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Richard Grieser</span> <span class="cue" id="t-6" data-t="6">asked me to give my thoughts on some legal theory regarding the revelations from Lola Litz's recent piece, In The Rage.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-13" data-t="13">It appears that Luke's lawyers have been working on attempting to set some legal precedence around spam and are alleged to be drafting letters to mining pools.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-23" data-t="23">They seem to want to use threats of government coercion in order to further their goals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-28" data-t="28">of how they think other businesses should operate, as well as how individuals should be running nodes in their own homes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-35" data-t="35">If there is one thing that gets a Jewish lawyer like me excited,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-39">0:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Phil Moore Katz</b> <span class="cue" id="t-39" data-t="39">it is law fair and outrageous legal theory.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-42" data-t="42">Let it be said,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-44" data-t="44">two can play this game, but the Jew always wins.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-47" data-t="47">A legal precedent was set in 1919</span> <span class="cue" id="t-50" data-t="50">in the United States Supreme Court case, Schenck versus United States, that shouting fire in a crowded theater</span> <span class="cue" id="t-57" data-t="57">was not a First Amendment protected activity as it was done to unjustly incite panic.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-62">1:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Phil Moore Katz</b> <span class="cue" id="t-62" data-t="62">Actions like these are dangerous and immoral.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-66" data-t="66">We have seen in recent months individuals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-69" data-t="69">attempt to incite panic that bitcoin will die as a result of running core version 30.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-75" data-t="75">This is patently false as raising the op return limit will have almost no effect whatsoever</span> <span class="cue" id="t-81" data-t="81">at encouraging spam as it is four times as expensive as current inscription mechanisms.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-88" data-t="88">Individuals including uncredentialed</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-90">1:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Phil Moore Katz</b> <span class="cue" id="t-90" data-t="90">professors,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-91" data-t="91">influencers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-92" data-t="92">mining pool operators,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-93" data-t="93">podcasters,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-94" data-t="94">and developers have repeatedly shouted fire in the crowded theater, which is bitcoin, twitter, etcetera.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-100" data-t="100">They have used threats of state violence as a mechanism to enforce node policy</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-105">1:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Phil Moore Katz</b> <span class="cue" id="t-105" data-t="105">and have concocted wild theories on exploitative</span> <span class="cue" id="t-108" data-t="108">material</span> <span class="cue" id="t-109" data-t="109">being dispersed on the bitcoin block chain.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-112" data-t="112">I am not an advocate for state violence as I believe humans can resolve many issues</span> <span class="cue" id="t-118" data-t="118">without violence from powerful criminal gangs who are made up predominantly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-122" data-t="122">of individuals who consume exploitative</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-125">2:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Phil Moore Katz</b> <span class="cue" id="t-125" data-t="125">materials.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-127" data-t="127">But the ones shouting fire in crowded theaters</span> <span class="cue" id="t-130" data-t="130">need to understand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-131" data-t="131">that if they are to live by the sword of attempting to wield the pedophilic ruling class against their political</span> <span class="cue" id="t-138" data-t="138">opponents,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-139" data-t="139">they may indeed die by the sword as they themselves are failing their own legal purity tests.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-146">2:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Phil Moore Katz</b> <span class="cue" id="t-146" data-t="146">Terrorizing the plebs for your own political goals is immoral,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-150" data-t="150">but also in this case likely illegal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-153" data-t="153">I would encourage individuals to quit amplifying the ones shouting fire as you could be unintentionally</span> <span class="cue" id="t-160" data-t="160">breaking the law, but also unintentionally</span> <span class="cue" id="t-163" data-t="163">hurting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-164" data-t="164">and scaring the plebs.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-166">2:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Phil Moore Katz</b> <span class="cue" id="t-166" data-t="166">With the introduction of the Bitcoin strategic reserve, this issue becomes even more legally dangerous,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-172" data-t="172">as shouting fire in the theater and inciting mobs of angry plebs could be interpreted as threats to national security.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-180" data-t="180">I have answered this question pro bono as I know the bugle journalists</span> <span class="cue" id="t-184" data-t="184">spend all their money on cigarettes, and I was interested in this topic.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-189" data-t="189">If you would like to have your legal questions answered,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-192" data-t="192">you can reach out to me at the Jewish law firm Katz and Goldberg, where you can talk to me for just a small amount of $5,000</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-201">3:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Phil Moore Katz</b> <span class="cue" id="t-201" data-t="201">an hour.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-202" data-t="202">Remember that when it comes to law, the Jewish lawyers always win. Have a good day folks, and enjoy the podcast.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-210">3:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-210" data-t="210">In 1954,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-213" data-t="213">a 25 year old man changed the world forever.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-218" data-t="218">Doctors and scientists thought it was impossible</span> <span class="cue" id="t-221" data-t="221">to run a mile</span> <span class="cue" id="t-223" data-t="223">faster than four minutes but those theories</span> <span class="cue" id="t-226" data-t="226">were disproven by Roger Bannister.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-229">3:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-229" data-t="229">What followed immediately</span> <span class="cue" id="t-231" data-t="231">after was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-232" data-t="232">many individuals being able to accomplish what was once seen as an impossible goal and ever since according to Wikipedia, which probably isn't accurate,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-242" data-t="242">over 2,000 athletes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-244" data-t="244">have beat that goal of a four minute mile.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-249" data-t="249">When people believe something is possible,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-254">4:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-254" data-t="254">things happen.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-255" data-t="255">But oftentimes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-257" data-t="257">it takes an individual who is crazy enough to endeavor on what many people believed was impossible.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-265" data-t="265">And folks,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-266" data-t="266">the pioneer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-267" data-t="267">is that individual.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-269">4:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-269" data-t="269">And if you're listening to this episode, you are likely a pioneer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-274" data-t="274">because the plebs don't get it. The plebs want plebs slop. They want</span> <span class="cue" id="t-280" data-t="280">stuff that could be spoon fed to them that is just lazy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-283" data-t="283">It's boring.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-285" data-t="285">That anybody can understand.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-287" data-t="287">Anybody without a brain. Anybody that has not been listening to forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts a year</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-294">4:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-294" data-t="294">or sorry, a week</span> <span class="cue" id="t-295" data-t="295">can understand.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-298" data-t="298">And we don't want to give that to you. I don't want to give that to you. I want</span> <span class="cue" id="t-302" data-t="302">to give you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-304" data-t="304">the best thing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-305" data-t="305">possible</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-306">5:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-306" data-t="306">that's out there. We recently went on the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-311" data-t="311">the TikCoin podcast with Walker.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-313" data-t="313">And I talked about that a little bit.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-315" data-t="315">Why am I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-317" data-t="317">making the content that I'm making? It's because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-320" data-t="320">it's the content that I want, the content that I value and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-324">5:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-324" data-t="324">folks, I appreciate you. But to start off the episode,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-327" data-t="327">I just want to say,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-330" data-t="330">I'm doing this because I believe in you. I believe in our audience. I believe in the people that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-336" data-t="336">listen to this, that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-338" data-t="338">your time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-341" data-t="341">is being well used by listening to this.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-344">5:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-344" data-t="344">I believe that my time is being well used making this type of content for you because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-352" data-t="352">for you to get it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-355" data-t="355">you have to do the work. You have to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-357" data-t="357">This is like Rod coined a long time ago on this show. This is the podcast for the person that listens to forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts a week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-369" data-t="369">I believe in you. In the world, I guess one of the things I want to start this episode off, you know, why I mentioned Roger Bannister</span> <span class="cue" id="t-377" data-t="377">off the bat is the world needs good examples.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-380">6:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-380" data-t="380">It needs people with self respect. It needs people like the characters that Ayn Rand described in Alice Shrugged and The Fountainhead.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-388" data-t="388">It needs people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-391" data-t="391">that have the self</span> <span class="cue" id="t-392" data-t="392">awareness and dignity to smoke cigarettes and tell fuck you or put up their middle fingers to the no smoking signs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-401" data-t="401">to create the world that they want to live in.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-404" data-t="404">And right now, what we're seeing is the plebs are grumpy</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-409">6:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-409" data-t="409">and they're just trying to tear things down. They're highlighting the bad examples. They're complaining about Ethereum and Vitalik. They're complaining about David Bailey. They're complaining about,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-420" data-t="420">you know, whatever it is. They're highlighting all the bad examples and they're not putting enough effort into</span> <span class="cue" id="t-427" data-t="427">showing the good examples. So we need good examples</span> <span class="cue" id="t-431" data-t="431">and to highlight those</span> <span class="cue" id="t-433" data-t="433">because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-435" data-t="435">we're not going to get out of this fourth turning unless you believe in yourself</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-440">7:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-440" data-t="440">and you believe in other people.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-442" data-t="442">This is how we get out. This is how we create good times again, folks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-446" data-t="446">Is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-447" data-t="447">believing in people that have the capacity to do very good things and supporting them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-453" data-t="453">That's why the intellectual silk road exists. That's why things like the mesh of the Ungovernable Misfits</span> <span class="cue" id="t-460" data-t="460">has created</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-462">7:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-462" data-t="462">exist.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-464" data-t="464">Collaborating with the good examples in the world. Rod, how are you doing today? What are you feeling? This is this is the mistake</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-472">7:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-472" data-t="472">or at least to a common mistake that people make is they they focus on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-477" data-t="477">the people who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-480" data-t="480">are macro,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-482" data-t="482">TikTok macro. They focus on people with price charts, price models, rainbow price models, comparing the m two money</span> <span class="cue" id="t-489" data-t="489">chart, comparing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-490" data-t="490">the, you know, the 2,017</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-492">8:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-492" data-t="492">cycle based on the hash rate in the lineup of the charts and like the manipulation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-497" data-t="497">of the X Y axis.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-499" data-t="499">And they say, follow this chart, and this is what Bitcoin price is gonna do in the next six months. And the problem with that is it's just such high time preference. It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-508" data-t="508">hard to be a good example</span> <span class="cue" id="t-510" data-t="510">when you're obsessed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-512" data-t="512">with price predictions.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-513">8:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-513" data-t="513">It's hard to be a good example. And so many people start a Bitcoin podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-518" data-t="518">and they try to be a good example. They're not trying to be a bad example. They're trying to be a good example, but then they get they get lost in the sauce. They get lost in the incentives of their ad, their sponsors, and they get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-529" data-t="529">lost in trying to predict, you know, that if Bitcoin's gonna go to 250,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-534" data-t="534">this year, or is it gonna go to 1,000,000 this cycle?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-537" data-t="537">And they're proven wrong over and again, and it it just makes it really hard to be a good example.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-542" data-t="542">And that's what we're not trying to be.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-545">9:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-545" data-t="545">If you want</span> <span class="cue" id="t-547" data-t="547">slop,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-548" data-t="548">if you want TikTok macro, if you want that goo goo gaga</span> <span class="cue" id="t-552" data-t="552">plexlop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-553" data-t="553">from Bitcoin University,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-556" data-t="556">we're just not gonna be the right podcast for you.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-561">9:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-561" data-t="561">We're trying to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-564" data-t="564">show better examples, but being a Bitcoin podcaster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-567" data-t="567">is that opportunity to lower your time preference</span> <span class="cue" id="t-570" data-t="570">enough</span> <span class="cue" id="t-571" data-t="571">that you can be a good example</span> <span class="cue" id="t-573" data-t="573">to pledge and pioneers alike.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-577">9:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-577" data-t="577">So, yeah, you know, and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-579" data-t="579">you go back to to Bannister, you go back to the four minute mile.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-584" data-t="584">She she made people believe in themselves that they could break that if he could do it, they could do it. And it wasn't until,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-591" data-t="591">barely a decade later that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-593" data-t="593">Americans</span> <span class="cue" id="t-595" data-t="595">believed that taxpayers believed that we could make it to the moo, that we could go to the moot. And we did it because we believed in ourselves, but somewhere</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-603">10:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-603" data-t="603">after breaking the gold standard and going into the Vietnam war,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-607" data-t="607">we, we started to feel demoralized and we stopped believing in ourselves.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-612" data-t="612">And we just started chasing lower interest rates and just easy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-617" data-t="617">real estate, just these fiat examples</span> <span class="cue" id="t-619" data-t="619">of, of success.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-621" data-t="621">And we demoralized ourselves with it. And now we have a chance</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-626">10:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-626" data-t="626">because somewhere it switched, somewhere the fourth turning began.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-630" data-t="630">And there was somebody out there, you know, Pfizer did not want or believe anybody could listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast per week</span> <span class="cue" id="t-638" data-t="638">in one week, let alone</span> <span class="cue" id="t-640" data-t="640">until somebody did.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-642" data-t="642">And now thousands</span> <span class="cue" id="t-644" data-t="644">of people,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-646">10:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-646" data-t="646">maybe tens of thousands, are listening to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast per week. And we are starting to believe in ourselves</span> <span class="cue" id="t-653" data-t="653">again. And we're starting to make our communities</span> <span class="cue" id="t-657" data-t="657">believe in ourselves again.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-660" data-t="660">And the only way to keep</span> <span class="cue" id="t-662" data-t="662">the answer is forty hour. We need to figure out who the first person was to listen to forty hours per week because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-669" data-t="669">that's a good example.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-671">11:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-671" data-t="671">The person who does listen to forty hours per week, your neighbor, your uncle, aunt Noster, that's a good example. We need to get them on podcasts.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-681">11:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-681" data-t="681">Do you actually believe that that humans went to the moon?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-685" data-t="685">I feel like that's borderline antisemitic.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-689">11:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-689" data-t="689">I believe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-691" data-t="691">that America believes they could go to the moon and that Americans believe they did go to the moon.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-697" data-t="697">And I think if you believe in yourself,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-700" data-t="700">it, whether, you know, whether you actually succeed, it's like you aim for the moon. Even if you fail, you land amongst the stars.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-707" data-t="707">I think just the, if you believe in yourself and that you did it and that you can do it, like, that's good enough.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-714">11:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-714" data-t="714">The reason why I say it's borderline antisemitic is because I think Americans believing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-719" data-t="719">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-720" data-t="720">they went to the moon is really an example</span> <span class="cue" id="t-723" data-t="723">of how</span> <span class="cue" id="t-727" data-t="727">good Jewish movie producers are at creating compelling stories.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-734" data-t="734">Who was it that, allegedly</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-737">12:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-737" data-t="737">Did you see that movie that came out recently, Fly Me to the Moon with Lady Gaga</span> <span class="cue" id="t-741" data-t="741">or Scarlett Johansson?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-743" data-t="743">One of those hot blonde women. I didn't see</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-746">12:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-746" data-t="746">that one.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-747">12:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-747" data-t="747">It was about,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-750" data-t="750">it was an interesting movie. I mean, it felt like it was a psyop where they essentially admitted,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-758" data-t="758">you know, in Hollywood that they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-761" data-t="761">faked the moon landing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-763" data-t="763">video, but they did that in case they failed to go to the moon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-767" data-t="767">to,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-768">12:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-768" data-t="768">sign up the Russians either way. But there was a conspiracy to actually showcase the real footage instead of the fake footage.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-776" data-t="776">It was an interesting movie.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-778" data-t="778">Yeah. I mean, if you're upset,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-782" data-t="782">my personal opinion,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-784" data-t="784">if you're upset about Gaza, if you're upset about the Jews, you're upset about the Israelis,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-789" data-t="789">just find the good examples because there's some good Jews out there. Like, I want good movies</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-794">13:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-794" data-t="794">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-795" data-t="795">I don't want to talk about the Jews a ton.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-798" data-t="798">It's kind of getting old. I'm tired of hearing about the Jews.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-803" data-t="803">That bit, I value the Jews.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-805" data-t="805">If you want good law</span> <span class="cue" id="t-808" data-t="808">commentary,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-808">13:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" data-t="808">you need the Jews. You need good Jewish lawyers. But,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-813">13:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-813" data-t="813">Yeah. My, my, my thing was, guys, if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-816" data-t="816">I'm listening to forty hours per week and I'm</span> <span class="cue" id="t-819" data-t="819">making Bitcoin podcasts because I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-822" data-t="822">that, if we had Bitcoin podcast, there wouldn't have been a holocaust. So I think that if we continue to listen and to broadcast signal, that will that's what how we will I don't know if we can prevent another holocaust, but we're doing our part. You know what I mean? We're doing our part to stop the next holocaust. And I think if you can't be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-839" data-t="839">proud of that for us, you know what I mean? It's like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-843" data-t="843">we're</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-844">14:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-844" data-t="844">one man can only do so much, and I'm doing a podcast. I think that is the best I could do.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-850" data-t="850">That's all. That's all you can ask of me.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-854">14:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-854" data-t="854">I mean, a Bitcoin podcast is significantly more productive than a lot of things. That's for sure.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-860" data-t="860">A lot of people waste their energy on unproductive things</span> <span class="cue" id="t-863" data-t="863">And that that's one of the keys to success in life is just figuring out what the most productive activity is.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-870">14:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-870" data-t="870">You look at a lot of these YouTube comment. Thirty hours per week. That's that's that's that's what forty hours per week comes from. You have a scarce amount of time. And if you listen to forty hours per week, you are a demonstrator. You are showing people that you don't have time to waste.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-883" data-t="883">You are an efficient you spend your time efficiently. So if you find yourself arguing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-888" data-t="888">on spaces when you could be listening to forty hours, that's just that's the measuring step.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-894">14:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-894" data-t="894">Yeah. Arguing on spaces instead of podcasting for sure.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-899" data-t="899">I did some, talking on spaces. I did a space with, Shinobi and Frank Korva,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-906" data-t="906">this week. There was a lot of controversy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-908" data-t="908">generated.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-909" data-t="909">I believe it was was it on Friday?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-912" data-t="912">Thursday or Friday,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-914">15:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-914" data-t="914">when, Lowell Leeds put out her her</span> <span class="cue" id="t-917" data-t="917">article.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-918" data-t="918">That was pretty controversial.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-920">15:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-920" data-t="920">That was Thursday. Yeah. Thursday evening, that one dropped. And that was, that was buzzing. I mean, yeah, like you were there's multiple spaces.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-928" data-t="928">You guys were probably one of the highest signal spaces of the evening.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-933" data-t="933">A lot of memes have come out since then. A lot of accusations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-936" data-t="936">have come out since then.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-939" data-t="939">People arguing about journalists having sex, like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-942" data-t="942">where, how do we entangle</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-944">15:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-944" data-t="944">the fallout?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-948">15:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-948" data-t="948">I think we untangle it by just admitting that there's nuance.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-952" data-t="952">You can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-954" data-t="954">disagree with Lola</span> <span class="cue" id="t-958" data-t="958">about some</span> <span class="cue" id="t-961" data-t="961">of the headline</span> <span class="cue" id="t-963" data-t="963">and disagree with her about where she was trying to take the</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-967">16:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-967" data-t="967">direction of the article about the conclusions. But I think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-971" data-t="971">you know, the I've been incredibly disappointed with people on Twitter and especially Luke because Luke was, you know, the one that started the ball rolling on this that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-982" data-t="982">Lola was Shinobi's girlfriend and that was her motivation for the article. That that's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-987" data-t="987">that's really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-990" data-t="990">a silly theory because we all know that Shinobi doesn't have a girlfriend.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-995" data-t="995">I think it's pretty clear.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-997">16:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-997" data-t="997">It's pretty self evident. If you look at his Twitter activity, like how much he's on spaces, he very clearly isn't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1004" data-t="1004">in any sort of relationship. Like, here at the Bugle, for a very long time, we've been trying to help Shinobi find a girlfriend.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1012" data-t="1012">We've been talking about this pretty frequently.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1015" data-t="1015">I think you and I both agree we think it should be D plus plus They're a good match for each other. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1023" data-t="1023">Lola, I don't think likes anime</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1026" data-t="1026">enough to be in a relationship with Shinobi.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1030">17:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1030" data-t="1030">She'd probably get pretty perturbed with him after</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1034">17:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1034" data-t="1034">People's evidence</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1035" data-t="1035">that they claim, you know, like that Lola is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1039" data-t="1039">Shelby's girlfriend is that he they did a search in Twitter and and Shelby's never called Lola retarded.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1045" data-t="1045">But we've covered this, the Beulah's covered this, that Shinobi</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1050" data-t="1050">does not call any girls retarded because he's trying to be the nice guy and trying to to have a girlfriend.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1056" data-t="1056">And that's one of the things we're trying to help Shelby with is like, sometimes you have to call girls retarded because it's, you know, it's,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1064">17:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1064" data-t="1064">you just gotta change your approach.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1067" data-t="1067">Yeah. I mean, it's really silly. Like Shinobi never called Stop simping. Stop simping, Shinobi. That's what we're telling. That's what you're trying to tell him. But he doesn't he will not listen to us and he knows he's ashamed of he's not he is not ashamed of it. That's the problem.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1079">17:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1079" data-t="1079">Well, Shinobi's never called Lynn Alden retarded. Does that mean that Lynn Alden is Shinobi's girlfriend? It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1085" data-t="1085">like we could probably find a lot of women out there that he's never called retarded. If that's the justification</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1092" data-t="1092">of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1094" data-t="1094">him being in a relationship with them, it's rather</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1098">18:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1098" data-t="1098">it's rather silly. I have, I have sent Shinobi</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1102" data-t="1102">in the DMS. I have sent him Natalie Brunel,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1105" data-t="1105">tweets to get him</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1108" data-t="1108">to call Natalie Brunel retarded because I, and I could feel him. You could see like the little bubbles when they were like, says somebody's typing or somebody's responding and you could just see it. It was going for like five minutes and then it would stop and it'd go back and shinobi, he, but he, at the end of the day, shinobi just said, you know, that's an interesting perspective. He wouldn't call a retarded. So he's just, he doesn't have it in it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1131">18:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1131" data-t="1131">I think there's a lot of orange shells out there that really feel intimidated by a woman,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1136" data-t="1136">just engaging in the conversation in general. I think that's why there's been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1140" data-t="1140">a giant lash out against Lola.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1143" data-t="1143">That has been unfair.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1145" data-t="1145">Like I said, you can criticize her,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1147" data-t="1147">but you got a hot woman journalist</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1151">19:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1151" data-t="1151">coming out here</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1153" data-t="1153">and steamrolling your religious</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1155" data-t="1155">ideology</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1157" data-t="1157">and making you question things. And I think the cognitive dissonance that comes up, they're like, Fuck.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1164" data-t="1164">Like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1165" data-t="1165">maybe I need to think twice</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1168">19:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1168" data-t="1168">about the stuff, all the grumpiness I've been directing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1172" data-t="1172">And a woman made me think about it. Holy fuck. And she's hot. And I, but, you know, here's here's where I think</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1179">19:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1179" data-t="1179">fair,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1180" data-t="1180">improper criticism of Lowe's article,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1183" data-t="1183">may come in, right? Think about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1186" data-t="1186">if a woman saw any of our,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1190" data-t="1190">our DMs, if your wife saw your DMs with her buddies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1193" data-t="1193">she saw the memes and the group chats that you were sharing with your buddies.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1199">19:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1199" data-t="1199">She would she would freak out. She'd be like, holy shit. My husband is is crazy. My husband's like, she's talking about forking Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1207" data-t="1207">I can't believe my husband is talking to other men in group chats</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1211" data-t="1211">about forking Bitcoin right now, but we, we, we're all guilty of it. We're all guilty of sharing extreme</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1219" data-t="1219">ideas and memes and, and, and things about Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1223" data-t="1223">And he, so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1225" data-t="1225">when Lova put, you know, her headline was like screeching Luke</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1229">20:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1229" data-t="1229">dash is, is, is talking about forking Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1232" data-t="1232">It's, you know, that's like, it'd be like your wife telling her friends</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1236" data-t="1236">about the DMs she saw when you left your phone open, she saw you talking about for ridiculous. It's just, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1243" data-t="1243">we shouldn't cancel people over group chat talk. It's like locker room talk. It's like, it's just what guys transact adversarially. That's what we do. That's what we talk about. We talk about attacking Bitcoin in private, not in public.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1259" data-t="1259">He's so, you know, it's it's hard to read it too much into this and to really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1263" data-t="1263">accuse Luke Junior of doing anything that any of us haven't talked about doing in the past.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1268">21:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1268" data-t="1268">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1269" data-t="1269">That's a good point. I mean, I've talked about forking Bitcoin in the past.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1274" data-t="1274">I I I've talked about it but I haven't created a army of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1280" data-t="1280">angry plebs to follow me and try to make it some sort of economically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1284" data-t="1284">viable thing. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1286" data-t="1286">yeah, we don't have the context and I think that's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1290">21:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1290" data-t="1290">one of the important things here. But what I have been really disappointed in, I did a whole lot of or a whole long thread about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1299" data-t="1299">it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1300" data-t="1300">about the criticisms</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1301" data-t="1301">just being really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1303" data-t="1303">deranged and unfair and Tomer is one of them. You know, I expect</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1308" data-t="1308">so much better from a man</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1311">21:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1311" data-t="1311">with 70,000 Twitter followers and humility in his Twitter bio</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1316" data-t="1316">than to go out there and and and decry the institution of journalism and say that it's non existent. I mean, it's like either you're fucking retarded or you're blind or you're a liar, Tomer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1327" data-t="1327">Those are like the three options. And and I give it I'll give you the benefit of a doubt. Like, it might have been a misstep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1334" data-t="1334">You might have been emotional. Like, it it's it's hard when you put so much effort</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1339" data-t="1339">and and time into defending</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1342" data-t="1342">somebody and then your your faith in them is is questioned.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1347">22:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1347" data-t="1347">Like it's hard, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1349" data-t="1349">to go and try and undermine journalism, it is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1352" data-t="1352">you know, a bad look for somebody that has humility</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1356" data-t="1356">in your Twitter bio. Come on, dude.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1360">22:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1360" data-t="1360">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1361" data-t="1361">listen,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1363" data-t="1363">if you don't know much about Tomer, he he's a boomer. You know, Tomer is a boomer hippie. He is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1369" data-t="1369">he had, he bought Bitcoin quite a while ago.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1372" data-t="1372">So he's just reliving</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1374" data-t="1374">the glory days of Woodstock. He's constantly</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1377">22:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1377" data-t="1377">wearing a cowboy hat, taking acid. He's really stoned. He's just sitting on, on spaces all day, talking about poetry and Satoshi and him and Crater. They talk about writing concertos</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1389" data-t="1389">and symphonies.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1392" data-t="1392">But, you know, even if you're just gonna get stoned</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1394" data-t="1394">and, and goof around and judge people on spaces all day,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1399" data-t="1399">you can still</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1401" data-t="1401">find good journalism. You can still find the truth. You can still</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1406">23:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1406" data-t="1406">get to the bottom of things. Look at mister Hottle. Mister Hottle is the same way. He just sits at home and gets stoned and argues and and teases and antagonizes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1413" data-t="1413">plaids all day, just like Tellamer does.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1416" data-t="1416">But mister Hottle still can can see can find good journalism.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1421" data-t="1421">He</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1422" data-t="1422">we're still trying to get him to listen to Bitcoin podcast, but he seems to at least understand the importance of them. Whereas Telomer just pretends they don't exist because he's living in his, you know, LSD,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1432" data-t="1432">you know, Beatles Alice in Wonderland</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1434">23:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1434" data-t="1434">timeline on his outer</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1438">23:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1438" data-t="1438">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1439" data-t="1439">I mean, this is one of the problems. Like if you go to Bitcoin University and you listen to Matthew Crowder and he's your source of news as a deranged</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1449" data-t="1449">on, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1450" data-t="1450">the reason why Crowder thinks he can teach</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1455" data-t="1455">is because he can't do anything.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1457" data-t="1457">That's why he became a university professor. Those who can't do, teach. But the problem with Crowder is he doesn't have the self awareness of realizing that he should be teaching gym class.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1467">24:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1467" data-t="1467">Like, he's not even good at teaching</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1469">24:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1469" data-t="1469">in general. Exactly. And think about think about like Robert Reich</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1473" data-t="1473">or like these Harvard, Ivy League, Libtard</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1477" data-t="1477">economists. And they they tried to say that Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1481" data-t="1481">and all these other pioneers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1483" data-t="1483">of AI and in in industry who did the most value, I mean, richest people in the world,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1489" data-t="1489">they</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1489">24:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" data-t="1489">for better or worse.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1492" data-t="1492">But the person lecturing about them the whole time, what then, like, the the people in the Ivy League professors, the economists,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1499" data-t="1499">the chain zean economists,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1501" data-t="1501">they</span> <span class="cue" data-t="1501">just they just talk about theory and they try to be professors</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1505" data-t="1505">because they keep they don't have a solutions. They don't they aren't good examples</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1509">25:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1509" data-t="1509">of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1511" data-t="1511">how we're going to, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1513" data-t="1513">know, get into hyper Bitcoinization.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1516">25:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1516" data-t="1516">They don't listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast a week. They don't have a fucking clue what's going on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1522" data-t="1522">and they don't have the self awareness to think that they have a clue and they've amassed these following so that they think that because they have followers on Twitter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1529" data-t="1529">that they're important and that anything that they're saying is relevant and what they fail to realize is that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1536" data-t="1536">having a bunch of Twitter followers doesn't mean shit because the majority of politics or sorry, the majority of the population is just retarded plug cannon fodder that has no clue what's going on in the first place. And also doesn't listen to forty hours of Bitcoin podcast a week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1550" data-t="1550">It's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1551">25:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1551" data-t="1551">a trading courses, trading courses on how to trade mining stocks</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1555" data-t="1555">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1556" data-t="1556">how to, how to, how to, how to momentum trade Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1560" data-t="1560">at your university trader university or Bitcoin university. Like that's not how</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1564" data-t="1564">we win</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1566">26:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1566" data-t="1566">trading mining stocks in is the how we win. It's pretty funny though. It's pretty funny to watch these guys just,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1573" data-t="1573">like Tomer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1575" data-t="1575">Just look really bad.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1577" data-t="1577">It's entertaining. I mean, I guess it's like one of the things like, you know, everybody has a different way of being entertained in the fourth turning. I think we do need some semblance of bread and circuses</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1587" data-t="1587">to just keep</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1589" data-t="1589">sane. Some people listen to good music. Some people watch good movies made by Jews.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1594">26:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1594" data-t="1594">Some people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1597" data-t="1597">just engage in the in the pep slop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1600" data-t="1600">and watch</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1603" data-t="1603">watch bad takes left and right. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1607" data-t="1607">I,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1608" data-t="1608">I do enjoy being a fly on the wall for some of the pep slop. It is getting impressive at this point.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1616">26:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1616" data-t="1616">Europe is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1619" data-t="1619">they've got their own problems. They're not too worried about the Nazi versus the communist</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1624" data-t="1624">conflicts right now is pretty Us based,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1629" data-t="1629">conflict.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1630" data-t="1630">Everybody's trying to worry about the US government, how they're gonna treat our nodes, but Europe, they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1636" data-t="1636">seems like NATO and Russia.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1639">27:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1639" data-t="1639">I mean, Ukraine, they said Ukraine has some of the most Bitcoin of any country in the world. That didn't stop the war with Russia, that's for sure.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1648">27:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1648" data-t="1648">Yeah. There's this reoccurring issue where, you know, for a long time, Bitcoin podcasters have been talking about how,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1655" data-t="1655">Bitcoin defunds the state</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1658" data-t="1658">and will make war impossible</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1661" data-t="1661">as these countries continue to develop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1665" data-t="1665">Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1666" data-t="1666">reserves</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1667">27:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1667" data-t="1667">and increase their Bitcoin balances.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1670" data-t="1670">It seems like war is only propelling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1675" data-t="1675">further. Jason Lowry talked a lot about software. It seems like we're moving more towards</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1681" data-t="1681">a reality of hard war</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1683" data-t="1683">as kind of concerning.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1685" data-t="1685">I'm concerned for our friends in Europe right now,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1690">28:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1690" data-t="1690">for our friends that are European Bitcoin podcasters. I mean, there's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1694" data-t="1694">a lot of attacks on all fronts. There's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1698" data-t="1698">their governments are being super gay</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1700" data-t="1700">in Orwellian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1701" data-t="1701">and they're arresting people for making memes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1704" data-t="1704">and they're locking down the information channels. Is this something we're seeing in The US too?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1711">28:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1711" data-t="1711">But it seems a little bit I mean, what more can you expect from the Epstein client list?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1717" data-t="1717">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1718" data-t="1718">it seems like it's very intense in Europe right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1722" data-t="1722">And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1727">28:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1727" data-t="1727">There's, there's kind of a theme, at least that crosses</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1730" data-t="1730">The United States</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1733" data-t="1733">and kind of all the rest of the world. Nepal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1735" data-t="1735">just had a revolution.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1737" data-t="1737">And I I've heard about this and I don't know if it's true, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1742" data-t="1742">it's a problem in Poland as well. The broccoli haircuts wanna go to war.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1747">29:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1747" data-t="1747">The broccoli haircuts. I've been sharing a lot of crusade memes. The broccoli haircuts have been watching a lot of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1754" data-t="1754">you know, Mick Fuentes, right wing TikTok,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1759" data-t="1759">and the ready for war. I mean, they're, they're, they're shooting their favorite podcasters.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1763" data-t="1763">They're exploiting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1765" data-t="1765">the memories</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1766" data-t="1766">of their favorite podcasters</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1767">29:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1767" data-t="1767">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1768" data-t="1768">continue the, you know, demoralizing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1771" data-t="1771">policies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1772" data-t="1772">that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1774" data-t="1774">the podcasters stood against.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1777" data-t="1777">And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1778">29:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1778" data-t="1778">they're ready for war. They're ready to tear things down. And if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1782" data-t="1782">in Poland, the broccoli haircuts are gearing to go fight to communists,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1786" data-t="1786">you know, the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1787" data-t="1787">it's not really the communist Russia, but it's like, that's the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1791" data-t="1791">like, cultural energy is like the Soviet Union, you know, really oppressed the Polish people and the Russians oppress the Polish in some in a lot of ways,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1800" data-t="1800">and they're ready to go fight back and they're ready to fight back here against the communists. They're ready to fight back in a lot of place</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1807">30:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1807" data-t="1807">against the enemy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1809" data-t="1809">It's so it's a perilous situation. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1812" data-t="1812">a one drone and that they go in the wrong way or blown up the wrong building could really spark,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1819" data-t="1819">the next world war</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1821" data-t="1821">to be a little hyperbolic,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1823" data-t="1823">but maybe not,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1824">30:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1824" data-t="1824">in Europe right now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1827">30:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1827" data-t="1827">Yeah. The internet's running around throwing their articles, force around like it's nothing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1833" data-t="1833">It's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1835" data-t="1835">it is a very alarming</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1837" data-t="1837">situation. And I know like the the other thing that I think is really interesting about it is it doesn't seem like the the Fiat media is talking about it a whole lot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1846" data-t="1846">I I don't follow it a ton,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1849" data-t="1849">but you think that</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1851">30:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1851" data-t="1851">they would be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1853" data-t="1853">a little bit more hyperbolic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1855" data-t="1855">about the situation and it seems like they're not.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1858" data-t="1858">And I don't know why</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1861">31:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1861" data-t="1861">that is. Well, they spent they spent the last few years being too hyperbolic about it and, and lying about how many people have died and lying about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1871" data-t="1871">how gruesome and terrible it's been for the Ukrainian side, maybe exaggerating it on the Russian side, but I don't think really capturing it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1880" data-t="1880">to the full extent of like how</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1883" data-t="1883">devastating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1884" data-t="1884">this has been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1886" data-t="1886">to</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1887">31:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1887" data-t="1887">a very deeply</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1889" data-t="1889">historical</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1891" data-t="1891">group of people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1893" data-t="1893">who've, who've really been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1896" data-t="1896">at each other's throats more or less, but like it's millions, millions of casualties.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1902" data-t="1902">And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1904">31:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1904" data-t="1904">they never talked about any of that. They just, they, they, they showed Ben Aflac and celebrities and people flew to Ukraine, Ukraine, flags in the front yards and put it in their profiles and they they felt good about themselves because they were supporting what they thought was a good cause.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1919" data-t="1919">And we realized it was all bullshit. So now the media has no credibility anymore. So now when something really, really serious is unfolding, we're at the precipice</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1929" data-t="1929">of some sort of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1931" data-t="1931">catastrophic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1932" data-t="1932">or cataclysmic event that changes the the history of Bitcoin podcasts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1937" data-t="1937">forever.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1939">32:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1939" data-t="1939">Nobody's going to believe the media when they try to report on it or be hyperbolic about it because they've already wasted their credibility.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1946" data-t="1946">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1947" data-t="1947">there's really no</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1950" data-t="1950">way for the immune system</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1952" data-t="1952">to work itself out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1955" data-t="1955">in a in a in the event of a psyop or it's something really is about to happen. Yeah. It's interesting. I mean, I think one of the strategies that the</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1964">32:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1964" data-t="1964">the media uses is they wait for something cataclysmic.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1968" data-t="1968">Oftentimes like these events that happen that are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1972" data-t="1972">really dramatic or telegraphed for a while, if you're paying attention to it. Like say for example,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1978" data-t="1978">Bill Cooper predicted nineeleven</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1981" data-t="1981">well before it happened, right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1983" data-t="1983">It was like the CIA</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1985">33:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1985" data-t="1985">is in bed with this Bin Laden guy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1987" data-t="1987">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1990" data-t="1990">something bad, some sort of terrorist attack is going to happen and the state's going</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1995" data-t="1995">to bring in something akin to the Patriot Act.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1998" data-t="1998">You know, if you're paying attention, like a lot of stuff is Telegraph, but I think one of the ways that they like to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2003" data-t="2003">you know, influence the the pleb cannon fodder</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2007">33:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2007" data-t="2007">and get to where they want to is they they don't talk about the situation. Then when it happens, it's the only thing that they talk about and they feel like they present as if it came out of left field. Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2017" data-t="2017">oh,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2019" data-t="2019">they use the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2021" data-t="2021">emotional</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2022" data-t="2022">shock and awe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2023" data-t="2023">to scare the plaids. And now the plaids are like, oh, I'm terrified. They're like, I didn't see this coming. Wow. This person's so crazy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2031">33:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2031" data-t="2031">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2032" data-t="2032">I'll I'll just, you know, it's time to sacrifice our children to Moloch and and get back to safety.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2040" data-t="2040">That's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2042" data-t="2042">Maybe that's why</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2045" data-t="2045">You know, because when something</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2047" data-t="2047">scary happens and people are blindsided by it,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2051">34:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2051" data-t="2051">they forget about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2053" data-t="2053">that distrust in the media. They forget that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2057" data-t="2057">these guys have been lying to them for a long time and they just are glued to their TVs like, oh, I wanna see what's happening. I wanna monitor the situation. I'm gonna trust,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2066" data-t="2066">the network television talking head again,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2069" data-t="2069">because they're playing videos of the situation or, you know, they're they're posting tweets on Twitter or, you know, whatever</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2076" data-t="2076">it is.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2077">34:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2077" data-t="2077">So I wonder if this is the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2080" data-t="2080">type of situation where we're in the calm before the store the media storm.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2086">34:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2086" data-t="2086">Here's the problem.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2088" data-t="2088">Because the media's lost that legitimacy, even if people can't talk about that, even if they don't,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2093" data-t="2093">aren't cognizant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2094" data-t="2094">of it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2096" data-t="2096">consciously,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2097" data-t="2097">that cognitive dissonance</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2099">34:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2099" data-t="2099">has built up. So the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2102" data-t="2102">now the media shows videos</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2105" data-t="2105">of feds and police,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2108" data-t="2108">you know, beating up antifa parents and throwing them on the sidewalk</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2112" data-t="2112">for, you know, getting in their face and screaming libtard, loads of TikTok shit at them. And they're saying that that's fascist.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2120" data-t="2120">And people are like, damn. I I felt really good watching that fucking idiot, that communist get pushed to the ground</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2127">35:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2127" data-t="2127">by a fucking federal agent.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2129" data-t="2129">That's fast. I they start you're showing examples</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2133" data-t="2133">of things that are not fascism,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2136" data-t="2136">but are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2137" data-t="2137">just you you're making fascism look cool. And that's what I the the problem I said</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2141" data-t="2141">on other podcast. If somebody calls you a fascist, that just means that they think you're handsome. Because if you're Sydney Sweeney or you're somebody hot and they put you on an ad, they're like, that's fascist.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2152">35:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2152" data-t="2152">They're too handsome. You're too, you're too in, you're too in good shape. You're too fascist. You're you're too,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2158" data-t="2158">you work out, you have a healthy diet. You're a fascist.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2161" data-t="2161">You're hot. You're a fascist.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2163" data-t="2163">You wear a suit and you're successful. You're a fascist.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2166" data-t="2166">You arrest criminals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2168" data-t="2168">and put people in jail when they're fucking</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2171">36:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2171" data-t="2171">trying to to wreak havoc in society,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2174" data-t="2174">that makes you a fascist. And so people start to attribute all these things to fascism</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2179" data-t="2179">and that's when fascism actually happens, when everybody's on the same page and it just becomes vitriolic.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2187" data-t="2187">The uniform, the machine turns itself</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2190" data-t="2190">on an enemy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2192" data-t="2192">and that's what fascism is. But when you call all of these things that should just be a natural part of society,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2198">36:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2198" data-t="2198">of criminal justice, of taking care of yourself, and when you demonize it and call it fascist, you create the fascist machinery.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2205" data-t="2205">And that is what we're seeing happen. We're less that's what it feels like the risk is accumulating when they say this this is fascism. It's the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2216" data-t="2216">but nobody believes them because they've been too hyperbolic.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2219" data-t="2219">So everybody just thinks, oh, this is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2221" data-t="2221">not really a bad thing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2224" data-t="2224">This is just how it should be.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2226">37:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2226" data-t="2226">Yeah. I think it's a pretty dangerous situation to be trying to frame the conversation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2231" data-t="2231">as if,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2232" data-t="2232">fascism's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2233" data-t="2233">cool.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2234" data-t="2234">I think looking to reject that at all,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2239" data-t="2239">because like, you know, guys, like, you know, I know</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2242">37:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2242" data-t="2242">when it's scary,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2246" data-t="2246">people want safety, right? When things are scary, you wanna feel safe, you wanna be secure. Like this is why all the people sacrificed their children to Moloch during COVID and gave their children vaccines even though it was kind of a retarded idea</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2260" data-t="2260">in the moment,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2261" data-t="2261">thinking about it and retrospectively,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2264" data-t="2264">it looks even more retarded. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2267" data-t="2267">people wanted safety. They wanted to get back to normalcy. They wanted to, you know, the boomers wanted to be able to go to the casino without their masks and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2275">37:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2275" data-t="2275">gamble</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2277" data-t="2277">their social security checks away. They didn't like the lockdowns.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2283" data-t="2283">And they thought</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2284" data-t="2284">the ultimate compliance was the way out, the sacrificing your children to Moloch. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2291" data-t="2291">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2293" data-t="2293">you've</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2294">38:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2294" data-t="2294">read too much Mises. You've read too much Rothbart to know that fascism is cool, that the central planning of the economy is cool, that turning over the keys to the Epstein client list and letting them make unilateral</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2305" data-t="2305">decisions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2306" data-t="2306">in your life is cool.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2308" data-t="2308">None of that's cool.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2311" data-t="2311">Having to struggle day after day to afford your taxes, what's cool about that? Just for them to take your taxes and light it on fire and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2321" data-t="2321">you know, we're we're seeing it, you know, right now where these</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2325">38:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2325" data-t="2325">these Russians are launching these cheap drones supposedly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2329" data-t="2329">at all these NATO countries</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2331" data-t="2331">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2332" data-t="2332">you know, they're scrambling jets so they have these like $100,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2336" data-t="2336">you know, actions that are met with multimillions,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2339" data-t="2339">sometimes billion dollar actions.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2342">39:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2342" data-t="2342">It's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2344" data-t="2344">that's why you're struggling to pay your taxes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2347" data-t="2347">You know?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2348" data-t="2348">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2350" data-t="2350">you know, I know it's scary.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2352" data-t="2352">You want you're you're tempted to think that fascism is cool. But</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2357">39:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2357" data-t="2357">like you said, it's like, these these things that are that are normal, that are are good. Like, Sydney Sweeney's hot. That doesn't mean that she's necessarily a fascist.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2366" data-t="2366">She's got nice tits. Nice tits is not fascist.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2370">39:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2370" data-t="2370">This is it gets back to the point of we need better examples.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2376" data-t="2376">Right now,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2378" data-t="2378">the best, if you wanna say, oh, like I said this earlier,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2381" data-t="2381">a good example doesn't mean it's a good thing, a good person. It just means they're a good example of something.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2387" data-t="2387">And right now,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2388" data-t="2388">everybody goes to Hitler and they think this is a good example of fascism.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2393">39:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2393" data-t="2393">And they think, well, Hitler has some pretty good ideas. A lot of broccoli haircuts will say this. All Hitler had some good ideas. He just he his mistake was that he did the Holocaust.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2401" data-t="2401">Some people don't, you know, and they argue about that. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2405" data-t="2405">if that's the if everybody thinks about Hitler as the example of fascism, they're gonna try to recreate fascism the way Hitler did and just say, oh, I'm I'm a broccoli haircut. I respect,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2415" data-t="2415">Jewish people. I'm not intolerant. Solvent of the two fascism without a holocaust.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2420" data-t="2420">But they're emulating Hitler because that's all their memes and their TikTok videos that they watch. And so they they're gonna smate they're gonna make the same mistakes that Hitler did. And so there needs to be somebody who can pioneer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2432" data-t="2432">and do be a better example of fascism. And that's what people are competing for right now. They're trying to be a better example for fascists.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2441">40:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2441" data-t="2441">Yeah. I mean, you can appreciate things about bad people, right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2445" data-t="2445">So Joseph Goebbels, for example, was a great memer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2449" data-t="2449">and you can study his work as a memer and how effective he was at a memer but not necessarily</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2455" data-t="2455">consider him like a good person. Like he was a good example of how to be a good memer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2459" data-t="2459">but he was not a good example of how to be a good person, in my opinion.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2463" data-t="2463">He was</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2464">41:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2464" data-t="2464">a status cog.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2467" data-t="2467">If he was alive today, he wouldn't be listening to Bitcoin podcast. He'd probably be promoting the unilateral</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2472" data-t="2472">rollout of Tether.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2473" data-t="2473">He would see Bitcoin as</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2475" data-t="2475">a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2479" data-t="2479">treasury reserve asset,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2482">41:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2482" data-t="2482">to</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2482">to start more wars or, you know, whatever it is. Like he</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2486" data-t="2486">but he was a good memer and you can you can kind of compartmentalize</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2489" data-t="2489">those things, appreciate things about bad people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2493" data-t="2493">but not</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2495">41:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2495" data-t="2495">see them as good examples of how to, how to necessarily live your life. But, Yeah. He was a good example of an effective memer is maybe a better way to put it. Right. It wasn't a good memer. He was a good example of an effective memer.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2509">41:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2509" data-t="2509">Well, I think he was a good memer. He was good. He was good at memes. I guess good. Not good morally as a good.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2516">41:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2516" data-t="2516">Right. But that's the that's right. It's just, it's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2520" data-t="2520">about the way you frame it to yourself. So you don't get lost in,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2525" data-t="2525">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2526" data-t="2526">making the same kind of memes.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2530">42:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2530" data-t="2530">Totally.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2532" data-t="2532">I mean, Stalin was a good memer. Trotsky was a good memer.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2537">42:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2537" data-t="2537">Awful too. True.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2538" data-t="2538">Awful people. Most most good memers are bad people. In fact, most good memers, maybe all good memers are bad people.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2547">42:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2547" data-t="2547">I don't know about that. I reject that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2550" data-t="2550">But yeah. Wait. What happened to the meme games?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2553" data-t="2553">Speaking of good memers, where do they go?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2556">42:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2556" data-t="2556">They stop believing in themselves.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2559">42:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2559" data-t="2559">Do you think that's what it is?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2561">42:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2561" data-t="2561">Maybe they believe in themselves so much they start needing to be a part of a gang. And they started making</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2566">42:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2566" data-t="2566">content for themselves, stuff that they are proud of. That's one thing that I've been really waiting for the cycles, the reemergence of meme gangs, but I haven't seen it. I've been really shocked.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2577">42:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2577" data-t="2577">I mean, Nazis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2578" data-t="2578">are a meme gang for sure.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2582">43:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2582" data-t="2582">I guess that's fair.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2584" data-t="2584">They're not very good at it though.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2586" data-t="2586">Nazis can't</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2588">43:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2588" data-t="2588">And then most of the meme gangs weren't very good at it. Doesn't mean they didn't stop them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2594" data-t="2594">You</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2595" data-t="2595">don't mean anything. Meme meme games just aren't good examples. You know what I mean? It's it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2601" data-t="2601">they doesn't mean that they weren't, you know, effective. It doesn't mean that they weren't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2605" data-t="2605">in numbers. I'm gonna know, but they weren't very few of them are good examples.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2611">43:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2611" data-t="2611">You don't think so? You don't think that, the Moscow meme tardis were good memeers? Oh, he,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2616">43:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2616" data-t="2616">Maybe for the time. I don't know.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2618" data-t="2618">Some things just don't age well, I guess.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2622">43:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2622" data-t="2622">I guess that's a, that's a good point. I mean, there there's like a lot of one hit wonders that won't be</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2628">43:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2628" data-t="2628">Culture is not the relevant. Back. Right? There was a time when the mullet people were like, the mullet is the stupidest haircut. I would never have a mullet.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2635" data-t="2635">And like, I think that's like the Moscow meatards, like the, the kind of memes from 2021 are kinda like mullets,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2641" data-t="2641">but like mullets from fifty years ago when they were just not a style, some sort of retro version's gonna come back. The, the, the broccoli haircuts kids will start to have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2651" data-t="2651">mullets</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2652" data-t="2652">again. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2654" data-t="2654">Yeah, it's, they're just not, it didn't age well for now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2659">44:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2659" data-t="2659">Yeah. It's kind of comparing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2661" data-t="2661">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2662" data-t="2662">They I think it's helpful to compare to legendary memers like Michael Bitzstein and Pierre Richard, for example. Like, those guys</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2672" data-t="2672">are truly timeless memers.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2675">44:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2675" data-t="2675">They're still meaning really well. Yeah. That seems to be kind of the, what happened to the meme gangs. What happened to the best meme ers? Well, they got bought. They've they,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2684" data-t="2684">some people might say they sold out, but they put on a suit and they went to Wall Street and they started memeing for favorite Bitcoin companies. They're professionals now, they have briefcases.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2693" data-t="2693">They go to work, they wear monk strap shoes, and they go to work meaning for, you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2700" data-t="2700">know, a public institution.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2702" data-t="2702">And, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2704" data-t="2704">some people say they sold out. Some people say they bought in.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2708">45:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2708" data-t="2708">And I think, like Pierre and Bitt Stuck, those guys are good examples. I've got respect for both of them.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2713">45:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2713" data-t="2713">Though I disagree with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2716" data-t="2716">Pierre mostly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2717" data-t="2717">I guess I I haven't followed, Michael close enough to have too many criticisms of him recently, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2724" data-t="2724">does does Michael Goldstein, does he work for a paper Bitcoin company like Pierre?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2730">45:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2730" data-t="2730">I don't know if he is in like a, a meaning role. He might work for one, but not in a, in a public meme posting role.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2737" data-t="2737">But I could be wrong about that. I'm happy to be corrected, but I, I, I think it's important to emphasize</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2743" data-t="2743">being a good example doesn't mean that there aren't valid criticisms of you or that you don't make mistakes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2749" data-t="2749">Being a good example</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2752" data-t="2752">just means that you learn and overcome those mistakes over time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2758" data-t="2758">Does that make sense?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2760">45:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2760" data-t="2760">Yep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2761" data-t="2761">Makes a ton of sense.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2765" data-t="2765">I think what one thing to close out on, which is interesting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2771" data-t="2771">is, Donald Trump. I I tweeted Donald Trump is launching an attack on CORE.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2777" data-t="2777">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2778" data-t="2778">let me go find the tweet that I was referencing.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2782">46:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2782" data-t="2782">Apparently, Donald Trump</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2784" data-t="2784">is using</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2786" data-t="2786">the intelligence agencies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2787" data-t="2787">to go after his political opponents kind of like the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2791" data-t="2791">other guys did before. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2794" data-t="2794">new directive,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2796">46:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2796" data-t="2796">NSPM7</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2798" data-t="2798">targets anti capitalism,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2800" data-t="2800">anti Christian,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2802" data-t="2802">anti American</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2804" data-t="2804">opinions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2805" data-t="2805">as</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2806">46:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2806" data-t="2806">indicators</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2807" data-t="2807">of extreme</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2809" data-t="2809">extremist violence, authoring an army of 4,000 counterterrorism</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2813" data-t="2813">officers to prevent</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2815" data-t="2815">crimes that haven't happened. But we know that, the court knows they're woke, they're gay.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2821" data-t="2821">I don't think they're very religious,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2823">47:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2823" data-t="2823">at least not as religious as Luke.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2828" data-t="2828">I see that as, many ways attack on core.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2832" data-t="2832">The core mean is have it coming for them. So, I mean, do you see this,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2839" data-t="2839">it's kind of bigger than this though. So it's bigger than cores. It's, you know, they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2844" data-t="2844">they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2846" data-t="2846">Do you think this means that Shinobi's White House press credentials are going to get revoked?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2852">47:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2852" data-t="2852">Yeah. Yeah. They're, they're cutting down. They're going after socialism.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2856" data-t="2856">They're going after,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2858" data-t="2858">the trunes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2859" data-t="2859">trans stuff. They're going after LGBTQ</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2862" data-t="2862">activity. There's just been a lot of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2867" data-t="2867">it's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2869">47:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2869" data-t="2869">you know, they would they went after anti gay speech and anti</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2873" data-t="2873">public education,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2875" data-t="2875">you know, anti secular</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2878" data-t="2878">curriculum in schools. They they just went after all these things against the right for so long. Now they're applying it to the left.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2885" data-t="2885">I think the important point is to as you wherever your Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2891" data-t="2891">podcast is about, or your company is just avoid,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2896">48:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2896" data-t="2896">avoid getting caught up in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2899" data-t="2899">the meta,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2900" data-t="2900">you know, Bitcoin is kind of the, the gravity, the center of culture, try to avoid getting caught up in the meta stuff about capitalism and Christianity.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2909" data-t="2909">With your company right now, you probably avoid</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2911" data-t="2911">your podcast being censored.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2915">48:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2915" data-t="2915">So so you think it's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2917" data-t="2917">compliance is defiance in this scenario?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2921">48:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2921" data-t="2921">Yeah. This is one of those, this is one of those opportunities to just,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2926" data-t="2926">you're you're if none of your principles were being violated, like there's no need to, no need to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2932" data-t="2932">to antagonize Muslims with your commercials.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2935" data-t="2935">If you're a Bitcoin podcast, you know what I mean? Or your wallet, it's like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2941" data-t="2941">no need to have a LGBTQ</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2943" data-t="2943">post on, June 1. If If you're a Bitcoin company, it's just that those shouldn't those shouldn't mix. You shouldn't, make this you shouldn't make the ideological</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2953">49:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2953" data-t="2953">crusade</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2954" data-t="2954">of, other people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2958" data-t="2958">the state, you know, the state's priority. You shouldn't make that your priority. That's a pretty interesting take. I mean, I,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2965">49:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2965" data-t="2965">I don't know. I think it's a good example of, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2971" data-t="2971">when you support Orwellian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2974" data-t="2974">policies, it's eventually gonna come back and, bite you in the ass. And it's it's more of why it's important to have principles. That's that's the way that I see it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2985" data-t="2985">Because,</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2985">you might be in favor of this now, but, you know, a few years from now, a gay woke communist might be in office and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2992" data-t="2992">they they find that, you know, your Christian values or whatever,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2996">49:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2996" data-t="2996">you know, you're espousing is a threat to our democracy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3000" data-t="3000">and therefore, you know, they're gonna create these kinds of things. They're gonna do</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3004">50:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3004" data-t="3004">that anyway. They're gonna do that anyway.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3007" data-t="3007">So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3008" data-t="3008">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3009" data-t="3009">if they're beating up your enemies right now, just stay out of it. Don't you don't have to go get involved. They're gonna come after you anyway, but it's in strengthening yourself now so you can be robust and avoid it when they come after you next. I'll,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3021">50:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3021" data-t="3021">I'll respectfully disagree,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3025" data-t="3025">But yeah, I don't know. Tactically, it's, it's hard to know what to do. If they're beating up in Antifa care and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3032">50:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3032" data-t="3032">or, you know, you know, put putting a murderer in jail.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3036" data-t="3036">That's just, you know, listen to Bitcoin podcast instead.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3041">50:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3041" data-t="3041">Well, I don't think any of us will lose sleep about them beating up, beating up the Antifa care Karens, but you know, there's going to be collateral damage.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3050" data-t="3050">It's going to, it's going to be like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3054" data-t="3054">like I just don't wanna see innocent people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3058" data-t="3058">that have morals and principles. Good podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3062" data-t="3062">listeners that may just have inconvenient</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3064" data-t="3064">opinions</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3066">51:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3066" data-t="3066">to the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3068" data-t="3068">state establishment</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3069" data-t="3069">get deported to El Salvador</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3071" data-t="3071">and have to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3072" data-t="3072">I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3074" data-t="3074">want to see a world where, you</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3076">51:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3076" data-t="3076">know, if they're going to El Salvador,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3079" data-t="3079">they're doing it by choice. They're they're like, we wanna go get tallow bellies with pleb crews</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3087" data-t="3087">in El Salvador, but you don't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3089" data-t="3089">have to go do it in prison.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3092">51:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3092" data-t="3092">You know, we talked a lot about a few months ago about being able to afford taxes, being a taxpayer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3098" data-t="3098">I, my guess I would boil my conclusion down. I don't, I'm not going to get upset if you use my tax dollars to shoot communists with pet with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3106" data-t="3106">with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3107" data-t="3107">rubber bullets. I think it's funny</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3109" data-t="3109">to see communist get shot with rubber bullets and it, and there's bigger, there's way bigger budget</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3115" data-t="3115">concerns. There's way bigger things that I'm more upset about my government doing with my tax dollars than shooting communist with rubber bullets. Alright. Well,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3124">52:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3124" data-t="3124">it's an interesting opinion.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3126" data-t="3126">I think this is a good segue in the fountain booze, unless you got anything else you wanna talk about before we do that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3132">52:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3132" data-t="3132">I can't I can't seem to get the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3136" data-t="3136">the fountain boost to pull up on my hopefully, you got them on your phone. Alright. Good.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3140">52:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3140" data-t="3140">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3141" data-t="3141">It's been acting a little bit funky. I mean,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3145">52:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3145" data-t="3145">you know how it is. I'm always disappointed when I try to read my fountain boost and I can't see them. That's interesting. It looks like it's working on my phone.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3152">52:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3152" data-t="3152">No, it's not actually. That's interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3155" data-t="3155">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3156" data-t="3156">Bitcoin podcasters know they need to build redundancies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3161" data-t="3161">into their setups.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3162" data-t="3162">This would be a cataclysmic event if we couldn't read our fountain boost on the show today.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3170" data-t="3170">But, I guess</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3174">52:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3174" data-t="3174">before I forget, I need to start off with the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3180" data-t="3180">the Barn Miner boost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3183" data-t="3183">So Barn Miner,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3186" data-t="3186">was bitching at me at lightning,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3188" data-t="3188">said</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3189" data-t="3189">messaged me on signal, says, Hey, I wanna send you a final boost, send me an invoice.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3194">53:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3194" data-t="3194">Send him an invoice.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3196" data-t="3196">He,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3197" data-t="3197">waits to pay it like twelve hours and then gets upset because the invoice expired.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3203" data-t="3203">So I just sent him a new invoice. He said, Wow, it expired. So therefore, lightning doesn't work.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3209" data-t="3209">Says fucking lightning man.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3211" data-t="3211">Gayest Bitcoin accessory in history.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3215">53:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3215" data-t="3215">There's definitely gay or Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3217" data-t="3217">Okay. So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3218" data-t="3218">this is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3220" data-t="3220">Barn Miner's boost. He says, as a credentialed journalist, Richard certainly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3224" data-t="3224">should have known that Run the Jewels were at a Bitcoin conference.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3229" data-t="3229">3,333</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3231">53:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3231" data-t="3231">sat. I don't know how I missed that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3233">53:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3233" data-t="3233">Barmire.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3234" data-t="3234">Love him. We love the guy. But he's like a good example</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3238" data-t="3238">of something, right? He's a good example</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3241" data-t="3241">of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3243" data-t="3243">not sometimes just not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3245" data-t="3245">focusing your time and energy on the right things. And it's that I really appreciate to boost our miner and really appreciate,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3254">54:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3254" data-t="3254">the criticism of Richard not knowing Run the Jewel, but just the amount of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3259" data-t="3259">of work that has to be done for our Meyer to send a whitening,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3264" data-t="3264">you know, a lightning payment of 3,000 sats on his Graphine OS phone, trying to, like, get his freaking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3270" data-t="3270">podcast node,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3272" data-t="3272">channel working. It's just, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3276" data-t="3276">I'd rather,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3277">54:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3277" data-t="3277">I'd rather it be he spend that time making jerky.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3281">54:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3281" data-t="3281">Yeah. That's a good point. I'm glad I'm glad Barn listens to the episodes though. That makes me happy. Hell yeah. Well, I'm having Barn as a listener.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3288">54:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3288" data-t="3288">Well, then I have him as a friend, as a fellow pioneer. I think he's resolved. He's gonna send,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3293">54:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3293" data-t="3293">XMR boost now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3295" data-t="3295">That's his</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3297" data-t="3297">that's where he's gone.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3298">54:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3298" data-t="3298">Well, you know, he</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3300" data-t="3300">he has his own conclusions to things, you know?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3303">55:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3303" data-t="3303">Just wait I can't I can't wait to hear a bitch about Monero,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3307" data-t="3307">about how he has to wait twenty minutes for cake wallet to sink</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3310">55:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3310" data-t="3310">in order to start the, I don't know. It is Darmire never sends a comment worth using Monero for. I thought Monero would be more for,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3318" data-t="3318">spicier memes than,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3320" data-t="3320">reminding Grisha or not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3322" data-t="3322">that he should pay attention to the bands that come to, Bitcoin conferences. But anyways, I digress.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3328" data-t="3328">And this one,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3330" data-t="3330">or the first one on the boost here on the official list is Dan Wedge</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3336">55:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3336" data-t="3336">over on Noster, and he pitched it a 113</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3338" data-t="3338">sets. And he said, first and last listen here, they killed the pleb</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3342" data-t="3342">between their name drops of half Twitter verse, I mean, who even is doctor Adam Beck,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3347" data-t="3347">to the notion that they hold paper Bitcoin so they can't sing the good name of Knotts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3353" data-t="3353">in the World War of Software.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3355" data-t="3355">This podcast was pure gibberish, lacking slurs and seats showing the seriousness of which Roger and Dick feel they need to apply to Podgolf.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3365">56:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3365" data-t="3365">Dan is a great example as well. A great example of something. Dan Wedge is a great example of an Oster only,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3374" data-t="3374">pioneer who just doesn't didn't realize he was a pioneer. Right? Like, he thought he was a pleb, and then he realized he got word finally on Oster that he was. He's like, oh, shit. Yeah. I'm a pioneer, by the way.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3384" data-t="3384">But, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3387" data-t="3387">all this stuff, all the influencers on on x on Twitter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3392" data-t="3392">it's not what DMWitch cares about.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3394" data-t="3394">So we're sorry that we spent too much time on Twitter drama. That was, some serious you know, we had to dispel the plet slop, I guess, is is what we had to do. We had to purge the plet slop from our minds and our and our listeners' minds.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3408">56:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3408" data-t="3408">In the last few episodes were kind of, an an exercise in that. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3413">56:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3413" data-t="3413">I'm glad you got the chance to listen to some credential journalism even if it was your last time. I have a feeling though based on the tone of this boost that it wasn't the last time that you'll be back.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3425" data-t="3425">You know, some people listen to our show and then they rage quit and then they come back. Some people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3430" data-t="3430">I'm not offended by,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3433" data-t="3433">Grumpy Boost or fake Grumpy Boost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3435" data-t="3435">I like it. I encourage more</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3439" data-t="3439">hate mail. I'd like to see the hate mail</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3442">57:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3442" data-t="3442">increase, I think.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3444">57:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3444" data-t="3444">Tell us how you really feel, guys. Tell us how you really feel.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3448">57:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3448" data-t="3448">I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3449" data-t="3449">want Bitcoin Motorist. I want Pledder. I want</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3453" data-t="3453">Matthew Kraner to write these essays about why everything that we're saying is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3458" data-t="3458">wrong. Send it to the email, the bitcoin bugleprotonmail</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3461" data-t="3461">dot com. I they haven't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3464" data-t="3464">we've</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3465">57:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3465" data-t="3465">got it on our website somewhere to send hate mail to that email address and unfortunately,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3471" data-t="3471">people haven't really taken us up on it. I'd like to see it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3476">57:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3476" data-t="3476">Yeah. If</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3478" data-t="3478">you insist that we're a problem</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3480" data-t="3480">or you insist that we're not funny, we're not trying to be funny, first of all, but if you insist there's, you know, something, it, it, it, they'll just block us and ignore us.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3489" data-t="3489">They have no problem</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3491" data-t="3491">telling you how they feel about every other problem they see in Bitcoin. But if for some reason they, they won't, they won't tell us how they really feel.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3499" data-t="3499">And I I I think that that is,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3502">58:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3502" data-t="3502">racist isn't the right word, but it is, disrespectful</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3506" data-t="3506">to you tell every other journalist, but you won't tell us how you really feel. Tell us how you really feel. I'd like to know. I'd like to address it, in fact.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3517">58:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3517" data-t="3517">I want to. I I don't think this is hate mail, though. That's not how I read it. Well, anyways, thank you for the boost, Dan. We appreciate you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3525" data-t="3525">Doom satoshi 05/2021</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3527" data-t="3527">sat says fifteen years ago, there was no Bitcoin podcast, only Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3532" data-t="3532">talk forum.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3533" data-t="3533">Just a few thousand freaks</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3535" data-t="3535">playing with magic Internet money. Thank you for your time.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3539">58:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3539" data-t="3539">Well, thank you for your time, dude, Satoshi. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3543" data-t="3543">Do you think anybody's ever thought about compiling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3546" data-t="3546">the stuff</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3548" data-t="3548">on Bitcoin talk forums and turning it into a podcast?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3553" data-t="3553">There's a lot of interesting exchanges on there back in the day.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3558">59:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3558" data-t="3558">Yeah. Some,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3559" data-t="3559">Mira Salopaskiou</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3560" data-t="3560">content, some good podcasts. That'd be, that'd be pretty interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3565" data-t="3565">Pete Rizzo, if you stop, if you want to stop posting pupslop</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3569" data-t="3569">and you want to make</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3571" data-t="3571">a Bitcoin story and credentialed</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3573">59:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3573" data-t="3573">Bitcoin podcast about all the best,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3576" data-t="3576">dramas from the Bitcoin talk forums, get in touch with us.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3581" data-t="3581">Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3583">59:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3583" data-t="3583">Do you ever hang around Bitcoin talk? I know I, I have a little bit of, but not, not a ton.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3589">59:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3589" data-t="3589">Yeah. There's been times where I've I've, I've like read through some old conversations,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3594" data-t="3594">some old dramas. I was really interested about some of that stuff at, at one point. I think it's fascinating stuff.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3600" data-t="3600">You kind of quickly realize that they're still there arguing to like about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3604" data-t="3604">pretty much the same things that we are just maybe at a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3609" data-t="3609">much larger scale or much different broader scale.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3613" data-t="3613">And they're,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3614">1:00:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3614" data-t="3614">they're having the same PADI evil arguments</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3617" data-t="3617">and, and dramas is, is, is very interesting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3621">1:00:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3621" data-t="3621">It's just their mothers hate more Tylenol</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3623" data-t="3623">than our mothers.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3625">1:00:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3625" data-t="3625">Exactly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3627" data-t="3627">It's it's one thing to argue that much about it when it's this big, but when it was that small.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3632">1:00:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3632" data-t="3632">Oof. Well, thank you for posting, Satoshi.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3635" data-t="3635">Yeah. Those early days were kind of like the the dark days before Bitcoin podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3640" data-t="3640">Dark</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3641">1:00:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3641" data-t="3641">ages. Yep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3643" data-t="3643">The next one is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3645" data-t="3645">from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3646" data-t="3646">Discovering Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3648" data-t="3648">So we've both been on the Discovering Bitcoin podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3652" data-t="3652">He's a funny talker from Australia though. Not from The UK.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3658">1:00:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3658" data-t="3658">He said, Rob Palmer is the voice of reason</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3661" data-t="3661">with the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3664" data-t="3664">with the, the Italian hand and the salute emoji.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3669" data-t="3669">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3670" data-t="3670">He seems to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3672" data-t="3672">he seems to like, he seems to get</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3674">1:01:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3674" data-t="3674">the bugle vibes. Are you sure that, discovering Bitcoin is from,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3679" data-t="3679">Australia? I thought he's from</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3682">1:01:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3682" data-t="3682">Ireland. But he lives in Australia.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3684" data-t="3684">Maybe I got there completely wrong.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3687" data-t="3687">The accents all sound the same to me. He doesn't have an Irish accent.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3690">1:01:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3690" data-t="3690">Yeah. He speaks English incorrectly. I think we can agree on that. He's a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3697" data-t="3697">well, we'll happily teach you how to speak American and be a better Bitcoin podcasters, but it really is. He really wants to go</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3702">1:01:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3702" data-t="3702">on, what Bitcoin did. He wants to talk to Danny because Danny's Australian too.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3709">1:01:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3709" data-t="3709">What do you think that conversation would look like? He'd go on there and ask Danny his orange pill story.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3716">1:01:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3716" data-t="3716">Yeah, that that sounds about right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3719" data-t="3719">Probably asking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3720" data-t="3720">what it's like to be Jamie for Peter McCormick for so many years and to take over.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3726">1:02:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3726" data-t="3726">He yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3728" data-t="3728">I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3729" data-t="3729">I think Danny's better than Jamie. Jamie</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3732" data-t="3732">was Jamie is a loser.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3735">1:02:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3735" data-t="3735">Jamie's a shikoiur.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3736" data-t="3736">Jamie is never shikoiur.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3739">1:02:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3739" data-t="3739">Not that we know, but we might learn about that if he gets to ask him his orange pills journey. But yeah, Discovering Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3746" data-t="3746">is a good podcast. He has a lot of good guests on there, a lot of interesting conversations.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3751" data-t="3751">I would encourage,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3753" data-t="3753">people to check it out if you haven't before.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3757" data-t="3757">Thank you for the boost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3758" data-t="3758">Doom Satoshi again, five twenty one Sat says, forty hours</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3763">1:02:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3763" data-t="3763">plus podcast a week while smoking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3766" data-t="3766">cigarettes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3768" data-t="3768">for many years. Your show is awesome. Love it. Thank you for your time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3773" data-t="3773">It's just it's nice to see people smoke it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3776" data-t="3776">Nice to see people smoke it and listen to Bitcoin podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3779" data-t="3779">The world is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3780">1:03:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3780" data-t="3780">healing. Yeah. It's it's that simple guys. Just listen forty hours per week, smoke cigarettes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3788" data-t="3788">Thank you for your time. That's that's the simple approach. It is that easy. It's just you have to put it into practice. That's not a grumpy boost. That is a forty hour per week list. When somebody listens forty hours per week, they have boo they get boost like this. This is a great a key. Dean Satoshi is a good example. Next one,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3806" data-t="3806">open mic, 7,777</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3809" data-t="3809">sats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3810" data-t="3810">Bugle mile high club back in the saddle.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3815" data-t="3815">I just recorded</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3816">1:03:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3816" data-t="3816">a episode of Bloodchain Radio.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3820" data-t="3820">We talked about that already. Avi was not there. It was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3823" data-t="3823">it is key w me and open mic, and we talked about value for value. We talked about Noster. We talked about the drama.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3831" data-t="3831">So good one, Mike. Listen to us again from the, from the sky flying to another Teamster event.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3839">1:03:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3839" data-t="3839">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3840" data-t="3840">I'm excited. I think in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3843" data-t="3843">October</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3844" data-t="3844">in Nashville,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3845" data-t="3845">they're having a,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3849" data-t="3849">Noster events called like Nosterville or something. They're gonna have some, musical performances</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3855">1:04:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3855" data-t="3855">from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3857" data-t="3857">some Noster musicians like Joe Martin and and people like that. I there's a very high chance I'll be at that. I'm looking forward to hanging out with Mike again. Very good guy. I enjoyed that, conversation on, Plug Chain that you guys did. That was a fun one.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3874" data-t="3874">You were spinning some fire for sure.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3878" data-t="3878">It's fun. It is fun to hear you on these solo,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3881" data-t="3881">appearances.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3884" data-t="3884">I think more people should ask you on, on their Bitcoin podcast. I think that'd be a good use of people's time.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3892">1:04:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3892" data-t="3892">Always</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3895">1:04:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3895" data-t="3895">free. Next boost. This is one that I was excited about when I read it this week. First time in a long time, Orange Mart two thousand five hundred Sats says this boost might not be enough to buy Rod's opinion, but it is enough to remind you that you can save</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3909" data-t="3909">at all great</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3910" data-t="3910">Bitcoin projects with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3912" data-t="3912">code orange mart. So I guess that means like if you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3915" data-t="3915">you you could put your ref link into stuff like maybe like CryptoCloaks or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3921" data-t="3921">your cold card or whatever it is with code Orange Mart. But the Orange Mart</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3926">1:05:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3926" data-t="3926">is very cool place. It is a Rust server</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3929" data-t="3929">which is a video game,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3933" data-t="3933">which is, you know, pretty difficult video game. It's a low time preference video game that you need to spend time learning and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3941" data-t="3941">the tutorial is really hard, but you can skip this tutorial. But yeah,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3944" data-t="3944">some good folks at the Orange Mart created a custom</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3948" data-t="3948">server where you can go hang out and listen to Bitcoin podcasts and talk about it with people. And, you know, if you wander around, it's kind of dangerous. So you can team up with your</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3960">1:06:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3960" data-t="3960">with your crew, hang out, talk about Bitcoin podcasts and then go, shoot at people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3965" data-t="3965">ride trains and horses and stuff. And, it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3968" data-t="3968">a fun game. I went and hung out there with, some people with Tip NZ</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3974" data-t="3974">roughly over a year ago. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3976" data-t="3976">I'd encourage people if you're into that,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3979">1:06:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3979" data-t="3979">check it out. Next one from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3982" data-t="3982">Dave.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3983" data-t="3983">Fuck Luke, fuck mechanic, fuck creator, Eldonazi influencers. And if you're down with attack and open source developers working on Bitcoin, fuck you too.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3995" data-t="3995">Dave just puts it right out there. He's, he's laying down the gauntlet,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3999" data-t="3999">fuck the Nazi influencers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4002" data-t="4002">and fuck anybody</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4004">1:06:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4004" data-t="4004">who's attacking cord depths.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4007" data-t="4007">Dave Dave Dave is never shy about his,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4011" data-t="4011">about his stance. That's why I like Dave.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4015">1:06:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4015" data-t="4015">I'm not gonna have sex with any of them.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4018">1:06:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4018" data-t="4018">Me either.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4022">1:07:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4022" data-t="4022">What do you think he's saying here? Is he saying that they're hawing? You want he wants to have sex with them or, like, what?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4028" data-t="4028">He's like pro attacking Bitcoin development?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4031">1:07:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4031" data-t="4031">I'm confused by this, Bruce. Well, he I guess he believes that anybody he believe maybe he believes anybody except Cordes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4037" data-t="4037">can have sex and he'll have sex with them. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4041" data-t="4041">Fuck your beef. Fuck fuck your influencer if you want to fuck as, Jian Wu wants it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4048">1:07:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4048" data-t="4048">Yeah. I I I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4050" data-t="4050">the fact that I think both of us are pretty tired of, the Nazi influencers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4057" data-t="4057">People assume that we're we're both communist. I I would definitely not call myself a communist. In your intro last week, it sounded like you were not a communist either, that you could see,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4068" data-t="4068">the problems. But, yeah, you know, like, I think I agree with Dave on this one. I think that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4074" data-t="4074">you know, while the Nazis are pretty obnoxious, they they still should be able to have sex.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4080" data-t="4080">And, you know, when the Nazi influencers come running around telling you that you can't have sex,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4085">1:08:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4085" data-t="4085">you don't have to respond in kind and tell them that they can't have sex. Like, you can be okay with them having sex even if they're telling you that you can't.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4094" data-t="4094">But Yeah. It's like you</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4096">1:08:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4096" data-t="4096">Even if the other side is telling you you don't have free speech, you can stay. I still fight for your your free speech. Yeah. Your ability to have sex. Yeah. Habit sex is kind of free speech, maybe. Think about it that way.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4109" data-t="4109">Next one</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4111" data-t="4111">is, your is your read. My bad.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4115">1:08:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4115" data-t="4115">Fundamentals, 10,101</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4117" data-t="4117">SAT says a Sherman for the ages and when I would launch an epoch of emergency</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4122" data-t="4122">podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4124" data-t="4124">I didn't see any emergency podcast in response to to your,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4131" data-t="4131">your speech. I mean, it was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4133" data-t="4133">it truly was some of the best Bitcoin podcasting I think I've ever heard in my life.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4137">1:08:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4137" data-t="4137">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4140" data-t="4140">I think where these guys are at right now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4145" data-t="4145">is they're trying to ignore you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4147" data-t="4147">They haven't reached the fight Rod Palmer stage yet, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4151" data-t="4151">they might get there pretty soon if you keep it up.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4155">1:09:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4155" data-t="4155">Yeah. Well, yeah. I'm always glad to hear that somebody thinks I'm a good example of a Bitcoin podcaster.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4162" data-t="4162">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4163" data-t="4163">that's what I'm trying to be.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4164" data-t="4164">Next one is from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4167" data-t="4167">Akashi</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4168" data-t="4168">Hayogo,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4169">1:09:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4169" data-t="4169">21,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4170" data-t="4170">sats. Sorry if I butchered the name. Inspirational sermon at the beginning. Listen to it twice. Hope accounts to the forty hour target.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4179" data-t="4179">Definitely does. And thank you for the, for the boost and the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4183" data-t="4183">and the feedback.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4186">1:09:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4186" data-t="4186">Yeah. Some some podcasts are so good</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4190" data-t="4190">that it's worth relistening to. That definitely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4194" data-t="4194">counts towards the forty. I guess, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4197" data-t="4197">we have opinions on the forty hours a week but you have to be accountable to yourself</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4202" data-t="4202">at the end of the day. And if you want to listen to Plebslop over and over again, it's just not going to do a lot of good for you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4210" data-t="4210">But ultimately,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4211">1:10:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4211" data-t="4211">it's between you and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4214" data-t="4214">yourself</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4215" data-t="4215">and if you believe in God on whether you'll listen to forty hours per week. Not everybody's like Pies and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4223" data-t="4223">you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4224" data-t="4224">know, puts their accountability</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4225" data-t="4225">out there for everybody. So you scroll through Noster,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4229">1:10:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4229" data-t="4229">you see Pies boosting all these</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4231" data-t="4231">podcasts. It's pretty obvious. He's doing the forty.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4236" data-t="4236">But anyways,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4238" data-t="4238">yeah, I really appreciate the boost. I I think this is the first time,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4241" data-t="4241">Booster says</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4242" data-t="4242">the bio says philosopher, speculator, gambler</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4246">1:10:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4246" data-t="4246">based on where we're we are in the cycle. Background in quantum mechanics, trying to follow as many real people as possible</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4255" data-t="4255">to prepare for the dead Internet.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4260" data-t="4260">Yeah. I mean, that's an interesting take. I I think a lot of people are speculating on whether we're already in the dead Internet or not. I was gonna say, I think we're there. I think we're there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4271" data-t="4271">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4273" data-t="4273">what's the difference between</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4276" data-t="4276">a sock puppet bot</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4278">1:11:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4278" data-t="4278">and a brain dead club? Well, brain dead club is there's, you know, their, their mind has been, they've outsourced their thinking. Their mind is now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4287" data-t="4287">controlled by,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4289" data-t="4289">you know, some,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4291" data-t="4291">you know, heard by some central node</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4293" data-t="4293">and they're just, they're just zombies on the timeline,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4297" data-t="4297">repeating memes,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4300">1:11:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4300" data-t="4300">piling in on certain keywords.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4303" data-t="4303">So you don't, you don't necessarily need to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4306" data-t="4306">like an AI bot or, you know, even some programmed API</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4312" data-t="4312">controlled account</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4313" data-t="4313">or end pub to be a zombie. Like you can be a real person. It just depends on, you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4319">1:11:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4319" data-t="4319">the central node. Well, I use plubs and sock puppet accounts. They they kind of present as the same thing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4326" data-t="4326">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4328" data-t="4328">I I like that. I like the idea of following real people instead of just,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4332" data-t="4332">you know, bot accounts or, you know, feds or,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4336" data-t="4336">sock or play bring that play with cannon fodder.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4340" data-t="4340">Thank you for the booze.</span></span></p> +