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+title: "Transcript: Noncompliant 4th of July | Bugle Weekly Episode 15"
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+date: 2024-07-01
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-6">0:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-6" data-t="6">Only for the two out in 1776.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-10" data-t="10">Non compliant individuals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-12" data-t="12">had effects.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-13" data-t="13">They did not like being ruled by the British.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-16" data-t="16">They were not docile or skittish.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-20" data-t="20">With pen and parchment, they enshrined their defiance,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-23">0:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-23" data-t="23">creating what is now called the American Alliance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-26" data-t="26">Fouted on being undaunted,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-53" data-t="53">first</span> <span class="cue" id="t-54" data-t="54">time</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-83">1:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-83" data-t="83">so they will act hostile,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-85" data-t="85">but do not lose hope.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-87" data-t="87">The revolution</span> <span class="cue" id="t-88" data-t="88">is happening. The answer to 1984</span> <span class="cue" id="t-91" data-t="91">is becoming a proper fool.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-99" data-t="99">Drive without your seat belt.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-102">1:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-102" data-t="102">This is what waiting looks like.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-105" data-t="105">Take back your pride. Embrace freedom. Do not hide. Only fools follow the rules.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-112" data-t="112">All across the country,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-114" data-t="114">the people are awakening.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-116" data-t="116">Politicians are quivering and shaking. They fear a population that is not docile.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-122" data-t="122">They are afraid so they will lack act hostile, but do not lose hope.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-127">2:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-127" data-t="127">The revolution is happening. The answer to 1984</span> <span class="cue" id="t-131" data-t="131">is becoming a wonderful.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-138" data-t="138">Now is the time to celebrate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-140" data-t="140">the past by ushering in a new freedom that will last.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-144" data-t="144">Adopting a mindset that the rulers are tools embracing reality</span> <span class="cue" id="t-149" data-t="149">instead of psy ops by CIA</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-151">2:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-151" data-t="151">fools.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-174">2:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-174" data-t="174">There is a new digital frontier being built on non compliant protocols.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-179" data-t="179">These protocols power the engine for the value for value economy and communities like the intellectual Silk Road.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-186" data-t="186">Now you can learn about these developments by listening to Plebchain Radio.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-190" data-t="190">Plebchain Radio is the number one live podcast covering cutting edge tech being built on Nosta and Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-197" data-t="197">Join Plebchain Radio's noncompliant cohosts Quiet Warrior and Avi Burra Live as they record each week on Nests, Nosta's answer to x spaces.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-207" data-t="207">You can also listen to Plebchain Radio on Fountain FM where you can boost them SATs to support their content.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-214">3:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-214" data-t="214">A revolution in techno sovereignty is coming. This revolution won't be PodConf approved</span> <span class="cue" id="t-219" data-t="219">and it won't be televised</span> <span class="cue" id="t-221" data-t="221">or tweeted.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-223" data-t="223">It's all happening on Nosta and Plebchain Radio.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-230">3:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-230" data-t="230">This July 4, America will gather to remember the noncompliance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-235" data-t="235">of the founding fathers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-237" data-t="237">While many individuals think this holiday is about celebrating complying with a government founded on non compliance,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-243" data-t="243">the real American experience</span> <span class="cue" id="t-245" data-t="245">is about reconnecting with its non compliant roots.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-249" data-t="249">All over the country,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-250">4:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-250" data-t="250">Americans are preparing to engage in record levels of non compliance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-254" data-t="254">This July 4, the people will be driving without seatbelts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-258" data-t="258">transacting without KYC,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-260" data-t="260">and showing general disdain for those who want to surveil and tax us.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-265" data-t="265">This holiday is not about celebrating how much money has been given to Ukraine, but is about celebrating all the money taken out of the taxable economy that would have been sent to Ukraine, but stayed in our communities instead.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-276" data-t="276">This July 4, let's embrace the cypherpunk ethos and sell each other cigarettes peer to peer. This is our Boston Tea Party. This is our Independence Day. The solution to 1984</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-288">4:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-288" data-t="288">is 1776.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-294">4:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-294" data-t="294">You are listening to the Bugle Weekly, the most thermodynamically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-298" data-t="298">sound podcast in the game.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-300" data-t="300">Here are your hosts, Rod Palmer and Dick Greaser.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-305">5:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-305" data-t="305">Alright. We're recording.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-307" data-t="307">Welcome to the Eagle Weekly podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-311" data-t="311">How are you doing today, Rod?</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-313">5:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-313" data-t="313">Pretty tired. It's a big it was a huge week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-317" data-t="317">A lot to a lot to talk about, a lot to get to today. How was your,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-321" data-t="321">week? Do you have any big plans? Are you a big patriotic American when it comes to fourth of July?</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-327">5:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-327" data-t="327">You got anything big going on? Man, yeah, that's right on the horizon.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-331" data-t="331">I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-333" data-t="333">on the July 4,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-335" data-t="335">it's very important to just act as non compliantly as possible.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-340">5:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-340" data-t="340">Okay.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-341">5:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-341" data-t="341">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-342" data-t="342">there's nothing more American than smoking non KYC cigarettes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-347" data-t="347">And so what I would suggest</span> <span class="cue" id="t-350" data-t="350">for everybody to do</span> <span class="cue" id="t-352" data-t="352">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-355" data-t="355">to load up your favorite custodial lightning wallet and when you go to an event,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-361">6:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-361" data-t="361">bring some cigarettes with you and just start, you know, transacting and selling them. If you're gonna go to the park, you're gonna be watching some fireworks,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-369" data-t="369">you know, have have a few cartons and and have a sign that's, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-375" data-t="375">you you can make a pretty good profit on it. When when you're selling, I I I think a good</span> <span class="cue" id="t-381" data-t="381">amount of Satoshis to price a single cigarette is, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-385" data-t="385">1,000 satoshis, which is, you know, like 75¢</span> <span class="cue" id="t-389" data-t="389">or so</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-390">6:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-390" data-t="390">right now.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-393">6:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-393" data-t="393">Man, I never used to be able to buy them for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-395" data-t="395">a quarter. Yeah. I mean, that's inflation's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-398" data-t="398">crazy.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-399">6:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-399" data-t="399">Well, I mean, you could charge, you can charge it more, you know, fair market value, but I I just think around</span> <span class="cue" id="t-406" data-t="406">1,000</span> <span class="cue" data-t="406">satoshis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-409" data-t="409">is a good price. But yeah, I mean, there there's such a, you know, when you look at The US</span> <span class="cue" id="t-414" data-t="414">and you look at the cigarette markets,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-417" data-t="417">nationally, there's such a wide variance in pricing. So, like, here in New York,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-422">7:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-422" data-t="422">KYC cigarettes are very expensive, but if you go to Virginia,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-427" data-t="427">they can be very cheap. And so, you know, when you're engaging in the non KYC markets,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-433" data-t="433">you can,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-434" data-t="434">route around</span> <span class="cue" id="t-436" data-t="436">all the thefts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-437" data-t="437">that are added onto the cigarette price,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-441">7:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-441" data-t="441">and get them for more of a market value.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-444">7:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-444" data-t="444">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-445" data-t="445">Growing up, I knew some people that they would buy non KYC cigarettes from the nearby</span> <span class="cue" id="t-452" data-t="452">Indian reservations, the native American reserves,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-456" data-t="456">and they would buy the Indian cigarettes is what they called them. Because if you bought them from the reservation,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-461" data-t="461">you didn't have to pay all the state taxes and all the other taxes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-465" data-t="465">that, that go on cigarettes.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-467">7:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-467" data-t="467">And you used to be able to get them non KYC, but then they changed it. And this is right around the time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-474" data-t="474">that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-475" data-t="475">the credit card started, people started using PayPal and some of these other payment processors are online and it made buying Indian cigarettes so much easier. You would just go online. You could even do a subscription to some of these places and you just put it in your, your credit card or your debit card or your bank account, and who you were, and they would mail you your cigarettes. It was so cheap and easy. And you save like more than 50%</span> <span class="cue" id="t-496" data-t="496">on the price.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-497" data-t="497">If you, from buying them in, you know, a retail location,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-501" data-t="501">that had to pay the state taxes and they, and the sales tax.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-505">8:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-505" data-t="505">And then one day they got a big,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-508" data-t="508">a letter from the state of, I won't say what state it is. I don't, I don't wanna dodge them, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-515" data-t="515">they all the taxes that they owed on the, you know, thousands of cigarettes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-520" data-t="520">cartons of cigarettes that they'd been buying over the years with their KYC</span> <span class="cue" id="t-524" data-t="524">cigarettes, excuse me, with, you know, through this, with their credit card and they owed it and they had to fight it. And I think they lost, if I remember, if I recall correctly, but as it happens, they were, they had a great situation buying non KYC cigarettes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-538" data-t="538">Everybody was benefiting mutually in the transaction and they were avoiding taxes. But then as soon as they KYC'd themselves, the government was able to get that information and send them a tax bill, even though they were buying,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-550">9:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-550" data-t="550">from a reservation where the taxes did not apply.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-553" data-t="553">And it was not illegal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-555" data-t="555">previously,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-557" data-t="557">for them to do that. Like there was no law saying that what they were doing was wrong, but they still had to pay the taxes and they still had to pay the penalties for the back taxes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-565" data-t="565">So that's just a cautionary tale, but if you can buy those non KYC cigarettes for cash or for Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-573" data-t="573">you avoid these problems. So it's a non compliance that also starves the state. Yeah. I mean, it's it's very American. So, like, the founding fathers, they,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-583">9:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-583" data-t="583">decided to go,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-584" data-t="584">you know, throw a bunch of tea in the water in Boston Harbor</span> <span class="cue" id="t-588" data-t="588">during the Boston Tea Party because they didn't like k y c tea.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-593" data-t="593">Didn't like text.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-595" data-t="595">Tea,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-597">9:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-597" data-t="597">it was Right. Like drinking tea is gay. And like now they were their identity was associated to buying and drinking tea like they British dudes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-605" data-t="605">And that was really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-606" data-t="606">hard to maintain, like their statesman, you know, alpha,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-612" data-t="612">and into, you know, image as an influencer, a colonial influencer, if everybody knows you're drinking tea like the, like the damn slimy Brits. Yeah.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-621">10:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-621" data-t="621">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-623" data-t="623">that's what transacting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-624" data-t="624">and selling non KYC cigarettes is all about is it's our version of the Boston Tea Party. And so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-631" data-t="631">that's why it should be one of the primary goals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-636" data-t="636">this July 4</span> <span class="cue" id="t-637" data-t="637">to open up this peer to peer</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-641">10:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-641" data-t="641">economy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-643" data-t="643">and to know that it's happening at scale because, you know, even if you're a pussy and you decide not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-649" data-t="649">to follow through with your civic duty,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-653" data-t="653">in doing this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-654" data-t="654">if you don't post</span> <span class="cue" id="t-656" data-t="656">a meme about how gay the ETF is</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-659">10:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-659" data-t="659">and then,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-661" data-t="661">transact and defy their authority,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-664" data-t="664">even if you're not willing to do that yourself</span> <span class="cue" id="t-668" data-t="668">and to grow a pair,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-670" data-t="670">and be a real American, just know that there's millions of real Americans around the country</span> <span class="cue" id="t-676" data-t="676">that are participating</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-678">11:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-678" data-t="678">in non compliance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-680" data-t="680">despite you being a pussy.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-682">11:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-682" data-t="682">Right, think about how when I was growing up, it was illegal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-686" data-t="686">to shoot off certain,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-688" data-t="688">the fireworks that are fun, the fireworks that are not for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-692" data-t="692">shit, coining little pussies, that is like a sparkler, the ones that are actually cool. Those were illegal. Of course. So we would go to another state and we would buy them. We'd found hundreds of dollars. They'd put up tents for non compliant fireworks, right on the border</span> <span class="cue" id="t-705" data-t="705">and we'd bring them back and we, and we'd have so much fun. I mean, we would be shooting Roman candles at each other, putting mortars in and like blasting them over the, the houses and trying to blow up the neighbor's backyard. Like, like if we were playing battleships, it was so much fun. Think about how much fun you should be having instead of using a little sparkler and be like, Wow, but the other man only lets me use this little sparkler and I'm such a bitch that I will comply</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-728">12:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-728" data-t="728">on, on the mayor of his birthday instead of doing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-731" data-t="731">what my ancestors and my my great grandfather and his great grandfather did before him, which is blowing shit up and set stuff on fire and have a good time and drink some beer. Yep.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-742">12:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-742" data-t="742">Yeah. I mean, the the reality is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-746" data-t="746">you know, where</span> <span class="cue" id="t-748" data-t="748">where things have always been at historically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-751" data-t="751">is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-752" data-t="752">anything good is inherently gonna be illegal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-759" data-t="759">And so that that kinda brings us to the the first story. So, you know, Julian Assange,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-766">12:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-766" data-t="766">while not being American, is is much more of an American than most Americans. He's definitely more American than anybody else in Australia. Well, I mean, isn't Tip NZ in Australia? She's pretty American. New Zealand. New Zealand. She's pretty</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-780">13:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-780" data-t="780">that's different. It's like the South Of Australia. It's like Atlanta. I I think there should be there should be a rule</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-787">13:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-787" data-t="787">where, you know, if you're a funny talker, you shouldn't be able to move to another funny talking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-793" data-t="793">country.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-795" data-t="795">And this is really this is really confusing to to us Americans who speak properly. So, you know, Tip NZ,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-803" data-t="803">you know, an Australian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-804" data-t="804">moving to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-807" data-t="807">New Zealand.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-808">13:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-808" data-t="808">You've got Peter McCormick,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-810" data-t="810">a British person.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-813" data-t="813">You know, he's eventually gonna move to America, and we should we should borrow him moving here because it's just gonna create a lot of confusion.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-821" data-t="821">Like, you know, if you talk a certain way, you should live in the jurisdiction</span> <span class="cue" id="t-826" data-t="826">that that people talk like, you know, Bitcoin mechanic lives in Canada. He doesn't sound like a Canadian.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-832">13:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-832" data-t="832">Right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-833" data-t="833">And it's part of it is because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-836" data-t="836">people in the local area who don't talk funny like you do,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-841" data-t="841">they're not used to being able to discern like who's smart and who's not. Like people in a, in, in a small town in America, they might only hear the British funny accent</span> <span class="cue" id="t-852" data-t="852">on BBC or like some sort of movie</span> <span class="cue" id="t-855" data-t="855">where the person speaking it, you know, is a credentialed journalist. Oftentimes like you'll see somebody on BBC or you'll see somebody in the media who's a scientist or a credentialed journalist and they have the British accent</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-867">14:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-867" data-t="867">and so they think that everybody who has that accent</span> <span class="cue" id="t-871" data-t="871">is smart and and knows what they're talking about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-874" data-t="874">so that then you're able to scam people because they think that you're smart and they mistake you for being smart just because you have a British accent and like Peter McCormick's a perfect example. His podcast is very popular in The United States and people think this guy, he is really smart about Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-892" data-t="892">because he has a British access and he must be. And so that's why his podcast is so popular. And he</span> <span class="cue" id="t-899" data-t="899">has all these,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-902" data-t="902">sponsors. They're like, Oh, we have a soccer team and it's got Gemini on the front.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-908">15:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-908" data-t="908">He can sponsor this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-911" data-t="911">yield generating platform. And I'm like, Why trust him? Because a he's a smart person. He must be like a BBC hero. He must never recommend something like this if it wasn't a really good product.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-922" data-t="922">And Australians do it too. Australians are in The United States. They're selling alligator hooks and big knives and machetes because people are like, Wow, if they have that funny accent from Australia, they must really know about like wilderness and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-937" data-t="937">animals and hunting and being alpha and it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-940" data-t="940">easy to scale. Yeah.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-942">15:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-942" data-t="942">Yeah. I mean, it's, it's one of the biggest sign ups that has been,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-948" data-t="948">hoisted on the American people is that people are smarter because they have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-954" data-t="954">a British accent. And it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-956" data-t="956">it's just, like, so patently false.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-960" data-t="960">You know, it's a country where, you know, they're currently in the process of trying to ban smoking outright.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-967" data-t="967">I mean, there's so many there's so many aspects of of, you know, this this British royal monarchy. Like, this is something that, you know, King Charles has spent</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-978">16:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-978" data-t="978">a lot of time and money in the British royalty have in general is they they try to own the media</span> <span class="cue" id="t-985" data-t="985">and and they try to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-988" data-t="988">you know, convince</span> <span class="cue" id="t-990" data-t="990">people that, you know, the British are smarter. And that's why, you know, people listen to Piers Morgan,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-996" data-t="996">is just cause they hear it and they're like, oh, Bruce Jackson. He must know what he's talking about. When, you know, Piers has, you know, traditionally been one of the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1005" data-t="1005">he's been very anti American.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1009">16:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1009" data-t="1009">I don't know if you ever had the chance to listen to Piers Morgan debate Alex Jones back when Alex Jones was trying to get Piers deported.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1017" data-t="1017">But that was a pretty good interview.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1020">16:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1020" data-t="1020">No. I haven't seen that one. It just makes me think that, like, another person who who has that accent, who's not even you know, he doesn't even look British, is Andrew Tate, but he knows if he has that accent</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1032" data-t="1032">that people will</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1034" data-t="1034">recognize it as authoritative.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1036">17:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1036" data-t="1036">I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1037" data-t="1037">just because you have a British accent doesn't mean you attended Oxford.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1041" data-t="1041">Like, that's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1044" data-t="1044">yeah. I mean, would you would you consider Tate one of those scammers that you were just talking about? I don't know if there's enough evidence to show say that that Tate is a scammer,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1053">17:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1053" data-t="1053">but if anything, he is using the tactics of a scammer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1058" data-t="1058">which is disguising his voice to sound really smart.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1062" data-t="1062">So it's something to keep an eye on. When you see somebody who is using all the same tactics as a scammer or the same tactics as a politician</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1070" data-t="1070">but they seem to be different You're like, oh, this person is different They are the hack They're actually trying to out me</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1076" data-t="1076">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1077" data-t="1077">they're just using the tactics of the enemy</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1080">17:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1080" data-t="1080">against</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1081" data-t="1081">them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1082" data-t="1082">Well, I understand that, you know, it's more likely than not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1086" data-t="1086">that they are also</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1087" data-t="1087">part of the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1089" data-t="1089">bad side of the enemy</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1090">18:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1090" data-t="1090">and A) that's why they're so good at using those tactics because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1095" data-t="1095">you can't get that good at using those tactics or having that accent 20 fourseven.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1100" data-t="1100">If you haven't,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1101" data-t="1101">if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1102" data-t="1102">you haven't lived and you haven't experienced or you haven't been a part of that, that culture or that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1108" data-t="1108">that group.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1110">18:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1110" data-t="1110">So there's even if you if they say they're out of it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1113" data-t="1113">that still very much influences everything that they do and say.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1117">18:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1117" data-t="1117">Interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1119" data-t="1119">Yeah. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1121" data-t="1121">I I'd be curious to hear what Pleditor's opinion on Andrew Tate is because he's the residential expert on exposing scammers.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1129">18:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1129" data-t="1129">Pleditor has Bersh accent, but it's it's real. You</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1133">18:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1133" data-t="1133">well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1134" data-t="1134">man.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1135" data-t="1135">See, and this is this is, you know, one of the dangers of having all these nims</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1141" data-t="1141">online</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1142" data-t="1142">is we need to be able to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1145" data-t="1145">to hear their voices, to be able to determine, you know, whether they're funny talkers or not and whether we should take them serious or not. Because, like Or if they have deep voices.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1156">19:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1156" data-t="1156">Yeah. Or if they have deep voices. Or if they're whiny. You know? If they sound whiny, or they just sound</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1163" data-t="1163">they just don't sound alpha.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1166">19:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1166" data-t="1166">Yeah. Or if they're weird.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1169" data-t="1169">Yeah. If if people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1171" data-t="1171">if you sound like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1174" data-t="1174">you'd be a good cast member on The View,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1178" data-t="1178">you probably don't have a very good opinion on things. That's a gay axiom.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1183" data-t="1183">Okay, so</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1185">19:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1185" data-t="1185">the initial topic that I think is important to talk about, you know, before we got sidetracked</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1190" data-t="1190">by all these</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1192" data-t="1192">incredibly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1193" data-t="1193">inconsiderate funny talkers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1196" data-t="1196">is Assange.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1199" data-t="1199">So he's he's out of prison, he's back in Australia,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1205">20:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1205" data-t="1205">and I think it's a it's a major victory</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1208" data-t="1208">for journalism, and I I have a little bit of a contrarian take. So, like, a lot of people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1213" data-t="1213">on Twitter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1215" data-t="1215">and, you know, just around people that, you know, float their opinions online,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1221" data-t="1221">a lot of them are upset that he was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1224" data-t="1224">he was</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1227">20:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1227" data-t="1227">charged with anything and that he wasn't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1230" data-t="1230">just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1231" data-t="1231">completely,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1232" data-t="1232">Exonerated.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1233" data-t="1233">Exonerated.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1234" data-t="1234">Yeah.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1235">20:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1235" data-t="1235">He deserved he deserved to be pardoned and let go</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1239" data-t="1239">because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1240" data-t="1240">people believe this. This is the majority opinion</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1244" data-t="1244">which is that he deserved to be freed and pardoned of all crimes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1249" data-t="1249">because he did nothing wrong. Journalism is not a crime</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1253" data-t="1253">And so it was unjust for him to</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1256">20:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1256" data-t="1256">be detained in the first place to be,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1260" data-t="1260">sent back to The United States for any trial at all because there was no crime committed. That's what many people believe. However,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1266" data-t="1266">in your opinion,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1268" data-t="1268">that is not how you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1270" data-t="1270">think it's good that he made this plea deal.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1273">21:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1273" data-t="1273">Yeah, I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1275" data-t="1275">it's very important because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1278" data-t="1278">the people out there need to understand,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1281" data-t="1281">one, that Julian Assange</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1283" data-t="1283">is easily the most important,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1286" data-t="1286">you know, journalist in history, in my opinion.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1289">21:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1289" data-t="1289">You know, and and part of the reason why is because he was, you know, the first noteworthy journalist to get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1297" data-t="1297">deplatformed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1298" data-t="1298">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1300" data-t="1300">shut out from the banking system. And so Bitcoin allowed him</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1303">21:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1303" data-t="1303">He was the person who basically invented the Bitcoin value for value economy.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1308">21:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1308" data-t="1308">Yes.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1309">21:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1309" data-t="1309">The pioneer, the OG of the value for value,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1313" data-t="1313">getting boosted for your content. That was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1315" data-t="1315">that was Julian Assange in WikiLeaks.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1318">21:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1318" data-t="1318">Yeah. And and even as he got released from prison, he had to take an expensive plane ride to make sure that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1325" data-t="1325">the spirits didn't, you know, try to pull any funny business on him, you know, because there's a lot of people that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1331" data-t="1331">that don't like him. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1334" data-t="1334">no. I mean, somebody somebody donated to him, you know, and continued the value for value,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1339" data-t="1339">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1340" data-t="1340">platform forward. You know, somebody gave him half $1,000,000</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1343">22:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1343" data-t="1343">in Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1346" data-t="1346">which is, you know, very, very impressive. I mean, imagine getting a fountain boost of that size. That'd be great. That is probably</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1353">22:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1353" data-t="1353">the the the record,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1356" data-t="1356">podcast fountain based</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1358" data-t="1358">or article based right there. Like that is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1361" data-t="1361">a,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1363" data-t="1363">some sort of signal that that is his work, his entire body of work that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1368" data-t="1368">he's done up until this point is worth is very valuable.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1373">22:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1373" data-t="1373">Yeah. But, anyway, so the the reason why</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1377" data-t="1377">I think it was important that he took the plea deal and that he was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1382" data-t="1382">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1384" data-t="1384">agreed to be in the wrong,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1387" data-t="1387">is that people need to understand that that real journalism,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1391" data-t="1391">not only is it cypherpunk,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1393">23:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1393" data-t="1393">you know, like like he was doing that in the way that he was using, you know, the Bitcoin value for value economy, but, you know, also using,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1402" data-t="1402">cryptography,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1403" data-t="1403">you know, to communicate,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1407" data-t="1407">and using the Internet to publish, you know, all of it being very,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1411" data-t="1411">cipher punk.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1414" data-t="1414">But, you know, real journalism is always illegal and it's always non compliant.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1420">23:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1420" data-t="1420">And part of the reason why is because the people that make the laws are also non compliant but they use those laws in order to try to force you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1431" data-t="1431">to just accept, you know, whatever their dastardly,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1436" data-t="1436">plans are.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1438" data-t="1438">And so when you call them out for what they're doing, that's inherently gonna be a non compliant activity.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1445" data-t="1445">And so he he showed he showed the world,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1449" data-t="1449">you know, just this week, you know, by accepting that plea deal that journalism</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1454">24:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1454" data-t="1454">that cypherpunk journalism is non compliant.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1457">24:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1457" data-t="1457">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1459" data-t="1459">If a journalist has</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1461" data-t="1461">a Pulitzer prize or a Nobel prize,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1464" data-t="1464">that is a fiat award.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1466" data-t="1466">The only way that you can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1469" data-t="1469">tell the best journalists</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1471">24:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1471" data-t="1471">from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1472" data-t="1472">the LARPs, the pretenders,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1474" data-t="1474">is the real journalists, the best journalists,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1477" data-t="1477">they have criminal records.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1479" data-t="1479">The plea deal is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1482" data-t="1482">proof in putting</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1483">24:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1483" data-t="1483">that Julian Assange</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1485" data-t="1485">is a noncompliant journalist and that his journalism</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1488" data-t="1488">is real, that his his story is that he's exposing real problems. Yeah. I mean, he</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1495">24:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1495" data-t="1495">he was one of the first, you know, if not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1499" data-t="1499">the very first notable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1501" data-t="1501">example that was able to show the world how non compliant the CIA is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1506" data-t="1506">Right. And and that is one of the most</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1510" data-t="1510">important services to humanity,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1512" data-t="1512">you know, any</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1515">25:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1515" data-t="1515">any journalist could ever do.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1517">25:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1517" data-t="1517">You could you could almost look at it through the lens</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1521" data-t="1521">that the CIA</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1522" data-t="1522">is giving</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1523" data-t="1523">Julian Assange an award. It's saying real, recognize real. We're non compliant, and we recognize that you're non compliant too.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1532">25:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1532" data-t="1532">Yeah. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1534" data-t="1534">Even though they gave him that award, they they sure, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1537" data-t="1537">made him feel you know, really work hard for it. He he had to spend twelve years, you know, essentially locked</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1544" data-t="1544">up between</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1547" data-t="1547">the the Ecuadorian,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1549" data-t="1549">like, I think they made it very difficult for him to smoke cigarettes the whole time he was incarcerated.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1554">25:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1554" data-t="1554">Exactly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1555" data-t="1555">He was held or he was forced, he was clonored</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1559" data-t="1559">into</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1561" data-t="1561">places that were, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1564" data-t="1564">no smoking allowed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1566" data-t="1566">And as a non compliant journalist,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1569">26:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1569" data-t="1569">if he,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1570" data-t="1570">you know, tried to not comply and to smoke, he he would've gotten kicked out. So he had to, I mean, he, it was, it was, that was the torture.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1580" data-t="1580">Yeah.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1581">26:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1581" data-t="1581">And this is so you know, if you're a journalist and you're listening to us,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1587" data-t="1587">I think this is an important thing to, you know, to think about is, you know, if you're gonna continue on the path forward and you're gonna do real journalism,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1595" data-t="1595">like we are,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1597" data-t="1597">you're gonna eventually, you know, no matter how hard you try, you're gonna get to a point of noncompliance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1603" data-t="1603">And with that carries, you know, the risk of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1608" data-t="1608">you know, of coming into</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1610">26:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1610" data-t="1610">the scorn of these</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1613" data-t="1613">three letter agencies, the these other noncompliers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1617" data-t="1617">you know, and getting similar treatment to Assange.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1621" data-t="1621">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1622" data-t="1622">you know, if that's the case, why would you wait</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1625" data-t="1625">to learn how to transact</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1627">27:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1627" data-t="1627">in the value for value economy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1631" data-t="1631">and and to to, you know, be know how to properly trade non KYC cigarettes. Because that's like a very that's like the entire prison economy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1641" data-t="1641">runs off of non KYC cigarettes. And so why would you wait till you're on the inside</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1647" data-t="1647">to figure out that market instead of just starting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1650" data-t="1650">out on it now?</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1651">27:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1651" data-t="1651">Right, why would you even have an old Bitcoin if you're not going to pay non compliant journalists for their work?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1658" data-t="1658">And it's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1660" data-t="1660">you know, we talk a lot about credentials and I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1664" data-t="1664">a lot of people agree with me.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1666" data-t="1666">If you don't have a bachelor's degree in journalism,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1669" data-t="1669">but</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1671">27:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1671" data-t="1671">you do get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1672" data-t="1672">a criminal charge,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1675" data-t="1675">from The United States or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1677" data-t="1677">any government, any state,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1679" data-t="1679">for the work that you've done, for the journalism you've done, the content you've created I mean, that's like that's kind of the other way you can get credentials as a journalist in my opinion</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1688">28:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1688" data-t="1688">Yeah. Yeah. If you earn enough street cred,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1692" data-t="1692">through personal work, you can get, like, an honorary degree.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1696">28:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1696" data-t="1696">When do you think is next for Julian Assange?</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1700">28:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1700" data-t="1700">Well, you know, my hope for him</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1702" data-t="1702">is I think he's earned retirement.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1705" data-t="1705">And and I think this for, you know, multiple reasons. I think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1709" data-t="1709">you know, ultimately,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1712" data-t="1712">so I read the book Nineteen Eighty Four</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1715" data-t="1715">recently</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1716">28:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1716" data-t="1716">and I was kind of shocked at how similar George Orwell's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1721" data-t="1721">you know, writing style was to mine.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1725" data-t="1725">I had never noticed that before.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1727" data-t="1727">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1729" data-t="1729">if I,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1730" data-t="1730">you know, had been around when he was writing that book,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1734">28:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1734" data-t="1734">I could have probably given him a few tips to improve it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1738" data-t="1738">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1741" data-t="1741">you know, essentially in the story, this guy gets, you know, treated like Julian Assange did, where he gets locked up</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1748" data-t="1748">in a cage for a very long time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1750" data-t="1750">and, you know, essentially forced to, you know, comply and, you know, get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1755" data-t="1755">gets his brain pushed to the edge</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1758">29:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1758" data-t="1758">of losing his sanity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1760" data-t="1760">and isn't allowed to, you know, smoke cigarettes for a very long time. It's just kind of a gruesome, you know, brutal story that it that I think is important for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1769" data-t="1769">a lot of people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1771" data-t="1771">to read, you know, and that's why it's considered one of the classics.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1777" data-t="1777">It's because people foresee,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1779" data-t="1779">you know, foresaw stuff like this happening to Assange.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1783">29:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1783" data-t="1783">But anyways, you know, at the end of the story,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1786" data-t="1786">these people didn't comply,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1788" data-t="1788">and they were just kinda, like, beaten down</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1791" data-t="1791">and broken afterwards.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1793" data-t="1793">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1795" data-t="1795">and so,</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1796">29:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1796" data-t="1796">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1797" data-t="1797">he's been through a lot of, you know, psychological damage. He's been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1802" data-t="1802">he's been like, I I hope he's smoking a lot of cigarettes right now, you know, kinda</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1807" data-t="1807">decompressing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1809" data-t="1809">But I would I would say,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1811" data-t="1811">hopefully, he's having, you know, a good time. He he's doing some of the stuff that,</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1815">30:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1815" data-t="1815">you know, he wasn't able to do when he was in prison. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1820" data-t="1820">you know, during the time he's locked up was really the time that the Lightning Network,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1826" data-t="1826">you know, was becoming popular.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1830" data-t="1830">And so, hopefully, he'll be able to have the opportunity to sell some custodial Lightning transactions,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1836" data-t="1836">you know, buy some non KYC</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1839" data-t="1839">non KYC cigarettes.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1841">30:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1841" data-t="1841">Yeah. Yeah. I know a lot of people are expecting him to go on the PodCon tour,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1846" data-t="1846">but after what he's been through, I don't think he's gonna be going on any podcast here anytime</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1853" data-t="1853">soon nor nor should he. I mean, he he deserves</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1857" data-t="1857">he deserves some time, you know, to spend with his wife,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1860" data-t="1860">you know, with his family.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1863">31:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1863" data-t="1863">Yeah. It's his first time he gets to see his kids and really, like, raise his sons. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1868" data-t="1868">Yeah. And it, I think you're right. I, I, one of the things I would say</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1872" data-t="1872">is that because he's such a OG cipher punk,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1877" data-t="1877">I think if anybody knows</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1880" data-t="1880">how to hold out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1883" data-t="1883">and keep that light burning, if ever</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1887">31:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1887" data-t="1887">so softly,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1888" data-t="1888">deep, deep down,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1890" data-t="1890">buried by entropy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1891" data-t="1891">that the state still can't reach,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1894" data-t="1894">it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1895" data-t="1895">him. So if anybody</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1897">31:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1897" data-t="1897">has that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1898" data-t="1898">that light left inside of them that they can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1901" data-t="1901">burn again</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1902" data-t="1902">once they've gotten out of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1905" data-t="1905">the deepest clenches of the state, I would say it's him. I would hope it's him, so that would be encouraging. I think that he</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1914" data-t="1914">could resist the Orwellian</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1917">31:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1917" data-t="1917">punishment or humiliation, whatever you wanna call</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1920" data-t="1920">it, better than anyone. If anybody's been prepared, it's him.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1924">32:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1924" data-t="1924">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1926" data-t="1926">I I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1927" data-t="1927">that could be the case, and it would be pretty awesome if he got back in the arena</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1933" data-t="1933">and started, you know, practicing journalism again.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1937" data-t="1937">But I also think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1939" data-t="1939">you know, while while</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1941">32:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1941" data-t="1941">we wait in anticipation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1943" data-t="1943">to see how he responds and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1946" data-t="1946">and what he does following his release, that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1950" data-t="1950">there's nothing stopping us from, you know, kinda carrying on the work that he did. And that's the important message that I think. Instead of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1958" data-t="1958">you know, begging him to go on what Bitcoin did or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1963" data-t="1963">or,</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1964">32:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1964" data-t="1964">you know, whichever other, you know, Rogan or whichever other, you know, podcast that's out there in the pod comp toward, you know, wanting him to speak at the the Bitcoin Magazine conference in Nashville.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1976" data-t="1976">You know, how about we how about we try</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1980" data-t="1980">and, you know, support the journalists that, you know, are working</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1984" data-t="1984">in his stead?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1985" data-t="1985">Yeah.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1987">33:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1987" data-t="1987">Or better yet, be be the noncompliant journalist that you wish</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1991" data-t="1991">would get interviewed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1992" data-t="1992">by Peter McCormack</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1994" data-t="1994">or that you wish would get interviewed by Stefan Lavera, be that non compliant journalist</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1999" data-t="1999">who exposes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2002" data-t="2002">the powerful</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2003">33:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2003" data-t="2003">institutions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2004" data-t="2004">that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2006" data-t="2006">that kind of control</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2009" data-t="2009">what freedom they think that we're allowed to have.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2013" data-t="2013">I think that's an important message right now for people like me. I don't know. Maybe you have thoughts on this. Maybe you don't.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2020" data-t="2020">But maybe it's sidetracked, but I wonder you said that it's</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2024">33:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2024" data-t="2024">good for people to read nineteen eighty four, which I agree it's a great book. Like, do you think that there's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2030" data-t="2030">there's a certain amount of people in the world</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2033" data-t="2033">who I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2034" data-t="2034">think and this is an age old debate, too,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2037" data-t="2037">that a brave new world</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2039" data-t="2039">is a more fitting</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2042">34:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2042" data-t="2042">story to explain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2044" data-t="2044">the lives of a lot of people where it's not the state using these</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2049" data-t="2049">punitive measures. At least not from their perspective. They're just happy to take the pill that makes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2054" data-t="2054">makes the stress go away and to watch the cool the cool technology and the and the and the the exciting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2062" data-t="2062">sports or competitions or just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2066" data-t="2066">garbage bullshit that's on the TV</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2069">34:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2069" data-t="2069">and they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2070" data-t="2070">comply</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2071" data-t="2071">with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2073" data-t="2073">the state</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2074" data-t="2074">out of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2076" data-t="2076">willingness. They don't need to be forced. Yeah. How how do you think about that? Do you think a lot of people are are feeling</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2081">34:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2081" data-t="2081">they live in an authoritarian state or they're just completely zoned out? Yeah.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2087">34:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2087" data-t="2087">I mean, I think it's a mixture of both. I'm I'm currently in I'm I'm in the middle of Brave New World right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2093" data-t="2093">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2095" data-t="2095">so I I sorta get the references, but I don't wanna comment on it too much before I finish it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2102" data-t="2102">But it is very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2104" data-t="2104">very I mean, what are your thoughts on it? Have you read have you read both?</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2108">35:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2108" data-t="2108">Yeah. I need to read me reread Brave New World. It's been a long time, but it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2113" data-t="2113">to me like, I'll just read you kind of the the synopsis here. It's like largely set in the futuristic world state.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2121" data-t="2121">The people, the citizens are environmentally engineered into intelligence based social hierarchy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2127" data-t="2127">and not only anticipates huge scientific advancements in reproductive technology,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2132" data-t="2132">sleep learning,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2133" data-t="2133">psychological manipulation,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2134">35:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2134" data-t="2134">and classical conditioning that are combined to create a dystopian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2138" data-t="2138">society,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2139" data-t="2139">which is challenged by the story's protagonist. So as somebody going into this world, it's everybody's been engineered</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2146" data-t="2146">medically, biologically,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2148" data-t="2148">mentally</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2150" data-t="2150">to kind of try to find this</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2152">35:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2152" data-t="2152">optimal life,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2155" data-t="2155">and they've got</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2156" data-t="2156">bread and circuses</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2158" data-t="2158">through, you know, described through other terms They've got these pills like Selma that just relax them and it takes away their anxiety and makes life tolerable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2166" data-t="2166">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2167" data-t="2167">they seem to like that</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2169">36:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2169" data-t="2169">and they don't see</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2171" data-t="2171">the harsh, you know, maybe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2173" data-t="2173">they do see the harsh</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2175" data-t="2175">consequences</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2176" data-t="2176">to not playing along</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2179" data-t="2179">and they just choose to it's better, it's more comfortable, it's more fun,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2184">36:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2184" data-t="2184">it's more mindless to just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2187" data-t="2187">go with the engineering, go with the social engineering. It's society's trying to take you down.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2194">36:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2194" data-t="2194">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2195" data-t="2195">Yeah. I mean, they it's kind of incredible because I I think it's an important book to read</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2200" data-t="2200">for understanding the mind of Vitalik Biederin because he's a big he's for a while, he's been a big</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2208" data-t="2208">advocate</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2208">for,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2209" data-t="2209">you know, exploring the technology that's talked about</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2213">36:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2213" data-t="2213">in Brave New World. Like, he he really wants and and Charles Hoskinson too. Like, the for whatever reason, these guys, they have a fascination with the idea of putting babies on the block. They want they want</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2225" data-t="2225">children grown in what are called artificial wombs,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2229" data-t="2229">which is very similar to the world. They're groomers. They're digital</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2233">37:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2233" data-t="2233">groomers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2234" data-t="2234">Yeah.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2237">37:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2237" data-t="2237">So I think, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2240" data-t="2240">it's showcasing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2242" data-t="2242">what a lot of these</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2244" data-t="2244">these shitcoiners in the world view are,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2247" data-t="2247">like, what they wanna usher in.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2249" data-t="2249">And so</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2251">37:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2251" data-t="2251">I think it's good to be and and this is why,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2254" data-t="2254">you know, cigarettes in particular like, cigarettes are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2259" data-t="2259">they they cause your brain to think better</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2263" data-t="2263">and to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2265" data-t="2265">you know, essentially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2266" data-t="2266">be able to get out of the matrix that's created by the by the CIA journalist.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2272">37:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2272" data-t="2272">And this is something this is something that was amazing to me. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2277" data-t="2277">I,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2278" data-t="2278">you know, I think I'm not sure where you watch it, but I I watched CNN,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2283" data-t="2283">for the presidential debate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2287" data-t="2287">this week. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2289" data-t="2289">I don't think there was a single</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2292">38:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2292" data-t="2292">commentator</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2294" data-t="2294">on that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2296" data-t="2296">on that video stream that was not employed directly by the the CIA. And I think a lot of the country was unable to see that, but because I was smoking cigarettes actively as I was watching it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2309" data-t="2309">I was able to see that they were all spooks. That's interesting. I mean, there's a reason</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2315">38:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2315" data-t="2315">that they've banned smoking virtually everywhere. I mean, where where's one of the most illegal places to smoke cigarettes?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2322" data-t="2322">Schools.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2323" data-t="2323">Because they don't want kids</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2325" data-t="2325">to learn anything except for the narrative that they're teaching.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2329" data-t="2329">Cerets</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2331" data-t="2331">are definitely illegal in hospitals.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2334">38:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2334" data-t="2334">Why?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2335" data-t="2335">Because hospitals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2337" data-t="2337">are full of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2339" data-t="2339">of information and if you could see</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2342" data-t="2342">the chart</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2343" data-t="2343">through the bullshit,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2344">39:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2344" data-t="2344">you know, you could avoid a lot of paying a lot of high expensive bills</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2348" data-t="2348">procedures you don't need I mean, this is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2351" data-t="2351">they they've done everything they can to ban cigarettes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2354" data-t="2354">and they they push</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2357" data-t="2357">to the point where there's just all this peer pressure from society, not even the government, not even the laws that smoking is bad. And you have to go to these tiny crevices outside, even in the winter, in the cold or the rain.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2369" data-t="2369">And you have to stand outside</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2371">39:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2371" data-t="2371">20 feet away from a building,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2373" data-t="2373">to smoke a cigarette.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2375" data-t="2375">You know, very few people are willing to go that far,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2378" data-t="2378">but the non compliant people who resist those, those peer pressures who resist the state, they resist the taxes, everything</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2385" data-t="2385">to continue to do what they love</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2387" data-t="2387">smoke cigarettes, to use the natural medicine</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2391">39:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2391" data-t="2391">of seeing through government bullshit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2393" data-t="2393">and status lies and marketing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2396" data-t="2396">nicotine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2397" data-t="2397">and to smoke that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2398" data-t="2398">like that those people are enemies of the state and those and the state wants</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2403" data-t="2403">to cut them out, but they can't. They can't get rid of it. It keeps coming back,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2409">40:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2409" data-t="2409">but it helps you see through the bullshit and it helps you to see like during one of the most important</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2414" data-t="2414">productions, the presidential debates, it lets you see who's really in charge It's the spooks Everybody there was controlled</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2422" data-t="2422">down to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2423" data-t="2423">the microphones being cut, the audio that was allowed, the questions Everything was CIA approved And they had their own people in there to make sure that the content was created</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2433" data-t="2433">exactly how the CIA wants it to be. Yeah. I mean, the the CIA, they definitely</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2439">40:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2439" data-t="2439">they know how to do a good production. I'll I'll give them credit on that.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2444">40:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2444" data-t="2444">And the best time with producers and directors are CIA.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2449">40:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2449" data-t="2449">Yeah. Well, I mean, that's, like, you know, the the fast track to having a successful career in Hollywood is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2457" data-t="2457">like, you have to you have to eventually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2459" data-t="2459">you have to first get on the Epstein client list and then get referred into the CIA. And then Right. Then you can be the next Harvey Weinstein.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2468">41:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2468" data-t="2468">Exactly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2470" data-t="2470">Yeah. I mean, it's it's it's go ahead. Go ahead. We'll get to that. Yeah. So so you touched on something very important. So you you're talking about</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2479">41:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2479" data-t="2479">you're talking about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2481" data-t="2481">all these control mechanisms that are used to make smoking very difficult. So, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2486" data-t="2486">if you if you ever go through an airport on an airplane,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2490" data-t="2490">they say you can't smoke literally everywhere you go. There there's, like, a billion signs. So they're trying to they're trying to use</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2498" data-t="2498">this control</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2499" data-t="2499">reinforcing</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2500">41:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2500" data-t="2500">of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2502" data-t="2502">this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2504" data-t="2504">social conditioning</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2506" data-t="2506">by saying that you can't smoke a billion times</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2510" data-t="2510">all over the place.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2511" data-t="2511">And so that's like that's kind of like the Orwellian</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2514">41:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2514" data-t="2514">side of things where there's all this reinforcement</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2517" data-t="2517">to, you know, support big brother, you know, yada yada yada. You talk about thought crimes because, you know, smoking cigarette in our society is inherently a thought crime.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2526" data-t="2526">And then, you know, what they try to do, you know, and this is where the Brave New World side comes into it. They they try to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2534" data-t="2534">get you connected with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2537" data-t="2537">you know, the synthetic alternatives,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2539" data-t="2539">which, you know,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2541">42:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2541" data-t="2541">lack a lot of the the beneficial qualities of of the tobacco.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2546">42:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2546" data-t="2546">Right. The carcinogens.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2548">42:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2548" data-t="2548">Yeah. Because the the nicotine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2550" data-t="2550">is not necessarily,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2552" data-t="2552">you know, the sole</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2554" data-t="2554">chemical working in the in the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2557" data-t="2557">cigarettes that that helps you think better. It's all the other stuff that they put in there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2561" data-t="2561">Right.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2562">42:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2562" data-t="2562">It's the the pesticides</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2564" data-t="2564">that are used to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2566" data-t="2566">to grow the tobacco. I mean, you don't get that when you're using a product like ZYN or JUUL.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2572">42:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2572" data-t="2572">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2573" data-t="2573">it's divorced from its roots. It's divorced from a plant. It's divorced from Earth. It's divorced from from God. If that's what you believe it's divorced from truth. It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2582" data-t="2582">it's isolated.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2584" data-t="2584">It's so that only the CIA</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2586" data-t="2586">knows exactly which chemical you're ingesting on every puff. And so they know the content they can give you with the cigarettes. There's there's so many chemicals. There's so many benefits that it's impossible to isolate. They can't control</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2599" data-t="2599">your,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2600">43:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2600" data-t="2600">your experience,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2602" data-t="2602">but with isolated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2604" data-t="2604">isolated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2605" data-t="2605">chemicals,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2606" data-t="2606">They know exactly how you'll respond</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2608" data-t="2608">to to their content when you hear it.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2612">43:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2612" data-t="2612">Yeah. I mean, tobacco is just a plant, man.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2615" data-t="2615">Right. And, like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2617" data-t="2617">yeah. I mean, they're they're essentially taking,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2620" data-t="2620">you know, something really good and important, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2623" data-t="2623">and a lot of Americans don't understand the importance of tobacco in American history as being one of the most</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2629" data-t="2629">important crops in North America</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2631">43:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2631" data-t="2631">historically.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2634" data-t="2634">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2636" data-t="2636">yeah, I mean, they're taking it and they're they're making</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2640" data-t="2640">a mockery of it and they're they're providing people these, you know, pharmaceutical</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2646" data-t="2646">products</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2648" data-t="2648">kinda lauded as safer alternatives,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2651">44:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2651" data-t="2651">when in reality, they're not safer alternatives because they're they're one</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2656" data-t="2656">I mean, they don't they don't they don't help you become more of a, you know, a masculine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2662" data-t="2662">free thinker like cigarettes do.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2665" data-t="2665">Right. I mean, you just look at the Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Take take a poll, like, here here's the homework for the listener this week. Take a poll of the people that you know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2675" data-t="2675">and and find the people that vape</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2677" data-t="2677">and compare them to the people that smoke.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2680">44:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2680" data-t="2680">And you you I mean, you could get real scientific with this if you wanted to. If you wanted to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2686" data-t="2686">like, take their testosterone</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2688" data-t="2688">levels and, you know, various</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2693" data-t="2693">things like that, you know, rank them by BMI or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2694" data-t="2694">various stuff like that, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2696" data-t="2696">inherently what you'll find</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2699">44:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2699" data-t="2699">is that the smokers are more masculine.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2702" data-t="2702">They're the free thinkers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2704" data-t="2704">they're the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2705" data-t="2705">smarter individuals.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2707">45:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2707" data-t="2707">Think about it. If you go back</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2711" data-t="2711">to 2000,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2712" data-t="2712">George W. Bush was president</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2714" data-t="2714">and the vice president,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2717" data-t="2717">a lot of things happened during</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2719" data-t="2719">George Bush's first presidency, his first term. And a lot of people are under the, the belief that from that point on</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2727">45:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2727" data-t="2727">that Dick Cheney, the vice president was actually running everything because he was smarter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2731" data-t="2731">He's more decisive.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2733" data-t="2733">He was, had more vision. He was more disciplined politically.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2737" data-t="2737">And Cheney was a, you know, a long time smoker, a cigarette smoker, George Bush wasn't.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2742" data-t="2742">And so even, even in a position where you have a president and a vice president when one smokes and the other doesn't,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2748" data-t="2748">the vice president, at least the least the most recent example I could think of, the vice president actually</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2754">45:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2754" data-t="2754">ran the country. It was because, you know, he was smarter and he was a better decision maker and it's, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2760" data-t="2760">very I think a very,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2763" data-t="2763">not it's not unrealistic to think that cigarettes played a big part.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2768">46:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2768" data-t="2768">Totally. Yeah. I mean, anybody in any political administration</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2772" data-t="2772">that that calls the shots. So, like, I know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2775" data-t="2775">I know a lot of people have been thinking that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2778" data-t="2778">Michelle Obama</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2780" data-t="2780">and Hunter Biden have been running the Biden administration.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2784">46:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2784" data-t="2784">I've heard rumors that they they thought</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2787" data-t="2787">that they were giving Biden's zen</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2789" data-t="2789">to help him during</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2791" data-t="2791">the during the debate that he was given a nicotine, but imagine how much better he would have been if he was smuck at cigarettes instead.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2797">46:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2797" data-t="2797">Yeah. I mean, that's a problem. That's I think that's that's the reason why</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2802" data-t="2802">he sucks so bad in that debate, was that he was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2806" data-t="2806">cigarette deficient. He might not have been nicotine deficient, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2811" data-t="2811">yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2813" data-t="2813">I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2814" data-t="2814">Trump's whole family, they're they're</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2817">46:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2817" data-t="2817">they're closet smokers. Like, this is something, you know, I had David Bailey reach out to me and that was one of his impressions that he want of of the former president that he wanted to pass along to me</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2829">47:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2829" data-t="2829">was that, you know, behind the scenes he would smoke. I mean, that makes sense. I mean, that might be why his face has stayed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2837" data-t="2837">from the smoke. That's maybe that's what he's trying to try to make sure people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2842" data-t="2842">recognize the signal saying, hey,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2845" data-t="2845">things are safe, like I smoked before this.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2848">47:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2848" data-t="2848">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2850" data-t="2850">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2851" data-t="2851">and this was a topic that we talked about before, which was interesting was that this is the first</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2856" data-t="2856">presidential debate that I'm aware of, at least in recent history.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2862" data-t="2862">I'm not a credentialed historian even though I'm a credentialed journalist,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2866" data-t="2866">but,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2868">47:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2868" data-t="2868">it was the first debate in recent history that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2872" data-t="2872">one of the candidates</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2874" data-t="2874">was openly non compliant. And what I mean by that is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2878" data-t="2878">Donald Trump</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2880" data-t="2880">has a felony on his record now.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2883">48:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2883" data-t="2883">Right. Exactly. This was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2886" data-t="2886">the first</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2887" data-t="2887">felon versus</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2889" data-t="2889">non felon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2890" data-t="2890">presidential debate in history.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2892" data-t="2892">And it's, it's interesting because the media,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2896">48:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2896" data-t="2896">the consensus</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2898" data-t="2898">by just about everybody who watched it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2901" data-t="2901">is that the felon won.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2903" data-t="2903">And that is a big turning point, I think, in this non compliant movement</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2910" data-t="2910">Donald Trump,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2912" data-t="2912">you know, you can accuse him of a lot of things, but you can't accuse him of not being,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2918">48:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2918" data-t="2918">a civilly non compliant actor right at this point He's doing it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2922" data-t="2922">for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2924" data-t="2924">a bigger cause and he won that debate and he's winning in the portals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2928" data-t="2928">When you see the presidential polls, it's kind of a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2932" data-t="2932">are we making the noncompliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2934" data-t="2934">government</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2936">48:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2936" data-t="2936">comply</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2937" data-t="2937">through our civil law compliance?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2939" data-t="2939">So far,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2940" data-t="2940">the polls are saying that we are winning. Yeah.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2943">49:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2943" data-t="2943">I mean, it's pretty interesting. It's just like it's been a really big week for the compliance strike,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2949" data-t="2949">and I think that's something that's really important to to notate,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2954" data-t="2954">and and hopefully the listener understands is, you know, we have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2959" data-t="2959">noncompliance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2960" data-t="2960">all around, top to bottom. You know, Julian Assange getting released,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2967" data-t="2967">admitting to his own noncompliance,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2971">49:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2971" data-t="2971">you know, a noncompliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2973" data-t="2973">individual winning a presidential</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2975" data-t="2975">debate on a large scale. I mean, the people are seen</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2979" data-t="2979">right now. Yeah.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2982">49:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2982" data-t="2982">Representation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2983" data-t="2983">is important.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2984" data-t="2984">When you are a noncompliant person</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2986" data-t="2986">and you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2988" data-t="2988">sit down at night with your kids</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2990" data-t="2990">and you watch a presidential debate or you watch the news and you see</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2995">49:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2995" data-t="2995">a non compliant person</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2998" data-t="2998">in a position of authority or winning</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3000" data-t="3000">you know, a debate, which is a presidential debate is one of the most intellectual</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3005" data-t="3005">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3006" data-t="3006">genuine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3008" data-t="3008">conversations and debates about what is right and wrong and what a country's</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3012">50:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3012" data-t="3012">values are. And when you see the non compliant person winning and everybody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3017" data-t="3017">agreeing with that, I mean, it's it's it's just that representation as a non compliant person, you feel like you can do anything, you can be president.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3025" data-t="3025">If a non compliant person can become pro's a felon, then you you can too.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3031">50:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3031" data-t="3031">Yeah. I mean, I'm sure what every what everybody,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3034" data-t="3034">you know, sitting in prison today is thinking is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3038" data-t="3038">they could be the next president of The United States. And like maybe this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3042" data-t="3042">this could be an interesting path forward for Ross Ulbricht</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3046" data-t="3046">once he gets,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3048">50:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3048" data-t="3048">he gets pardoned and released. Yeah. I mean, maybe the next time Disney</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3052" data-t="3052">makes a new remake and, you know, they should change the main character</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3057" data-t="3057">to not apply it.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3058">50:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3058" data-t="3058">Yeah. Yeah. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3060" data-t="3060">yeah. I think that would</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3063" data-t="3063">be that would be an issue. Like, I I don't have a lot of hope for Disney. I mean, they they've kinda</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3069" data-t="3069">they've they've essentially moved headquarters to Langley,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3073" data-t="3073">and I don't think there's coming back from that.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3076">51:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3076" data-t="3076">It's sad to see. Ron DeSantis made Ron DeSantis basically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3080" data-t="3080">told them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3081" data-t="3081">to run back to Virginia.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3084">51:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3084" data-t="3084">And that's what they're doing. Alright. Well, let's do some found a boost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3089" data-t="3089">But but before we get into those, I wanna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3092" data-t="3092">I wanna talk about something interesting that's happening right now. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3096" data-t="3096">currently,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3098" data-t="3098">we're</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3098">let me refresh the page. But on,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3103">51:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3103" data-t="3103">Lincoin mining pool, so the the mesh to Dell, if you're not familiar with who the mesh to Dell is, it's a group of individuals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3110" data-t="3110">that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3111" data-t="3111">you know, are pretty tight knit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3114" data-t="3114">with the ungovernable misfits guys. But they have directed,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3120" data-t="3120">670</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3122" data-t="3122">terahash at us, so almost a petahash. Wow. So they're</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3125">52:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3125" data-t="3125">they're launching a a hash rate drive to see how much hash rate they can get us. It's been pretty cool to launch. This is great. This is</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3133">52:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3133" data-t="3133">this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3134" data-t="3134">is intellectual Silk Road</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3137" data-t="3137">type of value for value. Yeah.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3140">52:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3140" data-t="3140">I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3142" data-t="3142">it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3143" data-t="3143">they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3144" data-t="3144">it's really cool, you know, because journalism is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3148" data-t="3148">a proof of work activity in the same way that mining is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3152" data-t="3152">And,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3154">52:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3154" data-t="3154">you know, to fund proof of work journalism with proof of work mining</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3159" data-t="3159">is a very interesting thing to think about. I don't think a lot of this has happened yet, but I think it could be</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3166">52:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3166" data-t="3166">a good funding mechanism going forward. Yeah. I mean, it's such a deep topic. There's a lot to unpack,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3174" data-t="3174">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3176" data-t="3176">having journalists</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3177" data-t="3177">having half rate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3181" data-t="3181">is gonna be a really powerful concept.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3184" data-t="3184">I mean, which which which outlet, which media organization do you trust,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3189">53:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3189" data-t="3189">the one with the most proof of work behind it is a good start? Yeah.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3193">53:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3193" data-t="3193">Well, if there's any if there's any media companies out there with more hash rate than us</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3198" data-t="3198">being directed at them in a value for value way, I wouldn't really consider</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3203" data-t="3203">the hash rates that Swan has. You know, they're a media company.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3207" data-t="3207">You know, Tether</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3209" data-t="3209">has been funding their hash rate. And and it's, you know, it's similar to the value for value economy, but I would I would consider</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3218" data-t="3218">it a bit different because it's more of like a business partnership than it is, like, actual,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3225">53:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3225" data-t="3225">you know, like, donations to them.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3228">53:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3228" data-t="3228">Right. Right. It's gotta be it's gotta be more of a a grassroots</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3232" data-t="3232">ASHRAE</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3233" data-t="3233">than</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3235" data-t="3235">a than a fiat ASHRAE.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3237" data-t="3237">One of them's directly funded by fiat, the other is directly funded</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3243" data-t="3243">by value.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3245">54:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3245" data-t="3245">Yeah, I mean, it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3246" data-t="3246">like complete converse of the intellectual Silk Road. So I think a good a good way to describe it would be the most compliant, you know, online market, which is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3257" data-t="3257">Amazon. So it's the, intellectual Amazon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3260" data-t="3260">is what I would,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3261" data-t="3261">refer to that relationship.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3264">54:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3264" data-t="3264">Interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3265" data-t="3265">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3266" data-t="3266">But thank you so much. This is really exciting and it's really cool.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3270" data-t="3270">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3271" data-t="3271">if you have an ASHRAE that you're not sending</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3275" data-t="3275">to the to the buccal,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3278">54:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3278" data-t="3278">Why not?</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3280">54:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3280" data-t="3280">Yep. Yeah. I mean, if you if you got a little miner that you're you're solo mining on CK Pool,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3287" data-t="3287">it'd be pretty dope if you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3289" data-t="3289">you know, mined it our direction.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3293" data-t="3293">Solo mind for the bugle.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3295" data-t="3295">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3296" data-t="3296">no no pressure.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3297">54:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3297" data-t="3297">We want,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3300" data-t="3300">want people to feel good about what they're doing. So, yeah, I mean, those guys have done governableness. So it's big fans of their show,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3307" data-t="3307">Big fans of what they're doing. You know, John has been leading the charge on this one. Big shout out to him.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3314" data-t="3314">But, yeah, let's get into those found booths.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3319">55:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3319" data-t="3319">Yeah. First one for Go ahead. Go ahead. You do the first one. Alright. Alright.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3324">55:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3324" data-t="3324">We I I don't have it pulled up on my computer. So, like, you know, for whatever reason, found in,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3329" data-t="3329">ordered these it looks like it's biggest to smallest on my phone.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3334">55:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3334" data-t="3334">That seems right.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3335">55:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3335" data-t="3335">That's a computer. I meant typewriter. My bad.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3338" data-t="3338">Pretty tired today. Okay. Rob</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3341" data-t="3341">one ham, so Rob Hamilton,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3344" data-t="3344">boosted us for 15 or 50,000 sats. Big boost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3349" data-t="3349">Says,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3351" data-t="3351">in parenthesis,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3352">55:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3352" data-t="3352">he, him,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3353" data-t="3353">so thank thank you for sharing your, pronouns right off the bat. It's really helpful for, you know, knowing how to talk to our listeners when,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3362" data-t="3362">what would you do?</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3363">56:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3363" data-t="3363">It's paramount to surprise me. I was froze he went with you again. So thanks for sharing it. So not as not always obvious.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3369">56:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3369" data-t="3369">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3370" data-t="3370">Appreciate it, Rob.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3372" data-t="3372">Well, we don't wanna make assumptions by people about people. Right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3376" data-t="3376">So Rob says, even if we are on the opposite sides of the compliance side wars,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3380" data-t="3380">I want to make sure you guys can buy your Marlboros. Journalism</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3385" data-t="3385">has always been</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3387">56:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3387" data-t="3387">a great tool in helping compliance,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3389" data-t="3389">and I hope we can all at least agree on n g u. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks, Rob. I</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3395">56:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3395" data-t="3395">I think we can all agree on n g u, and I'm definitely gonna smoke</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3399" data-t="3399">non t y c cigarettes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3402" data-t="3402">with the with the SADC scent. So, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3406" data-t="3406">it's not going to be used in a compliant way. I want I want that to be transparent.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3411">56:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3411" data-t="3411">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3412" data-t="3412">I I want to take</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3414" data-t="3414">a portion of, like, my Boost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3417" data-t="3417">I'm going to buy cigarettes. I'm going to sell them,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3421" data-t="3421">non compliantly at the fourth of July event that I'm going to.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3425" data-t="3425">That's what I'll I'll commit to you. So, you know, I appreciate</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3429">57:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3429" data-t="3429">your compliance and and how it's able to, you know, support non compliance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3436" data-t="3436">It's kind of an interesting,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3439">57:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3439" data-t="3439">paradox that we got going on here. The, the next one is just me. I donated 21,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3444" data-t="3444">SAVs because I wanted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3445" data-t="3445">my message to peer towards the top, which is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3449" data-t="3449">the new Cypherpunk mailing list will be built on the intellectual</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3452" data-t="3452">Silk Road. I truly believe that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3456" data-t="3456">I just wanted to make sure that everybody was able to see it. Nice. That's a good one for sure.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3461">57:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3461" data-t="3461">The next one is from our good friend, Fundamentals,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3464" data-t="3464">for 10,000 sats. He says,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3467" data-t="3467">congrats on separating from PodConf.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3470" data-t="3470">How you handle this will set the example for others. Glad for you guys.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3477" data-t="3477">Well, yeah, thanks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3479" data-t="3479">We're the Bitcoin standard of news.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3481">58:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3481" data-t="3481">That's who we are at the Bugle. We're setting we're not just setting the standard</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3486" data-t="3486">for others on how to interact with PodCon, but just how to do journalism in general. Alright, the next one is from,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3493">58:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3493" data-t="3493">another good friend</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3495" data-t="3495">of the bugle,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3496" data-t="3496">Orange Mart.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3497" data-t="3497">Orange Mart,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3499" data-t="3499">theythem in parenthesis, so thank you for the pronouns,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3502" data-t="3502">is proud to identify</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3503">58:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3503" data-t="3503">as a supporter of the Bitcoin Bugle,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3506" data-t="3506">AKA the Bitcoin Bitches,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3508" data-t="3508">an inclusive group that doesn't care if you're a heher</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3511" data-t="3511">or a sheshein.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3513" data-t="3513">All are welcome.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3516" data-t="3516">Many in many linear era that all</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3518">58:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3518" data-t="3518">are welcome. If you want to donate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3521" data-t="3521">sats, value for value, to the bugle,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3524" data-t="3524">we do not care what your pronouns are, but we do want to know them. Yep. Thank you for the boost, Orange Mart.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3532">58:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3532" data-t="3532">The next one is, from Chad F for 3,333</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3537" data-t="3537">sats. Very good number.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3540" data-t="3540">Who says, my pronouns are Stack sats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3543" data-t="3543">Well, thank you, for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3546" data-t="3546">sharing your pronouns, Chad. And and I think, you know, SnackSats</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3552">59:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3552" data-t="3552">That's a good pronoun set for Chads.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3555">59:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3555" data-t="3555">Yeah. I mean, it it it's not it's not very,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3561" data-t="3561">what's the word?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3562" data-t="3562">It's kinda out of the box. They're they're not very common, you know, so you have very common ones. And so I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3570" data-t="3570">where our listeners can get very creative</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3572" data-t="3572">is, they can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3574" data-t="3574">they can explore</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3576">59:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3576" data-t="3576">the world of pronouns a little bit more thoroughly because there there's a lot to be explored out there. They're constantly, you know, evolving and expanding every day.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3586" data-t="3586">So that I'm glad glad for you, Chad, that you've chosen those ones. The next one is from expatriotic.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3593">59:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3593" data-t="3593">It was just 3,000 sats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3595" data-t="3595">He said frauds.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3597" data-t="3597">Don't listen.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3598" data-t="3598">So sad.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3600" data-t="3600">Hashtag</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3600">Trump 2024.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3602">1:00:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3602" data-t="3602">Well, I,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3603" data-t="3603">I, I don't know how to, to respond</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3605" data-t="3605">to the frauds</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3607" data-t="3607">allegation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3608" data-t="3608">or telling people not to listen,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3611" data-t="3611">but I disagree with that.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3614">1:00:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3614" data-t="3614">We have credentials. We're not frauds. I think that, you know, and it goes without saying. Yeah.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3620">1:00:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3620" data-t="3620">I mean, it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3622" data-t="3622">it in being some of the world's best,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3625" data-t="3625">journalists out there,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3627" data-t="3627">you know, we're we're inherently gonna get criticism for people.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3631" data-t="3631">And I welcome I welcome the criticism and the fountain boost. I think it's a great medium. And and what I would challenge you to do next time,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3639" data-t="3639">expatriotic,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3640">1:00:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3640" data-t="3640">is instead of just being vague, is to to give specifics as to what your,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3646" data-t="3646">what your disagreements,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3649" data-t="3649">with us are.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3651" data-t="3651">But it appears that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3653" data-t="3653">this person is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3656" data-t="3656">supporting</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3657">1:00:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3657" data-t="3657">Trump</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3658" data-t="3658">probably due</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3659" data-t="3659">to the former president's non compliance stance. That sounds right. Yeah. I'm good with that. Yeah. I mean, I I've been really, like, disappointed in the amount of hate mail or lack thereof</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3672" data-t="3672">that the beagle has received. It, you know, it seemed like early on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3677" data-t="3677">I was getting a lot more hate mail. I I suggested</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3681" data-t="3681">to to people to to email</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3683">1:01:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3683" data-t="3683">me at thebitcoinbeagle@protonmail.com</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3686" data-t="3686">to, you know, send their hate mail. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3689" data-t="3689">the the fountain boost or or even</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3692" data-t="3692">Twitter posts, those are those are both great great mediums</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3695" data-t="3695">to to send that to us.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3697" data-t="3697">It just you know, it makes it makes the show, I think, a little bit more valuable when we can deep debunk</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3705">1:01:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3705" data-t="3705">all of these, you know, kind of frivolous</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3708" data-t="3708">criticisms</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3709" data-t="3709">of our</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3710" data-t="3710">awesome work.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3711">1:01:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3711" data-t="3711">Agreed.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3713">1:01:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3713" data-t="3713">Next one is Enoch for a thousand sats who says, Grieser and Palmer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3718" data-t="3718">are the pop rocks</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3720" data-t="3720">and soda pop of internet news.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3723" data-t="3723">Great alone, but explosive together.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3725" data-t="3725">They're without</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3727" data-t="3727">equal. It's very high praise. Thank you, Enoch.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3730">1:02:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3730" data-t="3730">Hey, Yoch. I'm gonna,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3731" data-t="3731">I'm definitely gonna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3733" data-t="3733">share that one so everybody knows</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3735" data-t="3735">what they're getting when they listen to the Bugle because I think that's a great</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3739" data-t="3739">description</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3742" data-t="3742">of me and Richard. The next one is, Thousand Deaths from</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3746">1:02:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3746" data-t="3746">b o I z z a h.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3749" data-t="3749">Hard hitting her gentle, credentialed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3752" data-t="3752">journalism here.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3753" data-t="3753">Yes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3755" data-t="3755">That's another great description of the show. Couldn't agree more. Glad others are seeing that in the fountain feed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3762" data-t="3762">Thousand stats signal, and that's thousand stats, that's one cigarette.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3766">1:02:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3766" data-t="3766">Yep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3769" data-t="3769">PIES, PIEZ</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3771" data-t="3771">boost for four twenty stats, it says, Thank you, gentlemen.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3776" data-t="3776">Thank thank you, Pies.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3778">1:02:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3778" data-t="3778">Almost half a cigarette there. Thank you. Thank you. And the last one, Expatriotic, again, boosted 100 sats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3785" data-t="3785">Here's money for a fag.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3787" data-t="3787">Well, thank you, Expatriotic,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3789" data-t="3789">for the second boost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3792" data-t="3792">Need 900 more of those for cigarette,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3795" data-t="3795">fag, of course, is what they call cigarettes in England.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3800">1:03:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3800" data-t="3800">So he must be British.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3803" data-t="3803">Oh, yeah. Thank you. As soon as I get 900 more sads, I will buy a non KYC cigarette.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3810">1:03:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3810" data-t="3810">Yep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3811" data-t="3811">And feel feel free to if you're boosting, feel free to ask us questions too if you want us to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3817" data-t="3817">expand on anything because we want this to be kind of like a dialogue</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3820" data-t="3820">back and forth,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3822" data-t="3822">between us and our listeners.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3823">1:03:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3823" data-t="3823">And if you, you know, if you if you wanna boost a SaaS and you don't have, you know, a thousand SaaS, for example, to boost this one full cigarette, which is what a lot of our listeners like to do,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3833" data-t="3833">maybe band together with some other people in the intellectual silk road and start a stack chain for,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3840" data-t="3840">a fag chain or a cigarette chain.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3843" data-t="3843">So people, you know, you can boost</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3846" data-t="3846">a portion of the cost of one k one KYC cigarette and somebody else can can boost on top of that making</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3852" data-t="3852">like a stack join or fad join,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3855">1:04:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3855" data-t="3855">to get us more cigarettes. I'm seeing I'm seeing in the the ClubMiner</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3860" data-t="3860">mafia chat</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3861" data-t="3861">that more and more people are are,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3864" data-t="3864">directing hash rate.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3866" data-t="3866">It seems like there's a goal to get us up to a petahash</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3871" data-t="3871">by the end of the evening. So I assume by the time I get this,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3874">1:04:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3874" data-t="3874">published Wow.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3875" data-t="3875">We'll be up there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3877" data-t="3877">Alright. Well, that's the final boost. You you got any final thoughts to to close the show? Yeah. I think,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3883">1:04:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3883" data-t="3883">I think it's gonna be a crazy week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3886" data-t="3886">We had a way to smoke cigarettes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3889" data-t="3889">shoot off fireworks,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3891" data-t="3891">maybe light some cigarettes with some fireworks this weekend and just be free. Don't be a cock. Don't be a status cat. Don't comply.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3898">1:04:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3898" data-t="3898">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3900" data-t="3900">Yeah. I I guess, like, the final thing so we're we're working</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3904" data-t="3904">through a media partnership with Ordinals magazine.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3908" data-t="3908">We're gonna be at the event as journalists</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3911" data-t="3911">on the ground,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3913" data-t="3913">but I'll make sure to make some time to</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3917">1:05:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3917" data-t="3917">sell some non KYC cigarettes. So if anybody wants to hit me up,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3922" data-t="3922">let me know. I know, you know, it's gonna be it's a very, like, high risk</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3927" data-t="3927">activity to do in an event like that because of, like, how many spooks are there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3933" data-t="3933">And I got I imagine there's probably gonna be more spooks than ever at the event. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3938" data-t="3938">yeah, we can we can we can talk incognito.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3943" data-t="3943">So hit me up if you're you're interested. See you there.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3947">1:05:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3947" data-t="3947">Thank you for tuning in to and boosting this week's episode of the Bugle weekly podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3952" data-t="3952">This July 4, remember that this holiday is about noncompliance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3956" data-t="3956">and being free.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3957" data-t="3957">Instead of only talking about freedom, make sure to actually experience it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3961" data-t="3961">Drive without your seatbelt and engage in the peer to peer non compliant economy by purchasing and or selling non KYC cigarettes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3969" data-t="3969">Even if you are not American, you can still celebrate a holiday about non compliant individuals,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3974">1:06:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3974" data-t="3974">throwing off the shackles of being ruled by funny talking tea drinkers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3978" data-t="3978">This is our Boston Tea Party, so get ready to rock and roll. Thanks again for tuning in, and we will see you on next week's episode.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3993">1:06:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3993" data-t="3993">Only for the two lions, seventeen seventy six.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3997" data-t="3997">Non compliant individuals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3999" data-t="3999">had effects.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4000" data-t="4000">They did not like being ruled by the British.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4003" data-t="4003">They were not docile or skittish.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4006" data-t="4006">With pen and parchment, they enshrined their defiance,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4010">1:06:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4010" data-t="4010">creating what is now called the American Alliance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4013" data-t="4013">Fouted on being undaunted, but we carry the torch, smoking on KYC cigarettes on our front porch. All across the country,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4021" data-t="4021">the people are awakening.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4023" data-t="4023">Politicians</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4024" data-t="4024">are quivering and shaking. The fear of population night is not docile.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4030" data-t="4030">They are a fight,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4046">1:07:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4046" data-t="4046">Drive without your seat belt. This is what winning looks like. Take back your pride. Embrace freedom. Do not hide. Only fools</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4054" data-t="4054">follow the rules.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4059" data-t="4059">All across the the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4061" data-t="4061">people are awakening.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4063" data-t="4063">Politicians are quivering and shaking. They fear a population</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4067" data-t="4067">that does not go solve.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4069">1:07:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4069" data-t="4069">They are afraid so they will act hostile, but do not lose hope.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4074" data-t="4074">The revolution is happening. The answer to 1984</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4078" data-t="4078">is becoming a proper fool.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4086" data-t="4086">Drive without your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4100" data-t="4100">the people are awakening.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4102" data-t="4102">Politicians are quivering and shaking. They fear a population that is not docile.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4109">1:08:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4109" data-t="4109">They are afraid so they will act hostile.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4111" data-t="4111">But do not lose hope.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4114" data-t="4114">The revolution</span></span></p>