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+title: "Transcript: Jason Lowery's Drones | Bugle Weekly Episode 39"
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+date: 2024-12-16
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-6">0:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-6" data-t="6">Twas the announcement before the announcement</span> <span class="cue" id="t-9" data-t="9">when all online threads,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-12" data-t="12">Not a soul doubted Dennis Porter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-16" data-t="16">not even the feds.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-18" data-t="18">Twitter Spaces reminders were set with such care,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-22" data-t="22">in hopes that Dennis Porter</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-25">0:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-25" data-t="25">would soon announce announcements</span> <span class="cue" id="t-27" data-t="27">there. The masses were constantly checking their phones for news to find,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-33" data-t="33">while visions of Bitcoin reserves danced in their minds,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-37" data-t="37">and plebs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-39" data-t="39">in their group chats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-41" data-t="41">And I, in my app, had just settled our brains for sailors' speculative attack.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-46">0:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-46" data-t="46">When out on the web,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-49" data-t="49">there arose such a clatter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-51" data-t="51">I sprang from the bed to see what was the matter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-56" data-t="56">Away to the computer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-58" data-t="58">I flew like a flash,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-60" data-t="60">tore open the browser</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-62">1:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-62" data-t="62">and threw up the sash.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-64" data-t="64">The glow of the screen</span> <span class="cue" id="t-65" data-t="65">on the new fallen announcement</span> <span class="cue" id="t-67" data-t="67">gave the luster of midday to objects below.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-71" data-t="71">When?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-73" data-t="73">What to my wondering eyes</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-75">1:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-75" data-t="75">should appear?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-77" data-t="77">But a headline so bold, it caused quite the cheer with a little old icon,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-83" data-t="83">so lively and quick.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-85" data-t="85">I knew in a moment,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-87" data-t="87">it must be Dennis Porter's trick.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-90" data-t="90">More rapid than eagles, his followers, they came.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-94">1:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-94" data-t="94">And he whistled</span> <span class="cue" id="t-95" data-t="95">and shouted,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-97" data-t="97">and called politicians</span> <span class="cue" id="t-98" data-t="98">by name. Now conservatives,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-101" data-t="101">now liberals,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-103" data-t="103">now anarchists and more.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-106">1:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-106" data-t="106">On bulls,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-107" data-t="107">on bears,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-109" data-t="109">on all who keep score,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-111" data-t="111">to the top of the charts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-112" data-t="112">to the front of the news,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-115" data-t="115">massive breaking announcements will all be made soon.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-119">1:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-119" data-t="119">And then</span> <span class="cue" id="t-120" data-t="120">in a twinkling,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-122" data-t="122">I heard on the Internet</span> <span class="cue" id="t-125" data-t="125">the prancing and pawing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-127" data-t="127">of each eager bet.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-130" data-t="130">As I drew in my head and was turning around,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-134">2:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-134" data-t="134">down the feed, Dennis Porter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-136" data-t="136">came with the bound. He was dressed in his suit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-140" data-t="140">from his head to his foot,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-142" data-t="142">and his positioning was long calls.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-145" data-t="145">He had not one single foot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-148" data-t="148">A bundle of papers he had flung on his back,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-151">2:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-151" data-t="151">and he looked like a peddler</span> <span class="cue" id="t-153" data-t="153">just opening his back. His eyes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-157" data-t="157">how they twinkled.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-159" data-t="159">His dimples, how merry.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-162" data-t="162">His cheeks were like roses.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-166" data-t="166">His nose like a cherry.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-169">2:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-169" data-t="169">His droll little mouth was drawn up like a Bitcoin podcaster,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-175" data-t="175">and the beard of his chin was thicker than plaster.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-180" data-t="180">The stump of a pen,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-182" data-t="182">he held tight in his teeth,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-184" data-t="184">and the ink it encircled his head like a wreath.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-189" data-t="189">He had a broad face</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-191">3:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-191" data-t="191">and an intoxicating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-192" data-t="192">smile</span> <span class="cue" id="t-193" data-t="193">that entranced</span> <span class="cue" id="t-195" data-t="195">all who listened</span> <span class="cue" id="t-196" data-t="196">on spaces for a while. He was confident</span> <span class="cue" id="t-200" data-t="200">and charming,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-201">3:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-201" data-t="201">an alpha orange pillar,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-204" data-t="204">and I laughed when I saw him.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-207" data-t="207">He was a stone cold lady killer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-211" data-t="211">A wink of his eye and a twist of his head</span> <span class="cue" id="t-214" data-t="214">soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread</span> <span class="cue" id="t-218" data-t="218">he spoke not a word</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-220">3:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-220" data-t="220">but went straight to his work</span> <span class="cue" id="t-222" data-t="222">and filled all the screens,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-225" data-t="225">then turned with a jerk.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-227" data-t="227">And laying his finger</span> <span class="cue" id="t-229" data-t="229">aside of his nose</span> <span class="cue" id="t-232" data-t="232">and giving a nod,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-234">3:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-234" data-t="234">his space's audience grows.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-237" data-t="237">He sprang to his platform.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-240" data-t="240">To his team gave a whistle,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-243" data-t="243">and away they all flew</span> <span class="cue" id="t-245" data-t="245">like the down of a thistle.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-248" data-t="248">But I heard him exclaim,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-250">4:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-250" data-t="250">here he drove out of sight,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-253" data-t="253">happy announcement to all and to all a good night.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-257">4:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-257" data-t="257">Welcome to this edition of Beagle Weekly. This is your co host, Richard Reeser.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-264" data-t="264">Joining me</span> <span class="cue" id="t-265" data-t="265">today, as usual,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-266" data-t="266">is Rod Palmer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-268" data-t="268">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-269" data-t="269">yeah. Are are you feeling the Christmas spirit?</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-272">4:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-272" data-t="272">You feeling Christmassy?</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-274">4:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-274" data-t="274">Oh, yeah. I'm feeling I'm super excited.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-277" data-t="277">I bought my all my family members.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-280" data-t="280">I got them,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-281" data-t="281">Umbrel nodes and open dimes for Christmas.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-285" data-t="285">And I, I, I made</span> <span class="cue" id="t-287" data-t="287">two hour long,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-289">4:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-289" data-t="289">videos, Bitcoin podcasts, essentially personal Bitcoin podcasts for them. So they, they could listen to that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-295" data-t="295">and, and learn how to use those gifts. I, and then I also made, I burnt, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-302" data-t="302">some C, some old CDs, some CDRs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-304" data-t="304">for some of you that are old enough to remember those. And I put, forty hours worth of Bitcoin podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-309" data-t="309">individually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-310" data-t="310">selected</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-311">5:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-311" data-t="311">for each family member.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-314" data-t="314">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-315" data-t="315">and so I'm hoping that they'll listen to those,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-317" data-t="317">on their Christmas break as well. What about you? Did you get any cool presents for for the greasers? Oh, yeah.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-323">5:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-323" data-t="323">We've got tons of Marlborough</span> <span class="cue" id="t-325" data-t="325">memorabilia</span> <span class="cue" id="t-326" data-t="326">that we're gonna be Oh, yeah. Digital.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-329" data-t="329">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-330" data-t="330">yeah. So we had an interesting conversation with fundamentals.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-334" data-t="334">And,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-335">5:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-335" data-t="335">one thing I should have brought up. So, like, I think Jewish people in America have made, like, a horrible tactical decision,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-342" data-t="342">which is to reject Christmas,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-346" data-t="346">because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-347" data-t="347">you know, like, many of them, they celebrate Hanukkah, but they should also celebrate Christmas. It's part about being American. It has nothing to do with being religious.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-356" data-t="356">And this whole psyop, this war on Christmas</span> <span class="cue" id="t-360" data-t="360">is really just a communist plot because what Christmas ultimately represents</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-366">6:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-366" data-t="366">is it represents American capitalism.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-369" data-t="369">It represents, you know, buying,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-375" data-t="375">gifts for your family,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-377" data-t="377">essentially. It's about boosting The US economy. It's about doing it with credit card debt.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-384" data-t="384">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-386" data-t="386">you know, if you're rejecting that</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-388">6:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-388" data-t="388">as a Jew and you're just saying happy holidays or whatever gay beta shit,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-396" data-t="396">you're you're being un American. So, you know, whether you're religious or not, you have to admit, like, Christmas is a thing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-403" data-t="403">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-404" data-t="404">and submit to it.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-406">6:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-406" data-t="406">There is I mean, I cannot think of a better</span> <span class="cue" id="t-411" data-t="411">event, a better holiday to bring American Christians,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-415" data-t="415">like he said, it's not even religious, just Americans</span> <span class="cue" id="t-417" data-t="417">in general and Jewish people together,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-421" data-t="421">like America's love for consumerism, because I mean, Christmas, like you said, Christmas represents under capitalism, it represents</span> <span class="cue" id="t-427" data-t="427">consumerism</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-429">7:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-429" data-t="429">Americans love consumerism and, you know, and Jews love,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-432" data-t="432">you know, giving, loving people money at really high interest rates and those things could not come together more perfectly than they do at Christmas. And I think that that is a perfect reason for Americans, Jewish and everyone else to celebrate together. You put up. We're not trying to take away,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-450" data-t="450">your candles</span> <span class="cue" id="t-452" data-t="452">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-453" data-t="453">your dreidel spinners.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-454" data-t="454">We're trying</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-456">7:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-456" data-t="456">to add more,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-457" data-t="457">to supplement your life and your experience.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-461">7:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-461" data-t="461">Totally. Yeah. I mean, like, people should look at Christmas as an opportunity to be able to afford taxes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-468" data-t="468">You know what I mean? Like, you should be strategizing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-471" data-t="471">how to get the best write offs,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-474" data-t="474">with gifts. So, like, one of the most American things you could do is to couple</span> <span class="cue" id="t-480" data-t="480">consumer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-481" data-t="481">or, like, products being able to buy these things</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-485">8:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-485" data-t="485">and using it as a business expense to get a tax write off.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-491" data-t="491">Is very important. Right, yeah.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-494">8:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-494" data-t="494">And Jewish</span> <span class="cue" id="t-496" data-t="496">Americans and the rest of the Americans, they can, it's great to come together.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-500" data-t="500">Get find a Jewish accountant and help him</span> <span class="cue" id="t-504" data-t="504">be, you know, help him, help you afford to pay your taxes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-509" data-t="509">Jewish people can definitely help you pay your taxes, be able to afford to pay your taxes.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-514">8:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-514" data-t="514">I mean, like, can you even trust an accountant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-516" data-t="516">if they're not Jewish? You know, I,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-519">8:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-519" data-t="519">my grandma, she had gotten a bunch of troll with the IRS and it really affected her retirement</span> <span class="cue" id="t-525" data-t="525">and her comfort in retirement</span> <span class="cue" id="t-527" data-t="527">very negatively.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-529" data-t="529">And the reason, that it happened is because my grandma trusted, an accountant, a CPA that was not Jewish.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-537" data-t="537">And it cost her, it cost her a great deal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-541" data-t="541">of time in her retirement.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-544">9:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-544" data-t="544">I mean, can you trust a libertarian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-546" data-t="546">podcaster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-548" data-t="548">if they're not Jewish? Yeah, that needs</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-550">9:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-550" data-t="550">I don't think you'll be able to find one though.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-553" data-t="553">You know, the only ones that have any viewings on on like YouTube</span> <span class="cue" id="t-558" data-t="558">podcasts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-559" data-t="559">you know, they might find one who's not.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-561">9:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-561" data-t="561">I think Tom Woods might not. He might be a gentile,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-565" data-t="565">but Yeah, yeah. I kinda wonder if he's trustworthy.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-571">9:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-571" data-t="571">No. I think Tom Woods is mostly popular with people from Arkansas</span> <span class="cue" id="t-575" data-t="575">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-576" data-t="576">Kentucky, Tennessee, but I don't know. Maybe he's I don't think he's very mainstream. In the World Delibertarian</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-582">9:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-582" data-t="582">podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-583" data-t="583">he's kinda like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-587" data-t="587">the That was a Peter one. Warrens</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-590">9:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-590" data-t="590">apart. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Yeah.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-593">9:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-593" data-t="593">Yeah. He's he's at the top. Like, all all the Jewish libertarian podcasters,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-598" data-t="598">they,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-599" data-t="599">vouch for him.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-602">10:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-602" data-t="602">Like Okay. Yeah. I had to listen to libertarian podcasts in a few years. Sound a little bit odd. I,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-609" data-t="609">I kinda</span> <span class="cue" id="t-610" data-t="610">I kinda I was big into libertarian podcast until probably the end of twenty twelve, like after Occupy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-617" data-t="617">after the Tea Party stuff.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-620" data-t="620">I kinda got bored with it, I guess. I use yeah. I just libertarian podcasts are boring. I agree.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-626">10:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-626" data-t="626">Yeah. I mean, they they they got completely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-629" data-t="629">train wrecked by Bitcoin podcasts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-632" data-t="632">You know? They they'd been there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-635" data-t="635">podcasting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-636" data-t="636">you know, all these cool ideas, and then they missed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-640" data-t="640">the one idea that actually could</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-644">10:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-644" data-t="644">promote their ideology,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-646" data-t="646">and they just, like, totally slept on it.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-649">10:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-649" data-t="649">Yeah. That's that's what happens. I mean, once taxes start to get too expensive</span> <span class="cue" id="t-654" data-t="654">and once inflation starts to actually rear its head,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-658" data-t="658">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-659" data-t="659">libertarians are just going to lose out because they don't have NGU libertarians don't have NGU. They don't, their podcasts don't get any more popular.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-668" data-t="668">Their conferences don't get any bigger. Their money's value doesn't you know, gold, you know, I could I could just put my money in, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-677" data-t="677">the asset the stock market. You know, it's fine.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-680">11:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-680" data-t="680">They don't have NGU. It's just it's it's kind of a stagnant. They don't get more votes. It's just a stagnant,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-686" data-t="686">ideology</span> <span class="cue" id="t-687" data-t="687">in terms of, you know, podcast.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-689">11:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-689" data-t="689">Mhmm.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-690" data-t="690">Yeah. I mean, like, when you couple</span> <span class="cue" id="t-693" data-t="693">free markets with NGU,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-695" data-t="695">it's a pretty powerful thing. And the the fact that they're missing the NGU</span> <span class="cue" id="t-700" data-t="700">is definitely what cripples them. Like, you know, a lot of them, you know, promote, like, gold because they're a bunch of stupid boomers. But Right. Right. Gold doesn't gold doesn't have NGU.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-712">11:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-712" data-t="712">NGO. One</span> <span class="cue" id="t-713" data-t="713">of the consequences</span> <span class="cue" id="t-715" data-t="715">of not adding NGO</span> <span class="cue" id="t-717" data-t="717">is that you have to make trade offs,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-721" data-t="721">just to survive.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-722" data-t="722">And</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-724">12:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-724" data-t="724">in the fiat system,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-726" data-t="726">people had to make woke trade offs They had to go woke,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-731" data-t="731">or else they didn't think they could survive for a while You know, and that's how it happened to the libertarians They had to go woke in 2024</span> <span class="cue" id="t-738" data-t="738">in the election And, you know, that's why it cost him Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-743" data-t="743">blockcasters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-744" data-t="744">Donald Trump promised the libertarians that he would nominate a libertarian for his cabinet</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-749">12:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-749" data-t="749">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-750" data-t="750">he eventually had to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-753" data-t="753">take that back because he had too many</span> <span class="cue" id="t-757" data-t="757">Bitcoiners and Bitcoin podcasters,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-760" data-t="760">that he owed for helping him win because libertarians didn't help him win.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-765">12:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-765" data-t="765">Yeah, I think they were expecting a libertarian podcaster.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-770">12:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-770" data-t="770">But Right.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-772">12:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-772" data-t="772">Yeah.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-774">12:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-774" data-t="774">But, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-776" data-t="776">this happens.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-777">12:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-777" data-t="777">It</span> <span class="cue" id="t-778" data-t="778">is If I need to NGO. You can you can kind of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-781" data-t="781">massage the the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-784" data-t="784">definition of what a libertarian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-786" data-t="786">is. You know what I mean? Because Peter's deal is he's a libertarian.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-790">13:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-790" data-t="790">Right. Right. Exactly. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-792" data-t="792">if you wanna say that you're a Bitcoiner</span> <span class="cue" id="t-796" data-t="796">and, you know, you post some</span> <span class="cue" id="t-799" data-t="799">some FUD on the timeline</span> <span class="cue" id="t-802" data-t="802">or somebody asks if they can buy you a beer or pay for a, you know, an Uber and you don't have a lightning wallet to, give them an invoice to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-812" data-t="812">they're gonna know pretty quickly that that you're warping, that you're not really a Bitcoiner, but</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-818">13:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-818" data-t="818">you could say you're a libertarian and it's very difficult for anybody to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-823" data-t="823">to determine if you're telling the truth at all.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-827">13:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-827" data-t="827">Well, I'm excited</span> <span class="cue" id="t-829" data-t="829">for to hear what the libertarians,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-831" data-t="831">how they respond and they start overlapping with Bitcoin a little bit more because I really wanna hear their thoughts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-839" data-t="839">on Tether</span> <span class="cue" id="t-840" data-t="840">in the free market of stablecoins.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-843" data-t="843">That's something That's true.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-844">14:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-844" data-t="844">I think we should demand the Mises Institute</span> <span class="cue" id="t-848" data-t="848">puts out. Like, I I wanna see Luke Rockwell,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-853" data-t="853">handful of these other,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-855" data-t="855">libertarian influencers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-858" data-t="858">do some commentary</span> <span class="cue" id="t-860" data-t="860">on Tether.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-861">14:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-861" data-t="861">Yeah. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-863" data-t="863">I wanna I wanna know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-866" data-t="866">especially if they're the gold bug libertarians,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-869" data-t="869">if you if you really wanna separate money from state, how do you criticize</span> <span class="cue" id="t-874" data-t="874">The United States,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-876" data-t="876">strategic Bitcoin reserve</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-879">14:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-879" data-t="879">that, is going to increase our NGU next year. How do you criticize that when</span> <span class="cue" id="t-885" data-t="885">you cheer on governments and central banks buying gold?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-889" data-t="889">Why do you claim that gold is valuable because of, you know, governments and and central banks using it.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-897">14:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-897" data-t="897">Doesn't that make you a hypocrite? Yeah. I'm curious to see if they start advocating for putting gold on the blockchain because there's no way to actually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-906" data-t="906">validate how much gold these governments have or if they have any in the first place. Right. It's like it's like</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-913">15:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-913" data-t="913">libertarians are praising China for buying gold or The United States for buying gold without even verifying, like, with an on chain address</span> <span class="cue" id="t-921" data-t="921">if that if that gold is in self custody or not. At least at least Bitcoiners know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-928" data-t="928">exactly how much Bitcoin the government buys and because the government has to tell you, the government has to KYC its addresses</span> <span class="cue" id="t-935" data-t="935">to its citizens</span> <span class="cue" id="t-936" data-t="936">Mhmm. Or else predator</span> <span class="cue" id="t-938" data-t="938">will fucking find out right away. Well, I,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-942">15:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-942" data-t="942">I'm curious about this story. So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-948" data-t="948">Jason Lowry</span> <span class="cue" id="t-949" data-t="949">has been flying drones over New Jersey. I think you've followed the story a bit closer than I have, so I'm curious what your thoughts are on that. Yeah. There's a lot of speculation</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-960">15:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-960" data-t="960">about what's going on over New Jersey.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-964" data-t="964">Some people think it's Iran</span> <span class="cue" id="t-965" data-t="965">some people think that it's aliens</span> <span class="cue" id="t-969" data-t="969">Donald Trump posted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-972" data-t="972">that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-973" data-t="973">a picture of the drones</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-975">16:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-975" data-t="975">delivering McDonald's to former,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-978" data-t="978">New Jersey governor Chris Christie is really fast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-982" data-t="982">Some people think that it's a sign up</span> <span class="cue" id="t-985" data-t="985">and, you know, I think what we're learning is that it's actually the U. S. Government</span> <span class="cue" id="t-991" data-t="991">like the state is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-993" data-t="993">you know, just testing some technology,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-996">16:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-996" data-t="996">testing how Americans react to that technology,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-999" data-t="999">and Jason Lowry is, you know, he's famous for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1003" data-t="1003">experimenting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1004" data-t="1004">with psyops and block,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1006" data-t="1006">you know, he's block scripts and these other different social media spiff attacks, but now he's taken it to the sky.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1014" data-t="1014">He's taken it to the sky as a drone commander. Yeah, it seems like,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1019">16:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1019" data-t="1019">from my very little</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1021" data-t="1021">research on the topic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1023" data-t="1023">that the government has had this problem or they foresaw this problem,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1028" data-t="1028">which is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1030" data-t="1030">there wasn't enough regulations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1032" data-t="1032">around the drones,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1034">17:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1034" data-t="1034">right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1035" data-t="1035">Like individuals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1036" data-t="1036">had way too much power to be able</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1040" data-t="1040">to do things</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1041" data-t="1041">without</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1043" data-t="1043">any real trouble.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1045">17:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1045" data-t="1045">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1047" data-t="1047">so they needed to create some sort of trouble in order to regulate. So they're just educating the market on the need for regulation. They're like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1056" data-t="1056">the government's really good at this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1058" data-t="1058">A very notable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1060" data-t="1060">recent</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1062" data-t="1062">showcase of this</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1064">17:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1064" data-t="1064">process was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1066" data-t="1066">January 6</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1068" data-t="1068">where</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1069" data-t="1069">they wanted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1071" data-t="1071">to show that the government needed more power to to wrangle citizens and to surveil them and to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1079" data-t="1079">you know, do all these things,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1081">18:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1081" data-t="1081">in order to, you know, keep everybody safe, obviously.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1085" data-t="1085">And so what they did, you know, people didn't believe them. They're like, we don't need to be surveilled anymore than we are.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1092" data-t="1092">So what they did is they put a bunch of federal agents</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1095" data-t="1095">in the capital</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1097" data-t="1097">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1098" data-t="1098">essentially</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1100">18:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1100" data-t="1100">cause some ruckus</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1102" data-t="1102">to educate the market.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1105" data-t="1105">So it seems like a really smart tactic by Jason</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1108" data-t="1108">and crew at the Space Force flying these drones around.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1112">18:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1112" data-t="1112">How do</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1114" data-t="1114">you think he got, how do you think he planned? Why do you think he chose</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1118" data-t="1118">this particular PSIOP,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1121" data-t="1121">excuse me, this particular strategy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1124" data-t="1124">in New Jersey. Why do you think he did that?</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1127">18:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1127" data-t="1127">Well, I think they were thinking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1130" data-t="1130">you know, everybody knows that New Jersey sucks. Right? Like, people call it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1135" data-t="1135">America's shithole. You know what I mean?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1140" data-t="1140">And so I think, you know, the military,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1142" data-t="1142">they have this attitude which is, you know, if they're gonna terrorize people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1147" data-t="1147">let's terrorize people that</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1150">19:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1150" data-t="1150">they don't think matter, you know? And so they're like, let's go screw with the the New Jersey people because they suck. Because they live somewhere that sucks. And so, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1161" data-t="1161">they've been doing stuff like this for for generations,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1164" data-t="1164">like, in rural America,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1168" data-t="1168">where they,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1169" data-t="1169">you know, go and, like, kill people's cows.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1173" data-t="1173">You you heard about this phenomenon happening where, you know, ranchers are finding their cows dying in in very strange ways.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1182">19:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1182" data-t="1182">Yes. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1185">19:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1185" data-t="1185">Yeah. So, you know, we're in Trump Trump's America. So there's been this big shift where now rural America</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1191" data-t="1191">matters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1193" data-t="1193">again.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1195" data-t="1195">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1198" data-t="1198">they they needed a new testing ground of, you know, citizens to go abuse. And and while it doesn't look like they're damaging anybody's property,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1208" data-t="1208">they are causing some psychological</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1212">20:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1212" data-t="1212">discomfort for these people.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1214" data-t="1214">And I I I think that's just, you know, what it is. They they they figured the people in New Jersey were an easy target. And, like, you you can't, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1224" data-t="1224">do phenomena. So one of the important parts of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1227" data-t="1227">a phenomenon like this for it to work well is you need to be somewhere where there's a lot of people on social media</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1234" data-t="1234">to distribute the information.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1237" data-t="1237">And rural America,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1239">20:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1239" data-t="1239">a lot of these places, they don't even have cell signal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1242" data-t="1242">And so that's not so if you're gonna go and you're gonna terrorize people in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1249" data-t="1249">Idaho or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1250" data-t="1250">Wyoming or Montana</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1252" data-t="1252">or, you know, Texas, rural Texas, they there's a good chance they might not have cell phones.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1259" data-t="1259">And so they have to go after, you know, the people living in this kinda like suburban</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1264">21:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1264" data-t="1264">dense sprawl</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1266" data-t="1266">in New Jersey,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1267">21:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1267" data-t="1267">where they do have cell service for the for the maximum reach. Do you do you think that, it seems like, you know, like, dumber, like, just normies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1277" data-t="1277">they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1278" data-t="1278">TikTok, the people that go viral, but people like talk to it they're just they're just kind of simpletons</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1283" data-t="1283">and they're just they're just very easy to impress</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1286" data-t="1286">and they know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1289" data-t="1289">that putting some UFOs</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1291">21:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1291" data-t="1291">over the, you know, the people who are like The Sopranos,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1294" data-t="1294">they're gonna think they're gonna be like, Wow, this is aliens and this is real. So like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1299" data-t="1299">people in like working class neighborhoods in South New Jersey, like they don't they haven't had compliance training.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1305" data-t="1305">All of these spacecrafts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1307" data-t="1307">the lights, the, the flashing, the colors,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1311" data-t="1311">the frequency and the, you know, the intensity of the lights on these craft were in full compliance with American air traffic control laws.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1320">21:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1320" data-t="1320">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1321" data-t="1321">being able to, to fool,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1323" data-t="1323">you know, people in Washington DC or New York City</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1327" data-t="1327">with, with UFOs that were fully compliant with air traffic control, it's gonna be very difficult and people were gonna see right through that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1334" data-t="1334">But you got a flood neighborhood in, in South New Jersey.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1338" data-t="1338">It's,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1339">22:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1339" data-t="1339">they're gonna, they're gonna think that those aliens</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1343" data-t="1343">complied.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1344" data-t="1344">They pre comply. They're gonna actually fall for like a trick like that. Like they would think the they they would think the aliens would care about our compliance laws. So it's just it's easy to fool them and see how they react to compliance technology that's just way</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1358" data-t="1358">over their head and way outside of their comprehension.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1361">22:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1361" data-t="1361">Mhmm. Totally.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1363" data-t="1363">Yeah. I mean, it was good that that Jason followed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1366" data-t="1366">the FAA's rules.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1368" data-t="1368">The the government doesn't always do that. They don't always follow their own rules, unfortunately.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1374">22:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1374" data-t="1374">That is why it is so bullish to have somebody like Jason Lowry,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1378" data-t="1378">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1380" data-t="1380">having influence in the Pentagon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1382" data-t="1382">is because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1384" data-t="1384">Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1385" data-t="1385">fixes</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1386">23:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1386" data-t="1386">the problems that we constantly talk about on the show about non compliance and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1391" data-t="1391">just a poor behavior by the state and by the government.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1395" data-t="1395">Jason, because he's a Bitcoiner, because he understands the protocol, he</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1400" data-t="1400">when he, when he does a sign up, he, he does not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1402" data-t="1402">cut any corners. It's because he knows all eyes run. It's like if, wait, if Bitcoin has a strategic reserve instead of gold and Fort Knox, everybody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1411" data-t="1411">knows exactly which logo and which website to go to to make sure</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1417">23:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1417" data-t="1417">that the government's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1418" data-t="1418">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1420" data-t="1420">claim about how much Bitcoin they have. They they can go to mempool.com and see for themselves and and and verify that open source.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1427" data-t="1427">And it it it fixes everything. Jason Lowry will now have so many more eyes on the the Pentagon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1433" data-t="1433">because he's in charge of the of protecting the strategic Bitcoin reserve. People know that Jason Lowry, the info,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1440" data-t="1440">or the sophomore author,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1441">24:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1441" data-t="1441">like they're gonna be paying attention and it's it's happening in El Salvador. I mean, El Salvador</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1447" data-t="1447">is, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1449" data-t="1449">they could be totally communist authoritarian state, but because Bukele has chosen Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1455" data-t="1455">he can only</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1456" data-t="1456">put</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1457" data-t="1457">people in prison without trial if they really deserve it. He cannot abuse that system because so many people are paying attention though because of Bitcoin. If you're an American and you wanna go to Bitcoin Beach and buy purposes with your strike wallet, you wanna know that</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1472">24:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1472" data-t="1472">because of Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1474" data-t="1474">you can do whatever you want in El Salvador and not be punished most likely. But if somebody who's poor and they try to like, you know, if they try to do something that they deserve to go to jail, they're gonna go there for the rest of their life. They won't threaten you.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1487">24:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1487" data-t="1487">Totally.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1489" data-t="1489">Yeah. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1491" data-t="1491">like when we're looking at tactics like this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1494" data-t="1494">that are being employed, so, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1497" data-t="1497">a good parallel</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1499" data-t="1499">of kinda what what I think we're watching happening</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1503">25:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1503" data-t="1503">is is 09:11, the response to 09:11.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1506" data-t="1506">So, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1508" data-t="1508">a lot of people don't realize this or they've forgotten about it. But you used to be able to smoke on airplanes. You</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1515" data-t="1515">used to be able to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1517" data-t="1517">travel through airports without, you know, being groped</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1521" data-t="1521">and and</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1522">25:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1522" data-t="1522">fried by my microwaves.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1526" data-t="1526">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1528" data-t="1528">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1529" data-t="1529">the the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1530" data-t="1530">CIA funded</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1531" data-t="1531">groups in Al Qaeda,</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1534">25:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1534" data-t="1534">you know, played a part in, you know, bombing these buildings in in New York,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1539" data-t="1539">which meant that the general populace needed to be surveilled.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1543" data-t="1543">The CIA funded,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1545" data-t="1545">groups</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1547" data-t="1547">were the problem. They were the ones that theoretically needed to be KYC'd,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1551" data-t="1551">but that was used as a catalyst</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1553">25:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1553" data-t="1553">to to KYC and molest the general population.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1557" data-t="1557">And I kinda think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1559" data-t="1559">the same thing is happening here with the drones.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1563" data-t="1563">Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1564" data-t="1564">the drones are a part of modern warfare,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1567" data-t="1567">today.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1568">26:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1568" data-t="1568">That's been, like, a big shift that's happened over the last few years. A lot of these consumer drones,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1574" data-t="1574">can be converted,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1576" data-t="1576">to weapons. And, you know, one thing that we know about the second amendment,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1581" data-t="1581">is that if you're purchasing a firearm, it's very important for the government to KYC use super hard</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1588" data-t="1588">and to have a lot of restrictions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1590" data-t="1590">and regulations.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1592">26:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1592" data-t="1592">The government is the one that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1594" data-t="1594">creates the most problems</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1596" data-t="1596">with using firearms</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1598" data-t="1598">in the same way</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1600" data-t="1600">because CIA funded groups are the ones that create the most terrorism.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1605" data-t="1605">But</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1607">26:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1607" data-t="1607">you know, they use that as a way to to surveil you, essentially. So they wanna make sure that they can operate their drones</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1615" data-t="1615">noncompliantly,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1616" data-t="1616">but you have to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1618" data-t="1618">really,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1619" data-t="1619">really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1620" data-t="1620">walk the typewriter</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1622">27:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1622" data-t="1622">of compliance here. Do you think that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1625" data-t="1625">we're gonna see an acceleration</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1627" data-t="1627">in this type</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1629" data-t="1629">of activity and behavior from how do you think that Donald Trump's going to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1634" data-t="1634">make sure that, this stuff gets, you know, nipped in the bud right away? Yeah. I don't know. Like, I I could see,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1644">27:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1644" data-t="1644">red log</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1645" data-t="1645">red,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1647" data-t="1647">what do they call it? Red flag drone laws.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1650" data-t="1650">That's kinda what I see. Explain that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1652" data-t="1652">So so there's this idea with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1655" data-t="1655">red flag gun laws. So essentially, the state can arbitrarily choose to take somebody's firearms because they deem them as dangerous. Right? Yeah. Okay. So you take that</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1665">27:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1665" data-t="1665">and you apply it to drones. Do</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1668">27:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1668" data-t="1668">you think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1669" data-t="1669">they could enforce that? How do you, I mean, if they catch a drone, how do they, how do they know that the the person operating the drone,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1677" data-t="1677">you know, is is a non is doing it non compliantly?</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1680">28:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1680" data-t="1680">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1682" data-t="1682">I I I think they would, so they a lot of these drones, they they track them with, serial codes. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1689" data-t="1689">And so when you get them,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1691" data-t="1691">they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1693" data-t="1693">they've worked on the manufacturers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1696" data-t="1696">so that you have to register with the FAA</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1699">28:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1699" data-t="1699">right off the bat. So you have to be compliant to even use it. Right? And they're Internet connected. They have a serial number.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1707" data-t="1707">They do it that way.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1709" data-t="1709">But there's a lot of people out there that build their own drones</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1712" data-t="1712">noncompliantly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1714" data-t="1714">that that are not registered with the FAA. Probably probably the majority of drone users are noncompliant</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1720">28:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1720" data-t="1720">at this point. Can they do, like is that, like, Nedex with three d printing? Is he, like, three d printing drones?</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1726">28:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1726" data-t="1726">Yeah. There's people doing that that stuff. I I think probably with the majority of them, they're just going on the Internet</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1734">28:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1734" data-t="1734">and buying different parts and piecing it together and using, awesome stuff. I need you to do like if seed signer started making do yourself open source drones.</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1744">29:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1744" data-t="1744">Well, I mean, that would be like a super useful thing. So, like, imagine somebody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1750" data-t="1750">comes into your house, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1752" data-t="1752">with a wrench</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1754" data-t="1754">and you could take your hardware wallets that are attached to an open source non KYC drone</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1760" data-t="1760">and fly them to different locations so that they can't even, you know, try it. You could you could fly OpenDimes</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1768">29:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1768" data-t="1768">over prison walls and turn on OpenDimes to, like, if you, you know, if you if one of your best friends from your meetup goes to jail for not paying their taxes, you could still drop an open dime into them in jail.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1779" data-t="1779">And so they can buy cigarettes in jail. Mhmm. Totally.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1783">29:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1783" data-t="1783">Or or a phone with a custodial lightning wallet</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1787" data-t="1787">or</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1788">29:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1788" data-t="1788">yeah. You could drop yeah. You could drop a piece of paper with your inputs so they could follow you on Nostr. They could communicate with you on Nostr</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1794" data-t="1794">Mhmm. Without being censored.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1796">29:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1796" data-t="1796">Yeah. So, I mean, yeah, the the compliance landscape is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1801" data-t="1801">is for church for sure changing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1804" data-t="1804">And,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1806">30:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1806" data-t="1806">I don't know. But I I think I wonder if we The noncompliant</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1810">30:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1810" data-t="1810">drone</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1811" data-t="1811">community is bigger than the three d printed firearm community.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1816">30:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1816" data-t="1816">That's true. But we talked about something</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1819" data-t="1819">off air,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1821" data-t="1821">earlier that I think that maybe applies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1824" data-t="1824">here is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1826" data-t="1826">the compliance landscape is changing. But the best way to set yourself up for success</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1833" data-t="1833">in this changing landscape is to not</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1837">30:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1837" data-t="1837">let</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1839" data-t="1839">the government, not let the mainstream media, not let the Bitcoin podcast is you need a non Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1847" data-t="1847">podcast</span> <span class="cue" data-t="1847">to frame</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1849" data-t="1849">the debate about what compliance is and how compliance, you know, should be,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1854" data-t="1854">developed</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1855">30:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1855" data-t="1855">and and be the ones that you want to be the compliance cantilever.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1859" data-t="1859">You don't want to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1860" data-t="1860">the, you know, the downstream,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1862" data-t="1862">the complier.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1864" data-t="1864">You wanna be the one who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1866" data-t="1866">sets the rules and creates the compliance.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1870">31:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1870" data-t="1870">And the best way to do that is by talking about it on Bitcoin podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1875" data-t="1875">and naming about it and posting about it online because that is where the debate is coming. Bitcoin Twitter is where</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1882" data-t="1882">the public debate happens about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1886" data-t="1886">what happens from now on. Now that Bitcoin has won and Bitcoin is now the most important part of the government,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1893" data-t="1893">we frame the narrative on compliance and we can say, no, okay, why, you know, it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1898" data-t="1898">that's where the influence happens. That's this is why everybody needs to become an influencer</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1903">31:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1903" data-t="1903">because we have to influence</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1905" data-t="1905">policy.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1906">31:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1906" data-t="1906">The the key the CIA</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1908" data-t="1908">needs to be KYC'd.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1910" data-t="1910">They they can't have special privileges.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1913" data-t="1913">If we're gonna be KYC'd, they need to be KYC'd.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1917">31:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1917" data-t="1917">Right. They want to</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1919">31:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1919" data-t="1919">KYC'd, then they need to lead lift KYC regulations on us. But Right. It I'm here</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1926" data-t="1926">And for equality</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1928" data-t="1928">in this relationship.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1931">32:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1931" data-t="1931">The</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1933" data-t="1933">Bitcoin is a check on power. It is not important to KYC</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1938" data-t="1938">a pleb or a Bitcoin miner with his Biddex. It is important to KYC</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1943" data-t="1943">the FBI,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1944" data-t="1944">KYC, the CIA,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1946" data-t="1946">KYC,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1947">32:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1947" data-t="1947">the DPA,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1948" data-t="1948">KYC, the Treasury.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1950" data-t="1950">Citizens can just log in, go to mempool.space</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1954" data-t="1954">and verify</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1957" data-t="1957">the government's activity on the chain,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1960" data-t="1960">as long as they know, you know,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1962">32:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1962" data-t="1962">their addresses.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1964">32:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1964" data-t="1964">Yeah. I mean, like, this is part of the reason why,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1968" data-t="1968">like, January 6 was so confusing for people is because the FBI agents that were participating in it were not KYC.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1977" data-t="1977">And the same thing in this drone situation is, like, you know, we know it's Jason Lowry because we're journalists, but not everybody is a journalist.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1987" data-t="1987">So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1989" data-t="1989">you know, these people poor people of New Jersey getting terrorized,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1993" data-t="1993">by Jason,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1995">33:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1995" data-t="1995">thinking that they're looking at aliens or or Iranian drones or or who knows what.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2001" data-t="2001">It that that's all a failure of the government</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2005" data-t="2005">failing AYC.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2007">33:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2007" data-t="2007">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2008" data-t="2008">one of the you know, on the topic of Lowry,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2011" data-t="2011">he he he kinda segues us into this next topic, and it was a story we posted today. The CDC</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2017" data-t="2017">officially approved,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2020" data-t="2020">listening to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2021" data-t="2021">Adam</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2022">33:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2022" data-t="2022">Back in podcast interviews,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2025" data-t="2025">as an alternative to anesthesia. So if you haven't read, people are killing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2031" data-t="2031">CEOs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2032" data-t="2032">of insurance companies and threatening others, and and one of the reasons why is because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2038" data-t="2038">these insurance companies are having a hard time paying their taxes. As a result,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2043" data-t="2043">they are reducing what their coverage for</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2047">34:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2047" data-t="2047">medical care</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2049" data-t="2049">in all the ways that they can, including,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2052" data-t="2052">and there's multiple states that have,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2055" data-t="2055">cut back on, you know, they would maybe pay for anesthesia for, like, the first half of surgery, but definitely not the whole surgery.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2063" data-t="2063">So people needed cost</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2065" data-t="2065">effective alternatives</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2066">34:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2066" data-t="2066">and listening to Adam Back on a Bitcoin podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2069" data-t="2069">puts users to sleep,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2072" data-t="2072">at a safe enough rate, at a cheap enough rate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2075" data-t="2075">that they can actually avoid using anesthesia</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2078" data-t="2078">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2079" data-t="2079">this is an amazing,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2081">34:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2081" data-t="2081">this is why Jason this is why Jason Long already sell effective</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2085" data-t="2085">is that Adam Back has a company called Block Street, and it it that kind that company is kind of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2092" data-t="2092">entirely dependent. Its success and its ability to raise capital and its ability to borrow money</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2097" data-t="2097">and its ability to find talent and and employees</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2101" data-t="2101">is built on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2102" data-t="2102">the, you know, belief that Adam Backney, he might be Satoshi</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2106">35:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2106" data-t="2106">or at least was involved with Satoshi somehow.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2111" data-t="2111">But it's very difficult for him to to talk about this and to market his his business without putting everybody to sleep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2118" data-t="2118">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2119" data-t="2119">Jason Lowry wrote an entire book called Softwar and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2124" data-t="2124">it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2125" data-t="2125">kind of a romantic</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2127">35:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2127" data-t="2127">novella</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2128" data-t="2128">dedicated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2130" data-t="2130">to the beauty</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2132" data-t="2132">of the HashCash algorithm</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2134" data-t="2134">that was written by Adam Back, in his earlier CypherPot days and used to prevent people from posting NFT scams in his, in his favorite group chats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2145" data-t="2145">He kinda filtered that out by making them, you know, buy electricity before they shared a meme with a friend.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2152">35:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2152" data-t="2152">And and Jason Lowry found that, and he well, Pioton found this so beautiful that he invented Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2158" data-t="2158">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2159" data-t="2159">gave Adam Back credit for inventing Bitcoin. So now everybody thinks Adam Back is Satoshi because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2165" data-t="2165">he inspired Peter Todd,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2167" data-t="2167">and Jason Lowry is now doing that with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2170" data-t="2170">at a much larger scale. He is</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2173">36:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2173" data-t="2173">telling Adam Beck's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2175" data-t="2175">story and how brilliant he is at writing algorithms</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2178" data-t="2178">and coding,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2179" data-t="2179">C plus plus</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2181" data-t="2181">that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2182" data-t="2182">you know, he's creating</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2184">36:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2184" data-t="2184">a he's so good at it that he's gonna protect America from World War III and that's what self war is all about. Like, if you have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2191" data-t="2191">enough</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2193" data-t="2193">of Adam Back's algorithms,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2194" data-t="2194">you can basically</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2196">36:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2196" data-t="2196">control the world and and end war. Yeah. I've yet to read the book. I, got it queued up to to read.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2204">36:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2204" data-t="2204">It's on my list. And It is it is essentially yeah. It is essentially. And I think it was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2210" data-t="2210">Rob Hamilton who told me this, or maybe it was Troy Cross, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2215" data-t="2215">he said that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2217" data-t="2217">software is essentially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2219" data-t="2219">a a letter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2221" data-t="2221">to time stamping</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2222">37:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2222" data-t="2222">and for people who really just are fascinated by digital time stamps and the power of digital time stamps, that's what software is all about.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2232">37:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2232" data-t="2232">Yeah. I think there's a lot of people that were on the fence on whether</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2236" data-t="2236">they should actually read the book or not. Right? Like, Jason</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2239" data-t="2239">kinda had</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2241" data-t="2241">his heyday last cycle and then he disappeared for a little bit and then he came back and people are like, okay. Do we actually need to to read this book or not?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2252" data-t="2252">If if Kamala had won the selection,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2255" data-t="2255">it probably would have been very relevant. You know what I mean? But, you know,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2260">37:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2260" data-t="2260">Trump is getting back in. So, like, he he's the guy that that started this the Space Force. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2267" data-t="2267">Right. That's true.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2268">37:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2268" data-t="2268">He's made,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2269" data-t="2269">orange berets</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2270" data-t="2270">he made orange berets possible.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2273">37:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2273" data-t="2273">Totally.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2274" data-t="2274">Yeah, he made yeah. So he started the Space Force</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2278" data-t="2278">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2280" data-t="2280">he's kind of a Bitcoin plat.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2282" data-t="2282">He's about to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2284" data-t="2284">announce</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2285">38:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2285" data-t="2285">the Bitcoin strategic reserve</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2288" data-t="2288">And that all looks super bullish for Jason Lowry</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2292" data-t="2292">and which is part of the reason why I think he is all excited to to run these drone swarms around New Jersey. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2302" data-t="2302">like he feels emboldened. He feels like he's in a power position and that means he's gonna be on a lot of podcasts this cycle, I think.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2309">38:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2309" data-t="2309">Do you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2310" data-t="2310">worry about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2312" data-t="2312">Jason Lowry's popularity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2315" data-t="2315">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2316" data-t="2316">the fame that's probably going to go to his head. And I mean, if he's on the podcast circuit,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2323" data-t="2323">in the next year or so, there's going to be a lot</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2326">38:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2326" data-t="2326">of women in Bitcoin who are going to see you know, an orange pill man in uniform</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2332" data-t="2332">and they're gonna be throwing their attention at him. Do you worry that that will distract any? He's gonna have a huge responsibility</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2339" data-t="2339">of defending</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2342" data-t="2342">America's cold storage Bitcoin from North Korean hackers.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2346">39:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2346" data-t="2346">Yeah. I mean, that's a very serious</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2350" data-t="2350">threat vector.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2352">39:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2352" data-t="2352">Do you think that Anchor Watch</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2354" data-t="2354">is gonna try to get the, the contract to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2357" data-t="2357">it be the insurance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2359" data-t="2359">on the strategic Bitcoin reserve?</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2362">39:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2362" data-t="2362">I doubt it. I think it's all going through Coinbase.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2365" data-t="2365">Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2366" data-t="2366">Oh, that's right. So it's gonna be Brian Armstrong. So so Brian Armstrong</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2370" data-t="2370">is essentially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2371" data-t="2371">The United States,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2373">39:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2373" data-t="2373">security model. Do you think that they will keep it at Coinbase or do you think they will,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2378" data-t="2378">a, keep it at Bakkt? Because Trump's gonna buy back the, the crypto</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2383" data-t="2383">liquidity provider or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2386" data-t="2386">are they going to, you know, Trump has already said that we may annex Canada and make it, the fifty first state.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2394" data-t="2394">Do you think that that is a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2396" data-t="2396">sly roundabout way of acquiring the rights</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2400">39:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2400" data-t="2400">to cold card</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2401" data-t="2401">So, NVK cannot sue President Trump. Donald Trump's warfare is over. He's not gonna put up with warfare</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2408" data-t="2408">and then he could acquire the rights to input all America's strategic Bitcoin or zero on the cold card.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2414">40:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2414" data-t="2414">Well, I think the move to try and annex Canada</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2418" data-t="2418">is probably</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2420" data-t="2420">less about cold card and more about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2424" data-t="2424">trying to acquire all the Canadian Bitcoin podcasters because there's quite a few of them. Right?</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2429">40:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2429" data-t="2429">That's what I think is my base case. I think that there's a lot of value,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2434" data-t="2434">and Trump said he wants to make,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2437" data-t="2437">Bitcoin podcasts in America, but there are some very good Bitcoin podcasts in Canada, and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2442" data-t="2442">we need to acquire those.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2445">40:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2445" data-t="2445">The the biggest YouTube Bitcoin YouTube channel is BTC Sessions, and he's Canadian.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2451" data-t="2451">So there's that. There's the Canadian Bitcoin podcast. They the country has their own conference.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2458" data-t="2458">There's Slide Goomba.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2461">41:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2461" data-t="2461">There's the Boomer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2464" data-t="2464">Boomer.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2466">41:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2466" data-t="2466">Does Boomer have a podcast?</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2468">41:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2468" data-t="2468">No. Boomer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2470" data-t="2470">Boomer's he's a bigger fan of Podkoff, but, I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2474" data-t="2474">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2475" data-t="2475">he, he does think Lynn Alden is hot, so he, that would be really good cultural assimilation,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2481" data-t="2481">because a lot of the Canadian podcasters know that Lynn Alden is hot. Totally.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2485" data-t="2485">And</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2486">41:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2486" data-t="2486">I just realized</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2487" data-t="2487">we kill, this would kill two birds with one stone.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2490" data-t="2490">So The United States would get two things that they want</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2494" data-t="2494">most, which is they want the Canadian Bitcoin podcasters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2499" data-t="2499">and they want to tetherize</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2501" data-t="2501">Canada because Canada's</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2503">41:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2503" data-t="2503">currency is failing. They got to a 100 ks way before us. And Trump is not gonna let that happen again. Donald Trump is never gonna if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2511" data-t="2511">Donald Biden</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2512" data-t="2512">let Canada get to a 100 ks before The United States, Donald Trump is not going to let Canada get to $1,000,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2519" data-t="2519">before The United States. So he's gonna tetherize</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2523" data-t="2523">Canada before</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2525" data-t="2525">he before he pumps Bitcoin to a million.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2527">42:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2527" data-t="2527">Mhmm.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2528" data-t="2528">Yeah. That's a good point. I mean, it seems like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2530" data-t="2530">a a smart strategic move. Like, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2534" data-t="2534">you look at the places with the highest concentrations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2538" data-t="2538">of Bitcoin podcasters.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2542" data-t="2542">Bringing Canada</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2543">42:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2543" data-t="2543">under The</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2545" data-t="2545">US Empire's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2547" data-t="2547">umbrella</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2549" data-t="2549">would be really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2550" data-t="2550">kind of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2552" data-t="2552">centralizing.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2553">42:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2553" data-t="2553">It</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2554" data-t="2554">I I guess, like, one of the things that I'm looking for this cycle so, you know, we we see these videos of these Chinese,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2563" data-t="2563">influencing warehouses.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2566" data-t="2566">You know what I'm talking about? Where they they have all the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2570" data-t="2570">Yeah. Right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2573" data-t="2573">That could pose a serious threat. So I'm not sure what the US government's,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2580">43:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2580" data-t="2580">plan is to defend against</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2583" data-t="2583">that because they don't have the infrastructure</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2586" data-t="2586">that the Chinese do to be able to spin up</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2590" data-t="2590">potentially thousands of Bitcoin podcasts instantly if they want to. What do you think?</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2597">43:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2597" data-t="2597">You know, China</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2599" data-t="2599">was a very major</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2602" data-t="2602">focal point in importance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2603" data-t="2603">to Bitcoin, especially the Bitcoin price and to the control of Tether.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2608" data-t="2608">In, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2610" data-t="2610">know, the 2017</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2611">43:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2611" data-t="2611">cycle up until, you know, 2021</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2614" data-t="2614">and they still</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2616" data-t="2616">are very important,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2618" data-t="2618">you know, relatively speaking, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2620" data-t="2620">they've lost a lot of ground and they've lost a lot of influence, but most importantly,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2626" data-t="2626">for all we know,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2628">43:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2628" data-t="2628">they've lost out on a lot of Bitcoin podcasts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2631" data-t="2631">They don't have access to as many, I don't know and maybe they do. Maybe there are Bitcoin podcasts in China that we can't, you know, listen to or maybe they're considering them differently.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2641" data-t="2641">However,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2642" data-t="2642">I think that there's more in The United States, more hours</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2645" data-t="2645">and they're not hearing them. How do they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2649" data-t="2649">match up? How can they spin up a Bitcoin podcast in The United States or, you know, millions of them</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2655">44:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2655" data-t="2655">and people would not know that this is way behind. Like they're these these guys have not listened to enough hours of Bitcoin podcast. They don't know what they're talking about. Well, if there's one thing I know about Chinese people is they oftentimes</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2669">44:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2669" data-t="2669">work significantly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2670" data-t="2670">harder than, you know, Western,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2673" data-t="2673">folks. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2676" data-t="2676">if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2677" data-t="2677">and this is something like, why is it so important,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2682" data-t="2682">to listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts a week? Is because there's a Chinese person out there that's willing to listen to eighty hours</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2690">44:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2690" data-t="2690">of Bitcoin podcasts a week. And they haven't started yet,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2694" data-t="2694">but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2696" data-t="2696">you know, just because you might have the lead</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2700" data-t="2700">in hours listened right now doesn't mean that there's not somebody,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2704" data-t="2704">you know, trying to catch you.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2706">45:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2706" data-t="2706">Right. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2709" data-t="2709">that that that raises a really important point.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2714" data-t="2714">Do you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2715" data-t="2715">Donald Trump has,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2717" data-t="2717">you know, he's he's promised to put a lot of tariffs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2720" data-t="2720">on China.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2722">45:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2722" data-t="2722">And if if Donald Trump</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2725" data-t="2725">put</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2726" data-t="2726">tariffs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2728" data-t="2728">on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2729" data-t="2729">Bitcoin podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2730" data-t="2730">and</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2732">45:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2732" data-t="2732">mining,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2733" data-t="2733">for example,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2734" data-t="2734">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2735" data-t="2735">China</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2736" data-t="2736">started</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2737" data-t="2737">listening to their own Bitcoin podcasts and they started listening to eighty hours a week on 1.5 speed.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2743">45:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2743" data-t="2743">You know, that would probably show you hash rate is correlated to hours that Bitcoin podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2749" data-t="2749">consume.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2750" data-t="2750">If China</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2751" data-t="2751">started to lap us and double and triple our efforts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2755" data-t="2755">they could potentially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2757" data-t="2757">grow the hash rate in their favor and grow the hours listed. I mean, there's billions of Chinese people.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2763">46:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2763" data-t="2763">If they're listening to eighty hours a week, they're gonna outnumber us. Yeah. It's gonna be interesting. I mean, like, all the podcasting gear</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2770">46:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2770" data-t="2770">is made in China, right,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2772" data-t="2772">As well as all the the Bitcoin miners.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2777" data-t="2777">So they're they're really the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2780" data-t="2780">they're sitting on all the infrastructure.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2785" data-t="2785">So it could be really problematic. Like, you know, we if we go into a bull market</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2789" data-t="2789">and Americans cannot buy podcasting gear,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2794">46:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2794" data-t="2794">because the Chinese</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2795" data-t="2795">choose to, you know, retaliate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2798" data-t="2798">to Trump's tariffs on podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2802" data-t="2802">that could be pretty detrimental.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2805">46:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2805" data-t="2805">I mean, think about it this way.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2808" data-t="2808">I think they've already started</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2810" data-t="2810">attacking.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2811" data-t="2811">If they haven't,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2813" data-t="2813">I haven't seen any evidence yet of them attacking Bitcoin podcast equipment,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2817" data-t="2817">but I have seen them going after Bitcoin podcast listener equipment.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2822">47:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2822" data-t="2822">They are blowing up</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2824" data-t="2824">AirPods</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2825" data-t="2825">every time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2826" data-t="2826">Sly Goomba listens to Bitcoin podcasts. His</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2830" data-t="2830">his his AirPods break and he can't listen to them anymore, and he has to go out and he has to buy new</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2836" data-t="2836">headphones every time he wants to listen to Bitcoin podcasts.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2839">47:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2839" data-t="2839">I think the Chinese are sabotaging it. They don't they're trying to make it harder and more expensive for you to listen to Bitcoin podcasts.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2846">47:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2846" data-t="2846">Totally.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2847" data-t="2847">Like, I I almost think that we need to set up a fund</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2851" data-t="2851">essentially, to get people like Goomba</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2854" data-t="2854">the the proper equipment to listen to podcasts. Like, it it's almost like a charity. Like, you know, we could,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2861" data-t="2861">imagine,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2862" data-t="2862">like,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2863">47:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2863" data-t="2863">if we took a portion of the podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2865" data-t="2865">or the fountain boost,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2868" data-t="2868">and it's, like, kinda like when you go to a grocery store where they're, like, round up a dollar</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2874" data-t="2874">to donate to, like, this kid that can't afford food, and you you click no.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2880" data-t="2880">But in this case, it's actually, like, a compelling argument,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2885" data-t="2885">which is</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2886">48:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2886" data-t="2886">instead of, like, feeding hungry kids, you're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2892" data-t="2892">essentially, getting the proper equipment</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2895" data-t="2895">to feed hungry minds.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2898">48:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2898" data-t="2898">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2899" data-t="2899">You know, something I've noticed,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2901" data-t="2901">and maybe we should do</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2904" data-t="2904">a very highly credentialed research analysis report on this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2908" data-t="2908">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2909" data-t="2909">it's hard for me to find an exception.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2912">48:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2912" data-t="2912">Countries</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2913" data-t="2913">that are on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2915" data-t="2915">the USDT</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2916" data-t="2916">standard</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2918" data-t="2918">have or correlated with having access</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2921" data-t="2921">to Bitcoin podcasts.</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2923">48:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2923" data-t="2923">If you live in a country with on the USDT</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2925" data-t="2925">Tether standard,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2927" data-t="2927">you are more likely to have access to the Bitcoin podcast hours that you need to succeed in life and to be able to afford your taxes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2934" data-t="2934">So it seems like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2936" data-t="2936">Donald Trump understands this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2939" data-t="2939">whether intuitively or not</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2941">49:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2941" data-t="2941">and is trying to spread</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2944" data-t="2944">the USDT standard across the globe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2947" data-t="2947">to give</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2948" data-t="2948">people in the global South, to give people in developing nations and western industrialized nations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2954" data-t="2954">access to the Bitcoin podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2956" data-t="2956">hours that they need to fix their, you know,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2960">49:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2960" data-t="2960">to fix their countries. For sure. China does not have that right now. So they are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2964" data-t="2964">right now behind,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2966" data-t="2966">but they could catch up quickly.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2968">49:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2968" data-t="2968">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2970" data-t="2970">Well, I I will say the The US definitely has first mover advantage here. Absolutely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2977" data-t="2977">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2978" data-t="2978">before we get into the found booths,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2981" data-t="2981">did you wanna talk about the Bugles?</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2984">49:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2984" data-t="2984">Oh, yeah. Of course.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2985" data-t="2985">If you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2987" data-t="2987">if you haven't seen or you haven't heard about the bugles, you can go to our Twitter page at bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2994" data-t="2994">underscore bugle</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2996" data-t="2996">and you can see the pinched tweet.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2998" data-t="2998">The bugles</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2999">49:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2999" data-t="2999">was a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3000" data-t="3000">it is long overdue</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3003" data-t="3003">that, Bitcoin podcasts and Bitcoin podcasters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3006" data-t="3006">are recognized</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3008" data-t="3008">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3009" data-t="3009">celebrated</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3010">50:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3010" data-t="3010">for the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3012" data-t="3012">important content that they create. It's the most important content being created in the world right now. We're just talking about how important they are. Countries may be going to war, at least trade wars,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3023" data-t="3023">to proliferate and protect</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3025" data-t="3025">Bitcoin podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3027" data-t="3027">And, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3030" data-t="3030">the CIA</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3032">50:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3032" data-t="3032">was able to gain I mean, it was so movies, cinema, film, Hollywood was so important</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3037" data-t="3037">for the last generation. It shaped</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3041" data-t="3041">culture around the world. It shaped attitudes about democracy around the world, and the CIA knew that, and they got that stuff everywhere.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3049" data-t="3049">And one of the ways that they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3052" data-t="3052">reinforced its value</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3053" data-t="3053">was to create an awards show called the, the Academy Awards. And they would give Oscar trophies to the best actors and the best movies and the best, you know, the CIA's most productive and most talented employees would get the recognition they deserved</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3068">51:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3068" data-t="3068">for the content they created. That was really, you know, it was, it was shaping policy around the world and culture around the world. And we need to do that for Bitcoin podcasters because we are the next, we are the Vanguard. We are the Avant garde. We are the, we are the noobers, the influencers of history,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3087" data-t="3087">and we need to recognize</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3089" data-t="3089">the Bitcoin podcasters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3091" data-t="3091">who we're separating this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3093" data-t="3093">this culture from state</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3095" data-t="3095">It's no longer the CIA who's in control</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3098">51:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3098" data-t="3098">of the world economy and culture. It is Bitcoin podcasters and Bitcoiners in a decentralized fashion, and we need to reward and record. So we're gonna have a show it's called the Butils. It's going to be live streamed in January. There's going to be real trophies. It's going to be real nominations, real winners. It's going to be a real production. It's going to be awesome. And it's going to be the best Bitcoin podcast award show ever.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3123" data-t="3123">And we're the perfect people to do it because we are the only credentialed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3128" data-t="3128">journalists in Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3129" data-t="3129">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3130" data-t="3130">if you are going to recognize</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3133" data-t="3133">the best Bitcoin podcast or the best Bitcoin podcaster, the most important</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3138">52:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3138" data-t="3138">category in the world,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3140" data-t="3140">it's gotta be from somebody with credentials</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3142" data-t="3142">that makes that decision and tells you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3145" data-t="3145">who which podcast is the most valuable.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3147" data-t="3147">And that's what we're gonna do. We hope you tune it and you should check it out. If you wanna if you're a Bitcoin podcaster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3154" data-t="3154">or a Bitcoin podcast listener</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3156">52:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3156" data-t="3156">who wants to contribute to this and be a part of this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3159" data-t="3159">historical</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3161" data-t="3161">orange peeling event,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3163" data-t="3163">reach out to us</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3166" data-t="3166">wherever</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3167" data-t="3167">you communicate with us on the intellectual silk road</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3171">52:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3171" data-t="3171">and, let us know how you would like to get involved because we're, this is going to be a, open source, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3178" data-t="3178">it's going to be open source, like the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3180" data-t="3180">cold card.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3182" data-t="3182">Ultimately</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3183" data-t="3183">I get to make the decisions because, you know, or we get to make the decisions because we're the founders, but you can definitely be, you can definitely review and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3192" data-t="3192">give your opinions.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3195">53:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3195" data-t="3195">Yeah. I mean, seeing as Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3198" data-t="3198">has won, it's important for Bitcoin podcasters to pat themselves on the back. And so I think this is just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3206" data-t="3206">an opportunity to do that. Like, there there's not enough</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3209" data-t="3209">credit that we give ourselves</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3212" data-t="3212">for the role that we've played in shaping human history. And that's why this award show is so important.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3218">53:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3218" data-t="3218">Right</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3219" data-t="3219">It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3220" data-t="3220">easy to take for granted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3222" data-t="3222">All the hard work we do making Bitcoin podcasts and listening to Bitcoin podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3228" data-t="3228">and it's easy to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3229" data-t="3229">get so caught up in it that you've forget</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3233">53:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3233" data-t="3233">to step back and appreciate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3235" data-t="3235">how important you are and how</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3238" data-t="3238">ethical</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3239" data-t="3239">and how</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3240" data-t="3240">smart and how</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3242" data-t="3242">right for everybody else you were about the most important technology in human history</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3248">54:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3248" data-t="3248">and Bitcoin podcasters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3251" data-t="3251">don't give themselves enough credit,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3253" data-t="3253">don't talk about their wins enough,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3256" data-t="3256">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3257" data-t="3257">so they deserve it. We're going to give them credit.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3259">54:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3259" data-t="3259">Yep. I mean, the CIA has patted themselves on the back</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3264" data-t="3264">very enthusiastically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3266" data-t="3266">with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3267" data-t="3267">the Golden Globes for a while.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3270">54:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3270" data-t="3270">The Academy Awards, the Emmys, the Grammys,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3274" data-t="3274">the Golden Globes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3275" data-t="3275">all of those.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3278" data-t="3278">If the CIA gets five or six or seven</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3281" data-t="3281">award shows, Bitcoiners deserve one and if Bitcoiners deserve an award show,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3287" data-t="3287">they deserve it to be thrown by the bugle. I mean, who else would throw it?</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3291">54:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3291" data-t="3291">Exactly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3292" data-t="3292">Odkov? Nobody's gonna watch</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3294" data-t="3294">that. Yeah.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3296">54:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3296" data-t="3296">Yeah. I'm very excited about it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3299" data-t="3299">Well, we'll keep everybody posted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3301" data-t="3301">about what's going on with that. Yeah. But like Rod said, if you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3305" data-t="3305">wanna be a part of it in some way, just reach out to us, and we'll discuss,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3310" data-t="3310">potential options.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3313" data-t="3313">Alright. Fountain boost.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3316">55:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3316" data-t="3316">Miss HoddleNet</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3317" data-t="3317">is back with the first boost for 20,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3320" data-t="3320">sats. She</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3323" data-t="3323">says,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3324" data-t="3324">sorry. Took a week off last week. Life's been crazy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3328" data-t="3328">Found a new guy who treats me right unlike Ron. Wow.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3333">55:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3333" data-t="3333">Miss Alma, I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3336" data-t="3336">I hope this is the end</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3339" data-t="3339">of our</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3340" data-t="3340">current chapter I'm sure we'll have a bull market chapter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3344" data-t="3344">but I'm happy for you I'm glad I hope this person, keeps you out of my hair</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3349" data-t="3349">I got the people's to worry</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3351">55:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3351" data-t="3351">about. Well, I think this kinda</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3354" data-t="3354">brings up an interesting concern,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3356" data-t="3356">which is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3358" data-t="3358">if this cycle is really the cycle</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3361" data-t="3361">everybody gets a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3363" data-t="3363">significant other, boyfriend or girlfriend.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3368">56:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3368" data-t="3368">How</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3370" data-t="3370">do you prevent</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3372" data-t="3372">that relationship</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3374" data-t="3374">from taking away from your ability to listen to Bitcoin podcast? Yeah. Exactly.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3379">56:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3379" data-t="3379">You want a relationship</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3382" data-t="3382">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3383" data-t="3383">is conducive</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3385" data-t="3385">to you listening to as many hours of Bitcoin podcast as possible,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3389" data-t="3389">but at least forty hours a week. And if you are in a relationship where you're arguing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3394" data-t="3394">there's drama,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3396">56:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3396" data-t="3396">fighting, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3399" data-t="3399">games,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3400" data-t="3400">those are taking away</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3402" data-t="3402">from your time of listening to Bitcoin blog test.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3405" data-t="3405">And so,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3407" data-t="3407">the more hours you have to listen, the more healthy your relationship is. Well, do you mean</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3413">56:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3413" data-t="3413">miss Halabah did not add a healthy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3417" data-t="3417">relationship. It was just, it was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3419" data-t="3419">draw.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3419">56:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" data-t="3419">Do you suggest</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3421" data-t="3421">listening to Bitcoin podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3423" data-t="3423">with your significant other?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3425" data-t="3425">Like, on Friday night for date night, you get a nice bottle of Pony Lane wine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3431" data-t="3431">from Ben Jossman.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3435" data-t="3435">You</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3436">57:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3436" data-t="3436">might play, like, Hire by Creed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3439" data-t="3439">to get in the mood, and then you listen to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3443" data-t="3443">a Lynn Alden</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3445" data-t="3445">podcast to to kinda get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3447" data-t="3447">steamy. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3450">57:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3450" data-t="3450">listen, this the kind of Bitcoin podcast that girls listen to, you know, look, you know, they they they might wanna listen to Shinobi because they think he's hot, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3459" data-t="3459">they might not necessarily like, you know, some of the more alpha based big blind podcasts like Uncoverable Misfits.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3466" data-t="3466">You don't have to listen to all of the same podcasts, but there should be a few</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3471" data-t="3471">rock solid</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3474" data-t="3474">podcasts that both of you enjoy whether it's like you said, What Bitcoin Did it, but, you know, especially with Lynn Alden is on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3480" data-t="3480">or,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3481">58:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3481" data-t="3481">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3483" data-t="3483">some other one. It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3484" data-t="3484">trying to have at least one that you listen to together every week and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3488" data-t="3488">you know, when you come home from, from work every day,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3492" data-t="3492">you know, use,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3493" data-t="3493">use the latest news from Dennis Porter and Dennis Porter's latest announcements to, you know, kind of discuss those and, Hey, did you see what Dennis Porter,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3501">58:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3501" data-t="3501">reported about Texas? Or did you do what happened on spaces? And you can kind of use that to get on the same page and come stay in sync. But you don't have to, you know, you can, you can have your own podcast and you should definitely listen to something</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3513" data-t="3513">together.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3514" data-t="3514">Oh, the family that listens to Bitcoin podcast together stays together, I think is probably a way to sum it up.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3520">58:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3520" data-t="3520">Well, thanks for the boost. I mean, good luck with your relationship. I I don't think getting in a relationship is an excuse not to listen to podcasts, miss Huddlenut. That's a pretty shitty excuse to me.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3530" data-t="3530">Yeah. But glad you're back.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3533">58:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3533" data-t="3533">Yeah. And don't please don't be like Haley or Eric. This is me, Haley.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3537" data-t="3537">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3538" data-t="3538">being someone who may arrow guy and stop listening to Bitcoin podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3541" data-t="3541">Really hate to see waste your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3544" data-t="3544">life that way. But anyways,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3546" data-t="3546">thank you. Like like you said, next one is from Open Mic 7707</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3551">59:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3551" data-t="3551">SaaS.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3552" data-t="3552">Google Wild High Club check-in, hitting forty hours from 30,000 feet by listening to Bitcoin pod in flight to Bitcoin events.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3560" data-t="3560">Hell, yeah, dude. That is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3562" data-t="3562">that is how you know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3565" data-t="3565">that's how you know you made it. You listen to Bitcoin podcast. You're traveling through time and space</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3571" data-t="3571">to different Bitcoin nodes,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3573">59:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3573" data-t="3573">you know, on the map. That's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3576" data-t="3576">that is what</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3578" data-t="3578">that's that's a medium of a low time preference.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3581">59:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3581" data-t="3581">Well, I think Open</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3582" data-t="3582">Mic is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3584" data-t="3584">when he sent that boost was traveling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3586" data-t="3586">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3587" data-t="3587">is it Austin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3589" data-t="3589">where this fountain event's happening with Toonster? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The big,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3593">59:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3593" data-t="3593">the big event there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3595" data-t="3595">One it's, like, South by Southwest or something, but, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3598" data-t="3598">at Sats by Southwest.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3601">1:00:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3601" data-t="3601">Yeah. The one where I think Ainsley Costello.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3604" data-t="3604">Oh,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3605" data-t="3605">yeah. Performing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3608" data-t="3608">Adam Curry, I think is there too.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3611" data-t="3611">Yeah, it's like a live music event. So I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3615" data-t="3615">how fucking cool is it to be able to listen to the Beagle Weekly,</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3621">1:00:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3621" data-t="3621">participate in the value for value economy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3624" data-t="3624">while also</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3625" data-t="3625">going to build</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3627" data-t="3627">the value for value music economy? I would give I would give an open mic a That sounds way better than going to a Diddy party to be in the Grammy Awards</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3637">1:00:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3637" data-t="3637">in, Fiat music. That's what I would say.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3641" data-t="3641">I would also,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3643" data-t="3643">when you're there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3645" data-t="3645">in Austin, if you see Oscar</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3647" data-t="3647">or any of the decision makers at Fountain,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3649" data-t="3649">you should tell them that people are saying</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3652">1:00:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3652" data-t="3652">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3653" data-t="3653">that Fountain should livestream</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3655" data-t="3655">the the bugles.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3656" data-t="3656">So, you know, that's what people are saying. I just, you know, hope they hear it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3661" data-t="3661">I'd be here. Love love fountain.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3664">1:01:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3664" data-t="3664">But South SaaS by Southwest looks do. It'd be very cool to livestream the beagle's on fountain.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3670" data-t="3670">I imagine we're probably gonna be using Zap. Stream.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3674" data-t="3674">Might as well use Tunester</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3676" data-t="3676">as well Yeah. If if, open mic's open to it. I know it's not like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3681" data-t="3681">necessarily a live music performance, but we're discussing having some live music performances.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3687">1:01:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3687" data-t="3687">Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3690" data-t="3690">I'm looking and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3691" data-t="3691">says by myself,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3692" data-t="3692">it's live streaming right now for Austin, Texas. So it's going on. So tomorrow,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3698" data-t="3698">if you hear this and you're interested, you should go, the fountain,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3702" data-t="3702">you know, social media channels or go on the app and</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3705">1:01:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3705" data-t="3705">there's probably some replays here or some videos, but, it looks pretty cool. Looks pretty it looks like it's it looks better than a Bitcoin magazine livestream. I'll tell you that. Alright. Yeah. Good. Definitely. Yeah. Better than</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3716">1:01:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3716" data-t="3716">a PodConf</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3718" data-t="3718">Yeah. Live stream picture.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3722" data-t="3722">Well, thank you for the boost, open mic.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3725" data-t="3725">I love</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3726" data-t="3726">hearing about the Beagle Mile Hut Club. That's super dope.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3731" data-t="3731">Next boost is from our good friend, We All Eat, for 5,421</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3736">1:02:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3736" data-t="3736">sats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3737" data-t="3737">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3738" data-t="3738">they say,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3739" data-t="3739">Beagle influences me so much. I can't think for myself and absolutely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3744" data-t="3744">need Dickie and Roddy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3746" data-t="3746">to tell me what I need to do. Lin Alden is hot.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3750">1:02:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3750" data-t="3750">We must comply, and I love first responders. Thank you for your sacrifice.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3755">1:02:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3755" data-t="3755">Yeah. At the, at the beginning of the show, we're talking about why Jason Lowry</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3761" data-t="3761">chose New Jersey</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3762" data-t="3762">to fly the drones.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3763" data-t="3763">It's because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3764" data-t="3764">you know, it is because of people like We All Eat. Like that season, New Jersey. So that's why they chose that place. I don't know if We All Eat's in New Jersey. That's interesting. No, I'm not saying he's in New Jersey. Maybe he is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3776" data-t="3776">I was just saying, that's what people in New Jersey are kind of like. It's like that's the kind of fountain boost they leave.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3783">1:03:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3783" data-t="3783">Well, I'm excited. I think we're gonna have, We All Eat on the Wednesday show here pretty soon. I'm</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3791" data-t="3791">excited for that one.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3792">1:03:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3792" data-t="3792">Yeah, I'm sure. He is, yeah, he's apparently</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3796" data-t="3796">he really has a crush on Michelle weekly. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3799" data-t="3799">he's gonna hopefully be able to send this to her and hopefully she likes it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3804" data-t="3804">or something like that. I can't remember.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3806">1:03:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3806" data-t="3806">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3807" data-t="3807">This girl on spaces got him trapped.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3810">1:03:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3810" data-t="3810">Yeah. Girls on spaces, there's a whole song about it. Can you can you sing a little bit of it? She's got a cold car. She's got a cold car, block clock, and hates KYC. And the badge on her blouse means she's not right for me. Oh, yeah. When they did was finally up and the truth was revealed, she was just another fed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3828" data-t="3828">and Chet was the yield. Oh, yeah.</span></span></p>
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+<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3833">1:03:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3833" data-t="3833">Well, cool.</span></span></p>
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