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Being able to transact adversarially</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-13">0:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-13" data-t="13">without leaving an on chain footprint.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-16" data-t="16">Some call us ghosts of the blockchain.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-18">0:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-18" data-t="18">No UTXO gets left behind.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-21" data-t="21">You have to be able to persevere</span> <span class="cue" id="t-23" data-t="23">no matter what the transaction fee costs.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-26">0:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-26" data-t="26">Failure is not an option. You have to be able to listen to twenty one thousand hours of Bitcoin podcasts</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-33">0:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-33" data-t="33">and still want to listen to more. There's no such thing as a day without adversarial Bitcoin transaction.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-39" data-t="39">Our way of life relies on an elite group of cypher punks to able to get into a block</span> <span class="cue" id="t-44" data-t="44">no matter the fees and strategically exchange value for value.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-49" data-t="49">The US Space Force protects our interests in places where jets,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-53" data-t="53">ships,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-54" data-t="54">and combat boots can't go.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-57">0:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-57" data-t="57">Orange berets preserve our ability to leave our digital footprint in history anytime</span> <span class="cue" id="t-62" data-t="62">on the only blockchain that matters.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-67" data-t="67">Do you have what it takes to be a US Space Force orange beret?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-73">1:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kaley Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-73" data-t="73">On this week's episode of the Bugle Weekly, credentialed journalists Rod Palmer and Richard Grieser discuss listening to forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts a week, the Swan lawsuit, and Israel stimulating the American economy by starting a second war.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-87" data-t="87">If you are driving while listening to this podcast, make sure to unbuckle your seat belt and pour yourself a glass of whiskey. This is Kaley Welch, and you are listening to the Bugle Weekly, the most thermodynamically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-96" data-t="96">sound podcast in the world.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-99">1:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-99" data-t="99">Yeah. Welcome back to the Bugle Weekly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-101" data-t="101">I'm Rod Palmer here again with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-105" data-t="105">the decreaser.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-106" data-t="106">It's been crazy week. Dick, what are you thinking about?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-110" data-t="110">How,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-111" data-t="111">how bullish are you feeling right now?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-114">1:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-114" data-t="114">Feeling pretty bullish. We're getting into</span> <span class="cue" id="t-117" data-t="117">pretty close to October.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-120" data-t="120">What was the name? October, right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-123" data-t="123">October and then Pumfember.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-126">2:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-126" data-t="126">There you go, yeah. September's been,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-129" data-t="129">September's been bullish but it's usually a tough one but everybody knows</span> <span class="cue" id="t-134" data-t="134">the bull market kicks off in October. So. Yeah, I mean, I think, 2,000,000,000,000</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-139">2:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-139" data-t="139">USDT is in play for sure.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-142">2:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-142" data-t="142">Absolutely. By the end of the year, honestly, the way things are going, the economy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-146" data-t="146">is really at stimulus. They're getting stimulus in China, Middle East,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-150" data-t="150">Japan,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-152" data-t="152">Canada,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-153" data-t="153">Europe.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-155">2:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-155" data-t="155">It's it's an exciting time. Yeah. As we're recording this, Bitcoin is trading at 65,700</span> <span class="cue" id="t-162" data-t="162">USDT.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-163" data-t="163">I don't think we're ever seeing 58 ks again. I do. I feel like we're gonna see 58 ks again this week just because you said that. I think you've cursed us. Ain't that bullshit enough for almost an October? Well, I don't know. It seems like every time somebody tweets, we'll never see this number again. We immediately go back down. So I feel like that's like not a positive way, but if you just make like really bullish price predictions, it just tends to go up.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-187">3:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-187" data-t="187">That's fair. That's fair. What to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-190" data-t="190">It's been kind of a crazy week. What, what are you thinking about?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-194" data-t="194">What's happened since we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-197" data-t="197">podcasted last?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-199">3:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-199" data-t="199">Well, I I so I took my wife dress shopping.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-203" data-t="203">We have a family event</span> <span class="cue" id="t-206" data-t="206">that requires wearing nice stuff. And, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-209" data-t="209">women can never wear the same thing twice,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-212" data-t="212">to those types of events. So she needed a a new dress.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-215" data-t="215">And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-217">3:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-217" data-t="217">I forgot my headphones, so I was unable to listen to Bitcoin podcasts. And so I spent</span> <span class="cue" id="t-222" data-t="222">six</span> <span class="cue" id="t-223" data-t="223">sitting around</span> <span class="cue" id="t-224" data-t="224">six to eight hours, I can't remember specifically,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-227" data-t="227">rush shopping with my wife, where most of it, I was not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-231" data-t="231">doing anything. I could have been listening to Bitcoin podcasts. And so that was pretty,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-236">3:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-236" data-t="236">that was an unfortunate mistake.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-238" data-t="238">And I know there's a lot of people out there that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-241" data-t="241">you know, really struggle to get their forty hours a week in.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-246" data-t="246">But you just need to look for opportunities</span> <span class="cue" id="t-248" data-t="248">like that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-250" data-t="250">in order to be able to,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-253">4:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-253" data-t="253">get your hours in and if I had done that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-256" data-t="256">it would have been like almost</span> <span class="cue" id="t-258" data-t="258">half work day, you know, eight hours of Bitcoin podcast.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-262">4:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-262" data-t="262">Right, that is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-265" data-t="265">how a lot of people have learned to stay efficient and how they have learned to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-270" data-t="270">put in the work necessary to afford to be able to pay taxes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-274" data-t="274">is you have to be more efficient with your time. Like everybody's the same twenty four hours in a day,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-280" data-t="280">but if you can turn like babysitting your kids,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-284" data-t="284">church,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-286">4:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-286" data-t="286">going dress shopping with your wife,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-288" data-t="288">your commute,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-289" data-t="289">you know, some, some meeting at work, that's not interesting. If you use that time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-295" data-t="295">to listen to Big Boy podcasts instead,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-297" data-t="297">it's like you're putting in, especially if you listen at like 1.5</span> <span class="cue" id="t-300" data-t="300">speed,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-301">5:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-301" data-t="301">you can you can get in more hours, more than twenty four hours in a day, you could get, you know, up to, you know, thirty, thirty six to forty two hours of podcast in a day. If you just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-313" data-t="313">are more efficient with your time. So I</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-317">5:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-317" data-t="317">don't know.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-319" data-t="319">Kinda considering our, our listeners' time, I wonder if we should start podcasting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-325" data-t="325">at 1.5</span> <span class="cue" id="t-327" data-t="327">speed,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-328" data-t="328">help them achieve their goals a little bit quicker. Like, how much I think off the</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-333">5:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-333" data-t="333">I think that is a mistake.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-335" data-t="335">I think Yeah. The best Bitcoin podcasters,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-339" data-t="339">especially when they're podcasting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-340" data-t="340">they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-342" data-t="342">don't think about the concept or the value of time. Like why else would they be podcasting, right? If they just don't understand the value of time, but that's you don't want to understand the value of your listeners time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-354" data-t="354">because that person isn't they could be listening</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-358">5:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-358" data-t="358">years, months in the future</span> <span class="cue" id="t-360" data-t="360">in a different country, in a different just a different era.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-364" data-t="364">The value of time you if you don't wanna try to predict the value of time for your listener in the future, you you wanna let them choose the value of their time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-374" data-t="374">and how much they listen to you and at what speed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-377" data-t="377">If you are a good enough podcaster,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-380" data-t="380">you will they will want to</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-382">6:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-382" data-t="382">consume</span> <span class="cue" id="t-383" data-t="383">more of their time listening to your insights and so they'll have to turn it up to 1.5.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-388" data-t="388">If you're not that good of a podcaster,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-391" data-t="391">they might wanna listen slowly so they can absorb what you're trying to say.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-396">6:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-396" data-t="396">What if we slow it down then?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-398" data-t="398">And so, like, 1.5</span> <span class="cue" id="t-401" data-t="401">is actually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-403" data-t="403">one. Like, how much, like, heroin or alcohol? Like, what what would be the best substance to, like, really slow us down</span> <span class="cue" id="t-410" data-t="410">in order to allow that to happen?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-414">6:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-414" data-t="414">I don't know. I think that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-417" data-t="417">at least from my perspective, our</span> <span class="cue" id="t-420" data-t="420">the amount of podcast hours that we've listened to in our lifetime,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-425" data-t="425">We have a time preference that's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-427" data-t="427">much lower than most people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-429" data-t="429">so we have a lot of extra time</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-432">7:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-432" data-t="432">to podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-435" data-t="435">And when you have such a low time preference like this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-438" data-t="438">it's just you can cover such</span> <span class="cue" id="t-441" data-t="441">abstract</span> <span class="cue" id="t-442" data-t="442">high level concepts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-444" data-t="444">It does take the listener</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-446">7:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-446" data-t="446">maybe multiple listens, multiple</span> <span class="cue" id="t-449" data-t="449">slow down the speed so they can absorb it all because it's a little bit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-453" data-t="453">more advanced that they can understand. Well,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-455">7:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-455" data-t="455">at the beginning of the episode,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-458" data-t="458">we played a recruitment</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-461">7:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-461" data-t="461">ad for, the Orange Berets.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-464">7:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-464" data-t="464">I'm not sure if you wanted to talk about that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-466">7:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-466" data-t="466">No. I just think it's notable that the Space Force has decided to add, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-472" data-t="472">or they've got they've launched an elite. It's like the Navy SEALs or the Army Rangers, the Army Green Berets, the Delta Force.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-480" data-t="480">It's that version of cyberspace,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-483" data-t="483">cyberpunks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-484" data-t="484">And it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-485" data-t="485">to be able to be so good at using Bitcoin and to have such a good understanding that they've the minimum</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-492">8:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-492" data-t="492">to get in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-493" data-t="493">is twenty one thousand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-494" data-t="494">hours of Bitcoin podcasts. So when you get that much</span> <span class="cue" id="t-499" data-t="499">podcast hours in, your time preference becomes so low</span> <span class="cue" id="t-503" data-t="503">that you can manage any situation. You transact adversarially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-508" data-t="508">and stay</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-509">8:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-509" data-t="509">calm. When</span> <span class="cue" id="t-511" data-t="511">you have that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-512" data-t="512">an elite professional force of people with that low time preference,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-516" data-t="516">it's gonna be very hard for like North Korea or, you know, hackers, Russian hackers and bots to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-522" data-t="522">get past</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-524">8:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-524" data-t="524">forces like that. How do you track the hours listened to? How do you make sure that people have twenty one thousand hours?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-532">8:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-532" data-t="532">I think that they've got some sort of device that they they use that Neuralink implant and they can base they stream sats to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-542" data-t="542">the Department of Defense. It's not like Fountain Out, but it's, proprietary. It's top secret to the Department of Defense</span> <span class="cue" id="t-548" data-t="548">that tracks,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-550" data-t="550">how many how many hours you're consuming directly through a through a value for value information exchange between</span> <span class="cue" id="t-557" data-t="557">your mind or the the soldiers' minds and the government. Interesting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-562">9:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-562" data-t="562">I wonder I wonder if there's a good way to I think probably the easiest way to track would be depending on found in,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-569" data-t="569">minutes streamed,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-571" data-t="571">like how many sats that people stream towards episodes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-575" data-t="575">Also, how many podcasts they boost.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-578">9:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-578" data-t="578">I think there's also just a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-582" data-t="582">a way that somebody handles a situation or the way that they under you know, a podcast that they can recall</span> <span class="cue" id="t-588" data-t="588">that perfectly fits a situation that they might be encountering.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-592" data-t="592">I think that that just comes with you can start to see that in their performance. They're like, oh, like this person is elite. Like it's a high level podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-600" data-t="600">Because I heard somebody the other day, they're kind of a noob</span> <span class="cue" id="t-603" data-t="603">and they were talking about setting up this really complicated</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-607">10:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-607" data-t="607">multi signature,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-609" data-t="609">wallet,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-610" data-t="610">self custody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-611" data-t="611">with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-613" data-t="613">with with their keys, their private keys backed up and distributed kind of geographically.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-618" data-t="618">They were gonna put their entire life savings, for them and their family</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-622">10:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-622" data-t="622">into this wallet. And I said,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-624" data-t="624">I know you kinda just found Bitcoin a few months ago. Do you think you're ready for this? And he said,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-630" data-t="630">well, I heard, you know, a Bitcoin podcaster talk about doing it, so if he can do it, I could figure it out.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-636" data-t="636">And I think that that a lot of people have that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-639" data-t="639">that perspective and I think it's naive</span> <span class="cue" id="t-642" data-t="642">and I think that you one of the biggest mistakes he can make is under he's underestimating</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-647">10:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-647" data-t="647">the skill and and sophistication of a Bitcoin podcaster.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-651">10:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-651" data-t="651">Yeah. I'm I'm wondering if we have any good examples of this. I I bet somebody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-655" data-t="655">who's like that is Pies de Pleb,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-658" data-t="658">one of our</span> <span class="cue" id="t-660" data-t="660">most loyal boosters. He he</span> <span class="cue" id="t-663" data-t="663">is somebody you can totally tell not only has listened to 21,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-667" data-t="667">episodes,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-668">11:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-668" data-t="668">or sorry, hours, but also,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-670" data-t="670">you know, continuously</span> <span class="cue" id="t-672" data-t="672">grows that amount with forty hours a week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-676" data-t="676">But, yeah, I'm I'm trying to think of any other, like, examples of people that we met in person</span> <span class="cue" id="t-681" data-t="681">that really blew us away,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-683" data-t="683">that really,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-685">11:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-685" data-t="685">I think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-687" data-t="687">Shadrach would be one.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-689">11:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-689" data-t="689">Oh, Shadrach, for sure. Yeah. He he's got</span> <span class="cue" id="t-692" data-t="692">I mean, he's gotta look to him. He looks like a cypherpunk.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-697">11:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-697" data-t="697">Well, you know, my our our first interaction with him ever,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-701" data-t="701">was him actually pulling a hat out that said,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-705" data-t="705">credentialed journalist on the side. True.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-708">11:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-708" data-t="708">And he as well. That's he's an early adopter for sure.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-712">11:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-712" data-t="712">And he offered to sell me non KYC cigarettes all at the same time.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-717">11:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-717" data-t="717">That is that just I mean, that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-719" data-t="719">goes to show you what I'm saying. Shadrach knows</span> <span class="cue" id="t-722" data-t="722">how to pod or how to transact adversarially.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-726" data-t="726">We had no you know, you'd never met him before.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-728" data-t="728">He shows up</span> <span class="cue" id="t-730" data-t="730">to rest to the gills in Bitcoin memes and bugle memes and he starts offering NYKYC cigarettes.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-736">12:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-736" data-t="736">You know right away that this guy is for real. He's legit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-741" data-t="741">This guy gets it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-744">12:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-744" data-t="744">Yeah. Fundamentals,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-745" data-t="745">you think he's gotten there? I mean, I know he just recently got into Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-750">12:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-750" data-t="750">Yeah. I think well, I listen. They some people are they're rookies.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-755" data-t="755">They're their rookie year and they they put up a Caitlin Clark, one of the best rookie years in WNBA</span> <span class="cue" id="t-760" data-t="760">history, one of the best players in the, entire organization her first year,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-765" data-t="765">but she's still a little inexperienced</span> <span class="cue" id="t-768" data-t="768">and is to only get better. And fundamentals is the same way. When it comes to a noob,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-773" data-t="773">he's raw talent, gets things right away. He's got a lower time preference than people from 2017</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-779">12:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-779" data-t="779">and he's just a noob. That's crazy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-783" data-t="783">But still</span> <span class="cue" id="t-784" data-t="784">nothing makes up for experience</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-787">13:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-787" data-t="787">and time in Bitcoin. Yeah, that makes sense. I feel like Udi is almost like a newcomer to Bitcoin even though he's been around a while.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-794">13:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-794" data-t="794">He's like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-795" data-t="795">the prodigal son. He's kind of coming back and everybody's kind of glad that he's brought back</span> <span class="cue" id="t-801" data-t="801">the wisdom</span> <span class="cue" id="t-802" data-t="802">from other blockchains that he has. It's been very,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-806" data-t="806">very obvious</span> <span class="cue" id="t-807" data-t="807">that He's adding value. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-810">13:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-810" data-t="810">I agree. Yeah. It'd be really interesting to see,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-814" data-t="814">just like a a squadron</span> <span class="cue" id="t-815" data-t="815">of these,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-819">13:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-819" data-t="819">orange berets</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-822">13:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-822" data-t="822">running around the conference. Like, you know, imagine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-825" data-t="825">imagine next year at the Bitcoin Magazine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-829" data-t="829">conference, a a battalion</span> <span class="cue" id="t-831" data-t="831">of orange berets show up,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-834" data-t="834">and it's like a 100 x's what Corey attempted to do with the Swanfluencers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-839" data-t="839">that one year where they're running around in their air force jumpsuits.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-843">14:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-843" data-t="843">Yeah. I I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-845" data-t="845">that would be a sight to see, but I think that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-848" data-t="848">I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-850" data-t="850">the best orange berets will be out of sight. They'll be operating undercover.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-854" data-t="854">Right. Right. They will be, incognito,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-857">14:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-857" data-t="857">like a browser. You don't think that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-860" data-t="860">you know that if you use one of those incognito browsers on the on the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-865" data-t="865">correct Linux distro on a typewriter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-868" data-t="868">the FBI can't see what you're searching. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-872" data-t="872">I don't know if you know that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-874">14:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-874" data-t="874">Right. Exactly. Like, it's, it's safe. Like, if you wanna be a cipher plucky, gotta use incognito mode. Sometimes it's all you can all you can use, and it's all you need.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-882">14:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-882" data-t="882">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-883" data-t="883">But, like, you know, there's, like, certain things that you shouldn't use incognito mode. So, like, you know, when your wife's checking your browser history,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-891" data-t="891">like, make sure that you do all your Bitcoin podcast stuff.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-895" data-t="895">All your searches not in incognito</span> <span class="cue" id="t-898" data-t="898">mode so it saves your, browser history so that so that she can be orange pilled. Yeah. For sure.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-904">15:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-904" data-t="904">So</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-904">15:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" data-t="904">so I okay. I I wanna segue into something. So I I recorded with high hash rate last week. That was one noteworthy thing.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-914">15:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-914" data-t="914">I diced dice. How did that one go?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-916">15:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-916" data-t="916">Well, I had a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-919" data-t="919">I had a breakthrough.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-920" data-t="920">I I I realized</span> <span class="cue" id="t-923" data-t="923">on the podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-924" data-t="924">why</span> <span class="cue" id="t-926" data-t="926">there's not that many women in Bitcoin</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-929">15:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-929" data-t="929">and how that will change. What, what did what did you discover? What did you realize? Your epiphany. So,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-935">15:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-935" data-t="935">you know, all these people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-937" data-t="937">that have wives that are in you know, Bitcoiners</span> <span class="cue" id="t-939" data-t="939">that have wives that that aren't into Bitcoin yet or they're kinda tired of hearing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-944" data-t="944">it or, you know, guys, orange shells that have gone on lots of dates but have never tried to orange pill a date.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-951" data-t="951">The primary thing that, you know, I think all these men are failing to understand is that women just wanna be listened to.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-958" data-t="958">Right?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-959">15:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-959" data-t="959">Right. Right. So they're trying to mansplain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-963" data-t="963">Bitcoin, right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-965" data-t="965">That's not what the winner wanna hear.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-968">16:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-968" data-t="968">No,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-970" data-t="970">no, exactly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-972" data-t="972">I mean, the women don't really wanna hear anything, you know, except for you to just, like, shut up and listen to them and ask questions. You know what I mean?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-981">16:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-981" data-t="981">And how can you how can you exploit that discovery</span> <span class="cue" id="t-984" data-t="984">to Orich Peltom?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-986">16:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-986" data-t="986">Well, I think one of the primary ways is to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-990" data-t="990">bring just ask any women that you can find to come on your podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-995" data-t="995">And that way, you can just listen to her and ask her questions. And then when she realizes that there's a huge audience that, like, will boost her on fountain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1004" data-t="1004">and listen to what she</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1006" data-t="1006">says, she's gonna become very interested in Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1009">16:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1009" data-t="1009">Right. Like, once she finds out that she can talk about this one subject</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1015" data-t="1015">and just make</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1017" data-t="1017">a lot of money,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1018" data-t="1018">have a lot of people listening,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1020" data-t="1020">and have a lot of people paying attention to them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1024" data-t="1024">That that would incentivize</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1026">17:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1026" data-t="1026">incentivize her</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1027" data-t="1027">to, to get into Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1030">17:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1030" data-t="1030">Yeah. Well, they're just kind of incredible things. So, you know, because there's such few women in Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1036" data-t="1036">the few women in Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1038" data-t="1038">that are here seem so much more attractive</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1040" data-t="1040">than they would be if there were a lot more women, if if there's, like, a harder difficulty adjustment.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1046">17:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1046" data-t="1046">Right. So it's it's like the early adopter advantage.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1050" data-t="1050">You can be kind of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1052" data-t="1052">just mid or just mildly attractive as a woman and and really get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1057" data-t="1057">that that market share quickly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1061" data-t="1061">Yeah. They're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1066">17:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1066" data-t="1066">they're</span> <span class="cue" data-t="1066">they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1067" data-t="1067">they're they're they're they're they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1069" data-t="1069">they're they're they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1071" data-t="1071">And so women,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1072" data-t="1072">that they do see seem a lot more attractive than they would if they were at home.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1077">17:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1077" data-t="1077">And I forgot what the term is. They call them, like</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1080">18:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1080" data-t="1080">A desert queen.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1082">18:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1082" data-t="1082">A desert queen? Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1085">18:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1085" data-t="1085">I've heard that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1086">18:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1086" data-t="1086">I was watching a movie where Tina Fey,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1090" data-t="1090">portrayed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1092" data-t="1092">a prudential journalist</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1094" data-t="1094">and in Kabul, Afghanistan,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1096" data-t="1096">and they called him Kabul goggles</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1099" data-t="1099">And that</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1100">18:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1100" data-t="1100">one.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1101" data-t="1101">That makes sense. So it almost be like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1104" data-t="1104">conference goggles.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1105" data-t="1105">Going to a Bitcoin conference and having conference goggles on.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1109">18:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1109" data-t="1109">Yeah, I wonder if you could call it PodConf goggles.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1113">18:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1113" data-t="1113">PodConf goggles, yeah, that'd be perfect. I bet you there will be, I mean, I just think when we're in Vegas, there's gonna be a lot of hot feds there. You won't even need conference goggles.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1123" data-t="1123">You'll just see a hot girl in a red dress and she'll wanna talk about, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1128" data-t="1128">how sad she is that what Bitcoin did switched to Mr. Obnoxious.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1131" data-t="1131">And you'll be like, hell yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1133" data-t="1133">I'm talking to this girl tonight. She's definitely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1136" data-t="1136">one of the hottest feds here.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1138">18:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1138" data-t="1138">Where where do you think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1140" data-t="1140">the feds were sending their,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1142" data-t="1142">their hot agents previously before Bitcoin podcast or conferences?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1147" data-t="1147">Where was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1148" data-t="1148">where were all those resources</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1150" data-t="1150">being centered around?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1151">19:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1151" data-t="1151">They were probably sending them to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1154" data-t="1154">to Wall Street conferences,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1156" data-t="1156">to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1157" data-t="1157">gun conferences.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1158" data-t="1158">I mean, they they made a the lady in charge of the the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1162" data-t="1162">NRA</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1163">19:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1163" data-t="1163">Hobbit,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1165" data-t="1165">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1167" data-t="1167">lot of right wing podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1169" data-t="1169">in, like, some of those,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1172" data-t="1172">areas that that's where they sent their out chicks.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1175">19:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1175" data-t="1175">Yeah. I bet they sent them to, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1178" data-t="1178">militia groups, all sorts of things like that. Right. Like, these these these women know</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1184">19:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1184" data-t="1184">how to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1185" data-t="1185">transact adversaries. You have to be on your on your toes because they will</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1191" data-t="1191">they will definitely drain your custodial lightning wallet when you're asleep if you're not careful.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1197">19:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1197" data-t="1197">Well, they they figured this out in Mexico. So, you know, like, one of the more common,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1202" data-t="1202">journalist jobs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1204" data-t="1204">that, the feds like to take</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1206" data-t="1206">is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1208" data-t="1208">being weathermen.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1210" data-t="1210">I don't know if you ever realized this.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1213">20:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1213" data-t="1213">No. No. Go on.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1215">20:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1215" data-t="1215">So, you know, why why the feds why do they wanna be the weathermen on the local news? It's because they wanna be able to explain all these weird</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1225" data-t="1225">weather phenomenon that happen as a result of the CIA manipulating weather. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1231" data-t="1231">Right. So they do this they do this a lot in Mexico</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1234" data-t="1234">and and all throughout the global south,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1238" data-t="1238">where they have extremely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1240" data-t="1240">hot</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1242">20:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1242" data-t="1242">weather reporters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1243" data-t="1243">in tight dresses.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1245" data-t="1245">And those are like the globe,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1247" data-t="1247">you know, these various countries' version</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1250" data-t="1250">of their intelligence agencies. So that's where like the hot spooks are they're on the web. Interesting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1256">20:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1256" data-t="1256">And they could theoretically, when they see the value,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1260" data-t="1260">they could come to Bitcoin block tests</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1263" data-t="1263">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1264" data-t="1264">spend that energy there.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1266">21:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1266" data-t="1266">Well, one of the things that was really crazy, I don't know if you watched Mark Zuckerberg at all,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1272" data-t="1272">his</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1273">21:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1273" data-t="1273">Oh, yeah. Yeah, his transformation is crazy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1276" data-t="1276">He's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1277" data-t="1277">trying to he's trying to seem cool.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1281" data-t="1281">Seems like AI is helping him to kinda connect with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1285" data-t="1285">you know, regular people. Well,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1288">21:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1288" data-t="1288">yes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1290" data-t="1290">100%.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1292" data-t="1292">The thing that was, you know, very fascinating about it all, you know, I've started to see this on on other, you know, platforms as well is, they have live dubbing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1302" data-t="1302">so language doesn't matter anymore.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1304">21:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1304" data-t="1304">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1306" data-t="1306">Interesting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1307">21:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1307" data-t="1307">So what that means is the Internet might all be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1311" data-t="1311">connected in a way that it wasn't before because language has been a big barrier</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1316">21:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1316" data-t="1316">on here. Right. Right. We we can just share memes now. Which means that we're not gonna be</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1322">22:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1322" data-t="1322">like, our our Twitter feeds and and and spaces and, you know, podcasts and stuff like that. It's not gonna be dominated by hot</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1329" data-t="1329">American fads, but we could have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1332" data-t="1332">hot,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1334" data-t="1334">you know, podcasters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1335" data-t="1335">and, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1337" data-t="1337">know, fads from</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1339">22:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1339" data-t="1339">the global south. So we could have some big booty Latinas, like, dominating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1344" data-t="1344">Bitcoin, Twitter, and various platforms.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1346">22:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1346" data-t="1346">That would be very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1348" data-t="1348">that would be big based to orange billing. Big booty Latinas? Yep. That that would that would really change the game. That would really spark engagement.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1356">22:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1356" data-t="1356">It'd be very useful. Yeah. It'd be pretty,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1360" data-t="1360">I don't know. The dynamics are shifting and, you know, I I'm kind of afraid for many of the male podcasters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1366" data-t="1366">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1368" data-t="1368">there's almost so I know, like, last week, we talked about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1372" data-t="1372">how a lot of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1374" data-t="1374">you know, trans women you know, men that transitioned</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1378">22:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1378" data-t="1378">to be a woman are starting to see, you know, pay discrepancies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1381" data-t="1381">for being women.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1384" data-t="1384">I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1385" data-t="1385">a lot of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1386" data-t="1386">these hot BBLs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1389" data-t="1389">are gonna actually see a premium</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1391">23:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1391" data-t="1391">versus, like, a loss</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1392" data-t="1392">in revenue.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1394" data-t="1394">And that a lot of the male podcasters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1396" data-t="1396">might turn around and have to transition to being women just to keep their audiences and revenue up. Wow. Yeah. So it's like there'll be so many more. It'll it'll drive</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1407">23:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1407" data-t="1407">SaaS wages down. It'll it'll drive down the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1411" data-t="1411">the salaries and they'll have to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1415" data-t="1415">have a higher audience. You won't be able to just get by with a small audience. You'll need millions of listeners and the only way to do that is to become a hot big booty Latina.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1423">23:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1423" data-t="1423">Well, and there there's also the route. So, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1426" data-t="1426">know, something that was very interesting that happened this week is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1430" data-t="1430">is Kaley's rival,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1432" data-t="1432">Haley Welch,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1435" data-t="1435">the the Hawtua girl.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1437" data-t="1437">Right. She hinted at doing a interview with Michael Sailor,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1441">24:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1441" data-t="1441">trying to maintain that she's gonna be a Bitcoin podcaster.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1445" data-t="1445">And I think you were telling me that currently, she is, like, the third biggest podcaster in the world.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1452">24:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1452" data-t="1452">Right. She's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1454" data-t="1454">I don't know about the world, but in the, top</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1457" data-t="1457">five, top 10, whatever rankings for US podcasts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1462" data-t="1462">she is right behind Tucker and Joe Rogan. She's number three. She just recently surpassed Candace Owens, another hotbed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1470" data-t="1470">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1471" data-t="1471">she's up there, and if she makes the pivot to a Bitcoin podcast, it could be the first number one</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1477">24:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1477" data-t="1477">podcast in the world that would be a Bitcoin podcast. And it would be, you know, a girl who did it. It won't be pop or it won't be, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1485" data-t="1485">Peter McCormick.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1487">24:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1487" data-t="1487">So, yeah, I mean, that's what's so crazy about it is that she might be bigger, the biggest Bitcoin podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1493" data-t="1493">ever, not not just currently, but she,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1497" data-t="1497">you know Overnight. Theoretically could surpass all of Peter McCormick's listeners,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1503" data-t="1503">like, total podcast listens in, like, a month.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1507">25:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1507" data-t="1507">Right. Overnight.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1508" data-t="1508">Overnight.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1509" data-t="1509">Yep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1510" data-t="1510">That's what that means. It's it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1512" data-t="1512">so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1513" data-t="1513">we we hope she read the Bitcoin standard.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1516">25:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1516" data-t="1516">And she we hope she listened to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1520" data-t="1520">because otherwise,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1521" data-t="1521">it will be the blind leading the blind,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1525">25:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1525" data-t="1525">which is number one. Yeah. But I I think just think about, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1529" data-t="1529">her orange pill</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1532" data-t="1532">her orange pilling is gonna accelerate so much, you know, by having these different guests on.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1537" data-t="1537">Like, this is something that was very confusing. Yeah. She could surpass Dennis Porter. That that is a bold statement, but it's there's a non zero chance that's possible.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1548">25:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1548" data-t="1548">Right. Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1551" data-t="1551">she</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1552" data-t="1552">could completely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1553" data-t="1553">obsolete Dennis Porter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1555" data-t="1555">That is a risk. She could become more important to Bitcoin than Dennis Porter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1559" data-t="1559">before the end of the year.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1562">26:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1562" data-t="1562">Well, I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1563" data-t="1563">they would complement each other because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1567" data-t="1567">you know, there's a lot of politicians</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1569" data-t="1569">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1570" data-t="1570">aren't into, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1572" data-t="1572">super</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1573">26:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1573" data-t="1573">alpha males.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1576" data-t="1576">Like, if Robert Breedlove or Dennis Porter walked in the room, they'd probably feel, you know, kinda uncomfortable. But when there's, like, a young girl that looks borderline underage,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1586" data-t="1586">they get really excited.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1588">26:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1588" data-t="1588">Right. That's true.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1590">26:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1590" data-t="1590">And so, like, there will always be a place for dentists because there's all these, like, you know, crusty old ladies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1597" data-t="1597">that like Elizabeth Warren and AOC and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1603" data-t="1603">Nancy Pelosi</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1606" data-t="1606">that, you know, Dennis will</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1608" data-t="1608">get them really, really excited as he orange pills them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1612" data-t="1612">He just has, like, a really, like, sweet way of doing that with some of these older folks.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1618">26:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1618" data-t="1618">That's right. So everybody really just needs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1621" data-t="1621">there's an audience for everybody, and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1624" data-t="1624">it's just a new audience that Haley would bring in, and it would be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1628" data-t="1628">a very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1630" data-t="1630">a wider level of influence.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1633" data-t="1633">Yeah. Maybe lower value influence but a higher level</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1637">27:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1637" data-t="1637">individual</span> <span class="cue" data-t="1637">influence, touch points. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1639">27:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1639" data-t="1639">So I mean if you just think about it, so like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1642" data-t="1642">if,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1644" data-t="1644">Dennis Porter went and tried to pill, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1648" data-t="1648">Hillary Clinton, like, he would be incredibly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1650" data-t="1650">effective at doing it because, you know, she's probably feeling kinda lonely and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1656" data-t="1656">you know, just hurt. But if you sent Kaylee to her,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1661">27:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1661" data-t="1661">she would just be like, wow. You're just like, you know, 20 of the women that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1667" data-t="1667">that Bill has slept with and cheated on me with.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1670">27:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1670" data-t="1670">Right. Right. Exactly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1675" data-t="1675">Another</span> <span class="cue" data-t="1675">and go ahead.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1677">27:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1677" data-t="1677">I mean, they they just like, they're this is the thing that people have to understand. It's like they have to understand the market.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1685" data-t="1685">And instead of feeling threatened, they have to adjust to it. So, like, if you're a male Bitcoin podcaster,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1690" data-t="1690">maybe you should you should consider transitioning to a woman.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1696" data-t="1696">Maybe you should, like, look at doing something more interesting that's not, like, the same thing as everybody else.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1703" data-t="1703">But, yeah, I mean, there's there's just there's stuff to be learned here, but I I I predict women are gonna start</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1710" data-t="1710">coming in en masse and taking over. And, like, this is why Alex Fetzke is so uncomfortable right now and why he is, you know, talking about women need to stay in the kitchen is because, like, he's very afraid that his podcast is about to get decimated by people like Kaylee.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1725">28:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1725" data-t="1725">Right, he sees the threat and he sees the threat and you don't, you have to be careful of a, of a cornered</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1731" data-t="1731">podcaster. When you put a podcaster in a corner,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1735" data-t="1735">they can lash out and it can be pretty damaging to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1739" data-t="1739">different sponsors and and, advertisers that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1743" data-t="1743">are looking to kind of stay</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1746" data-t="1746">uncontroversial,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1748">29:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1748" data-t="1748">but then you kind of put them in a really you put Podkolff in a weird position if you get a little bit too,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1754" data-t="1754">ideological sometimes.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1758">29:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1758" data-t="1758">Mhmm. No. They don't like that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1760">29:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1760" data-t="1760">They don't. They don't like it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1763" data-t="1763">But another big thing that happened in the news today or this week, excuse me.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1767" data-t="1767">Did you did you happen to see that swan, that lawsuit?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1771" data-t="1771">Did did you happen to see that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1773" data-t="1773">or read that?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1775">29:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1775" data-t="1775">I did. I I actually had a bunch of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1777" data-t="1777">you know, different, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1779" data-t="1779">CEOs of different companies in the space reaching out to me for DMs asking if I had, like, the the actual full copy of it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1787" data-t="1787">which I, of course, did. Yeah. Because I'm a credentialed journalist.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1791">29:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1791" data-t="1791">Right. Right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1794" data-t="1794">It was pretty wild It was a bombshell, right? A bombshell It's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1798" data-t="1798">pretty strong</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1800" data-t="1800">strong accusations,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1802" data-t="1802">that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1803" data-t="1803">I mean, let's let's be frank</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1805">30:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1805" data-t="1805">Tether</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1806" data-t="1806">and and Corey, they kinda had a disagreement</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1810" data-t="1810">about how to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1812" data-t="1812">to use dollars to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1815" data-t="1815">to strengthen Bitcoin, to make Bitcoin better.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1819" data-t="1819">So</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1820">30:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1820" data-t="1820">after</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1821" data-t="1821">the the the Tether CEO</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1823" data-t="1823">basically said,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1826" data-t="1826">I think the best CEO</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1828" data-t="1828">in all of Bitcoin is Corey. And Corey said that he told him that multiple times,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1833" data-t="1833">but it turns out that he, he decided</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1836">30:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1836" data-t="1836">to learn the trade secrets</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1838" data-t="1838">of America's best Bitcoin CEO</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1841" data-t="1841">and use those trade secrets, steal them and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1844" data-t="1844">use</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1846" data-t="1846">use those secrets to to make their own employees,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1849" data-t="1849">Swan's own employees, help them,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1852">30:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1852" data-t="1852">steal those secrets and create a new company</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1855" data-t="1855">that tether controls.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1857" data-t="1857">Just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1858" data-t="1858">a wild story. I just can't believe that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1861" data-t="1861">that that happened.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1862">31:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1862" data-t="1862">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1864" data-t="1864">I mean, the lawsuit was pretty damning in multiple ways. So in one of the ways it was pretty damning was Swan in particular.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1871" data-t="1871">Right. So it really suggested that their HR</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1874" data-t="1874">processes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1876" data-t="1876">are not that great</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1879" data-t="1879">at doing due diligence</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1882">31:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1882" data-t="1882">on on employees. Like, you know, they Swan HR, it's a very powerful institution.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1888" data-t="1888">Swan employees,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1889" data-t="1889">you know, are very restricted in what they can and can't say</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1893" data-t="1893">for whatever reason,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1895" data-t="1895">such as they can't say</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1897" data-t="1897">or comment on whether Lynn Alden is hot or not because they're afraid that HR will, you know, have some sort of retribution at</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1903">31:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1903" data-t="1903">doing something so innocuous.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1906" data-t="1906">But, yeah, I mean, if you if you go through the Swan employee handbook, like, one of the one of the core tenants of you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1914" data-t="1914">that you one of the attitudes you have to have while working there is that you're trying to do what's best for Bitcoin. Right? Right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1923" data-t="1923">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1924" data-t="1924">and so something that Corey was very passionate about, you know, which, you know, is one of the core tenants of Podkomp is using dollars to make Bitcoin stronger.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1933" data-t="1933">And so this lawsuit alleges that, you know, these employees that broke off from Swan,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1941">32:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1941" data-t="1941">that you you just went into a little bit, that they, you know, at their core, they didn't want to use dollars to make Bitcoin stronger. They were actually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1949" data-t="1949">allegedly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1950" data-t="1950">more interested in making dollars for themselves.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1954">32:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1954" data-t="1954">Right, right. Yeah, exactly. It was a fundamental</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1958" data-t="1958">contradiction in values that these people were trying to work together</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1962" data-t="1962">to make Bitcoin stronger, but really they just wanted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1965" data-t="1965">more dollars for themselves. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1968">32:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1968" data-t="1968">So, you know, I'd learned a little bit about Swan's hiring practices</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1972" data-t="1972">as a result of, you know, my interest being peaked</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1976" data-t="1976">at this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1977" data-t="1977">this article. But, did you know that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1980" data-t="1980">you know, a swan hires different people, you know, HR actually records a podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1986" data-t="1986">with the prospective employee, which,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1990">33:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1990" data-t="1990">Brady wants to Of course. Yeah. That, I mean, that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1994" data-t="1994">gives something for the hiring managers to listen to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1997" data-t="1997">to see if that person is good for Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2001">33:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2001" data-t="2001">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2003" data-t="2003">So kind of going back to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2006" data-t="2006">you were explaining to me how you know, the the OrangeBury selection process works.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2012" data-t="2012">I mean, this is something, you know, I'm kinda concerned about, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2016" data-t="2016">is if we're if we don't have a good way to document</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2020" data-t="2020">whether or not somebody's listened to enough Bitcoin podcasts,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2025">33:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2025" data-t="2025">they might be able to deceive us.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2028">33:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2028" data-t="2028">Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Like, this how a lot of people are thinking, how do I prevent this from happening to my company?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2035" data-t="2035">And here's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2037" data-t="2037">the part of the problem is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2038" data-t="2038">you probably know who Preston Pysh is. He's a podcaster in the space. His podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2044" data-t="2044">is called We Study Billionaires.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2046" data-t="2046">And so what they do is they study billionaires. They study their, they read their books, they study their, their public statements, their letters to shareholders,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2055">34:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2055" data-t="2055">and they try to learn</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2056" data-t="2056">what</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2058" data-t="2058">very successful billionaires, they try to learn their trade secrets, they try to learn about how they do business so they can emulate that, so they can copycat it and make a lot of money themselves.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2069" data-t="2069">Well, that's what Tether was doing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2071" data-t="2071">And it's what a lot of people can do,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2074" data-t="2074">unfortunately, because with Swan,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2076">34:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2076" data-t="2076">they had so many podcasts and Corey would go on so many different podcasts. He'd go on YouTube, he would go on the Swan channel,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2082" data-t="2082">And he would, he would tell people his trade secrets and what he was doing and how he was becoming going to be successful.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2091" data-t="2091">And unfortunately,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2092" data-t="2092">Heather stole the secrets by listening to all these podcasts. Then you can do that too. There's not a good enough protection</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2099" data-t="2099">for people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2101" data-t="2101">to share their ideas on podcasts and not have been stolen</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2104">35:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2104" data-t="2104">and used to build successful businesses.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2107" data-t="2107">When it's like, that was my idea. I shared this is the podcast I shared it on. I should be able to see this as a copyright infringement. Okay. So that's pretty interesting. So, like, you know, HR, like, with every employee interview would</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2120">35:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2120" data-t="2120">record a podcast that Brady Swanson would have to listen to.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2124" data-t="2124">Do you think that they were potentially doing that to ask</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2128" data-t="2128">a bunch of higher potential hirees</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2131" data-t="2131">ideas</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2132" data-t="2132">and then take their ideas and that's why the podcast was recorded?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2136">35:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2136" data-t="2136">Yeah. Exactly. And it's not just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2139" data-t="2139">the ones submitted to HR.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2141" data-t="2141">Every podcast that they sponsor</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2144" data-t="2144">is basically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2146" data-t="2146">subsidizing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2147" data-t="2147">getting people to come on and give their best orange pilling story or give their best idea for a new Bitcoin product,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2154">35:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2154" data-t="2154">and then they can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2155" data-t="2155">take that idea and implement it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2158" data-t="2158">And if it's successful,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2160" data-t="2160">well, that that that was, you know, it was just it was cheap. It was instead of having a a product developer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2166" data-t="2166">or somebody on staff, they would have to pay a salary,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2169" data-t="2169">expensive salary for them to build products and have ideas, you just take them from podcasts. Was was Preston,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2178">36:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2178" data-t="2178">on the payroll</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2180" data-t="2180">at any point?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2181">36:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2181" data-t="2181">He's on the payroll, yeah, for Swan in the past, I think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2185" data-t="2185">with River,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2186" data-t="2186">with others. I mean, there's multiple companies in the space who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2190" data-t="2190">are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2191" data-t="2191">advertising on and sponsoring</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2193" data-t="2193">Bitcoin podcasts and taking</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2195">36:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2195" data-t="2195">those ideas.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2197">36:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2197" data-t="2197">Interesting. So essentially they get all this information on billionaires for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2203" data-t="2203">very little money.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2204">36:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2204" data-t="2204">Exactly. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2207" data-t="2207">the thing the difference is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2209" data-t="2209">billionaires like Warren Buffett and Ray Dalio,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2212" data-t="2212">they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2213" data-t="2213">they're very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2215" data-t="2215">know what they're doing. They are they know what's going to be studied. They know that their books and their content is going to be studied. They're very careful</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2223">37:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2223" data-t="2223">about what they say and the information that they share. And I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2228" data-t="2228">Bitcoin podcasters have to learn that same discretion</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2232" data-t="2232">if they don't want their ideas to be stolen by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2236" data-t="2236">other companies.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2238">37:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2238" data-t="2238">Well, this is something that Meemer has been struggling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2241" data-t="2241">with for years, which is dealing with how to deal with Dan Held's theft of intellectual property</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2247" data-t="2247">in the form of memes.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2249">37:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2249" data-t="2249">Right. It's it's it's harder it's a lot harder to defend intellectual property on a meme,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2255" data-t="2255">than it is a podcast idea.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2257" data-t="2257">I guess it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2259" data-t="2259">if you're going to share a meme, you kind of expect it to be stole by Dan Held. Only if it's good. He only steals good memes. Right, right, of course. So maybe that's why you don't know. Unfortunately, Alito is a good one. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2270">37:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2270" data-t="2270">It's a good barometer.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2272">37:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2272" data-t="2272">Right. Kind of like an ironic barometer. Well, yeah. I mean, this lawsuit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2276" data-t="2276">has been That's already in the first watermark. That's why you have to put watermarks on it. That's what Strike learned.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2281">38:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2281" data-t="2281">Yeah. Well, this this whole lawsuit has been really interesting, and it's been fascinating to watch everybody on Bitcoin Twitter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2288" data-t="2288">become legal experts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2290" data-t="2290">almost instantaneously.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2292">38:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2292" data-t="2292">That's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2293" data-t="2293">part of the rabbit hole is studying</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2296" data-t="2296">not just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2297" data-t="2297">cryptography</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2298" data-t="2298">and economics, but also</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2300" data-t="2300">law and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2302">38:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2302" data-t="2302">having</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2303" data-t="2303">if you listen to enough Bitcoin Law podcasts, I mean that's equivalent of a law degree in terms of education. Yeah, it's I don't know. I I think If you follow Joe Carlazar, that's, like, that's that's an education in and of itself.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2316">38:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2316" data-t="2316">People people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2317" data-t="2317">in and around Bitcoin, they just need to listen to a lot of different podcasts.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2322">38:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2322" data-t="2322">Right.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2324">38:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2324" data-t="2324">So let's see.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2326" data-t="2326">Let me do calculator</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2328" data-t="2328">real quick.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2330" data-t="2330">24 times seven. So there's a hundred and sixty eight hours</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2334" data-t="2334">in a week. And so,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2337" data-t="2337">you know, if you if you quit your job, you could do forty hours of Bitcoin podcast a week. You could do</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2343">39:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2343" data-t="2343">forty hours of legal podcast a week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2345" data-t="2345">Do eighty hours of podcast. And, I mean, how long would it take you to become a credentialed lawyer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2352" data-t="2352">doing that, do you think? Just listening to a legal podcast like that? Let's see, what is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2359">39:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2359" data-t="2359">law school semester</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2361" data-t="2361">credit hours?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2364" data-t="2364">So you have to do</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2366" data-t="2366">15 credit hours each semester,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2369" data-t="2369">each two semesters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2371" data-t="2371">per school year, three school years, and law school.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2375">39:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2375" data-t="2375">So that's ninety hours,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2378" data-t="2378">ninety credit hours to become a lawyer. So that'd be 90,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2382" data-t="2382">law podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2383" data-t="2383">that you have to listen to. So I have,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2387">39:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2387" data-t="2387">I don't know why,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2391" data-t="2391">Fountain isn't doing this yet, but we all know that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2395" data-t="2395">podcasts are, like, the primary vehicle of education.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2398" data-t="2398">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2399" data-t="2399">something that's really important for education</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2403" data-t="2403">to, like, be shown</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2405">40:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2405" data-t="2405">or displayed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2406" data-t="2406">is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2408">40:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2408" data-t="2408">passing tests. Right. So you should be able to pass you should be able to take</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2412" data-t="2412">interactive tests</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2414" data-t="2414">through the Nutrister integrations on Fountain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2417" data-t="2417">to prove</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2419" data-t="2419">that you've</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2421" data-t="2421">gained,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2422">40:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2422" data-t="2422">that you've learned the subject material that you've been listening to?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2426">40:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2426" data-t="2426">Yeah. This would probably be the way that we,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2430" data-t="2430">you know, push back against,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2434" data-t="2434">you know, people that are just kinda, like, tending to to listen to podcasts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2438" data-t="2438">Like, that Rafa guy that used to work at Swarm.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2442">40:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2442" data-t="2442">Exactly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2443" data-t="2443">Exactly. Like, this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2445" data-t="2445">it would be like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2447" data-t="2447">to become a lawyer, you have to take</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2450" data-t="2450">an exam, a licensing exam.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2452" data-t="2452">And that's how people know that you have put in the proof of work</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2456">40:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2456" data-t="2456">and studied law for ninety hours</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2461" data-t="2461">in college. You don't ninety hour no. You could take a test. You're a credentialed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2466" data-t="2466">Bitcoin law</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2467">41:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2467" data-t="2467">lawyer. Well, that's one thing that, you know, you have to there there's a type of person that that is a good test writer. And what they do is they,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2476" data-t="2476">they just, like, pick really, like, obscure and nitpicky things that are only mentioned</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2482" data-t="2482">on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2484" data-t="2484">or, like, in the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2485" data-t="2485">in the lectures</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2487" data-t="2487">just so that you can only pass it,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2490">41:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2490" data-t="2490">if you actually attend the class.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2494" data-t="2494">And I think we could do that with this.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2496">41:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2496" data-t="2496">Oh, yeah. That'd be the easiest one where you just you could study. You could pull stuff out of the transcripts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2501" data-t="2501">using AI</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2503" data-t="2503">and develop tests where it's like if if if this wasn't worded</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2507" data-t="2507">as like or signal or flag</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2510" data-t="2510">that this question would be on the test, then the person would fail. There, it wouldn't be on the exam. Yeah. I mean, I</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2517">41:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2517" data-t="2517">I think there's so many ways to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2520" data-t="2520">revolutionize</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2522" data-t="2522">prudentialism</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2523">42:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2523" data-t="2523">because I think Yeah. Lightning solves this, right?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2527">42:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2527" data-t="2527">Like, one of one of the issues that a lot of young people are facing today,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2532" data-t="2532">is that their student loan payments are getting in the way of them paying taxes. I don't know if you've seen this at all in the news.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2541">42:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2541" data-t="2541">Oh, yeah. Absolutely. It's it's one of the biggest impediments</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2544" data-t="2544">to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2545" data-t="2545">The US</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2547" data-t="2547">basically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2548" data-t="2548">getting enough, raising enough money to stimulate the economy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2552">42:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2552" data-t="2552">Yeah. Yeah. It's unfortunate because a lot more money could be sent to Israel right now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2558">42:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2558" data-t="2558">It wasn't for three months.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2560" data-t="2560">Yeah. And that's and that is, you know, it's it's a well known fact</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2564" data-t="2564">that Arab countries such as Qatar,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2567" data-t="2567">and others who are aligned</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2569" data-t="2569">with some of Israel's Lebanese that they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2573" data-t="2573">have a lot of control and a lot of investments in colleges</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2577">42:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2577" data-t="2577">because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2578" data-t="2578">the higher they can make</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2580" data-t="2580">your college degree cost,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2582" data-t="2582">the less taxes you can pay</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2584" data-t="2584">and the less that those taxes can be used to support Israel. Yeah, I want to hear like a good breakdown for Jimmy's song on how Bitcoin fixes this. I hope he listens to this. I hope he thinks about that because it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2595" data-t="2595">easy to talk about</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2597">43:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2597" data-t="2597">stuff like religion or how Bitcoin fixes the education system in The United States. Like, those are pretty easy. We figured that out already, Bitcoin, how Bitcoin fixes this, but fixing the Middle East is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2610" data-t="2610">it's been a problem for thousands of years.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2612" data-t="2612">Gold didn't fix it. The petrodollar</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2615" data-t="2615">didn't fix it. I think Bitcoin can fix it, but we have to figure out how.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2619" data-t="2619">How does Bitcoin fix, you know, Israel</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2622" data-t="2622">Muslim Jewish relations?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2624">43:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2624" data-t="2624">Their ultimate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2625" data-t="2625">it's our ultimate test. Well,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2628">43:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2628" data-t="2628">I think one of the ways it fixes it is, well, it props up the relevancy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2634" data-t="2634">of the dollar long term.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2636" data-t="2636">Because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2637" data-t="2637">when the US government, you know, buys it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2640" data-t="2640">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2641" data-t="2641">you know, pumps the shit out of it in price, you know, this is why I'm</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2646">44:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2646" data-t="2646">so bullish on the price, and I think it really can reach 2,000,000,000,000 USDT,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2652" data-t="2652">next month</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2654" data-t="2654">is, you know, essentially, you know, for that reason. And so, like, what that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2658" data-t="2658">ensures is is that the Israelis are able to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2663" data-t="2663">indefinitely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2665" data-t="2665">benefit in assisting the US government from stimulating The US economy</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2670">44:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2670" data-t="2670">by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2671" data-t="2671">perpetuating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2672" data-t="2672">conflict. And so the CIA,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2675" data-t="2675">you know, will fund the Arabs,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2678" data-t="2678">using Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2680" data-t="2680">you know, in order for them to have money to to buy and and launch missiles.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2685">44:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2685" data-t="2685">And then, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2687" data-t="2687">using</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2688" data-t="2688">Tether,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2690" data-t="2690">in US dollars, you know, the US government will buy missiles</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2695" data-t="2695">to send to Israel to shoot down the missiles</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2698" data-t="2698">that are,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2699">44:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2699" data-t="2699">and and just what this ensures is just, like, a very vibrant US economy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2705" data-t="2705">where, you know, some of the most valuable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2707" data-t="2707">corporations like Halliburton and Raytheon and Lockheed Martin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2712" data-t="2712">you know, just have infinite funding. And this is, you know, good for people on all sides because even though, you know, a lot of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2720" data-t="2720">Arabs are gonna get blown up,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2722" data-t="2722">by Israeli missiles,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2724">45:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2724" data-t="2724">and, you know, maybe some</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2726" data-t="2726">Jews will get blown up by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2729" data-t="2729">Arab missiles,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2732" data-t="2732">like, both their economies will be booming</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2734" data-t="2734">essentially from the influx of, you know, jobs and and money coming from outside. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2741" data-t="2741">it's just it's just going to, you know, make things a lot more efficient. Yeah. It's it's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2746">45:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2746" data-t="2746">not that makes me more bullish than looking at that situation in The Middle East right now and seeing, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2752" data-t="2752">the positive effects that Bitcoin's gonna have.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2755">45:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2755" data-t="2755">Well, you know, like, right now, Israel has two wars</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2759" data-t="2759">going on at once.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2763" data-t="2763">You know, imagine, like, if they stabilize the energy grid</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2767" data-t="2767">in Israel with Bitcoin mining, if if a bunch of the residents are running, you know, demand response with their BitAxes.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2775">46:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2775" data-t="2775">Right.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2778">46:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2778" data-t="2778">Like, they could be launching three or four wars</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2782" data-t="2782">all at once. The more thermodynamic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2784" data-t="2784">we sound your energy system is within your monetary system when it's in harmony,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2788" data-t="2788">the more war you can afford. Like, they, you know, they maybe they could directly, you know, with The US's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2795" data-t="2795">assistance,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2797" data-t="2797">invade Iran.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2800">46:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2800" data-t="2800">You know, they could be looking at countries like Egypt. They could be looking,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2804" data-t="2804">you know, it's kind of a credible to think how many fronts Israel could fight on,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2810" data-t="2810">you know, US support</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2812" data-t="2812">just as the world continues to hyper Bitcoin eyes and Bitcoin continues to fix things. It's it's that don't that almost gets me as chipped up as as as also Dennis Porter. Yeah. I mean, we we could be looking on a day where,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2825" data-t="2825">I don't think Dennis Porter's been to the wailing wall yet.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2829">47:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2829" data-t="2829">But that that is definitely time.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2832">47:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2832" data-t="2832">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2833" data-t="2833">Okay. So do you have any, like, predictions on date on the date that Dennis Porter's gonna take a selfie at the wailing wall? I think</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2840">47:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2840" data-t="2840">before</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2842" data-t="2842">I'm gonna do,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2844" data-t="2844">I don't know, the over under.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2846">47:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2846" data-t="2846">I'll set it at the next halving. That's okay. So you're you're thinking at, like, 2028.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2852" data-t="2852">I'm thinking 2020</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2854" data-t="2854">I'm thinking 2026</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2855" data-t="2855">because I think he needs to do it before 2028</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2859" data-t="2859">when he's likely gonna run for president.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2862">47:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2862" data-t="2862">Good point. Yeah. I think that's a safe assumption. Maybe we could lower that one to 2000 at what point in 2026?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2870">47:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2870" data-t="2870">Yeah. There there's a part of the US constitution, which a lot of people don't realize, which is that you're not allowed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2877" data-t="2877">to run for president until you've actually visited the Wailing Wall</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2882">48:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2882" data-t="2882">in Jerusalem. Oh, yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2884" data-t="2884">So that's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2886" data-t="2886">the marker to watch is when he goes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2888" data-t="2888">That's a woman that was serious. Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2891" data-t="2891">yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2892" data-t="2892">Did, did was there anything else this week that,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2896">48:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2896" data-t="2896">we need to cover before we go into the boost? Oh,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2900">48:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2900" data-t="2900">I don't know.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2902" data-t="2902">I guess there's the one last thing I wanted to talk about, which was the, the Star Wars.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2907" data-t="2907">Oh, yeah. Yeah. Remake. Yeah. What's going on with Disney? Absolutely. Let's be quick on that. May maybe we'll have to start next week by, you know, going into it some more. But,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2917">48:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kathleen Kennedy</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2917" data-t="2917">Hello. This is Lucasfilm president, Kathleen Kennedy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2920" data-t="2920">I want to apologize to all Star Wars fans for ruining the sequel trilogy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2926" data-t="2926">We will be remaking all of it and recasting it to reflect that bitcoin has already won.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2932" data-t="2932">Ray will continue to be a Mary Sue, but it will be much better as Lynn Alden will be playing her.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2939" data-t="2939">Here is the teaser trailer for the cypherpunk awakens.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2945">49:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kaley Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2945" data-t="2945">Who are you?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2946">49:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2946" data-t="2946">I'm a hot macro podcaster.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2950">49:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2950" data-t="2950">I was raised to do one thing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2954" data-t="2954">but I've got nothing to fight for.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2968">49:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2968" data-t="2968">Nothing will stand in our way.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2970" data-t="2970">I will finish dollarizing Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2984">49:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2984" data-t="2984">There are stories about what has happened.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2990" data-t="2990">It's true.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2994" data-t="2994">All of it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3005" data-t="3005">The dark side.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3010">50:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3010" data-t="3010">The Jedi?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3018" data-t="3018">They're real.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3024">50:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kaley Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3024" data-t="3024">The force It's the Force.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3030">50:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3030" data-t="3030">I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3031" data-t="3031">was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3033" data-t="3033">calling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3035" data-t="3035">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3037" data-t="3037">you.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3039">50:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kaley Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3039" data-t="3039">Just stream SATS on fountain.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3049">50:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kathleen Kennedy</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3049" data-t="3049">Sorry about last time. I promise we'll do better this time around.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3053">50:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3053" data-t="3053">Yeah. So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3055" data-t="3055">Lucasfilm</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3056" data-t="3056">and Star Wars,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3058" data-t="3058">who makes Star Wars,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3060" data-t="3060">who's owned by Disney, has apologized publicly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3063" data-t="3063">for the last</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3066">51:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3066" data-t="3066">attempt at creating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3067" data-t="3067">a Star Wars trilogy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3069" data-t="3069">failing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3070" data-t="3070">miserably.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3071" data-t="3071">And they understand the audience is very upset with them over it. Mhmm. And so they're redoing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3076" data-t="3076">all of the episodes</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3078">51:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3078" data-t="3078">to make them not suck. And one of the things that they've determined is a good idea is to use a few different,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3086" data-t="3086">Bitcoin influencers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3088" data-t="3088">Okay. As cast members. Like, they wanna make it very clear with this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3095" data-t="3095">this new series that Bitcoin has already worn.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3098">51:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3098" data-t="3098">Wow. And so I'm excited to know who kinda which characters from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3102" data-t="3102">from this industry kinda fit the archetype.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3107" data-t="3107">What have they got in store for us?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3110">51:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3110" data-t="3110">Well, yeah, just briefly. So Michael Sailor is gonna replace</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3115" data-t="3115">Kylo Ren.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3116" data-t="3116">Dennis Porter is gonna replace Han Solo.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3119" data-t="3119">And Lyn Alden is gonna replace Rey.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3122" data-t="3122">And Oh, wow. Kathleen Kennedy you know, one of the big complaints in the last,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3127" data-t="3127">trilogy was that Rey was a bit of a Mary Sue, which is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3132">52:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3132" data-t="3132">the term used for an overpowered female character.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3136" data-t="3136">Right. That doesn't really,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3138" data-t="3138">you know, experience any conflict that, you know, because like most characters, like, they they kinda develop throughout the storyline.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3145" data-t="3145">So they, like, start out weak. So you look at, like, somebody like Luke Skywalker, but, like, you know, Rey was, like, zero to 100,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3152" data-t="3152">barely any development. She's just a Mary Sue. And that's kinda</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3156" data-t="3156">how I feel Lyn Alden is as a character. So I think she's gonna be good for that role this time. Oh, perfect. Yeah. Yeah. It's they're really casted at this,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3165">52:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3165" data-t="3165">very thoughtfully, very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3167" data-t="3167">deliberately. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3171">52:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3171" data-t="3171">Alright. Let's get into the fountain, please.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3174" data-t="3174">Oh, yeah. I'm excited for the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3176" data-t="3176">the series though. I'm a I'm a Star Wars fan.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3179">52:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3179" data-t="3179">Oh, me too. I don't I don't think that you can be a Bitcoiner and not be a Star Wars fan.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3184" data-t="3184">I I know a lot of shitrunners like Star Trek, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3187" data-t="3187">Star Wars seems to kinda bind this industry a little bit or this community.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3192">53:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3192" data-t="3192">Yeah. You know, metallic is very into Star Trek.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3196">53:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3196" data-t="3196">Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. That that kinda tells you all you need to know.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3200">53:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3200" data-t="3200">Alright. Let's get through these boosts real quick.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3202" data-t="3202">We'll call it a week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3205" data-t="3205">First boost is from miss hondelnat four twenty</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3208" data-t="3208">for 20,000 sats and said,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3211" data-t="3211">I took a week off. Dot dot dot dot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3214" data-t="3214">Sheesh.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3215">53:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3215" data-t="3215">Despite all of Rod's negativity towards me, I'm still a loyal listener.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3220">53:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3220" data-t="3220">I saw this and this prompted me as I shared. You can go and check it on,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3225" data-t="3225">on Noester and and and Bitcoin Twitter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3229" data-t="3229">I share a screenshot of the kind of stuff that this Huddl not sends me on a regular basis. So if you're curious about why I have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3236" data-t="3236">very little patience for her antics,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3238" data-t="3238">that should that should kind of explain it for you. But, nonetheless, I I appreciate the boost. I mean, it's it's been a very interesting back and forth to watch,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3247">54:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3247" data-t="3247">and I'm I'm just kind of a a neutral third party, I would say, in this situation.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3254">54:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3254" data-t="3254">Yeah. There's some of our listeners, they think I'm too hard on her. Some of them have a crush on her. I just wanted to share for this moment. You know, I, I can't say this enough.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3264" data-t="3264">If you're into her, go for it. Like, you're not gonna offend me.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3268" data-t="3268">No, it's not. It's not.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3270" data-t="3270">It's a Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3271" data-t="3271">the Bitcoin community. It's just,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3273">54:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3273" data-t="3273">Satash Brothers, kinda like Eskimo Brothers. I I don't know how I'd even get a hold of her. The the only place I see her is on Fountain. And so I'm kinda curious how,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3283" data-t="3283">you know, when you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3286" data-t="3286">got together with her in Nashville,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3288" data-t="3288">how you communicated with her? Was it like over some sort of privacy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3293" data-t="3293">app or did you have to go back and forth on fountain boost especially? No. No. Trust me. When</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3299">54:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3299" data-t="3299">when she's got an interest in you, she will find you on no stir. She will zap</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3303" data-t="3303">your profile with 69</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3306" data-t="3306">zaps</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3308" data-t="3308">until</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3308">you message her.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3311" data-t="3311">That's how it works out. Interesting.</span></span></p> +