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They have tanks and their bombs and their money.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-14" data-t="14">The game is rigged, so what do you do?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-17" data-t="17">A feeling of depression grows, it's not funny. Here we go on suicide mountain.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-24" data-t="24">Debating whether living is worth the fight. Knowing how the world works is quite the burden.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-31" data-t="31">Continuing</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-32">0:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-32" data-t="32">forward is uncertain.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-34" data-t="34">When I was a child, I was taught I was free.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-38" data-t="38">Stuck in a classroom,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-39" data-t="39">bending the knee. The teacher said comply and all will be good.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-45" data-t="45">A human soul crushed and misunderstood,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-48" data-t="48">but the human spirit can only take so much</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-51">0:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-51" data-t="51">before you snap and decide to fight. On suicide</span> <span class="cue" id="t-55" data-t="55">mount, You weigh your options. Dark night of the soul causes a fire to ignite.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-62" data-t="62">Taking the red pill is easier said than done. Seeing the world as it is is not that fun, but there is a responsibility</span> <span class="cue" id="t-71" data-t="71">to do the right thing. Let go of the fantasies to which you cling. The CIA</span> <span class="cue" id="t-77" data-t="77">psy ops have power indeed, but you have power to reject their monopoly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-83" data-t="83">Channel your anger and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-97">1:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-97" data-t="97">battle of perception, not flesh and blood. There are other forces at work besides the dark flood.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-103" data-t="103">When the night gets darkest and spooks are closing in, the cypherpunk finds a way to win. When it seems like the whole world has come here, mister Gay,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-113" data-t="113">the human spirit will endure to find a way. So come back down on Suicide Mountain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-119" data-t="119">and show them anger by ghosting us a mountain.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-123" data-t="123">Support the credentialed journalists at</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-158">2:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-158" data-t="158">Never underestimate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-160" data-t="160">those with the brain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-161" data-t="161">making decisions because they are safe.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-165" data-t="165">Defeat only comes when people give in. Fortify your mind and we will win.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-171" data-t="171">Yes. Times are hard and will likely get darker, but this presents an opportunity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-177" data-t="177">to be stronger. We will create good times for future generations.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-182">3:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-182" data-t="182">Continuing to fight has serious implications,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-185" data-t="185">so come back down for suicide</span> <span class="cue" id="t-187" data-t="187">mountain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-188" data-t="188">and support the intellectual silicone road on top. We will break hard cops, control of the narrative.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-195" data-t="195">This is the only path forward. It's an imperative.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-232">3:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-232" data-t="232">Have you ever asked yourself,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-234" data-t="234">what if my life is a TV show? Am I an unwitting protagonist in a story about my life like Jim Carrey in The Truman Show?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-243" data-t="243">Did you ever wonder if maybe the world revolves around you?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-247" data-t="247">Well, it doesn't.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-250" data-t="250">Your life is not a TV show.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-253" data-t="253">But that doesn't mean there isn't anyone watching.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-256">4:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-256" data-t="256">Banks, payment apps,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-258" data-t="258">Mobile carriers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-260" data-t="260">ISPs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-261" data-t="261">Your custodial lightning wallet</span> <span class="cue" id="t-264" data-t="264">Even your weather app</span> <span class="cue" id="t-265" data-t="265">They're all gathering data on you And watching every move you make</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-269">4:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-269" data-t="269">Some of them even know what decisions you will make before you do But where does that data go and what are they doing with it?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-276" data-t="276">Check out The Rage</span> <span class="cue" id="t-278" data-t="278">The Rage is an independent publication Covering financial surveillance And a digital phenopticon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-284" data-t="284">Being constructed by elite pedophile technocrats in governments and private sectors across the globe. Get all the high stakes reporting from Lola Leets as well as contributors,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-296" data-t="296">and David Morris at therage.co.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-299" data-t="299">And make sure to follow them on Twitter at the rage tech.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-307">5:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kaylee Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-307" data-t="307">This is your producer, Kaylee.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-309" data-t="309">Strap in for a banger of a show as Rod and Dick discuss the most important news happening in the world.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-315" data-t="315">This is the Bugle Weekly, and you are entering the intellectual Silk Road.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-324">5:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-324" data-t="324">And we're recording.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-327" data-t="327">Welcome to the Beagle Weekly podcast. This is your cohost, Rich Greaser.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-331" data-t="331">How you doing,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-332">5:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-332" data-t="332">Ron? Doing great.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-335" data-t="335">It's been a crazy week. Just every week, the past two or three weeks, the past month</span> <span class="cue" id="t-340" data-t="340">has been a crazy week, but this one was no different. Yeah. I mean, as we're recording, we were just talking about,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-346" data-t="346">apparently Peter Schiff's a Bitcoiner now. Yeah. He's hanging out with David Bailey.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-352" data-t="352">I may I guess David Orangebill,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-354" data-t="354">David Orangebill, Peter Schiff.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-357">5:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-357" data-t="357">I didn't think it was gonna happen. I thought,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-359" data-t="359">I thought Peter Schiff would probably be the last person with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-363" data-t="363">Bitcoin derangement syndrome, but I don't know. It's exciting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-368" data-t="368">Peter Schiff is a,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-369" data-t="369">is a very active and influential,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-373">6:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-373" data-t="373">content creator. So having him on the Bitcoin team is really gonna be valuable. What what does that say about David Bailey? So he turned he turned Peter Schiff into a pleb and he turned the former president Donald Trump into a pleb.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-386" data-t="386">I mean, is there anybody else on earth that he can't turn into a pleb?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-391">6:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-391" data-t="391">Yeah, I I think that's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-394" data-t="394">right now, there's really no question that the most valuable orange pillars in the world,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-401" data-t="401">it's kind of a debate between David Bailey and Dennis Porter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-406" data-t="406">I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-407" data-t="407">Dennis Porter clearly has</span> <span class="cue" id="t-410" data-t="410">the numbers.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-411">6:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-411" data-t="411">He's orange pilled more people.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-413" data-t="413">But I think the question comes in,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-416" data-t="416">has David orange pilled such important people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-420" data-t="420">that it makes up for it and like he should still be kind of in that conversation?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-424">7:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-424" data-t="424">Yeah, I think this brings up an important discussion of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-429" data-t="429">just general body count in general because I feel like certain bodies have higher weights to them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-435" data-t="435">So you could be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-438" data-t="438">a guy that has like slept with a thousand women.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-442" data-t="442">But if, the women you're sleeping with are all landmines and grenades,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-447" data-t="447">you know, what what does it really matter if you're, like, an individual that, you know, sleeps with, like, a handful of supermodels, but they're, like, the top of the top? Yeah. Just to interject real quick, sleeping with me once is like sleeping with at least 1,000 landmines. Right. Right. Yeah. Think about maybe this is a better way that's, more,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-466">7:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-466" data-t="466">practical to way to think about it is if your girlfriend or your wife,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-471" data-t="471">if the guy that she</span> <span class="cue" id="t-473" data-t="473">dated before you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-475" data-t="475">was like a six foot five</span> <span class="cue" id="t-478" data-t="478">like football player size dude who orange killed like 50 people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-482" data-t="482">like that's gonna be</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-484">8:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-484" data-t="484">a lot different than, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-488" data-t="488">somebody who's, you know, five foot eight</span> <span class="cue" id="t-490" data-t="490">kind of an orange cell, like the amount of the guy, you, somebody, somebody who's really good at orange pilling. It's, it's almost like, like a, like a, they're casting a spell. It's like the vampires in all the shows, like every person that they buy and that they turn it's like, they kind of have this special power over them. And that's kind of like when you orange pill somebody, like from, for the rest of their life, they will be coming to you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-513" data-t="513">to to seek answers like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-515" data-t="515">how do I which cold storage wallet do I buy?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-519" data-t="519">Which node do I get? Should I get a lightning channel?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-523">8:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-523" data-t="523">Should I use Hash App or should I buy Bitcoin from River or from Bisk?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-528" data-t="528">Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-529" data-t="529">it's these have a lot</span> <span class="cue" id="t-532" data-t="532">of impact on their life, a lot of influence and a lot of charisma.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-537" data-t="537">And that's pretty intimidating if some, like, big six foot five dude with all that influence and orange building under his belt,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-544">9:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-544" data-t="544">it'd be intimidating to have for your wife's ex ex boyfriend. I mean, who would you who would you say is more influential right now between Dennis and David? I think this I mean, honestly,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-555">9:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-555" data-t="555">I think it's too close</span> <span class="cue" id="t-557" data-t="557">to call and I think that the only way we could really probably get a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-563" data-t="563">decent</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-565">9:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-565" data-t="565">dig on that is, if it was on Poly Market. How do we do you know how easy it is to set bets</span> <span class="cue" id="t-571" data-t="571">and create markets like that on on Poly Market? Because maybe that's something we should get into. I personally doubt,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-577">9:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-577" data-t="577">but I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-579" data-t="579">from what I am aware of, it's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-583" data-t="583">it's a pretty highly regulated,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-585" data-t="585">highly compliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-587" data-t="587">platform. So it should be straightforward and it should be pretty,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-592" data-t="592">pretty reliable. If you're interested in checking that out, maybe we could go over that. Maybe we'll post the instructions. Yeah. I think,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-598">9:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-598" data-t="598">the more</span> <span class="cue" id="t-600" data-t="600">gambling markets on on important topics like this, like who's the most influential orange color</span> <span class="cue" id="t-606" data-t="606">out there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-607" data-t="607">Like, that that's the type of shit that matters. You know what I mean?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-611" data-t="611">And most of the stuff that people are focusing on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-615" data-t="615">employee market doesn't matter.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-617">10:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-617" data-t="617">Right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-618" data-t="618">Yeah. This is a really important thing because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-621" data-t="621">when you are kind of looking for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-624" data-t="624">guidance or looking for a framework or a blueprint</span> <span class="cue" id="t-628" data-t="628">for how you should approach orange pilling the people in your life,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-633" data-t="633">you have to, you kind of, it's like Preston Pysh's,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-636">10:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-636" data-t="636">podcast. We study billionaires.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-638" data-t="638">They study billionaires to learn how to be good investors and value investors. They could buy stocks with dividends and things like that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-645" data-t="645">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-646" data-t="646">if you're looking to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-648" data-t="648">how can you be the most successful entrepreneur, you're going to study Dennis Porter or David Bailey</span> <span class="cue" id="t-653" data-t="653">and you're gonna learn from the strategies, the</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-656">10:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-656" data-t="656">philosophy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-657" data-t="657">the values,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-658" data-t="658">the approach that those guys have.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-661" data-t="661">And if you emulate those, you know, you kind of tweak it to your skills</span> <span class="cue" id="t-666" data-t="666">and that's how you can become</span> <span class="cue" id="t-669" data-t="669">a really successful orange pillar.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-671">11:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-671" data-t="671">So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-672" data-t="672">knowing which passion to invest that time in,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-676" data-t="676">it would be nice to have a little bit more signal in that area.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-681">11:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-681" data-t="681">I'm just amazed that Samsung Mau isn't in the conversation right now. Like, what what has he been doing? Has he been on vacation? Like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-690">11:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-690" data-t="690">you know, well Honestly, I think that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-693" data-t="693">maybe we're a little biased</span> <span class="cue" id="t-694" data-t="694">to our location.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-696" data-t="696">Most of the important orange billing is going on right now in The United States, especially in the halls of Congress and in state capitals.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-705" data-t="705">But there's still billions of people in the rest of the world who,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-710" data-t="710">you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-712">11:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-712" data-t="712">they they also use Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-714" data-t="714">it matters to them and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-716" data-t="716">that's really been more of Samson's focus. He's kind of let Dennis and David duke it out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-722" data-t="722">domestically</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-723">12:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-723" data-t="723">And he's gonna orange pill the rest of the world. I just don't, I don't think any of it counts unless you're tweeting about it. If you're not tweeting selfies,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-731">12:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-731" data-t="731">But accountability, right? Like that's why you post pictures of yourself with your shirt off after you've been eating the carnivore diet,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-738" data-t="738">and, and doing devotes every day,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-741" data-t="741">you're inspiring</span> <span class="cue" id="t-742" data-t="742">other people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-744" data-t="744">to, to kind of follow your path the way that you were inspired. So if you are inspired by a great orange pillar and you have since become a great orange pillar yourself by following that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-754" data-t="754">methodology,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-755">12:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-755" data-t="755">it's your duty to share that with the plants.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-758">12:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-758" data-t="758">So, yeah, I mean, you need to document your proof of work because unfortunately</span> <span class="cue" id="t-763" data-t="763">So like, when you're,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-766" data-t="766">when you're deploying Hashrate,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-768" data-t="768">for example,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-770" data-t="770">it's broadcasted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-772" data-t="772">across the network. And so there's kind of like a the ability</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-777">12:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-777" data-t="777">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-778" data-t="778">essentially deduce, like, how much hash rate there is total. And when you use a pool like Ocean</span> <span class="cue" id="t-783" data-t="783">pool,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-784" data-t="784">you know, you can you can point to, like, the hash rate and how much you're dedicating to it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-791" data-t="791">publicly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-792" data-t="792">Whereas,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-794">13:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-794" data-t="794">when you're going and doing things real life, you you don't have a great way to broadcast it to the world so that they can see what's going on.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-801" data-t="801">And that's what</span> <span class="cue" id="t-804" data-t="804">the vehicle of social media essentially is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-807" data-t="807">It's like people think social media is about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-810" data-t="810">going on there and discussing sports ball and sharing memes, but really it's the place to document your proof of work of what you're doing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-817" data-t="817">in your life. And, like, that's why we post our podcast on there</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-821">13:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-821" data-t="821">is to document our proof of work because if we didn't do that, it wouldn't be documented anywhere. Right. Exactly. It's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-829">13:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-829" data-t="829">it it is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-830" data-t="830">it's why it's important to use Bitcoin because using a transaction, whatever, the transaction that makes it into a block that you control the keys to those GTXOs and you signed it and you are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-844" data-t="844">everything you do on chain is is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-847" data-t="847">it's a reflection of your past decisions.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-849" data-t="849">So if you just have Bitcoin, you don't use it, then you are you are not documenting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-854" data-t="854">your proof of work. You're kind of saying to all the people in the future who are looking back</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-860">14:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-860" data-t="860">looking back at Bitcoin's history</span> <span class="cue" id="t-862" data-t="862">and like imagine imagine a guy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-865" data-t="865">spends his whole life, he's a pleb, he spends his whole life stack in DCA and it's kind of a stack chain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-873" data-t="873">He's he's posting his proof of work on the timeline of all the screenshots of of the smash buys that he does. So the, the IRS can see it. Everybody can see it. It is an error there and he spends his whole life and he saves up 1.85</span> <span class="cue" id="t-888" data-t="888">Bitcoin and he never spends it except</span> <span class="cue" id="t-890" data-t="890">to consolidate these ETXOs because he's, you know, he's in spaces and morning.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-895">14:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-895" data-t="895">He's looking at Bitcoin Twitter. He knows</span> <span class="cue" id="t-897" data-t="897">to do the right things</span> <span class="cue" id="t-899" data-t="899">and he dies and he's never used it or spent it or gained any benefit from using it his entire life.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-908" data-t="908">And after a while, it becomes apparent that he didn't have any goods or he didn't have an orange pilled heir</span> <span class="cue" id="t-915" data-t="915">to carry on his on chain identity,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-918" data-t="918">his proof of work, his legacy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-920">15:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-920" data-t="920">And like, I just don't know. I just think that it would, you would look back on that person and you'd be like, wow, you were so early to Bitcoin. You actually almost got 2 Bitcoin to yourself. You worked your whole life for that and you never got any benefit from it. You never passed it on. You never demonstrated any proof of work. You may have never even learned how to use it. You might have been one of those people that everybody called a,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-941" data-t="941">you know, a Castellio cock, which we don't know what that word means, but we just, as historians, we can tell that it was a negative thing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-948" data-t="948">And I don't know, like if that's, if that's how you wanna be seen in history</span> <span class="cue" id="t-951" data-t="951">with your own trade identity,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-954" data-t="954">it's, it's something to think about. The way you use Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-957" data-t="957">that is,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-958">15:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-958" data-t="958">that is your proof of work for the rest of the future</span> <span class="cue" id="t-962" data-t="962">of Bitcoin and blockchain for people to study that. Do you think it should be a standard</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-968">16:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-968" data-t="968">for people to essentially set a time lock so that their funds get moved after a certain amount of time to kind of prevent that issue of people dying</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-976">16:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-976" data-t="976">without, what's going on? Right. Like you don't. Yeah. It's like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-980" data-t="980">listen, everybody knows that like I'm running the holidays, especially you go on and you, you, you cheat on your carb or diet and you eat a bunch of seed oils</span> <span class="cue" id="t-988" data-t="988">and you know, you go out the next day and you get sunburned, just walking to get your mail. Cause you're such a fucking, the seed oils are just ruining your insides.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-996" data-t="996">You're not gonna notice to pay share that on Twitter. Like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-999" data-t="999">you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1000" data-t="1000">you don't, you can kind of keep up your,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1003">16:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1003" data-t="1003">your identity, your, as, as an alpha male, you don't have to post all of that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1008" data-t="1008">And you could do that too on chain where you could use a hash lock to,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1012">16:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1012" data-t="1012">to make people think that you were more based than you really were. Well, I think it was just that, you know, there's this problem, which is the most selfish thing to do is to huddle your Bitcoin into death. Because hoarding all your Bitcoins to yourself is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1026" data-t="1026">kind of ridiculous. Like, you're you're just being you're being a freeloader. You're just being a a rent seeker, essentially. Like, you're not paying the miners any fees and Right. And you're not engaging in the peer to peer economy. They're all supporting value to value for value.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1040">17:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1040" data-t="1040">You are a, it's like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1042" data-t="1042">followers are like, are like welfare,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1045" data-t="1045">like people who get welfare,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1047" data-t="1047">welfare moms,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1048" data-t="1048">people who just kind of live and leach off the state.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1052" data-t="1052">And it's, you know, it should probably be harder to do that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1057">17:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1057" data-t="1057">Yeah. I mean, if so this is why, you know, my HODL tax or HODL tithe proposal is so interesting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1064" data-t="1064">because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1065" data-t="1065">you know, all these people that are dying with their coins,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1069" data-t="1069">They're essentially funding miners for all of eternity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1072" data-t="1072">with the HODL tax.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1075" data-t="1075">And so there's this Right. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1077">17:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1077" data-t="1077">And it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1079" data-t="1079">the miners are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1081" data-t="1081">those are like the watchmen at the gate. Those are the people who have sacrificed,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1086" data-t="1086">you know, their profits.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1089" data-t="1089">A miner, a lot of times, miners, it costs them more to get a Bitcoin than it costs you to just buy it on Coinbase,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1096" data-t="1096">But they sacrificed that</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1098">18:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1098" data-t="1098">to protect the network,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1099">18:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1099" data-t="1099">to protect the hodlers, to protect the the ordinals, to protect everything. I know I know Peter Thiel. Why did I say Peter Thiel?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1107" data-t="1107">I'm mixing up names. Fred Thiel, his brother.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1110" data-t="1110">Peter Thiel's brother. Fred Thiel, the the CEO of Marathon.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1113" data-t="1113">They're best buds.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1116" data-t="1116">Yeah. I know I know he has trouble sleeping at night because he fears for the security of the network, and that's, like, his primary,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1123" data-t="1123">concern. And, like, you know, we need we need to take care of the individuals that are securing the network. They should be flying on private jets.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1131">18:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1131" data-t="1131">They should be able to afford it. They shouldn't be, you know, ridiculed to the disgrace of going on,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1138" data-t="1138">commercial airlines because they're doing such an important job.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1142" data-t="1142">And we really, like, face this issue,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1146" data-t="1146">which is that, you know, the miners are gonna be poor unless</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1151" data-t="1151">we take strides to make them super rich and reward them for their hard work. Right, right. This</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1158">19:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1158" data-t="1158">is one of the reasons it's important. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1160" data-t="1160">like I said at the beginning, it's been a very busy, busy, crazy week. So one of the things</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1166" data-t="1166">that we gotta talk about very soon that we were supposed to talk about last week was illegal memes in The UK, in England,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1174" data-t="1174">but while we're on the topic of minors,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1177" data-t="1177">so Kamala Harris, the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1180" data-t="1180">she announced her first presidential</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1182">19:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1182" data-t="1182">campaign policy this week,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1184" data-t="1184">and it was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1185" data-t="1185">to put an end to price gouging because due inflation.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1189" data-t="1189">So what this means is if she's gonna put</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1194" data-t="1194">these limits in place to prevent price gouging, what it does,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1197" data-t="1197">and part of</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1200">19:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1200" data-t="1200">the things she's kind of selling point here</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1202" data-t="1202">is that it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1204" data-t="1204">prevents the miners</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1205" data-t="1205">from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1206" data-t="1206">price gouging us on transaction fees</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1210" data-t="1210">during like a crisis. So if Udeon</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1214">20:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1214" data-t="1214">is telling people the mid ordinals or these rings</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1217" data-t="1217">become more popular and people just start flooding the mempool and the transaction fees spike to like hundreds of SaaS per vByte,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1226" data-t="1226">well, Kamala Harris' price control plan that if she becomes president</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1230" data-t="1230">will prevent the miners from doing this. So even when there is congestion</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1236" data-t="1236">and the more and the and the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1238" data-t="1238">you</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1239">20:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1239" data-t="1239">know, competition from block space</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1241" data-t="1241">is really,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1243" data-t="1243">heating up,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1244" data-t="1244">you won't have to overpay. You'll still be able to get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1248" data-t="1248">a cheap transaction and you'll still be able to use Bitcoin peer to peer and open lightning channels.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1253" data-t="1253">But</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1254">20:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1254" data-t="1254">this could potentially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1256" data-t="1256">cause the miners to lose money.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1258" data-t="1258">And this is why we have to pay the HODL tax</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1261" data-t="1261">because these miners need this extra income, especially when fees are artificially low</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1267" data-t="1267">in the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1269" data-t="1269">you know, which is most days because of the ETF,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1274">21:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1274" data-t="1274">reducing</span> <span class="cue" data-t="1274">taxation or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1276" data-t="1276">transaction fee rates</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1278" data-t="1278">on chain. Like what do you think about that? Like device controls on the fees that you can charge as a miner? Well, I think</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1284">21:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1284" data-t="1284">the way</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1286" data-t="1286">to implement this would be essentially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1289" data-t="1289">to allow the Federal Reserve to control,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1293" data-t="1293">Bitcoin development so they can kinda arbitrarily raise and lower the block size</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1298" data-t="1298">depending</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1300" data-t="1300">on the the transaction volume</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1303">21:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1303" data-t="1303">and demand.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1305" data-t="1305">And it would allow for there to be,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1309" data-t="1309">you know, a similar mechanism</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1310" data-t="1310">as the way that they control interest rates today, but specifically around fees.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1316">21:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1316" data-t="1316">Right. So like they could, they could</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1320" data-t="1320">just flood</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1321" data-t="1321">the mempool with like empty transactions or whatever and buy up lock space</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1325" data-t="1325">when it was necessary, and then they could,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1328" data-t="1328">subsidize and and basically drive those fees down</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1332" data-t="1332">just kind of based on their monetary policy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1335">22:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1335" data-t="1335">Do you think that Tether or now that Tether is be,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1339" data-t="1339">you can transact it over Lightning,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1341" data-t="1341">via Taproot assets?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1343" data-t="1343">Do you think that that plays a role</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1346" data-t="1346">in this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1347" data-t="1347">potential solution?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1350">22:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1350" data-t="1350">I think absolutely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1351" data-t="1351">I mean, I think what we're gonna find is that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1355" data-t="1355">Bitcoin's most important use case is for facilitating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1359" data-t="1359">the transaction of dollars.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1362" data-t="1362">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1365" data-t="1365">and, you know, this is just part of, like, you know, maybe maybe some of the listeners</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1369">22:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1369" data-t="1369">are kinda confused,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1370" data-t="1370">because we're kinda</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1372" data-t="1372">taking a detour from, like, the general,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1375" data-t="1375">stance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1376" data-t="1376">that most Bitcoin podcasters have taken. But, like, we're we're gonna be having credentialed economists</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1383" data-t="1383">and people with all sorts of different credentials coming into the space</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1387">23:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1387" data-t="1387">that are gonna have very different ideas on the way that Bitcoin should work. And this is just part of, you know, the world finding out that Bitcoin is one and hyper Bitcoinization.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1397" data-t="1397">Like, there's there's trade offs. Like, you know, Dennis Porter and David Bailey</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1402" data-t="1402">are out there teaching, you know, some of the most</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1405" data-t="1405">important people, you know, what it means to be a Bitcoin plaid.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1409" data-t="1409">And now they're coming to the industry, but they have a lot of, you know, they have a different background,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1414" data-t="1414">than, you know, just like your average, plaid that got interested this in this because of the podcast</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1420">23:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1420" data-t="1420">ecosystem.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1421" data-t="1421">But Peter Schiff has a very different background than than many of us.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1426">23:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1426" data-t="1426">When I got fired from my job at Best Buy as the assistant manager of the Geek Squad for refusing to get the COVID vaccine, I was having trouble finding a rewarding new career. If you want to be successful, it's important to have a good education and the right skills.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1438" data-t="1438">Graduating from ITT Tech's cypherpunk program really changed his life and gave him a feeling of self worth. My cypherpunk education from ITT Tech helped me get a stable Twitter Spaces co hosting job and multiple invitations to be a guest on Bitcoin podcasts.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1453">24:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1453" data-t="1453">I've gained thousands of new Twitter followers. Since getting his credentials, he has become the biggest Bitcoin influencer at our local meetup, and don't forget to tell them the other thing.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1462">24:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1462" data-t="1462">Well, I'm proud to announce I'm finally launching my own Bitcoin podcast.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1466">24:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1466" data-t="1466">We are educators helping cypherpunks</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1469" data-t="1469">build a foundation for hyper Bitcoinization.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1472" data-t="1472">IATT Technical Institute.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1474" data-t="1474">Education for cypherpunks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1481" data-t="1481">Lloyd,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1482" data-t="1482">that's a good point. Like, when people realize</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1484">24:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1484" data-t="1484">how that the purpose of Bitcoin is to facilitate,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1489" data-t="1489">trade volume and transaction volume of US dollars,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1492" data-t="1492">It's a very powerful</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1494" data-t="1494">new paradigm</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1496" data-t="1496">that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1498" data-t="1498">I mean, when NMT</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1500">24:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1500" data-t="1500">people, the people who follow modern monetary theory, like, Stephanie Kelton is, she's kind of their main influencer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1509" data-t="1509">when they realize, like, how much money they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1512" data-t="1512">could</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1513" data-t="1513">really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1514" data-t="1514">circulate through that system and really kind of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1518" data-t="1518">break records for the amount of of US dollars traded. Like people are gonna be really impressed by that. And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1525">25:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1525" data-t="1525">I even saw like they have a proposal already. It's kinda like their version of project twenty twenty five.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1533" data-t="1533">And it would be to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1534" data-t="1534">to give everybody UBI,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1537" data-t="1537">but you would be able to opt in to receiving your UBI</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1541" data-t="1541">as, as like a, a top up on your like lightning liquidity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1545" data-t="1545">on your node.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1546">25:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1546" data-t="1546">So like you, they could basically install Taproot Tethers directly onto your node and you could just start boom, transacting with those, boosting your favorite podcast. Like you don't even, you don't even have to like buy anything,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1557" data-t="1557">move it from your bank account. It's just already straight in the sats. Yeah. I just think it's I I find it really exciting</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1563">26:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1563" data-t="1563">that, Dennis is currently orange peeling Kamala Harris in in their campaign.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1568" data-t="1568">And I think they're gonna bring</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1570" data-t="1570">a lot of really good ideas to this industry.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1573" data-t="1573">And, you know Did you see that spaces that the that he hosted is crypto for Arris? I listened to a little bit of it. Unfortunately, I didn't get the the</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1582">26:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1582" data-t="1582">I heard that it's a lot of signal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1585" data-t="1585">Yeah. And it's so I think there's also a misconception</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1591" data-t="1591">about everybody that in the Bitcoin space, they support Donald Trump.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1595" data-t="1595">He spoke at the conference,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1597" data-t="1597">people, they really like to make sure a lot of memes, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1601" data-t="1601">there are a lot of people</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1603">26:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1603" data-t="1603">who, I mean, one of them we talk about all the time, Terrence Yang, he is an outspoken,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1608" data-t="1608">supporter of Kamala Harris. It's like in his profile, he's like crypto for Harris like ambassador.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1617" data-t="1617">And that there's a lot more support for her than than you might see on Bitcoin Twitter. There's even the group that is now actually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1624" data-t="1624">emerging on Bitcoin Twitter, Cypherpunks for Harris, and they are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1629" data-t="1629">they are worried that Donald Trump is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1633" data-t="1633">he wants to ban dark matter. He wants to support Bitcoin, but he wants to kind of ban dark matter. He doesn't want</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1639">27:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1639" data-t="1639">Cypherpunks to be able to use Bitcoin. He wants,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1642" data-t="1642">his, he wants the government, he wants corporations, he wants Elon Musk, like his allies to be able to use Bitcoin, but not CypherPunks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1650" data-t="1650">And so crypto or CypherPunks for Arris, they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1654" data-t="1654">really trying</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1655" data-t="1655">to move with that message I don't know how it's being received, but I mean</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1660" data-t="1660">with Cypherpunks for Harris, Harris Yang and Dennis Porter, as well as the Krasenstein</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1665">27:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1665" data-t="1665">brothers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1666" data-t="1666">those guys are very, they have a lot more followers than most people in the Bitcoin space Yeah. Kind of watching all this play out has been really interesting because I feel like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1676">27:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1676" data-t="1676">you know, Dennis Porter and the Krasensteins</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1679" data-t="1679">and Terrence Yang is kind of like one wing of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1683" data-t="1683">the Avengers. Like, it's Captain America.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1686" data-t="1686">Right. And David Bailey is kinda more on the side of Iron Man.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1691" data-t="1691">And there's kind of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1693" data-t="1693">a sort of civil war that's going on here in the Podkoff ecosystem.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1697">28:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1697" data-t="1697">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1698" data-t="1698">I think they'll figure it out, you know, and come together in the future. But, you know, it makes me think. So, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1705" data-t="1705">right now, David Bailey is, you know, advising Trump.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1709" data-t="1709">And Dennis Porter is advising</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1712" data-t="1712">Kamala.</span> <span class="cue" data-t="1712">And, you know, Dennis on a on a space actually after the one,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1717">28:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1717" data-t="1717">that you were referencing because I he went into Huddl Magoo space.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1721" data-t="1721">And he announced that he would be announcing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1724" data-t="1724">his twenty twenty eight presidential candidacy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1729" data-t="1729">I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1730" data-t="1730">think it's very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1731" data-t="1731">I think it's very interesting. Like, do you think I think there's a high likelihood we could see David Bailey versus Dennis Porter</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1738">28:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1738" data-t="1738">in the twenty twenty eight presidential campaign or, election.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1742">29:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1742" data-t="1742">Well, I mean, by the time Dennis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1745" data-t="1745">by when we get to that campaign four years from now, it's gonna be kind of crazy to think about how many people Dennis is orange pilled. And if you go back to what I was saying earlier about kind of like that spell, that orange pilling somebody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1758" data-t="1758">kind of is equivalent to, he's gonna have a lot of, of, of voters under his spell from being orange pilled by him.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1765" data-t="1765">It's gonna be a very formidable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1768" data-t="1768">political opponent.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1770" data-t="1770">Yeah, before we get back, before we get to memes being illegal</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1773">29:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1773" data-t="1773">in England,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1775" data-t="1775">we do need to give,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1777" data-t="1777">one more acknowledgement to the other person who does the most orange filling,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1781" data-t="1781">which is Udi and the Taproot Wizards.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1785" data-t="1785">Unfortunately</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1786" data-t="1786">not everybody</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1787">29:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1787" data-t="1787">is proud or not everybody supports,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1790" data-t="1790">the Wizards because they are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1793" data-t="1793">essentially,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1794" data-t="1794">orange pilling,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1795" data-t="1795">shitcoiners.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1796" data-t="1796">And they're bringing,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1798">29:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1798" data-t="1798">Somebody made an analogy. It's like the Democrats in The United States,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1803" data-t="1803">are just letting illegal aliens just pillar over the border. It's like, that's what Moody's doing. He's just pulling down the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1809" data-t="1809">border and just letting shitcoiners,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1811" data-t="1811">orange pill shitcoiners just flood it. And people like Corey Klitzden at SWA, he doesn't think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1817" data-t="1817">the shitcoiners are sending their best. He thinks it's, you know, there's people who say that these shitcoiners are former devs of projects that, you know, were assassination token coins on Solana.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1829" data-t="1829">These are</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1830">30:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1830" data-t="1830">scammers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1832" data-t="1832">from Cardano,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1833" data-t="1833">XRP,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1834" data-t="1834">etcetera.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1837" data-t="1837">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1839" data-t="1839">because</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1840">30:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1840" data-t="1840">Bitcoin is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1841" data-t="1841">a permissionless</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1842" data-t="1842">peer to peer system,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1844" data-t="1844">They are now known runners,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1846" data-t="1846">and they are a part of this community, so they're here to stay, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1851" data-t="1851">most people kind of believe that Dennis Porter and and and David Bailey, they're going towards the politicians,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1857">30:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1857" data-t="1857">the, the Chamber of Commerce,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1860" data-t="1860">things like that, which is a better,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1862">31:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1862" data-t="1862">influence for this for this community. I think Gowdy's role is gonna be very important, one, going forward because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1870" data-t="1870">you know, there has to be somebody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1872" data-t="1872">so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1873" data-t="1873">Donald Trump, you know, says he wants all the Bitcoins to be mined in The US. And I think that's gonna be, you know, kind of a growing trend,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1880" data-t="1880">you know, whether he's selected or not in this next election.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1885" data-t="1885">But,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1887">31:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1887" data-t="1887">you know, if the world if it land the world in The United States hyperbitcoinizes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1892" data-t="1892">you know, Oodie's there to fulfill an important role of ensuring The US continues to fund, you know, our greatest ally in The Middle East. 100%. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1903">31:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1903" data-t="1903">It is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1904" data-t="1904">a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1905" data-t="1905">we did talk about this a little bit, but it is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1909" data-t="1909">a not everything on Bitcoin that matters is happening in The United States. There are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1914" data-t="1914">ancillary projects and ancillary</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1916" data-t="1916">markets</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1917">31:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1917" data-t="1917">outside of of The US that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1920" data-t="1920">a lot of people do do actually use,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1923" data-t="1923">and they they do matter and they they could potentially provide marginal benefit to the network.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1931" data-t="1931">But, yeah, like the the focus is is here in The United States.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1935" data-t="1935">But across the ocean</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1937" data-t="1937">in The United Kingdom,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1939">32:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1939" data-t="1939">honestly,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1941" data-t="1941">I've had to believe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1942" data-t="1942">I still am in a little bit in shock and media denial. Like, I'm wondering, is this like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1948" data-t="1948">a PSIOP campaign?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1950" data-t="1950">It but memes and shit pasting has been,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1953" data-t="1953">criminalized</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1954">32:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1954" data-t="1954">in England.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1956" data-t="1956">People are going to jail swiftly. They have, like, televised,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1960" data-t="1960">these are like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1961" data-t="1961">show courts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1963" data-t="1963">where where people who post the best memes are in the country are,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1968" data-t="1968">given the chance to be on TV and then put them in, they're sent to jail.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1971">32:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1971" data-t="1971">And I talked to a buddy. I asked him like how things were going,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1975" data-t="1975">how it was living in England right now. And he told me,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1979" data-t="1979">you know, Hey, I can't complain.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1981" data-t="1981">And I said, Really? Like I'm seeing all this crazy stuff on the news. He's like, No,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1985" data-t="1985">I'm serious. I can't complain. If I complain,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1988" data-t="1988">I'm gonna get arrested. They're tapping, they're listening to my phone.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1992">33:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1992" data-t="1992">And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1993">33:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1993" data-t="1993">it's dystopian as fuck. I don't know. It's not great. Well, I mean, I think there's a reason why some of the greatest dystopian authors</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1999" data-t="1999">come from,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2001" data-t="2001">England.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2002" data-t="2002">And, like, this is something we should be very concerned as as Americans,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2008" data-t="2008">because there there have been restrictions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2011" data-t="2011">to</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2012">33:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2012" data-t="2012">or attempts to restrict their constitutional rights.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2015" data-t="2015">And the thing that people need to understand is that memes are more than just a first first amendment</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2023" data-t="2023">memes are more than a first amendment protected activity. They are also a Second Amendment</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2028">33:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2028" data-t="2028">protected activity. Exactly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2032" data-t="2032">Memes are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2034" data-t="2034">memes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2035" data-t="2035">Yeah. Listen, if I'm standing right in front of you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2038" data-t="2038">a blow to the chest is gonna be the the worst thing you can do to me. But if I am across space and time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2045" data-t="2045">away from you outside of the range of your,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2048">34:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2048" data-t="2048">of your gun,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2050" data-t="2050">nothing more fatal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2052" data-t="2052">than a really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2054" data-t="2054">banger meme</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2055" data-t="2055">And like that can be when we turn</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2058" data-t="2058">that power of meme ing and shitposting at the state,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2062">34:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2062" data-t="2062">they crumble</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2063" data-t="2063">almost</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2065" data-t="2065">immediately. They know this. And so like if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2068" data-t="2068">we ever wanted to take down the state, if we're not fed up with the state,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2072" data-t="2072">we turn our meme</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2074" data-t="2074">energy at them. They're dying. They do not last very long. That's why they tried to censor Twitter.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2080">34:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2080" data-t="2080">That's why they're sending people to jail in The UK</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2083" data-t="2083">and it's encroaching in on us here. And right now,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2087" data-t="2087">Americans,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2088" data-t="2088">they like their government. They don't want they don't wanna duck on their own government. They're, they're proud of their government. They stand up for the national anthem. They put their hand over their heart. They say the pledge of allegiance when the military is blowing shit up and they have rock and roll behind a commercial with like fighter planes and and marines, like we fucking, we get a,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2107" data-t="2107">our heart rate our heart rate goes up. It's like a adrenaline rush. We're proud to be American. We don't wanna dunk on America.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2115" data-t="2115">But if we had to,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2117">35:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2117" data-t="2117">we could.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2119" data-t="2119">And they are trying to slowly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2122" data-t="2122">kind of construct</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2123" data-t="2123">the iron dome</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2126" data-t="2126">of meme defenses to prevent us from doing that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2129" data-t="2129">They learned from the Bitcoiners in The Middle East how to prevent,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2133">35:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2133" data-t="2133">you know, criticism from crashing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2136" data-t="2136">your regime.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2138">35:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2138" data-t="2138">You need the iron don't. Yeah. And so I think the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2142" data-t="2142">the kind of defense on our end</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2144" data-t="2144">is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2147" data-t="2147">like, we have to be like the Yemenis.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2149" data-t="2149">So essentially what they do is Right. There is. Yeah. We're like the Houthis.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2153" data-t="2153">So what they're gonna do So Sropids. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2156">35:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2156" data-t="2156">Exactly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2158" data-t="2158">Because you can essentially so constructing this iron dome is very expensive.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2163" data-t="2163">But for us to to go open up accounts on Twitter and shitposts is very inexpensive,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2169" data-t="2169">very low effort.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2171" data-t="2171">Spin up a lightning wallet, spin up a new Bitcoin node anywhere, right? It's very easy, very cheap. Yeah. I mean, we can we can flood these guys with such a volume of memes that they that their iron domes can't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2185" data-t="2185">they can't possibly stop us.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2187">36:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2187" data-t="2187">And then, you know, when they try and, you know, go after us in different ways other than just censoring us,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2193" data-t="2193">we're protected by the first and the second amendment. And so there's nothing that they could do.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2198">36:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2198" data-t="2198">So, this is a good example of this in action.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2202" data-t="2202">Americans didn't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2203" data-t="2203">direct this at their own government but we were able</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2206" data-t="2206">to direct it at England and we were helping,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2210" data-t="2210">British plagues take down their government. It's like their prime minister now has a,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2217" data-t="2217">approval rating of like 22%</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2219">36:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2219" data-t="2219">and it's like dropped like 20%, like the past two weeks because American memebers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2224" data-t="2224">were filling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2225" data-t="2225">the And honestly, if you don't know this, if you go on to the law enforcement websites</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2230" data-t="2230">of The United Kingdom, any of their local or federal governments,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2234" data-t="2234">you can fill out a complaint, you can file a police report</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2238" data-t="2238">against</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2239">37:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2239" data-t="2239">a person or, you know, a property, a company.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2243" data-t="2243">And by law,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2244" data-t="2244">every, you know, every single report</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2247" data-t="2247">has to be investigated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2248" data-t="2248">by the British police,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2250" data-t="2250">by British law enforcement.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2252">37:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2252" data-t="2252">So you can like go on Google maps, you can zoom in and you can get like addresses and you can get zip codes or whatever they have, whatever they call their zip codes, but you can get that data</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2262" data-t="2262">and you can use open source technology</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2264" data-t="2264">to craft,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2266" data-t="2266">you know, like you can use AI and say, fill me out a police report for this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2271" data-t="2271">police in England,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2273" data-t="2273">you know, and basically you could say like, hey, my neighbors are Albanian.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2277">37:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2277" data-t="2277">They should be arrested and why? Because they're Albanian.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2280" data-t="2280">Well, you know, you could you could say that somebody was using a shitcoin. You could you could say, like, Predator has been sending a lot of criminal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2288" data-t="2288">complaints,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2290" data-t="2290">saying people have been using Ethereum,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2292" data-t="2292">illegally and trading unregistered securities.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2295" data-t="2295">And so you can DDOS.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2297">38:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2297" data-t="2297">You can basically,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2299" data-t="2299">denial of service attack, like what Anonymous used to do,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2303" data-t="2303">the entire British law enforcement</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2305" data-t="2305">infrastructure,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2307" data-t="2307">and it's working. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2309" data-t="2309">if you're the Houthis in The Middle East, you can use non KYC,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2313">38:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2313" data-t="2313">open source,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2316" data-t="2316">drones, open source missiles, open source rockets, all this non KYC</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2321" data-t="2321">and you and you can get basically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2323" data-t="2323">your missiles don't actually dip past the iron dome,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2326" data-t="2326">but it costs your enemy a billion dollars to protect your rocket that only costs you a $100</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2331" data-t="2331">Eventually they'll run out of money or that the print it, which will if they have to print it, your Bitcoin</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2336">38:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2336" data-t="2336">will go up in value and you'll actually have more money than that. Yeah. I think we need to we need to fire our missiles</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2343">39:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2343" data-t="2343">at The UK,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2344" data-t="2344">but then we also need to provide humanitarian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2347" data-t="2347">aid in the form of pallets of, Barbara Red cigarettes.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2352">39:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2352" data-t="2352">Yeah. Yeah. This is this is a great time to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2355" data-t="2355">remember</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2357" data-t="2357">that people in these really stressful,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2360" data-t="2360">mean battles with their government, you know, they they need access to nicotine. They need access to cigarettes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2367" data-t="2367">And honestly,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2368" data-t="2368">I don't know if it would make it into The China, and I think they deserve access to, non KYC feet pics as well.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2376">39:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2376" data-t="2376">Mhmm. Yeah. I mean, I would be willing to donate a bunch of my feet pics to the British people that need some relief.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2384" data-t="2384">Just hit me up in the DMs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2386" data-t="2386">Absolutely.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2388">39:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2388" data-t="2388">Wow, man. That was a that was a big intro,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2391" data-t="2391">got through our topics.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2393" data-t="2393">But we would be remiss if we don't take time. I think a lot of people have been asking about it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2399" data-t="2399">so it's time to talk a little bit about what is the intellectual</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2403" data-t="2403">Silk Road?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2405" data-t="2405">And that question, the answer to that question,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2411">40:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2411" data-t="2411">it's it's it's gonna be different for everybody.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2413" data-t="2413">So I guess I start by saying, like, how would you describe it?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2417" data-t="2417">Richard.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2419">40:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2419" data-t="2419">I think the intellectual silk road is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2422" data-t="2422">kind of a collection</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2424" data-t="2424">of different individuals in the content ecosystem</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2429" data-t="2429">that either support content creators or create content creators who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2433" data-t="2433">are kind of aligned with our mission of, defeating Podkoff</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2438" data-t="2438">and,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2439">40:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2439" data-t="2439">like breaking this model narrative that's trying to control everybody.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2443" data-t="2443">Right.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2445">40:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2445" data-t="2445">It's a you know, I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2447" data-t="2447">I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2449" data-t="2449">to try to break it down</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2452" data-t="2452">as most identifiable as possible.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2456" data-t="2456">Right now,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2458" data-t="2458">most of us,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2460">40:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2460" data-t="2460">the choirs, alpha males, cypher punks,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2463" data-t="2463">we are in the group chat. We're not working. The economy is going into a recession because most of us have to have jobs are not actually doing our jobs. We're actually spending all day in group chats</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2475" data-t="2475">discussing game theory,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2477" data-t="2477">analyzing incentives,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2479" data-t="2479">talking about, like, what do you think the price is? What's the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2482" data-t="2482">fee market look like on on Bitcoin? Like, what's the what's the hash rate? We're, like, keeping all of these metrics and all of this analysis, and we're synthesizing</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2491">41:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2491" data-t="2491">it and using it to solve</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2493" data-t="2493">all the problems in the world</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2495" data-t="2495">in each group chat.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2497" data-t="2497">And now if you were to think of that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2501" data-t="2501">accept</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2503" data-t="2503">a decentralized</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2504">41:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2504" data-t="2504">network of different group chats on different</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2508" data-t="2508">devices, on different</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2510" data-t="2510">platforms, on different apps,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2513" data-t="2513">fountain,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2514" data-t="2514">nostril,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2515" data-t="2515">Telegram,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2516">41:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2516" data-t="2516">Signal,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2517" data-t="2517">Twitter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2518" data-t="2518">you know, Facebook</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2520" data-t="2520">Messenger,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2522" data-t="2522">whatever,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2524" data-t="2524">and these networks and these connections that you build</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2528">42:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2528" data-t="2528">to the people who are you're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2530" data-t="2530">discussing this game, you're solving these problems with. It's a way for you to have a decentralized</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2536" data-t="2536">marketplace of ideas</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2538" data-t="2538">so we can solve</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2540" data-t="2540">all the world's problems. Bitcoin fixes this, but this is the behind the scenes look at how it's fixing it. It's the intellectual Silk Road</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2549" data-t="2549">and you don't have to run the intellectual Silk Road software. You can fork it. You can have your own decentralized,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2556">42:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2556" data-t="2556">non compliant,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2558" data-t="2558">value for value circular economy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2561" data-t="2561">using Fedimint,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2563" data-t="2563">you know, or lightning rods or liquid. It's up to you. Yeah, I mean, you can see</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2568">42:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2568" data-t="2568">like while the intellectual Silk Road is not very public, it's very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2573" data-t="2573">active</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2574" data-t="2574">and it's essentially a secret society. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2577" data-t="2577">you look at a lot of the inefficiencies happening in in the labor market right now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2582" data-t="2582">where,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2583" data-t="2583">you know, people aren't,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2585">43:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2585" data-t="2585">like, doing their day to day jobs. They're sitting on Telegram</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2588" data-t="2588">having conversations, but they're also listening to full time or, you know, podcast full time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2594" data-t="2594">You know? Because when you're listening to Bitcoin podcast forty hours a week,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2598" data-t="2598">you don't really have time to participate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2601" data-t="2601">in your job.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2603" data-t="2603">So, like, you know, you ask why the Secret Service is so incompetent during the attempted Trump assassination.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2609">43:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2609" data-t="2609">It's because they were listening to to Bitcoin podcast Right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2613" data-t="2613">Instead of doing their jobs. Exactly. And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2616">43:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2616" data-t="2616">we talked about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2618" data-t="2618">this meme war and taking down the state with our memes and dunking on the government</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2624" data-t="2624">and inevitably</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2626" data-t="2626">there's going to be crackdowns</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2628" data-t="2628">on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2629" data-t="2629">some of the best memes,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2631">43:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2631" data-t="2631">the kind of stuff that gets you, gets you recognized at your company by the HR department because it was so good.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2638" data-t="2638">Like those kind of memes, if they're gonna make those</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2641" data-t="2641">if they don't make them downright illegal,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2643" data-t="2643">they'll make them very hard to post. And we, we can be go back to like the 2020</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2648" data-t="2648">era on Twitter. It was like the best memes were the hardest to post.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2653" data-t="2653">And the intellectual Silk Road is this</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2657">44:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2657" data-t="2657">it's like the, you know, Henry Tadman and the Underground Railroad</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2660" data-t="2660">or just the Silk Road,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2662" data-t="2662">the one that, Ross has been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2665" data-t="2665">unjustly imprisoned for building.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2670" data-t="2670">It's how those memes are are moved and traded and shared</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2675" data-t="2675">and put into position to be the most effective and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2679">44:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2679" data-t="2679">posted when it's the right time to be posted and when it's gonna be the most high rate of success</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2684" data-t="2684">to be posted.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2685" data-t="2685">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2687" data-t="2687">it's also</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2688" data-t="2688">it's also how we defeat the the Byzantine generals problem</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2691" data-t="2691">of,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2692">44:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2692" data-t="2692">of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2693" data-t="2693">the meme war against the government.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2696" data-t="2696">If we can't post the memes on orbitals,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2699">44:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2699" data-t="2699">because the ocean has raised too high. Well, the reason why we started this endeavor with the intellectual Silk Road is we realized</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2708" data-t="2708">we were kinda outmatched in resources against the CIA.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2712" data-t="2712">The CIA has been memeing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2714" data-t="2714">really, really hard.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2715" data-t="2715">And, you know, Podkoff is definitely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2718" data-t="2718">not putting up any sort of</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2721">45:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2721" data-t="2721">resistance to them and in many ways actually supporting them in their efforts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2726" data-t="2726">And so we realized we had to find, you know, kind of a sly roundabout way</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2732" data-t="2732">to out meme the CIA and this is how it's being done.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2736">45:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2736" data-t="2736">Right. They think about it. Ever since Elon hid the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2740" data-t="2740">the likes on Twitter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2742" data-t="2742">well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2743" data-t="2743">it's important context to know which is that the amount of likes and engagements</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2748" data-t="2748">that a post gets on social media, that affects the algorithm, that affects its,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2752" data-t="2752">reach. So the amount of reach, the amount of people who see a meme is affected by how many people like it in such cases.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2760">46:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2760" data-t="2760">So if the likes are private,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2763" data-t="2763">now the CIA is it's much easier for them or any other company</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2767" data-t="2767">to to create</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2769" data-t="2769">through, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2771" data-t="2771">AI or some other</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2773" data-t="2773">sophisticated software,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2774">46:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2774" data-t="2774">thousands,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2775" data-t="2775">millions of accounts just to go and like their favorite memes so that the CIA's favorite memes get shown in everybody's timelines, they get more likes and more followers than you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2789" data-t="2789">It's, you have to have a way around that. We have to be able to post banger tweets that get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2795" data-t="2795">in front</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2797" data-t="2797">of people's eyes so they can be educated.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2800">46:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2800" data-t="2800">And I I think this is something that's interesting about what we're accomplishing is we are getting in front of people's eyes. It's just not that we're getting very much engagement.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2809" data-t="2809">Because this is like one of the problems when you're act operating on a website that is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2815" data-t="2815">has such an active civil,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2817" data-t="2817">attack happening against us that it becomes hard to engage, you know, what the engagement</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2823">47:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2823" data-t="2823">Right. It's hard to know if you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2826" data-t="2826">if you're interacting with a Fed or if you're interacting with another</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2830" data-t="2830">intellectual Silk Road member</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2832" data-t="2832">just because they claim to be an intellectual Silk Road member or to be intellectual Silk Road material. And I think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2839" data-t="2839">if you think of it, if you want to think of it intellectual Silk Road, it's kind of like a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2843" data-t="2843">ethical, nonviolent, decentralized,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2846">47:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2846" data-t="2846">non KYC Sopranos</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2847" data-t="2847">that you see in The Sopranos.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2849" data-t="2849">And one of the things that's important</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2851" data-t="2851">about The Sopranos is that they were a tight knit group</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2855" data-t="2855">and they even used like special ways of communicating with each other and testing each other to make sure that they were,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2862" data-t="2862">not feds or they were not bots or scammers.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2865">47:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2865" data-t="2865">You know, it's like they would talk on the phone, they would talk about, they wouldn't call it the mafia. They would call it this thing of ours.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2872" data-t="2872">And so we can say around normies, like, if you're talking about the intellectual silk road and you don't know who's listening, it's this thing of ours.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2879" data-t="2879">And it's, you know, if you're, if you're taught, if, if you're a little closer to somebody and you want to protect your upset</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2885" data-t="2885">and you want to make sure that this person's really not fed,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2889" data-t="2889">then the best thing you can do is take them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2892" data-t="2892">out</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2893">48:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2893" data-t="2893">someday with you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2896" data-t="2896">go out in the sun on a hot sunny day, take your shirts off,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2900" data-t="2900">chop some oil in the sun, no sunscreen,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2903" data-t="2903">drink raw milk, smoke non KYC cigarettes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2906" data-t="2906">spend a couple hours doing that. If they can make it through that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2909" data-t="2909">that person is obviously aside for pot They're like, they're</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2912">48:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2912" data-t="2912">not eating seed oils,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2914" data-t="2914">they're working out,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2915" data-t="2915">they drink raw milk They can drink, they prefer to drink raw milk and they smoke it on KYC cigarettes It's like kind of this, it's like a fed filter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2923" data-t="2923">and that's the kind of stuff that that you can do</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2926">48:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2926" data-t="2926">and it enhances the security and it strengthens the signal to help you break through that civil attack. Sounds like they need to enjoy and have a good time at Lake Satoshi and not piss anybody off and that's kinda how you can tell if they're legit or not.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2940">49:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2940" data-t="2940">Right. If you're in if you're at the Bitcoin conference in Vegas,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2944" data-t="2944">neck here,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2945" data-t="2945">it's cool because it's like, oh, everybody can smoke inside. Well, it's it's an easy thing to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2951" data-t="2951">it's an easy way to, like, trick somebody into thinking, oh, this guy's not a face smoking inside.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2956" data-t="2956">But they KYC'd. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2958" data-t="2958">Vegas,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2959">49:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2959" data-t="2959">to get into any building in Vegas, you gotta be KYC'd.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2962" data-t="2962">They got cameras everywhere. It's got some of the strictest anti money laundering, KYC laws in the country.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2968" data-t="2968">They've got it down to a process. So when you're in a place like that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2972" data-t="2972">it's so difficult to maintain your privacy or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2975" data-t="2975">to know when you're interacting with a spook that it leaks a down sheet.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2979" data-t="2979">You know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2980">49:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2980" data-t="2980">it's a lot easier. There's no TSA. I wonder if in Vegas, if we should employ, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2986" data-t="2986">some</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2987" data-t="2987">I I've got some interesting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2988" data-t="2988">tactics that we could use to confuse</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2991" data-t="2991">the spooks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2992" data-t="2992">They're trying to monitor</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2994">49:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2994" data-t="2994">all of us there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2996" data-t="2996">I think that if we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2999" data-t="2999">like, we could take turns with each other's phones</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3002" data-t="3002">and hand them around and walk around with them. It just confused</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3006" data-t="3006">them just like very thoroughly. Essentially, it's coin joining our cell phones and all of our data and information.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3013" data-t="3013">So when they try and match it with our facial recognition,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3017">50:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3017" data-t="3017">they're gonna be absolutely baffled.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3019">50:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3019" data-t="3019">Right. Most most surveillance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3021" data-t="3021">apparatuses</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3022" data-t="3022">in cities</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3023" data-t="3023">or just like the the the broader mobile networks where they use because anybody can buy this data. Right? So they found out that the assassin from,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3032" data-t="3032">from, from Pennsylvania,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3034" data-t="3034">Crooks,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3035">50:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3035" data-t="3035">they found out through his publicly available,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3038" data-t="3038">cell phone location data that, he was in the same building,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3042" data-t="3042">as the FBI,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3045" data-t="3045">in Washington, DC. It's like this, building, this mall,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3048" data-t="3048">kind of in Downtown Washington, DC for all the kind of field agents where the FBI, where they work. And they could tell that that Matthew Kirks was there twice,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3056" data-t="3056">a few months before he took that shot. So it's like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3060">51:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3060" data-t="3060">don't, I don't really, I don't know why they,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3063" data-t="3063">they, they put that in the news, but it just made me think about the fact that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3067" data-t="3067">it's a pretty general</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3069" data-t="3069">accuracy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3070" data-t="3070">but in Vegas, they can know like down to the table, the seat you're sitting at the room, you're in the bathroom stall, you'd line into like where you are based on where your cell phone is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3079" data-t="3079">So it'd just be kind of goofy and fun to,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3082">51:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3082" data-t="3082">to kind</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3084" data-t="3084">of phone nix them, coin join your phones. Yeah, we should definitely coin join our phones</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3090">51:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3090" data-t="3090">and give the spooks a hard time. I'm</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3093" data-t="3093">looking forward to that. I think we're gonna just like completely baffle them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3097" data-t="3097">And then we can mix the coin joining with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3100" data-t="3100">a bunch of noncompliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3101" data-t="3101">memes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3102" data-t="3102">And so when you're sitting in a stall,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3106">51:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3106" data-t="3106">you can slap up some stickers with some memes on them.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3110">51:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3110" data-t="3110">Hell yeah, hell yeah, that's some guerrilla marketing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3114" data-t="3114">But I guess my next question would be why, what would you say to the person why they should join the intellectual Silk Road? Not because we need their help, but why should they do it for themselves? Well, I think the primary reason why somebody should join the intellectual</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3129">52:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3129" data-t="3129">silk road,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3130" data-t="3130">like I don't even think I need to do a whole lot of selling for anybody. Like all you have to do is you have to go</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3138" data-t="3138">and follow PodCom's Twitter account</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3141" data-t="3141">for like two weeks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3143" data-t="3143">And then just kinda pay attention to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3147" data-t="3147">what the mononarrative</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3148">52:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3148" data-t="3148">is and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3150" data-t="3150">the way that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3151" data-t="3151">they're essentially trying to discourage us from using products like Nostr</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3156" data-t="3156">and engaging in the value for value</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3160" data-t="3160">economy and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3162" data-t="3162">then you'll understand the importance of what we're trying to do as far as resisting it. So like to understand the importance of the resistance, you have to understand</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3171">52:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3171" data-t="3171">the the entity that we're trying to resist.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3174" data-t="3174">I think that's one of the problems.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3176" data-t="3176">It's like most people, they just haven't,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3179" data-t="3179">they haven't really seen the failings of Podkoff</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3181" data-t="3181">very clearly. But since we've</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3185" data-t="3185">forced them out of the shadows and into the public eye and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3189">53:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3189" data-t="3189">they're getting a lot of scrutiny</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3191" data-t="3191">from the plebs who are seeing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3194" data-t="3194">their</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3195" data-t="3195">attempts to control us. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3197">53:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3197" data-t="3197">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3198" data-t="3198">It's kind of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3202" data-t="3202">a who do you wanna be associated with type of thing. Like you will, you scroll that timeline</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3207" data-t="3207">and then you, you see what they're all about. And it's like, do I wanna be known as like, this is my tribe.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3213" data-t="3213">And it's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3215" data-t="3215">it's it kinda makes me think like if when you first tell somebody about this new technology you've learned about and you wanna share it with everybody</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3221">53:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3221" data-t="3221">and they don't know much about it, they're gonna see PodConf</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3225" data-t="3225">as like when they go on social media and think that that's what you're all about. Or if like you're from Arizona</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3230" data-t="3230">and you tell somebody about it there and they're like, I'm going to go on further and learn about this. And they see like Arizona hodl</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3236" data-t="3236">as like his like, you know, screen name. It's like, that's this person is like, this is like Arizona's Bitcoin, like named Bitcoin. Or like, this is like the guy that kind of represents everybody in Arizona. And so like, if you look at his timeline, you might not agree with this stuff he's posting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3251" data-t="3251">You wanna like have, you wanna be a part of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3254" data-t="3254">you know, a community that, you're proud when they look it up. They, they, that they know that that's what you fight for. Wholeheartedly agree.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3262">54:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3262" data-t="3262">Yeah. I mean, it it's just like, you know, there there's other issues like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3267" data-t="3267">the fact that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3269" data-t="3269">like, I think right now in particular, like, as we're watching</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3273" data-t="3273">the issues going on with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3275" data-t="3275">you know, a lot of different companies in the industry like Swan,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3279" data-t="3279">you know, that are essentially running out of money. Like, we're seeing a consistent issue</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3284">54:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3284" data-t="3284">in the PodConf ecosystem, which is there's all these</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3287" data-t="3287">these companies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3289" data-t="3289">that kinda come and exist</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3292" data-t="3292">and they're funded by VCs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3295" data-t="3295">And the VCs have strict parameters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3297" data-t="3297">of them sponsoring certain types of podcasts,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3300">55:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3300" data-t="3300">like what Bitcoin did</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3303" data-t="3303">and going and having booths</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3305" data-t="3305">at the conferences</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3307" data-t="3307">like Ordinals Magazine and it bankrupts them. And it's very, very toxic for the larger community because we wanna be building sustainable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3316" data-t="3316">products and companies.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3318" data-t="3318">But because</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3319">55:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3319" data-t="3319">these conferences and these podcasts are so expensive to sponsor,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3324" data-t="3324">there's no way for them to kinda continue.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3328" data-t="3328">And it it's problematic for all the plebs that are working there. You know, they constantly have to update their resume.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3335">55:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3335" data-t="3335">Yeah. It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3337" data-t="3337">And It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3340" data-t="3340">It's very telling because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3342" data-t="3342">the amount of work, the amount of money they have to spend and are willing to spend</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3347" data-t="3347">to control the narrative</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3349" data-t="3349">is said the cost is so high that it kills most people who try to do it. Whoever tries to control the narrative,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3355">55:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3355" data-t="3355">they, they go bankrupt and they go, or they go to jail or they just, they, they unplug.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3361" data-t="3361">But yet</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3362" data-t="3362">people are still</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3364" data-t="3364">out there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3365" data-t="3365">bidding up the price of, of ad space on what Bitcoin did,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3369" data-t="3369">you know, and and the populace will place</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3372">56:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3372" data-t="3372">it just because they want they need so badly to control the narrative. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3377" data-t="3377">these companies, as you said,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3379" data-t="3379">they have compliance departments, and compliance departments</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3383" data-t="3383">have a lot of overs oversight of memes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3386" data-t="3386">And just like, Peter Thiel was talking about on Joe Rogan,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3389" data-t="3389">this last the other day, like the CIA and the NSA,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3393">56:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3393" data-t="3393">these powerful, formerly powerful</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3396" data-t="3396">deep state entities, he says</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3398" data-t="3398">that they're probably a lot less effective and are probably doing a lot less things</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3402" data-t="3402">because now if they've got compliance departments, it it basically destroys their effectiveness.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3408" data-t="3408">And it's it's same just same for these companies. Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3412" data-t="3412">Compliant means</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3413">56:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3413" data-t="3413">are too expensive and too ineffective</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3416" data-t="3416">to really have an effect</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3418" data-t="3418">that they are everywhere. Well,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3420">57:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3420" data-t="3420">I think having a compliance department is just like a complete it's like a facade of compliance. Like it doesn't actually signify,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3427" data-t="3427">you know, true compliance because there's all these aspects</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3431" data-t="3431">of of government that they constantly claim to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3435" data-t="3435">compliant and yet they're not. And like a notable example of this, you know, as pointed out by predator</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3440" data-t="3440">for years is that, you know, Coinbase</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3443" data-t="3443">tries to present themselves</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3445">57:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3445" data-t="3445">as the most compliant exchange in the world.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3448" data-t="3448">Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3449" data-t="3449">And yet they've been trading</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3451" data-t="3451">unregistered</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3452" data-t="3452">securities</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3453" data-t="3453">for a very long time.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3456">57:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3456" data-t="3456">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3457" data-t="3457">The</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3458" data-t="3458">it's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3459" data-t="3459">it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3460" data-t="3460">to get back to thermodynamics,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3462" data-t="3462">to the physics that underline all of this,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3466">57:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3466" data-t="3466">when you see a star in the sky at night,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3469" data-t="3469">that is that is not that star in the state</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3473" data-t="3473">that it actually is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3475" data-t="3475">That's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3476" data-t="3476">in some cases what it looked like millions of light years ago</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3480" data-t="3480">and you're only seeing it as it reaches you.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3482">58:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3482" data-t="3482">Because of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3483" data-t="3483">these companies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3484" data-t="3484">because these government agencies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3487" data-t="3487">are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3488" data-t="3488">they're kinda like the compliance pantillioners.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3491" data-t="3491">They are the ones who create the compliance. They're the ones who set it in stone and helped shift it and shape it when it's put into law,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3499">58:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3499" data-t="3499">that they're the ones that benefit from it. When it, you know, when it first goes into law by the over time,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3504" data-t="3504">the compliance laws, these regulations that be completely ineffective and worthless, they don't benefit anybody, but they did benefit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3511" data-t="3511">Coinbase. They did benefit these, you know, the SEC,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3513" data-t="3513">the CIA, the people who wrote these compliance laws.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3516" data-t="3516">So by the time you are able</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3519" data-t="3519">to read the the compliance regulations, understand them,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3523">58:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3523" data-t="3523">and then construct a company a business model that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3528" data-t="3528">follows those compliance standards, they're already</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3531" data-t="3531">out of date, they're already,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3534" data-t="3534">you know, it's they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3535" data-t="3535">they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3536" data-t="3536">invalid,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3538">58:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3538" data-t="3538">they're deprecated.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3539" data-t="3539">And so you think you're you spent all this money and all this energy to be compliant and you think you are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3545" data-t="3545">only to find out that the rules have changed since then. And now you are considered non compliant and you are gonna go to jail. Where did he shut down? Yeah. I mean, I happened to see the the Binance.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3556">59:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3556" data-t="3556">He thought that It happened to Samroy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3559" data-t="3559">Yep. It happens to the best.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3561" data-t="3561">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3563" data-t="3563">yeah. I mean, this is why I I think we've taken a stance of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3568" data-t="3568">you know, supporting this compliance strike that, you know, many people have been promoting this because it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3574" data-t="3574">you know, people have to realize that</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3576">59:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3576" data-t="3576">it's not a winning strategy. It's actually, you know, more expensive and confusing. But,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3583">59:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3583" data-t="3583">Man, I can't believe my tax bill.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3586" data-t="3586">I still owe taxes from last year, and now I owe more.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3589" data-t="3589">I don't know how I'll ever be able to pay this off. Oh, wow. That's crazy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3594">59:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3594" data-t="3594">I don't know how you can even afford to live if you can't afford to pay taxes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3597" data-t="3597">I don't have that issue right now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3599">59:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3599" data-t="3599">Yeah. It's getting impossible to afford to eat food. I'm afraid my kids are going to grow up retarded because all I can feed them is ramen and peanut butter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3608" data-t="3608">How in the hell can you afford to pay your taxes right now?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3611">1:00:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3611" data-t="3611">Yeah. I feed my kids steak every night for dinner. Do you really wanna know the secret to how I can afford taxes?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3617">1:00:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3617" data-t="3617">Yes. Tell me. I need to figure out a way to get the IRS off my dick.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3622">1:00:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3622" data-t="3622">The way you can afford taxes is you give your government issued ID to an app on your cell phone that lets you buy Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3628" data-t="3628">You then withdraw that Bitcoin to a hardware wallet that you bought with your debit card. But before you do any of this, you have to listen to at least forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts, read the Bitcoin standard, and sign up for an account on Twitter.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3640">1:00:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3640" data-t="3640">Oh, wow. I'm glad there is another way I can put my personal identification on the Internet and that it can help me afford to pay taxes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3647" data-t="3647">But isn't a Bitcoin kind of expensive?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3650">1:00:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3650" data-t="3650">No. You're a dumbass, and this is why you can't pay taxes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3653" data-t="3653">Go read the Bitcoin standard and listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts, and then you will know the secret to how to afford paying taxes. But don't get confused. If you listen to some of Peter McCormack's old episodes, his old sponsors aren't in business anymore.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3669">1:01:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">AI Dennis Porter</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3669" data-t="3669">Hello. This is AI Dennis Porter. If you are out there struggling to pay your taxes, there is hope. With Bitcoin, you can save your money. And as it goes up in value, you will be able to afford to pay your taxes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3680" data-t="3680">Bitcoin is the best tool at our disposal to comply. Don't worry because I will protect your fundamental right to pay taxes.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3689">1:01:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3689" data-t="3689">Yeah. I think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3690" data-t="3690">I don't know. I think what we got going on here with the intellectual Silk Road is, you know, very, very special. And I think it's something to look forward to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3698" data-t="3698">and to continue to monitor and watch.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3701" data-t="3701">And we'll have some big plans</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3704" data-t="3704">coming next year</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3705" data-t="3705">in Vegas. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3707">1:01:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3707" data-t="3707">And for people who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3710" data-t="3710">are interested</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3711" data-t="3711">in joining,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3714" data-t="3714">you may be asked,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3716" data-t="3716">but there's no guarantee.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3719" data-t="3719">There's no website.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3720">1:01:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3720" data-t="3720">There's no email address. There's no individual</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3724" data-t="3724">DM,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3726" data-t="3726">group chat,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3728" data-t="3728">or anything like that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3730" data-t="3730">that can vouch for you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3732" data-t="3732">and everybody else recognizes. It's kinda like a node.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3735">1:02:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3735" data-t="3735">Just because you connect to one node doesn't mean it's the right network</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3738" data-t="3738">and it doesn't mean the other doesn't recognize it. But if you search it out, you will finally get connected. And then, then you'll just kind of know it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3747" data-t="3747">And that's kind of the only instructions I've got for now, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3751" data-t="3751">I wanna make sure that everybody knows</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3754" data-t="3754">in terms of who's eligible, pretty much everybody. It's non KYC,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3758" data-t="3758">even if you're a pep or wizard, you have a history of Minari's,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3762">1:02:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3762" data-t="3762">you're Terrence Yang,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3763" data-t="3763">or a girl.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3766" data-t="3766">You're still eligible</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3768" data-t="3768">based on your</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3769">1:02:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3769" data-t="3769">proof of work. I've been really surprised. The more I dig into it, I keep on finding more and more women</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3775" data-t="3775">interacting with Bitcoin. And I didn't realize there were so many women here.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3778">1:02:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3778" data-t="3778">Sometimes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3780" data-t="3780">they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3781" data-t="3781">disguised.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3783" data-t="3783">Sometimes they have,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3785" data-t="3785">they're an</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3786" data-t="3786">anon on on social media and they have really</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3790">1:03:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3790" data-t="3790">intelligent opinions and like really based</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3792" data-t="3792">like theories. And it's like, wow, I can't believe I found out later. Like that was a crow the whole time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3798" data-t="3798">Would've They caught me off guard.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3801">1:03:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3801" data-t="3801">Well, I'm just, you know, they're the type of women</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3805" data-t="3805">and I and I guess I under underestimated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3808" data-t="3808">women in general because I just figured that, you know, all women in the industry would try and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3813" data-t="3813">leverage the fact that they're women to get all the engagement from simps.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3818" data-t="3818">But Right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3819" data-t="3819">There's a lot of women that, you know, do not try and, engagement for the simps. They're just they're they're just here to They're just here to transact adversarially.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3828">1:03:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3828" data-t="3828">Mhmm. They're not here for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3831" data-t="3831">to impress you or tiki you to buy their,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3836" data-t="3836">their their tutorial course. They're just here to transact adversarially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3840" data-t="3840">and then they they wanna be treated as peers. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3843">1:04:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3843" data-t="3843">Because I I think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3845" data-t="3845">you know, when when people think of women in Bitcoin, like, they instantly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3849" data-t="3849">go to thinking of people like Michelle Weekley and Natalie Burnell,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3854" data-t="3854">People that are on the PodConf tour that, you know, get a lot of attention, you know, not for, like, you know, any reasons like they're saying anything interesting or helpful,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3864" data-t="3864">but because they're, you know, using their status as a woman to engagement form. But, yeah, I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3871" data-t="3871">there's a whole army of based women out there.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3874">1:04:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3874" data-t="3874">And so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3876" data-t="3876">I think they just wanna keep a low profile because I think the Sims can be kind of overwhelming at times.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3881" data-t="3881">Like look what Lane Alden has to deal with on a on a daily basis with all the sims.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3887" data-t="3887">It must be exhausting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3889">1:04:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3889" data-t="3889">Hell, yeah. Yeah. It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3891" data-t="3891">when you got the looks and the brains</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3893" data-t="3893">and the and you mix in the macro,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3898" data-t="3898">that is a</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3900">1:04:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3900" data-t="3900">it's kinda like a I don't know, like a a scent magnet. I mean, I find it hard for my for me myself not to scent for her. She's kind of a babe. Like, I I didn't realize how much she was a babe of a babe she was until she,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3913" data-t="3913">notified the world that, she does indeed have a left ear. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that was a good story.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3920">1:05:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3920" data-t="3920">I didn't I didn't think we ever see that. It's kinda like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3924" data-t="3924">the show home improvement</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3926" data-t="3926">back in the nineties, the 10/00,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3928" data-t="3928">and it was like Wilson, you ever saw it after his face. He's always behind the gate. I just never thought we'd see that that ear. Ours, you know, I I didn't think it existed. I mean, there's, I don't know. There there's many things,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3940">1:05:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3940" data-t="3940">you know, that are kinda like out there in in the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3943" data-t="3943">in the lore,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3945" data-t="3945">that I think we're kinda conditioned to believe in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3948" data-t="3948">could be real, but like because they're so mythical. So like, you know, some examples of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3955" data-t="3955">this include, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3957" data-t="3957">Atlantis</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3958">1:05:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3958" data-t="3958">or,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3959" data-t="3959">El Dorado.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3961" data-t="3961">And I would say, Lynn Alden's left ear, you know, kinda falls into the same category as, like, these</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3967" data-t="3967">these</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3968" data-t="3968">mythical ancient</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3970" data-t="3970">sites</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3971">1:06:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3971" data-t="3971">that</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3973">1:06:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3973" data-t="3973">are Yeah, if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3974" data-t="3974">you have an ear fetish, man, it's like the Ark of the Covenant. That's like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3978" data-t="3978">the holographic Charizard.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3981">1:06:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3981" data-t="3981">Well, it's kind of interesting. So, you know, if you think about it, so Lynn could could have been,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3988" data-t="3988">intentionally</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3990" data-t="3990">holding back,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3991" data-t="3991">revealing her left ear</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3995" data-t="3995">as a way to kinda, like, develop a comp competitor to these decentralized peer to peer</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4001">1:06:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4001" data-t="4001">foot pick markets. It's an ear ear pictures are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4005" data-t="4005">it's a niche market, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4007" data-t="4007">I dare to you. It's underserved.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4009" data-t="4009">Like, because I need a, you can get a picture of an ear anywhere. It's like the guy from Big Lebowski and get you a finger by 6PM, dude. But what you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4017" data-t="4017">get, you get an ear that nobody else has spotted, like a camera hasn't captured before.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4022" data-t="4022">That was a little more</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4024">1:07:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4024" data-t="4024">special. But but it's not just anybody's year. It's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4027" data-t="4027">Of course. Lynn Alden's year. It's a very special year.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4032" data-t="4032">And, you know, is one one thing that was really interesting about Lynn's post about it is that she revealed that her mother also concealed her ear.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4041" data-t="4041">So maybe this is an intergenerational</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4043" data-t="4043">like wealth building strategy</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4045">1:07:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4045" data-t="4045">that they've been employing. Right. Like in like one of the most successful cultures of all time, Japan,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4050" data-t="4050">for thousands of years, they they bound feet.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4053" data-t="4053">It's like</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4055">1:07:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4055" data-t="4055">the Bitcoin citadels, the the women will seal the year. Yeah, that's, you know, for anybody thinking that citadels won't work. I mean, think about the revenue stream of, you know, your picks</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4066" data-t="4066">that opens up. Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4068" data-t="4068">we'll be able to, you know, sit back and and buy Bitcoin, you know, because we're gonna be generating our own</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4074" data-t="4074">power in our citadels and all of it will be funded by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4079" data-t="4079">low effort activities like feed picks and earpicks.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4083">1:08:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4083" data-t="4083">And it's true. Once</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4084" data-t="4084">we're able</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4086" data-t="4086">to three d print many nuclear reactors,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4089" data-t="4089">open source,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4090" data-t="4090">in our citadels,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4092" data-t="4092">it's really</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4093">1:08:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4093" data-t="4093">so much productivity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4094" data-t="4094">and, you know, energy and all the spare capacity.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4099" data-t="4099">It's gonna be crazy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4100" data-t="4100">I guess quick question, Dooley,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4104" data-t="4104">anybody, anybody ever offered you any money for your earpicks? We don't we talked about feetpicks, but earpicks?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4123">1:08:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kaylee Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4123" data-t="4123">People have definitely offered me money for ear picks, but it's not been as lucrative as the feet pick market. Oh, wow.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4129">1:08:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4129" data-t="4129">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4131" data-t="4131">maybe maybe know that you're a producer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4133" data-t="4133">that'll,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4134" data-t="4134">price will go up. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4136">1:08:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4136" data-t="4136">Well, I mean, you know, I I think the unfortunate thing about Kaylee is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4141" data-t="4141">that she has not,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4143" data-t="4143">concealed her ears.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4145" data-t="4145">So they're, like, already out there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4148" data-t="4148">You got any final thoughts for wrapping wrapping this up, Rod, before I go over to the found boost?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4153">1:09:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4153" data-t="4153">No. I think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4154" data-t="4154">if you're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4156" data-t="4156">if you're interested in the intellectual Silk Road,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4159" data-t="4159">reach out, to learn more. And, I wanted to talk about some other topics today, but, I think we, we covered a lot of good stuff. So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4168" data-t="4168">we'll save it for next week, except for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4171" data-t="4171">one more before</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4173">1:09:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4173" data-t="4173">it didn't wanna go without</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4174" data-t="4174">referencing. You talked about,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4177">1:09:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4177" data-t="4177">a special cigarette brand. Yeah. I mean, I've been talking with, some members about of the intellectual Silk Road about launching,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4184" data-t="4184">intellectual</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4185" data-t="4185">Silk Road cigarettes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4187" data-t="4187">that you can only have access to if you're, you know, an actual</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4191" data-t="4191">member of the secret society of sorts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4194" data-t="4194">So it's like one of those things that,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4198">1:09:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4198" data-t="4198">you know, we probably won't talk about again publicly on here.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4202" data-t="4202">But you'll know when you see them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4205" data-t="4205">You'll know that you're really you've really made it if you get to smoke one of these. Oh, yeah. Alright, guys.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4210" data-t="4210">I'll talk to you next week. Alright. Thanks for jumping on, Rod. See you later.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4216" data-t="4216">Alright. So heading to the fountain boost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4220" data-t="4220">Our first one of the day is from, our good friend, We All Eat for twenty one thousand and twenty one Sass who says,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4227">1:10:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4227" data-t="4227">you know, fuck Hailey.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4229" data-t="4229">Y'all got some compliance cogs for warming her dick up</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4233" data-t="4233">Dick's mic.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4235" data-t="4235">Warming</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4236" data-t="4236">for having her warm up Dick's mic. Sorry.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4239" data-t="4239">Does she really</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4241">1:10:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4241" data-t="4241">spit on that thing, Dick? Shadrach</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4244" data-t="4244">was deaf bumping some bugle tunes at Lake Satoshi. It warmed my heart.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4248" data-t="4248">Yeah. So, you know, Kaylee and I, we we have a professional relationship. So her name's Kaylee and not Haley.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4254" data-t="4254">And, you know, she finds</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4256" data-t="4256">it kind of offensive when,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4259" data-t="4259">you,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4260">1:11:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4260" data-t="4260">confuse the two. So I encourage you to refer to her by her proper name in the future. But, yeah, I heard,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4267" data-t="4267">I heard the bugle music was getting played all over Lake Satoshi, and that really warmed my heart and, got me excited.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4275" data-t="4275">It's exciting to see, you know, people just,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4279" data-t="4279">you know, embrace credentialed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4282" data-t="4282">music in general, because we need that in a time like this. We need the credentialed musicians,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4288" data-t="4288">producing music and and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4290">1:11:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4290" data-t="4290">yeah. It's great.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4292" data-t="4292">But, yeah, thank you for the boost we all eat.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4295" data-t="4295">I was very sad not to make it over to Lake Satoshi. Like, that seems like it's probably one of the best</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4302" data-t="4302">Bitcoin related events that happens</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4305" data-t="4305">globally ever,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4306" data-t="4306">and it happens every year.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4309">1:11:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4309" data-t="4309">So I hope to make it there next year.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4311" data-t="4311">Our next boost is from our good friend, q w, over at Plug Chain Radio for 10,000 sats, and and he boosted us twice,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4320" data-t="4320">with slight deviations.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4323" data-t="4323">Well, actually, it's the same comment, double boosted us.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4326" data-t="4326">But KeyW says, just a subtle reminder</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4330" data-t="4330">that Footster is not priced in.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4333">1:12:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4333" data-t="4333">I agree. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4334" data-t="4334">it's gonna be really exciting to see you know, these markets on on Oster develop the decentralized peer to peer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4341" data-t="4341">feet pick,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4342" data-t="4342">market. You know, it's a huge,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4345" data-t="4345">huge thing. And, you know, really like, there's there's all these, you know, ideas about, like, how to save The US economy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4353" data-t="4353">from, you know, this debt spiral that</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4356">1:12:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4356" data-t="4356">these politicians have created by just being generally noncompliance,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4359" data-t="4359">printing a lot of money.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4362" data-t="4362">And I think, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4364" data-t="4364">instead of looking at ways to bail out the current</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4369" data-t="4369">businesses, which are essentially operating as zombie companies, we have to look at ways to generate new</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4375" data-t="4375">economic activity.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4377">1:12:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4377" data-t="4377">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4378" data-t="4378">one of the ways is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4381" data-t="4381">this peer to peer market which is happening on Bitcoin or using Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4387" data-t="4387">which is the value for value economy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4389" data-t="4389">and VPIX</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4391" data-t="4391">are just an extension of that. I was very excited to see and I agree. Footster is definitely not priced in.</span></span></p> +