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diff --git a/wiki/transcripts/truckin-down-the-rabbit-hole-bugle-weekly-episode-57.md b/wiki/transcripts/truckin-down-the-rabbit-hole-bugle-weekly-episode-57.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..08460a2b @@ -0,0 +1,495 @@ +--- +title: "Transcript: Truckin Down The Rabbit Hole | Bugle Weekly Episode 57" +type: transcript +episode: truckin-down-the-rabbit-hole-bugle-weekly-episode-57 +generated: true +date: 2025-04-28 +audio: "https://feeds.fountain.fm/R8scBF2Wiykm0YVldsHQ/items/WTQSqSfjJvNGMkker8WK/files/AUDIO---DEFAULT---06358b77-a485-465b-b3f2-bcca1c5daabe.mp3" +duration: "1:20:08" +sources: + - raw/episodes/truckin-down-the-rabbit-hole-bugle-weekly-episode-57/bundle.json +--- + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-6">0:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Timmy Tether</b> <span class="cue" id="t-6" data-t="6">This is the forty hours per week Bitcoin podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-10" data-t="10">listener spotlight</span> <span class="cue" id="t-11" data-t="11">with your host, Timmy Tether.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-19">0:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Timmy Tether</b> <span class="cue" id="t-19" data-t="19">Welcome to the forty hours per week Bitcoin podcast listener spotlight. I'm your host, Timmy Tether. And today, we are putting the spotlight on a true blue collar inspiration.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-27" data-t="27">His name is Randy Winston, and he's a truck driver from Peoria, Illinois.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-30" data-t="30">Now I had the pleasure of meeting Randy while working on Plebs on Parade, and folks, you're gonna love Randy. So let's get to the spotlight.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-45">0:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Randy Winston (Hall and Sats)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-45" data-t="45">Yeah. So my Fiat name is Randy, but most people know me by my trucker call sign or from Noster as Holland Satz.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-56" data-t="56">I drive a two thousand seventeen</span> <span class="cue" id="t-59" data-t="59">twelve speed air ride Peterbilt 18 wheeler.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-62" data-t="62">Her name is Diesel Hornet.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-65" data-t="65">I'm the first person in my family to get a CDL.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-68" data-t="68">That's a commercial driver's license,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-70">1:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Randy Winston (Hall and Sats)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-70" data-t="70">the most prestigious credential in the transportation industry.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-77" data-t="77">I was orange pilled by a fellow trucker and a road nim</span> <span class="cue" id="t-82" data-t="82">named Skidmark</span> <span class="cue" id="t-83" data-t="83">over CB</span> <span class="cue" id="t-84" data-t="84">Radio while hauling a load through the Arkansas Ozarks in 2019.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-90" data-t="90">Skidmark caught a bid a few years earlier for soliciting what we call a fed of the road,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-96">1:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Randy Winston (Hall and Sats)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-96" data-t="96">which is an undercover cop posing as a prostitute.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-109" data-t="109">Bitcoin podcasts per week while driving Diesel Hornet,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-113" data-t="113">delivering loads all over North America.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-115" data-t="115">It has lowered my time preference considerably.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-119" data-t="119">I've orange pilled gas station proprietors at truck stops in 16 states and started contributing to decentralizing the network by plugging my BitX into the cigarette lighter in my truck, which I also use to light my Winston brand cigarettes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-135" data-t="135">These days, when I'm not listening to podcasts and hashing with diesel,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-139">2:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Randy Winston (Hall and Sats)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-139" data-t="139">I'm communicating with other plebs in the Mej Dadell</span> <span class="cue" id="t-143" data-t="143">who are working on building the infrastructure for a trucker circular economy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-147" data-t="147">over mesh networks</span> <span class="cue" id="t-149" data-t="149">and beta testing an app to send lightning over CB radio.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-153" data-t="153">If we ever cross paths on the road,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-156" data-t="156">make sure to zap the QR code on the side of Diesel Hornet,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-160">2:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Randy Winston (Hall and Sats)</b> <span class="cue" id="t-160" data-t="160">and I'll honk her horn for you.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-171">2:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Timmy Tether</b> <span class="cue" id="t-171" data-t="171">Folks, that was Hall and Satsen. Let me tell you, he's as impressive in person as he sounds on a podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-176" data-t="176">Well, that concludes this edition of the forty hours per week Bitcoin podcast listener spotlight.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-183" data-t="183">If you'd like to be featured in our spotlight, reach out and send us your proof of forty hours per week so we can tell your story. And don't forget to visit orangelabel.co</span> <span class="cue" id="t-191" data-t="191">to buy your forty hours per week swag, including the brand new Lynn Alden is hot teas as well as the fresh new entropy design so you can impress everyone at the next Bitcoin conference.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-202">3:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-202" data-t="202">Welcome back to Bugle weekly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-204" data-t="204">I'm Rod Palmer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-205" data-t="205">I'm here with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-207" data-t="207">Bugle News managing editor,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-209" data-t="209">Richard Grieser.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-211" data-t="211">And, you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-213">3:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-213" data-t="213">it's been a wild past couple months.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-216" data-t="216">The tariffs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-217" data-t="217">and, you know, even even COVID the past few years before it is just really what, like, reminded</span> <span class="cue" id="t-223" data-t="223">Americans</span> <span class="cue" id="t-225" data-t="225">at corners of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-227" data-t="227">the backbone. What is the backbone of the economy? What is the backbone of modern society?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-233">3:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-233" data-t="233">It's the truckers. It's the truckers who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-236" data-t="236">they're hall and loop all across the country, rain or shine. Doesn't matter what the temperature. Doesn't matter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-241" data-t="241">Climate change, doesn't matter if there's a recession, the truckers are trucking, doesn't matter anything.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-246" data-t="246">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-248" data-t="248">they are also</span> <span class="cue" id="t-249" data-t="249">the ones leading, especially in places like Canada,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-253">4:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-253" data-t="253">the you know, will be towards hyper Bitcoinization because they're driving</span> <span class="cue" id="t-258" data-t="258">forty hours per week plus.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-261" data-t="261">And that entire time,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-263" data-t="263">they are able to listen to Bitcoin podcasts. It's the it's the perfect job to where you can have, you know, so people try to work remotely and they have multiple jobs, but it's the truckers who can really do it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-273" data-t="273">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-275" data-t="275">we're really trying to focus on those guys. Those guys are using the CB radios.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-279">4:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-279" data-t="279">They know how to to pick up signal. So we're gonna broadcast that signal to them, and we're gonna we really wanna focus our efforts on Orange Building truckers. But most of all, we want to, show our appreciation to truckers. How are you doing, Richard?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-292">4:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-292" data-t="292">I'm doing well. I'm really grateful for, truckers. We we couldn't be podcasting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-297" data-t="297">without truckers. We couldn't be listening to podcasts without truckers. All the all the devices, all the headphones, all the microphones, all the typewriters,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-306" data-t="306">you know, all our gear.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-308" data-t="308">We have it because of truckers. They deliver it to us. They deliver it to us while they're listening to forty hours Bitcoin podcast a week. They</span> <span class="cue" id="t-317" data-t="317">are working hard. They're they're away from their families</span> <span class="cue" id="t-320" data-t="320">quite a bit.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-323">5:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-323" data-t="323">When they're,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-325" data-t="325">I mean, it just makes so much sense for truckers to be orange pilled.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-329" data-t="329">It just makes so much sense for them to be orange pilled, because they're they're getting pretty hammered right now by the economy. Even though the economy is doing fine, they're still getting hammered by it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-339" data-t="339">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-340" data-t="340">you know, they're they're going they're they're truck stops. They're interacting with these prostitutes. As we know about prostitutes, prostitutes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-347" data-t="347">oftentimes are also orange pilled and listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts a week. They're</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-352">5:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-352" data-t="352">having Bitcoin meetups</span> <span class="cue" id="t-354" data-t="354">using their CV radios.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-356" data-t="356">They are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-358" data-t="358">on the front lines.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-360" data-t="360">And when you think about the Canadian trucker protest,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-364" data-t="364">we we know that there's a lot of Canadians that are based, and there's a lot of Canadians that are not based.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-370">6:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-370" data-t="370">You but, you know, when it wherever there's a huge concentration of MPCs, there's also gonna be a huge concentration of base people, because the MPCs create base people. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-381" data-t="381">The people that are smoking cigarettes using their brains,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-385" data-t="385">they're they're pushed to become more based. And the Canadian truckers, when they were leading the trucker protest</span> <span class="cue" id="t-392" data-t="392">and nobody's talking about this. Nobody's talking about this. But the reason why that protest happened was because of forty hours per week.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-400">6:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-400" data-t="400">Exactly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-401" data-t="401">Exactly. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-402" data-t="402">it started with the Canadian truckers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-405" data-t="405">But just wait until</span> <span class="cue" id="t-407" data-t="407">all the other truckers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-408" data-t="408">realize</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-409">6:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-409" data-t="409">that they can listen to forty hours per week</span> <span class="cue" id="t-412" data-t="412">as they're driving rig</span> <span class="cue" id="t-414" data-t="414">and what that value of that forty hours per week is, what that, like, community that they build,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-420" data-t="420">what the the the low time preference that they develop.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-424" data-t="424">And then they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-425" data-t="425">realize, okay, this is almost like having two jobs, like dual income, like to help me stack apps. And I don't even have to give up my chair.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-433">7:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-433" data-t="433">In fact, it helps me</span> <span class="cue" id="t-434" data-t="434">in this process. And then they say,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-437" data-t="437">oh, I can listen to my forty hours and then I can have the weekend to listen to more Bitcoin podcasts that week or to hang out with my family</span> <span class="cue" id="t-445" data-t="445">or to, you know, learn how to Bitcoin miner watch forty hours of BTC sessions tutorials and set up a lightning note. But then they'll</span> <span class="cue" id="t-453" data-t="453">realize probably as they're,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-456" data-t="456">tasked with delivering them across the country.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-459">7:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-459" data-t="459">They'll learn about bid access and to learn that they can plug in their bid acts in their rig while they're driving.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-465" data-t="465">Listen to forty hours per week,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-468" data-t="468">decentralize the network,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-469" data-t="469">and earn sets, potentially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-471" data-t="471">find a block.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-473" data-t="473">And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-475">7:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-475" data-t="475">this is also</span> <span class="cue" id="t-476" data-t="476">further decentralizing mining because now we have mobile</span> <span class="cue" id="t-481" data-t="481">jurisdictionally,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-483" data-t="483">dynamic,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-485" data-t="485">hard to track non KYC</span> <span class="cue" id="t-488" data-t="488">Bitcoin mining,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-489">8:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-489" data-t="489">you know, operations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-491" data-t="491">all throughout the country, throughout North America, throughout Asia. You've got truckers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-496" data-t="496">driving across their continents, across their states, across their countries.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-501" data-t="501">And, you know, if there's a hash war, if there's a military war, you know, this this derisks</span> <span class="cue" id="t-507" data-t="507">Bitcoin mining and the derisks</span> <span class="cue" id="t-509" data-t="509">investing in Bitcoin miners like Hut eight and Riot and Marathon</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-514">8:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-514" data-t="514">and and and, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-516" data-t="516">making your retirement income go up. So this is just huge. We're we're really wanna focus on on on these truckers, and we really do wanna raise awareness for the biggest protest. The biggest,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-528" data-t="528">you know, standoff</span> <span class="cue" id="t-530" data-t="530">with the federal government, the state,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-532" data-t="532">and the biggest victory</span> <span class="cue" id="t-534" data-t="534">in the end was the Canadian truckers</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-537">8:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-537" data-t="537">fueled by forty hours per week. Definitely. It's an example for us all, and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-542" data-t="542">I I just think, you know, there's these people that make society work.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-547" data-t="547">They're the people that actually do all the dirty work behind the scenes, and and the truckers are those people driving all of our stuff</span> <span class="cue" id="t-556" data-t="556">around. We wouldn't have stuff without truckers, and, you know, a lot of people that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-560" data-t="560">don't listen to forty hours per week that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-563" data-t="563">that believe in Keynesian economics, they they just think that, like, things teleport to stores.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-569">9:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-569" data-t="569">They don't realize how they get there. They don't realize that there's farmers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-572" data-t="572">riding on their tractors,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-574" data-t="574">harvesting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-575" data-t="575">all the crops,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-577" data-t="577">ranchers taking care of the cattle, and then the truckers driving those products from the farms, from the ranches</span> <span class="cue" id="t-584" data-t="584">to the grocery store. They just think it teleports there. Just magically, it's yours.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-589">9:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-589" data-t="589">Do people think that cigarettes grow on cigarette trees outside the supermarket or outside the bodega? No. Truckers deliver</span> <span class="cue" id="t-597" data-t="597">from the tobacco farms.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-599" data-t="599">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-600" data-t="600">even if you're, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-602" data-t="602">even if you're a lefty loony and you think there's, like, too much consumerism, think about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-607" data-t="607">driving down the highway. What do truckers do? Truckers,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-610">10:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-610" data-t="610">they spot cops. They they spot the bears in the bushes, and they and they blink their lights at you and warn you that the government is gonna try and make it harder for you to afford taxes that week. And, you know, they're the ones that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-626" data-t="626">they rule the road. You know, they they throttle the network like when you're trying to go on vacation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-632" data-t="632">or you're trying to drive and travel somewhere, they get in the, the hammer lane and they block it. They slow down traffic and, you know, it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-639" data-t="639">it's because they're of their size and their influence.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-642" data-t="642">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-644" data-t="644">Yeah, it's like having or having the roads ruled by orange piddled Bitcoiners</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-650">10:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-650" data-t="650">is gonna fix</span> <span class="cue" id="t-651" data-t="651">our infrastructure and it's gonna fix our interstates. It's gonna fix our traffic problems.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-656" data-t="656">It's gonna fix our logistics, our trade. It's gonna fix all this is how Bitcoin fixes these things at scale. Bitcoin fixes things at scale by using truckers. 100%. I mean, we're they're gonna be the first people that kinda usher in the free market road systems</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-672">11:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-672" data-t="672">that are gonna fix our roads and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-674" data-t="674">implement</span> <span class="cue" id="t-675" data-t="675">lightning payments for miles driven.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-679" data-t="679">It's gonna be it's gonna be, like I mean, you could you could think about this. This would be really interesting if Fountain did this. They did Fountain for truckers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-688" data-t="688">and they were able to kinda combine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-691" data-t="691">minutes listened to</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-693">11:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-693" data-t="693">and miles driven with SatStream.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-696" data-t="696">If there was a payment split for every StratSatStream</span> <span class="cue" id="t-700" data-t="700">to the free market,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-702" data-t="702">private road company, instead of us having to pay taxes for them to to not fix the roads,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-708" data-t="708">there'll be private corporations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-710" data-t="710">building the roads, and they would fix Right. Because Think about how</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-715">11:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-715" data-t="715">think about how much easier</span> <span class="cue" id="t-717" data-t="717">it would be to go through, you know, a toll road. Instead of having to stop everybody's and they're digging through their coins and they're trying to count out dollar 72.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-726" data-t="726">You just scan a lightning invoice as you drive through.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-730" data-t="730">You you just solved all the problems at toll roads at these bottlenecks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-736" data-t="736">And think about, you know, these really rural places out in, you know, Arizona, Nevada,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-741" data-t="741">Montana, Iowa. Those people don't might not even know about Bitcoin Podcasts.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-746">12:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-746" data-t="746">But if a trucker is delivering</span> <span class="cue" id="t-748" data-t="748">a load out to their, you know, corner of the country,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-751" data-t="751">they have the opportunity to orange pill the gas station attendants and get them to accept lightning,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-757" data-t="757">at truck stops, at vending machines,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-759" data-t="759">to get gas to fill up their diesel truck, to plug in their bid acts at night when they're sleeping.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-765" data-t="765">The orange pill at the margins. They or these these these truckers this is why, you know, orange pilling and this is for a different topic for a different day. Orange pilling the,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-775">12:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-775" data-t="775">the postal service so people can buy stamps with lightning. This will get out to the most rural places where we know people and and and potential</span> <span class="cue" id="t-783" data-t="783">orange pilling opportunities exist.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-787" data-t="787">And these truckers really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-789" data-t="789">like I said, they grow</span> <span class="cue" id="t-791" data-t="791">the the network at the margins</span> <span class="cue" id="t-793" data-t="793">and they they use these CD radios.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-795">13:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-795" data-t="795">They could be sending what you know, transactions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-798" data-t="798">on lightning over CD radio. You can set up mesh networks. The mesh though can can profit,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-804" data-t="804">you know, propagate through</span> <span class="cue" id="t-807" data-t="807">through the truck or movement.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-809" data-t="809">And it's like you can have localized spaces. You can just get on CD radio and it can be like clubhouse.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-815" data-t="815">And it'll break up the boredom and, you know, loneliness of being on the road.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-820">13:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-820" data-t="820">Definitely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-822" data-t="822">Well, I think I kinda wanna wrap up this topic of the the truckers. Not that we couldn't talk about it for a while. But, before we do, I wanna kick it over to Kaylee</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-832">13:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kaylee Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-832" data-t="832">to hear from her interview that she did with a trucker on the ground. Hey. This is Kaylee Welch. I'm on the road doing some on the ground reporting with Louise Snekelbuck,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-842" data-t="842">who is a self employed truck driver who also listens to forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts a week. We are currently driving from Nashville to New York. If there is one group committed to forty hours per week, it's the truckers.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-854">14:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Louise Snekelbuck</b> <span class="cue" id="t-854" data-t="854">Louise, can you tell me which Bitcoin podcasts are your go tos on trips such as this? Hey. Thanks for riding with me on this trip, Kaylee. I'm not allowed to drive drunk while I'm working, unfortunately,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-864" data-t="864">but that doesn't mean we can't have a good time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-867" data-t="867">My favorite Bitcoin podcasts consist, of course, of the Bugle Weekly,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-871" data-t="871">but I like coin stories with Natalie Brunel, any Lynn Alden interview, and I get a kick out of Citadel dispatch because Odell is so grumpy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-880">14:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kaylee Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-880" data-t="880">You're right. Odell is a little bitch. I'm not sure what his problem is. He gets super grumpy especially if you call him grumpy. So can you tell me why you find it important to listen to Bitcoin podcast when you're on the road? I listen to my 40 every week because trucking is hard. The Fiat world is coming crashing down around us and so many of my peers are going out of business. Not me though because I listen to 40 HPW and stack sats.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-903">15:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Louise Snekelbuck</b> <span class="cue" id="t-903" data-t="903">I need to know about the macro, the memes, and to overall understand the world from a first principles and thermodynamically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-910" data-t="910">sound perspective.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-911" data-t="911">I also need to know what's going on so I can talk to other truck drivers on our ham radio Bitcoin meetups.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-917">15:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kaylee Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-917" data-t="917">That's awesome, Luis. Thanks for letting me interview you. This is Kaylee Welch reporting in from rural Tennessee. Now let's get back to the regular scheduled content.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-925">15:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-925" data-t="925">Well, thank you, Kaylee, for that. That was really interesting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-930">15:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-930" data-t="930">It was great to have Kaylee back to us for sure. I mean, everything's been going smooth. She seems like she's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-937" data-t="937">seems like she's really having a good time, really get coming into her own. Yeah. She's great. She's the best.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-943">15:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-943" data-t="943">She was really funny this week. Her her and Maggie were beefing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-947" data-t="947">I had a I had a good time,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-950" data-t="950">seeing them argue.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-951" data-t="951">And they they can get a little bit bit fiery, but they they work things out eventually, and they came to a conclusion. But there was a big debate in the Beagle newsroom</span> <span class="cue" id="t-960" data-t="960">on whether the women of the Beagle newsroom should wear</span> <span class="cue" id="t-964" data-t="964">skirts</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-965">16:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-965" data-t="965">or dresses</span> <span class="cue" id="t-967" data-t="967">or if they should wear pantsuits. And so Maggie wanted to wear pantsuits and Kaylee wanted to wear dresses.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-974" data-t="974">They did a lot of arguing that it that said a lot of mean things to each other.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-980" data-t="980">Maggie was talking about how she didn't wanna see, like, Kaylee's legs and cleavage, and that was distracting for the men.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-989" data-t="989">Kaylee said that she is just distracting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-992" data-t="992">no matter what she wears because she's so hot. It was, it was quite the fiery back and forth.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1000">16:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1000" data-t="1000">And it was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1002" data-t="1002">it was a really good reminder. You know, there's a lot of guys out there, and they're looking for an orange pilled girlfriend. They're looking for a Bitcoin or a girlfriend</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1011" data-t="1011">and or a Bitcoin or wife. You know what I mean? And it's it's hard to find and they think, you know, they have these fantasies or these they romanticize the idea of their Bitcoin or wife and they're gonna talk about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1022" data-t="1022">Sailor Series and they're gonna, you know, sit down and and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1026" data-t="1026">have a beef steak and and talk about the forty hours podcast they listen to that week and and how they think that fiat money is gonna be destroyed,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1035" data-t="1035">by the lining of incentives. The reality is that orange pilled women are no different than,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1041">17:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1041" data-t="1041">you know, normally wouldn't. They're still bickering over fashion. They're still worried about what should I wear. Is it gonna is it gonna be hot or is it gonna be cold? Do I have to wear a coat when I when I come to this thing? Oh, I've got you wear the right coat. Can you please let me wear your coat? It's raining out. Then you have to walk around and get wet and cold. It sucks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1058" data-t="1058">And they're worried about, Hey, does this shirt make me look</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1061" data-t="1061">fat? Or if they're jealous of their girlfriends, so they're getting some kind of you know, strong like orange build girlfriends, orange build wives.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1069" data-t="1069">They're really no different than the normal wives, so it's be careful what you wish for. It's just, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1075" data-t="1075">so you don't want</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1077" data-t="1077">just a crazy high maintenance, high drama woman. It's also,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1081">18:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1081" data-t="1081">you know, what, getting really pissed every time you spend too many sass. Like, she's the one that's tighter than you.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1087">18:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1087" data-t="1087">Well, I I think the way I would phrase it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1091" data-t="1091">would be a little bit more diplomatic than what you just said. But, I I would say</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1097" data-t="1097">orange pill women,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1098" data-t="1098">women living on the Bitcoin standard, at the end of the day, they they are different than normie women, but they're still women.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1105" data-t="1105">They're not one of the bros.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1108" data-t="1108">They're not gonna be one of your bros.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1110">18:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1110" data-t="1110">You don't want</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1111" data-t="1111">your wife</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1113" data-t="1113">to be one of the bros. You want you want her to be a woman.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1117" data-t="1117">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1118" data-t="1118">I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1120" data-t="1120">in your in your wife,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1122">18:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1122" data-t="1122">in your girlfriend, you want her to be a little bit high maintenance, not too high maintenance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1129" data-t="1129">But you want her</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1131" data-t="1131">I I think the the high maintenance, what it is, is it it's a sense of self respect.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1136" data-t="1136">You know, she's gonna demand of you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1138" data-t="1138">to to actually be a man,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1141" data-t="1141">to listen forty hours Bitcoin podcast, to to actually take care of the family. A a wife that</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1148">19:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1148" data-t="1148">is too low maintenance</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1150">19:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1150" data-t="1150">probably means that she's checked out at the end of the day. Yeah. It's a guy like a Bitcoin miner. It's like, you all want it's too high maintenance. He won't whine. That's gonna it's gonna hash. It's gonna be dependable.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1162" data-t="1162">But, you know, it it it you also wanna be able to pay something that makes you pay attention. Because if you don't pay attention, you're you're gonna miss a lot of important details. Totally.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1171">19:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1171" data-t="1171">Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1174">19:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1174" data-t="1174">That</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1175" data-t="1175">another big thing, a lot of people liked the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1178" data-t="1178">the behind the podcast that we just did with Aaron Redwing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1182" data-t="1182">called,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1184" data-t="1184">you know, Sanford Pump to Use Ordinals Mode, kind of a provocative,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1189" data-t="1189">title. But it was really more about astrology. We we didn't want to scare people away. We didn't wanna scare our listeners away with a topic about astrology. So we thought we said that the episode was about ordinals.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1200">19:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1200" data-t="1200">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1202" data-t="1202">it was still it was still really good. It was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1204" data-t="1204">we got a lot of good feedback on that. And it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1208" data-t="1208">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1210" data-t="1210">I was expecting more outrage because the more people hated ordinals, the more I wanted to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1216" data-t="1216">you know, report on the news for it. But I think that we're just drove people crazy. But luckily, there wasn't too much of that. Yeah. I think a lot of our listeners, they</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1225">20:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1225" data-t="1225">I'll probably be hearing about it eventually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1228" data-t="1228">as I'm talking with them. I'm sure there were some that were upset about it, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1232" data-t="1232">I do think it was an interesting conversation.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1235" data-t="1235">It's a conversation that I wanna keep ongoing. One of the things that I'm excited about is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1241" data-t="1241">after we're done recording or or maybe when we were recording, I can't remember, but Aaron invited us to in Scribe in Vegas.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1249" data-t="1249">And so we're gonna be there. We we worked out a media partnership</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1252">20:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1252" data-t="1252">with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1255" data-t="1255">the Ordinals people.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1256" data-t="1256">And so we're gonna be there on the ground, reporting live, probably doing some live podcasting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1262" data-t="1262">Rod, myself, and Maggie Morris.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1265" data-t="1265">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1266" data-t="1266">I think it's gonna be</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1267">21:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1267" data-t="1267">it's gonna be pretty interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1270" data-t="1270">I'm,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1272" data-t="1272">I'm kinda I've never been to, like, a Bitcoin event like that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1276" data-t="1276">and I'm curious to see the types of people that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1280" data-t="1280">that show up to it. Are are they gonna be,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1286" data-t="1286">like, what what type of Bitcoiners are are we gonna see there? You know, one of the things that Aaron said is that there's gonna be more women than at the Bitcoin conference.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1295">21:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1295" data-t="1295">And so I'm curious to see if that claim is true or if she was just trying to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1302" data-t="1302">get the orange shells to show up or or if that was a marketing scheme. But I'm interested to see what what it's like on the ground.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1310">21:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1310" data-t="1310">Yeah. It's it'll be interesting, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1313" data-t="1313">Sometimes it's a trope in a movie or a TV show that somebody's, you know, in a part of town or in some area that they don't normally travel to.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1321" data-t="1321">And they, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1323" data-t="1323">wind up</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1324" data-t="1324">seeing, you know, the cop, you know, the commissioner of the police department</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1329" data-t="1329">show up and and and kiss a man in a gay bar.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1332">22:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1332" data-t="1332">And because he didn't know that anybody was gonna be there that recognized him. And it's almost gonna feel like I wonder for nobody's gonna expect the bugle</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1340" data-t="1340">to be at his describing Vegas. And is Terrence Yang gonna be trying to trade ordinals there not expecting to be found out or, you know, somebody else who's a closet,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1349" data-t="1349">you know, NFT enjoyer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1351" data-t="1351">So I think there's more out there. I think the ones who are the loudest against it</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1356">22:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1356" data-t="1356">are the most likely to dabble in the NFCs anyway. I think that's a that's a good point. I mean, are we gonna see Brady Swenson</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1362" data-t="1362">in disguise?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1365" data-t="1365">Are we gonna see Corey Clipson in a disguise? Who knows?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1369" data-t="1369">They we'll be very interesting to see. And we're going we're gonna be reporting live. We're gonna be live streaming,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1376" data-t="1376">from the event.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1377" data-t="1377">And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1379">22:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1379" data-t="1379">if you wanna come see us at the VM, we'll be right there, probably in the main area,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1384" data-t="1384">for you to interact with. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1386" data-t="1386">you know, I'm excited about Vegas in general.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1389" data-t="1389">I think later this week, probably on Tuesday, there's gonna be an announcement about one of the events that we're gonna be,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1398" data-t="1398">performing at</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1399" data-t="1399">on, Wednesday night on Fremont Street, and I'm excited about that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1406">23:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1406" data-t="1406">Hopefully, there'll be more events that we get roped into, but I don't have anything on the docket yet, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1413" data-t="1413">besides those two things. Yeah. I think Vegas will be cool. It's gonna be strange. It's always strange. I mean, the last conference was pretty strange.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1422" data-t="1422">I'm kind of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1424" data-t="1424">I'm kind of calling it the regulatory</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1427" data-t="1427">clarity conference. That's that's what it seems like the big topics are gonna be to me.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1432" data-t="1432">Dennis Porter rounded up all the politicians. All the politicians he's been lobbying are gonna be speaking there. There's gonna be a lot of there's gonna be less Bitcoiners speaking and more politicians speaking,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1442">24:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1442" data-t="1442">this year. That's one of the big trends that we're seeing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1446" data-t="1446">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1447" data-t="1447">there's probably gonna be TSA. There's probably gonna be Secret Service screening all the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1452" data-t="1452">all the speakers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1453" data-t="1453">And, that's a very different dynamic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1457" data-t="1457">than what we've seen at the majority of Bitcoin conference before. Like, I I remember the days where you could walk into the main stage without going through TSA.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1467">24:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1467" data-t="1467">It's like there's there's the Bitcoin conference before Donald Trump spoke, and then after Donald Trump spoke, and it's kinda like pre and post 09:11</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1475" data-t="1475">is the very similar feeling,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1478" data-t="1478">that the conference has. But we'll be there walking around,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1483" data-t="1483">shaking hands, doing some reporting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1486" data-t="1486">on the ground. I don't know if we'll be doing any live coverage from the conference. We kinda discussed that, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1493" data-t="1493">we'll have to see what the, logistics look like for that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1497">24:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1497" data-t="1497">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1498" data-t="1498">The conference is really this year especially,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1502" data-t="1502">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1503" data-t="1503">it's a great time for people to come together,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1507" data-t="1507">be in person and record Bitcoin podcasts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1511" data-t="1511">So forty hours per week listeners are gonna be even if you can't make it to the conference, you're gonna benefit from this conference.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1517">25:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1517" data-t="1517">And I think my prediction</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1520" data-t="1520">for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1521" data-t="1521">2025 in phase is there's gonna be a lot of announcements</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1525" data-t="1525">about new Bitcoin podcasts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1527" data-t="1527">There's gonna be a lot of people coming together talking about brokering a new deal,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1532" data-t="1532">forming a podcast,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1533">25:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1533" data-t="1533">forming a new podcast company,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1536" data-t="1536">announcing plans about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1538" data-t="1538">attempts to improve the user experience for Bitcoin podcasts and Bitcoin podcast listeners.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1545" data-t="1545">There's just gonna be a big</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1547" data-t="1547">emphasis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1548" data-t="1548">on Bitcoin podcasts</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1549">25:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1549" data-t="1549">bigger than that there has been in the past. And I think it's gonna be,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1553" data-t="1553">a big a big, big year</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1555" data-t="1555">after this conference for Bitcoin podcasts. And I I would say look for that and then look out for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1561" data-t="1561">for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1562" data-t="1562">the signal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1563" data-t="1563">Is this gonna be emanating from Vegas? Like, almost like they're gonna put a big podcast symbol</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1569">26:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1569" data-t="1569">on the sphere</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1570" data-t="1570">one of the days. That's what I think. I think it was the end. There's gonna be some great politicians,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1575" data-t="1575">and and and and and people in the government</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1578" data-t="1578">that are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1579" data-t="1579">gonna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1580" data-t="1580">be looking to to to spread their influence through Bitcoin podcasts, and it's gonna start</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1585">26:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1585" data-t="1585">in Vegas. That's one thing. If you're a Bitcoin podcaster,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1589" data-t="1589">we're gonna be in Vegas, you wanna interview us, I think we'll</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1593" data-t="1593">be down</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1594" data-t="1594">to go on just about anybody's Bitcoin podcast. Is there anybody that you wouldn't wanna go? Anybody's Bitcoin podcast you wouldn't do? No. I think</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1603">26:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1603" data-t="1603">I don't know. I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1604" data-t="1604">you could probably name some that I would be less</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1608" data-t="1608">enthusiastic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1609" data-t="1609">about doing. But I would like you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1612" data-t="1612">my message is gonna be the same for everybody. So I think that, I think that I'm open for just about any any interview, any challenge. Any debate? You wanna do some debate?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1622" data-t="1622">God wants to do a debate. I mean, he won't be there, but I would you know, I'd I'd still love to debate predator.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1630">27:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1630" data-t="1630">Anybody who, you know, maybe they just they had their feelings hurt by Maxi Madness, and they wanted to vent their frustration about,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1639" data-t="1639">Teddy Bitcoins ruining Maxi Madness</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1642" data-t="1642">or, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1644" data-t="1644">honestly, just any the some people hate Bitcoin podcast. We could debate the importance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1649" data-t="1649">of Bitcoin podcast and how</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1651" data-t="1651">Bitcoin podcast play a crucial role</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1654">27:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1654" data-t="1654">in securing the network. Yeah. Sounds pretty good to me. I'd be happy to debate people too. It'll it'll be interesting to see</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1662" data-t="1662">We'll probably record some interviews</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1664" data-t="1664">out there, I would imagine. We'll we'll just have to see. I think I think we're we're we don't have we've got, like, a few things planned, but we got we gotta land, get the lay of the land, figure out what's going on.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1675" data-t="1675">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1676" data-t="1676">we're not gonna tell the graph too much what we're up to, because we know the spooks are out there trying to mess with us. So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1683" data-t="1683">we're gonna keep them guessing. We're gonna keep them guessing.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1687">28:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1687" data-t="1687">But, yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1689" data-t="1689">Talking about some other stories</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1691" data-t="1691">this week,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1693" data-t="1693">there was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1695" data-t="1695">Jack Cruz.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1698" data-t="1698">He made a pretty bold claim. You know? Some people like other Barry were</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1703">28:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1703" data-t="1703">criticizing him. Nico from Simply Bitcoin was interviewing them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1707" data-t="1707">They were sitting down crisscrossing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1708" data-t="1708">the grass.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1710" data-t="1710">And,</span> <span class="cue" data-t="1710">some people noticed that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1712" data-t="1712">Jack Cruz was a little bit heavier set. Doesn't look like he's smoking enough cigarettes.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1717">28:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1717" data-t="1717">And, people like Elderberry</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1719" data-t="1719">were calling him out for it. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1723" data-t="1723">he responded</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1724" data-t="1724">with a very bold claim. He said, you know, I'm not,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1728" data-t="1728">fat because I eat too much. I just have tallow tallow gut.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1733" data-t="1733">What are your thoughts on that, Ron?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1735">28:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1735" data-t="1735">Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1736" data-t="1736">the the story,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1738" data-t="1738">to back up a little bit. Yeah. Simply Bitcoin, they were down in location in El Salvador again, and they were</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1745" data-t="1745">they're interviewing sensei,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1748" data-t="1748">Doctor. Jack Crews, one of the most respected,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1750" data-t="1750">you know, forty hours of Jack Crews podcast solves a lot of, you know, one people's health problems. He's very revered.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1758">29:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1758" data-t="1758">And Elder Barry</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1759" data-t="1759">noticed, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1761" data-t="1761">was teasing him. He was just teasing him saying that he had a beard gut. And it's like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1765" data-t="1765">I don't know if I'm gonna listen, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1768" data-t="1768">to medical advice</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1769" data-t="1769">from a doctor or or a Bitcoin podcaster. I think I'll probably just</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1774">29:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1774" data-t="1774">follow the person who's in best shape, and it was like it was a picture in Nikko</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1778" data-t="1778">next to doctor Cruz, and Nikko is in better shape. So it's like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1783" data-t="1783">wow. I'm gonna listen to Nikko's advice over doctor Cruz in this situation.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1788" data-t="1788">And by, you know, it's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1790" data-t="1790">doctor Cruz said he has a tallow belly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1792" data-t="1792">And he went on today to talk about</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1796">29:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1796" data-t="1796">seed oils and the people who are preaching the anti seed oil, you know, diets and health routines.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1802" data-t="1802">The seed oils are pretty much harmless</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1805" data-t="1805">because if you get enough sun,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1806" data-t="1806">it enables enables your body to use some words that probably, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1812" data-t="1812">people have to use a look up DonChat GPT</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1815" data-t="1815">and get a vague definition too. But he said that it did those those words to seed oils</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1821">30:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1821" data-t="1821">and it kinda made them basically harmless. It got them out of your body.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1827" data-t="1827">It's actually the tallow salesman in Bitcoin who are lying to you. Like, he's he's got a gut from the tallow, not the seed oils, not the beer, not the partying. It's just from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1836" data-t="1836">too much too much, too much tallow</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1839">30:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1839" data-t="1839">products. So pretty much is Kit SaaS fault. It's Golden Tallow Right. Kit SaaS fault that he he's a little bit,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1848" data-t="1848">I think the politically correct word would be,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1853">30:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1853" data-t="1853">Austin. Some people were saying some people were saying that, like, on podcasts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1857" data-t="1857">it looked</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1858" data-t="1858">like Doctor.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1861" data-t="1861">Cruz, you know, took the oil this number of Barn Liners said that, Kit Sats,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1866" data-t="1866">her tallow was pretty greasy and he was just pouring the oil all the you know, using that kind of like his sunscreen.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1872" data-t="1872">And then wherever was the tallow's left he was just like, you know, the way some people lick the, top of the ranch on the container when they're dipping their chicken nuggets. He did that with the tallow. This is like he does that every day.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1884">31:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1884" data-t="1884">He just looks like a crazy tallow.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1887" data-t="1887">Tallow, you know, a tallow whale. He's like a tallow tiger.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1890" data-t="1890">Roman, the El Salvadorian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1892" data-t="1892">forest, the tallow tigers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1893" data-t="1893">they know he's there because all the leaves are creasy with tallow. Creasy kitsets tallow.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1898" data-t="1898">It's like a slug going through the going through the jungle. But, you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1903">31:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1903" data-t="1903">he does have medical credentials. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1906" data-t="1906">all we're saying is, you know, live up to your credentials. Don't rest on them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1911" data-t="1911">Don't try to be, you know, given out medical advice if you have a tallow belly. Well, you know, I think his medical advice is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1918">31:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1918" data-t="1918">still sound.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1919" data-t="1919">You know, there's a lot more about might he paid attention and Tell me. Let me let me let me rephrase.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1925">32:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1925" data-t="1925">Don't get so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1927" data-t="1927">don't get so offended</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1929" data-t="1929">when a plant,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1930" data-t="1930">you know, questions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1932" data-t="1932">your medical advice because you have a tallow belly. Just explain why you have a tallow belly. Explain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1938" data-t="1938">that El Salvador</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1940">32:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1940" data-t="1940">has</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1941" data-t="1941">bad protections on their electromagnetic forces in their health care facilities and the AGM is your thyroid</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1946" data-t="1946">and that's why you you know that people might have tallow bellies.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1950" data-t="1950">Just explain it. As long as we know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1954" data-t="1954">we'll go back to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1955" data-t="1955">you know, wanting to hear about how methylene blue is a really good settlement. Yeah. It's just about it's about open sourcing</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1962">32:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1962" data-t="1962">the information properly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1964" data-t="1964">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1966" data-t="1966">I mean, it's part of the reason I I think, like, you know, people like Elderberry, they they don't listen to forty hours Jack Crews podcast a week. So they're just they're not aware</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1976" data-t="1976">of these things. And and if they did, I mean, I I think he probably gets frustrated having to explain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1983" data-t="1983">the cliff notes to people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1986" data-t="1986">of what's going on.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1987">33:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1987" data-t="1987">You know what I mean? And I kinda Well, I doubt it. Sometimes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1990" data-t="1990">Like, I I just I don't wanna keep on rehashing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1994" data-t="1994">these ideas for people that that don't put in the proof of work. If you're if you're not listening, then I don't have time to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2002" data-t="2002">sit down and mansplain everything to you over and over again.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2006">33:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2006" data-t="2006">Yeah. And that also goes for some of the people out there. Think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2010" data-t="2010">about if you're a podcaster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2012" data-t="2012">or you have a YouTube channel, think about the YouTube</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2015" data-t="2015">thumbnails you're using. Think about the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2018" data-t="2018">headlines</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2019" data-t="2019">or the titles for your podcast or your videos that you're using. Think about the bullet points</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2025">33:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2025" data-t="2025">that people are going to come to people like myself, go to people like Richard or, you know, any of you forty hours per week listeners out there. People are gonna know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2034" data-t="2034">they're gonna see these sensational headlines and these sensational,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2038" data-t="2038">cliff you know, these bookmarks and cliff notes, and they're gonna ask us about it. And then we have to explain. It's like, no. No. No. That sounds crazy, but this is why it's actually a thermodynamically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2048" data-t="2048">sound,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2049" data-t="2049">idea.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2051" data-t="2051">But,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2052">34:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2052" data-t="2052">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2053" data-t="2053">it's it's just really hard to explain when it's so sensational or you just said, why is this greasy towel belly guy telling me to take all these crazy pills?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2063" data-t="2063">It's like, well, listen. Listen. It's good for you. It's good for you, but you have to listen to forty hours</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2068">34:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2068" data-t="2068">of this guy's podcast for you to understand why. Totally. Yeah. I mean, it's like when, Jerry Calvrone is talking about the wonders of Scientology,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2077" data-t="2077">for example. His his brother,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2080" data-t="2080">Brandt, is gonna be talking at the Bitcoin conference.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2083" data-t="2083">Fun facts. So there's gonna be some,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2086" data-t="2086">Scientology presence, which I think is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2090" data-t="2090">Hell yeah. Positive. I mean, I think the great thing, you know, Scientology, a lot of people complain about it because,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2098">34:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2098" data-t="2098">it's expensive.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2100" data-t="2100">And a lot of people, they they can't afford their Scientology</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2103" data-t="2103">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2104" data-t="2104">their taxes at the same time. And the the Church of Scientology, this is an ongoing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2110" data-t="2110">I I don't know why these guys,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2113" data-t="2113">they go off about this so much, but they constantly talk about the how the Church of Scientology doesn't,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2119">35:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2119" data-t="2119">pay taxes. But they're,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2121" data-t="2121">all the churches don't pay taxes. I mean, that's part of religious freedoms in The US.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2126" data-t="2126">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2128" data-t="2128">but that's that's something the libs like to go on and on about. Like, it's like it's some sort of, like, gotcha. Like, oh, you don't pay your taxes. But, like, you know, a lot of critics of Scientology, they they criticize it because the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2142" data-t="2142">the actual, like, church members,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2145" data-t="2145">have trouble paying taxes. But that's why it's so great that,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2149">35:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2149" data-t="2149">the Scientologists are starting to come to the Bitcoin conference is because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2154" data-t="2154">that's not an issue at the Bitcoin conference because people listen to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2158" data-t="2158">enough podcast to be able to afford their taxes. It's not a it's not a problem in this ecosystem. So they can they can afford their,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2166" data-t="2166">their Scientology</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2168" data-t="2168">fees,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2169" data-t="2169">in order</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2170">36:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2170" data-t="2170">to get their,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2172" data-t="2172">spiritual direction that they need in life. And I I think that's a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2176" data-t="2176">that's a good thing. It's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2178" data-t="2178">I I think onboarding Scientology, I've been I've been kinda critical of Jerry and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2183" data-t="2183">and Brandt, Cal Brown, because they have yet to orange pill Scientology</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2187" data-t="2187">even though they're</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2189">36:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2189" data-t="2189">the orange pillars. And it you know, if you're if you're a Bitcoiner</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2193" data-t="2193">and you haven't orange peeled your church yet,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2196" data-t="2196">I think it's a really serious thing that you should take to heart. Like, you should be out there. You should be talking to your pastors. You should be talking to your church leadership.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2204" data-t="2204">I think they should be having,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2207" data-t="2207">I've yet to see any Scientology Bitcoin podcast yet, which I think is disappointing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2212" data-t="2212">I think that would be pretty cool. I think David Miscavige</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2216">36:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2216" data-t="2216">starting a Bitcoin podcast would be, you know, really, really bullish.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2220" data-t="2220">But I'm excited about that. I mean, do you do you think you're gonna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2225" data-t="2225">are you gonna do, auditing session in Vegas?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2228" data-t="2228">Do you think they're gonna be offering that at the conference? I don't know. I I</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2233">37:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2233" data-t="2233">I had to first stay away from the Scientologists,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2236" data-t="2236">just because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2238" data-t="2238">I did I just don't respect</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2240" data-t="2240">I mean, they do make some pretty good they have some good actors, and there's some good movies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2245" data-t="2245">that Scientologists,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2246" data-t="2246">are behind. But I I still think that,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2251">37:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2251" data-t="2251">the Jews make better movies in Hollywood, so I'd rather I'd rather spend my time around Jews</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2256" data-t="2256">in Vegas than Scientologists.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2258" data-t="2258">I think it's just a better way to spend my time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2261" data-t="2261">They're better about show business. They're better with money. They're better</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2265" data-t="2265">with a lot of things. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2268" data-t="2268">I just there's more to learn from the Jews than than there is from the Scientologist. If I'm if I'm if I'm on Twitter and I'm looking at a choice between two spaces</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2276">37:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2276" data-t="2276">or, you know, two rooms on Clubhouse. One that's being,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2280" data-t="2280">hosted by a Scientologist,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2282" data-t="2282">one that's being hosted by a Jew.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2284" data-t="2284">I I just I'm most I'm more interested in going to the space hosted by the Jew. I think there's just more signal there. And I think that they have a better understanding of what is money, what is entertainment,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2295" data-t="2295">what is beauty,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2297" data-t="2297">Who are who are hot women that should be in movies? I just I think that they have a</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2301">38:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2301" data-t="2301">it's a more thermodynamically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2302" data-t="2302">sound approach</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2303" data-t="2303">to the the the protocol of life.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2306">38:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2306" data-t="2306">Well, yeah. That that's an interesting framing and kind of comparison. And I I don't even think that's it's much of a I don't think it's a fair comparison</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2316" data-t="2316">because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2317" data-t="2317">yeah. I mean, we all know that the Jews are better at everything than the Scientologist</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2321" data-t="2321">at the end of the day. Like, even the Scientologist</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2324" data-t="2324">admit this because they, like, they got their religious exemption from the IRS by using Jewish lawyers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2333" data-t="2333">And they use Jewish accountants. They use they like, I think they feel the same way. I think they think the Jews are better than Scientologists</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2341">39:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2341" data-t="2341">as well.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2343">39:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2343" data-t="2343">That's a good point. So but It's only that. It's just me a bit of it. It's like shit corners. It's like people who say that, yes, Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2349" data-t="2349">is more secure network. Bitcoin is the long term value. But I'm still interested</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2355" data-t="2355">in these, you know, these doodads and these little contracts and these, you know, experiments that they're doing on on this shit shitcoin chain on this other Blockchain. It's proof of Stake chain.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2367" data-t="2367">And it's like, alright, like, I'm not I'm not gonna judge you if that's how you feel as long as you understand that like Bitcoin is still the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2375" data-t="2375">the base chain for everything.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2377" data-t="2377">But it's just I would rather listen to Bitcoin podcast than experiment with shit coin podcast.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2383">39:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2383" data-t="2383">So if I'm hanging out with people in Vegas, I'd rather hang out with Jews than than Scientologists.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2389" data-t="2389">I don't think there's I don't think Scientologists can't have interesting parties. I don't think that Scientologists can't have interesting discussions or podcasts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2396" data-t="2396">I just think that, you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2399">39:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2399" data-t="2399">there's no there's no value for that for me. It's definitely something that I wanna pay attention to and report on is, are there gonna be high profile of Scientologists there? Is there gonna be,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2410" data-t="2410">is Tom Cruise gonna be there? Is David McCat Miscavige gonna be there?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2416" data-t="2416">We know that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2417" data-t="2417">the Cal Burns will be there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2419" data-t="2419">It'll be interesting. No.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2421">40:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2421" data-t="2421">I I wish somebody would make, like, a dominance a dominance chart. One of the of the Bitcoin dominance chart. I wish they would have one for religion. Like, which one is a Christianity? Is Judaism? Is it Islam? We always saw Scientology, but it would be Scientology would be somewhere</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2435" data-t="2435">on on the chart. But it's like, what is the the influence or the value of, like, Judaism to Christianity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2441" data-t="2441">to Islam?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2442">40:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2442" data-t="2442">Like, what are the what are those rankings? And where are they historically? Definitely. Well, one of the things that I was tweeting about this week is I I do think that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2451" data-t="2451">one thing that we're gonna see this year is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2454" data-t="2454">Bitcoin maximalism</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2455" data-t="2455">will become a dominant world</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2458" data-t="2458">religion,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2459" data-t="2459">and will be viewed alongside,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2464">41:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2464" data-t="2464">other dominant world religions like Judaism and Islam.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2468" data-t="2468">And I think that's something that we're gonna see from this conference. And and that's kinda one of the the things that I think will be interesting is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2477" data-t="2477">you know, there there's, like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2479" data-t="2479">I mean, you don't really see Christian Muslims. You know what I mean? You don't see,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2484" data-t="2484">you do see Jewish Christians, you know, because the thing about,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2489" data-t="2489">Judaism is or</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2491">41:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2491" data-t="2491">it it's it's not just a religion. It's it's also</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2494" data-t="2494">an ethnic group.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2497" data-t="2497">I'm pretty sure there's probably Jewish Muslims, but I I just haven't really heard of that. I think both of those,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2504" data-t="2504">groups are oftentimes kind of opposed to each other, but we know there's a bunch of Muslims in Israel, for example, that are probably Israeli citizens.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2513" data-t="2513">But is there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2516" data-t="2516">ever going to be kind of</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2520">41:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2520" data-t="2520">a tension between Bitcoin maximalism and the other major religions?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2524" data-t="2524">I don't know. Well,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2526">42:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2526" data-t="2526">yeah, that it's will it come down to a war?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2529" data-t="2529">Will,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2530" data-t="2530">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2531" data-t="2531">who and who will fight for which side because it's like, you know, in the civil war,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2537" data-t="2537">you had people like cousins, brothers, people of their own family and some of these areas</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2542" data-t="2542">kind of in the middle of the boundary,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2544">42:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2544" data-t="2544">they're fighting against each other. And it's like you might have Christians who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2549" data-t="2549">that cross the chasm and they fight for Bitcoin. You might have Bitcoiners who are like, I think Christianity is more important.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2556" data-t="2556">He's might have some of these battles, and it it was just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2559" data-t="2559">substitute Christianity for Judaism, a substitute,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2563" data-t="2563">Christianity for Buddhism,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2564" data-t="2564">just depending on on</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2567">42:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2567" data-t="2567">which meetup you go to around the world. It definitely is a very nuanced</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2572">42:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2572" data-t="2572">topic, and I know there's a lot of people with a lot of differing views, and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2576" data-t="2576">and we'll have to see.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2578" data-t="2578">Do you know, is there gonna be a thank God for Bitcoin event this year? I I haven't heard anything about it. Let me look that up. That's interesting. I wonder if,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2587">43:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2587" data-t="2587">Breedlove will be attending. He's common at those. Is Breedlove gonna be eating,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2592">43:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2592" data-t="2592">bull testicles</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2593">43:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2593" data-t="2593">at the thank God for Bitcoin? Oh, yeah. Of course this year.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2597" data-t="2597">It looks like, no, the latest one is for 2024.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2602" data-t="2602">So there's nothing about Vegas</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2605" data-t="2605">on their website right now. So I doubt it. Could that be indicative that,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2610">43:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2610" data-t="2610">many of the Christian Bitcoiners are are substituting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2613" data-t="2613">Christianity for Bitcoin maximalism as their, kind of Interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2619" data-t="2619">Interesting. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2621">43:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2621" data-t="2621">The activity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2623" data-t="2623">around some of these</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2624" data-t="2624">Christian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2626" data-t="2626">Bitcoin podcast, Christian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2628" data-t="2628">Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2629" data-t="2629">you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2630">43:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2630" data-t="2630">movements,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2631" data-t="2631">nonprofits,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2632" data-t="2632">educational things. It seems like their</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2634" data-t="2634">activity on the timeline is decreased. And it it's almost like Christianity was a,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2640" data-t="2640">like, a a gateway religion into Bitcoin maximalism.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2644">44:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2644" data-t="2644">Well, that's pretty much what I got from reading reading their book.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2648" data-t="2648">Did you ever read that book? Thank God for Bitcoin?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2651">44:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2651" data-t="2651">No. I didn't read it. No. Or,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2654" data-t="2654">did they have a book or was this just a podcast for Thank God for Noister? Yeah. It was a book. They they wrote a book.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2660">44:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2660" data-t="2660">Robert Breedlove was one of the main authors. It was like Robert Breedlove and Jimmy Song and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2666" data-t="2666">Jordan Bush and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2670" data-t="2670">what's her name? Julia</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2673" data-t="2673">Tarinsky?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2675" data-t="2675">She the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2676" data-t="2676">goose poster?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2677">44:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2677" data-t="2677">Goose lady?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2679">44:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2679" data-t="2679">Oh, yeah. Interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2681" data-t="2681">I know. I never read that book.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2684" data-t="2684">Do they have Guy Swan,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2686">44:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2686" data-t="2686">they quit Audible version? That's a good question. I'll I don't know. Probably.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2691" data-t="2691">I know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2692" data-t="2692">Walker's been trying to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2695" data-t="2695">challenge Guy Swan</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2697">44:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2697" data-t="2697">as being the premier audiobook guy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2703" data-t="2703">it seems like guys</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2705" data-t="2705">kinda more interested these days</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2707" data-t="2707">in AI artificial intelligence.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2710" data-t="2710">So maybe he's just moved on to to that and and Walker kind of could take over. Now this is interesting. So in the mining industry, this just floated</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2719">45:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2719" data-t="2719">floated thought in my head. One of one of the things that it seems like a lot of the Bitcoin miners have been doing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2724" data-t="2724">is they've been pivoting away from mining as much into</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2730" data-t="2730">a few things. They're they're Bitcoin buyers, so they're trying to copy Michael Saylor. So Jack Mallers and maybe this is a good segue into the next,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2737" data-t="2737">Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna talk about. But Jack Mallers is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2741" data-t="2741">running a copycat company of MicroStrategy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2744" data-t="2744">with Tether.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2746">45:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2746" data-t="2746">So they're they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2748" data-t="2748">also trying to use, dollars to make Bitcoin stronger. They're they're following Corey's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2754" data-t="2754">failed attempt at doing that. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2758" data-t="2758">now my question before we get too much into that topic,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2762" data-t="2762">Rod, is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2764" data-t="2764">are the Bitaxers</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2766">46:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2766" data-t="2766">are they eventually gonna pivot into AI in the same way the Bitcoin miners are? That'd be interesting to have, like, a a Bitax</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2773">46:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2773" data-t="2773">GPU farm.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2776" data-t="2776">It would be it would be huge. It would help power some of the decentralized they could</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2781" data-t="2781">help power some of these decentralized</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2784" data-t="2784">open source,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2786" data-t="2786">AI models, or they could just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2789" data-t="2789">basically sell</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2790">46:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2790" data-t="2790">their hash or whatever their compute</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2794" data-t="2794">to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2795" data-t="2795">you know, to the bit to OpenAI</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2797" data-t="2797">or to Google Gemini.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2799" data-t="2799">Be interesting. I well, do you have a take on it? Well, I think Guy Swan is definitely</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2805">46:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2805" data-t="2805">kind of a leading indicator</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2806" data-t="2806">of these types of trends.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2809" data-t="2809">He's been a very,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2811" data-t="2811">influential and progressive guy in the industry</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2814" data-t="2814">for a long time. And so he's pivoted,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2817" data-t="2817">which means that, you know, the bit axers, I I would say they're they're kinda late to the party. You know what I mean?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2824">47:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2824" data-t="2824">They just recently started getting into the mix,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2828" data-t="2828">with this project. There's there's been other things that have been going for a while, but I do know that the start nine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2834" data-t="2834">has some AI functionality</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2836" data-t="2836">on it, so that you can run your own local self hosted,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2841" data-t="2841">AI on there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2843" data-t="2843">So I think that the groundwork</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2846">47:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2846" data-t="2846">is being laid</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2848" data-t="2848">for the BitAxers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2849" data-t="2849">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2851" data-t="2851">it it's it's a very similar mission. It's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2855" data-t="2855">you know, the BitAxers, they wanna decentralize,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2858" data-t="2858">mining compute,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2860">47:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2860" data-t="2860">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2862" data-t="2862">I don't see why they're wanting to decentralize</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2864" data-t="2864">AI compute too.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2866">47:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2866" data-t="2866">Yeah. I mean, it's it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2868" data-t="2868">you have, like, the homesteaders</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2869" data-t="2869">who are, like, they try to be very self sufficient.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2872" data-t="2872">And being able</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2874" data-t="2874">to have a start you know, have a homestead,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2877" data-t="2877">use</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2878">47:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2878" data-t="2878">ASICs Bitcoin miners to, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2881" data-t="2881">try your to heat your boiling for your maple syrup, to dry your marijuana leaves, to heat your cabin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2889" data-t="2889">and to use, like, you know, bid access for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2894" data-t="2894">being able to run the compute so you can have self sustained compute for your AI models,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2899" data-t="2899">on your homesteads. So you don't have to connect to the cloud and use Google. You can be self sufficient. So that's, you know, and then you have your you can have your three d printer. You can make three d you could three d print cruise. It's creating. You can three d print guns.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2913" data-t="2913">You can three d print tallow.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2916">48:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2916" data-t="2916">It's you know, if you don't have cows, it's it'll be incredible. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2921" data-t="2921">to tether this you know, no pun intended. Tether this back to the, the Jack Mallers news.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2928" data-t="2928">It</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2930" data-t="2930">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2931" data-t="2931">these miners, whether they pivot to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2934" data-t="2934">doing AI compute or they pivot to buying Bitcoin,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2938">48:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2938" data-t="2938">the big news is definitely that they're pivoting to buy Bitcoin here because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2942" data-t="2942">what happened was Jack Mallers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2944" data-t="2944">he comes out and makes his announcement.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2946" data-t="2946">He's announces he's now a soup coiner. He's basically gonna challenge Michael Sailor. He's gonna be talking and making up new acronyms like and now Bitcoins per share</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2956" data-t="2956">things like that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2957" data-t="2957">And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2959">49:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2959" data-t="2959">but when he came out of his suit, he finally took off his hoodie and we saw that he had been concealing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2965" data-t="2965">his broccoli haircut from us this whole time. And a lot of people you know, it's not legal to have a broccoli haircut, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2972" data-t="2972">it tells you a lot about a person. So a lot of us had just gotten to know Jack</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2977" data-t="2977">Jack Mallers, and we didn't realize he was a broccoli haircut. But worst of all, he's a broccoli haircut now in a suit. And I've talked about how I thought the broccoli haircuts were gonna leverage AI</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2988" data-t="2988">to leap past</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2990" data-t="2990">millennials and Gen X and take over all the wealth from the boomers and to call it like to use AI to to accumulate it all.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2998">49:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2998" data-t="2998">But But we can think we had to worry about that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3001" data-t="3001">so soon. We thought May's 10 down the road, kinda like quantum computing. It's like it's gonna be a problem. We'll fumble hard fork in thirty years. In ten years,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3009" data-t="3009">we thought we could deal with the broccoli haircut at suits, The broccoli haircut at suit coiners</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3016" data-t="3016">ten years from now, but now it's too late. There there already is one, and he's got 40, you know, 2,000 Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3024" data-t="3024">being seeded by Cantor Fitzgerald.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3026" data-t="3026">Tether's got Bitcoin. They've got a lot of mining.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3030">50:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3030" data-t="3030">This</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3031" data-t="3031">this Broccoli haircuted Zoomer he's not a Zoomer, but he's a Broccoli haircut and his Seedcoiner.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3037" data-t="3037">What what kind of risk does that add to the network? Some people like Plater, they're saying this is an attack on Bitcoin. And if you look at it through this lens, it could be perceived as such. It it definitely poses a risk, and I it it's a risk that I think most of us are feeling blindsided by. Like, we we were not</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3054">50:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3054" data-t="3054">We ran the game theory</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3056" data-t="3056">over and over again.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3058" data-t="3058">But the problem with running simulations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3061" data-t="3061">on a pet potential attack vectors is that 99%</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3065" data-t="3065">of the time, the way that reality plays out is not the way that you planned for.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3070" data-t="3070">And so,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3071">51:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3071" data-t="3071">what we have to be is we have to be dynamic, we have to be,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3075" data-t="3075">flexible</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3077" data-t="3077">with our projections,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3078" data-t="3078">with our strategies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3080" data-t="3080">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3081" data-t="3081">I do think it's a major concern. I I find this to be a very concerning development</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3086">51:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3086" data-t="3086">that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3088" data-t="3088">Jack Mallers is rocking a broccoli haircut.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3091" data-t="3091">And not only that, that that Tether thinks it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3096" data-t="3096">in Cantor Fitzgerald think that it's responsible</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3099" data-t="3099">to have a CEO of their company with a broccoli haircut. I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3103" data-t="3103">that is very, very concerning,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3106">51:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3106" data-t="3106">to me.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3107" data-t="3107">And it it really quite makes me question their</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3111" data-t="3111">decision making capabilities.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3113" data-t="3113">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3114" data-t="3114">if we if we have people that don't have sound</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3117" data-t="3117">decision making capabilities</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3120">51:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3120" data-t="3120">holding this much Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3122" data-t="3122">and running these these very profitable companies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3126" data-t="3126">I'm bearish</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3128" data-t="3128">for Yeah. Future. And Not entirely.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3131">52:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3131" data-t="3131">The</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3132" data-t="3132">and the the tie time is running out to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3137" data-t="3137">podcast about this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3138" data-t="3138">You know, Mark Goodwin's been ahead of this. Look at Mark Goodwin's tweets. He's he's got a lot of warnings about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3144" data-t="3144">why this is not a positive development that many people seem to believe that it is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3150" data-t="3150">But</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3151">52:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3151" data-t="3151">there's still time to to educate people and want them know that it's time to be a little bit concerned, and it's just time to take preparation to mitigate some of these risks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3161" data-t="3161">And 04/21,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3163" data-t="3163">which is the name of their new venture,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3166" data-t="3166">successfully completes changing all the strike emojis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3170" data-t="3170">on the GIFs on the strike watermarks on the GIFs,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3173" data-t="3173">all the Giphy Bitcoin GIFs on Twitter to the new 21</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3177">52:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3177" data-t="3177">splash mark. Because once the once the watermark memes are proliferated throughout</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3183" data-t="3183">the use on Twitter, it's gonna be nearly impossible to convince people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3188" data-t="3188">that that 21 poses this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3190" data-t="3190">potential risk, and it's the risk of the broccoli haircut CEO.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3195" data-t="3195">Maybe on the CIA, or maybe that's the new symbol of the broccoli haircut. I don't know. I'm worried.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3201">53:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3201" data-t="3201">I'm not like I don't think it's gonna be catastrophic, but I I do think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3207" data-t="3207">like, we we should have known from looking at Sam Bankman Fried's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3212" data-t="3212">floppy haircut, his</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3214" data-t="3214">you know, a lot of people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3216" data-t="3216">like, the the one positive thing about Jack Mallers is he's deciding to wear a suit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3222" data-t="3222">But</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3223">53:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3223" data-t="3223">when we were watching Sam Bankman Fried running around in basketball shorts and a t shirt last cycle,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3228" data-t="3228">That should</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3230" data-t="3230">have thrown up some major alarm bells.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3232">53:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3232" data-t="3232">Here's the thing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3234" data-t="3234">We we see Sam Bankman Fried's chufro,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3238" data-t="3238">and that's a warning. It's a warning from nature</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3241" data-t="3241">that that that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3242" data-t="3242">be wary of this guy's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3244" data-t="3244">you know, exchange. But the broccoli haircut</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3247">54:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3247" data-t="3247">is kind of like it's kinda like that fro in disguise.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3251" data-t="3251">But now but, you know, to look for it. It's like you see a Sam being in Fried or Jack Mallers, which is the the fro with the cut on the sides.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3260" data-t="3260">Red</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3261" data-t="3261">flags just go up for you. There's there's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3264" data-t="3264">there's always people behind the guy with the whether it's the full broccoli haircut or, you know, just the</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3272">54:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3272" data-t="3272">the but you the the military grade broccoli haircut. The high and tight broccoli haircut. I think right now it's it's important to have your, just to be suspicious, to be asking a lot of questions, to be poking around, to,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3285">54:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3285" data-t="3285">Just yeah. Just just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3287" data-t="3287">be on the lookout and be ready to notice broccoli haircuts.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3291">54:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3291" data-t="3291">Just notice them. Yeah. There there's been a general lack of scrutiny on Michael Sailor.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3297" data-t="3297">Nobody's really asked him to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3300" data-t="3300">actually prove that he has the Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3303" data-t="3303">that he has to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3304" data-t="3304">to actually, you know, try and audit him.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3307" data-t="3307">And I don't think we should</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3309">55:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3309" data-t="3309">give Jack Mallers the same treatment, you know. And part of the reason why I don't think Michael Sailor has gotten that scrutiny is because he does wear a suit,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3317" data-t="3317">and he has an adult haircut, whereas Mallers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3321" data-t="3321">doesn't.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3322" data-t="3322">And we need to be we I I think it's important as a community to not just, like, allow another,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3329" data-t="3329">say, embankment free to run</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3331" data-t="3331">wild</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3332">55:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3332" data-t="3332">and and totally shit on our cycle.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3335" data-t="3335">Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3336" data-t="3336">you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3338" data-t="3338">it's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3340" data-t="3340">these are the types of things that could could totally prevent the god candle from happening. It's, you know, we read about this all the time in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3347" data-t="3347">in</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3348">55:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3348" data-t="3348">the bible, you know, in the old testament. I I feel like the broccoli haircut is kinda like the golden calf.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3354" data-t="3354">You worship the guy with the broccoli haircut. You're worshiping</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3358" data-t="3358">the golden calf, and God God is going to respond with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3363" data-t="3363">his wrath.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3364" data-t="3364">And he's going to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3366" data-t="3366">bring a bear market like no other.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3369">56:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3369" data-t="3369">It's gonna be devastating. We're gonna be back at fifty one eight or fifty eight k</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3374" data-t="3374">because of broccoli haircuts. If if people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3378" data-t="3378">practice this type of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3380" data-t="3380">idolatry with Jack Mallers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3384" data-t="3384">But I think it can be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3387" data-t="3387">mitigated. Or this</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3388">56:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3388" data-t="3388">you know, a lot a lot about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3390" data-t="3390">what Bitcoin is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3392" data-t="3392">is risk mitigation. This is something that, Pierre Morgan talk about on their podcast. They talk about risk mitigation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3399" data-t="3399">a lot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3401" data-t="3401">And scrutiny,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3403" data-t="3403">asking questions,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3405">56:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3405" data-t="3405">occasionally</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3406" data-t="3406">using a a a mean tweet,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3410" data-t="3410">that's a that's a good way to mitigate some risk.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3414" data-t="3414">And I would implore listeners to just,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3417" data-t="3417">you know, have their brains turned on,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3420" data-t="3420">be asking questions,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3421">57:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3421" data-t="3421">be asking a lot of questions. Maybe maybe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3424" data-t="3424">we shouldn't give</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3426" data-t="3426">Jack Mallers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3427" data-t="3427">the same pass that we've given Michael Sailor be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3431" data-t="3431">until he cuts his care,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3433" data-t="3433">until he has a grown up haircut.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3435">57:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3435" data-t="3435">Yeah. If you wanna if you wanna be taken, sir, you know, this goes to Tether as well.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3440" data-t="3440">Tether's really trying to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3443" data-t="3443">improve their reputation and kind of set the stage. They're they're serious</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3448" data-t="3448">company who cares about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3450" data-t="3450">the risks to the systemic system.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3453" data-t="3453">If you want if you wanna be taken seriously like that, you have to prove it to us. If you wanna be taken seriously, put on a suit, cut your hair,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3462">57:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3462" data-t="3462">throw the the, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3465" data-t="3465">the cargo shorts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3467" data-t="3467">take those to goodwill</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3469">57:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3469" data-t="3469">and and and show us that you're serious. Yeah. We're not playing games here. This this is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3475" data-t="3475">some pretty serious stuff.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3478" data-t="3478">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3479" data-t="3479">yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3481" data-t="3481">Well, you got any,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3483" data-t="3483">closing thoughts before we head over to the</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3487">58:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3487" data-t="3487">the fountain bush? No. I'll take so. I think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3491" data-t="3491">it's a good episode. Good talk. I think that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3496" data-t="3496">if you wanna if you wanna if you wanna work with us, you wanna connect</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3500" data-t="3500">in Vegas,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3502" data-t="3502">start making plans now because it's a hectic time when you get to Vegas to to try to connect.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3508" data-t="3508">And also,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3510">58:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3510" data-t="3510">other news,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3511" data-t="3511">check out, orangelabel.co.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3514" data-t="3514">You just added some more t shirts. We got,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3517" data-t="3517">two or three</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3519" data-t="3519">new</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3520" data-t="3520">when Alden is hot,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3522">58:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3522" data-t="3522">designs as well as the entropy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3524" data-t="3524">of a Bitcoin podcast entropy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3527" data-t="3527">t shirt.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3528" data-t="3528">So check those out. It'd be awesome to see</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3531" data-t="3531">forty hour per week,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3534" data-t="3534">when Alden is hot, whatever,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3536">58:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3536" data-t="3536">pledge zone parade between each other, those t shirts out in the wild in Vegas. Yeah. I guess one of the things let's look at the this transaction fees are pretty low right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3544" data-t="3544">We're at</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3545" data-t="3545">three sets of eBuy right now,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3548" data-t="3548">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3549" data-t="3549">I wouldn't I wouldn't plan on the transaction fees being low in Vegas. And one of the things that we're gonna be doing, we're gonna be selling stuff in Vegas.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3558" data-t="3558">You're gonna have the opportunity to buy non KYC cigarettes from me. I'm gonna be,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3563">59:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3563" data-t="3563">autographing signs or sorry, packs of Marlboro Reds.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3567" data-t="3567">We're gonna be selling t shirts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3569" data-t="3569">Potentially, we could be autographing t shirts for people if people want that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3573" data-t="3573">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3575" data-t="3575">the fees might spike,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3577" data-t="3577">you know, because there might be some major, major announcements. David Bailey, he's gonna bring some pretty big announcements. That's what I'm predicting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3586">59:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3586" data-t="3586">For the conference,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3587" data-t="3587">some bullish announcements.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3590" data-t="3590">The fees could be spiking. And so if you're going there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3593" data-t="3593">planning on buying</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3595" data-t="3595">stuff on chain,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3597" data-t="3597">maybe now is the time to open some lightning channels,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3601">1:00:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3601" data-t="3601">make sure you have enough outbound liquidity, and I'm kind of in the same boat right now where I might have to increase my</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3608" data-t="3608">my inbound liquidity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3609" data-t="3609">and, do some channel rebalancing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3612" data-t="3612">in preparation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3613" data-t="3613">for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3614" data-t="3614">potentially a high fee environment. We'll we'll see see if anything comes from the ordinals conference. The ordinals people, they're gonna be trying to spike the fees,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3622">1:00:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3622" data-t="3622">by spamming the network.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3625">1:00:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3625" data-t="3625">And for those of you who barely understand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3627" data-t="3627">what he's talking about or why he has to do that, You still have time to watch forty hours,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3633" data-t="3633">BTC sessions, lightning node tutorials.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3636" data-t="3636">So you can get this set up and you can actually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3640" data-t="3640">do</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3641" data-t="3641">lightning transactions from your own lightning node from your own channels</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3644">1:00:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3644" data-t="3644">on Zeus or Phoenix or some of these other wallets. So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3649" data-t="3649">hit on that because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3651" data-t="3651">you might want back of smokes, gone k y c smokes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3654" data-t="3654">Well, that's part of the revolution, and the revolution won't have to do so you gotta be prepared. One of the other challenges too is,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3661">1:01:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3661" data-t="3661">if you're banking on using your custodial lightning wallet because you don't wanna deal with channel management whatsoever,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3669" data-t="3669">check and see if Vegas is a or Nevada is a a friendly location because I know some of these custodial lightning wallets, they will not let you use your serve their services in certain states.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3682" data-t="3682">We experienced</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3683" data-t="3683">this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3684" data-t="3684">in Florida,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3686" data-t="3686">with Zebedee.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3688">1:01:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3688" data-t="3688">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3689" data-t="3689">that's kind of a bummer when you go to a Bitcoin conference and you're planning on using transactional</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3694" data-t="3694">or sorry, custodial lightning.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3696" data-t="3696">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3698" data-t="3698">now you're having to figure out how to download a VPN just to be able to send a custodial lightning transaction. There's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3704" data-t="3704">there's gonna be a lot of challenges, so just make sure to to game plan</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3709">1:01:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3709" data-t="3709">beforehand.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3710" data-t="3710">And I I would say, you know, for the person listening that says,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3715" data-t="3715">well, I'm not gonna spend any Bitcoin at the conference. Like, well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3720" data-t="3720">the whole point of going to a conference is to spend Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3725" data-t="3725">We're gonna give you compelling reasons to spend Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3728" data-t="3728">We want you to give us Bitcoin,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3730">1:02:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3730" data-t="3730">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3731" data-t="3731">we're gonna give a compelling reason why. But yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3734" data-t="3734">Just game plan these these things ahead. The the revolution will not have good UX. If you wanna participate in the revolution,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3742" data-t="3742">game plan for bad UX. Think think about these things ahead of time instead of trying to figure it out last minute there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3749" data-t="3749">Because last thing I wanna deal with when I'm trying to sell</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3752" data-t="3752">a T shirt or sell sell some cigarettes is for you to figure out be figuring out your,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3759">1:02:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3759" data-t="3759">what's going on with your lightning.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3762" data-t="3762">I don't wanna deal with it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3767" data-t="3767">Yeah. Let's get to the beers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3769" data-t="3769">So last week's episode was Easter. It was the Easter special.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3774" data-t="3774">Episode 56 of the Bugle Weekly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3778" data-t="3778">It's crazy. It feels like the year episode we did was so long ago, but that was only that was only, like, five weeks ago</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3784">1:03:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3784" data-t="3784">or six weeks ago.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3787" data-t="3787">So we're, like, six weeks in the new year. No. We're longer than that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3791" data-t="3791">Yeah. Yeah. Our our year doesn't match up with the year.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3795" data-t="3795">That's right. That's why I'm confused. Okay.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3798" data-t="3798">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3800" data-t="3800">18,863</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3802">1:03:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3802" data-t="3802">sats</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3803" data-t="3803">for this episode.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3805" data-t="3805">Late stage HODL, 10,000 sats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3808" data-t="3808">Keep growing, dick. I really love hearing about you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3811" data-t="3811">dick and you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3813" data-t="3813">Rod growing huge and strong.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3815">1:03:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3815" data-t="3815">Just throbbing against the system like Hank Reardon.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3819" data-t="3819">Really like showing the world what it means to grease and palm those podcast mics.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3824" data-t="3824">What that means to the little guys in the world, like those in The UK smoking their fags in private while you, American chain smoke all the fags you can in public. So it sounds like The UK is a a pretty unfriendly jurisdiction towards smokers. That's sad. I mean,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3840">1:04:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3840" data-t="3840">there's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3842" data-t="3842">there's a lot of reasons to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3844" data-t="3844">need to go out, step outside, and and smoke a cigarette and just fucking take some time. You can't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3849" data-t="3849">he had there's no free speech. You can't post memes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3853" data-t="3853">Everybody's got</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3854" data-t="3854">gross teeth because they don't brush their teeth.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3857">1:04:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3857" data-t="3857">It's the food sucks. The beer is warm. It's always cloudy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3862" data-t="3862">Can't even have a cigarette.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3865" data-t="3865">In peace.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3866" data-t="3866">What the fuck?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3868">1:04:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3868" data-t="3868">You can't post,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3869">1:04:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3869" data-t="3869">edgy memes. You'll go to jail. Alright. Post an edgy meme. Yeah. That that's why that's why Max, right, he got out of,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3877">1:04:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3877" data-t="3877">he got out of the he got off the island from my government misfits. Yeah. I mean, like, one of the other things that sucks about The UK is, like, you know, when we know that the royalty</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3886" data-t="3886">in engages in pedophilia</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3888" data-t="3888">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3890" data-t="3890">I mean, the the American</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3893" data-t="3893">democratically</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3893">elected leaders do that too. But the the nice thing about,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3900">1:04:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3900" data-t="3900">The US and and the way that democracy works is at least the people are putting the pedophiles in in power, and they have a little bit of control with it. But you're you're just kinda stuck with your,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3910" data-t="3910">with the royal family in The UK.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3912" data-t="3912">There's nothing you can really do about it. You know what I mean?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3915">1:05:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3915" data-t="3915">Right. It that's when you have a system like that where you have these</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3920" data-t="3920">monarchs and these royal families</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3922" data-t="3922">who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3923" data-t="3923">you didn't nobody voted for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3925" data-t="3925">and they're pedophiles</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3926" data-t="3926">and it, you know, it gets out and there's like a very obvious, you know, like Prince Andrew,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3933">1:05:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3933" data-t="3933">hanging out with Epstein. It's yeah. It's where you have to block memes because there's a lot some of the most pop popular memes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3938" data-t="3938">are Epstein memes. So you just have to clamp down on it so you don't hurt the</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3944">1:05:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3944" data-t="3944">royal family's feelings. It's just really a sad state</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3948" data-t="3948">of affairs, and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3951" data-t="3951">I feel I feel bad.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3953" data-t="3953">Well, I don't feel that bad for British people because they they all talk wrong.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3957" data-t="3957">They can change that if they want to. They could they could speak real English and talk like Americans. They they could go and learn how to speak real English,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3965" data-t="3965">and they choose not to. They're making their own bed.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3969">1:06:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3969" data-t="3969">It's their fault.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3972" data-t="3972">You know, when your when your government</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3974" data-t="3974">when your government makes making memes illegal,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3978" data-t="3978">you can't make fun of the royal family, or you can't you can't say edgy things.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3983" data-t="3983">The solution to that is to to meme adversarially.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3986" data-t="3986">It's not it's not to roll over.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3988">1:06:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3988" data-t="3988">And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3989">1:06:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3989" data-t="3989">like Yeah. It comp</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3992" data-t="3992">compliance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3993" data-t="3993">has its limits.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3995" data-t="3995">And when it is the when the compliance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3999" data-t="3999">requires you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4001" data-t="4001">to be</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4002">1:06:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4002" data-t="4002">complicit with pedophilia,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4005" data-t="4005">even to the point where you can't even make a meme about it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4009" data-t="4009">You meet The US did it with the Tea Party. You need to do it they have a meme party. You do, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4015" data-t="4015">have a meme party in London and can just plaster memes all over Buckingham Palace. I don't know. You guys gotta figure it out. Maybe if you didn't eat fucking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4025" data-t="4025">bloody,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4026" data-t="4026">you know, intestines and beans for breakfast.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4029">1:07:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4029" data-t="4029">You wouldn't have such bad breath</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4031" data-t="4031">and people would actually wanna gather and, you know, have a meme party. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4036" data-t="4036">thank you for the stats anyway. The next one is from Q.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4041" data-t="4041">That's a looks like we got to boost</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4044" data-t="4044">another duplicate from Q, but you basically thousand sats said great content, Richard.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4048" data-t="4048">You made a remark that, this episode about Zins being a shitcoin or trait.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4053">1:07:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4053" data-t="4053">I'd like to ask you to clarify because I've been cutting back a bit on smoke of cigarettes, so I have more breath in the chin and can squat two twenty five someday.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4061" data-t="4061">The gym is one of the main places I get my forty hours per week. However, if Zinn is a fake a fiat shit coin habit, thick chic shit or habit,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4070" data-t="4070">what should I do?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4072" data-t="4072">Maybe I just smoke,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4073" data-t="4073">on the way back from the gym as a reward?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4076">1:07:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4076" data-t="4076">What do you think? Well, I think there's a pretty, simple and I I commented on this. I like, I I tore normally don't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4083" data-t="4083">comment on people's boost, but I I felt like I didn't want them to wait a week for, you know, some pretty sound advice. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4092" data-t="4092">you know, what real men do is they they chew tobacco. If you if you have a concern about smoking, then you chew tobacco.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4100" data-t="4100">You don't choose Zins. Zins are like the vaping version</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4104" data-t="4104">of chewing tobacco. And this is a very strange trend that's happening in the Bitcoin ecosystem.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4111" data-t="4111">People are choosing to</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4113">1:08:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4113" data-t="4113">do zen instead</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4115" data-t="4115">of smoke and instead of chewing tobacco.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4118" data-t="4118">And, you know, if you've never chewed tobacco before,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4121" data-t="4121">my favorite brand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4123" data-t="4123">of chewing tobacco</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4125" data-t="4125">is Copenhagen.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4127">1:08:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4127" data-t="4127">And I just found</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4129" data-t="4129">a new type of Copenhagen. They don't carry it everywhere, so sometimes you have to go searching for it. But it's, Copenhagen Reserve long cut,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4137" data-t="4137">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4139" data-t="4139">it's an interesting one. It's got it's got, like, a white,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4146" data-t="4146">tin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4147" data-t="4147">So if you're looking</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4149">1:09:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4149" data-t="4149">and you're confusing the person that your tobacco dealer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4153" data-t="4153">ask for the white tin of the Copenhagen Reserve. They they probably don't have it because they don't carry it everywhere. You have to you have to go searching for a little bit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4162" data-t="4162">But this stuff is, it take it kinda tastes like root beer. It's interesting, but it's not it's not gross like Skoll.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4167" data-t="4167">If you're choosing if you're chewing Skoll, Skoll is, like, the grossest shit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4172" data-t="4172">in the world, and, you're you're a shit coiner for chewing chewing Skoll.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4178" data-t="4178">But when you're in the gym,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4180">1:09:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4180" data-t="4180">you should be chewing tobacco,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4182" data-t="4182">in my opinion.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4183">1:09:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4183" data-t="4183">Yeah. My my recommendation is just the red man, the, good old fashioned stuff you actually chew on.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4189" data-t="4189">There's more spit. There's more saliva that but, you know, you're in the gym. So what people don't realize is that if you swallow,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4197" data-t="4197">you're chewing tobacco spit, it actually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4200" data-t="4200">operate like it helps you. It's like as good as creatine and helping you get extra,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4204" data-t="4204">extra reps, extra strength. It really improves your gym performance when you swallow spit.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4210">1:10:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4210" data-t="4210">Yeah. It kinda depends on what type of gym you're going to as well. So, like, I mean, if you're going to, first of all, never go to a Planet Fitness.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4219" data-t="4219">If you're going to Planet Fitness, everybody there vapes. You don't wanna be around that beta soy energy. The the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4225" data-t="4225">the spike proteins are gonna get all over you if you go to Planet Fitness.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4228" data-t="4228">It's just guaranteed. Never go to Planet Fitness. Absolutely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4232" data-t="4232">But, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4234" data-t="4234">the red Redman is more of, like, a,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4237">1:10:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4237" data-t="4237">like, a power lifter gym. You know what I mean?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4240" data-t="4240">In the power lifter gyms, you've got, like, all the the super old ancient weights. You've got, like, these old men taking,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4247" data-t="4247">a lot of testosterone.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4250" data-t="4250">Their joints don't really work, but they they can dead lift</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4254" data-t="4254">800 pounds. It's pretty wild.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4257" data-t="4257">Arthritis</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4258">1:10:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4258" data-t="4258">ridden men, but they could deadlift 800 pounds. And they're they're just chewing red men, just spinning right on the floor, on the concrete.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4266" data-t="4266">But if you're more like</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4268">1:11:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4268" data-t="4268">Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because red man is tough, you know. If if you're not the type of guy who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4274" data-t="4274">is gonna have his spine fused together in four different places and, like, not able to wipe his own ass with his left hand,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4283" data-t="4283">and still gonna work out every day.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4285" data-t="4285">Red neon's probably not for you. It's like you you maybe you just need,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4291" data-t="4291">you know, some skull berry blend.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4293" data-t="4293">It's like a CrossFit gym.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4296">1:11:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4296" data-t="4296">But, you know, it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4298" data-t="4298">light it up with your with your with your archetype, with your gym archetype, power lifters,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4304" data-t="4304">fuse spines, thread man, Copenhagen. That's gonna be for, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4309" data-t="4309">jujitsu,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4310" data-t="4310">gyms,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4311" data-t="4311">Muay Thai gyms, you know, stuff where people are doing functional strength and you got some, you know, Skoll Longcut or some Grizzly Wintergreen.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4319">1:11:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4319" data-t="4319">Those guys might just be deadlifting with their bare feet. Maybe some of those guys, you know, they're trying to lift that lift that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4326" data-t="4326">that bar and their their tallow guts get in the way. Those are kinda like Grizzly winner to you guys. It's it's all a spectrum. So do it's, do what makes more sense for you. Yeah. Gri Grizzly,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4338">1:12:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4338" data-t="4338">I'd give you a pass if you cheer Grizzly, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4341" data-t="4341">Copenhagen</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4342" data-t="4342">is kinda like the Marlboro of chewing tobacco, in my opinion. Well, anyways, thank you for the boost queue.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4349" data-t="4349">I hope you, made the right decision there and you quit your stupid zines.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4355" data-t="4355">Beta energy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4356" data-t="4356">Pink money monkey, 500 stats. No comment. Thank you, pink monkey. Looks like a double boost from pink monkey. Why does the bar and keep on doing double boost? What's up with this?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4367">1:12:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4367" data-t="4367">I don't know. It's just, it's probably a marketing tactic to make you think that you're more boosts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4372" data-t="4372">The final list from Old Faith will be to see on board. That'll enhance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4377" data-t="4377">four</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4378" data-t="4378">CTV.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4379" data-t="4379">There's the 300 sets. Two thumbs up. Thank you. BGC</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4383" data-t="4383">on board.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4386">1:13:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4386" data-t="4386">Yeah. That was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4388" data-t="4388">those were all in our boosts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4390" data-t="4390">The the the show is about truckers, and we'll probably,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4395" data-t="4395">meet out the show with the new song,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4399" data-t="4399">Trucking Down the Rabbit Hole. It's a trucker song. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4403" data-t="4403">we'll we'll we'll Orange Midland truckers forty hours per week. Get your forty hours per weekend before the weekend.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4409">1:13:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4409" data-t="4409">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4410" data-t="4410">One one of the things I did want to address before we wrap up the show</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4414" data-t="4414">real quick</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4416" data-t="4416">is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4417" data-t="4417">with the conference coming up, not everybody comes to the conference,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4420" data-t="4420">which is fine. I I get</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4423">1:13:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4423" data-t="4423">it. Not everybody has a compelling reason to go and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4426" data-t="4426">to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4427" data-t="4427">semi docs themselves to the the feds that are gonna be there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4431" data-t="4431">I won't knock you for that if you don't feel great about that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4434" data-t="4434">A lot of people care about their OPSEC. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4437" data-t="4437">one of the trends that happens every year, it's like the Super Bowl for people that</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4443">1:14:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4443" data-t="4443">wanna shit on how terrible the conference is. So what they do is they, like, you know, most of the people that go to the conference, for what I've seen, they don't actually listen to any of the talks. I typically don't listen to any of the talks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4455" data-t="4455">I'm just hanging out with people. I'm hanging out with Bitcoin podcasters the whole time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4459" data-t="4459">and Bitcoin podcast listeners.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4462" data-t="4462">But there's a segment of the population</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4465" data-t="4465">that likes to sit on the sidelines and just criticize how terrible they think the conference is every year. They don't go, and they just complain about the conference.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4474" data-t="4474">It's like their Super Bowl. They look forward to complaining about the conference. You got any thoughts</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4480">1:14:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4480" data-t="4480">on that or any comments for these people, Rod?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4484">1:14:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4484" data-t="4484">Yeah. Yeah. It's the I mean, somebody's gotta watch the livestream.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4489" data-t="4489">Not everybody can go. Not everybody can afford tickets.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4493" data-t="4493">Not everybody,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4495" data-t="4495">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4496" data-t="4496">not everybody's prepared to stand behind some of the things they said on on Twitter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4502" data-t="4502">If a Bitcoin broadcaster influencer confronts them,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4506">1:15:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4506" data-t="4506">you know, and some of them just like to, you know, there's they like to criticize the man in the arena instead of being the man in the arena themselves.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4515" data-t="4515">But like I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4517" data-t="4517">said, people have sponsors.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4520" data-t="4520">But why is the live stream?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4522" data-t="4522">It needs viewers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4523" data-t="4523">so the sponsors can pay</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4526">1:15:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4526" data-t="4526">for, you know, the men in the arena. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4529" data-t="4529">it is it is those people who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4532" data-t="4532">who pay those bills.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4534" data-t="4534">Some people are just they are it's like a you know, I heard somebody say once that they look at herpes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4541" data-t="4541">the way that a skateboarder looks at a sprained ankle. It means that he was participating,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4546" data-t="4546">you know, in this revolution to separate money from city. He wasn't just a spectator.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4551">1:15:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4551" data-t="4551">And sometimes the conference is a little crazy and wacky,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4554" data-t="4554">but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4555" data-t="4555">you know, it's not for everybody. Some people are just spectators, and some people are builders.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4561" data-t="4561">They're doers. They're podcasters.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4564" data-t="4564">You know, it's just each person has to decide for themselves who they are. The support characters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4570" data-t="4570">in the story. Right. Like, the the non you know, the NPCs. You know what I mean? The non participating</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4575">1:16:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4575" data-t="4575">characters.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4577">1:16:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4577" data-t="4577">The part time podcast listeners. Well, I look forward to seeing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4581" data-t="4581">all the rain per usual,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4584" data-t="4584">from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4585" data-t="4585">the people sitting on the sidelines. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4587" data-t="4587">anyways,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4588" data-t="4588">thank you everybody for tuning into this</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4592">1:16:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4592" data-t="4592">special episode of the vehicle weekly. Make sure to thank a trucker. Go out there. Thank a trucker.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4598" data-t="4598">They are the reason that you're listening to podcasts. They delivered you the gear. They're the ones that that make the world go round. Things don't teleport to grocery stores. Truckers drive things to grocery stores. So make sure to get out there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4611" data-t="4611">Go shake a trucker's hand. You know a trucker, go over to his house.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4617" data-t="4617">Go buy his wife some lasagna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4619" data-t="4619">or something.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4620" data-t="4620">Go deliver like a pie to a trucker</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4623">1:17:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4623" data-t="4623">and, and thank them for all they do for our society. It's a it's a tough time out there for truckers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4629" data-t="4629">Truckers need Bitcoin. They need they need Bitcoin podcasts. They're they're listening to Bitcoin podcasts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4635" data-t="4635">but not enough of them are. And we need to onboard more.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4640" data-t="4640">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4641" data-t="4641">make sure to to thank them because they're the reason why there's food on your table.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4647">1:17:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Timmy Tether</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4647" data-t="4647">Take the rabbit hole down.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4649" data-t="4649">Smoke a cig, just trust me to a place the four wheeler mind can't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4655" data-t="4655">comprehend.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4656" data-t="4656">We've got a long way to go and a short time to get there. Listen to forty hours in time for the weekend.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4666" data-t="4666">Hammer down down the boulevard just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4669" data-t="4669">cranking signal</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4671">1:17:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Timmy Tether</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4671" data-t="4671">a sovereign trucker understands</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4674" data-t="4674">the states</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4675" data-t="4675">watch out for beds on the road to separate money from state</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4682" data-t="4682">suit corners in DC</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4685" data-t="4685">mingling with politicians</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4690" data-t="4690">but truckers rule the road and it ain't a competition</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4694">1:18:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Timmy Tether</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4694" data-t="4694">with a trusty bid axe and forty hours we already know Fiat's fate.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4702" data-t="4702">Take the rabbit hole down,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4704" data-t="4704">smoke a sick, just trust me to a place the four wheeler mind can't comprehend.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4711" data-t="4711">And we've got a long way to go and a short time to get there. Listen to forty hours in time for the weekend.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4740">1:19:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Timmy Tether</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4740" data-t="4740">Hammer down down the boulevard just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4743" data-t="4743">cranking signal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4745" data-t="4745">A sovereign trucker</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4747" data-t="4747">understands</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4748" data-t="4748">the states.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4750" data-t="4750">Watch out for feds on the road to separate money from state,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4754">1:19:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Timmy Tether</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4754" data-t="4754">sue corners in DC,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4757" data-t="4757">mingling with politicians.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4762" data-t="4762">But truckers rule the road, and it ain't a competition with a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4767" data-t="4767">trusty bid ax and forty hours, we already know Fiat's fate.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4774" data-t="4774">Take the rabbit hole down,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4776" data-t="4776">smoke a cig, just trust me to a place the four wheeler mind can't</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4782">1:19:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Timmy Tether</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4782" data-t="4782">comprehend.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4783" data-t="4783">We've got a long way to go</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4786" data-t="4786">and a short time to get there. Listen to forty hours in time for the</span></span></p> +