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I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-7" data-t="7">I saw the one comment you lost because I didn't Yeah. I lost because you didn't zap for me.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-12" data-t="12">The</span> <span class="cue" id="t-14" data-t="14">the</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-16">0:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-16" data-t="16">finals was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-17" data-t="17">rev huddle versus it was awesome. Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-21" data-t="21">I'm glad he won.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-24" data-t="24">But,</span> <span class="cue" data-t="24">let me see. And he was against this woman,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-29" data-t="29">Noah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-32">0:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-32" data-t="32">What's her name? Let me get it right. Noah Gruman,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-36" data-t="36">who I guess is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-39" data-t="39">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-42" data-t="42">to your point about deepfakes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-45" data-t="45">I was convinced until like two days ago that the Bugle guys made her up that she's not a real person.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-53" data-t="53">Which I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-57">0:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-57" data-t="57">Yeah. I mean, she's saying the maxi madness</span> <span class="cue" id="t-60" data-t="60">theme song and stuff. I'm</span> <span class="cue" id="t-62" data-t="62">I was I was pretty sure she was a fake person created by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-66" data-t="66">the bugle boys. Now they could be trolling me.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-69" data-t="69">They could be trolling me. But I am now convinced that she's a real person.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-73" data-t="73">And we may or may not she might perform at our Vegas event,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-79">1:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-79" data-t="79">which I insist on. Because otherwise, I'm not gonna believe she's real. Because you know what?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-83" data-t="83">She's gonna perform the Maxi Madness theme song at at our RHR pub queue then. Oh, no. This is they're trolling you, brother.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-92" data-t="92">You don't think she's real?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-94" data-t="94">I mean, they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-95" data-t="95">notorious. Like, they were doing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-97" data-t="97">AI generated music, like, four years ago. I know. I know. I know.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-101">1:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-101" data-t="101">I know. I'm aware. No way. I'm aware. I think she might be real. I think she might be real. But this is my point. It's like, how do there's no way to know unless I've if unless you meet her in person, there's no way to know if she's a real person. Look at this. They're gonna hire they're gonna hire some actors in Vegas to make you like, this is this is gonna be, like, a multi layer troll on you. Right? I mean, maybe.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-124" data-t="124">They end up, you know. I don't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-126" data-t="126">the whole point I bring it up is who the hell knows? Like, what is true and what's not? Pull up this. This was the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-135" data-t="135">this is the one that just threw me for a fucking loop.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-144" data-t="144">Apparently, not Odell.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-162">2:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-162" data-t="162">Sorry, Odell.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-164" data-t="164">She looks real.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-170" data-t="170">Logan, you gotta turn the left the audio on. We we can't hear any audio, but I can't even hear it myself. I gotta figure it with Okay. Fair enough. It doesn't matter, but she looks really real in this. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-180" data-t="180">Yeah. And she calls me out by name.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-184" data-t="184">And they told me she's come she's hopefully gonna be at the Vegas event to perform. They asked me if she could perform at the Vegas</span> <span class="cue" id="t-192" data-t="192">event.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-193">3:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-193" data-t="193">Speaking of which, the Vegas event. The Thomas, apparently, are they doing the spaces right now?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-198" data-t="198">They're on X.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-200" data-t="200">Bugle Boys and PubKitti may be doing the next.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-204" data-t="204">Yeah. See Kieran Kieran's saying she streams on ZapStream,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-208" data-t="208">raffle.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-209" data-t="209">And then Joker has says she's a singer in a real band, Serge Skarda. Does the band exist? Have you have you met the band?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-218">3:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-218" data-t="218">Folks, welcome back to the People Weekly. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-222" data-t="222">I'm excited because I think we're gonna get back to some semblance of normalcy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-228" data-t="228">Maxi Madness is over. And, you know, Maxi Madness,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-231" data-t="231">for the organizers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-233" data-t="233">like, it I I know a lot of the participants and just people around it, they they feel like it hijacks their lives. But when you're the organizer, it's like taking a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-243" data-t="243">macro dose of acid,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-245">4:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-245" data-t="245">you know, and you're just along for the ride. You're along for the duration of the ride. There's no turning back at that point. It's in your system. You just gotta</span> <span class="cue" id="t-254" data-t="254">ride the wave,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-255" data-t="255">try to enjoy it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-257" data-t="257">You have no control over where the trip takes you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-261" data-t="261">But, yeah, we're we're on the comedown now, and we're we're feeling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-266" data-t="266">the the hangover effects a little bit. I you know, I think in in both of our cases, we're feeling the afterglow.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-272">4:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-272" data-t="272">Now everybody else seems like they're kinda hungover</span> <span class="cue" id="t-275" data-t="275">from Maxi Madness. So people are talking about how,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-279" data-t="279">Noster is dead. Like, Lahav was posting about how Noster's dead now that Maxi Madness is over.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-285" data-t="285">People on Twitter are crashing out. They're they're writing out all of their</span> <span class="cue" id="t-291" data-t="291">grievances</span> <span class="cue" id="t-292" data-t="292">with Maxi Madness.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-294">4:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-294" data-t="294">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-296" data-t="296">I don't know. It's it's funny. I mean, the, you know, the the popular debate on Doster right now is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-302" data-t="302">whether or not Noah Grumman</span> <span class="cue" id="t-304" data-t="304">is a real person or not. I think Twitter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-307" data-t="307">just kind of assumed she's not.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-312" data-t="312">It it's just it's funny. I mean, we live in this, you know, wild world where where individuals are not willing to do any sort of due diligence or research on anything.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-322">5:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-322" data-t="322">And, they'll just kinda write off</span> <span class="cue" id="t-325" data-t="325">one of the greatest</span> <span class="cue" id="t-327" data-t="327">performers in the world</span> <span class="cue" id="t-330" data-t="330">as a,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-331" data-t="331">as a bot. But then they'll they'll take all these plug bots seriously, like the real person people, and argue with them and get mad.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-341" data-t="341">We're just</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-343">5:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-343" data-t="343">in a in a funny, funny, funny place right now. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-347" data-t="347">Ron, how you feeling? How's the Afterglow treating you?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-351">5:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-351" data-t="351">That's how I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-352" data-t="352">Maxi Madness, it takes a lot out of you. It takes it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-357" data-t="357">it's</span> <span class="cue" data-t="357">it's consuming.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-359" data-t="359">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-361" data-t="361">it's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-362">6:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-362" data-t="362">it's interesting to watch</span> <span class="cue" id="t-364" data-t="364">the crash out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-365" data-t="365">because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-367" data-t="367">you know, it's almost ironic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-370" data-t="370">for me to say</span> <span class="cue" id="t-371" data-t="371">don't overthink or don't take maxi madness too seriously after putting so much time and effort into it for two or three weeks leading up to it and then the event itself but</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-381">6:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-381" data-t="381">any you got</span> <span class="cue" id="t-382" data-t="382">the rise and fall of Timothy Bitcoins,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-385" data-t="385">you have Aaron Redwing defeating Ross Ulbricht in the first round like just absolutely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-391" data-t="391">setting the tone for the insanity and the madness that was to come. You have Casey Ordinals taking it all, I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-399" data-t="399">Bitcoin Max is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-401" data-t="401">letting</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-402">6:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-402" data-t="402">Hodlnaut lose</span> <span class="cue" id="t-405" data-t="405">so early in the tournament</span> <span class="cue" id="t-407" data-t="407">and then letting Casey Ordinals win and then somehow blaming it on on the Bugle as if we had anything to do with this. The Bugle does not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-416" data-t="416">tip the scales, does not participate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-420" data-t="420">in botting or, or,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-423" data-t="423">or scanning the the Vivo titles it's simply democracy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-427">7:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-427" data-t="427">So crashing out of it's so weird but it's yeah I'm just recovering I'm, I'm resting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-432" data-t="432">trying to get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-434" data-t="434">my my energy back up</span> <span class="cue" id="t-436" data-t="436">but the you know one of the interesting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-439" data-t="439">things that we learned and we talked about this on Spaces a little bit but I don't know if we talked about this on the show yet is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-446" data-t="446">the absolute</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-448">7:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-448" data-t="448">behis poor performance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-450" data-t="450">by the Nazis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-452" data-t="452">in Maxi Madness</span> <span class="cue" id="t-453" data-t="453">is just,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-454" data-t="454">it it is very obvious a death knell for BIP 110. And not only that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-460" data-t="460">the Maxi Mad Maxi Madness only runs for one week. And in one week, the Maxi Madness</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-466">7:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-466" data-t="466">predicts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-468" data-t="468">prediction markets,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-470" data-t="470">got over 1.2</span> <span class="cue" id="t-471" data-t="471">Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-472" data-t="472">And then you know in several months the BIP 110</span> <span class="cue" id="t-476" data-t="476">prediction market was just posted about</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-480">8:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-480" data-t="480">cried about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-482" data-t="482">coked about on a daily basis on the timeline it's still not even up to 1 Bitcoin yet so Maxi Madness in one week</span> <span class="cue" id="t-490" data-t="490">eclipsed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-492" data-t="492">the the entire BIP 110 market. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-496" data-t="496">that's not just that this is no longer a subjective</span> <span class="cue" id="t-499" data-t="499">opinion. This is no longer</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-502">8:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-502" data-t="502">editorialization</span> <span class="cue" id="t-503" data-t="503">of the matter, it is literally the market telling you that that, Maxi Madness is bigger than BIP 110, and that is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-512" data-t="512">that's it's really pathetic if you ask me.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-516">8:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-516" data-t="516">It is pathetic. You know, some people were</span> <span class="cue" id="t-520" data-t="520">upset,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-522" data-t="522">petitioning, saying that we we didn't include real maxis in this tournament, which I I found very laughable. I think we did a really good job of curating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-531" data-t="531">some of the the greatest</span> <span class="cue" id="t-533" data-t="533">Maxis of all time in this tournament, at least at, you know, their performance over the last year.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-539" data-t="539">And what what they were essentially complaining about is that they wanted more</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-544">9:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-544" data-t="544">plebs slot maximalist,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-546" data-t="546">not Bitcoin maximalist. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-550" data-t="550">it's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-552" data-t="552">there's a lot of individuals with very, like, skewed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-555" data-t="555">views of reality</span> <span class="cue" id="t-557" data-t="557">that is,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-558">9:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-558" data-t="558">that I think Maxi Madness</span> <span class="cue" id="t-561" data-t="561">exposed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-562" data-t="562">quite a bit, and the the prediction markets exposed. It's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-567" data-t="567">you know, we've been talking about prediction markets</span> <span class="cue" id="t-570" data-t="570">on this show pretty much since the inception,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-573" data-t="573">and,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-574">9:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-574" data-t="574">it's something I think we're both, you know, excited and passionate about because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-581" data-t="581">you know, they were talked about by the early cypherpunks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-585" data-t="585">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-587" data-t="587">you know, they've been talked about for a long time as, like, this free market oracle of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-592" data-t="592">information.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-593" data-t="593">And, you know, being a journalist, you like, you care about</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-597">9:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-597" data-t="597">the truth. You like, you know, there there's some people like Tomer. You know, Tomer thinks that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-602" data-t="602">the keys to life are, like, you know, love and peace and and happiness and harmony,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-608" data-t="608">you know, which are all nice. Like, I value those things too, but, like, if you don't have the truth</span> <span class="cue" id="t-614" data-t="614">mixed in with those things,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-617" data-t="617">you're you're really missing something that's important. The truth matters.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-621" data-t="621">Reality matters,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-624">10:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-624" data-t="624">believe it or not. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-627" data-t="627">we you know, there there's been a lot of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-631" data-t="631">loss of trust in credentials. There's been a lot of loss of trust in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-636" data-t="636">institutions like the institution of journalism</span> <span class="cue" id="t-640" data-t="640">because that's what happens when, you know, the CIA captures something is they just they break everybody's trust. It's like you're the job of the CIA is literally to tell lies.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-651" data-t="651">That's the job of being a spy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-653">10:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-653" data-t="653">And so when you allow the liars to take over</span> <span class="cue" id="t-658" data-t="658">the information channels, like people are gonna obviously lose distrust, but that doesn't mean that journalism inherently is bad. It just means that spook journalism is bad.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-668" data-t="668">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-671" data-t="671">there there there's nuance to this. And, you know, I think prediction markets are interesting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-677" data-t="677">in this world that we live in as, you know, being able to determine our culture.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-683">11:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-683" data-t="683">The Platas</span> <span class="cue" id="t-684" data-t="684">say they value the truth, and maybe they do to a certain extent, but the Platas only value the truth until it starts encroaching</span> <span class="cue" id="t-691" data-t="691">on their plug slop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-693" data-t="693">journalism or their plump slop empire that they're trying to build</span> <span class="cue" id="t-697" data-t="697">and that's a problem that's where the incentives</span> <span class="cue" id="t-700" data-t="700">are worked.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-702">11:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-702" data-t="702">You can only if you only value truth</span> <span class="cue" id="t-705" data-t="705">until the point that it threatens you the truth threatens you then you don't value truth and you know this is this is one of the problems</span> <span class="cue" id="t-715" data-t="715">with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-716" data-t="716">with Homer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-717" data-t="717">his girlfriend DJ Valerie Love. It's it's all about peace and love and pledge slop until</span> <span class="cue" id="t-724" data-t="724">until something threatens their their little, you know, pledge slop echo chamber.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-730">12:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-730" data-t="730">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-731" data-t="731">the the truth drowns out these echo chambers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-734" data-t="734">and it makes them it it exposes them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-738" data-t="738">as like the wizard of Oz behind the curtain making</span> <span class="cue" id="t-743" data-t="743">it making this this show, this this charade,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-747" data-t="747">this</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-748">12:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-748" data-t="748">you know like the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-750" data-t="750">Plato's cave with the shadows cast on the wall once you expose that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-754" data-t="754">and a lot of people start asking questions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-757" data-t="757">it really upsets them and prediction markets do this prediction markets</span> <span class="cue" id="t-762" data-t="762">you know any anybody can make a prediction anybody can have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-766" data-t="766">a thesis or a you know</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-769">12:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-769" data-t="769">a base case as people like to say in the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-773" data-t="773">in the space here but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-776" data-t="776">if you're not willing to put your money where your blood slot is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-781" data-t="781">that is a red flag,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-783" data-t="783">and it's a problem.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-786" data-t="786">This and this is why I think pledge are so terrified of prediction markets.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-791">13:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-791" data-t="791">Absolutely. And and this is also why some clubs are so bad at prediction markets. There's a lot of poly market plebs out there who who see a prediction market and they think, here's my chance to stack more sats because I listen to podcast, I know more than everybody else.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-805" data-t="805">But you know this is this is why we're gonna get into these crash outs right and like why are they crashing out? It's because of the planets</span> <span class="cue" id="t-814" data-t="814">don't understand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-815" data-t="815">we talked about this don't understand the rules of the game that they are playing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-819" data-t="819">and this is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-821" data-t="821">the same thing that happens in Maxie Madness the plans crash out because they don't understand what Maxie Madness is and they think Maxie Madness should have</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-830">13:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-830" data-t="830">an outcome</span> <span class="cue" id="t-832" data-t="832">that is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-834" data-t="834">that it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-836" data-t="836">is satisfying to their little blood feelings, and that's not how Massy Madness works, and this is and this this leads to crash outs.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-845">14:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-845" data-t="845">Absolutely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-846" data-t="846">I mean, the the prediction markets and the plugs being on the prediction markets, I think is a is a massive opportunity for growth</span> <span class="cue" id="t-853" data-t="853">because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-854" data-t="854">it allows them to put their Plebs slop that they've been consuming to the test and, like, for them to be be real consequences. Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-864" data-t="864">one of the consistent problems</span> <span class="cue" id="t-866" data-t="866">for the plebs</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-868">14:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-868" data-t="868">is they have short memories.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-870" data-t="870">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-872" data-t="872">you know, they walk away from Bitcoin podcast just, you know, asking themselves how it made them feel</span> <span class="cue" id="t-877" data-t="877">at the end of the day. Like, did it did it make them feel</span> <span class="cue" id="t-880" data-t="880">good? Did it make them feel smart? Did it make them feel better? Like, hey, you know, I just listened to Tom Luongo spot off about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-888" data-t="888">complete and utter bullshit</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-890">14:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-890" data-t="890">on Marty's podcast, but, like, it makes me feel like I'm smarter. So I can go repeat the plebslop that I heard</span> <span class="cue" id="t-897" data-t="897">Tom Luongo say to my family, and their their heads are gonna spin because they're gonna have no idea what I'm talking about. I'm gonna feel, like, smart and sophisticated.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-907" data-t="907">But, you know, they if they then take that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-910" data-t="910">misinformation or just pour information</span> <span class="cue" id="t-913" data-t="913">and embed on it and are wrong consistently over and over, they might learn the lesson that they shouldn't listen to Tom DeLongeau</span> <span class="cue" id="t-920" data-t="920">on his opinions on things. That he's not,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-924">15:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-924" data-t="924">the best. But, like, what you're seeing happening</span> <span class="cue" id="t-927" data-t="927">right now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-928" data-t="928">is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-930" data-t="930">there's a contingency</span> <span class="cue" id="t-931" data-t="931">of plebs that are trying to become influencers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-935" data-t="935">You know? And for years, you know, they why did the plebs start calling themselves plebs and start bragging about being plebs?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-941">15:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-941" data-t="941">Because they were proud of not being influencers. And so, you know, for years and years, they criticized the influencers. They made fun of them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-949" data-t="949">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-951" data-t="951">you know, they they're coming to this hard realization</span> <span class="cue" id="t-955" data-t="955">of how hard it is to be an influencer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-958" data-t="958">Like, it takes a lot of work to be an influencer, and it's hard to be in the public spotlight at the center of the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-966" data-t="966">you know, the ring of the circus with all the standing around, like, judging you for your circus performance.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-971">16:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-971" data-t="971">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-975" data-t="975">it's it it's you know, I I have hope for, you know, these trying to become influencers that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-981" data-t="981">you know, they they'll learn some lessons and they'll grow and they'll get better at it. But right now, we're we're at this very strange,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-990" data-t="990">transition point where they're they're being plebs,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-994" data-t="994">like, Foley,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-995" data-t="995">and, they're influencing</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-997">16:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-997" data-t="997">very, very poorly. And it's very comical,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1001" data-t="1001">to read</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1003" data-t="1003">the the slop and the garbage that they're spewing right now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1007">16:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1007" data-t="1007">Well, hey. That's the irony right, the crash out part of the crash outs is because plebs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1013" data-t="1013">their entire culture their entire identity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1016" data-t="1016">is anti influencer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1018" data-t="1018">but they're they've never been more grumpy about the lack of influence that they have it's like if you want to be a retarded pleb</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1027" data-t="1027">that is you know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1028" data-t="1028">that is a choice that is an identity choice it's not illegal</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1032">17:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1032" data-t="1032">there's nothing illegal about being a pleb.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1036" data-t="1036">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1039" data-t="1039">understand who you are, get through the cognitive dissonance because plebs are not influential. Nobody is influenced by a pleb. A pleb is an anti influencer. No. And nobody looks at a pleb and says, I want what they have. I want to be like them. They they think, wow, I'm glad I'm not them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1057" data-t="1057">So you it should not be surprising if you are a plaid and people are like, I don't I don't wanna I don't wanna do and had anything to do with what these guys are doing. They they,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1068" data-t="1068">from an outside looking in these guys are retarded.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1072" data-t="1072">And I don't want to be retarded.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1073">17:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1073" data-t="1073">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1074" data-t="1074">and if you want to embrace that there's some people who embrace that and they're not at all</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1079" data-t="1079">grumpy about the lack of influence they have.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1083" data-t="1083">Like Peter Bob, Peter Bob has no influence and he doesn't care</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1088" data-t="1088">he is just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1089" data-t="1089">he's just riling people up,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1092">18:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1092" data-t="1092">but there's a lot of plebs who they really freak out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1095" data-t="1095">about having zero influence but that is that is that comes with the territory.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1101" data-t="1101">It's it's like Kletter, he he gets so mad about people marketing on a social marketing platform. That's a whole reason</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1108" data-t="1108">Twitter exists is to market your plat your brand market your company market yourself whatever it is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1115" data-t="1115">so when</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1116" data-t="1116">Plenaire gets grumpy crashes out about people doing that it's like</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1120">18:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1120" data-t="1120">the whole purpose of this platform</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1123" data-t="1123">is marketing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1124" data-t="1124">The whole purpose of being a plud is to not add any influence.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1129">18:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1129" data-t="1129">It's kind of like getting mad at people for driving on the highway.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1134">18:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1134" data-t="1134">Yeah. Like getting mad at traffic, right? Why are all these people driving on this road? Well, that's what roads are for, my friend. The roads are coming in and out of the city just like what you're doing on the road.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1144" data-t="1144">Well, you're you're a part of this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1147" data-t="1147">bigger system</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1149" data-t="1149">and to get upset about it is just you know I mean don't get me wrong traffic is frustrating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1155" data-t="1155">but having enough self awareness to realize that you are the traffic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1159" data-t="1159">is,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1160">19:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1160" data-t="1160">hey you know this is this is another part of the pledge</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1164" data-t="1164">they don't understand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1165" data-t="1165">that the the whole reason that plaids</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1170" data-t="1170">emerged as a community or whatever</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1172" data-t="1172">is to be trafficked</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1174" data-t="1174">they were the swans could traffic trinkets to them</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1178">19:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1178" data-t="1178">Other companies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1179" data-t="1179">could traffic the plaids to make it seem like this brand or this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1184" data-t="1184">this movement</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1185" data-t="1185">was a larger thing than it really was and so to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1190" data-t="1190">plaintiffs get so upset about the scammers and influencers who are taking advantage of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1196" data-t="1196">the plebs. That is the point of a pleb is to be traffic. If you are a pleb, you are there, you are part of the traffic.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1203">20:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1203" data-t="1203">It's pretty funny to watch. I'm having a good time with it. I mean, it's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1207" data-t="1207">it's, it's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1210" data-t="1210">there's nothing funnier than</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1212" data-t="1212">reality. Like, I I just don't really understand why why comedy even exists at this point when you can just, report the news and it's just about the funniest shit you've ever seen.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1223" data-t="1223">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1226" data-t="1226">yeah, it's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1228">20:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1228" data-t="1228">it's been entertaining to watch,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1230" data-t="1230">the the crash outs from from Maxi Madness for for the most part. Some some of the crash outs have been a little bit disappointing, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1239" data-t="1239">Noster,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1240" data-t="1240">there were some crash outs, but it it was fairly tame. It was just like, you know, the competition got heated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1248" data-t="1248">because there was a lot of money on the predicts market. So, you know, people are passionate about, you know, the results in the polls, and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1255" data-t="1255">that's okay.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1256">20:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1256" data-t="1256">Now the Twitter one,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1259" data-t="1259">the Twitter crash has had been very funny</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1262" data-t="1262">because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1264" data-t="1264">they don't think that Casey and Aaron are maximalists.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1268" data-t="1268">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1269" data-t="1269">I think what what we really saw happen this year was</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1274">21:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1274" data-t="1274">a shift in the overtime window that has</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1278" data-t="1278">some people very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1280" data-t="1280">grumpy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1281" data-t="1281">and uncomfortable.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1282" data-t="1282">And instead of this is like, you know, like watching the libs when,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1287" data-t="1287">lose their shit when Trump got,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1290">21:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1290" data-t="1290">selected,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1292" data-t="1292">the first time in 2016.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1297" data-t="1297">Instead of asking why this happened,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1301" data-t="1301">they just lost their minds</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1304" data-t="1304">and were reading. And and we're seeing the same exact behavior</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1308" data-t="1308">on,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1309">21:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1309" data-t="1309">on Twitter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1310" data-t="1310">you know, from, like, a lot of these guys. So I I think it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1314" data-t="1314">an important question to ask, why did this happen, Ron? Why did Casey and Aaron</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1320" data-t="1320">win Maximus this year?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1322">22:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1322" data-t="1322">The the the time is crashing out. They're saying that Aaron and Casey</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1326" data-t="1326">are not maximalists.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1329" data-t="1329">Again, this goes back to the plebs not even understanding the own terminology</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1334" data-t="1334">that they use.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1335" data-t="1335">They think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1336" data-t="1336">that being a maximalist</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1338">22:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1338" data-t="1338">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1339" data-t="1339">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1341" data-t="1341">equivalent or is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1343" data-t="1343">like saying that they that you're a retarded pleb.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1346" data-t="1346">No, that's not what Maximalist is about being Bitcoin only like being Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1351" data-t="1351">that's the only thing you care about so anything you build on that's the only thing you buy or trade</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1356">22:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1356" data-t="1356">that's the only thing you podcast about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1358" data-t="1358">has nothing to do with being a retarded pleb</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1361" data-t="1361">or eating steak every day or you know being a taco pleb or whatever</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1366" data-t="1366">pleb universe you're in it's about Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1369" data-t="1369">and Aaron and Casey are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1372" data-t="1372">Bitcoin maximalists. They've always they've always been Bitcoin maximalists. I I maybe in early twenty twenty or something Erin, you know, when she was</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1381">23:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1381" data-t="1381">first getting into it, she, you know, like like Misty, maybe she was mining some Chia or something. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1389" data-t="1389">if that most of the plebs who were crashing out were also doing that in 2020 and 2021.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1394" data-t="1394">So, like, that doesn't really count, like, in the in the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1398" data-t="1398">contemporary era.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1400" data-t="1400">So, it's like again these plebs are retarded they don't even know their own words that they're using.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1405">23:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1405" data-t="1405">So,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1408">23:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1408" data-t="1408">you go back and what was the question you originally asked because</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1414">23:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1414" data-t="1414">Well, the the question is why did Aaron and Casey win Maxi Madness this year? Hello. Instead of, They won because they are</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1424">23:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1424" data-t="1424">hot,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1426" data-t="1426">because they they were happy to be there, because they understood</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1430" data-t="1430">the rules of Maxi Madness and they played the rules of Maxi Madness</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1435" data-t="1435">very well. I mean, probably played</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1438" data-t="1438">it as good as anybody other than Teddy Bitcoins.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1441" data-t="1441">Now Teddy Bitcoins absolutely ran through Maxi Madness and, like, I don't think we're ever gonna see it's like the 1996</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1448">24:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1448" data-t="1448">Chicago Bulls</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1449" data-t="1449">just completely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1451" data-t="1451">unmatched,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1453" data-t="1453">but there's no competition that could ever come close to, what Teddy Bitcoins did</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1460" data-t="1460">but outside of Teddy Bitcoins nobody's played this game better than Aaron and Casey did. Because they knew the rules, they understood the rules, they understood the tournament that they were a part of and they played it very very well and they they just out they outclassed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1476" data-t="1476">everybody they face they outclassed the playoffs</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1479">24:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1479" data-t="1479">by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1480" data-t="1480">a wide margin and that's why they won</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1484" data-t="1484">And if the plan if Hoddle not if the puns weren't Hoddle not to win they should have voted for him they should have rallied support they still have lobbied and campaigned for him because that's all that's all Aaron and Casey did they didn't use bots</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1495" data-t="1495">they simply</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1497" data-t="1497">took</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1498" data-t="1498">they simply took it seriously and left it on the court and that's how you win there's there is no secret</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1504">25:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1504" data-t="1504">sauce to this there's no</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1506" data-t="1506">how do I do you have to know the underground</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1508" data-t="1508">or black market bot websites down it's not how you win Maxi Madness</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1513" data-t="1513">You just have to you just have to play the game. And the planets don't the planets can't play the game because they don't know what the rules are and they don't like you said earlier, they don't even take five minutes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1524" data-t="1524">to research anything. They just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1526" data-t="1526">if they if they cannot map their Plebs Law mental models</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1531">25:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1531" data-t="1531">to a new phenomena</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1533" data-t="1533">instantly,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1534" data-t="1534">they just they just crash out. They don't they don't even try to to understand.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1540">25:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1540" data-t="1540">Yeah. Yeah. I mean, one of the consistent questions I've asked a lot of these grumpy plebs is why didn't you vote harder?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1546" data-t="1546">You know, we we we saw this almost universally across the board is, you know, they're heroes. They didn't wanna show up and compete.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1554" data-t="1554">And, you know, whether you like it or not,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1557" data-t="1557">Maxi Madness</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1559" data-t="1559">is a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1561" data-t="1561">incredible reflection of Bitcoin culture and the the Bitcoin ecosystem.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1566">26:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1566" data-t="1566">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1568" data-t="1568">I I think we do a really good job of that, of selecting a lot of individuals that are very active, that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1574" data-t="1574">you know, have accomplished a lot, that are interesting, that are intelligent,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1579" data-t="1579">and just, like, a wide variety of people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1583" data-t="1583">and they they all go up against each other, you know, and compete, and people vote for them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1588" data-t="1588">And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1589">26:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1589" data-t="1589">you know, if anything so, I mean, this was funny last year because I what was maxi madness</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1595" data-t="1595">last year? It it was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1597" data-t="1597">signaling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1598" data-t="1598">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1600" data-t="1600">Swan didn't matter anymore.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1603" data-t="1603">Corey</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1605">26:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1605" data-t="1605">and Brady were crashing out constantly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1608" data-t="1608">in my DMs, the whole Maxi Madness,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1611" data-t="1611">after Corey refused to compete</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1614" data-t="1614">in round one and got knocked out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1617" data-t="1617">because their arch nemesis, Teddy Bitcoins, was winning.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1622" data-t="1622">And, you know, my response was,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1625">27:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1625" data-t="1625">you could compete.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1627" data-t="1627">If you wanna be a part of Bitcoin culture, you can't just sit there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1632" data-t="1632">and rest on your credentials and cry</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1634" data-t="1634">when other people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1638" data-t="1638">beat you, you know, at at the game that's being played.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1641" data-t="1641">And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1643">27:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1643" data-t="1643">I think this year,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1646" data-t="1646">with Casey and Aaron winning, it was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1650" data-t="1650">my takeaway from it is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1653" data-t="1653">it's just not that compelling to cry</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1656" data-t="1656">and be grumpy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1657" data-t="1657">all the time.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1659">27:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1659" data-t="1659">That's just not that's not what gets voters excited for you. That's not what gets Right.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1665">27:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1665" data-t="1665">The This is why Democrats lost in 2024.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1669" data-t="1669">All they wanna do is crash out and cry about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1673" data-t="1673">Trump this. Trump is a Nazi. Trump is racist. Trump is a convicted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1677" data-t="1677">felon. Trump is this. Trump is that. Trump fails their purity test. Okay, we get it a politician failed your purity test and so you're gonna cry about it, but the politician who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1690" data-t="1690">competed wanted to compete</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1692" data-t="1692">and came out and add something to say</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1695">28:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1695" data-t="1695">had something to offer to the boaters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1698" data-t="1698">more than just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1700" data-t="1700">hey I'm gonna cry about this with you let's cry about this together</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1704" data-t="1704">people that people don't wake up in the morning and say</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1708" data-t="1708">I got it. I got my checklist of things I have to do today. I have to go to work. I have to go to the gym. I have to sit in traffic. I have to call my mother-in-law.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1717" data-t="1717">I have to have an argument with my neighbor, Dale.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1720">28:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1720" data-t="1720">And then I have to go to the polls to vote for the politician who's crying about the same shit I'm crying about.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1727" data-t="1727">No, they're they're going to the polls to vote for somebody who's gonna offer them something for free. Doesn't matter what that is. Casey came out,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1735" data-t="1735">he looked hot, he smiled, and he said, listen,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1738" data-t="1738">if you vote for me, I'm gonna turn on the turbo flag. And people said, free turbo flag. I'm voting for the free turbo flag. What did anybody else offer? They offered nothing more</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1749" data-t="1749">except for plebs lock conspiracy theories, plebs lock hate parties.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1754" data-t="1754">People are not gonna go vote after</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1756">29:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1756" data-t="1756">nearly getting into a fatal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1759" data-t="1759">confrontation with their neighbor Dale over the the, you know, who's mowing the lawn on a frequent enough basis.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1766" data-t="1766">No it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1768" data-t="1768">it's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1769" data-t="1769">they don't know how to sell their own culture</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1773" data-t="1773">because</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1775">29:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1775" data-t="1775">and I think deep down they don't even believe in their own culture. What is there to believe in in pepslop culture? There's nothing to believe in none of those people are happy nobody in the pepslop pity party is happy. They're all miserable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1787" data-t="1787">they're all pissed off and they're all they all hate each other and they hate everybody else</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1792" data-t="1792">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1794" data-t="1794">they can't even sell, they they can't even sell why anybody should care about them. All they can do is cry about the fact that nobody does care about them.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1804">30:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1804" data-t="1804">Yeah. I mean, one of the ways that you could have, or the, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1809" data-t="1809">in the Node region, for example, the Nazis could have,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1812" data-t="1812">countered a lot of these other people is they they could have just been out there and said, hey. We're actually going to get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1819" data-t="1819">BIP one ten activated.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1821" data-t="1821">You know, vote for us, show us your support, you know, show your support for BIP one ten,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1826" data-t="1826">and then you'll win your bets on predicts. Like, that could've totally countered</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1831">30:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1831" data-t="1831">the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1832" data-t="1832">the narrative around the turtle flag. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1835" data-t="1835">yeah, it's funny because they they they truly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1839" data-t="1839">are miserable people because they they all they do is fuck a bitch.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1843" data-t="1843">They all they do they're they're so hyper focused with just, like, bitching</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1847" data-t="1847">about what everybody else is doing and being the</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1851">30:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1851" data-t="1851">the Plebs slot police.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1853" data-t="1853">And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1856">30:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1856" data-t="1856">and they're they're very little about Cordevs having sex. They're bitching about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1860" data-t="1860">Casey and Aaron</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1862" data-t="1862">being hot, which means they think that they're probably having sex. Casey's an incel just like the clips, and they don't even take time to realize that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1870">31:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1870" data-t="1870">Yep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1872" data-t="1872">But, I mean, it's just it it it's pretty astounding because, like, it you know, I I've never really,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1878" data-t="1878">like, I think inscriptions are, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1882" data-t="1882">funny</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1884" data-t="1884">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1885" data-t="1885">relatively</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1888">31:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1888" data-t="1888">uninteresting, you know, because, like, I've I've I've talked to these people. Like, I when we went to spamming Vegas, which is a great experience, like, I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1896" data-t="1896">I love Aaron and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1899" data-t="1899">Casey. Like, I just I I think they're some of the best Bitcoin podcasters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1903" data-t="1903">in existence right now. They're they're very, you know, engaging and interesting to listen to. They're very intelligent. They're they're great orators.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1911" data-t="1911">Like, they're they're just very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1913" data-t="1913">entertaining to listen to, you know, their banter back and forth. And I think a lot of people can just learn from their</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1919">31:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1919" data-t="1919">communication</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1920" data-t="1920">strategies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1922" data-t="1922">by listening to their podcast even if you don't like, you know, the ideas that they present or or who they are.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1928" data-t="1928">I think they're the best at the the game right now. But, like, you know, I've talked to these ordinals people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1935" data-t="1935">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1936" data-t="1936">we live</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1937">32:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1937" data-t="1937">on very different planets.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1939" data-t="1939">You know, I I was walking around spamming Vegas. You know? I I was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1944" data-t="1944">thinking about doing an inscription set, and I just didn't get around to it because I I had other things, to do. And I've never inscribed anything,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1952" data-t="1952">other than,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1953" data-t="1953">you know, using, like, the opera turn bond to say, Lynn, and Alden is hot or whatever. But, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1962" data-t="1962">I was thinking about, you know, doing this, Orville's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1965">32:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1965" data-t="1965">Inscription collection</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1968" data-t="1968">of, all the propaganda posters from the, you know, core versus knots article I did a long time ago.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1975" data-t="1975">And I was talking to one of the guys there and I, you know, he was telling me about his wallet that he built,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1981" data-t="1981">well, you know, which was kind of unusual to talk to somebody at a conference talking about something that they were actually building, but that that seemed to be, you know, most of the people at the Ordinal's Conference, they were building something or another.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1991" data-t="1991">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1993" data-t="1993">he was kinda baffled</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1996">33:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1996" data-t="1996">that I wasn't uploading</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1997" data-t="1997">or trying to inscribe, like, pictures of animals. Like, he was just very confused,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2003" data-t="2003">by that, which just kinda shows that we live in, you know, very different, you know, perspectives and worlds.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2009" data-t="2009">A lot of those people are a lot more fun to hang out with, even if they're a bunch of wackadoos.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2015" data-t="2015">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2017" data-t="2017">I think that There's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2019">33:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2019" data-t="2019">there's some there's no fads there. There's no fads in that community.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2023">33:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2023" data-t="2023">Oh, I'm sure there's plenty of fads.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2026">33:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2026" data-t="2026">Oh, I I I didn't see any. When I was when I was hanging out at the the quote unquote maximalist,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2033" data-t="2033">where all the where all the Bitcoin only</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2036" data-t="2036">plebs were hanging out, it was absolutely full of Feds, like obvious Feds, politicians Feds, you went to Spamming Bay because I didn't see</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2043" data-t="2043">any Feds, maybe there was one or two there, I don't know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2048">34:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2048" data-t="2048">but We're talking about the out of the closet Feds. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's but it's it listen, it's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2058">34:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2058" data-t="2058">anecdotal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2061" data-t="2061">Right down the street from each other,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2063" data-t="2063">One</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2064" data-t="2064">expo hall</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2066" data-t="2066">was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2067" data-t="2067">I mean, there was more feds in some of these rooms, in some of these stages</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2073">34:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2073" data-t="2073">at the Bitcoin conference last year than there was plebs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2077" data-t="2077">And when you went to the ordinals it was all it was there was no Feds in sight</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2081" data-t="2081">at least visible</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2082" data-t="2082">and I there was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2085" data-t="2085">at the Venetia there was more make America great there were more MAGA hats than than than Bitcoin hats</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2092" data-t="2092">And that's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2094">34:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2094" data-t="2094">that's just a snapshot but it's it's it tells you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2098" data-t="2098">it's a sample size of that community</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2101" data-t="2101">and there was no politicians at Standing Vegas,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2103" data-t="2103">there's no Republicans or Democrats,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2107" data-t="2107">Very few libertarians.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2109" data-t="2109">It's quite why it was so fun.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2113">35:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2113" data-t="2113">And like Katie, you talk about the Dow Money podcast. And not only they did it at podcasting and talking about things about Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2119" data-t="2119">they're also relevant to, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2122" data-t="2122">contemporary popular</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2125" data-t="2125">and some of these other like more popular subcultures</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2128" data-t="2128">the Planet podcast like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2131" data-t="2131">it's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2132">35:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2132" data-t="2132">there is little it's so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2135" data-t="2135">it's a it's a one it's a one dog show. It's like they've got nothing other than bitching and complaining about, you know, Bitcoin culture.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2146">35:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2146" data-t="2146">Yeah. The Pod podcast is bitching about something else, is bitching about how the world's broken, or is bitching about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2154" data-t="2154">or just, you know, repeating the same old taglines of use this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2158" data-t="2158">you know, KYC exchange and, you know, withdrawn to this hardware wallet. And that's about, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2163" data-t="2163">the extent of the analysis that you get, you know, maybe some, like, macro slop once in a while.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2172" data-t="2172">And it's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2173" data-t="2173">it's it's boring, and it's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2176">36:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2176" data-t="2176">it's uninteresting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2177" data-t="2177">Like, Casey and Aaron won because they're not boring, and they are interesting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2182" data-t="2182">at the end of the day</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2184" data-t="2184">is my my interpretation of it. And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2187">36:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2187" data-t="2187">You can you can even make the interpretation that Casey and Aaron did not win as much as the clubs simply lost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2194" data-t="2194">It was Massey Madness was Hodlnaut</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2198" data-t="2198">or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2199" data-t="2199">any of anybody else on that board that you wanted to root for instead of them, it was theirs to win.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2205" data-t="2205">And instead of winning it, they just fumbled the bag.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2210">36:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2210" data-t="2210">I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2211" data-t="2211">I I agree with that, but I I do think it's important to give Casey and Aaron some credit because they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2218" data-t="2218">it wasn't just more than,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2220" data-t="2220">you know, the plebs losing. They they, you know, they they really are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2225" data-t="2225">the pinnacle</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2227" data-t="2227">of Bitcoin culture right now</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2229">37:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2229" data-t="2229">in a lot of ways, in my opinion. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2233" data-t="2233">you know, whether whether you like them or not,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2236" data-t="2236">they are interesting. They are engaging. They're entertaining. They're funny.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2241" data-t="2241">Aaron's hot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2244" data-t="2244">Casey's really smart.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2246">37:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2246" data-t="2246">Casey's hot too. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2248" data-t="2248">don't take that away from him.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2250" data-t="2250">Casey's hotter and in better shape than</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2253" data-t="2253">99%</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2254" data-t="2254">of the plebs you will ever meet.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2257">37:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2257" data-t="2257">I mean, which which fucking,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2260" data-t="2260">you know, pleb hero in the tournament</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2263" data-t="2263">had a really hot woman,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2267" data-t="2267">saying that she was gonna post nudes if they won?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2273">37:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2273" data-t="2273">Exactly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2274" data-t="2274">Is he none of them.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2276">37:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2276" data-t="2276">But,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2277">37:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2277" data-t="2277">There are more important things than Maxi Manis going on in the world right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2281" data-t="2281">You know? I disagree,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2284">38:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2284" data-t="2284">but we can talk about other things.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2286" data-t="2286">It's a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2287" data-t="2287">just to kinda camp up this conversation, I I I think there's a lot</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2292" data-t="2292">that people can learn from.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2295" data-t="2295">And,</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2295">you know, one one of the things that was refreshing</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2298">38:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2298" data-t="2298">refreshing through the tournament was watching, you know, the Nostr</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2302" data-t="2302">ecosystem</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2303" data-t="2303">respond and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2305" data-t="2305">you know, getting to see a lot of the discussion in the group chats. Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2310" data-t="2310">Rev Huddl,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2311" data-t="2311">that might have been the highlight of his entire life</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2314">38:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2314" data-t="2314">was this week. He was having a blast. He was having a good time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2318" data-t="2318">He was committed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2320" data-t="2320">to taking home the w.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2322" data-t="2322">He took it home. Noah was having fun.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2326" data-t="2326">Even grumpy Odell</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2329" data-t="2329">got to see a a</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2330">38:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2330" data-t="2330">a couple smiles on his face, so he was having fun throughout the Maxi Madness. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2338" data-t="2338">it's just it it's not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2339" data-t="2339">entirely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2340" data-t="2340">that the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2342" data-t="2342">the the whole</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2344" data-t="2344">kinda, like, 2021,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2348">39:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2348" data-t="2348">perspective</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2349" data-t="2349">around Bitcoin is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2352" data-t="2352">is grumpy. It's just that the the predominant ones on on Twitter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2357" data-t="2357">seem to be that way. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2359" data-t="2359">you know, there there are a couple people that have retired to Nostr that that seem to be having fun. And so it's it's a very different game.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2366">39:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2366" data-t="2366">There was a lot of grumpy people on Noster too, though.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2369" data-t="2369">There's a lot of people crashing out and being grumpy on Noster. I don't I I wouldn't say that everybody was having fun on Noster.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2378">39:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2378" data-t="2378">I mean, there weren't that many. I mean, there there was a couple.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2381" data-t="2381">There there you know, some of them, like, need creations. Like, the only reason why he was on Oster is because he's taken lent</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2388" data-t="2388">off of Twitter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2390" data-t="2390">which in my opinion, using Oster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2393" data-t="2393">is essentially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2394" data-t="2394">cheating on lent.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2397">39:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2397" data-t="2397">So</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2397">I I I think God's pretty disappointed with the new creations.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2403" data-t="2403">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2406" data-t="2406">I don't know. I mean, did did you did you really see a bunch of grumpy people? I only saw a handful.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2411">40:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2411" data-t="2411">I saw way more grumpy people than I saw happy people.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2414" data-t="2414">When I logged in, it was just like, what's this? I'm actually mad. This is the most annoying,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2419" data-t="2419">scammy thing I've ever seen in my life.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2421" data-t="2421">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2422" data-t="2422">you know, I saw some people having fun. I saw some I absolutely, there's a lot of people having fun. But it was, I when I when I walked in, I was, like, oh, what are these guys crashing out about?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2433" data-t="2433">And they just I I mean, Maxie Mattis, if you're on x, if you're on Twitter,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2439">40:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2439" data-t="2439">you probably</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2440" data-t="2440">at this point have seen it coming, but this was the first year that it was on Noster. These guys had no idea what was coming</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2446" data-t="2446">and it really, it was really, I think, overwhelming for some people. They were, they were definitely crashing out. I saw a lot of people crashing out about it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2456">40:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2456" data-t="2456">Well, I understand how it could be a little bit overstimulating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2459" data-t="2459">for people that are used to scrolling through the timeline and not seeing really much of anything, but, like, and all this stuff.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2466">41:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2466" data-t="2466">Yeah. A lot of new posts, a lot of people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2470" data-t="2470">having a good time,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2473" data-t="2473">doing more, you know, doing more than just saying good morning to each other and then and then not seeing any new posts for twenty four hours. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2481" data-t="2481">yeah, it was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2482" data-t="2482">it was a lot.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2483">41:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2483" data-t="2483">I mean, a huge part of the way that I think a lot of us interact with these social platforms is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2492" data-t="2492">using group chats as well as kind of like an extension to interface with them of people sharing posts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2498" data-t="2498">discussing what they're seeing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2500" data-t="2500">shaping a broader perspective outside of the algorithm.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2503" data-t="2503">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2505" data-t="2505">I saw so many people having fun in the group chats. I got so many messages</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2510">41:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2510" data-t="2510">from people that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2511" data-t="2511">were telling me that they signed up to predicts and, like, what their their best looks like. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2517" data-t="2517">you know, a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2518" data-t="2518">good friend of the show</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2521" data-t="2521">told me that they won, like, a 120</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2523" data-t="2523">or something like that and felt</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2526">42:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2526" data-t="2526">really accomplished with themselves, you know, for betting on rev huddle. Like, it's just it was Generational wealth.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2532" data-t="2532">Yeah. Generational wealth.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2535" data-t="2535">And, just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2537" data-t="2537">I mean, it was mostly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2539" data-t="2539">it was mostly the guys. It was mostly the, you know, the the people that were real good friends of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2545" data-t="2545">Rev Huddle that are, you know, just true pioneers. I I mean, they're they're definitely, like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2551">42:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2551" data-t="2551">I don't really consider Michael Dunsworth a person,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2555" data-t="2555">you know, at this point because he it's like he's got some</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2559" data-t="2559">he's got the equivalent of Trump derangement syndrome. So I guess I don't really count his crash out as a real crash out because it's just like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2566" data-t="2566">you know, when somebody tells you that Americans wanna be Australians,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2572" data-t="2572">you're you're not a real person at that point. You have just you you Detached.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2577">42:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2577" data-t="2577">Detached from reality.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2579">42:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2579" data-t="2579">Objectively an MPC.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2581" data-t="2581">Objectively an MPC. Like, they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2584" data-t="2584">so it maybe that's why I I just didn't really think much of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2590" data-t="2590">the crash outs,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2593" data-t="2593">because it was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2594" data-t="2594">I don't know. I saw a lot of positivity. I saw a lot of people having fun.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2599">43:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2599" data-t="2599">It was just minus, like, you know, a couple goofballs that there's, like, one guy that lost his predict bet,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2606" data-t="2606">and, he was a little bit grumpy, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2609" data-t="2609">yeah. I don't know.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2611" data-t="2611">It's like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2614" data-t="2614">alright. Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2616" data-t="2616">guys,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2618">43:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2618" data-t="2618">I gotta say,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2621" data-t="2621">I'm glad</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2622" data-t="2622">the maxi</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2624" data-t="2624">madness is over. That was a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2627" data-t="2627">I think we're probably gonna do, like, one more episode discussing it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2631" data-t="2631">We're gonna interview Rev Huddl, the winner,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2636">43:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2636" data-t="2636">but I think we're moving on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2638" data-t="2638">to other things.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2641" data-t="2641">The next big thing on our horizon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2645" data-t="2645">is gonna be Las Vegas.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2647" data-t="2647">Are you ready for Vegas? Are you ready for the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2652" data-t="2652">the Sodom and Gomorrah of the PodCon Super Bowl</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2656">44:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2656" data-t="2656">fraud?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2658">44:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2658" data-t="2658">I ain't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2660" data-t="2660">as ready as I'll ever be. You can never be ready for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2664" data-t="2664">it's gonna be a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2667" data-t="2667">a plot of slot panacea.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2668" data-t="2668">I think the only way that this could be crazier</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2671" data-t="2671">would be if,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2674">44:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2674" data-t="2674">you know, if if Bitcoin was at a 100 k, but is is gonna be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2679" data-t="2679">out of this world, I think.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2681" data-t="2681">I'm but I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to the, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2685" data-t="2685">doing something with Pompa Key, doing something with Matt and Marty. It's gonna be fine. There'll be more details about that, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2691" data-t="2691">stay tuned. But if you're gonna be there, just make sure you get your tickets.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2695">44:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2695" data-t="2695">Yeah. I'm excited to hanging out with, a lot of the friends of the show. Not everybody's gonna be there, this year,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2703" data-t="2703">but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2704" data-t="2704">there's gonna be some some good ones that I'm looking forward to hanging out with.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2711" data-t="2711">Could be hanging out with Avi,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2713" data-t="2713">Burrow, and Open Mic and Noah,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2715" data-t="2715">you know, at the Noster event that we got.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2718">45:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2718" data-t="2718">I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2719" data-t="2719">I'm looking forward to to twisting Marty's knobs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2722" data-t="2722">a little bit in person. It's, like, one of my favorite things to do is,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2727">45:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2727" data-t="2727">I can't wait to talk about AI and Silver with Marty.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2732" data-t="2732">Who else those things?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2734">45:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2734" data-t="2734">He's just he he's funny. Like, he he's a plab that found himself becoming one of the biggest Bitcoin podcasters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2741" data-t="2741">who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2742" data-t="2742">is a millennial that wants to be a Gen Xer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2746" data-t="2746">He's just he's got identity crisises</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2749" data-t="2749">top to bottom. He's so confused.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2755" data-t="2755">I mean, it's just these these lax bros</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2758">45:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2758" data-t="2758">are so funny.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2761" data-t="2761">Did you ever play lacrosse growing up?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2764">46:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2764" data-t="2764">No. No. That was I was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2766" data-t="2766">I was a humble player growing up. I was not a rich elitist. That's like lacrosse is for kids who grew up with a silver spin in their mouth, and that's maybe why Marty likes silver so much. He grew up with a silver spin in his mouth.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2780">46:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2780" data-t="2780">That makes sense.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2782" data-t="2782">It's the it's the kids that grew up with sperrys on their feet,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2786" data-t="2786">wearing Virginia vines.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2788" data-t="2788">We all know Marty was that way.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2794" data-t="2794">And we got it, like, I I think that's pretty much it for us in Vegas. I mean, there's couple events that we're gonna be going to. Probably be going to some parties. It's just,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2803" data-t="2803">hit us up if you're going and you wanna get together with us.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2807">46:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2807" data-t="2807">I might do a smoking meetup. My my keynote speech is gonna be in the the parking lot smoking area.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2814" data-t="2814">Really grateful for Bitcoin Magazine for giving me a keynote slot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2822" data-t="2822">Might as well have, like, a smokey meetup before and after out there.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2828">47:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2828" data-t="2828">Yeah. Well, I we get closer to the event. We'll have more idea of what's going on, what days. We'll be in touch. She'll be able to figure out, find us figure it out you know or if you're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2838" data-t="2838">like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2839" data-t="2839">Shadrach</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2841" data-t="2841">we'll find you and you'll somehow already have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2843" data-t="2843">swag that we haven't even created yet you're already wearing it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2848" data-t="2848">That was still one of the finest</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2850">47:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2850" data-t="2850">situations that were, like, fine. Shadrach found us.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2854">47:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2854" data-t="2854">I don't know how he did it. That was pretty wild.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2858">47:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2858" data-t="2858">Shadrach offered you a cigarette before you even had the chance to introduce yourself.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2863">47:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2863" data-t="2863">Well, he walked up to me with a hat that said credential journalist on it. Like, he</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2870" data-t="2870">I mean, if he could figure out who we are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2872" data-t="2872">without having ever met either of us,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2875" data-t="2875">I guess that does make him</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2877">47:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2877" data-t="2877">a good candidate for credential journalists is pretty wild. But If it was literally anybody else, I would have suspected him as a Fed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2885" data-t="2885">Because Shadrach is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2887" data-t="2887">he's not he's not a Fed. Shadrach is is is the best.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2892">48:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2892" data-t="2892">Yeah. We had a fun night with him that night. That was,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2896">48:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2896" data-t="2896">Yeah. We took Shadrach to the, the Triple Elite Memes Bitcoin Fight Club event, event, the underground, like, big club fight club where need creations got his ass kicked by somebody from town.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2906" data-t="2906">It was crazy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2909">48:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2909" data-t="2909">I don't think you're supposed to talk about it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2911" data-t="2911">the outcome.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2913" data-t="2913">It's like one of the rules of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2915" data-t="2915">TDM fight club. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2919" data-t="2919">we met we met Mars there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2923" data-t="2923">The creations did a did a good job. I would I wouldn't say he</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2927">48:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2927" data-t="2927">he stood his ground. You know, it's like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2930" data-t="2930">for those who have never fought in a ring before,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2933" data-t="2933">just gotta give props where props are due.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2937">48:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2937" data-t="2937">I'm let's put it this way.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2939" data-t="2939">Necreasius is the only plan on my timeline that I see in a regular basis. I would have gotten that. I have to go and have fought, and he did it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2948" data-t="2948">Everybody else talks shit and then, you know, blocks or mutes when people say, hey, sign the waiver.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2954">49:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2954" data-t="2954">Yeah. You don't see should now be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2956" data-t="2956">out there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2958" data-t="2958">fighting in the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2961" data-t="2961">I wonder, yeah, I wonder if they're gonna do another one or not. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2970" data-t="2970">I don't know. I'm pretty excited.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2973" data-t="2973">I'm I'm I'm very excited. Like, the the Ponkoff Super Bowl is just so much fun. It it it has always been the highlight</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2982">49:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2982" data-t="2982">right here. Like, last year, spamming Vegas,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2984" data-t="2984">hanging out with Aaron,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2987" data-t="2987">running around with fundamentals.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2991" data-t="2991">Yeah. There was a lot of lot of things that were pretty entertaining last year.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2995" data-t="2995">Smoking cigarettes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2999" data-t="2999">listening to the,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3001">50:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3001" data-t="3001">Satoshi Rakimoto.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3003" data-t="3003">They were actually pretty good.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3005" data-t="3005">I I I figured that Satoshi Nakamoto would just be pure unadulterated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3010" data-t="3010">plub slot music, but, like, it was they they had some pretty talented musicians in it, and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3015" data-t="3015">I was impressed. Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3018" data-t="3018">Nico's wife, Sophie, is a very talented singer</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3022">50:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3022" data-t="3022">from Simply Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3025" data-t="3025">She blew me away.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3027">50:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3027" data-t="3027">She's got she's the most talented person at Simply Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3031" data-t="3031">for sure. Right.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3032">50:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3032" data-t="3032">I agree.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3036" data-t="3036">But yeah. So, you know, the war is going on. There you know, people are still kinda discussing whether they think BB's dead or not. If, it is confirmed that BB's dead, do you think the war stops? Like, Trump doesn't have to worry about getting killed anymore? Or what do you think the I I think Dimi's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3051">50:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3051" data-t="3051">talking about, like, in annexing all of South Lebanon and, like, they're, like, extending their</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3057" data-t="3057">fort,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3058" data-t="3058">their</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3059" data-t="3059">defense</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3060" data-t="3060">posture or whatever, getting ready to invade.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3063" data-t="3063">I don't see any navy maybe I've just been busy with Maxey Mattis, but I don't see too many people talking about BB being dead anymore. And he sounds like he's leading</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3071">51:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3071" data-t="3071">an invasion of the IGF into,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3074" data-t="3074">South Lebanon.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3077">51:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3077" data-t="3077">Him personally?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3080" data-t="3080">He's going, like, fully Lindsey Graham front lines, Peter Todd style?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3084">51:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3084" data-t="3084">Yes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3086" data-t="3086">That's a yeah. That's possible.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3088" data-t="3088">I don't know if he's gonna be on the front front lines, or he might be, like, behind</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3092" data-t="3092">he might be I mean, he's gonna be using some Israeli plebs as cannon fodder because that's what plebs are for. So as long as they have some plebs as cannon fodder, they're gonna use them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3103" data-t="3103">But, you know, if they run a cannon fodder, it could be BB on the front lines.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3107" data-t="3107">I mean having six fingers</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3111">51:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3111" data-t="3111">is a huge benefit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3113" data-t="3113">to being on the front lines because you can you have your trigger finger plus more you have extra grip for aim,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3119" data-t="3119">you could you could you could you can also smoke a cigarette more easily if you have six fingers. So, yeah, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3126" data-t="3126">I would watch out you do not want I mean if if you know anything about BB like he's not he may be old now but motherfucker is a war hero.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3135" data-t="3135">Him and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3137" data-t="3137">Ehud Barak</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3139">52:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3139" data-t="3139">the one of the other former prime ministers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3141" data-t="3141">those dudes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3142" data-t="3142">have killed a lot</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3145" data-t="3145">of Muslim plebs,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3146" data-t="3146">and they're not not let me tell you.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3150">52:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3150" data-t="3150">Yeah. I mean, I I I guess</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3152" data-t="3152">what's so different about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3155" data-t="3155">the war in Israel is, you know, when you're sitting in Tel Aviv, that's essentially, like, the front lines, right, just because of proximity.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3162" data-t="3162">Is the country so small?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3164" data-t="3164">Like, you</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3166">52:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3166" data-t="3166">you you look at what you're getting hit by hypersonic missiles on your flank, or you're trying to fight</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3172" data-t="3172">Hezbollah</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3174" data-t="3174">in front of you, and you haven't even left your front your front porch.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3180">52:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3180" data-t="3180">Like, Donald Trump's hanging out in Mar A Lago. That's very different than,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3184" data-t="3184">you know, being in Tel Aviv on the ground. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3187" data-t="3187">so props to Mike Huckabee. He's been on the, the front lines of the the war this whole time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3193" data-t="3193">Because he's a lot more, brave than a lot of,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3197">53:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3197" data-t="3197">you know, the Arab politicians.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3198" data-t="3198">I don't know if Mike Huckabee has lost weight because he's been fighting war or if he's on Ozempic, but Mike Huckabee is looking like Mike Brock these days. He's looking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3208" data-t="3208">quite thin, quite fit.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3211">53:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3211" data-t="3211">Oh, did I did I tell you that I got to chat with Mike Brock</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3215">53:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3215" data-t="3215">last week in Twitter spaces? Yeah. Look, you told me. I don't know if you told the listeners.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3223">53:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3223" data-t="3223">Yeah. I have, like, a twenty minute recording of me,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3226" data-t="3226">talking to Mike Brock a little bit, and, it was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3230" data-t="3230">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3231" data-t="3231">a pretty entertaining</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3233" data-t="3233">discussion as usual. It was just, you know, Mike,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3237" data-t="3237">doing the typical glazing himself. Like, his his new,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3241">54:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3241" data-t="3241">evolution of crash out is he likes to, use a British accent sometimes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3247" data-t="3247">And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3249">54:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3249" data-t="3249">it's just How did he how did he respond to you calling him a subjectivist</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3253" data-t="3253">philosopher?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3255">54:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3255" data-t="3255">I I did I wasn't the one that called him that. That was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3259" data-t="3259">another guy, I forgot what his name is, like, hash browns or something like that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3264" data-t="3264">I think that's a great that's great framing.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3268">54:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3268" data-t="3268">As soon as this, as soon as we're done recording, I'm about to hop in spaces. Hash Browns is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3273" data-t="3273">is how soon the Sunday swerve. I'm gonna go talk to those guys.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3279">54:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3279" data-t="3279">I I think that's a great framing of either you're an objectivist or you're a subjectivist.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3285" data-t="3285">It's like</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3287">54:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3287" data-t="3287">It's true. It's the it's the philosopher binary.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3292">54:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3292" data-t="3292">It's like either you're,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3294" data-t="3294">you're a maxi or you're a spammer or a shitcoin. Right? Like, there there's no</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3300" data-t="3300">nuance to it. It's very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3302" data-t="3302">black or white.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3304" data-t="3304">I mean, that's gonna be you know, Mike was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3307" data-t="3307">the the first thing in the space. You know, Mike was pumping himself up about how he's planning on, demolishing Curtis Yarvin</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3315">55:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3315" data-t="3315">in that debate. And I gotta say,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3319" data-t="3319">is that gonna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3321" data-t="3321">be fun to watch? You know, Mike Barack</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3325" data-t="3325">has the potential</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3328" data-t="3328">to save our democracy by demolishing Curtis Yavin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3331" data-t="3331">Yavin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3332">55:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3332" data-t="3332">Like, everything</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3334" data-t="3334">is on his shoulders</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3335" data-t="3335">right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3337" data-t="3337">He he was bragging about how he he's not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3341" data-t="3341">he he was bragging about how he's not gonna do any debate prep,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3345" data-t="3345">that he's ready for it, that he was born ready for it. He doesn't feel like he needs to.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3353">55:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3353" data-t="3353">It's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3355" data-t="3355">it's gonna be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3356" data-t="3356">I mean, I've never I don't think I have ever,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3360" data-t="3360">in my entire life, been excited</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3363" data-t="3363">about conference programming</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3365" data-t="3365">at Bitcoin</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3366">56:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3366" data-t="3366">at the club slot Super Bowl, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3369" data-t="3369">or Polycom Super Bowl, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3373" data-t="3373">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3374" data-t="3374">one</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3375" data-t="3375">is gonna be ground shaking.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3378" data-t="3378">It's, like, you know</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3380">56:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3380" data-t="3380">Yeah. I wanna miss that one for sure. It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3383" data-t="3383">it's going to determine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3386" data-t="3386">today's term in the midterms actually.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3389" data-t="3389">So if you want if you want an alpha</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3391" data-t="3391">to vote in the prediction markets for who's gonna win the midterms,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3396" data-t="3396">just watch to see who wins between Mike Brock and Curtis Yarvin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3399">56:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3399" data-t="3399">So, like, for people that don't know who Curtis Yarvin is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3404" data-t="3404">he's essentially like Peter Thiel, JD Vance's favorite podcaster.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3410" data-t="3410">And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3413">56:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3413" data-t="3413">I I think that if my He used to be on Twitter as Mencius Mold Bug, and he was a Twitter troll, very, very offensive,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3421" data-t="3421">alt right,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3423" data-t="3423">you know, adjacent,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3424" data-t="3424">maybe a little a monarchist</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3426" data-t="3426">for sure. He's been on Peter McCormick's podcast a few times.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3430" data-t="3430">He's recently posted pictures. He's been hanging out with Alex Soros which</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3435">57:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3435" data-t="3435">is kind of a troll but kind of funny. But, yeah, he he is the he is the monarchist</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3440" data-t="3440">like he's not a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3444" data-t="3444">he's not a credentialed philosopher like Mike Brachios,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3447" data-t="3447">but he is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3449" data-t="3449">a a very talented</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3451" data-t="3451">sophist,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3454">57:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3454" data-t="3454">and he he has the ears and the attention</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3457" data-t="3457">of some very prominent</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3459" data-t="3459">figures on the right</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3461" data-t="3461">and he's a sophisticated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3464" data-t="3464">boss for like Mike even if he's not credentialed,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3467" data-t="3467">but he has been the alter he's been Mike Brock's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3471">57:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3471" data-t="3471">nemesis, his op, his rival</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3474" data-t="3474">whether he knows it or not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3476" data-t="3476">for for years now and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3479" data-t="3479">I he's coming into this I hope he doesn't fade Mike Brock</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3483" data-t="3483">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3484" data-t="3484">because Mike Brock's not is not fading Curtis.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3488">58:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3488" data-t="3488">Well, the Mike Brock is fading Curtis, actually.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3491" data-t="3491">That that that's what he was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3494" data-t="3494">saying in the Twitter spaces. But, you know Oof.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3497">58:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3497" data-t="3497">But he made that mistake with you, and it did not turn out well.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3503">58:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3503" data-t="3503">You know, it's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3506" data-t="3506">I don't know. It's it's gonna be, you know, fascinating to watch. I,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3512" data-t="3512">I'm wondering if Mike Brock beats Curtis Yarvin in this debate. Like, does that mean that he you know, individuals like Peter Thiel will want Mike Brock to be their</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3525" data-t="3525">resident</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3525">philosopher</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3526" data-t="3526">in the future. Well,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3528">58:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3528" data-t="3528">Mike Brock now does Mike Brock live every every weekday at 4PM,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3534" data-t="3534">Eastern or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3535" data-t="3535">I don't know. He does it at 4PM,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3537" data-t="3537">sometimes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3539" data-t="3539">and if Mike Brock wins, he might Mike Brock,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3542" data-t="3542">in the afternoon, might be sponsored by Ballantir.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3548">59:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3548" data-t="3548">You know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3549" data-t="3549">the last thing I'll say on this topic, but I I had a funny exchange with Mike where,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3554" data-t="3554">you know, I asked him his thoughts on the Epstein list.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3556" data-t="3556">And then he proceeded to brag about how he has more friends on the Epstein list than any of us in that Twitter space.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3563" data-t="3563">That was his immediate reaction. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3566" data-t="3566">you know, the reason why I asked him was because I tried to bring it up during the debate,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3570">59:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3570" data-t="3570">and, he wrote me off. But, you know, since then, he's been very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3575" data-t="3575">vocal about discussing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3577" data-t="3577">the Epstein list. And I you know, he was expressing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3581" data-t="3581">his extreme shock with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3583" data-t="3583">how serious and pervasive it it was. And I explained to him, Mike,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3588" data-t="3588">if you'd been listening to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast years ago, you would have known about all this shit recently.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3595">59:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3595" data-t="3595">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3599" data-t="3599">he didn't really appreciate that. He he he was he disagreed with that even though we all know it's true because we we all knew about the Epstein list a long, long time ago.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3613" data-t="3613">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3614" data-t="3614">And I learned that he drives a McLaren.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3617" data-t="3617">Or, well, he doesn't drive it, but he has a McLaren.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3621">1:00:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3621" data-t="3621">That was Yeah. Is it that he doesn't drive it?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3625">1:00:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3625" data-t="3625">He said he hasn't driven it for a long time because he</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3629" data-t="3629">like, a McLaren is not really like a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3632" data-t="3632">daily driver.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3634">1:00:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3634" data-t="3634">Right?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3635">1:00:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3635" data-t="3635">It's like something you take out to the track. He said he hasn't had time to go to the track because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3641" data-t="3641">he's too busy, you know, podcasting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3643" data-t="3643">in order to save our democracy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3647">1:00:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3647" data-t="3647">Writing a lot of essays for sure.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3650">1:00:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3650" data-t="3650">I mean, that's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3652" data-t="3652">that's some sacrifice if I've ever heard of sacrifice, not driving your McLaren</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3656" data-t="3656">to podcast and save our democracy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3661" data-t="3661">Well, folks,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3662" data-t="3662">I guess one of the final topics I wanted to talk about is just,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3667" data-t="3667">you know, Bitcoin's role in, protecting</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3670">1:01:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3670" data-t="3670">our</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3671" data-t="3671">American financial privilege. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3675" data-t="3675">you know, I was talking with this interesting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3678" data-t="3678">guy, you know, that I've sort of made friends with on Twitter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3681" data-t="3681">in the last couple years. His name is Bam.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3685" data-t="3685">He's a Syrian guy. He has, the biggest Arabic speaking Bitcoin publication in the world,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3691">1:01:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3691" data-t="3691">very intelligent guy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3693" data-t="3693">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3694" data-t="3694">one of the things that he was talking about is about how American culture</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3699" data-t="3699">drives</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3700" data-t="3700">Bitcoin culture.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3702" data-t="3702">And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3703">1:01:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3703" data-t="3703">you know, one of the things I explained to him on the on the Twitter space is the the the reason why is because as Americans, we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3712" data-t="3712">we truly value our financial privilege.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3716" data-t="3716">Other people around the world, you know, they don't they don't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3719" data-t="3719">really value it. You would you know, there's lots of people that are talking about, like, Nigerian Bitcoin adoption, you know, these countries that have extreme hyperinflation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3727" data-t="3727">where it should be pretty obvious that they should be using Bitcoin, but, you know, they don't really do it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3736" data-t="3736">They just don't value their financial privilege</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3739">1:02:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3739" data-t="3739">very much. Like, it's just not something that's very important to them because they've never experienced it before. But here in The United States,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3746" data-t="3746">we value our financial privilege, and I I think that's why Donald Trump</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3751" data-t="3751">continues to say</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3753" data-t="3753">nice things about Bitcoin even though he keeps on doing things that make the price go down.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3758">1:02:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3758" data-t="3758">Yeah, yeah, it's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3760" data-t="3760">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3762" data-t="3762">Bitcoin was invented by Jeffrey Epstein to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3767" data-t="3767">protect</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3768" data-t="3768">Western financial privilege,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3770" data-t="3770">and I think just because we disagree with some of Jeffrey Epstein's political</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3775">1:02:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3775" data-t="3775">opinions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3776" data-t="3776">doesn't mean that we should,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3778" data-t="3778">we should fade this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3780" data-t="3780">generational opportunity to protect protect our our Western privilege. I mean, Western</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3785" data-t="3785">financial privilege is built on on Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3789" data-t="3789">and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3790">1:03:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3790" data-t="3790">and and trafficking and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3793" data-t="3793">you can't just because you disagree with it doesn't mean that some of those things doesn't mean you will let your privilege,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3800" data-t="3800">slip through your fingers.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3804">1:03:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3804" data-t="3804">I don't think that Jeffrey Epstein created Bitcoin, and I don't appreciate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3808" data-t="3808">you citing Aaron Day as a legitimate source on this podcast, Ron.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3813" data-t="3813">We all know that it's Peter Todd.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3816">1:03:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3816" data-t="3816">Well, here's how he wrote c plus plus, I think, for sure.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3820" data-t="3820">But he was, you know, Peter Todd when he wrote c plus plus he was, like, 14, 15 years old.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3826" data-t="3826">Who was he doing it for? He was being trafficked by by Jeffrey Epstein.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3831">1:03:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3831" data-t="3831">Alright. Well, that's a roundabout way to look at it. I don't know.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3836" data-t="3836">Alright. Well, we'll just we'll just leave this one at Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3839">1:03:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3839" data-t="3839">I'm just saying, just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3841" data-t="3841">this listen. This is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3843" data-t="3843">there's no there's no fact based evidence for this. This is pure Plevslop speculation. I'm just saying, you have to be prepared for that to be true and and you still can't sell your Bitcoin just because of that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3856">1:04:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3856" data-t="3856">I'm gonna have to have Rudy Rudy Dazleworth come after you if you keep on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3860" data-t="3860">performing this Plebslop,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3863" data-t="3863">journalism.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3864" data-t="3864">You're gonna you're gonna win a plebslop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3866" data-t="3866">Pulitzer rod?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3869">1:04:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3869" data-t="3869">I won't put it in my trophy case.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3872">1:04:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3872" data-t="3872">Well, you got any other things you wanna discuss before we go to the Fallon boost?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3876">1:04:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3876" data-t="3876">No. Let's get to the boost.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3879">1:04:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3879" data-t="3879">Just gotta say, I I think the last episode that we did was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3883" data-t="3883">around the two year anniversary of the show. So we've been around for two years, folks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3888" data-t="3888">It's been an incredible journey. It's been fun. Thank you for, joining the ride with us. I didn't read our</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3894" data-t="3894">subscribers last week, which I'll make sure to do this week because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3899" data-t="3899">found it wasn't working.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3901">1:05:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3901" data-t="3901">But just it hasn't changed in, like, seven months. I think you could just record that and just play the recording over and over each week.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3909">1:05:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3909" data-t="3909">Well, I like to rerecord to keep it fresh.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3913" data-t="3913">But, yeah, it's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3915" data-t="3915">it just takes a second. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3917" data-t="3917">first boost, late stage huddle, 6,000,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3920" data-t="3920">six sats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3921" data-t="3921">Maxi Madness is greater than SportsBall Madness.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3928">1:05:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3928" data-t="3928">Yeah. You know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3930" data-t="3930">I'm in, like, a a good chat with my family. They keep on talking about the sports ball madness, and I have no idea what's going on. Have you have you been watching it at all? What's going on with the Fiat madness?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3940">1:05:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3940" data-t="3940">Oh, yeah. It's great. I love March Madness. March Madness is great.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3946" data-t="3946">Some really good teams going to the final four.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3949" data-t="3949">If you're a Big Ten fan, it's about to be looks like possibly three Big Ten teams, so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3956" data-t="3956">big big year for them.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3959">1:05:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3959" data-t="3959">Who's in it? I assume I I keep on seeing these texts about Arizona. Illinois,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3964">1:06:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3964" data-t="3964">Arizona,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3966" data-t="3966">Michigan is walloping</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3967" data-t="3967">Tennessee right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3969" data-t="3969">So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3972" data-t="3972">this should be them and then the winner of Duke versus Yukon.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3977">1:06:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3977" data-t="3977">What round are they on?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3979">1:06:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3979" data-t="3979">This is in the Elite Eight. So Okay.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3982" data-t="3982">Yeah. There's one game left after this Michigan, Tennessee game and it'll be,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3987" data-t="3987">Duke versus Yukon, and then the final four will be Illinois,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3992" data-t="3992">yeah, Arizona,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3993" data-t="3993">Michigan, and Duke or Yukon.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3998">1:06:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3998" data-t="3998">Well, I'm surprised that University of Phoenix</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4001" data-t="4001">online</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4002" data-t="4002">isn't represented</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4004" data-t="4004">in the Elite Eight. They they were pretty good at at basketball when you went there. Right?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4010">1:06:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4010" data-t="4010">Yeah. They were incredible.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4012" data-t="4012">Absolutely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4013" data-t="4013">dominated the local YMCA teams.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4017">1:06:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4017" data-t="4017">Bitcoin University definitely wasn't invited.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4020" data-t="4020">Do you think Bitcoin University could even get invited to the NIT?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4027">1:07:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4027" data-t="4027">No chance, sir. I didn't invited to anything.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4031" data-t="4031">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4032" data-t="4032">5,000 salves from Sasha Hodder.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4036" data-t="4036">Congrats</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4037" data-t="4037">on a great Maxi Madness. Thank you, Sasha.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4040" data-t="4040">Listen, the way</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4042">1:07:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4042" data-t="4042">Sasha's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4043" data-t="4043">bump and comer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4044" data-t="4044">I would look for Sasha in the hot bracket</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4047" data-t="4047">region</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4048" data-t="4048">next year as a potential,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4051" data-t="4051">new blend. There's gonna be a lot of retired</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4053">1:07:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4053" data-t="4053">Maxis,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4055" data-t="4055">retired for Maxi Mandos next year, I think, and to make room for some</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4059" data-t="4059">some fresh blood like Sasha. So thank you for the, thank you for the boost, Sasha.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4066">1:07:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4066" data-t="4066">Thank you for the boost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4069" data-t="4069">Next boost, 4242¢</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4071" data-t="4071">says,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4073" data-t="4073">Pleb</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4075" data-t="4075">e a non. Do you think the Iranians are giant Steppenwolf fans?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4080" data-t="4080">Yeah. I assume that they'll probably listen to Magic Carpet Ride when they're flying around chasing,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4086">1:08:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4086" data-t="4086">you know, the fighter jets.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4090">1:08:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4090" data-t="4090">Absolutely. Next based, Eldred Mike, 3,333</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4093" data-t="4093">sats Maxi Madness equals a zap bull market.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4097" data-t="4097">Yes, we got 200 or 2,800,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4101" data-t="4101">boosted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4102" data-t="4102">in Maxi Madness this year,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4104" data-t="4104">that was</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4105">1:08:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4105" data-t="4105">incredible, thanks for everybody who participated,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4108" data-t="4108">definitely a zapped bull market</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4110" data-t="4110">sign that's been us trending.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4113">1:08:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4113" data-t="4113">Yeah, it's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4115" data-t="4115">I think we set the all time record, you know, for, like, a single user getting zaps</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4120" data-t="4120">on that platform</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4123" data-t="4123">at one time in a week. Like, at at one point, just at one end of the polls, the the final between Odell and Rev Huddl, there was a million sats on that single poll.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4133" data-t="4133">There was a wide range</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4136" data-t="4136">in values</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4137">1:08:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4137" data-t="4137">on all of the the different polls.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4141" data-t="4141">You know, it was just kinda</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4143" data-t="4143">funny to watch. Like, you know, some people, they're resulting in, like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4148" data-t="4148">I mean, there'd be, like, 20 votes on it or something, but it'd be, like, 2,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4153" data-t="4153">to, like, a 100 sats or something like that. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4158" data-t="4158">I mean, what what was just crazy is 1.2 Bitcoin traded on the previous markets.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4164">1:09:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4164" data-t="4164">Like, people are willing to throw around their Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4168" data-t="4168">It's just about finding creative ways to to extract it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4173" data-t="4173">We're we're always looking for new ways to extract Bitcoin from you guys.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4178" data-t="4178">Thank you for the boost open mic.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4181" data-t="4181">Nope. 757</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4183" data-t="4183">says awesome job with Maxi Madness. The crash outs were a 100.</span></span></p> +