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diff --git a/wiki/transcripts/quit-scaring-the-plebs-bugle-weekly-episode-77.md b/wiki/transcripts/quit-scaring-the-plebs-bugle-weekly-episode-77.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ed76b182 @@ -0,0 +1,583 @@ +--- +title: "Transcript: Quit Scaring The Plebs | Bugle Weekly Episode 77" +type: transcript +episode: quit-scaring-the-plebs-bugle-weekly-episode-77 +generated: true +date: 2025-09-22 +audio: "https://feeds.fountain.fm/R8scBF2Wiykm0YVldsHQ/items/AK7W1g5XX8I4BVOnJ2Yo/files/AUDIO---DEFAULT---7c674a48-c084-48e0-8503-0c08eae8ebb3.mp3" +duration: "1:22:29" +sources: + - raw/episodes/quit-scaring-the-plebs-bugle-weekly-episode-77/bundle.json +--- + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2">0:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2" data-t="2">What's going on?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4" data-t="4">This is Rod Balmer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-6" data-t="6">I prepared</span> <span class="cue" id="t-8" data-t="8">a brief statement</span> <span class="cue" id="t-9" data-t="9">for Bugle listeners today.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-13" data-t="13">Before I begin,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-16">0:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-16" data-t="16">a few acknowledgements.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-18" data-t="18">First,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-20" data-t="20">I believe Bitcoin is money. Alright?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-23" data-t="23">Okay.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-25" data-t="25">We all do, retard.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-27" data-t="27">We are trolling you</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-29">0:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-29" data-t="29">when we say that Bitcoin is anything other than money.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-34" data-t="34">Alright. We're for obviously, we're trolling you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-37" data-t="37">We know that you know that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-40" data-t="40">What does Ray bond</span> <span class="cue" id="t-42" data-t="42">in HGX that got the blueberries hashtag?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-46" data-t="46">We know.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-47">0:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-47" data-t="47">We know.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-49" data-t="49">If you don't know that we're trolling you and we realize it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-54" data-t="54">we're gonna lose all respect to you. We're just bullying you because it's fun and because it's easy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-61" data-t="61">Second,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-62" data-t="62">I believe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-64" data-t="64">spam is bad for Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-67">1:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-67" data-t="67">Again,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-68" data-t="68">same situation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-69" data-t="69">as I just mentioned.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-71" data-t="71">If you don't get it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-73" data-t="73">we don't have time to explain it. We're just going to treat you the way that you have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-79" data-t="79">demonstrated you deserve to be treated, like plead cannon fodder.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-84">1:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-84" data-t="84">And third,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-86" data-t="86">I believe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-88" data-t="88">the people wildly championing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-90" data-t="90">Bitcoin knots</span> <span class="cue" id="t-92" data-t="92">often make valid</span> <span class="cue" id="t-94" data-t="94">important points</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-96">1:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-96" data-t="96">about resilience,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-98" data-t="98">attack surfaces,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-99" data-t="99">and the long term viability</span> <span class="cue" id="t-101" data-t="101">of Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-103" data-t="103">Those arguments matter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-105" data-t="105">The future of Bitcoin against motivated</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-108">1:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-108" data-t="108">self interested actors is not a joke.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-111" data-t="111">And I'll be the first to admit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-114" data-t="114">Bitcoin Core has a culture problem.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-117" data-t="117">It has a growing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-119" data-t="119">legitimacy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-120" data-t="120">problem.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-122">2:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-122" data-t="122">The development process</span> <span class="cue" id="t-124" data-t="124">has flaws.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-125" data-t="125">The funding process</span> <span class="cue" id="t-127" data-t="127">has flaws.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-128" data-t="128">The incentives</span> <span class="cue" id="t-129" data-t="129">of some key core contributors</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-132">2:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-132" data-t="132">are, at the very least,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-134" data-t="134">suspect.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-136" data-t="136">And if CORE ever expects</span> <span class="cue" id="t-138" data-t="138">users to give it the benefit of the doubt again,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-142" data-t="142">changes are necessary.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-145" data-t="145">I also want to acknowledge</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-146">2:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-146" data-t="146">friends,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-148" data-t="148">colleagues,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-149" data-t="149">feds,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-151" data-t="151">and fellow podcasters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-152" data-t="152">on both sides of this node client debate.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-156" data-t="156">I count many Corvinists</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-158">2:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-158" data-t="158">and many Nazis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-160" data-t="160">as allies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-161" data-t="161">peers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-162" data-t="162">and partners in this weird</span> <span class="cue" id="t-165" data-t="165">ecosystem.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-166" data-t="166">Hell,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-167">2:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-167" data-t="167">I'll even smoke a cigarette with a low level fed if he has the decency</span> <span class="cue" id="t-172" data-t="172">to take off his badge when he comes to the smoke pit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-176" data-t="176">Also,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-177" data-t="177">I'm not being paid by any actor with a stake in core or not.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-183" data-t="183">Aside from the tiny public boosts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-186" data-t="186">fuel gets on Fountain, which we even read them in each episode for transparency</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-191">3:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-191" data-t="191">for non Fountain users.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-194" data-t="194">And also those boosts are laughably small and wouldn't buy anyone, you know, a coffee, much less my fucking opinion.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-203" data-t="203">But let's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-204" data-t="204">be clear. Can we?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-206" data-t="206">Can we be adults?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-209" data-t="209">Can we cut the larp, okay?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-211">3:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-211" data-t="211">Many Nazi influencers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-213" data-t="213">are bad actors.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-216" data-t="216">Not all of them,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-217" data-t="217">but many.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-219" data-t="219">There are countless plebs and everyday Bitcoiners who are caught up in this because they're worried and some are genuinely scared.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-229" data-t="229">They are scared for Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-233">3:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-233" data-t="233">They are scared for the security</span> <span class="cue" id="t-235" data-t="235">of their savings.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-238" data-t="238">They're scared of how the government, the state might react to policies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-242" data-t="242">pushed by woke</span> <span class="cue" id="t-244" data-t="244">core developers, and they are woke,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-246" data-t="246">some of them. And they don't listen to Bitcoin podcasts,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-250">4:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-250" data-t="250">clearly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-252" data-t="252">Obadeth fear</span> <span class="cue" id="t-254" data-t="254">is real</span> <span class="cue" id="t-255" data-t="255">because the trust has been shredded across society.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-259" data-t="259">People don't trust neighbors,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-262" data-t="262">coworkers, or even their own family members.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-266">4:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-266" data-t="266">Republicans</span> <span class="cue" id="t-267" data-t="267">don't even trust Israel anymore.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-269" data-t="269">Think about that for a second. Republicans,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-272" data-t="272">they don't even trust Israel anymore.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-275" data-t="275">Don't take that for granted.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-277" data-t="277">It's not just a joke. This has serious ramifications.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-282">4:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-282" data-t="282">They don't trust the institutions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-284" data-t="284">that used to be the scaffolding of civil life.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-287" data-t="287">Credentials are the glue</span> <span class="cue" id="t-290" data-t="290">because we live in a low trust society and there's no going back. Shout out to Satoshi. Great foresight, by the way.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-298" data-t="298">You know, don't trust, verify used to be a meme on Twitter and a catchphrase on podcast, still is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-305" data-t="305">For a lot of people, it was rhetorical candy,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-308">5:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-308" data-t="308">cute,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-309" data-t="309">performative,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-311" data-t="311">harmless.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-312" data-t="312">Well, it's not optional anymore.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-314" data-t="314">We cannot blindly trust anyone, not even cordettes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-319" data-t="319">Bitcoin Core is not an exclusive</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-322">5:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-322" data-t="322">cabal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-323" data-t="323">of C plus plus coders.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-326" data-t="326">Bitcoin Core is not Shinobi.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-328" data-t="328">It's not Gloria. It's not Greg Maxwell.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-330" data-t="330">It's not Peter Weil. It's not Adam Back or Luke Junior</span> <span class="cue" id="t-335" data-t="335">standing alone at that altar. Bitcoin Core is an institution</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-339">5:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-339" data-t="339">like the education system, like the health care system, like the criminal justice system.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-345" data-t="345">It is a story.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-347" data-t="347">A mental model people use to reach consensus.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-352" data-t="352">It's a process for resolving autistic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-355" data-t="355">pedantic,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-356" data-t="356">technical</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-357">5:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-357" data-t="357">conflicts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-358" data-t="358">And like many institutions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-361" data-t="361">and institutions in terminal decline,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-365" data-t="365">EquineCore is taking a legitimacy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-367" data-t="367">hit as the bigger quote unquote vibe shift plays out.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-373" data-t="373">You know it, we're in the, what do you fourth turning, whatever you wanna call it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-378">6:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-378" data-t="378">At the end of the day, the story the end of the story has not been written.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-384" data-t="384">It is uncertain and uncertainty makes people fearful, and fear is a fertile ground.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-391" data-t="391">And the bad actors,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-392" data-t="392">mostly on the not side, are harvesting that fear like it's crop season.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-398" data-t="398">And it Listen,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-400" data-t="400">those who have built their reputations</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-402">6:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-402" data-t="402">inside</span> <span class="cue" id="t-403" data-t="403">Bitcoin Core's institutional</span> <span class="cue" id="t-405" data-t="405">framework will fight tooth and nail to defend it. That is predictable,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-410" data-t="410">I get it. But the hallmark</span> <span class="cue" id="t-413" data-t="413">of a frightened Nazi pleb is this:</span> <span class="cue" id="t-417" data-t="417">fear of the state.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-419">6:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-419" data-t="419">They believe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-420" data-t="420">a clinker</span> <span class="cue" id="t-422" data-t="422">can no longer shield them,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-424" data-t="424">can no longer be trusted to shepherd this project</span> <span class="cue" id="t-428" data-t="428">for them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-430" data-t="430">So they are in search of a new priesthood to protect them.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-435">7:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-435" data-t="435">Here's the rub.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-436" data-t="436">Many Nazi influencers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-438" data-t="438">would rather pick fights with Bitcoiners</span> <span class="cue" id="t-441" data-t="441">than with the state because it's a hell of a lot easier.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-445" data-t="445">They'd rather cash in on your fear than confront the real threat.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-450" data-t="450">They want you scared because they're selling solutions.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-455">7:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-455" data-t="455">They're selling node hardware,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-457" data-t="457">mining software,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-459" data-t="459">premium newsletters,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-461" data-t="461">all kinds of content.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-463" data-t="463">And if they're not taking your money directly,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-466" data-t="466">they're still selling your attention. Attention is a currency. It costs your time, your sats, and your anxiety.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-475">7:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-475" data-t="475">Bad actors are actively stoking that fear to gain influence over your mind</span> <span class="cue" id="t-480" data-t="480">and your ability to afford your taxes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-485" data-t="485">Hey retard.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-487" data-t="487">You don't have to be afraid.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-489" data-t="489">You don't have to be dragged into their histrionics,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-493" data-t="493">but you do have to take</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-495">8:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-495" data-t="495">personal responsibility.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-498" data-t="498">If you want protection,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-500" data-t="500">if you want the government to protect you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-503" data-t="503">great. Keep using fiat.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-505" data-t="505">Use stable coins. Wait for the CBDC. Wait for Tether to roll out. Let them tuck you in.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-512" data-t="512">Bitcoin is about separating money from the state, not about running status approved nodes subscribing to their pedophile apparatus.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-522">8:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-522" data-t="522">Now you might be wondering,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-524" data-t="524">why should you listen to a pseudo anonymous podcaster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-527" data-t="527">who jokes about smoking cigarettes for breakfast?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-531" data-t="531">The short answer is you shouldn't.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-534" data-t="534">You should listen to anyone who tells you what node to run.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-538" data-t="538">Don't take Luke,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-539">8:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-539" data-t="539">Shinobi mechanic, Doctor Adam back, or any influencer at face value when they issue edicts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-547" data-t="547">Inc or yourself.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-551" data-t="551">If you think for yourself,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-554" data-t="554">shinobi calling you a retard</span> <span class="cue" id="t-556" data-t="556">stops having power.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-559" data-t="559">NVK</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-560">9:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-560" data-t="560">saying your no doesn't matter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-563" data-t="563">doesn't matter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-565" data-t="565">Matthew Crater's fear campaign</span> <span class="cue" id="t-567" data-t="567">looks</span> <span class="cue" id="t-568" data-t="568">correctly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-569" data-t="569">like a staged performance</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-572">9:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-572" data-t="572">because that's exactly what it is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-576" data-t="576">And a word of practical advice,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-579" data-t="579">be extremely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-581" data-t="581">skeptical of anyone who encourages you to publicly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-585" data-t="585">identify</span> <span class="cue" data-t="585">as a node runner.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-587">9:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-587" data-t="587">If you think child porn</span> <span class="cue" id="t-589" data-t="589">on your node is gonna cost you peace of mind or attract government attention,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-594" data-t="594">do not dodge yourself and become an easy target.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-598" data-t="598">Be skeptical of anyone who demands that you choose sides.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-602" data-t="602">When people force you into public affiliation,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-604" data-t="604">ask who benefits?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-607">10:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-607" data-t="607">If someone's turning your fear into a product or a crusade, their interest probably don't align with yours.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-615" data-t="615">The battle for Bitcoin is real and it is important.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-619" data-t="619">But it is not decided by whether you run core version 30 or not.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-625" data-t="625">It is decided by the individual.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-629" data-t="629">You don't have to trust core.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-631" data-t="631">You don't have to trust Loop dude Loop Junior.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-635">10:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-635" data-t="635">You don't have to relay spam.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-637" data-t="637">Run whatever node client serves you best.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-640" data-t="640">If you can keep the old compelled</span> <span class="cue" id="t-642" data-t="642">to justify your node choice to strangers on the Internet you've already lost the plot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-648" data-t="648">That's not what all of this is a dirty duke. The point of this whole thing is not for you to run the node that somebody on Twitter tells you to.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-658" data-t="658">And I'm done debating this shit.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-661">11:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-661" data-t="661">I am done getting framed or farmed for engagement. I am done wasting precious time that could be spent listening to Bitcoin podcasts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-671" data-t="671">And this is by my final statement on the note debate.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-675" data-t="675">If you catch me engaging again, I want you to call me out. Publicly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-679" data-t="679">shame me for breaking my pledge to disengage. Hold me accountable because I will appreciate it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-685" data-t="685">The too long don't read</span> <span class="cue" id="t-688" data-t="688">of all of this?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-690">11:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-690" data-t="690">Stop scaring the plebs to sell merch and raise money from Jack Dorsey.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-695" data-t="695">Just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-696" data-t="696">stop.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-697" data-t="697">Stop all this bullshit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-699" data-t="699">It's annoying. It sucks. You're pissing me off. And you're scaring the plugs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-704" data-t="704">End of statement.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-705">11:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-705" data-t="705">It's over. I'm done. Thank you.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-708">11:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-708" data-t="708">So you went on Plug Chain Radio and decided to do a a sermon. Is that what happened here?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-716">11:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-716" data-t="716">Yeah. Exactly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-717" data-t="717">I,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-718" data-t="718">I went on Plug Chain Radio and part of the thing I appreciate about Plug Chain Radio is the sermons.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-724" data-t="724">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-725" data-t="725">Bobby was not there. He couldn't find his house or something like that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-731" data-t="731">So we didn't get a good sermon.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-734">12:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-734" data-t="734">So I wrote my own.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-736">12:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-736" data-t="736">Well, I enjoyed it. Yeah. There there there is this problem with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-741" data-t="741">you can't really do a whole lot of thinking when you're afraid. Right.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-744">12:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-744" data-t="744">It is a very high time preference</span> <span class="cue" id="t-747" data-t="747">activity</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-748">12:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-748" data-t="748">to be afraid. Fear's fear's an important emotion.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-753" data-t="753">It it's an emotion that allows you to identify threats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-757" data-t="757">But I think fear also is weaponized. It's something they taught us in journalism schools, how to use fear to forward</span> <span class="cue" id="t-765" data-t="765">and promote whatever the CIA's agenda is. The CIA is really good at fear. Intelligence agencies are really good at it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-772" data-t="772">Trained journalists are really good at it. They're good at they're good at making the plabs,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-777" data-t="777">the uninitiated,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-778">12:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-778" data-t="778">the unintelligent,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-780" data-t="780">afraid,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-782" data-t="782">turn their brains off,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-784" data-t="784">and then react in a certain way. It happens over and over and over again.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-788" data-t="788">You're afraid of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-790" data-t="790">the Muslims, so you're gonna support the invasion of Iraq.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-794">13:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-794" data-t="794">You're afraid of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-797" data-t="797">whichever group, so you're gonna you're afraid of drug traffickers, so you're gonna support</span> <span class="cue" id="t-803" data-t="803">the feds bombing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-805" data-t="805">Venezuela. You're afraid of the truth, so you're gonna let the Pentagon throw journalists in jail</span> <span class="cue" id="t-812" data-t="812">for reporting on the news.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-814" data-t="814">You're afraid</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-815">13:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-815" data-t="815">of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-816" data-t="816">losing your nice things.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-818" data-t="818">So you're gonna let the pedophiles</span> <span class="cue" id="t-820" data-t="820">continue to run</span> <span class="cue" id="t-822" data-t="822">society.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-824">13:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-824" data-t="824">Exactly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-825" data-t="825">You</span> <span class="cue" id="t-826" data-t="826">have to ask yourself</span> <span class="cue" id="t-828" data-t="828">every time the government tells you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-831" data-t="831">what you should be afraid of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-833" data-t="833">every time the government tells you that you should be more afraid of Jimmy Kimmel</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-838">13:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-838" data-t="838">or you should be more afraid of Venezuelan fishing boats</span> <span class="cue" id="t-843" data-t="843">than the fact that the government is full of criminal pedophiles</span> <span class="cue" id="t-848" data-t="848">who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-849" data-t="849">are all enabling each other and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-852" data-t="852">have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-853" data-t="853">full control and power and authority over your life.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-857">14:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-857" data-t="857">If you think that that's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-858" data-t="858">less scary than Jimmy Kimmel,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-862" data-t="862">you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-863" data-t="863">it sounds silly on its face. Right? But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-866" data-t="866">unless they've got something scarier than what Epstein represents,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-872" data-t="872">it's it's a Siam. Absolutely.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-876">14:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-876" data-t="876">And claps are very susceptible</span> <span class="cue" id="t-878" data-t="878">to Siams.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-880" data-t="880">I think that's important. I think we all know that. So it's not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-885" data-t="885">it is not nice</span> <span class="cue" id="t-887" data-t="887">to bully plebs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-889" data-t="889">ARPNN for their it sucks enough to be a pleb.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-893">14:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-893" data-t="893">It's scary out there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-895" data-t="895">And you don't know what to do.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-898" data-t="898">And scaring them on purpose to sell them hardware wallets and nodes and all these things,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-905" data-t="905">it's just not very nice is all I'm gonna say.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-909" data-t="909">You should be helping the plebs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-911" data-t="911">whenever you you'll have to spend you don't have to spend all your time explaining</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-915">15:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-915" data-t="915">every little corner of Bitcoin, C plus plus</span> <span class="cue" id="t-919" data-t="919">to a pleb like Chris Guida just because he he asked too many questions. You don't have to spend all your time helping the plebs, but if you have the opportunity to scare them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-929" data-t="929">or to comfort them and it costs you the same amount of energy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-933" data-t="933">it's just not nice to scare them and sometimes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-938" data-t="938">people just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-940" data-t="940">they use scaring the plebs to their benefit, and it's just it's a bad act. That's what I mean by bad actor. I think we're all tired of talking. I'm not gonna make the commitment not to talk about it anymore,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-951">15:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-951" data-t="951">but I'm just not that interested in talking it. So I I appreciate,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-955" data-t="955">your desire to not get roped into it anymore. I've I've been focusing on things that matter more to me,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-961" data-t="961">personally.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-963" data-t="963">I've been having a good time. I've been enjoying life while while while people are walking around. They're they're afraid.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-970" data-t="970">I'm confused by it because I think, in a lot of ways, it's it's good time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-975" data-t="975">because</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-977">16:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-977" data-t="977">I think I've said this over and over again. It's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-980" data-t="980">I think one of the issues a lot of people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-983" data-t="983">are experiencing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-985" data-t="985">and what they've done is they spent a lot of time listening to kind of the the doomer narratives on Bitcoin podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-993" data-t="993">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-995" data-t="995">they</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-996">16:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-996" data-t="996">didn't take action because the the fear put them in a freeze situation.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1002" data-t="1002">They didn't adjust</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1003" data-t="1003">their behaviors. They didn't adjust their relationships. They didn't adjust their strategies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1010" data-t="1010">for the first fourth turning. So instead of doing the things that they needed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1015" data-t="1015">to be able to prepare for it, they,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1018" data-t="1018">just were stuck.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1020">17:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1020" data-t="1020">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1021" data-t="1021">they're smoking weed. They were angry at David Bailey. They were</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1026" data-t="1026">doing whatever</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1027" data-t="1027">that wasn't productive.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1030" data-t="1030">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1032" data-t="1032">I I think that's a that's a dangerous spot. I I haven't experienced that. I've been prepared</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1038">17:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1038" data-t="1038">parent. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1040" data-t="1040">Yeah. I encourage you guys. If if you're if you were like that, if you were just you've been so terrified, you haven't been able to prepare,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1049" data-t="1049">There there are some behaviors that need to change. Maybe you need to log off of social media, and you need to read Atlas Shrugged.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1057" data-t="1057">And you need to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1059" data-t="1059">be a grown up, and you need to, go buy a suit at a store and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1064" data-t="1064">turn in your gym shorts.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1066">17:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1066" data-t="1066">At least some of them. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1068">17:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1068" data-t="1068">There's, I think there's also, I think where I'm coming from is a sense of feeling guilt.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1075" data-t="1075">I feel guilty</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1077" data-t="1077">because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1080" data-t="1080">I took the time to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1083" data-t="1083">to send</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1084" data-t="1084">the foreturning</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1085">18:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1085" data-t="1085">card cover</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1086" data-t="1086">to a 100 different friends and family members.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1089" data-t="1089">I I sent them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1093" data-t="1093">countless,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1094" data-t="1094">Bitcoin podcasts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1097" data-t="1097">articles,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1098">18:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1098" data-t="1098">tweets,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1099" data-t="1099">Bitcoin magazine articles,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1102" data-t="1102">books</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1103" data-t="1103">to tell the and told them like the fourth turning is coming,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1108" data-t="1108">Hyper Bitcoinization</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1109" data-t="1109">is coming. It's a gradually then suddenly situation. You can't trust. You have to bear I've been warning them, and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1116">18:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1116" data-t="1116">so many people just didn't take the advice. They didn't listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast per week like I did, and I feel a sense of guilt that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1125" data-t="1125">they're not ready and, you know, I perfectly positioned myself for this fourth turning.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1132" data-t="1132">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1133" data-t="1133">you have to assuage yourself of that guilt I think, because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1137" data-t="1137">no matter how hard you tried to warrant to bill them, ultimately, they had to make that decision for themselves.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1144" data-t="1144">And just like you didn't</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1146">19:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1146" data-t="1146">find Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1147" data-t="1147">as early as you could have, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1150" data-t="1150">the best time to start listening to Bitcoin podcast for forty hours per week was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1156" data-t="1156">20, you know, fifteen years ago when Bitcoin came out.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1159" data-t="1159">But the second best time is today. And so as people realize, you know, that they were prepared, at least there is a lifeboat. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1169">19:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1169" data-t="1169">Well, last week was a pretty interesting week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1172" data-t="1172">I wasn't online as much as, I could have been. I was busy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1177" data-t="1177">Bitcoin podcasting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1178" data-t="1178">with Odell.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1180" data-t="1180">I was busy talking to people like Michael Goldstein and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1184" data-t="1184">Doctor. Adam Back.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1186">19:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1186" data-t="1186">What was it like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1187" data-t="1187">to be in the presence of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1192" data-t="1192">such experienced podcasters? Because even if the cameras aren't recording,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1196" data-t="1196">you know, it's still a very similar atmosphere to a Bitcoin podcast. Is that how you felt?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1202">20:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1202" data-t="1202">It was definitely a Bitcoin podcast in person.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1205" data-t="1205">I I was afraid to talk to doctor Anabag because I think I I thought I was gonna fall asleep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1211" data-t="1211">I thought I was gonna walk up, and I was just gonna fall asleep. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1215" data-t="1215">what actually happened,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1217" data-t="1217">I think having Michael Gold</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1219" data-t="1219">Michael Goldstein, he's kinda like walking cocaine.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1222">20:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1222" data-t="1222">His brain is just firing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1224" data-t="1224">on all cylinders. He he's all excited. He's high energy. He's talking quickly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1230" data-t="1230">The</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1231" data-t="1231">stuff he's saying is so profound.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1234" data-t="1234">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1235" data-t="1235">when back starts talking about relay policy, you know, Goldstein</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1241">20:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1241" data-t="1241">really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1243" data-t="1243">brings brings things back into being interesting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1247" data-t="1247">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1249" data-t="1249">talks about different topics. But, yeah, one of the things that Michael Goldstein was talking about, which I thought was really fascinating,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1256" data-t="1256">was this idea. It was called the Nirvana</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1259" data-t="1259">effect.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1262">21:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1262" data-t="1262">And the way that he described the Nirvana effect is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1265" data-t="1265">people getting frustrated and grumpy because things aren't perfect,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1272" data-t="1272">which I think a lot of this is something that has happened over and over in Bitcoin. I think Roger Ver</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1279" data-t="1279">is an early example of this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1282" data-t="1282">where he got Bitcoin derangement syndrome because it wasn't the perfect thing that he wanted. Right. And other people failed his purity test. The users of the network failed his purity test. So he had to fork off.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1297">21:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1297" data-t="1297">Same with Vlad, Costia.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1300" data-t="1300">You just got Bitcoin derangement syndrome because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1303" data-t="1303">it wasn't it didn't meet his purity test</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1307" data-t="1307">for how privacy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1309" data-t="1309">should work or how, you know, whatever it should work. And there's a lot of people that tend to do this. And I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1316" data-t="1316">we were discussing the Nirvana</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1318">21:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1318" data-t="1318">effect earlier, and we looked up the definition on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1322" data-t="1322">urban dictionary, and it talked about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1325" data-t="1325">the definition being, like, talking about something too much. It's like being too close</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1333" data-t="1333">to the signal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1334" data-t="1334">can kinda, like, make you lose perspective. They say, like, you fail to see the forest through the trees.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1341" data-t="1341">And we're talking, you're too close to the conversation.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1344">22:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1344" data-t="1344">You tend to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1346" data-t="1346">realize how imperfect</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1349" data-t="1349">or, you know, the story is not as optimistic as you thought or there's more problems than you realized</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1355" data-t="1355">there would be.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1357" data-t="1357">And it starts to make you get Bitcoin derangements and or more get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1360" data-t="1360">frustrated or grumpy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1364">22:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1364" data-t="1364">Is that kinda like is that kinda mesh with what,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1367" data-t="1367">you were thinking there?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1369">22:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1369" data-t="1369">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1371" data-t="1371">I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1372" data-t="1372">it's good to I was experiencing this on Noster, so I posted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1377" data-t="1377">a controversial Noster post. I don't know what to call it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1381" data-t="1381">When you do a post on Twitter, you call it tweets.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1385" data-t="1385">On Noster, I guess you call it post, but I think there needs to be a better</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1389">23:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1389" data-t="1389">Notes. Notes. Notes. They call it notes.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1393">23:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1393" data-t="1393">So I was noting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1395" data-t="1395">when I did my Noster post, I was noting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1399" data-t="1399">I don't like the sound of that. There needs to be a better</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1403" data-t="1403">term than noting. Notice, you should be noticing, not noting. I guess noticing is what you would be doing if you're reading Noster post, right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1413" data-t="1413">I don't know. We we gotta we gotta workshop this a little bit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1418" data-t="1418">We'll,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1419">23:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1419" data-t="1419">we'll put something up in the the bugle newsroom and and maybe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1422" data-t="1422">do a bounty.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1424" data-t="1424">This would be a good use for a lightning bounty right here. Come up with, the terminology of what it means to to post on Nostr. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1431" data-t="1431">anyways, I posted a controversial post on Nostr saying that the memes need to get better.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1437" data-t="1437">Because I was scrolling the Nostr timeline, and I couldn't believe how bad and cringy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1443" data-t="1443">the memes are.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1445">24:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1445" data-t="1445">And there's this constant issue.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1448" data-t="1448">You go to the party and you're talking to a guy, and the guy likes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1453" data-t="1453">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1454" data-t="1454">listen to himself talk and doesn't know how much everybody else hates him</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1459" data-t="1459">hates hearing him talk.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1463" data-t="1463">There's a lot of that going on in this ecosystem.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1466">24:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1466" data-t="1466">Absolutely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1467" data-t="1467">I think what's really important for people to understand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1471" data-t="1471">right now,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1474" data-t="1474">there there's been people that have been around for a while, and they've gotten tied to this identity of fighting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1481" data-t="1481">the culture,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1483" data-t="1483">fighting the system of being the underdogs.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1488">24:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1488" data-t="1488">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1489" data-t="1489">so, you know, I was talking with some people as again, Michael Goldstein. I I gotta say that guy, I I'm genuinely impressed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1498" data-t="1498">by him. It's very rare that I get super excited and impressed about somebody in Bitcoin, but that guy</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1505">25:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1505" data-t="1505">Well, I think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1507" data-t="1507">I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1508" data-t="1508">it's good to remember</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1510" data-t="1510">his personality of the unit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1512" data-t="1512">It seems like he's always</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1514" data-t="1514">doing coke, just excited and talking fast. And that's how you sound to your friends and family members when you're talking about Bitcoin, which especially when you first get orange billed,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1524">25:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1524" data-t="1524">you seem like you're on a stimulant and you're just talking so fast and you're so excited and so optimistic. And they notice that. And it's important to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1532" data-t="1532">hone</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1533" data-t="1533">your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1534" data-t="1534">ability to communicate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1536" data-t="1536">your optimism. And Goldstein does a great job of that. He continues to be excited and optimistic about things</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1542" data-t="1542">including Bitcoin,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1544">25:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1544" data-t="1544">in a coherent way. And I think it's very when you when you're around somebody who does that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1550" data-t="1550">it is contagious</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1551" data-t="1551">and it is exciting and it does it is, you know, it spreads your optimism. So try to be that presence instead of just rambling, you know, somebody at a party</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1561" data-t="1561">who's actually on cocaine,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1563" data-t="1563">and is rambling about incoherent business ideas.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1567">26:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1567" data-t="1567">Well, I mean, he was wearing a suit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1570" data-t="1570">and Doctor. Back wasn't.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1571" data-t="1571">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1574" data-t="1574">it's easy to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1576" data-t="1576">One thing that I've learned working in the media is never underestimated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1579" data-t="1579">you, first and foremost. But</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1584">26:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1584" data-t="1584">also never underestimate a guy in a suit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1587" data-t="1587">A Jew in a suit, you gotta take him seriously. And then when they're, a prolific Bitcoin podcaster,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1595" data-t="1595">True truly a pioneer in a lot of ways. So this is very, very impressive</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1600" data-t="1600">pioneer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1601" data-t="1601">I'm very impressed by this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1604" data-t="1604">You know, I've been impressed by him for a while following his work for a while, but, you know, having the first interaction in person was very important. And this is but this for me is the key takeaway</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1614">26:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1614" data-t="1614">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1616" data-t="1616">suit coiners are like Jews.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1619" data-t="1619">You don't have to like them, but never underestimate them. Mhmm.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1624">27:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1624" data-t="1624">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1625" data-t="1625">But we were we were talking about the libertarians,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1629" data-t="1629">and we're shitting on the libertarians.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1632" data-t="1632">And the libertarians</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1634" data-t="1634">largely have failed to understand the importance of Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1638" data-t="1638">And part of the reason is because Bitcoin is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1641">27:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1641" data-t="1641">a technology</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1642" data-t="1642">that could allow them to win for the first time ever.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1645" data-t="1645">And they've</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1648" data-t="1648">tied their identities to losing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1651" data-t="1651">over and over and over again.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1655" data-t="1655">They just want</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1657">27:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1657" data-t="1657">to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1659" data-t="1659">issue purity tasks and sit on the sidelines</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1661" data-t="1661">and lose.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1663" data-t="1663">That's where their identities are. They just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1667" data-t="1667">And I think a lot of the Bitcoin ecosystem is like that too,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1672" data-t="1672">where they've tied their identities to being</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1675">27:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1675" data-t="1675">the outcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1678" data-t="1678">They don't understand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1682" data-t="1682">that Bitcoin is one,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1684" data-t="1684">that it is a culturally relevant topic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1689" data-t="1689">that, in many ways, is going main stream. The the MPCs, the plabs are are starting to come in. They're starting to get interested in it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1697" data-t="1697">They have their retarded opinions. They're gonna have their retarded opinions. You can't change</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1701">28:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1701" data-t="1701">retards.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1702" data-t="1702">They're gonna be retarded.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1704" data-t="1704">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1708" data-t="1708">things are changing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1709" data-t="1709">pretty</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1710" data-t="1710">dramatically,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1711">28:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1711" data-t="1711">and it's time to to grow up. Like, if if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1714" data-t="1714">what I would suggest</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1716" data-t="1716">for I I wanna suggest people to liquidate their Bitcoin positions like that ocean guy, Jason, or whatever his name was. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1724" data-t="1724">if you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1725" data-t="1725">want to be a loser</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1727" data-t="1727">and that's where you want your identity to be,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1730">28:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1730" data-t="1730">go hang out with the libertarians,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1733" data-t="1733">because the Bitcoin ecosystem is not full of a bunch of losers anymore. It's full of a bunch of winners, it's full of a bunch of pioneers, it's full of a bunch of people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1742" data-t="1742">that have radically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1743" data-t="1743">changed the world. And I think it's really important to have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1747" data-t="1747">at least an ounce of self respect when you look at yourself</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1751" data-t="1751">and you've interacted in this community to know that you're actually kind of cool</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1755">29:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1755" data-t="1755">and kind of the shit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1757" data-t="1757">for having being a part of this, that the Bitcoin podcasters,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1762" data-t="1762">like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1763" data-t="1763">there's something that has bothered me a lot is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1767" data-t="1767">you know, Bitcoiners is, like, groveled</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1769" data-t="1769">at Joe Rogan's feet. Like, have a Bitcoiner on, have a Bitcoiner on. Fuck Joe Rogan.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1777">29:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1777" data-t="1777">Where we're going, Joe Rogan's gonna be begging to come on our podcast.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1782">29:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1782" data-t="1782">Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1783">29:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1783" data-t="1783">But we don't need to we don't we don't need to give a shit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1787" data-t="1787">about this bald old man</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1789" data-t="1789">who is a horrible comedian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1792" data-t="1792">and is very unintelligent. If he if he the dude has never listened to a Bitcoin podcast. Why the fuck would you give a shit about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1800" data-t="1800">a guy's platform or opinion</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1803" data-t="1803">that has never listened to a Bitcoin podcast? Sure. He's got</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1806">30:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1806" data-t="1806">a lot of subscribers. He's done a lot of cool things, but you don't have to give a shit about it. I mean, it's it's there's something culturally relevant here, and I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1816" data-t="1816">it's important for individuals to have higher standards for themselves.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1823">30:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1823" data-t="1823">Well, screw you, Rogan.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1826" data-t="1826">It the question is, do you want</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1829" data-t="1829">to pass Ron Paul's purity test?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1832" data-t="1832">Or do you want to win?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1834" data-t="1834">Because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1836" data-t="1836">I mean,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1838">30:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1838" data-t="1838">you talked about, like, libertarians are addicted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1841" data-t="1841">to losing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1842" data-t="1842">They're addicted to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1844" data-t="1844">they know they have nothing to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1847" data-t="1847">to offer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1848" data-t="1848">They would they just wanna feel morally superior because they pass enough purity tests.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1854">30:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1854" data-t="1854">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1855" data-t="1855">we've already discussed time and time again on this show that the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1859" data-t="1859">effort of trying to pass all the purity test is a losing effort. We are all,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1865" data-t="1865">purity test failures,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1868" data-t="1868">and we're born that way. So do you wanna win or do you wanna pass purity test? Because you can't do both. And just because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1876" data-t="1876">an unfunny podcaster,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1879">31:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1879" data-t="1879">unfunny comedian gets fired from the tonight show,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1883" data-t="1883">that doesn't mean you have to halt</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1886" data-t="1886">your efforts to try to pass a purity test. You don't and don't let people use purity tests</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1892" data-t="1892">to try to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1893" data-t="1893">dissuade you from building if you're proud of what you're doing and you want to win and you're and you're playing to win. Don't let somebody who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1902" data-t="1902">doesn't listen to forty hours of podcast Bitcoin podcasts</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1906">31:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1906" data-t="1906">per week and who hasn't been listening</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1909" data-t="1909">to forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1912" data-t="1912">per week,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1914" data-t="1914">tell you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1916" data-t="1916">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1917" data-t="1917">you can't do what you're doing or that you</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1921">32:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1921" data-t="1921">shouldn't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1922" data-t="1922">you shouldn't have a chance to win,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1926" data-t="1926">based on, you know, some purity test you fail.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1928">32:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1928" data-t="1928">Their opinion doesn't matter. I think it's time for self respect.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1932" data-t="1932">That's what the suit is. The suit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1934" data-t="1934">is a sign of self respect. There's a lot of people that are really resistant to the suit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1939" data-t="1939">There was a time in American history where where men almost universally wore suits.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1946" data-t="1946">There was a time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1949" data-t="1949">in American history where men looked at themselves in the mirror and they had self respect. There was a time when women had self respect. And I think we need to</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1956">32:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1956" data-t="1956">that that's what I wanna go back to. That's what I want</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1961" data-t="1961">to experience in my life.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1964" data-t="1964">And it is what I experienced in my life, is I have self respect. That's why I do the things that I do. That's why I'm a Bitcoin podcaster. That's why</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1972" data-t="1972">I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1974" data-t="1974">don't waste my time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1976" data-t="1976">getting sucked into stupid arguments</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1979">32:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1979" data-t="1979">constantly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1980" data-t="1980">about nonsense. That's why I don't live in fear</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1983" data-t="1983">being terrorized by these</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1986" data-t="1986">very silly ideas.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1988" data-t="1988">And I actually, you know, slow down and ask questions because I have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1993" data-t="1993">fucking self respect.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1995">33:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1995" data-t="1995">Guys,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1997" data-t="1997">you're not a plumb anymore.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1999" data-t="1999">If you're if you are a plumb</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2002" data-t="2002">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2003" data-t="2003">you're stuck trying to hold on to this, you're gonna have a bad time. You're not gonna do well.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2009" data-t="2009">You want to hold on to the you wanna listen to Plebslop,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2013">33:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2013" data-t="2013">the Plebslop podcast?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2014" data-t="2014">You wanna listen to macro gibberish</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2016" data-t="2016">that confirms that you're right, but it doesn't make sense.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2021" data-t="2021">That's what you want to do with your time.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2025">33:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2025" data-t="2025">Yeah. The</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2026" data-t="2026">you talk about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2027" data-t="2027">there was a time where everybody wore suits and we got away from that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2032" data-t="2032">If you look at the correlation, it started around 1971,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2037" data-t="2037">with technology,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2038" data-t="2038">computers,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2039">33:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2039" data-t="2039">the acceleration that we think of today coming with AI were really began</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2044" data-t="2044">in the technology</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2045" data-t="2045">information age.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2047" data-t="2047">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2048" data-t="2048">people were so, you know, computer programmers, tech guys, they were so smart and they were like so ahead of the time, ahead of the curve that they didn't have to wear seats to work anymore. They were so rare that they were so early and so technically proficient</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2063" data-t="2063">and had so much foresight that they could look like, you know, they could wear a t shirt and sweatpants to work and they could, they didn't have to comb their hair or wear deodorant.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2073">34:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2073" data-t="2073">And there was a pond like that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2075" data-t="2075">where it was enough</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2077" data-t="2077">to have a, you know, look like a sloppy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2079" data-t="2079">wizard in cargo shorts with a Bitcoin t shirt on because you were so early to Bitcoin that you didn't have to wear a suit. You didn't even have that self respect.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2088" data-t="2088">You just,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2090" data-t="2090">people still had to respect you.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2093">34:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2093" data-t="2093">We're not in that point anymore with Bitcoin. We're not that early. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2098" data-t="2098">wearing a suit is now. It's like, okay, you own Bitcoin. Well, great. Congratulations.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2103" data-t="2103">Everybody owns Bitcoin at this point.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2105" data-t="2105">But do you actually have self respect?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2107" data-t="2107">Do you not have the skill and the talent to run your own node</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2113" data-t="2113">and manage your own self custody?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2115">35:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2115" data-t="2115">But do you still have the self respect</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2117" data-t="2117">of that a Bitcoiner</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2121" data-t="2121">should at least exude</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2123" data-t="2123">that self pride that you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2126" data-t="2126">listen to podcast? Well, that's that's how you represent that with a suit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2131" data-t="2131">I don't take self custody, but I'm still</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2133">35:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2133" data-t="2133">I still have self respect. Oh, yeah. Well,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2137">35:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2137" data-t="2137">there's a lot of stuff going on in the world this week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2141" data-t="2141">So one of one of the things I'm really wondering, I I mentioned it to Odell. I asked him on the interview was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2148" data-t="2148">what do YouTube thumbnails look like in in peak clown world?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2152" data-t="2152">I think this is an interesting idea to speculate</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2155">35:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2155" data-t="2155">on. You have to wear you have to wear clown makeup to succeed in clown world.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2161" data-t="2161">Is that the question?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2162" data-t="2162">Does Marty Bent have to wear clown makeup</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2166" data-t="2166">to succeed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2169" data-t="2169">as a podcaster in this clown world?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2172">36:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2172" data-t="2172">I think it's something that we have to track. I mean, I I do think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2177" data-t="2177">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2180" data-t="2180">reasonable. Maybe that's where you know, I was speculating that these guys start turning themselves into AI women in bikinis,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2188" data-t="2188">thong bikinis, but maybe it is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2191" data-t="2191">they get to the point where they</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2194">36:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2194" data-t="2194">have to wear clown makeup in their YouTube channel. Maybe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2198" data-t="2198">the choice is we either put on a suit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2202" data-t="2202">or you post open</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2204" data-t="2204">mouth thumbnails, because those are the only two ways</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2207" data-t="2207">to identify on YouTube that are, you know, on the timeline anymore. I would like to ask, the Simply Bitcoin guys what they think. Not everybody who wears clown making, what do they say? What's the old,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2219" data-t="2219">it's a cliche</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2220">37:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2220" data-t="2220">about clowns</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2221" data-t="2221">is that they're usually sad,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2223" data-t="2223">a sad clown</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2225" data-t="2225">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2226" data-t="2226">I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2227" data-t="2227">if you think of it through that lens it's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2231">37:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2231" data-t="2231">especially if you know, right? There's a lot of people who post open mouth thumbnails</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2235" data-t="2235">who are not proud to open</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2238" data-t="2238">map thumbnails.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2239" data-t="2239">They are,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2241" data-t="2241">you know, their response is like a man's gotta eat, gotta make money, gotta compete</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2246" data-t="2246">on the timeline and the algorithm.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2248">37:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2248" data-t="2248">And that's how it works, you know, open mouth thumbnails and but they're not happy about it. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2253" data-t="2253">a lot of those open mouth thumbnails,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2256" data-t="2256">if you really think of them as a big frown,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2258">37:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2258" data-t="2258">they're sad. It's something that we have to track for sure.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2263" data-t="2263">Folks, if you put your face on the Internet, it might be used for an open mouth thumbnail whether you have your mouth open or not because you can edit it with AI now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2273">37:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2273" data-t="2273">Fun fact. Well, what do you You know, it's like Scottie Pippen, somebody could take your whole</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2278" data-t="2278">your whole brand, your whole persona,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2280" data-t="2280">your whole platform,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2282" data-t="2282">and turned it into an open mouth thumbnail platform on their own, you know, account</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2288" data-t="2288">and be more popular than you. They could take over. They could just turn you into a clown and control your entire reputation.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2295" data-t="2295">Some people make it easy to do that like David Dennis Porter. Excuse me.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2300">38:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2300" data-t="2300">He doesn't mind being a clown.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2303">38:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2303" data-t="2303">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2304" data-t="2304">I think it was the week prior,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2306" data-t="2306">Jimmy Kimmel</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2308" data-t="2308">got fired.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2310" data-t="2310">No. It was it was, like, five days ago, four days ago. Okay. So it was this last week. So so there was a fake attack on journalism, and there was a real attack on journalism</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2320" data-t="2320">that happened this week.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2322">38:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2322" data-t="2322">And people got upset about the fake attack, and they don't seem too particularly upset about the real attack,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2330" data-t="2330">which is not surprising.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2333" data-t="2333">You shouldn't be surprised here.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2335" data-t="2335">But, the the fake attack was Jimmy Kimmel getting fired,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2340" data-t="2340">for cause. You know, when somebody sucks, when an employee sucks</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2346" data-t="2346">and they are paid enough money to afford expensive Jewish lawyers, it's it's tricky to fire them. Right?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2354">39:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2354" data-t="2354">It can be tricky to fire them because the expensive Jewish lawyers might</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2358" data-t="2358">sue the organization.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2361" data-t="2361">So what they did is they you know, Jimmy Kimmel has been saying absolutely retarded shit for years.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2368" data-t="2368">Nothing new there. Saying off color, stupid nonsense.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2373" data-t="2373">But they they got him for one. He said something about Charlie Kirk and, you know, got canceled for it. And they whipped up a mob</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2380" data-t="2380">of angry clubs.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2382">39:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2382" data-t="2382">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2384" data-t="2384">they use that as an excuse to fire him because his ratings sucked. He just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2389" data-t="2389">People weren't excited to listen to his nonsensical</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2393" data-t="2393">liberal plebslaw.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2396" data-t="2396">But the real attack on journalism, folks, is that the Pentagon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2401" data-t="2401">is,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2403">40:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2403" data-t="2403">threatening journalists reporting on the things that they're doing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2407" data-t="2407">right now. Pentagon saying that journalists can't report</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2411" data-t="2411">on stuff that they're doing for national security risks. Once we've seen this before,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2417">40:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2417" data-t="2417">this is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2419" data-t="2419">we've talked about this over and over. You have Podcom</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2422" data-t="2422">approved podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2424" data-t="2424">and non Podcom</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2425" data-t="2425">approved podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2427" data-t="2427">Just change a few letters.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2430">40:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2430" data-t="2430">One word. If Pentagon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2432" data-t="2432">approved podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2434" data-t="2434">and non Pentagon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2435" data-t="2435">approved podcasts. That's the new future, right? That's what they're trying to set up.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2440" data-t="2440">Which podcast is Pentagon approved? Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2443" data-t="2443">it might not be</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2445">40:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2445" data-t="2445">as obvious</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2446" data-t="2446">as, the podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2449" data-t="2449">with a big stamp and a label on it, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2452" data-t="2452">it'll have the same,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2454" data-t="2454">it'll have the same feeling.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2457" data-t="2457">You know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2458">40:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2458" data-t="2458">the Pentagon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2460" data-t="2460">podcast, the journalists</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2462" data-t="2462">who satisfy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2463" data-t="2463">the Pentagon's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2464" data-t="2464">security tests,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2467" data-t="2467">they'll just blatantly not state obvious things even though they're obvious. Like, Lynn Alden is hot.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2473">41:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2473" data-t="2473">A PodConf approved podcast won't say it. Nobody knows why. There's been no official</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2480" data-t="2480">documentation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2481" data-t="2481">on whether or not it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2483" data-t="2483">allowed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2484" data-t="2484">to acknowledge that Lynn Alden is hot on this podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2488" data-t="2488">But</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2489">41:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2489" data-t="2489">it just, you know, it just won't be discussed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2492" data-t="2492">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2493" data-t="2493">I have a feeling that's going to be how this works.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2497" data-t="2497">Some journalists will be able to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2499" data-t="2499">say obvious things that seem completely unoffensive</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2503" data-t="2503">unless</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2504">41:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2504" data-t="2504">for some reason everybody else won't say it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2508">41:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2508" data-t="2508">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2510" data-t="2510">So this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2512" data-t="2512">reporter at Bloomberg put this article out that disclosed TV is circulated. It says the Pentagon limits journalists access to military information.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2522" data-t="2522">The guy who wrote the article, he's got some stupid Polish name with a bunch of Cs and Zs in it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2527" data-t="2527">Tony Zukse.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2532" data-t="2532">So apparently,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2533">42:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2533" data-t="2533">the Pentagon is requesting or threatening journalists saying that they can only</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2538" data-t="2538">report on preapproved</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2541" data-t="2541">information,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2542" data-t="2542">so even if it's declassified. So they're saying journalists cannot report on even declassified</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2556" data-t="2556">has</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2559" data-t="2559">that has committed countless war crimes, invaded countries</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2566">42:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2566" data-t="2566">based on lies that the New York Times and other organizations have propagated, is now telling journalists</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2572" data-t="2572">that they cannot report on things that are declassified</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2576" data-t="2576">and they have to go off of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2578" data-t="2578">a pre approved list. I mean, they're really taking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2583" data-t="2583">that PodConf approach.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2587" data-t="2587">And people are upset about Jimmy Kimmel getting fired right now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2592">43:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2592" data-t="2592">Folks,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2593" data-t="2593">this is what</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2595" data-t="2595">they are saying with this policy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2598" data-t="2598">and this is what it boils down to.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2601" data-t="2601">If you're a journalist,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2603" data-t="2603">you can't repeat</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2604">43:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2604" data-t="2604">the things you hear on podcasts. They don't want journalists to report what they hear,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2610" data-t="2610">talked about, discussed, or information</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2613" data-t="2613">that is broken</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2614" data-t="2614">by podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2615" data-t="2615">It has to go through the Pentagon's filter first. If the Pentagon doesn't approve</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2621" data-t="2621">what you hear, what the journalist hears on a podcast,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2625">43:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2625" data-t="2625">it can't report on it. You can't, it can't be written about. It's why you have to listen</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2631" data-t="2631">to Bitcoin podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2633" data-t="2633">because the journalist</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2634" data-t="2634">will no longer be allowed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2637" data-t="2637">to cover what they hear</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2639" data-t="2639">on a podcast</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2641">44:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2641" data-t="2641">until it's approved by the Pentagon. So you have to listen to podcasts yourself. You cannot trust</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2647" data-t="2647">honestly, this makes it so you cannot even trust anybody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2651" data-t="2651">to tell you what they heard on a podcast because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2654" data-t="2654">by doing so, they could be late. I mean, they could call you a journalist.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2660">44:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2660" data-t="2660">I would argue that podcasters are journalists in a lot of ways. Some better than others, some uncredentialed, some noncredentialed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2667" data-t="2667">Joe Nakamoto doesn't have his credentials, obviously.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2670" data-t="2670">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2673" data-t="2673">yeah,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2674" data-t="2674">these are the danger this is a problem with purity tests. A lot of times is, the peer people get emotional about purity tests, and they'll get more emotional</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2684" data-t="2684">over, you know, very silly purity tests like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2687">44:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2687" data-t="2687">you know, whatever David Bailey is working on, whatever sort of financial nonsense he's doing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2692" data-t="2692">They'll be mad at David, and they'll they'll</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2696" data-t="2696">miss the entire point of what's going on.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2699" data-t="2699">They don't have enough emotional energy left to even think about something like this. They'll rate a plotter tweet,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2705" data-t="2705">they'll start</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2707" data-t="2707">spiraling into circles. They'll be so upset.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2710">45:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2710" data-t="2710">I can't believe that this person did this. And then,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2715" data-t="2715">like, we're we're at the precipice of something dangerous right now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2718" data-t="2718">on a lot of different fronts. So, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2722" data-t="2722">people got excited about Trump. He said, play with your Bitcoins at the Bitcoin conference. He said, no new wars.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2729" data-t="2729">Now he's threatening Afghanistan.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2731" data-t="2731">He wants to go back into Afghanistan.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2733">45:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2733" data-t="2733">He's talking about invading Venezuela.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2735" data-t="2735">Things are he he promised to end the Ukraine war. That seems to only be escalating.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2742" data-t="2742">Who knows what's going on over there?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2745" data-t="2745">And people are mad about shit coins</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2748" data-t="2748">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2749" data-t="2749">Taproot Wizards.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2752">45:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2752" data-t="2752">Fees are at all time lows.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2755" data-t="2755">Blocks are near empty.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2757" data-t="2757">Mining pools are going to subset,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2759" data-t="2759">one set,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2760" data-t="2760">a vByte transaction fees. Where are people's priorities right now? Holy fucking shit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2767" data-t="2767">Like, they're more willing to get upset</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2771">46:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2771" data-t="2771">about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2773" data-t="2773">shitcoins</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2775" data-t="2775">than a potential</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2778" data-t="2778">global war escalating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2781" data-t="2781">their either their kids or or them, if they're young enough, getting drafted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2787" data-t="2787">to go get slaughtered by drones,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2790">46:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2790" data-t="2790">suicide drones. The Epstein client list running</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2794" data-t="2794">rampant. A guy that should be running a seven Eleven, running the FBI,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2799" data-t="2799">telling a Christian man that he'd see him in Valhalla,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2804" data-t="2804">saying that Epstein didn't kill himself</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2806" data-t="2806">after going on podcast and saying that he did.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2811" data-t="2811">There's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2812">46:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2812" data-t="2812">some things to be frustrated about and angry about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2816" data-t="2816">right now,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2822" data-t="2822">And instead of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2825" data-t="2825">I guess</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2826" data-t="2826">I was talking about this recently on my music show, is just people's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2830" data-t="2830">compasses</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2832">47:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2832" data-t="2832">are mal calibrated.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2836" data-t="2836">Their sense of direction is completely upside down right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2840" data-t="2840">The institution of journalism is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2843" data-t="2843">it's important.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2846" data-t="2846">This is why podcasting is important, because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2849" data-t="2849">much of the institution of journalism has been co opted, we know this.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2853">47:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2853" data-t="2853">We know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2855" data-t="2855">that a lot of journalists</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2857" data-t="2857">have zero self respect.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2859" data-t="2859">This is why the bugle's important, because we have self respect.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2864" data-t="2864">Many journalists have very little self respect. You look at Pete Rizzo right now,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2868" data-t="2868">you know that he doesn't have any self respect. You look at his clickbait tweets</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2873">47:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2873" data-t="2873">that he puts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2876" data-t="2876">out. He doesn't have any respect for his readers, too. I think this is part of the clickbait stuff.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2882" data-t="2882">If you're putting out clickbait, you don't have respect for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2885" data-t="2885">the people watching your content.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2888" data-t="2888">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2890" data-t="2890">it's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2892">48:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2892" data-t="2892">important</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2895" data-t="2895">to slow down and to think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2897" data-t="2897">a little bit about what you're seeing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2899" data-t="2899">what</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2911" data-t="2911">disseminate information</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2913" data-t="2913">that is accurate,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2916">48:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2916" data-t="2916">to question information that is inaccurate.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2921" data-t="2921">Because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2922" data-t="2922">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2923" data-t="2923">if the Pentagon gets away with this, like, the next thing you know, we're gonna be like The UK where people are being arrested for posting memes.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2930">48:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2930" data-t="2930">The</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2932" data-t="2932">the ultimate takeaway for me is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2935" data-t="2935">it's very obvious and it's been obvious and I for years now, and I don't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2941" data-t="2941">part of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2943" data-t="2943">my journalism is an attempt to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2946" data-t="2946">communicate this message which</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2950">49:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2950" data-t="2950">is the media, journalists,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2952" data-t="2952">politicians,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2954" data-t="2954">everybody,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2955" data-t="2955">brands, companies, corporations,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2957" data-t="2957">they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2958" data-t="2958">the content they put out,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2960">49:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2960" data-t="2960">what</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2961" data-t="2961">they don't respect you. They don't respect their audience.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2965" data-t="2965">They don't respect you. And you should. And if you start to come across to anybody, whether it's a company, an organization, or an individual,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2973" data-t="2973">who doesn't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2975" data-t="2975">communicate with you in a way that demonstrates that they respect you, like that they have any respect for you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2981" data-t="2981">you know, you don't have to pay attention to them anymore.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2985">49:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2985" data-t="2985">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2987" data-t="2987">this is part of the problem, which is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2991" data-t="2991">as long as we're all spamming each other's notes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2994" data-t="2994">we're not focusing on what the real issue is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2998" data-t="2998">We're just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2999" data-t="2999">trying to troll each other and figure out different ways</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3003">50:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3003" data-t="3003">to prove that no matter how many filters you put in front of you, we can still span your note.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3009" data-t="3009">And at the end of the day,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3012" data-t="3012">we need to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3014" data-t="3014">coming together. This is like why we need to stop doing this. It's it's not if you're a core person or a Nazi, both Republican or a Democrat. This message is not,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3023" data-t="3023">should not be resonating with only your side. It it's everybody needs to hear this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3029" data-t="3029">We need to come together</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3031">50:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3031" data-t="3031">and and focus our energy on we need to spam Palantir,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3035" data-t="3035">not each other's notes. Spam Palantir.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3038" data-t="3038">Spam the Pentagon.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3040" data-t="3040">Spam the pedophiles.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3042" data-t="3042">Don't spam my note.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3043" data-t="3043">And I think if we if we</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3045">50:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3045" data-t="3045">come to this consensus,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3049" data-t="3049">we won't have to have this argument about mental policy anymore. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3054">50:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3054" data-t="3054">I don't I don't love like the idea of like coming together because I think a diversity of opinions is good because it means that people are thinking for themselves. Like, I don't think there needs to be any unity.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3065" data-t="3065">So to say, like, you should if you don't like Shinobi, I don't I don't think you should start liking him</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3071" data-t="3071">necessarily</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3073" data-t="3073">or, you know, mechanic or or whoever it is that you're grumpy at. But it's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3078" data-t="3078">I think it's vital to to choose where you direct</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3081" data-t="3081">your energy</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3083">51:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3083" data-t="3083">and to not get caught up in distractions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3086" data-t="3086">of things that don't matter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3089" data-t="3089">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3092" data-t="3092">to focus on what the what the problem is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3096" data-t="3096">you know, if if if the Pentagon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3098" data-t="3098">gets away with this and they they start to regulate what journalists can</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3103">51:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3103" data-t="3103">and can't report on, the next thing you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3106" data-t="3106">mining pools are gonna start censoring transactions.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3109" data-t="3109">And they say, hey, you cannot</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3112" data-t="3112">or or,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3114" data-t="3114">you know, other platforms will start censoring transactions, and they say, hey. You can't send this podcaster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3120" data-t="3120">Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3123">52:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3123" data-t="3123">That's the that's the problem with where we're at and the direction that we're heading at.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3127" data-t="3127">And so I don't I don't think like, you you can find</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3131" data-t="3131">unlikable people allies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3134" data-t="3134">in a lot of ways. Like, there's you might you don't have to like them, but there's gonna be people out there that are are much more on your side than,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3143" data-t="3143">than other people for sure.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3145">52:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3145" data-t="3145">It</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3146" data-t="3146">at the end of the day,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3150" data-t="3150">spam in other people's nodes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3154" data-t="3154">means you're spamming yourself.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3156" data-t="3156">If you run a node and you wanna spam</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3158" data-t="3158">Matthew Crowder's node, well, you have the trade off is that you have to spam your own node because that's how</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3165">52:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3165" data-t="3165">Bitcoin works.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3166" data-t="3166">And that's how society works, and that's how life works. If you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3170" data-t="3170">want to spam Shinobi,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3172" data-t="3172">if Shinobi wants to spam you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3175" data-t="3175">they're ultimately spamming themselves because there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3178" data-t="3178">there is a</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3179">52:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3179" data-t="3179">constraint</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3180" data-t="3180">on the amount of resources</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3183" data-t="3183">and energy and time that any of us have any given ten minutes of our lives.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3190" data-t="3190">And if we wanna spam each other, we're ultimately spanning ourselves. So just broadcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3195" data-t="3195">what you think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3196" data-t="3196">is best for you and most beneficial to you and stop.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3200">53:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3200" data-t="3200">Even even when it's cheap, even when it's easy, even when the fees are low,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3204" data-t="3204">it's just not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3206" data-t="3206">is the ask is it really worth</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3210" data-t="3210">spamming and trolling your opponents</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3213" data-t="3213">when it, at the end of the day,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3216">53:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3216" data-t="3216">they're also spamming your own time and yourself. Yeah. I think people are way too hyper focused on,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3222" data-t="3222">or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3224" data-t="3224">there's some people, this isn't everybody. And I think this is the hard part of where we're at right now is actually gauging sentiment.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3232" data-t="3232">People are going on Twitter, they're trying to gauge what the sentiment is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3237" data-t="3237">It's not really a good platform to be able to do that, because you don't know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3243" data-t="3243">who you're interacting with.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3246">54:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3246" data-t="3246">The government does,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3248" data-t="3248">the NSA does.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3250" data-t="3250">But you you you don't have the power. You don't have access to Palantir.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3254" data-t="3254">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3256" data-t="3256">it's people people's brains are being spammed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3259" data-t="3259">And I think that's that's more dangerous than your note getting spammed.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3263">54:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3263" data-t="3263">Your brain getting spammed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3265" data-t="3265">And so finding ways to, to filter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3269" data-t="3269">the spam</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3271" data-t="3271">in your brain</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3273">54:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3273" data-t="3273">is important. You're not relay, you're not relaying it up. Don't, don't bog down</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3277" data-t="3277">your mom, your dad, your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3280" data-t="3280">coworkers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3281" data-t="3281">your grandma,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3282" data-t="3282">your neighbor, don't bog down</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3285" data-t="3285">their resources,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3287">54:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3287" data-t="3287">their mental faculties</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3289" data-t="3289">with other people's spam. Like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3292" data-t="3292">you don't have to share everything just because it pissed you off. Just because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3297" data-t="3297">Shinobi called you retarded doesn't mean you have to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3300" data-t="3300">to board and relay that information to everybody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3303" data-t="3303">around you.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3306">55:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3306" data-t="3306">Absolutely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3308" data-t="3308">Yeah. Be careful about what you're relaying.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3311" data-t="3311">But, yeah, I guess</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3313" data-t="3313">it's it's been kind of a heavy podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3317" data-t="3317">and I think the last one was a little bit heavy too.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3321" data-t="3321">I think it's important to remember that there's good things happening right now</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3325">55:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3325" data-t="3325">to highlight those good things</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3328" data-t="3328">that are happening.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3332" data-t="3332">Folks,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3333" data-t="3333">we're entering</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3334" data-t="3334">in the golden age of Bitcoin podcast. We are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3339" data-t="3339">in many ways entering in the golden age of Bitcoin. Smell the roses. Take time to smell the roses. Take time</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3346">55:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3346" data-t="3346">to enjoy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3348" data-t="3348">the people around you. Take time to enjoy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3352" data-t="3352">posting good memes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3355" data-t="3355">People got grumpy with me for saying that the memes on the Oster suck.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3360" data-t="3360">Not all of them suck.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3363" data-t="3363">I don't know who it was, but somebody pointed it out to me to go find Korn DeLorean</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3368">56:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3368" data-t="3368">on Oster.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3370" data-t="3370">And I was very impressed with Korn Korn DeLorean's memes. Those are some good memes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3376" data-t="3376">This is the problem with letting your brains get spammed, is you miss all the good stuff that's out there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3382" data-t="3382">There's a lot of good stuff. The the noise overtakes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3386" data-t="3386">the signal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3388" data-t="3388">The signal, it's not that the signal doesn't exist.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3392">56:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3392" data-t="3392">It's that it's being</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3394" data-t="3394">drowned</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3395" data-t="3395">in the noise.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3397" data-t="3397">And so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3399" data-t="3399">we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3400" data-t="3400">need to operate</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3402">56:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3402" data-t="3402">with a</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3402">much tighter relay policy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3406" data-t="3406">for your brains. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3409" data-t="3409">unfortunately, social media is difficult, makes it difficult to do so because it's just filled with spam. It's filled with pep slop. It's filled with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3417" data-t="3417">nonsense. That's part of the reason why it's nice to to hang out with people in person.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3422" data-t="3422">Shake your favorite podcaster's hand.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3426">57:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3426" data-t="3426">Smoke cigarettes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3427" data-t="3427">together.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3429" data-t="3429">Talk about things other than</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3432" data-t="3432">the same stuff that you talk over and over and over again. Talk about interesting things happening in the world. Talk about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3438" data-t="3438">music. Talk about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3441" data-t="3441">books.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3442">57:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3442" data-t="3442">I've been reading a really good book,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3444" data-t="3444">this week. I really, really like it. So, you know, JK Rowling has a, another pen name,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3452" data-t="3452">Robert Galbraith.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3453" data-t="3453">Do you know this, Rod? So she wrote this series,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3458" data-t="3458">about a private detective</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3460" data-t="3460">that I really like. The the book is titled The Hallmarked Man,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3464">57:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3464" data-t="3464">And it's like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3465" data-t="3465">the seventh book in the series or something like that. There's a bunch of them, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3469" data-t="3469">fuck, is it a good book?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3472" data-t="3472">It's a compelling story</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3474" data-t="3474">and there's tons of shit like that that you could be doing.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3477">57:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3477" data-t="3477">My,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3478" data-t="3478">my, my whole perspective on it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3481" data-t="3481">is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3483" data-t="3483">you're right. Everything you're saying is right. My, but it is refreshing to be around people who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3488" data-t="3488">understand the gravity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3492" data-t="3492">of the situation.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3494">58:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3494" data-t="3494">You know, the past two episodes you said have been heavy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3497" data-t="3497">People who understand the weight of the world we live in right now and are still</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3503" data-t="3503">gleeful.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3504" data-t="3504">Because I think that is the message because it is heavy. It is serious.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3509" data-t="3509">It sometimes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3510" data-t="3510">is scary and the user experience</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3513">58:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3513" data-t="3513">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3515" data-t="3515">very terrible in many situations,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3517" data-t="3517">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3518" data-t="3518">we're not grumpy. We're so gleeful. And the people who are grumpy right now, and all they want to talk about is the weight of the world.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3526" data-t="3526">That's not an optimistic story.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3528" data-t="3528">Being gleeful despite, you know, that's like the book of Job.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3532">58:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3532" data-t="3532">Job in the Bible, right? Like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3534" data-t="3534">his entire,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3536" data-t="3536">he had a million reasons to be grumpy, but he refused. He refused to be grumpy and he chose to be gleeful.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3543" data-t="3543">And that's an inspirational story to me. It tells you that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3548" data-t="3548">there's always a reason to be gleeful,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3552">59:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3552" data-t="3552">always a reason to be bullish. That's an interesting take. I've always</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3555" data-t="3555">I I thought the book of Job I get a different take from the book of Job that God's kind of a prick,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3560" data-t="3560">but,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3562">59:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3562" data-t="3562">God is kind of a prick. I don't think there's I don't think there's anything</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3566" data-t="3566">I don't think there's anything wrong with admitting that God is a prick.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3570" data-t="3570">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3572" data-t="3572">just because God is a prick doesn't mean that you have to be grumpy. Like, don't let God make you grumpy. That's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3579">59:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3579" data-t="3579">that's a pretty powerful place if that you can sit in if you're not allowing God to make you grumpy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3585">59:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3585" data-t="3585">I don't know if it is achievable by people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3589" data-t="3589">by most people, by anybody. I don't know if I don't know if even a Buddhist monk</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3593" data-t="3593">can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3594" data-t="3594">can be so Zen that he doesn't let God make him grumpy. But, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3600" data-t="3600">God's not always</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3601" data-t="3601">trying to make you grumpy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3603">1:00:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3603" data-t="3603">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3606" data-t="3606">if you strive to make it so that God can't make you grumpy, well then</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3610" data-t="3610">if you succeed, nobody else will be able to make you grumpy, only God. And if God's not always trying to make you grumpy, there'll be times in your life</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3617" data-t="3617">where you'll have no excuse to be grumpy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3620" data-t="3620">God, if you have no excuse.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3622">1:00:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3622" data-t="3622">Yeah. If God can't make you grumpy, paper, get Bitcoin, can't make you grumpy. Spam can't make you grumpy. God is, if God is not trying to make me grumpy, you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3633">1:00:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3633" data-t="3633">who could possibly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3635" data-t="3635">be able to? Hell yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3638" data-t="3638">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3639" data-t="3639">Nothing stops this glee, I think should be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3643" data-t="3643">the,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3645">1:00:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3645" data-t="3645">the mantra. Yeah. So, Doctor. Adam Back followed me on Twitter this week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3650" data-t="3650">And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3652">1:00:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3652" data-t="3652">so that means Shinobi followed me with a different account. I don't know if Doctor. Adam Back is grumpy or gleeful. See, he has a very good poker face,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3659" data-t="3659">a very good podcast poker face. It's hard to tell. He says, you know, like he's bullish. He always says really bullish things, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3666" data-t="3666">a lot of people do, you know, and it's he's very good at masking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3670" data-t="3670">if he's just trolling around. I mean, he's you can't see that little Adam Back smirk on his face</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3676" data-t="3676">from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3677" data-t="3677">the Musaeton video.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3679">1:01:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3679" data-t="3679">He seemed pretty gleeful to me in person when I was talking to him.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3685" data-t="3685">He seems like he's having a good time.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3689">1:01:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3689" data-t="3689">I guess, you know, Tether's being really successful lately, so he has a reason to be gleeful.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3695" data-t="3695">Him and Samson.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3697">1:01:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3697" data-t="3697">Samson's grumpy, though.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3700">1:01:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3700" data-t="3700">That's true. That is true. Samson has become grumpy about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3704" data-t="3704">Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3705" data-t="3705">core and the knots debate. So even if if Samson can be grumpy about it, you know, anybody can.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3712">1:01:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3712" data-t="3712">Samson's don't yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3714" data-t="3714">Samson's allowing God to be make him grumpy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3718" data-t="3718">It's pretty apparent. We have not seen the god, Candelio, yet, and it is making</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3723" data-t="3723">Samson</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3724" data-t="3724">grumpy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3725" data-t="3725">And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3726">1:02:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3726" data-t="3726">it's interesting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3729">1:02:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3729" data-t="3729">That is that. I didn't think of it from that perspective, but there are and there are a lot of people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3736" data-t="3736">who like Samson,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3740" data-t="3740">are grumpy because we have had a God candle</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3744" data-t="3744">and I bet you they promised</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3746" data-t="3746">a lot of people in their life that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3749" data-t="3749">Bitcoin was God's money and that the candle was coming and it has it come, so they're they're frustrated.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3756">1:02:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3756" data-t="3756">Yeah. I think they just need to check their,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3759" data-t="3759">their time preference. I think we all would have thought that, Bitcoin would be a lot higher</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3764" data-t="3764">than it is right now. But, you know, one of the things that you always gotta</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3768" data-t="3768">factor into the scenario is that the rest of the world isn't like you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3774" data-t="3774">If you're a pioneer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3775" data-t="3775">you can't accept</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3777">1:02:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3777" data-t="3777">the plagues</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3778" data-t="3778">to just up and become pioneers. You're you're you're truly a special individual in a lot of ways.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3784">1:03:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3784" data-t="3784">Yeah. And if you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3786" data-t="3786">I think better said before we get to the boost is that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3790" data-t="3790">you know, when it if you make</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3793" data-t="3793">the Bitcoin prize god,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3797" data-t="3797">it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3798" data-t="3798">very often going to make you grumpy or try. It's gonna it's gonna constantly try to make you grumpy. Anybody who makes the price of Bitcoin their god</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3806">1:03:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3806" data-t="3806">is usually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3808" data-t="3808">more often than not pretty grumpy. They get a few months here and there every couple of years,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3813" data-t="3813">but even let you know, if it's not volatile enough,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3816" data-t="3816">people will still be grumpy even when it's at all time highs. Do you think Plettetor's made the price of Nakamoto stock has gone? NACA or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3824" data-t="3824">Sequans.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3826" data-t="3826">Basically, his Pledder has made David Daley and Swan his gods</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3830">1:03:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3830" data-t="3830">in Bitcoin, and they are really letting him down.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3836" data-t="3836">Can't even get a webinar on time. Same with Joseph Bachelor. Holy shit. That's that is the problem with making</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3843" data-t="3843">David Bailey your God.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3845" data-t="3845">You're gonna be pretty grumpy</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3848">1:04:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3848" data-t="3848">despite David not being a grumpy guy. Well, one of the things I'm really excited about this week,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3853" data-t="3853">before we get it in the found boost is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3856" data-t="3856">plan to interview David Bennett</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3858" data-t="3858">of the, Bitcoin and podcast. He's one of my favorite Bitcoin podcasters. So I'm excited for that one. Very,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3865" data-t="3865">huge</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3867" data-t="3867">Noster personality</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3868">1:04:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3868" data-t="3868">goes by none of your business</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3870">1:04:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3870" data-t="3870">on Noster. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It did.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3874" data-t="3874">It did.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3875" data-t="3875">That'd be a good one.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3878">1:04:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3878" data-t="3878">Absolute sleeper when it comes to Bitcoin podcasting. There there is some real sleeper podcasters. Like, people like to talk about Natalie and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3886" data-t="3886">not to say that she's not a good podcaster, but people like to talk about Natalie or,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3893" data-t="3893">Preston Pich or Marty. But there there's these guys out there, like, Dave Bennett that are they're some of the best in the world that I think deserve a lot more recognition.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3902" data-t="3902">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3903" data-t="3903">yeah, onto the fountain boost. So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3906" data-t="3906">I'm excited for that interview because we're gonna</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3909">1:05:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3909" data-t="3909">be able to read fundamentals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3911" data-t="3911">rebuttal,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3914" data-t="3914">to your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3916" data-t="3916">comment about him on the Odell interview. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3919" data-t="3919">First Boost from fundamentals, 10,101</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3923" data-t="3923">SAT says,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3924">1:05:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3924" data-t="3924">podcaster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3925" data-t="3925">life insurance is now in development, pays off, and found a boost. We are in stoppable.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3931">1:05:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3931" data-t="3931">Yeah. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3933" data-t="3933">I had a feeling that, our Jewish listeners were going to love</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3938" data-t="3938">skits about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3939" data-t="3939">insurance. They go, those guys love insurance.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3944">1:05:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3944" data-t="3944">Who likes insurance more? Boomers or Jews?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3949" data-t="3949">Or Boomer Jews?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3951">1:05:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3951" data-t="3951">Well, a lot of boomers don't like insurance because those seem to work for them, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3955" data-t="3955">the Jews love it. The insurance really usually works out for the Jews.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3960">1:06:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3960" data-t="3960">What do you mean it doesn't work for them?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3963">1:06:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3963" data-t="3963">You know, people, their house burns down.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3966" data-t="3966">The government comes in a week before a big fire, and they're like, no, no insurance coverage for your house. If it burns down a fire, then it burns down a fire.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3974" data-t="3974">Or no insurance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3976" data-t="3976">for the storm or this flood, or no insurance for,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3981" data-t="3981">you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3982" data-t="3982">know, this exchange went</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3984">1:06:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3984" data-t="3984">bankrupt and now you have no insurance on your Bitcoin or your crypto. It's just,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3989" data-t="3989">it doesn't seem to work out when things go wrong. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3992" data-t="3992">in all those instances, it usually does work out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3996" data-t="3996">for the Jews.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3997" data-t="3997">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3998" data-t="3998">I think that they have a pretty good</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4001">1:06:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4001" data-t="4001">respect and they like the insurance industry. The guy that took out the terrorism insurance on the World Trade Center before 09:11, he sure likes insurance.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4011">1:06:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4011" data-t="4011">Yeah. And again, I think the, I think that she's really benefited from that situation as well.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4016" data-t="4016">Insure from an insurance perspective that it worked out for them.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4021">1:07:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4021" data-t="4021">They just know how to play the game better than anybody else.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4025">1:07:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4025" data-t="4025">Gotta respect it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4027">1:07:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4027" data-t="4027">They respect themselves. I've never met a Jew that's afraid to put on a suit. That's for sure. Well, thank you for the biggest fundamentals.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4034">1:07:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4034" data-t="4034">We should all respect ourselves as much as the Jews respect</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4037" data-t="4037">respect themselves.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4038" data-t="4038">I think that should all that should be an aspiration all of us have. Maybe we'd have,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4043" data-t="4043">maybe we'd there'd be less conspiracy theories if we all respected ourselves as much.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4048">1:07:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4048" data-t="4048">There'd be a lot less complaining about the Jews. That's for sure.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4051">1:07:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4051" data-t="4051">How are you? That's one is, 5,420</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4055" data-t="4055">sets.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4056" data-t="4056">Friend of the show.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4058" data-t="4058">Best coffee shop, experienced</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4061" data-t="4061">curator</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4062" data-t="4062">in the industry,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4063">1:07:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4063" data-t="4063">Otis Bitt Meyer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4065" data-t="4065">When folks cry out to the government for more legislation to solve a problem, I'm reminded of the following wisdom from our modern prophets, run the jewels.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4074" data-t="4074">That's a,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4075" data-t="4075">that's a band, by the way. You can probably find them on wave like.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4080" data-t="4080">Funny fact about cage that ever built for just one group. So when that cage is done with them and you're still poor,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4088" data-t="4088">it come for you.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4090">1:08:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4090" data-t="4090">The newest, lowest on the totem. Well, golly gee.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4095" data-t="4095">You've been used.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4096" data-t="4096">You helped to fuel the death machine. That down the line will kill you too. Oops.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4104" data-t="4104">They probably deliver those lyrics</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4107" data-t="4107">a little bit more beautifully,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4110" data-t="4110">and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4111">1:08:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4111" data-t="4111">nicer sounding than I did, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4115" data-t="4115">run the jewels. I mean, they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4117" data-t="4117">they spit facts.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4121">1:08:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4121" data-t="4121">I've never heard of this band.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4124">1:08:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4124" data-t="4124">Interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4125" data-t="4125">I think you I I think you'd bike run the jewel.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4128" data-t="4128">It is, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4131" data-t="4131">they're kind of, I wouldn't say exactly hip hop, but it's, pretty pretty much a hip hop group, and they don't just sing about,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4139" data-t="4139">CIA psy ops about, you know, drugs and ditty parties. They do usually have a,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4146" data-t="4146">more thermodynamically</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4147">1:09:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4147" data-t="4147">sound</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4148" data-t="4148">message.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4151">1:09:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4151" data-t="4151">I'll make sure to check them out right after this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4155" data-t="4155">I love Otis. Big fan of Otis. Otis and I are concocting some plans. We're scheming. So,</span></span></p> +