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You are about to listen to the Bugle weekly podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4" data-t="4">Side effects could include being better informed,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-7" data-t="7">noncompliance,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-8" data-t="8">an increase in or starting smoking, feeling good about yourself, seeing through podconf deception,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-14" data-t="14">and more.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-15" data-t="15">Please consult your most trusted credentialed superior if you experience any of these symptoms.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-20">0:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-20" data-t="20">If you find the show helpful and valuable, please consider boosting the show on Fountain.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-25" data-t="25">Listener discretion is advised.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-27">0:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-27" data-t="27">In a bustling noose from spoken Marlboro</span> <span class="cue" id="t-30" data-t="30">Reds.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-32" data-t="32">Two men work to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-34" data-t="34">just as brave as can be.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-36" data-t="36">Roblop has a heart of gold,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-39" data-t="39">playing sharp as a knife.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-41">0:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-41" data-t="41">Degrees are investigating,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-43" data-t="43">park and bringing shadows to life.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-46" data-t="46">Every week on a bugle,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-49" data-t="49">a fair voice has rang so true.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-51" data-t="51">A fair hobby to the nation,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-54" data-t="54">bringing the news to you.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-56">0:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-56" data-t="56">Rob and Dick keep on rolling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-59" data-t="59">through the thick and the thin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-61" data-t="61">with a fight that keeps burning that won't let the darkness</span> <span class="cue" id="t-65" data-t="65">win.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-66" data-t="66">On the blue</span> <span class="cue" id="t-69" data-t="69">all the lies,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-71">1:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-71" data-t="71">digging deep for the truth under those chemtrail</span> <span class="cue" id="t-75" data-t="75">skies.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-76" data-t="76">With the notebooks and the microphones,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-78" data-t="78">they fight the good fight,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-81" data-t="81">bringing light to the darkness,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-83" data-t="83">making wrong things right.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-87">1:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-87" data-t="87">They chase down a story</span> <span class="cue" id="t-90" data-t="90">no matter how far</span> <span class="cue" id="t-92" data-t="92">from the dusty back roads</span> <span class="cue" id="t-94" data-t="94">to the smoky</span> <span class="cue" id="t-96" data-t="96">bar.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-97" data-t="97">Rod has the facts.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-100">1:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-100" data-t="100">Dick has the flare.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-102" data-t="102">Together, they are a force</span> <span class="cue" id="t-105" data-t="105">of fearless</span> <span class="cue" id="t-106" data-t="106">pair.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-107" data-t="107">On the Google Weekly,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-109" data-t="109">they falls</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-123">2:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-123" data-t="123">darkness,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-124" data-t="124">making wrong things right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-127" data-t="127">When the world needed heroes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-129" data-t="129">they stepped up to the line.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-132" data-t="132">In the name of justice,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-134" data-t="134">they never did resign.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-137">2:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-137" data-t="137">With courage</span> <span class="cue" id="t-146" data-t="146">From courthouse</span> <span class="cue" id="t-148" data-t="148">steps</span> <span class="cue" id="t-149" data-t="149">to the county</span> <span class="cue" id="t-150" data-t="150">fair,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-151" data-t="151">They break a big story,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-154">2:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-154" data-t="154">and they'll always be there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-156" data-t="156">with the tip of a hat</span> <span class="cue" id="t-159" data-t="159">and an out of respect.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-161" data-t="161">A rock farmer and degreaser,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-164" data-t="164">but they never neglect</span> <span class="cue" id="t-180" data-t="180">good</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-181">3:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-181" data-t="181">fight.</span> <span class="cue" data-t="181">Bring love to you with darkness,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-184" data-t="184">making wrong things</span> <span class="cue" id="t-186" data-t="186">right. Now the world remembers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-189" data-t="189">those two brave souls</span> <span class="cue" id="t-191" data-t="191">who bring justice and truth</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-226">3:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-226" data-t="226">In a metaverse as harsh and cruel as reality,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-230" data-t="230">on a world similar to our own,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-232" data-t="232">so familiar</span> <span class="cue" id="t-233" data-t="233">that it almost feels like home,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-235" data-t="235">Exists a game,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-237" data-t="237">hardfork from the cosmic digital soup of Rust servers, nearly as old as Bitcoin itself,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-242">4:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-242" data-t="242">where no tutorial</span> <span class="cue" id="t-244" data-t="244">is exactly the same.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-246" data-t="246">A game called Orange Mart.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-249" data-t="249">In Orange Mart, as in life,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-252" data-t="252">you begin totally nude and your primary objective is simple,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-256" data-t="256">survive.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-257">4:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-257" data-t="257">But unlike the cloud world you spawned into in real life,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-260" data-t="260">Orange Mart enables you to blaze your own trail the only way Bitcoiners know how,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-265">4:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-265" data-t="265">through proof of work.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-267">4:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-267" data-t="267">Play your way through a world built on game theory where you must always transact</span> <span class="cue" id="t-272" data-t="272">adversarially.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-273" data-t="273">Use first principles thinking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-275" data-t="275">to earn Bitcoin and battle the temptations of PodCon.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-279" data-t="279">Engage in peer to peer commerce and build a digital community</span> <span class="cue" id="t-283" data-t="283">thermodynamically</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-284">4:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-284" data-t="284">sound</span> <span class="cue" id="t-285" data-t="285">and as compliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-286" data-t="286">or as non compliant</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-288">4:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-288" data-t="288">as you are. I can fly and swim with the ocean.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-291" data-t="291">Thank God so much.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-294">4:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-294" data-t="294">Do you have what it takes to survive?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-297" data-t="297">Welcome to the state of nature.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-301" data-t="301">Welcome to Orange.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-304">5:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-304" data-t="304">Last week on Bugle Weekly, Rod and Richard celebrate compliance pride month, a month of observation and recognition for all the hard working HR and legal departments at Bitcoin companies working hard to comply with the government.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-317" data-t="317">They discussed Donald Trump's noncompliance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-319" data-t="319">conviction in New York City as well as how government noncompliance is the direct result of Dennis Porter and Bitcoin Policy Institute lobbying politicians,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-328" data-t="328">as well as how politicians continue their noncompliance and attack Bitcoin in Congress.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-333" data-t="333">Speaking of Dennis Porter, Robin Roosch would explore price discovery regarding the value of a video of Dennis Porter orange peeling AOC in front of her fiance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-343" data-t="343">Lastly, Rod and Richard discussed quarantining noncompliant politicians in Washington DC as well as testing politicians for genetic predisposition</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-351">5:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-351" data-t="351">to noncompliance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-352" data-t="352">Well, that wraps up last week. We hope you enjoy this week. Week.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-361">6:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-361" data-t="361">You are listening to the Bugle Weekly, the most thermodynamically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-365" data-t="365">sound name in news.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-367" data-t="367">Here are your hosts, Rod Palmer and Dick Grieser.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-373">6:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-373" data-t="373">Alright, everyone. Welcome to The Bugle.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-377">6:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-377" data-t="377">How are you doing, Rod?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-379" data-t="379">Doing really good, Richard.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-381" data-t="381">And I just wanted to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-384" data-t="384">start by say I'd be remiss to not recognize</span> <span class="cue" id="t-388" data-t="388">the monumentous</span> <span class="cue" id="t-390" data-t="390">occasion</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-390">6:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" data-t="390">this week that happened to our neighbor to the south in Mexico.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-395" data-t="395">The first female</span> <span class="cue" id="t-396" data-t="396">resident of Mexico,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-398" data-t="398">Claudia Sheinbaum.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-401" data-t="401">Very,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-402" data-t="402">very Mexican name. Sounds like she's gonna be a great leader.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-407">6:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-407" data-t="407">Just so I just wanna congratulate the Mexican voters for this monumental</span> <span class="cue" id="t-410" data-t="410">achievement that they've</span> <span class="cue" id="t-413" data-t="413">they've</span> <span class="cue" data-t="413">voted for. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-416" data-t="416">the other thing that was in the news, I don't know if you saw this but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-419" data-t="419">37.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-422">7:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-422" data-t="422">The deadline came out. 37 politicians running for office in Mexico this cycle had been assassinated.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-428" data-t="428">And then the day the article came out, another mayoral candidate got assassinated. Did you see this?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-436">7:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-436" data-t="436">I did. I I I didn't read into it very deeply, but I did see the headlines.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-441">7:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-441" data-t="441">And it's crazy. And and I was in the real plaid, Telegram group chat. Some of the plaids on there responded.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-448" data-t="448">They posted a link to it, and they were saying, this is soap based.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-452" data-t="452">And I had to remind some of the plaids. I was like, it sounds based. You know, the politicians are afraid of of the voters. They're afraid of the citizens.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-461" data-t="461">And maybe this is a little too extreme in the in at one of the one of the pod cop media outlets, I can't remember which one it was, but they had a tweet. And they blamed the bugle for the thirty eighth assassination. They said that this was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-474" data-t="474">headquarters in Mexico</span> <span class="cue" id="t-476" data-t="476">seeking non compliance civil non compliance month too far. And, first of all, we have nothing to do with that assassination. We did not we did not sanction it. We don't know anybody who was behind it. So I wanted to dispel</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-488">8:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-488" data-t="488">that fud right away.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-490" data-t="490">But I you're back to the pledge, dude. I just want I reminded them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-495" data-t="495">You have to be careful what you wish for.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-497" data-t="497">Because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-499" data-t="499">yeah, there's a lot of non compliance in Mexico.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-502" data-t="502">But as a result,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-504">8:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-504" data-t="504">during COVID, you know, Mexicans did not have access</span> <span class="cue" id="t-508" data-t="508">to lockdowns. They did not have access to vaccine mandates.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-512" data-t="512">And that is a trade off you have to make if you're a little too non compliant with the government. Yeah. So</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-520">8:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-520" data-t="520">who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-521" data-t="521">has there been more politicians that have died than Boeing whistleblowers?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-525" data-t="525">Like, is there a race going on between The US and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-529" data-t="529">Mexico</span> <span class="cue" id="t-530" data-t="530">in assassinations right now?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-532">8:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-532" data-t="532">Yeah. I it's it seems like they're they're having their own tournament. You know, we we've got our compliance five month tournament going on on social media and we can talk about that later. But there has been a similar tournament between Boeing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-546" data-t="546">and the Mexican cartels who could kill the most political enemies.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-551" data-t="551">But, yeah, the Mexican the Mexican cartels are way ahead in that matter. I think it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-556" data-t="556">it's like 40 to three at this point.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-558">9:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-558" data-t="558">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-560" data-t="560">So, I mean, this is a pretty interesting search. So I don't know much about the the president,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-566" data-t="566">other than that she's female.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-570" data-t="570">By her name</span> <span class="cue" id="t-572" data-t="572">yeah. I have some questions because it doesn't sound like a Mexican name to me. You said it sounded very Mexican. What what did you say her name was?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-580">9:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-580" data-t="580">Claudia</span> <span class="cue" id="t-581" data-t="581">Sheinbaum.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-583">9:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-583" data-t="583">Sheinbaum.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-585">9:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-585" data-t="585">Oh. Oh. People people have noticed that's a different name. There's a lot of noticing going on, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-591" data-t="591">by all accounts, she she's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-594" data-t="594">born and raised in Mexico and and has been a political leader. She was the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-598" data-t="598">director of environmental</span> <span class="cue" id="t-599" data-t="599">policy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-600" data-t="600">under the president,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-602">10:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-602" data-t="602">in, like, 2006</span> <span class="cue" id="t-604" data-t="604">is what I read. And so she's risen above the ranks. She's very leftist, obviously.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-610" data-t="610">But, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-612" data-t="612">we'll see what her rule looks like. I mean, it's it's just I think we're just we're set in the moment celebrating her being the first female, but maybe we're getting a little too ahead of ourselves, and we don't know her politics very well yet. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-623">10:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-623" data-t="623">Well, we'll have to see. I mean, I I've been surprised that, Bitcoin magazine hasn't tweeted about her saying that she said something about Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-632" data-t="632">or that David Bailey is talking to her or anything like that. I mean, it's been very quiet election as far as, Right.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-638">10:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-638" data-t="638">Their Samson now I wonder if Samson now has any insight on this. So Samson, if you're listening to this, please let us know what you know about Claudia or excuse me, President Sheinbaum.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-649" data-t="649">But you did mention something important. You mentioned the the disparity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-653" data-t="653">between</span> <span class="cue" id="t-654" data-t="654">the assassinations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-655" data-t="655">of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-656" data-t="656">political candidates in Mexico versus whistleblowers.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-659">10:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-659" data-t="659">And I think that part of Mexico's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-662" data-t="662">lead in this tournament</span> <span class="cue" id="t-664" data-t="664">is comes down to the efficiency of their assassination markets where I don't think we have any on chain assassination markets in The United States anymore.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-673" data-t="673">But down in Mexico, they are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-676" data-t="676">they're trading assassination tokens on Solana and people who pull off these political assassinations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-681" data-t="681">are getting paid in meme coins on Solana</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-684">11:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-684" data-t="684">which</span> <span class="cue" id="t-685" data-t="685">I think is probably contributing to the rise in these events</span> <span class="cue" id="t-689" data-t="689">is probably related to this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-692" data-t="692">monetary incentive that people have to pull these off. So, I mean, that's a really interesting thing</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-698">11:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-698" data-t="698">to to think about is the CIA could really use</span> <span class="cue" id="t-703" data-t="703">these these types of noncompliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-705" data-t="705">assassination markets in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-708" data-t="708">in the global South to try and create coups and influence elections.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-713">11:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-713" data-t="713">Right. I mean, this could even this could extend into stablecoins that they could use Tether</span> <span class="cue" id="t-718" data-t="718">to to pay, assassins.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-721" data-t="721">It could become the assassin's money.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-723" data-t="723">But there has been discussion</span> <span class="cue" id="t-727" data-t="727">between builders,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-728" data-t="728">on different chains notably</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-730">12:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-730" data-t="730">Ethereum as well as even Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-734" data-t="734">where people have been wanting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-735" data-t="735">to bring these assassination markets back to Bitcoin, the Bitcoin maximalists do. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-741" data-t="741">unfortunately, it's not, well depending on who you talk to unfortunately, some people think fortunately.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-747" data-t="747">But depending on who you talk to, this is because fees are too high on chain and it may not be a coincidence</span> <span class="cue" id="t-754" data-t="754">that they are so high. It may be</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-757">12:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-757" data-t="757">that there's CIA influence</span> <span class="cue" id="t-760" data-t="760">kind of working against open source developers, working against,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-764" data-t="764">on chain assassination markets that are preventing this from coming to Bitcoin which is very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-770" data-t="770">disappointing to the maximalists.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-772">12:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-772" data-t="772">Yeah. I mean, Michael Saylor</span> <span class="cue" id="t-774" data-t="774">has been talking about how we need to slow down</span> <span class="cue" id="t-778" data-t="778">on the development side, how we need to stop funding. You know, I've been talking about how we should</span> <span class="cue" id="t-784" data-t="784">we should have stopped funding core devs a long time ago or at least not as much.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-788" data-t="788">Right. So he seems to be, like I I don't know where he'd rather have those funds directed, but it seems like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-795" data-t="795">he wants to keep Bitcoin compliant for the time being for it to get a foothold, and then we cannot comply. That seems to be a strategy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-805">13:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-805" data-t="805">But, yeah, I mean, these assassination markets are really, really interesting. So I think the important thing is is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-812" data-t="812">is just knowing the level of the noncompliance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-815" data-t="815">the CIA has. Like, when you're when you're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-818" data-t="818">gambling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-820" data-t="820">and drug cartels</span> <span class="cue" id="t-821" data-t="821">and, you know, which are sometimes affiliated with intelligence agencies, when there's overlap there,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-828">13:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-828" data-t="828">you know, you're really play placing a lot of trust into who the writers of the smart contract are deciding that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-835" data-t="835">that contract.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-838" data-t="838">And then, you know, it's a situation where the house, you know, oftentimes wins because they can,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-844" data-t="844">you know, really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-846" data-t="846">influence</span> <span class="cue" id="t-847" data-t="847">the terms of the contract and and readjust them in the middle and rug pull the user. So I would I would caution individuals to be very careful</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-856">14:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-856" data-t="856">Yeah. Engaging in activities like that. And in these cartels, they're they're sending a lot of fentanyl and other drugs to The United States and that requires, as you know, as we all know, requires money laundering. If there's money laundering involved, you can bet your bottom dollar, your bottom peso</span> <span class="cue" id="t-873" data-t="873">that the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-874" data-t="874">CIA and the Mexican version of the CIA, whatever those guys are, that they're involved. Yep. It's,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-882">14:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-882" data-t="882">it's pretty scary times down there. I mean, it it's it's kinda scary times here as well. I mean, we do you have anything else on this Mexico situation? I mean, it's pretty wild that, you know, 40 or so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-894" data-t="894">politicians have been assassinated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-896" data-t="896">via</span> <span class="cue" id="t-897" data-t="897">these assassination</span> <span class="cue" id="t-898" data-t="898">markets. You know, people are gambling on politicians' lives.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-902">15:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-902" data-t="902">It's not really being covered a whole lot. No. It's not. You think that this would be a much more you think this would be all over the news, especially with everybody coming across the border? Like, we don't know how many,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-913" data-t="913">meme coin smart contract creators are entering the country, and they are gonna be more incentivized when they get to The United States to try to bring this stuff to Bitcoin, to try to bring this stuff to Ethereum. And I think that a lot of the compliance industry is gonna be having their hands full trying to deal with it. I think down in Mexico, you've got this weird situation where you've got the cartels and the government, and there's this tug of war for who has controls and neither neither side is compliant. So people are not sure which which side to comply with. And it it really causes a lot of confusion and a lot of tragedy for people. We kinda get caught in the crossfire of noncompliance down there.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-952">15:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-952" data-t="952">Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it it's hard it's hard to know what to do,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-956">15:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-956" data-t="956">when people And people but people said that that that that's why they're so many</span> <span class="cue" id="t-961" data-t="961">immigrants trying to come to United States. The rules of compliance are much more clear here in The United States. However,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-969" data-t="969">that situation is getting murkier by the day,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-972" data-t="972">And some of them are some of them are staying back. Some of them are saying, I'm staying in El Salvador.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-977" data-t="977">This is much more compliant here. They've gotten rid of noncompliance.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-981">16:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-981" data-t="981">I feel safe here. I'm coming back from The United States. I'm not gonna stay here anymore. How many of the people coming across the border do you think just had big winnings on these,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-991" data-t="991">assassination</span> <span class="cue" id="t-992" data-t="992">markets, and they're trying to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-994" data-t="994">use their winnings to come across the border and and provide a better life for themselves?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-999">16:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-999" data-t="999">Yeah. I think that's I think that's probably the majority of them. I think they've they've won, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1005" data-t="1005">know, millions of pesos worth</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1008" data-t="1008">of of cash and meme coins, and they're coming here to start a new life. They're coming here to to start a, you know, new farming career, new agricultural career. And and it's unfortunately, some of them get bused or shipped up to New York City or Chicago, and it's cold, and there's no farming jobs. And they're they're wondering, like, how do I how do I convert</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1026" data-t="1026">my my meme coin winnings to cash?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1029" data-t="1029">And it's that's what's making them want to come and bring the stuff on Bitcoin because they they have Bitcoin ATMs that they can use, they can cash out on. But the fees are just so high that it eats up their pace of savings. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1042">17:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1042" data-t="1042">Man, that's just such a sad situation. I I really feel for, you know, people in tough situations like that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1049" data-t="1049">And, you know, I I just wish that Mexico</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1052" data-t="1052">could have the stability</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1054" data-t="1054">that they needed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1055" data-t="1055">so that people, you know, felt</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1057" data-t="1057">like there was a future there.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1059">17:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1059" data-t="1059">Yeah. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1061" data-t="1061">we some people are calling for a new NAFTA,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1064" data-t="1064">North American Free Token Agreement,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1066" data-t="1066">where these meme token,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1069" data-t="1069">beneficiaries</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1070" data-t="1070">can exchange</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1072">17:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1072" data-t="1072">their winnings,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1073" data-t="1073">frankly, with that, you know, without being taxed, without being terrorist,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1077" data-t="1077">in in any country in North America. But, you know, maybe Donald Trump will will take that up, and he'll talk about he's been very anti NAFTA in the past. But I think maybe this new NAFTA might cause him to flip flop on free trade and free tokens.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1091">18:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1091" data-t="1091">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1092" data-t="1092">Well, you know, hopefully, these assassination</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1094" data-t="1094">markets,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1097" data-t="1097">you know, turn to something good because, like, the whole theory on them that Jim Bell came up with is that it would take care of the noncompliant actors first.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1106">18:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1106" data-t="1106">But in this scenario, it seems like it's kinda reversed where the noncompliant actors are benefiting from them. Yeah. It's it's it's really comes down to game theory and more often than not, the non compliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1118" data-t="1118">end up being the cantillionaires</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1120" data-t="1120">and we have to reverse that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1122" data-t="1122">It's not a very thermodynamically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1124" data-t="1124">sound society.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1126">18:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1126" data-t="1126">Yeah. Well, it's probably because the markets are being built on Solana, which is a non thermodynamic.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1133">18:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1133" data-t="1133">Right. Or Yeah. That's the those are the consequences. Incentives matter.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1138">18:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1138" data-t="1138">They do.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1140" data-t="1140">Well, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1141" data-t="1141">know, it I think in, you know, probably, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1145" data-t="1145">a few years from now when the rest of the world has figured out that Bitcoin has won, we could probably see Vegas running assassination</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1151" data-t="1151">markets of some sort.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1154" data-t="1154">I think once the government sees that something like that could be taxed,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1160">19:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1160" data-t="1160">they're probably gonna</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1162">19:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1162" data-t="1162">approve it. Right, and you think about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1165" data-t="1165">FanDuel,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1166" data-t="1166">think about, like, citizen duel, where if you wanna challenge</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1169" data-t="1169">politician to a duel,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1171" data-t="1171">you can you can put out a bet on the on the on the assassination markets,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1177" data-t="1177">and they have to out they have to out raise you. They have to out they have to grow more engagement than you</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1183">19:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1183" data-t="1183">or else, you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1185">19:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1185" data-t="1185">the consequences could be dire. Yeah. I mean, it's really gonna change</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1190" data-t="1190">change the world as we see it once these become more developed and widespread.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1195">19:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1195" data-t="1195">It'll really it'll civil defense,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1198" data-t="1198">and civil attacks will really be on the rise</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1200" data-t="1200">if this kind of market gets a foothold in The United States.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1204">20:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1204" data-t="1204">Definitely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1207" data-t="1207">Well, on to the next topic. So we we talked a little we introduced Compliance Pride Month</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1213" data-t="1213">last week on the show.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1215" data-t="1215">And that has continued. So to celebrate Compliance Pride Month, we have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1221" data-t="1221">the bugle has conducted a tournament</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1226" data-t="1226">of 64 different Bitcoin companies,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1231">20:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1231" data-t="1231">competing to show who has the most compliance pride.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1235">20:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1235" data-t="1235">This is bad.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1236" data-t="1236">In an electric tournament, we had our fresh tournament back in March, the influencer tournament, which was obviously won by Yellow.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1244" data-t="1244">But this one is about clients and and recognizing the hard work that HR and legal departments and these big companies are doing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1251" data-t="1251">just to remain in compliance with with politicians in the government.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1256" data-t="1256">And honestly, I was a little there wasn't a lot of awareness</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1260" data-t="1260">for Compliance Pride Month until we brought and we till we reported about it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1264">21:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1264" data-t="1264">But even considering</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1267" data-t="1267">the lack of awareness,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1268" data-t="1268">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1269" data-t="1269">participation,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1270" data-t="1270">the pride, and the enthusiasm has honestly it's really surprised me. It's been really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1276" data-t="1276">encouraging to see.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1278">21:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1278" data-t="1278">Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it it's it's that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1282" data-t="1282">that has happened because so many people in the Bitcoin industry have just gotten to know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1289" data-t="1289">fanfare. Like, nobody ever applauds the compliance department.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1293" data-t="1293">But they're the first people you interact with when you use a lot of these products,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1299" data-t="1299">offered by the companies involved in the tournament.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1302" data-t="1302">Right. And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1304">21:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1304" data-t="1304">and it's just unfortunate. Like, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1306" data-t="1306">know, all these companies could not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1309" data-t="1309">they could not function without HR departments</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1311" data-t="1311">managing all the behaviors</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1314" data-t="1314">within the company. Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1316" data-t="1316">if you do not sign</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1319">21:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1319" data-t="1319">your employee agreement and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1321" data-t="1321">and employee handbook on a yearly basis, then,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1325" data-t="1325">you know, how are you gonna be complying with the government?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1329">22:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1329" data-t="1329">One thing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1330" data-t="1330">If you look at the final four, it can be it's a little bit surprising. Right? So the final four, we're down to the final four. Voting is taking place right now. So by the time you hear this, we'll be here the championship round. And the final four I know is between Fold, RoadApp,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1344" data-t="1344">and they're going against,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1346" data-t="1346">is it CoinDice?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1348" data-t="1348">Right? Yeah. And then you on the other on the other side, you've got the What Bitcoin Did podcast versus,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1354" data-t="1354">I think it's Marathon, the miners.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1358">22:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1358" data-t="1358">And people are people have been asking,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1360" data-t="1360">why is What Bitcoin? Why is a podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1363" data-t="1363">in this compliance tournament? It's like there's not really a Bitcoin company. But what people don't realize</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1368" data-t="1368">is that What Bitcoin did is the biggest podcast in the in the world, not just Bitcoin for anything.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1373" data-t="1373">And what what is the essence of that company? Or what is the essence of that enterprise?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1379" data-t="1379">It is people telling their stories, getting their stories out there so that they're it is broadcast to the world, so everybody can have that information.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1387">23:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1387" data-t="1387">And what you don't what I would not people don't realize is your first interaction</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1391" data-t="1391">with a Bitcoin company is you are telling them your story. Your comply their compliance departments are are learning about you, the customer. They're getting to know you. You're telling them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1400" data-t="1400">your Bitcoin story and, like, everything about you, and that is now going to all these servers around the world and is permanently there. You know, people will always have your story and know, you know, your interaction with that company and and and how much Bitcoin you bought. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1415" data-t="1415">what Bitcoin did kinda leads the way. It sets the example for all these other companies to how how do we know more about our customers? How do we let them tell their story? I mean, when when I am needing a product or service to use</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1430">23:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1430" data-t="1430">in the Bitcoin space, the first thing I do is I listen to Peter's podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1434" data-t="1434">to kinda get a catalog</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1437" data-t="1437">of all the compliant companies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1439" data-t="1439">Right. Of the moment.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1441" data-t="1441">Right. Exactly. And it's kinda frustrating, you know, how they rotate around sometimes because sometimes we'll go through, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1447" data-t="1447">the process of, you know, KYCing</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1450">24:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1450" data-t="1450">with like, I remember you remember when Kraken used to be a sponsor of Peter? Right. Right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1456" data-t="1456">And then, you know, when it changed over to Gemini,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1460" data-t="1460">I had to use Gemini or had the KYC again. And then when I changed over to Swan,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1466" data-t="1466">I had the KYC again.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1468" data-t="1468">And so, you know, there's a lot of I'm I'm still trying to figure out what to do. Like, how do I engage with Iron Energy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1476" data-t="1476">as an individual? I tried to, like, email</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1479">24:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1479" data-t="1479">their CFO,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1482" data-t="1482">like, my KYC information, but he hasn't responded.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1488">24:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1488" data-t="1488">Russel, let me just say about Iron, the legends at Iron Energy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1492">24:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1492" data-t="1492">Freaking massive legends. Yeah. I I mean, what do they do? They they do something with AI and mining and energy?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1500">24:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1500" data-t="1500">Yeah. It's it is it is so complex. This there's so much proof of work involved that it's just that's why they're legends. I mean, who else can do that?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1509">25:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1509" data-t="1509">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1510" data-t="1510">I mean, they don't they don't seem to be really getting any benefit from sponsoring the podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1516" data-t="1516">other than just, like, showing that they're legends because, like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1519">25:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1519" data-t="1519">you know, if you One of their one of the benefits they're getting is now the people who like to bet on on Bitcoin mining stocks</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1527" data-t="1527">are they are aware that they can go on their, you know, Schwab or their Robinhood, and they can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1532" data-t="1532">buy options and they can buy take leverage and buy their stock. And then as AI and and Bitcoin go up in value, well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1540" data-t="1540">obviously, iRing would go up as well because it has both of those things involved. So they can just massively</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1546" data-t="1546">profit,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1547" data-t="1547">due to this due to these option strategies, and they wouldn't be aware of it Is this even possible if it wasn't for their sponsorship?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1554">25:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1554" data-t="1554">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1555" data-t="1555">this is, like, a criticism I have of Peter is he doesn't have a full stack of sponsors.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1561" data-t="1561">Because, like, he's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1563" data-t="1563">okay, so he's shilling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1565" data-t="1565">a company's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1566" data-t="1566">stock,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1568">26:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1568" data-t="1568">but but he's not necessarily shilling the stock because that'd probably be illegal. He's he's just educating people about the company</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1576" data-t="1576">to bring, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1577" data-t="1577">brand name awareness around</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1580">26:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1580" data-t="1580">it. Right. He's letting you know that they're legends.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1582">26:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1582" data-t="1582">Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1584">26:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1584" data-t="1584">You could do that information what you want, but I'm betting on legends. I'll tell you that. But which which company, Peter,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1591">26:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1591" data-t="1591">do I use</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1593" data-t="1593">to buy the stock in the legends?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1597" data-t="1597">Which which</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1598" data-t="1598">broker do I KYC with? Is it Robinhood? Is it Schwab?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1603" data-t="1603">Is it Fidelity? You know, Fidelity probably sponsor you.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1607">26:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1607" data-t="1607">Right. That's a good point.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1609">26:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1609" data-t="1609">Yeah. No. Peter needs to work on this this time. Yeah. That's hard to think about.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1614" data-t="1614">I you know, I'm personally incredibly upset. I'm you know, maybe this is why I'm going along this this line of questioning. I'm I'm pretty salty that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1624" data-t="1624">what Bitcoin did beat Anchor Watch. I thought that was just like an unreasonable,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1629" data-t="1629">upset.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1631" data-t="1631">And my I was not emotionally prepared,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1634" data-t="1634">to watch that happen.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1636">27:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1636" data-t="1636">I think Yahoo Auctions do a better job of knowing their customer. I think if they knew their customer as well as Peter did,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1642" data-t="1642">they would have had the votes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1644" data-t="1644">I think that they would have been able to reach out to those customers and let them know how important this tournament is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1651" data-t="1651">and they would have had the votes. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1653" data-t="1653">maybe it's underdied, I think, you know, what Bitcoin does been around a little bit longer than Anchor Watch. And so they're definitely,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1661" data-t="1661">you know, one of those companies that are on the rise that are worth watching,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1665">27:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1665" data-t="1665">but they have a lot of work to do. Yeah. But, I mean, they have, like, the Anchor Watch</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1670" data-t="1670">I fur I forgot what that girl was that everybody's freaking out about, the NCAA</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1675" data-t="1675">women's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1677" data-t="1677">basketball. You know what I'm talking about? That girl from Iowa. Caitlin Clark. Caitlin Clark.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1681" data-t="1681">Yeah. So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1683" data-t="1683">what what's her name? Becca?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1685">28:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1685" data-t="1685">Becca Amelie.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1687">28:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1687" data-t="1687">Amelie?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1688" data-t="1688">Yeah. Becca Amelie. She's like the Caitlin Clark of Anchor Watch.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1693" data-t="1693">And I I guess it's only appropriate because the, you know, Iowa lost in the championship towards that Right. Against that other sports ball team.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1701">28:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1701" data-t="1701">Right. So it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1703" data-t="1703">it's probably</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1705" data-t="1705">more of a,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1707" data-t="1707">you know, what what's the the quote from back to the future? It's like, you you guys don't get it, but your kids will love</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1714" data-t="1714">it. And next generation, you know, class of 2024,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1717" data-t="1717">they'll they'll probably appreciate</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1719">28:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1719" data-t="1719">Anchor Watch and Becca a lot more than we do today. I think we take too much for granted right now. Yeah. I mean, well, this could be the moment, you know, where</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1729">28:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1729" data-t="1729">they they did well. I mean, getting to the Elite Eight is no,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1733" data-t="1733">no small feat. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1735" data-t="1735">good job to to Anchor Watch and and the team over there and and Becca.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1740" data-t="1740">Keep it up. Your compliance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1742" data-t="1742">is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1743" data-t="1743">is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1744">29:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1744" data-t="1744">noticed. It's a Bitcoin standard of compliance.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1746">29:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1746" data-t="1746">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1748" data-t="1748">Nobody complies harder.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1751" data-t="1751">But, yeah, Marathon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1753" data-t="1753">is gonna be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1755" data-t="1755">they're they're currently</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1756" data-t="1756">down to what Bitcoin did in the in the current polls. We're recording Sunday</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1761">29:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1761" data-t="1761">afternoon, evening.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1765" data-t="1765">Fold is, you know, currently leading Coinbase,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1770" data-t="1770">which isn't that surprising because Coinbase didn't really engage with the contest at all. And they've been</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1777">29:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1777" data-t="1777">they've been really leading</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1779" data-t="1779">the charge from the Bitcoin community in terms of civil noncompliance. They've been suing the SEC. They've been fighting them in court.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1788" data-t="1788">So right now,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1790" data-t="1790">despite</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1791" data-t="1791">all the groundwork they've laid for compliance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1793" data-t="1793">for the past ten years, decade plus,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1797">29:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1797" data-t="1797">They've been leading the noncompliance,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1799" data-t="1799">strike</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1800" data-t="1800">against the government. So I think that at this point in time,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1805" data-t="1805">even though</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1806" data-t="1806">the size and the backing and the the funding,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1809" data-t="1809">the disparity is enormous.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1811">30:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1811" data-t="1811">Feud is just outclassing them with the fundamentals. And when the and when it comes to tournament time, fundamentals do matter. Yeah. I mean, I guess that's a good point. I I just would have figured, you know, the reason why Coinbase hasn't really shown up to the tournament is because they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1826" data-t="1826">they feel like their level of compliance is significantly higher than</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1834" data-t="1834">than their competitor fold.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1836" data-t="1836">They must have</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1837">30:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1837" data-t="1837">Right. I think part of it as well is it's they may not be really aware of how big of a deal this tournament is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1846" data-t="1846">due to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1847" data-t="1847">their inability</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1848" data-t="1848">to parse the signal from the noise. They've got so much</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1852" data-t="1852">civil attacks going on in their mentions,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1855" data-t="1855">on social media that I don't know if the signal which is would, you know, be notifications that they've been tagged by the bugle or even, you know, making it to</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1864">31:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1864" data-t="1864">the proper credentialed authorities to let them know that they should interact.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1868">31:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1868" data-t="1868">Mhmm.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1869" data-t="1869">Yeah. And it might be I think there's there might be some internal company</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1874" data-t="1874">rules to only engage with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1877" data-t="1877">crypto related media platforms that have the word coin in it. So they're probably, like, exclusively working with Cointelegraph and CoinDesk.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1886">31:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1886" data-t="1886">Right. And Chain as well. Chainalysis.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1888">31:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1888" data-t="1888">Is Chainalysis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1889" data-t="1889">a media company?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1891">31:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1891" data-t="1891">We got a blog. So they do have a blog. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1895">31:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1895" data-t="1895">Okay. So I mean, this brings a I'm getting out of order of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1899" data-t="1899">our agenda. But this gets</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1902" data-t="1902">into the question of what is a Bitcoin company.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1907" data-t="1907">And Can you just identify as a Bitcoin company? Is that how it works? Is it like, you know, biology? I mean, it's that's something that, like, I really struggled with. So I brought up the the question before doing this tournament because I was having</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1919" data-t="1919">I was having trouble figuring out who to include</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1923" data-t="1923">on the list.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1925">32:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1925" data-t="1925">And I think, you know, at the end of the day, like, my opinion on what a Bitcoin company is is just whatever company identifies with it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1934" data-t="1934">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1935" data-t="1935">an example of this is Ben Jossman was really upset that that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1940" data-t="1940">Pony Lane didn't have an opportunity to compete in the tournament. That's tough. I mean,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1946">32:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1946" data-t="1946">he identifies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1947" data-t="1947">his wine company as a Bitcoin company, but, you know, is it more about the wine or is it more about the sets?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1955" data-t="1955">I think that he, you know, I think that he deserves to be included. Again,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1959" data-t="1959">a very a very nascent, very new company. I I'm sure by this time next year,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1966" data-t="1966">he could be included. It's gonna be a lot of companies, I think, especially in the mining</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1971" data-t="1971">bracket that are just not gonna be around in one year.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1974">32:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1974" data-t="1974">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1976" data-t="1976">Yeah. And and so, you know, it it kinda comes down so if the way that a Bitcoin company</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1984" data-t="1984">becomes a Bitcoin company, if it's dependent on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1988" data-t="1988">the company self identifying as one,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1991" data-t="1991">then it really comes down to the ownership structure of the companies. And there needs to be a consensus</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1997" data-t="1997">amongst the shareholders</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2000">33:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2000" data-t="2000">to determine whether they're a Bitcoin company, a crypto company,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2004" data-t="2004">or something else entirely.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2006">33:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2006" data-t="2006">And, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2007" data-t="2007">some people would take take exception with the idea. You can just identify</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2011" data-t="2011">as one of these companies, but I disagree with that because if you're going to well, I guess it's something to think about. Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2017" data-t="2017">are you gonna gain more benefit from identifying</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2020" data-t="2020">as a as a Bitcoin company</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2022" data-t="2022">versus the amount of extra clients that's gonna be required of you</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2027">33:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2027" data-t="2027">once you identify. So you have to look at the incentives and see why is this company</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2033" data-t="2033">identifying</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2036" data-t="2036">as Bitcoin when it comes with all this extra compliance? Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2039" data-t="2039">you know, everybody's different. Everybody's got a different reason why. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2044">34:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2044" data-t="2044">Yeah. I mean, I think one of the one of the problems that has happened, you know, when I look at this list is I I highly doubt that the shareholders have come have come to a consensus</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2056" data-t="2056">around whether the company is a Bitcoin company or not. And I think the marketing teams</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2062" data-t="2062">are kind of running with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2066" data-t="2066">just running with the the term</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2069" data-t="2069">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2070" data-t="2070">to gain favor.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2071">34:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2071" data-t="2071">Those compliance departments are gonna be pretty upset with them when they find out what the consequences are. Well, this is one of the reasons why it's so important to have each, you know, a vibrant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2081" data-t="2081">and assertive HR department. Like, you want those people to have teeth</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2087" data-t="2087">to be able to make sure that, you know, people are following the right steps. So, you know, for for startups that are out there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2095" data-t="2095">wow. I didn't did you realize we didn't even include</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2099" data-t="2099">the Bitcoin company on this tournament?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2102">35:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2102" data-t="2102">Stupid. How could we have how could we have missed that? Wow. It was right silence.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2107" data-t="2107">But I also make a really good point.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2110" data-t="2110">I think for Ben, for P and E Lanes to be included next year,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2114" data-t="2114">they're gonna need one thing that they don't have today, which is an HR department. And if you include</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2120" data-t="2120">an HR department at P and E lanes, you will be eligible for the draft. Otherwise,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2125" data-t="2125">then how can we trust</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2126">35:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2126" data-t="2126">that your compliance is is meeting the standard? Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2130">35:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2130" data-t="2130">Yeah. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2132" data-t="2132">if you don't even hire a single compliance influencer at your company, then</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2137" data-t="2137">it's kinda difficult to justify</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2139" data-t="2139">putting you on the list. But I'm sure there's some examples of this. Like, we know that Jessica</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2144" data-t="2144">over at AMBOSS is repping compliance harder than everybody else, and that's why AMBOSS is on there.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2152">35:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2152" data-t="2152">Yeah. Surprised to see them go down so early.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2156">35:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2156" data-t="2156">I was surprised too and and to be defeated by Voltage, I I really wonder what,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2161" data-t="2161">you know, the voters were thinking. It's gonna be important to do some good good quality exit polls</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2167" data-t="2167">during this tournament.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2168">36:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2168" data-t="2168">Yeah. It it could be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2170" data-t="2170">it like, a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2172" data-t="2172">this is not a catch point too. I don't I I I can't think of what I'm looking for. But if you spend too much time on compliance and not enough time on marketing, you might not do really well in these these tournaments.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2182">36:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2182" data-t="2182">Mhmm.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2183" data-t="2183">Well, I mean, there's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2185" data-t="2185">there's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2186" data-t="2186">like, kind of a true factor when you so there's three things that are really important to running a successful company. There's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2193" data-t="2193">there's compliance,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2195" data-t="2195">there's marketing, and then there's building.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2198">36:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2198" data-t="2198">And all three of those three things need to have the right amount</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2203" data-t="2203">of energy dedicated to each one for there to be proper balance. And if there isn't, things will get super out of whack.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2209" data-t="2209">And I think that's one of the challenges is just, you know, running an organization is to find</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2216" data-t="2216">the correct give or take to give in between these three very important things. And, you know, sometimes, like, during compliance month,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2223" data-t="2223">it seems like it's really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2224" data-t="2224">a good time to dial back on building and just focus on marketing and complying.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2230">37:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2230" data-t="2230">Right. And this and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2232" data-t="2232">this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2233" data-t="2233">emphasizes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2234" data-t="2234">the the need for a business bachelor's degree if you're gonna be an entrepreneur. I mean, anybody technically could start a company. If you don't have a bachelor's degree, you're not gonna take those engineering and physics classes to learn about thermodynamics.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2247" data-t="2247">It's gonna be very difficult for your company to be thermodynamically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2250" data-t="2250">sound if you don't even understand what that word means. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2255">37:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2255" data-t="2255">100%.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2256" data-t="2256">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2258" data-t="2258">to go on but, yeah, I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2261" data-t="2261">I'll finish on what you just said and respond to it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2264" data-t="2264">If you don't know what the word thermodynamics</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2267" data-t="2267">means, then you probably haven't listened to enough Michael Sailor yet.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2271">37:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2271" data-t="2271">So that's that's the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2274" data-t="2274">that's the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2275" data-t="2275">I don't know. It's kind of a a test that you can run on people.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2281" data-t="2281">Right. So when when you're when you're at,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2284" data-t="2284">you know, a Bitcoin event and you go to a meetup</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2286" data-t="2286">and you're trying to gauge, you know, how knowledgeable</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2290">38:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2290" data-t="2290">somebody is on the topic,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2292" data-t="2292">you know, don't don't ask</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2294" data-t="2294">if people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2295" data-t="2295">have accounts on bitcointalk.org</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2297" data-t="2297">or when they got into Bitcoin, ask them to define thermodynamics.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2302" data-t="2302">And if they</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2304">38:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2304" data-t="2304">explain things like Michael Saylor does, then you know that they put in the work in.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2309">38:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2309" data-t="2309">Exactly. And it's go back to sports again. If somebody can't do a layup,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2314" data-t="2314">you can't trust them to shoot three pointers. It's just that simple. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2320" data-t="2320">Hey, fellow plebs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2321" data-t="2321">I wanna tell you about the Comply clothing line. The conference season is really heating up this summer and you need cool swag to wear. The Bugle has you covered. We are partnering with OrangeLabel to bring you the best in quality t shirts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2334" data-t="2334">hats, and women's swimsuits.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2336" data-t="2336">By purchasing our clothing, you can help redefine the conversation around compliance</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2341">39:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2341" data-t="2341">while also supporting real journalism.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2344" data-t="2344">You have the opportunity to be the pleb that rocks the coolest merch, which will definitely turn heads.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2350" data-t="2350">Going to the conference looking to find a trad wife?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2352" data-t="2352">Boost your chances of finding her by heading over to the website orangelabel.co</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2357" data-t="2357">or click the link in the episode show notes to check out the Comply clothing line today.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2364">39:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2364" data-t="2364">Okay. Next topic,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2365" data-t="2365">compliance tournament has been fun. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2369" data-t="2369">yeah. So this is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2371" data-t="2371">this is some, you know, really empowering news that so this is a PSA to all the Bitcoin podcasters out there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2379" data-t="2379">We</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2380" data-t="2380">we have one. Bitcoin has won,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2383">39:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2383" data-t="2383">and history is written by the victors.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2386" data-t="2386">And because we are the victors, that means that we are currently the ones writing history. And so the Bitcoin podcasters,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2394" data-t="2394">all the podcasts we're doing right now are gonna be determining</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2398" data-t="2398">the curriculum</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2399" data-t="2399">in schools</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2401" data-t="2401">for decades to come. Right. And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2404">40:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2404" data-t="2404">it's very easy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2406" data-t="2406">to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2408" data-t="2408">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2410" data-t="2410">lose sight of the fact</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2414" data-t="2414">that it seems like Bitcoin hasn't already won. Everybody's living in the past. They're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2418" data-t="2418">referring to history books. They're referring to headlines that were written in the past.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2423">40:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2423" data-t="2423">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2424" data-t="2424">it seems like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2426" data-t="2426">depending on, you know, where you get your news, if you don't get your news from the bugle, for example, it may seem like Bitcoin hasn't already won.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2434" data-t="2434">Oh, it's up to us. It's up to the podcasters. It's up to the news, the journalist, the credential journalists to write the news, to blog the news, to tweet the news. Because when people look back</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2446" data-t="2446">whether it's an hour from now,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2448" data-t="2448">a day from now, a week from now, or ten years from now, they're gonna go back and they're gonna find all the book, all the Bitcoin books, all the podcasts, all the tweets and they're gonna use that to determine what happened, who won,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2460">41:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2460" data-t="2460">which side won which battle. And if all of that if all of that information and there's just terabytes and terabytes of data that is getting put out there every day, if it's all</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2471" data-t="2471">information saying and reporting the fact that Bitcoin has already won,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2476" data-t="2476">That's how people in the future will know what is happening. That's how they will gauge</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2482" data-t="2482">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2483" data-t="2483">and and and find their their orientation,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2485" data-t="2485">how they navigate reality</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2487">41:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2487" data-t="2487">by looking at the past. And we're the ones writing the past. And this is why you need journalists and Bitcoin authors writing books and making podcasts</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2496">41:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2496" data-t="2496">to inform the future. One of one of the really interesting things that I was just thinking about as you were talking is just just how much warfare has changed over the years.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2505" data-t="2505">And, you know, when we look at</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2507" data-t="2507">Bitcoin going from zero to the the point</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2511" data-t="2511">that it's at right now, there's been a lot of hard fought battles.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2515" data-t="2515">You know, when you when you think about the revolutionary war, there's gonna be all these,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2520" data-t="2520">you know, different battles like, you know, the Battle of Saratoga,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2525">42:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2525" data-t="2525">that are referenced,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2527" data-t="2527">in history books, and they're gonna be compared</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2530" data-t="2530">against</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2531" data-t="2531">Bitcoin sign guy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2534" data-t="2534">flashing the buy Bitcoin sign behind Janet Yellen. Like, that was our battle of Saratoga.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2540" data-t="2540">That was our battle of Bunker Hill.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2543">42:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2543" data-t="2543">When?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2545">42:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2545" data-t="2545">Well, it was in the past used to be fought with boats and bombs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2548" data-t="2548">and and armies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2549" data-t="2549">but now wars fought with information.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2552" data-t="2552">And that is why, and I've been very consistent about this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2556" data-t="2556">though we just celebrated D Day, the anniversary of D Day a few days ago. And President of The United States, he he pooped his pants on stage in France to celebrate.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2565" data-t="2565">And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2566">42:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2566" data-t="2566">but the the heroes that stormed the beaches of Normandy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2571" data-t="2571">that that's who we are today. We are the modern version of those GI heroes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2576" data-t="2576">We are the ones fighting the information war. Right? You know, the podcasters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2581" data-t="2581">and the journalists. Like, that's why I believe and I've said this multiple times</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2585" data-t="2585">that there should be, like, veterans discounts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2588" data-t="2588">We should be vilified for veterans,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2592">43:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2592" data-t="2592">benefits, veterans healthcare,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2594" data-t="2594">because we are the veterans of the modern</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2597">43:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2597" data-t="2597">war age. Yeah. Yeah. So when you when you think of the Fiat people that are still fighting the war, so there's all these stories</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2605" data-t="2605">of Japanese soldiers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2607" data-t="2607">that fought for decades after the war already ended because they didn't have the information about,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2614" data-t="2614">you know, the emperor surrendering.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2616">43:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2616" data-t="2616">Too many credentialed journalists were killed in war for them to get the news done.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2621">43:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2621" data-t="2621">Yeah. Well, they they also didn't have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2624" data-t="2624">the communication,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2625" data-t="2625">you know, methods that we have today.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2628" data-t="2628">Yeah. You could listen to a a podcast on the foxhole. Yeah. So it you know, the way that we can let these stranded fiat maximalists that have not heard the news yet know that they can lay down their arms and surrender and join us.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2645" data-t="2645">The best way to let them know is, you know, right now as you're listening and to, like, stop what you're doing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2651" data-t="2651">go to Twitter,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2653">44:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2653" data-t="2653">and post some inspirational</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2655" data-t="2655">tweet about Bitcoin having already won. Or or you could go to Stacker News or go to Noster, whichever your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2661" data-t="2661">your preferred,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2665" data-t="2665">spot to hang out is Yeah. Your preferred pronouns. And let let the people know.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2669" data-t="2669">Let the people know that Bitcoin has already won because there's a lot of people that are really resistant to this idea.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2675" data-t="2675">And, like, one of my one of my fears is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2678">44:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2678" data-t="2678">is that instead of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2680" data-t="2680">accepting our victory,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2683" data-t="2683">what's gonna happen is a lot of Bitcoiners are gonna try and exploit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2688" data-t="2688">this idea of war</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2690" data-t="2690">and create kind of an industrial complex, a a a war industrial complex in the Bitcoin ecosystem system where they keep on fighting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2699" data-t="2699">invisible</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2700">45:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2700" data-t="2700">enemies in the same way the U. S. Military did following World War II. Yeah, that's a huge risk. That's a huge risk.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2707">45:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2707" data-t="2707">I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2709" data-t="2709">part of reporting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2710" data-t="2710">that Bitcoin has already won kind of helps</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2714" data-t="2714">limit this is how Bitcoin limits war. It limits this warfare in this industrial complex and it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2721" data-t="2721">it's very similar to, like, religious people. Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2725" data-t="2725">obviously, Christianity won</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2727">45:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2727" data-t="2727">thousands of years ago, and everybody kind of knows it for the most part. There's some, you know, heretics,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2733" data-t="2733">but people still go to, you know, their church every Sunday night, every Sunday, every Wednesday.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2740" data-t="2740">It's repeatable. They they read the same verses over and over again. It's like reading the same tweets over and over. It's like people every morning they get on Twitter and they say good morning and they say go fuck yourself or they say something like, you know, some message should go with the GM.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2752" data-t="2752">And that's what you have to do like, good morning. Bitcoin has already won.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2756" data-t="2756">Have something inspirational every single day. It's a reminder. It's a it's a ritual that goes into the culture and embeds itself and makes itself</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2765" data-t="2765">very self inherent,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2767">46:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2767" data-t="2767">self evident.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2769">46:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2769" data-t="2769">Mhmm. And, like, you know, part of the reason</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2771" data-t="2771">I think it's important to know this too is people just know they need to know how to carry themselves right now. They need to act like winners</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2779" data-t="2779">instead of losers. And there's a lot of people that are acting like</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2782">46:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2782" data-t="2782">losers. Character that is unbecoming of a winner is is detrimental to the cause.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2788">46:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2788" data-t="2788">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2789" data-t="2789">I mean, it it all at the end of the day,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2793" data-t="2793">what it comes down to is people just underestimate the power of Dennis Porter. To their own detriment.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2799" data-t="2799">Yeah. To their own extreme detriment.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2802" data-t="2802">And they're just,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2804" data-t="2804">you know, too adversarial</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2806">46:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2806" data-t="2806">minded.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2807" data-t="2807">And, like, right now is you you can stop being adversarially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2811" data-t="2811">minded. Like, you think it's good to, like, be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2813" data-t="2813">a little bit. Like, you know, tone it down from, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2816" data-t="2816">80 to 90 to 99%</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2819" data-t="2819">down to, like, 30%. So only be, like, 30%,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2823">47:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2823" data-t="2823">adversarially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2824" data-t="2824">minded and, you know, maybe then we can start getting these these updates to the network that, you know, Twitter spaces thinks are, necessary.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2833">47:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2833" data-t="2833">Exactly. Speaking of of adversarial transacting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2837" data-t="2837">there's some big news about everybody's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2841" data-t="2841">favorite</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2841">military Bitcoiner, Spaceboy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2844" data-t="2844">Jason Lowry.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2845" data-t="2845">Can you share with listeners, you know, what the big what the big development is with with JP?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2852">47:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2852" data-t="2852">Yeah. I mean, but he has been engaged</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2857" data-t="2857">with the Trump</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2859" data-t="2859">campaign</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2860" data-t="2860">to secure his position</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2862" data-t="2862">in their cabinet as the treasury</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2865" data-t="2865">secretary,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2866">47:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2866" data-t="2866">which</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2868" data-t="2868">is pretty</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2869">47:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2869" data-t="2869">big. Yeah. Addie, listen. There's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2872" data-t="2872">I think it's important not to not to engage in hero worship.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2876" data-t="2876">And sometimes people like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2878" data-t="2878">you know, on Twitter, Stoney Stoney Bitzen. He's been kind of a simp for Jason Lowry in the past and people have been kind of critical of him for that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2886" data-t="2886">But, there's a little little bit of edge in his face with this one. It looks like Jason Lowry is for real and he's going to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2893" data-t="2893">and I I don't know if this is official policy</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2896">48:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2896" data-t="2896">or it's, David Bailey's idea but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2900" data-t="2900">one of the things Jason's trying to do is as treasury secretary</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2904" data-t="2904">is to incorporate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2906" data-t="2906">regulation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2907" data-t="2907">of of taxes using the IRS</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2910" data-t="2910">to regulate Bitcoin mining fees and transaction fees. Because</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2915">48:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2915" data-t="2915">under this new regime,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2918" data-t="2918">Proof of work, the ash rate that's going to be a part of America's national defense. And, of course,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2924" data-t="2924">because Bitcoin is already one of the most powerful nation who's gonna be using this as their reserve currency.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2929" data-t="2929">We're gonna need to protect this this this very fragile protocol.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2934" data-t="2934">And the miners, especially Marathon,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2937" data-t="2937">CleanSpark, Riot and and many others based here in The United States.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2941">49:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2941" data-t="2941">They're they're going to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2943" data-t="2943">taking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2944" data-t="2944">very, you know, swift control. It looks like under this policy over the the defense military agencies, the branches of the military,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2952" data-t="2952">like the army, the marines, the navy, the air force. So it's a very ambitious</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2958" data-t="2958">endeavor, but I I mean, this guy wrote an entire book about war</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2962" data-t="2962">in like three or four months. So I mean, if anybody can do it, he can.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2967">49:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2967" data-t="2967">Yeah. I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2969" data-t="2969">I could see this administration doing some pretty interesting stuff.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2973" data-t="2973">I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2974" data-t="2974">imagine I know a lot of people on the Republican side of things, they're they're all for this idea of privatizing Social Security,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2982" data-t="2982">which is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2984" data-t="2984">a topic the Democrats run on</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2986">49:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2986" data-t="2986">quite a bit. But imagine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2988" data-t="2988">if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2989" data-t="2989">the US government privatized Social Security and gave it to a company like MicroStrategy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2995" data-t="2995">So all these all these people would be compelled to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2998" data-t="2998">to pay MicroStrategy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3000" data-t="3000">dollars,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3002">50:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3002" data-t="3002">which then MicroStrategy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3003" data-t="3003">converts to Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3005" data-t="3005">and holds for them until</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3007" data-t="3007">they retire and then does payout.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3010">50:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3010" data-t="3010">Yeah. I mean, this is what the blueprint for this is being built</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3014" data-t="3014">by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3015" data-t="3015">David Bailey and Dylan LeClaire.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3018" data-t="3018">They're they're converting all these publicly traded companies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3021" data-t="3021">treasuries,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3022" data-t="3022">to Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3023">50:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3023" data-t="3023">And I think that we need a lot more of this type of investment</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3027" data-t="3027">in this strategy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3029" data-t="3029">if we're gonna use if we're gonna replace</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3031" data-t="3031">Social Security</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3032" data-t="3032">with shares of MicroStrategy and shares in MetaPlanet. But it's if any, it it is maybe the only way we keep the system solved.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3040">50:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3040" data-t="3040">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3041" data-t="3041">Well, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3043" data-t="3043">I'm just glad that whatever this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3046" data-t="3046">plan that Lowry has up his sleeve,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3048" data-t="3048">because it seems like he has big things planned,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3052" data-t="3052">they're probably gonna use</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3054">50:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3054" data-t="3054">Coinbase as the custodian. And Coinbase is, you know, a good choice. They made it to the final four of the compliance pride tournament.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3064" data-t="3064">That's pretty reputable.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3066">51:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3066" data-t="3066">Looking at looking at the business strategy moving forward with with Fold, I mean, I don't see any reason why we couldn't mail Fold cards to every senior citizen in The United States</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3076" data-t="3076">and pay</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3078" data-t="3078">their Social Security payouts straight to their Fold card.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3081" data-t="3081">Maybe it wouldn't be Coinbase. Maybe it'll be Fold.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3084">51:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3084" data-t="3084">Yeah. So when when the the seniors go to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3090" data-t="3090">the casino to spend their Social Security</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3093" data-t="3093">checks</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3094" data-t="3094">on slots, they're gonna be getting Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3098" data-t="3098">rewards back for that spend.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3101">51:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3101" data-t="3101">That's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3102" data-t="3102">that really change that changes. That puts the power</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3105" data-t="3105">of senior citizens' future in their hands back in their hands. A 100%.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3110">51:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3110" data-t="3110">Yeah. So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3112" data-t="3112">I mean, this is a big shift for The United States, having a treasury secretary.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3118" data-t="3118">This</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3119" data-t="3119">Lowry's gonna be the first guy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3121" data-t="3121">sitting in that position since Mnuchin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3124" data-t="3124">you know, years ago,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3126">52:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3126" data-t="3126">that has the ability to actually operate a smartphone.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3130" data-t="3130">I think Yellen Yellen's 76 years old. I don't think she can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3135" data-t="3135">figure out Gmail on her iPhone very well.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3139">52:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3139" data-t="3139">To shout out, a guy who claimed the term, mister Greg Foss. This will be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3144" data-t="3144">the biggest risk chair that anybody has sat on,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3148">52:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3148" data-t="3148">especially a Bitcoiner, maybe ever? Well, I'm starting to get really tired. I think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3153" data-t="3153">he'd like 20 more cigarettes and boost me so I could buy some more cigarettes, guys. Listen,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3158" data-t="3158">I need some coffee too.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3161" data-t="3161">So I went on the tangent we went on the tangent of what the Bitcoin company is. I guess the next segment is to go through the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3168" data-t="3168">some of the stories we did this week and then get over the fountain boost. So maybe we should just condense it to one.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3175" data-t="3175">Do you wanna go through your, 10 best excuses to give legal and HR departments for compliance violations?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3181">53:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3181" data-t="3181">Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. I put together an article that came out this week. The title is 10 best excuses to give legal and HR departments for compliance violations,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3190" data-t="3190">and it's a pretty short article. So I'll just read through that right now and list the 10. So, you know, it happens to everyone. Sometimes despite your best efforts, you end up violating one of your companies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3200" data-t="3200">your Bitcoin company's compliance policies.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3203" data-t="3203">But the grace of God is vast. The grace of your HR department may not be.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3207" data-t="3207">So coming up with good excuses for compliant violations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3210" data-t="3210">can be important.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3212">53:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3212" data-t="3212">So we live here to provide you with those 10. And the first of the 10 is I was trying to be extra productive, so I turned off my VPN.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3219" data-t="3219">Everybody knows sometimes you turn on your VPN, it slows down your your Internet speed. It makes it hard to use Google, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3226" data-t="3226">having your VPN on is important if it's part of your company's compliance and privacy. It depends on the company you work for, but don't do it if it's supposed to be odd. Number two,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3236" data-t="3236">I wanted to provide exceptional customer service. Sometimes we take KYC a little too far. We end up looking,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3242" data-t="3242">up privileged customer data to give them top notch</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3246" data-t="3246">customer service.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3247">54:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3247" data-t="3247">But you can't do that. However,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3250" data-t="3250">that name pressure manager.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3253" data-t="3253">Some people might say, I just want to use my own node to verify not trust. Your node is great for you, but you have to know which node your company is using and which version that's on. Make sure it's compliant with all of the consensus rules that your company</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3267" data-t="3267">policy, the frequently asked questions section,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3269" data-t="3269">say that it does. You have to make sure you use the right node, but if you need to if you need an excuse,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3275" data-t="3275">people will usually buy them.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3277">54:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3277" data-t="3277">You know, I was making Bitcoin memes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3280" data-t="3280">Did you know the ability to create</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3282" data-t="3282">great bank memes is good for Bitcoin?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3285" data-t="3285">Ease that one.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3286" data-t="3286">I had to own some more pointers on X.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3289" data-t="3289">Well, doing some Satoshis work. Have fun staying four, if you don't agree with this, thesis that we've already won.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3296">54:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3296" data-t="3296">Two factor authentication slows me down. That's true. If it's not, if it's not inconvenient, it's not secure, but it does</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3303" data-t="3303">hamper customer service experiences.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3306" data-t="3306">Number seven, just stop ordinals with denial of servicing attacking the servers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3312" data-t="3312">Something you can do about that one.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3314" data-t="3314">That's a great excuse. Sometimes the protesters or cyber attackers will make things difficult.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3319" data-t="3319">Number eight,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3320">55:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3320" data-t="3320">us transacting adversarially.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3323" data-t="3323">Acting with ink compliance a 100% of the time goes against game theory after all.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3327" data-t="3327">Number nine, I wanted to make sure the product was thermodynamically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3331" data-t="3331">sound.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3332" data-t="3332">Again, your your manager probably won't even know what that means so that'll be they'll buy you some time if nothing else.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3339" data-t="3339">Number 10, Bitcoin is pumping. Everybody can understand that one. When when we're expanding NGU, nobody's focusing at work so</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3347">55:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3347" data-t="3347">use that one, but, you know, it depends on Bitcoin. It actually actually need pumping. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3352" data-t="3352">Feel free to use any of those excuses about if you're in trouble for a compliance violation, and they may get you out of a a write up or you get you out of trouble. Yeah. I</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3361">56:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3361" data-t="3361">I have a comment on number 10. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3364" data-t="3364">I think it's important, like, if you're in really hot water to to take credit for the reason why Bitcoin is pumping and say, Bitcoin's pumping because I was schooling no coiners or because I was making dank memes.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3376">56:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3376" data-t="3376">Yeah. Put the put put some of those excuses together into one excuse and that'll it'll be more powerful.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3382">56:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3382" data-t="3382">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3384" data-t="3384">Or another maybe another good one is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3388" data-t="3388">to put on there is that you're liking and amplifying Satoshi Action Fund's tweets.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3393">56:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3393" data-t="3393">That one's out of agreement for sure.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3395">56:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3395" data-t="3395">Yeah. I mean, there's so many there's so this is such a good primer to get started with. There's so many</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3402" data-t="3402">get out of jail free cards. You know, this is really gonna help</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3406" data-t="3406">people navigating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3408" data-t="3408">the Bitcoin industry. And I think it's gonna be important for us to do more articles like this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3413" data-t="3413">in the future. Like, we need to we need to have,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3416" data-t="3416">like, the bugle's playbook</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3420">56:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3420" data-t="3420">to operate in the Bitcoin industry</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3422" data-t="3422">in these companies successfully so that all these plebs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3426" data-t="3426">going and and working for these companies for the first time know what to to do properly. Absolutely. Absolutely. Maybe we should put out</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3433">57:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3433" data-t="3433">a a manual or an audio, some some sort of resource to help these companies.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3438" data-t="3438">We don't have we have leaders who don't have credentials like we do.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3442">57:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3442" data-t="3442">This this might</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3444" data-t="3444">be a good book to collaborate on.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3447" data-t="3447">We get it from a bunch of people.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3450" data-t="3450">Each have little chapters.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3452">57:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3452" data-t="3452">It'd be nice to have Guy Swan read the audio version of that. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3456">57:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3456" data-t="3456">I mean, imagine this could be our version of thank God for Bitcoin. We could get a bunch of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3462" data-t="3462">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3463" data-t="3463">superpowered,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3465" data-t="3465">journalists and credentialed journalists together,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3469" data-t="3469">to collaborate. We we just have to make sure that there's no Judas among us like like Breedlove because it's kind of unfortunate when you put out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3476" data-t="3476">a book. Like, imagine if we had somebody</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3480">57:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3480" data-t="3480">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3481" data-t="3481">cooperated with us on writing this book</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3484" data-t="3484">and then turned out to be a complete</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3486" data-t="3486">disaster. And they just,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3488" data-t="3488">like, instead of using these</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3491" data-t="3491">these processes and and following the guidebook, they just did everything the the opposite way. Well,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3497">58:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3497" data-t="3497">it'd be it'd be beautiful. It'd be wonderful to have a book as successful as thank God for Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3502" data-t="3502">but it would be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3503" data-t="3503">a tragedy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3505" data-t="3505">to to collaborate with somebody who ended up just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3508" data-t="3508">besmirching</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3510" data-t="3510">everything we stood for with the social media behavior afterwards.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3514">58:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3514" data-t="3514">Yeah. I mean, maybe maybe we should write a guidebook to, like, how to properly collaborate with people and, like, the KYC process</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3523" data-t="3523">and due diligence done</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3525" data-t="3525">on them to ensure those types of events.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3527">58:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3527" data-t="3527">Value for value for dummies.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3530">58:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3530" data-t="3530">Oh. Yeah. 100%.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3534" data-t="3534">Okay. Well, thank you for reading that. Great article. Let's go through the booths.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3539">58:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3539" data-t="3539">Alright. Number one. We got John from The Uncoverable Misfits</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3543" data-t="3543">with his boost of 69420¢.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3547" data-t="3547">Really appreciate the support, John. That goes a long way for the cigarettes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3550" data-t="3550">He says, when Rod and Dick were in Podcuff land, let my people go.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3555" data-t="3555">Lie so hard, they could not stand. Let my people go.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3559" data-t="3559">That's a beautiful poem. That's a beautiful poem, John. Thank you.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3563">59:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3563" data-t="3563">That sounds like that should be a start</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3566" data-t="3566">to, a Bugle,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3568" data-t="3568">music team song production. Yeah. Yeah. Hell, yeah. Alright. I'm gonna skip the next one because it was you and you didn't leave a comment.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3577" data-t="3577">Save</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3578" data-t="3578">saber u d.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3580" data-t="3580">Sabreud?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3581">59:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3581" data-t="3581">Is that how you say it?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3584">59:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3584" data-t="3584">That sounds right.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3585">59:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3585" data-t="3585">Yeah. Sabreud, boosted for 10,000 sad said,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3589" data-t="3589">as a credentialed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3590" data-t="3590">producer with a university degree in audio production, I can confirm that the bugle desperately needs a proper productive team.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3598" data-t="3598">The signal you provide for non</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3600" data-t="3600">compliant big</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3602" data-t="3602">Bitcoiners all over the world</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3603">1:00:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3603" data-t="3603">are way too important to be distributed by technical problems</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3607" data-t="3607">or disturbed by technical problems.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3610" data-t="3610">A professional team with bachelor's degrees would never let credential journalists spend their time on reading user manuals.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3617" data-t="3617">I hope this boost will be a small step towards being able to afford someone like me. Yeah. Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3623" data-t="3623">thank you for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3624" data-t="3624">for that. And, you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3627">1:00:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3627" data-t="3627">according to your profile picture, I don't think you're the type of producer we're looking because we're not just looking for competence. We're looking for an attractive woman.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3636">1:00:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3636" data-t="3636">Yeah. It that it's a non starter. But I appreciate really appreciate the, the willingness to contribute.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3643">1:00:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3643" data-t="3643">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3644" data-t="3644">Thanks for I mean, I agree. Like, you know, we'll get to a point where we're able to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3650" data-t="3650">forward at least, like, six producers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3652" data-t="3652">so that we can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3653" data-t="3653">compete with what Bitcoin did. And, yeah, your boost definitely helps us get to there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3658" data-t="3658">Maybe the next booster is a good candidate for being a producer for us. What do you think, Ron?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3665">1:01:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3665" data-t="3665">Miss Hanlonah</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3666" data-t="3666">four twenty, at least that's 10,000 sass. And she said it's easier not to be a podcast parter when the hamsters aren't dancing sexy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3674" data-t="3674">especially Rod. Is he single?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3676" data-t="3676">I'm ready to mingle with Rod, if you know what I mean.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3679" data-t="3679">Yeah. Yeah. I,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3681" data-t="3681">I appreciate the the nice boost. I have already been in touch with miss Halma in the DMs.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3687">1:01:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3687" data-t="3687">She might be coming down to Austin. We might be going on our first date to get some,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3691" data-t="3691">some some beef at the barbecue pit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3694" data-t="3694">It's I'm</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3696" data-t="3696">I'm I'm I'm speechless. I I'm I'm a little nervous, but I'm excited. Yeah. I mean, I think miss Huddl will not</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3704">1:01:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3704" data-t="3704">does a great job here</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3706" data-t="3706">of showing you Savor Rudd,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3709" data-t="3709">how to shoot your shot as far as, like, trying to be a producer of the show and get paid to do it because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3715" data-t="3715">yeah. And she she really went for it. Wow. So you guys are going on a date?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3720">1:02:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3720" data-t="3720">Yeah. I'm blushing right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3722" data-t="3722">Well, it it's not official. She hasn't replied to my DM, but I asked her on the date, in the DMs.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3729">1:02:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3729" data-t="3729">Where where</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3730" data-t="3730">are you thinking about taking her?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3733">1:02:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3733" data-t="3733">There's this there's a there's a there's a few barbecue spots in Austin. I I thought about taking her to Franklin. That'd be a good first date.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3741" data-t="3741">She doesn't like she if she if she owns anything but beef though,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3745">1:02:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3745" data-t="3745">silver. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3746" data-t="3746">Man, these these women that eat plants, it's you know, I I guess</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3752" data-t="3752">based on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3754" data-t="3754">the amount of tobacco that I consume, I guess that makes me an herbivore.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3759" data-t="3759">But I don't typically eat plants.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3761">1:02:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3761" data-t="3761">To add if you if you burn them completely well done first. Alright. Well, thank you, miss huddl not four twenty.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3767">1:02:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3767" data-t="3767">Our next booster is fundamentals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3770" data-t="3770">from the Rock People Bitcoin podcast who says,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3775" data-t="3775">getting the word out that we procure</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3777" data-t="3777">bids,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3779" data-t="3779">and then he explains what bids means. Bitcoin influencer derangement syndrome, aka Bitcoin aid,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3786" data-t="3786">is the most thermodynamically</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3788">1:03:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3788" data-t="3788">sound value of credentialed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3790" data-t="3790">journalists</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3791" data-t="3791">journalists can provide.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3794" data-t="3794">Yeah, I agree. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3796" data-t="3796">journalists are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3797" data-t="3797">are great at informing the public accurate information</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3800">1:03:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3800" data-t="3800">about,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3804" data-t="3804">health health products like vaccines. And we did an absolute incredible job of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3810" data-t="3810">informing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3812" data-t="3812">our listeners about that, you know, recently when we were talking about vaccinating,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3816" data-t="3816">people with Bitcoin Derangement Syndrome.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3818">1:03:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3818" data-t="3818">Yeah. Cheers to us. The next one we've got from our friends, Orange Mart,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3824" data-t="3824">the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3825" data-t="3825">sponsors of this show, this particular episode,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3829" data-t="3829">and they posted a link to the the clip of the song from,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3833" data-t="3833">last week's episode, Sound of the Call. Rod and Bitt will catch it all. And that yeah. Thank thank you for the boost, Orange Mark. That that song has been playing in my head all week. It's it's a really great song. Yeah. I need to I I did this with the dollar</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3846">1:04:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3846" data-t="3846">menu stuff, but I need to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3848" data-t="3848">to take our intros and make it as a wave like album for people to go and hang</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3854" data-t="3854">out and listen to.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3855" data-t="3855">So I think they'd be pretty popular. Like, I know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3859" data-t="3859">one person was asking if they could use</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3863" data-t="3863">they're they're actually a DJ in the space that, you know, DJ for Bitcoin events</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3868">1:04:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3868" data-t="3868">from time to time, but then they also DJ at, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3871" data-t="3871">weddings and and stuff like that. And they asked to use</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3876" data-t="3876">our theme from last week in a high school prom that they're gonna be DJing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3881" data-t="3881">Oh, yeah. In Pennsylvania.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3883">1:04:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3883" data-t="3883">Will be huge.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3887">1:04:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3887" data-t="3887">Yeah. Well, thank you, Orange Mart.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3891" data-t="3891">Next one is from Cantillionaire</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3893" data-t="3893">for 5,000 sats. It said, boosting to remain compliant, I would never steal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3898" data-t="3898">Well, thank you for setting an example. Unfortunately, a lot of people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3902" data-t="3902">do steal,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3904" data-t="3904">from journalists.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3906">1:05:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3906" data-t="3906">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3907" data-t="3907">you know, we're hoping that that will</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3909" data-t="3909">stop here in the near future. But, you know, it looks like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3913" data-t="3913">people are taking our suggestions of noncompliance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3917" data-t="3917">the wrong way, unfortunately</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3918">1:05:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3918" data-t="3918">here. Yeah. Unfortunately.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3920" data-t="3920">The next one we had, We All Eat,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3922" data-t="3922">2121,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3923" data-t="3923">so 2,141</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3925" data-t="3925">SATS,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3927" data-t="3927">Comply pride,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3928">1:05:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3928" data-t="3928">non compliant bigwares, follow the rules.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3932" data-t="3932">There's no punctuation in that one. So I'm not exactly sure what the interpretation of that is, but, I agree or I disagree depending on what you meant. Yeah. We we all eat some funny guy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3944">1:05:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3944" data-t="3944">Big supporter of the show.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3946" data-t="3946">Thank you for the boost. Can't really,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3949" data-t="3949">interpret</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3950" data-t="3950">what you're saying either.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3952" data-t="3952">Though I do understand like, I do a lot of my writing when I'm under the influence of alcohol.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3960" data-t="3960">And so</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3961">1:06:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3961" data-t="3961">when</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3962" data-t="3962">I get too influenced</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3964" data-t="3964">and the alcohol starts doing the writing for me, my punctuation kinda gets,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3970" data-t="3970">bad. So maybe maybe We All Eat was having</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3974" data-t="3974">a a good time, or maybe We All Eat was just feeling lazy and didn't wanna spell check. But either way, thank you for the the boost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3981" data-t="3981">The next one is from Rev Huddle.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3983">1:06:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3983" data-t="3983">Who says, thank you for bringing the ethics back into</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3987" data-t="3987">journalism and showcasing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3988" data-t="3988">the facts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3990" data-t="3990">Potential integrity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3991" data-t="3991">is the clear path forward.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3993" data-t="3993">Well, appreciate it, Rev Huddl.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3997">1:06:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3997" data-t="3997">We're doing our best to, kind of rehabilitate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4001" data-t="4001">an industry that unfortunately</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4003" data-t="4003">doesn't really seem to be following ethics and standards, and they seem to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4007" data-t="4007">joining the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4009" data-t="4009">CIA</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4010" data-t="4010">and their noncompliance</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4012">1:06:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4012" data-t="4012">and supporting these noncompliant government agencies.</span></span></p> +