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Transcript: The Calm Before The Storm | Bugle Weekly Episode 18

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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-78">1:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-78" data-t="78">This is clearly a very serious spiritual war.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-88" data-t="88">Stable coins, a ship, coins it is clear to see private in name only won't prevent bending the knee.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-96" data-t="96">Freedomism</span> <span class="cue" id="t-97" data-t="97">likes it not bestowed by the ruling class. Ruth is objective, and if you ignore it, we'll kick you in the ass.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-103" data-t="103">Well, as the problem of a victim of self respect, outsourcing responsibility</span> <span class="cue" id="t-108" data-t="108">to whoever Cinecoup selects.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-110">1:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-110" data-t="110">The most hateful things you'll have are your time and your mind.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-113" data-t="113">Surrendering</span> <span class="cue" id="t-114" data-t="114">those is what makes the world blind.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-147" data-t="147">Spiritual</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-157">2:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-157" data-t="157">war.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-186">3:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Travis</b> <span class="cue" id="t-186" data-t="186">I'm Travis.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-188" data-t="188">I'm 35 years old, and I'm a longshoreman near Baltimore.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-191" data-t="191">I discovered the intellectual Silk Road through some of my favorite non compliant Bitcoin podcasts, like The Bugle and Ungovernable Misfits.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-200">3:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Travis</b> <span class="cue" id="t-200" data-t="200">Thanks to the intellectual Silk Road, I learned how to leverage Nostr,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-205" data-t="205">eCash,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-206" data-t="206">and multiple privacy enhancing techniques that have empowered me to become the sovereign individual</span> <span class="cue" id="t-211" data-t="211">I always dreamt of becoming.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-213" data-t="213">The intellectual Silk Road gave me the tools and the resources</span> <span class="cue" id="t-217" data-t="217">necessary to become the epicenter of hyper Bitcoinization</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-220">3:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Travis</b> <span class="cue" id="t-220" data-t="220">in my community.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-221" data-t="221">I look forward to growing as a sovereign peer in this vast society of other sovereign individuals, and I encourage everyone interested in joining the intellectual Silk Road to do</span> <span class="cue" id="t-232" data-t="232">so.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-234">3:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Narrator</b> <span class="cue" id="t-234" data-t="234">Travis is just one of countless individuals gaining value</span> <span class="cue" id="t-237" data-t="237">in the fastest growing value for value community</span> <span class="cue" id="t-240" data-t="240">the world has ever seen. Will you join us? Find out more about the intellectual Silk Road today.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-251">4:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Narrator</b> <span class="cue" id="t-251" data-t="251">This week, the people of the world will be watching David Bailey's Twitter account with notifications</span> <span class="cue" id="t-257" data-t="257">turned on as he is about to break the Internet while breaking all the rules.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-261" data-t="261">Bailey is throwing the world's biggest bitcoin only conference while inviting shitcoiners,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-267" data-t="267">politicians with questionable histories,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-269" data-t="269">influencers of all persuasions,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-271" data-t="271">trans people, Monero influencers,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-273">4:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Narrator</b> <span class="cue" id="t-273" data-t="273">members of intelligence agencies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-275" data-t="275">members of the intellectual Silk Road, and many more.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-279" data-t="279">He vows to break the internet in a way that makes CrowdStrike look like a walk in the park while shooting the price of Bitcoin up to unimaginable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-286" data-t="286">heights.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-287" data-t="287">We are all going to get rich while watching the greatest spectacle in history,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-291" data-t="291">while Terrence Yang sits at home pouting while playing the world's smallest violin.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-296">4:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Narrator</b> <span class="cue" id="t-296" data-t="296">Journalists Richard Grieser and Rod Palmer will be on the ground, covering the breaking stories,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-301" data-t="301">while also subverting compliant PodConv culture by selling non KYC cigarettes in a peer to peer manner. Will Bitcoin be able to hit 100 ks by conference day? The God candle is coming, and it's going to be David Bailey who ushers it in. Brace yourself because this is hyperbitcoinization.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-326">5:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Announcer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-326" data-t="326">You are listening to the Bugle Weekly, the most thermodynamically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-329" data-t="329">sound podcast in the game.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-332" data-t="332">Here are your hosts, Rod Palmer and Dick Greaser.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-351">5:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-351" data-t="351">It's pretty crazy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-352" data-t="352">Like, just staying on with you, man. How you doing?</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-355">5:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-355" data-t="355">Yeah. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-356" data-t="356">Talk about crazy week, crazy news. It's hard to know where to begin. It feels like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-363" data-t="363">you know, a few years ago,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-365" data-t="365">you'd have something like Obama wearing a Korean suit but dominate the noose for a week</span> <span class="cue" id="t-371" data-t="371">and then the president, you know, former president</span> <span class="cue" id="t-375" data-t="375">and probably the next president gets shot in the ear</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-378">6:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-378" data-t="378">because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-379" data-t="379">the Secret Service,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-380" data-t="380">was afraid to go on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-383" data-t="383">a sloped roof,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-386" data-t="386">and now the president just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-388" data-t="388">resigned or dropped out of the presidential race,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-393">6:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-393" data-t="393">via a tweet</span> <span class="cue" id="t-394" data-t="394">and nobody's seen or heard from him since</span> <span class="cue" id="t-397" data-t="397">Warren Loomer says that he's dying</span> <span class="cue" id="t-400" data-t="400">Charlie Kirk says that he might already be dead</span> <span class="cue" id="t-403" data-t="403">I have nobody knows anything.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-405" data-t="405">And,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-407">6:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-407" data-t="407">but TikTok, next block, Bitcoin does not care. In fact, it's going up, and it's going up because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-413" data-t="413">allegedly,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-414" data-t="414">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-415" data-t="415">the former president who survived</span> <span class="cue" id="t-418" data-t="418">the Secret Service incompetence,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-421" data-t="421">is going to make, according to Dennis Porter,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-424">7:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-424" data-t="424">credential journalist Dennis Porter says that, he's gonna make Bitcoin part of the strategic reserve.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-430" data-t="430">So cigarette money will be a part of the strategic reserve.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-433" data-t="433">I don't know where you wanna start this week, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-436" data-t="436">I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-437" data-t="437">I guess what is on a lot of people's mind is conspiracy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-442" data-t="442">What do you think about</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-444">7:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-444" data-t="444">in the wake of this information about this assassination attempt and then suddenly</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-449">7:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-449" data-t="449">President Biden just disappears. Yeah. I think it's pretty interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-454" data-t="454">I I don't really know what to make of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-457" data-t="457">everything going on right now. And, like, I think this is, like, one of the important skill sets</span> <span class="cue" id="t-464" data-t="464">of traditional ones.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-465" data-t="465">It's it's a thing when they when they get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-469" data-t="469">it's like one of the problems is a lot of our</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-473">7:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-473" data-t="473">competitors.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-474" data-t="474">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-475" data-t="475">Like, people like Warlord. She</span> <span class="cue" id="t-479" data-t="479">makes things up all the time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-482" data-t="482">She pretends to know things.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-485" data-t="485">And I know some people have been accused of dancing</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-488">8:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-488" data-t="488">this week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-489" data-t="489">Wait.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-490" data-t="490">He he doesn't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-492" data-t="492">like, people people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-493" data-t="493">are attacking Dennis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-495" data-t="495">because</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-498">8:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-498" data-t="498">Victor jealous. I think they're jealous of all the work all the proof of work that he's put in. I think they're jealous of the sources that he's carrying,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-508" data-t="508">and and he screwed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-510" data-t="510">As far as, you know, for president, students, it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-517" data-t="517">it just feels like a really tough time for democracy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-521" data-t="521">We don't we don't know what's going on. Resigning</span> <span class="cue" id="t-525" data-t="525">with a treaty who knows if that is real.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-529">8:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-529" data-t="529">If if Elon Elon has been launching an absolutely relentless</span> <span class="cue" id="t-534" data-t="534">civil attack</span> <span class="cue" id="t-536" data-t="536">on this all.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-538" data-t="538">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-539" data-t="539">you know, we're we're trying to there's no disabled things. I think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-545" data-t="545">like, one of the solutions in providing that civil defense is to</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-552">9:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-552" data-t="552">platform which he controls. Because he he hides the the the the light</span> <span class="cue" id="t-558" data-t="558">and then he runs the bots. That's that's</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-561">9:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-561" data-t="561">that's my question. So the bots there's so many bots on Twitter, and they're crypto bots, but they're the my most annoying ones are the political bots, the Ukraine bots, the pro Biden bots.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-572" data-t="572">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-573" data-t="573">how how do the bots know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-576" data-t="576">that Biden</span> <span class="cue" id="t-577" data-t="577">might be dead? How do the bots know that he dropped out of the race?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-581" data-t="581">How do they know who's going to</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-584">9:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-584" data-t="584">replace him? Because I think a lot of these bots have been deployed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-588" data-t="588">under the expectation that Biden was gonna be the candidate against Trump and now there's I don't think anybody knows anything. So you talked about it and you said that the press</span> <span class="cue" id="t-599" data-t="599">needs to learn when they don't know and so after this, the debate a few weeks ago, everybody accused the press of knowing that Joe Biden was, was, was senile, he had dementia and that they were holding it, withholding it from the American people. And so they've tried to overcorrect</span> <span class="cue" id="t-618" data-t="618">by act, you know, they didn't know. I mean, I think it's obvious that the president is really stupid and they just don't know anything</span> <span class="cue" id="t-624" data-t="624">because now they've been trying to overcorrect the past few weeks and act like they do know about a lot of things. And it's obvious that they don't and it's causing all this chaos. Nobody knows which news to trust because everybody's got a different, somebody's reporting that the president Biden is staying in the race. Some people report that he's dropping out. Some people report</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-645">10:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-645" data-t="645">that is, you know, he's agreed to do this or endorse Kamala Harris. And then other others are saying that's not true.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-653" data-t="653">Now they're saying that he's dead. Some people are saying he's just got COVID. Some people are saying that he's, he doesn't even know that he dropped out of the race yet, but nobody knows. Everybody's pretending they know and it's creating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-665" data-t="665">a crazy amount of confusion.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-667" data-t="667">And like he said, this simple defense, I mean, now that we don't know who's liking the tweet,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-673" data-t="673">you you got something that somebody says, I will vote for Kamala Harris because I like coconuts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-679" data-t="679">K Hive, hashtag K Hive, and it's got, like, 57,000</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-683">11:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-683" data-t="683">likes, and it's only been posted for fifteen minutes. Like, how am I supposed to know if this candidate's actually popular and I should vote give them money? If I if I'm gonna send them sats, donate to their campaign, I wanna know that they're popular, but I can't tell. It can all just be fake likes. Yeah. I know,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-701">11:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-701" data-t="701">and there's been a lot of few weeks out of negotiation.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-704" data-t="704">Bitcoin or or Twitter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-708" data-t="708">Clancy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-709" data-t="709">RBT.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-712" data-t="712">Clancy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-713" data-t="713">believes</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-714">11:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-714" data-t="714">that Joe Biden was actually replaced</span> <span class="cue" id="t-719" data-t="719">for a while.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-721" data-t="721">It was like some sort of like claw or something like that.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-726">12:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-726" data-t="726">Interesting theory. I've heard that too.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-728" data-t="728">They they look at they look at his like this facial</span> <span class="cue" id="t-733" data-t="733">structure.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-734" data-t="734">It is just not the same as it was a couple years ago.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-738">12:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-738" data-t="738">I mean, I think the the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-742" data-t="742">this this kind of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-743" data-t="743">confusion is is being intentionally</span> <span class="cue" id="t-746" data-t="746">put into,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-749" data-t="749">you know, these social media platforms where you build different opinions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-753" data-t="753">on things in order like,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-756">12:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-756" data-t="756">we've been very successfully</span> <span class="cue" id="t-759" data-t="759">non compliant.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-760" data-t="760">And and we're seeing the impacts of our non compliance,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-764" data-t="764">of the compliance strike.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-766" data-t="766">And, you know, all this confusion entering into the ecosystem makes it harder for people to know what to not apply against.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-774" data-t="774">You know what I mean?</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-776">12:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-776" data-t="776">And there's there's a lot of arguments that are going</span> <span class="cue" id="t-779" data-t="779">on.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-781" data-t="781">And and I think that the important message, you know, for our listeners to understand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-787" data-t="787">is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-788" data-t="788">the ultimate form of noncompliance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-791" data-t="791">is</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-792">13:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-792" data-t="792">taking care of yourself and having self confidence and self worth.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-797" data-t="797">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-799" data-t="799">a lot of people are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-801" data-t="801">are missing out on that. You know? They're not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-804" data-t="804">they're not smoking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-806" data-t="806">cigarettes. They're not</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-807">13:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-807" data-t="807">transacting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-808" data-t="808">peer to peer. They're not buying their their cigarettes without KYC. They're not they're not they're not feeding their soul. They're not taking care of themselves.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-818" data-t="818">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-820" data-t="820">and so that's an important thing, you know, to remember right now is it's time to, you know, build yourself up, build the people up around you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-830" data-t="830">instead of getting lost in the noise of all the crazy shit that's going on.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-835">13:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-835" data-t="835">Right. You know, I I think that a lot of the anxiety</span> <span class="cue" id="t-841" data-t="841">and the tension and the negative attitude</span> <span class="cue" id="t-844" data-t="844">in the Bitcoin Twitter community</span> <span class="cue" id="t-847" data-t="847">comes down</span> <span class="cue" id="t-848" data-t="848">to self confidence. Because I think, I mean, today, the big news today on Twitter, it looks like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-854" data-t="854">Swan just laid off all the influencers,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-857">14:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-857" data-t="857">a big portion of their company.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-859" data-t="859">This comes on the heels of, you know, Wallet of Satoshi last year</span> <span class="cue" id="t-864" data-t="864">left The United States. He couldn't use it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-866" data-t="866">Donis from Noester wouldn't let you do Zaps anymore if you use the app from the app store.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-872" data-t="872">You add fees while it's pulling out. You have finance going under and all of these custodial lightning</span> <span class="cue" id="t-879" data-t="879">and custodial Bitcoin solutions</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-882">14:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-882" data-t="882">that people depend on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-884" data-t="884">are going belly up. They're not you can't count on them to stay in business or to you can't count on them to stick around and custody your Bitcoin safely for you. And a lot of people in Bitcoin, they don't know how just to actually use,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-898" data-t="898">to hook up to their node and to use</span> <span class="cue" id="t-901" data-t="901">Bitcoin peer to peer and to send a transaction</span> <span class="cue" id="t-903" data-t="903">from, you know, their device or their computer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-906" data-t="906">and actually</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-908">15:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-908" data-t="908">sovereignly use Bitcoin. And it it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-911" data-t="911">so all these custodial solutions are going under and they're thinking, I'm I'm gonna run out of of custodians</span> <span class="cue" id="t-916" data-t="916">to send lightning for me.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-918" data-t="918">But if they just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-920" data-t="920">get back to the basics and actually learn</span> <span class="cue" id="t-923" data-t="923">how to set up a hardware wallet and take self custody and and broadcast a transaction</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-928">15:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-928" data-t="928">or set up their own lightning</span> <span class="cue" id="t-929" data-t="929">node,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-931" data-t="931">that confidence</span> <span class="cue" id="t-933" data-t="933">and that self worth, that feeling of accomplishment</span> <span class="cue" id="t-937" data-t="937">will give them the confidence they need to not be so bearish</span> <span class="cue" id="t-941" data-t="941">just because a custodial lightning wallet, you know, ends up going bankrupt. And I think that you'll be able to see that Bitcoin has already won and it doesn't even matter</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-953">15:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-953" data-t="953">if you can use WalletSatoshi</span> <span class="cue" id="t-954" data-t="954">or, or Swan,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-956" data-t="956">you, you could still do this yourself. And And people just don't realize that. A lot of people, I would say 90% of the Bitcoiners on Bitcoin Twitter, they don't know how to use Bitcoin peer to peer. Yeah. I mean, and this is one of the dangers</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-969">16:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-969" data-t="969">of Podkoff.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-970" data-t="970">The industry has been way too dependent on Podkoff. And I think they're,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-974" data-t="974">you know, people are waking up to that because, you know, a lot of their favorite influencers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-979" data-t="979">they, you know, work for,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-982" data-t="982">like, one of the one of the core institutions of Podkoff,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-987" data-t="987">Swaddler now, you know, I'm driving some influencer marketing.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-992">16:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-992" data-t="992">It's been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-994" data-t="994">completely turned upside down in the same way that, you know, the shitty white wall has historically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1001" data-t="1001">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1005" data-t="1005">this is like, you know, this is why we reach the importance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1009" data-t="1009">of credentialed experts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1011" data-t="1011">you know, is</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1013">16:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1013" data-t="1013">like, you need you need people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1015" data-t="1015">you need to listen to people who actually have something to stand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1019" data-t="1019">on rather than,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1021" data-t="1021">you know, just what is whatever is popular because, you know, whatever is popular can be artificially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1028" data-t="1028">manipulated into,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1031" data-t="1031">like, the broader</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1033">17:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1033" data-t="1033">cautions.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1035" data-t="1035">But there's there's no there's no way to to go and verify if engagement is real on Twitter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1043" data-t="1043">So why would you just assume that it has merit just because a lot of people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1049" data-t="1049">are liking it? Do you even know the people that are liking it? Are they are they real or are they MPC?</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1055">17:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1055" data-t="1055">Or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1056" data-t="1056">if the president of The United States</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1060" data-t="1060">quits</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1061" data-t="1061">the political race,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1063" data-t="1063">the only</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1065" data-t="1065">way you know about that is because you read it on Twitter.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1069">17:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1069" data-t="1069">You can't believe that. I mean, that is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1072" data-t="1072">that could be a civil attack. That could be,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1075" data-t="1075">you know, the Democratic party</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1078" data-t="1078">using a civil strategy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1080" data-t="1080">to make everybody think that something happened that didn't happen.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1085" data-t="1085">And I think that</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1087">18:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1087" data-t="1087">there's a lot of people who in these uncertain times, they look for an authority or an influencer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1093" data-t="1093">that will make them feel like things are understood and that they debate and predict</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1099" data-t="1099">or tell you what's going to happen to make you feel less anxious.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1103" data-t="1103">And I think there's a lot of the same</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1106" data-t="1106">the same</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1107" data-t="1107">pressures that create make people</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1110">18:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1110" data-t="1110">become statists</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1112" data-t="1112">or the same pressures that make people support PodConf.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1115" data-t="1115">Is, like, people will will say to you, like, if there is no PodCon,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1119" data-t="1119">who will build the Lightning Channels?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1121" data-t="1121">Well, you can build those Lightning Channels. You don't need,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1125" data-t="1125">you know, Voltage</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1126">18:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1126" data-t="1126">or Amber or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1129" data-t="1129">Cash App to build or Bethenix to build the Lightning channels. Like, you can build the Lightning Network without having to pay these fees</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1137" data-t="1137">to the to these collective,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1139" data-t="1139">entities to to build these services for you.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1143">19:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1143" data-t="1143">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1145" data-t="1145">Yeah. I mean, I I cannot testify to that. I I opened a lightning channel myself</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1150" data-t="1150">on my on my typewriter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1152" data-t="1152">with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1154" data-t="1154">with David Bennett from Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1157" data-t="1157">and.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1159">19:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1159" data-t="1159">Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1160" data-t="1160">I was saying, it was a thing for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1162" data-t="1162">y'all. The the feeling of of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1165" data-t="1165">accomplishment after completing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1168" data-t="1168">the solver.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1170">19:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1170" data-t="1170">Hell, yeah. I mean, it probably gives you a lot of confidence. Like if you're cash up, you can't use cash up, you can do this yourself.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1177">19:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1177" data-t="1177">Yeah. I mean, if we're a true producer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1181" data-t="1181">can open a lightning channel</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1184" data-t="1184">with another</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1185" data-t="1185">brilliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1186" data-t="1186">member of the intellectual Silk Road</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1189" data-t="1189">on typewriter,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1193">19:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1193" data-t="1193">then most people care.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1196" data-t="1196">The bar has been set in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1199" data-t="1199">81 IQ.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1201" data-t="1201">And so there's a good chance their listeners can have a higher IQ than that and can accomplish it for themselves.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1208">20:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1208" data-t="1208">Yeah. When people say</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1210" data-t="1210">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1211" data-t="1211">the user experience of light of Bitcoin or Lightning specifically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1215" data-t="1215">is too hard for mass adoption.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1217" data-t="1217">If a journalist can do it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1220" data-t="1220">and you can't do it, I mean, that is,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1223">20:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1223" data-t="1223">you know, that's that's embarrassing. I wouldn't wanna go to the pled party in Nashville</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1228" data-t="1228">and have to explain to fellow pledts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1230" data-t="1230">that journalists can set up a lightning channel, but you've you've never been able to do it or you think it's too hard?</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1236">20:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1236" data-t="1236">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1237" data-t="1237">I mean, I think so there's a there's a type of person</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1241" data-t="1241">that I wanna talk about. And you and I, you know, we attempted to report yesterday, and then I I run told you right as I was about to sit hit the record,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1250" data-t="1250">but then I had to run somewhere.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1253" data-t="1253">We were talking yesterday about this this individual, which we we have titled,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1260" data-t="1260">on a show. And and what this type of person is is it's the type of person where all they do</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1266">21:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1266" data-t="1266">is they listen to podcasts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1268" data-t="1268">and they just regurgitate whatever it means. So, okay, they're not running the Lightning. They're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1274" data-t="1274">in Bitcoin for they're not,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1277" data-t="1277">like, actually, you know, fantasy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1280" data-t="1280">And what they do is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1282" data-t="1282">they go on Tinder news trying to, you know,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1286">21:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1286" data-t="1286">find a romantic partner and they off block themselves by just regurgitating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1291" data-t="1291">with those.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1294">21:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1294" data-t="1294">Right. So so so orange sell, right, that is like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1298" data-t="1298">that's a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1299" data-t="1299">a poor man to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1301" data-t="1301">similar to incel,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1303" data-t="1303">but instead of involuntarily</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1305" data-t="1305">celibate,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1307">21:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1307" data-t="1307">they're orange cells. So they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1310" data-t="1310">they're they're constantly trying</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1312" data-t="1312">to orange</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1314" data-t="1314">pill, and they're always getting shot down.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1317" data-t="1317">And they're never they're just it's it's it's like no matter how nice they are,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1323" data-t="1323">the other person</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1325">22:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1325" data-t="1325">just wants to be friends. They don't wanna talk about Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1329" data-t="1329">And they're just not interested</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1331" data-t="1331">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1332" data-t="1332">it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1333" data-t="1333">sounds like what you're saying is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1336" data-t="1336">it's a lack of confidence that the other person can sense that lack of confidence and it's a turnoff because that person is telling them</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1344">22:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1344" data-t="1344">how great Bitcoin is and like how revolutionary</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1347" data-t="1347">and and censorship resistant it is. And they don't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1351" data-t="1351">actually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1352" data-t="1352">know how to use it in a censorship resistant peer to peer sovereign way. It's, they're just kind of telling another person essentially, Hey, buy this and, and pop my bags</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1362" data-t="1362">so I can sell it off of Coinbase.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1364" data-t="1364">And they're not really, they're selling this, this technology</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1369">22:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1369" data-t="1369">and saying that it's got so many important properties, but really they're only</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1374" data-t="1374">they don't even know how to use it that way.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1376" data-t="1376">And the other person can sense that. Yeah. So</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1380">23:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1380" data-t="1380">I think the the important</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1383" data-t="1383">step,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1384" data-t="1384">because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1387" data-t="1387">it's it's not ideal to be an orange self. You know, individuals,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1391" data-t="1391">it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1392" data-t="1392">beneficial to be in a romantic relationship if you want to be.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1397">23:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1397" data-t="1397">And and you don't wanna self sabotage</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1399" data-t="1399">in the process.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1401" data-t="1401">And so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1402" data-t="1402">while I think it's it's good and healthy to talk about Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1407" data-t="1407">what what these individuals,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1409" data-t="1409">you know, need to do is they</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1412">23:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1412" data-t="1412">they need to just stop regurgitating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1414" data-t="1414">the things that they're hearing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1417" data-t="1417">and and start</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1418" data-t="1418">start potential well, I mean, you can regurgitate the things that we're seeing. But it this you know, part of the problem is is is the input going into their brain,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1428" data-t="1428">which is messing up the output</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1430">23:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1430" data-t="1430">coming out. Right. They're just, like, they're just regurgitating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1434" data-t="1434">the stock to flow model,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1436" data-t="1436">which is not credential. Like, I know credentialed journalists would report on the stock to flow model or no credentialed journalist would cover that on their podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1444" data-t="1444">because it's, it's just, it doesn't make sense. And so you're trying to re you're trying to regurgitate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1450" data-t="1450">plan B in a stock to flow model. And you tell people how much Bitcoin's gonna be worth on this date, just because, you saw it on a rainbow chart</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1458" data-t="1458">and</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1459">24:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1459" data-t="1459">it's people are gonna look at you like you're crazy. Yeah. Well,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1463">24:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1463" data-t="1463">like in another one of the ones, so, you know, people are gonna.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1474" data-t="1474">Oh, yeah. Like, women don't wanna be told</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1479" data-t="1479">most of it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1481" data-t="1481">from my my personal experience.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1483" data-t="1483">My wife,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1487" data-t="1487">William, is William is appreciating</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1488">24:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1488" data-t="1488">with a statement</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1490" data-t="1490">from her from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1492" data-t="1492">her first day.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1494" data-t="1494">She's sort of lecturing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1496" data-t="1496">about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1506" data-t="1506">Bitcoin. Like, I heard a story,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1510">25:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1510" data-t="1510">of an</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1513" data-t="1513">recently.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1516" data-t="1516">He he was so influenced by Alex Fetzky</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1519" data-t="1519">that he started</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1521" data-t="1521">breaking out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1523" data-t="1523">in a British accent</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1524">25:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1524" data-t="1524">and then all of the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1526" data-t="1526">so he was he was oscillating back and forth between speaking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1531" data-t="1531">and fine talking,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1532" data-t="1532">which I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1534" data-t="1534">was kind of alarming to the the ones who are next to him. Oh, yeah. Naturally.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1542">25:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1542" data-t="1542">So people talk about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1544" data-t="1544">Bitcoin podcasts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1546" data-t="1546">making them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1548" data-t="1548">like samurais,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1549" data-t="1549">like Bushido code samurais.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1551" data-t="1551">There are people who are talking about this</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1554">25:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1554" data-t="1554">to regular people?</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1556">25:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1556" data-t="1556">These guys in the Bitcoin world,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1560" data-t="1560">they</span> <span class="cue" data-t="1560">advance the war room to the.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1564" data-t="1564">When it gets to the community,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1566" data-t="1566">they just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1568" data-t="1568">start talking about</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1570">26:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1570" data-t="1570">the sheer decor. Interesting.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1572">26:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1572" data-t="1572">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1573" data-t="1573">Do you think girls</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1575" data-t="1575">think samurai's are cool or is that just a dude thing?</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1578">26:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1578" data-t="1578">Well, I I do think there's a there's a turntable woman out there that finds a new track. Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1585" data-t="1585">they all they want in life, they they they're draining from</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1591">26:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1591" data-t="1591">the, going to So, like, girls that like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1593" data-t="1593">Japanese culture? They like anime?</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1596">26:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1596" data-t="1596">Yeah. Yeah. Kind of kind of similar to that. They they they grow up dreaming getting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1602" data-t="1602">that part of the story. Oh, sure. Sure.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1605">26:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1605" data-t="1605">It's almost like, if, if you if you grow up watching the title twins instead of Disney movies, instead of, like, growing up thinking that you're gonna be saved by a prince, you think that you're gonna be saved by a Bitcoin maximalist.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1618">26:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1618" data-t="1618">Yeah.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1619">26:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1619" data-t="1619">Nice.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1620">26:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1620" data-t="1620">But but there's so few of them that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1622" data-t="1622">are out there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1624" data-t="1624">And it's kinda like hunting for a unicorn.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1627" data-t="1627">You know?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1630" data-t="1630">And I I'm not saying to lower your standards. What I'm saying is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1635" data-t="1635">either you need to</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1637">27:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1637" data-t="1637">you're not gonna find these types of webinars.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1640" data-t="1640">You'll</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1641" data-t="1641">have the same chance of finding a new product with what</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1646" data-t="1646">you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1647" data-t="1647">might be able to</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1650">27:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1650" data-t="1650">I think I think a good analogy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1652" data-t="1652">would be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1653" data-t="1653">it it it's it's the difficulty of finding</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1657" data-t="1657">one of these women. It's it's very rare. So if you don't have, like, if you're a miner and you just have one s nine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1665" data-t="1665">and you just mine in your basement,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1668" data-t="1668">silo mine,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1670">27:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1670" data-t="1670">the chances of you finding a block before you die</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1674" data-t="1674">are incredibly low. I mean, you might as well play the lottery,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1677" data-t="1677">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1679" data-t="1679">if you have, you know, if you have enough, if you're like a strong influencer, if you've got a Bitcoin podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1686" data-t="1686">you know, maybe you've been invited on Simply Bitcoin as a guest at some point. Okay. Maybe, maybe you're like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1692" data-t="1692">a pool. Maybe you've got a really good chance of finding blocks and people are gonna come to you, but if you're just, if, you know, if if you're just looking for these girls randomly on Twitter, if this is like a</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1705">28:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1705" data-t="1705">a brute force, so to speak, attack to find yourself a unicorn like this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1710" data-t="1710">you're either gonna need to up your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1713" data-t="1713">up your,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1714" data-t="1714">your work</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1716" data-t="1716">or you're gonna have to settle.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1718">28:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1718" data-t="1718">And I I know there's a type of person helping the store,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1722" data-t="1722">and they they feel that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1725" data-t="1725">it's really,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1726" data-t="1726">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1728" data-t="1728">they they take a sense of</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1743">29:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1743" data-t="1743">It is that your personality. That's I mean, it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1746" data-t="1746">is good that you're transparent and that you're upfront with the person that you might be dating, that you you don't have anything else to talk about. Yeah. I think</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1754">29:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1754" data-t="1754">I think there I mean, there's there's two choices. You can you can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1759" data-t="1759">because because I think the thing that people are taking into account when they're doing this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1765" data-t="1765">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1767" data-t="1767">they're they're kinda wasting the other person's time. You know? Because if somebody really doesn't like you, what you wanna say,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1773" data-t="1773">and you just, like, sound into agreement, you kinda</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1777" data-t="1777">get out of this position where they're sitting across from you</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1781">29:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1781" data-t="1781">and then it'll see if they can talk to you until you get to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1784" data-t="1784">like, just when go and find people who are willing to so may maybe what it looks like is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1790" data-t="1790">informing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1791" data-t="1791">the person on the day</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1796" data-t="1796">that that's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1797" data-t="1797">what you you say. In in the Tinder DMs, you're going back to forth and you're going</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1803">30:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1803" data-t="1803">on Monday then.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1806" data-t="1806">So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1807" data-t="1807">hey. For this financial day, I just want to tell you everything that I would be doing in the fall semester</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1814" data-t="1814">or whatever you've been working.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1815">30:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1815" data-t="1815">Yeah. If</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1816" data-t="1816">you listen to enough podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1818" data-t="1818">this shouldn't have to be said, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1821" data-t="1821">just follow your favorite podcaster's example</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1824" data-t="1824">and give them a short snippet excerpt of what the conversation that you're gonna have on this date with them is gonna be like. And if it's, you know, if you just wanna talk about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1833" data-t="1833">the, you know, the the awesome,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1835">30:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1835" data-t="1835">radical recap that you just listened to, just boom, send them a short clip from that podcast episode and say, we're gonna discuss this. And I want you to know, you know, about the really cool developments,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1848" data-t="1848">in hard money that Lynn Alden was telling these guys about.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1851" data-t="1851">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1854" data-t="1854">yeah, I think that's that's probably a a really good approach.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1857">30:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1857" data-t="1857">Yeah. Well, get get give a disclaimer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1860" data-t="1860">Don't be misleading</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1862" data-t="1862">Like, I I know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1864" data-t="1864">I know you get that you might orange pill this person.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1869" data-t="1869">I think there's a lot of people that go on TV because they they say you're gonna get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1874" data-t="1874">sex out of this or under porch pillow</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1878">31:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1878" data-t="1878">by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1879" data-t="1879">the the problem is that you say you're doing neither.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1883" data-t="1883">You're accomplishing neither, and you're actually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1886" data-t="1886">you're actually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1888" data-t="1888">affirming this person because they're gonna walk away</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1891" data-t="1891">and be unable to see the client as more</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1894">31:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1894" data-t="1894">for a much longer time.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1896">31:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1896" data-t="1896">Hell, yeah. For sure. They're gonna be jaded from that. So, like, another idea,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1901" data-t="1901">send them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1902" data-t="1902">a glossary</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1904" data-t="1904">of terms. I mean, if you're gonna be calling people midwits,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1908" data-t="1908">no coiners,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1909" data-t="1909">normies,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1911">31:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1911" data-t="1911">you know, fuck you money, you're gonna be saying these terms.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1914" data-t="1914">Make sure that they understand them ahead of time. Let them study that so that they can be like, oh, I know what he's talking about, EDIQ.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1922">32:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1922" data-t="1922">No. This is actually a positive. Yeah. You you don't want to end the day with the last words that you say to the other person you have fun.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1932" data-t="1932">So let's let's try and avoid</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1936" data-t="1936">that. But, you know, you know, people people are gonna do</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1939" data-t="1939">whatever you're gonna do. But you have to realize,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1942" data-t="1942">you know, all you orange shells out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1945" data-t="1945">there is that, you know, they can afford</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1948">32:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1948" data-t="1948">for all the young people that that we're going to take what these are and broadcast on things.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1954" data-t="1954">Somebody says that you casually mentions it for me, there's probably a pretty significant chance that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1960" data-t="1960">she's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1961" data-t="1961">interacting with some other orange cell and so she's gonna be less likely to, you know, even give that orange a chance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1968" data-t="1968">And like so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1971" data-t="1971">maybe maybe maybe the solution is, you know, for ourselves is to just stay in your lane</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1979">32:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1979" data-t="1979">and only date at conferences</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1981" data-t="1981">and maybe what the conferences need to do is to set up Speed dating. Speed dating, yeah. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1989" data-t="1989">But but first</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1993" data-t="1993">so there's multiple challenges with this. There's not a lot of women in this space and and there are more women coming into this space but it's not necessarily</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2002" data-t="2002">biologically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2003" data-t="2003">born women. It's it's women transitioning.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2007">33:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2007" data-t="2007">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2008" data-t="2008">so</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2008">that might be kinda confusing for some norm cells who, you know, typically don't act too kindly towards</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2016" data-t="2016">transitioning</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2017" data-t="2017">individuals.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2018">33:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2018" data-t="2018">Right. Right. Yeah. It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2019" data-t="2019">they're gonna be transitioning.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2021" data-t="2021">They might be sunburned because they've been getting a lot of sun. They don't wear sunscreen anymore.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2027" data-t="2027">They're changing their hormones by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2029" data-t="2029">getting seed oils out of their diet and only eating steak.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2032" data-t="2032">It's</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2034">33:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2034" data-t="2034">their body and their mental</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2036" data-t="2036">models</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2037" data-t="2037">are adjusting. They're transitioning</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2040" data-t="2040">from this fiat mindset</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2042" data-t="2042">to this this low time preference</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2045" data-t="2045">lifestyle.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2046">34:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2046" data-t="2046">And you just you have to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2048" data-t="2048">sensitive</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2049" data-t="2049">to that. There's a lot of volatility,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2052" data-t="2052">and there's a lot of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2054" data-t="2054">inconsistency</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2055" data-t="2055">to kinda get through</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2057">34:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2057" data-t="2057">that transition.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2058">34:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2058" data-t="2058">Yeah. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2060" data-t="2060">you know, like, one of the things I got kind of exasperated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2063" data-t="2063">about from that pretty recently</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2066" data-t="2066">was that, you know, people were given Ava channel</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2069" data-t="2069">a hard time for transition.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2072" data-t="2072">And, you know, first of all, you know, they they decided to get upset, like,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2078">34:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2078" data-t="2078">months like, like, seven or eight months after, you know, in the initial announcement.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2083" data-t="2083">And then, like, two, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2086" data-t="2086">all these big foreigners have been talking about how we need more money in the space.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2092" data-t="2092">Saying we need we need more money.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2095" data-t="2095">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2097" data-t="2097">then you</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2099">34:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2099" data-t="2099">can't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2101" data-t="2101">have it.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2104">35:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2104" data-t="2104">Right. Right. You can't.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2105" data-t="2105">Exactly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2106" data-t="2106">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2107" data-t="2107">there's also something to be said. Everybody is worried about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2111" data-t="2111">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2112" data-t="2112">implications</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2113">35:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2113" data-t="2113">of quantum computing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2116" data-t="2116">And quantum computing, if nothing else, can be simplified to say it's not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2122" data-t="2122">it's non binary computing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2125" data-t="2125">And we have a lot, the Bitcoin space is full of people who are maximalists</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2130" data-t="2130">about binaries</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2132" data-t="2132">and especially binary computing, and if we don't have people who can think about</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2136">35:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2136" data-t="2136">the world in a non binary way,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2139" data-t="2139">we open ourselves</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2141" data-t="2141">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2142" data-t="2142">being vulnerable</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2143">35:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2143" data-t="2143">to non binary computing. Yeah, it would be difficult.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2148" data-t="2148">Right.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2151">35:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2151" data-t="2151">We need to interpret.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2153" data-t="2153">Is that okay. Go on.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2155">35:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2155" data-t="2155">We we need to interpret in this industry and this space. And like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2160" data-t="2160">at the bureau, we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2162" data-t="2162">we we appreciate people of different perspectives.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2167" data-t="2167">Because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2168" data-t="2168">it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2169" data-t="2169">allows</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2170">36:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2170" data-t="2170">for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2171" data-t="2171">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2172" data-t="2172">it should be. Like, we we have really fine publishing standards.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2177" data-t="2177">That I mean, this is part of the reason why we want</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2180" data-t="2180">a young, being attractive female. We're we're we're we're sitting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2184" data-t="2184">Amen. It's it's because we're looking for entropy. We're looking for diversity</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2190">36:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2190" data-t="2190">of ITAs and beliefs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2193" data-t="2193">And maybe maybe,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2194" data-t="2194">you know, like, one of the one of the requirements I did is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2198" data-t="2198">you know, for the. Like, it would be a bonus because, you know, maybe say we're looking for college education,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2205" data-t="2205">you know, if they drive</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2208" data-t="2208">a white Jeep,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2211">36:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2211" data-t="2211">a blonde haired</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2212" data-t="2212">and for any sport</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2217" data-t="2217">plus. Because that would provide a lot one inch you know, you neither of us drank white jeans.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2223" data-t="2223">Neither of us are female. Neither of us have blonde hair,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2227" data-t="2227">to young.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2229">37:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Narrator</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2229" data-t="2229">Some people believe the HGX</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2231" data-t="2231">brand is all about rebellion</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2234" data-t="2234">and defiance in the face of the cartel.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2237">37:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Travis</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2237" data-t="2237">They think HGX is a rogue or a maverick</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2240" data-t="2240">unable to bend the knee to the cartel and play nicely,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2244" data-t="2244">but that's such a narrow minded perspective.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2247">37:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Narrator</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2247" data-t="2247">HGX is so much more than that. And this summer, HGX is going to prove it through proof of work.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2255" data-t="2255">The HGX</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2256" data-t="2256">apology burnout tour will challenge the preconceived notions of cartel loyalists, pleb insiders, and PodConf elites. HGX will apologize so hard, he will win over even his most passionate haters,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2268" data-t="2268">or he will die trying.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2271">37:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Narrator</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2271" data-t="2271">You won't wanna miss this tour.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2273" data-t="2273">The tour will feature apology panels in 46</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2277" data-t="2277">cities</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2277">in The US, Canada, and El Salvador.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2281" data-t="2281">If the cartel doesn't accept his apologies willingly,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2285" data-t="2285">he will force them.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2288">38:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Narrator</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2288" data-t="2288">The apology burnout tour starts in Nashville this week at the Bitcoin conference</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2293" data-t="2293">where HGX will be joined by Mars, the cartel,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2297" data-t="2297">and even the former president of The United States,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2300" data-t="2300">Donald J. Trump.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2302" data-t="2302">Tickets are still on sale.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2305" data-t="2305">See the magic.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2306">38:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Narrator</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2306" data-t="2306">See the passion.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2308" data-t="2308">See HGX win the hearts and minds of plebs everywhere.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2315">38:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2315" data-t="2315">Yeah. Exactly. And I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2317" data-t="2317">I to go back to what we started with in this episode,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2321" data-t="2321">I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2323" data-t="2323">what is happening right now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2325" data-t="2325">is there is a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2328" data-t="2328">great</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2329">38:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2329" data-t="2329">increase</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2330" data-t="2330">in entropy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2332" data-t="2332">cultural entropy, financial entropy, information</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2336" data-t="2336">entropy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2338" data-t="2338">It's it's everywhere around us and that's kinda what's causing this chaos and this uncertainty. It's this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2343" data-t="2343">rise in entropy.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2344">39:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2344" data-t="2344">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2345" data-t="2345">the best way</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2347" data-t="2347">to overcome this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2348" data-t="2348">is the same thing, is the same way you become</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2351" data-t="2351">the best money, the best protocol, the best miner of all time,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2356" data-t="2356">is</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2358">39:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2358" data-t="2358">proof of work.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2359" data-t="2359">The more work you put into yourself</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2361" data-t="2361">and, you know, if you are, for example, a hot chick who drives a white Bronco and has blonde hair, the more proof of work you put into your fitness, into your looks, the more of a chance that you're gonna stand out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2373" data-t="2373">and be a great candidate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2376" data-t="2376">to work with us.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2378">39:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2378" data-t="2378">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2379" data-t="2379">I plan to stand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2381" data-t="2381">in the parking lot and watch for the white teams and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2386" data-t="2386">collecting resumes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2388" data-t="2388">for a resident.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2391">39:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2391" data-t="2391">Yeah. So you have a new resume ready, have your CV ready. And if, a guy smoking a Marlboro cigarette walks up to you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2399" data-t="2399">and announces himself as a credentialed journalist,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2402" data-t="2402">have that CV ready?</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2405">40:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2405" data-t="2405">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2408" data-t="2408">I I think this conference is gonna be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2411" data-t="2411">We're in a position to be looking for a super smokin' hot producer because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2417" data-t="2417">John made Ungovertable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2419" data-t="2419">investments.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2421" data-t="2421">There's so much hash rate at the New Wall. He gave he gave us almost a penny for a week.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2429">40:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2429" data-t="2429">I I I think, you know, the the number of Bitcoin, you know, the third Trump speeds</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2437" data-t="2437">and he pumps Bitcoin to $200,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2440" data-t="2440">But, like, this is my prediction. This is gonna happen, but still,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2443" data-t="2443">he's gonna talk and then Bitcoin, you know, during this before the speech, is gonna be, like, close to $70,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2451" data-t="2451">and after it's gonna be like 210,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2453" data-t="2453">or $50,000</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2455">40:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2455" data-t="2455">And that's that's just the start. You know, we're gonna be a a $2,000,000,000,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2459" data-t="2459">Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2460" data-t="2460">you know, based on my expert opinions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2463" data-t="2463">and and charts that I've been looking at. I've been I've been looking at learning how to use three</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2486">41:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2486" data-t="2486">How many cigarettes do you think that would be worth that $4,000,000,000,000</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2493">41:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2493" data-t="2493">Oh, sorry, it priced at the point of point, and let's say 2,000,000,000,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2497" data-t="2497">USDT.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2499">41:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2499" data-t="2499">Oh, yeah, of course.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2501" data-t="2501">Bitcoin has already won, so obviously</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2504" data-t="2504">the dollar standard has moved to Tether.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2507">41:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2507" data-t="2507">We we need to start</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2509" data-t="2509">pricing everything in USDP</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2512" data-t="2512">instead of the orders, like, as soon as possible.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2516" data-t="2516">We can help this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2521" data-t="2521">So many issues.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2523" data-t="2523">I mean, I think we'll hit snag.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2525">42:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2525" data-t="2525">Sanx, you know, from Sanx, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2528" data-t="2528">to try and all of that one. Wow.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2530" data-t="2530">That's We might we might we might even be able to count,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2535" data-t="2535">percent.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2536" data-t="2536">So we we could buy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2538" data-t="2538">probably buy $150.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2545">42:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2545" data-t="2545">Well, that's retirement money.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2548" data-t="2548">Wow. I mean, so, yeah, so I think it's it's it seems like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2553" data-t="2553">what is potentially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2555" data-t="2555">possible</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2556" data-t="2556">in Nashville at this conference is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2558" data-t="2558">while Trump</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2560">42:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2560" data-t="2560">is gonna be on stage,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2561" data-t="2561">you know, pumping the Bitcoin price,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2565" data-t="2565">announcing hyper Bitcoinization, letting everybody know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2568" data-t="2568">that Bitcoin has won</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2570" data-t="2570">at the same time. So this is gonna be live streamed on every news network because that's I mean, every every single conference or a rally or big event that Trump speaks at from this point on is gonna be live streamed by BBC,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2583" data-t="2583">CNN, FOX, ABC, everybody, even MSNBC.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2587">43:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2587" data-t="2587">And he's gonna be up there and right next to him is gonna be Elon Musk</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2592" data-t="2592">is gonna be tweeting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2593" data-t="2593">memes with laser eyes and, like, Bitcoin, like, his favorite Bitcoin memes that were probably the funniest memes in 2021.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2600" data-t="2600">And so it's it's gonna be trending on Twitter. It's gonna be live streamed on every show. And then he's gonna say, according to Dennis Porter, that he's putting Bitcoin in the strategic reserve. So that's gonna send it through the roof. And we're, and the reason that's important and the reason we bring up cigarettes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2615" data-t="2615">is because now this potentially puts us in a place</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2619" data-t="2619">where we move off the Petro the Petro Tether</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2622">43:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2622" data-t="2622">and on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2624" data-t="2624">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2626" data-t="2626">a monetary</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2627" data-t="2627">standard</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2628" data-t="2628">that's most, like, native commodity trade</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2632" data-t="2632">is cigarettes. So it's it becomes the Marlboro</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2635">43:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2635" data-t="2635">the Marlboro currency. It's like we're not using the dollar anymore, but it's like the Marlboro dollar, so the Petro dollar.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2642">44:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2642" data-t="2642">I mean, so so Boris,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2644" data-t="2644">they deserve to be.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2647" data-t="2647">We need to we need to get out of this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2650" data-t="2650">Like, why why is the embassy?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2654" data-t="2654">It's not just.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2662" data-t="2662">US.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2688">44:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2688" data-t="2688">And everybody has, you know, to trade on the murder of the army, even if you're in prison. I mean, that's one of the biggest trades in prison is all is Marlboros,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2697" data-t="2697">and now you have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2700" data-t="2700">a currency that can't be kidnapped by banks. So if you're a felon, you could still use it. So now you can pay. You can you can demand your prison payments</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2709" data-t="2709">in Bitcoin, and you can you can trade sats</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2712">45:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2712" data-t="2712">for cigarettes even in prison. And that's, I mean, that's that's censorship resistance right there. I'm gonna put you on the spot. Do wait. What are your predictions from the conference? Do you you're entitled?</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2730">45:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2730" data-t="2730">Yeah. Yeah. I think, I mean, I just told you my my Trump prediction. So that's like the big one. What's the big prediction?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2739" data-t="2739">I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2741" data-t="2741">that that there's gonna be some sort</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2745" data-t="2745">of speaking engagement, whether it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2748" data-t="2748">official or not,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2750" data-t="2750">but it's gonna be disruptive.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2752">45:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2752" data-t="2752">It's gonna involve Dennis Porter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2755" data-t="2755">There's gonna be a lot of simping of politicians.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2759" data-t="2759">I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2760" data-t="2760">without</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2761" data-t="2761">RFK,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2762" data-t="2762">Vivek,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2764">46:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2764" data-t="2764">Trump, all these different senators and congressmen and regulators</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2767" data-t="2767">from, the the Biden administration.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2770" data-t="2770">Everybody's gonna be extremely respectful and really send those politicians</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2774" data-t="2774">and really try to encourage them to get out, give us NGU.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2779" data-t="2779">I think there's gonna be a lot of feds and spits there. And we talked about this. They're gonna be wearing Monero t shirts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2785" data-t="2785">and, and even Bitcoin t shirts and they're gonna really want to talk to you about privacy</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2790">46:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2790" data-t="2790">and they're, for some reason, gonna have like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2793" data-t="2793">a haircut like they're in the Marine Corps, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2796" data-t="2796">there's gonna be a lot of that and there's gonna be a lot of fun. There's gonna be a lot of non KYC cigarettes. As much as there's gonna be these negative things I just mentioned, there's gonna be a lot of non compliance,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2807" data-t="2807">a lot of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2808" data-t="2808">non KYC</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2810" data-t="2810">transactions</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2811">46:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2811" data-t="2811">and a lot of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2813" data-t="2813">a lot of peer to peer converse as well.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2818">46:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2818" data-t="2818">Yeah. They're just probably doing good for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2820" data-t="2820">doing good transactions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2822" data-t="2822">if you need to know.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2826" data-t="2826">For sure.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2828" data-t="2828">You</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2830">47:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2830" data-t="2830">know, it now that we bring this up, not to get too off track</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2834" data-t="2834">before we I'll make sure we remember you get to your predictions, but I did want to cover</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2839" data-t="2839">if you went on an orange cell</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2841" data-t="2841">and you get on a first date</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2843" data-t="2843">and the the girl</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2845" data-t="2845">tells you that she prefers Monero,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2848">47:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2848" data-t="2848">well, then what do you do? Because that's kind of a curveball that you're not expecting. Yeah. I mean,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2853">47:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2853" data-t="2853">maybe it'd be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2855" data-t="2855">worthwhile when it falls from, say, little</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2859" data-t="2859">spots to move from.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2861">47:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2861" data-t="2861">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2862" data-t="2862">Well, one thing I'll I mean, we'll get back to your predictions. I just think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2866" data-t="2866">that's a diamond in the rough. Right? Because if you have a girl who's really, really, really, really focused</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2871" data-t="2871">on privacy and she's a Monero maximalist,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2874" data-t="2874">every time I've met one of those girls, they're extremely sexy. They're extremely hot. So if you find that, don't let it go. It's definitely not a fed, or maybe it is. I don't know. But what is your predictions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2886" data-t="2886">for the conference? Let's see.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2889">48:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2889" data-t="2889">What do I do?</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2890">48:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2890" data-t="2890">Which politician do you think will be sent the hardest other than I don't know. All politicians</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2896">48:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2896" data-t="2896">feel like there's still announcements</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2898" data-t="2898">yet to be made.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2900" data-t="2900">As in North Kadeh, there's not gonna be much shipping for him. He was he was the last fewest news. Is it?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2908" data-t="2908">Yeah. I mean, well, all the politicians are.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2911" data-t="2911">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2913" data-t="2913">he I don't know</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2915">48:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2915" data-t="2915">I don't know who's gonna be the the same thing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2918" data-t="2918">I think it probably be somebody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2920" data-t="2920">who whoever whoever whichever politician</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2923" data-t="2923">speaking name that seems the hardest for Trump</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2926" data-t="2926">he's gonna be the one,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2929" data-t="2929">the person for the army.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2931">48:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2931" data-t="2931">My prediction is it's gonna be,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2934" data-t="2934">California Congressman Ro Khanna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2936" data-t="2936">because he's a progressive. And I think a bunch of, libertarians are gonna wanna be like, Hey,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2942" data-t="2942">we're we're libertarians, but we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2945" data-t="2945">really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2946" data-t="2946">believe that Bitcoin is money for enemies and that it's for everyone. And we want</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2951">49:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2951" data-t="2951">to welcome the progressives</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2953">49:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2953" data-t="2953">to this community. Yeah. I mean, I know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2957" data-t="2957">it that's probably the issue.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2959" data-t="2959">I I do.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2963" data-t="2963">And my employee exchange, I mean, it it feels like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2966" data-t="2966">you almost have to make a bigger card of the most unexpected</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2970" data-t="2970">things that's gonna happen because Wax</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2973">49:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2973" data-t="2973">ones.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2974" data-t="2974">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2976" data-t="2976">There's already been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2978" data-t="2978">some pretty significant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2980" data-t="2980">unexpected things. David</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2982" data-t="2982">Bailey's Twitter account was just</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2985">49:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2985" data-t="2985">that is pretty interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2990" data-t="2990">I think there's gonna be a lot of arguing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2993" data-t="2993">There's gonna be a lot of arguing about different topics. I think there's gonna be a lot of people that go to the conference</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2999" data-t="2999">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3000" data-t="3000">are upset that they went to the conference. I think there's gonna be a lot of people that go to the conference and they get into the conference.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3007" data-t="3007">I think I think one of your biggest productions I've ever seen is gonna</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3011">50:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3011" data-t="3011">be a press in a room of.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3020" data-t="3020">I expect to see lines coming out of the women's restrooms.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3024" data-t="3024">And I don't know what the ratio to men to women I I feel like in the past,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3029" data-t="3029">the ratio has been like a 100 to one, and I think it'll probably get down to like 50 to one. If I was</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3037">50:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3037" data-t="3037">if I was a Fed who wanted to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3039" data-t="3039">or anybody interested in doing an in real life civil</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3043" data-t="3043">type</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3044" data-t="3044">of attack, I would pay women</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3046" data-t="3046">to stand in line</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3048" data-t="3048">at the bathrooms</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3050">50:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3050" data-t="3050">because having a a line of women coming out of the bathroom at the Bitcoin conference would be an immediate signal. People would be tweeting about that. They would be showing like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3059" data-t="3059">they would</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3060" data-t="3060">posting videos and pictures of it and be like, wow, this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3065" data-t="3065">this is there's so many girls here. You should buy your tickets next year. Yeah. I mean,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3070">51:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3070" data-t="3070">watching out for the girl. Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3073" data-t="3073">yeah. I mean, this is, like, kinda going back to what you said previously about the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3082" data-t="3082">baby. It can't be where</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3083" data-t="3083">we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3084" data-t="3084">Oh, yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3086" data-t="3086">Is the</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3090">51:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3090" data-t="3090">is the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3091" data-t="3091">the situation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3093" data-t="3093">to keep in mind is if you have had the question in your head, is this too big to be true,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3100" data-t="3100">it might be too big to be true.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3104" data-t="3104">There isn't such thing as being too big. And so That's that's true.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3109">51:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3109" data-t="3109">Don't cross to verify.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3111">51:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3111" data-t="3111">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3112" data-t="3112">Don't don't don't go and tell the hot girl</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3117" data-t="3117">your seed phrase,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3119" data-t="3119">your recovery phrase</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3121">52:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3121" data-t="3121">because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3122" data-t="3122">she likes Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3124" data-t="3124">and then arrow.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3125" data-t="3125">And be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3126" data-t="3126">and be careful</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3128" data-t="3128">about telling them your favorite podcast because if you're, like, if your</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3132">52:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3132" data-t="3132">email password</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3134" data-t="3134">or your helper questions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3136" data-t="3136">for one of your accounts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3138" data-t="3138">or some of your people can access your accounts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3142" data-t="3142">if those helper questions are Bitcoin podcasts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3145" data-t="3145">she's gonna be able to guess them.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3147">52:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3147" data-t="3147">Mhmm.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3148" data-t="3148">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3150" data-t="3150">Go ahead.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3152">52:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3152" data-t="3152">Is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3153" data-t="3153">there is there anything on Polymarket</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3155" data-t="3155">for the odds of, Shinobi and d plus plus</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3159" data-t="3159">getting together at the conference?</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3162">52:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3162" data-t="3162">I think the odds are pretty large.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3165" data-t="3165">Unfortunately,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3166" data-t="3166">we may trade the big thing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3169" data-t="3169">It doesn't seem like it's gonna work. I mean, I I feel like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3173" data-t="3173">I feel like there should be a bunch of different options of polymarket</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3178" data-t="3178">for for different players</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3180">53:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3180" data-t="3180">for Shinra.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3183" data-t="3183">I</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3183">think that'd be absolutely fine.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3186">53:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3186" data-t="3186">Would love to see that one.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3189">53:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3189" data-t="3189">I think it's it's one.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3194" data-t="3194">The full one is from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3197" data-t="3197">you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3199" data-t="3199">And I'm sure president Trump's hand recall, I'm sure. Did you know did you know that you can do that for 60,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3206" data-t="3206">USDT,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3208" data-t="3208">and you can get take a picture with them?</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3211">53:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3211" data-t="3211">Yeah. I one of my biggest regrets</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3214" data-t="3214">of</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3214">of this last cycle was I did not stack hard enough</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3218" data-t="3218">to to get the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3220" data-t="3220">ticket to have dinner with Donald Trump.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3224" data-t="3224">If I if I had stacked enough, I definitely would have</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3227">53:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3227" data-t="3227">splurged a little bit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3229" data-t="3229">and and and bought one of those tickets.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3232">53:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3232" data-t="3232">Do you do you think it'd be worth what if you got it? Wait. What we paid what was it? Price tag. It was, like, 824,000.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3241" data-t="3241">US,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3242" data-t="3242">which is that was 14 and some Bitcoin.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3245">54:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3245" data-t="3245">Yeah. I think I think it's down to, like, 12.7</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3248" data-t="3248">Bitcoin now with the price action.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3250" data-t="3250">But, yeah, yeah,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3252" data-t="3252">more more than double six point,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3255" data-t="3255">you know, $1.05.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3269" data-t="3269">I don't know if it would be you have to have a little bit left because</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3273">54:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3273" data-t="3273">once he pumps Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3276" data-t="3276">it creates NGU</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3278" data-t="3278">at a speaking tone.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3280" data-t="3280">You know, the Bitcoin you have left is gonna be worth so much that it's gonna be worth</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3285" data-t="3285">the price you paid to help pump it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3288" data-t="3288">It's kind of a proof of work. It's a state state in the game. So I I think</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3292">54:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3292" data-t="3292">I I guess everybody has a different</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3295" data-t="3295">in a number that had a company patch of cigarettes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3299" data-t="3299">Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3300" data-t="3300">I think if you had 1,000,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3303" data-t="3303">Toshi's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3304" data-t="3304">left on your full card,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3307">55:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3307" data-t="3307">That</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3308" data-t="3308">could mean win</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3309" data-t="3309">win down the trail. Almost</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3312" data-t="3312">Bitcoin 2,000,000,000,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3313" data-t="3313">a coin or 2,000,000,000,000 USDT a coin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3317" data-t="3317">That's basically the only best to</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3320">55:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3320" data-t="3320">essentially the proven that we're playing a bit to be.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3323">55:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3323" data-t="3323">Right. I mean, it's it's it's definitely worth it's an asymmetric</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3326" data-t="3326">bet</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3327" data-t="3327">with a huge, huge upside. And, you know, worst case scenario,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3332" data-t="3332">he pumps it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3334" data-t="3334">a 100%,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3335" data-t="3335">you know, and it's still, you know,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3337">55:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3337" data-t="3337">you have more time to stack. Yeah. The next post is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3341" data-t="3341">from my favorite. I'm excited to meet you at the conference, miss hobblemont</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3345" data-t="3345">four twenty.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3347" data-t="3347">She boosted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3348" data-t="3348">us 6,969</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3351" data-t="3351">sets, sixty nine sixty nine.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3354">55:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3354" data-t="3354">She says my OPSEC at the conference is gonna be on point.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3358" data-t="3358">I'm gonna pretend like I don't even know what the narrow is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3362" data-t="3362">That</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3363" data-t="3363">is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3365" data-t="3365">that's kind of that smart especially anybody who listed this They'll be very,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3369" data-t="3369">suspicious</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3370">56:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3370" data-t="3370">of you when you're there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3372" data-t="3372">Now, I'm suspicious</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3374" data-t="3374">of you that you know what Monero is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3377" data-t="3377">but I still I still want to to sell you non KYC cigarettes and I'm still willing</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3382">56:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3382" data-t="3382">to, risk it all. Well, if her offset is good enough, you may not.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3388" data-t="3388">You might not.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3390">56:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3390" data-t="3390">That's true. She might meet me and I won't know it.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3394">56:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3394" data-t="3394">Yeah. I wonder</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3396" data-t="3396">do you I mean, do you think she looks like her profile picture? Maybe that's the tell. Well, I</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3401">56:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3401" data-t="3401">I certainly hope so. Otherwise, I'm gonna be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3405" data-t="3405">easily wiped out.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3406" data-t="3406">Say the least.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3408">56:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3408" data-t="3408">She kinda looks like somebody that would try the white cheap, so I'm gonna be looking out for her in that in Absolutely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3415" data-t="3415">Our, our next boost is from ghost</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3418" data-t="3418">underscore shadrach</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3420" data-t="3420">for 5150¢.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3423" data-t="3423">And so I listened to the podcast in my sleep,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3426" data-t="3426">and then I had to wake up and listen to it again because I couldn't remember. Two two stars out of five don't</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3433">57:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3433" data-t="3433">recommend. He's talking about the experience of falling asleep and having to look over. He's he's not giving the episode two out of five stars. I think he's given he boasted 5,000 subs. I I I interpret that as five stars. I just had somebody who wanted to appear to peer to peer to peer connection with the reach out to me, So I got a little bit distracted.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3452">57:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3452" data-t="3452">Yeah. I mean, like, if if you're gonna rate our podcast low,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3456" data-t="3456">I I think that I totally miss what you just said.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3460">57:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3460" data-t="3460">No. No. He wasn't he wasn't reading our podcast low. He was reading falling asleep and having to relisten as the two out of five stars, but he was getting us five stars as, I interpreted from the 5,000 stats, 1,000 stats, one cigarette</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3474" data-t="3474">per, per star.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3476">57:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3476" data-t="3476">Well, you know, there's there's the the type of professional</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3481" data-t="3481">podcast listener. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3483" data-t="3483">I think what a lot of people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3487" data-t="3487">what a lot of people do, you know, is, you know, when they're when they're, you know, they show up to work, their full time job is listening to Big White Podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3496" data-t="3496">They they only put forty hours a week. And, you know, and, like, as journalists, we we put, I don't know how many hours a week. I don't typically track. What's, like, almost all of the waking hours, you know, I'm working.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3508" data-t="3508">And</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3511">58:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3511" data-t="3511">you can actually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3512" data-t="3512">supplement</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3513" data-t="3513">your job as a full time podcast listener by listening to podcasts while you sleep and while you don't retain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3520" data-t="3520">all of the information in your conscious,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3523" data-t="3523">in your memory,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3525" data-t="3525">a lot of it sinks into your subconscious</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3528">58:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3528" data-t="3528">as you sleep. And so it it you have a deeper understanding of Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3534" data-t="3534">And you can actually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3536" data-t="3536">increase the hours</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3538" data-t="3538">of podcast listened to in a passive way. And so if there's Interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3544" data-t="3544">Yeah. If there it's kinda like, you know, learning Bitcoin through osmosis almost. I need to practice that. Shredrx onto something</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3552">59:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3552" data-t="3552">The,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3553" data-t="3553">the next bonus we got from our friends at Orange Mart</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3557" data-t="3557">Thank you for visiting Orange Mart 5,000 subs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3561" data-t="3561">Of course, they are referencing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3564" data-t="3564">Richard,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3565" data-t="3565">his tour</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3566">59:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3566" data-t="3566">and his experience,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3568" data-t="3568">going to Orange Mart. And he's if you're interested in that, I think he's gonna be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3574" data-t="3574">planning,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3575" data-t="3575">hopefully, some more Orange Mart expeditions,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3579" data-t="3579">maybe doing some live</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3581" data-t="3581">streaming.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3582">59:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3582" data-t="3582">What's that app that you were gonna use?</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3585">59:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3585" data-t="3585">I used,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3587" data-t="3587">Zap. Stream.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3588">59:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3588" data-t="3588">Zap. Stream. Stream.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3590" data-t="3590">Kinda like Twitch, but like lightning. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3593">59:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3593" data-t="3593">a great app. I I was really impressed with it actually because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3598" data-t="3598">they give you a lot of the tools that you want from different streaming apps. Like, you wanna be able to embed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3605" data-t="3605">your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3606" data-t="3606">comments, and YouTube doesn't let you do that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3610" data-t="3610">But they have a tool</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3612" data-t="3612">for you to be able to, like, put your comments up on the screen. So instead of having to look, you know, for the viewer having to look over at the the chat, they can just see it right there for me. But I gotta say, I mean, that was a great plan. Like, I I</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3626">1:00:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3626" data-t="3626">I showed up to the orange bar. I didn't tell anybody I was gonna be there. You know? And I had a tour guide.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3633" data-t="3633">Showed me. You know?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3634" data-t="3634">And I toured</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3635" data-t="3635">the show. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3637" data-t="3637">the the three of our school</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3639" data-t="3639">ran around the helicopters,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3641">1:00:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3641" data-t="3641">going for train rides,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3642" data-t="3642">riding off horses.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3644" data-t="3644">It really is a great</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3646" data-t="3646">like, I showed up to the Orange Mart Lincoln. I walked away with clothes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3651" data-t="3651">And I had I had a great time.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3654">1:00:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3654" data-t="3654">That that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3656" data-t="3656">that streaming that what was the name of it again?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3660" data-t="3660">Zabd.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3661" data-t="3661">Zabd. Stream. That seems like it would be awesome</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3665" data-t="3665">to have some sort of Gnoster integration</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3668" data-t="3668">where you could, like,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3669">1:01:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3669" data-t="3669">post</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3670" data-t="3670">some sort of, embed of your stream</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3673" data-t="3673">in a Noister post that somebody could click on that in Noister through their primal or or whatever</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3679" data-t="3679">client they use and then</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3681" data-t="3681">have that live stream</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3683" data-t="3683">view that from their Noister app, and then you could comment on it from Noister or Zap it, and it would it would integrate with zap.stream.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3689">1:01:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3689" data-t="3689">I don't know. That just seems like a cool integration of</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3692">1:01:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3692" data-t="3692">nobody's already working on that. Yeah. I I think they'd be pretty cool. They I said, you know, you know, priority to increase privacy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3703" data-t="3703">Mhmm. He said people have to use</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3706" data-t="3706">the community to to use the opportunity to to watch more.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3710" data-t="3710">One of my biggest mistakes was the, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3713" data-t="3713">know, I didn't report</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3716" data-t="3716">Because I I wasn't naked. That'd be embarrassing. Yeah. I wasn't even planning on me to be showing off. Well,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3725">1:02:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3725" data-t="3725">because I have so much engagement with other people who need a lot more interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3730" data-t="3730">Where do you start to cry</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3731">1:02:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3731" data-t="3731">at the keys when you're naked?</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3734">1:02:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3734" data-t="3734">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3736" data-t="3736">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3737" data-t="3737">you have to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3740" data-t="3740">I I think that I'd like to be screaming more</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3744" data-t="3744">frequently. I thought that I thought the RSC would chance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3747" data-t="3747">to stream it, like, throwing.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3751">1:02:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3751" data-t="3751">I can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3753" data-t="3753">stream it more in the future.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3761" data-t="3761">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3762" data-t="3762">We we fought with you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3764" data-t="3764">We lost getting out with me in Orangeburg.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3767" data-t="3767">They went away.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3770">1:02:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3770" data-t="3770">Yeah. Again, we'll schedule. We'll stream.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3774" data-t="3774">It's from Sass from Sideweb.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3777" data-t="3777">The next post is from Sassen 02/2021.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3781" data-t="3781">And he says,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3783" data-t="3783">you're most mayor</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3785" data-t="3785">to make your bed</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3786">1:03:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3786" data-t="3786">and and how much Jordan Peterson</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3789" data-t="3789">and Breedlove hosted by Sherwin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3792" data-t="3792">Libertarian fanboys.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3793" data-t="3793">And, yeah, in the end of the day, I'm</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3796" data-t="3796">pretty confident that she would be never makes you think.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3800" data-t="3800">So maybe</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3801">1:03:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3801" data-t="3801">more interesting, I feel like he'd probably argue with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3804" data-t="3804">Jordan Peterson.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3806">1:03:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3806" data-t="3806">He should be listening, then he'd make his bed. He'd probably be a little happy. Me and Terrence would probably be able to make up.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3812">1:03:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3812" data-t="3812">I mean, do you think Glenn would be lower action than she can? I feel like, well, it would be the type of guy that says that he makes his bed. Oh, yeah. I can definitely see him being,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3822">1:03:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3822" data-t="3822">I guess it's like stolen bat stolen valor</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3825" data-t="3825">for making his bed. He tells everybody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3827" data-t="3827">he makes his bed because Jordan Peterson</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3830" data-t="3830">he listens to Jordan Peterson, but I bet you go there. It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3834" data-t="3834">it's, you know, a hospital corner is nothing.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3838">1:03:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3838" data-t="3838">He's that type of guy that if he made his bed, he probably should have. Probably, probably.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3843">1:04:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3843" data-t="3843">The next next is from rev.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3847" data-t="3847">Outel.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3848" data-t="3848">He says</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3849" data-t="3849">he based it as 2,121</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3852" data-t="3852">sats,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3853" data-t="3853">and he says, I'm no spook nor am I easily spooked. Yeah. Hell yeah.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3859">1:04:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3859" data-t="3859">Alright. That was great, bro.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3861" data-t="3861">We we appreciate you for not being spooked. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3865" data-t="3865">I I think it's it's important right now to know.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3867" data-t="3867">It's important to have,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3871" data-t="3871">what's the point,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3873" data-t="3873">to resilience</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3875">1:04:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3875" data-t="3875">Yeah. To to not be sure. You know? Because this is they're like, when I work in the media, one thing I was taught</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3882" data-t="3882">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3883" data-t="3883">whenever there was any sort of crisis, it was the time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3887" data-t="3887">to you've been trying to talk to new people.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3894" data-t="3894">So it's part of the the.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3897" data-t="3897">There's usually a lot of there's a lot of crazy stuff happening.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3901">1:05:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3901" data-t="3901">Right. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3902" data-t="3902">to piggyback off the advice from the beginning of the episode,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3906" data-t="3906">if you if you know who Ava is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3909" data-t="3909">you can also check him out. He did a podcast with, Plant Chain Radio,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3914" data-t="3914">and he did a podcast with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3916" data-t="3916">the the high high ASH rate, the weed podcast.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3920">1:05:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3920" data-t="3920">They, they talk to him and he he's like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3923" data-t="3923">a off the grid</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3925" data-t="3925">homesteader.</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3925">He's the guy who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3927" data-t="3927">lives off the way. He is sovereign</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3929" data-t="3929">and he does</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3930">1:05:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3930" data-t="3930">Sovereign Mind and he does peer to peer and he is non compliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3935" data-t="3935">and he does it and he survives that way. His whole life is built off of this self sovereignty.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3939" data-t="3939">So he has</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3941" data-t="3941">the confidence</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3942" data-t="3942">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3943" data-t="3943">the resiliency</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3945">1:05:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3945" data-t="3945">because he's done the proof of work.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3950">1:05:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3950" data-t="3950">The the next one is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3952" data-t="3952">yeah. Because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3954" data-t="3954">oh, wait. Wait. I didn't see what was the last piece.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3958" data-t="3958">Dave, this podcast, he mentioned, you know, I I would highly suggest any other podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3964" data-t="3964">in the intellectual circle. If you're a full time podcast listener,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3968" data-t="3968">to not listen to these ones. Those</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3971">1:06:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3971" data-t="3971">are good ones to to listen to when you're away</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3974" data-t="3974">and be able to remember what we said. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3977" data-t="3977">if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3978" data-t="3978">if you listen to them first during your week, then you can listen to it.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3984">1:06:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3984" data-t="3984">Yeah. I would I would piggyback off of that and say</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3987" data-t="3987">those types of podcasts and those episodes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3990" data-t="3990">they're not normal macro,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3992" data-t="3992">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3994" data-t="3994">moon, and GU podcasts. They go a little deeper, so you wanna be awake for those until you're really,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4000" data-t="4000">like a high expert, high functioning podcast listener.</span></span></p>
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