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diff --git a/wiki/transcripts/chain-splits-and-jewish-lawyers-bugle-weekly-episode-82.md b/wiki/transcripts/chain-splits-and-jewish-lawyers-bugle-weekly-episode-82.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..da8db3b1 @@ -0,0 +1,625 @@ +--- +title: "Transcript: Chain Splits and Jewish Lawyers | Bugle Weekly Episode 82" +type: transcript +episode: chain-splits-and-jewish-lawyers-bugle-weekly-episode-82 +generated: true +date: 2025-10-27 +audio: "https://feeds.fountain.fm/R8scBF2Wiykm0YVldsHQ/items/Ijo49D40GCStfAKirVvL/files/AUDIO---DEFAULT---91ecc050-95a3-4482-99cf-1d43334f90a1.mp3" +duration: "1:24:31" +sources: + - raw/episodes/chain-splits-and-jewish-lawyers-bugle-weekly-episode-82/bundle.json +--- + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-0">0:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-0" data-t="0">Hello pioneers, this is your favorite Jewish lawyer, Phil Moore Katz.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4" data-t="4">Unfortunately, once again I feel that I must respond to the hysteria being drummed up by individuals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-10" data-t="10">screaming fire in a crowded theater.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-13" data-t="13">Some individuals are suggesting that Bitcoin users must implement a soft fork</span> <span class="cue" id="t-18" data-t="18">or else they are creating legal liabilities</span> <span class="cue" id="t-20" data-t="20">for themselves</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-22">0:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-22" data-t="22">that could create disruptions either for them or for Bitcoin as a whole.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-27" data-t="27">They are framing the conversation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-29" data-t="29">that unless Bitcoin users and developers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-32" data-t="32">preemptively</span> <span class="cue" id="t-33" data-t="33">comply with the state, the state will attack users. They are doing this by attempting to frame the narrative so that the state could attempt to coerce</span> <span class="cue" id="t-41" data-t="41">mining pools, miners, node operators</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-44">0:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-44" data-t="44">and individuals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-45" data-t="45">interacting with Bitcoin in general.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-47" data-t="47">The narratives are being spread far and wide as conferences</span> <span class="cue" id="t-51" data-t="51">are giving these individuals platforms.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-53" data-t="53">Because as we all know, Plebslop sells.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-56" data-t="56">Using threats of state violence as a mechanism</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-59">0:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-59" data-t="59">to attempt to enforce your ambitions around Bitcoin development is an incredibly dangerous precedent to set. I'm here to remind people that if individuals want to live by the sword of wielding the pedophilic ruling class, they may themselves die by the sword. It is clear that we need a reframing of the situation at hand. There is a group of individuals shouting from the rooftops that Bitcoin will die, that the state will prosecute node operators for archiving inscribed CSAM on the blockchain. And that as a result, individuals must support Luke Junior's Plebslop soft fork proposal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-91" data-t="91">As we all know, many of the most powerful individuals in government and industry</span> <span class="cue" id="t-95" data-t="95">are on the Epstein client list. They do not care about exploitative material. Instead, their primary focus</span> <span class="cue" id="t-101" data-t="101">is on limiting individuals'</span> <span class="cue" id="t-103" data-t="103">ability to express themselves or earn</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-106">1:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-106" data-t="106">without first asking for permission.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-108" data-t="108">Bitcoin is a permissionless system and adjusting how it works based on imaginary fantasies of what the state may do is ludicrous.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-114" data-t="114">What is threatening to the state is not an incredibly small amount of inscribed pictures,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-119" data-t="119">but instead the ability for individuals to broadcast transactions that would be deemed non compliant by the state.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-126" data-t="126">The argument for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-128" data-t="128">filters or else using an edge case that has not been proven to be a pervasive problem is akin to arguing for regular citizens</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-136">2:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-136" data-t="136">having to use digital IDs to access the Internet.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-139" data-t="139">The danger here to the state is not pictures or arbitrary data, but the ability for individuals to transact without permission.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-147" data-t="147">The social attitude of accepting the jurisdiction of the state in any regards to how an individual develops on Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-154" data-t="154">operates a node, or broadcasts a transaction</span> <span class="cue" id="t-157" data-t="157">is one that threatens the very nature of Bitcoin itself.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-160" data-t="160">Threatening Bitcoin through hysterics,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-163">2:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-163" data-t="163">using weaponized plebslop, and threatening the use of coercion in itself</span> <span class="cue" id="t-167" data-t="167">is already immoral.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-169" data-t="169">But once again I want to remind you that it may be illegal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-172" data-t="172">And whether you like it or not, bitcoin has become a part of many governments' national security policy by being in their strategic reserves.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-180" data-t="180">It has become that despite and because of its noncompliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-185" data-t="185">tendencies.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-186">3:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-186" data-t="186">Its value has grown because individuals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-189" data-t="189">all over the globe have adopted it because of the failings of government</span> <span class="cue" id="t-193" data-t="193">money. To try and change its non compliant nature through using hysterical exaggerations and edge cases</span> <span class="cue" id="t-199" data-t="199">is incredibly bad for game theory. In many countries it could actually be seen as an act of sabotage and treason which could be punishable by death. I want to encourage individuals to think a bit more before they relay harmful plebslop that is not covered by the First Amendment as well. Ask individuals shouting fire if they really wanna continue living by the sword.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-218" data-t="218">Either way, I find this topic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-221" data-t="221">as in any legal quagmire, the Jewish lawyer always wins.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-226">3:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-226" data-t="226">If you would like any other legal questions answered, you can reach out to me at the Jewish law firm Katz and Goldberg, where you can purchase my services for 5,000 USDT per hour. I hope you have a good day and enjoy the podcast.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-238">3:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-238" data-t="238">It's finally here folks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-243" data-t="243">The Pled activated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-245" data-t="245">Slop Fork</span> <span class="cue" id="t-247" data-t="247">pull request has officially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-251" data-t="251">been given a, you know, a bit, a Bitcoin improvement</span> <span class="cue" id="t-255" data-t="255">proposal.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-256">4:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-256" data-t="256">Number four four four,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-259" data-t="259">the reduced</span> <span class="cue" id="t-260" data-t="260">data</span> <span class="cue" id="t-261" data-t="261">temporary</span> <span class="cue" id="t-262" data-t="262">soft fork. It was opened by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-264" data-t="264">Dathanamanom.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-266">4:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-266" data-t="266">I don't know how to pronounce it. You can see it, it's in the BITS pull request in the Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-273" data-t="273">core</span> <span class="cue" id="t-275" data-t="275">GitHub repo under the, under the BITS</span> <span class="cue" id="t-279" data-t="279">projects. This is due to Bitcoin Core d 30 gaining in popularity. It has become necessary</span> <span class="cue" id="t-285" data-t="285">to move forward on Luke Junior's ML proposal limit temporarily limit arbitrary data at the consensus level,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-292" data-t="292">which so far has three weeks with no objections.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-295">4:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-295" data-t="295">Implementation for the proactive deployment is under construction while the reactive deployment feature complete but lacks tests.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-303" data-t="303">And this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-305" data-t="305">this gets a 103</span> <span class="cue" id="t-306" data-t="306">comments already.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-309" data-t="309">It was opened just two days ago.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-312" data-t="312">And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-313">5:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-313" data-t="313">right now,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-315" data-t="315">the most recent comment is from yours truly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-319" data-t="319">Where I called it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-321" data-t="321">you know, what it is, it's Plump slop. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-324" data-t="324">right now,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-326" data-t="326">we</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-327">5:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-327" data-t="327">are in a pleb slop.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-332" data-t="332">Monsoon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-333" data-t="333">is everywhere.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-335" data-t="335">I'm trying to help people realize you can't fight the plebslaw. You can only serve it. If you go out into the ocean, you try to fight the waves, you will turn out. If you try to fight the plebslaw, you will turn out.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-347" data-t="347">And, I mean, listen. It it boils down to this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-350" data-t="350">It's gonna take more than plebslaw</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-353">5:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-353" data-t="353">to reach rough consensus</span> <span class="cue" id="t-354" data-t="354">on a new path forward,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-357" data-t="357">for the project.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-359" data-t="359">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-360" data-t="360">you know, it's easy to make fun of this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-362" data-t="362">but</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-364">6:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-364" data-t="364">I think that we are, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-366" data-t="366">data has reached a point where this is getting pretty contentious, we could see a chain split, we could get a four year dot airdrop token to sell.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-377" data-t="377">What's your strategy Richard? Are you going to sell</span> <span class="cue" id="t-382" data-t="382">the, the the Club Slop token</span> <span class="cue" id="t-385" data-t="385">right away? Are you gonna wait? Are you gonna wait? Are you gonna speculate and see if the Club Slop token gains value?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-393">6:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-393" data-t="393">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-394" data-t="394">I think if they, if they launch Pub Slop token, then,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-399" data-t="399">it'll be interesting to see if you could spend it on Noster.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-402" data-t="402">Because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-403" data-t="403">theoretically, you could use it to zap people.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-406" data-t="406">And, certain podcasters</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-409">6:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-409" data-t="409">might prefer PubSoft token, but, you know, maybe maybe I'll buy some Asanoa Gold Art with PubSoft token,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-416" data-t="416">spend it while it's hot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-418" data-t="418">And, I mean, there's, like, a ton of things that you can do.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-423" data-t="423">I don't think you'll be able to buy Otis Bittmeyer coffee with it, but we'll we'll have to see. I just bought some Otis Bittmeyer coffee. Well, you won't be able to,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-432">7:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-432" data-t="432">create an ordinal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-433" data-t="433">or inscribe any data. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-436" data-t="436">if you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-437" data-t="437">let's say Kalebsalato can actually win, you know, like, the it's it's not impossible, I guess.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-443" data-t="443">Does that does that make</span> <span class="cue" id="t-445" data-t="445">the</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-447">7:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-447" data-t="447">does that make the existing ordinals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-450" data-t="450">that much more valuable? Because there can never be any new ordinals.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-454">7:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-454" data-t="454">Yeah. I mean, that's a good question. I mean, the thing that I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-457" data-t="457">am kind of, concerned about, you know, with all of this is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-462" data-t="462">what if all the platforms that we have been building</span> <span class="cue" id="t-466" data-t="466">monetization strategies around</span> <span class="cue" id="t-469" data-t="469">support ClubSlope token? We don't wanna use ClubSlope token.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-472" data-t="472">Like, if if if,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-474">7:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-474" data-t="474">the biggest,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-475" data-t="475">Noster implementations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-478" data-t="478">start doing it. I mean, you could you could that that that's the kind of the crazy thing about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-483" data-t="483">a fork right now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-486" data-t="486">is Bitcoin's integrated in all of these different platforms.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-492" data-t="492">And, theoretically, you would have to fork the platforms</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-497">8:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-497" data-t="497">to support each one unless you're gonna be doing multicurrency</span> <span class="cue" id="t-500" data-t="500">support.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-501" data-t="501">It's pretty interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-503" data-t="503">See which direction things go.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-505">8:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-505" data-t="505">Do you think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-507" data-t="507">forking Nostr</span> <span class="cue" id="t-509" data-t="509">would improve the user experience or that it would degrade</span> <span class="cue" id="t-513" data-t="513">it? You have to run multiple relays</span> <span class="cue" id="t-516" data-t="516">per, you know, for every one relay that you're currently connected to and running now?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-523" data-t="523">One for clip slap, one for Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-527">8:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-527" data-t="527">Strangely enough, I I mean, I don't think the majority</span> <span class="cue" id="t-530" data-t="530">of people that are out there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-533" data-t="533">shouting the the angry plebs that are tying themselves in knots. I don't think the majority of them are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-539" data-t="539">on these platforms.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-541" data-t="541">They they say Bitcoin is money, but I don't think they really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-545" data-t="545">embody that very often and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-548">9:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-548" data-t="548">and use Bitcoin as money. I think they're kind of a minority</span> <span class="cue" id="t-551" data-t="551">in that regard of actual Bitcoin spenders.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-554">9:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-554" data-t="554">That reminds me of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-556" data-t="556">of one of the most frustrating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-559" data-t="559">episodes of what Bitcoin did with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-562" data-t="562">when Peter McCormick was still the host. He had,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-566" data-t="566">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-567" data-t="567">probably the chief plot slot poster on all of social media right now, P Rizzo, the Bitcoin historian, and they were talking about what is Bitcoin maximalism</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-576">9:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-576" data-t="576">and P was talking about, he said, it doesn't matter what you say. It doesn't matter what you say you believe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-582" data-t="582">it is your actions that will ultimately determine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-586" data-t="586">Maximus and Bernat like are you Maximus? It's kinda like the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-589" data-t="589">you know, the in the bible it talks about like at the end in the judgment day</span> <span class="cue" id="t-594" data-t="594">that your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-596" data-t="596">your</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-597">9:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-597" data-t="597">the fire will come down</span> <span class="cue" id="t-599" data-t="599">and it will it will it will it will burn</span> <span class="cue" id="t-602" data-t="602">at like the kind of like the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-604" data-t="604">all of your your whole life all all of that will will be burning what will be left standing when the fire is out is your is your works Only your works will be left.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-614" data-t="614">And so it's it's like it really doesn't matter what you post, it doesn't matter what you say, it doesn't matter what you say you believe, it doesn't matter what you believe ultimately. It's what you do, it's what you put into practice.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-625" data-t="625">So if you you can say you believe that it is money, that you don't use it as money, like, it's it's it</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-632">10:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-632" data-t="632">your words matter very little at the end of the day.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-637">10:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-637" data-t="637">Yeah. I mean, that's one way to look at it. I I think there's a lot of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-640" data-t="640">religious people out there, like, in Christianity that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-644" data-t="644">believe that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-646" data-t="646">their salvation comes through faith and not through works</span> <span class="cue" id="t-651" data-t="651">at the end of the day.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-653" data-t="653">And and many of them use that as a cop out</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-657">10:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-657" data-t="657">in order not to have to do any works. And I I think this is, like, the case, you know, with some of these Bitcoin users, they believe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-666" data-t="666">that their faith is the only thing necessary.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-669" data-t="669">You know, they their virtue signaling can stand on on top of their faith, and they they don't need works</span> <span class="cue" id="t-675" data-t="675">to back it up, if that makes sense. Because they they have experienced innovation. They they have bought Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-682" data-t="682">on the exchange using KYC.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-684" data-t="684">They they're running a BitX.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-688">11:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-688" data-t="688">They're running a start nine node. They're not using the node for anything because they're not transacting or, you know, engaging in monetary transactions. They're they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-697" data-t="697">virtuous nodes instead of economic nodes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-700" data-t="700">and they they have their faith upon which they can stand</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-704">11:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-704" data-t="704">atop. Right. It that's a good point.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-706" data-t="706">So you're right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-712" data-t="712">Having a an account and a savings plan</span> <span class="cue" id="t-714" data-t="714">at Swan</span> <span class="cue" id="t-715" data-t="715">is all it takes for you to find salvation in the fourth pairing as an individual.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-723" data-t="723">However,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-725">12:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-725" data-t="725">in order to impact,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-727" data-t="727">to scale the network, to improve the protocol, to protect the protocol, and to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-732" data-t="732">advance it forward,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-735" data-t="735">and to reach a consensus, like, it takes more than a swan savings plan. Like, it's going to take you might have to learn to code. You may have to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-744" data-t="744">to dig deep and understand game theory a little bit better and and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-749" data-t="749">and contribute to the solutions</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-752">12:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-752" data-t="752">for some of the problems in the user experience.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-757" data-t="757">It it will take more than a swan savings plan</span> <span class="cue" id="t-760" data-t="760">to do that. But that is all it takes to save you in the fourth turning.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-766">12:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-766" data-t="766">Yeah. I mean, I don't I don't even think you need to to learn how to code at this point</span> <span class="cue" id="t-770" data-t="770">or or learn how code works because, you can just, vibe code on, Derek Ross' platform,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-776" data-t="776">Shakespeare AI.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-778">12:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-778" data-t="778">Right. Right. You can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-781" data-t="781">you can vibe code.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-783" data-t="783">I I mean, we we could scale the protocol</span> <span class="cue" id="t-787" data-t="787">for the world, for the future with Vibe code, but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-792" data-t="792">you know, it that is that is a trade off. Right? Like, the Vibe code still requires a lot of work, a lot of energy, a lot of water.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-800" data-t="800">So we may, you know</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-802">13:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-802" data-t="802">it it it'll be more contentious</span> <span class="cue" id="t-805" data-t="805">to to use to vibe code everything</span> <span class="cue" id="t-807" data-t="807">in the future as we kinda run into energy constraints and research constraints.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-812" data-t="812">And there will be, like, people who can code themselves, who may, you know, in the global south, who may need to be able to code themselves to contribute.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-820" data-t="820">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-821" data-t="821">it is getting easier,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-823">13:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-823" data-t="823">you know, at scale. Yeah. It's kinda interesting to think of, like, the future of Bitcoin development could be vibe coding based</span> <span class="cue" id="t-830" data-t="830">at the end of the day. Like, you could just take a model and train it on Luke,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-834" data-t="834">for example,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-835" data-t="835">and you have AI Luke.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-839">13:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-839" data-t="839">Do you have AI Gloria?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-841" data-t="841">Probably be the hottest model, in my opinion.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-845">14:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-845" data-t="845">I agree. Yeah. I mean, you could</span> <span class="cue" id="t-848" data-t="848">this is like, the future looks bright for Bitcoin development because, you have these AI models that are trained on these different developers and know how they think. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-857" data-t="857">you've got the the Peter Todd,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-861" data-t="861">chatbot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-862" data-t="862">You got Gloria. You got they're all they're all arguing with each other on, GitHub in the mailing list. You got Jimmy's song bot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-871" data-t="871">And that way,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-873">14:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-873" data-t="873">the developers can focus full time on vlogging</span> <span class="cue" id="t-877" data-t="877">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-879" data-t="879">podcasting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-882" data-t="882">Takes a lot of weight off their shoulders and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-886" data-t="886">just makes the the development process a lot cheaper so Jack Dorsey doesn't have to or give us much money to, developers anymore.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-895">14:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-895" data-t="895">That's true. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-897" data-t="897">if you could outsource</span> <span class="cue" id="t-899" data-t="899">the game theory,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-900" data-t="900">the the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-902" data-t="902">testing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-903" data-t="903">the coding,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-905">15:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-905" data-t="905">all of the the stuff the stuff that used to take so much time, effort, sweat, tears,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-911" data-t="911">you know, people's families were being neglected because they were coding so hard to save Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-916" data-t="916">You take that away, you extrapolate that out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-920" data-t="920">to LLM models that are trained on each of, like, if you have, like, the Mount Rushmore Of Cordes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-927" data-t="927">take Satoshi,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-929" data-t="929">Gavin,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-930">15:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-930" data-t="930">Mike Hearn,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-931" data-t="931">Peter Weil, Luke, Gloria, like, the top, the best,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-936" data-t="936">and InstaGids,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-938" data-t="938">those guys, Shinobi,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-940" data-t="940">and you train a model on them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-943" data-t="943">And then you put them to work, and they're</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-946">15:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-946" data-t="946">they're vibe coding adversarially against each other,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-949" data-t="949">trying to come up with the next good soft fork or how to get covenants to work.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-954" data-t="954">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-955" data-t="955">that frees up the individual the actual people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-959" data-t="959">to go on podcasts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-961" data-t="961">to vlog,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-962">16:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-962" data-t="962">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-963" data-t="963">house spaces with mister Hoddle in the morning,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-966" data-t="966">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-969" data-t="969">live</span> <span class="cue" id="t-970" data-t="970">live their lives and achieve,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-972" data-t="972">you know, what's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-975">16:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-975" data-t="975">the self actualization?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-976">16:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-976" data-t="976">Yeah. I mean, the future is gonna be incredibly,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-980" data-t="980">incredibly interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-982" data-t="982">Larry Lapard says that we're gonna get out of the fourth turning in 2032.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-988">16:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-988" data-t="988">So that's probably Plus, we have seven more years. Seven years? Seven more years.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-993">16:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-993" data-t="993">Seven years is pretty good short or is pretty short time. I mean, so, like, post for turning,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-998" data-t="998">when things level out a little bit,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1002" data-t="1002">do you think that we're gonna need to listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast anymore? Well, you know, this is this is a question. Like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1009">16:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1009" data-t="1009">do you need to continue to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1011" data-t="1011">learn? Do you need to continue your education,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1015" data-t="1015">after college,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1016" data-t="1016">after you get your credentials?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1018" data-t="1018">Some people believe that it's a lifelong journey that you should be doing it your entire life. You should listen to forty hours</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1025" data-t="1025">for the rest of your life.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1027">17:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1027" data-t="1027">And some people will say that it's not necessary,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1030" data-t="1030">and you will probably be able to get away with it. You'll probably be able to not to stop listening to forty hours per week in 2032</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1038" data-t="1038">and to go on to other things that you find interesting. And who knows what that will be by the I mean, by the end of the fourth turning, who knows how you will be able to spend your time? Who knows how you will want to spend your time?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1048" data-t="1048">That's an individual</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1050" data-t="1050">a decision,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1051" data-t="1051">a choice that every individual is gonna have to make for themselves.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1054">17:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1054" data-t="1054">I know that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1057" data-t="1057">based on what I understand about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1059" data-t="1059">myself and how I look at the world, I I will not con I will not stop at the end of the fourth journey. I will continue to listen forty hours per week, but I also reserve</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1069">17:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1069" data-t="1069">the right to change my mind. Yeah. It's we've seen through history that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1074" data-t="1074">people predicting the future oftentimes don't get it right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1078" data-t="1078">Like, you look at back to the future</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1080" data-t="1080">in the way that they predicted,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1084" data-t="1084">what things would look like modern day.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1087" data-t="1087">They had a bunch of goofy things that never came to fruition.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1091">18:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1091" data-t="1091">I think they were a little bit more optimistic that humanity would develop technologically faster. They they were not predicting the sinister effects of smoking bans,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1101" data-t="1101">to say the least.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1104">18:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1104" data-t="1104">Yeah. When that movie was created, you could still smoke a cigarette on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1108" data-t="1108">a commercial airliner.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1110" data-t="1110">You could still you could still be on a commercial flight</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1114" data-t="1114">smoking a cigarette</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1116" data-t="1116">in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1118" data-t="1118">in in in sexually harassing your stewardess. That was totally</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1121">18:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1121" data-t="1121">legal and acceptable back then. Things have changed like Southwest Airlines, American Airlines, Delta, they have HR departments,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1129" data-t="1129">They have smoking bans. They have all kinds of things that restrict your freedom at this point.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1135" data-t="1135">And the back of the future didn't predict that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1139">18:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1139" data-t="1139">No. Not at all.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1141" data-t="1141">Back to the future was way off.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1145" data-t="1145">Oh,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1146">19:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1146" data-t="1146">well, yeah. Terminator. I think about Terminator. Right? Like, Terminator, the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1150" data-t="1150">I remember who was talking about this recently, but the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1154" data-t="1154">in the Terminator movies like the T. I. Whatever the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1158" data-t="1158">the bots they were they were shaped like human beings they were shaped like plebs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1163" data-t="1163">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1165" data-t="1165">anybody who knows anything about robots and AI knows that like the optimal optimal</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1171">19:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1171" data-t="1171">weapon,</span> <span class="cue" data-t="1171">right, the drones, like the Ukrainian drones that are just wreaking havoc in Russia right now. They don't look angling at people, they don't look anything like plebs,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1180" data-t="1180">they are like birds almost, small birds,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1184" data-t="1184">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1185" data-t="1185">the prediction that these evil not evil necessarily, but like these super effective weapons,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1193" data-t="1193">would look like plebs</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1195">19:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1195" data-t="1195">was false and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1198" data-t="1198">I think a lot of people are expecting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1200" data-t="1200">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1202" data-t="1202">the like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1204" data-t="1204">the thing that will kill Bitcoin is going to look like a person. It's going to look like Jameson Law, it's going to look like Shinobi.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1210" data-t="1210">It's going to look like a pleb, for example,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1213">20:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1213" data-t="1213">but it's not like I think that the the the attack vector,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1216" data-t="1216">the danger,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1218" data-t="1218">not only to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1221" data-t="1221">Bitcoin, but like our us as a civilization is not gonna look like it's not gonna look like each other. It's gonna be it's gonna be more abstract than that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1230">20:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1230" data-t="1230">It's interesting. Very interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1233" data-t="1233">Yeah. I mean, should we Like a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1235" data-t="1235">conversation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1236" data-t="1236">like, there's been a lot of conversations about trying to prevent the shitcoiners from using Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1243" data-t="1243">Should we be having conversations about preventing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1247" data-t="1247">the Terminator bots from being able to use Bitcoin?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1251">20:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1251" data-t="1251">Yeah. Like, future</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1254" data-t="1254">future machines or future ideas, something from the future</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1260" data-t="1260">coming back</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1261" data-t="1261">to destroy it. Should we be more worried about a future a time traveler</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1266" data-t="1266">destroying it? Or should we be worried about,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1270" data-t="1270">as Michael Saylor</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1271">21:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1271" data-t="1271">says, you know, well funded</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1273" data-t="1273">developers with the best intentions? Because I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1278" data-t="1278">don't I think that that is is it's like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1282" data-t="1282">a it's like back to the future, the e. It's just not seeing the threat of the future clearly.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1289">21:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1289" data-t="1289">How do we prevent Skynet</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1292" data-t="1292">from sending a Terminator bot</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1295" data-t="1295">back to destroy Bitcoin?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1299">21:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1299" data-t="1299">We have to filter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1301" data-t="1301">the time machine.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1302" data-t="1302">I go like, oh, wherever the time machine is relaying</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1305" data-t="1305">Skynet bots from the future, we have to filter them out.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1310">21:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1310" data-t="1310">I mean, do do you think that Taproot could have been introduced by a SkyNet bot? Could this already have been a problem? Like, should we be looking at</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1319" data-t="1319">going</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1320" data-t="1320">into the past and preventing Taproot from happening? That's a good question.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1324">22:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1324" data-t="1324">And this and this kinda leads me to my to another point I wanted to talk about today, but I think it segues perfectly,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1332" data-t="1332">is the quantum</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1333" data-t="1333">the quantum computer threat.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1336" data-t="1336">Is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1337" data-t="1337">a quantum computer gonna come back from the future? But we don't have quantum computers today. I mean, we do, but, like, they don't have enough.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1345" data-t="1345">They're just not powerful enough to, like, break shot at t 56.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1349">22:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1349" data-t="1349">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1350" data-t="1350">analysts, experts, whatever, they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1353" data-t="1353">they claim that it's some say it's a few years away, some people say it's decades away,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1358" data-t="1358">but it's, it's a very powerful FUD right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1361" data-t="1361">But what if a quantum computer comes back from the future</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1365" data-t="1365">a hundred years from now</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1367">22:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1367" data-t="1367">in in attacks? Like, how do we stop that? I don't know.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1372">22:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1372" data-t="1372">This is the type of game theory we need to hear more about on podcast and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1378">22:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1378" data-t="1378">Exactly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1379" data-t="1379">And I was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1380" data-t="1380">I was talking to Chad GPT about it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1383" data-t="1383">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1385" data-t="1385">I told Chad GPT,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1388" data-t="1388">yeah, you quantum</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1390">23:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1390" data-t="1390">somebody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1391" data-t="1391">or some institution</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1393" data-t="1393">had the most powerful,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1396" data-t="1396">unstoppable,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1399" data-t="1399">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1400" data-t="1400">magical computer.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1402">23:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1402" data-t="1402">It</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1404" data-t="1404">would</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1405" data-t="1405">our entire</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1407" data-t="1407">concept</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1408" data-t="1408">of scarcity,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1409" data-t="1409">economics, value,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1411">23:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1411" data-t="1411">it's completely upended. Like, it doesn't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1415" data-t="1415">these they're</span> <span class="cue" data-t="1415">completely obsoleted ideas.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1418" data-t="1418">And it's it's almost like worrying about, like, being late for work during the big bang. It's like, oh, but there's is this super mad is this super magical computer gonna hack my cold card?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1429" data-t="1429">Well, I don't think it I don't I don't know that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1433" data-t="1433">it even I don't even know if a cold card matters anymore. If the if the CCP in China have the most powerful computer in the world, in the universe. I think it's important for,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1444">24:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1444" data-t="1444">I tweeted about this. We need quantum bit access.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1448" data-t="1448">This is where</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1449" data-t="1449">things need to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1451" data-t="1451">start getting developed. The the open source minor guys, the Scott and the Connell Alchemist.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1457" data-t="1457">We need to start getting them thinking about quantum bit access.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1461">24:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1461" data-t="1461">Because if we do centralized quantum computing Could you use a quantum where quantum bit access would generate enough heat to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1469" data-t="1469">to warm your home in the wintertime?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1474">24:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1474" data-t="1474">As far as I understand about quantum computers, they have to be really cold.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1479" data-t="1479">Right? So maybe the only people that can, run them are Canadians or something. People that live in these awful climates that are freezing.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1487">24:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1487" data-t="1487">That would be a huge power shift</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1490" data-t="1490">if all the quantum bit act bit access were running</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1494" data-t="1494">in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1495" data-t="1495">Saskatchewan.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1496" data-t="1496">They're running in Manitoba,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1499" data-t="1499">running in Alberta,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1501">25:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1501" data-t="1501">Calgary.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1503" data-t="1503">And to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1505" data-t="1505">from what we know about Canadian Bitcoiners, well, most of them are Feds.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1509" data-t="1509">So if the Feds, thinking in and had control over quantum bid access,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1514" data-t="1514">that could be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1515" data-t="1515">that that could be, like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1518">25:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1518" data-t="1518">that could make decentralization</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1520" data-t="1520">a threat,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1521" data-t="1521">not a virtue.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1523">25:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1523" data-t="1523">Totally. Absolutely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1525" data-t="1525">Yeah. It's pretty interesting to think about for sure. Very interesting to think about.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1530" data-t="1530">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1532" data-t="1532">there was a a bunch of events that happened this week. So there was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1539" data-t="1539">Lugano.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1541" data-t="1541">The the Tether Conference happened this week.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1546">25:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1546" data-t="1546">There's some memes that I I guess,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1550" data-t="1550">mechanic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1552" data-t="1552">had somehow got in the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1554" data-t="1554">the technical staff at the conference to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1558" data-t="1558">to put in, like, laugh and or sorry, applause instructions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1562" data-t="1562">during his speech.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1564">26:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1564" data-t="1564">Yeah. I thought that was interesting. I thought it was crazy that, like, Tethr had</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1568" data-t="1568">well, first of all, I I I talked to a source. I don't wanna name names,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1572" data-t="1572">anonymous source. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1575" data-t="1575">honestly, like, I I haven't seen proof yet, so unconfirmed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1579" data-t="1579">But I believe him so. It sounds like Tethr was bussing in plaids from all over Europe,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1585" data-t="1585">to fill the crowd and to clap when mechanic,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1590">26:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1590" data-t="1590">finished his plebslop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1591" data-t="1591">monologue</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1592" data-t="1592">at the Tether conference there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1594" data-t="1594">And people were really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1596" data-t="1596">they were really, really excited about this applause,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1599" data-t="1599">and it was posted all over the timeline</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1602">26:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1602" data-t="1602">on Friday.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1604" data-t="1604">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1605" data-t="1605">there were some people that were that were quote tweeting and saying, like, this this applause sounds like rough consensus</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1611" data-t="1611">to me.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1612" data-t="1612">And I I had a I remarked on and I said, you know, if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1616" data-t="1616">it's only rough consensus</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1619">26:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1619" data-t="1619">if the applause comes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1621" data-t="1621">from the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1622" data-t="1622">World Economic Forum region</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1624" data-t="1624">of Europe known as Switzerland.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1627" data-t="1627">Otherwise,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1628" data-t="1628">it's just sparkling club slab.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1632">27:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1632" data-t="1632">Sparkling Plebslow.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1635" data-t="1635">Interesting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1637">27:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1637" data-t="1637">But I just I I I didn't hear enough people make that connection. Like, the the Lugano conference hosted by Tether,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1643" data-t="1643">it was you know, we talk about MicroStrategy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1646" data-t="1646">headquarters being right down the street from Langley, CIA,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1650" data-t="1650">and how that's just a coincidence.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1652" data-t="1652">But Lugano plan b conference is right down the street from,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1657" data-t="1657">the dub the World Economic Forum</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1659">27:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1659" data-t="1659">yearly summit,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1661" data-t="1661">and I just didn't hear anybody really comment on that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1665">27:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1665" data-t="1665">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1666" data-t="1666">I mean, it's an interesting precedent to set in general if you're forming consensus of anything based on, conference</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1673" data-t="1673">attendees and and who's clapping for what.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1678" data-t="1678">I don't know what I did a Twitter poll asking if that's how people think that consensus should be formed around Bitcoin development. It's kinda like you know, there there's a lot of ways that people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1688" data-t="1688">try to form consensus. They form consensus based on,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1692" data-t="1692">or their understanding of consensus. I would say consensus is being formed. Their understanding of consensus is being formed by</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1701">28:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1701" data-t="1701">what they see in their algorithm</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1704" data-t="1704">on Twitter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1706" data-t="1706">It's being formed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1708" data-t="1708">by what they see or hear on the podcast that they listen to. It's being formed by,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1714" data-t="1714">what they're hearing in Twitter spaces.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1718" data-t="1718">It's been</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1719">28:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1719" data-t="1719">but I I I'm just really not sure if it makes a whole lot of sense to to form consensus</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1725" data-t="1725">or your understanding of consensus based on what's happening at the Tether conference.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1730">28:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1730" data-t="1730">Right. It would it would definitely make some sense,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1734" data-t="1734">make more sense</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1736" data-t="1736">to you to form a consensus based on Bitcoin commerce, but not a Tether conference. I mean, Tether</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1742" data-t="1742">is a totally</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1743" data-t="1743">separate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1744" data-t="1744">totally separate coin, totally separate I guess it doesn't have its own chain, but it's it's kinda like a parasite on other chains.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1752">29:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1752" data-t="1752">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1753" data-t="1753">one thing that I think we all know is that, you know, the average person that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1758" data-t="1758">is sitting in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1760" data-t="1760">a conference listening to the things being discussed is they're primarily there to hear Plebs Law. And I'm not sure</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1768" data-t="1768">if it makes a whole lot of sense to be forming me in your understanding of consensus based on people that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1776" data-t="1776">just consume and regurgitate plug slant. I agree.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1780">29:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1780" data-t="1780">Although there is you know, some people say that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1783" data-t="1783">it is not up to core, for example, to be activists and to, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1791" data-t="1791">make changes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1792" data-t="1792">based on their</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1793" data-t="1793">desires, but they kinda have to let go where Bitcoin's going. And if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1798" data-t="1798">consensus is being determined from</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1802">30:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1802" data-t="1802">Club Slop and the people who consume it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1805" data-t="1805">does core have kind of a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1808" data-t="1808">obligation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1809" data-t="1809">to go where the Club Slop's going? Skate where the skate where the club slot is going, not where the club slot is.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1817">30:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1817" data-t="1817">Do they have a fiduciary</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1819" data-t="1819">under or obligation to the clubs</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1822">30:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1822" data-t="1822">to follow the slot? That's what you And that yeah. And that yeah. Well, that is I well, I'm not saying that that is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1829" data-t="1829">necessarily</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1831" data-t="1831">the case, but I think that is becoming</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1833" data-t="1833">the question,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1834" data-t="1834">one of the big questions.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1837">30:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1837" data-t="1837">It's definitely a question that a lot of people are asking. I think that's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1842" data-t="1842">you know, what what Justin Bachelor is really trying to communicate</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1846">30:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1846" data-t="1846">is that that should be the case. Right. Right. Yes. He and he say that very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1851" data-t="1851">well, he didn't state it very clearly, but he tried to state it in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1856" data-t="1856">on the on the What is Money podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1859" data-t="1859">And that was kind of like my take away was the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1862" data-t="1862">they do. Like, they must they have to go on they have to look at the the down votes, the thumbs down,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1870" data-t="1870">and the likes and comments,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1872">31:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1872" data-t="1872">and the flip slot to to determine</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1875" data-t="1875">where</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1876" data-t="1876">people where the users,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1878" data-t="1878">what the what their,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1880" data-t="1880">concerns are. It's like the will of the voters, the will of the pledge. Speaking of the what is money podcast,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1887">31:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1887" data-t="1887">Robert Breedlove posted a interesting picture with his</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1891" data-t="1891">wife.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1894">31:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1894" data-t="1894">Right. He was, they were standing both of them were standing topless on a beach,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1900" data-t="1900">on Bitcoin Beach, and he had his hands</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1903" data-t="1903">covering,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1905" data-t="1905">Lauren's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1906" data-t="1906">Lauren's boobs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1908" data-t="1908">And first of all,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1911">31:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1911" data-t="1911">I don't I don't I don't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1913" data-t="1913">I don't think we should sense your boobs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1916" data-t="1916">I don't know why he did that, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1919" data-t="1919">it was kind of a metaphor. Right? It was like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1922" data-t="1922">if you if you watched the Justin Beschler episode,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1925" data-t="1925">it seemed like</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1928">32:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1928" data-t="1928">Robert Breedlove</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1929" data-t="1929">wanted silence</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1931" data-t="1931">the bloop, who was his,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1933" data-t="1933">interview that day, just Justin Bachelor. It's like, why is why is Robert Breedlove trying to censor boots? Why is he censoring plebs?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1943">32:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1943" data-t="1943">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1945" data-t="1945">I think it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1946" data-t="1946">I don't know. I mean, it is I think it is clear that, the re the motivation for censoring her boobs is because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1955" data-t="1955">there's a monetization</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1957" data-t="1957">strategy. You can you can go get the uncensored boobs for, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1962" data-t="1962">small fee.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1963">32:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1963" data-t="1963">$790</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1965" data-t="1965">on OnlyFans.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1967">32:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1967" data-t="1967">Is that how much it cost?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1969">32:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1969" data-t="1969">I don't know. I don't know. That was just a that was just to the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1974" data-t="1974">a goof,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1975" data-t="1975">a jest of mine, making fun of a crater there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1979" data-t="1979">But, I I didn't even said the boob angle,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1983" data-t="1983">silencing and censoring boobs,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1985" data-t="1985">that was probably not what most people</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1988">33:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1988" data-t="1988">saw or thought about when they saw that picture. Right? Like, it was more of a, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1992" data-t="1992">what the hell are you dealing, bro? Like, what was your reaction when you saw that when you saw that in Frodo?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2001">33:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2001" data-t="2001">I I think I understood</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2003" data-t="2003">what you were saying on the Bubba podcast talking about Pub Slot boots. Thank The guy had a revelation.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2009">33:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2009" data-t="2009">Yes. It is. I'm glad you mentioned that because that is exactly what I was gonna say. I would say,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2014" data-t="2014">that is a perfect example. You know, I used the Anna Nicole Smith example,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2019" data-t="2019">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2020" data-t="2020">Lauren Boondy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2022" data-t="2022">is the much more contemporary example of club slot milkers.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2029">33:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2029" data-t="2029">Yeah. I thought I thought it just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2031" data-t="2031">you did not do a good job of explaining it. So I just thought it was outrageous. But sometimes you just have to, you know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2039" data-t="2039">I get it now. I understand what club slot milkers are. And then what did I tell you right? I told you</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2046">34:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2046" data-t="2046">it's hard to describe it. You just know them when you see them. And it's exactly what happened. Once you saw plug slot milkers, you're like, oh, I get it. I see what you say.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2056">34:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2056" data-t="2056">Yeah. I mean, it's pretty interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2060" data-t="2060">It's just it's gotta be a weird dynamic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2064" data-t="2064">in general to, you know, have a wife that Bitcoin plugs are jerking off to. You know what I mean?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2071">34:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2071" data-t="2071">I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2072" data-t="2072">it it it is curious</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2074" data-t="2074">people's reaction</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2076" data-t="2076">to, like podcasters and other Bitcoiners' wives.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2079" data-t="2079">There was a thread on Friday,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2082" data-t="2082">where</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2084">34:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2084" data-t="2084">some of the Knots runners were</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2087" data-t="2087">kind of talking about how hot Ocean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2090" data-t="2090">you know, the mechanic's wife is and how hot Luke's wife must be and then the lawyer from Ocean replies, for what it's worth, I also have a hot wife and five kids for proof of work which I don't know what that means but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2106" data-t="2106">and then, you know, every time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2108" data-t="2108">Joyce, Mechanic's wife posts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2111" data-t="2111">Justin Bachelor and a lot of other naz guys, they they always comment, like, but how hot and cool</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2117">35:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2117" data-t="2117">Mechanic's wife is. And there's just a lot of respect for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2121" data-t="2121">the the nazi wives,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2124" data-t="2124">amongst that group. They really respect and think that the other guy's lives are hot and they they love to tell them that. I just find that interesting. Who do you think has</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2135" data-t="2135">in this debate or like in the on the not side, who do you think has the hottest wife? It's not something I would, like, normally comments on, to be honest, like, other the hottest of other people's wives. But if they want to make</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2146" data-t="2146">a public ordeal about how hot their wife is, I think it's fair to to talk about it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2154">35:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2154" data-t="2154">Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I I I don't really know these guys' wives. Like, I've met mechanic's wife before. She's the only one.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2162" data-t="2162">She's hot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2164" data-t="2164">But,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2165">36:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2165" data-t="2165">Yeah. Yeah. For sure.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2167">36:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2167" data-t="2167">Yeah. I don't know. I mean, that's that's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2169" data-t="2169">I don't I don't I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2171" data-t="2171">I think the only way that we could really determine consensus on who has the hottest, Nazi wife is, if at the Tether Conference next year, they go on stage and take turns, having the audience applaud for them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2186" data-t="2186">It's just I would be Yeah. Concerned</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2189" data-t="2189">that they might rig that. It might not be an open and and free,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2195" data-t="2195">process of determining consensus because, you know, one of them could</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2200">36:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2200" data-t="2200">sneak in a,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2202" data-t="2202">applause, you know, instruction</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2204" data-t="2204">or</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2205">36:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2205" data-t="2205">applause transcript. Yeah. It's too easy to game it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2208" data-t="2208">It's like it'd be like voting for Teddy Bay coins. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2212" data-t="2212">I'll tell you, there was there were some plug slot milkers on stage at the Tether conference that people did not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2219" data-t="2219">applaud for.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2220" data-t="2220">And those were Peter Tots. Peter Totten had a very tight shirt on,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2224" data-t="2224">nipples protruding, very disrespectful in front of the plebs.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2228">37:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2228" data-t="2228">And he did not get applause for those Club slot milkers. Those Club slot man elkers.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2235">37:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2235" data-t="2235">Yeah. What he did do, though, is he tweeted about hearing, Luke talk about child porn in the bar.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2242">37:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2242" data-t="2242">Yeah. He said Luke was up at 01:00 in the morning in the Swiss,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2247" data-t="2247">in the Swiss bar talking to presumably,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2251" data-t="2251">somebody else's wife and talking about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2253" data-t="2253">CSAM. Oh.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2255" data-t="2255">What about,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2256">37:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2256" data-t="2256">a is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2257" data-t="2257">the world of Ponkoff is sure,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2260" data-t="2260">interesting right now, to say the least.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2264">37:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2264" data-t="2264">Is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2266" data-t="2266">have you been following the Nostril?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2268" data-t="2268">Like, I guess, they kinda counts as a conference. Is Nostril a PODConf approved conference? Not entirely. I mean, there was definitely some pep slop</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2281">38:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2281" data-t="2281">as you know, so a lot of Monastra users like Plebslop is fine.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2286" data-t="2286">But there Sure. There were some there were some good vibes to say the least.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2291">38:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2291" data-t="2291">Yeah. Anybody who do anybody who denies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2295" data-t="2295">that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2296" data-t="2296">an ostrich is like Plebslop has never posted Plebslop on an Oster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2300" data-t="2300">and gotten,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2302" data-t="2302">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2303" data-t="2303">gone viral.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2306">38:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2306" data-t="2306">It's just a it's a different type of club slop. You know what I mean?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2310">38:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2310" data-t="2310">That's true. It is it is more of a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2314" data-t="2314">more recruit,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2317" data-t="2317">simple club slop.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2319">38:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2319" data-t="2319">I think Ben Jossman might be the king of Nostra Pub Slot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2325" data-t="2325">On Twitter, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2327" data-t="2327">what what's interesting is Pub Slot on Nostra might look like signal on Twitter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2333" data-t="2333">It's just it is different.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2336">38:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2336" data-t="2336">Yeah. It's it's like the Pub Slop's in the eye of the beholder,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2340" data-t="2340">and, like, one man's Pub Slops, another man's signal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2344" data-t="2344">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2345" data-t="2345">you you can just totally invert it with context depending on which platform you posted on. Yeah. No. Nostril was cool.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2352">39:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2352" data-t="2352">There's some people doing some interesting stuff. I think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2358" data-t="2358">I'm just you know, continue to be astounded by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2362" data-t="2362">the stuff that is being built</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2365" data-t="2365">on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2366" data-t="2366">Nasr and how functional and useful it is for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2370" data-t="2370">the things that we're doing,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2374">39:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2374" data-t="2374">which is why I'm a fan</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2376" data-t="2376">of it. It's I'd I'd I'd never really understood the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2382" data-t="2382">kinda like rally the plabs,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2385" data-t="2385">you know, behind this, you know, idea that none of them understands</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2389" data-t="2389">strategy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2390" data-t="2390">which is what was used primarily. But now there's all this functionality</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2394">39:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2394" data-t="2394">built being built in it to be able to use Bitcoin. That's pretty cool.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2398" data-t="2398">The zapping,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2400" data-t="2400">it's pretty nifty.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2402" data-t="2402">The,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2404" data-t="2404">the thing like, my biggest</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2406" data-t="2406">thing that I like is I really like when somebody boosts our podcast. It's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2411">40:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2411" data-t="2411">posted on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2413" data-t="2413">my nostril feed. So I'm just scrolling through it. I can see my boost there and interact and, you know, comment on them. I really like that feature a lot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2421" data-t="2421">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2424" data-t="2424">I like how</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2427" data-t="2427">just the the interconnectedness,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2428" data-t="2428">like, you're streaming on ZapStream,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2430">40:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2430" data-t="2430">for example,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2432" data-t="2432">and it shows up on Primal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2435" data-t="2435">That's really cool.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2436" data-t="2436">That's really, really cool.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2440" data-t="2440">It shows it did like, the the ability to to be discovered</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2444" data-t="2444">in the Noster ecosystem is getting</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2447">40:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2447" data-t="2447">a lot easier that in in ways that these other social media platforms don't allow for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2454" data-t="2454">to the same degree. And, like, if if they do have that functionality,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2459" data-t="2459">you have to comply super hard</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2461" data-t="2461">in order to enjoy the benefits of it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2464" data-t="2464">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2467" data-t="2467">it it has the potential to be, you know, really cool and really,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2472">41:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2472" data-t="2472">non compliant. Like, it it it seems like a useful place for a journalist to be. So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2478" data-t="2478">I mean, I find that promising, but, you know, there there's a lot of discussion around,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2482" data-t="2482">you know, kinda, like, whining about, like, how people just don't get in, like, the other system sucks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2489" data-t="2489">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2491" data-t="2491">I find I find those types of conversations just not that interesting or compelling,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2496" data-t="2496">because</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2499">41:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2499" data-t="2499">it's like, yeah. We we know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2502" data-t="2502">we know there's MPCs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2506" data-t="2506">And, like, you you don't have to spend all all your time, you know, bitching and moaning about the MPCs and bitching and moaning about how everybody's retarded. Like, you you can just kinda do things,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2518" data-t="2518">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2519" data-t="2519">you can support your friends that are doing things.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2523" data-t="2523">And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2525">42:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2525" data-t="2525">you tell cool stories. You can,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2530" data-t="2530">just put your head down and, you know, do your thing. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2536" data-t="2536">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2538" data-t="2538">I mean, that's what that's what's exciting about Nostra to me. I think more people spending their energy on doing that instead of just, like, complaining about how Spotify sucks or whatever,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2548" data-t="2548">you know, the the Fiau platform is is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2551" data-t="2551">is kinda how things,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2552">42:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2552" data-t="2552">progress</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2554" data-t="2554">in that regard.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2556" data-t="2556">But, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2557" data-t="2557">it was cool. I got to hear Joe Martin play for the first time. He's a very good artist. If you haven't listened to his, music, you should definitely check it out, but he's out recording a new album in The</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2570" data-t="2570">US. And, I'm excited to hear it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2573" data-t="2573">And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2574">42:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2574" data-t="2574">yeah. I mean, these these two, you know, artists played, and they they earned</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2579" data-t="2579">half 1,000,000 sats</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2582" data-t="2582">doing a live stream, which I think is huge.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2585" data-t="2585">I think that's really cool because a lot of artists that that play in a room full of, like, 40 people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2592" data-t="2592">you know, they they might earn, like, $75,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2595" data-t="2595">75 USDTs.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2600">43:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2600" data-t="2600">So, I mean, I mean, that's like a compelling story.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2604" data-t="2604">That's a that's a cool story to tell.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2607" data-t="2607">I I think that's a much cooler story to focus on than, you know, Spotify</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2611" data-t="2611">not paying artist money.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2613" data-t="2613">But, yeah, Nostril was cool.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2616" data-t="2616">The the these Nostril events are</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2619">43:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2619" data-t="2619">full of a bunch of goofballs, but there there's some great people on the intellectual silk road</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2623" data-t="2623">that you'll you'll encounter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2627" data-t="2627">Definitely worth going to. I would I would encourage people to check it out if you ever have an event like this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2633" data-t="2633">happening near you. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2635" data-t="2635">yeah,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2636" data-t="2636">one thing I thought was really interesting is, it looks like Zelle's gonna integrate Tether. Did you see that?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2643">44:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2643" data-t="2643">Yeah. They,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2645">44:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2645" data-t="2645">good luck competing with Tether on Lightning. What do you think is gonna happen at first?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2650" data-t="2650">Widespread adoption</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2652" data-t="2652">of Tether on Zelle or Tether on Noster?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2657">44:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2657" data-t="2657">Tether on Noster, for sure.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2660" data-t="2660">Tether on Noster will be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2662" data-t="2662">yeah. Once you can do it on Lightning, you can sap some Tether.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2666" data-t="2666">That will that will really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2669" data-t="2669">that will give the feds on Nostra finally. But the problem is Lightning doesn't work.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2675" data-t="2675">Well, custodial lightning works. So in the if you're gonna use Tether on lightning, you might as well use custodial lightning because, a, it works, and b, because,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2685">44:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2685" data-t="2685">you know, you have to rely on that treasury backing anyway. So what's the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2690" data-t="2690">what's the point of the bad UX just to use</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2695" data-t="2695">and send an asset that is, you know, ultimately</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2699" data-t="2699">permissioned</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2700">44:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2700" data-t="2700">and and, centralized? That's a good point.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2703" data-t="2703">I mean, maybe Tethr coming</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2705" data-t="2705">to Lightning</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2706" data-t="2706">is what it takes for Lightning to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2709" data-t="2709">to get some,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2711">45:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2711" data-t="2711">functionality. That's what yeah. I think that's what peep a lot of people have been saying this all along. It's like we're just waiting on Tether online for the user experience and the functionality to finally</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2722" data-t="2722">kinda hit that escape velocity.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2725">45:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2725" data-t="2725">Does that mean that we should stop saying Bitcoin fixes this and start saying dollars fixes this? Tether fixes this? I think it's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2733">45:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2733" data-t="2733">I think it's the synergy. I think it's the Bitcoin dollar fixes this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2738" data-t="2738">The Bitcoin Tether fixes this.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2740">45:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2740" data-t="2740">We're gonna have to have a conversation with Mark Goodwin about this.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2745">45:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2745" data-t="2745">Right. Because I you know, I don't think he can I don't think you have the full potential</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2751" data-t="2751">of either of these,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2753" data-t="2753">assets without each other?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2756" data-t="2756">I think that that's the it's like a synergistic effect.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2759" data-t="2759">You have to have the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2762" data-t="2762">the USDT price</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2763">46:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2763" data-t="2763">n g u</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2765" data-t="2765">to really,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2768" data-t="2768">you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2770" data-t="2770">know, highlight</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2772" data-t="2772">the value of the other.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2773" data-t="2773">And then you have the n g u of</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2776">46:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2776" data-t="2776">Bitcoin and USDC germs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2779" data-t="2779">and it gives you it just proves like, oh,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2782" data-t="2782">the stability of this for this, you know, I it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2785" data-t="2785">it's the Bitcoin dollar fixes this that is the ultimate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2789" data-t="2789">message, I think. Is that bullish or bearish? The yay time, you're fixing things. It's bullish.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2795" data-t="2795">Because gold fixed</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2797">46:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2797" data-t="2797">these problems that we didn't know we had. And then we went off the gold standard. We went on the petrodollar,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2802" data-t="2802">but the petrodollar doesn't fix things. The petrodollar</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2805" data-t="2805">causes damage to the climate, but the Bitcoin dollar fixes this.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2811">46:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2811" data-t="2811">Hell, yeah. It's fascinating. I mean, it's it's gonna be interesting to see,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2816" data-t="2816">what the Nazis' take on this is. I think they'll be a fan because Tether transactions on Bitcoin are monetary transactions.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2824" data-t="2824">Right? So that fits into their mental models.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2827">47:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2827" data-t="2827">And, you know, Tether is a huge financial backer of Ocean and the and and the nots guys. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2835" data-t="2835">wherever Tyler thinks, I think they will probably be easy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2839" data-t="2839">to get them over to the to that camp and to side with it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2844">47:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2844" data-t="2844">Yep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2846" data-t="2846">How how do you think Stefan Lavera is feeling this week</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2850" data-t="2850">after, being on the debate stage</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2852" data-t="2852">and not having,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2854" data-t="2854">instructions for people to clap for him?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2858">47:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2858" data-t="2858">He he probably felt a little unprepared.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2860" data-t="2860">Very, very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2862" data-t="2862">few times</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2863" data-t="2863">is a Bitcoin podcaster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2865" data-t="2865">get to a situation and feel unprepared.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2868" data-t="2868">But</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2869">47:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2869" data-t="2869">before turning,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2871">47:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2871" data-t="2871">it's one of those times where you see edge cases like this. I've been a little bit preoccupied this week, so I haven't really been,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2879" data-t="2879">following,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2880" data-t="2880">a lot of the trends of what's going on. Do you have any Well, I mean, club</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2884" data-t="2884">Oh, good.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2885">48:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2885" data-t="2885">Trying to say club slots are more popular than ever. That's the biggest trend, and it's it's it's the inertia and the momentum is accelerating. Interesting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2894">48:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2894" data-t="2894">Seems like Francis likes the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2896" data-t="2896">the pub slot PR. Interesting. There's a lot of news coming out of France this week. I think their their government dissolved again.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2904">48:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2904" data-t="2904">Oh,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2906" data-t="2906">Brigitte Macron</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2908" data-t="2908">went to pay her taxes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2910" data-t="2910">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2911" data-t="2911">found out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2913" data-t="2913">that she's in the system as Jean Michael.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2917">48:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2917" data-t="2917">Really?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2920">48:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2920" data-t="2920">That's a big news. Yeah. I thought that I I thought that's the news you were referring to.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2925" data-t="2925">But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2926" data-t="2926">Regine McCrone is is is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2929" data-t="2929">listed in the government computers on the the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2933" data-t="2933">the French tax</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2935" data-t="2935">computers as, Jean Michel,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2938">48:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2938" data-t="2938">which is a male name.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2942">49:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2942" data-t="2942">That's really big news. So does it mean Candace is completely vindicated at this point?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2949">49:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2949" data-t="2949">Yes. If if she wasn't vindicated for being hot,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2952" data-t="2952">she's definitely vindicated now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2956">49:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2956" data-t="2956">Yeah. I agree. Candace is hot. She's kinda retarded a lot of the times, but she's still hot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2961" data-t="2961">She likes Plop Slop.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2964">49:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2964" data-t="2964">Oh, she loves Plop Slop. Absolutely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2966" data-t="2966">She loves it. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2969">49:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2969" data-t="2969">This, like, conservative conspiracy theory plub slop is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2974" data-t="2974">it it it's evolving. Like, Alex Jones used to be the bastion of it, but now there's, you know, new people coming to the forefront. Ian Carroll will canvas Owens. Nate, what about Nick?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2983">49:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2983" data-t="2983">Is that is that flip slap? Yeah. But, like, he</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2987">49:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2987" data-t="2987">he, like, uses it, but he</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2992" data-t="2992">I mean, he's got a lot of really retarded ideas, but he he's very well articulated.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2997" data-t="2997">I think he's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2999" data-t="2999">he's a little bit better.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3001" data-t="3001">He's he's not just sitting there repeating,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3005" data-t="3005">tag lines over and over again.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3008">50:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3008" data-t="3008">I think he's got a little bit more thoughtfulness to his content.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3013">50:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3013" data-t="3013">Yeah. For sure. He's definitely very articulate, very,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3016" data-t="3016">very compelling.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3019" data-t="3019">Yeah. He When he when he speaks about a topic, that's not ridiculous.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3023" data-t="3023">Yeah. Even when he does speak on a ridiculous topic, he's still very articulate, very compelling, which is part of the, you know I don't know if problem is the right word, but some people would definitely see it as such.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3036">50:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3036" data-t="3036">Yep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3037" data-t="3037">I think most people in Israel probably don't like him very much.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3044" data-t="3044">No. I was I was bringing up France because of the crown jewels that were guys got stolen.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3050">50:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3050" data-t="3050">Hell, yeah. The</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3052" data-t="3052">I I I read today that they was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3054" data-t="3054">suspected as an inside job. The, head of security or or not head of security, just somebody in security,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3061" data-t="3061">they were</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3064" data-t="3064">linked to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3066" data-t="3066">discussion with the, heist,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3069">51:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3069" data-t="3069">robbers</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3069">by</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3072" data-t="3072">through digital communication. They were texting back and forth. They were in the crew chat.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3078">51:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3078" data-t="3078">I mean, this is an example. They they should probably look at,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3081" data-t="3081">hiring the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3086" data-t="3086">the Bitcoin veterans</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3087" data-t="3087">to replace,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3089" data-t="3089">their local security.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3091" data-t="3091">You get,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3093">51:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3093" data-t="3093">a Average carrier would never let that heist happen. My Cobart, my Cobart would never ever have let the crown</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3101" data-t="3101">jewels</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3102" data-t="3102">he heisted if he was running that if he was running security.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3107">51:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3107" data-t="3107">No way.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3108">51:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3108" data-t="3108">I mean Alex, Alex Dancik?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3111" data-t="3111">I don't know. They said his vault of gold were heisted, but I don't know. I don't have enough information on that one.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3120">51:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3120" data-t="3120">Yeah. I mean, you you want you want people to listen to Bitcoin podcast guarding your crown jewels. You know what I mean?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3128">52:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3128" data-t="3128">Metaphorically and literally.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3130" data-t="3130">Are you eating cereal or tuna?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3134">52:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3134" data-t="3134">I'm eating chicken and rice, actually.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3137">52:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3137" data-t="3137">Nice.</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3137">So if they're more dynamically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3139" data-t="3139">sound,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3140" data-t="3140">podcast meal.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3144">52:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3144" data-t="3144">I don't know. I haven't eaten cereal since I was a kid. You know what I mean?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3148">52:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3148" data-t="3148">I love cereal, but I don't eat I mean, I I I haven't had cereal in years because it is cereals, plub slop. Let's put it let's I mean, Lucky Charms, plub slop. Trix, Club Slop.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3160" data-t="3160">Fruity Pebbles, Club Slop. Cinnamon Toast Crunch, Club Slop. My favorite, Captain Crunch,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3166" data-t="3166">Club Slop.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3168">52:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3168" data-t="3168">I used to love some Captain Crunch. That's for sure.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3174">52:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3174" data-t="3174">If if you don't like Captain Crunch, lose my Telegram</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3178">52:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3178" data-t="3178">contact. Yeah. It's been a it's been a fun week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3181" data-t="3181">I would say it's been a very busy week for me. I've had a good time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3186" data-t="3186">Been spending a lot of time with my good friend Shadrach.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3190" data-t="3190">Big fan of Shadrach.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3193">53:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3193" data-t="3193">Shadrach.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3194" data-t="3194">You and Shadrach has been farting around?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3196">53:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3196" data-t="3196">We've been farting around,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3199" data-t="3199">talking about podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3201" data-t="3201">smoking cigarettes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3203" data-t="3203">talking about music.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3205">53:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3205" data-t="3205">I I don't think I don't think it's possible to have a bad time farting around with Shadrach.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3210">53:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3210" data-t="3210">No. If you if you want somebody to fart around with, Shadrach's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3214" data-t="3214">probably one of the best in the world.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3218">53:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3218" data-t="3218">I would love to fart around Shadrach and Bubba at, like, Satoshi.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3223">53:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3223" data-t="3223">I can't wait to yeah. There's gonna be some good farting around in the future for sure. Oh, you get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3229" data-t="3229">Shadrach</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3230">53:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3230" data-t="3230">and Oh, speaking of Bubba,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3232" data-t="3232">I hope that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3235" data-t="3235">Sylvie's new song</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3237" data-t="3237">ends up being their,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3238" data-t="3238">their podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3240" data-t="3240">like theme song because</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3243">54:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3243" data-t="3243">it's fucking slaps.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3246">54:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3246" data-t="3246">It's so good.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3249">54:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3249" data-t="3249">It's about I don't know. Is that available on Wave Lake yet? I don't know. He sent it Bubba sent that to me on Telegram this morning,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3256" data-t="3256">and it was it was pretty early. Bubba must have got up at 05:00 in the morning to share that song. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3262" data-t="3262">so it's the first thing I saw this morning. I started listening to it, and I was like, damn, this is this this hits hard.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3268">54:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3268" data-t="3268">It's a it's certified banger. Yeah. I mean, it's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3273" data-t="3273">I think it's her first song that she or one of her first songs that she's done.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3277" data-t="3277">It's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3278" data-t="3278">it's gonna be a great opener for the podcast. Yeah. I wonder when they're gonna put out their next show, but, yeah, look out, folks. Two main recants.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3286">54:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3286" data-t="3286">We got a And it and that's she's singing Sylvia sings that song.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3292" data-t="3292">She sounds like Joan Jett mixed with Pat Benatar,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3296" data-t="3296">mixed with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3299" data-t="3299">who else? It's like a it it it's it's feminine, but it's got it's got, like, that that raspy sound. It sounds so good.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3309" data-t="3309">Little Janus Joplin. Well,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3311">55:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3311" data-t="3311">do you got anything else before we go on the fountain booth?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3315">55:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3315" data-t="3315">No. I think this week is just kind of a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3319" data-t="3319">this is kind of a weird week, kind of a busy week, kind of interesting week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3323" data-t="3323">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3325" data-t="3325">I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3327" data-t="3327">that we'll have more of the the ideas. Stuff will keep on developing and and unraveling, and we'll be able to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3334" data-t="3334">elucidate on it further in the coming weeks, especially the,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3338">55:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3338" data-t="3338">club activated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3340" data-t="3340">Slop Fork in the progress that make. Absolutely.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3344">55:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3344" data-t="3344">Well, the first boost of last week's show titled</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3349" data-t="3349">puppets on strings shout no kings.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3352" data-t="3352">We talked about the boomers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3354" data-t="3354">that are out there protesting,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3356">55:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3356" data-t="3356">through the No Kings protest. Well, my my my comment on,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3363" data-t="3363">at GitHub</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3365" data-t="3365">on the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3366" data-t="3366">soft fork</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3367" data-t="3367">has been deleted. I've been censored</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3370" data-t="3370">by</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3372">56:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3372" data-t="3372">from the discussion.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3374" data-t="3374">Interesting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3375">56:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3375" data-t="3375">Wow.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3377" data-t="3377">So what should we do about this? Should we, throw up our hands and and have a whole campaign against Bitcoin core now?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3384" data-t="3384">Stomper feet. That's what I wanna do. Who should we target?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3388" data-t="3388">Who do you who do you think, deleted it? Should we go after lock? Should we go after lower? It says it it says Bitcoin</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3395">56:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3395" data-t="3395">deleted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3396" data-t="3396">your comment.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3399" data-t="3399">Interesting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3401">56:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3401" data-t="3401">Should we fork Bitcoin for ourselves now?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3406">56:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3406" data-t="3406">We have to we have to we have to launch a, Bugle soft fork.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3412">56:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3412" data-t="3412">Maybe a Bugle hard fork. Seems like we're moving into forking season. So, you know, if there's gonna be,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3418" data-t="3418">forks, maybe we should have we should jump on the bandwagon.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3422" data-t="3422">We should engage in the free market. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3425" data-t="3425">I I don't know. It'd be interesting. Do you think Bugle Fork could outcompete Plopslop Fork?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3431" data-t="3431">Do you think we have enough momentum?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3435">57:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3435" data-t="3435">I I don't know if Plopslop is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3438" data-t="3438">so popular. It it's like if if you think of, like, populist</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3443" data-t="3443">politics, there's nothing more pop populist right now than Pub Slot. Populous Pub Slot.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3449">57:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3449" data-t="3449">How much hash rate do you think we can get with fork? How many bid access do you think you could,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3454" data-t="3454">get on the the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3456" data-t="3456">bugle fork?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3457">57:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3457" data-t="3457">I think we could get at least as much as as Swan had. Swan and Tether</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3462" data-t="3462">had for Swan mining. We could have a dashboard.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3466">57:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3466" data-t="3466">That's a significant amount of hash rate.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3470" data-t="3470">There's probably more hash rate than Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin SV have combined at this point.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3478" data-t="3478">Well, cool.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3479" data-t="3479">Fountain boost, well, actually not cool. That's pretty lame that they they censored you. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3486" data-t="3486">first boost,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3487" data-t="3487">fundamentals, 10,101</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3489">58:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3489" data-t="3489">says, I can always count on Richard to suit beyond the slop when I participate with PodConf, good episode, and great job with the intro. Yeah. Thank you so much.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3499" data-t="3499">I enjoyed his,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3500" data-t="3500">his talk</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3502" data-t="3502">or his interview that he did with Larry.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3505">58:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3505" data-t="3505">I thought that was pretty good. Yeah. It was it was good to check that out for sure. The the Canadian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3511" data-t="3511">Canadian conference there in Montreal. It's a good old fireside chat. Is it officially gay to call these things fireside chats?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3520" data-t="3520">I feel like it is. Yeah. I don't know if it's gay to call with that. It's just but it is a it is a gay format for sure.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3527" data-t="3527">I don't know. Brazilian Brazilian jiu jitsu is is pretty gay. It's guys in their pajamas sweating on each other,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3535" data-t="3535">wrestling around,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3536" data-t="3536">hugging each other, putting their faces close to each other. But, you know, it's still necessary.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3541">59:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3541" data-t="3541">It's so important to have these formats, have these discussions, have these,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3546" data-t="3546">these roles. Pull guard</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3548" data-t="3548">immediately.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3550" data-t="3550">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3550">Oh, that's yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3554" data-t="3554">Next one from open mic,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3557">59:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3557" data-t="3557">Toonsterville,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3558" data-t="3558">7,777</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3561" data-t="3561">stats. Bugle Mile High Club are within its way to Nostrilville.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3566" data-t="3566">Hell yeah. Well, Mike</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3567" data-t="3567">Mike loves listening to the bugle</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3570" data-t="3570">on,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3571">59:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3571" data-t="3571">on a plane. It's the listening to the bugle weekly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3575" data-t="3575">on a on a flight is the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3579" data-t="3579">well, it's the the coolest it's the best thing you can do legally now, but it's the second best you can do. Smoke a cigarette will be number one.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3588">59:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3588" data-t="3588">I gotta say, Open Mike's a true pioneer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3590" data-t="3590">Like, he's an example of a guy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3594" data-t="3594">that saw a problem and is trying to fix it, you know, very actively. He's getting around. He's ex incredibly active,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3603" data-t="3603">pulling a lot of people together. Has a lot of really cool</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3606" data-t="3606">experience</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3606">and,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3609">1:00:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3609" data-t="3609">has has no,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3613" data-t="3613">yeah. He's not a club. He's a true pioneer. Big fan. Late stage HODL 6006</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3618" data-t="3618">at says, Creed is top notch. Pleb slop.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3621" data-t="3621">I like some Pleb slop on occasion, like Friday beers in the garage, blaring Creed, or catching up on your 40 HPW.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3630" data-t="3630">Sometimes the bugles plug slop, but it knows it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3633" data-t="3633">So it's ironic and it's okay.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3635">1:00:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3635" data-t="3635">It's like cosmic gumbo.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3638" data-t="3638">It moves to the beat of jazz.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3641" data-t="3641">I wouldn't I wouldn't say that we're plug slop. I think we just, comment on the plug slop, and we,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3647" data-t="3647">we try to mirror it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3650" data-t="3650">reflect it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3651" data-t="3651">so that, the sloppers can have a little bit more awareness. But,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3656">1:00:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3656" data-t="3656">yeah. I I agree. There's nothing wrong with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3659" data-t="3659">with consuming some plub slop from time to time. I'd I'll I like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3662" data-t="3662">me some plub slop too here and there. It's kinda it's kinda like eating sugar. You know what I mean?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3668" data-t="3668">You don't wanna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3670" data-t="3670">eat too much sugar or else you'll get diabetes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3673" data-t="3673">And that'll be bad. Speaking of which,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3676">1:01:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3676" data-t="3676">diabetes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3677" data-t="3677">Luke Junior</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3679" data-t="3679">was warning people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3680" data-t="3680">not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3681" data-t="3681">to do what you did this week, which was upload all of your grandma's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3685" data-t="3685">famous pie recipes</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3688">1:01:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3688" data-t="3688">on chain because the pie recipes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3690" data-t="3690">will</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3691">1:01:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3691" data-t="3691">will give Bitcoin type two diabetes. I don't know why that was so offensive. I I was, like, really taken aback.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3697" data-t="3697">You know, my grandma</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3699" data-t="3699">was very was a very sweet woman,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3701" data-t="3701">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3703" data-t="3703">she's got some epic pie recipes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3706" data-t="3706">Some of the best in the world. Like, I I felt like Deshir was doing a great service to humanity,</span></span></p> +