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diff --git a/wiki/transcripts/the-emperor-has-no-entropy-bugle-weekly-episode-120.md b/wiki/transcripts/the-emperor-has-no-entropy-bugle-weekly-episode-120.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..f91ca73c @@ -0,0 +1,445 @@ +--- +title: "Transcript: The Emperor Has No Entropy | Bugle Weekly Episode 120" +type: transcript +episode: the-emperor-has-no-entropy-bugle-weekly-episode-120 +generated: true +date: 2026-08-10 +audio: "https://feeds.fountain.fm/R8scBF2Wiykm0YVldsHQ/items/97Gy3iFp9spFiK9U2C8i/files/AUDIO---DEFAULT---62ff6594-0ca6-4b5c-ac70-54cf30a6ec25.mp3" +duration: "1:07:39" +sources: + - raw/episodes/the-emperor-has-no-entropy-bugle-weekly-episode-120/bundle.json +--- + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-0">0:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-0" data-t="0">Plebs grow up hearing You gotta run a node. You gotta rent Hashrate. You gotta buy a cold card wallet. You gotta defend Bitcoin from the scammers. You have to pay Matthew Crowder $790</span> <span class="cue" id="t-10" data-t="10">for Bitcoin University.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-12">0:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-12" data-t="12">Man, is it time to change the narrative. Our mental health is just as important as our node's health. If you're having a rough time right now, reach out for help in the group chats.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-21">0:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-21" data-t="21">There is no reason to be broadcasting your crash out online.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-26" data-t="26">While a pleb node has no influence in forming consensus in the Bitcoin network,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-31" data-t="31">a pleb has influence</span> <span class="cue" id="t-33" data-t="33">in forming consensus in their community.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-35" data-t="35">Your node may not matter, but you do.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-38">0:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-38" data-t="38">Yeah. Welcome back to the Bugle Weekly. It's been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-42" data-t="42">about two weeks since last episode. And in those two weeks, a lot has changed. A lot of security tests,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-49" data-t="49">the the the foundation of that institution</span> <span class="cue" id="t-52" data-t="52">of this culture</span> <span class="cue" id="t-53" data-t="53">has cracked and crumbled</span> <span class="cue" id="t-56" data-t="56">like, like a high rise in Caracas, Venezuela during an earthquake.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-61">1:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-61" data-t="61">And the cold card I mean, we'll get into the cold card thing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-65" data-t="65">The it was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-67" data-t="67">a true</span> <span class="cue" id="t-68" data-t="68">emperor has no</span> <span class="cue" id="t-70" data-t="70">entropy moment.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-72" data-t="72">The most secure,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-74">1:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-74" data-t="74">the most safe,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-76" data-t="76">the most dependable thing to glaze and to recommend</span> <span class="cue" id="t-80" data-t="80">and to show off as a virtue signal of your careful</span> <span class="cue" id="t-86" data-t="86">consideration of your security risk profile as a self custody holler.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-90" data-t="90">It it was chat the cold card incident like I said, we'll get into it, but it was a chain is a five shift in the culture, in the industry. And then yesterday,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-101" data-t="101">the culmination</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-102">1:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-102" data-t="102">of the dip one ten</span> <span class="cue" id="t-105" data-t="105">reduced data,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-108" data-t="108">temporary soft fork,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-110" data-t="110">the Plebslop rebellion, the the Pleb nodes, the KFAVE,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-113" data-t="113">it, it all came to a head.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-116" data-t="116">The mandatory signaling began,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-119">1:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-119" data-t="119">the Plebs forked off, they got two blocks,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-122" data-t="122">So congratulations to the Roughnecks for those. And now they're now they're nodes are bricked. I warned people. I said, you you will brick your node if you don't stop running us</span> <span class="cue" id="t-132" data-t="132">this weekend.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-133" data-t="133">So the plants have brick nodes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-135" data-t="135">The culture is reassessing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-139" data-t="139">conventional wisdom, all the institutions that held it together, all the podcasts, all the podcasters,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-144">2:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-144" data-t="144">all the sponsors, all the hardware wallets,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-147" data-t="147">everything.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-148" data-t="148">All the rules, all the group chats, all the purity tests.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-153" data-t="153">And here we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-155" data-t="155">are, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-157" data-t="157">know, we</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-158">2:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-158" data-t="158">I thought I heard a sonic boom</span> <span class="cue" id="t-161" data-t="161">outside my window the other night</span> <span class="cue" id="t-163" data-t="163">after this cold park thing happened.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-166" data-t="166">And I think then what it was, it was all the lag all the plaids that were stuck in the fourth turning,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-171" data-t="171">while many of us had joined the first, they were coming in like a concord,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-175" data-t="175">coming straight into the first turning. And I think</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-178">2:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-178" data-t="178">it seems pretty obvious now, but we're all here. Everybody, Bitcoin, Twitter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-185" data-t="185">the the big Bitcoin industry,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-187" data-t="187">plebs, HODLer, WhatPig for Bitcoin or Succoino, CypherPunks,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-191" data-t="191">We're all together now in the first turning, and I think you have to be kinda crazy to deny that given</span> <span class="cue" id="t-198" data-t="198">the year we've had. And while this was all happening,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-203" data-t="203">so was Lake Satoshi taking place and I we have talked at length about Lake Satoshi and how good of an experience it is and how much fun we had last year</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-214">3:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-214" data-t="214">and I was unable to make it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-216" data-t="216">but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-217" data-t="217">you know, we what we have to talk about Lake Satoshi, especially in the context of the time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-223" data-t="223">Because Richard Richard told me</span> <span class="cue" id="t-226" data-t="226">that everybody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-228" data-t="228">at Lake Satoshi this year, when the cold card hack happened,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-231">3:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-231" data-t="231">he told me that everyone was brave.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-234" data-t="234">He said they weren't they weren't too nervous, and most people were crashing out like crazy or they were and they were freaking out, and they were nervous</span> <span class="cue" id="t-242" data-t="242">last week. And many people still are nervous.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-245" data-t="245">It's okay to be nervous, but but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-248" data-t="248">as I expected,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-249" data-t="249">nobody at Lake Satoshi.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-251">4:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-251" data-t="251">I was nervous because it's not the type of people that go to Lake Satoshi.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-255" data-t="255">I'm gonna miss you guys. I miss you guys this year. I will be back next year. Miss you Baba. Miss you John.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-262" data-t="262">I miss you, Otis. Is Otis there?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-266" data-t="266">Yep. Yeah. Yeah. And, and and Rev,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-269" data-t="269">fundamentals,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-270" data-t="270">and if I, you know, pay</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-272">4:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-272" data-t="272">everybody who was out there,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-276" data-t="276">chat, I miss I miss you guys. See you next year.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-279">4:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-279" data-t="279">Yeah. Like, Satosh, it was a very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-285" data-t="285">surreal experience this year. It was very different.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-289" data-t="289">It was a when it rains, it pours situation.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-293" data-t="293">Literally, it rained quite a bit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-296" data-t="296">when we were there. There were a lot of grumpy wives. They weren't happy with the rain.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-301">5:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-301" data-t="301">Mosquitoes?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-304">5:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-304" data-t="304">The mosquitoes were okay. They weren't horrible.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-307" data-t="307">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-310" data-t="310">yeah, it was a a very strange situation where</span> <span class="cue" id="t-315" data-t="315">there was some pleb slop at about BIP one ten. Canute showed up and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-320" data-t="320">was walking around, you know, really,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-325" data-t="325">strutting</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-326">5:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-326" data-t="326">with a lot of confidence. And then this cool card thing happened, and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-331" data-t="331">there were a handful of individuals that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-335" data-t="335">did end up going home and and finding that they lost significant amounts of Bitcoin that I talked to. And, that was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-343" data-t="343">pretty</span> <span class="cue" id="t-344" data-t="344">unfortunate.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-345" data-t="345">But it yeah. I mean, it's it's one of these situations that, you know, anytime you're</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-353">5:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-353" data-t="353">somewhere</span> <span class="cue" data-t="353">and you're not able to be monitoring the situation, there's a significant situation going on,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-360" data-t="360">and you're just sitting standing around talking with people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-364" data-t="364">in person who, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-367" data-t="367">also</span> <span class="cue" id="t-368" data-t="368">are semi monitoring the situation passively.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-372">6:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-372" data-t="372">It's a very, very surreal experience to have that happen. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-378" data-t="378">definitely, I I wanna say the vibes were low, but it definitely put a damper on the vibes, all of the the combination of the rain and, the grumpy wives and the cold car situation. Right. I mean,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-390">6:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-390" data-t="390">everybody knows</span> <span class="cue" id="t-391" data-t="391">that the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-392" data-t="392">the crib chat camping trip, the wives are grumpy in a bear market. Right? And it doesn't help</span> <span class="cue" id="t-399" data-t="399">some of these, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-402" data-t="402">know, if your husband's, you know, renting hash,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-405" data-t="405">that non predicated</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-407">6:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-407" data-t="407">markets and getting them all wrong, leasing SaaS,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-411" data-t="411">and their fold card gets hacked, it's like the wives right now are are sick and tired</span> <span class="cue" id="t-416" data-t="416">of their husbands losing money or their husbands, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-420" data-t="420">savings losing money and that is a real part of this and it's it sounds silly, absurd on the point but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-428" data-t="428">if you're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-430" data-t="430">I don't know anybody who let their wife</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-433">7:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-433" data-t="433">handle self custody for their family</span> <span class="cue" id="t-435" data-t="435">who lost any money.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-437" data-t="437">And I think a lot of husbands</span> <span class="cue" id="t-439" data-t="439">need to take a look in the mirror and maybe think, like, maybe it's time for let my wife pick a hardware wallet.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-446" data-t="446">It is a lot of us take for granted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-448" data-t="448">how many podcasts we listen to</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-450">7:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-450" data-t="450">and how smart we think we are when it comes to all the bases we think we can just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-455" data-t="455">flip on YouTube</span> <span class="cue" id="t-457" data-t="457">and come up to our bookmarks of a BTC sessions tutorial on how to hook your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-462" data-t="462">your cold card up to an Electrum server and use a spare wallet and, you know, get all this stuff done especially when you're nervous as hell</span> <span class="cue" id="t-471" data-t="471">and you think you're racing against time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-474" data-t="474">to</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-475">7:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-475" data-t="475">save</span> <span class="cue" id="t-476" data-t="476">your family's future</span> <span class="cue" id="t-478" data-t="478">and so it's you know I think the solution is we need to take</span> <span class="cue" id="t-483" data-t="483">a more deliberate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-484" data-t="484">rule in our lives for self custody, but a lot of us need to let our lives do it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-490">8:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-490" data-t="490">Well, I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-492" data-t="492">I I felt proud about the situation that we're in. Like, the only type of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-498" data-t="498">hardware sponsorship we've ever taken was from Office Depot paper. Coldcard,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-503" data-t="503">you know, offered us a sponsorship</span> <span class="cue" id="t-505" data-t="505">in the past in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-507" data-t="507">indirectly, I think, and I I wasn't excited about it for a variety of reasons. But</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-514">8:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-514" data-t="514">I mean, they all box too. None. And others. Yeah. I wasn't excited about it. It is I like the guys that did box. I didn't know the guys that I I like Humble d. I always got along with him. We're not we we hung him out. But, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-529" data-t="529">you know, we can brew we can sit here at Berkshire Sigma all day long, but why we never took</span> <span class="cue" id="t-534" data-t="534">sponsors? But at the end of the day, it was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-537" data-t="537">this thing this this show doesn't really work with sponsors. What we're doing doesn't really work with sponsors. So it's kinda like the guys who criticize Tiger Woods for cheating on his supermodel wife and it's like, well, you're not getting the same amount of opportunities</span> <span class="cue" id="t-550" data-t="550">to cheat on your wife as Tiger Woods is. So for you to say that you are a more moral person, you have more moral victories than than Tiger Woods when it comes to being a faithful husband</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-559">9:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-559" data-t="559">that's a little bit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-561" data-t="561">you know it's just a little bit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-562" data-t="562">dishonest and disingenuine.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-565" data-t="565">This podcast is like sponsor repellent.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-568" data-t="568">Right? We are doing what we're doing makes it very easy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-571" data-t="571">for us to turn down sponsors because they don't have that many sponsorship offers.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-576">9:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-576" data-t="576">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-577" data-t="577">that being said</span> <span class="cue" id="t-578" data-t="578">it is a personal decision a lot of people made it I don't fault them for making it I don't blame them for making it but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-586" data-t="586">it is a hot people are facing consequences. The reputations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-591" data-t="591">are in some cases in dumpsters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-594" data-t="594">on on fire because of how they handled</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-597">9:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-597" data-t="597">hardware wallet sponsorships</span> <span class="cue" id="t-599" data-t="599">and recommendations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-601" data-t="601">and onboarding their friends and family,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-603" data-t="603">yada yada, without understanding what they were they weren't they didn't understand it themselves,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-608" data-t="608">and they were recommending it to other people.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-611" data-t="611">That is you know, people people are just gonna have guilt over that. You're not going to jail for this,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-616">10:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-616" data-t="616">but it is gonna be something that's gonna weigh on your conscience. And if it maybe it doesn't weigh on your conscience. But if it doesn't, you know, or but if it does, you probably know why.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-626">10:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-626" data-t="626">Yeah. I I don't know. It just didn't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-629" data-t="629">sit right with me at the end of the day. I read I did that article a long time ago about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-633" data-t="633">how Mossad can infiltrate the, supply chains and and have exploding hardware wallets. And so I guess, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-641" data-t="641">the the the tact vector was different than what I,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-644" data-t="644">you know, was researching or or predicting. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-650" data-t="650">yeah. I don't know. I mean, it it's just like one of those things that is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-656">10:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-656" data-t="656">is difficult is, you're we're we're gonna see the content ecosystem</span> <span class="cue" id="t-660" data-t="660">and and landscape change</span> <span class="cue" id="t-662" data-t="662">a whole lot. I'm not I'm not sharing this I'm not sharing this to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-666" data-t="666">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-668" data-t="668">virtue signal in the sense of, oh, we're smarter, better, you know, whatever, because I don't necessarily think that's the case. I mean, it's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-677" data-t="677">I think we got lucky with preferences,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-680">11:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-680" data-t="680">Or it's just one of the benefits of the preferences that we have is avoiding these types of situations. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-687" data-t="687">yeah. There's a lot of hardware wallets that are, marketing now that they're, you know, safer, more secure because they're they're simpler in in their</span> <span class="cue" id="t-696" data-t="696">advertising to the wives. Like, the,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-700">11:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-700" data-t="700">Bitkey, for example. Key. That I was gonna say, the Bitkey, that this is smart marketing. Right? They are part they're targeting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-708" data-t="708">targeting wives. They're targeting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-710" data-t="710">common law wives.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-711" data-t="711">They're targeting the women the type a women out there who know that they this is where the women you know, I'm not trying to scold you ladies but a lot of you know better</span> <span class="cue" id="t-722" data-t="722">than to be letting your husband</span> <span class="cue" id="t-725" data-t="725">manage the family's entropy. And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-727">12:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-727" data-t="727">this is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-728" data-t="728">listen, we're all coming, we're all facing this problem together. This is one of those things where a lot of people are gonna be angry, they're gonna blame others, they're gonna blame,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-737" data-t="737">the podcasters that any</span> <span class="cue" id="t-739" data-t="739">certainly NVK and Poincite</span> <span class="cue" id="t-742" data-t="742">fucked up huge</span> <span class="cue" id="t-743" data-t="743">but people are just gonna be unwilling</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-746">12:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-746" data-t="746">to or are resistant to really just understanding that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-751" data-t="751">times have changed we are like in this acceleration</span> <span class="cue" id="t-753" data-t="753">or most of human history people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-756" data-t="756">could</span> <span class="cue" id="t-758" data-t="758">take entropy for granted. You did not used to need to know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-762" data-t="762">what entropy was</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-765">12:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-765" data-t="765">and that it was the arrow of time, the entropy and time and thermodynamics.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-767" data-t="767">This is what we learned in podcast, forty hours per week. You didn't have to know these things.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-771" data-t="771">Most people did not until</span> <span class="cue" id="t-774" data-t="774">Thursday of last week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-776" data-t="776">Now there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-778" data-t="778">are frontier we we talked about this. We're pioneers. We're on the frontier, which means that we are on the frontier</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-784">13:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-784" data-t="784">potentially pairing with frontier models</span> <span class="cue" id="t-788" data-t="788">in, you know, powered by these Chinese clankers, and they could be trying to rip us off, or they could be trying to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-795" data-t="795">find vulnerabilities in our software or hardware wallets. And if we don't have enough entropy, we are fucked.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-801" data-t="801">And people are no longer taking entropy for granted, and they can't afford to. And and if you got hit or if you were just lucky, because a lot of people didn't have enough entropy and they just got lucky.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-811" data-t="811">All you can do</span> <span class="cue" id="t-813" data-t="813">is start to incorporate and and get the you need the way you get more entropy in your life begins with forty eight hours per week. That's where you start. That's where we're all starting. That's where we're coming back to if we've gotten away from it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-826">13:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-826" data-t="826">Absolutely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-828" data-t="828">Yeah. Entropy is incredibly important, and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-831" data-t="831">it it I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-833" data-t="833">most of the people that got sucked into the the BIP one ten stuff had</span> <span class="cue" id="t-839" data-t="839">extraordinarily low entropy. Socially, they had</span> <span class="cue" id="t-843" data-t="843">extremely low entropy from a podcast listening standpoint.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-848">14:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-848" data-t="848">They just didn't have a ton of context.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-851" data-t="851">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-853" data-t="853">I don't know. I mean, I I feel like almost</span> <span class="cue" id="t-856" data-t="856">and this is, I think, important, you know, to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-860" data-t="860">to understand and talk about is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-863" data-t="863">it's a bad idea</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-865">14:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-865" data-t="865">I think it's a bad idea</span> <span class="cue" id="t-868" data-t="868">to have all your Bitcoin if you have a significant amount of Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-872" data-t="872">in a single place on a single hardware</span> <span class="cue" id="t-877" data-t="877">provider.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-879" data-t="879">And it and this is kind of like an example of, like, you know, you you need entropy for your your custody solutions too. Not just in c generation, but, like, probably in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-891" data-t="891">custody solutions.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-893">14:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-893" data-t="893">If you have time to dillydally on your node,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-896" data-t="896">do you have time to dillydally on your hardware wallet or your your software wallet or your your multi signature wallet or your paper wallet? I don't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-905" data-t="905">I have no recommendation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-907" data-t="907">or suggestion for how people improve their self custody because I don't know where they're at. I just I I stopped I stopped even trying to speculate.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-917" data-t="917">All I know is if you got time it's it when I was growing up I worked in restaurants</span> <span class="cue" id="t-922" data-t="922">I was told if you have time to leave you have time to clean and people don't work in restaurants anymore</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-929">15:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-929" data-t="929">A lot of those lot of us are you know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-932" data-t="932">raising families</span> <span class="cue" id="t-934" data-t="934">going to work every day for fiat mining whatever it is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-938" data-t="938">but if you have time to dillydally on your PLEBNO on your Start9 PLEBNO so you can virtue signal to all your little group chats about how you know how much you believe Bitcoin is money fine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-948" data-t="948">But if you have time to do that you have time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-951" data-t="951">to roll dice, add a little bit more entropy</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-954">15:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-954" data-t="954">to your routine, to your self custody setup. If you do that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-959" data-t="959">I think you'll be in a better position than you were yesterday.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-962" data-t="962">And that's all you can do because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-964" data-t="964">as I was saying,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-966" data-t="966">it used to be so much easier and safer to be a bled.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-970" data-t="970">But now</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-972">16:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-972" data-t="972">there are clanker pirates all over the digital the digital ocean that is the Internet.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-978" data-t="978">And CloudFlare is not doing a good job</span> <span class="cue" id="t-980" data-t="980">of filtering them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-982" data-t="982">NOS is not doing a good job of filtering.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-985" data-t="985">And it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-987" data-t="987">our our grandparents use and our and our our parents are getting hit by phishing people calling on their phone,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-993">16:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-993" data-t="993">and clubs are getting hit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-994" data-t="994">by clankers in the group chat and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-997" data-t="997">just don't make yourself a victim.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-999" data-t="999">You can't completely avoid it but you wanna have enough entropy in your life</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1004" data-t="1004">that these clankers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1006" data-t="1006">are not gonna be able to easily</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1008">16:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1008" data-t="1008">steal your future.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1011">16:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1011" data-t="1011">Yep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1012" data-t="1012">What</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1013" data-t="1013">about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1014" data-t="1014">Well, yeah. Go ahead. Well, one of one of the responses</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1017" data-t="1017">that has been interesting is this, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1021" data-t="1021">a lot of individuals saying that they're not gonna self custody after this. Like, they they're like, we can't self custody anymore. We have to pay for Bitcoin or whatever. And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1031">17:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1031" data-t="1031">they're thinking, like, raw numbers of Bitcoin stolen.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1036" data-t="1036">The soft custody or sorry.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1038" data-t="1038">Yeah. You know?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1040" data-t="1040">How how many Bitcoin do you think, speculatively,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1043" data-t="1043">like, maybe, like, a thousand Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1045" data-t="1045">or a little bit over a thousand Bitcoin</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1048">17:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1048" data-t="1048">swaps</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1049" data-t="1049">from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1050" data-t="1050">cold</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1051">17:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1051" data-t="1051">card?</span> <span class="cue" data-t="1051">Yeah. Yeah. About last I checked, I think it was, like, 1,500. Maybe maybe it's up to 2,000. I don't know. And it is also, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1058" data-t="1058">you know, at this point, there could be a 100 different people out there doing it. So but the the initial wave was about a 500</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1065" data-t="1065">the first day, like, 500 the night.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1068">17:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1068" data-t="1068">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1069" data-t="1069">The amount of Bitcoin that has been swept off of exchanges,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1073" data-t="1073">you know, whether through</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1075" data-t="1075">accounts getting compromised</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1078" data-t="1078">due to bad security practices by the exchange or through</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1084" data-t="1084">phishing attacks or or taps or, you know, whatever. It's just like it is astoundingly</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1090">18:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1090" data-t="1090">the or exchanges</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1091" data-t="1091">going under. It it's so much significantly higher</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1095" data-t="1095">than individuals that have been compromised in self custody.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1099">18:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1099" data-t="1099">I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1101" data-t="1101">yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1103" data-t="1103">I just think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1105" data-t="1105">I'm not reading too much into this conversation or this discussion of people saying they're going to put it back on Coinbase or River or Swan or whatever. It's to me, this is just like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1117" data-t="1117">everybody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1118" data-t="1118">knows an aunt or somebody they went to school with every time they got maybe they got divorced or they got broken up with by a man. They said they're giving up men.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1128">18:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1128" data-t="1128">Men are just too much.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1130" data-t="1130">They're just they're too brutish they don't understand them it just doesn't work they they are not meant to be with a man and you know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1137" data-t="1137">some of them go out and be lesbian for a while they get to Subaru but they come back whatever it's just a it must have don't even go</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1145" data-t="1145">that far.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1146" data-t="1146">It's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1147" data-t="1147">people</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1148">19:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1148" data-t="1148">are afraid of being hurt</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1150" data-t="1150">and self custody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1152" data-t="1152">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1154" data-t="1154">a is a pain point or something that people see as being a potential pain point.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1160" data-t="1160">And they don't they're they're just trying to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1164" data-t="1164">avoid being hurt. That self custody is, you know, is not for everybody.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1170">19:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1170" data-t="1170">You could say that it is. You could say anybody can do it, but there's still no evidence of that. There's still no evidence that just it becomes a a thing that even the most hardcore Bitcoiners,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1182" data-t="1182">where, you know, you could say that they were being lazy or that they're skirting their responsibilities, but that's the hard it's like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1189" data-t="1189">you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1190" data-t="1190">know maybe some people should get these into it or make sure they're they take it seriously or let their wife do it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1197" data-t="1197">But so it's not my recommendation but it's also I don't I think people are just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1201" data-t="1201">they're fed up</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1203">20:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1203" data-t="1203">in their commute they're they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1205" data-t="1205">expressing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1206" data-t="1206">frustration,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1208" data-t="1208">and and they're afraid of getting hurt.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1211">20:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1211" data-t="1211">Which is totally a reasonable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1213" data-t="1213">response</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1215" data-t="1215">through all of this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1219" data-t="1219">I think we continue</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1221" data-t="1221">to find out that we are on the frontier still.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1226" data-t="1226">Individuals want many individuals wanna feel like they are</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1231">20:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1231" data-t="1231">in a place of safety. They're</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1235">20:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1235" data-t="1235">just in a They want security. They want security. They want, yeah, they want safety</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1240" data-t="1240">and security so that they can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1243" data-t="1243">whether it's focused on something else that they find more interesting or more satisfying,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1248" data-t="1248">or if it's just, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1250" data-t="1250">because they're lazy. They wanna play video games. And they wanna feel secure so they can eat. And now with their kids, whatever it is. People crave security.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1260">21:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1260" data-t="1260">They they want Michael Saylor's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1263" data-t="1263">promise of life</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1264" data-t="1264">doesn't have to be hard.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1266" data-t="1266">You should probably stretch.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1268" data-t="1268">You know, like, that that's why many people bought Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1272" data-t="1272">That's why many people bought Bitcoin is they they expected that it would be their,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1280">21:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1280" data-t="1280">like, life raft off of this Titanic, essentially, the financial system, which is, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1287" data-t="1287">extraordinarily chaotic and and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1289" data-t="1289">volatile. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1293" data-t="1293">then they run into this situation where</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1296" data-t="1296">it's not the case. It's actually the opposite. They're they they get in the life raft, and there there's a giant hole in the bottom, and they they're sinking. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1306" data-t="1306">these are absolutely the risks of, you know, being on the frontier, but also living in the world that we live in of this.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1314">21:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1314" data-t="1314">Like, there's been this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1316" data-t="1316">this myth or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1319" data-t="1319">fantasy of of living in an incredibly safe world, and the the world is incredibly unsafe historically.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1326" data-t="1326">And the technology has made it a lot more safe, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1331" data-t="1331">yeah, things are things are chaotic right now. Like, they they were in the first turning. People are trying to build. They're jockeying</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1337" data-t="1337">for</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1339">22:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1339" data-t="1339">their positions,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1340" data-t="1340">picking up the pieces</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1342" data-t="1342">from the fourth turning, and, it's tumultuous for sure.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1347" data-t="1347">But</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1349">22:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1349" data-t="1349">I mean, this is and and this is where you get to the situation, Mike, where we're right now,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1354" data-t="1354">where</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1355" data-t="1355">some people are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1358" data-t="1358">have decided</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1359" data-t="1359">if self custody is not for them, they're going to pay for Bitcoin or custodial Bitcoin. Some of them are doing that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1365" data-t="1365">That is a movement. That is it is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1368">22:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1368" data-t="1368">at least temporarily. Some people said I was doing it temporarily until I figure</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1372" data-t="1372">out now let's just podcast and figure out some new cold or some new hardware wallets,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1377" data-t="1377">that are being recommended right now. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1381" data-t="1381">some people are saying, I want I'm siding with Big Bitcoin. Big Bitcoin doesn't I have to make trade offs here.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1387" data-t="1387">I have to not ask too many questions.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1389" data-t="1389">But</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1390">23:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1390" data-t="1390">I make these trade offs, and I have a relative guarantee of secure or a relative feeling of security.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1396" data-t="1396">And some people are they're really glazing the red team.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1401" data-t="1401">This you know, in response to the cold card security exploit,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1406" data-t="1406">now the red team is going out and white hat exploiting other people's software</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1411" data-t="1411">and then,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1413" data-t="1413">messaging him and letting him know about it,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1416">23:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1416" data-t="1416">you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1419" data-t="1419">hopefully,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1420" data-t="1420">I guess, to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1422" data-t="1422">prevent these</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1424" data-t="1424">Frontier Model attacks that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1426" data-t="1426">affected Coldcard</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1427">23:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1427" data-t="1427">Craig Raw who's not officially a member of the Red Team but is the sole maintainer basically of Sparrow Wallet found a vulnerability</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1436" data-t="1436">in BTCPay</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1438" data-t="1438">the other day and a lot of people currently lost</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1442" data-t="1442">various, you know, quantities of fines like foundation devices. Though we stole nobody broke a foundation device hardware wallet that their,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1451" data-t="1451">their whitening channel was empty. The whole company's lightning, channel is empty. And so I'm sure there's other stories. Uncle Rockstars</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1458" data-t="1458">is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1460">24:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1460" data-t="1460">he's dealing with the PR on that one and and trying to help people.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1464" data-t="1464">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1466" data-t="1466">it hits this is scary. People are scared. They don't wanna be the next victim. And so it's like, Rory, are you gonna are you gonna support the red team? Are you gonna support</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1474" data-t="1474">are you gonna glaze</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1476" data-t="1476">Anthropic and OpenAI and say until Bitcoin podcasters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1480" data-t="1480">are given access to Fable and Infos?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1482">24:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1482" data-t="1482">Like, what are we gonna do? We're just gonna pull our funds offline?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1485" data-t="1485">We're just gonna go with big Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1487" data-t="1487">We're just gonna go back to the banks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1490" data-t="1490">Because the security so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1492" data-t="1492">what will people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1494" data-t="1494">embrace as the</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1497">24:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1497" data-t="1497">institution or the idea that promises security?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1501" data-t="1501">That's gonna be a big question</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1504" data-t="1504">coming forward.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1505" data-t="1505">People are gonna disagree</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1507" data-t="1507">big time on us.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1508">25:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1508" data-t="1508">Oh, people are already disagreeing. I mean, you've got</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1512" data-t="1512">mechanic and and crater and a lot of the, you know, bit one ten, you know, Nazis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1518" data-t="1518">out there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1520" data-t="1520">saying that Bitcoin doesn't provide you security at all because it's a safe haven for spam, and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1526" data-t="1526">big Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1527" data-t="1527">has fully taken it over.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1530">25:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1530" data-t="1530">A lot of, you know, plans promise that they would</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1535" data-t="1535">sell Bitcoin. You know, they're breaking their notes. It's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1539" data-t="1539">in a very tumultuous time where it it it it it's gotta be a really hard time to be like a Gen x or a boomer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1546" data-t="1546">where you don't know how to use your iPhone and, like, surf the Internet and and and have any sort of literacy. It's probably a good thing that Facebook isn't a forum</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1557" data-t="1557">for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1558" data-t="1558">much Bitcoin talk</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1562">26:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1562" data-t="1562">because they they'd be pretty confused over there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1565" data-t="1565">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1566" data-t="1566">yeah, it is it is the question is what is, what will provide</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1572" data-t="1572">you security? And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1574" data-t="1574">there is a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1576" data-t="1576">a lot</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1577">26:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1577" data-t="1577">of disagreement on that, you know. People thought it was AI stocks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1581" data-t="1581">People thought it was SpaceX.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1584" data-t="1584">Jim Cramer saying it's Amazon right now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1588">26:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1588" data-t="1588">And this is why this is part of this is part of what's going on here is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1595" data-t="1595">people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1596" data-t="1596">are getting their their time preference can't get any lower.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1600" data-t="1600">Where some people it's, you know, their age,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1603" data-t="1603">some people it's a medical condition,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1606" data-t="1606">some people you you just</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1609">26:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1609" data-t="1609">form with ADHD or something,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1611" data-t="1611">but they don't they can't they they just their prime preference is what it is, and they can't change. And Bitcoin has not made them rich. Bitcoin has not made them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1620" data-t="1620">stuffed filled in the way that they imagined it would the the way that they hoped that it would. It is not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1627" data-t="1627">it hasn't been what they wanted it to be. And so now they're talking about it failing. They're trying to say that it's failed and the and the reason it failed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1636" data-t="1636">it it they're trying to say it failed for everybody because it failed for them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1640" data-t="1640">Or trying to say it it failed. This was supposed to be the perfect money, and we ruined it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1646">27:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1646" data-t="1646">Is it is broken decentralized.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1648" data-t="1648">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1649" data-t="1649">it's project a lot of it's projection.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1655" data-t="1655">What? So now they're willing to go get desperate. They're willing to fork. They're willing to hardfork. You're talking about literally hard for you to fire the miners</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1662" data-t="1662">and people who we fought next to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1666" data-t="1666">in the in the battles against the Shitcoiners from 2021</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1669">27:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1669" data-t="1669">to DeFi Summer to meme coin mania</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1672" data-t="1672">like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1673" data-t="1673">webs and and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1674" data-t="1674">and and veterans who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1676" data-t="1676">we serve together through all this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1679" data-t="1679">at the end of the day, they become a shitcoiner, just to become a shitcoiner. And it's it's weird, and it's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1685">28:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1685" data-t="1685">so people are lost in the k fade.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1687" data-t="1687">So people are lost in the k fade, but but that doesn't answer for everybody.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1692">28:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1692" data-t="1692">Yeah. I think there's individuals like Justin Belcher, for example, who moved down to Mexico with his wife, you know, and he's been promising her to, you know, buy her a yacht.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1704" data-t="1704">And then core v 30 launches,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1707" data-t="1707">price dips. He blames that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1710" data-t="1710">for why she can't have the yacht,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1714" data-t="1714">and he sees BIP one ten as a solution to make the price go back up again,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1719" data-t="1719">and it doesn't.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1721">28:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1721" data-t="1721">Or at least it but it used to his social capital</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1725" data-t="1725">by being right, you know, about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1727" data-t="1727">a major shift, a major fork</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1729" data-t="1729">in Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1731" data-t="1731">People had see saw BIT one ten</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1734" data-t="1734">as an opportunity.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1736">28:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1736" data-t="1736">Everybody sought for the same opportunity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1739" data-t="1739">or have the same conclusion came to the same conclusions,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1742" data-t="1742">but they saw it as an opportunity. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1745" data-t="1745">for some,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1747" data-t="1747">they botched it bigger than others,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1749" data-t="1749">but it's not the last opportunity. Some of them, it it may be the last opportunity that they have in this industry or in podcast, whatever it is. But for some, it won't be the last.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1759">29:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1759" data-t="1759">What do you think will be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1762" data-t="1762">the fallout or the, like, long term consequences</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1765" data-t="1765">socially, culturally,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1767" data-t="1767">or people who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1768" data-t="1768">you know, I'm not not just being on the wrong side of this. Not everybody's gonna be affected this thing, but for the people who really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1776" data-t="1776">a negative impact or like it's just a negative</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1780">29:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1780" data-t="1780">contribution to the whole space through all this because this sound that's true on both sides.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1788">29:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1788" data-t="1788">I'm not sure what the negative</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1790" data-t="1790">outcomes are gonna be. Like, I I tweeted about how I'm not in favor of, the Nuremberg trials,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1797" data-t="1797">but I know some other people probably are. You know, like, Mars, for example,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1802" data-t="1802">probably really wants to see some Nuremberg</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1805" data-t="1805">Trials happen right now. He's pretty salty about getting kicked out of group chats, out of the the block campaigns</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1812" data-t="1812">and mute campaigns.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1815">30:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1815" data-t="1815">I think what's more</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1818" data-t="1818">what's easier to see is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1821" data-t="1821">the individuals that they gained</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1825" data-t="1825">from this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1827" data-t="1827">There there were some big winners that came out of this. There was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1831" data-t="1831">CoinJoin Chris, there was Stu TXO.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1834">30:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1834" data-t="1834">You you were a big winner</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1836" data-t="1836">coming out of this. Mister HODL went on what Bitcoin did finally with Wicked.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1842" data-t="1842">That was pretty wild. And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1845">30:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1845" data-t="1845">Berlin Hoddle.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1847" data-t="1847">Well, yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1849" data-t="1849">Robbie</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1852" data-t="1852">Mike Schmidt, obviously.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1854" data-t="1854">Brink came out of this ad.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1857" data-t="1857">Basically, if you were right, you came out of this ad.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1860">31:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1860" data-t="1860">Very few.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1862" data-t="1862">There's some exceptions.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1864" data-t="1864">I know, like, I love him, but I don't know if Snobie came out ahead, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1869" data-t="1869">but most people did, especially if they were helpful.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1872" data-t="1872">Well, that well, somebody who did not come out ahead</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1876" data-t="1876">and was one of the more</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1878">31:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1878" data-t="1878">two, I've actually gained two of the more disappointing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1883" data-t="1883">heartbreaking,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1884" data-t="1884">I don't know, letdowns of this whole thing. Sad sad stories as Huddl and Guy Swan.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1890">31:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1890" data-t="1890">I don't know if Guy Swan's gonna lose so much from this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1894" data-t="1894">Because I don't I don't I think while he entertained it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1899" data-t="1899">I don't think he was ever partook in any of the egregious</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1903" data-t="1903">war crimes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1905" data-t="1905">But, you know, in World War two</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1908" data-t="1908">is afterwards, you're not you're not gonna there there was, like, a handful of Nazis you couldn't get away with,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1914">31:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1914" data-t="1914">bringing over for operation paperclip.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1917" data-t="1917">Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1918" data-t="1918">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1919" data-t="1919">guy swans, like, one of those ones you totally get away with, and nobody would blink an eye.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1926" data-t="1926">Israel's not gonna come and try and kidnap him and and try him and I just mean more like, you know, people who lost</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1934">32:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1934" data-t="1934">some of their reputation. Like, Jimmy Song, maybe he's a better example than Kai. Jimmy Song and Hogman</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1940" data-t="1940">gotta be the two if you came in here in 2021,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1944" data-t="1944">2022</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1946" data-t="1946">and you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1947" data-t="1947">you got to be on stage at a conference or follow, you know, Jimmy Song or Holla Law podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1953" data-t="1953">That's a big deal. That was a huge deal. These guys were highly respected.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1957">32:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1957" data-t="1957">And they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1959" data-t="1959">you know, I don't think that they're necessarily,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1963" data-t="1963">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1965" data-t="1965">at least on Jimmy's side, like, a a complete joke. Right? But it it's they just don't that that cowboy hat doesn't command as much respect as it used to. Mhmm. And neither does that space helmet on all of</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1977">32:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1977" data-t="1977">them. Well, I think there's the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1980" data-t="1980">the individuals yeah. Sure. Like, in the short term, they they I guess there there's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1985" data-t="1985">definitely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1986" data-t="1986">a separation between</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1988" data-t="1988">those who actually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1989" data-t="1989">damage their reputation</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1991">33:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1991" data-t="1991">so egregiously that it's gonna be difficult or impossible to rehabilitate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1998" data-t="1998">long term because it's gonna stick in in people's minds so much,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2003" data-t="2003">which I I wouldn't say Guy or even Jimmy has. Like, yeah, I I think a lot of us were pretty disappointed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2010" data-t="2010">in the short term in that, but we'll forget about it. And, like, you know, Jimmy was on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2016" data-t="2016">downstream.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2017" data-t="2017">And and all it takes for a lot of these guys that that kind of rode the middle, you know, and and might have had questionable</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2024">33:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2024" data-t="2024">points</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2025" data-t="2025">or were just annoying or, you know, whatever at different points.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2029" data-t="2029">And this whole saga is just whatever the next crisis is to, you know, be on the same team and and everybody will be happy again with each other.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2038" data-t="2038">Now there's individuals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2040" data-t="2040">that have actually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2042" data-t="2042">done things that</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2044">34:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2044" data-t="2044">have been damaging</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2046" data-t="2046">in one way or another</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2049" data-t="2049">in their behavior,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2051" data-t="2051">you know, and and it might have to do with, like, the intensity that they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2055" data-t="2055">tried to prevent Gloria from having sex.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2058" data-t="2058">Might be one of those things.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2062">34:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2062" data-t="2062">Some of the just you know, there there were there were a lot of, a lot of comments that were</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2069" data-t="2069">pretty pretty egregious</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2071" data-t="2071">that I I think is gonna be difficult to to recover from, and and a lot of individuals really made fools in themselves.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2080" data-t="2080">There were individuals that, you know, were so consistent with it too,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2085" data-t="2085">like, Tomer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2087" data-t="2087">Can can canute's, like, an example of somebody that, you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2091">34:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2091" data-t="2091">was really obnoxious</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2093" data-t="2093">with all of this, but, you know, he's so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2096" data-t="2096">silly and goofy. I think people would forgive him.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2099" data-t="2099">Roger nine thousand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2103" data-t="2103">I think everybody will give him a pass. Everybody will you know, even though he's been, you know, a big supporter of this nonsense,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2111" data-t="2111">Everybody likes Roger nine thousand. They'll they'll invite him to the parties in in the future and won't even blink an eye about it. They're like, okay, Roger. Just give him a pat on the bat, you goofball. But then there's individuals like us in our gold.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2124">35:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2124" data-t="2124">I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2125" data-t="2125">for me though</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2128" data-t="2128">You're right. You're right. And and I think that the people who were the most egregious or messed up the most people who ran out the worst, you know, I I think they it's pretty obvious now who they are. But for me, the real</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2140" data-t="2140">that that I that doesn't surprise me. And most of them didn't like, Threatt Crew didn't surprise me. Right? Like, I'm not disappointed about that. A lot of these pledts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2147" data-t="2147">some of these dumbasses,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2148" data-t="2148">not surprised at all. Some of them were friends and some of them were or, you know, just people that you did have</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2156">35:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2156" data-t="2156">a certain amount of respect for for a long time and it's not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2160" data-t="2160">necessarily</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2162" data-t="2162">these people who I'm talking about. It's not necessarily</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2166" data-t="2166">that they did anything egregious or that they were hostile or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2170" data-t="2170">even ruined their wives,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2172" data-t="2172">or their reputations completely. It's more of the fact that</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2176">36:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2176" data-t="2176">they did every like I said, everybody used this as an opportunity. And some people used it as an opportune they exploited it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2184" data-t="2184">for personal gains. And I a lot of people did it. But for example,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2189" data-t="2189">my conscience is clean about it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2191" data-t="2191">because I did that too.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2194" data-t="2194">My conscience is clean about it because I was doing it I was true to how I felt.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2199" data-t="2199">I I sometimes I was maybe a little bit aggressive. Sometimes maybe I was unfair in the way I framed or portrayed people,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2206">36:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2206" data-t="2206">But I didn't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2208" data-t="2208">lie about anybody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2209" data-t="2209">in the sense that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2212" data-t="2212">I did tell any, like, completely false truths. And if they were technically false, right, like, it was a it was a it's an over this is satire. This is an over the top</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2222" data-t="2222">parody. This and and it's but it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2224" data-t="2224">transparently</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2225">37:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2225" data-t="2225">so. You shouldn't take it seriously. Other people were exploiting it and be very dishonest and hypocritical</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2231" data-t="2231">about the fact that they were exploiting it. And Mhmm. I'm disappointed in the people who did that didn't even do a good job.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2239" data-t="2239">It didn't make any good points. They didn't have a good idea. They didn't use this opportunity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2244" data-t="2244">to platform</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2246" data-t="2246">something they've really been working hard on and they they should be proud of it was an opportunity just for shameless</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2254" data-t="2254">publicity</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2256">37:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2256" data-t="2256">but without providing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2258" data-t="2258">it's in a very dishonest way misleading</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2261" data-t="2261">but in no way in no way thought provoking.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2266">37:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2266" data-t="2266">Low effort,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2268" data-t="2268">low vibe,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2269" data-t="2269">poor delivery</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2271" data-t="2271">in general.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2272" data-t="2272">Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's there's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2274" data-t="2274">there were some Nazis that had great memes,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2277">37:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2277" data-t="2277">I think. Yeah. Absolutely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2280" data-t="2280">I I bought by, like, almost all</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2283">38:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2283" data-t="2283">And there were some great points made, by people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2287" data-t="2287">from the NODS community,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2289" data-t="2289">and and it stuff that made you stop and think and keep and consider</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2295" data-t="2295">the long term implications</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2296" data-t="2296">of things that we took for granted.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2300">38:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2300" data-t="2300">Yeah. Like, Bitcoin mechanic was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2303" data-t="2303">talking about, like, how how will Plugs be able to afford nodes if, you know, AI just keeps on making computer hardware work. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2311" data-t="2311">that was a good point.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2314">38:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2314" data-t="2314">Hey. It is. But the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2316" data-t="2316">at the end of the day, I don't know. I would say it'd be nice to put us this behind us. It will not be so easy to do. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2324" data-t="2324">you know, whatever it is what it is. It's over now, at least this saga.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2328" data-t="2328">But one tenant has failed, and pretty much nobody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2332" data-t="2332">seriously</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2333" data-t="2333">is is is is, you know, pretending otherwise. So it's time to move on, but we're going next to a hard fork. I don't know. But, like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2341">39:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2341" data-t="2341">what else is what else is changing? Have you noticed a lot of people are saying</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2345" data-t="2345">the security test culture is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2348" data-t="2348">finally gone gone?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2350" data-t="2350">Do you believe that's true?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2353">39:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2353" data-t="2353">No. No. It's definitely not gone, but it definitely has taken a massive,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2359" data-t="2359">hit, and it's it's looked really, really bad. But, you know, the the purity tests are are very low effort way to, you know, promote yourself without actually having to prove anything.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2370" data-t="2370">So that's not going away. As long as as long as there's individuals that want to gain clout without hardly any effort, they're gonna be issuing purity tests. And I mean, you think it's way too early to say purity test culture is over when Corey Clips is launching Twitter spaces again.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2386" data-t="2386">We'll see if that rebounds or not, but I I doubt it will. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2394" data-t="2394">or I doubt the purity test won't be going away anytime soon. But,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2399">39:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2399" data-t="2399">yeah,</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2399">one of the most fascinating things I I think about this episode</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2405" data-t="2405">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2406" data-t="2406">we've we've only been interested in talking about Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2410" data-t="2410">in the ecosystem all the time. There's been no no talk of anything outside of it, and and that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2416" data-t="2416">has been, you know, a pretty big transition</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2419">40:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2419" data-t="2419">where,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2420" data-t="2420">you know, so much is happening. The,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2423" data-t="2423">the pipeline 10 stuff, you know, was it it was very anticlimactic.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2429" data-t="2429">It's about as anticlimactic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2431" data-t="2431">as it could have possibly been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2435" data-t="2435">for how much noise there was this entire time.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2440">40:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2440" data-t="2440">And and a huge part of that is because people are actually, you know, dealing with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2444" data-t="2444">or or looking at serious things</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2448" data-t="2448">in regards to Bitcoin. And that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2451" data-t="2451">has me thinking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2454" data-t="2454">about the future of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2457" data-t="2457">we're gonna we're gonna go through some turbulent times.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2460">41:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2460" data-t="2460">And and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2462" data-t="2462">you know, if you think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2465" data-t="2465">the the vulnerabilities</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2466" data-t="2466">that have been exposed by the Chinese clankers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2469" data-t="2469">you know, the the as JW weatherman would call them, the nineties script titties.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2476" data-t="2476">These things are gonna be unleashed</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2481">41:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2481" data-t="2481">on the entire web,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2483" data-t="2483">on all the Internet connected devices, on your,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2488" data-t="2488">Alexa</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2489" data-t="2489">at home, on your,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2493" data-t="2493">Internet connected</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2495" data-t="2495">refrigerator,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2497">41:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2497" data-t="2497">on doodads and and gizmos galore.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2502">41:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2502" data-t="2502">Yeah. It is. It is never been a scarier time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2507" data-t="2507">to be a pleb.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2509" data-t="2509">Never been a scarier time. And if you are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2512" data-t="2512">I mean, listen. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna glaze it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2516" data-t="2516">It's gonna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2518" data-t="2518">if all you you gotta stop making your burgers and looking at blood slop because people who spend all day cooking their burgers looking at blood slop are not going to survive.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2527">42:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2527" data-t="2527">And people are gonna stop having</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2530" data-t="2530">sympathy for you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2532" data-t="2532">at this point. I mean, everybody is gonna have sympathy for the cold card victims. It's gonna be fundraisers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2538" data-t="2538">GoFundMe's,</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2538">gifts and goes, shady scammers saying that they lost money in cold car, but we're gonna get scammed on that. But they that's not gonna show compassion.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2546" data-t="2546">They are going to give</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2547">42:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2547" data-t="2547">these people grace because this was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2550" data-t="2550">the time before you had to care about entropy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2553" data-t="2553">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2554" data-t="2554">as this goes on,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2556" data-t="2556">the people who are the victim next and the people after that and the people after that, people's sympathy and patience is going to run out, and they're not gonna care</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2565" data-t="2565">that you got fucked because it's hard enough for them to stay ahead of the entropy. So</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2570">42:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2570" data-t="2570">this needs to be a wake up call. This needs to be a wake up call. It's time to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2575" data-t="2575">provide value or</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2578">42:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2578" data-t="2578">What do you think the the optimal way to get maximum entropy is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2583" data-t="2583">when you're generating seeds? I I was discussing this with Juan Gull</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2588" data-t="2588">this week.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2590">43:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2590" data-t="2590">You know, they say you gotta roll the precision dice hundreds of times.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2595" data-t="2595">There's there's talk that scientists are, working with big Bitcoin to smash</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2600" data-t="2600">particles together in the Large Hadron Collider</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2603" data-t="2603">in CERN and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2605" data-t="2605">pure pull pure entropy off the God particle after these collisions to to create entropy that is quantum resistant. Jeff Booth is doing Ayahuasca.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2615" data-t="2615">That's a good way to get entropy,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2618">43:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2618" data-t="2618">allegedly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2619" data-t="2619">But, yeah, I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2621" data-t="2621">listen to forty hours per week. We talked about this before. You get macro, philosophy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2625" data-t="2625">astrology,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2626" data-t="2626">op tech, mathematics,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2628" data-t="2628">whatever it is, culture, crash app podcast. Like, you need entropy in your podcast. You need</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2633">43:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2633" data-t="2633">to constantly be taking in new information</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2636" data-t="2636">that challenges your assumptions,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2638" data-t="2638">challenges</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2639" data-t="2639">your biases,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2641" data-t="2641">and makes you think adversarial again. It makes you think the same way you thought about Bitcoin when you first found it. You learned about the the the truth of money and money printing and how you started to think critically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2653" data-t="2653">about everything connected to the to the to the fiat money printer. You need to be doing that constantly or have</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2660">44:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2660" data-t="2660">a really good quad subscription and pay a chat GPT in these clankers to do it for you. If you can't afford to have them do it for you, if you need open SaaS money or whatever, you can't get it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2670" data-t="2670">maybe you doubts you need to outsource</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2673" data-t="2673">your compute.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2675">44:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2675" data-t="2675">There's been some controversy on how to get actual casino grade dice.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2679" data-t="2679">Apparently, Amazon doesn't have them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2682" data-t="2682">according to the group chat I'm in.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2685">44:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2685" data-t="2685">Now the question is that Is that a Ramon diet?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2689">44:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2689" data-t="2689">Like, you know, when you're when you're, trying to get, you you know, maximum</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2693" data-t="2693">entropy for for Bitcoin podcast, like, do you think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2697" data-t="2697">additional security is needed, like, listening to the podcast in a Faraday cage, for example,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2704" data-t="2704">so that your brainwaves aren't getting scanned actively?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2710">45:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2710" data-t="2710">In Faraday? Yeah. I mean, that's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2713" data-t="2713">it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2714" data-t="2714">some people swear by it. I don't know. I've never tried it. There's also,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2718" data-t="2718">you know, people talk about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2722" data-t="2722">listening with without using Bluetooth speakers because some of the signal degrades</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2726" data-t="2726">of the podcast,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2728">45:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2728" data-t="2728">when it's being transmitted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2729" data-t="2729">off a wire. Some people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2731" data-t="2731">listen to podcasts in their sleep. They think that you get more entropy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2736" data-t="2736">absorption</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2737" data-t="2737">when you're listening to a podcast and, during the REM cycle.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2741" data-t="2741">But,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2742">45:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2742" data-t="2742">you know, I'm sure Doctor Jack Crews has</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2744" data-t="2744">some of his voice on entropy as well. I have more entropy in your life.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2749" data-t="2749">He's got more entropy in his gut than he ever did before.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2753">45:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2753" data-t="2753">This is an argument against taking antibiotics.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2757" data-t="2757">Antibiotics</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2758" data-t="2758">kill entropy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2761">46:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2761" data-t="2761">That's a good point.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2763" data-t="2763">But time. Sometimes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2766" data-t="2766">you don't want entropy. Like, sometimes entropy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2768" data-t="2768">in the wrong context can be very damaging.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2773">46:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2773" data-t="2773">Is this is this an argument for CrossFit?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2776" data-t="2776">CrossFit is like the ultimate entropy exercise routine. Right?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2781">46:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2781" data-t="2781">Right. Exactly. It is it's based short bursts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2784" data-t="2784">of high, unfiltered entropy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2787" data-t="2787">And those short bursts of entropy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2790" data-t="2790">can they'll they'll either ruin your spine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2793" data-t="2793">or make you extremely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2795" data-t="2795">muscular.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2797">46:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2797" data-t="2797">Maybe both at the same time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2800" data-t="2800">Then you can go and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2802" data-t="2802">take care of Leland's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2804" data-t="2804">peptides.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2807">46:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2807" data-t="2807">Yeah. We're, puncher puncher's time chain peptides.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2810" data-t="2810">The, the pilot is shot down.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2813" data-t="2813">So the flight over Pennsylvania.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2815">46:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2815" data-t="2815">I mean, who who would you rather buy peptides from? Puncher,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2819" data-t="2819">Gary Leland, or BTC Sessions?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2823">47:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2823" data-t="2823">I I think all of those are good options. I don't have I would I I usually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2829" data-t="2829">prefer to buy from,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2831" data-t="2831">flood veterans flood veteran owned businesses. So I that's why I'd probably go with Puntre's. And I believe on Friday,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2838" data-t="2838">Robert Breedlove made a post. He's been taking peptides for a year now, and his he was happy to report that his balls</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2846" data-t="2846">are normal size. They did not trunk.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2849" data-t="2849">He does not have little pebble balls</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2851">47:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2851" data-t="2851">from taking a year of peptides. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2854" data-t="2854">that was one of my biggest hesitations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2856" data-t="2856">about,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2857" data-t="2857">experimenting with peptides</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2858" data-t="2858">was the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2860" data-t="2860">the loss of of testicular girth.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2863">47:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2863" data-t="2863">But, apparently, it is not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2866" data-t="2866">plugs aren't getting small balls.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2869">47:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2869" data-t="2869">Oh, that's good.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2871">47:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2871" data-t="2871">What, ladies, if you're listeners, if you have a husband, like, I just wonder what your opinion would be if you woke up and your husband was reporting that his dolls were normal size</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2883" data-t="2883">to his mill you know, hundreds of thousands of followers.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2887">48:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2887" data-t="2887">I don't know. How how how would you feel if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2891" data-t="2891">your wife was tweeting about the size of her pussy lips or something?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2897">48:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2897" data-t="2897">Depends on why I married her, I guess. If I married her because she had famously large pussy lips,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2902" data-t="2902">and I guess that would probably be, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2906" data-t="2906">know, it bears with your spouse as a vector.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2909" data-t="2909">Everybody's different.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2912">48:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2912" data-t="2912">I don't think Breedlove has ever been famous for having large balls. I think he's always been famous for having large biceps. But</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2919">48:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2919" data-t="2919">I think Robert probably, in his mind,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2923" data-t="2923">thinks that part of his appeal is having big balls, maybe more metaphorically, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2929" data-t="2929">I I don't think anybody actually thinks that way, but I think he does probably have that perspective of himself.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2936">48:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2936" data-t="2936">Yeah. I can see that. It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2939" data-t="2939">Tom</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2940" data-t="2940">Tom Vaze did a breakdown of this, like, the the content creators with the hero god complex, and maybe he falls into that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2947">49:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2947" data-t="2947">Yeah. Megalomaniacs.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2950">49:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2950" data-t="2950">He did a really good breakdown.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2952" data-t="2952">If anybody goes in and looks at his feed talking about all the different individuals in the categories.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2959">49:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2959" data-t="2959">Yeah. That's worth checking on. Actually, it is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2962" data-t="2962">you know, tone</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2964" data-t="2964">can be retarded sometimes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2966" data-t="2966">A lot of times, actually. But his his analysis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2970" data-t="2970">of the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2971" data-t="2971">psychology</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2972">49:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2972" data-t="2972">and, like, the the mental</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2975" data-t="2975">mechanics,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2976" data-t="2976">no pun intended,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2978" data-t="2978">of the main characters of, you know, the.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2981" data-t="2981">They're pretty spot on, and they're and they're they're worded pretty accessibly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2988" data-t="2988">If you care, most people don't care. But if you do care, just check it out.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2993">49:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2993" data-t="2993">And let's just read through it real quick before we get to the founding business. He he said, in my opinion,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2999" data-t="2999">the only one who could be working with the feds is Luke,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3002" data-t="3002">the ringleader.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3004" data-t="3004">Didn't justify why.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3005">50:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3005" data-t="3005">He said yeah. He says,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3007" data-t="3007">oh, I think that's you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3010" data-t="3010">he was he went to the he went con he was working with the FBI after he lost 300 Bitcoin a few years ago,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3016" data-t="3016">and he emerged</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3018" data-t="3018">his role with OSHA. This is, like, of course, just speculation. This is just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3023" data-t="3023">that's a lot game theory, whatever you wanna call it. And he says, what mechanic, Crater, Bachelor,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3029">50:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3029" data-t="3029">they were suffering from megalomania,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3031" data-t="3031">huddle knot, megalomania,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3034" data-t="3034">which</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3038" data-t="3038">seems like a reasonable assessment for sure.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3043">50:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3043" data-t="3043">He's talking to you. After watching especially after watching that stream.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3054">50:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3054" data-t="3054">Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen, it was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3058" data-t="3058">part of the risk. Kayfabe is getting lost in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3062" data-t="3062">it. Not being able to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3067" data-t="3067">appropriately manage the kFAB and where it it it mixes with reality.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3078">51:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3078" data-t="3078">Crater, mechanic, Homer, Helen Guida, suffer from megalomania.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3084" data-t="3084">Canute, Betchler, Mateo, Big Sean, Osanoa</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3087" data-t="3087">are the useful idiots.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3092" data-t="3092">Might still realize they're being fooled.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3095" data-t="3095">Simon Dixon and Jack Crews are in the everything is a conspiracy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3099" data-t="3099">so bit one time good, poor bad, the end.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3103">51:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3103" data-t="3103">Jack's also in Megalomania?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3107">51:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3107" data-t="3107">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3110" data-t="3110">Fred Krueger gets his own category.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3116" data-t="3116">Hollow Knot is actually in all four of the above.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3123" data-t="3123">Nick Szabo and Budyon are in the category of, oh, no. We have to preemptively</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3127" data-t="3127">comply with future government regulations.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3132" data-t="3132">We we talked about the strategy a while ago is how it comply with the government.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3137">52:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3137" data-t="3137">They seem like they've they've taken that awful force.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3140">52:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3140" data-t="3140">It's a society</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3142" data-t="3142">these days.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3145" data-t="3145">It's pretty it's a pretty low bar to outapply the government.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3149" data-t="3149">Anybody can do it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3152" data-t="3152">Used to be more of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3154" data-t="3154">a</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3157">52:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3157" data-t="3157">accomplishment.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3159" data-t="3159">Bob Burnett is so category of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3162" data-t="3162">why the fuck are you still pro BIP one ten? You know how retarded it is. You actually understand how Bitcoin works.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3171">52:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3171" data-t="3171">Like, what I was talking about earlier is the people who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3175" data-t="3175">they should they did know better. You they should know better.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3179" data-t="3179">And yet,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3181" data-t="3181">you know, this is like a lot of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3183" data-t="3183">a lot of Bitcoiners get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3185" data-t="3185">definitely used to be a bigger thing anyway.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3187">53:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3187" data-t="3187">Frustrating with libertarians because it's like libertarians understand the problem with the central, you know, the federal reserves, central banks,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3194" data-t="3194">state, abusive authority,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3198" data-t="3198">just the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3200" data-t="3200">the the all encompassing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3201" data-t="3201">demoralizing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3202" data-t="3202">existence of the state,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3204">53:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3204" data-t="3204">fiat money,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3206" data-t="3206">the gold standard and why</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3208" data-t="3208">that is it was something that, used to be the most glazed thing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3214" data-t="3214">outside of Fiat.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3215" data-t="3215">And yet, they would reject Bitcoin. And people used to, like, you know better. You should know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3221" data-t="3221">why we need Bitcoin. And they still and they still together. That's what it kinda feels like the guys. It's like you guys know better than us.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3228">53:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3228" data-t="3228">You guys are getting caught up in something here.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3232">53:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3232" data-t="3232">Totally.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3235" data-t="3235">But, yeah, kinda wrapping it up, there there's going to be,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3239" data-t="3239">probably a transitionary period where,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3242" data-t="3242">individuals are figuring out, like, the next thing to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3247" data-t="3247">get all amped up and excited about.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3250" data-t="3250">Now that there's over, there's a lot of individuals that, you know, will feel</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3255">54:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3255" data-t="3255">very vindicated as a process of this and, you know, wanna take their victory laps.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3262" data-t="3262">And then there's individuals that are gonna have, you know, really sore feelings.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3269" data-t="3269">There's gonna be a lot of people that are quiet,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3272" data-t="3272">for some time trying to, you know, reflect on their their decision making or, you know, figure out what their what their pivot's gonna be.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3280" data-t="3280">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3281" data-t="3281">yeah, it's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3283">54:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3283" data-t="3283">gonna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3284" data-t="3284">be interesting to watch, but I I I think we're all kind of in agreement that the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3290" data-t="3290">the next thing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3292" data-t="3292">after this is probably gonna be fighting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3296" data-t="3296">Wall Street and big Bitcoin on, quantum stuff.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3299" data-t="3299">I think that's what a lot of people are anticipating gearing up for. I don't know if you have any, contrary</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3305">55:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3305" data-t="3305">opinions on that, but that seems to be the consensus of what the next,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3311">55:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3311" data-t="3311">No. We can get into that in the next one. I think that, the quantum thing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3316" data-t="3316">is finally,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3318" data-t="3318">at least from just, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3321" data-t="3321">a current thing or like a a focal point of a situation. I think we learned that we we're not even ready for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3329" data-t="3329">the the risks of Chinese trans gpt.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3332" data-t="3332">Quantum computers</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3333">55:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3333" data-t="3333">is like should be way down on our priority list</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3336" data-t="3336">of things to be concerned about as a risk to our Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3340" data-t="3340">What we should be most concerned about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3343" data-t="3343">is our</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3344" data-t="3344">own</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3345" data-t="3345">is ourselves. We are the most dangerous</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3348">55:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3348" data-t="3348">risks to our Bitcoin especially if we don't know how</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3351" data-t="3351">much entry could we have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3353" data-t="3353">or we're not rolling dice or we're not keeping up with our self custody hygiene</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3358" data-t="3358">followed by you know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3360" data-t="3360">clankers from China</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3362" data-t="3362">clankers from wherever</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3365">56:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3365" data-t="3365">fishy, you know, whatever. There's a million things that are that are worse</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3369" data-t="3369">or a bigger threat to your Bitcoin and quantum computers, especially right now. And I think, I hope</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3374" data-t="3374">that the past week and a half</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3377" data-t="3377">really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3378" data-t="3378">highlighted that in people's minds, and and we should focus on things that are more</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3383" data-t="3383">correctly in front of us and much higher risk,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3386">56:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3386" data-t="3386">from a probable probability standpoint.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3395">56:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3395" data-t="3395">Absolutely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3396" data-t="3396">I think the likelihood of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3398" data-t="3398">focusing on issues that are have a high probability of being issues is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3404" data-t="3404">is low.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3405" data-t="3405">But, yeah, hopefully, that can be the case.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3411" data-t="3411">We'll see. There there there'll be the next current thing coming up here soon, folks. We're we're all waiting to see what it's gonna be.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3418">56:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3418" data-t="3418">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3420" data-t="3420">yeah, it's been a couple weeks. Appreciate all the boosters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3423" data-t="3423">that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3426" data-t="3426">supported the show</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3428" data-t="3428">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3429" data-t="3429">appreciate all of the, paid subscribers.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3432">57:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3432" data-t="3432">But, first boost, late stage 6006</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3435" data-t="3435">ad said,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3436" data-t="3436">sorry about the near crash out, Dick. Hope you all have the best time at Lake Satosh. You can't wait</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3441" data-t="3441">to hear next week's episode update. Give everyone a hug from me.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3445" data-t="3445">I'm always open for a call if y'all are around</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3449" data-t="3449">and wanna just give me shit.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3452">57:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3452" data-t="3452">Hopefully, I can answer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3458" data-t="3458">I love where I live, but I do wish,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3461" data-t="3461">were a reasonable drive distance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3463" data-t="3463">Satoshi. I know Bubba drives his hog all the way across the country</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3468" data-t="3468">to get there, but he's an old retired boomer with nothing better than you. Y'all smoke some extra cigs for me. So, this year, Bubba drove his old Cadillac convertible, and he found out that it had a leak</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3481" data-t="3481">when he got to Lake Satoshi. Because where he lives in the desert,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3485">58:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3485" data-t="3485">you don't really have to worry about rain, but it it was sure poured when we were out there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3492" data-t="3492">Yeah. I I don't know. I mean, I'm I'm sure Lake Stage Huddle is kind of anticipating,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3499" data-t="3499">you know, this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3502" data-t="3502">Glaze and Glory episode about Lake Satoshi and how awesome it was, like, going into</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3508" data-t="3508">before it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3511" data-t="3511">And it wasn't it wasn't the case this year. It wasn't, like, writing off from this high where, you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3516">58:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3516" data-t="3516">fundamentals does 12 different podcasts about how great the experience was. It was, you know, a pretty wild time.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3531">58:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3531" data-t="3531">As I missed it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3533" data-t="3533">like I said, I'll be there next year.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3535" data-t="3535">I was Bittmeyer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3537" data-t="3537">5420¢.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3540" data-t="3540">Crash ops will continue until sovereignty</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3543" data-t="3543">and connection increase.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3544">59:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3544" data-t="3544">We will not successfully navigate the first turning alone.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3550" data-t="3550">Nicely well</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3554">59:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3554" data-t="3554">Yeah. I think that's a good lesson.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3559" data-t="3559">It's a lot easier when you work together with other people.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3564" data-t="3564">I guess, like, that's a whole lesson of what the mesh is, what those guys are doing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3570" data-t="3570">Over an uncomfortable message.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3572" data-t="3572">If you're not familiar with it, they're they're talking about it all over there all the time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3579" data-t="3579">Orange Mark five thousand sat said the final bear market cleanse is finally upon us.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3584">59:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3584" data-t="3584">We're shaking loose all the dead weight, the crash outs, the node running drama, so Bitcoin can finally resume its rightful trajectory</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3593" data-t="3593">up on it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3597">59:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3597" data-t="3597">Not yet.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3599" data-t="3599">Can you zoom in a little bit? It says I used to read a lot. 5,000 stats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3605" data-t="3605">First, turning fuel. Let's go.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3607">1:00:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3607" data-t="3607">You will know it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3609" data-t="3609">Right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3614" data-t="3614">Katie, 2,300</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3615" data-t="3615">status is fantastic as always. Thank you, gentlemen.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3618" data-t="3618">Well, you're welcome. Katie,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3620" data-t="3620">made some awesome pizza.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3625">1:00:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3625" data-t="3625">That would have failed a purity test even though I I believe it was sourdough pizza, which I think in today's world is, the the past. The sourdough is pretty awesome.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3636">1:00:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3636" data-t="3636">Shame it up again.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3639" data-t="3639">Sorry, miss.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3640" data-t="3640">Katie's pizza.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3642" data-t="3642">2237¢</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3644" data-t="3644">from God's staff. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you, God's.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3650">1:00:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3650" data-t="3650">1010¢</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3651" data-t="3651">from Blisa.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3652" data-t="3652">Been a long time, so listen. Boost where have you been, Blisa? Missed you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3658" data-t="3658">Thanks for the boost. Damn.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3661">1:01:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3661" data-t="3661">That's that's a fact that that's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3663" data-t="3663">I like the the a a comparison. Haney Creations, he does it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3668" data-t="3668">Well, Dougal was made it through a cold card fiasco. Me too.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3675">1:01:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3675" data-t="3675">Yeah. I know I know some that didn't, and it it was pretty,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3679" data-t="3679">pretty awful,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3680" data-t="3680">the whole situation.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3682" data-t="3682">Definitely has some friends impacted by it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3685" data-t="3685">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3694" data-t="3694">It's a bummer.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3698">1:01:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3698" data-t="3698">Oscar Ding, a 101 SAS says, have a lovely time at Lake Satoshi.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3707">1:01:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3707" data-t="3707">HCM board, thumbs up emojis,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3709" data-t="3709">and then Kadej,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3711" data-t="3711">Kadej,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3713" data-t="3713">five m 200</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3715" data-t="3715">sats.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3717">1:01:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3717" data-t="3717">I don't know what that is. It's a foreign</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3720" data-t="3720">nonsense.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3723" data-t="3723">Thank you to our subscribers, Dave, Jolly Roger, Jason.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3727" data-t="3727">I had a great time hanging out with Jason.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3729" data-t="3729">You used to read a lot. LAHOB,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3732" data-t="3732">Skardust is coming out to, The US here pretty soon. They're gonna be touring in September, so keep that on your radar. In Chicago,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3740">1:02:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3740" data-t="3740">they're gonna be doing a cool show.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3742" data-t="3742">Shadrach, Boomer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3745" data-t="3745">Fundamentals,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3746" data-t="3746">Sean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3747" data-t="3747">open mic, and Avi Burr. Appreciate you guys for subscribing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3752" data-t="3752">But, yeah, I mean, wrapping up the show, do you what what do you got on your horizon for the next week, Rod?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3763">1:02:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3763" data-t="3763">Stay day by day Stay day by day and avoid in Chinese collectors.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3768" data-t="3768">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3769" data-t="3769">I just breaking news,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3772" data-t="3772">the somebody's in the I believe Discord, and they are now voting. They're having a need democracy the day after they lost the democracy on which chain to hard fork off of whatever</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3783" data-t="3783">core's chain is on September 1 or with this two So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3788" data-t="3788">they're voting. The</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3790">1:03:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3790" data-t="3790">the election results are coming in. The discourse</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3793" data-t="3793">vote. Wherever</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3795" data-t="3795">the the Nazi plebs decide,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3798" data-t="3798">we'll we'll find out which fork they are or which chain they're forking from. My guess is they're all going to fork from the core chain because none of them are actually using their own chain, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3809" data-t="3809">we'll see if they use it when they hard forklift.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3812">1:03:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3812" data-t="3812">We shall see.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3815" data-t="3815">Anyways, folks, thank you for tuning in to this episode</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3819" data-t="3819">of Beacon Weekly, and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3821" data-t="3821">what kind of shit?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3825">1:03:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3825" data-t="3825">Two three four two three four.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3838" data-t="3838">You wanted to help,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3841">1:04:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3841" data-t="3841">but all you did was hurt.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3844">1:04:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3844" data-t="3844">You wanted to build,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3846" data-t="3846">but all you did was subvert.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3849" data-t="3849">You attacked what you loved</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3852" data-t="3852">and pushed your friends away.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3856" data-t="3856">Poisoned</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3856">the well, now can you see how you behaved?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3861">1:04:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3861" data-t="3861">Maybe things will get better</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3864" data-t="3864">Maybe some things never do</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3868" data-t="3868">But sometimes it needs to hurt</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3871" data-t="3871">To learn</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3872" data-t="3872">what is true Maybe it will get better</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3903" data-t="3903">where do you go?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3905">1:05:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3905" data-t="3905">The cars seem right just now you've got nothing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3910" data-t="3910">to show. Maybe things will get bad.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3914" data-t="3914">Maybe some things never to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3921" data-t="3921">learn what is true. Maybe it will get bad</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3926" data-t="3926">or maybe it won't.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3928" data-t="3928">It's hard to keep it together</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3930">1:05:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3930" data-t="3930">when you look</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3933" data-t="3933">around, see what's broke. Got a feeling things are changing like the tide is rolling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3940" data-t="3940">in. Maybe all these wrong directions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3944" data-t="3944">will lead you somewhere</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3945" data-t="3945">good again. Can</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3977">1:06:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3977" data-t="3977">sure</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3979">1:06:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3979" data-t="3979">to the point</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3980" data-t="3980">where you became</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3982" data-t="3982">deranged.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3984" data-t="3984">Maybe things will get better.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3987" data-t="3987">Maybe some things never do.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3991" data-t="3991">But sometimes it needs to hurt to learn</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3995">1:06:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3995" data-t="3995">what is true. Maybe it will get better,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3999" data-t="3999">or maybe it won't.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4002" data-t="4002">It's</span></span></p>