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diff --git a/wiki/transcripts/comedy-fundamentals-with-fundamentals-bugle-weekly-episode-25.md b/wiki/transcripts/comedy-fundamentals-with-fundamentals-bugle-weekly-episode-25.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6d13d317 @@ -0,0 +1,955 @@ +--- +title: "Transcript: Comedy Fundamentals With Fundamentals | Bugle Weekly Episode 25" +type: transcript +episode: comedy-fundamentals-with-fundamentals-bugle-weekly-episode-25 +generated: true +date: 2024-09-09 +audio: "https://feeds.fountain.fm/R8scBF2Wiykm0YVldsHQ/items/dEBVMtPfnvLrXTdDpEnZ/files/AUDIO---DEFAULT---dfd45d6d-4c19-47c9-96ce-9ba8c4feab2a.mp3" +duration: "2:05:00" +sources: + - raw/episodes/comedy-fundamentals-with-fundamentals-bugle-weekly-episode-25/bundle.json +--- + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-0">0:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-0" data-t="0">It is with profound joy and sexual pleasure</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3" data-t="3">that I come to you with news of your haters demise.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-7" data-t="7">Every bitch, baby, pussy boy, and fat bitch with a wet bum who has talked shit on your good name is about to be cursed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-14" data-t="14">with a winter so frigid that they will lose a minimum of three toes to frostbite.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-19" data-t="19">Their relationships will corrode.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-22" data-t="22">Discontent will accompany every breath they take.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-25">0:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-25" data-t="25">Their finances will dry up like elderly poontang.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-29" data-t="29">Every sour seed they have sown with you in mind will be harvested for them to choke upon.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-35" data-t="35">All of your haters are about to spend their mornings scrubbing dog shit off their crocs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-40" data-t="40">Their debit cards will get declined,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-42" data-t="42">forcing them to be looked down upon by a three hundred pound woman in a referee shirt named Unique.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-49" data-t="49">Every person who dares to root for your misfortune will have their Big Mac clenched</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-55">0:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-55" data-t="55">by the pungent scrotum of a brain damaged McDonald's employee</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-59">0:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-59" data-t="59">who spends most of his shift watching cartel beheading videos on his phone at full volume.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-64" data-t="64">They'll also have their beloved Cookie Monster pajama pants</span> <span class="cue" id="t-68" data-t="68">stolen out of the dryer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-69" data-t="69">while they take a shit in a laundromat bathroom whose overhead light burns out before they can wipe.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-75" data-t="75">As luck would have it, your haters are also about to endure some medical issues.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-80" data-t="80">They'll develop a mouth to asshole rash which will perplex dermatologists</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-84">1:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-84" data-t="84">and mortify lovers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-86" data-t="86">They'll also develop acne so severe that each red hot bump on their face will be confused for the penis of a sex crazed beagle.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-95" data-t="95">Dear friend,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-96" data-t="96">as your haters endure this marathon of misery,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-100" data-t="100">may your days be a bukkake</span> <span class="cue" id="t-102" data-t="102">of cash,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-103">1:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-103" data-t="103">positivity,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-104" data-t="104">and love.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-105" data-t="105">Those are the words of comedian Mike Rainey,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-108" data-t="108">and that is dedicated to all behaviors</span> <span class="cue" id="t-111" data-t="111">of the Bugle.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-112" data-t="112">Let's go.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-118">1:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kailey Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-118" data-t="118">This is Kaley Welch, and you are listening to the Bugle Weekly, the most thermodynamically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-122" data-t="122">sound podcast in</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-128">2:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-128" data-t="128">the world.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-130">2:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-130" data-t="130">Hell, yeah. Welcome back to the Bitcoin Bugle. I am back this week. Rob Lumber is in the house. And today's a special special episode. This is the first time we got a guest.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-141" data-t="141">Myself and Richard are here to interview them and to chat with them. So we're really excited. And today we're here with fundamentals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-148" data-t="148">from the rock paper Bitcoin podcast. He is from The Big Apple,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-153" data-t="153">the city of Fentanyl, Philadelphia.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-157" data-t="157">How are you doing, Fundamentals?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-158">2:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-158" data-t="158">I'm doing pretty good. I thought The Big Apple was New York.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-161" data-t="161">But, Wow. Tomato to Mayo. I'm from there. I'm from there too.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-166">2:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-166" data-t="166">So for a little bit of context,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-168" data-t="168">fundamentals is a little bit newer to Bitcoin than some of our listeners. He's in he's listened to over one thousand hours of half day Bitcoin. He was orange pill by the best by Tomer, by Natalie Brunel, by Sam Callahan, but he's also</span> <span class="cue" id="t-182" data-t="182">an aspiring comedian, and he's looking to tell his first funny joke. And, hopefully, we will get that first funny joke today here on this episode. Dude. So</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-191">3:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-191" data-t="191">let's go. You are literally wearing a t shirt</span> <span class="cue" id="t-194" data-t="194">that says Manhattan with a fucking big apple on</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-197">3:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-197" data-t="197">it. I have but there's big apples all over the Northeast. I thought it was all it was all</span> <span class="cue" id="t-202" data-t="202">connected. The city out of the city and the city of brotherly lab. That's why Philadelphia is known for. Is that because, that word is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-210" data-t="210">where, the guy, the actor, he got AIDS in Philadelphia?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-213">3:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-213" data-t="213">That that's correct.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-215">3:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-215" data-t="215">Yeah. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-216" data-t="216">Who am I thinking? I I have brain farting</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-218">3:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-218" data-t="218">in every time? He tries to get AIDS everywhere.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-220">3:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-220" data-t="220">Tomics. Tomics. Tomics. Tomics. Tomics. Tomics. Tomics. Tomics. Tomics. Tomics. Tomics. Tomics. Tomics. Tomics. Tomics. Tomics. Tomics. Tomics. He's he's Gallagher,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-223" data-t="223">the comedian with the, the mallets and the watermelons? Is he from Philadelphia as well? He should be.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-230">3:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-230" data-t="230">He should be. Alright. Wow. Thank you so much. That's I mean, I tried to tell you guys this, like, really early on, you know, when you guys were working for PodConf</span> <span class="cue" id="t-239" data-t="239">and you guys were like, No, but we we know the deal. You know, we only work for them, but we're not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-245" data-t="245">associated with them. You guys, you just, you have no idea the effect it has when you work, when you're, even, you don't even have to work for them. You just, like, letting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-254" data-t="254">first of all, I'm not even sure if that was the real Steven Luca that was on the show last week, to be honest.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-259">4:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-259" data-t="259">But like Okay. Okay. We talked about it a little bit before we started recording. Can you get into</span> <span class="cue" id="t-266" data-t="266">why you're why you're skeptical</span> <span class="cue" id="t-268" data-t="268">of this?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-269" data-t="269">You listen to a lot of Deafy Bitcoin, so you know him, and you know his voice very well.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-275" data-t="275">So if anybody's asked for Amir if anybody's got the credentials</span> <span class="cue" id="t-279" data-t="279">to question</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-280">4:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-280" data-t="280">Steve and Luca, it would be you. That is correct. Dude, I used to look forward to those macro Fridays, man.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-287" data-t="287">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-288" data-t="288">I think Steven Lukka is a brilliant guy. Okay?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-292" data-t="292">And when he goes on, even, like, some of the funny talker podcasts that I typically don't like, If he's on it, I will go listen to it because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-300" data-t="300">you know, he's a smart guy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-303" data-t="303">That is so dude, I did not get that. I didn't get any of that last week. Like, not even a scintilla</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-309">5:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-309" data-t="309">of that dude</span> <span class="cue" id="t-311" data-t="311">from the conversation last week. I basically got a guy making really fucking lame</span> <span class="cue" id="t-317" data-t="317">jokes about PodCon, honestly, and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-321">5:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-321" data-t="321">I don't know. A fan, did it?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-323">5:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-323" data-t="323">It was it was like I don't know. I kinda found it galling in a certain way. Maybe like this is just somewhat you guys just growing into yourselves, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-334" data-t="334">I feel like Podkoff,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-337" data-t="337">got a big W and you guys took a big L last week.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-341">5:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-341" data-t="341">I would I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-343" data-t="343">I ate a lot of bruises at El Salvador, and I really grew into myself</span> <span class="cue" id="t-347" data-t="347">down there. And I so I think I've kind of got</span> <span class="cue" id="t-351" data-t="351">a good grasp. This isn't my first rodeo,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-354" data-t="354">so to speak. But, Ari,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-356" data-t="356">are you accusing</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-359">5:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-359" data-t="359">the last episode of being what we used to call native advertising where it was basically a pod comp</span> <span class="cue" id="t-366" data-t="366">cock fest ad,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-368">6:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-368" data-t="368">that we disguised as regular content? Not at all. No. Not at all. I I think I think you guys I wouldn't come on this show if I didn't think you guys acted in good faith. You know?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-379" data-t="379">I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-380" data-t="380">you guys are,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-382" data-t="382">still figuring out the world. It's only been a it's only been a month or so. And by the way, I'm the first to say it, like, the quality of what you guys do, it's so noticeable. Like, after you broke your contract with PodComp, it's totally fucking noticeable.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-397" data-t="397">I I don't think you get a get like Kaylee.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-401" data-t="401">By the way, what's up Kaylee? Looking good. But I don't think you get a get like that with PodConf. I don't even think you get the idea, to be honest. Right? So like the the quality</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-410">6:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-410" data-t="410">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-411" data-t="411">much better.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-412" data-t="412">You know, there's no association.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-414" data-t="414">And I thought you were really just trying to bring a smart guy even though, like I feel like you guys were willing to bring him on because he's smart and has</span> <span class="cue" id="t-423" data-t="423">can shed light on some things.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-425" data-t="425">And I'm just it almost occur it almost occurred to me like it just</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-429">7:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-429" data-t="429">like, that motherfucker ain't real.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-432">7:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-432" data-t="432">So let me be clear.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-434">7:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-434" data-t="434">What can be,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-436" data-t="436">unburdened by what has been.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-439">7:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-439" data-t="439">And Cornpop was a bad dude,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-441" data-t="441">and he ran a bunch of bad boys.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-445">7:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-445" data-t="445">We are progressive Bitcoiners for Kamala Harris, and these are our stories.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-453" data-t="453">In your own words, why do you believe progressives need Bitcoin?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-457">7:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Unknown</b> <span class="cue" id="t-457" data-t="457">When I think about why progressives need Bitcoin, I think of trans folks who face an inordinate amount of economic struggles, not least of which is the gender pay gap.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-466" data-t="466">After completing their transition, many trans women find themselves taking 20% pay cuts and unable to afford their taxes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-474" data-t="474">I'm Jennifer from Texas, and this is my story. That's why I believe progressives need Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-482">8:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-482" data-t="482">Yeah. I would disagree. I I think Lobka, you know, he did a good job. I think it's important to have him on on the show. You know, and, like, part of part of what's really important,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-493" data-t="493">you know, for the intellectual Silk Road is converting PODConf</span> <span class="cue" id="t-496" data-t="496">people, you know. And all I did was, like, ask questions and essentially, you know, show, you know, just how lame PodConv is. Because, like, people Right.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-505">8:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-505" data-t="505">People don't want Yeah. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-508" data-t="508">I think this is similar</span> <span class="cue" id="t-512" data-t="512">to like, if you are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-516" data-t="516">anti</span> <span class="cue" id="t-517" data-t="517">conservative, you still go on like the Tucker Carlson show because you want to reach his audience. You want to give them the right message.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-524" data-t="524">And I think that, this is kind of the same where maybe flip the script a little bit where it's, we'll have a Podcove approach person, because not every the world is not black and white. It's not Podcove versus non Podcove. There are a lot of people in Podcove who are just working for a salary.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-540">9:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-540" data-t="540">And if you look at all the contributions,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-542" data-t="542">like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-544" data-t="544">the sun is important,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-546" data-t="546">welding and exercise is important. He is preaching these things that you're not gonna get this information in other sources.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-552" data-t="552">So he</span> <span class="cue" id="t-554" data-t="554">the question is, is Lubbock a net positive or a net negative or is it a wash? And I would say that there are times where, especially when</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-564">9:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-564" data-t="564">he's talking about health,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-566" data-t="566">it's a net positive.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-567">9:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-567" data-t="567">Yeah. Well, here's my problem. So he didn't come on and talk about any of that. He wasn't his like 180 IQ self. He was like 110 IQ version of himself. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-578" data-t="578">you know, if anything, I think he took an L on his name</span> <span class="cue" id="t-581" data-t="581">for</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-582">9:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-582" data-t="582">portraying himself that way and staying under his own name. I love that he was under instruction from Podkoff to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-589" data-t="589">deliver the message that he delivered. I mean, he is under contract. He has a little bit more to lose in his contract than we did, which was just our real plan memberships. So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-599" data-t="599">you know, perhaps Lotka</span> <span class="cue" id="t-601" data-t="601">is a good dude, but he is compromised. And if Lotka is compromised, that means anybody who is in PodCon, like, maybe somebody from Simply Bitcoin,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-610">10:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-610" data-t="610">you're like, these guys are Sentinel, but they or they could still be compromised. But he can't be himself when he comes on here. Like, we come then, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-619" data-t="619">this is your house,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-620" data-t="620">right?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-621">10:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-621" data-t="621">He has to he he are you saying he's not allowed to be himself? No. I'm not saying he's not allowed to. I'm saying maybe he didn't he he didn't think he was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-629" data-t="629">able to do that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-631">10:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-631" data-t="631">It's just one of the whole challenges with dealing with PodCon in general is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-636" data-t="636">you know, you have to go through the KYC process, right,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-640" data-t="640">with them? And so in that, you know, they have your home address. Like, they know where you live. They know where your family is. And that's, like, a lot of pressure. And, like, even if there aren't explicit demands</span> <span class="cue" id="t-651" data-t="651">I mean, you can see how aggressive the PodConf Twitter account is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-656" data-t="656">you know, coming after us, bossing us around,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-659" data-t="659">you know, encouraging us. They're trying to sue</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-662">11:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-662" data-t="662">us. Well, they're they're trying to get the Department of Justice</span> <span class="cue" id="t-666" data-t="666">to essentially investigate us right now to see if,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-669" data-t="669">you know, we're in colluding with the Russians.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-672" data-t="672">Essentially, like, you know, colluding with the Russians means,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-678" data-t="678">you don't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-679" data-t="679">share the Podkoff talking points. Like, that's essentially what that</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-683">11:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-683" data-t="683">Right. And one of the biggest defenses that we have that we have not been paid by Russia is that we don't currently</span> <span class="cue" id="t-692" data-t="692">accept US dollars</span> <span class="cue" id="t-693" data-t="693">or Monero</span> <span class="cue" id="t-695" data-t="695">for payment. So it's very unlikely that, intelligence agencies in Moscow have been able to even get to us or reach us because we don't accept their form of money. We gotta use the KGB Monero coin. Yeah. I mean, when Ted Pool was getting paid by Russia today, you know, he's getting paid by, US dollars.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-714">11:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-714" data-t="714">Like we explicitly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-716" data-t="716">block ourselves off from that intentionally</span> <span class="cue" id="t-719" data-t="719">by using Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-721">12:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-721" data-t="721">And maybe it was a loss for PodConf all around because now, like, I just think a lot of people when they like, a lot of people maybe not like maybe they don't like Peter McCormack's podcast. Okay? But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-733" data-t="733">if there's a lot of people who don't like that, to be sure. We wanna make sure that that is yeah. Agree. But a lot of these people, if they see Steven is on his show, they'll be like, they'll suck it up because to see his signal. I'm definitely Sure. One of those guys. And I think a lot I think after last week's appearance,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-750" data-t="750">like, even the possibility that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-752" data-t="752">he</span> <span class="cue" id="t-753" data-t="753">maybe, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-755" data-t="755">that he's not gonna give his full signal, which is brilliant. Right? He's a brilliant man. And, like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-762">12:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-762" data-t="762">I just think that now I don't know how much risk I wanna take</span> <span class="cue" id="t-766" data-t="766">listening to a podcast I don't like just because he's on it. Where is it? So maybe Podkomf's losing a little bit here too. So maybe he isn't</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-774">12:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-774" data-t="774">That's a good perspective.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-775" data-t="775">Talking about risk when it comes to Steven Lundka,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-779" data-t="779">if you follow him on Twitter, you see he posts his pictures of, him after he worked out and he's getting pretty ripped. Would you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-787" data-t="787">feel comfortable letting your wife go to the gym knowing Steve of love can mind either working out?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-793">13:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-793" data-t="793">No fucking way, man.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-795" data-t="795">No fucking way. He he's gonna think I actually don't like him in real life because of he's gonna think I'm being sarcastic this whole time. I'm not I genuinely like you, and I didn't like you last week. Wow. Moving on. One of the things that we talk a lot about with</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-810">13:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-810" data-t="810">people on the intellectual Silk Road, such as yourself, that we don't necessarily</span> <span class="cue" id="t-814" data-t="814">really get into the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-815" data-t="815">you know, talking baseball, so to speak, is some of the satire and comedy that we see in the space. And it's something that you really like and something that you're really into.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-826" data-t="826">Can you kind of talk about your failed journey in standup comedy and like why you're so drawn to standup comedy podcasts? So I think outside of Bitcoin podcasts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-837" data-t="837">the largest growing industry</span> <span class="cue" id="t-840" data-t="840">is comedy podcasts. And you're a big fan of both.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-843">14:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-843" data-t="843">Absolutely. Indeed. And, you know, before I get into that, like, I really do think we're making history today on the Bugle podcast. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-851" data-t="851">I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-852" data-t="852">I'm the first person really who's coming on as themself.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-855" data-t="855">And it's really fucking confusing to do this and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-859" data-t="859">I think it's gonna be awesome still.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-862" data-t="862">And you're right man, I had a beautifully failed</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-865">14:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-865" data-t="865">comedy career.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-867" data-t="867">The biggest, you know, I had my ups and downs. Okay. I did open mics for three years. Personal, had some personal achievements,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-875" data-t="875">but never,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-876" data-t="876">I mean, it's hard not to call it a failure when You never got to a podcast level, though. Well, I mean, the last time I actually the last open mic I went to I was still waiting at two in the morning to go up. Like I had really had I was a nobody, like an absolute nobody. My only claim to fame was like you know I got to hang out with guys like Matt McCusker and you know all of Shane's boys but I left I left that scene like a minute before Shane arrived. I never knew him. So I don't even get Dan Gillis, of course. He's talking about Shane Gillis, the one of the most famous comedians in the world right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-908" data-t="908">Correct. Yes. We established that I was from Philadelphia doing that open mic scene. The Big Apple.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-913">15:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-913" data-t="913">The Big Apple. The Big Apple. Yeah. Now the fucking Big Apple.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-916" data-t="916">At one point, I,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-919" data-t="919">got so angry during an open mic that I got in front of the room and said that I would bet my life savings for the rest of my life that not a single person in this room is gonna make it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-928" data-t="928">And, I'm pretty sure</span> <span class="cue" id="t-930" data-t="930">no none of the guys that have made it were there. So I think I'm okay on that bet. What what, what prompted this frustration? What prompted this outburst?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-940">15:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-940" data-t="940">So it's I I I as somebody who has followed the comedy game for a long time,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-948" data-t="948">it's not a perfect one to one comparison,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-950" data-t="950">but being able to tell good jokes on stage and get the audience to laugh is similar to being able to orange pill. And if you can't do one and you can't do the other, right, so you you can kinda compare the strategies. So were you were were you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-965" data-t="965">a successful orange pillar on stage,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-968">16:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-968" data-t="968">so to speak? It depends what your definition of success was. For me, if I like would hear my tape back and I hear like one laugh or one like, oh fuck. Like as long as people reacted,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-979" data-t="979">I was pretty happy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-981">16:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-981" data-t="981">Do you have a joke that that was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-984" data-t="984">that you're most proud of? Or what was your style? Was it like Mitch Hedberg one liners or did you have stories or a persona?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-992">16:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-992" data-t="992">I was I think, like, my comedy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-995" data-t="995">idol really was Greg Duraldo, and I think it took me a long time to grow out of his voice. So I think most of the jokes I wrote were just sort of had him in my mind.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1005" data-t="1005">So Greg Giraldo, Patrice O'Neil, Jim Norton, guys like that. So, alright, I mean, I'm happy to tell</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1015" data-t="1015">a couple I'll tell one of the jokes that I was most proud of. Let's go.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1019">16:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1019" data-t="1019">Okay.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1021">17:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1021" data-t="1021">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1023" data-t="1023">a lot of what my set was built around was that I have a Latino wife,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1029" data-t="1029">Latina wife.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1032" data-t="1032">So I would ease into that a little bit and then I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1035" data-t="1035">would ease into that and then I would get to this the following joke which is I would say it's very hard to be married to a Latina. There are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1045" data-t="1045">a lot of cultural difficulties</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1047">17:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1047" data-t="1047">that we have to work out.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1049" data-t="1049">For example,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1050" data-t="1050">I occasionally like being on time for things. She couldn't give a fuck.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1055" data-t="1055">And like we could</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1056" data-t="1056">fight very hard</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1058" data-t="1058">just about being on time somewhere. It would drive me crazy. But like I've never raised a hand to her, I've never been violent, I've never had anything like that happen. And that is also unfortunate because now her parents don't think I love her.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1073">17:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1073" data-t="1073">That's pretty good.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1075" data-t="1075">Did how did she think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1078" data-t="1078">your jokes? How did how did they hit with her? She loved it. They she</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1082">18:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1082" data-t="1082">I don't know. I mean, women love when you talk about them</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1085">18:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1085" data-t="1085">pretty much. It's like you could say They do. They just allowed to be this center of attention. Right? Yeah. She's like, oh, he's tough. And that's why that's why that's how that's how how I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1094" data-t="1094">we should</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1096" data-t="1096">tailor our message to get more women in Bitcoin is let them know if you come to the Bitcoin conference or you come on a Bitcoin podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1104" data-t="1104">you will be the center of attention. Everybody will want to talk to you. You'll be the biggest guest because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1111" data-t="1111">people just want to hear, especially if you're attractive, they just wanna hear your orange peeling story. They just wanna hear any story.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1118">18:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1118" data-t="1118">So, yeah, I think that's we should that's a that's an that's a good insight. Yeah. Very good. Did she ever hit you with a chocolate, or is that just for your kids?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1127">18:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1127" data-t="1127">I let me tell you something, man. I've</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1130" data-t="1130">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1131" data-t="1131">the family that I'm married into is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1134" data-t="1134">pretty goddamn Latina. Okay?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1137">18:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1137" data-t="1137">You know So they really like Tether. They're a big fan of Tether being from the global South. I've never like, the chanquetta, that is like</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1145">19:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1145" data-t="1145">I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna say</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1147" data-t="1147">that it's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1150" data-t="1150">it's not our style. I'll just put that. I what I what I see is hand to hand beating,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1156" data-t="1156">typically.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1157">19:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1157" data-t="1157">She just skipped the, she skips the chanquile altogether.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1161">19:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1161" data-t="1161">I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1162" data-t="1162">I guess. I, I've, I don't think she ever got a chanquiletta.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1168" data-t="1168">Although that's like a nice,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1169" data-t="1169">I feel like an, a nice meme that maybe is a it's like a catchall for, like, I got the shit beat out of me in a variety of ways, but this is like a cute way I'm gonna explain it to you. That's what I would I mean, that's a that's a what I would call tough love. Right? That's how you show your love in certain cultures.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1187">19:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1187" data-t="1187">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1188" data-t="1188">I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1189" data-t="1189">thought money is for hard men, but it's also for hard women, like a woman who grows up,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1196" data-t="1196">receiving the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1197" data-t="1197">like maybe more of like a football coach type of of relationship with her husband.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1203" data-t="1203">That makes her, I think, more appreciative of of of hard money, but I don't know. Maybe that's just my opinion. Yeah. Hard hard money should be hard to spend. Right? And it should be hard for Australia. It should be hard for your husband to fucking rip away from you. If you made if you made sure why your wife has no access to US dollars or credit cards and but she has a loaded up Bitcoin wallet,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1224">20:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1224" data-t="1224">you're safe because you can't spend it anywhere. So high money being hard to use is great for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1230" data-t="1230">a wife who doesn't</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1232">20:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1232" data-t="1232">have too much self control when it comes to spending. Yeah. I mean, I think that's a great point. And it's like, you you don't want like, probably the one of the worst things that could ever happen for Bitcoiners</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1243" data-t="1243">is for Target</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1245" data-t="1245">to allow</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1246" data-t="1246">you to spend their Bitcoin there. Because your stack is gonna</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1250">20:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1250" data-t="1250">That would be awful. That would be</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1253">20:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1253" data-t="1253">Like, this this is actually, like, an argument for why we shouldn't want women in Bitcoin. So Because if we have women in Bitcoin, the next thing you know is IKEA</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1263" data-t="1263">is gonna be supporting, you know, Bitcoin payments, and then your whole stack is just gonna be gone. Do we think Will Reeves is part of, like, the, like, the WEF and, you know, trying to</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1275">21:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1275" data-t="1275">cause divorces?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1277">21:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1277" data-t="1277">I think the and I I I had no proof of this. It's pure speculation. I'll have nothing but love for Will Reeves in full,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1285" data-t="1285">but I think that trying to make Bitcoin easier to spend</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1289" data-t="1289">is a symptom of low testosterone</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1292" data-t="1292">and I think if you look at Bitcoin, it is the perfect money for a married man for two reasons. It's hard to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1299" data-t="1299">spend and it's transparent. Your wife can't secretly spend</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1302" data-t="1302">on shoes,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1304">21:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1304" data-t="1304">clothes, a new, a new thing for the house that you don't even have a place for that you have to put in the, in the garage outside. It's hard to get into. It's full of spiders and she makes you carry it out there because she thinks one day she'll have some space in her house for this stupid item she got at the antique store.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1322" data-t="1322">When she spends that over her own credit card, I have no access to see those records. She could get out there and hide that item before I even get home.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1330" data-t="1330">But being able to go on my note and look at the addresses I've assigned to her and see that she spent, oh, a thousand SaaS today when I was at work,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1340" data-t="1340">Now I can go home and I can have a tough conversation</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1343">22:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1343" data-t="1343">with her. Yeah, I mean, I think the key is, is it's not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1347" data-t="1347">making Bitcoin impossible</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1349" data-t="1349">to spend on everything.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1351" data-t="1351">It's just Only on prem.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1353" data-t="1353">So like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1355" data-t="1355">you need to focus on the necessities because the best way to purchase cigarettes is peer to peer non KYC.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1363">22:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1363" data-t="1363">Yeah, and in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1364" data-t="1364">some states, the only place you can buy raw milk is with Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1369" data-t="1369">So it's like, those are, those are the essentials. Those are the things the family needs to survive. Raw milk, cigarettes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1376" data-t="1376">what have you, not,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1378" data-t="1378">you know, menolo Blahnik shoes, things like that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1383">23:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1383" data-t="1383">They should at least have to wait a year before they buy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1386" data-t="1386">a purse.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1388">23:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1388" data-t="1388">Yeah. Half time lock. Like once this unlocks and it's gone up 10 except for the next bull run, you can spend some of your SATs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1395" data-t="1395">on a purse. Fine. That's fine. I, in the meantime, am going to spend a few thousand dollars</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1402" data-t="1402">testing</span> <span class="cue" data-t="1402">Seed Designer, Jade,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1404" data-t="1404">Bitbox,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1405" data-t="1405">Cogard,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1406">23:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1406" data-t="1406">all of those. Those are those are,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1409" data-t="1409">I guess you could call those processes, but they're much more important. They're much</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1413">23:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1413" data-t="1413">more secure. And you get more SACS back unfold for those things. Yeah. Then honestly, if we want to get more weight in Bitcoin, we should create a special hardware wallet. They'll call it a full storage purse, and then women would love it. Well, I mean, maybe the maybe this phenomenon of why there's not more women in Bitcoin is because of things like Target. You know, they just inherently have figured out how to hijack the female's brain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1438" data-t="1438">so much that it just puts them in a perpetual state of high time preference.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1443" data-t="1443">And that's something that Bitcoin hasn't solved yet. And I don't think it's something that Bitcoin needs to solve yet.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1449">24:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1449" data-t="1449">What if a woman ran a company like Fold and got, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1452" data-t="1452">15% sats back for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1455" data-t="1455">handbags?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1456">24:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1456" data-t="1456">I think that's a really dangerous</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1459" data-t="1459">proposition.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1460">24:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1460" data-t="1460">That's really dangerous. I think Ford would have a very hard time staying in business if they had to give women that, you know, sats back every time they bought something unnecessary, that's why they had, that's why they had to remove</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1470" data-t="1470">any incentive</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1472" data-t="1472">for you to spin the wheel every day. You get like one sat because it was making them go broke. If you were going to give women money back,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1479" data-t="1479">get a point back, hold money back every time they bought something stupid, they would not be a public company anymore. They would be out of business. So I think that it should that should be very familiar with their marketing is all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. Right. But, like, you know, the more women in Bitcoin, the more we're we're gonna get a company.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1494">24:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1494" data-t="1494">We're gonna get a, like, a fold that actually makes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1498" data-t="1498">you know, makes it possible to stack Right. Like, for women to stack sets.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1502">25:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1502" data-t="1502">Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, some countries that's not even allowed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1505" data-t="1505">Maybe we could get The United States back there someday, but for now we have to take that into consideration.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1511" data-t="1511">But another,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1513" data-t="1513">that I think you could draw between comedy and Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1516" data-t="1516">and women</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1517" data-t="1517">is there's not very many women in comedy, just like there's not that many women in Bitcoin. Some people think that's a good thing, some people don't, but why so why</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1527">25:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1527" data-t="1527">similar to it's very difficult for women to be funny, why is it difficult for women to understand thermodynamics</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1534">25:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1534" data-t="1534">and Bitcoin? I don't think it's hard, actually. I think that that I think we're being psyched and we're just not we're not elevating the voices of the women that do get it. We're just not they're not getting on podcast.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1545">25:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1545" data-t="1545">Well, that's that's an interesting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1548" data-t="1548">perspective.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1549" data-t="1549">However, in my experience, if you log onto Twitter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1554" data-t="1554">and you have,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1555" data-t="1555">an avatar of a female,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1557" data-t="1557">and you go on spaces and you talk about,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1560">26:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1560" data-t="1560">you know, macro and Bitcoin like Michelle Weekly, I mean, that's how these feds use</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1566" data-t="1566">the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1568" data-t="1568">they use women to kind of infiltrate the community.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1572" data-t="1572">So if the federal, if the Fed women are able to do it so easily,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1576">26:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1576" data-t="1576">why not the theoretical non Fed woman? Maybe it is fucking pointless. Maybe understanding thermodynamics</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1583" data-t="1583">isn't that important.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1585">26:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1585" data-t="1585">Well, I mean, there was a study that was done</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1589" data-t="1589">by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1590" data-t="1590">NPR,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1591" data-t="1591">National Public Radio, and it actually made its rounds today again on Twitter, because it showed everybody at the NPR headquarters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1599" data-t="1599">took a testosterone test and every man</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1603" data-t="1603">at NPR was way below</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1606">26:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1606" data-t="1606">the healthy amount. Every single man at NPR</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1609" data-t="1609">was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1611" data-t="1611">at a level that many clinicians</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1613" data-t="1613">would recommend,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1615" data-t="1615">medication</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1616" data-t="1616">to treat</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1617">26:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1617" data-t="1617">the low testosterone</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1619" data-t="1619">and they also noticed that, with transgastema</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1621" data-t="1621">on, when they started taking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1624" data-t="1624">testosterone, they became much more interested in things like science,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1628" data-t="1628">mathematics, engineering.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1629" data-t="1629">So the dignity is just as simple</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1632">27:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1632" data-t="1632">as biology.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1633">27:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1633" data-t="1633">Well, it could be. Why do you think I don't this is an interesting question. Why do you think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1639" data-t="1639">phenomena is happening at NPR? Like, do you have a theory?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1644">27:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1644" data-t="1644">It's obvious that they believe that smoking's bad for you. Like, what what a, like, what a low tea environment, you know, to to believe that. But, like, are they Super simple. They could literally be pointing a fucking laser</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1657">27:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1657" data-t="1657">at their headquarters that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1659" data-t="1659">you know, or just feeding them estrogen in their fucking cafeteria.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1663">27:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1663" data-t="1663">Or Do you think they have to? Or maybe they just they naturally attract. They just did a good job of yeah. They just select. They know they know how to select. Self selection. Right. The soy boys.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1673" data-t="1673">Well, I think about how bad as New York City was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1677" data-t="1677">up until</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1678" data-t="1678">the 1990s.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1679" data-t="1679">And then they started banning cigarette smoking in public and look what happened. It became a much more compliant city.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1686" data-t="1686">So I think that they know</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1688">28:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1688" data-t="1688">that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1689" data-t="1689">that these effects can be</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1692">28:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1692" data-t="1692">replicated. They they could be by banning certain things. Yeah. They got rid of they got rid of all the porno and all, like, the everything there by banning smoking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1701" data-t="1701">pretty much was a laser shot</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1704" data-t="1704">to compliance.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1705">28:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1705" data-t="1705">Do you think that was the mayor's office? Do you think that was higher up?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1709" data-t="1709">I mean, Giuliani gets credit for all that. He took credit for all that, for sure. He took credit for nineeleven. He took credit for everything. Yeah. He didn't take credit for nine '11. That was runs felt like, but he took credit for the response. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1721">28:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1721" data-t="1721">Definitely. Yeah. So which court is for the nine eleven commission or,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1727">28:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1727" data-t="1727">the</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1728">28:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1728" data-t="1728">I don't think many people know this, but Rudy Giuliani temporarily</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1732" data-t="1732">lifted the smoking ban for one month after nine eleven so people could process it, effectively.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1739">28:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1739" data-t="1739">Is he taking credit for giving all those firefighters cancer? Was that like? No, that was actually because he lifted the smoking ban.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1747">29:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1747" data-t="1747">People were the firefighters were smoking. It wasn't from the wreckage, you're saying? Right, right, right. And that would that would actually that would implicate,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1755" data-t="1755">operations,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1756">29:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1756" data-t="1756">make them liable for damages. So it it we cannot admit that ever publicly. Giuliani was finished, by the way. Yeah. He was, like, gonna he was absolutely gonna lose the election. He was, like, in disgrace</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1768" data-t="1768">right before nine eleven, and a lot of people don't know that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1772" data-t="1772">And dude, it's just like nine eleven just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1774" data-t="1774">reignited at this guy's career. Similar, similar to Netanyahu,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1778">29:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1778" data-t="1778">Israel before October 7.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1781">29:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1781" data-t="1781">Very similar.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1782">29:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1782" data-t="1782">Very similar.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1784" data-t="1784">You know, not to do sidetrack. I did want to get if you had to put</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1789" data-t="1789">five faces,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1791" data-t="1791">I'm going to answer two questions, but we'll answer the first one first. Five faces,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1795" data-t="1795">the Mount Rushmore</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1797" data-t="1797">of,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1798">29:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1798" data-t="1798">of comedy and the Mount Rushmore Bitcoin podcasters.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1801" data-t="1801">Start with comedy. Who would you put on there?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1804">30:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1804" data-t="1804">Well, comedy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1806" data-t="1806">I would have,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1808" data-t="1808">gotta have Carlin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1810" data-t="1810">Okay. I would I would have,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1812" data-t="1812">I would have Greg Giraldo and I have Louie. And then it's it's kinda tough. After that, I'd probably go with, Patrice.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1819" data-t="1819">And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1821">30:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1821" data-t="1821">you know, a lot of people would go with Richard Pryor, whatever. I I I I go with Eddie Murphy because he made me laugh harder. It's good. It's been planned. It wasn't all white guys, but thank you. Even though he stole he supposedly stole a lot of Richard Pryor shit, but he made me laugh harder. So</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1834">30:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1834" data-t="1834">It's interesting because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1836" data-t="1836">George Carlin didn't really tell jokes. He wasn't funny. So why would you, why would you put him on there?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1842">30:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1842" data-t="1842">He made it, he made an impact. So I'd say the first half of his comedy career, he was all fucking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1848" data-t="1848">dopey,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1850" data-t="1850">like, you know, do you ever notice kinda comic?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1853" data-t="1853">And then something happened to him.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1857" data-t="1857">I don't know. I don't know exactly know what it was, but then he basically started podcasting on stage.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1862">31:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1862" data-t="1862">So Sam Kinison.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1864" data-t="1864">Okay. We're gonna get to that last comment she made. But Sam Kinison, he his life changed when he got in a car accident. He got hit in the head really badly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1872" data-t="1872">And then he had very impulsive,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1874" data-t="1874">very loud. And he kind of turned that he was a, he was a minister, like a Protestant minister. Right. And then a preacher. And he became,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1883" data-t="1883">a stand up comic after that. So, you know, there was some moment in Carlin's life that switched</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1889" data-t="1889">and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1891">31:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1891" data-t="1891">you kind of alluded to it, but I think something George built</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1895" data-t="1895">George Harlin in his life. And that's when precipitated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1899" data-t="1899">his change from a stand up,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1902" data-t="1902">a a mid stand up to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1905" data-t="1905">I'm so I'd bring this up. So I would put Karl in on the Bitcoin podcaster,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1910" data-t="1910">not Rashmore, because he was the OG Bitcoin podcaster.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1914">31:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1914" data-t="1914">Yeah. I mean So I'm saying I'm the least, but I disagree.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1917">31:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1917" data-t="1917">You know, he talks, he writes about how there was a moment where he was on his private jet in JFK Airport,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1923" data-t="1923">like, just doing a lot of code by himself and just had this moment where he was like, what the fuck? What the fuck am I doing?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1932" data-t="1932">I don't know. He talks about that like some counterpoint.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1936">32:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1936" data-t="1936">Doing COVID by yourself is like listening to a Bitcoin podcast by yourself and nobody to talk to about it. And you just have so much energy, so much enthusiasm, and you just wanted to talk to somebody about these things that you've learned.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1948" data-t="1948">And that's what Carlin did. He decided to take it on stage. She didn't have, or there was no RSS feedback then. There was no digital podcasting. There was only,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1956" data-t="1956">you basically got people to pay you and you would stand on stage and you would tell them why the system was broken, then you would give them answers. And that's what really Carl wasn't doing. And I think Bill Hicks is another good example of that. He doesn't he wasn't telling jokes. He was archdeling.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1970">32:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1970" data-t="1970">Oh, absolutely. I mean, everybody should go look up</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1974" data-t="1974">the, like, Bill Hicks' last appearance on Letterman. Like, that that goes around YouTube.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1979" data-t="1979">That's incredible. And they didn't air it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1982" data-t="1982">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1983" data-t="1983">he's just dropping just dropping two truth bombs like fucking crazy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1987" data-t="1987">And then he and he died. So</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1989">33:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1989" data-t="1989">yeah. So then who would you put on the the Mount Rushmore for Bitcoin podcasters? I mean, it's probably gonna be the same list. I mean, honestly, I I you know what?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1998" data-t="1998">Alright. Let me get into this. Let me get into it for a second. The second you put a fucking Bitcoin podcaster on a Mount Rushmore, that's like putting them on trading cards.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2006" data-t="2006">Alright? That's a great idea. Yeah. It just be but, like, they become they'll you know, they that's for PodCon, man. Matt Rushmore</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2016" data-t="2016">is for fucking PodCon.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2018">33:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2018" data-t="2018">Fuck that shit. Wait a minute about that, Richard. You've been getting into comedy lately. You've been getting more into it recently. Yeah. I just studied</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2025">33:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2025" data-t="2025">a little bit for this episode in anticipation because I didn't know anything about comedy before.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2032">33:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2032" data-t="2032">Well, we knew that, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2034" data-t="2034">but what was your journey like? My my journey in comedy?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2037" data-t="2037">What do you mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That transformation. Like, what made you decide to get into it?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2043">34:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2043" data-t="2043">Well, I mean, honestly, it's because fundamentals, like, told me that comedy was pretty cool, like four or five beats you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2049" data-t="2049">I think that was my intro into it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2052" data-t="2052">I didn't understand it. I would say it was the intellectual silk group. Like, that was my introduction.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2059" data-t="2059">You get a lot of access</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2061" data-t="2061">to interesting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2062" data-t="2062">ideas and resources</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2064">34:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2064" data-t="2064">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2065" data-t="2065">are not here. Because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2066" data-t="2066">in my background</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2068" data-t="2068">in the traditional</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2070" data-t="2070">journalist world,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2072" data-t="2072">You're</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2073">34:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2073" data-t="2073">not supposed to do what's funny.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2076" data-t="2076">Like humor is the opposite</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2079" data-t="2079">of credentialed journalism</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2081" data-t="2081">in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2082" data-t="2082">many ways.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2083" data-t="2083">What you're taught to do in journalism school is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2086">34:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2086" data-t="2086">essentially take you know, all the information from your CIA handlers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2091" data-t="2091">and just like formulate it into</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2093" data-t="2093">a,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2095">34:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2095" data-t="2095">an agenda. Are you saying, wait, are you saying that credential journalism is basically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2100" data-t="2100">HR?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2101" data-t="2101">As the opposite of comedy? Pretty much.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2105">35:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2105" data-t="2105">Well, I mean, and this is like, you know, why I think the bugle So I wanted to circle back to, you know, something Stephen Mufka said. So I asked him last week,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2114" data-t="2114">you know, if he thought Lynn Alden was hot,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2116" data-t="2116">and he would not answer it. You know? And his reason was because that would not be HR compliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2122" data-t="2122">at the company that he worked for. I was really proud of you proud of you for asking that question, by the way. Well, it it these are the types of important questions that people need to understand.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2131" data-t="2131">And, like, it really pisses me off that, you know, PodConf</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2138" data-t="2138">has, like, taken so much control over these companies via the HR departments</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2143">35:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2143" data-t="2143">where you cannot talk about whether your coworkers are hot or not. Because, like, you know, if I'm working out at the gym, I'm smoking a bunch of cigarettes, I'm I'm rolling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2151" data-t="2151">in with IT, and my biceps are a little bit bigger than last week,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2156" data-t="2156">You know, I want I want people to say things to me about it. Like, hey, man. Your biceps are looking good. Or, like, hey. You know, you just seem you seem, like, a little bit more masculine. You know, things like that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2168" data-t="2168">But you go Right. You you know, you you go to a woman like, you know, Lynn Alden or or Kaylee or whoever,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2174" data-t="2174">and you tell them that they're hot looking hot. Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2178" data-t="2178">that's considered incredibly offensive. And I think it's a double standard that doesn't make sense because, like, you know, why why do we hire Kaylee</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2185">36:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2185" data-t="2185">as an employee? Why why do, you know, these companies have have Lynn Alden on their board of directors or whatever? It's because they're fucking hot. Like, that's that's that's the the value that they bring</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2197" data-t="2197">to the industry, you know, and, like, to compliment them on it is complimenting their skill sets. You know? Because, like, Haley works on being a smoking hot ape. It's not like she just, like, woke like, she she could be, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2211" data-t="2211">an eight, but she, like, goes to the gym every day, and that's why she's a 10. But she smokes cigarettes. She puts in the proof of work. And, like, the these HR departments are just,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2221">37:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2221" data-t="2221">you know, off Right. And so made. You're underselling the, you know, their other skills, but the fact is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2227" data-t="2227">they are they are hot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2229" data-t="2229">They're also very good at what they do and they're very skilled. Right? But, though, you're not you're allowed to say they're skilled. You're allowed to say they're brilliant. You're not allowed to say they're hot. It's fucked up. If you go back to, like, if you watch Mad Men, you go back to the nineteen fifties, nineteen sixties, and the and the landing offices there, they were very</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2247">37:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2247" data-t="2247">conservatively dressed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2250" data-t="2250">All of their bosses, all the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2252" data-t="2252">executives, the leadership, the management, and then they were very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2256" data-t="2256">they they called them darling, they called them sweetheart, they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2259" data-t="2259">told how dirty they looked and then that stopped being</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2262" data-t="2262">the norm. And now</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2264">37:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2264" data-t="2264">they're dressing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2266" data-t="2266">more and more,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2267" data-t="2267">revealing, and they're trying to get that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2270" data-t="2270">that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2271" data-t="2271">acknowledgement for the proof of work that they've done to look hot, and nobody's allowed to say it anymore. And it's creating a lot of frustration in the workplace for both sides.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2279">37:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2279" data-t="2279">Well, the the thing the thing that people don't understand is, like, part of what makes these women,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2284" data-t="2284">part of what makes Lyn Alden so effective is that she's so off.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2289" data-t="2289">Like, it's part of her skill it's part of her skill set. Like, and and to argue with that is just absolutely ridiculous to me. So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2297" data-t="2297">you know, you should be able to tell women in the workplace, like, hey, you're looking sexy today. Like, I would tell Lynne</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2303" data-t="2303">if she did that all the time if she came in the view. If I point to something that's objectively beautiful</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2308">38:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2308" data-t="2308">and I say, That is beautiful.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2310" data-t="2310">And I ask you, Do you think that that is beautiful? And they can say yes or no,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2315" data-t="2315">they might be compromised. If you can't recognize objective beauty,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2320" data-t="2320">I just I don't I it it makes me wonder</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2323" data-t="2323">if you can recognize</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2324" data-t="2324">objective beauty in other forms like code,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2328">38:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2328" data-t="2328">like thermodynamics.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2330" data-t="2330">If you can't if you can't recognize the most the easiest one to spot,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2334" data-t="2334">can you recognize it when it's a little harder to notice?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2338">38:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2338" data-t="2338">Yeah. I mean, like, if you if you want more women in the Bitcoin industry,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2343" data-t="2343">if if that's something that you claim to want, then you should be champion</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2347" data-t="2347">men's right to tell women in the workspace that they're hot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2352" data-t="2352">Like, that's what'll bring</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2355" data-t="2355">because women go and they work in all these other places that suck.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2359" data-t="2359">And they don't get the reinforcement that they want.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2362">39:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2362" data-t="2362">And coming and working in the Bitcoin industry, they should, you know, people should operate on the Bitcoin standard.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2369">39:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2369" data-t="2369">There's a conspiracy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2370" data-t="2370">theory that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2371" data-t="2371">Patrice O'Neil died, like, right after</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2374" data-t="2374">his famous</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2375" data-t="2375">bit about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2376" data-t="2376">essentially suggesting there should be a day called harassment day where he you should be allowed to find out if a girl wants to fuck you.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2384">39:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2384" data-t="2384">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2385" data-t="2385">after that special aired he died months later. Yeah,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2390">39:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2390" data-t="2390">If if you were allowed to be a simp at war,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2393" data-t="2393">people like Mars</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2395" data-t="2395">would have a job, and they wouldn't just be at home on spaces all day</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2399" data-t="2399">because they are no HR company will no HR department will ever sign off on hiring Mars</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2406" data-t="2406">because of this, because of the stupid antiquated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2411" data-t="2411">inefficient rule. And now he's on spaces all day and there's a lot of people on spaces all day where if they could just be themselves and they could just</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2421">40:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2421" data-t="2421">recognize a spade for a spade</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2423" data-t="2423">in the workplace without getting in trouble.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2425" data-t="2425">You know, they it's popping up the spaces industry.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2428">40:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2428" data-t="2428">The girls used to be strong and could fend for themselves.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2431" data-t="2431">And I don't know if that's I don't know how much that's the case anymore on average because you've now created all these laws that now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2439" data-t="2439">restrict men's instinct.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2441" data-t="2441">They used to be, you know, if you didn't want</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2444" data-t="2444">to the advance, you'd be you'd tell a guy to go fuck himself.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2448" data-t="2448">Right? Right. And if you were hot enough, like, you'd you most guys would be too scared to even</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2453">40:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2453" data-t="2453">do it to begin. And this is this is why these mega corporations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2457" data-t="2457">like Google,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2458" data-t="2458">Microsoft,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2459" data-t="2459">Apple,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2460" data-t="2460">they're starting to struggle. They're starting to see diminishing returns. They're starting to see their stock values kind of peak.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2468" data-t="2468">It's because there's they need a lot of</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2472">41:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2472" data-t="2472">of testosterone in the workplace to drive it forward, but they're driving it all out. They're trying they're trying to create little NPRs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2479" data-t="2479">and that is that is affecting stock market crisis. That's affecting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2483" data-t="2483">that's affecting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2485" data-t="2485">TradFi and NormiNG.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2487">41:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2487" data-t="2487">Well, I mean, this is why they're attacking the NVIDIA stock right now. You know, people are like going after it super hard because the CEO was signing their girls tits, you know, which is like a totally appropriate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2498" data-t="2498">activity.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2499" data-t="2499">But, like, that's offensive to, like, you know, this, like it's kinda like PodCon has control of, like, the larger world too and the way that these forces work.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2509" data-t="2509">But to go back go back to your earlier question of, like, what do I think about comedy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2513" data-t="2513">I found comedy to be really interesting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2516" data-t="2516">because it's a lot like journalism</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2518">41:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2518" data-t="2518">in the sense of, like, you know, you're, like, hovering and trying to communicate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2522" data-t="2522">something to somebody.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2524" data-t="2524">You you have a message that you're trying to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2528" data-t="2528">put forward, and it's a little bit different,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2531" data-t="2531">you know, than the way that we do it because the way we do it, it's not funny. You know, we're we're just spinning the cold hard facts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2538" data-t="2538">but you can add some humor to the cold hard facts and make it a little bit more, like, relevant or palatable for people.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2544">42:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2544" data-t="2544">Like a dot does, yeah. It's hard to convey, like, it's hard to convey. Right. And it's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2551">42:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2551" data-t="2551">comedy kind of is the spirit</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2553" data-t="2553">of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2554" data-t="2554">evolution and and change in culture.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2557" data-t="2557">Really see can be, I guess it isn't always the case.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2561" data-t="2561">So with that in mind, and he's starting to see more comedy coming into this space,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2566" data-t="2566">where do you fundamentals</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2568">42:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2568" data-t="2568">see, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2570" data-t="2570">things going</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2571" data-t="2571">culturally</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2571">in the next few years? At least the next cycle. Because I think the last cycle</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2576" data-t="2576">was a busy, there's a lot of anti comedy, a lot of anti satire,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2580" data-t="2580">everything was taken so seriously.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2582">43:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2582" data-t="2582">If he joked about it, it was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2585" data-t="2585">considered in bad taste, but I think that is changing. Do you agree?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2589">43:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2589" data-t="2589">I absolutely agree. I think so I think it follows this trend of, you know, big</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2595" data-t="2595">Shane Gillis was an up and coming comedian,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2599" data-t="2599">with really brilliant talent. I mean, he got SNL</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2602" data-t="2602">Saturday Night Live after I mean, he was only doing stand up for like five or six years. And he was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2607" data-t="2607">really good. That's very unusual for somebody to be so good and so comfortable.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2611" data-t="2611">And then he gets canceled and everybody thinks I mean, comedy really was at a low point and then he gets himself</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2619">43:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2619" data-t="2619">uncanceled.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2620" data-t="2620">Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2621" data-t="2621">And now we see this wave,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2623" data-t="2623">this wave of comedy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2625" data-t="2625">And even you start seeing it in the Bitcoin space with, David Lucas roasting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2630" data-t="2630">Marty Bent and Matt O'Dell.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2632">43:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2632" data-t="2632">And</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2632">showing that contrast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2634" data-t="2634">of comedy IQs there. But, I honestly I like it. I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2639" data-t="2639">look at you guys.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2641" data-t="2641">I see you guys definitely as having like the potential like imagine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2646" data-t="2646">like Richard Grieser showing up at a comedy club and doing his set and being himself and everybody there being like what the fuck? What the fuck is this?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2656">44:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2656" data-t="2656">It's like, I I I think about it. I dream about it, and I think it's I just, like, I you know, I'd love to imagine that. Well,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2664">44:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2664" data-t="2664">yeah. I kinda prepared some,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2668" data-t="2668">some comedy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2669" data-t="2669">I I I wrote some jokes that I think would be,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2673" data-t="2673">kinda funny. Do do you prepare anything, Rod, just out of curiosity?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2678">44:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2678" data-t="2678">I prepared,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2679" data-t="2679">high level</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2681" data-t="2681">conversations for us to have, but not specific,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2685">44:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2685" data-t="2685">specific material. I'm actually I'm actually a little bit nervous about,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2690" data-t="2690">sharing my my colony here.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2693" data-t="2693">But,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2695">44:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2695" data-t="2695">I I I think it's That's natural. That's very natural for a, first timer.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2700">44:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2700" data-t="2700">I knew you said it was very</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2702">45:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2702" data-t="2702">So fundamentals,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2705" data-t="2705">I want I want to understand. So, like, I understand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2708" data-t="2708">how you become a journalist.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2711" data-t="2711">So the path to becoming a journalist</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2713" data-t="2713">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2714" data-t="2714">you go to a university and you get a four year degree. You get a bachelor's in journalism.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2719">45:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2719" data-t="2719">And then you become a credentialed journalist after you get your diploma.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2726" data-t="2726">What's the credentialing process for becoming a comedian?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2729" data-t="2729">What does that look like?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2731">45:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2731" data-t="2731">In my experience,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2733" data-t="2733">doing open mics in Philadelphia,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2735" data-t="2735">it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2736" data-t="2736">going to the University of Pennsylvania, getting a four year degree,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2741" data-t="2741">graduating with $250,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2743" data-t="2743">of debt and working at Wawa</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2746">45:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2746" data-t="2746">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2748" data-t="2748">realizing that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2749" data-t="2749">you are totally fucked</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2752" data-t="2752">and deciding to go do stand up. And that's that's the typical arc of, successful comedian these days. Does</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2760">45:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2760" data-t="2760">it matter though which,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2761" data-t="2761">four year degree you get or not really?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2765">46:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2765" data-t="2765">I don't think so. In fact,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2768" data-t="2768">you know, Shane Gillis is a college graduate, very famously, right? But he bounced around</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2773" data-t="2773">He started</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2775" data-t="2775">out at the army</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2777" data-t="2777">and then he,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2779" data-t="2779">ended up at Westchester University right outside Philadelphia. I don't think it matters where you go. Do you think As long as you know.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2786">46:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2786" data-t="2786">Do you think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2787" data-t="2787">that having so similarly,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2789" data-t="2789">a lot of comedians</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2790" data-t="2790">had</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2792" data-t="2792">difficult pasts, difficult upbringings.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2795" data-t="2795">Do you think that that plays a role, plays a in in developing humor?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2800">46:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2800" data-t="2800">Yeah. Definitely. See, here's the thing. Right? You have to go to a four year college to get into like a good click so that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2807" data-t="2807">you know, when you do go to open mics, you have a couple people, you know, you're not there just by yourself.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2813" data-t="2813">You know, so you got to get into a good click. Okay? This is my this is my bitter my bitter failure self talking.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2821" data-t="2821">But, you know, once you're there, the way you distinguish yourself,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2826" data-t="2826">okay, is by actually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2828" data-t="2828">you you at some point, you have to show up you do have to show up and be funny.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2833">47:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2833" data-t="2833">A lot of guys just get away with being the funny guy in their friend group, you know, but they don't really make it. You know, there's a guy there's a guy that I that I I remember from the Philly open mic scene who,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2846" data-t="2846">he was just like one of those he just had a good personality but he wasn't funny.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2850" data-t="2850">And now he's like he's like just hosting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2852" data-t="2852">roast battles</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2853" data-t="2853">locally in the area and he gave up,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2856" data-t="2856">he gave up his whole</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2857">47:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2857" data-t="2857">any career potential to do comedy. He went all in but he just didn't make it. Whereas like, there's like 20 guys</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2864" data-t="2864">that got,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2865" data-t="2865">Shane took under his wing, and they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2869" data-t="2869">making millions of dollars.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2871" data-t="2871">So like, it's an interesting dichotomy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2873" data-t="2873">in the Philly</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2875">47:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2875" data-t="2875">scene of the guys that made it and the guys that didn't. And the guys that didn't really were guys that didn't stand up for Shane when he got canceled.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2881" data-t="2881">So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2882" data-t="2882">I would say you got to be funny and you got to be loyal to the guy that makes it. Do you draw any parallels between success there</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2889">48:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2889" data-t="2889">and success</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2891" data-t="2891">as a Bitcoin podcaster?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2892">48:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2892" data-t="2892">Yes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2893" data-t="2893">The one parallel would be that you just have like, no matter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2898" data-t="2898">the one parallel is that everybody says, there's too many comedians and we don't need anymore. And just like they say, we don't need any more Bitcoin podcasters.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2906" data-t="2906">So you've got to be psychotically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2909" data-t="2909">determined</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2910" data-t="2910">and you just have to do it. You have to wanna do it. You have to keep going no matter what the world the world's gonna tell you you suck and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2917">48:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2917" data-t="2917">no one's listening to you.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2919">48:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2919" data-t="2919">I think I think that the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2921" data-t="2921">Tell me what you think about React's to what I'm about to say. Well, I think that if you have aspirations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2927" data-t="2927">to do one or the other,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2929" data-t="2929">they start off on Nostra</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2931" data-t="2931">because you don't have to have any good content on there. People will follow you if you set up their content.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2935" data-t="2935">And then if you are, if you have good enough posts, funny enough posts, interesting enough posts that you start to get an intention there and a following there, you can move up to Twitter or X.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2945">49:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2945" data-t="2945">And if you start to do well enough there, then you can launch your own</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2949" data-t="2949">podcast. You can launch your own stand up content.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2954" data-t="2954">But I think you you wanna, like, test your content first on some of these lower platforms</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2960" data-t="2960">and and and make sure that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2962" data-t="2962">you've got something that is catching people's attention.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2965">49:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2965" data-t="2965">Absolutely. And I used to hear people talk about a strategy where they don't actually move like, what you're talking moving to x is like moving to New York or moving to LA. Like, that's when, like, you start your career.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2977" data-t="2977">Right. And a lot of people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2979" data-t="2979">they say don't do it until</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2981" data-t="2981">you're ready.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2983" data-t="2983">Because if you tell people you've been doing stand up for fifteen years and you haven't made it, they'll look at you like you're never gonna make it in your Right. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2992">49:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2992" data-t="2992">no</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2998">49:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2998" data-t="2998">Yeah. If you kill, you have to, you can kill in Baltimore.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3002" data-t="3002">You might, you might make it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3003">50:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3003" data-t="3003">You're still probably interested. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3006" data-t="3006">But when you say</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3007" data-t="3007">the, one of the other advantages, if you go the podcast route is versus comedy versus Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3013" data-t="3013">is there's way fewer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3016" data-t="3016">funny people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3017" data-t="3017">in Bitcoin. So if you start a podcast with somebody like who's not very funny, you can shine and money kind of has that opportunity with Matt on,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3026">50:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3026" data-t="3026">on retinal recaps and such, but there's so many more examples out there. I mean, you've got optimist, he's funny,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3033" data-t="3033">Nico,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3034" data-t="3034">not so much. And so he really shines and is like, you have these examples where you can contrast yourself against your co host and really shine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3043" data-t="3043">and that's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3044" data-t="3044">or you make each other better. And that's like, that's either way you win.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3049">50:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3049" data-t="3049">That's interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3050" data-t="3050">I haven't heard that take.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3052" data-t="3052">It is true. I mean, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3055" data-t="3055">know, Marty took it to an extreme level by bringing a professional roaster on to really show the contrast between their comedy IQs.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3064">51:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3064" data-t="3064">Do you think that that was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3066" data-t="3066">dilated? Do you think that he was feeling a little bit like he was in Odell's shadow and he wanted to expose Odell?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3074">51:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3074" data-t="3074">I don't think he was nefarious against Odell. I think that when he came on, I think when he went on your guys' show,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3081">51:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3081" data-t="3081">I think he just started to really feel himself as, you know, as a funny man. That's what I heard. I heard that Marty was feeling himself on the on our show. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3091">51:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3091" data-t="3091">Well, and I'd say that you could contrast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3093" data-t="3093">you give him the same contrast between Marty and Steven Luca last week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3097" data-t="3097">Marty just demonstrated a much higher comedy IQ here than he did. And he did the same at the RHR event</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3105" data-t="3105">with David Lucas.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3107">51:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3107" data-t="3107">Interesting. Speaking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3109" data-t="3109">of Marty feeling himself, like I think all the Dennis Porter talk that we're having probably gave him a heart on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3115" data-t="3115">during the show and got him a little bit excited. You know, I don't blame him for that. It's hard to resist. Can't control that shit.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3123">52:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3123" data-t="3123">Speaking of Dennis,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3124" data-t="3124">I would be remiss if I didn't bring this up at some point.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3128" data-t="3128">And well, you probably heard me out as well this episode, but we are doing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3133" data-t="3133">a presidential</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3134" data-t="3134">debate. The presidential selection</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3136" data-t="3136">live stream</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3138">52:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3138" data-t="3138">is me and Richard, and there's anybody's willing or anybody is invited</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3142" data-t="3142">to stop in for the whole stream. Maybe just some of it reacts to the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3148" data-t="3148">retarded people we have running for president in our country this year. We'll be talking about that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3153" data-t="3153">There is rumors that Shinobi will be joining, possibly even Dennis Porter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3159" data-t="3159">No, no promises, but we're doing what we can behind the scenes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3163" data-t="3163">And and hopefully some others, I think fundamentals,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3166">52:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3166" data-t="3166">it is talked about wanting to stop in on Tuesday night. So we'll see about that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3170" data-t="3170">Fundamentals, are you are you thinking about coming and joining us? I'll definitely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3175" data-t="3175">come. Awesome.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3176" data-t="3176">So I think Yeah, go ahead.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3178">52:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3178" data-t="3178">Well, what's important to know about this live stream is that we're gonna be having a special guest at some point.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3185" data-t="3185">It's not been announced who it is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3187" data-t="3187">but there'll probably be a special guest joining us at some point on the stream.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3192">53:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3192" data-t="3192">You don't wanna miss that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3195" data-t="3195">Now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3196" data-t="3196">Yeah. To to switch gears a little bit here, we talked about this before we started recording,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3202" data-t="3202">but we talked about the topic of a fail son</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3205" data-t="3205">and I, I don't really know how to describe it other than</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3209" data-t="3209">you have</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3210">53:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3210" data-t="3210">somebody,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3211" data-t="3211">you know, the name, right? Strong men create good times</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3215" data-t="3215">and good times create weak men, weak men create</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3218" data-t="3218">bad times.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3219" data-t="3219">Well, this is a real life phenomenon where you've got somebody, a titan of industry who builds an institution, they build a company, they build a brand, they build something,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3228" data-t="3228">and then they pass it off. They pass it off to their son or their daughter</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3233">53:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3233" data-t="3233">and that person,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3234" data-t="3234">their, their offspring did not have, did not go through the trials, the tribulations, they did not have that drive. They just kind of were handed success in their lap and they fumbled back.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3245" data-t="3245">And, one of the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3247" data-t="3247">one observation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3249" data-t="3249">that I've,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3250" data-t="3250">had recently is that maybe that's what a sailor is trying to avoid. He doesn't want to have a fail son to ruin his legacy</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3256">54:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3256" data-t="3256">and squander all this Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3259" data-t="3259">But when</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3260" data-t="3260">what do you think about this phenomenon? Do you think that our country right now, our industry, everything is run or being affected by the fail sons who are running the institutions?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3273" data-t="3273">Even the CIA, I think, is probably being run by Failsons and that's probably why they're so ineffective these days. Like, what is your thoughts on that? I mean, for the most part, yeah. I mean, everyone's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3284">54:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3284" data-t="3284">pretty shitty, right? So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3286" data-t="3286">it's hard to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3288" data-t="3288">it's hard to find examples of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3291" data-t="3291">sons that are,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3293" data-t="3293">let's say,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3295" data-t="3295">you know, that are acting in a strong manner. I mean, we were talking before us thinking of who who is terrorizing us on Twitter from a son perspective. You got fucking Spencer Schiff. You got whoever</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3306">55:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3306" data-t="3306">Soros's shitty son's name is.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3309">55:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3309" data-t="3309">Elon Musk, you know, he's kind of a fail son.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3312">55:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3312" data-t="3312">He's a rich fail son. But Yeah. Now, I mean, the only place you see sons exceeding their parents is in sports.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3320" data-t="3320">Like, the NBA is, like, loaded with examples of guys that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3324" data-t="3324">exceeded their parents.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3325" data-t="3325">You know, Kobe Bryant, Steph Curry, you know, Ken Griffey Junior.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3330" data-t="3330">Yeah. I'm just saying, like, so maybe it's just, we gotta get these guys into sports. Otherwise,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3336" data-t="3336">they're fucked.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3337">55:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3337" data-t="3337">What do you think about the sons</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3340" data-t="3340">of the greatest Bitcoin podcasters? Like, do you think Peter McCormick,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3343" data-t="3343">his son, could take over the podcasting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3346" data-t="3346">empire that he's built? Or do you think that he's winding it down because he knows his son is just not based enough? Does he I didn't realize he had children.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3356" data-t="3356">He talks about his son. His son a lot. I think his son is is working with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3362" data-t="3362">that mining company in Africa right now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3364">56:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3364" data-t="3364">Oh, forget about it. The Legends of Iron? It's the one</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3368">56:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3368" data-t="3368">that Jack is is the is funding. You know, look,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3372">56:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3372" data-t="3372">the fact that we know about them, it's kind of like the Mont Rushmore thing. Right? It's like, if we know about them, Gridless. It's gridless. I think Sorry to interject. I think the sun would have a chance if they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3382" data-t="3382">I think they have a chance because of the possibility of nims.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3386" data-t="3386">So, like, you could become a nim</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3388" data-t="3388">and then Like, that's what Baron Trump did. And you can make it on your you have a chance at making it on your own. Whereas, you really don't have much of a chance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3396" data-t="3396">You know, Jerry Buss big shadow. Yeah. Jerry Buss, the great owner of the Los Angeles Lakers, you know, when he died. Look look at his daughter. She's married to Jay Moore for fuck's sake.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3406" data-t="3406">Okay? And she's ruined the fucking team and is married to a drug addict</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3411">56:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3411" data-t="3411">comic joke stealer. And, you know, it's it just gets worse and worse. But, like, she had no opportunity to say create a NIMH</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3419" data-t="3419">and make it on her own. Everybody knows who she is. So they all give her, they all give her an easy time, you know, cause they don't wanna, in her whole life, they didn't wanna upset the big man. Dude, the people actually respected.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3429">57:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3429" data-t="3429">For those who are not familiar with Jay Moore,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3432" data-t="3432">how would, what big boy podcast, or would you compare him to, to, to kinda, to kind of, to, to kind of, to kind of, to kind of, to kind of, to kind of, to kind of, to kind of, to kind of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3446" data-t="3446">add</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3449" data-t="3449">a run there. He was in, Jerry McGuire. He was in some good movies. He was in some,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3454" data-t="3454">he had some good stuff, but, Enormous talent. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3457" data-t="3457">And he, he swaddered</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3459">57:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3459" data-t="3459">it. Maybe more like Joe Palpliano, Anthony Palpliano's brother who does a lot of sports,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3464" data-t="3464">commendation.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3466">57:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3466" data-t="3466">Yeah. I mean, and Jay Moore was actually a pretty notable podcaster back in the day.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3471" data-t="3471">Interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3472" data-t="3472">He had a podcast called More Stories, and it was he had a lot of great stories from his time in Saturday live and Jerry Maguire and all of that stuff. And then, you know, he just kind of circled the drain at some point. I mean, he put, you know, he had a Burt Kreischer, you know, they they have a notable beef because J Moore basically stole Burt Kreischer's story about Tracy Morgan</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3492" data-t="3492">and did it in his voice. I don't know if you know about that, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3496" data-t="3496">I had a little history of comedy here. But, J. Moore, Burke, Riser, you can look it up if you want</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3501" data-t="3501">to have spend an hour on something fun. What do you think the consequences</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3505">58:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3505" data-t="3505">of this are going to be? I mean, to put this maybe in a smaller context,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3510" data-t="3510">imagine all of the progress we're making</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3514" data-t="3514">because Dennis Porter is orange billing so many people, so many politicians,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3518" data-t="3518">but eventually Dennis is going to have to retire</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3522" data-t="3522">and he's going to have to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3524" data-t="3524">leave the legacy</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3526">58:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3526" data-t="3526">to one of his sons or daughters should he ever,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3530" data-t="3530">actually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3531" data-t="3531">find a woman</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3532" data-t="3532">and get married. What if what if Dennis Porter's son is a failed son who can't orange anybody?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3537" data-t="3537">Then that mean, do we have like a lost generation,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3540" data-t="3540">multiple generations?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3542">59:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3542" data-t="3542">I, you know, so I'm gonna say something controversial.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3545" data-t="3545">I think every, even the successful people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3548" data-t="3548">become failed sons. We've seen it now. Right. And this is why you have to slay your heroes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3553" data-t="3553">Because everybody in Bitcoin who seems to become successful</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3557" data-t="3557">eventually just becomes a fucking version of a failed son.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3561" data-t="3561">Because the power of the money that the fuck you money we're very early in learning or knowing how to deal with it. And most people just lose their shit and,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3572">59:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3572" data-t="3572">they become their own version of a failed son. Interesting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3576">59:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3576" data-t="3576">That is a scary prospect.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3578" data-t="3578">How do you avoid that?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3580">59:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3580" data-t="3580">I think we have to live through it and have enough examples. It's kinda like the eighties with cocaine, you know, we just had to watch everyone fucking go through it to try to We had to go through it ourselves too. Yeah. Figure it out. Yeah. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3593">59:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3593" data-t="3593">Strong podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3595" data-t="3595">make for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3597" data-t="3597">strong bull markets.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3600" data-t="3600">And then they have weak podcasts and it creates</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3603" data-t="3603">weak bull markets and bear markets.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3606">1:00:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3606" data-t="3606">And bear markets create strong podcasters. As long as the as long as, like, the VCs and the fiat money is available in there, we're gonna we're gonna continue</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3616" data-t="3616">with that cycle, I think. I I don't think we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3620" data-t="3620">I don't think we really,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3622" data-t="3622">get through this. I don't think we realized a lot of this dream until that is solved. It's pretty interesting to</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3628">1:00:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3628" data-t="3628">I mean, I I I think a lot of these problems get get resolved once, once prod costs gets eliminated.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3635" data-t="3635">Yeah. Well, I think a lot of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3637" data-t="3637">it a lot of it just comes down to incentives. You know? Like, we like, somebody has to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3643" data-t="3643">to essentially create a different</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3646" data-t="3646">standard</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3647" data-t="3647">that people can look to.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3650">1:00:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3650" data-t="3650">I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3652" data-t="3652">I have a contrarian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3653" data-t="3653">take on this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3655" data-t="3655">Yep. The United States</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3657" data-t="3657">was at its</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3658" data-t="3658">peak,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3659">1:00:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3659" data-t="3659">was at its peak strength, peak</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3661" data-t="3661">cultural relevance, peak everything,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3664" data-t="3664">or at least it's spending most of its time at the top or near the top</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3670" data-t="3670">of almost every category when we were basically going head to head with the Soviet Union, and then the Soviet Union collapsed. And we had</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3678" data-t="3678">kind of a shitter eye for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3680" data-t="3680">about a decade,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3682">1:01:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3682" data-t="3682">but everything has followed up higher in the absence of a strong</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3687" data-t="3687">nemesis.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3688" data-t="3688">And I'm worried that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3690" data-t="3690">if Podkop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3691" data-t="3691">dissolves like the cellular union, if if if the leadership that Podkop is currently like their Gorbachev</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3698" data-t="3698">and and they fall apart, we'll have a great super cycle.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3703">1:01:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3703" data-t="3703">NGU</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3704" data-t="3704">will far surpass anything, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3707" data-t="3707">then it's up to us to have that will or that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3712" data-t="3712">competition</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3713" data-t="3713">to drive us to keep innovating.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3716" data-t="3716">Do you worry</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3718">1:01:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3718" data-t="3718">does anybody worry? But the with the absence of a pod cop or the absence of a CIA,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3724" data-t="3724">does</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3725" data-t="3725">the this Bitcoin</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3727">1:02:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3727" data-t="3727">atrophy? I think we need better enemies.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3730" data-t="3730">So I'm not worried that we won't have enemies. I just think we need</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3734" data-t="3734">to vanquish these weak ones.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3737" data-t="3737">And then, you know, I mean, I remember, like, my childhood was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3742" data-t="3742">really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3744" data-t="3744">consumed with Russia being the enemy. I remember what that was like, and I remember when Some people are still like that. Yeah. Remember when it went away thinking, wow, everything's gonna be great now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3752">1:02:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3752" data-t="3752">Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3753" data-t="3753">And then, you know, it's it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3756" data-t="3756">somebody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3757" data-t="3757">the gap the the gap will always be filled, and I think we just need to keep keep leveling up the enemy who our enemies are.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3764">1:02:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3764" data-t="3764">We'll find them. How do we level them up to make ourselves stronger? I mean, that isn't that what what Corey Clipston was doing, making Bitcoin stronger with Tether and with dollars</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3773" data-t="3773">is leveling up the enemy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3775" data-t="3775">If we use Bitcoin to make the dollar stronger, we're making our enemies stronger.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3780" data-t="3780">May yeah. Maybe that's maybe that's what we need to do. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3783">1:03:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3783" data-t="3783">But, unfortunately,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3785" data-t="3785">Vicky couldn't sustain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3786" data-t="3786">that company, and they had flamed out a little bit. So now they're not they're not allowed to do that anymore really. They're they're close to the sun. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3795">1:03:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3795" data-t="3795">They're too close to the tether printers. There's also the feature to consider, which is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3800" data-t="3800">that you just retired your citadel. You You know what I mean? Like, the future that I want post PodCon, post CIA,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3809" data-t="3809">is just to become a humble tobacco farmer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3812" data-t="3812">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3813" data-t="3813">essentially, like, sell my</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3816" data-t="3816">intellectual Silk Road cigarettes</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3819">1:03:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3819" data-t="3819">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3820" data-t="3820">just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3821" data-t="3821">beat on my typewriter and write fun stories that I think are interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3826" data-t="3826">That's the future. I don't want to be out there on the front lines covering the news</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3830" data-t="3830">in the way that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3832" data-t="3832">I am right now. Like, I I only stepped into this because nobody else was. You know? And I felt like it was really important to. But, like, there really is the reality, you know, where maybe you just, like, write, like, a little, you</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3844">1:04:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3844" data-t="3844">know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3845" data-t="3845">Citadel newsletter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3846" data-t="3846">you know, on a weekly basis, and it gets dropped on people's front porch. And that that that's, like, the extent of my journalistic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3853" data-t="3853">endeavors where, you know, I essentially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3856" data-t="3856">explain how the members of the Citadel</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3858" data-t="3858">are meeting together to build a road without, you know, any government involvement.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3862">1:04:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3862" data-t="3862">It doesn't have to be, like, exciting stories, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3866" data-t="3866">you know, all all the various stuff that, you know, we've been covering. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3871" data-t="3871">like, I I dream for a day where there's not a fight. You know what I mean? You'll get a day.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3876">1:04:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3876" data-t="3876">I don't know. Yeah. A day.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3878" data-t="3878">Well, every everybody gets their fifteen minutes, and we will get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3882" data-t="3882">our our day</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3884" data-t="3884">of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3885" data-t="3885">I don't know if I everybody will acknowledge</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3887" data-t="3887">the victory</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3888">1:04:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3888" data-t="3888">that Bitcoin has already won, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3891" data-t="3891">we'll get a day to to kind of relax.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3895" data-t="3895">I don't know if it'll be more than a day, literally, but we'll get it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3899">1:04:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3899" data-t="3899">Ideally, you wanna fight on your own terms or as much on your own terms as possible.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3904">1:05:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3904" data-t="3904">Right. Like George Bush said. Yeah. Right. So instead of</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3907">1:05:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3907" data-t="3907">doing, you know, doing the journalism</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3910" data-t="3910">that you guys do,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3911" data-t="3911">it might transform. Then you might just do your thing as a standup comedian. And that would maybe replace the journalism and it would be more on your terms. Maybe like the holy,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3923">1:05:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3923" data-t="3923">the holy trinity,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3925" data-t="3925">the podcaster, the comedian, the journalist,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3929" data-t="3929">But it's all one person. It's all one force.</span></span></p> +