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diff --git a/wiki/transcripts/plebslop-psychosis-bugle-weekly-episode-80.md b/wiki/transcripts/plebslop-psychosis-bugle-weekly-episode-80.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..1234d5e1 @@ -0,0 +1,605 @@ +--- +title: "Transcript: Plebslop Psychosis | Bugle Weekly Episode 80" +type: transcript +episode: plebslop-psychosis-bugle-weekly-episode-80 +generated: true +date: 2025-10-13 +audio: "https://feeds.fountain.fm/R8scBF2Wiykm0YVldsHQ/items/BIvuWN0srYkZIY5ZaQst/files/AUDIO---DEFAULT---b1014f32-b067-456f-a5cf-a2b7449fa908.mp3" +duration: "1:22:12" +sources: + - raw/episodes/plebslop-psychosis-bugle-weekly-episode-80/bundle.json +--- + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2">0:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2" data-t="2">Howdy, plebs. It's your favorite noester uncle from the Plebs Slop Depot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-9" data-t="9">At the Plebs Slop Depot, we keep the slop stocked up to satisfy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-14" data-t="14">all your plebs slop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-16" data-t="16">needs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-17" data-t="17">We've got breaking news that's just years old,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-21" data-t="21">information you've already heard multiple times,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-24">0:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-24" data-t="24">editorialized</span> <span class="cue" id="t-25" data-t="25">out of context,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-26" data-t="26">remarks from Paul Tudor Jones,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-29" data-t="29">tired tropes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-31" data-t="31">and much, much more.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-33" data-t="33">If you're looking for no KYC</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-35">0:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-35" data-t="35">pleb slop,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-36" data-t="36">we'll help you find that too.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-39" data-t="39">Find the Pleb Slop Depot on Telegram</span> <span class="cue" id="t-43" data-t="43">at plebslop,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-44" data-t="44">one word.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-46" data-t="46">Subscribe today to get access to all the best slop the Internet has to offer.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-51">0:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-51" data-t="51">Only at the plevslop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-53" data-t="53">depot.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-58">0:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-58" data-t="58">I wanna thank you all for coming out to honor Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-61" data-t="61">The monetary revolution that Satoshi Nakamoto began has had a big impact on all of us. We have experienced the powers of n g u technology,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-72" data-t="72">have consumed endless hours of plebslop,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-75" data-t="75">stayed up late discussing the properties of thermodynamics,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-79" data-t="79">and endlessly repeated things that Michael Saylor said.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-83" data-t="83">But now, Bitcoin has died, and you are all wondering</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-87">1:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-87" data-t="87">what is next.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-89" data-t="89">In many ways, what we are feeling now is what it must have felt like when the disciples gathered together on the day Jesus was crucified. That night on Golgotha, they were questioning what they should have done to prevent this tragedy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-102" data-t="102">Peter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-114" data-t="114">questioning</span> <span class="cue" data-t="114">why she hadn't been able to get Jesus to knock her up before his death.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-120" data-t="120">All of them were wondering where to go from there.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-123">2:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-123" data-t="123">In the same ways, you may be questioning</span> <span class="cue" id="t-126" data-t="126">what you could have done differently</span> <span class="cue" id="t-131" data-t="131">campaigned against Taproot?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-133" data-t="133">Should you have divorced your wife in order to have been able to say more mean things on Twitter to Shinobi and Gloria?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-141" data-t="141">Should you have spent all your money on start nine nodes to increase the knot's market share?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-146" data-t="146">Should you have paid $790</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-149">2:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-149" data-t="149">to get Matthew Crater's Bitcoin University degree?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-153" data-t="153">You may be shoulding on yourself just like the disciples were, but, folks, please think on the bright side.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-160" data-t="160">At least we can still experience NGU with Solana meme coins.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-165" data-t="165">Just because Bitcoin is dead</span> <span class="cue" id="t-167" data-t="167">doesn't mean that we don't have hope in NGU in other places.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-172" data-t="172">The Lord has promised a God candle, and he will deliver.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-177">2:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-177" data-t="177">Now I want to turn things over to Rod Palmer.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-182">3:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-182" data-t="182">Ladies and gentlemen,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-184" data-t="184">podcasters,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-185" data-t="185">pioneers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-186" data-t="186">node runners,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-187" data-t="187">paper bitcoiners.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-189" data-t="189">We are gathered here today to mourn the passing of bitcoin, aged 16.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-195">3:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-195" data-t="195">They lived a short but loud life.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-198" data-t="198">Born in the cipher pump mailing list, raised by libertarians,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-202" data-t="202">and finally euthanized</span> <span class="cue" id="t-203" data-t="203">by Gloria.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-205" data-t="205">Yes. Apparently, that's how it ends. Not a civil war,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-208" data-t="208">not a 51%</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-209">3:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-209" data-t="209">attack, a black swan, or quantum computing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-213" data-t="213">or the US government carpet bombing every node.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-216" data-t="216">No.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-218" data-t="218">Bitcoin died because someone somewhere removed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-221" data-t="221">the 80 byte limit on a GitHub pull request. And now LoopDash Jr.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-226" data-t="226">Thinks the blockchain will fill up with demon porn and entities ordinals.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-231">3:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-231" data-t="231">You have to hand it to bitcoiners.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-233" data-t="233">No one dies with this much drama.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-236" data-t="236">Every four years we get another having, another resurrection, and another round of people crying. It's over.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-243" data-t="243">We've got people holding digital candles on Noster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-246" data-t="246">saying, he was a good chain. CURE.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-249" data-t="249">I'm tainted by JPEGs.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-251">4:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-251" data-t="251">He didn't deserve this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-253" data-t="253">Meanwhile, the mempool is full of people in scribing little booboos and dick butts on chain, laughing going, we are the virus now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-260" data-t="260">I love the melodrama.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-262" data-t="262">Bitcoin has fallen. It's all spam. It's not sound money anymore.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-266" data-t="266">Oh, really?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-268" data-t="268">You mean to tell me the hardest, most censorship resistant monetary network on earth just died because you can't emotionally process a few kilobytes of monkey pictures?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-276">4:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-276" data-t="276">That's not death. That's a tantrum.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-280" data-t="280">Bitcoin didn't die. Your purity fetish did. Your fantasy that decentralization</span> <span class="cue" id="t-285" data-t="285">only counts when you personally approve of the use case. Your obsession</span> <span class="cue" id="t-289" data-t="289">with nonstandard</span> <span class="cue" id="t-291" data-t="291">transactions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-292" data-t="292">like it's a moral failing instead of just some data.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-295">4:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-295" data-t="295">Meanwhile,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-296" data-t="296">normal people, actual humans,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-298" data-t="298">are out there trying to use Bitcoin, build businesses, and do things. They don't care about your men pool wars.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-307" data-t="307">So what are we burying today, really? Not Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-311" data-t="311">We're burying illusion. The illusion</span> <span class="cue" id="t-313" data-t="313">that a few angry node operators get to decide what real Bitcoin is.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-318">5:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-318" data-t="318">We're burying the idea that changing a line of code kills a 2 and a half trillion dollar network run by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-325" data-t="325">thousands of machines worldwide.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-328" data-t="328">We're burying the fantasy that purity was ever a consensus rule.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-334" data-t="334">Bitcoin isn't dead.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-336" data-t="336">Bitcoin is a cockroach that lives in events of the Internet eating scraps of fiat collapse and glowing in the dark.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-343" data-t="343">Bitcoin is the raccoon digging through the trash behind Wall Street's backdoor.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-348">5:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-348" data-t="348">Equin is the rat that survives your nuclear purity tests. It's not dead. It's evolving.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-355" data-t="355">It's shedding the last bit of priesthood so that everyone, the artist, the memeers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-360" data-t="360">the freaks,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-361" data-t="361">the builders</span> <span class="cue" id="t-362" data-t="362">can play too.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-363" data-t="363">So please</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-365">6:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-365" data-t="365">join me. Lower your hardware wallets,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-368" data-t="368">light your cold storage candles,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-370" data-t="370">and let's say it together.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-372" data-t="372">Rest in peace, Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-375" data-t="375">Until the next block.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-378">6:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-378" data-t="378">Bitcoin is dead, folks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-381" data-t="381">On Friday,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-383" data-t="383">the gay Kordaughs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-384" data-t="384">shipped</span> <span class="cue" id="t-386" data-t="386">v 30 and officially killed Bitcoin immediately</span> <span class="cue" id="t-389" data-t="389">after they released</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-392">6:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-392" data-t="392">v 30.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-393" data-t="393">The price crashed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-395" data-t="395">very dramatically. We hosted a funeral</span> <span class="cue" id="t-398" data-t="398">over on Twitter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-400" data-t="400">to commemorate it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-402" data-t="402">It</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-404">6:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-404" data-t="404">was a sad day.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-405" data-t="405">It's a Bitcoin podcaster.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-408" data-t="408">When Bitcoin dies, it's the end of the world.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-412" data-t="412">It was a very sad day.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-415">6:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-415" data-t="415">Yeah. I mean, it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-416" data-t="416">all our hopes and dreams for the future.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-419" data-t="419">The Citadel's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-420" data-t="420">hyperbitcoinization,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-424" data-t="424">the global reserve. I mean, all those hopes dashed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-427" data-t="427">But,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-430">7:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-430" data-t="430">the you know, Donald Trump revived</span> <span class="cue" id="t-433" data-t="433">Bitcoin, brought it back to life on Sunday</span> <span class="cue" id="t-436" data-t="436">by announcing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-438" data-t="438">that, he was just kidding</span> <span class="cue" id="t-441" data-t="441">when he was talking about,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-444" data-t="444">another trade war with China. So we're, you know, for October,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-448">7:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-448" data-t="448">Well, it's gone down. The price has gone down about $1,000.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-452" data-t="452">It was, almost 116</span> <span class="cue" id="t-454" data-t="454">k</span> <span class="cue" data-t="454">this morning, which would have made us positive</span> <span class="cue" id="t-458" data-t="458">for the month,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-459" data-t="459">but it's back down. I don't know if we're up anymore.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-463">7:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-463" data-t="463">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-464" data-t="464">either way, it's looking it's looking better than it was Friday. We really thought it was dead.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-469" data-t="469">A lot of people were blaming</span> <span class="cue" id="t-471" data-t="471">the bugle</span> <span class="cue" id="t-472" data-t="472">and having this funeral</span> <span class="cue" id="t-476" data-t="476">for the death of Bitcoin. And that death is a heavy burden. I mean, I did not want to be blamed</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-482">8:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-482" data-t="482">for killing Bitcoin. I I would much rather even though I don't believe it's true,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-487" data-t="487">I would much rather Gloria take the blame than me. Well, I think anytime you're in the,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-492">8:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-492" data-t="492">the public persona</span> <span class="cue" id="t-493" data-t="493">or just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-494" data-t="494">the public sphere in general and something happens, somebody's gonna blame you for something.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-500" data-t="500">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-501" data-t="501">getting blamed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-503" data-t="503">for the death of Bitcoin or getting blamed, you know, for anything</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-508">8:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-508" data-t="508">is really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-509" data-t="509">it's it's flattering.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-512" data-t="512">People are respecting the credentials. People are respecting the power of Bitcoin podcasters.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-518" data-t="518">So I enjoy when people blame us for stuff. Like, I just hope that they send, hate mail on,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-525" data-t="525">to our email, the bitcoinbugle@protonmail.com.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-529">8:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-529" data-t="529">You do. I do like to read that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-532" data-t="532">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-533" data-t="533">you know, you're right</span> <span class="cue" id="t-534" data-t="534">With the heavy responsibility</span> <span class="cue" id="t-538" data-t="538">of being a podcaster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-539" data-t="539">and all the accolades and the NGU,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-542">9:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-542" data-t="542">the podcasters,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-544" data-t="544">catalyze,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-545" data-t="545">we have to we have to take responsibility and accountability</span> <span class="cue" id="t-550" data-t="550">for the negative.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-551" data-t="551">You know, it was the first</span> <span class="cue" id="t-553" data-t="553">20,000</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-555">9:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-555" data-t="555">USDT</span> <span class="cue" id="t-556" data-t="556">candle</span> <span class="cue" data-t="556">in Bitcoin history. A God candle, some might say.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-560" data-t="560">However, it was red, not green.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-564" data-t="564">And if you were short Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-567" data-t="567">that was great. I mean,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-568">9:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-568" data-t="568">huge returns. Barron Trump</span> <span class="cue" id="t-571" data-t="571">was short the market.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-573" data-t="573">Based on a report I read,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-575" data-t="575">he opened a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-577" data-t="577">multimillion dollar short</span> <span class="cue" id="t-579" data-t="579">one minute</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-581">9:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-581" data-t="581">before the terrorist tweets that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-584" data-t="584">really nuked the parader's Sheikov market.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-587" data-t="587">And in Trump, he Barron made,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-589" data-t="589">you know, allegedly,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-591" data-t="591">it was him,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-593" data-t="593">$200,000,000</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-595">9:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-595" data-t="595">in, like, a half hour.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-596" data-t="596">Incredible.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-598" data-t="598">19 years old.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-600">10:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-600" data-t="600">He probably did that without ever taking,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-603" data-t="603">Matthew Kratter's trading course</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-606">10:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-606" data-t="606">as well. Yeah. He's, yeah. Barron is actually enrolled</span> <span class="cue" id="t-610" data-t="610">at NYU,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-611" data-t="611">not Bitcoin University.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-615" data-t="615">So it it it goes to show that you don't have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-618" data-t="618">to go to Bitcoin University to or Trader University</span> <span class="cue" id="t-622" data-t="622">to be a successful trader. You can actually,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-626">10:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-626" data-t="626">you know, you don't have to go to college at all.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-631">10:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-631" data-t="631">Do you think he shorted his dad's meme coin?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-636">10:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-636" data-t="636">I don't know. I would I would short my dad's meme coin. If my dad launched a meme coin, I would short it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-642" data-t="642">I wouldn't tell him, but I would short it. So it wouldn't be out of the realm of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-648" data-t="648">of possibility.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-651">10:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-651" data-t="651">Could you imagine the conversation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-653" data-t="653">around Christmas dinner,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-656" data-t="656">Thanksgiving dinner,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-657" data-t="657">explaining to your dad that you made $200,000,000</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-661">11:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-661" data-t="661">shorting his meme coin? I have a feeling my my dad would would would absolutely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-666" data-t="666">demand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-667" data-t="667">a cut</span> <span class="cue" id="t-669" data-t="669">of</span> <span class="cue" data-t="669">that. I guess if I guess I guess if the president wanted a cut from Barron, he would just have to go</span> <span class="cue" id="t-676" data-t="676">through the you know, he he has to follow</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-679">11:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-679" data-t="679">appropriate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-680" data-t="680">bureaucratic procedure. He'd have to get it through taxes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-683" data-t="683">You have to raise taxes on Barron.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-686">11:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-686" data-t="686">I I just assumed Donald would,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-688" data-t="688">sue his son.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-690" data-t="690">This was that's what he likes to do that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-693">11:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-693" data-t="693">Very litigious. Yes.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-695">11:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-695" data-t="695">He</span> <span class="cue" id="t-696" data-t="696">it's one thing, you know, a lot of people are wondering why Trump loves</span> <span class="cue" id="t-701" data-t="701">Israel so much. He's over there right now,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-704" data-t="704">hanging out with BB,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-706" data-t="706">having a good time, but gonna go tour Gaza. He's gonna go look at the the location of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-712" data-t="712">the next Bitcoin conference</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-715">11:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-715" data-t="715">in Gaza</span> <span class="cue" id="t-716" data-t="716">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-718" data-t="718">figure out where he's gonna set up Trump Tower,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-721" data-t="721">Gaza style. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-725" data-t="725">but, yeah, Trump Trump loves</span> <span class="cue" id="t-727" data-t="727">Jewish lawyers. Like, he understands the value prop that, Jewish lawyers have for sure.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-735">12:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-735" data-t="735">Speaking of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-737" data-t="737">of Gaza and, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-740" data-t="740">the quote unquote, genocide there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-743" data-t="743">to correct that the Shitcoin market</span> <span class="cue" id="t-745" data-t="745">we moved the violence on chain Friday, moved it out of the strip,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-750" data-t="750">And on chain,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-751">12:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-751" data-t="751">the the shitcoin markets got absolutely obliterated. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-755" data-t="755">Cosmos went from, like, $5 to 0.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-759" data-t="759">Multi billion dollar coin, top 25 coin went to zero. There was multiple other coins. It was all liquidation cascade.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-766" data-t="766">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-768" data-t="768">a lot of others people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-770" data-t="770">have,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-771">12:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-771" data-t="771">written, like, farewell tweets.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-773" data-t="773">People are still trying to check-in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-775" data-t="775">on some of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-778" data-t="778">those crypto influencers. They believe, like, it no joke, like, that people may have committed suicide from this. They were posting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-785" data-t="785">lost porn,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-787" data-t="787">millions of tens of millions of dollars</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-790">13:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-790" data-t="790">erased</span> <span class="cue" id="t-791" data-t="791">in seconds,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-793" data-t="793">and you know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-795" data-t="795">if you're listening to this I'm</span> <span class="cue" id="t-798" data-t="798">going on Bitcoin news</span> <span class="cue" id="t-800" data-t="800">livestream later this morning so you have to go back to YouTube and watch it by the time you hear this,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-806">13:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-806" data-t="806">but But we're gonna talk about that a little bit more, I think.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-809" data-t="809">So if you wanna get more because it's like some conspiracies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-814" data-t="814">why they think that happened and the timing, the very specific timing and how that affects the perpetuals markets which are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-822" data-t="822">very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-823" data-t="823">rarely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-824" data-t="824">did they take, like, a time off each month, but they did.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-828">13:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-828" data-t="828">And this is when the the the liquidation happened, when the liquidity was at its</span> <span class="cue" id="t-833" data-t="833">lowest point,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-835" data-t="835">in this in in the month. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-838" data-t="838">all that aside,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-840" data-t="840">it was blood it was terrible and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-843" data-t="843">it's you know, a lot of people are looking for sympathy</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-847">14:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-847" data-t="847">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-848" data-t="848">if you trade</span> <span class="cue" id="t-850" data-t="850">Polkadot</span> <span class="cue" id="t-851" data-t="851">now Durand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-853" data-t="853">on 50 x leverage perpetuals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-856" data-t="856">during a fourth turning,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-858">14:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-858" data-t="858">I I can't help you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-861" data-t="861">If a true social post can can send global prices up or down 20%,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-866" data-t="866">and you're trading</span> <span class="cue" id="t-867" data-t="867">Polkadot on 50 x leverage.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-870" data-t="870">A coin that is purely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-873" data-t="873">an entire market cap of nothing but leverage.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-877">14:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-877" data-t="877">During the fourth turning, you would you just have not been paying attention. You've not been listening to podcasts. You do not know what you are doing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-886" data-t="886">and it shows.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-888">14:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-888" data-t="888">I I just think trading with leverage in general during the the fourth turning is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-895" data-t="895">risky as it is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-898" data-t="898">Living is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-899" data-t="899">leveraged enough in the four turning.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-902" data-t="902">Just being a law. We</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-904">15:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-904" data-t="904">are all living</span> <span class="cue" id="t-906" data-t="906">on borrowed time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-908" data-t="908">right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-910" data-t="910">Adding extra margin on top of that to your $4.00 1 k</span> <span class="cue" id="t-914" data-t="914">to trade shitcoins</span> <span class="cue" id="t-916" data-t="916">on perps</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-918">15:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-918" data-t="918">with all these, like, Asian exchanges, which they love to to rip off plebs. I mean, you're just asking for it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-928">15:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-928" data-t="928">I wanna rant about the shit coins for a second.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-931" data-t="931">So I'm gonna hop up in my soapbox. So it I'm over on CoinGecko, and I'm looking at this shit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-937" data-t="937">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-938" data-t="938">one of one of the big things that happened this week was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-942" data-t="942">Binance Coin flipped XRP.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-945" data-t="945">And you look at the top 10, you know, you you you watch the the Shitcoin,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-949">15:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-949" data-t="949">Plebslop,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-951" data-t="951">YouTube,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-952" data-t="952">Altcoin Daily, whatever. The these guys are always talking about the top 10</span> <span class="cue" id="t-958" data-t="958">cryptos</span> <span class="cue" id="t-959" data-t="959">being a good investment or whatever.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-962" data-t="962">Crypto lark, that that loser.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-966">16:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-966" data-t="966">In the top 10 is a coin called</span> <span class="cue" id="t-969" data-t="969">Lido Staked Ether.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-972" data-t="972">It's where we're at. So, you know, the the crypto market's getting taken over by stable coins.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-978" data-t="978">It's getting taken over by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-980" data-t="980">the the companies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-982" data-t="982">or the the rails for staple coin coins. So you got BNB,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-987">16:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-987" data-t="987">Tron,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-988" data-t="988">Ethereum.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-990" data-t="990">You've got</span> <span class="cue" id="t-991" data-t="991">and now now you have staked products like that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-996" data-t="996">And here's my soapbox.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-998" data-t="998">The plebs and the plebslop.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1001">16:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1001" data-t="1001">The plebslop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1002" data-t="1002">convinced</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1004" data-t="1004">the plebs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1005" data-t="1005">that they needed to attack the shit coins.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1008" data-t="1008">You go and you look at the shit coins. It's so fucking unimpressive. The the level of scamming is so unimpressive.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1015" data-t="1015">And the narratives of,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1017">16:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1017" data-t="1017">oh, well, they're sucking liquidity and brainpower away from Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1022" data-t="1022">The narratives are so fucking unimpressive,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1025" data-t="1025">guys. It's it's just the most</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1027" data-t="1027">ridiculously</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1028" data-t="1028">stupid pep slop.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1030" data-t="1030">And the people promoting the pep slop</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1032">17:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1032" data-t="1032">of you need to attack the shit coins</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1035" data-t="1035">or selling you the solutions.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1037" data-t="1037">They're selling you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1040" data-t="1040">KYC</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1042" data-t="1042">built on top of shit coins, on top of prime trust, on top of fortress.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1048" data-t="1048">And the narratives are so fucking retarded.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1052">17:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1052" data-t="1052">If if you've been spending</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1054" data-t="1054">your time,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1056" data-t="1056">your mental bandwidth,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1059" data-t="1059">being upset about the shitcoins</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1061" data-t="1061">the last few years,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1063" data-t="1063">You have been d doused by plexlov.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1068">17:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1068" data-t="1068">It's so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1069" data-t="1069">incredibly unimportant. The shit coins are so incredibly unimportant.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1074" data-t="1074">And saving people from the shit coins is such a fucking waste of time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1078" data-t="1078">You could've been doing things.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1081" data-t="1081">You could've been hanging out in the Maschadel. You could've been buying Otis Bitmire coffee. You could've been boosting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1087" data-t="1087">Bitcoin podcasters on founding.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1089">18:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1089" data-t="1089">And instead you you could've been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1092" data-t="1092">having a good time with your wife.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1094" data-t="1094">And instead,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1096" data-t="1096">you're losing sleep</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1097" data-t="1097">over shit coins</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1099" data-t="1099">that don't matter.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1101">18:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1101" data-t="1101">The four turnings here, there there's a lot of things that are significantly more important than the shit coins.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1108" data-t="1108">Like, oh, but, you know, Udi and, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1113" data-t="1113">these other guys, these these other shit coins, these Ethereum guys, Vitalik, you know, whatever,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1118" data-t="1118">Cardano, Charles Hoskinson.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1120" data-t="1120">Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1123" data-t="1123">this is the power of Plevslaw to convince you to spend your energy worrying about Charles fucking Hoskinson.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1131">18:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1131" data-t="1131">How fucking retarded</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1133" data-t="1133">is that?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1134" data-t="1134">To be worried about, you know, go goes to Dick Whitman. He's out there just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1140" data-t="1140">spoon feeding people pep slop. You you see this all the time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1143" data-t="1143">These guys are like, okay. I have nothing interesting to say. My engagement sucks, so I'm just gonna talk about how Ethereum sucks or is dead or whatever.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1151" data-t="1151">It's so fucking uninspired.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1154">19:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1154" data-t="1154">It's so fucking uninteresting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1157">19:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1157" data-t="1157">And Yeah. The same the same people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1160" data-t="1160">who will mock</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1162" data-t="1162">Simply Bitcoin for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1164" data-t="1164">constantly tweeting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1166" data-t="1166">you know, how many Bitcoin do you need before you can retire?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1170" data-t="1170">Well, they,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1172">19:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1172" data-t="1172">Bill don't make that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1173" data-t="1173">complaint,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1175" data-t="1175">and then the very next tweet they post will be just a reminder</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1178" data-t="1178">XRP is a shitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1181" data-t="1181">We know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1182" data-t="1182">Dick Whitman.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1183">19:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1183" data-t="1183">We know. Everybody knows. And this is People aren't gonna understand this and you're like, okay. You might convince somebody of something that has, like, very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1192" data-t="1192">low information. But at the at this point,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1195" data-t="1195">if you're out there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1197" data-t="1197">buying shit coins, if you think the project is promising or the the technology has a future,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1203" data-t="1203">you're so fucking retarded you're gonna fall for anything.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1208">20:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1208" data-t="1208">A lot of the a lot of it is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1210" data-t="1210">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1212" data-t="1212">Larry Clipston</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1213" data-t="1213">loves</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1214" data-t="1214">to remind people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1216" data-t="1216">of the DMs and the tweets he receives from people who would like to thank him for saving them</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1222">20:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1222" data-t="1222">from Celsius from saving them from losing money on Celsius and BlockFi</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1226" data-t="1226">and people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1228" data-t="1228">they wanna be they want to get the glory and the praise that Corey got, and they wanna be the people who save</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1234" data-t="1234">other people from these shitcoin casinos.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1238" data-t="1238">But it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1240" data-t="1240">it's just a ma- you have to</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1242">20:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1242" data-t="1242">remind yourself about incentives because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1245" data-t="1245">how do we know that any of these are real? I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1248" data-t="1248">they just wanted a retweet from Corey Clipson. They just wanted to say something like, oh, I'm Bitcoin only now, thanks to you. And they get a retweet and they get tons of engagement.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1257" data-t="1257">Or they just wanna say, you know, Corey would offer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1261" data-t="1261">free, you know, Swan,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1264" data-t="1264">DCA premium or whatever and they get free newsletters from Tomer</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1268">21:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1268" data-t="1268">if they, if they could prove that they withdrew</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1272" data-t="1272">their Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1273" data-t="1273">from Celsius, you know, after Corey tweeted about it and it's just this is all engagement hack</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1279" data-t="1279">and who knows how many people really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1282" data-t="1282">saved</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1284" data-t="1284">I mean how many how many think about it for a second just ask yourself how many people do you read Corey Cook since timeline</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1290">21:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1290" data-t="1290">how many people do you think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1292" data-t="1292">he legitimately</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1294" data-t="1294">saved? Just read that, just read his timeline and think of how many minds he changed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1300" data-t="1300">it's it's a side. It's a civil spoof.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1303" data-t="1303">It's all a civil spoof. Everything. Even the stuff that seems harmless. It's unbelievable. So, you know, you coined</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1309">21:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1309" data-t="1309">one of the things you wanted to talk about in the show. So you coined a new term, plug slop psychosis.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1316">21:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1316" data-t="1316">Well, yeah. Before again, it it yeah. We'll go ahead.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1320">21:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1320" data-t="1320">Well, I I I think the shitcoin derangement syndrome</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1324" data-t="1324">is a is a form of of Plevslav</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1327" data-t="1327">psychosis. Like, there there's a lot of people out there that just don't really they don't have anything interesting to offer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1333" data-t="1333">They don't have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1335" data-t="1335">any sort of creative</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1337" data-t="1337">thoughts. They have not with the while they talk about</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1341">22:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1341" data-t="1341">Bitcoin from first principles,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1344" data-t="1344">they actually don't they they've never actually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1348" data-t="1348">learned anything from first principles. They just like to, you know, repeat the word because it sounds cool.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1353" data-t="1353">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1354" data-t="1354">In the shitcoin derangement syndrome</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1357" data-t="1357">and spending all this time worrying about this shit is a form</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1361">22:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1361" data-t="1361">of the plex slop psychosis.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1364">22:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1364" data-t="1364">Yeah. And and plex slop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1368" data-t="1368">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1369" data-t="1369">people think it's silly, they think it's a joke,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1372" data-t="1372">but it's not. It is a serious</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1375" data-t="1375">it's a it's a silly term to describe a serious phenomenon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1380" data-t="1380">because plexlop</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1381">23:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1381" data-t="1381">has been on the rise</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1383" data-t="1383">for several years.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1385" data-t="1385">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1386" data-t="1386">it's stronger and bigger and more</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1390" data-t="1390">consequential</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1391" data-t="1391">than ever before.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1392">23:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1392" data-t="1392">It's becoming a political force And people ask, what is plexus lock? How do you define plexus lock?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1399" data-t="1399">And it's very it's very difficult. It's very broad, and it's very perspective based. It's not it's not limited</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1406" data-t="1406">to Bitcoin. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1408" data-t="1408">college</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1409" data-t="1409">football arguments and and and memes on set, that's plexus law. Sports ball is plexus law. Oftentimes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1415" data-t="1415">not the the not the the event itself,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1418">23:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1418" data-t="1418">but the discussion around it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1421" data-t="1421">Politics is plexsla. Again,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1424" data-t="1424">the discussion around it. And that's that's obvious, right? Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1429" data-t="1429">political discussion on social media is absolutely plexsla.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1434" data-t="1434">Boomerslop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1435" data-t="1435">is plexsla.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1436">23:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1436" data-t="1436">So, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1438" data-t="1438">you if you're if you're old enough to remember</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1441" data-t="1441">when your your grandparents</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1442" data-t="1442">or your mom and dad would would email you, forward you these email,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1449" data-t="1449">chain emails,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1450" data-t="1450">and it was copy pasta.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1452">24:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1452" data-t="1452">And it was like about how</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1454" data-t="1454">you had to post this on Facebook so they didn't have your permission</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1458" data-t="1458">to use your information or to save it in their database.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1461" data-t="1461">Things like it, this is all touch a lot, but when we narrow it down to this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1465" data-t="1465">this industry,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1468" data-t="1468">it's becoming a force and it's it's captured people's minds to the point where, you know, last night</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1475">24:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1475" data-t="1475">on Noster,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1477" data-t="1477">Justin Batchelor,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1478" data-t="1478">well I don't know if he personally was, he was taking screenshots and arguing with Odell</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1484" data-t="1484">on Twitter, but the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1485" data-t="1485">the the plebs with with pupslopsychosis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1489" data-t="1489">were attacking,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1491">24:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1491" data-t="1491">Odell</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1492" data-t="1492">on Noster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1493" data-t="1493">about they wanted him to recommend people run knots and it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1498" data-t="1498">a it's getting to the point where like they're attacking Anchor Watch, they're attacking Odell</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1503" data-t="1503">and his, his companies, they're attacking Marty, they're attacking Trezor,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1508" data-t="1508">they're attacking Foundation, they're going after these companies, these business owners,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1513">25:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1513" data-t="1513">and they're trying to blackmail</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1515" data-t="1515">the business owner and individuals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1517" data-t="1517">with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1519" data-t="1519">the threat of quote unquote,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1521" data-t="1521">See Sam,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1522" data-t="1522">the child sex abuse they're doing what Jeffrey Epstein did, they're trying to blackmail people</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1528">25:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1528" data-t="1528">with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1529" data-t="1529">with, you know, pedophile</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1531" data-t="1531">type things</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1533" data-t="1533">in order to strong-arm them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1535" data-t="1535">into buying their club slot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1537" data-t="1537">And it's, it just some people do not have</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1541">25:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1541" data-t="1541">the constitution</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1543" data-t="1543">to stand up to it. They are they feel bullied, they feel pressured, it's like the mafia showing up to your business. It's like, if you don't buy our club slop,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1550" data-t="1550">we're gonna, we're gonna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1552" data-t="1552">put you in a wheelchair, we're gonna shut you down.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1555" data-t="1555">And this is why it is a serious phenomenon, it's, it is a political,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1561" data-t="1561">violent force</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1562">26:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1562" data-t="1562">that is growing, and it's not going anywhere. Yeah. We we've seen this in the the political K Fab Industrial Complex</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1571" data-t="1571">where, for a while, the left</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1574" data-t="1574">in 2020,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1576" data-t="1576">for example, with with Black Lives Matter and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1581" data-t="1581">the defund the police and, you know, whatever,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1586" data-t="1586">was running</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1587">26:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1587" data-t="1587">all over the right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1589" data-t="1589">They were using weaponized plebs slop to just completely demolish these people. They they show up. They're like, okay.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1595" data-t="1595">We're gonna we're gonna get a bunch of angry we're gonna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1599" data-t="1599">we're gonna mobilize the angry plebs. And they're gonna show up to your city, and they're gonna burn shit down. And we're gonna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1605" data-t="1605">all we gotta do is post some memes and then,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1609" data-t="1609">put some piles of bricks.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1611">26:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1611" data-t="1611">We'll show them. And the right responded</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1615" data-t="1615">with weaponized plexilog.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1617" data-t="1617">And the back's blue.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1619" data-t="1619">They're like, okay. We're gonna get these, you know, angry, like, high high testosterone,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1624" data-t="1624">like, middle aged men to show up, and they're gonna fight the the skinny soy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1629" data-t="1629">antifa guys in the street. They're gonna they're gonna have the Proud Boys.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1633">27:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1633" data-t="1633">And and Pled Slop led to January 6.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1638" data-t="1638">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1639" data-t="1639">you know, the the left tried to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1643" data-t="1643">squash</span> <span class="cue" data-t="1643">it. They they threw these these</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1647" data-t="1647">cannon fodder plebs</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1649">27:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1649" data-t="1649">in prison,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1650" data-t="1650">solitary confinement, very they they shot Ashley Babbitt.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1656" data-t="1656">Ashley Babbitt was definitely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1658" data-t="1658">a,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1660">27:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1660" data-t="1660">she was She's a victim of blood slop. Out of blood slop psychosis.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1664">27:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1664" data-t="1664">Exactly.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1666">27:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1666" data-t="1666">And, Yeah. You're right. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1669">27:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1669" data-t="1669">The these guys, like like Bachelor, what they what they need to realize is if you live by Plebslop, you might die by Plebslop.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1677" data-t="1677">Like, it it can cut both ways. Like, if you're gonna go out and you're gonna bully,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1682" data-t="1682">company owners to to run not,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1685" data-t="1685">it's gonna come back to you. The these company owners</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1689" data-t="1689">might direct the plebslop right back at you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1694" data-t="1694">And it's,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1698">28:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1698" data-t="1698">it's kinda tiresome. I mean</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1700">28:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1700" data-t="1700">Think about it. Take set aside</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1704" data-t="1704">some of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1705" data-t="1705">the animosity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1706" data-t="1706">and just the the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1711" data-t="1711">betrayal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1712" data-t="1712">that you've that people feel</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1715">28:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1715" data-t="1715">amongst</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1716" data-t="1716">the people in their community, all the things that have happened in the last five years as the plebslop,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1720" data-t="1720">weaponized plebslop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1722" data-t="1722">pendulum</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1723" data-t="1723">has swung back and forth.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1726" data-t="1726">And think about all the people, like, you mentioned the Proud Boys.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1730">28:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1730" data-t="1730">And then there's key went on.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1731" data-t="1731">There is the January 6, like the guy that was dressed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1735" data-t="1735">in like the big buffalo,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1739" data-t="1739">outfit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1740" data-t="1740">You had Ashley Dabbot,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1742" data-t="1742">you have Antifa,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1743">29:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1743" data-t="1743">you had the riots in Minneapolis,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1746" data-t="1746">in all these other cities.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1749" data-t="1749">These are these are victims</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1752" data-t="1752">of plexus.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1753" data-t="1753">This is plexus psychosis,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1755" data-t="1755">and it's come to this industry, this niche esoteric</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1761">29:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1761" data-t="1761">pocket of internet culture.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1764" data-t="1764">And the these plebs are terrified.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1767" data-t="1767">They're brainwashed, and you know, you talk about Chatt GBT psychosis,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1771" data-t="1771">it's like this this feedback loop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1774" data-t="1774">of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1777" data-t="1777">of being told or being feeling that you're right about things. You talk to Chad GBT and it tells you, you are absolutely right. This crazy thought that you just shared with me makes total sense</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1790">29:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1790" data-t="1790">if we frame the conversation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1792" data-t="1792">very, very particularly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1795" data-t="1795">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1796" data-t="1796">a lot of plebs have spent the last five years</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1800" data-t="1800">consuming memes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1802" data-t="1802">sharing it with their friends and family,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1804">30:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1804" data-t="1804">listening to certain podcasts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1806" data-t="1806">just consuming this content that kind of fed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1810" data-t="1810">this this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1811" data-t="1811">echo chamber</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1813" data-t="1813">rich feedback loop in their mind</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1816" data-t="1816">that</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1817">30:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1817" data-t="1817">has led to this point where they are thinking to themselves</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1823" data-t="1823">that the core devs do not matter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1825" data-t="1825">The</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1826" data-t="1826">the network engineers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1828" data-t="1828">the adversarial,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1831" data-t="1831">transaction,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1832">30:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1832" data-t="1832">you know, people like Total and Huddl, but testing the network,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1835" data-t="1835">testing their nodes, testing configurations,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1838" data-t="1838">testing mempool</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1839" data-t="1839">configurations,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1840" data-t="1840">testing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1841" data-t="1841">you know, different</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1843">30:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1843" data-t="1843">exploits</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1844" data-t="1844">that are very, very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1847" data-t="1847">conditional,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1848" data-t="1848">testing the security of, like, these hardware wallets and and trying to get them to leak,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1854" data-t="1854">you know, private keys to over, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1858" data-t="1858">nonces being reused,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1860">30:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1860" data-t="1860">address read, like, all these different</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1862" data-t="1862">attack vectors that could be used to steal people. Anyways, they think that those people do not matter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1867" data-t="1867">and that the people who protect and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1871" data-t="1871">and and further</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1873" data-t="1873">the growth of the network and the protocol, it's the plebs. The plebs will save Bitcoin again, they say. The plebs, the cyber hornets, the they are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1882" data-t="1882">the base of</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1884">31:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1884" data-t="1884">of what</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1885" data-t="1885">partake</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1887" data-t="1887">It becomes a crusade.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1888" data-t="1888">They're on a crusade to save the holy protocol,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1892" data-t="1892">and the only they can do it because they are the pure maxis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1896" data-t="1896">who are always right about everything,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1899">31:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1899" data-t="1899">especially Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1901" data-t="1901">And that's a Plebslot psychosis, it it it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1905" data-t="1905">it's a cognitive dissonance that is very very difficult</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1909" data-t="1909">to break</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1911" data-t="1911">once it kind of gets to this terminal stage, and some people have terminal plug psychosis, pod slot psychosis.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1917" data-t="1917">And if you listen to, you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1920">31:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1920" data-t="1920">equate it, think about somebody who goes to Harvard,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1923" data-t="1923">and the brainwashing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1925" data-t="1925">that they receive.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1926" data-t="1926">Well if you go to Bitcoin University</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1928" data-t="1928">and you get your degree, it's the same</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1931" data-t="1931">level, the same depth</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1934">32:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1934" data-t="1934">of of of brain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1936" data-t="1936">broad psychosis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1938" data-t="1938">that is very, very, very difficult to over to override</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1942" data-t="1942">and to fix. And it's it's problematic. It's there's a lot of victims here who are gonna have consequences for the rest of their lifespan.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1952">32:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1952" data-t="1952">We know that Publop is deadly. I mean, we we've seen so many examples of this through history, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1959" data-t="1959">the Jones Plantation,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1960" data-t="1960">for example,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1962" data-t="1962">or Jonestown.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1963" data-t="1963">It</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1964" data-t="1964">or not Plantation, but the Jonestown</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1967">32:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1967" data-t="1967">in, Guyana</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1969" data-t="1969">with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1973" data-t="1973">what's his name? Jim Jones.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1977" data-t="1977">That was an example of pep slop. These guys are slurping it up.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1981" data-t="1981">And slurping up, Jim Jones' pep slop,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1985" data-t="1985">his half baked ideas</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1987">33:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1987" data-t="1987">based on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1989" data-t="1989">amphetamine field rants.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1991" data-t="1991">They thought they were listening to Eric Kays rants, but they were just listening to pep slop rants.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1996" data-t="1996">And it got he he convinced them to take the Kool Aid. They all killed themselves.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2001" data-t="2001">It's an example of it being deadly, and we see this happen over and over and over again</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2006" data-t="2006">where, you you know, these crusades, like, what why why did the people in Jonestown</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2011">33:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2011" data-t="2011">feel obligated to do it while they got bullied</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2014" data-t="2014">into a lot of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2016" data-t="2016">the, you know, a lot of the pep stop Slop industrial complex and the way that the psychosis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2022" data-t="2022">is informed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2023" data-t="2023">is through bullying.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2025" data-t="2025">And these guys are out there. They're they're bullying people for being shitcoiners. They're bullying people for</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2030">33:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2030" data-t="2030">running which node implementation they're doing. It's very very similar tactics.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2037" data-t="2037">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2038" data-t="2038">you know, people feel like they're on this crusade, like, the this higher calling, which, you know, can lead to them drinking, poison Kool Aid.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2046" data-t="2046">And the the stuff, like, even if it doesn't end up in this situation where you've got a bunch of people that that set up a citadel in Guyana</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2054" data-t="2054">and it ends up with them killing themselves,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2057" data-t="2057">It's it's deadly in a lot of ways because it you waste your time.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2062">34:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2062" data-t="2062">You waste your time being upset. It takes away from,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2066" data-t="2066">you doing productive things. It takes away from you enjoying life.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2073" data-t="2073">And I think one of the things that's really important</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2077" data-t="2077">for individuals right</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2079" data-t="2079">now, it's important for me.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2082" data-t="2082">It's like, I don't wanna have a bad time during the four turning. You only get to go through the four turning once,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2087">34:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2087" data-t="2087">if you're lucky. A lot of history is boring.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2091" data-t="2091">A lot of times, not a lot happens. Not a lot changes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2094" data-t="2094">And you you're living in a point in history that matters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2098" data-t="2098">and is really fucking interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2100" data-t="2100">You can sit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2102" data-t="2102">and monitor the situation seven days a week, and there's always something going on somewhere.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2107">35:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2107" data-t="2107">It's not always like that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2109">35:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2109" data-t="2109">There's no excuse to be bored right now. There's no excuse to be bored during the fourth turning. There's no</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2116" data-t="2116">there is no</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2117" data-t="2117">shortage</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2119" data-t="2119">of high signal podcasts</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2121">35:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2121" data-t="2121">during the fourth turning. I don't think there's an excuse to have a bad time either. I mean, it's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2127" data-t="2127">if you're having a bad time right now, that's your fault.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2131">35:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2131" data-t="2131">As far as the answer Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2133" data-t="2133">There's a lot of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2136" data-t="2136">it's never been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2138" data-t="2138">easier. It's never been more likely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2140" data-t="2140">to be caught up in a bad time,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2144" data-t="2144">but it's also never been</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2146">35:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2146" data-t="2146">more likely and more opportunities to have a good time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2150" data-t="2150">It is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2151" data-t="2151">an abundance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2152" data-t="2152">of times,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2154" data-t="2154">an abundance of announcements,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2156" data-t="2156">an abundance</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2157">35:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2157" data-t="2157">of content,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2159" data-t="2159">You just have to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2161" data-t="2161">use</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2162" data-t="2162">filters that actually work</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2165" data-t="2165">to find a good time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2168" data-t="2168">for your experience. And it's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2173">36:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2173" data-t="2173">it is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2176" data-t="2176">incumbent on you to do this. So of of a deep pull up, I just I probably want Camberdell.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2181" data-t="2181">You know, we talk about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2183" data-t="2183">or it's been talked about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2185" data-t="2185">endlessly at this point. But, like, all the people with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2189" data-t="2189">these radicalizing,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2191">36:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2191" data-t="2191">pupslop, psychosis driven politics</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2194" data-t="2194">that they end up isolating themselves from their family,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2197" data-t="2197">from their community,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2199" data-t="2199">from everyone.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2200" data-t="2200">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2201" data-t="2201">it's seeping in here too, like, this this account,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2204">36:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2204" data-t="2204">Majorian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2206" data-t="2206">ETC says I've been blocked</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2208" data-t="2208">by some major Procore v 30 folks, and I haven't said the first and polite thing to them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2213" data-t="2213">This demonstrates</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2215" data-t="2215">that we are winning.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2216" data-t="2216">Being</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2218">36:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2218" data-t="2218">isolated, blocked, and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2220" data-t="2220">cut off</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2221" data-t="2221">from your community</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2224" data-t="2224">or, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2226" data-t="2226">being the one that does that to your own family and community,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2229" data-t="2229">that is not</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2231">37:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2231" data-t="2231">a demonstration of winning.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2233" data-t="2233">That is losing. You do not want to be isolated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2237" data-t="2237">and cut off from family and community</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2240" data-t="2240">during a fourth turning.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2242" data-t="2242">The the the last thing you want is to be isolated and alone on a in in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2247" data-t="2247">suffering from plexilov psychosis</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2251">37:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2251" data-t="2251">during the fourth turning.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2253" data-t="2253">Guaranteed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2254" data-t="2254">guaranteed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2255" data-t="2255">way</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2256">37:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2256" data-t="2256">to have a bad time. It's it's dangerous and the cost is high.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2260" data-t="2260">Yeah. I'm go I'm glad.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2262" data-t="2262">I think we kinda filter out our our our listeners.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2267" data-t="2267">I don't think they could tolerate pop slop. I think that's why they come here and they listen to this show.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2272" data-t="2272">The people that are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2276" data-t="2276">it it it's funny because they the the people that just are are addicted to</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2281">38:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2281" data-t="2281">it hate our show. They don't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2284" data-t="2284">get it. They don't get it at all.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2287" data-t="2287">Like, mister Huddle.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2289" data-t="2289">What a fucking idiot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2291" data-t="2291">I had to kick him off,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2293" data-t="2293">my Twitter space</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2294">38:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2294" data-t="2294">or our Twitter space on Friday. He he was up there. He was complaining. He goes, this page is gay because it's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2301" data-t="2301">too formal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2303" data-t="2303">It's an organized</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2304" data-t="2304">piece. It's like, he just wants there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2307" data-t="2307">to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2308" data-t="2308">he wants Flex love chaos.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2310">38:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2310" data-t="2310">Yeah. He wants flex love chaos.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2313" data-t="2313">He wants tomer to come up,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2317" data-t="2317">and he he feels like he's dunking on tomer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2320" data-t="2320">But you you and I were having a conversation yesterday.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2323" data-t="2323">What what did you call it?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2325" data-t="2325">Sea lion</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2327">38:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2327" data-t="2327">sea lioning.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2329">38:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2329" data-t="2329">Yeah. I wanted I wanted to talk about sea lioning. Sea lioning</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2332" data-t="2332">is a term,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2334" data-t="2334">let you let me let's let's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2337" data-t="2337">define it here quickly. If if it's not, there's not like, it's not in the Webster's dictionary,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2342" data-t="2342">but it is a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2345" data-t="2345">a conventionally</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2347">39:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2347" data-t="2347">accepted term. It's a type of trolling, a type</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2351" data-t="2351">of chaotic discourse.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2354" data-t="2354">Kinda like post way too much. It's so hard. Okay. Here we go.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2358" data-t="2358">Sea lioning is when an uninvited stranger</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2361" data-t="2361">pops into your conversation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2363" data-t="2363">and peppers you with unsolicited</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2365">39:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2365" data-t="2365">and insincere questions.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2367" data-t="2367">The sea lion politely demands evidence for even the most mundane</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2372" data-t="2372">or self evident statements</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2374" data-t="2374">and insist that you justify your opinions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2377" data-t="2377">until he is satisfied,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2379" data-t="2379">which is never</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2380">39:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2380" data-t="2380">since he's asking in bad faith.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2382" data-t="2382">The sea lion is basically the self appointed, quote, unquote, good cop in an interrogation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2388" data-t="2388">for a crime he did not commit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2391" data-t="2391">And the other explanation here, which I thought was helpful,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2395" data-t="2395">it is rhetorically,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2397" data-t="2397">sea lion infuses</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2398">39:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2398" data-t="2398">persistent questioning,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2400" data-t="2400">often about basic information,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2402" data-t="2402">information not easily found elsewhere or unrelated or tangential points</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2407" data-t="2407">with loudly insisted upon commitment to reasonable debate.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2411" data-t="2411">It disguises itself as a sincere attempt to learn and communicate.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2416" data-t="2416">Sea lioning thus works both to exhaust a target's patience,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2420">40:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2420" data-t="2420">attention,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2421" data-t="2421">and communicative effort,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2423" data-t="2423">and to portray the target as unreasonable.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2426" data-t="2426">While the questions of the sea lion may seem innocent,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2430" data-t="2430">they are intended maliciously</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2432" data-t="2432">and have harmful consequences.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2434">40:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2434" data-t="2434">And when,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2435" data-t="2435">you know, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2437" data-t="2437">take these,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2438" data-t="2438">you know, like, one sea lion, but you you you multiply them and you you have thousands of of people with plebs, slop, psychosis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2447" data-t="2447">who are sea lioning</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2450" data-t="2450">other people in the community.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2452">40:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2452" data-t="2452">It is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2454" data-t="2454">a form of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2456" data-t="2456">a DDoS attack on people's time and attention. It sounds like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2461">41:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2461" data-t="2461">Chris Guida is getting, described right now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2465">41:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2465" data-t="2465">Chris Guida is a is has put on a master class</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2469" data-t="2469">of sea lining,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2471">41:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2471" data-t="2471">the past few months for sure. Yeah. These these guys like mister Huddl, this is what they,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2477" data-t="2477">they think they're they're mental giants</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2480" data-t="2480">for sitting on Twitter spaces and arguing with these guys,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2484" data-t="2484">the sea lion.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2486">41:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2486" data-t="2486">Yeah. Listen. If you if you are unemployed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2489" data-t="2489">and just like to sit on the Internet smoking weed all day and argue with clubs with club slot psychosis,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2495" data-t="2495">and you have that time, you have that energy?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2498" data-t="2498">I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2499" data-t="2499">free country,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2501" data-t="2501">they would should</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2502">41:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2502" data-t="2502">have at it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2503" data-t="2503">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2506" data-t="2506">the bugle will not be hosting spaces</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2508" data-t="2508">and inviting sea lions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2511" data-t="2511">to come</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2512" data-t="2512">yap yap yap,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2513">41:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2513" data-t="2513">and and and repeat their goo goo goo goo plebslot at us</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2517" data-t="2517">when we're trying to have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2520" data-t="2520">a productive discussion and we're trying to celebrate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2525" data-t="2525">a protocol that</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2527">42:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2527" data-t="2527">many believe could be on its last days. No. We just we've got better things to do, and and I think our listeners have better things to do than that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2538" data-t="2538">I got my first Madex,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2539">42:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2539" data-t="2539">necklace this week. That was pretty good. Is it is it is it the Madex logo?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2544" data-t="2544">Is that three d printed?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2547">42:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2547" data-t="2547">No. It's, like, done in silver.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2550" data-t="2550">It's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2552" data-t="2552">with the Silver's at a logo.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2554">42:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2554" data-t="2554">Silver's at an all time high, so that's extra valuable now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2559">42:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2559" data-t="2559">Yeah. Yeah. I figured I would hedge.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2563" data-t="2563">It's kind of funny because, you know, you buy the the they're kind of expensive. Like, it it's definitely,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2569" data-t="2569">more than the spot price</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2571" data-t="2571">for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2572" data-t="2572">silver</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2573" data-t="2573">for the amount of it. But I feel like, you know, if you huddle a made x silver necklace for long enough</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2580">43:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2580" data-t="2580">It's kinda like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2582" data-t="2582">it's kinda like a an ordinal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2585" data-t="2585">NFT</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2586" data-t="2586">on silver</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2588" data-t="2588">instead of Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2590">43:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2590" data-t="2590">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2591" data-t="2591">Well, I mean, this is what you can do. Like, if if you you have,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2596" data-t="2596">enough made x necklaces, if if the Internet ever goes down and you temporarily can't use Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2603" data-t="2603">you can use made x necklaces as a medium of exchange.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2606">43:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2606" data-t="2606">It's like I'm sure be I'm sure people would accept that as a as a payment to get into their Citadel.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2612" data-t="2612">A made x silver necklace. Yes. You can seek refuge here.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2617" data-t="2617">It's it's it's a it's a good hedge. It's a good</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2620" data-t="2620">emergency,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2621" data-t="2621">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2622" data-t="2622">opportunity or, or or tool asset during a foreturning. That's for sure. Agreed.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2628">43:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2628" data-t="2628">It's one of the things I like about Madex as an artist is he's not a plop slop artist. So there there there's a handful of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2635" data-t="2635">artists out there that are are just plep slop artists. I'm I'm starting to get more and more frustrated with the Osanoa Gold because he's sea lion.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2643" data-t="2643">He he's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2645" data-t="2645">a sea lion, but he's also just he's just putting out slop.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2650" data-t="2650">It it every other tweet</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2653" data-t="2653">is a virtue signal. Every other tweet is a purity test. And it's just important to note that that that shiny,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2660">44:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2660" data-t="2660">high quality</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2662" data-t="2662">cellophane</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2664" data-t="2664">art</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2665" data-t="2665">can still be pupslop. It's really more about the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2669" data-t="2669">the essence, the vibe, the spiritual</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2672" data-t="2672">underpinning</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2673">44:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2673" data-t="2673">of the art that makes it pep slop, not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2677" data-t="2677">the tactical execution</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2680" data-t="2680">of the of the art itself,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2682" data-t="2682">you know, in in some cases.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2686">44:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2686" data-t="2686">Well, if you look at any of Matrix's art, it it takes a lot of time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2690" data-t="2690">and energy to put in. I think this is kinda like what one of the clear to terminals of what is plug swap is is just low effort. There's not a lot of thought put into it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2700" data-t="2700">It's like we're gonna put out a low effort, low thought out product</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2706" data-t="2706">for people that are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2708" data-t="2708">putting low effort,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2710" data-t="2710">low thinking</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2712">45:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2712" data-t="2712">into their lives. Slop recognizes slop. Well,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2717">45:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2717" data-t="2717">I mean, the Plebs Slop discussion,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2720" data-t="2720">the topic is not.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2722" data-t="2722">There'll be more on this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2724" data-t="2724">in the coming weeks</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2726" data-t="2726">as we navigate the fourth turning.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2729" data-t="2729">But</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2730">45:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2730" data-t="2730">I think, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2732" data-t="2732">maybe my last my last comment on this episode</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2736" data-t="2736">regarding PlutSlop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2738" data-t="2738">is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2739" data-t="2739">and it goes back to what I was talking about earlier</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2742" data-t="2742">about the bullying,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2743">45:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2743" data-t="2743">the strong arming, the blackmailing, the CCM.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2747" data-t="2747">I just want it to be known that I will not tolerate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2750" data-t="2750">anyone trying to blackmail</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2753" data-t="2753">business owners,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2754" data-t="2754">individuals,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2756" data-t="2756">people in my</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2758">45:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2758" data-t="2758">social graph.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2759" data-t="2759">I will not tolerate people trying to blackmail them with CCM on Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2763" data-t="2763">to get them to buy their club slot. If I see it I know I I I a few episodes ago,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2769" data-t="2769">I I pledged to disengage,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2772" data-t="2772">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2773" data-t="2773">I think that it is important</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2776">46:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2776" data-t="2776">to stand up</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2778" data-t="2778">and show</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2779" data-t="2779">support</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2781" data-t="2781">and stand behind and show solidarity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2783" data-t="2783">with devs, business owners,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2786" data-t="2786">wallet developers, podcasters,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2788">46:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2788" data-t="2788">anyone</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2789" data-t="2789">who feels or is targeted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2792" data-t="2792">by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2794" data-t="2794">the, you know, the the irony of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2797" data-t="2797">calling core</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2798" data-t="2798">woke</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2800">46:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2800" data-t="2800">when it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2802" data-t="2802">when it's this crowd that is using the woke,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2806" data-t="2806">tactics</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2807" data-t="2807">and the, you know, the methods of Saul Alinsky,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2810" data-t="2810">as the boomers recall it during the Obama years,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2813" data-t="2813">to try to cancel,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2815">46:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2815" data-t="2815">you know, Bitcoin companies because they they run a different version</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2820" data-t="2820">of a node client. It's a we're not buying your plug slot, and there's no amount of, intimidation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2825" data-t="2825">tactics</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2826" data-t="2826">that you can deploy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2828">47:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2828" data-t="2828">I will not put up with it. I just I I wanted to I wanted to bring up something real quick.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2834" data-t="2834">Do you see all these pictures circulating of Justin Trudeau,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2838" data-t="2838">with Katy Perry?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2840">47:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2840" data-t="2840">I did see that. Looks like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2843" data-t="2843">I don't know if it's a troll. It looks like they're very low quality pictures.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2848" data-t="2848">He's, like, grabbing her butt,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2850" data-t="2850">and people are yelling at her in the comments and she seems to be</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2856">47:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2856" data-t="2856">not she just seems to be not tolerating any sea lions in her reply. Yeah. She she's owning it. She's she's saying if I I wanna bang a gay communist,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2864" data-t="2864">this is my right to. She's right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2867" data-t="2867">How do how do you think marriage works in communism? They don't believe in,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2872" data-t="2872">private property. They don't believe in property rights in general,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2877" data-t="2877">which</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2878" data-t="2878">tends to mean they don't believe in, you know, any sort of, like, commitment. Is is it just when you have sex with everybody?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2884">48:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2884" data-t="2884">Yeah. I mean, Justin himself,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2886" data-t="2886">many people believe that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2889" data-t="2889">he is the son</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2891" data-t="2891">of Fidel Castro. There's a lot of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2894" data-t="2894">resemblance in their facial features,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2898" data-t="2898">and it, you know, it is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2900">48:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2900" data-t="2900">well known, well documented that his father,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2905" data-t="2905">often, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2907" data-t="2907">loaned his wife out as collateral to other countries</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2910" data-t="2910">like Cuba</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2913" data-t="2913">to have sex with their leaders,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2915" data-t="2915">you know, for</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2918">48:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2918" data-t="2918">high yield loans</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2920" data-t="2920">to the Canadian government. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2923" data-t="2923">communist deal, they they share their spouses with with other communist.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2928" data-t="2928">But before we go</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2930" data-t="2930">into</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2931" data-t="2931">the booths, I know we have to wrap up quickly.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2936">48:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2936" data-t="2936">Bitcoin Magazine censored</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2939" data-t="2939">their</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2940" data-t="2940">highly anticipated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2942" data-t="2942">lightning issue, which only came out a few months ago. It's completely unavailable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2947" data-t="2947">on the website.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2948" data-t="2948">They did not sell out according to inside sources,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2951">49:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2951" data-t="2951">and rumor is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2953" data-t="2953">they censored it because your article about the the user experience, the revolution not having good UX</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2960" data-t="2960">was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2962" data-t="2962">well, let's put it this way. It wasn't Plebslot,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2964" data-t="2964">and it challenged people's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2967" data-t="2967">you know, notions about Lightning being the most private and most,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2974">49:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2974" data-t="2974">most transaction throughput of any of the competitors.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2977" data-t="2977">And I guess the one thing I forgot to mention on the the the Plebslop topic, even though it's already wrapped it up, was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2984" data-t="2984">the one thing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2986" data-t="2986">club slot peddlers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2988" data-t="2988">hate the most</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2990" data-t="2990">is hearing the truth. If you tell the truth about them,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2994">49:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2994" data-t="2994">about their club slot,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2997" data-t="2997">they really lash out. They really hate it. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3000" data-t="3000">I kinda think that that was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3002" data-t="3002">perhaps the motivation for censoring your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3006" data-t="3006">an entire</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3007" data-t="3007">issue,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3010">50:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3010" data-t="3010">because it, invoked some</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3013" data-t="3013">some harsh emotions that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3015" data-t="3015">the user experience on the frontier might be a little bit hard.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3020">50:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3020" data-t="3020">I don't know if it was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3022" data-t="3022">necessarily because of my article. But, yeah, it is interesting. I'm looking at the store right now. They on the graphic on the top, they have the lightning edition</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3031" data-t="3031">from the center,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3033" data-t="3033">but then they removed it from the store, so you can't it doesn't look like you can purchase it anymore.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3038" data-t="3038">And interesting enough, the the issue that they released directly after was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3043" data-t="3043">the finance issue with, the picture of sailor on the front. I don't I don't know if it was necessarily because of my article.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3050">50:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3050" data-t="3050">Well, they had them clarified either way, and that is how conspiracies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3054" data-t="3054">brew is when there's no transparency.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3056" data-t="3056">So there's only one app, but there's only one it edition</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3060" data-t="3060">of the, Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3062" data-t="3062">magazines</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3063" data-t="3063">that have been put out in the past few years that is not available for sale, and it's the one you were featured in. So</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3071">51:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3071" data-t="3071">Well, Well, I'm also featured in some other ones. I I don't think they took those down. But yeah. I mean, so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3076" data-t="3076">they put out essentially a paper Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3080" data-t="3080">edition right after</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3084" data-t="3084">the lightning edition.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3085" data-t="3085">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3086" data-t="3086">my theory</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3088">51:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3088" data-t="3088">is that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3091" data-t="3091">they just have determined as an organization that paper Bitcoin is the proper way to scale Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3097" data-t="3097">That's my going theory. They say, okay. Well, you know, maybe Greasers on to something here. Lightning,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3103" data-t="3103">the UX is hard.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3105" data-t="3105">So instead of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3107" data-t="3107">promoting ideas of, like, you should embrace the hard UX</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3112">51:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3112" data-t="3112">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3113" data-t="3113">the the revolution won't have good UX. They you know, this is what PodConf does. They they want</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3118" data-t="3118">the revolution to have good UX. They want people to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3123" data-t="3123">consume the plug slop. They want people to take the easier path. They say,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3128" data-t="3128">don't waste your time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3130" data-t="3130">investing</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3131">52:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3131" data-t="3131">into your life</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3133" data-t="3133">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3134" data-t="3134">preparing for the fourth turning. Just just buy the paper Bitcoin. It's easier.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3138" data-t="3138">Just k y c.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3140" data-t="3140">K y c,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3142" data-t="3142">listen to Plebslop,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3143">52:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3143" data-t="3143">buy paper Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3146" data-t="3146">That's the path forward.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3149" data-t="3149">Because the the thing is, like, Podkoff doesn't really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3153" data-t="3153">make any money off of people using their brains and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3157" data-t="3157">taking care of themselves.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3159" data-t="3159">They want</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3161">52:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3161" data-t="3161">you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3162" data-t="3162">as a consumer, as a content consumer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3165" data-t="3165">to be dependent on them. They want you to dump all their money all your money</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3171" data-t="3171">into</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3173" data-t="3173">their conference sponsors, into the people that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3178" data-t="3178">get the most views if you if you put them with an open mouth</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3182">53:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3182" data-t="3182">on your YouTube thumbnail. So that that I mean, that's my theory on why they they took it off. They said, oh, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3190" data-t="3190">we're not gonna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3192" data-t="3192">like, if we if if our readers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3197" data-t="3197">actually start learning how to use Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3200" data-t="3200">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3202" data-t="3202">use it in commerce and and and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3205">53:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3205" data-t="3205">wait in they become pioneers. If the plaids become pioneers, we lose our base.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3211" data-t="3211">We're just not gonna be able to to make as much money. We're not gonna get as many YouTube views. So, you know, if a plug becomes a pioneer, they're not sitting there clicking on open mouth thumbnails anymore.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3223" data-t="3223">They're doing better things with their time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3225" data-t="3225">They're starting their own Bitcoin podcast and talking about things that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3230" data-t="3230">they actually think about.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3232" data-t="3232">Like, this is something I really enjoyed your episode with, Goomba.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3237">53:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3237" data-t="3237">If you didn't get a chance to listen to that, you can, if if you subscribe,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3242" data-t="3242">it's behind the paywall, but it was a really good episode talking about how all the podcasts are the same.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3248" data-t="3248">And and this is just the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3251" data-t="3251">the consequences of PodConf.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3255" data-t="3255">It's a it's a it's a self feeding</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3259" data-t="3259">thing. And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3261">54:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3261" data-t="3261">you you really take the the wind out of their sails if you quit being a stupid club and become a pioneer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3268" data-t="3268">It just ruins the party for them. But yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3272" data-t="3272">That that was interesting. I don't I don't know. It it'll be interesting. I we're we're planning on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3279" data-t="3279">it seems like every time I say we're planning on doing something</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3282" data-t="3282">on the show, it either gets delayed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3285" data-t="3285">or doesn't happen.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3287">54:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3287" data-t="3287">Or planning on interviewing one of the four horsemen of Podcom, so it'll be pretty interesting to to ask him why the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3297" data-t="3297">why that addition got taken down.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3301" data-t="3301">We'll hear it from the horse's mouth, so to say, or the horseman's mouth.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3309" data-t="3309">Speaking of pioneers, though, fountain boost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3314" data-t="3314">First boost, we all eat 10021¢.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3317" data-t="3317">Rod, you pupslops</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3318">55:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3318" data-t="3318">spewing fag.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3321" data-t="3321">Do you know that we all eat is one of our biggest all time boosters?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3325" data-t="3325">Is that he's at, like, 470,000</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3329">55:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3329" data-t="3329">sats. I know it's nice to boost 10,000 sats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3333" data-t="3333">I appreciate the boost. I appreciate the comment. It sounds</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3338" data-t="3338">like a negative comment,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3340" data-t="3340">but you just said he's one of our all time bashers. I think we all eat is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3345" data-t="3345">one thing he spends a lot of money on is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3350" data-t="3350">giving he I don't wanna make it, I'll just say he gives a lot of money</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3355">55:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3355" data-t="3355">to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3357" data-t="3357">what he would call,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3359" data-t="3359">you know, a gay person so who knows what he's giving them that money for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3364" data-t="3364">He's traveling a lot. You know, he he maybe he's lonely,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3368" data-t="3368">that he likes to spend money</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3370" data-t="3370">on</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3373">56:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3373" data-t="3373">club slap spewing bags.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3375">56:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3375" data-t="3375">Yeah. That's interesting. So what does it say about somebody?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3380" data-t="3380">They think somebody's gay, and they just keep on shoveling them, foulin' booze. Bold. You know, they they can say anything,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3387">56:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3387" data-t="3387">but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3388" data-t="3388">they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3390" data-t="3390">when you speak with your wallet, your Bitcoin wallet,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3393" data-t="3393">that reveals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3395" data-t="3395">your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3396" data-t="3396">true intent, your true character.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3400">56:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3400" data-t="3400">I'm a retarded pleb. And while you're on the interstate commuting to work, I'm behind the wheel of my 6,000 pound SUV doing 85 while staring at my phone checking the price of Bitcoin and looking at plebslop.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3415" data-t="3415">World's highest IQ, of course, he's bullish.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3422" data-t="3422">And if you don't have the right insurance, one breaking tweet by Pete Rizzo could lead to a t bone and not the type that goes with eggs. So get car insurance from First Amendment Mutual. First Amendment Mutual protects you from the mayhem caused by retarded plebs.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3443">57:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3443" data-t="3443">Oh,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3444" data-t="3444">speaking of it's just reminded me.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3447" data-t="3447">I need to make a retraction</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3450" data-t="3450">from last week's episode.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3453" data-t="3453">Rod, you're correct. Hunter Beast Yeah. Is gay.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3457">57:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3457" data-t="3457">That's right. I knew it. I knew it. I mean, well, we we talked about the tweet that made me,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3464" data-t="3464">think that and it turned out to be kinda like a cryptic, like, maybe he was talking about like rust code. But, while he may have been talking about Rust Code,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3475" data-t="3475">he is gay. Yeah. He's got a husband, not a wife. Have the Nazis figured this out yet? I don't think so because they would be hooting and hollering if they knew that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3485">58:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3485" data-t="3485">They would definitely be against his,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3488" data-t="3488">Bitcoin improvement proposal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3491" data-t="3491">Yeah. He wants to come on the podcast, so I think we're gonna get him on the podcast here pretty soon. I told him sometime in November would probably be a good time.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3498">58:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3498" data-t="3498">Oh, yeah. Absolutely. That'd be great.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3500">58:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3500" data-t="3500">Yeah. I can't wait to ask him if,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3503" data-t="3503">if people should take his,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3505" data-t="3505">computer code seriously because he has rust in his bio and is,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3509">58:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3509" data-t="3509">has a husband. We ain't in a in a gay relationship,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3512" data-t="3512">a gay marriage, who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3516" data-t="3516">there's two husbands.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3518" data-t="3518">So which husband is the node runner?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3522" data-t="3522">We'll have to ask him that. We'll save. We will</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3526" data-t="3526">There's no need to speculate because we will get the answer soon.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3531">58:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3531" data-t="3531">Well, I think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3532" data-t="3532">the the interesting thing about gay relationships is is both the husbands could be note runners.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3539">58:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3539" data-t="3539">That's $1,800</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3541" data-t="3541">for t star nines.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3544" data-t="3544">Yeah. But You really only need one.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3547">59:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3547" data-t="3547">They</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3548" data-t="3548">make, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3549" data-t="3549">20 to 25%</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3551" data-t="3551">more than</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3553" data-t="3553">a woman. So it that's not really Good point. That one would expect. Yep.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3558">59:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3558" data-t="3558">Yep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3559" data-t="3559">Well, we'll find out.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3562" data-t="3562">Move next one,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3563" data-t="3563">ten thousand sats</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3566" data-t="3566">from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3567" data-t="3567">Avi Burra of, Plug Chain Radio,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3570">59:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3570" data-t="3570">one of our favorite podcasts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3572" data-t="3572">We've been on there. Both of us been on there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3575" data-t="3575">individually</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3575">together multiple times. Love those guys. Avi,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3581" data-t="3581">he he he says Rust is woke, use Haskell instead.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3585" data-t="3585">And then he's, promoting</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3586">59:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3586" data-t="3586">his, his documentary or his his film Finding Home, Prague Now Live on IndieHub,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3592" data-t="3592">so check it out. And I'm pretty sure IndieHub</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3595" data-t="3595">is kinda like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3596" data-t="3596">it's kind of like Netflix</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3599" data-t="3599">it's a loose analogy but it's like Netflix,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3602" data-t="3602">but you stream lightnings you stream sats</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3605">1:00:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3605" data-t="3605">to to view to stream the content</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3608" data-t="3608">so I'm gonna head over and check that out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3611" data-t="3611">probably</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3612" data-t="3612">today. But, to back to his point, Rust is Woke. Use Haskell instead.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3617" data-t="3617">I disagree.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3618" data-t="3618">I think Haskell also sucks.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3621">1:00:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3621" data-t="3621">Actually, I'd probably prefer Rust to Haskell,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3624" data-t="3624">but it doesn't surprise me.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3626" data-t="3626">You can even see it in his his,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3629" data-t="3629">his fountain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3631" data-t="3631">his nostril profile picture.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3633" data-t="3633">Javi is,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3635">1:00:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3635" data-t="3635">he he he has like a hipster Australian crocodile Dundee cowboy hat that he's always wearing. It's kind of a, you know, he's a hip scene, you know, Nostril. Nostril he's not Nostril only, but he focuses on Nostril.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3648" data-t="3648">Bit of a hipster. Haskell is a hipster.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3651" data-t="3651">Rust is gay. Haskell's hipster.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3653" data-t="3653">And, honestly, I think hipsters are worse</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3656" data-t="3656">than</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3657" data-t="3657">than the alternative. So</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3660">1:00:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3660" data-t="3660">I and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3661" data-t="3661">don't forget Haskell is what,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3664" data-t="3664">Charles Hoskinson used</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3666" data-t="3666">to develop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3667" data-t="3667">Cardano.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3668" data-t="3668">And that's what that community is built. That's part part of the reason why Cardano sucks and hasn't grown is because nobody knows how to use Haskell. Nobody wants to use Haskell. It's kind of a Silicon Valley hipster language,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3681">1:01:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3681" data-t="3681">but that's, you know, neither here nor there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3684" data-t="3684">But I really appreciate to put his 10,000 stats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3687" data-t="3687">Love Avi, even though he's a hipster.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3690">1:01:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3690" data-t="3690">Yeah. I'm excited to watch the the Finding Home. I I've yet to watch it. It's been on my list.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3696" data-t="3696">I know that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3698" data-t="3698">Noah Grumman and Lahav</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3700" data-t="3700">had,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3701" data-t="3701">their hands on the editing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3703" data-t="3703">process. So I imagine this could be really good. If if you ever see any of Lahav's videos, he's like</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3710">1:01:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3710" data-t="3710">he's easily one of the best,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3713" data-t="3713">video guys</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3715" data-t="3715">in this entire ecosystem.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3718" data-t="3718">He</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3721" data-t="3721">yeah. Absolutely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3722" data-t="3722">next level. So I'd I I'm excited to to watch it. And I know I love Avi.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3728">1:02:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3728" data-t="3728">Gonna get Avi on the show here pretty soon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3732" data-t="3732">in a couple weeks,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3734" data-t="3734">hopefully.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3736" data-t="3736">I feel like it like I said earlier, I feel like every time I say we're gonna do something, I just jinx it. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3743" data-t="3743">fingers crossed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3745" data-t="3745">I'm excited for that one. Thanks for the boost, Avi.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3749">1:02:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3749" data-t="3749">Bubba</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3750" data-t="3750">eight thousand and eight says, if I laughed any harder at the show, I don't think I'd be as confused as I am.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3757" data-t="3757">Which last time the doctor checked, he said,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3760" data-t="3760">well, that's one for the record books. Thanks for the shout out.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3764" data-t="3764">Is that how kids say it these days? I'm so unhip. I'm probably hip.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3770">1:02:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3770" data-t="3770">But that too shall pass. I think you're more I think Bubba's more probably gonna need a new hip</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3778" data-t="3778">replacement surgery</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3779" data-t="3779">than he is, like, hip cool, like hipster, like like Avi.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3783" data-t="3783">But that is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3785" data-t="3785">how</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3787" data-t="3787">well,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3788">1:03:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3788" data-t="3788">the kids these days don't say that, but, the kids</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3791" data-t="3791">thirty years ago used to say that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3795">1:03:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3795" data-t="3795">Bubba's holding it down for the boomer generation. Like, I know a lot of young people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3800" data-t="3800">they're frustrated with the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3801" data-t="3801">boomers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3803" data-t="3803">But there's some good boomers out there. Like, Bubba's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3806" data-t="3806">Bubba's out there. You got, you know, Ron Paul's okay.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3811" data-t="3811">He's just okay. But, you know, there's some other great boomers out there.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3816">1:03:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3816" data-t="3816">I think coach Paul is actually too old to be a boomer. I think he's a silent gen. You know? But, yeah, we we talked about this. Bob was a great boomer. We love Dumbo.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3825" data-t="3825">I think if you listen to Uncoverable Misfits, some of the maybe the next episode</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3830" data-t="3830">that they put out. I think you will enjoy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3834" data-t="3834">I think you there will be a Bubba reference,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3837" data-t="3837">hopefully.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3838" data-t="3838">Listen to it anyway, but,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3840">1:04:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3840" data-t="3840">hopefully, the Bubba</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3842" data-t="3842">you'll you'll you'll know what I'm talking about. It should it should be good.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3845">1:04:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3845" data-t="3845">Yeah. It's probably on the next action news. That'll be a good episode.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3848" data-t="3848">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3850" data-t="3850">yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3851" data-t="3851">On</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3853" data-t="3853">the on the boomer front, like, you know, there's guys like business cat out there. They're really grumpy with the boomers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3860" data-t="3860">They they they have these blanket statements of, like, oh, all the boomers suck.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3865">1:04:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3865" data-t="3865">And, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3867" data-t="3867">it I get, like, a lot of young people feel that way.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3871" data-t="3871">You know what I mean? Like, they're they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3874" data-t="3874">this is one of the problems with, you know, consuming plug swap is that it just skews</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3880" data-t="3880">your view of the world.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3883" data-t="3883">You're you you say that all</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3885">1:04:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3885" data-t="3885">people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3886" data-t="3886">suck in this demographic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3888" data-t="3888">or group, you know, and you're you're feeling desperate. You don't wanna take any self accountability,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3895" data-t="3895">and you find look for a scapegoat.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3897" data-t="3897">While there's a bunch of shitty boomers out there gambling away and I get why young people are mad. You know? They're they're slaving away.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3904" data-t="3904">They're trying to afford their taxes. Some people are working second, third jobs just to be able to afford their taxes, and a big chunk of those taxes are going to Social Security. And they're watching these boomers</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3915">1:05:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3915" data-t="3915">take their Social Security checks and gamble it away as slot machines.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3920" data-t="3920">But you gotta remember, there's people like Boba out there in the world</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3924" data-t="3924">that are the good boomers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3926" data-t="3926">that have been based. That it that red at was shrugged</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3929" data-t="3929">probably 50 times before you were even born.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3933" data-t="3933">People have been seen through the bullshit in the psy ops</span></span></p> +