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But that doesn't mean it's too early to start preparing for white goi summer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-12" data-t="12">This summer, the Goyim are in charge. That means pure, unadulterated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-16" data-t="16">Goy sovereignty,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-17" data-t="17">the way the founding fathers intended. White Goy summer means leaving your Jewish lawyer on red. No more kosher options at the barbecue, and sunscreen is optional. What better time to celebrate white Goy summer than on America's 200</span> <span class="cue" id="t-30" data-t="30">birthday? After all, White Goy Summer is about liberation.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-34" data-t="34">White Goy Summer is about remembering you can just do things. You don't have to ask permission from the Jews to get drunk on cheap beer, stuff your face with cool ranch Doritos, or drink and drive. This summer, if we wanna bomb Iran, we do it goy style.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-49">0:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-49" data-t="49">No masad invited. Start preparing for white goy summer before it's too late. Stock up on patriotic t shirts, Toby Keith playlists, and reattaching your foreskin. This is it. It. This summer, our motto is goy big or goy home. White goy summer. I'm going to be there. Are you?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-72">1:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-72" data-t="72">One of the archetypes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-73" data-t="73">in securing Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-75" data-t="75">and educating the masses</span> <span class="cue" id="t-77" data-t="77">and teaching</span> <span class="cue" id="t-80" data-t="80">the plight of cannon fodder about the basics of Bitcoin is the Bitcoin Thinkboy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-86" data-t="86">The Bitcoin Thinkboy</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-88">1:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-88" data-t="88">has furthered Bitcoin to to all to new highs, to becoming a serious currency on the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-95" data-t="95">the world stage. There's been some pretty famous Thinkboys</span> <span class="cue" id="t-99" data-t="99">throughout history. There have been people like Michael Bittstein. There have been people like Pierre Richard.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-104" data-t="104">There have been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-107" data-t="107">countless</span> <span class="cue" data-t="107">ones that have</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-110">1:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-110" data-t="110">paved the path for the man joining us tonight.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-114" data-t="114">Our guest</span> <span class="cue" id="t-116" data-t="116">has a very interesting backstory, having worked in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-121" data-t="121">the Bitcoin mining world for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-124" data-t="124">companies like Riot Platforms,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-127" data-t="127">small hosting companies writing</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-129">2:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-129" data-t="129">Think Boy mining books, the the Bitcoin mining</span> <span class="cue" id="t-133" data-t="133">almanac.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-136" data-t="136">Today working as the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-138" data-t="138">chief of research or something something some made up</span> <span class="cue" id="t-143" data-t="143">funny,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-144" data-t="144">Think Boy title at Bitcoin Park. Joining us tonight is, Rob Warren. Used to go buy bikes in Bitcoin,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-151">2:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-151" data-t="151">has a more professional Think Boy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-154" data-t="154">handle now on Twitter. Rob, how are you doing tonight?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-158">2:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-158" data-t="158">It's a pleasure. I'm,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-160" data-t="160">I'm walking in the thought steps of giants,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-162" data-t="162">really.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-165">2:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-165" data-t="165">You know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-166" data-t="166">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-168" data-t="168">Dream Paper of Bitcoin summer last year,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-171" data-t="171">we learned</span> <span class="cue" id="t-173" data-t="173">that Bitcoin companies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-175" data-t="175">especially publicly traded paper Bitcoin companies,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-178">2:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-178" data-t="178">they each needed a podcaster.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-180" data-t="180">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-182" data-t="182">the ones that had the best podcasters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-184" data-t="184">to they they typically did the their stocks did better.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-188" data-t="188">And the ones who didn't have podcasters, you know, they scrambled to get some, and some of them overdid it. They went and got cobblers for the podcasters.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-196" data-t="196">They spent too much money. Their stock is suffering right now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-199">3:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-199" data-t="199">But they think that they that going forward, they'll need podcasters. Do you think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-204" data-t="204">that there's certain companies, they need to have a Think Boy strategy. They need to have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-209" data-t="209">they need to like, the c suite needs to be, like, this chief Think Boy officer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-213" data-t="213">And, you know, the military has one, Jason Lowry.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-217" data-t="217">OnlyFans has one, Robert Breedlove.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-220" data-t="220">It kept companies need think boys, and that's what you that's what you would do. So, hey, how would you</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-227">3:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-227" data-t="227">he just mocked you. He he he he do wields your Think Board,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-232" data-t="232">credentials,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-233" data-t="233">which we we thought we shouldn't do. We shouldn't belittle people's credentials like that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-238">3:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-238" data-t="238">How would you explain the value that Think Board brings to a Bitcoin company? A VC backed company? It's a good it's a good question. It's a good question. I think the the first thing is I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-250" data-t="250">I I think it's the love of the game that really brings</span> <span class="cue" id="t-253" data-t="253">brings everyone into the fold.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-256" data-t="256">I they say Think Boys have to be forged, not,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-260" data-t="260">not simply LLM or or or emergent from some sort of AI.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-265" data-t="265">There has to be enough of a personality</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-268">4:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-268" data-t="268">behind</span> <span class="cue" id="t-270" data-t="270">what's in there. And, really, it's a question of what what is in there,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-274" data-t="274">to keep to keep the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-276" data-t="276">the the paper Bitcoin summer going. And I think if there if there was a big failure that we had</span> <span class="cue" id="t-281" data-t="281">from paper Bitcoin summer into fall and then winter, it was that we over we were overleveraging</span> <span class="cue" id="t-287" data-t="287">a lot of the suit coining. We were overleveraging</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-290">4:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-290" data-t="290">a lot of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-291" data-t="291">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-292" data-t="292">podcasting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-293" data-t="293">And no no offense to you guys because you are doing you're doing the Lord's work with forty hours per week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-299" data-t="299">But I think there's a gap there that needs to be filled,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-302" data-t="302">maybe a Think Boy winter, maybe maybe Think Boy spring break.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-306">5:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-306" data-t="306">There there are options for Think Boys out there. I think they need they need to get together. They need to talk about their thoughts. They need to share their thoughts, and they need to recognize that there's a fundamental</span> <span class="cue" id="t-316" data-t="316">paradox to the Think Boy. And this is where I think the podcaster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-321" data-t="321">will always excel beyond</span> <span class="cue" id="t-323" data-t="323">the Think Boy because the podcaster works in the spoken language. You know, you say it and you make it so.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-329" data-t="329">You've brought it into the world and you shared it with people, and people can say, you know, I heard from the esteemed journalist, Richard Gries, or I heard from the journalist,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-337" data-t="337">Rod Palmer, that this has happened.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-340">5:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-340" data-t="340">And so you're you're you're shaping their thoughts in a way that they know they're being shaped. They're they're getting their forty hours.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-347" data-t="347">But nobody wants nobody wants to learn. Everybody wants to be in college at the party. They don't wanna be at the lecture.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-353" data-t="353">And so if the Think Boy succeeds</span> <span class="cue" id="t-355" data-t="355">if the Think Boy succeeds, he's totally invisible</span> <span class="cue" id="t-358" data-t="358">because he got the thought into your head,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-361" data-t="361">but he doesn't get the credit for it. You take the credit. That's the real paradox of the Think Boy is that once you get the thought in there, you've succeeded. It's not your thought anymore.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-371">6:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-371" data-t="371">That's yeah. I'm glad he said that. I think the best, most successful podcasters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-377" data-t="377">are, like, similar to us and Peter McCormick</span> <span class="cue" id="t-381" data-t="381">is we don't pretend to be Think Boys, and too many podcasters pretend to be Think Boys.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-387" data-t="387">And, you know, you I think you said it right. Think boys need to be in the group chats. They need to be Think Boy group chats. They need to have Think Boy group chats, and they need to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-398" data-t="398">you know, builders build in the bear market. Think boys think in the bear market. That's right.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-406">6:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-406" data-t="406">This poses a risk, though. This poses a risk, though, is that if you're doing you you you have a risk of actually over indexing on your thought to doing ratio, and, typically, it's something that we see,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-416" data-t="416">we see in bull markets. So there there really is kind of a four year cycle of the Think Boy that I think we should,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-423" data-t="423">we should definitely think more about, to be frank.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-427" data-t="427">During the during the bull market, the Think Boy is emerging. Every thought is gold,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-432" data-t="432">and it's easy. It's easy to think up only when everything is up only. But when things are turning and they're going down, it's getting a little tough.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-439" data-t="439">It's all the builders in the bear market. These guys are the ones that are getting all the credit. The the the Think Boys, they they have to switch the gears, and very few Think Boys can actually be cyclical Think Boys, which I think is probably why you see,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-452">7:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-452" data-t="452">some of our our forefathers of the Think Boy universe, the Bitski Bitsteins and the Rochards, and I'm glad that you brought them up.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-458" data-t="458">It's very hard to have,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-460" data-t="460">have lived through a number of cycles as they have.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-465">7:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-465" data-t="465">Absolutely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-466" data-t="466">You know, one one of the things I think is really important for Thinkboys and for Bitcoin podcasters to be thinking about is how to how to sign up the younger generations that's not being</span> <span class="cue" id="t-477" data-t="477">complete and total retards. Right? Like, there there's a ton of effort being,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-483" data-t="483">put into sign up in them and to just being, you know, TikTok brains,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-489" data-t="489">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-491" data-t="491">you know, just not not not putting a lot of thought into things.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-496">8:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-496" data-t="496">You know, I I say the word psyop not necessarily because we're trying to do anything,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-503" data-t="503">malicious to anybody, but you're you're you're counteracting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-507" data-t="507">the psychological</span> <span class="cue" id="t-508" data-t="508">operations of, you know, other people that that of the Epstein list, for example, that that wants the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-515" data-t="515">the broccoli hair haircuts, the the greatest aspiration in life to grow up to be a good taxpayer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-521" data-t="521">Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-523">8:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-523" data-t="523">So, you know, I I don't think there's an emphasis on this enough in the Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-528" data-t="528">ecosystem. Natalie Burnell is probably one of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-532" data-t="532">the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-533" data-t="533">pioneers of trying to to reach younger generations. I know Matt and Marty talk about it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-538" data-t="538">a lot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-540" data-t="540">You're a parent.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-542">9:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-542" data-t="542">You're a think boy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-544" data-t="544">You care about the future.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-548" data-t="548">What do you think as a think boy, you know, being a role model to young aspiring think boys?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-554" data-t="554">Like, how how do you how do you go about doing that, and and how do you impart</span> <span class="cue" id="t-559" data-t="559">excitement about being a Think Boy to broccoli haircuts?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-564">9:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-564" data-t="564">You know, I don't think you can. I think, I think in a sense, you know, Think Boys have to be forged. They have to be tormented.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-572" data-t="572">You have to have really,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-574" data-t="574">really nerdy hobbies in high school. You gotta be in journalism,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-578" data-t="578">not in the forty hours a week journalism like traditional high school journalism.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-584" data-t="584">You gotta be on the fencing team. Like, when you do this stuff, you could be forged into somebody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-590" data-t="590">who could become a Think Boy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-592">9:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-592" data-t="592">It's it's it's not a hoping. It's not a life that, that you wanna prescribe to people. You know?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-601" data-t="601">What I think what I think maybe the most important thing you could do is you could you could you could help strengthen people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-607" data-t="607">to to be aware of the glaze.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-611" data-t="611">I think if you can be aware of the glaze, if you wanna everyone wants to raise children that are aware of the glaze.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-617" data-t="617">You don't give them a a a dare like a a stop smoking type</span> <span class="cue" id="t-623" data-t="623">program in school.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-625">10:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-625" data-t="625">You give them just a glaze consciousness.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-628" data-t="628">You say, okay. Is this glaze? Is this not glaze? Are you glazing? Are you not glazing? And if that's the one thing that you could give to your kids, I think it would be it would be a success. Right? Because we don't we don't know what the psyop is gonna be in five years. You know, first,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-642" data-t="642">first, it's the climate communism.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-645" data-t="645">And after the climate communism,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-647" data-t="647">there was the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-650" data-t="650">the follow-up of the COVID communism.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-652">10:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-652" data-t="652">And now it's the ICE communism.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-655" data-t="655">And it you know, whatever can get these kids in the street glazing as hard as they possibly can, you know, they're gonna push it. They're gonna push it. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-663" data-t="663">the best thing we could possibly do is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-666" data-t="666">just teach these kids that, like, you're you're gonna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-669" data-t="669">you're gonna be forced to glaze, but be conscious. You don't have to glaze.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-674">11:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-674" data-t="674">That's you you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-676" data-t="676">part of the reason</span> <span class="cue" id="t-678" data-t="678">that everybody's glazing is because they're learning it from ChatGVT because ChatGVT is glazing us. The ultimate</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-684">11:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-684" data-t="684">laser.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-685">11:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-685" data-t="685">Now one of the problems, and I'm I'm curious if you agree, is that because of ChatGPT, everybody thinks they're a think boy. Everybody's going on ChatGPT, and they're getting theories from ChatGPT, and they're and they're coming out, and they're they're posting these long</span> <span class="cue" id="t-700" data-t="700">kinda, you know, copy paste from jazz g p t on the timeline, and they're trying to post these stink boy pieces.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-707" data-t="707">And they're, you know, and it's but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-710" data-t="710">the problem is that you've been you kind of mentioned it. You have to be in journalism eyes, or you have to take fancy, you have to be bullied, you have to be called retarded by shinobi,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-718" data-t="718">you have to be, you have to you you have to struggle. And trying to be a think boy with JADGE, ET removes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-725" data-t="725">the soul because it removes the struggle. And so these Think Boys, they don't</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-729">12:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-729" data-t="729">they don't they aren't using first principles. They're just Mhmm. They're just they're taking a theory, and they're just smearing glaze over it, and they're giving it out there and hoping that people will think that it's deep.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-741">12:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-741" data-t="741">Is the era of the Think Boy gone? Is it dead?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-745" data-t="745">That's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-747" data-t="747">that's the question. Right? You know, the the podcasters are eternal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-751" data-t="751">You just need one microphone,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-755" data-t="755">and the podcasting voice can remain eternal. But the but the Think Boy is the Think Boy, is it a dying breed now? This is this is a question. Are they, you know, at at one point in time in the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-767" data-t="767">in the mid twentieth century,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-770">12:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-770" data-t="770">300,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-771" data-t="771">people in The US were</span> <span class="cue" id="t-773" data-t="773">switchboard operators.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-775" data-t="775">They were managing phone lines.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-779" data-t="779">I don't know any switchboard operators. Maybe somebody's grandma. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-784" data-t="784">Is that is is is the Think Boy going the way of the switchboard operator?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-790">13:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-790" data-t="790">That that's a good question. I I don't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-793" data-t="793">I don't think so ultimately,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-796" data-t="796">And I I think it's important</span> <span class="cue" id="t-800" data-t="800">to criticize the individuals that are spewing slop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-803" data-t="803">slop thought. So, like, Corey Klipsen, for example, he's been doing this recently. So he had this post</span> <span class="cue" id="t-810" data-t="810">where he was he he fed all of Mark Goodwin's work into</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-815">13:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-815" data-t="815">Grok</span> <span class="cue" id="t-816" data-t="816">Yeah. Or or Claude or whichever one it was.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-819" data-t="819">And he spewed out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-821" data-t="821">just this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-823" data-t="823">whole bunch of slop that didn't even make any sense,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-826" data-t="826">proving that he didn't read it. You know, and core Corey's just been on this</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-831">13:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-831" data-t="831">he he was never a think boy. He always wanted to be a think boy. He threw a conference to hang out with all the think boys</span> <span class="cue" id="t-838" data-t="838">because he wanted to be accepted by the Think Boys. But, you know, he</span> <span class="cue" id="t-842" data-t="842">has been on this this constant crash out. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-846" data-t="846">And and Corey's crash out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-849" data-t="849">and Corey's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-851" data-t="851">failings to to be</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-854">14:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-854" data-t="854">a think boy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-855" data-t="855">is a great example</span> <span class="cue" id="t-859" data-t="859">to showcase to the broccoli haircuts of this guy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-863" data-t="863">is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-865" data-t="865">we just need to make fun of him. But, yeah,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-868" data-t="868">one one of the questions I think is that, you know, we're seeing with the Epstein files,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-875">14:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-875" data-t="875">there there seems to be this theme around</span> <span class="cue" id="t-878" data-t="878">a Goi uprising.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-880" data-t="880">Have you seen this?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-884" data-t="884">And, you know, like, your Rod and I have been tweeting about the Goi is it's gonna be white Goi summer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-889" data-t="889">or white Goi am summer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-892" data-t="892">The question I have for you is,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-894">14:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-894" data-t="894">can the Goy's be Think Boys?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-898">14:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-898" data-t="898">Oh, yeah. Of course.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-901">15:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-901" data-t="901">Do you brother, do you so you think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-906" data-t="906">if I have white privilege, I can suffer enough to be a think boy?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-912" data-t="912">Because some people would disagree with that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-916">15:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-916" data-t="916">Well, how much do you have is the bigger question.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-919">15:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-919" data-t="919">Well, that's do you see nobody everybody wants to everybody wants to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-924" data-t="924">nobody wants to look at</span> <span class="cue" id="t-926" data-t="926">the intersectionality</span> <span class="cue" id="t-927" data-t="927">of it. Some people have they they're hoarding the white privilege, and some people are just scraping by this white privilege inflation, and it's like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-936" data-t="936">I can barely afford to pay my taxes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-939" data-t="939">Yeah. With the privilege that I was given at birth.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-944">15:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-944" data-t="944">I mean, I think the I think the move is really going to just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-948" data-t="948">to to look out and see if there is going to be a white goi summer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-954" data-t="954">What are your takes? It's been incredible. There's a there's a deep story in the word goi. It's like, there's a lot of history there. And so we're seeing one one face of it, which, which is interesting enough coming from,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-968" data-t="968">from the Epstein files.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-970">16:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-970" data-t="970">I think I think that people I think there's a little bit of uncertainty, and I think it's people are right to feel a little bit nervous. Like, if you think of white boy summer, it's like, oh, boy. Boys will be boys.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-983" data-t="983">They're rowdy. I've seen I've seen Roadhouse. They're they have toxic masculinity. White boy summer is gonna be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-990" data-t="990">rally, and I just wanna stay out of the way. And they you've seen white gooey summer, and they're, like, they probably have they've probably seen some people probably feel the same vibes from that. Okay. Is it gonna be is it gonna be fun and inclusive white boy summer, or is it gonna be Chip on the Shoulder White Glowing Summer?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1009">16:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1009" data-t="1009">I don't know. I think it depends. I think it depends on the the first, it depends on what the the the the track list of summer's going to be. If there's an album that comes out, it could change the course of history. Spotify playlist. So if the right if the right Spotify playlist comes out and you get the right,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1028" data-t="1028">the right order, the right people listening to it, I think it could it could really shape the direction of this. But generally speaking, I think, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1038" data-t="1038">White Coat Summer should be a blast. Why not?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1042">17:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1042" data-t="1042">Yeah. Should be. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1045">17:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1045" data-t="1045">It'll be interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1046" data-t="1046">It'll be interesting to see if we have another paper Bitcoin Summer. Somewhere. I know there's been a lot of debate on that. Right now, it's looking good for us. Expectations? What is the what is the weather report in the bugle?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1058" data-t="1058">Grumpy plebs.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1060">17:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1060" data-t="1060">Yeah. That's it. It's the tourists, though. It's the tourists.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1064">17:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1064" data-t="1064">Well, the the, you know, the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1066" data-t="1066">the head there, the Groundhog size shadow, so that's six more weeks at bear market.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1071" data-t="1071">Six more weeks at grumpy and six more weeks of no paper Bitcoin summer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1077" data-t="1077">So I've I'd say my take on it is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1082" data-t="1082">right now is it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1084" data-t="1084">for the same reason</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1085">18:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1085" data-t="1085">that broccoli haircuts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1088" data-t="1088">are gonna struggle to be think boys is because people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1092" data-t="1092">their time preference is just too high. Everybody needs to lower their time preference.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1097" data-t="1097">The</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1098" data-t="1098">the bull market, paper Bitcoin summer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1101" data-t="1101">the next Think Board breakthrough piece, like, it's not coming.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1106">18:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1106" data-t="1106">You're not gonna go be able to talk to Chad Chikiki tonight and get it out tomorrow morning.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1110" data-t="1110">You're gonna have to build up to it. You're gonna have to struggle. We're gonna have to struggle for a little while before it gets fun again.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1119">18:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1119" data-t="1119">What if it never gets fun again, though? That's the that's the real thought. That's the that's the big Think Boy thought. Right? You know, there's something happening in the space where,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1130" data-t="1130">you know, the the basis of a paper Bitcoin summer is that we were still all kinda retarded.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1136" data-t="1136">And we were just excited</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1138" data-t="1138">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1139" data-t="1139">the paper was now gonna share in our retardation.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1142" data-t="1142">And we had just spent all this time all this time on on Twitter, all this time in in the group chats,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1149">19:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1149" data-t="1149">all this time in, like, you know, the early Reddit, Samos moderated forums,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1154" data-t="1154">really just trapped in our own kind of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1157" data-t="1157">retarded bubbles.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1159" data-t="1159">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1160" data-t="1160">then the big money came.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1163" data-t="1163">The question is, are are are they gonna be influenced by us or are we gonna be influenced by them? You know, when you stare into the abyss, it looks back into you. When you look into the paper summer,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1172">19:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1172" data-t="1172">the paper summer looks back into you.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1176">19:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1176" data-t="1176">And that's what made people grumpy. They didn't like what they saw</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1180" data-t="1180">when they looked into the mirror and saw the April Bitcoin somewhere. And what we learned is or what I think we learned is that it was just soup corner club slop. That's what was all the hype. That was all the excitement,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1192" data-t="1192">and it was about announcements,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1195" data-t="1195">lot of a lot of bullish announcements.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1198" data-t="1198">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1199" data-t="1199">people, you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1201">20:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1201" data-t="1201">they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1202" data-t="1202">they love to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1204" data-t="1204">not hypnotized, but it's like a a a plump slap lullaby.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1208" data-t="1208">Makes them feel good. Makes them feel like you're having fun.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1212">20:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1212" data-t="1212">Can I can I black pill really quickly?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1215" data-t="1215">Always.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1216" data-t="1216">What if the what if the plebslop won?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1221" data-t="1221">What if the what if the bugle is one of the the last bastions, if not the last bastion</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1226" data-t="1226">of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1227" data-t="1227">actual signal in the space? And and what if the plebslop wins and it becomes a 100% glaze all the time, becomes a 100% suit coin all the time,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1236">20:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1236" data-t="1236">and people start abusing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1238" data-t="1238">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1239" data-t="1239">early early lessons of forty hours a week, and they start doing crazy stuff. They start saying, well, what if I only need ten hours a week?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1248" data-t="1248">What if I just listen to the Breedlove tapes over and over again?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1252" data-t="1252">Yeah. What what if I just buy this OnlyFans subscription?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1255" data-t="1255">Is that is that enough? You know, you you you've kind of turned from it. What what happens if the Plebslop wins?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1261">21:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1261" data-t="1261">Well, I I think it's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1264" data-t="1264">the definition of victory</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1266" data-t="1266">needs to be laid out clearly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1268" data-t="1268">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1270" data-t="1270">ultimately,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1271" data-t="1271">I think where a lot of people</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1275">21:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1275" data-t="1275">struggle and they they they fail</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1278" data-t="1278">is they they set unrealistic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1280" data-t="1280">expectations for what victory looks like. And they're so hyper focused on the macro environment. So, like, the the general Bitcoin ecosystem. Right? The guy the guys that have been the sloppers, the guys that have been bought into the slop,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1292" data-t="1292">super hard. Mhmm. Their idea of victory</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1295" data-t="1295">is that all their retarded</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1297" data-t="1297">relatives,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1299">21:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1299" data-t="1299">they ask them about Cardano</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1300" data-t="1300">or say that Bitcoin's a scam because Jeffrey Epstein is Satoshi</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1305" data-t="1305">or whatever.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1308" data-t="1308">So they expect all their retarded relatives</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1311" data-t="1311">to believe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1312" data-t="1312">that</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1313">21:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1313" data-t="1313">they should go on the the carnivore diet, that they should listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts a week. They think they're gonna be walking around like royalty</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1323" data-t="1323">because they were an early adopter of this currency and people in the grocery store are gonna they're they're gonna be the hometown heroes because that guy listened to podcasts in in '20,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1333" data-t="1333">2020,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1335" data-t="1335">and everybody else is figuring out in in twenty twenty six, two thousand and thirty. Like, they I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1340" data-t="1340">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1341" data-t="1341">is the expectation</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1343">22:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1343" data-t="1343">that have so many people have had, and so they've gotten discouraged.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1347" data-t="1347">Whereas, you know, what's gonna happen, you know, ultimately is the Plimso op is gonna be,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1353" data-t="1353">you know, define a lot of people's lives. Like, we see it defining a lot of people's lives right now, but then there's gonna be a subset of people that are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1361" data-t="1361">dialed into the signal, like that's how it's always been, that's how it's always gonna be to some degree. There's no mass awakening</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1368" data-t="1368">of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1369" data-t="1369">everybody starting to smoke cigarettes and read out was shrugged. Yeah. You know what I mean?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1373">22:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1373" data-t="1373">But there's gonna be, you know, a very, very clear</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1378" data-t="1378">divergence</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1379" data-t="1379">between the direction that the plagues go and the pioneers go, where the plagues are gonna be getting glazed by their,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1388" data-t="1388">AI,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1389" data-t="1389">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1391" data-t="1391">chatbot,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1392">23:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1392" data-t="1392">you know, tech talk about fleshlight. It's just gonna be yeah. The the the future plebslop is literally it's just going to be,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1401" data-t="1401">a Fleshlight with Bluetooth headphones</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1404" data-t="1404">and maybe an Oculus. Maybe you don't even need an Oculus. Maybe it's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1408" data-t="1408">forty hours a week</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1410" data-t="1410">with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1411" data-t="1411">a Fleshlight attached to it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1413">23:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1413" data-t="1413">Pre module.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1415" data-t="1415">Yeah. I mean, you you can have a AI robot that you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1419" data-t="1419">that you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1421" data-t="1421">lease from Tesla,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1424" data-t="1424">and it's gonna have, like, a a shape shifting phase.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1428" data-t="1428">And so you need to be getting blowjobs from your favorite Bitcoin podcaster</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1431">23:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1431" data-t="1431">as Exactly. They're playing their Bitcoin podcast.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1435">23:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1435" data-t="1435">Sending the microtransactions</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1436">23:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1436" data-t="1436">via lightning while it's happening. Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. And something that people have to understand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1442" data-t="1442">is that Plebslav is a vector.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1445" data-t="1445">And it it it when you've when you when you say it has one,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1451" data-t="1451">it's a very in it's from a an individual perspective. Plebslav is now the new hurdle rate.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1456" data-t="1456">You your job is to be more interesting and to to create something that is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1464" data-t="1464">more worth is people have a short amount of time, free time, and your job is to create something that is more worth their time than pep slot, something they would take at a time to go search out. Like, you remember it used to be you'd go to the record store and you'd you'd go through the see what was available, trying to find a good</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1483">24:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1483" data-t="1483">CD, and then you take it home and listen to it, and you listen to all the songs,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1487" data-t="1487">and it you could go back to, like, when it was a cassette, and you you had to fast forward, and you had to split it over to rewind it just to find the right song.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1495" data-t="1495">But when you found a good song, felt so good, you wanted to share with people, and it's you have to do now, it's like you're gonna have to sift through the slop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1504" data-t="1504">to find something that was worth the effort</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1508" data-t="1508">that it took</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1510" data-t="1510">to find it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1513">25:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1513" data-t="1513">You know, Rod, it makes me think maybe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1518" data-t="1518">the maybe the the the the bigger message out here in this, you know, the the the plebs and the pioneers is that you can still reach</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1525" data-t="1525">you can still reach the plebs. Because if you produce if you produce enough enough high quality signal and it's not slop and you're not glazing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1534" data-t="1534">eventually,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1535" data-t="1535">that's gonna wind up in an anthropic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1538" data-t="1538">training model somewhere.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1541">25:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1541" data-t="1541">And so on a long enough timeline,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1545" data-t="1545">that message is gonna wind up in that fleshlight. To see in the world. That's right. It's gonna wind up in that fleshlight with those Bluetooth speakers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1553" data-t="1553">and it has a chance maybe of reaching somebody at that moment.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1557">25:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1557" data-t="1557">Exactly. Like we said earlier,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1560" data-t="1560">you plant the thought in the Thinkboy's head. Mhmm. You don't. It's not you're not gonna get credit for it. You're not the podcaster.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1568" data-t="1568">You are playing you are planting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1570" data-t="1570">the signal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1572" data-t="1572">in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1574" data-t="1574">the slot machine,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1575">26:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1575" data-t="1575">and then the slot serves that signal. It's a sly roundabout way.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1579" data-t="1579">Yeah. If you were doing the signal into people, you're planting it in the slot. You plant the signal seed in the slot.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1585">26:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1585" data-t="1585">Beautifully said.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1588">26:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1588" data-t="1588">They're they're you know, the plebs are riled up right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1592" data-t="1592">Have you ever seen the plebs as angry as they are right now?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1596">26:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1596" data-t="1596">I don't think so. You can't you can't glaze them enough right now? No. They the thing is 20</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1603">26:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1603" data-t="1603">maybe during the chain split when we got the the BCH BTC chain split,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1608" data-t="1608">but that was very different. It was very different because it was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1613" data-t="1613">something actually happening in the network.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1616" data-t="1616">You know? It wasn't you couldn't think, boy, around a chain split. A chain split is a chain split.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1621" data-t="1621">There were no thoughts to be had. It was happening.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1625" data-t="1625">And maybe maybe we've we've over indexed. We've we've gone too far down,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1632">27:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1632" data-t="1632">down the Slop Casino that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1634" data-t="1634">people have kind of forgotten what it's like to actually be a little bit nervous in Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1639" data-t="1639">It's it's sort of like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1641" data-t="1641">the the woke left and then there was the woke right,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1644" data-t="1644">and now it's kind of the slopped plebs, the plebs that have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1649" data-t="1649">have kind of detached from the core. They've detached from the ethos,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1653">27:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1653" data-t="1653">and they're mad, but they're not quite sure why they're mad because they don't actually really understand how Bitcoin works.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1659">27:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1659" data-t="1659">But but that's that's a part of being a pleb is not understanding how Bitcoin works.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1663">27:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1663" data-t="1663">That's true. So what's gonna happen? Is is this gonna be the the the great filter? Are we hitting the great filter where the pioneers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1670" data-t="1670">go on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1671" data-t="1671">and they get to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1674" data-t="1674">they get to cross the Red Sea and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1677" data-t="1677">all the plebs are just kind of flooded when the waters come back together. Is this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1681" data-t="1681">is this the great exodus? Is this what we're living through right now in Bitcoin?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1685">28:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1685" data-t="1685">It it it feels like we're in this moment where it it, you know, the the pioneers are really dropping off into</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1693" data-t="1693">Galt's gold.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1695">28:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1695" data-t="1695">Yeah. They're they say they're they're going away. It's they're they're disappearing.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1701">28:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1701" data-t="1701">Yeah. Well, it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1703" data-t="1703">the the thing is is you don't have to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1706" data-t="1706">read</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1709" data-t="1709">mastering Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1711" data-t="1711">cover to cover twice a year</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1713" data-t="1713">to use and benefit Bitcoin from Bitcoin. You don't need to be don't even know how to code</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1720">28:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1720" data-t="1720">to use and benefit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1722" data-t="1722">from Bitcoin. You</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1723" data-t="1723">you don't need to know every little thing about it, but you do need to understand how it works.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1729" data-t="1729">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1730" data-t="1730">part of the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1731" data-t="1731">you get to these points where it's like the plebs have studied</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1735">28:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1735" data-t="1735">the protocol,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1736" data-t="1736">They have mastered being able to use a strike wallet. Some of them have built their own seat signer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1742" data-t="1742">or they, you know, they they've they've managed they've they connected their lightning channel to BTC sessions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1749" data-t="1749">on on the role, and they've they figure out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1751" data-t="1751">the the working parts, but they don't understand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1754" data-t="1754">the culture and they can sense these mechanisms, and they</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1758">29:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1758" data-t="1758">they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1759" data-t="1759">they crash out because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1762" data-t="1762">they don't they just don't understand how they come it's not gonna mold around their preferences and their values and their,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1771" data-t="1771">religion or their whatever it is, whatever is making them crash out or getting them riled up. And then they have to accept</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1778" data-t="1778">that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1779" data-t="1779">you know, like we said, like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1781">29:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1781" data-t="1781">you have to accept that Epstein had more influence</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1785" data-t="1785">than you if you're Matthew Crowder or you're just gonna spiral.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1789">29:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1789" data-t="1789">Do you think, do you think the plebs notice</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1793" data-t="1793">that the pioneers are disappearing,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1795">29:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1795" data-t="1795">that they're falling off the radar? They can play about it all the time. Mhmm. They can play about it all the time. They blame the pioneers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1803" data-t="1803">for where they at, who were so and so to call out a scammer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1808" data-t="1808">etcetera.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1809" data-t="1809">And they they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1811" data-t="1811">they're upset about it. It's just like, you know, people in New York and California. It's like, why would where where are all the people who pay our taxes?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1819" data-t="1819">Where are they going? They're why we can eat them right now. Where they go?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1824">30:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1824" data-t="1824">Just this just this week,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1826" data-t="1826">we saw a series of influencers trying to blame Noster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1832" data-t="1832">for the disappearance of the the pioneers.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1835">30:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1835" data-t="1835">It's your meeting in the price garage. It was Noster's fault. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1840">30:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1840" data-t="1840">I thought it was Nick Carter telling all the influencers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1843" data-t="1843">about,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1844" data-t="1844">the quantum risk.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1848">30:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1848" data-t="1848">Well, you know, the plums have all sorts of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1851" data-t="1851">the have all sorts of theories on on the price tip. They you know, some say it's core v 30,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1858" data-t="1858">which I I think is reasonable theory. We're watching core v 30</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1863" data-t="1863">go core v 30 crashed the silver markets 15%</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1866" data-t="1866">today.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1868" data-t="1868">Yeah. Right. Core v 30 is out Bitcoin Core</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1871">31:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1871" data-t="1871">is out of control. They are ruining</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1874" data-t="1874">the global economy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1876" data-t="1876">by crashing precious precious metals.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1879">31:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1879" data-t="1879">Do you you think gold too there and then the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1883" data-t="1883">the gold tank?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1885">31:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1885" data-t="1885">They are a 100% on the core tank or gold tank.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1889" data-t="1889">Yeah. I mean, it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1890" data-t="1890">this is the revelation from the Epstein files is that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1895" data-t="1895">core maintainers like Shinobi</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1899" data-t="1899">are creating these Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1902" data-t="1902">development</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1903">31:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1903" data-t="1903">decisions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1904" data-t="1904">on their private islands.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1905" data-t="1905">Yeah. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1909" data-t="1909">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1910" data-t="1910">the pubs have all sorts of theories about it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1915">31:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1915" data-t="1915">You know, there's an interesting thing you bring up because it's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1918" data-t="1918">it's almost a lesson in think boying</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1921" data-t="1921">gone wrong.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1924" data-t="1924">There's levels to this. There's levels to this. It's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1926" data-t="1926">anyone can have a theory, but if you haven't suffered, you know, if you haven't had that shoved in a locker</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1933" data-t="1933">turbo wedgie kind of suffering,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1936">32:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1936" data-t="1936">your theories your theories can get a little unhinged. You know? It it it all becomes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1943" data-t="1943">it all becomes glaze.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1945" data-t="1945">And with the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1946" data-t="1946">and I I can see it's it's really a self fulfilling prophecy. The pioneers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1950" data-t="1950">they're seeing what's happening. They're seeing the tidal wave coming,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1954" data-t="1954">and they're saying, okay. The mechanics the mechanics of the system work. I can I can back away? We got the engine started.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1962">32:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1962" data-t="1962">The engine's kinda running.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1964" data-t="1964">And, yeah,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1966" data-t="1966">all the new people are a little</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1968" data-t="1968">a little touched,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1971" data-t="1971">but the engine's running.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1973" data-t="1973">And meanwhile, you have everybody sitting there going, okay, but who's driving the bus? And they don't maybe understand that,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1980">33:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1980" data-t="1980">that Bitcoin doesn't have the driver. They're still trying to call the CEO.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1986">33:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1986" data-t="1986">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1987" data-t="1987">I think I think this is the the the framing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1991" data-t="1991">that has crippled the plebs from understanding. You know, did did you watch the Jeffrey Epstein, Epstein, interview with Steve Bannon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1997" data-t="1997">out of curiosity?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1999">33:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1999" data-t="1999">No.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2001">33:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2001" data-t="2001">It was really interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2005" data-t="2005">Essentially, you know, Epstein</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2009" data-t="2009">one of the things he kept on referencing and saying over and over again that when when it came to the traditional</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2014" data-t="2014">financial markets that everybody on Wall Street was just as retarded as everybody else</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2018" data-t="2018">Yeah. It was like it was like he he's he essentially said</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2024" data-t="2024">that the the people running the global financial system are are you know, some of them are smart, but most of them are as dumb as plebs.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2032">33:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2032" data-t="2032">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2034" data-t="2034">I think the, you know, the plebs have been so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2038" data-t="2038">conditioned to believe in that that somebody's always,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2041" data-t="2041">you know, driving the bus, essentially.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2043">34:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2043" data-t="2043">Yeah. With the adults in the room.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2047">34:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2047" data-t="2047">Yeah. And they they realize that I mean, the reality is nobody's really an adult</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2052" data-t="2052">in the room until you decide to be the adult in the room.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2056">34:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2056" data-t="2056">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2056">So you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2059" data-t="2059">that's a sage take. That's not a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2062" data-t="2062">that that's a real take. Wait. Is Epstein a pleb, or is he a pioneer?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2068">34:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2068" data-t="2068">Well, I I would classify him as villain.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2071">34:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2071" data-t="2071">Definitely villain.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2072" data-t="2072">Different category, just the villain of the story.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2076">34:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2076" data-t="2076">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2077" data-t="2077">Yeah. I mean, like, in in many ways, he's the he's the inciting type event or character for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2085" data-t="2085">individuals to become heroes, you know, for the pioneer to set out on the journey</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2091" data-t="2091">of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2093" data-t="2093">having to go in into,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2095" data-t="2095">you know, the unknown realm. Like, the you know, that's that's what drives the pioneer</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2100">34:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2100" data-t="2100">to grow up from being a plab and to to go out on the frontier is these types of inciting events of, like, you know, they're they're like, we don't want to be ruled by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2108" data-t="2108">the pedophilic ruling class and the abstinence class anymore.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2112">35:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2112" data-t="2112">Was he the class or was he the fall guy?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2115" data-t="2115">He's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2116" data-t="2116">and what who who's sitting behind him?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2119">35:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2119" data-t="2119">Right. That's the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2124" data-t="2124">what was the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2126" data-t="2126">who was controlling him or who was supporting it? Like, that's the he's gone.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2132" data-t="2132">If the if this was such an essential component of the system.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2135" data-t="2135">Yeah. What's been running it since well, you know, you could think of it that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2141" data-t="2141">since he died in 2019,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2144">35:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2144" data-t="2144">things have kind of unraveled. It's like they need to fill the position because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2149" data-t="2149">the the whole system apparently, he tied it together.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2152">35:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2152" data-t="2152">There's a job application outstanding is what you're saying? Mhmm. And it's on Bitcoin or jobs.com?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2159">35:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2159" data-t="2159">It's kinda like when Steve Jobs died.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2163">36:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2163" data-t="2163">Yeah. What did that do? It just and Apple just paused.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2167">36:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2167" data-t="2167">Like, who who's the Tim Cook replacement of, like, Apple didn't run the world, but they they had a large impact on the world. To some degree, they ran the world.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2175">36:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2175" data-t="2175">Apple, because Steve Jobs and the place he created Apple,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2180" data-t="2180">influence had more influence</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2182" data-t="2182">on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2183" data-t="2183">the way</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2184" data-t="2184">we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2186" data-t="2186">get glazed by our technology</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2188">36:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2188" data-t="2188">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2188">Than anybody ever has. I mean, everything is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2192" data-t="2192">the the glazed strategy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2194" data-t="2194">the blueprint</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2196" data-t="2196">was made by by Steve Jobs. And so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2199" data-t="2199">keeping</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2200">36:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2200" data-t="2200">the government from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2201" data-t="2201">from imploding on itself</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2204" data-t="2204">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2205" data-t="2205">completely unraveling,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2208" data-t="2208">more nobody had more influence on that than Jeff.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2212">36:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2212" data-t="2212">So maybe he was holding the whole fiat system together. That's very interesting. He was kind of the linch</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2221" data-t="2221">pin of, of all of the fakeness and all of the gayness. Yeah. He really he really tied it together. And with his departure,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2229" data-t="2229">the Fiat system crumbles. Is that what we're saying?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2233">37:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2233" data-t="2233">Yeah. It is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2236" data-t="2236">Fiat is run on blackmail.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2238" data-t="2238">It has to be on black. Gone That's right. It it it everybody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2242" data-t="2242">is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2244" data-t="2244">the game theory starts to to take place and everybody starts to ease prediction markets and meme coins</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2252" data-t="2252">to front run each other and to each under the under the bus and use inside information</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2257">37:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2257" data-t="2257">to, you know, to bet to benefit or to profit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2261" data-t="2261">at somebody else's expense</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2263" data-t="2263">because there's no there's nothing there's no blackmail to hold it all together anymore.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2268">37:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2268" data-t="2268">Essentially, what Virginia Giuffre did was she open sourced the blackmail,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2273" data-t="2273">pretty much.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2275" data-t="2275">That's like what the you know, many plebs are trying to scramble now with the with the Epstein files is to figure out how to leverage them to to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2283" data-t="2283">blackmail</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2284" data-t="2284">Bitcoin influencers.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2287">38:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2287" data-t="2287">So you're saying the heart of the pleb is still fiat?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2291">38:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2291" data-t="2291">Well, I mean, it's just the the there's this this,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2296">38:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2296" data-t="2296">Still following fiat incentives.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2298">38:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2298" data-t="2298">Yeah. Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2299" data-t="2299">you know, the system</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2301" data-t="2301">in many ways, it's it's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2303" data-t="2303">people are just trying to figure out how to pick up the pieces after it's unraveled. You know, this is the first turning.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2309" data-t="2309">People are scrambling to try and put things back together, and so there's a lot of experimentation.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2314" data-t="2314">And one of the ways to experiment is, like, okay. Well,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2317">38:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2317" data-t="2317">we have access to the to a very small amount of the Epstein files supposedly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2323" data-t="2323">that probably exist.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2325" data-t="2325">Like, how can we leverage that? Like, the politicians have been using this shit on each other for forever. Yeah. And the bankers and whatever. Now now it's open sourced.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2333" data-t="2333">Let's do it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2335">38:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2335" data-t="2335">Yeah. What happens when you have open an open source,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2339" data-t="2339">pedophilic blackmail ring? I mean, that's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2342" data-t="2342">that's the greatest risk of the fiat system. Right?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2346">39:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2346" data-t="2346">Yeah. I don't know. I mean, it's,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2348">39:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2348" data-t="2348">all good.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2349" data-t="2349">Well, I think that in order to to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2351" data-t="2351">prevent</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2353" data-t="2353">or in order to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2355" data-t="2355">figure out a a way out,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2357" data-t="2357">is because everybody's trying to pick up the pieces</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2360">39:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2360" data-t="2360">and put things back together, like you said, that they're noticing, like, all the all the pieces, all the component parts are by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2369" data-t="2369">all the blackmail that built it. And so it's like it's it's, they go get a cancer that has metastasized throughout the entire system. That's kinda why it fell apart.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2379" data-t="2379">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2381" data-t="2381">so it's like we have to start over,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2384" data-t="2384">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2386" data-t="2386">you have to get past that point. So I think that with what we've got now is, like, all those files, the 3,000,000 emails, tons of redactions.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2393">39:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2393" data-t="2393">The way that they have to do is they have to announce that they're gonna do all the red they're gonna remove all the redactions, release everything unredacted,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2400" data-t="2400">but we're not doing it for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2402" data-t="2402">one year, eighteen months,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2404" data-t="2404">and then you let everybody create prediction markets</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2408" data-t="2408">over whose</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2409" data-t="2409">names are redacted.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2411">40:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2411" data-t="2411">And if you, you know, if you had inside information</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2414" data-t="2414">because you were</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2416" data-t="2416">somebody who was a victim of somebody in those files, you had inside you you can you can win.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2421" data-t="2421">You can get some you can get a monetary</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2424" data-t="2424">reward for your pay your pain and suffering that this caused you that you're not gonna get justice most likely. This is probably the only justice you're gonna get is that you can profit off of this if you traded on prediction markets. And then because the government's so corrupt,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2438" data-t="2438">okay, you're of they're gonna do what they do best, which is get in an insider trading</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2442">40:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2442" data-t="2442">on the prediction markets, and they're gonna go and they're gonna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2446" data-t="2446">use their inside,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2448" data-t="2448">access to figure out as in the as in the files</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2451" data-t="2451">and then in profit off it on on PolyMarket</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2454" data-t="2454">in Predix.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2456">40:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2456" data-t="2456">This is the last dying breath of the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2459" data-t="2459">of the fourth turning into the first turning. This is the this is when everything becomes uncanny and bizarre.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2466" data-t="2466">When you're you're you're you're trading a fake game with a fake game on top of it. Everything is coming to the surface. Nobody knows what's real or what's not real. The plebs, I don't I don't fault the plebs for being so confused, and I don't fault the pioneers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2480" data-t="2480">for just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2481" data-t="2481">putting their heads down and and ducking undercover.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2485">41:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2485" data-t="2485">It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2486" data-t="2486">I mean, yeah. I mean, the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2489" data-t="2489">things are incredibly uncanny bizarre. Like, you know, for example, this week, Marty Bent turned his skin silver</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2496" data-t="2496">and started podcasting about silver, and then the price of silver did dropped 15%.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2501" data-t="2501">And then you had,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2503" data-t="2503">you know, Matthew Kratter coming out and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2506">41:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2506" data-t="2506">releasing, you know, a crash out about how his old roommate was the Fed chair, and then you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2515" data-t="2515">is it it seems like, you know, his editor has gone</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2519" data-t="2519">what's that?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2521">42:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2521" data-t="2521">He said he went to college with the devil.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2523">42:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2523" data-t="2523">Yeah. Went to college with the devil. You know, the Epstein files say that sailors are creep and isn't cool enough to hang out with them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2531" data-t="2531">You've got</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2536" data-t="2536">that you it's like almost every week, one of the four horsemen of Podkoff</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2540" data-t="2540">is, like, on the verge of getting devoted.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2543" data-t="2543">Like, the bay Bailey has crashed and burned super hard.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2548" data-t="2548">It's it's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2549">42:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2549" data-t="2549">yeah. I mean, think we're in weird times, to say the least. What does it mean for podcasters? Because Thinkboys,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2555">42:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2555" data-t="2555">you know, Thinkboys, they,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2559" data-t="2559">they never die.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2561" data-t="2561">You know, you can have you can be a Think Boy at any scale.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2564" data-t="2564">It's kind of scale invariant. You can you can be a Think Boy at the highest scales, or you can be a Think Boy at your kitchen table.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2573" data-t="2573">It's a little bit different when you're in the podcasting world because the podcasting world, you have,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2579" data-t="2579">you have the people that you're accountable to. You know, the Think Boy the Think Boy, there there's a form of the Think Boy that just waxes poetic</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2587">43:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2587" data-t="2587">and goes to Walden Pond, and that's still a legitimate form of Think Boy to be thinking all by oneself. But a podcaster, you know, a podcaster is not a podcaster without</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2597" data-t="2597">the podcast listener.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2599">43:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2599" data-t="2599">You have to be willing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2602" data-t="2602">to podcast without an audience.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2604" data-t="2604">And that is it what it doesn't matter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2608" data-t="2608">what the price is. It doesn't matter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2610" data-t="2610">what turning you're in.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2612" data-t="2612">You have to be willing to do it without an audience. And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2617">43:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2617" data-t="2617">if you do,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2618" data-t="2618">they will come.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2621" data-t="2621">But that's the only you can be a thick boy in the first journey. It just is what is the fourth turning. You're right. And people need to realize that if you can if you can make it here, if you make it in the turning you're in, you can make it in the next one. You just have to be willing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2635" data-t="2635">to dive through the slop into the other side.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2639">43:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2639" data-t="2639">So that's the announcement that you guys aren't going away in the bear market?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2643">44:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2643" data-t="2643">It's not the plan.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2645">44:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2645" data-t="2645">It's yeah. I mean, it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2648" data-t="2648">it's not will we go away in the bear market.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2651" data-t="2651">It's will</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2653" data-t="2653">will everybody else.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2657">44:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2657" data-t="2657">I mean, I'm I'm prepared to just talk in the void. I feel like I've been doing that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2661" data-t="2661">most of my life anyways.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2664" data-t="2664">Not afraid of talking in the void.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2666">44:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2666" data-t="2666">What what distinguishes you from the Think Boy then?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2671">44:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2671" data-t="2671">That is probably just a big the biggest</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2674" data-t="2674">differentiation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2675" data-t="2675">is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2676" data-t="2676">IQ level, likely. Like, I I'm a I'm a journalist for a reason.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2682">44:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2682" data-t="2682">Yeah. We're we're we're we report</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2685" data-t="2685">we report</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2686" data-t="2686">the news. We report</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2688" data-t="2688">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2691" data-t="2691">the revisions, the changes, the culture. We re we keep we just report what</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2696" data-t="2696">the mirror is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2698">44:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2698" data-t="2698">reflecting back,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2699" data-t="2699">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2700" data-t="2700">the think boy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2702" data-t="2702">listens, and the think and the think boy thinks about those reflections</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2706" data-t="2706">and reflects on those reflections,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2709" data-t="2709">and and share</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2711">45:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2711" data-t="2711">and share</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2712" data-t="2712">and shares the a thoughtful reaction.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2716" data-t="2716">Because if you if you react</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2720" data-t="2720">passionately or angrily or,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2726" data-t="2726">gullibly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2727" data-t="2727">or credulously</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2728">45:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2728" data-t="2728">to everything,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2730" data-t="2730">You it's just it's too much, it's too crazy, it doesn't make sense, it's illogical, you will scramble your brain because you're taking in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2737" data-t="2737">and reacting to too many</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2739" data-t="2739">contrasting, conflicting, and pieces of information.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2743" data-t="2743">If you wait</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2744" data-t="2744">for the think boy</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2747">45:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2747" data-t="2747">who has a thoughtful reaction, it you you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2750" data-t="2750">it compresses the entropy and and gives you more of a a a logical</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2756" data-t="2756">explanation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2758" data-t="2758">that you can that you can use to achieve your benefit.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2762">46:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2762" data-t="2762">I feel that it's kind of a yin yang. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2766" data-t="2766">That you have these, these forces of chaos, these forces Think fast and slow. Very entropic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2771" data-t="2771">forces</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2772" data-t="2772">that have to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2775" data-t="2775">sort of monitored</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2776" data-t="2776">and guided in a sense. Yeah. To it's riding the elephant. It's the the the Danny Kahneman fast and slow, you say.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2784">46:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2784" data-t="2784">So, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2786" data-t="2786">one other question for you guys is is what what thoughts are you most bullish on in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2792" data-t="2792">the coming white boy summer? Are there specific thoughts that you think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2796" data-t="2796">are gonna get the most purchase, thoughts that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2800" data-t="2800">that you think are under leveraged, under indexed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2803" data-t="2803">I'd love to go down that whole,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2806">46:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2806" data-t="2806">that whole avenue and say, you know, where</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2808" data-t="2808">where where do journalists</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2810" data-t="2810">see the world of thought moving</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2812" data-t="2812">in the in the coming months?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2815">46:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2815" data-t="2815">Slop?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2816" data-t="2816">Slop has a, like, a it's a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2819" data-t="2819">pejorative.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2820" data-t="2820">It is a it has negative connotations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2823" data-t="2823">because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2824" data-t="2824">slop is common. Slop is vulgar, and so is the truth. The truth is common, the truth is ugly, the truth is vulgar, it's offensive, so people don't like the slop. But if you stop, if you look at it dispassionately and you observe the slop,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2839">47:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2839" data-t="2839">you start to see you start to see it is you start to see that it is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2844" data-t="2844">the truth. And if if the slop is the truth, then the slop is how we imagine the future.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2850" data-t="2850">And it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2851" data-t="2851">and b using the slop and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2854" data-t="2854">how many people have access</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2856" data-t="2856">to to the slop now</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2858">47:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2858" data-t="2858">to imagine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2860" data-t="2860">their future,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2863" data-t="2863">I mean, if you can imagine the future, you're more likely to go into if you can imagine the first turning, you're more likely to go, to leave the fourth turning. So the slot is is the is the is the way people use to to cope and to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2877" data-t="2877">to comfort and to imagine the future, to be they have the courage to take that step.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2883">48:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2883" data-t="2883">Yeah. I I I think, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2886" data-t="2886">what many of the white boys are excited about for this summer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2891" data-t="2891">is I think they're anticipating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2893" data-t="2893">finally getting their n word privileges</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2895" data-t="2895">back.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2897" data-t="2897">When</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2898">48:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2898" data-t="2898">when when Donald Trump</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2900" data-t="2900">he he he called Tim Walz a fucking retard.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2903" data-t="2903">That was a big moment for America. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2906" data-t="2906">I mean, you you probably noticed that the the big shift in the Overton window with the with the death of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2913" data-t="2913">most of the political correctness. It was like a light switch. When when Donald Trump got selected,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2921" data-t="2921">all of a sudden, it was okay to say gay and retard, and it wasn't edgy anymore. And you go on YouTube and every fucking podcaster is saying gay and retard.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2929">48:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2929" data-t="2929">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2930" data-t="2930">Even even Tim Pool's calling Tim Holt</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2933" data-t="2933">a retard.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2935" data-t="2935">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2940" data-t="2940">I think that that's just people are excited to get their n word privileges back.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2945">49:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2945" data-t="2945">Do you have an estimated date? Like, people always predict what the top price of Bitcoin is gonna be at a certain date. Do you do you have an estimated date for when the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2954" data-t="2954">when the n word pass</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2956" data-t="2956">all when when it's it's fully open, fully available?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2960">49:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2960" data-t="2960">I think it's July 4.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2961">49:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2961" data-t="2961">Yeah. Interesting. And who is there gonna be a notable because we can set up the Polymarket right now. Is there,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2969" data-t="2969">is there a person</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2971" data-t="2971">that's going to say it?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2973" data-t="2973">Is we need, like, a,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2975" data-t="2975">a Kanye West post Katrina.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2978" data-t="2978">George Bush doesn't care about black people. Like, what what what's gonna be the moment</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2983">49:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2983" data-t="2983">that leaves</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2984" data-t="2984">Austin Powers standing there just absolutely stunned,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2987" data-t="2987">because we could make a poly market on this right now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2991">49:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2991" data-t="2991">Well, it is I believe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2992" data-t="2992">I believe so this fourth of July is a big one for a reason. It's the two hundred and fiftieth birthday of The United States. Yeah. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2999" data-t="2999">And I think Donald Trump, he's he's gonna be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3002" data-t="3002">glazing himself in DC doing a big speech, might do a parade.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3007" data-t="3007">He'll</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3008" data-t="3008">he brought the parades back. Yeah. And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3012">50:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3012" data-t="3012">right there then and there, he might drop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3015" data-t="3015">the hard r.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3016">50:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3016" data-t="3016">Do you think they're gonna bring Robert E. Lee back?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3020">50:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3020" data-t="3020">Well, I mean, one of the thing one of the headlines I saw today is that he's constructing a Christopher</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3024" data-t="3024">Columbus statue on the White House.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3029" data-t="3029">So, yeah, I mean, I I think they're probably gonna bring back all the the southern,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3034" data-t="3034">Confederate generals in one way or another.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3037">50:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3037" data-t="3037">Yeah. I think I agree. We we did not play in this ad, but it's it's funny because it's the same reason, July 4,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3044" data-t="3044">February</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3045" data-t="3045">birthday. And, you know, if if he introduced at it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3049" data-t="3049">you know, he's gonna be surprised. If Owen Benjamin said it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3053" data-t="3053">it's not gonna be shocking. It's not gonna change the world. If if if somebody from the left said it, either they already are. Right? They're they're calling they're yelling at it at ICE agents, apparently, in Minneapolis now. Yep. But what's gonna happen is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3065" data-t="3065">it's gonna be the July 4, and it's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3070">51:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3070" data-t="3070">he's gonna get up there,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3072" data-t="3072">he's, you know, we're talking about like bringing people back, he's gonna bring</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3076" data-t="3076">Kramer from Seinfeld, he's gonna bring him back, and he's gonna be given his redemption, he's gonna let him say it, and people are gonna just be like, oh my goodness.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3084" data-t="3084">Yeah. It's it's going to unleash it's again, just like in 2024</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3089" data-t="3089">after the election, the Asia ladies are gonna be on their heels.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3093" data-t="3093">And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3094">51:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3094" data-t="3094">it's it's it's gonna be a,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3097" data-t="3097">the there's gonna be a lot of karaoke, a lot of guys singing in their cars, and they're it's it's it's not gonna be so aggressive. It's just gonna be, like, a a a relief valve. It's like, I can say I could say it when I'm singing lyrics to Drake or Kanye.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3111" data-t="3111">I can just repeat all the lyrics, and everybody's just gonna kind of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3116" data-t="3116">kinda come to an agreement that that's, like, it's fine to sing it at karaoke. Like, you you know what I mean?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3122">52:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3122" data-t="3122">Trump's probably gonna say it to Ketanji Brown Jackson, to be honest.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3127" data-t="3127">Her or Elon Omar. Because who else would be on stage? It's there it there's a select group of people that he can even be yelling these things at.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3136">52:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3136" data-t="3136">Yeah. Elon Omar? He's gonna give us give us he's gonna call Cash Patel.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3154" data-t="3154">And they think he's a mean guy. They think he's gonna use the hard art, and he's gonna use it, like, in a mean way. But he's because he's gonna say it in a in a loving way. He's gonna do, like, doctor Ben Carson.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3165" data-t="3165">He's my, you know, what you're gonna say it. And Yeah. And Carson's gonna be, like, give him a hug, and it's gonna be, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3171" data-t="3171">alright.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3172">52:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3172" data-t="3172">It's Yeah. It's cool. You just thug out on the stage. Yeah. They do what they do. Could be could be Nicki Minaj.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3180" data-t="3180">It could be. She's been filming videos, political videos now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3184">53:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3184" data-t="3184">She she loves Trump.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3186">53:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3186" data-t="3186">I don't know. You think Erica Kirk's gonna do for the fourth of July celebration. The fireworks</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3192" data-t="3192">that she's gonna come out to are gonna be, like, those Chinese fireworks that just freaking the biggest ones in the world.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3199">53:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3199" data-t="3199">She's definitely gonna come out with the sparklers coming out of her bazangas.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3204">53:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3204" data-t="3204">It's gonna be the summer's gonna be great.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3207">53:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3207" data-t="3207">I'm so excited for the summer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3210" data-t="3210">It's gonna be great. I'm bullish. So it is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3212" data-t="3212">it it's a bullish outlook for the pioneers. I mean, the players are gonna have a really hard time.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3217">53:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3217" data-t="3217">Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3218">53:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3218" data-t="3218">You know, what what does this mean for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3221" data-t="3221">and maybe there's maybe there's a bigger historical point. Right? You know, maybe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3226" data-t="3226">there's the very famous kind of Jordan Peterson when he was fighting that Canadian bill</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3232" data-t="3232">around forced speech, and his whole thing as a,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3237" data-t="3237">in the world of, you know, Jungian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3239" data-t="3239">psychiatry and psychology was that if you can control someone's speech,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3244">54:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3244" data-t="3244">you incidentally</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3245" data-t="3245">make them control their thoughts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3247" data-t="3247">Right? If you if you live in in the wokest of the worlds and people are constantly self policing their language,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3254" data-t="3254">what you're actually doing is you're kind of soft policing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3257" data-t="3257">their their thoughts. You're censoring their their their mind.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3261" data-t="3261">And we've been trapped in this fourth turning world where people people can't even think outside of the Overton window.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3268">54:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3268" data-t="3268">It's very interesting that this, you know, with the return of of of retard the return of gay and retarded,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3277" data-t="3277">it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3279" data-t="3279">it's opening people's minds in a very strange way. They're realizing, wow. I don't have to think I don't have to think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3284" data-t="3284">on the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3286" data-t="3286">on the communist agenda anymore.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3289" data-t="3289">Mhmm. I don't have to, I don't have to dye my hair blue.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3293">54:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3293" data-t="3293">I don't have to put my pronouns in something.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3298" data-t="3298">I can use the retard word.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3300" data-t="3300">Are we are we reclaiming the mind? Is this what people are nervous about? Is that the the word is now it's not just that it's a bad word. It's it's a word that frees people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3309" data-t="3309">into,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3311" data-t="3311">into being a little more gay and a little more retarded, and maybe that's the essence of individual freedom, is the freedom to do that or to be that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3319">55:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3319" data-t="3319">I I think it's that they it's the freedom to not be gay re retarded. Like, if you eliminate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3325" data-t="3325">people's ability to name</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3328" data-t="3328">the thing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3329" data-t="3329">you can't criticize it. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3331" data-t="3331">So there there's a tremendous like, you know, I I I think this is a big moment.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3336" data-t="3336">The the the Zoomers and the Broccoli haircuts</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3339">55:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3339" data-t="3339">have the word gay and retard like the Boomers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3343" data-t="3343">had acid and rock and roll music.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3346">55:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3346" data-t="3346">It's definitely it's definitely leading to an expansion of the mind. I agree. Right. And and the summer is, like, is is the is the Woodstock. Instead of getting together and taking acid, it's it's getting together.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3360" data-t="3360">It all and also in retard together.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3363">56:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3363" data-t="3363">Taking Chinese peptides.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3365" data-t="3365">Yeah. Doing the six seven meme. It's gonna be a peptide summer too. Are you guys on the peptide game?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3372">56:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3372" data-t="3372">Not yet. I don't know. I don't know how to get the peptides. I don't know. I don't have a peptide yet. You have to get into,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3380">56:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3380" data-t="3380">into a group that takes you to a Reddit, that takes you to a forum,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3385" data-t="3385">that takes you to a Telegram channel where you have to WhatsApp somebody who is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3391" data-t="3391">in China. So they're always asleep when you're awake and awake when you're asleep. And Well, somebody sees all the magic types. Peptides</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3398">56:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3398" data-t="3398">on Nostra.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3399">56:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3399" data-t="3399">That would be immense if they could really get their Noster game.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3403" data-t="3403">It's gonna be a peptide summer too.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3407">56:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3407" data-t="3407">Probably, G Y C peptides.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3410">56:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3410" data-t="3410">I I have heard of, the peptides. It it seems to definitely be a tech burrow trend for sure. I think it's gone mainstream. It's gone mainstream.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3419">56:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3419" data-t="3419">And it started with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3422" data-t="3422">it started with the the the Ozempic. Right? The semaglutide,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3425" data-t="3425">because everybody was poking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3427" data-t="3427">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3429" data-t="3429">you know, that's a very optimistic thing. It's taking people from,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3433" data-t="3433">being fully glazed all the time and giving them an opportunity to be a little bit more of a pioneer when you can see your toes.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3440">57:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3440" data-t="3440">You can get up. You your knees don't hurt so much. Maybe you could be a pioneer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3445" data-t="3445">You could envision yourself as a pioneer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3447" data-t="3447">Ozempic could do that to you. I think that, you know, peptides it's gonna be a peptide summer. It's gonna be happening in conjunction</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3454" data-t="3454">with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3455" data-t="3455">with the fourth turning, with white coy summer. It's gonna be an age of Aquarius.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3459" data-t="3459">It's all going to be emerging all at once, and it's gonna be unbelievable the kind of, the kind of thoughts that people can be thinking at that point, you know, just, just from my perspective.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3470">57:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3470" data-t="3470">So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3472" data-t="3472">I mean, we've seen this this huge massive shift</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3476" data-t="3476">as a result of Ozempic. There there were a lot like, Ozempic held the body positive movement</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3481">58:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3481" data-t="3481">Yes.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3483">58:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3483" data-t="3483">Overnight.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3484" data-t="3484">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3486" data-t="3486">what what we resulted from that I mean, there were, like, a lot of these I I don't remember, you know, because I don't pay attention to, you know, fat, lame</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3494" data-t="3494">artists, but, you know, there was, like, this famous</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3497" data-t="3497">body positive</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3498" data-t="3498">fat artist that became skinny because of Ozempic and then got canceled by, you know, the fat people.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3506">58:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3506" data-t="3506">You know, there there's individuals like Mike Brock. You know, he used to be fat. He started taking Ozempic. He got real skinny.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3512" data-t="3512">The peptides,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3514" data-t="3514">I think the way that you're describing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3516" data-t="3516">you know, there's very real potential that this summer, people start</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3520" data-t="3520">walking around incredibly jacked. And so, like, the average Bitcoin podcaster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3524" data-t="3524">is gonna go from, like, a Marty Bent to a Robert Breedlove</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3528">58:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3528" data-t="3528">overnight. Right? And there's gonna be this massive shift of just, like, incredibly, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3534" data-t="3534">jacked,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3535" data-t="3535">ripped,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3536" data-t="3536">high testosterone.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3539" data-t="3539">Man, you know, going from these you know, skinny Ozepa, is that kinda what you're you're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3544" data-t="3544">thinking</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3545">59:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3545" data-t="3545">the peptide summary is gonna be? You know, it could be. But at the end of the day, you have to you have to have a foundation. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3552" data-t="3552">You have to have a foundation. You can't,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3556" data-t="3556">you can you can do the peptides. You know, I think I think people should do them. They should do them. They should they should heal faster. They should make their hair grow in thick.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3564" data-t="3564">They should they should,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3566" data-t="3566">make their skin nicer and get slim and try them. Give them a give them a test, but you you use them like the little kick in the butt to get you out the door. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3576" data-t="3576">When when the summer comes,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3579">59:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3579" data-t="3579">you're gonna see</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3581" data-t="3581">you're gonna see the same thing. It's always plebs and pioneers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3585" data-t="3585">The folks who used the Ozempic,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3588" data-t="3588">but they didn't work out, they didn't they didn't jump into being a pioneer, they're gonna have that flabby skin. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3595" data-t="3595">They're gonna be they're gonna be flopping around. It's gonna sound like it's clapping when they're walking.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3601" data-t="3601">The guys who got to the gym, they took they took the Ozempic. They said, but you know what? I wanna get I wanna get jacked. I wanna drive this bus. I really wanna,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3609">1:00:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3609" data-t="3609">I wanna build the body.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3610" data-t="3610">They're gonna be walking around. They're gonna have really earned it. You know?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3614" data-t="3614">I think there's a lot of paths to the summit. There's a lot of directions to go.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3620">1:00:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3620" data-t="3620">Yeah. People aren't gonna walk around</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3622" data-t="3622">people aren't gonna walk around looking like pub crews as much.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3625">1:00:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3625" data-t="3625">Right. People people will be able to tell whether whether or not you listen to forty hours per week or whether you had</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3632" data-t="3632">you gotta digest on CHADCPT.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3635">1:00:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3635" data-t="3635">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3637" data-t="3637">Kind of wrapping this up, Rob.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3640" data-t="3640">What's got you optimistic? What's got you bullish? What's got you excited</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3644" data-t="3644">about the future</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3645" data-t="3645">as things are looking, you know, very interesting in the begin the very beginnings of the four the first turning?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3653">1:00:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3653" data-t="3653">I think it's all optimism.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3656" data-t="3656">It's all positive. It's you you gotta you gotta be conscious</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3659" data-t="3659">of the demoralization</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3661" data-t="3661">campaign. And once you remember</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3663" data-t="3663">that it's just a demoralization</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3665" data-t="3665">campaign,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3666">1:01:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3666" data-t="3666">that's all it is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3668" data-t="3668">That's all it is. You know?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3669" data-t="3669">And it could be a big one. It could be a small one. It could be something backed by billions of dollars. It could be something</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3676" data-t="3676">happening in your front</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3678" data-t="3678">yard. If it's a demoralization</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3679" data-t="3679">campaign and you know it's a demoralization campaign,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3683">1:01:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3683" data-t="3683">okay.</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3683">That's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3684" data-t="3684">fine. You know, you you sit down. You go to your desk.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3688" data-t="3688">You write a new article.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3690" data-t="3690">You do some real journalism.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3693" data-t="3693">You listen to your 40,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3695">1:01:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3695" data-t="3695">and that's all you need. This is this is Mana. This is this is what's gonna get you to the promised land.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3701" data-t="3701">It's all back to basics. It's gonna be the back to basics bear market. So that's that's the optimism is because we already know we already know that this protocol works.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3710" data-t="3710">Protocol in terms of, like, you know, the the Bitcoin protocol, protocol in terms of just, you know, staying humble, doing what you do, stacking sets, producing good content, staying away from the glaze, everything that your mom told you growing up,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3724" data-t="3724">except maybe smoking cigarettes. She should have said smoke a pack of Marlboros a day.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3728" data-t="3728">But it's just back to basics and, you know, thank God we're long enough in the Bitcoin game that we kinda know what the basics are. So you can just relax. You can let the you can let the psy op pass you by,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3740" data-t="3740">and you can just do your work. And that, I think, is the most optimistic thing. I think we're gonna see we're gonna see craziness. We're gonna see things exploding, things going up and down,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3749">1:02:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3749" data-t="3749">but we know we know the past now. We've got we've got a few years under our belt, and there's nothing better than experience.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3756">1:02:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3756" data-t="3756">Absolutely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3759" data-t="3759">We're we're we're hardened. We're prepared for this. We're battle tested.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3764" data-t="3764">We're ready.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3765">1:02:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3765" data-t="3765">Podcasters are made, not born.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3767">1:02:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3767" data-t="3767">Well, they're called.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3772">1:02:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3772" data-t="3772">They're the called of the bugle, become a podcaster.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3774" data-t="3774">Uh-huh.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3776" data-t="3776">Well, you got you got any</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3780" data-t="3780">thing that you wanna tell the world before we wrap this one up? No. I couldn't possibly end with a glaze.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3788">1:03:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rob Warren</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3788" data-t="3788">Well, I can end with a glaze. It's just been a pleasure with these esteemed journalists.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3792" data-t="3792">Well, yeah. We always we always offer our guests the final place. Journalism journalism is rare in this industry, and the more that we can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3800" data-t="3800">promote it, the more that we can celebrate it, the more that we could share it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3805" data-t="3805">that's what we have to do. So it's, the the the privilege is mine.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3810">1:03:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3810" data-t="3810">Well, thank you very much for, coming on, Rob.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3813" data-t="3813">You you truly are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3815" data-t="3815">a pioneer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3816" data-t="3816">in this industry and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3819" data-t="3819">appreciate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3820" data-t="3820">one. Likewise.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3829">1:03:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kailey Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3829" data-t="3829">Are you tired of fun already mad</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3874">1:04:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kailey Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3874" data-t="3874">kids got it easy. Hey. But my future look like a lotus grand freezey.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3879" data-t="3879">They see stack sets like it's therapy. I stack things I eat in some</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3884" data-t="3884">Everyone plays in their own reflection.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3926">1:05:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kailey Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3926" data-t="3926">Comment section's the closest hell I know. They say I'm a go up just for Leo. I believe I'm burnout in Christmas Eve. I've got one meaning, not another threat. Not another told you so from a guy named Ted. You can praise the Lord.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3941" data-t="3941">Softly now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3942" data-t="3942">Lord the lights. Lord me out. Praise the lord.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3946" data-t="3946">Let me rest. I'm tired of winning other people's</span></span></p>