate that, wouldn't they? They</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-431">7:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-431" data-t="431">would. Free of state oversight and control.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-435">7:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-435" data-t="435">He fucking loves it. Mhmm. Keeps joining the chat and then leaving again. That's what my NSA agent does. Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-443" data-t="443">fuck compliance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-444" data-t="444">That's all we can say.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-446" data-t="446">Don't give up.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-448" data-t="448">Just keep fighting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-449" data-t="449">The state hates you. They hate everything about you. They hate your family.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-453">7:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-453" data-t="453">And even the thought of you having more children, Imagine how disgusted they'd be when you just think about that. I'd like to bring some more life into the world. Mm-mm. More useless eaters.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-464">7:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-464" data-t="464">Breeders.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-466" data-t="466">Taking up our precious natural resources that are reserved only for the elite. They hate pain and payments.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-473">7:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-473" data-t="473">Thank you for yours this morning, by the way, mate.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-476">7:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-476" data-t="476">Oh, you're quite welcome. What what is it that I paid you for? Just my time.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-481">8:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-481" data-t="481">My love.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-483" data-t="483">Please record That's also illegal.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-485">8:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-485" data-t="485">Here's a pain in painnet. I I pay for your love. That makes you a prostitute,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-490" data-t="490">sir, which is certainly illegal, isn't it? But we don't comply. So do you think this is a a false flag, what's happening here to Richard Greaser? Could be. Like, I see now he's gonna spin this angle. Like, oh, you know, the the feds were after me. They don't want my message to get out. They realized that we are rebelling against PodConf.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-510">8:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-510" data-t="510">Oh, no. Oh, no. They're trying to silence my voice. That's probably how we'll spin it. Ori's just thought, I'll just dump these two with nothing to say, no questions,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-519" data-t="519">being very professional, and just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-522" data-t="522">let themselves tie each other into knots, cause a lot of problems, and then attack them.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-528">8:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-528" data-t="528">It's not a bad idea. We can even tie each other in knots to the point where we can't send each other pain in payments.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-535">8:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-535" data-t="535">Oh,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-536" data-t="536">I like it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-539" data-t="539">Alright. I think that's gonna happen.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-541">9:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-541" data-t="541">You are back.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-543">9:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-543" data-t="543">We took over. Wow.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-545">9:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-545" data-t="545">Well, I'm sure it was good. I yeah. I don't know. I mean, when you're when you're trying to record a podcast on a typewriter, things get pretty difficult.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-555">9:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-555" data-t="555">I can imagine.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-557">9:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-557" data-t="557">Do you think this was a state attack? What was? Me me not knowing how to use my typewriter?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-563">9:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-563" data-t="563">What just happened here</span> <span class="cue" id="t-565" data-t="565">to to the to the Bitcoin bugle?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-568">9:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-568" data-t="568">I I think it's important to to be adversarial minded</span> <span class="cue" id="t-572" data-t="572">and to know that there is a possibility</span> <span class="cue" id="t-575" data-t="575">for state level attacks because what we're dealing with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-578" data-t="578">is we're dealing with noncompliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-581" data-t="581">organizations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-583" data-t="583">who are seeking not to comply in any way that they possibly can.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-588">9:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-588" data-t="588">And Some concern. That</span> <span class="cue" id="t-589" data-t="589">that can hurt us.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-592" data-t="592">They can direct their noncompliance toward us,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-596" data-t="596">which is, you know, why it's really important to shift</span> <span class="cue" id="t-600" data-t="600">and and make sure that they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-603" data-t="603">like, we need to make the government compliant.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-607">10:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-607" data-t="607">That's step one. This part of being ungovernable</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-610">10:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-610" data-t="610">It's forcing the state to be governable or governed. What if I just tell them to fuck off?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-617">10:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-617" data-t="617">That's nice.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-618" data-t="618">We'll fuck themselves.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-620">10:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-620" data-t="620">Mhmm.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-621" data-t="621">Stick it where the sun don't shine. I I think that's pretty,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-626">10:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-626" data-t="626">that's a pretty good strategy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-629" data-t="629">in certain circumstances</span> <span class="cue" id="t-631" data-t="631">where,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-634" data-t="634">you know, like, if they're not compliant. So, like, you know, a good example is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-638" data-t="638">you know, Rod Palmer talked about how it shouldn't be illegal to launder money for the CIA in a democracy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-646" data-t="646">and how</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-647">10:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-647" data-t="647">the state going after samurai for laundering money for the CIA</span> <span class="cue" id="t-652" data-t="652">is just absolutely absurd. And so, like, that's a good, good time to, you know, to tell the state to fuck off because they're not being compliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-660" data-t="660">in the way that they're pursuing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-663" data-t="663">these arrests of these individuals that were, you know, being compliant.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-668">11:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-668" data-t="668">But I saw on the Clark Moody dashboard</span> <span class="cue" id="t-671" data-t="671">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-672" data-t="672">the unspent whirlpool capacity of the CIA</span> <span class="cue" id="t-676" data-t="676">was about 15,000,000 Bitcoin. $15,000,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-679" data-t="679">worth of Bitcoin</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-681">11:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-681" data-t="681">that was just added to Clark Moody's dashboard. So, you know, part like, Seth for for privacy was advocating for this is that we need to force the the CIA to KYC</span> <span class="cue" id="t-692" data-t="692">all their cryptocurrency</span> <span class="cue" id="t-694" data-t="694">buys, including Monero.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-696" data-t="696">We need to KYC</span> <span class="cue" id="t-697" data-t="697">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-698" data-t="698">the cryptocurrencies that they're mining on the NSA,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-702">11:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-702" data-t="702">data center computers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-704" data-t="704">So that way that we can have transparency</span> <span class="cue" id="t-706" data-t="706">on these things so we can actually see</span> <span class="cue" id="t-709" data-t="709">the CIA's Bitcoin in Whirlpool.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-711" data-t="711">I think that's a that's a great that Clark Moody is working on a tool like that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-716" data-t="716">But, like, if we're able to,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-718">11:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-718" data-t="718">you know, kind of follow the money as far as what these intelligence agencies are doing when they're laundering it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-725" data-t="725">we we could force them to be compliant. And then, you know, if the government's compliant, then we can comply</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-731">12:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-731" data-t="731">with the government. The government forces compliance upon us at the end of a gun.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-737" data-t="737">So how do we enforce compliance</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-739">12:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-739" data-t="739">on the government? I I think the big one, it's it's civil</span> <span class="cue" id="t-743" data-t="743">disobedience. Like, we just have to say we're not complying.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-747" data-t="747">We're we're on strike. This is a compliance strike, and we're we're not we're not gonna comply until, you know, either the state changes the rules where they continue</span> <span class="cue" id="t-757" data-t="757">on their current</span> <span class="cue" id="t-759" data-t="759">operations and they're they're compliant with their own laws.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-763" data-t="763">Or,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-765">12:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-765" data-t="765">they stop what they're doing now and just comply with their own laws. E either way,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-770" data-t="770">you know, I'd be happy, but but I can't be happy until,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-774" data-t="774">you know, the state is ultimately the compliant ones.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-777" data-t="777">Because a bunch of noncompliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-779" data-t="779">individuals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-781" data-t="781">trying to go after compliant individuals and accusing them of being noncompliant is just so absurd.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-787">13:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-787" data-t="787">Like, this is not how democracy works.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-790">13:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-790" data-t="790">As ungoverned democracy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-792" data-t="792">work? We have no skin of the game.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-795" data-t="795">Mhmm. This is true. Wait. What do you mean? Meaning that if we ourselves are not compliant,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-801" data-t="801">we cannot</span> <span class="cue" id="t-802" data-t="802">enforce</span> <span class="cue" id="t-804" data-t="804">government noncompliers</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-806">13:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-806" data-t="806">to comply. Nor do we care. They can do what they want,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-810">13:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-810" data-t="810">and we will continue doing what we want. It seems like some dangerous misinformation. So have you guys ever heard of consent of the governed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-818" data-t="818">or or, like, a social contract? Have you have you heard of these terms?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-822" data-t="822">It's something they taught us in journalism school. No. I missed that one, mate. I wasn't aware that journalists even studied</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-829">13:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-829" data-t="829">constitution or the Federalist Papers.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-832">13:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-832" data-t="832">Who went to school?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-834">13:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-834" data-t="834">Well well, typically typically, we don't we don't study the constitution or the Federalist Papers, but but what we do study is how to manufacture</span> <span class="cue" id="t-843" data-t="843">consent</span> <span class="cue" id="t-845" data-t="845">in regards to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-846" data-t="846">believing in the constitution.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-848" data-t="848">And and so, you know, in the right circumstances,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-851" data-t="851">we we also learned how to how to manufacture nonconsent.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-855">14:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-855" data-t="855">Is Ungovernable Misfits</span> <span class="cue" id="t-857" data-t="857">manufactured?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-858">14:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-858" data-t="858">Well, I mean,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-860">14:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-860" data-t="860">everything's manufactured. Who about bananas?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-863" data-t="863">Are they manufactured?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-864">14:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-864" data-t="864">They can be. Yeah. Anyways,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-866" data-t="866">so you guys had</span> <span class="cue" id="t-869" data-t="869">an ad read you wanted to I was approached by PodConf</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-873">14:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-873" data-t="873">and offered</span> <span class="cue" id="t-874" data-t="874">a significant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-876" data-t="876">amount of money</span> <span class="cue" id="t-878" data-t="878">to read this ad copy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-881" data-t="881">I intend to use the significant amount of money that PodConf has has paid Max and I on to continue our message of dismantling the state. I'm gonna use their tools of propaganda</span> <span class="cue" id="t-893" data-t="893">against them. This episode of Bitcoin Bugle</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-895">14:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-895" data-t="895">is brought to you by PodConf. PSA, Ungoverable Misfits, is not PodConf approved.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-901" data-t="901">We encourage you to tune into PodConf approved podcast like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-905" data-t="905">What the Bitcoins Do,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-907" data-t="907">Why We Are Bullshit,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-909" data-t="909">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-910" data-t="910">the Swan News Happy Hour.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-912">15:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-912" data-t="912">We at PodConf boast a growing list of PodConf approved and trained journalists like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-917" data-t="917">Natalie Brunelles,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-919" data-t="919">Stefan Labrera,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-921" data-t="921">and Pete the Rizzler, who are guaranteed to provide accurate peer reviewed and compliant Bitcoin content</span> <span class="cue" id="t-928" data-t="928">free of disinformation.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-931" data-t="931">Continued listening to non PodConf approved pods like Uncoverable Misfits may cause the following side effects, restlessness,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-937">15:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-937" data-t="937">curiosity,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-939" data-t="939">skepticism,</span> <span class="cue" data-t="939">autonomy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-941" data-t="941">sovereignty, defiance, kinship, competence,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-944" data-t="944">proficiency,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-945" data-t="945">enlightenment,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-946">15:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-946" data-t="946">wisdom,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-947" data-t="947">self determination,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-949" data-t="949">and overall nonconformity.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-951" data-t="951">At PodConf,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-953" data-t="953">we only want the best for you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-955" data-t="955">and the children</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-957">15:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-957" data-t="957">as we believe</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-958">15:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-958" data-t="958">they are the future. That was a pretty good ad read, but fuck PodConf. Those guys are assholes.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-965">16:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-965" data-t="965">Yeah. But I'll take their money.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-967">16:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-967" data-t="967">Absolutely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-969" data-t="969">There's just so much of it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-972">16:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-972" data-t="972">So when when you guys are deciding on whether or not to take Podkomp money,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-979" data-t="979">Like, what what goes in what goes into the consideration</span> <span class="cue" id="t-981" data-t="981">there? Because</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-983">16:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-983" data-t="983">How many zeroes are after the number?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-986">16:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-986" data-t="986">Bingo.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-988">16:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-988" data-t="988">That's the only consideration, isn't it, John?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-991">16:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-991" data-t="991">Absolutely. Well, what's what what's the, like, figure that you guys are willing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-996" data-t="996">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-997" data-t="997">kind of sell out to on your principles?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1001">16:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1001" data-t="1001">We lost you again there, Dick.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1003">16:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1003" data-t="1003">I've I've been asking people this. Am I back? Yes. The figure that we would sell out</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1009">16:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1009" data-t="1009">is $36.25</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1012">16:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1012" data-t="1012">34. Pretty good amount of money. Those are measurements of hell.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1016">16:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1016" data-t="1016">Yeah. Well, measurements of what? Sex appeal. Ex a bit, mate. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1022" data-t="1022">Thanks, pal. Interesting. Did they teach you about sex appeal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1026" data-t="1026">at school?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1027">17:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1027" data-t="1027">Is it something you can learn? Yeah. I mean, it it's definitely something that you can exploit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1032" data-t="1032">It's something that I wanted to exploit with the Bugle,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1036" data-t="1036">for some time. Like, I think, you know, Ginger,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1039" data-t="1039">she's got some sex appeal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1041" data-t="1041">I don't know if you follow her right or Ginger B. Stiffen.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1045" data-t="1045">But she she definitely has some bangers in getting her</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1049">17:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1049" data-t="1049">out there in the open, you know, to, you know, attract</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1054" data-t="1054">attract people. It's a it's a good marketing and and journalistic tool, for sure. But I I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1060" data-t="1060">what would take this show to the next level is if we had a female</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1066" data-t="1066">producer with a lot of sex appeal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1068" data-t="1068">kinda assisting in the process.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1071" data-t="1071">But</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1072">17:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1072" data-t="1072">the problem</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1073" data-t="1073">is is, you know, we're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1076" data-t="1076">we're getting into the bull market,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1078" data-t="1078">and, like, the the market for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1082" data-t="1082">attractive women</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1083" data-t="1083">that are interested in Bitcoin</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1086">18:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1086" data-t="1086">is gonna dry up because I expect Swan to buy them all.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1092" data-t="1092">And so High demand, low supply, isn't there? Yeah. So, like, this is this is why, you know, the value for value ecosystem is really important. So, like, for people listening to the podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1104" data-t="1104">that value the Bugle's content,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1107" data-t="1107">plea please consider donating so that we can we can hire an attractive woman</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1112" data-t="1112">woman to work with us, to to take us to, you know, the next level of journalism.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1118">18:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1118" data-t="1118">I think it's really important for the industry. Dick, may I make an appeal to the listeners? If you're using podcasting two point o</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1126" data-t="1126">and want to boost this show,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1129" data-t="1129">don't do it. Do it through something that you can claim your taxes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1133" data-t="1133">Proper donation.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1135" data-t="1135">Mhmm. This is a legitimate organization.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1138" data-t="1138">Don't stop what you're doing right now. Don't look at your phone. Don't press that boost button.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1143">19:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1143" data-t="1143">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1145" data-t="1145">You can do that with ours because we're noncompliant, but I know you guys wouldn't want that. So I assume you want, like, a check or something like that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1155">19:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1155" data-t="1155">Let's take a break to get a brief economics lesson from renowned Fiat economist Stephanie Kelton.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1162">19:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Stephanie Kelton</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1162" data-t="1162">Hey, guys.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1163" data-t="1163">Things are looking phenomenal in the economy today,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1166" data-t="1166">thanks to the government's ability to print money.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1170" data-t="1170">The Biden administration is working harder than ever to solve the issues of climate change and systemic racism</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1177" data-t="1177">by absolutely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1179" data-t="1179">flooding the system with cash.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1181">19:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Stephanie Kelton</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1181" data-t="1181">Can you imagine how unstable the world would be if a hard currency was used?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1186" data-t="1186">No.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1187" data-t="1187">Instead, the US government</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1189" data-t="1189">has the ability to flood unprecedented amounts of liquidity to Ukraine and Israel.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1192" data-t="1192">Unprecedented amounts of liquidity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1194" data-t="1194">to Ukraine and Israel to ensure world safety and stability.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1199">19:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Stephanie Kelton</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1199" data-t="1199">The debt isn't the reason we can't have nice things.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1202" data-t="1202">Our broken thinking is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1204" data-t="1204">To fix our broken thinking,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1206" data-t="1206">we need to overcome more than just an aversion to big numbers with the word debt attached.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1213" data-t="1213">We need to beat back every destructive</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1216" data-t="1216">myth that hobbles our thinking.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1218">20:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Stephanie Kelton</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1218" data-t="1218">We need to listen to credentialed economists</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1221" data-t="1221">like me</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1222" data-t="1222">and not anonymous accounts on Bitcoin Twitter. That's all for this week. We will see you next week for another Macro Minute.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1232">20:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1232" data-t="1232">Don't be a common sense denier.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1234" data-t="1234">Get your facts straight by listening to Stephanie.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1237" data-t="1237">She is a credentialed economist and expert, and you should trust the science.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1241" data-t="1241">Without modern monetary theory, we couldn't have nice things. There are trade offs with everything.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1247" data-t="1247">While printing money has taken the dollar menu at McDonald's away from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1251" data-t="1251">us, it has given us stable economic conditions,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1253">20:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1253" data-t="1253">as well as a massive government to keep us safe.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1257" data-t="1257">Don't question.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1258" data-t="1258">Just listen to the experts.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1264">21:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1264" data-t="1264">Well, we were we were trying to figure out how to KYC our listeners</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1269" data-t="1269">and then also how to send the boosters ten ninety nines,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1273" data-t="1273">like tax forms.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1276" data-t="1276">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1277" data-t="1277">and then and then all the samurai stuff happened, and we realized how noncompliant the state was. And and now we've, you know, pivoted. We can't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1287" data-t="1287">we, as an organization, we can't morally support, you know, these types of activities until the government complies. So I I would say, you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1296">21:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1296" data-t="1296">if people wanna send us noncompliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1298" data-t="1298">boost, go for it. Like, we'll we'll take</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1301" data-t="1301">it right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1303" data-t="1303">But that that might change in the future.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1305" data-t="1305">We might we might become compliant again</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1308" data-t="1308">depending on the circumstances.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1311">21:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1311" data-t="1311">So currently,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1312" data-t="1312">noncompliant,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1313" data-t="1313">but compliant again when it suits.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1315">21:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1315" data-t="1315">Yeah. I mean, you know, we're we're we're just adjusting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1318" data-t="1318">based on the information we're getting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1321" data-t="1321">We're trying to make the make the correct decisions, and and we do make the correct decisions because we're trained journalists.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1327" data-t="1327">And so we have that that educational</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1331" data-t="1331">foundation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1333" data-t="1333">in order to be able to make the the correct,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1337">22:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1337" data-t="1337">decisions and direct our audience,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1340" data-t="1340">in the correct ways. Because we're we're we do the thinking for our listeners.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1344" data-t="1344">It's like a really important</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1346" data-t="1346">part of the bugle.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1348" data-t="1348">I know I know you guys might, like, have a different perspective on things where you try to, you know, help your listeners think for themselves. But, like, the problem with that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1358" data-t="1358">is is your listeners are really busy with their lives.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1362">22:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1362" data-t="1362">And and most people just don't have the time and energy to go do all that thinking.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1367" data-t="1367">And so that's why it's useful to to to have good journalistic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1373" data-t="1373">agencies like the Bugle to do that thinking for them. That makes sense, mate.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1378" data-t="1378">Thinking is hard. Yeah. I mean, speaking of thinking, so so, Max, can you can you explain to me</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1386" data-t="1386">why in your country</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1387" data-t="1387">like, so is the is the British government as noncompliant</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1392">23:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1392" data-t="1392">as the American government? Yeah. I was speaking to John about this a few times. I would say that we are probably</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1399" data-t="1399">less compliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1400" data-t="1400">than</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1401" data-t="1401">the American government,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1403" data-t="1403">but we've been doing it for a lot longer. So we're much better at hiding it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1409" data-t="1409">So they do a lot more crazy shit, but they don't get caught as much. Yeah. I'd like, I'm in my head right now, so I I</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1417">23:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1417" data-t="1417">I I went I opened my typewriter this morning and and looked at</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1422" data-t="1422">some headlines, and I saw that the British government's looking to do a smoking ban,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1427" data-t="1427">a complete smoking ban,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1429" data-t="1429">not just not just, like, prevent people from smoking at</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1433" data-t="1433">on on places they should be able to smoke, like airplanes and trains and buses. Mhmm. But but they wanna prevent anybody from smoking,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1443" data-t="1443">which, you know, is kind of a crazy concept. Yeah. It doesn't surprise me.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1447">24:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1447" data-t="1447">You can't even smoke in a fucking hospital anymore. It's disgusting. So,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1451">24:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1451" data-t="1451">like, what what do you think the angle is here? Because, you know, smoking is, like, one of those things that helps people think for themselves.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1460" data-t="1460">Nicotine cures</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1461" data-t="1461">COVID.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1462" data-t="1462">You know, there's so many aspects of it that are important. Like, did they just want Well</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1467">24:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1467" data-t="1467">Yeah. I think I think one of the main problems is tobacco has antiaging properties,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1473" data-t="1473">and what they're really wanting to do is fill up the hospitals as much as possible,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1478" data-t="1478">and and have people die quicker.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1481" data-t="1481">So I think that's probably part of the reasoning there. It's like, look. As you said,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1487" data-t="1487">nicotine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1488" data-t="1488">does cure COVID, and tobacco is antiaging.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1492">24:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1492" data-t="1492">So if you think of it that way, the best thing that they could do to make sure that their population is as sick</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1499" data-t="1499">or dead as possible</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1501" data-t="1501">would be a smoking ban. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1504" data-t="1504">I understand it. It's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1506">25:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1506" data-t="1506">it's it's really, like, I I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1509" data-t="1509">if Alex Gladstein</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1511" data-t="1511">does not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1512" data-t="1512">make this a major point for him</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1516" data-t="1516">in HRF, like, I'm really gonna throw a fit. It it's a human rights violation.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1522">25:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1522" data-t="1522">And my understanding is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1525" data-t="1525">tobacco cigarettes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1527" data-t="1527">or, as they say in The UK,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1529" data-t="1529">fags</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1530">25:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1530" data-t="1530">Mhmm.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1531">25:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1531" data-t="1531">Have been banned for certain people, but tobacco laced with adrenochrome</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1536" data-t="1536">is encouraged.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1538">25:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1538" data-t="1538">Oh, absolutely.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1539">25:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1539" data-t="1539">Yeah. Great health benefits.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1541">25:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1541" data-t="1541">Mhmm. Mhmm.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1543">25:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1543" data-t="1543">Again, antiaging properties. But the thing is that what they like to do is have these things less accessible to the pores. You know? So the ninety nine point nine percent of people in The UK who can't afford to turn their lights on because the electricity rates are so fucking ridiculous here, they don't want them to have the adrenochrome.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1563" data-t="1563">It's it's only if you're in the boys'</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1566" data-t="1566">club. And, obviously, there's certain things that you have to do there, and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1570" data-t="1570">it's just not for me.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1572">26:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1572" data-t="1572">Sure. Sure.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1574">26:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1574" data-t="1574">Makes sense.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1575">26:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1575" data-t="1575">So I I think you might enjoy some of these things, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1579" data-t="1579">yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1580">26:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1580" data-t="1580">Not for me, mate. So, like, you know, using using the words,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1586" data-t="1586">fags and cigarettes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1588" data-t="1588">like, wait.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1589" data-t="1589">Like, I I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1591" data-t="1591">I don't speak British,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1593" data-t="1593">very often, but</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1595">26:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1595" data-t="1595">I think it'd be kind of fun to do it. So I I'm kinda wondering if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1600" data-t="1600">if when I'm going on British content</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1605" data-t="1605">or interacting with, you know, Australians</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1608" data-t="1608">like Tip NZ,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1611" data-t="1611">and and other funny talkers like Peter McCormick, if I should just use the word fags,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1616" data-t="1616">you know, to help them understand what I'm talking about a little bit more.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1620">27:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1620" data-t="1620">I think for the people you've just mentioned,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1623" data-t="1623">fags is a a brilliant description.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1626" data-t="1626">I think that's probably the way that you should address. Okay. That's fine.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1630" data-t="1630">Use Resabe wallet.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1632" data-t="1632">Yeah. I think it's a great way. It's a great descriptive word. They're gonna really like it. It's gonna make them feel at ease.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1639" data-t="1639">So it's probably how you should address them.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1642">27:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1642" data-t="1642">You can use things like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1645" data-t="1645">go on.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1646">27:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1646" data-t="1646">So so you're saying</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1649" data-t="1649">the proper way to address British people is to refer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1653" data-t="1653">to refer to them as fags or faggots?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1656" data-t="1656">Like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1657">27:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1657" data-t="1657">like, kinda like Yeah. I wouldn't say faggots.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1660" data-t="1660">Yeah. I wouldn't necessarily say faggots, but I would say, like, fags,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1664" data-t="1664">especially for, like, the more compliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1668" data-t="1668">British Bitcoiners,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1670" data-t="1670">the aforementioned,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1673">27:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1673" data-t="1673">FAG would be perfect. I think they'd feel at home,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1678">27:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1678" data-t="1678">especially if they're abroad. Well, I mean, it it's one of those things that's really important is being able to, you know, as an interviewer, as a journalist, to be able to, you know, put people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1688" data-t="1688">in a comfortable spot.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1691">28:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1691" data-t="1691">At ease. Yeah. Absolutely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1693" data-t="1693">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1694" data-t="1694">I think that would help.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1696">28:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1696" data-t="1696">So so speaking of a fag named, Peter McCormick, he</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1702" data-t="1702">has been shifting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1704" data-t="1704">to be noncompliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1706" data-t="1706">as well. I don't know if you saw his tweet about taxes where where now he sees taxes as theft. Interesting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1714">28:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1714" data-t="1714">Yeah. I mean, I haven't seen that tweet. I'm sure there will be another tweet very soon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1719" data-t="1719">saying the absolute opposite of that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1723" data-t="1723">It's got nothing to do with engagement. He's just thinking these ideas through like he has done for the last seven years or whatever it's been.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1732" data-t="1732">It's very important for him to do that. It's very important for him to take both sides at all times and be able to do as many interviews as possible</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1740" data-t="1740">to cover both sides.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1744" data-t="1744">That's what real journalism is about. And I I think</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1747">29:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1747" data-t="1747">where you've made a mistake here is not understanding that he is a real journalist, and I think you could learn a lot from him. I I don't think there's anything I can learn from him. Like, I I think</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1758">29:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1758" data-t="1758">if I put out a paid</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1760" data-t="1760">course on how to be a Bitcoin journalist, Peter would be one of the first people to take it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1766">29:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1766" data-t="1766">Do you think so?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1768">29:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1768" data-t="1768">Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1769">29:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1769" data-t="1769">What about things like, for example,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1772" data-t="1772">getting people on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1774" data-t="1774">to hear a sob story about why someone's been arrested</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1778" data-t="1778">and now sitting in a jail cell and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1782" data-t="1782">be very sad about that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1784" data-t="1784">And then as soon as you finish that interview</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1787">29:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1787" data-t="1787">and done that sob story</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1790" data-t="1790">and had those listens and got paid for it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1793" data-t="1793">to then go and take on a sponsor</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1796" data-t="1796">who actually pays</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1799" data-t="1799">for the chain analysis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1800" data-t="1800">to put that person in jail.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1803">30:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1803" data-t="1803">What's your thoughts on that? So this person</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1805">30:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1805" data-t="1805">took CIA</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1806" data-t="1806">as a sponsorship.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1808" data-t="1808">Is that what you're saying? Pretty much. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1811">30:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1811" data-t="1811">That's fine.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1812" data-t="1812">That's fine. It's just a good see, this is where I think you can learn. It's like a perfect circle. It's like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1819" data-t="1819">get money</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1821" data-t="1821">to fund chain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1824" data-t="1824">analysis, shill that product that doesn't work,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1827" data-t="1827">then people go to prison,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1830">30:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1830" data-t="1830">then get them on the show and their lawyers on the show to talk about why they're in prison,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1835">30:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1835" data-t="1835">pretend you're sad, and round and round it goes. It's just it's very smart. Yeah. I mean, it's pretty similar to what I think I'm trying to do, and it sounds like you guys are trying to do where you you take the Podkoff money</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1849" data-t="1849">in order to fund the ending of PodConf,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1853" data-t="1853">the resistance towards it. You know what I mean?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1856" data-t="1856">Professionals.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1857">30:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1857" data-t="1857">This is what we're all about.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1859" data-t="1859">Yeah. Professionalism.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1860">30:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1860" data-t="1860">I I do think We learn we learn from the best,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1863" data-t="1863">and that enables you to have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1865" data-t="1865">more producers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1867" data-t="1867">and that enables you to do less work.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1870" data-t="1870">Mhmm. And especially if you can hire</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1873" data-t="1873">beautiful producers,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1875">31:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1875" data-t="1875">perhaps you can go out to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1877" data-t="1877">Pacific</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1878" data-t="1878">Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1879" data-t="1879">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1880" data-t="1880">sift through a number of candidates</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1883" data-t="1883">from Corey Klippenstein's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1884">31:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1884" data-t="1884">harem</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1885" data-t="1885">and choose the one</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1888" data-t="1888">with the biggest belly laugh,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1891" data-t="1891">like a Robin Quivers type belly laugh that laughs at every stupid thing that you say</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1897" data-t="1897">puff and has big giant shaking jugs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1901" data-t="1901">and you take that PodCon</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1903">31:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1903" data-t="1903">money and you hire her</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1905" data-t="1905">as your eighth producer on the show,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1907" data-t="1907">you are guaranteed to put out banging content. Absolutely.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1911">31:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1911" data-t="1911">I think that's the great that's a great idea. I think that like, I updated my guys are,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1918" data-t="1918">fun to show or to reflect. Like, the goal,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1922" data-t="1922">we need to hit a certain target, which I think I set it, like, 10,000,000 Satoshis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1927" data-t="1927">in order to hire six producers like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1931" data-t="1931">Peter has to compete with him. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1934" data-t="1934">I</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1936">32:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1936" data-t="1936">I think I'll have to, like, boost the goal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1939" data-t="1939">of the campaign</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1940" data-t="1940">if if it needs to be attractive women that need to be hired because they they carry a premium</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1946" data-t="1946">for sure.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1948" data-t="1948">Have you sent Corey in a DM? No. But but I I will. I I I know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1954" data-t="1954">he he's probably one of the most effective</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1957">32:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1957" data-t="1957">talent scouts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1960" data-t="1960">in the PodConf</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1962" data-t="1962">ecosystem,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1963" data-t="1963">I would say. Hands down. So he would definitely be somebody worth talking to about this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1970" data-t="1970">Kinda wrapping up and and getting into the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1973" data-t="1973">the final thoughts of the show.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1975">32:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1975" data-t="1975">So what what so you guys your your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1978" data-t="1978">your group or organization is called Ungovernable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1982" data-t="1982">Misfits.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1983" data-t="1983">So what what do you think the pillars or the foundations of being ungovernable are?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1989" data-t="1989">And what would you like to impress on the Bugle audience? I'd like to call ungovernable misfits</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1994">33:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1994" data-t="1994">an unorganization.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1995">33:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1995" data-t="1995">Oh, I like that. Does that mean like a a dower or something? Pretty much. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2001" data-t="2001">It's like a decentralized</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2003" data-t="2003">autonomous</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2005" data-t="2005">group,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2007" data-t="2007">who do what the fuck they want.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2009" data-t="2009">It's not the most efficient, but it's fun. You can,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2012">33:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2012" data-t="2012">yield on it. How do how do you yield on it? You just get Don't worry about that. You just you just 5% of my government. Just it's yeah. It's it's there's well, it's between five and fifty. You don't have to worry about the details, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2025" data-t="2025">I would I would suggest you invest.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2027">33:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2027" data-t="2027">I broke 55%</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2029" data-t="2029">the other day.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2030">33:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2030" data-t="2030">Did you? Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2032" data-t="2032">Wow. That's very nice. Yeah. Dick, obviously, we won't talk about it here because this is, like, a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2038" data-t="2038">closed deal, but we can, we can get you in. We can get you into the Ground Floor, and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2044" data-t="2044">let's just say</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2045" data-t="2045">you do very well.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2047">34:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2047" data-t="2047">Yeah. Well, I would've I would've imagined</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2049" data-t="2049">like, I'm excited to hear about this opportunity, but I would've imagined,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2055" data-t="2055">the best way</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2056" data-t="2056">to be ungovernable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2058" data-t="2058">is to buy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2060" data-t="2060">your clothing</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2062">34:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2062" data-t="2062">because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2063" data-t="2063">you're ungovernable clothing.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2065">34:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2065" data-t="2065">Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you're wearing the clothing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2069" data-t="2069">then you don't have to do anything else. You can continue</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2071" data-t="2071">in your normal life complying, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2074" data-t="2074">everyone else will believe that you are ungovernable.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2077" data-t="2077">And at the end of the day, that's what really matters. So if you go to ungovernablemisfits.com,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2083" data-t="2083">you can check out all of our clothing.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2085">34:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2085" data-t="2085">You can send us some Bitcoin, and you can become ungovernable</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2089">34:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2089" data-t="2089">as soon as you put that T shirt or hoodie on. It's really all it takes. My favorite thing about the clothing line</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2095" data-t="2095">is it instantly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2096" data-t="2096">labels you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2098" data-t="2098">for surveillance.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2101">35:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2101" data-t="2101">Mhmm. The best thing to do is wear it through the airports.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2104">35:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2104" data-t="2104">They love that. I'll I'll make sure to do that the next time I'm flying.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2109" data-t="2109">I'm definitely gonna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2112" data-t="2112">be very excited to get on the conference circuit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2115" data-t="2115">again this year</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2117" data-t="2117">and and just, like, really experience PodConff on the ground. Well, I think that's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2122" data-t="2122">that's all I've got for today.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2124">35:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2124" data-t="2124">Which CIA</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2126" data-t="2126">controlled platforms can people follow you on? I believe all of them.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2131">35:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Max (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2131" data-t="2131">All of the good ones. All of the best ones. All of the most monitored ones,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2136" data-t="2136">you can find us there. But if you want to send us some stats, you can go on any of the podcasting two point o apps.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2144" data-t="2144">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2146" data-t="2146">we also have PayNim support as well. So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2149" data-t="2149">if you wanna be a little bit less compliant, you can use that too. Obviously, for maximum compliance, you want to go on the Internet.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2157">35:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2157" data-t="2157">There, you can visit us at ungovertiblemisfits.com.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2162" data-t="2162">Jack Dorsey,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2163" data-t="2163">before he handed over the reins</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2165" data-t="2165">of Twitter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2167" data-t="2167">straight to another CIA asset,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2170" data-t="2170">did a really good job with compliance.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2173">36:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2173" data-t="2173">So we can both be found</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2176" data-t="2176">on Twitter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2178" data-t="2178">UGMF</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2179" data-t="2179">podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2181" data-t="2181">ungovernable Mhmm. At ungovernable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2183" data-t="2183">m f.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2184">36:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2184" data-t="2184">Mhmm. @maxbitbybit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2187" data-t="2187">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2188" data-t="2188">at</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2189" data-t="2189">prev Gay little pigeon. Naughts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2193" data-t="2193">Gay LittlePigeon is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2195" data-t="2195">my code name for my NSA agent.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2200">36:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">John (Ungovernable Misfits)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2200" data-t="2200">Atokzji. That wasn't supposed to be shared. Well, thanks for sharing that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2204">36:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2204" data-t="2204">Appreciate your time, and, thanks for coming on the show, guys. Thanks for having us. Sure.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2211" data-t="2211">Alright.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2212" data-t="2212">So just wanna apologize to, the guests and the audience about the technical difficulties.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2217" data-t="2217">And just wanna highlight, you know, this is why your boost are so important because they're eventually gonna go towards hiring</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2224" data-t="2224">a producer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2225" data-t="2225">So I can, you know, focus on what I do best, which is talking,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2230">37:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2230" data-t="2230">about, you know, the important</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2232" data-t="2232">things happening in the world right now, you know, covering the news,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2236" data-t="2236">from a very fair and balanced and and honest,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2240" data-t="2240">way,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2241" data-t="2241">you know, as a journalist, you know, following the best journalist ethics because I went to school and learned all about it, unlike a lot of other podcasters.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2252" data-t="2252">But, yeah, I mean,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2254">37:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2254" data-t="2254">your boost matter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2256" data-t="2256">and and so now, you know, it's time to read the boost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2260" data-t="2260">So for our first one,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2262" data-t="2262">Linkin Park rules boosted 11,111</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2266" data-t="2266">sats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2268" data-t="2268">And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2269">37:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2269" data-t="2269">he said, as I was taking a three d selfie for my strike account verification</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2273" data-t="2273">for $1</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2274" data-t="2274">daily d c DCAs,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2276" data-t="2276">I heard the siren song of the vehicle weekly's musical and lyrical reimagination</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2280" data-t="2280">in Linkin Park. I'm not sure if you're aware, but I'm quite a fan.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2284" data-t="2284">Buy some cools with these sads. Hashtag free samurai.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2288">38:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2288" data-t="2288">Well, thank you thank you for your boost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2292" data-t="2292">I'm not gonna buy cools. I only buy Marlboro</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2295" data-t="2295">Reds.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2296" data-t="2296">That's that's rule number one to success as a journalist is you don't smoke, you know, altcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2301" data-t="2301">cigarettes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2305" data-t="2305">But, yeah, I'm a big fan of Linkin Park as well.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2308">38:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2308" data-t="2308">And, you know, I've been wanting to remake the song and improve on it in a way that, you know, Bitcoiners can understand.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2315" data-t="2315">And, you know, I've got got in as far as rewriting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2319" data-t="2319">the lyrics to the chorus, which goes something like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2322" data-t="2322">I complied</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2323" data-t="2323">so hard</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2324" data-t="2324">and got so far,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2327">38:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2327" data-t="2327">but in the end,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2328" data-t="2328">it doesn't even</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2330" data-t="2330">matter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2331" data-t="2331">And so I'd I'm, like, trying to figure out what the best way to do it is. You know? Unfortunately, Chester isn't alive anymore to to redo the song,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2341" data-t="2341">from a compliance standard,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2344" data-t="2344">but I'll I'll figure something out in the near future. But thank you for the boost, Linkin Park rules.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2350">39:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2350" data-t="2350">The next</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2351" data-t="2351">the next boost</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2352" data-t="2352">was from Gulag Bound, who's been one of the most consistent boosters for us.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2357" data-t="2357">And they say, just got back from the honeymoon.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2360" data-t="2360">I complied with my wife's wishes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2362" data-t="2362">and didn't listen to Bitcoin podcasts while traveling. Man, that sounds</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2367">39:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2367" data-t="2367">rough. Just now catching up with and now I'm confused.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2371" data-t="2371">I was on the path to mass compliance in the last six of life, but now it's bad. Where do I draw the line on noncompliance?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2378" data-t="2378">Should I not listen to my wife?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2381" data-t="2381">Am I now gulag bound?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2383" data-t="2383">Are you trying to lure the noncompliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2385" data-t="2385">out to send them to the gulag?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2388">39:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2388" data-t="2388">So much to unpack here. Please help a non</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2391" data-t="2391">journalism</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2391">trained civilian out. Yeah. I mean, that's what we're doing here.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2396" data-t="2396">I think, you know, it's important. So when you're looking at a romantic relationship,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2403" data-t="2403">your relationship</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2404" data-t="2404">with government should be very similar where, you know, both parties</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2410">40:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2410" data-t="2410">are consenting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2413" data-t="2413">to the arrangement,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2414" data-t="2414">and there isn't one party that's, you know, only</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2418" data-t="2418">compliant. So it it's kinda like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2421" data-t="2421">if,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2424" data-t="2424">your wife was like, a relationship with government right now where they're they're the noncompliant ones, and we've been the compliant ones. It's kinda like as if your wife asked you</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2435">40:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2435" data-t="2435">to not listen to Bitcoin podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2437" data-t="2437">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2439" data-t="2439">she you asked her not to listen to true crime podcast or whatever women listen to and not sit on Pinterest all day telling you about all the stuff that you have to buy instead of Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2451" data-t="2451">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2453" data-t="2453">and didn't comply throughout the whole honeymoon. Like, it would have just been a bummer. And, like, right now, where we're at right now, it is a bummer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2460" data-t="2460">And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2461">41:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2461" data-t="2461">when you're in a situation where the other party is not complying, you know, why would you comply</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2467" data-t="2467">with them? It doesn't make any sense. Like, the reason why you get married</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2471" data-t="2471">is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2472" data-t="2472">you know, because you think the other person's gonna be compliant with you for the rest of, you know, the duration of the marriage,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2478" data-t="2478">hopefully to the end of your life.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2482" data-t="2482">And, you know, it's kinda the same idea when you pay taxes. You hope that the government, you know, is going to follow their own rules. They're gonna</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2490">41:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2490" data-t="2490">build the roads. They're gonna keep you safe.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2492" data-t="2492">But if if they take that and they say, no, we're not gonna comply. We're gonna we're gonna launder money</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2500" data-t="2500">through the CIA using samurai wallet, and then we're gonna arrest</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2504" data-t="2504">samurai wallet for laundering the CIA's money. Like, that doesn't make any sense. How can you comply</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2511" data-t="2511">with an organization like that? Like, the only answer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2515" data-t="2515">is noncompliance</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2516">41:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2516" data-t="2516">until they comply because they have to realize,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2519" data-t="2519">you know, we we have the power to strike. Like, we have power in the society to change things,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2526" data-t="2526">and we just want them to be compliant. And so I think, you know, the path forward is we need to either need to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2533" data-t="2533">to create some constitutional</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2535" data-t="2535">amendments so that they can, you know, continue the way they're currently continuing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2541" data-t="2541">while being compliant. We need to we need to take away the rules that are restricting them,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2546">42:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2546" data-t="2546">or or they just need to change their behavior. But but either way,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2549" data-t="2549">we can't comply until they comply. Like, they're they're the ones</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2554" data-t="2554">that are making the decision and kinda breaking that that contract with us,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2560" data-t="2560">by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2561" data-t="2561">doing these things,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2563" data-t="2563">that are just so noncompliant.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2565">42:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2565" data-t="2565">It it's hard to wrap your mind around. Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2567" data-t="2567">you know, people like Linkin Park are are trying to do their best with doing their three d selfies on strike.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2575" data-t="2575">And the CIA</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2576" data-t="2576">is buying Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2578" data-t="2578">and mining Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2579" data-t="2579">without KYC.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2581">43:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2581" data-t="2581">Why why is that why is that fair?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2584" data-t="2584">It's not fair.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2586" data-t="2586">Why do they get to launder money through Ukraine,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2590" data-t="2590">using Bitcoin and samurai wallet, but we can't?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2594" data-t="2594">It doesn't make any sense.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2596" data-t="2596">So, you know, either they need to allow us to launder money through Ukraine,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2601">43:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2601" data-t="2601">or,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2603" data-t="2603">they need to legalize it so that the samurai guys are not in jail. It's just absolutely outrageous.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2609" data-t="2609">We need to fix this. It's it's a major problem.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2614" data-t="2614">Thank you for your boost, Gulag Brown. But, yeah, we're not we're not trying to get the noncompliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2619" data-t="2619">people in Gulags. I I I just think, you know, people underestimate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2624" data-t="2624">their power to create change,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2626">43:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2626" data-t="2626">And we've seen a lot of nonviolent</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2629" data-t="2629">civil disobedience</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2631" data-t="2631">really shift,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2633" data-t="2633">how government works and and force them to be compliant in the past. So we need to do that again.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2638" data-t="2638">The next boost is from fundamentals who says, these guys have the nerve to tell me to tone it down when their sponsor, Podkoff, is the scourge on humanity ball guzzlers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2651" data-t="2651">Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2654">44:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2654" data-t="2654">PodCon's pretty bad. And and what like, I don't think it reflects bad on us that they're our sponsor because we we're very,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2662" data-t="2662">you know, forthcoming about how we feel about them, what we think about what they're doing, that we disagree with them. You know, they're preaching compliance at a time that it doesn't make sense to be compliant.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2675" data-t="2675">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2676" data-t="2676">you know, I think that's the important thing is, you know, we're taking care of our listeners</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2681" data-t="2681">even though we're you you know, we're taking their sponsorship</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2684" data-t="2684">money</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2685">44:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2685" data-t="2685">to be able to put out this content to fight</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2689" data-t="2689">them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2690" data-t="2690">And why why they're sponsoring us, I'm not really sure.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2695" data-t="2695">But, you know, we're we're in a contract for five years.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2700" data-t="2700">So we gotta stick with it until that contract ends.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2705" data-t="2705">The next boost</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2706">45:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2706" data-t="2706">or thank you, fundamentals, for the boost. The next boost is from Orange Mart who boosted 5,000 sats and said,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2714" data-t="2714">the Orange Mart proudly stands with the bugle in making the month of May a month of civil noncompliance,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2721" data-t="2721">with a copyright sign afterwards.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2723" data-t="2723">No more compliance until the government complies. Hashtag compliance straight. 100%. So Orange Mart gets it gets what we're trying to do here.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2732" data-t="2732">You know, we're we're trying to to void this is a democracy, and laundering money, like Rod Palmer said,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2738" data-t="2738">should be legal</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2740">45:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2740" data-t="2740">if you're laundering it for the CIA</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2742" data-t="2742">in a democracy. This is not North Korea where it's illegal to launder money for intelligence agencies.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2750" data-t="2750">We we need to get things back on track.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2754" data-t="2754">We need to, you know, stop the encroachment, the noncompliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2757" data-t="2757">encroachments</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2758" data-t="2758">from these three letter agencies.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2762">46:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2762" data-t="2762">And and we need to, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2764" data-t="2764">we need to fix things. We need to usher in the bright orange feature of that every party is compliant with each other.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2773" data-t="2773">The next boost</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2774" data-t="2774">oh, well, before I go on to the next boost,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2777" data-t="2777">big shout out to Orange Mart.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2781" data-t="2781">I tried</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2782">46:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2782" data-t="2782">playing Rust, and I got stuck on the tutorial. You know, my my,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2788" data-t="2788">experience with video games is really limited.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2791" data-t="2791">You know, I used to play Pong</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2793" data-t="2793">when I was a kid, and, you know, I I play pinball from time to time. I consider that a video game, but I don't think most people do.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2802" data-t="2802">Like, it's a video game because there's a video screen with the score on it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2807" data-t="2807">That that's what I, you know, how I classify the difference between video games and and, like, board games. Because, like, when you're playing risk,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2814">46:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2814" data-t="2814">there's no scoreboard,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2816" data-t="2816">showing the score, and so therefore, it's not a video game.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2821" data-t="2821">But, yeah, I plan on finishing the tutorial once I can figure out how to cut down these trees with rocks. It's pretty time consuming,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2829" data-t="2829">and I wanna experience Orange Mart. I saw Orange Mart is also,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2834" data-t="2834">repping PodConv</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2835" data-t="2835">and did a sponsorship,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2837">47:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2837" data-t="2837">last week, and that was really cool to see.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2840" data-t="2840">So big thank you for Orange Mart. Thank you for supporting the show.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2844" data-t="2844">I I could see a future where we're recording our podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2848" data-t="2848">live in Orange Mart, and that would be really cool. I would enjoy that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2852" data-t="2852">And then the last boost for today is Satsmate who boosted boosted a 100</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2858" data-t="2858">saying, nice podcast.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2860">47:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2860" data-t="2860">I think there's nothing wrong with breaking the sponsorship</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2863" data-t="2863">if the feeling is mutual.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2864" data-t="2864">Also, we need monetary maximalists and privacy advocates in Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2869" data-t="2869">The number go</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2870" data-t="2870">go up crew is ruining Bitcoin from my point of view.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2874" data-t="2874">And if it keeps on getting worse, it will just be a state capture coin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2879">47:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2879" data-t="2879">Yeah. So, I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2881" data-t="2881">if Bitcoin is a state capture coin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2884" data-t="2884">I don't think that's an inherently a bad thing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2886" data-t="2886">as long as the government is compliant.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2889" data-t="2889">And that that's the key right there. So Naive Bukele</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2892" data-t="2892">is a very compliant individual,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2894">48:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2894" data-t="2894">and it's been great to see,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2897" data-t="2897">you know, him roll a custodial lightning wallet service across the country,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2902" data-t="2902">because he, you know, he's compliant. And he's so compliant,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2906" data-t="2906">he's trying to force his peers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2908" data-t="2908">in in the government to be compliant.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2911" data-t="2911">And he's doing that by investigating</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2913">48:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2913" data-t="2913">them all, which is, you know, a big part of democracy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2917" data-t="2917">is investigating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2918" data-t="2918">other politicians and and using your power to to force them to be compliant. Like, you know, the Biden White House has been doing that too, and the Obama White House did that to Trump,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2929" data-t="2929">to try and force him to comply. And and that was just you know, it was very democratic.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2935" data-t="2935">And and that's more of what we need. But, you know, if we can force the government to be compliant with their own rules,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2942" data-t="2942">you know, they could do things like fix Bitcoin's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2945">49:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2945" data-t="2945">security budget,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2947" data-t="2947">by subsidizing miners. And then we don't have to argue about the block rewards anymore. And, you know, Peter Todd doesn't have to come up with any stupid ideas about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2955" data-t="2955">changing the max supply of Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2959" data-t="2959">And everybody lives happily ever after, and we we get the the orange bright orange feature.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2966" data-t="2966">So so the key is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2969" data-t="2969">getting the government to comply. There needs to be mutual compliance going around.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2973">49:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2973" data-t="2973">One-sided compliance doesn't really work well.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2977" data-t="2977">As far as breaking the sponsorship,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2979" data-t="2979">we we got we got, you know, four years and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2984" data-t="2984">and eight and a half months or nine and a half months to go. We'll get through it. We just gotta grit our teeth and, you know, continue to play their advertisements,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2994" data-t="2994">showing their merch.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2996" data-t="2996">But but then we can follow it up with criticism</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2999">49:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2999" data-t="2999">where criticisms</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3000" data-t="3000">do.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3001" data-t="3001">Anyways, thank you for all your support.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3003" data-t="3003">I look forward to a feature</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3006" data-t="3006">where, you know, we can afford a hot producer, you know, to to yell at,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3011" data-t="3011">when we want things fact checked live on the show, kinda like Joe Rogan does to Jamie.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3018">50:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3018" data-t="3018">So, you know, we can focus entirely on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3021" data-t="3021">doing the thinking for you instead of having to fumble with all this technology.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3026" data-t="3026">But, yeah,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3027" data-t="3027">again, wanna thank the Ungovernable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3030" data-t="3030">Misfits,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3031" data-t="3031">for their time,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3033">50:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3033" data-t="3033">and expertise</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3034" data-t="3034">on the show.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3036" data-t="3036">Definitely go give them a follow and boost them on fountain. I mean, they've been crushing it. They've they've been dominating the fountain,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3043" data-t="3043">charts week after week after week. You know, some of their shows are, like, one, two, three.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3050" data-t="3050">They're at the top of fountain,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3052" data-t="3052">and and so</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3053">50:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3053" data-t="3053">it's pretty cool to see that even though they're not credentialed journalists.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3059" data-t="3059">You know, sometimes you have to lower your standards</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3064" data-t="3064">when when people are producing, you know, good quality content.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3070" data-t="3070">But yeah. Anyways, thank you for tuning in to this episode of the Bugle Weekly, and we will see you next week.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3078">51:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3078" data-t="3078">Thank you for listening to the Bugle Weekly podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3081" data-t="3081">the premier podcast ran by properly credentialed journalists.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3085" data-t="3085">On this week's episode, Richard Grieser was joined by non compliant podcasters from the Ungovernable Misfits podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3092" data-t="3092">Make sure to go over to their show and boost them on fountain after you boost us.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3096" data-t="3096">Remember, we cannot comply until the government complies.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3100" data-t="3100">If only one party in a relationship complies, it will only create dysfunction and pain.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3105">51:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3105" data-t="3105">What we demand is fairness where both parties follow the rules.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3109" data-t="3109">The rules of the game are changing and if we sleep on it, the future will not be bright and orange like we want it to be. Have hope though because you have the world's smartest and most talented journalists working for you to present the hard hitting truths other organizations like Ordinals Magazine and Swan with a dollar sign refuse to cover.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3128" data-t="3128">Once again, thanks for tuning in, and we will see you next week.</span></span></p>