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A place where you can talk about whatever you want.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-73" data-t="73">A place that's not just a website.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-76" data-t="76">A decentralized,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-77" data-t="77">non compliant marketplace for ideas</span> <span class="cue" id="t-80" data-t="80">where the protocol is built on game theory,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-83" data-t="83">and where that protocol follows one simple axiom,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-86">1:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-86" data-t="86">which is that SATs don't care about your feelings,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-89" data-t="89">a place where you can safely say the words crypto or custodial</span> <span class="cue" id="t-93" data-t="93">without getting canceled and without being exiled from the value for value economy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-99" data-t="99">What if I told you it already exists?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-102" data-t="102">What if I told you someone finally answered the famous question,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-105" data-t="105">who will build the roads?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-107">1:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-107" data-t="107">What if I told you we've already started</span> <span class="cue" id="t-110" data-t="110">the intellectual silk road?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-113" data-t="113">Join us.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-116">1:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-116" data-t="116">Last week on Bugle Weekly,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-118" data-t="118">Rod and Richard celebrate Mexico electing their first female president, Claudia Sheinbaum, and discussed civil month appliance gone too far, resulting in nearly 40 political assassinations during the Mexican election cycle.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-130" data-t="130">They report on the sophisticated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-132" data-t="132">on chain assassination markets prevalent in Mexico and the implications of on chain assassination markets coming to The US.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-139" data-t="139">Next, Rod and Richard cover the Buell's compliance pride tournament, analyze surprising performances,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-145" data-t="145">and recognize rising stars from the HR departments across the Bitcoin industry.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-149">2:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-149" data-t="149">And finally, they lay out the case for why the duple is writing history and recording Bitcoin's victory over fiat money on the ledger of human history.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-157" data-t="157">Now get ready for another week of the hardest hitting credential journalism, where game theory informs every story.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-167">2:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-167" data-t="167">You are listening to the Bugle Weekly, the most thermodynamically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-171" data-t="171">sound podcast in the game.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-173" data-t="173">Here are your hosts, Rod Palmer and Dick Greaser.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-179">2:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-179" data-t="179">Alright, everybody. Welcome to this edition of the Bugle Weekly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-183" data-t="183">podcast, the premier journalistic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-186" data-t="186">premier credential journalist podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-189" data-t="189">How you doing, Ron?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-191">3:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-191" data-t="191">Doing well. I it doesn't hold well that sometimes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-194" data-t="194">you know, it's years and nothing happens. Sometimes it's weeks or days and years happen. That's just how it feels like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-201" data-t="201">my perspective,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-203" data-t="203">being a a Bitcoiner this past week is so much news. So many Bitcoiners already won. People are finding out much quicker than I anticipated. Yeah. I mean, it's really shocking. This is this is what part Parker Lewis had promised us. This is the, the suddenly phase</span> <span class="cue" id="t-219" data-t="219">Right. That we're in. That's what it feels like. It feels it's hard to keep up with. Yeah. I mean, when</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-224">3:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-224" data-t="224">when the world's intelligence agencies are operating on a Bitcoin standard and all these geopolitical</span> <span class="cue" id="t-231" data-t="231">fights are happening</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-233">3:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-233" data-t="233">over</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-235">3:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-235" data-t="235">trying to get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-236" data-t="236">different countries</span> <span class="cue" id="t-237" data-t="237">Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-239" data-t="239">to conquer each other,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-243" data-t="243">that's when Bitcoin has really solidified</span> <span class="cue" id="t-245" data-t="245">its W. And we</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-248">4:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-248" data-t="248">it probably sounds boring and repetitive for the listeners to to hear us say this every week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-255" data-t="255">But the reason why</span> <span class="cue" id="t-256" data-t="256">we say it over and over again is just we're living in a scenario where the majority of the world hasn't figured it out yet. And when</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-265">4:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-265" data-t="265">like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-266">4:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-266" data-t="266">when Joe Biden won the last election,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-271" data-t="271">it was very important for the media to say over and over again that he won it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-275" data-t="275">over and over and over and over again, You know, just to split by it in,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-281" data-t="281">the eyes of the American people.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-284">4:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-284" data-t="284">Yeah. It's just this repetitive. You say something is true over and over again, and now you say it enough, it becomes it becomes true, becomes a reality.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-293" data-t="293">If you take speculation, you just repeat it as fact, eventually, it becomes fact in everybody's mind. And that's how you win. You create</span> <span class="cue" id="t-303" data-t="303">new</span> <span class="cue" id="t-304" data-t="304">truth, and you create that story, and you just tell it, and you stick to the story. Yeah. It's definitely something that they teach you in journalistic school.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-314">5:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-314" data-t="314">But, yeah,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-315" data-t="315">like you said, it it feels like weeks are happening in days and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-321" data-t="321">years are happening in weeks as far as the amount of change that is happening right now, the the news stories that are coming. It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-329" data-t="329">it's kinda overwhelming, and and it makes doing a show like this difficult to pack everything in.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-336" data-t="336">Because even as we're talking now, I already wanna get completely derailed,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-340" data-t="340">off our agenda that we just wrote.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-343">5:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-343" data-t="343">But, yeah, I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-345" data-t="345">I I think one of the pressing issues right now is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-349" data-t="349">America,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-350" data-t="350">with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-352" data-t="352">with Bitcoiners winning</span> <span class="cue" id="t-353" data-t="353">so,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-357">5:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-357" data-t="357">convincingly right now,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-358" data-t="358">we're really exposing ourselves</span> <span class="cue" id="t-361" data-t="361">for some sort of false flag from the CIA,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-364" data-t="364">which is something I'm concerned about.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-366">6:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-366" data-t="366">Yeah. If you think about it, like, things are just going so well. Like, if you look at your timeline on social media the past few couple of weeks, what have you seen? You've seen pictures of people. You've been making selfies with influencers at conferences. There has never been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-382" data-t="382">better time to go to a Bitcoin conference and take a selfie with your favorite podcaster. And it's like, there's one all over in the different part of the world every week. You got Bitcoin to land. It's Bitcoin in Austin, Texas.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-394" data-t="394">You've got it in bit BTC Prague. You've got all these podcasts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-398" data-t="398">podcasters at all these conferences. It's the same people. They're going to every single one that's traveling the world. Bitcoin Hong Kong.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-405" data-t="405">And just you could take a selfie with them. Everybody looks so happy. Everybody's hair is, like, freshly. Their tips are frosted. It's dyed. It's they're wearing their best outfits, the newest outfits. It's like a fashion show. Best Beat Bitcoin t shirts at these conferences. Stuff you've never seen before.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-419">6:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-419" data-t="419">And it's like everybody's so happy, and we have such a healthy, vibrant,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-424" data-t="424">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-425" data-t="425">and influencer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-426" data-t="426">community, and there's so much signal in that. And it's it's it's just more evidence that everybody is seeing that Bitcoin has already won and you guys won. They sponsoring that with Tucker Carlson, the biggest podcast in the world. You're now outspending Pfizer in terms of, of ad spend in in the in the mainstream media. You've got different celebrities coming out. Iggy Azalea, fucking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-448" data-t="448">Caitlyn Jenner. The Kardashian family is now, like, getting into</span> <span class="cue" id="t-452" data-t="452">into crypto and Bitcoin again. And it's it's where everywhere you turn, you see it. It's there. It's not in one. And Pete, it's hitting the culture so fast that people are just,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-463">7:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-463" data-t="463">oh my god. I I can't believe I doubted it. But, you know, with all of that happening, with the change happening so quickly, there's definitely individuals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-473" data-t="473">in government and in intelligence agencies that are not they're not very happy with it. Because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-481" data-t="481">like, I know that what the CIA is probably thinking right now is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-487" data-t="487">if everybody's laundering money</span> <span class="cue" id="t-489" data-t="489">using Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-491" data-t="491">then they don't really have any sort of advantage.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-495">8:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-495" data-t="495">Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-497" data-t="497">If you looked at if you looked at Cisco</span> <span class="cue" id="t-499" data-t="499">company, if you think back to the .com bubble,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-503" data-t="503">they their value was so high, and it was just unbelievable.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-507" data-t="507">And it was because they were the company. Everybody thought the Internet was gonna be built on these browsers and these hardware.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-513" data-t="513">Then eventually, it all moved to to software, to web apps, and to social media, and these browser based cloud apps.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-521">8:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-521" data-t="521">And all that value got sucked out. And it was like a whole new playing field for people who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-526" data-t="526">knew how to code. If you knew how to code, like, you could now become</span> <span class="cue" id="t-531" data-t="531">a richer than the most valuable company in the world.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-534" data-t="534">And that's what the government used to have. They used to have this monopoly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-538" data-t="538">on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-539" data-t="539">on money. And then Bitcoin won.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-543">9:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-543" data-t="543">Now, free and open source coders</span> <span class="cue" id="t-545" data-t="545">can be as rich. Labs can become as rich as presidents and central bankers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-550" data-t="550">And the CIA</span> <span class="cue" id="t-552" data-t="552">is, they were in charge of like, making sure that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-556" data-t="556">the styler system that they controlled was safe to be used and the most effective and valuable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-560" data-t="560">tool to be used around the world.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-563">9:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-563" data-t="563">And now everybody's caught on to what they were doing. It was they were just laundering Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-568" data-t="568">And they were using the the mixers to wander money and they were using Bitcoin. Now anybody could do that. Now anybody could be their own central bank.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-575" data-t="575">They're gonna start getting KYC'd by these central banks and they're gonna be outed and they're not gonna have that advantage.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-581" data-t="581">And they are going to fight tooth and nail to prevent everybody from finding out that they don't deserve that advantage anymore.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-588">9:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-588" data-t="588">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-589" data-t="589">Well, and I think there's, you know, there there's probably, you know, multiple perspectives of of either they want to keep Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-597" data-t="597">kind of like a small fringe thing that makes it easier for them to funnel what</span> <span class="cue" id="t-605" data-t="605">seems like compliant funds. So when Congress passes a bill sending money to Ukraine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-611" data-t="611">and everything looks</span> <span class="cue" id="t-613" data-t="613">appropriate on the surface,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-616">10:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-616" data-t="616">Bitcoin gives them that kind</span> <span class="cue" id="t-618" data-t="618">of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-619" data-t="619">like I mean, it gives them that ability</span> <span class="cue" id="t-622" data-t="622">to send money across the world</span> <span class="cue" id="t-624" data-t="624">non compliantly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-625" data-t="625">into politician's non KYC stacks. And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-629">10:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-629" data-t="629">the politicians are probably feeling insecure</span> <span class="cue" id="t-631" data-t="631">right now. Like, I know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-635" data-t="635">like, my Mike Pompeo,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-637" data-t="637">for example,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-639" data-t="639">he probably doesn't have 6.15</span> <span class="cue" id="t-641" data-t="641">Bitcoin yet.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-643">10:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-643" data-t="643">That's a bit interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-644" data-t="644">Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-646">10:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-646" data-t="646">And so that's probably</span> <span class="cue" id="t-648" data-t="648">why</span> <span class="cue" id="t-650" data-t="650">these agents you know, part of the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-652" data-t="652">part of their disdain, you know, for what's happening right now has to do with the fact that their stacks aren't aren't big enough yet. They need a little bit more time to launder some more money.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-663" data-t="663">Part of it too is, you know, we we might be taking, you know, some lucrative,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-669" data-t="669">channels away from them</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-671">11:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-671" data-t="671">because if the entire world lives on a Bitcoin standard, they can't they just can't print money to acquire Bitcoin like they are right now. That's a good point. Yeah. The you see the interest rates going up, but it's just</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-681">11:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-681" data-t="681">it's the market the arbitrage was closing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-685" data-t="685">And the the market is getting more and more efficient, and that is it's really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-690" data-t="690">arming the Cantillon area. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-693">11:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-693" data-t="693">Well, on to our first topic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-696" data-t="696">of the show, so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-699" data-t="699">you introduced me to this idea called the intellectual</span> <span class="cue" id="t-702" data-t="702">silk road.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-703" data-t="703">Do you wanna talk a little bit about what that is?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-707">11:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-707" data-t="707">Right. Right. The intellectually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-708" data-t="708">you may have heard</span> <span class="cue" id="t-711" data-t="711">of the intellectual Silk Road's forefather.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-714" data-t="714">It's inspiration.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-716" data-t="716">It's called the intellectual dark web. That was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-719" data-t="719">Joe Rogan,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-721">12:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-721" data-t="721">Ed Shapiro,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-723" data-t="723">Dave Rubin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-724" data-t="724">Jordan Peterson,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-726" data-t="726">doctor,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-728" data-t="728">Christina Hoff Sommers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-730" data-t="730">There was a few others. I think you probably remember that. Eric Weinstein,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-734">12:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-734" data-t="734">the mathematician who,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-737" data-t="737">was interviewed by Robert Breedlove and who said that Bitcoin didn't work because of some sort of gauge theory. Really interesting stuff. He was wrong, but he was very, very smart otherwise. He</span> <span class="cue" id="t-748" data-t="748">was now this new intellectual silk road,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-751" data-t="751">and it's anybody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-753" data-t="753">who works</span> <span class="cue" id="t-754" data-t="754">in the Bitcoin community,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-756">12:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-756" data-t="756">in the industry,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-757" data-t="757">is embedded in the culture,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-760" data-t="760">He's sick and tired of being compliant. They wanna be non compliant, but they're worried</span> <span class="cue" id="t-764" data-t="764">that if they share their non compliant ideas, they'll lose out on their value for value community.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-770" data-t="770">This intellectual silk road is peer to peer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-774" data-t="774">intellectual</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-775">12:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-775" data-t="775">information exchange, value for value network of podcasts, influencers, thinkers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-781" data-t="781">liners. Just add general, any value you can provide.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-786" data-t="786">Coming together and showing that you can defect from PodCom,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-790" data-t="790">defect from a compliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-792" data-t="792">timeline</span> <span class="cue" id="t-793" data-t="793">onto a noncompliant timeline and still have network, a connection, people supporting it. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-801">13:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-801" data-t="801">Yeah. I mean, it's a it's a very important concept that, you know, I'm glad that you shared with me. And I I think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-809" data-t="809">it's important to have this intellectual silk road to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-813" data-t="813">to allow for people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-814" data-t="814">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-816" data-t="816">defect and leave Podkoff to be able to contribute</span> <span class="cue" id="t-821" data-t="821">all their different skill sets,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-824">13:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-824" data-t="824">to be able to resist</span> <span class="cue" id="t-826" data-t="826">the domination</span> <span class="cue" id="t-828" data-t="828">of narratives</span> <span class="cue" id="t-831" data-t="831">and essentially hoisting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-833" data-t="833">interest on the plants that are not really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-836" data-t="836">serving them very well.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-838">13:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-838" data-t="838">Yeah. It's good to know that you won't if you are really good at making memes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-842" data-t="842">or you're really good at making content, or you're really good at being a coder, a free and open source coder,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-849" data-t="849">and you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-850" data-t="850">you make a meme, or you code an app, or you say something</span> <span class="cue" id="t-854" data-t="854">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-855" data-t="855">Hotcuff doesn't like, and you won't lose followers. You won't lose</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-860">14:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-860" data-t="860">revenue. Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-862" data-t="862">Elon Musk did something</span> <span class="cue" id="t-866" data-t="866">very important for for the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-869" data-t="869">the intellectual Silk Road this week, which was to make likes private</span> <span class="cue" id="t-873" data-t="873">on all our posts.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-875">14:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-875" data-t="875">Right. To his credit, he understood.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-878" data-t="878">You are not going to be able to signal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-882" data-t="882">other content creators and other influencers that you agree</span> <span class="cue" id="t-885" data-t="885">with their,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-887" data-t="887">non compliant opinions and their non compliant posts. If everybody else can see that you liked it. So he made likes private so you could shout the bugle. For example,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-897" data-t="897">that you think our content is funny and valuable,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-901">15:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-901" data-t="901">and that you are also noncompliant,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-903">15:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-903" data-t="903">and your boss won't find out. Yeah. I mean, he he did something great for us, which</span> <span class="cue" id="t-908" data-t="908">Well, I mean, it's kind of like a double edged sword, you know, because there there's definitely trade offs in this scenario. So there's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-916" data-t="916">it the trade off of it now being safe to like Bugle Post because like I know a lot of people were afraid</span> <span class="cue" id="t-922" data-t="922">to like it because, you know, anytime,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-926" data-t="926">you really support the real journalists, the non CIA controlled ones, you know, and and and the credentialed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-934" data-t="934">integrity filled ones like us,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-937">15:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-937" data-t="937">You know, Podkoff</span> <span class="cue" id="t-939" data-t="939">was checking who liked tweets,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-942" data-t="942">and there could be repercussions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-944" data-t="944">like you like you said before.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-947" data-t="947">You know, employers, you know, that were part of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-950" data-t="950">the PodConf</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-952">15:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-952" data-t="952">industrial complex</span> <span class="cue" id="t-953" data-t="953">definitely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-955" data-t="955">would reprimand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-957" data-t="957">individuals liking unapproved</span> <span class="cue" id="t-959" data-t="959">tweets.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-960" data-t="960">And that was not the case. But</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-963">16:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-963" data-t="963">the other side of it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-965" data-t="965">that is really concerning is this has made</span> <span class="cue" id="t-968" data-t="968">the cost of launching</span> <span class="cue" id="t-970" data-t="970">civil attacks against Bitcoiners a lot lower,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-973" data-t="973">as now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-975" data-t="975">things can</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-977">16:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-977" data-t="977">be swayed. So maybe,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-980" data-t="980">like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-981" data-t="981">say, for example, Dan Held posts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-984" data-t="984">another plug's tweet,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-986" data-t="986">and it goes and it gets a million likes. How can you verify that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-992" data-t="992">99%</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-993">16:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-993" data-t="993">of those are not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-994" data-t="994">bot accounts?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-996">16:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-996" data-t="996">Right. Right. Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-998" data-t="998">if Dan Held steals a meme and pays a $100 for 10,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1002" data-t="1002">likes, people are gonna see that meme and it has more likes than the pleb who created it. And they're gonna think, wow. Well, longest chain, according to Satoshi, that's the most proof of work. That's the most evidence. That's the right the owner of that meme. Daniel will get the credit for it. How do you know that those likes were from real people and not bots? There's there's no way of knowing now. And it's just one of those unfortunate</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1025">17:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1025" data-t="1025">downsides of of what</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1028" data-t="1028">the battleground which, you know, Twitter is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1032" data-t="1032">where I I don't know. I mean, it like, I think it's a win</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1036" data-t="1036">for us, you know, as a news organization in some ways because it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1042" data-t="1042">you know, Twitter has become a safer place for us. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1046" data-t="1046">at the same time, there's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1048">17:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1048" data-t="1048">now there's real no no real guarantee that that Podkoff isn't gonna abuse this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1054" data-t="1054">you know, which</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1056" data-t="1056">probably isn't good for us. Because if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1058" data-t="1058">if, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1060" data-t="1060">Podkoff is out there promoting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1062" data-t="1062">CIA controlled uncredentialed</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1065">17:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1065" data-t="1065">influencers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1066" data-t="1066">and they're they're boosting their engagement, and and nobody could</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1070" data-t="1070">can verify it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1074" data-t="1074">because they can't see who's liking the tweet. How many</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1077" data-t="1077">how many,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1078" data-t="1078">you know, accounts</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1079">17:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1079" data-t="1079">with a cute girl and and one follower are liking the tweets.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1084">18:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1084" data-t="1084">Yeah. I mean, it it's it's sad that the people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1088" data-t="1088">who truly are non compliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1090" data-t="1090">and truly have a non compliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1093" data-t="1093">hatecoiner's heart, that they needed the privacy to to communicate that to the right people.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1099" data-t="1099">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1100" data-t="1100">maybe that will help people learn, like, just to to be more</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1104">18:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1104" data-t="1104">to be more present or to be more aware. So the more opinions that you share</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1111" data-t="1111">that are the truth,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1112" data-t="1112">It will be harder for the CIA</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1115" data-t="1115">to use fake bot accounts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1117" data-t="1117">to, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1118" data-t="1118">the people that are dunking on you and your replies.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1121">18:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1121" data-t="1121">And maybe maybe it's time to learn that getting getting ratioed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1125" data-t="1125">isn't a bad thing. It means you're telling the truth. That's what it means. If if you write something and the people who hate it are getting way more likes than you in the replies, that means you told the truth. That's one of the only ways you can know now. Yeah. It's,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1138">18:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1138" data-t="1138">I mean, the entire landscape has shifted.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1142" data-t="1142">And it's interesting the timing that it shifted is right around this important selection process. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1148" data-t="1148">so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1151" data-t="1151">talking about PodConf</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1152" data-t="1152">a little bit more in-depth. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1155" data-t="1155">big win for them this week as</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1159">19:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1159" data-t="1159">Bitcoin Magazine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1160" data-t="1160">is working on a deal with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1164" data-t="1164">the Trump campaign</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1166" data-t="1166">to achieve the status of being official state run media.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1171">19:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1171" data-t="1171">Huge.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1173" data-t="1173">And in the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1174" data-t="1174">the access</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1175" data-t="1175">and the funding</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1177" data-t="1177">and just the the credibility</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1179" data-t="1179">that it's going to give them to be state run media</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1182">19:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1182" data-t="1182">is gonna be huge. They were gonna have they're gonna have way more credibility as a state run organization than they ever had before. Yeah. I mean, I I think, like, the</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1192">19:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1192" data-t="1192">one of the reasons why</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1194" data-t="1194">David Bailey and the team over there wanted to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1197" data-t="1197">do this is because they're they have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1199" data-t="1199">they have low time preference. They're thinking about the next bear market</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1205" data-t="1205">and diversifying</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1206" data-t="1206">revenue streams and getting</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1209">20:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1209" data-t="1209">I mean, the US government, under Donald Trump, is probably going</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1213" data-t="1213">to become one of the biggest holders of Bitcoin in the world. And so positioning themselves to get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1219" data-t="1219">paid by the people who are gonna be the biggest Bitcoin holders in the world.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1223" data-t="1223">Right. It's a very smart move. And I</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1226">20:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1226" data-t="1226">don't disagree with you. In fact, I think that's very logical. I think it's even simpler than that. I think that David Bailey and the staff at Bitcoin Magazine, they looked at the bugle,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1236" data-t="1236">and they realized how important credentials were. So why did they do? Because they're a bigger organization. They've got deeper pockets.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1244" data-t="1244">They went and they got the biggest credential that you could get, which is to get a state,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1250" data-t="1250">like, one of those those</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1252" data-t="1252">those zip all those necklaces that goes over your your neck and you wear it at the press conference. It's your SMAS credentials. They got state press credentials.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1262" data-t="1262">Now their</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1264">21:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1264" data-t="1264">authority, their legitimacy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1266" data-t="1266">everybody in the world can see it. And they've just upgraded</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1270" data-t="1270">now people can trust them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1272" data-t="1272">And they and they're they're just they love new power and access to to minds that they can and they get from this this new venture.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1281">21:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1281" data-t="1281">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1282" data-t="1282">I mean, the the marriage between, you know, government and private corporation,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1287" data-t="1287">specifically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1288" data-t="1288">in media,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1290" data-t="1290">it creates some pretty interesting dynamics. I mean, we can see</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1294" data-t="1294">the Bitcoin conference</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1296">21:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1296" data-t="1296">speaker list really get interesting over the next few years. Like, imagine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1301" data-t="1301">Anthony Fauci,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1302" data-t="1302">you know, given a keynote address at the the next</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1306" data-t="1306">ordinals magazine conference.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1309">21:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1309" data-t="1309">And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1311">21:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1311" data-t="1311">and then Maybe if you if you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1313" data-t="1313">if you think about maybe the next Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1315" data-t="1315">conference in the next bull market four years from now,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1319" data-t="1319">it may get so then the Bitcoin conference may become so culturally and politically important</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1325" data-t="1325">that you'd have speaker Mike Johnson, and and he's doling out the time, and people are in all the congressmen and senators from the United States government are gonna be just back to back speaking at the conference.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1335" data-t="1335">And Dennis Pruitt is gonna be working with the speaker to dole out their time because there's gonna be so many politicians there.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1342">22:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1342" data-t="1342">Yeah. You know, probably that. Once they find out Bitcoin is won, where else are they gonna wanna be?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1348">22:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1348" data-t="1348">Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1349">22:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1349" data-t="1349">Definitely. And and not only that, you know, we're gonna see Bitcoiners</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1355" data-t="1355">involved in the administration</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1356" data-t="1356">is what I think. I think though I think the cabinet's gonna be a bright orange cabinet. Yeah. I mean, let's let's talk about the cabinet, you know, maybe some predictions and and who we think would be good Bitcoiners for different roles.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1369">22:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1369" data-t="1369">Well, the most important of the cabinet, right, is secretary of state.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1374">22:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1374" data-t="1374">Uh-huh.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1375">22:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1375" data-t="1375">I mean, that's that's the person that is handling American foreign policy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1380" data-t="1380">around the world.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1382" data-t="1382">And who better</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1384" data-t="1384">to be the secretary of state</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1387" data-t="1387">than somebody who could speak</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1390" data-t="1390">and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1391">23:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1391" data-t="1391">and broker peace and be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1394" data-t="1394">that person who can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1396" data-t="1396">reach the narrative to everybody, every every Bitcoiner and every part of the world. And I'm this is controversial, but I think it would be Peter McCormick. He wants to be the man of the Bedford, but I think I think he's got a bigger role waiting for him. Yeah. I think Peter would be a good good choice for that. I mean, he he's had a big week. He was just,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1413">23:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1413" data-t="1413">his company won,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1416" data-t="1416">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1417" data-t="1417">the bugle compliance tournament.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1420">23:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1420" data-t="1420">I mean, what what better</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1422" data-t="1422">harbinger of what's to come than winning</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1426" data-t="1426">the most compliant company in Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1428" data-t="1428">and then</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1430" data-t="1430">earning the right to serve honorably as America's next Secretary of State? Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1436">23:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1436" data-t="1436">I mean, it's just like, all</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1438" data-t="1438">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1440" data-t="1440">being in Bitcoin for a while,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1443">24:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1443" data-t="1443">I think most of us are just so conditioned</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1446" data-t="1446">to the idea of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1448" data-t="1448">thinking adversarially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1450" data-t="1450">about the world, about government. And so when</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1455" data-t="1455">like, I think a lot of Bitcoiners are still in denial around the fact that Bitcoin has won.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1461" data-t="1461">Like, these are the things that we're gonna see. We're gonna see Peter McCourt. Like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1465">24:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1465" data-t="1465">I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1466" data-t="1466">I I think it'd be kind of a poor decision. Like, the one the one criticism I would make of that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1472" data-t="1472">is that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1474" data-t="1474">you know, Peter doesn't talk like an American. He doesn't talk using proper English.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1480">24:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1480" data-t="1480">Right.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1481">24:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1481" data-t="1481">And and he has a redcoat. And I think it it is kind</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1485" data-t="1485">of treasonous almost to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1488" data-t="1488">put somebody in a in a position that high. So I would be pretty disappointed personally if Donald Trump</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1494" data-t="1494">made Peter his choice for Secretary of State.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1498" data-t="1498">Who would be your choice? Oh, man. Who would be my choice? I'll I'll have to think about that. I mean, I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1505" data-t="1505">is Samson now Canadian?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1508">25:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1508" data-t="1508">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1509" data-t="1509">Unfortunately.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1511">25:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1511" data-t="1511">Yeah. I mean, I I'd say Canadian a Canadian would be better than a British person, though, you know, it's almost as bad because Yeah. If you had to ask, right? If you had to ask, then other people won't know.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1523" data-t="1523">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1525" data-t="1525">Who is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1526" data-t="1526">a very,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1529">25:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1529" data-t="1529">very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1531" data-t="1531">American Bitcoin? American HODL comes to mind.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1534">25:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1534" data-t="1534">Wow.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1535">25:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1535" data-t="1535">Yeah. I I think American HODL would be probably a pretty good choice for that position.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1540">25:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1540" data-t="1540">I'd confirm that if I was a senator.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1544">25:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1544" data-t="1544">I mean, maybe maybe there was some something in in the works there because I don't I don't think American HODL is the type of guy that would just,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1551" data-t="1551">you know, endorse Donald Trump. Did did you see that Donald Trump got the American HODL endorsement?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1556" data-t="1556">Yeah. I I didn't think it was gonna come so quickly and so early. I mean, that that, I think, kinda calls the election. Like, I don't think there's any</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1564" data-t="1564">any</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1566" data-t="1566">chance that Joe Biden can compete with an American HODL</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1570">26:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1570" data-t="1570">endorsement. I'm sure that's causing a lot of, like, internal conversation about how to perceive, like, maybe it's time to pull out. Some people think he's gonna pull out of the election, Joe Biden.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1579" data-t="1579">I mean, if he does,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1581" data-t="1581">I think it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1583" data-t="1583">an American you know, back channel communication at American Auto has has</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1588" data-t="1588">promoted,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1589" data-t="1589">supported Donald Trump, and endorsed him for president.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1592">26:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1592" data-t="1592">Possibility that American Huddl might actually be floated as somebody to serve in his cabinet.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1598" data-t="1598">I think that just kills any momentum possibility that Biden has ever. I mean, coming up to July 4, people are gonna be very patriotic in a very patriotic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1606" data-t="1606">spirit. And knowing that American Honorable is on Trump's team is gonna be it's gonna really speak to something inside of them. Definitely. I would I would probably put Rick from, CryptoCloaks</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1617">26:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1617" data-t="1617">as the administrator of small businesses.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1620" data-t="1620">I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1621" data-t="1621">like it. I would put,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1624" data-t="1624">Texas Slim as the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1627" data-t="1627">secretary of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1629" data-t="1629">agriculture.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1630">27:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1630" data-t="1630">I probably put</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1631" data-t="1631">well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1633" data-t="1633">yeah. I mean, again, Steve Barber is a stupid Canadian. So I I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1639" data-t="1639">was considering him from, for secretary of energy, but I think Max Guillardi</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1643">27:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1643" data-t="1643">would be a better choice because he's a I like Max, and I I I don't think Bobo should be the guy. But who's it is that miner who's got the really deep voice. The miner with the deep voice. He runs a mining company. He's got a deep voice. He goes on Peter McCormick's podcast a lot.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1658">27:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1658" data-t="1658">Oh,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1660" data-t="1660">that guy from Grid.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1662">27:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1662" data-t="1662">Grid Energy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1663" data-t="1663">Harry Suddock. That guy Harry Suddock. I think Harry Suddock would be a good secretary of the energy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1669">27:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1669" data-t="1669">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1671" data-t="1671">Harry Suttgart probably would be a good choice.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1674" data-t="1674">I agree.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1675">27:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1675" data-t="1675">Secretary of transportation? Who could be the secretary of transportation?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1679">27:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1679" data-t="1679">Well, I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1680" data-t="1680">there there's a lot of good candidates for it because so many Bitcoiners</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1684" data-t="1684">do so much traveling to all these different conferences all over the world. I think</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1690">28:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1690" data-t="1690">there were I can't remember his name. Sid, the guy that he rode the Harley Davidson all across he went to every Bitcoin meetup in the country on his Harley Davidson.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1699" data-t="1699">He might be a dark horse for,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1702" data-t="1702">secretary of transportation. He knows he knows the interstate highway system, the bridges.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1707" data-t="1707">He knows how to bridge</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1708" data-t="1708">Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1709" data-t="1709">meetups,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1711">28:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1711" data-t="1711">bridge the culture, bridge people from a geographic standpoint.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1715">28:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1715" data-t="1715">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1716" data-t="1716">So, I mean, you know, David Bailey's got his work ahead of him brokering this deal with Trump to make sure Bitcoiners get into,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1726" data-t="1726">his cabinet when he gets selected</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1729" data-t="1729">in November.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1732">28:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1732" data-t="1732">Secretary of Defense?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1734" data-t="1734">I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1735" data-t="1735">that's Mike Hobart. Be my choice.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1738">28:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1738" data-t="1738">He'd be a good one.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1739" data-t="1739">But, you know, the interesting thing about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1742" data-t="1742">the Secretary of Defense is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1745" data-t="1745">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1746" data-t="1746">I mean, Jason Lowry would be a good choice for that as well. But True. The landscape is changing because at this point,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1755" data-t="1755">that job more so encompasses</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1758">29:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1758" data-t="1758">protecting the Bitcoin network and defending</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1761" data-t="1761">it from spammers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1763" data-t="1763">from shitcoiners,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1764" data-t="1764">from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1766" data-t="1766">attackers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1767" data-t="1767">And it becomes less about</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1772">29:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1772" data-t="1772">invading other countries to introduce democracy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1776">29:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1776" data-t="1776">And so Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1778" data-t="1778">Yeah. I agree.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1781" data-t="1781">They also made me think that it would be great to have a real good</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1785" data-t="1785">Bitcoiner,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1786" data-t="1786">homeschooler</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1788" data-t="1788">type of influencer as a secretary of education. Somebody who could get</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1793">29:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1793" data-t="1793">a Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1795" data-t="1795">universal Bitcoin curriculum in every home through the Orange Hill app that people could homeschool their kids using that, you know, in Bitcoin app, something on the lightning net. Yeah. I mean, that would be that would be interesting. I wonder if the government is gonna, you know, actually</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1810">30:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1810" data-t="1810">integrate Orange Pill app into any of their services because there's a lot of there's a lot of good info. Like, you know, Orange Pill app would make taxation,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1818" data-t="1818">you know, really easy because they already have an elaborate list of a lot of different Bitcoiners that they know already have.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1826">30:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1826" data-t="1826">Imagine if you could dissociate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1829" data-t="1829">Michael Saylor's digital ID on chain,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1832" data-t="1832">your orange pill app, and then just send that ordinal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1836" data-t="1836">to every Bitcoin exchange you wanted to handle all your KYC. Wait. Wait. Wait. That's his orange pill app. That's who he is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1843" data-t="1843">He's also a customer on on on River. He's also a customer on Strike, on Swamp,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1849">30:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1849" data-t="1849">Cash App. Yeah. I mean, that's one of the problems with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1852" data-t="1852">you know, sitting sitting in a government</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1855" data-t="1855">situate you know, position is all the information is so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1860" data-t="1860">segmented all over the place. There isn't a single</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1863" data-t="1863">single point to to go and reference the KYC data that I know. Maybe they maybe they kinda,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1870" data-t="1870">they</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1872">31:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1872" data-t="1872">they do calls to all these databases,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1874" data-t="1874">you know, to to pull the the seg segregated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1878" data-t="1878">information and put it in one place.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1881">31:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1881" data-t="1881">Right. I mean that is that's that's where they got the idea</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1884" data-t="1884">calling the Segwit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1886" data-t="1886">or soft fork segregated witness because that's what the that's what was the reason we had nine eleven</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1893" data-t="1893">Is the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, they all have this information about people, about the citizens, about terrorists, about their plans. Like the the witness</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1903" data-t="1903">is that data. So that witness gives testimony to that person's actions. But we had nine eleven because all these all these different bureaucracies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1912" data-t="1912">their data, their witness was segregated.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1914">31:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1914" data-t="1914">Now you can combine that onto the blockchain,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1917" data-t="1917">and now you don't you no longer have this segregation of data. You can connect it with a hash. Super useful. Well, you know, speaking of, like, the government having all the data on everybody, so something</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1929">32:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1929" data-t="1929">and this kind of makes me think of the the topic of, you know, CIA false flags.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1935" data-t="1935">The</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1938" data-t="1938">congress</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1939" data-t="1939">voted to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1941" data-t="1941">automatically enroll everybody in the selective service,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1945" data-t="1945">this week.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1946">32:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1946" data-t="1946">That was a big announcement. And I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1949" data-t="1949">just one of the things that, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1953" data-t="1953">know, I you'd look at to determine that Bitcoin is already one</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1957" data-t="1957">is what is Bitcoin fixing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1960" data-t="1960">in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1961" data-t="1961">in our economy and in our society?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1964">32:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1964" data-t="1964">We used to, if we had to go to war, we had to defend democracy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1969" data-t="1969">Everybody who lived in that democracy would have to fill out a card and send it in.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1974" data-t="1974">Government would say, alright, we've got this guy's information.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1977" data-t="1977">If we have to have a war, we know who to call.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1980" data-t="1980">Who's right? Who's down to defend democracy with us? They've let us know. They've signaled to us who they're down to defend democracy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1987" data-t="1987">But because of Bitcoin, everybody's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1989">33:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1989" data-t="1989">wanted to buy Bitcoin. You know, the only people who really buy Bitcoin are the alpha males, the the men who can fight war and win.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1997" data-t="1997">They already buy Bitcoin. We have their KYC information. You could just use that. We know where they live, they know how much money they have, we know how responsible and helpful now they are. Now we know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2008" data-t="2008">based on this information that we can already just find those people who are down to defend democracy. We don't need to have them send that that in anymore. So Bitcoin is fixed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2017" data-t="2017">The the the act or the logistics</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2019">33:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2019" data-t="2019">behind defending democracy. Well, I mean, the the stakes have gotten a lot higher too,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2025" data-t="2025">you know, because as government</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2027" data-t="2027">increases their</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2029" data-t="2029">their size of their Bitcoin stack,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2032" data-t="2032">it means that there there's more of something to defend. Whereas before,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2038" data-t="2038">it wasn't a big deal as big of a deal</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2042">34:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2042" data-t="2042">if,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2043" data-t="2043">you know, foreign adversary came in and, you know, looted and pillaged because, you know, it wasn't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2048" data-t="2048">the world's most</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2050">34:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2050" data-t="2050">scarce asset. And they had to be motivated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2054" data-t="2054">and strong enough to make it to Kentucky to steal the gold.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2058">34:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2058" data-t="2058">Mhmm.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2060">34:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2060" data-t="2060">That was pretty hard to do. But now Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2063" data-t="2063">You could just I mean, there's a there's a lot of different ways where you could steal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2068" data-t="2068">America's Bitcoin. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2070" data-t="2070">Well, you just have to steal computers.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2073">34:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2073" data-t="2073">Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2074">34:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2074" data-t="2074">I mean, there's there's definite</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2078" data-t="2078">definitely a lot of hacking groups that are, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2081" data-t="2081">salivating at the idea of being able to get like, imagine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2085" data-t="2085">if if and when Trump saves Social Security</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2089" data-t="2089">by,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2091" data-t="2091">you know, going on a Bitcoin standard.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2094">34:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2094" data-t="2094">You know, what what happens if a North Korean hacker</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2098" data-t="2098">guru goes in and drains</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2100" data-t="2100">America's social security funds? Like, how</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2103" data-t="2103">how detrimental would that be for the country?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2106">35:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2106" data-t="2106">It would be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2108" data-t="2108">huge problem</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2109" data-t="2109">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2111" data-t="2111">I think that would be enough</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2115" data-t="2115">to get consensus</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2116" data-t="2116">from the from the people in The United States that it was time to go to war with North Korea and finally give them democracy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2123">35:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2123" data-t="2123">Mhmm.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2125">35:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2125" data-t="2125">Well, maybe this is maybe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2127" data-t="2127">this is Donald Trump's angle about wanting all the Bitcoin</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2132">35:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2132" data-t="2132">created. United States. Yeah. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2134">35:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2134" data-t="2134">So, I mean, if if America controls all the mining,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2139" data-t="2139">that means they could, you know, potentially do a chain rollback.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2142" data-t="2142">Right?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2143">35:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2143" data-t="2143">Right. Yeah. So they could re yeah. If The United States could trouble mining, we could trouble the hash rate.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2148" data-t="2148">That way,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2149" data-t="2149">if it ever got hacked by China, Russia,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2153" data-t="2153">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2154" data-t="2154">even the even in The United States, if if if a rival political enemy were to, you know, win an election and get access to the Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2162" data-t="2162">if the miners</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2163">36:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2163" data-t="2163">had signaled and the Ashford was in,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2166" data-t="2166">it backed the rightful candidate. The candidate who who was is true, has the most proof of work. And it could just reallivize the chain and reset all those transactions that somebody used to steal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2177" data-t="2177">Any transaction where they tried to spend it, and it would you have control over the the rightful</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2183" data-t="2183">American leader, the rightful American democratically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2186" data-t="2186">elected government. Mhmm.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2188">36:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2188" data-t="2188">Yeah. I mean, it it seems like it it could be, you know, a very defensive move on him by by Donald Trump for,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2196" data-t="2196">for wanting something like this. Like, he probably wants all the Bitcoin created in The US because as we all know, Bitcoin mining balances the grid.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2206">36:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2206" data-t="2206">And I think that we have the most balanced grid. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2209">36:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2209" data-t="2209">Well, I think it not only would</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2212" data-t="2212">does Bitcoin mining balance the grid, I think it's the only thing thing that balances the grid. I think that, you know, without Bitcoin mining, the grid is super in balance.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2221">37:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2221" data-t="2221">Right. Exactly. Exactly. The windows, they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2223" data-t="2223">they just sit there. They they don't spin. The</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2228" data-t="2228">the solar panels, they just they don't turn them on because the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2231" data-t="2231">the grid is so unbalanced if they just have to rely on coral. And now, if they got Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2237" data-t="2237">you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2238" data-t="2238">can</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2239">37:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2239" data-t="2239">now fix climate change</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2241" data-t="2241">with balance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2242" data-t="2242">And The United States could lead the charge. United States can fix the climate for the rest of the world who doesn't want seem to be committed to it. No. They they don't care about</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2252">37:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2252" data-t="2252">they don't care about the climate because they don't have Bitcoin. Like, Bitcoin Right. Like, most people most people don't have the luxury</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2259" data-t="2259">of caring about the climate. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2262" data-t="2262">Like, it it's kind of like a double edged sword of, like Right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2266" data-t="2266">You need to care about the climate, but you don't at the same time. It's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2273">37:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2273" data-t="2273">it's because you can't afford to. If you still use a fee on it, it's because you can't save,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2278" data-t="2278">a Bitcoin. And if you can't save,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2280" data-t="2280">and you don't care about long or, you know, low time preference things, you only care about high time preference things.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2286" data-t="2286">So by being able to a little bit about what you have at UN, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2290" data-t="2290">immediately have low time preference.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2292" data-t="2292">That lets you start to think and solve long term problem. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2297">38:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2297" data-t="2297">So I mean,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2298">38:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2298" data-t="2298">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2300" data-t="2300">I think Bitcoin mining</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2302" data-t="2302">is a strangely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2304" data-t="2304">it's kind of a strange thing to say given today's political</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2308" data-t="2308">environment. But I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2309" data-t="2309">if it wasn't for Dennis Porter's hard work, Bitcoin mining in The US probably would have been banned at some point.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2317">38:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2317" data-t="2317">Right. I mean, Dennis just got</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2319" data-t="2319">I'll lead a bill through the Oklahoma</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2322" data-t="2322">Congress. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2323" data-t="2323">the bill</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2324" data-t="2324">encourages</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2325" data-t="2325">minors</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2326">38:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2326" data-t="2326">to come to Oklahoma. That's really all it does. It just says, we need the state of Oklahoma to encourage minors to come here. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2333" data-t="2333">Dennis knows that if you just create a bunch of meaningless,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2336" data-t="2336">low effort,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2338" data-t="2338">nonbinding,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2340" data-t="2340">official legislative policies, and you just pepper the books with these nonbinding, meaningless policies, eventually,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2346" data-t="2346">you've civil attacked</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2348">39:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2348" data-t="2348">legal code. And now the judges, they go, everybody likes this, so I'll just make this legal. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2354">39:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2354" data-t="2354">Yeah. Definitely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2357" data-t="2357">Well, it it's good to see the military acting proactively to to protect the US government's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2363" data-t="2363">Bitcoin stack.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2366" data-t="2366">I I think that's pretty hopeful.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2371">39:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2371" data-t="2371">Wanna give it a call. Makes me feel safer. Makes me feel safe at night.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2374">39:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2374" data-t="2374">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2375" data-t="2375">I I definitely feel safer as a result of that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2380" data-t="2380">Yeah. I I wanna give Peter, you know, the credit where credit's due. Like, he did win</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2386" data-t="2386">his company did win the compliance tournament,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2389" data-t="2389">which is a pretty, you know, massive credential.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2393" data-t="2393">How many there's only two people in the world that can say that they won</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2398">39:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2398" data-t="2398">a bugle election.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2400">39:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2400" data-t="2400">Yeah. Yellow and Peter. Both Europeans,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2403" data-t="2403">coincidentally.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2403">40:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" data-t="2403">Oh, man.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2405" data-t="2405">I didn't even think about that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2407" data-t="2407">That's kinda interesting, actually.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2409">40:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2409" data-t="2409">Maybe they maybe Europe is is a community there is a little undervalued.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2414" data-t="2414">DTC Pride would like a great time. Looks like they're winning over there. Maybe we were wrong.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2420" data-t="2420">We made fun of them too much.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2422">40:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2422" data-t="2422">Yeah. Well, I mean, we're we're in a race with with Europe because, you know, the we want North America to have more Bitcoin than Europe at the end of the day because we we wanna be able to dominate them in the same way we have since World War II.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2438" data-t="2438">We want to control their policy. We want to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2442" data-t="2442">station troops in all their countries</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2444" data-t="2444">to protect their Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2446" data-t="2446">We want</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2447" data-t="2447">to</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2448">40:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2448" data-t="2448">we,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2449" data-t="2449">the people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2451" data-t="2451">voting in this democracy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2452" data-t="2452">and upholding</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2455" data-t="2455">the Constitution</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2456" data-t="2456">and holding the,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2459">40:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2459" data-t="2459">at times, non compliant government</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2461" data-t="2461">accountable.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2465" data-t="2465">We we are the ones essentially,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2467" data-t="2467">you know, dominating Europe right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2470" data-t="2470">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2471" data-t="2471">It's a great perspective. You and me, we're dominating Europe</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2476">41:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2476" data-t="2476">democratically.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2477" data-t="2477">And and that's the thing that's important. You know, when you look at The United States' actions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2481" data-t="2481">in other countries and the way that they meddle and and and control things, you know, it's it's being done democratically. And that's the thing that's important to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2490" data-t="2490">to understand is because most of these other countries that are being dominated, you know, they're dictatorships</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2495" data-t="2495">or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2496" data-t="2496">or, you know, they're not</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2498">41:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2498" data-t="2498">democratic like The United States is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2501" data-t="2501">They're it's not a constitutional</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2502" data-t="2502">republic.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2503" data-t="2503">And so therefore,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2505" data-t="2505">we have the moral,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2507" data-t="2507">you know, high ground and and imperative to go in and subjugate them for being</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2513">41:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2513" data-t="2513">less advanced than us to in order to help them become more advanced.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2518">41:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2518" data-t="2518">Help them become more civilized.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2520" data-t="2520">Mhmm.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2522" data-t="2522">Right. It's it's a civilizing it's a civilizing force, a civilizing incentive.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2527" data-t="2527">It's great that we, even, you know, eighty years after World War two, could still provide that. Yeah. I mean, what do you what do you think Donald Trump's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2536">42:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2536" data-t="2536">response to Iran</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2538" data-t="2538">will be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2539" data-t="2539">when he gets selected in November.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2543">42:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2543" data-t="2543">He'll probably</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2545" data-t="2545">signal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2546" data-t="2546">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2547" data-t="2547">Europe by letting them in. It's been a while since we've done something together.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2553" data-t="2553">You guys have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2555" data-t="2555">been doing a good job on the Bitcoin side.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2558">42:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2558" data-t="2558">I'm gonna reward you by letting you your your planes and bombs help us bomb Iran. It'll be like a good exercise</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2565" data-t="2565">in,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2566" data-t="2566">like team building</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2567" data-t="2567">A little bomb I ran together with Western Europe.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2570" data-t="2570">Uh-huh. Really great diplomatic action.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2573">42:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2573" data-t="2573">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2574" data-t="2574">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2575" data-t="2575">you know, we we kinda went off the rails as far so I'm gonna knock a a couple</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2581" data-t="2581">of these</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2582" data-t="2582">topics off our list,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2585" data-t="2585">so we can get to the fountain boost real quick. But, did you wanna talk about the,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2590">43:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2590" data-t="2590">the compliance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2591" data-t="2591">awards around the tournament?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2594">43:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2594" data-t="2594">Yeah. Yeah. I wanna hit two things real quick here. So we'll talk about the compliance again. And congratulations to want Bitcoin dead and Peter McCormack.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2601" data-t="2601">He was he was very active and very,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2604" data-t="2604">strong advocate for himself even though he had some very, tough competition.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2609" data-t="2609">We also had the, the compliance king, and that was Brian Arrington. He did a great job leading the compliance effort to get full to the championship,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2618" data-t="2618">to become the runner-up.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2620" data-t="2620">And then back to Emily at, she some people call it a Caitlin Clark of compliance, and she got Maker Watch, the Elite eight. It's a young up and coming startup.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2630">43:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2630" data-t="2630">They don't even have customers yet, and they they got all the way to the Elite eight. It was really awesome.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2635" data-t="2635">And then,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2636" data-t="2636">Mr. Congeniality,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2637" data-t="2637">really la early round loss for Swan.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2641" data-t="2641">Really had higher hopes for them as a one seed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2643" data-t="2643">But, Steven Lopka, he just absolutely</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2647">44:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2647" data-t="2647">embraced</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2648" data-t="2648">the the grind and embraced the process and the opportunity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2652" data-t="2652">thick and thin, left it all out on the timeline.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2655" data-t="2655">So he gets the mister Congeniality</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2656" data-t="2656">Award.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2658" data-t="2658">And then</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2659">44:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2659" data-t="2659">before we go to the fountain boost, I just wanted to circle back to a story that we published a few weeks ago about using</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2666" data-t="2666">DTC Sessions,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2668" data-t="2668">Launchbot</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2669" data-t="2669">as as a as an advertisement for your brand and your company. And in only these past few weeks, I have seen more selfies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2676" data-t="2676">with BTC Sessions at Bitcoin conferences. So it's great to see that these influencers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2682" data-t="2682">and these these companies were able to exploit BTC sessions and his his very, very well</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2688">44:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2688" data-t="2688">recognized</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2689" data-t="2689">little hair,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2691" data-t="2691">his little hair dye stripe,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2693">44:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2693" data-t="2693">to really elevate their their brand. I want to yeah. I mean, I wanna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2698" data-t="2698">experiment with this this tool even more. And I wonder if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2703" data-t="2703">we could</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2705" data-t="2705">use it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2707" data-t="2707">like, it's one thing to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2709" data-t="2709">to spotlight</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2710">45:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2710" data-t="2710">your logo on his hair when he's talking to the conference. But what</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2714" data-t="2714">like, a lot of these these tweets, they go</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2718" data-t="2718">more viral than,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2721" data-t="2721">you know, the conference speeches. So I wonder if it'd be more valuable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2725" data-t="2725">than sitting in,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2726" data-t="2726">listening to the conference</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2729">45:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2729" data-t="2729">and and and putting your logo on here. I</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2731">45:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2731" data-t="2731">think nobody's gonna watch those speeches. They're, you know, people don't have time to watch a half hour long video.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2737" data-t="2737">They see a selfie on the timeline, and they give it a like and a retweet often. So I think it's I think people took on an idea and they just streamlined it. They open sourced it. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2747">45:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2747" data-t="2747">Well, I'm I'm looking at this picture,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2749" data-t="2749">you know, the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2751" data-t="2751">BTC sessions.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2753" data-t="2753">There's like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2754" data-t="2754">a guy who looks about as tall as Big Sean Harris and then a girl in yoga pants,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2760" data-t="2760">one of the few women in Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2764">46:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2764" data-t="2764">And one thing I know about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2766" data-t="2766">women in yoga pants is they often go viral on Twitter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2771" data-t="2771">And so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2773" data-t="2773">having your logo in his hair when they're taking that picture</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2777" data-t="2777">post would it's just way</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2779" data-t="2779">way better</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2781">46:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2781" data-t="2781">ROI</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2782" data-t="2782">on the investment</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2783" data-t="2783">for the sponsorship in the first place.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2786">46:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2786" data-t="2786">Wow. Yeah. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2788" data-t="2788">it's your like I said, vibrant community, a lot of people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2792" data-t="2792">really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2793" data-t="2793">boosting brand awareness. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2796">46:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2796" data-t="2796">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2797" data-t="2797">let's get through the the final wow. We didn't even say so we're recording on on Sunday, so it's Father's Day, which is part of the reason why we're trying to rush through this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2806" data-t="2806">Or not necessarily rush through it, but we have to stay on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2810" data-t="2810">a on a schedule. But, yeah. Happy Father's Day, everyone.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2814">46:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2814" data-t="2814">Yeah. What a what a great year. What a great Father's Day.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2817" data-t="2817">I hope you guys enjoyed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2819" data-t="2819">it. I hope you guys were, like, as it falls deep in the Bitcoin community and and Twitter as we were on Father's Day.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2825">47:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2825" data-t="2825">Yeah. I mean, think about, like, all those Bitcoiner fathers out there raising their kids on Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2831" data-t="2831">on a Bitcoin standard and and and how different that is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2835" data-t="2835">And, like, I I really wanna honor, you know, the fathers out there living on a Bitcoin standard doing a good job showing up for their kids. You know, being able to bring things like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2845" data-t="2845">low time preference</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2847" data-t="2847">into the family. It's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2849">47:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2849" data-t="2849">Raw milk.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2850">47:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2850" data-t="2850">Raw milk,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2852" data-t="2852">you know, different tanning,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2856" data-t="2856">strategies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2858" data-t="2858">carnivore diet, giving your kids cigarettes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2862" data-t="2862">just all the important stuff that, like, a lot of the Fiat families are</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2866">47:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2866" data-t="2866">not Good. You're better. Practicing. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2871">47:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2871" data-t="2871">Well, for the first found a boost,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2874" data-t="2874">Orange Mart boosted us for 21,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2876" data-t="2876">sats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2877" data-t="2877">Thank you, Orange Mart, and said,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2880" data-t="2880">clapping emoji. The bugle is the Bitcoin standard of journalism</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2884" data-t="2884">with the trophy emoji.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2886">48:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2886" data-t="2886">And then it says, Orange Mart is a proud sponsor proud to sponsor it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2890" data-t="2890">Here's another 21,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2891" data-t="2891">sats to keep the good vibes going. Treat yourself to something nice.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2897" data-t="2897">Heart emoji. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2899" data-t="2899">Orange Mart is responding to the ad that we played,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2903" data-t="2903">last week for them on the show, which is, you know, you made it. It was a very high quality ad.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2911">48:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2911" data-t="2911">Yeah, I mean, anybody can sponsor the show. You you sponsor the show through boosting us. And, you know, if we like you and we like what you're about and you're you're part of this intellectual silk road, we might</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2924" data-t="2924">we might even,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2925" data-t="2925">Right. Make run ad for you on it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2928">48:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2928" data-t="2928">Cigarettes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2929" data-t="2929">make you more creative and they make you more smart. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2933" data-t="2933">if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2934" data-t="2934">if I'm smoking a cigarette feeling creative and you're the person who bought that cigarette for me, I'm probably gonna make an ad for you. Think of it that way. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2943">49:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2943" data-t="2943">But but I think the the thing that's important, you know, to for the audience to understand is, like, you know, we we are a community funded,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2953" data-t="2953">show. And so, you know, you have to be a part of the intellectual</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2957" data-t="2957">dark web. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2959" data-t="2959">I don't know if people have noticed recently, but we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2963" data-t="2963">kicked</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2963">Podkomp</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2965">49:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2965" data-t="2965">to the side. And we're not really running ads for them anymore.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2970" data-t="2970">And they're they sent us an email</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2973" data-t="2973">that's held in full of legalese that I've currently ignored.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2979" data-t="2979">They're not very happy about it. But I think it's important to take the stand here. But, yeah, we want to support</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2984" data-t="2984">the intellectual silk road,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2986" data-t="2986">and I would say Orange Mart is a part of that. And, yeah, appreciate you showing up and, boosting the show on a weekly basis.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2994">49:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2994" data-t="2994">Yeah. It should it shouldn't go. I mentioned that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2997" data-t="2997">being a part of the intellectual silk road is what gives you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3001" data-t="3001">the ability, the confidence, and the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3003" data-t="3003">safety to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3005" data-t="3005">basically break your contract with PodComp and start, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3009" data-t="3009">talking about stuff you care about. 100%.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3011">50:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3011" data-t="3011">The next one is from,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3015" data-t="3015">my phone crashed. Here we go. User 83306501.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3020" data-t="3020">They didn't say anything. They just based it 20000¢.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3022" data-t="3022">So user with a bunch of numbers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3025" data-t="3025">Thank you. Appreciate that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3028" data-t="3028">You come across.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3029">50:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3029" data-t="3029">We could we could try and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3032" data-t="3032">describe to the audience the profile picture. I'm having trouble seeing. It's really small on my skirt, Small on my, typewriter. Let me</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3040" data-t="3040">zoom in. I think it's a A hot emo check.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3044">50:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3044" data-t="3044">A hot emo check.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3047" data-t="3047">So we we have a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3049" data-t="3049">a booster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3051" data-t="3051">that is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3053">50:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3053" data-t="3053">might be a woman, a cute woman. So that's interesting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3057">50:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3057" data-t="3057">That's been a trend I've been seeing recently. But now it's a really high signal content.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3062">51:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3062" data-t="3062">Yeah. Well, thank you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3064" data-t="3064">user 83306501.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3071" data-t="3071">The next boost is from fundamentals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3074" data-t="3074">for 10,101</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3076" data-t="3076">sats. And, he says, very high quality episode.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3080" data-t="3080">I suspect a no k KYC benefactor has hired you for some hired you some extra producers and journalists.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3088">51:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3088" data-t="3088">Suss. Keep it up.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3092" data-t="3092">Yeah. You know, Fundamentals has been, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3095" data-t="3095">trying to accuse me of drinking too much. He's been trying to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3101" data-t="3101">you know, just throw shade on on what we're doing, which I don't really understand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3105" data-t="3105">because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3106" data-t="3106">he's definitely part of the intellectual silk road.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3110">51:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3110" data-t="3110">Oh, yeah. 100%. He's like the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3113" data-t="3113">mathematician.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3114">51:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3114" data-t="3114">We we have not hired six producers. I mean, you can see how much,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3120" data-t="3120">you know, we're getting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3121" data-t="3121">boosted on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3124" data-t="3124">here on Fallon,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3125" data-t="3125">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3127" data-t="3127">everything</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3129">52:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3129" data-t="3129">I I don't really know what to say. Like, I I wish it was true. I wish that we had successor producers and I I guess, you know, the audience will be able to see when that if and when that ever happens.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3140">52:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3140" data-t="3140">Yeah. I mean, it's it's a it's a compliment, I guess, even though it's veiled in criticism.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3146">52:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3146" data-t="3146">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3147" data-t="3147">Whatever fundamentals. That's what I have to say. Thank you for the boost. Oh, damn.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3151">52:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3151" data-t="3151">My, you know, my boost, so I gave it was 10,000 because I just thought it was my signal, and that's what it deserved.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3157" data-t="3157">Then we've got 2,121</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3160" data-t="3160">stats from we all eat.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3162" data-t="3162">He says in all caps,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3164" data-t="3164">blow your compliance horn for the bugle and punk dog. Thank you so much. Blow your blow your compliance horn, I agree. Yeah. We we all eat, freak out. Been a supporter of the bugle since day one. Really appreciate it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3179">52:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3179" data-t="3179">You know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3180" data-t="3180">Enoch</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3181" data-t="3181">coming in again, one thousand sat says the news source knows</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3187" data-t="3187">the news source knows as the bugle</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3190" data-t="3190">I don't know what that means.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3193" data-t="3193">I think he's gonna read it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3195">53:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3195" data-t="3195">The news source knows</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3197" data-t="3197">yeah. I think he means known. Known as the bugle, with truth, no chance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3202" data-t="3202">that is frugal,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3203" data-t="3203">pulling no punches, following its hunches, the weight of the world, it juggles.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3209">53:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3209" data-t="3209">I spy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3211">53:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3211" data-t="3211">Yeah. I I appreciate it. I mean, I I could see Tip NZ using lyrics like that in one of her songs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3219" data-t="3219">But, yeah, Enoch I don't know if you remember Enoch, but, you know, Enoch boosted the show a while back calling us, Marxist or something like that. Oh, yeah. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3229" data-t="3229">just, you know, really, like, offensive, but, you know, seems to have done a complete one eighty and now gets it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3236">53:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3236" data-t="3236">Good for him. Next one, we've got another user,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3240" data-t="3240">17970066.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3243" data-t="3243">They've listed a thousand sats. No message, but appreciate the sats. Our our good friend, Philip</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3249">54:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3249" data-t="3249">d</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3250" data-t="3250">McCombs, boosted us for 447</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3253" data-t="3253">sats and said expect us.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3256">54:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3256" data-t="3256">Okay. We don't we don't debug that stuff anymore. But yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3259" data-t="3259">Yeah. Then we got sats meet. 100 sats, three podcasts. First time listening. I didn't realize it with sarcasm so, like, the two minutes in. Also, kudos to your country intro.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3269" data-t="3269">Unique and deaf.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3270" data-t="3270">Thank you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3273" data-t="3273">I'll forgive you since this is your first time listening. This is not sarcasm. This is, very real, very potential, very serious need. But, I think you'll you'll realize that, but we're listening.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3283">54:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3283" data-t="3283">Well, I mean, I think there's a reason why people have a have trouble</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3289" data-t="3289">understanding,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3290" data-t="3290">you know, the stuff that we're putting out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3293" data-t="3293">because having</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3295" data-t="3295">as high of quality journalism as we provide</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3298" data-t="3298">is so foreign</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3300">54:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3300" data-t="3300">to people. They don't they don't really know what to make of it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3302">55:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3302" data-t="3302">Seems like it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3305">55:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3305" data-t="3305">Yeah. I mean, so, like, when when you think so there's these stories</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3309" data-t="3309">of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3311" data-t="3311">you know, the these tribes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3313" data-t="3313">in remote areas of the world that that encounter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3317" data-t="3317">modern technology for the first time. And they think it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3322" data-t="3322">they think people are gods.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3325">55:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3325" data-t="3325">And I think that's kind of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3327" data-t="3327">how people view us. But it's important to remember that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3331" data-t="3331">Rod and I,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3334" data-t="3334">we're not super beings, we're not gods, we're just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3338" data-t="3338">credentialed journalists</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3340" data-t="3340">working</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3341">55:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3341" data-t="3341">and covering the news around Bitcoin related topics.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3345" data-t="3345">And that's kind of a unique and new phenomenon.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3349" data-t="3349">You</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3350" data-t="3350">know, people have been largely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3352" data-t="3352">educated by, you know, pod comp influencers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3355" data-t="3355">and non credentialed podcasters.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3358">55:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3358" data-t="3358">And so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3361" data-t="3361">I think that's probably where the confusion came from.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3365" data-t="3365">And then our last That's incredible.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3367" data-t="3367">Yeah. Our last boost from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3369" data-t="3369">asnide</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3370" data-t="3370">37,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3372">56:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3372" data-t="3372">for 100 stats asked, is the theme song on wave lake?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3376" data-t="3376">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3378" data-t="3378">it wasn't when you asked,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3380" data-t="3380">but now it is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3382" data-t="3382">And I made sure to respond with the wave lake link.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3386" data-t="3386">If anybody wants to,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3390">56:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3390" data-t="3390">to listen to the people weekly themes, I'll be updating them weekly on Wave Lake.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3396" data-t="3396">So you can go there and check them out. But, yeah, that wraps up the page. Thank you, everybody.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3401">56:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3401" data-t="3401">Thank you. You keep coming.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3406">56:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3406" data-t="3406">Good show. Good show. I mean, it's just, you know, it's been a busy news week. I'm feeling a little bit overwhelmed. I feel like we could, you know, go for, like, another six hours, but, you know, it's Father's Day. We have stuff to do.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3417" data-t="3417">Do you have any closing thoughts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3419" data-t="3419">for today, Rod?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3421">57:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3421" data-t="3421">I would just say be be with the psy ops and the civil attacks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3425" data-t="3425">The war</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3426" data-t="3426">war war making you think there's more influencers and opinions than there really is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3432" data-t="3432">is at its peak right now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3434">57:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3434" data-t="3434">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3436" data-t="3436">I I've got two two thoughts. So I know RFK Jr. Is feeling a little bit let down by,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3443" data-t="3443">David Bailey and and the crew at Ordinals magazine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3446" data-t="3446">jumping on the Trump train.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3449" data-t="3449">And that's just, you know, one of the realities, RFK,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3452" data-t="3452">is, you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3454">57:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3454" data-t="3454">when you're a winner,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3456" data-t="3456">like the former president and and probably future president,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3461" data-t="3461">you get these opportunities. But if you're a loser,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3464" data-t="3464">like you're you are right now,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3467" data-t="3467">you're just gonna be left in the shadows. You know, people are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3470" data-t="3470">you know, ultimately have to be opportunists</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3473">57:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3473" data-t="3473">as the type of person that David is. He's taking advantage of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3476" data-t="3476">the situation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3477" data-t="3477">and, you know, you're just being left in the dust because he didn't he he just didn't understand the game theory.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3485" data-t="3485">And so I would say that, you know, go go read a little bit on game theory, RFK, and, you know, stop feeling so, like, betrayed.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3492">58:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3492" data-t="3492">Yep. I think we can all learn to to read a little more game theory. It's a good fight for everybody.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3498">58:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3498" data-t="3498">Yeah. I mean, it's it's one of the it's one of the problems with, you know, hanging your hat on the PodConf</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3506" data-t="3506">hat rack is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3508" data-t="3508">they they can drop you at any moment, that it feels advantageous. There's no loyalty from PodConf.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3516">58:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3516" data-t="3516">I was just worried about the PodConf.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3519">58:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Dick Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3519" data-t="3519">Yeah. Exactly. Well, I think that that wraps up the show. Wanna thank everybody for boosting us, and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3525" data-t="3525">tune again next week.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3528">58:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3528" data-t="3528">See you.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3531">58:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3531" data-t="3531">That concludes this week's episode of the Bugle Weekly, the most thermodynamically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3535" data-t="3535">sound podcast in news.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3538" data-t="3538">Make sure to stop and boost the show before you leave.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3541" data-t="3541">Your support helps spread real credentialed journalism to the masses.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3546" data-t="3546">Bitcoin has already won, and now the real revolution is reclaiming the news from the CIA.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3552" data-t="3552">This is the intellectual</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3553">59:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3553" data-t="3553">silk road. This is the Bugle Weekly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3556" data-t="3556">See you next week.</span></span></p>