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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-0">0:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-0" data-t="0">Well, it's been a strange week, folks. This is Buster Cherry, and I wanna thank you for joining me today for another edition of the Bugle Weekly Headlines.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-13" data-t="13">From the president throwing himself a military parade birthday party to the Jews bombing people again, this week was marked with violent upheaval.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-22" data-t="22">Assassination markets struck Minnesota as two state politicians were murdered in their homes. And all across the country, there were mostly peaceful protests. With that and more, we go to smoking hot bugle news correspondent,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-33">0:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kailey Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-33" data-t="33">Kaylee Welch. Thanks, Buster. It truly was a strange week. Besides the protesting bombing and antics from the president, this week was defined by paper Bitcoin companies, also known as PBCs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-43" data-t="43">Steven Lupka debuted a new broccoli haircut as he announced that he would be joining David Bailey's PBC called Nakamoto.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-51" data-t="51">The company's business model is to do everything in their power in order to make Pleditor mad. Maggie Morris had some criticism for Lubka, citing that she thought he was hotter when he was selling actual Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-62" data-t="62">instead of paper Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-64" data-t="64">I would definitely have to agree with that sentiment. Justin Beckler is setting sail on what people are calling the filter flotilla.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-70" data-t="70">He is sailing to Gaza to provide Palestinians with desperately needed knots nodes in order to filter Israel's offensive inscriptions they are spamming Iran with. Benjamin Netanyahu announced on Saturday that he would be spamming Iranian Bitcoin wallets with offensive inscriptions of the prophet Mohammed, meaning that the whole Muslim world would have to host them on their Bitcoin nodes. Beckler feels that any Muslim should have the right to filter out offensive spam and that it is his responsibility</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-94">1:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kailey Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-94" data-t="94">to teach them how.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-95" data-t="95">And finally, Santa has chosen to go with the predators list this year in determining who is naughty or nice. He turned down the bid from Peter Thiel, citing he found the amount of information presented as rather creepy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-107" data-t="107">Unfortunately,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-108" data-t="108">this likely means that everyone at the bugle will be receiving coal this year because Pleditor is a little bitch and doesn't respect credentialed journalism.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-116" data-t="116">To wrap it up, I just wanna say happy Father's Day, and thank you to my dad.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-121" data-t="121">Dad, you taught me how to drive drunk, put me through college, and bought me my first pack of cigarettes.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-126">2:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kailey Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-126" data-t="126">Thanks for always being there and for listening to the podcast.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-129">2:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-129" data-t="129">Well, it sounds like you have a great dad, Kaylee, explains why you are so sharp. As a man, there is no job more important in the world than being a father. Happy Father's Day to all those strong men listening to forty hours per week so they can accurately understand the world and take care of their families.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-147" data-t="147">This is Buster Cherry. And this is Kaylee Welch. I wanna thank you for tuning in to another edition of the Bugle weekly headlines.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-164">2:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-164" data-t="164">Thank you, Buster and Kaylee, for the opening.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-167" data-t="167">Wonderful as usual. It has been a strange week, folks. It's been a strange week indeed. A lot has happened.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-174" data-t="174">A lot has happened. Well, we've been monitoring the situation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-178" data-t="178">very closely, but we'll get into that as we get into the episode.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-182" data-t="182">Before we start monitoring</span> <span class="cue" id="t-184" data-t="184">the situation,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-186">3:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-186" data-t="186">I just want to wish everybody a happy Father's Day</span> <span class="cue" id="t-189" data-t="189">out there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-191" data-t="191">Being a father,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-193" data-t="193">most important job in the world. You're running the node for the family.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-197" data-t="197">You're listening to forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts a week so that you know what's going on in the world, that you can make the correct decisions.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-203" data-t="203">You know what the trends are, you know which</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-207">3:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-207" data-t="207">wallets</span> <span class="cue" id="t-208" data-t="208">are the best,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-209" data-t="209">which influencers to be dunking on.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-212" data-t="212">You're you're listening to 48</span> <span class="cue" id="t-213" data-t="213">HPW</span> <span class="cue" id="t-214" data-t="214">for your family.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-216">3:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-216" data-t="216">And Father's Day is the day to celebrate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-219" data-t="219">that, to celebrate the father who's doing a good job</span> <span class="cue" id="t-223" data-t="223">showing up</span> <span class="cue" id="t-224" data-t="224">for his family.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-226" data-t="226">And if you're listening to this podcast, that's probably you. You're probably a great dad.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-232" data-t="232">So</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-232">3:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" data-t="232">take a moment,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-234" data-t="234">smoke a cigarette,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-235" data-t="235">smoke a cigar,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-236" data-t="236">pat yourself on the back. What did,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-239">3:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-239" data-t="239">what did you do to celebrate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-242" data-t="242">your father for Father's Day? Did you do anything special? I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-247" data-t="247">you know, you're you were a little too old</span> <span class="cue" id="t-249" data-t="249">to to to have to Colonel Walker, remembering your father, running the node for the family.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-256" data-t="256">But you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-258" data-t="258">what are one of the, what are the things you use to show your appreciation?</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-262">4:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-262" data-t="262">Well, unfortunately,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-263" data-t="263">actually my father died. He got hit by a bus a few years ago,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-268" data-t="268">before</span> <span class="cue" id="t-269" data-t="269">I was actually orange pilled. So he never had the opportunity to run the node for,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-274" data-t="274">my family. But you know, on Father's Day I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-278" data-t="278">really take time to appreciate him.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-281">4:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-281" data-t="281">And one of the ways that I do that is I try to do things with my son</span> <span class="cue" id="t-285" data-t="285">that he did with me. So I took my son out, we were cleaning the typewriter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-290" data-t="290">oiling it down,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-291" data-t="291">smoking cigarettes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-293" data-t="293">spending some good time listening to the radio in the garage</span> <span class="cue" id="t-298" data-t="298">and tossing the baseball</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-300">4:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-300" data-t="300">back and forth.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-302" data-t="302">It was a really nice</span> <span class="cue" id="t-304" data-t="304">time. I mean, for me,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-307" data-t="307">I see Father's Day</span> <span class="cue" id="t-310" data-t="310">is like a time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-311" data-t="311">of remembrance</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-312">5:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-312" data-t="312">of my dad</span> <span class="cue" id="t-314" data-t="314">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-315" data-t="315">that bus driver</span> <span class="cue" id="t-316" data-t="316">that ran him over,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-318" data-t="318">But more so my dad,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-320" data-t="320">than the bus driver,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-321">5:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-321" data-t="321">but I have to think about him, unfortunately.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-324" data-t="324">Would, would your dad have been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-327" data-t="327">a a core dad or a not dad? Would your family been running knots or core if he was around and you were and you were growing up? That's a good question. I mean, I I don't know. Wait.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-338">5:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-338" data-t="338">My dad wasn't really ever a technology guy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-341" data-t="341">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-343" data-t="343">I don't know what he would have been. He probably would have just said,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-348" data-t="348">screw it, I'm running like an old version of Core, whichever first version he ever ran.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-355" data-t="355">He's he'd probably be the guy that was running core, didn't pay attention to anything that was going on, never updated his node,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-362" data-t="362">couldn't be bothered by</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-364">6:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-364" data-t="364">any of it. Just head down, chugging away,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-368" data-t="368">trying to take care of his family.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-370" data-t="370">Completely more obvious to the noise</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-373">6:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-373" data-t="373">out there. Yeah. That's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-375" data-t="375">you know, that's a beauty of Bitcoin. You don't have to up meet your note. People think that when core pushes a change to the opportunity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-382" data-t="382">that you don't have to update it. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-385" data-t="385">for this year,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-387" data-t="387">one of the things I got my father</span> <span class="cue" id="t-389" data-t="389">a bid ax,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-390">6:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-390" data-t="390">and, I also helped him upgrade his node to bugle core. And so I think it's a good time to take an opportunity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-399" data-t="399">to let our listeners know that there is a third option. Now, I don't usually think that a third party,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-406" data-t="406">so to speak, is a very productive,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-411" data-t="411">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-412" data-t="412">way to express</span> <span class="cue" id="t-414" data-t="414">your opinions about consensus. But Bitcoin</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-418">6:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-418" data-t="418">is a is a true democracy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-421" data-t="421">where the node runners decide. And in a true democracy like this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-426" data-t="426">being able to run a a third option. So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-430" data-t="430">it does make a difference. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-433" data-t="433">if you go to view, you know, we should I don't know why we don't have the GitHub</span> <span class="cue" id="t-439" data-t="439">listed on our website.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-442">7:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-442" data-t="442">We should probably get that up there. We should probably put that in the show notes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-446" data-t="446">And I think that if you're interested in Buick or you should check that out.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-451" data-t="451">And maybe we'll even get BTC sessions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-454" data-t="454">to do a tutorial</span> <span class="cue" id="t-455" data-t="455">about how to run Google core.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-457" data-t="457">And potentially,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-458">7:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-458" data-t="458">we could get it on start nine in Umbrel. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-462" data-t="462">there's gonna be some cool features coming along to Google core. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-467" data-t="467">if you are like us,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-471" data-t="471">just keep monitoring the situation.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-473" data-t="473">And more more exciting announcements along that line will be sure to be coming down the pipe. Totally. One of the reasons why I haven't really pushed people core a whole lot is,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-484">8:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-484" data-t="484">I haven't been very active at maintaining it since I published it. So it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-491" data-t="491">it's been a couple weeks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-492" data-t="492">I have not,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-494" data-t="494">I'm probably behind</span> <span class="cue" id="t-496" data-t="496">Luke Junior</span> <span class="cue" id="t-497" data-t="497">as far as merging whatever, you know, updates or</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-501">8:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-501" data-t="501">or things other than the controversial pull request.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-505" data-t="505">So I need I need to get back on it. If people show interest in it, if if you're interested in running BugleCore, I'll actually spend time,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-513">8:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-513" data-t="513">making sure that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-515" data-t="515">If if if you want to maintain if you would like if you are a developer who knows C plus plus</span> <span class="cue" id="t-520" data-t="520">and you would like to help maintain Bugle Core,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-523" data-t="523">reach out to us.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-525" data-t="525">Unlike</span> <span class="cue" id="t-526" data-t="526">unlike</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-527">8:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-527" data-t="527">the other,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-529" data-t="529">core you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-530" data-t="530">node implementations,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-532" data-t="532">bucol cord dads</span> <span class="cue" id="t-533" data-t="533">are not only allowed to have sex, we encourage</span> <span class="cue" id="t-537" data-t="537">it. There's a lot of controversy</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-539">8:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-539" data-t="539">about the core dads that shouldn't be a big people think they're clergy, they think they're like the priests in the Vatican.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-545" data-t="545">That's not that's not how bucol core works, you can have hell you can have gay sex, you're, it's all allowed, if you're a bucol core depth. So if, you know, if you had that anarchist, you know, screw</span> <span class="cue" id="t-557" data-t="557">society type attitude.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-560" data-t="560">And you don't like being told that you can't have sex just because you have to code in c plus plus</span> <span class="cue" id="t-566" data-t="566">take a look at Google core and reach out to us, we will, we would love</span> <span class="cue" id="t-570" data-t="570">to have qualified devs who have are very aligned with our</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-575">9:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-575" data-t="575">values and vision,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-577" data-t="577">run helping us maintain that and building new features that other implementations may not even have. Totally. So</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-584">9:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-584" data-t="584">yeah. Let let's go back to Father's Day. So you set your dad up with Buickore.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-589" data-t="589">You got him</span> <span class="cue" id="t-590" data-t="590">running on a bid ax.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-593" data-t="593">Does that make him a plab, or is he a pioneer?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-596" data-t="596">Because the plabs are the ones that run-in the bid axes.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-600">9:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-600" data-t="600">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-602" data-t="602">I I can't remember who was in the group chat,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-605" data-t="605">but they need a really good point this weekend that not everybody goes from being a Fiat normie</span> <span class="cue" id="t-613" data-t="613">to a pioneer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-614" data-t="614">Some people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-616" data-t="616">do</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-617">10:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-617" data-t="617">go through the plaid</span> <span class="cue" id="t-619" data-t="619">transition.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-620" data-t="620">And my dad's one of those people. He's he is right now. He is a plaid. He is a plaid. He is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-626" data-t="626">a paper Bitcoiner. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-628" data-t="628">he does write a note. He does have some Bitcoin, but he is a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-633" data-t="633">MSTR</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-635">10:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-635" data-t="635">paper Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-636" data-t="636">respecter. He really likes it. So we're it's it's it's a pragmatic,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-643" data-t="643">practical</span> <span class="cue" id="t-644" data-t="644">transition. I'm trying to help him</span> <span class="cue" id="t-646" data-t="646">get to that pioneer stage.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-648" data-t="648">But, you know, he's old, you know, as he grew up, he said he used to be what you grew up. You had the belief. You didn't have to believe what the TV told you, but a lot of boomers did.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-658">10:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-658" data-t="658">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-660" data-t="660">the a lot of boomers, they they kind of grew wise to, you know, there's a lot of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-664" data-t="664">these to say, don't believe everything that TV tells you. Well, they fell for that and they learned. But now the boomers, they believe everything the Internet tells them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-672" data-t="672">And so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-673" data-t="673">trying to help wean him off of the the Facebook memes and the Facebook AI slop that, he</span> <span class="cue" id="t-681" data-t="681">consumes uncritically</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-684">11:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-684" data-t="684">is is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-686" data-t="686">it's it's not gonna happen overnight, but he has a pioneer spirit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-690" data-t="690">You know, so I think that we can get to it. I think this is,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-694">11:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-694" data-t="694">what you're describing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-696" data-t="696">it's a new challenge. So I think a lot of people have been trying to convince their parents</span> <span class="cue" id="t-701" data-t="701">to go from being no coiners to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-704" data-t="704">at least owning something.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-707" data-t="707">And that seems like that's getting accomplished, but now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-711" data-t="711">it's like people are trying to</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-715">11:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-715" data-t="715">orange peel their parents to not be paper Bitcoiners.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-719" data-t="719">That's the new battle</span> <span class="cue" id="t-721" data-t="721">around the table</span> <span class="cue" id="t-723" data-t="723">around holidays.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-725" data-t="725">It's not trying to explain to them the history of money.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-729" data-t="729">He's trying to explain to them</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-732">12:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-732" data-t="732">the issues with being a paper Bitcoiner.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-735" data-t="735">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-737" data-t="737">I don't know, what do you think are compelling arguments for this?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-741" data-t="741">I think the boomers are looking at it. They're like, the TV says paper Bitcoin's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-747" data-t="747">good. Michael Saylor likes it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-751" data-t="751">and it seems like Bitcoin's most viable scaling solution.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-756">12:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-756" data-t="756">How do you counter those arguments</span> <span class="cue" id="t-759" data-t="759">in, in a way that boomers can hear</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-762">12:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-762" data-t="762">it?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-763" data-t="763">My. My dad was actually really receptive</span> <span class="cue" id="t-767" data-t="767">to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-768" data-t="768">withdrawing to cold storage and, and holding his keys.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-771" data-t="771">But my mom, it was my mom's fault, honestly. And it's I don't blame her. She doesn't really get it. She was just, you know, kind of just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-780" data-t="780">going off of</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-781">13:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-781" data-t="781">what she knows, but she kept talking about how my she my dad always loses his car keys. He's always misplaced in his car keys, and she's always having to help them look for it. And she was just worried that he would lose his private keys.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-794" data-t="794">I tried to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-796" data-t="796">convince him that, you know, he can buy, you can go to see the or stamp seed and get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-802" data-t="802">metal plates to stamp a seed on there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-805" data-t="805">Tried to, you know, there's all these different solutions,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-808" data-t="808">told them about brain wallets, paper wallets.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-811">13:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-811" data-t="811">And it's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-814" data-t="814">my dad's my dad's father had dementia. He had Alzheimer's.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-818" data-t="818">And my dad's just worried that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-821" data-t="821">he will he will, he's prone to have getting Alzheimer's and he might lose his keys, he might forget where he put them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-827" data-t="827">So I try to tell him about,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-829" data-t="829">you know, there's solutions like anger watch now, or you can get like insurance, but,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-834">13:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-834" data-t="834">and I think that is probably a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-837" data-t="837">solution for a lot of boomers, because boomers do love insurance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-841" data-t="841">So you can tell them that they can pay, you know, pay for insurance, no like that. But hey,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-846" data-t="846">I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-847" data-t="847">we need</span> <span class="cue" id="t-849" data-t="849">a hardware wallet</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-850">14:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-850" data-t="850">that looks like it does look a dirty old raggedy leather wallet that dads like to carry in their pockets that are just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-857" data-t="857">bursting at the seams with receipts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-859" data-t="859">in cash. And I think if you if you you get a wallet, they can sit on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-864" data-t="864">that they can feel on their back pocket. I think the I think there's just like something about that physical like, you know, having that security that every time you sit down, you know, your wallet's there. You know, you've got your, you know, you've got your money. Maybe that's the solution, honestly.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-877">14:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-877" data-t="877">That seems like a reasonable</span> <span class="cue" id="t-880" data-t="880">solution.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-882" data-t="882">You know, the boomer generation has been plagued by back pain because they have these giant wallets in their back, they carry around a lot of cash, they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-891" data-t="891">keep all the business cards that are handed to them by people even if they don't ever look at them or use them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-899" data-t="899">They've got a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-901" data-t="901">fat stack of business cards and cash in their back wall and they want to feel it in their back. And so</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-907">15:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-907" data-t="907">as you're describing that, I kind of see</span> <span class="cue" id="t-911" data-t="911">a Madax</span> <span class="cue" id="t-913" data-t="913">cold card type</span> <span class="cue" id="t-916" data-t="916">collaboration.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-917" data-t="917">That would be interesting.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-919">15:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-919" data-t="919">Another one is, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-921" data-t="921">I know a lot of people this is my dad in particular as well.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-925" data-t="925">We get him gift cards for Father's Day gift cards for his birthday gift cards for Christmas, whether it's to Lowe's or Home Depot,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-934" data-t="934">you know, whatever, wherever your wherever dad's like to shop, right? And he never spends it, my dad gets all these gift cards. He just never goes to the stores, they nib, they just pile up in his,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-947" data-t="947">in his wallet, they give him back pain, it ends up the all the money that he could have been spending at Home Depot, but on his gift cards, he's having to spend out of his bank account for his chiropractor appointments.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-958" data-t="958">But maybe giving our dads,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-961">16:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-961" data-t="961">you know, Bitcoin gift cards is a good way</span> <span class="cue" id="t-965" data-t="965">to give them to fold it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-967" data-t="967">You know, they they just put it in their wallet and then they don't spend it.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-971">16:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-971" data-t="971">They got their Bitcoin saved. What do you mean by like a bit, a Bitcoin gift card, like, like a paper wallet or like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-978" data-t="978">an Azteca voucher or like,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-981">16:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-981" data-t="981">cool. Think about it. Like you could even though what were those,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-984" data-t="984">the, the, cassacious coins.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-987" data-t="987">There was it was like a Bitcoin and it had, you know, the keys on there, you could just you could embed that in an NFT or something.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-993" data-t="993">Or, you know, just have like a scratch off</span> <span class="cue" id="t-996" data-t="996">on a gift card.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-998" data-t="998">So it would be cold storage, it would be self custody would not be paper Bitcoin. And you just get that for your dad, if your dad's one of those guys, he just doesn't ever spend his gift cards. And, you know, over the years, I mean, you could have you could have a fat stack of Bitcoin gift cards that he just keeps in his wallet and forgets about when he passes away. And they're going through his stuff and get ready for the estate sale. You just pull those back out. And that's how you get your inheritance.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1022">17:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1022" data-t="1022">You get generational wealth in the back of that,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1025">17:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1025" data-t="1025">very old leather wallet. This is a really interesting question of, like, how how do we teach the boomer generation? Is there any hope of teaching the boomer generation how to be low time preference?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1037" data-t="1037">I like the idea of a scratch off</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1039" data-t="1039">type</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1040" data-t="1040">deal where, you know, like every like boomers like to send checks</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1045" data-t="1045">to their kids,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1046" data-t="1046">for like birthdays and holidays and stuff</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1049">17:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1049" data-t="1049">And which is funny because you can just send Bitcoin. It was way easier but like they they wanna mail checks. They want they they feel like it's their patriotic duty to use the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1059" data-t="1059">United States Postal Service.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1061" data-t="1061">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1063" data-t="1063">so you can essentially do the same thing. I think this has been like a very common point of tension between boomers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1070" data-t="1070">and their children, the younger generations,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1072" data-t="1072">is all the boomers really want is their children to use the United States</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1077">17:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1077" data-t="1077">Postal Service.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1079" data-t="1079">Like a text or a phone call or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1083" data-t="1083">an Amazon package delivered, like that doesn't suffice to them. They want you to go buy a Hallmark card,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1090" data-t="1090">write on it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1091" data-t="1091">with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1092" data-t="1092">a pencil or pen,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1094">18:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1094" data-t="1094">and then mail it to them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1096" data-t="1096">using the postal service. Now, you could meet that need for them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1100" data-t="1100">while you know, another thing we know about the boomers is they like to they like to gamble.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1105" data-t="1105">They like to gamble their children's future away. They like to just gamble in general. They like to gamble their social security checks away.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1112" data-t="1112">So you could</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1114" data-t="1114">put Bitcoin private keys on a scratch off</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1118">18:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1118" data-t="1118">and kind of gamify it and say, this is valued somewhere between X and X amount of sats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1124" data-t="1124">You can't price it in dollars because it's gonna appreciate. So you gotta price in sats</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1129" data-t="1129">and, they'll stare at it and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1131" data-t="1131">it'll create that itch for them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1133" data-t="1133">And it might convince them that you can't do that with paper Bitcoin.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1138">18:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1138" data-t="1138">Well, maybe I my dad hates the post office. My my family is very anti post office.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1146" data-t="1146">They my dad's always bitching about they need to just, like, cancel it and, like, let UPS let the private,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1153" data-t="1153">market take over. But you you you make a good point otherwise</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1156" data-t="1156">that I could definitely empathize it with. So I think this might be the way</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1161" data-t="1161">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1162" data-t="1162">you got to like help people, you got to help some of these boomers figure out, you got the Bitcoin that you save.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1167">19:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1167" data-t="1167">But you still need to spend Bitcoin. And we need more people spending Bitcoin, we Emily in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1173" data-t="1173">take away the gift card aspect of it with my dad.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1177" data-t="1177">What do boomers love to do more than anything else? They love to spend their money. They don't wanna give their kids any money. They don't wanna leave any any assets to their children, but they love to spend money. And the problem is with a lot of these boomers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1191" data-t="1191">is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1192" data-t="1192">they they have a lot of illiquid assets. They've got a lot of, stocks, things in their four zero one ks's real estate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1198" data-t="1198">that, you know, it's</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1201">20:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1201" data-t="1201">they could sell it, but it's it's not as easy. And if a if we started</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1207" data-t="1207">explaining to boomers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1209" data-t="1209">a, the value,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1211" data-t="1211">how how much Bitcoin goes up in value over time, but that it's so easy to spend.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1216" data-t="1216">We could get casinos to accept Bitcoin at the, you know, at the slot machine.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1221" data-t="1221">I mean, we were just in Vegas. Right? Like, it was the boomers were there spending, like, gambling away all their social security. We get them on Bitcoin. That's how we could fill up</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1231">20:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1231" data-t="1231">the blocks. We could actually we could we could</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1235" data-t="1235">fix the Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1236" data-t="1236">security</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1238" data-t="1238">budget problem</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1240" data-t="1240">if we just got,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1241" data-t="1241">boomers</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1243">20:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1243" data-t="1243">using Bitcoin because they love to spend money. It's a good point.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1247">20:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1247" data-t="1247">Yeah. There's a lot of creative solutions. I mean, like one of the things when you're interacting with the boomers that you have to realize is that largely, like there's exceptions to the rule,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1256" data-t="1256">but largely speaking, the boomers are completely retarded and you just have to treat them as such. It doesn't mean you have to be mean about it. You don't have to call them retarded,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1266" data-t="1266">like Shinobi does.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1268" data-t="1268">But you just have to know that they think a little bit slower. They don't know how to use technology in the same way.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1276" data-t="1276">They were the generation that oversaw the banning</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1279" data-t="1279">of smoking indoors.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1281">21:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1281" data-t="1281">And and you just have to understand the context with them. They're they're a little bit retarded.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1287" data-t="1287">I I do think it's interesting that your your dad doesn't like the the post office because I I feel like that's the love of the post office like, man, if you want you want to get boomers angry</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1297" data-t="1297">in protesting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1300" data-t="1300">in mass,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1301" data-t="1301">go threaten to take funding away from the postal service. It's like, yeah, my it's the opposite is my, my,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1308">21:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1308" data-t="1308">my wife's dad.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1310" data-t="1310">He, he loves the post. My wife's dad thinks that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1315" data-t="1315">you post office workers and retired post office workers that they should be, they should get veterans benefits. They should be able to go to the VA hospitals. They should get 10% off, big Montana at RBS.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1326" data-t="1326">They should be able to get free olive garden on and veterans day. And there's a lot of people out there. They think that mailman should get veterans benefits.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1334" data-t="1334">But the other thing you talked about was, you know, it's it's kind of a stereotype or a trope that boomers are bad with technology,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1341" data-t="1341">people have to go help their boomer grandparents and parents like open a PDF.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1347">22:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1347" data-t="1347">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1348" data-t="1348">it's a slap. That's sometimes that's a slight trade. I think sometimes boomers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1353" data-t="1353">pretend to be bad at technology.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1355" data-t="1355">So they can get attention from their children and grandchildren. And hey, you got to come over and fix my my Oh, it's working when I get there. Oh, your internet wasn't working for a week. But the second I get there, it's working again. I know what you're doing. Because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1367" data-t="1367">a,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1368" data-t="1368">the boomers figure out Facebook</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1370">22:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1370" data-t="1370">right away. I mean, the boomers have taken over Facebook, they the boomers took over Facebook,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1376" data-t="1376">and drove everybody else out like they did when they took over the, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1381" data-t="1381">the the the different neighborhoods and drove the minorities out. That that that's what they do. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1388" data-t="1388">you're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1389" data-t="1389">not even boomers, the people older, the generation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1391" data-t="1391">above boomers, what is their favorite thing? They love watching</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1395">23:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1395" data-t="1395">TV.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1396" data-t="1396">Those are like home shopping network channels. And then they call in and they give doodads and trinkets on the TV that they buy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1403" data-t="1403">Imagine if you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1405" data-t="1405">you know, they they had to figure out they have to figure out cell phones to buy that stuff. So imagine if you could put on the home shopping network,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1411" data-t="1411">a bit x or some other big Bitcoin t shirts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1416" data-t="1416">they might want to buy Bitcoin toys, Bitcoin T shirt, like like the plushie toys, any kind of Bitcoin memorabilia</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1422">23:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1422" data-t="1422">for their grandchildren, their children for themselves.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1425" data-t="1425">And they use throw up a QR code, a lightning QR code. Umers can they love taking pictures.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1431" data-t="1431">They love to they love taking selfies, looking down at the camera, work with a grumpy face, and it's, like, really blurry. They love doing that. So if you just all you have to do is teach them to press that button that switches the camera to the front facing, and then hold it up to the TV when they wanna when they wanna pay for, some Bitcoin stuff on the home shopping network. Boom.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1451">24:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1451" data-t="1451">Full blocks. I like that idea. I like that idea a lot. I I do think that boomers are retarded</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1458" data-t="1458">when it comes to technology and just in general. And I don't think it's a trope. I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1463" data-t="1463">So there's this common thing or trend that I'm seeing where a lot of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1468" data-t="1468">Gen X and Millennials are talking shit about the Zoomers saying saying that they're retarded because they believe everything AI says.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1475" data-t="1475">This is a trend I've been seeing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1477" data-t="1477">And I think the boomers are the same way in the same they they essentially use their their kids and their grandchildren</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1484">24:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1484" data-t="1484">like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1485" data-t="1485">the Zoomers are using AI</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1487" data-t="1487">when it comes to technology.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1489" data-t="1489">They they had children,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1491" data-t="1491">so they never had to learn how to use the technology themselves.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1495" data-t="1495">And it it crippled them. It crippled their</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1498">24:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1498" data-t="1498">thinking skills,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1500" data-t="1500">when it comes to using these types of products.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1504" data-t="1504">But it it might be a good thing that boomers don't know how to open PDFs because I know that could be, a security vulnerability.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1510" data-t="1510">And a lot of you wanna be careful opening PDFs sometimes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1514" data-t="1514">because you can embed malware in them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1517" data-t="1517">But,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1518">25:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1518" data-t="1518">yeah. Happy Father's Day, everybody.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1522">25:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1522" data-t="1522">Now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1524" data-t="1524">yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1525" data-t="1525">We're moving on. I I can't believe we got twenty five minutes in before</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1530" data-t="1530">we mentioned basically the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1532" data-t="1532">thing that has taken over</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1535" data-t="1535">the world, it's taken over the timelines, taking over the news.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1538">25:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1538" data-t="1538">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1540" data-t="1540">Israel,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1541" data-t="1541">declared war</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1542" data-t="1542">on Iran,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1546" data-t="1546">and they did bombing the Jews have been bombing the shit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1549" data-t="1549">out of the Iranians,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1551">25:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1551" data-t="1551">since Thursday.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1553" data-t="1553">And the Iranians have been, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1556" data-t="1556">they've been doing some bombing themselves. They haven't been quite as</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1559" data-t="1559">ruthless with it. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1561" data-t="1561">any of all of our listeners,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1564" data-t="1564">those two things our listeners haven't, like, they want to do.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1568">26:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1568" data-t="1568">They want to notice,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1569" data-t="1569">and they want to monitor the situation. And right now, noticers and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1574" data-t="1574">situation monitors are coming together.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1576" data-t="1576">Because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1577" data-t="1577">as usual, these things kind of coalesce around</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1581" data-t="1581">Jewish activity.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1582">26:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1582" data-t="1582">And so everybody's kind of noticing and monitoring the situation. How do you think this is gonna play out? What do you do you think that this is going to be a protracted conflict? Do you think that this is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1594" data-t="1594">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1595" data-t="1595">kind of a weird timing with the bombing to begin, there was a lot of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1601" data-t="1601">internal conflict in The United States, a lot of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1603" data-t="1603">protests.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1605" data-t="1605">Elon Musk and Donald Trump had broken up. He was accusing Donald Trump of,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1610">26:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1610" data-t="1610">you know, being in the Epstein files. And now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1614" data-t="1614">and now there's war in The Middle East. It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1616" data-t="1616">it's getting pretty scary out there. Yeah. I've been monitoring.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1619">26:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1619" data-t="1619">There's a lot of situations to monitor right now. So the Jews are bombing Iran.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1625" data-t="1625">You got</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1627" data-t="1627">the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1628" data-t="1628">you got a bunch of people protesting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1631" data-t="1631">immigration stuff.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1633" data-t="1633">You've got</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1635">27:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1635" data-t="1635">assassination</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1636" data-t="1636">markets</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1637" data-t="1637">in Minnesota.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1638" data-t="1638">It's been a wild week, folks. It's been a lot of violence, a lot</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1642" data-t="1642">of upheaval.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1643" data-t="1643">I think it'll</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1646">27:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1646" data-t="1646">I don't see the trend</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1649" data-t="1649">changing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1650" data-t="1650">I think the trend will</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1653" data-t="1653">When Lynn Alden says nothing stops his train, she's not just talking about monetary chaos but the social chaos that follows it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1661" data-t="1661">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1662" data-t="1662">you know, when you got the Jews distracted</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1664">27:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1664" data-t="1664">with bombing Iran instead of making good movies, of course people are gonna be pissed off.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1670" data-t="1670">Of course they're gonna be pissed off and they're gonna be protesting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1673" data-t="1673">because they don't have anything better to do. Like, all all the shit on Netflix sucks, so we're gonna go in the streets and we're gonna get mad about something.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1681" data-t="1681">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1682" data-t="1682">Yeah. As far as the conflict, my predictions for it, I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1686" data-t="1686">I think initially, I was feeling like it was gonna be pretty prolonged.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1690">28:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1690" data-t="1690">But I don't know. The the way the Modern Warfare is working is is very different</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1695" data-t="1695">than it ever</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1696" data-t="1696">has before. You've got I just don't think people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1701" data-t="1701">want</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1702" data-t="1702">the same scale</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1704" data-t="1704">of</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1705">28:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1705" data-t="1705">just death and just like throwing people physically into the meat grinder.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1710" data-t="1710">They have a lower tolerance for it though. That hasn't necessarily</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1714" data-t="1714">been true in Ukraine.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1716" data-t="1716">A lot of people dying in the meat grinder over there but the ways that they're dying are different. But what we're seeing in this war,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1723" data-t="1723">which I think is interesting is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1726" data-t="1726">they're using very expensive things. Like these missiles are very expensive. They're a lot more expensive than,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1733">28:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1733" data-t="1733">you know, training an 18 year old kid and and handing them an assault rifle and saying, you know, hey, go run that way and die.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1742" data-t="1742">At the same time,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1744" data-t="1744">Fiat is dying and Bitcoin has already won. And with Bitcoin already winning,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1750" data-t="1750">I think it's harder for these guys to fund the wars. So I think it's gonna be a lot</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1755" data-t="1755">less.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1755">29:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" data-t="1755">Yeah. But here's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1757" data-t="1757">the thing. We had a big, we've had a big revolution</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1761" data-t="1761">in the past few months.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1764" data-t="1764">And there's nothing right now more popular</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1767" data-t="1767">than paper Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1769" data-t="1769">Does paper Bitcoin</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1771">29:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1771" data-t="1771">prevent war, or does paper Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1775" data-t="1775">facilitate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1776" data-t="1776">it? Because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1777" data-t="1777">if paper Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1778" data-t="1778">facilitates war,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1780" data-t="1780">we're in for</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1782">29:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1782" data-t="1782">we're in for a big</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1784" data-t="1784">big surprise. It's gonna be a big reckoning. It's gonna be a bad time the next few years because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1790" data-t="1790">it's gonna be a lot of funding for war.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1792">29:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1792" data-t="1792">Well, there there's even the possibility that that paper Bitcoin is Star Wars</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1798" data-t="1798">because-</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1799" data-t="1799">Interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1800" data-t="1800">If these guys</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1802" data-t="1802">get super I'm excited to read Fundamentals book. Fundamentals has a lot of thoughts on this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1807" data-t="1807">on how</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1808">30:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1808" data-t="1808">to properly paper Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1811" data-t="1811">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1812" data-t="1812">I don't think a lot of guys know how to properly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1815" data-t="1815">paper Bitcoin. And a lot of these guys that are going to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1820" data-t="1820">You look at JP Morgan, you look at BlackRock, those guys are paper Bitcoin. And you think they listened to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast so we can actually understand how this shit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1829" data-t="1829">works? Probably not.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1832">30:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1832" data-t="1832">They probably haven't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1834" data-t="1834">listened to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1836" data-t="1836">more than two hours of Lynn Alden. They have no idea how the world works.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1842" data-t="1842">So they come up with all these</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1845" data-t="1845">sophisticated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1846" data-t="1846">and crazy schemes</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1847">30:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1847" data-t="1847">thinking that they're walking into the same exact thing that the fiat world is where you can just paper over everything</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1853" data-t="1853">and then they're dealing with a hard asset,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1856" data-t="1856">get rug</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1857" data-t="1857">pulled, cause an avalanche, cause</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1859" data-t="1859">tremendous</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1860" data-t="1860">political economic chaos, it could start wars. This shit could start wars. It's like they're piling up,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1869">31:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1869" data-t="1869">kindling to get lit on fire. But yeah, I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1872" data-t="1872">depending on the rehypothecation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1874" data-t="1874">strategies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1875" data-t="1875">I totally think it could be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1877" data-t="1877">used to facilitate war,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1879" data-t="1879">absolutely,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1881">31:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1881" data-t="1881">as well. I think in the short term, they haven't figured it out quick enough which is why I'm bullish on the conflict ending relatively soon.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1890" data-t="1890">Totally could be wrong on that but you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1893" data-t="1893">next time the Jews are bombing Iran or whatever,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1896" data-t="1896">it could be a longer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1898" data-t="1898">conflict</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1899" data-t="1899">as a result of, them having a better pick paper Bitcoin strategy to be able to facilitate</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1904">31:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1904" data-t="1904">it all. It'll be interesting.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1908">31:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1908" data-t="1908">I, there is a lot</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1910" data-t="1910">of tragedy, a lot of bloodshed that comes from war. Obviously that's all war is, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1915" data-t="1915">when</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1917" data-t="1917">when democracies are at war,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1920" data-t="1920">at least it is you you have the consent of the soldiers. The soldiers if if it's a democracy, everybody has voted, like, alright. We're we're willing to go to this war. We have volunteer armies.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1931" data-t="1931">But you you start to have these mix and matches where it's like democracies versus non democracies.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1936">32:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1936" data-t="1936">And it's a lot of people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1939" data-t="1939">start to get into these, like, debates about who's right or wrong, which side's right or wrong, which side's good or bad, this side's doing this, well, this side's doing this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1947" data-t="1947">But in war, by the time you get to the point of war, there is no more arguments about who is right or wrong, or who's morally justified in their actions anymore. That is gone. You can't have that argument anymore. It's it's pure violence.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1963" data-t="1963">So what I'm worried about,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1965" data-t="1965">I'm not worried about paper Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1967" data-t="1967">funding literal</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1969">32:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1969" data-t="1969">kinetic warfare so much as the warfare and the conflict that is emerging</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1975" data-t="1975">because of paper Bitcoin and people's arguments and disagreements about what the Bitcoin is and what its value is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1983" data-t="1983">And it's already see on the timeline,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1986" data-t="1986">you look at the streets of Los Angeles,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1988" data-t="1988">and you've got</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1990" data-t="1990">immigrants,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1991">33:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1991" data-t="1991">citizens,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1992" data-t="1992">people fighting the cops.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1995" data-t="1995">And you look on the timeline, and it's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1997" data-t="1997">it's the same, it's the same sort of sentiments building up. I mean, acid, Noah Gold wants to beat up Shinobi for calling in a retard</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2006" data-t="2006">predators probably going to snap</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2008" data-t="2008">and go postal</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2009">33:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2009" data-t="2009">at some point with all these new paper Bitcoin companies announcing left and right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2015" data-t="2015">And it that that makes me a little bit worried. It's just another thing to disagree about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2020" data-t="2020">passionately and then get to the point</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2022" data-t="2022">of real physical</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2024" data-t="2024">conflict.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2026" data-t="2026">And what what makes me real a lot of people think</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2031">33:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2031" data-t="2031">in this left right</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2034" data-t="2034">paradigm, and they think that the their right wing, and that the right wing guys were tough and they're based and they've got the weapons and guns, so they'll win.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2043" data-t="2043">But I never get you never see</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2046" data-t="2046">the right wing based guys beat up the cops and kick, you know, attack the cops like the liberals. Liberals love beaten up cops.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2054" data-t="2054">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2056" data-t="2056">I don't know.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2057">34:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2057" data-t="2057">I I'm worried that if the shit goes down,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2060" data-t="2060">I just don't think that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2062" data-t="2062">I don't think that the the people on the so called right, I think we might be, we might be cooked in some sort of like civil war. If there's a civil war here, the right might be cooked because they love it. You just put on a cop uniform.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2074" data-t="2074">And a conservative will like immediately defer late, get down on his knees and say, officer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2079" data-t="2079">I respect thin blue line. And then it's like, he just takes a the person just takes off their badge and like, tricky bitch, and they just shoot you. And it's like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2088" data-t="2088">no matter how many times it happens,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2091">34:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2091" data-t="2091">conservatives will literally just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2093" data-t="2093">bend over if a cop if somebody in a cop's uniform tells them to you. So, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2099" data-t="2099">if if these libs, they fucking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2101" data-t="2101">start riding, they take over the LA police department, they steal all the uniforms, they could just go run run-in rough shot through orange tanny because the conservatives would just</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2110">35:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2110" data-t="2110">you've gotta respect the police. Yeah. I think a lot of conservatives</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2113" data-t="2113">you know, Fort, I don't know if it's fortunate. I'm not going to make a judgment call on what it is but I think a lot of the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2121" data-t="2121">conservatives out there,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2123" data-t="2123">a lot of them are veterans</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2124" data-t="2124">and they have military experience and they understand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2128" data-t="2128">that the enemy oftentimes</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2130">35:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2130" data-t="2130">tries to infiltrate and you need</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2133" data-t="2133">to find creative ways like using code words</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2137" data-t="2137">in order to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2139" data-t="2139">determine whether you're on the same team or not even if they're wearing the same uniform. The uniform is not always indicative of you being on the same side. So, you know, there there are certain things,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2150" data-t="2150">certain types of words that the conservatives</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2153" data-t="2153">could use that you know somebody on the left would never</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2158">35:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2158" data-t="2158">never</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2160" data-t="2160">dare to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2161" data-t="2161">say certain politically incorrect words.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2164" data-t="2164">Maybe you could use</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2169" data-t="2169">a passphrase like you ask them how many genders there are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2173" data-t="2173">and,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2175">36:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2175" data-t="2175">if the answer is two, you know they're actually a cop and if it's not,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2179" data-t="2179">they're probably an infiltrator.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2183" data-t="2183">But yeah, on the topic of war</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2185" data-t="2185">and civil war,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2187" data-t="2187">my stance on war is always the same.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2190" data-t="2190">It's what I've learned from the years of covering these conflicts as journalists is that the civilians are always the victims at the end of the day, whether it's a democracy</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2199">36:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2199" data-t="2199">or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2200" data-t="2200">a dictatorship.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2201" data-t="2201">There's oftentimes not good guys because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2204" data-t="2204">the people that are waging the wars,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2207" data-t="2207">like in this circumstance,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2210" data-t="2210">I would say Donald Trump's a major player in it. I would say</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2215">36:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2215" data-t="2215">Benjamin Netanyahu's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2216" data-t="2216">a major player and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2220" data-t="2220">the Iranian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2222" data-t="2222">leadership, the Ayatollah,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2224" data-t="2224">they're all noncompliant individuals that expect their citizens</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2228" data-t="2228">to comply. And this is just</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2231">37:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2231" data-t="2231">the You know who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2232" data-t="2232">ends up being</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2234" data-t="2234">the biggest the people who end up facing the brunt of the conflict,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2238" data-t="2238">it's plebs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2241" data-t="2241">Plebs. If you want if you if you're if you live in a in a place that's got a high risk for conflict and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2247" data-t="2247">war, and you want to ensure</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2250">37:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2250" data-t="2250">that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2251" data-t="2251">you end up getting hit with a hypersonic missile into the top of your house</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2255" data-t="2255">with the life of a pled,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2257" data-t="2257">pioneers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2258" data-t="2258">are on,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2260" data-t="2260">There's not much war on the frontier because there's nothing to fight over on the frontier.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2265">37:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2265" data-t="2265">It's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2267" data-t="2267">the user experience isn't good enough for war. But if you're a plan and you're static,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2271" data-t="2271">and you are you're touched, you trust the TV,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2275" data-t="2275">you will probably be around</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2278" data-t="2278">you'll probably end up getting sucked in to the war machine. So you don't wanna be a player on the front lines. There's no pioneers on the front lines of war. There's no pioneers in the trenches of war.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2290" data-t="2290">Well, there's a lot of floods.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2294">38:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2294" data-t="2294">Yeah. I agree with that. Yeah. I think if you're a pioneer, you should be looking for unique ways to avoid the war all entirely. I mean, big part of being a pioneer is just trying to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2306" data-t="2306">insulate yourself from what you see is coming because you're what you can wear and you're paying attention,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2312" data-t="2312">unlike a lot of the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2314" data-t="2314">plebs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2316" data-t="2316">But yeah, it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2317" data-t="2317">the civilians never win in a war.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2320">38:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2320" data-t="2320">They never win in a war. It's why</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2322" data-t="2322">I take a stance against war. Like most journalists, they get excited about war because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2328" data-t="2328">it means they get to cover a topic that people are interested in and people will tune in to their TV news for the first time in forever and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2336" data-t="2336">wanna buy their newspapers to hear what's going on.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2339" data-t="2339">So journalists get boners</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2341" data-t="2341">whenever a war pops off.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2343">39:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2343" data-t="2343">It's like the bull market for them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2346" data-t="2346">Jews start bombing Iran, it's a bull market in the news cycle.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2350" data-t="2350">They're excited.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2351" data-t="2351">I don't feel that way. I just like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2354" data-t="2354">this is why I left</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2356" data-t="2356">the mainstream media environment because I just found that so sick. I found that so sick trying to capitalize</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2362">39:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2362" data-t="2362">on people's pain and suffering</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2365" data-t="2365">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2367" data-t="2367">essentially supporting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2369" data-t="2369">the war machine. It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2372" data-t="2372">an unfortunate reality.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2377" data-t="2377">I've been talking about Scardust this week, what they're experiencing and it's just shitty. You know, it's shitty to see it firsthand</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2383">39:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2383" data-t="2383">or I guess secondhand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2385" data-t="2385">but you know, to hear the experience of what it's like to live somewhere where you're getting bombed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2393" data-t="2393">It's a real possibility</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2395" data-t="2395">here in The United States, a real possibility in the Bitcoin ecosystem.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2399" data-t="2399">You're talking about these two factions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2402" data-t="2402">forming between the paper Bitcoiners and the Bitcoiners. The American Civil War</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2407">40:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2407" data-t="2407">was one of the darkest times in American history</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2411" data-t="2411">where you had</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2412" data-t="2412">brothers fighting brothers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2415" data-t="2415">you had cousins fighting cousins, you had</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2417" data-t="2417">neighbors fighting neighbors</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2420" data-t="2420">in a bloody war that really</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2423">40:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2423" data-t="2423">didn't lead to a whole lot</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2427" data-t="2427">of productive outcomes other than the US government getting bigger.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2431" data-t="2431">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2432" data-t="2432">you can argue about slavery, you know, whatever. That's like the MPC</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2436" data-t="2436">argument like government education</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2440" data-t="2440">type topic. Yes, it's good that slavery ended.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2443">40:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2443" data-t="2443">It didn't necessarily,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2444" data-t="2444">you know. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2446" data-t="2446">I think the black people in America</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2448" data-t="2448">can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2449" data-t="2449">testify that not everything is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2452" data-t="2452">functioning</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2454">40:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2454" data-t="2454">as a result of Abraham Lincoln. But, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2458" data-t="2458">that's something that we wanna avoid</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2460" data-t="2460">at all costs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2462" data-t="2462">We wanna avoid</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2464" data-t="2464">those types of scenarios where people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2468" data-t="2468">are fighting each other,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2469">41:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2469" data-t="2469">to that that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2471" data-t="2471">degree.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2472" data-t="2472">And and that's one thing I fear for The United States. As Bitcoin wins,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2476" data-t="2476">we're gonna have these different factions. You're gonna have the the Bitcoiners and you're gonna have the paper Bitcoiners.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2482" data-t="2482">They're gonna have different policies on on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2485" data-t="2485">or different opinions on relay policy,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2488">41:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2488" data-t="2488">you know, all these other things</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2490" data-t="2490">on how do they wanna utilize Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2493" data-t="2493">You're gonna have the plaids. You're gonna have the pioneers. How do how do we avoid</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2497" data-t="2497">violent conflict</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2499" data-t="2499">for breaking up? Well,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2502">41:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2502" data-t="2502">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2504" data-t="2504">I, yeah, I hate to go back to the fourth turning because people are are sick of hearing about it, but the last two fourth turnings were</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2512" data-t="2512">total were were total hot war. The last one was World War two, and the one before that was a civil war.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2520" data-t="2520">And we talked about, you know, you could you could debate all day about what the real</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2525" data-t="2525">reason for the Civil War was. There was a lot of reasons.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2529" data-t="2529">Slavery is the one that people</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2531">42:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2531" data-t="2531">have chosen to remember.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2534" data-t="2534">And I think the next civil war is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2538" data-t="2538">going to be about is what we're facing the risk we are facing now. And it's the same thing. There's a lot of reasons for it. But one of the big ones is slavery, and Democrats don't want to lose their has their Latino slaves. And when you this immigration problem is not is not just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2557" data-t="2557">people coming to The United States to look for a better life. That's certainly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2560" data-t="2560">some people doing that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2562" data-t="2562">But there are</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2563">42:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2563" data-t="2563">court cartels</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2565" data-t="2565">are laundering money in The United States by rounding up the poorest people in the communities of Central America,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2572" data-t="2572">selling them to American corporations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2575" data-t="2575">who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2576" data-t="2576">put them to work in in factories</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2578" data-t="2578">in really in in all the, like, most dangerous shitty jobs, like children</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2583">43:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2583" data-t="2583">are pretty being put to work. They put, you know, 30 or 40,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2588" data-t="2588">you know, Mexican plaids in a house.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2591" data-t="2591">And they out of work seventy hours a week at the, you know, meat processing plant or in the fields of Alabama.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2598" data-t="2598">They're treats human traffic, people think of human trafficking is like sex slaves. And that's certainly part of it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2603" data-t="2603">But mostly human trafficking going on The United States is is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2607" data-t="2607">American corporations.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2611">43:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2611" data-t="2611">It basically getting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2613" data-t="2613">virtually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2614" data-t="2614">free labor,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2617" data-t="2617">endlessly, and this, they don't, they don't have to pay for upgrades to machines, they don't have to hire people. It's just free labor, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2623" data-t="2623">everybody who benefits from that labor, that's why they're like looking the other way. So I think the way we avoid conflict is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2630" data-t="2630">to you have to buy Bitcoin, so you can afford</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2633">43:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2633" data-t="2633">not to have slaves.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2636" data-t="2636">In,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2637" data-t="2637">you can afford to run a business, you can have a Bitcoin Treasury company, you can have Bitcoin on your balance sheet. So you don't have to have slaves to, make sure that your your quarterly earnings report looks</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2649" data-t="2649">good. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2651" data-t="2651">you can cook up the numbers and cook the books and do your Enron accounting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2656" data-t="2656">to make it look like you made money because of all the slaves that you had working for you in your shop that you bought from the Mexican border.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2663">44:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2663" data-t="2663">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2664" data-t="2664">you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2665" data-t="2665">need to have Bitcoin so that you can you can afford to buy the products</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2670" data-t="2670">of businesses and corporations that no longer have slaves.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2674" data-t="2674">You can need to buy Bitcoin so you can afford to, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2678" data-t="2678">know, have children so they can clean your house and mow your lawn so you don't have to hire Mexicans to do that.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2684">44:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2684" data-t="2684">It's it's really coming down to you because that's this this civil war is gonna be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2691" data-t="2691">a million reasons behind the civil war that's coming, but they're gonna blame they're gonna blame it on immigrants.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2697" data-t="2697">And it's most of those most of those immigrants are the victims not they didn't even come they didn't want to come destroy The United States. They were forced to.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2706" data-t="2706">I mean, that's that's a that's a broad generalization.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2709" data-t="2709">But that's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2711" data-t="2711">there's all the more you look into, the more you notice, the more you monitor the situation,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2715">45:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2715" data-t="2715">the more you start to realize that the the US government</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2719" data-t="2719">is just the American cartel.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2721" data-t="2721">And it's working with the most powerful, you know, state actors</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2726" data-t="2726">in Mexico, which is the Mexican cartels, the drug cartels. Yeah.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2730">45:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2730" data-t="2730">Very well said.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2731" data-t="2731">And some people might be questioning what you're saying right now because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2735" data-t="2735">the depiction- Going to forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts per week? Yeah. No, they got to dig a little bit deeper. I mean, this is part of the reason why credential journalism is important because you've got people digging deep on these things all the time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2750" data-t="2750">But, yeah, the TV, you know, and the way it's presenting, you know, they're they're looking at all these,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2755" data-t="2755">people that are like living in Los Angeles. The</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2758" data-t="2758">the the slaves working on the liberal plantations</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2761">46:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2761" data-t="2761">cannot afford to live in Los Angeles</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2764" data-t="2764">at all.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2765" data-t="2765">And they're not gonna be depicted on the TV. They're not they're not the nice old man, you know, just working, you know, hanging around Home Depot</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2773" data-t="2773">trying to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2774" data-t="2774">you know, get a job,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2776" data-t="2776">working for somebody for cash. It's</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2780">46:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2780" data-t="2780">these people are not seen</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2782" data-t="2782">they exist, they don't have a voice.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2785" data-t="2785">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2786" data-t="2786">it's interesting, you know, I wonder what the Libs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2791" data-t="2791">reasoning on this is because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2793" data-t="2793">I I think a lot of the conservatives that want to deport a lot of these people, like, their their opinion on things is that they can just buy robots to to automate the process.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2803">46:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2803" data-t="2803">Why</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2804" data-t="2804">why do the Libs do they not wanna pay the initial CapEx for the investment in the robots? They're they're trying to huddle Bitcoin. It's kinda like a sell your chairs type moment. The the slaves are cheaper</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2816" data-t="2816">upfront or,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2818" data-t="2818">you know, what's their logic here</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2821" data-t="2821">of why they prefer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2824" data-t="2824">slaves versus automating</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2826">47:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2826" data-t="2826">all the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2827" data-t="2827">picking and the plantations?</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2829">47:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2829" data-t="2829">Because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2831" data-t="2831">they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2832" data-t="2832">ultimately would like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2834" data-t="2834">it for them to vote.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2836" data-t="2836">And if they can get their slaves to vote for them,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2839" data-t="2839">they can maintain power. This is what the South did. The South wanted the slaves</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2844">47:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2844" data-t="2844">to be,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2846" data-t="2846">fully sit at like once the once Civil War was over, they would want or recognize these people, we want them to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2852" data-t="2852">full citizens. So we can have more congressmen, more senators.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2856" data-t="2856">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2858" data-t="2858">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2859" data-t="2859">Republicans were like, wait, wait, wait,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2862">47:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2862" data-t="2862">three fifths compromise.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2864" data-t="2864">You're kind of like the paper voter, you don't exactly count as a full as a full one.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2870" data-t="2870">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2872" data-t="2872">the simple matter is robots can vote.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2877" data-t="2877">The little bots, little Tesla bots putting together your car,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2880" data-t="2880">the,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2881">48:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2881" data-t="2881">the self driving waymos.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2883" data-t="2883">These robots, they can't vote. They don't get you more congressmen. They don't get you more sun. They don't get you more democracy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2890" data-t="2890">Robots give you less democracy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2892" data-t="2892">Talent here gives you less democracy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2896" data-t="2896">Slaves give you more democracy.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2898">48:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2898" data-t="2898">And and liberals love democracy. Only if it goes their way. That's a very interesting take. I I think that's probably a reasonable take. That's makes a lot</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2907" data-t="2907">of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2908" data-t="2908">sense. Maybe one of the ways to counter that then is to give,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2913" data-t="2913">you know, the the the the And I think that to beat into the nuance a little bit more, the illegals aren't going to voting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2919" data-t="2919">typically. I'm sure in some circumstances they are but they're being counted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2923" data-t="2923">on the census which gives these liberal areas that bring a lot of these illegal slaves in,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2931">48:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2931" data-t="2931">more congressional</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2932" data-t="2932">seats so they get more voting power in Congress.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2938" data-t="2938">Yeah, maybe the best way to counter that is to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2940" data-t="2940">count</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2941" data-t="2941">robots on the census</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2944" data-t="2944">to</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2946">49:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2946" data-t="2946">persuade the liberals that slavery is wrong. You have to get creative.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2950" data-t="2950">When you're a democracy, you have to get creative</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2954" data-t="2954">when you're engaging in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2956" data-t="2956">the political back and forth with whatever your rival is. But yeah,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2961" data-t="2961">kind of recap the week before we go into the fountain boost. Some stories that we didn't talk about that we probably could have is, the assassination markets in Minnesota,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2971" data-t="2971">just</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2972">49:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2972" data-t="2972">another example of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2974" data-t="2974">things kind of heating up of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2977" data-t="2977">this disruption technology</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2980" data-t="2980">changing the way things work. You've got,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2983" data-t="2983">Stephen Lobka rocking a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2986" data-t="2986">broccoli haircut now. Now that he's working at Nakamoto,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2990">49:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2990" data-t="2990">that was, I guess one of his</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2992" data-t="2992">terms of employment with them. Maggie Morris wasn't very happy about that.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2998">49:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2998" data-t="2998">I had a few other in my head.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3001" data-t="3001">Justin Bachelor is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3003" data-t="3003">he's got a a knot's flotilla.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3007" data-t="3007">They're floating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3008" data-t="3008">right now to the Mediterranean</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3011" data-t="3011">to,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3012">50:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3012" data-t="3012">they've got a bunch of umbrellas,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3014" data-t="3014">And they are, they're gonna set those</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3016" data-t="3016">up in Gaza, they're gonna go to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3020" data-t="3020">whatever part of Gaza is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3022" data-t="3022">still got electricity,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3024" data-t="3024">and</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3025">50:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3025" data-t="3025">set that up. So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3027" data-t="3027">you know, if you know anything about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3029" data-t="3029">the situation in Gaza, you know that they don't have a lot of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3033" data-t="3033">compute power, they don't have a lot of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3036" data-t="3036">hard drive space</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3038" data-t="3038">to go around right now. So they need,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3041">50:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3041" data-t="3041">they need to they need to have done they need to be their nodes need to be able to filter the spam,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3047" data-t="3047">especially if the boomers are going to be coming on, we're gonna teach them how to spend their Bitcoin, they're gonna be filling up blocks, and then you're gonna be competing with spam and an actual monetary transaction. So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3057" data-t="3057">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3058" data-t="3058">I'm not a big, you know, I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3061" data-t="3061">changed sides. I'm not a NOS guy anymore. I'm not a Nazi, because they lost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3065" data-t="3065">But</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3067">51:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3067" data-t="3067">I think then, sir, I think I think NOS is perfect for Palestinians,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3072" data-t="3072">and NOTS is perfect for,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3074" data-t="3074">people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3075" data-t="3075">you know, in Iran right now who are who are getting bombed and losing all their infrastructure electricity. But,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3083">51:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3083" data-t="3083">so I'm glad it exists for them. I've got a I was just scrolling my timeline</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3086" data-t="3086">of things that I tweeted that I wanted to talk about.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3090" data-t="3090">That's a good summary too.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3093" data-t="3093">Happy Father's Day to Adam Curry,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3095" data-t="3095">the pod father, the father of podcasting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3099" data-t="3099">the father of podcasting two point zero,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3102">51:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3102" data-t="3102">the father of Bitcoin podcast. We we couldn't do 40 HPW without Adam Curry, so very happy Father's Day to you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3110" data-t="3110">That was one of the the notable ones. I'm I'm already blanking on everything that I already read.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3115" data-t="3115">Guess it wasn't that important.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3117" data-t="3117">Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Last last one that I think is important,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3122" data-t="3122">Coinbase</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3123" data-t="3123">and Palantir sponsored Trump's birthday party. That's right. The, the the statist</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3130">52:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3130" data-t="3130">army parade</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3131" data-t="3131">was sponsored by Coinbase,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3133" data-t="3133">which reminds me when you mentioned Palantir,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3136" data-t="3136">big news out of the North Pole this weekend.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3139" data-t="3139">There was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3140" data-t="3140">Santa Claus</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3142">52:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3142" data-t="3142">had narrowed it down to Palantir</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3145" data-t="3145">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3146" data-t="3146">platter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3147" data-t="3147">for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3149" data-t="3149">outsourcing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3150" data-t="3150">where he was going to get his naughty list his information on who was not he was nice.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3156">52:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3156" data-t="3156">This past year, so Christmas twenty twenty five.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3160" data-t="3160">Present Santa Claus will be determining whether you'd be coal, or you get presents</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3165" data-t="3165">based on whether or not you're on predators, naughty or nice list. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3170" data-t="3170">if you're gonna pay for Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3173" data-t="3173">maybe you don't think it's wrong,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3175" data-t="3175">I would encourage you</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3177">52:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3177" data-t="3177">to maintain your OPSEC. Because if predator finds out that you are buying paper Bitcoin, or that you are shilling paper Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3187" data-t="3187">your stocking may be full of coal</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3189">53:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3189" data-t="3189">this Christmas. Yeah. You know, watching Coinbase sponsor,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3194" data-t="3194">Trump's birthday party</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3197" data-t="3197">was interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3199" data-t="3199">And if anybody doesn't know what Trump did for his birthday party, he he threw a military parade.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3205" data-t="3205">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3207" data-t="3207">I think that's,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3209">53:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3209" data-t="3209">kind of indicative of maybe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3213" data-t="3213">paper Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3214" data-t="3214">I think a lot of people would argue that this means that shit coining</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3219" data-t="3219">is funding war. But I think that very quickly moves into once the shitcoiners realize that they can paper Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3226" data-t="3226">they're gonna do that and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3229" data-t="3229">that kind of leads This shows</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3231">53:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3231" data-t="3231">that there is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3232" data-t="3232">depth to this argument</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3234" data-t="3234">that paper Bitcoin could facilitate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3237" data-t="3237">and fund war. So that was all interesting to see.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3241" data-t="3241">But yeah, do you have any thoughts before we get into the Fallon boos? No, I think</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3246">54:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3246" data-t="3246">it's a very dynamic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3248" data-t="3248">situation right now, globally, economically,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3251" data-t="3251">socially, etcetera.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3253" data-t="3253">So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3254" data-t="3254">I mean, we're just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3256" data-t="3256">you know, what we do, we're just gonna monitor it and we will continue to provide you with</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3261">54:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3261" data-t="3261">the</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3262">54:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3262" data-t="3262">best information signal that we possibly can. How how many monitor computer monitors do you think is necessary</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3269" data-t="3269">to monitor all the situations going on right now? How many of you guys set up right now?</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3275">54:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3275" data-t="3275">I've got I've got a half a dozen. I think, when we were in Vegas, we went to the the casino</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3281" data-t="3281">casinos and we we went to a sports book</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3284" data-t="3284">and it was just it was like a it's a two movie theater walls</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3289" data-t="3289">stack on top of each other with with like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3292" data-t="3292">12 screens</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3294" data-t="3294">each.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3295">54:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3295" data-t="3295">And I think that'd be a good start. I don't know if that's enough, but it'd be a good start.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3299">54:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3299" data-t="3299">Maybe we should rent that out next year, repurpose it for monitoring the situation when we're in Vegas instead of having,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3307" data-t="3307">sports</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3308" data-t="3308">gambling on the on the screen while I have a situation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3311" data-t="3311">monitoring</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3312">55:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3312" data-t="3312">gambling. It's a great idea.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3314" data-t="3314">That's a great</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3315">55:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3315" data-t="3315">idea. Alright. Well, go into the I mean, he gamble on the situation too.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3319" data-t="3319">Yeah. Go into the boost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3321" data-t="3321">Shadrack, twenty one thousand ninety three stats says LFG,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3325" data-t="3325">heart emoji,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3327" data-t="3327">smoking emoji, hashtag 40 HPW</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3330" data-t="3330">podcast headphones.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3332">55:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3332" data-t="3332">Very, very cool guy. Shadrach's one of my</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3336" data-t="3336">favorite people in the world. Always appreciate the people.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3340">55:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3340" data-t="3340">Thank you, Shadrach.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3342">55:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3342" data-t="3342">Look forward to hanging out with you again soon. Yeah. I don't know when the next time I see him. I always run into Shadrach. I will probably expected</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3349" data-t="3349">tires.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3351">55:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3351" data-t="3351">I I I probably expect I'll probably see him at Lake Satoshi. Mhmm. I'm excited for that. Excited for that. Next one</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3359" data-t="3359">next one is from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3361" data-t="3361">well, this is a good one.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3363" data-t="3363">It's from Noah. How do you say her last name? Noah Grumman? Yeah. Like, Martha Grumman. The, I just say groomer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3369" data-t="3369">The, defense contractor.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3372" data-t="3372">From Israel. So</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3373">56:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3373" data-t="3373">bidding</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3375" data-t="3375">says rocking a scar dust shirt.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3377" data-t="3377">Talking about it on a Bitcoin podcast. You just made the awesome humans who are scar dust Hall of Fame.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3383" data-t="3383">So yeah, Noah is the lead singer of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3386" data-t="3386">the progressive metal band scar dust.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3389" data-t="3389">If you follow us very closely, you probably heard us talk about scar dust. You've probably seen us post about scar dust. You've probably seen their music on our timeline.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3398">56:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3398" data-t="3398">But if you haven't,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3400" data-t="3400">you should check them out.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3403" data-t="3403">Look them up on there on nostril now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3405" data-t="3405">Noah is on.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3408" data-t="3408">He's on Twitter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3409" data-t="3409">They're doing a giveaway right now. By the time you hear this, it's gonna be too late. But due to the hypersonic missiles,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3416">56:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3416" data-t="3416">they were unable to get out of Israel to go to BGC Prague this week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3421" data-t="3421">They'll be doing some underground bomb shelter orange filling tours.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3426" data-t="3426">So in, you know, if you don't have access to Dennis Porter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3430" data-t="3430">audio or video,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3432" data-t="3432">and you still would like to orange pill friends and family look for a stardust,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3437" data-t="3437">you know, performance in one of the</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3440">57:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3440" data-t="3440">subway systems or wherever they got, like, all kinds of crazy bomb shelters down there. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3444" data-t="3444">check that out.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3446">57:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3446" data-t="3446">I absolutely love Scardust. I've been so they've been doing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3452" data-t="3452">Zap. Stream,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3453" data-t="3453">livestream</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3455" data-t="3455">for</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3455">over a week now. It's been great. When I'm sitting there and writing, I'll be listening. I kind of oscillate back and forth between Scardust and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3464" data-t="3464">Mozart</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3465">57:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3465" data-t="3465">and Tchaikovsky.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3466" data-t="3466">I've been listening to a lot of Tchaikovsky recently.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3469" data-t="3469">But you know, for me,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3471" data-t="3471">when I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3473" data-t="3473">of Scardust, I kinda look at them in the same way that Dagny Taggart looked at Richard Halley and Atlas Shrugged.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3481" data-t="3481">And, fortunately they haven't disappeared and got off the face of the earth but I'm,</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3487">58:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3487" data-t="3487">impatiently waiting for their new album which is coming out mid July. I think it's like July 18 and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3494" data-t="3494">so roughly roughly a month from now, they're gonna release their new album. I'm pretty excited about it. But yeah. Thank you for the boost, Noah. Next boost, Late Stage HODL five thousand sats. Okay. I guess before I read this boost, I got some exciting news, Rod. It sounds like Late Stage HODL is gonna be at Lake Satoshi. So we're gonna be able to meet him.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3513" data-t="3513">Late stage Yes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3516" data-t="3516">Wow. Last minute booth. Fifty two minutes ago.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3520" data-t="3520">Almost missed it. If we didn't record late today, we would have missed his booth. His booth.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3525" data-t="3525">He's always coming in late too. Oh, hell yeah. I almost missed this episode. Here's a pre listen boost. My vacation this past weekend really cut into my 40 HPW.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3535">58:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3535" data-t="3535">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3536" data-t="3536">you made it just in the nick of time. Ron and I are recording a little bit late, unfortunately.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3541" data-t="3541">Or well, in this case, fortunately. So you got in.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3545" data-t="3545">Whatever your vacation was, I'm sure is well deserved. Hope you enjoyed it. Next one is from,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3550">59:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3550" data-t="3550">from Jason C,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3552" data-t="3552">the co host of back on the chain with fundamentals the fish Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3558" data-t="3558">podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3560" data-t="3560">Hi, hybrids, not the right word, whatever, but you know, you know what it is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3566" data-t="3566">Which is actually it's a great if you like jam bands you like, even if you don't like jam bands and fish,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3572" data-t="3572">it's really good because they tie they tie so much</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3577">59:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3577" data-t="3577">of just like culture.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3579" data-t="3579">If you're if you're, if you're like an old Gen X guy, like those guys are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3583" data-t="3583">you like remembering things from the 90s.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3587" data-t="3587">They talk a lot about the 90s. And how cool was the 90s.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3591" data-t="3591">They talked about basically,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3593" data-t="3593">what it was like being</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3594">59:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3594" data-t="3594">a, this is what being a fish fan was back then, and probably still is today.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3600" data-t="3600">It was like being a big corner before there was Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3603" data-t="3603">Like, you probably didn't know too many people in your hometown who liked fish.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3608" data-t="3608">But you would go to shows it was like, holy shit, there's like all these people that show up to this like big event, this big conference</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3614" data-t="3614">in there, she's a concert.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3617" data-t="3617">He could go to meetups. So you could you find like weird internet forums and like, just small websites where you could you could download</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3626">1:00:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3626" data-t="3626">fish music that they had recorded, you know, live at a show.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3630" data-t="3630">And it was it was just a very esoteric</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3633" data-t="3633">community of people who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3636" data-t="3636">listen to forty hours of content,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3638" data-t="3638">very unique content per week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3641" data-t="3641">And we're able to share</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3643">1:00:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3643" data-t="3643">a lot of great experiences do you and do mushrooms and acid together?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3649" data-t="3649">Yeah, and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3650" data-t="3650">you add some if you like if you like Bitcoin podcasts, this is also a Bitcoin podcast, but it's it's also more than a Bitcoin podcast, I think you'll enjoy it. So you should definitely check out back on the chain at least one time and see if you like it. I think you will.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3665" data-t="3665">But yeah, anyways, thank you for the 2,121</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3669" data-t="3669">sats. Jason said, in a world where everyone who writes code or dreams up another stupid MSTR derivative as an, quote, unquote, engineer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3678" data-t="3678">We are called to take a stand. Words matter. We are not plaids.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3682">1:01:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3682" data-t="3682">We are pioneers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3684" data-t="3684">And that the attack was just goes back to what I was saying. They corners, pioneers ish fans, especially in the nineties.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3691" data-t="3691">They were pioneers. They were pioneers of music, pioneers of culture, and pioneers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3696" data-t="3696">of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3698" data-t="3698">inhaling balloons full of nitrous in the parking lot after a show, which is, you know, people still do that today. But now they the user experience for getting high on nitrous</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3708" data-t="3708">is improved dramatically</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3710">1:01:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3710" data-t="3710">since, like, 1992.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3712" data-t="3712">So</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3712">you can probably</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3714" data-t="3714">eat one of that is thanks to Fishmans.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3716">1:01:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3716" data-t="3716">Well, I think doing nitrous at a, Phish concert is much different than doing it at a mumble rap concert. You You know what I mean?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3724" data-t="3724">Very different experience.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3726" data-t="3726">Absolutely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3727" data-t="3727">Yeah. One of the things that I really have grown to appreciate about Phish, and I wouldn't say I listen to them a whole lot,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3736" data-t="3736">but I have grown an appreciation as a result of the podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3740" data-t="3740">The one thing that I've learned is, no show was like</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3744">1:02:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3744" data-t="3744">a previous show. And it's very unusual for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3747" data-t="3747">for music performances because oftentimes they're very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3752" data-t="3752">scripted and rehearsed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3754" data-t="3754">and it's a big thing but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3758" data-t="3758">the style at which</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3760" data-t="3760">Fish</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3761">1:02:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3761" data-t="3761">performed, it was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3763" data-t="3763">it had</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3764" data-t="3764">improv</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3765" data-t="3765">aspects to it every time. And so, you know, you go to a lot of these concerts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3769" data-t="3769">sometimes it feels a little bit impersonal because you're you're like, the only thing that's different between this show and every other show that this guy did</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3778" data-t="3778">was which city. They say, how's it going? You know what I mean?</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3782">1:03:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3782" data-t="3782">They're in New York. They say, how's it going, New York? They're in New</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3786" data-t="3786">Jersey. They say, how's it going, New Jersey? You know, you go to Philadelphia. How's it going? Like, that's that's like the variable that that differs from time to time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3794" data-t="3794">And once in a while, if you could get them a little bit drunk and tired, they they might mix up which city they're in. That's always funny.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3802" data-t="3802">But yeah, Phish was very unique in that that front. I got a lot of respect for it. But yeah, we've got a lot of musicians,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3810" data-t="3810">or music fans in this episode.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3812" data-t="3812">The next boost, Zazzowowow,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3814">1:03:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3814" data-t="3814">2,000 stats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3816" data-t="3816">Zazzowowowow</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3817" data-t="3817">put out a banger on Wave Lake. It was trending last week. I'll have to go look and see if it's trending there. It's called Govcocks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3826" data-t="3826">Go check it out. Great,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3828" data-t="3828">great song.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3829" data-t="3829">Really cool. Hope he,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3831">1:03:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3831" data-t="3831">sticks with it, continues it. Next one is from Bliza.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3835">1:03:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3835" data-t="3835">1,010</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3836" data-t="3836">sats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3837" data-t="3837">Have a KYC</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3839" data-t="3839">free sig on me.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3842" data-t="3842">Blizzard's the we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3843" data-t="3843">we give us free KYC cigarette every episode.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3848">1:04:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3848" data-t="3848">Thanks to</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3849">1:04:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3849" data-t="3849">Bliza.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3850">1:04:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3850" data-t="3850">We appreciate you, man.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3852" data-t="3852">The next one is a double boost. Bliza is a double booster or, you know, it's a no stir thing. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3858" data-t="3858">yeah, man. Thanks for the thanks for the boost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3861" data-t="3861">Another double one from Turkey here is coming up next.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3865" data-t="3865">That's for it's funny. We got the next two booster from Turkey and Bob the cat. We got a lot of of farm animals. I guess turkeys are really farm animals, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3874" data-t="3874">it's good to</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3875">1:04:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3875" data-t="3875">have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3876" data-t="3876">animals as fans. Hell yeah.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3879">1:04:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3879" data-t="3879">Let me let's let's read through these real quick.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3882" data-t="3882">500 Sands Bob the Cow. Orange Pillars are as brave as the pilgrims who sailed to the new world.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3888" data-t="3888">I think in a lot of cases, yes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3891" data-t="3891">A lot of cases, yes. Orange Pillars have been pretty brave and some of them have made some pretty</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3897" data-t="3897">catastrophic mistakes in the process. But that's part about going into the unknown and taking risks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3904" data-t="3904">To have massive rewards, you have to take, oftentimes</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3908">1:05:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3908" data-t="3908">take massive risks. You oftentimes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3911" data-t="3911">don't get very ahead in life by just playing it safe. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3915" data-t="3915">the pilgrims</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3917" data-t="3917">sure got ahead. The ones that were successful,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3919" data-t="3919">they they settled</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3921" data-t="3921">a whole new world. You say the founding of America, if it wasn't for that, if it wasn't the pilgrims coming here, we wouldn't have podcasts. That's true. That's true.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3930">1:05:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3930" data-t="3930">Very comfort Turkey. Turkey goes with 500 sats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3935" data-t="3935">BGC onboard, another,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3937" data-t="3937">another regular 300 sats, lightning emoji, thumbs up, thumbs up.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3942" data-t="3942">And now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3944" data-t="3944">the rest of the people on this list,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3946" data-t="3946">they did not boost us.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3948">1:05:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3948" data-t="3948">So we normally don't,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3949" data-t="3949">well, actually, it looks like it's It's just post just doubles. I don't know. They're just post I think it's just doubles. I think.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3956">1:05:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3956" data-t="3956">So when somebody posts the episode link on the Oster,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3960" data-t="3960">it puts it in the list. We</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3963" data-t="3963">appreciate if you do that. That's a boost</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3966" data-t="3966">in itself. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3968" data-t="3968">yeah. We'll only we'll need you only get past our spam filters if you if you send us some Satoshi.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3975" data-t="3975">But, yeah.</span></span></p>
    +
    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3977">1:06:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3977" data-t="3977">Anyways, you got any closing thoughts before we wrap this one up? No. No. I think, I think we covered it before the boost. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3984" data-t="3984">what's coming up? I mean, we got we got another episode before July 4.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3990" data-t="3990">Yeah. I think we've been done. So we'll see if we'll see if there's any Iran or Israel. I mean, Israel is winning, so we'll see if there's any Iran left.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3998" data-t="3998">Let's we'll see if Trump</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4001" data-t="4001">tries to make make the plebs go to war. I don't know. I this is this it's gonna be a it's gonna be a spicy summer, I think.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4009">1:06:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4009" data-t="4009">It's gonna be fiery, but mostly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4011" data-t="4011">mostly peaceful.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4014" data-t="4014">That's good for big Quinn. Well, anyways, thank you for to everybody that tuned in to this edition of the Bugle Weekly, and we'll catch you here again next week.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4024">1:07:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4024" data-t="4024">You saw that Shane was filling fast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4029" data-t="4029">You claimed the mempool</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4031" data-t="4031">couldn't last.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4033" data-t="4033">But every note should charge its own.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4037" data-t="4037">We build the tools, not set the tone.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4042" data-t="4042">You cry for knots for filtered streams,</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4046">1:07:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4046" data-t="4046">but censorship</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4048" data-t="4048">fulfills</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4049" data-t="4049">no dreams.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4051" data-t="4051">And though we see the spam you fight,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4055" data-t="4055">we won't hard code what's wrong or right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4059" data-t="4059">So hold the line, we won't forget.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4064">1:07:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4064" data-t="4064">The data flows just as it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4085" data-t="4085">You locked it down, you fought the tide.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4089" data-t="4089">But we saw harm when rules divide.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4094" data-t="4094">We let the free flow take its course</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4098" data-t="4098">and mitigate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4100" data-t="4100">without</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4100">1:08:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" data-t="4100">brute force.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4102" data-t="4102">Our men pool's big, our code is lean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4107" data-t="4107">but not a tool for cleansing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4110" data-t="4110">means.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4111" data-t="4111">We won't pick</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4113" data-t="4113">the</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4154">1:09:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4154" data-t="4154">We don't endorse</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4155" data-t="4155">the JPEG</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4174" data-t="4174">This chain was made to let all in.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4183" data-t="4183">Not filtered</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4185" data-t="4185">tight to fit one</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4187" data-t="4187">spin.</span></span></p>
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    +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4188">1:09:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4188" data-t="4188">So hold the line, we won't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4191" data-t="4191">forbid.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4193" data-t="4193">The data flows just as it did.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4197" data-t="4197">We passed the</span></span></p>