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Do you want to experience the rapture with heavy crypto bags, or do you want to go to heaven having fun staying poor?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-56" data-t="56">The Lord commands us to be good stewards of the gifts he gives</span> <span class="cue" id="t-61" data-t="61">us. Will you choose to be a good steward?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-64">1:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-64" data-t="64">We are in a bull market and it's all thanks to Jesus.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-68" data-t="68">Let's pray.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-70" data-t="70">Lord, thank you for blessing our cryptocurrency</span> <span class="cue" id="t-73" data-t="73">holdings because we put our faith in you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-76" data-t="76">Thank you for bringing us such a good Christian leader in president Trump.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-80" data-t="80">But most of all, Lord, thank you for hard forking so that us gentiles can get into heaven now too. In the name of prosperity,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-90">1:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-90" data-t="90">amen.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-92" data-t="92">Now folks, Richard Grieser has created a groundbreaking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-96" data-t="96">documentary series</span> <span class="cue" id="t-97" data-t="97">investigating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-98" data-t="98">whether or not Jesus was a Mossad</span> <span class="cue" id="t-101" data-t="101">agent, which can be accessed behind a paywall on Fountain.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-106">1:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-106" data-t="106">You can access this content and much more to come by subscribing to the Bugle weekly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-112" data-t="112">for 10 USDT</span> <span class="cue" id="t-113" data-t="113">in Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-114" data-t="114">a month.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-116" data-t="116">Later on in the show, there will be a trailer for this groundbreaking investigation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-121" data-t="121">that I'm featured in.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-122">2:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-122" data-t="122">But before we get into it, let's worship the lord for he is good.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-279">4:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-279" data-t="279">Welcome back to the Bugle Weekly folks. This is Richard Grieser.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-283" data-t="283">Joining me today as usual is Rod Palmer. And I gotta say folks, I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-288" data-t="288">feel it feels so good to be back.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-291" data-t="291">It feels so good to be back. You know, those last couple weeks,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-295" data-t="295">this is the first time we missed a week with the Bu Weekly. And I can't tell you how much emotional pain is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-302" data-t="302">I imagine</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-303">5:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-303" data-t="303">it's similar</span> <span class="cue" id="t-304" data-t="304">to what being like a crack addict feels</span> <span class="cue" id="t-308" data-t="308">when they're in between hits and they can't score.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-311" data-t="311">Maybe they spent all their money on crack, now they're broke, and they're trying to find a dealer that's willing to let them suck a dick. Like, that is kind of the feeling I had was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-321" data-t="321">I need to get back</span> <span class="cue" id="t-323" data-t="323">to Bitcoin podcasting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-324">5:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-324" data-t="324">And so we're back folks. We're back this week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-328" data-t="328">What's going on, Rod? Ross Gerber (3five forty seven): Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-333">5:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-333" data-t="333">A lot of us can relate to this. You get to kind of towards the end</span> <span class="cue" id="t-337" data-t="337">of summer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-339" data-t="339">And if you're a big fan of sports ball, you know, all you got left is baseball. Baseball is the most boring sport. You got golf. Like there's no football. There's no hockey. There's no basketball.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-350" data-t="350">A lot of your favorite shows on TV, like, they're it's been, you know, for years,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-356" data-t="356">the summertime would be when you're in between seas. There's no new content. There's no new good exciting content. People are on vacation.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-362" data-t="362">Bitcoin podcasters have been,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-365">6:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-365" data-t="365">you know, at paper Bitcoin summer. They've been at Lake Satoshi. They've been at the conferences. They've been in Washington DC mingling</span> <span class="cue" id="t-372" data-t="372">with politicians and going to ditty parties.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-376" data-t="376">It's it's been a you know, they're building a community. And so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-381" data-t="381">around the same time, you you you hit your RSS feed, you open up your phone, you go to listen to Bitcoin podcast, you're trying to get your forty hours per week, and there's just not as many new episodes. There's not as much new content. There's not as much new,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-395" data-t="395">breakdowns and analysis of, you know, what Bitcoin did in the past few weeks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-400" data-t="400">It's it's it's a it's a lull in the summertime.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-403">6:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-403" data-t="403">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-405" data-t="405">if you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-406" data-t="406">have been teething up and participating in Pay Per Bitcoin summer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-412" data-t="412">you haven't missed anything. You have been a part of the action. You've been a part of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-417" data-t="417">of meaning this new paradigm of securitized</span> <span class="cue" id="t-421" data-t="421">Bitcoin equity products</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-423">7:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-423" data-t="423">and Bitcoin yield,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-426" data-t="426">MSTY,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-427" data-t="427">covered calls, like, we have taken the speculation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-431" data-t="431">off of the main chain. You can now buy a coffee for less than 1 Zap or vBuy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-437" data-t="437">in fees.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-438" data-t="438">But what we've built is this compliant layer</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-442">7:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-442" data-t="442">of thermodynamically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-443" data-t="443">sound speculation.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-445" data-t="445">And companies are now accumulating Bitcoin. Bitcoin podcasters are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-449" data-t="449">bringing the message directly to the mainstream and controlling the narrative.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-455" data-t="455">And a lot of people are grumpy about that because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-458" data-t="458">they</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-459">7:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-459" data-t="459">they thought that their their Bitcoin, not crypto,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-463" data-t="463">memes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-464" data-t="464">They thought that those were still fresh, and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-467" data-t="467">now Wall Street has taken</span> <span class="cue" id="t-470" data-t="470">the kind of the vibe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-472" data-t="472">of Bitcoin Twitter and repurposed it and repackaged it and made this, like, suit coin or paper Bitcoin</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-479">7:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-479" data-t="479">equity product or leveraged Bitcoin equities as Corey at Swan calls them, and they've made them cooler</span> <span class="cue" id="t-486" data-t="486">than the guys at Stackchain. They've made them cooler than Pleb Underground. They've made them cooler</span> <span class="cue" id="t-492" data-t="492">than, you know, some of the group chats and spaces groups.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-496" data-t="496">The</span> <span class="cue" id="t-497" data-t="497">the most popular memers of the last cycle. And this is the revenge of the podcasters and not everybody's joining.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-505" data-t="505">So you have to get better at memeing because you're getting destroyed by Wall Street.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-510">8:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-510" data-t="510">Yeah. I mean, essentially, Vibes Capital has replaced</span> <span class="cue" id="t-514" data-t="514">Triple Elite Memes, the Meme Factory,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-516" data-t="516">fifty eight ks Gang.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-518" data-t="518">There's not really anybody out there anymore that as far as the meme gangs go. There's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-525" data-t="525">I would consider</span> <span class="cue" id="t-526" data-t="526">Stackchain a meme gang.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-530">8:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-530" data-t="530">Ungovernable You have a great magazine here. Ungovernable Misfits isn't very good at memes. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-536" data-t="536">when you encounter them at Lake Satoshi, you see all the plug miner shirts. They they kinda look like a meme game.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-543" data-t="543">They look like Right.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-545" data-t="545">Yeah. I mean</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-547">9:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-547" data-t="547">Well, yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-548" data-t="548">Some of the meme gangs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-550" data-t="550">some of the meme gangs sold</span> <span class="cue" id="t-552" data-t="552">out. Some of the meme gangs, you know, they retired. Some of the meme gangs, I mean, some of the members, we don't know what happened to them. Some of them got vaccinated and they just, you know, their podcast died suddenly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-564" data-t="564">But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-566" data-t="566">the the essence of what the vibe of a meme gang, you're right, has evolved. It's now Vibe's capital.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-573">9:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-573" data-t="573">It is, you know, doctor Adam Back basically retired or quit,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-579" data-t="579">the Moscow meme tards, and now he's launched his own meme gang.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-583" data-t="583">It's going public. It's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-587" data-t="587">it's grown so quickly. It's scaled. We have scaled meme gangs.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-592">9:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-592" data-t="592">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-594" data-t="594">So I just thought of something. I I so I was listening to some podcast that Vlad Castillo</span> <span class="cue" id="t-600" data-t="600">was on this week,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-601" data-t="601">and they were just so Monero</span> <span class="cue" id="t-603" data-t="603">dropped in value pretty significantly this week. So there's a conversation that we had with some people at</span> <span class="cue" id="t-610" data-t="610">Lake Satoshi.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-612">10:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-612" data-t="612">You know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-613" data-t="613">Rev Hoddle, all he wanted to talk about was Monero the whole time. So we talked about Monero with Rev Hoddle. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-622" data-t="622">yeah, Monero Monero is having a bad week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-625" data-t="625">And and part of the reason why is because there there's essentially a mining attack being hap or happening where where some large data centers just like, we're gonna mine empty blocks on Monero,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-636" data-t="636">make it harder for people to send transactions.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-639" data-t="639">And then they were</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-640">10:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-640" data-t="640">doing some other,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-642" data-t="642">you know, fuckery. And I came to the realization</span> <span class="cue" id="t-645" data-t="645">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-647" data-t="647">the Monero philosophy around mining</span> <span class="cue" id="t-650" data-t="650">is exactly like the bid act.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-654">10:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-654" data-t="654">Right. Exactly. They wanted to be, you know, these big mining farm, they wanted to be resistant to that. They wanted everybody like, you know they wanted so you had a building like CAA Headquarters,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-667" data-t="667">the Pentagon,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-668" data-t="668">and all your employees were working remote during COVID but you had all this compute power in there. It's like you could you could use all that compute power to mine the narrow and it would be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-679" data-t="679">it it, but you couldn't build these farms. Everybody, you, you had to have the same amount of compute and 87 it's, it makes it easier to attack. Why do you think, do you think that maybe the bid acts like, do, do they need their own bid acts? Would that help it? Yeah. I mean, I I I think the only way to fix this is tax or rebates. You know what I mean?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-697">11:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-697" data-t="697">That's the solution to everything. Is you just gotta you gotta</span> <span class="cue" id="t-701" data-t="701">manipulate the incentives through central planning</span> <span class="cue" id="t-704" data-t="704">in some way, shape or form, and you have to do it. You have to get the right leaders</span> <span class="cue" id="t-709" data-t="709">in power. You know what I mean? Like the ones that are ideologically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-713" data-t="713">on your side.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-715" data-t="715">You gotta get the good guys in office. So it all starts with, you gotta go rally. You gotta go rally</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-722">12:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-722" data-t="722">at,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-723" data-t="723">state capitals and you gotta paint the lawn orange and then you gotta,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-729" data-t="729">you know, manipulate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-731" data-t="731">the laws,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-732" data-t="732">in favor of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-734" data-t="734">your people. And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-739">12:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-739" data-t="739">yeah, I mean, that's the solution to it. So there should be tax rebates to mine Monero</span> <span class="cue" id="t-744" data-t="744">and to mine,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-746" data-t="746">the beta access for ultimate decentralization.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-749" data-t="749">Then you should penalize punish the peep penalize the people that</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-754">12:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-754" data-t="754">are trying to centralize everything. You know what I mean? Well, speaking of that, yeah. Speaking of that, Donald Trump has talked about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-760" data-t="760">giving</span> <span class="cue" id="t-761" data-t="761">tariff dividends</span> <span class="cue" id="t-763" data-t="763">to different,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-764" data-t="764">you know, the American citizens, different businesses.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-767" data-t="767">And so one of the things he talked about is giving these tariff dividends. So, you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-772">12:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-772" data-t="772">Monero users could benefit from those tax rebates,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-775" data-t="775">but it's been criticized. You know, it's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-779" data-t="779">it's just coincidence that you brought up Monero today because Nick Fuentes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-784" data-t="784">just said on his podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-786" data-t="786">how Monero was the only</span> <span class="cue" id="t-789" data-t="789">way to escape the Palantir,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-792">13:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-792" data-t="792">Pegasus,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-793" data-t="793">CIA, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-795" data-t="795">this industrial comp, this deep state industrial complex that's, you know, monitoring everything you do.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-802" data-t="802">He said that if Nick Fuentes says the manero is the answer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-806" data-t="806">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-807" data-t="807">it's gonna draw a lot more attention to that and people are gonna find out</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-811">13:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-811" data-t="811">if this works or it doesn't.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-814">13:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-814" data-t="814">I didn't see that one. That's interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-817" data-t="817">Yeah. He Nick Funtz has been blowing up.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-820" data-t="820">He's everywhere. He's he's fighting with Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-826" data-t="826">He's going on Sam Hyde's podcast.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-830">13:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-830" data-t="830">Is do you think that, Nick Fuentes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-833" data-t="833">do you think that his podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-836" data-t="836">stardom has rise to this level of, platform that he has right now?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-844" data-t="844">Feud with Tucker Carlson,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-845" data-t="845">notably.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-847" data-t="847">Do you think that it's a</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-850">14:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-850" data-t="850">organic rise? Do you think that he's saying something</span> <span class="cue" id="t-853" data-t="853">pretty powerful? Or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-855" data-t="855">do you think that he's a plant? Do you think he's a fed?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-859">14:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-859" data-t="859">I think it's simpler than either of those things.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-862" data-t="862">I think what it is is, you know, there's been all this emphasis on like the left wing MPC.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-868" data-t="868">You know what I mean? Like, I'm</span> <span class="cue" id="t-871" data-t="871">the current thing or with the current thing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-874" data-t="874">Now, there's the right wing MPC, which is the I'm against the current thing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-878" data-t="878">whatever it is.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-880">14:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-880" data-t="880">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-881" data-t="881">things have shifted to the right wing really, really quickly. And so, so many people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-886" data-t="886">have formed their identity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-888" data-t="888">as being against whatever the current thing is. And so,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-891" data-t="891">as there are things that they were in favor of before are becoming the current things, they're having to find other things</span> <span class="cue" id="t-899" data-t="899">to be against.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-900">14:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-900" data-t="900">And so, Nick Fuentes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-902" data-t="902">is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-903" data-t="903">doing that for people. Now, now that Tucker Carlson is is considered like the and Joe Rogan or or or establishment</span> <span class="cue" id="t-910" data-t="910">media</span> <span class="cue" id="t-911" data-t="911">in the sense of like, they're the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-914" data-t="914">most relevant, widely recognized people driving the conversation. They can't</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-918">15:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-918" data-t="918">be against that anymore because their identity is being against</span> <span class="cue" id="t-924" data-t="924">something else. And it's just,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-927" data-t="927">these whims of culture for the forty hour per week podcast listener, they're just sitting here trying to understand what the hell is going on,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-936" data-t="936">because none of it makes any sense. Because these are not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-939" data-t="939">rational, logical</span> <span class="cue" id="t-941" data-t="941">people. They're they're MPCs. They don't smoke cigarettes. They have a red iron. They're they're just completely retarded.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-948">15:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-948" data-t="948">It's like they're they're the equivalent of Mike Brock, but, you know, they're a little bit more tolerable because they like firearms and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-956" data-t="956">country music</span> <span class="cue" id="t-958" data-t="958">in NASCAR,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-960" data-t="960">instead of, like, trying to turn your children transgender.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-966" data-t="966">SCC football.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-967" data-t="967">But, yeah, it's,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-970">16:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-970" data-t="970">I mean, he could he could be a plant.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-976">16:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-976" data-t="976">Well, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-977" data-t="977">I think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-979" data-t="979">one of the things</span> <span class="cue" id="t-980" data-t="980">that I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-982" data-t="982">really enjoyed about Lake Satoshi</span> <span class="cue" id="t-985" data-t="985">was that I didn't really feel like anybody</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-988">16:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-988" data-t="988">I didn't feel like I was really hanging out with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-992" data-t="992">or smoking cigarettes with anybody who I thought was a fed, at least not hanging out with me. And I, that's one of the reasons I really appreciated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-999" data-t="999">Lake Satoshi. And it was really great,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1002" data-t="1002">to hang out with a lot of the, a lot of you guys, we late stage huddle,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1006" data-t="1006">one of our best ministers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1008" data-t="1008">We, we confronted him about</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1011">16:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1011" data-t="1011">him, his claim that we stole</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1014" data-t="1014">anti Swanatism from him and he backs down. He, we,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1018" data-t="1018">we, we, we sorted that out, so to speak. But he's a great dude. He was really great to me late stage. He thought we would be disappointed and we were actually super stoked.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1027" data-t="1027">We got to eat some raw milk cheese with Otis Bittmeyer and fundamentals.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1032" data-t="1032">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1034" data-t="1034">I I feel really bad because the dude gave me,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1038">17:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1038" data-t="1038">some delicious</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1039" data-t="1039">raw milk,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1041" data-t="1041">spicy cheese that I was eating with Barn Miner's spicy beef jerky,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1046" data-t="1046">and I don't know his,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1048" data-t="1048">his name, yeah, his, noster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1051" data-t="1051">or his online name, so I can't give him credit, but he had awesome cheese. We hung out with Rev Hoddle. We built social capital and we, we smoked rabbit patch weed</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1061">17:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1061" data-t="1061">with, really good,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1062" data-t="1062">turpentines.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1063" data-t="1063">Is that what he said? It smelled like mint. It was awesome. The Carl, yeah. If he wasn't, he wasn't bitching about Monero.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1070" data-t="1070">We were talking about Allenistedding</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1072" data-t="1072">in, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1074" data-t="1074">I wanna hear your reflections, Richard, on Lake Satoshi,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1078">17:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1078" data-t="1078">but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1080" data-t="1080">after we do that, like, we do have to cover</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1083" data-t="1083">what Rev Hoddle was talking about with, running the Citadel with his wife with walkie talkies. And before you follow in those footsteps and get your wife a walkie talkie,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1093" data-t="1093">you have to make sure she has, walkie talkie offset training for wives.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1098" data-t="1098">But we'll get into that later, man. What was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1101" data-t="1101">what was your experience like at Lake Satoshi?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1104">18:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1104" data-t="1104">It was fun. I enjoyed it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1107" data-t="1107">It was a good time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1110" data-t="1110">I,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1111" data-t="1111">I just hung out with the Maschadel folks. The majority of the time, talked with Bobo, smoked a lot of cigarettes with him,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1118" data-t="1118">and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1121" data-t="1121">smoked a lot of cigarettes with a lot of people, actually.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1125">18:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1125" data-t="1125">Otis Pimp Meyer coffee is really good.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1128" data-t="1128">Incredible.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1130" data-t="1130">I was impressed. I was impressed with how how good it is. I think yeah. I was gonna say,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1136">18:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1136" data-t="1136">some people take, like, Alpha Brain, like Joe Rogan for podcasting. They think that helps them become better pod I screw alpha grain. I mean, if you like it, keep it. You gotta be drinking Otis Bitt Myers coffee</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1148" data-t="1148">before you podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1149" data-t="1149">It's it is powerful stuff.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1151" data-t="1151">A 100%.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1153">19:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1153" data-t="1153">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1154" data-t="1154">I gotta say my expectations going into it were pretty low. So he brewed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1158" data-t="1158">the and this is why.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1160" data-t="1160">Like, I had high hopes, it was good. Fundamental said it was good.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1164" data-t="1164">And, then I got there and he's brewing the coffee and he starts pouring me a cup. And the first thing he asks is, if I want a cream or sugar with it?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1174" data-t="1174">And typically when somebody offers you cream and sugar, it's a suggestion that the coffee's bad. You know what I mean?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1181">19:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1181" data-t="1181">It's like steak sauce for a steak.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1183">19:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1183" data-t="1183">Well, I asked him. I looked at him and was like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1187" data-t="1187">is the coffee</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1188" data-t="1188">that bad? He's like, oh, no. I just figured you're a pussy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1193" data-t="1193">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1195" data-t="1195">I don't know why he was talking shit to me like that right off the bat. It was kind of fucked up. But like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1201" data-t="1201">yeah, I mean, it was really good. I was impressed with it.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1204">20:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1204" data-t="1204">Yeah. Yeah. People are not used to their baristas,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1209" data-t="1209">pocket shit to them in front of their faces, usually behind their back.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1212">20:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1212" data-t="1212">Well, a lot of people are used to it because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1215" data-t="1215">you go into most of these coffee shops these days, and you've got you've got somebody that looks like hey. I don't know what these coffee shops are doing. Are they, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1223" data-t="1223">importing people out of, like, Portland, Oregon, and Seattle? They're just like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1229" data-t="1229">We have a barista position open over here in the, you know, the middle of nowhere. Like, you know, you must have, like, armpit hair and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1238" data-t="1238">look like you drive a, you know, a Subaru.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1241">20:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1241" data-t="1241">The ideal mountain biking in Seattle in the summertime?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1244" data-t="1244">Mhmm.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1246">20:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1246" data-t="1246">Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1247" data-t="1247">it's like there's a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1249" data-t="1249">you know, people like to talk about, like, the the Jews subverting America. It's like, talk about these fucking lesbian baristas.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1258" data-t="1258">It's like there's a network or a secret society</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1262" data-t="1262">all over the country. It's almost universal. And I think Starbucks is one of the few You don't see this as much as Starbucks. It's all the hipster coffee shops. You know what I mean?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1275">21:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1275" data-t="1275">Yeah, for sure.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1279" data-t="1279">But continue</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1280" data-t="1280">on your first experience with this coffee.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1284">21:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1284" data-t="1284">Yeah, it was really good. I had like five cups back to back right there.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1289" data-t="1289">Yeah, I had.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1291" data-t="1291">You can ask Otis. He saw me drink a whole pot of coffee at one sitting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1295" data-t="1295">And I probably smoked like a half pack of cigarettes while doing it. I mean, it was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1300" data-t="1300">I gotta</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1302" data-t="1302">say, you know, seeing, Mr. CD Brown was fun.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1306">21:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1306" data-t="1306">Yeah, there was a</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1307">21:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1307" data-t="1307">There was a good DJ that was playing the, all the, like, 1990s,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1312" data-t="1312">early two thousands</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1313" data-t="1313">techno on the, jukebox.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1316">21:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1316" data-t="1316">That was Scott Offord.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1319">21:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1319" data-t="1319">Yeah. Yeah. He was Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1321">22:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1321" data-t="1321">Nick</span> <span class="cue" data-t="1321">Foster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1322" data-t="1322">and his family was there.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1325">22:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1325" data-t="1325">A lot of gen a lot of generation X representation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1328" data-t="1328">at Lake Satoshi.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1331">22:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1331" data-t="1331">Yeah. There were definitely some Gen X people. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1335" data-t="1335">There there was, like, a millennial,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1338" data-t="1338">there there wasn't a ton of Zoomers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1341" data-t="1341">I guess the kids.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1342">22:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1342" data-t="1342">Scott's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1344" data-t="1344">Luke Broyles was there. Got to meet Luke Broyles.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1348" data-t="1348">He's he's got a camping festival going on in New Hampshire here coming up soon. I think Neat Creations is going to that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1354" data-t="1354">Larry Lippard, Natalie Brunel, you'd go camping with your favorite podcasters.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1358" data-t="1358">That's kinda like what Lea Satoshi would. Lea Satoshi is kinda like the non compliant version of the New Hampshire camping,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1365" data-t="1365">conference.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1366">22:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1366" data-t="1366">There was a lot of people transacting in Bitcoin, and that was cool.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1370" data-t="1370">I enjoyed seeing that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1372">22:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1372" data-t="1372">I That was nice.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1375" data-t="1375">StacChain Magazine was there.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1377">22:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1377" data-t="1377">StacChain was there. Yeah. I bought a StacChain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1382" data-t="1382">Magazine.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1383" data-t="1383">It was my first one I ever got my hands on. I've been trying to get those guys to send me a copy. I got my article published in there a while ago and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1392" data-t="1392">I was really, really impressed with the quality of it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1396" data-t="1396">It's a very well done</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1398" data-t="1398">magazine. I got the addition with the Asahana Gold</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1403">23:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1403" data-t="1403">cover</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1404" data-t="1404">and it's I think it's great that he's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1408" data-t="1408">working with them. But, yeah, I would I would definitely suggest that people check out Stackchain.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1414" data-t="1414">It is very,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1415" data-t="1415">well done.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1417">23:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1417" data-t="1417">One of my one of my favorites,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1420" data-t="1420">memories from Stack or excuse me, from Lake Satoshi</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1424" data-t="1424">was, walking up to, like, the little value for value market they had going at the front and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1430" data-t="1430">seeing fundamentals. Fundamentals was selling copies of his,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1434" data-t="1434">his book Bitcoin for Institutions.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1436" data-t="1436">He was talking to a lot of people who were interested in his book,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1439">23:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1439" data-t="1439">signing autographs,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1441" data-t="1441">talking about his podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1443" data-t="1443">And I got up there and I went up to his table just to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1446" data-t="1446">just to say hello. And his daughters were sitting behind the, you know, kind of the table there. They were doing math homework, and I think they were listening to his math podcast. I saw that was, like, so great.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1459" data-t="1459">And then then fundamentals told them if they didn't keep focusing on their math homework that they wouldn't be able to, swim in the pool back at the hotel,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1468" data-t="1468">at the end of the day. And I was like, what do you what do you mean hotel fundamentals?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1473">24:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1473" data-t="1473">And he's like, yeah, me and my family,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1475" data-t="1475">my wife would love us go camping because I've been eating too many raw milk cheese and I've got raw milk cheese. They don't want those farts in the tent so we gotta stay in the hotel.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1486" data-t="1486">So we talked about it. He's a little bit ashamed, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1489" data-t="1489">a little bit of stolen valor for plenty of those there. He didn't actually go camping with us, but for everybody else, we duked it out, we suffered. It was pretty chilly at night. You know, it was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1500" data-t="1500">it was not for the week. He chat, you know, he,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1503" data-t="1503">he had a cabin, but,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1505">25:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1505" data-t="1505">somebody clawed his toilet. So it wasn't the greatest experience. Yeah. I thought it was a great event. I had a lot of fun, But, you know, camping is fun. It's just like everywhere you go is a smoking area and that's nice.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1519" data-t="1519">It's nice to be outside.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1521" data-t="1521">Yeah. I mean, pretty much everywhere you walk is a Bitcoin podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1527" data-t="1527">We I mean, we hung out with so many Bitcoin podcasters.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1531" data-t="1531">I I think that's what was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1535" data-t="1535">I'm coming to this realization pretty much all my friends are Bitcoin podcasters.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1540">25:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1540" data-t="1540">That's that's the stage of life I've I've gone into.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1545">25:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1545" data-t="1545">Yeah. It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1546" data-t="1546">there's something to be said when you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1550" data-t="1550">you encounter somebody and you guys can just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1554" data-t="1554">get right into the podcast. You don't have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1556" data-t="1556">to do any intros. You don't have to, you know, ask what their story is. You just, you get right into the podcasting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1563" data-t="1563">And before, you know, it, you know, you've got, you're sitting around a fire with a dozen other people</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1569">26:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1569" data-t="1569">and everybody's just, it's almost like Clubhouse.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1572" data-t="1572">It's like a Bitcoin podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1574" data-t="1574">needs Clubhouse,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1575" data-t="1575">but it's in real life.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1578">26:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1578" data-t="1578">It's like a why are you bullish episode</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1581" data-t="1581">with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1582" data-t="1582">BTC sessions,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1584" data-t="1584">but,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1585" data-t="1585">much more interesting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1589">26:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1589" data-t="1589">Exactly. It was incredibly bullish. It was incredibly bullish.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1593" data-t="1593">And we're gonna get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1595" data-t="1595">gonna get some behind the podcast interviews from the, podcasting we did</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1600" data-t="1600">at Lake Satoshi</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1601" data-t="1601">coming up.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1603">26:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1603" data-t="1603">Definitely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1605" data-t="1605">Yeah. I'm excited. I'm excited about,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1608" data-t="1608">I I had a great time. I mean, today, I think the the stuff that the Machinal is doing is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1616" data-t="1616">pretty</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1617" data-t="1617">important.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1619" data-t="1619">And, it was fun to participate in that a bit. I met SolEx.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1623">27:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1623" data-t="1623">SolEx was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1625" data-t="1625">a cool guy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1626" data-t="1626">We had a conversation about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1628" data-t="1628">how I could teach him how to speak American, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1634" data-t="1634">I'm not gonna do a So, I'm not John, so I can't do a Sol X impression. He does like a Sol X impression almost every episode on the Ungovernable Misfits.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1643" data-t="1643">But yeah, I mean,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1645">27:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1645" data-t="1645">there wasn't a ton of grumpiness about paper Bitcoin at</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1649" data-t="1649">Lake Satoshi. It was because everybody was, you know, like trying to actively participate in things. You know what I mean?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1657" data-t="1657">They were focused. There were I think a lot of these guys that are grumpy right now,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1662" data-t="1662">they're grumpy because they just don't have anything better to do. Like, they've got too much time in their hands and that's why they're going on Twitter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1668" data-t="1668">Platteader has way too much time on his hands.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1671" data-t="1671">He's not listening to forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts a week. He's not actually contributing in anything to the economy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1679">27:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1679" data-t="1679">He's not on the mesh, Adele.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1682">28:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1682" data-t="1682">He's got Yeah. He's not he's not in any he's not providing any value</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1686" data-t="1686">to the value for value community.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1688" data-t="1688">The editor is active. He likes to post. He likes to complain,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1692" data-t="1692">but he doesn't provide any value.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1694" data-t="1694">And I think when you don't provide any value, you don't really get much in return.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1699" data-t="1699">And I didn't make it make you grumpy. So I think that if you do not think if you are not receiving any value from Bitcoin,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1707">28:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1707" data-t="1707">That's on you bro because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1709" data-t="1709">Bitcoin is providing value to people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1711" data-t="1711">to corporations,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1712" data-t="1712">to politicians,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1714" data-t="1714">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1715" data-t="1715">merchants,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1716">28:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1716" data-t="1716">to energy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1718" data-t="1718">utility. It's providing so much value to people. And if it's not providing value to you and you're grumpy about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1723" data-t="1723">it, maybe you should ask yourself why. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1729">28:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1729" data-t="1729">I mean, there's reasons to be grumpy when you just make your identity around being grumpy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1733" data-t="1733">That's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1735" data-t="1735">like Yeah. If you Quin Icarus. Yeah. Quin Quin Icarus could have been in Lake Satoshi,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1741" data-t="1741">but instead he was being grumpy interviewing Kit's ads about being grumpy about paper Bitcoin. That's true. Yeah. It's when you have</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1749">29:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1749" data-t="1749">when all you have is a hammer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1751" data-t="1751">everything looks like a nail. And when you all you have is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1755" data-t="1755">the only toolset you have in culture or laughter is to be grumpy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1760" data-t="1760">Everything,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1761" data-t="1761">everybody, every post looks like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1764" data-t="1764">a good,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1765">29:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1765" data-t="1765">quote tweet to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1768" data-t="1768">to dunk on them or to criticize them or to complain about them. And, you know, it's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1773" data-t="1773">I I joked the other day on Twitter I said,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1776" data-t="1776">Bitcoin is a tool that individuals can use for to accomplish any of their goals</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1782" data-t="1782">and to improve their lives. And Platter uses Bitcoin as a tool to make sure he never makes any friends.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1788">29:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1788" data-t="1788">And then this just you hate to see it. We we saw kind of a glimpse of the future</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1794" data-t="1794">of what what these grumpy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1797" data-t="1797">bad memeing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1798" data-t="1798">Bitcoin people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1799" data-t="1799">are are gonna look like. Angela McCardell showed up</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1803" data-t="1803">at the event. And if you guys don't know who Angela McCardell is,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1807">30:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1807" data-t="1807">she was the former</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1809" data-t="1809">chair of the Libertarian Party who recently</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1814" data-t="1814">resigned in the midst of a bunch of controversy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1817" data-t="1817">Her bigger</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1819" data-t="1819">accomplishments</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1820" data-t="1820">included</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1821">30:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1821" data-t="1821">getting Donald Trump to speak</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1823" data-t="1823">at the Libertarian</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1825" data-t="1825">Convention.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1826" data-t="1826">And, I think she's taking credit for freeing Ross.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1833" data-t="1833">I don't know if the credit's due to her.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1836" data-t="1836">I I</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1837">30:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1837" data-t="1837">I yeah. I don't know who that credit goes to, but on that one I I would give the credit to Lynn's mom,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1843" data-t="1843">you know, or sorry, Ross's mom, Lynn.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1848" data-t="1848">She she was the reason why Ross was freed, essentially, not Angela McCardell. But, you know, she was sitting there and she's talking about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1856" data-t="1856">all these things she did.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1858" data-t="1858">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1859" data-t="1859">and it was just like, you know, they I don't know. You know, when I see a libertarian and I just see, like</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1868">31:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1868" data-t="1868">Did you wanna see what winning does not look like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1872" data-t="1872">in the in the next cycle?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1875" data-t="1875">Go to, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1876" data-t="1876">a a libertarian meme page from, like, 2014</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1880" data-t="1880">and just and just scroll through that account. That is not what winning looks like. The Libertarian party</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1886" data-t="1886">is not what winning looks like, especially not in the new in the in this next few years.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1892">31:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1892" data-t="1892">So it's like if you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1894" data-t="1894">if you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1895" data-t="1895">if your mindset, if your perspective is still being shaped</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1899" data-t="1899">by a 2014</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1900" data-t="1900">libertarian meme pages,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1902" data-t="1902">it's you're probably gonna have a pretty grumpy future. You're probably gonna be pretty grumpy next cycle because I don't see how</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1910">31:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1910" data-t="1910">things are gonna transpire</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1912" data-t="1912">in any realistic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1914" data-t="1914">fashion that's gonna make you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1916" data-t="1916">not,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1917" data-t="1917">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1918" data-t="1918">blind and bitch about</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1920">31:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1920" data-t="1920">it every day on the timeline.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1924">32:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1924" data-t="1924">These grumpy people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1926" data-t="1926">they I think they have two there's just been like a trope that like, the libertarians have been the long term, like, grumpy people. So, like, there's this joke that, like, the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1936" data-t="1936">the Democrats and the Republicans are the same, except the Republicans just want the Democrats to drive the speed limit, which I think is a pretty good joke. And the libertarians are the ones that are trying to pump the brakes even faster than the Republicans.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1950" data-t="1950">But it's all trending in the same way. And I feel like that's kind of what these grumpy people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1955" data-t="1955">are kinda like I I feel like, you know, the Libertarian party is kinda like you're a senior in high school</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1961" data-t="1961">that's playing on the JV team</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1963">32:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1963" data-t="1963">in football.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1964" data-t="1964">You know what I mean?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1966" data-t="1966">Like, you you you're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1968" data-t="1968">and you're getting you're getting stomped on by, like, freshmen.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1971" data-t="1971">Like, you're you're just a you're you're not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1974" data-t="1974">one of the winners. You're not one of the top</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1977">32:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1977" data-t="1977">players Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1979">32:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1979" data-t="1979">In the game. And, like, you know, I feel like if you're a senior and you're playing JV football,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1984" data-t="1984">you should probably, like, go do something that, like, is better use of your time. You know what I mean? You like the JV teams for, like, the little kids,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1993" data-t="1993">but you're you're about like, you're the you're the age at which the government could,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2001" data-t="2001">a lot you know, take you and send you across the ocean, you know, to go die in a war.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2007" data-t="2007">You're not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2009" data-t="2009">like a 14 year old kid anymore. You know what I mean? Right. And I and I think</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2015">33:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2015" data-t="2015">that's kind of the future that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2018" data-t="2018">that people have. Like, you know, the people that change the world are not the people that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2023" data-t="2023">are grumpy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2025" data-t="2025">Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2027" data-t="2027">maybe grumpiness isn't the best word, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2032" data-t="2032">Yeah. It's better at Mimi. You know what I mean? You you can't be on the JV team.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2037">33:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2037" data-t="2037">You, this is the fundamental problem is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2040" data-t="2040">libertarians</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2041" data-t="2041">need to learn</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2043" data-t="2043">and understand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2044" data-t="2044">the rules</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2046" data-t="2046">because they are they're,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2048">34:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2048" data-t="2048">they're ostensibly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2049" data-t="2049">trying to play the game</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2051" data-t="2051">their own way. They just don't understand the rules.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2054" data-t="2054">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2055" data-t="2055">you got to learn that you can just do things. And we're, libertarians</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2059" data-t="2059">like to be cranky, and they like to complain, and they like to play the victim, and they like to st- they like to blame everybody else for not following the rules.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2069">34:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2069" data-t="2069">But it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2070" data-t="2070">the final problem is you can't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2073" data-t="2073">they misunderstand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2074" data-t="2074">what the rules are, so they think that pointing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2077" data-t="2077">out and and pointing out hypocrisy and pointing out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2081" data-t="2081">things that</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2082">34:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2082" data-t="2082">are, you know, they fail a purity test.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2085" data-t="2085">They think that that's the rule. Like if you fail a purity test, then you don't get to succeed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2090" data-t="2090">And that's not true. And so it's just they don't understand the rules so they're just if you're gonna participate in this game,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2097" data-t="2097">you have to understand the rules. And then you have to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2101" data-t="2101">be the one</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2103">35:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2103" data-t="2103">who writes those rules if you ever want those rules to be enforced. That's a good point. And it's kind of like, you know, the mashadels is like a good example of this. People just going out and doing things.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2114" data-t="2114">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2116" data-t="2116">I think it's cool.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2118">35:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2118" data-t="2118">And I just yeah. It's and here's the thing. I get what I'm saying might</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2123" data-t="2123">be off putting to libertarians because libertarians hate rules.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2128" data-t="2128">But so you have to learn that there has to be rules</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2131" data-t="2131">in a citadel, there has to be rules on a homestead, there has to be rules</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2135" data-t="2135">in society</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2137" data-t="2137">to some extent,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2138">35:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2138" data-t="2138">and they have to be enforced,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2140" data-t="2140">you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2141" data-t="2141">attentively,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2143" data-t="2143">and and rationally.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2144" data-t="2144">So, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2146" data-t="2146">you have to get comfortable with rules. You just, you just don't want the, the state to be getting control of those rules. So you want to be the one that enforces</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2153">35:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2153" data-t="2153">those rules. Well, I think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2156" data-t="2156">yeah, I think there's, there, there's a few different philosophies and I think where the libertarians and like, like a lot of these grumpy Bitcoin maximalists</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2164" data-t="2164">coincide with each other</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2166" data-t="2166">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2167" data-t="2167">So the hardcore status just believes in rolling through coercion.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2172" data-t="2172">But the libertarian</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2174">36:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2174" data-t="2174">and most of these Bitcoin maximalists,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2176" data-t="2176">they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2177" data-t="2177">concluded</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2178" data-t="2178">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2179" data-t="2179">in many ways, coercion is just tyranny. And so, they don't like it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2183" data-t="2183">But</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2184">36:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2184" data-t="2184">they still want to rule over somebody, but they want to do it in a voluntary way. So, what they try to do, what they both try to do is they try to roll through purity tests.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2194" data-t="2194">And they think that through social pressures, they can accomplish the same goals.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2198" data-t="2198">But the status</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2200" data-t="2200">have realized</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2202" data-t="2202">I think they have a more accurate depiction</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2205" data-t="2205">of reality, which you're not gonna stop a murderer with purity tests.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2209">36:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2209" data-t="2209">You're not gonna stop a guy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2212" data-t="2212">creating a Ponzi scheme with a purity test. You're not gonna stop a communist with a purity test. Like, these people, they don't care. They're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2220" data-t="2220">criminals. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2222" data-t="2222">I think the third option is you just,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2226" data-t="2226">you create your little niche that you operate in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2230" data-t="2230">as an individual on a micro scale, and then you,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2234">37:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2234" data-t="2234">have agreed set upon rules,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2237" data-t="2237">and then you coerce people on a micro level that you've all agreed to the rules. Like, If we catch somebody vaping, we're gonna cut their dick off or something.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2248">37:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2248" data-t="2248">Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2251" data-t="2251">a 100%.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2252" data-t="2252">It is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2254" data-t="2254">well, I think where you start to turn this around,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2259" data-t="2259">is if is taking self,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2261" data-t="2261">responsibility,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2262">37:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2262" data-t="2262">accountability</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2264" data-t="2264">for yourself and your family. Like, it starts at home. It starts within you. You know, Jordan Peterson talked about make your own bed. If you can't even make your own bed, like, the rest of your day doesn't matter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2275" data-t="2275">So we</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2277" data-t="2277">your home citadel, your homestead, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2279" data-t="2279">it starts with, like, your relationship with your wife.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2282" data-t="2282">And we we got into this conversation with Carl at Lake Satoshi, and he he was talking about,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2288">38:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2288" data-t="2288">you know, he, like, he has to listen to forty hours of podcast per week, but he has a very demanding job. He's gotta be out taking care of his property, living off the grid, living in a social,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2298" data-t="2298">capital,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2299" data-t="2299">circular economy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2302" data-t="2302">Somebody hit him. His wife got walkie talkies. So, like, there somebody's feeding the feeding the animals, somebody else is cleaning out the barn, somebody's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2311" data-t="2311">adjusting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2312" data-t="2312">the the miners to to to try some crops and some spices and some cannabis</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2319">38:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2319" data-t="2319">Today in terms of these walkie talkies and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2321" data-t="2321">it is a great idea if you have like a very if you taught your wife walkie talkie offset, but there's a lot of us out there</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2328" data-t="2328">who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2330" data-t="2330">if we gave our wives walkie talkies, we would just be getting an unfiltered</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2335" data-t="2335">never ending stream of wife's lot stories and ideas from our wives over walkie talkie. Every time she had an idea, every time she saw a raccoonoon, she would be telling you over the walkie talkie. She wouldn't have tight comms</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2346" data-t="2346">like a</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2347">39:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2347" data-t="2347">like an orange beret.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2349" data-t="2349">But there is a training course</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2352" data-t="2352">that,</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2352">is is coming up that will it it it's a walkie talkie etiquette, walkie talkie OPSEC training course for wives.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2361" data-t="2361">Do you think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2362" data-t="2362">oh, do you think, you know, guys who are considering</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2366">39:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2366" data-t="2366">giving their wives walkie talkies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2368" data-t="2368">should should look into this OPSEC training for their wives? Do you think that they'd be glad they did?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2374">39:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2374" data-t="2374">Babe, this Taylor Swift listen to podcast?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2377" data-t="2377">Babe, I'm hot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2380" data-t="2380">Woah. I just saw a big bird.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2384">39:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kailey Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2384" data-t="2384">It's happening all over the world, ladies and gentlemen.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2386" data-t="2386">Husbands who gave their wives walkie talkies so they could coordinate proof of work in their citadels are feeling buyer's remorse as they're forced to endure boring,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2394" data-t="2394">out of context, unfiltered wife slop through their walkie talkies each day.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2399" data-t="2399">If this sounds like your experience, the forty hours per week foundation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2403" data-t="2403">has a walkie talkie OPSEC training course for wives that will teach your wife walkie talkie etiquette</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2408" data-t="2408">so you can get back to work and, most importantly,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2410">40:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kailey Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2410" data-t="2410">get back to listening to Bitcoin podcasts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2413" data-t="2413">Your wife will learn valuable new tools like mindfulness and the ability to recognize when she's considering sharing wife's slop with you while you're listening to Stefan Lavera</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2421" data-t="2421">explain concepts like accretive dilution. She will also learn new techniques to help her omit unnecessary details from her stories</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2428" data-t="2428">and get to the point as well as how to avoid getting sidetracked and communicating more clearly and concisely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2433" data-t="2433">Wives will also receive training on communicating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2436" data-t="2436">logically.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2437">40:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kailey Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2437" data-t="2437">Walkie talkie training for wives is worth the sats. Head over to 40hpw.com</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2442" data-t="2442">today to learn how your wife can gain the comms discipline of Navy SEALs and help your homestead become more thermodynamically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2448" data-t="2448">sound.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2450">40:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2450" data-t="2450">I think it's a good idea, and,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2455" data-t="2455">I think it should be mandatory</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2457" data-t="2457">in your citadel. But</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2460" data-t="2460">yeah. You know, Jordan Peterson, I think, has, like, been a huge part of creating this army of incels</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2467" data-t="2467">and been a part of this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2469" data-t="2469">phenomenon, essentially, that has led to Nick Fuentes,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2472">41:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2472" data-t="2472">you know, becoming popular, like the king of the incels.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2478" data-t="2478">He is telling all these young men to make their beds in the morning.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2485" data-t="2485">And so there's there's they're wasting all this time making their beds.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2490" data-t="2490">When in reality,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2492" data-t="2492">their goal should be to get married so their wives can make their beds for them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2497" data-t="2497">They don't need to learn how to make their bed. Like, the the the chances of the wife outliving the man</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2504">41:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2504" data-t="2504">are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2505" data-t="2505">extremely,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2506" data-t="2506">extremely high to the point where it just doesn't it's like one of those skills that's really never</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2512" data-t="2512">worth learning. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2514" data-t="2514">you know, there there's all this emphasis there was all this emphasis in military schools about making your bed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2520" data-t="2520">Right?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2521">42:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2521" data-t="2521">And I think a lot of military dads You look at the children of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2526" data-t="2526">people that were in the military,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2528" data-t="2528">oftentimes being poorly adjusted.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2531" data-t="2531">It's because you got these dads</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2533" data-t="2533">that are running their households</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2535" data-t="2535">like drill sergeants,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2538">42:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2538" data-t="2538">like, sure, you should teach your daughter how to make their bed so that they can make their husband's bed for her, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2545" data-t="2545">your sons.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2546">42:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2546" data-t="2546">Thank you.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2548" data-t="2548">It is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2551" data-t="2551">if you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2553" data-t="2553">as a man,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2555" data-t="2555">especially after</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2557" data-t="2557">school and college or whatever,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2560">42:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2560" data-t="2560">If you as a man are doing your own laundry,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2563" data-t="2563">you're washing your bed sheets every week, you're making your own bed, you're making your own meals, you become like, you feel like you're suck. You have no incentive</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2574" data-t="2574">to getting married and having a wife.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2576" data-t="2576">Your wife there's a woman out there who is just waiting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2581" data-t="2581">to to find a man who she can do his laundry, fold his clothes, make his bed for him, cook for him, and just do all those those chores around the house. Be a good homemaker. Be a good citadel,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2593" data-t="2593">wife.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2595">43:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2595" data-t="2595">And these guys are just blowing right past them. It's how much more time would you have to listen to podcasts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2601" data-t="2601">to be a good father,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2602" data-t="2602">to help your children listen to podcasts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2605" data-t="2605">to listen to podcasts with your children, to smoke cigarettes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2609" data-t="2609">and listen to Bitcoin podcasts on your homestead with your children?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2613" data-t="2613">If you</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2615">43:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2615" data-t="2615">outsourced, if you let your wife do those those chores for you and like that is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2621" data-t="2621">the traditional family, that is what the citadels will be like and this is what Bitcoin does, this is how Bitcoin fixes families</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2629" data-t="2629">and fixes communities.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2630" data-t="2630">And so Jordan Peterson is kind of this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2634" data-t="2634">it's a disguise</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2636" data-t="2636">ideology</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2638">43:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2638" data-t="2638">that that it seems beneficial to a young man. But all it is doing is depriving him of incentives</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2644" data-t="2644">to get married,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2646" data-t="2646">depriving him of an incentive to have a wife.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2649" data-t="2649">And it is it's it's destroying</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2651" data-t="2651">our society. It's destroying our culture.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2654">44:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2654" data-t="2654">I mean, there would be a much higher likelihood of marriages working out, you know, because they're like, if a man</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2660" data-t="2660">knows</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2661" data-t="2661">It feels nice</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2662" data-t="2662">to have your bed made,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2664" data-t="2664">to go lay down in your bed at night when it was made. There's a reason why you make your bed so that bugs don't climb into it and stuff like that. It just keeps the sheets cleaner.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2674" data-t="2674">Like</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2675">44:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2675" data-t="2675">there's actual purpose to making your bed, but like, you know, a man</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2679" data-t="2679">who knows how to make his own bed,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2682" data-t="2682">you know, is going to use that potentially as an out to not deal with the frustrations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2687" data-t="2687">and whatever are in the marriage. Whereas if the man realizes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2692" data-t="2692">Hey, fuck.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2693" data-t="2693">I don't know how to make my bed. If this marriage doesn't work out, it's gonna be catastrophic.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2698">44:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2698" data-t="2698">It used</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2700" data-t="2700">to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2701" data-t="2701">that if you saw a man who knew how to iron his own clothes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2706" data-t="2706">make his own bed,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2709" data-t="2709">vacuum clean his apartment or his house,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2712" data-t="2712">you'd just take care of himself,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2715">45:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2715" data-t="2715">fashionably.</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2715">It was like, that guy's gay.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2718" data-t="2718">If this guy's gay, he doesn't he doesn't need a woman, he doesn't need a wife, he doesn't want a wife, he he's gay.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2724" data-t="2724">And now we see that. We're like, oh, that's just a,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2727" data-t="2727">well, a a high functioning</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2730" data-t="2730">single adult male. No. We need to go back to calling men who make their own beds</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2735">45:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2735" data-t="2735">and and and iron their own clothes. They're gay. Because that's what they are. So we can let women know, like, these guys are not on the market. These guys are not looking for wives. These guys are gay.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2747" data-t="2747">And the rest of us can walk around in our wrinkly Bitcoin podcast t shirts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2752" data-t="2752">and attract the women who are looking for husbands.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2757">45:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2757" data-t="2757">Yeah. Very well said. Very well said.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2761" data-t="2761">Yeah. I think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2763" data-t="2763">yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2764" data-t="2764">Guys that know how to make their own beds are gay.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2767" data-t="2767">Jordan Peterson's trying to I mean, look at look at Alex Fespe.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2772" data-t="2772">He he constantly references how much he loves Jordan Peterson.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2776">46:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2776" data-t="2776">And and he knows how to make his own bed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2779" data-t="2779">And look how frustrated he is. Look how frustrated he is at women</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2784" data-t="2784">in general.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2786">46:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2786" data-t="2786">Why do you think Jordan Peterson breaks down and cries all the time and gets so emotional?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2791" data-t="2791">Because making his own bed for so long</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2794" data-t="2794">has just it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2796" data-t="2796">the estrogen in his body has accumulated. It's compounded. Every time you make your bed, estrogen compounds</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2802" data-t="2802">in your</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2804" data-t="2804">the estrogen is temporary. It it goes away. Like you can have a pump of estrogen and it goes away. But the changes that it makes to your DNA,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2811">46:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2811" data-t="2811">every time that estrogen pumps to your body, like it's like like the when your body injects insulin and eventually you get insulin resistance. Your body is being pumped full of estrogen every time you make your bed instead of letting your wife do it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2824" data-t="2824">And that that changes who you are as a person. You become more emotional. You cry. And that's the kind of future that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2832" data-t="2832">Spetsky is facing if he doesn't figure this out.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2837">47:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2837" data-t="2837">Absolutely.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2838" data-t="2838">I mean, it's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2839" data-t="2839">these conservative podcasters are just bad as the leftist podcasters.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2845">47:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2845" data-t="2845">Yeah. It's savage. It's almost</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2848">47:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2848" data-t="2848">Well, that's kind of the realization everybody's coming to. Because I I I feel like, you know, when the the right wing in America was just getting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2861" data-t="2861">absolutely decimated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2862" data-t="2862">for years and years, especially through, like, the COVID years,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2866" data-t="2866">people had a much higher tolerance for, like, bad right wing podcasters.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2870" data-t="2870">You know what I mean? Like, Ben Shapiro was, like, tolerated.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2874" data-t="2874">Matt Wallace was like, everybody involved with the Daily Wire was tolerated.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2879">47:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2879" data-t="2879">And and now they're coming to the realization that all these guys just suck. And they're, like, just as bad as, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2888" data-t="2888">Mike Brock or or Destiny or, you know, whatever the the left wing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2893" data-t="2893">intellectual voice is. Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2896" data-t="2896">Tim Pool sucks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2898" data-t="2898">Like, it's it's incredible when you are in such</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2903" data-t="2903">you're in the complete realm of insanity</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2907">48:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2907" data-t="2907">that</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2907">that lesser insanity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2909" data-t="2909">seems sane.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2910" data-t="2910">And then as the Overton window</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2913" data-t="2913">shifts, then you see</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2916" data-t="2916">the actual context of, like, these people were never that interesting or exciting. They were just more palatable because the other people were so</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2923">48:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2923" data-t="2923">so crazy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2925">48:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2925" data-t="2925">Right. And this is this is the risk. This is the big risk of society right now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2930" data-t="2930">because when it gets to these two extremes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2933" data-t="2933">it's always the same. It's left versus right. And the the last iteration of that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2938" data-t="2938">for the past few centuries or the past four turnings</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2942" data-t="2942">is communist versus fascism.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2944" data-t="2944">And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2945">49:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2945" data-t="2945">when you are getting down to which one is just more palatable versus which one actually aligns with my values, like this how do I want society to be structured? I've outsourced it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2956" data-t="2956">to culture instead of taking an active role myself.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2960" data-t="2960">You see a fascist versus communism and the fascists are hot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2964" data-t="2964">They're hot. They're hot. They look good. They have good genes, quote</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2968" data-t="2968">unquote.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2970" data-t="2970">They have big tits.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2972">49:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2972" data-t="2972">They have beautiful smiles. They're never grumpy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2975" data-t="2975">They they they look like they take care of things. And, yeah, the communist is just fat blue haired slobs,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2982" data-t="2982">you know, dudes with hairy chests trying to go into women's bathrooms,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2986" data-t="2986">fucking Zoran Manti,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2988" data-t="2988">you know, the progressive Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2990" data-t="2990">podcast, like, it's just it's disgusting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2994">49:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2994" data-t="2994">Who who are people gonna side with? They're gonna side with the more palatable one, which is the people who are hot.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3001">50:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3001" data-t="3001">I think in the modern day and I think this happened historically. I I think a big driver of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3009" data-t="3009">whether your culture should adopt communism</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3012" data-t="3012">or fascism is just depending on certain cultural customs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3016" data-t="3016">So you look like like communism's, like, great for Asians. And it's because Asians are short. And you can just like pack them into small places, a bunch of them at a time. And there's so many of them. And that's like, that's how communism is. You know what I mean? They don't eat as much food. Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3032" data-t="3032">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3034" data-t="3034">you know, whereas like us Westerners, we like our space</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3037">50:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3037" data-t="3037">a lot more. We're larger. We're we're taller individuals.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3042" data-t="3042">And so,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3044" data-t="3044">like, fascism fits that way. And then you see the breakdown of fascism versus communism in The United States,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3051" data-t="3051">where, like, communists are all centered around the cities. Like, they're all packed on top of each other.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3057" data-t="3057">So they just like things that way. They don't feel that sense of autonomy that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3063" data-t="3063">a rancher</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3064">51:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3064" data-t="3064">feels on his two fifty acre property in West Texas. Or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3069" data-t="3069">not West Texas. I don't know. There's probably not But you're riding the subway full of</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3075">51:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3075" data-t="3075">people,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3076" data-t="3076">stinky</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3078" data-t="3078">degenerates, people who don't listen to podcasts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3081" data-t="3081">It's a lot you just have a lot different perspective,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3084" data-t="3084">a lot different sense of your own identity</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3087" data-t="3087">than if you're a trucker who is driving down the, you know, through the mountains and down country roads in your big, you know, 18 wheeler, your own rig, you got your bid ax, you're, you know, smoking cigarettes, listening to podcasts, just it's just a much different experience.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3104">51:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3104" data-t="3104">You're more likely to accept</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3106" data-t="3106">that you can't have air conditioning</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3108" data-t="3108">or that you should use less water so the AI,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3112" data-t="3112">can have more access to water. And you're used to having blackouts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3116" data-t="3116">because everything is being fed to the state and to the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3120" data-t="3120">the the corporations who are laundering money for the state. And it's it the use don't mind. You're used to it, like you said. But</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3127">52:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3127" data-t="3127">if you got an acre ranch, you got a homestead. You and your wife were using watchy talkies to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3133" data-t="3133">coordinate the farm, like, you just you're you're gonna pick fascism for sure.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3140">52:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3140" data-t="3140">Yeah. I mean, the like, any</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3143" data-t="3143">you know, I think it comes down to so, like, you look a lot of these people on the left, they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3147" data-t="3147">they have mental</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3149" data-t="3149">health issues or most of them are mentally ill. I would argue that communism is mental illness.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3154" data-t="3154">I'd argue that fascism is too, but, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3157" data-t="3157">like, communism is a little bit more apparent,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3161">52:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3161" data-t="3161">more disruptive. You know, a lot of them, they don't want kids. They don't really care.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3165" data-t="3165">They're they're nihilistic.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3166" data-t="3166">They don't really care. You know, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3168" data-t="3168">anybody that knows anything about communism knows that there's a very high chance that once your team wins, that you're gonna get executed and purged as there's power consolidation.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3180" data-t="3180">And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3181" data-t="3181">you know, you you see Canada is a communist country, and they,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3185">53:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3185" data-t="3185">you know, one of the first things that they're doing is they're they're legalizing assisted suicide, which</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3191" data-t="3191">and and they're trying to push it on their populace.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3194" data-t="3194">So they're just prepping. They're prepping for, like, that tipping point where they hit the full communism, where they could start doing the purges. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3202" data-t="3202">you know, you can argue</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3205" data-t="3205">that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3206" data-t="3206">you know, fighting for communists to take control of power is engaging</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3212">53:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3212" data-t="3212">in assisted</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3214">53:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3214" data-t="3214">suicide. Yeah. Exactly. Like, New York City. New York City is doing that. It's like New York City, the mood of the reason</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3221" data-t="3221">that people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3223" data-t="3223">want to elect Zoran Mamdani is it's like this collective understanding that New York needs to be punished</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3230" data-t="3230">or that New York</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3231" data-t="3231">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3232" data-t="3232">not</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3233">53:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3233" data-t="3233">it's it's it's, fatalistic.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3237" data-t="3237">And it's it is like assisted suicide.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3240" data-t="3240">And the other way, other things the Canadian government is doing is debanking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3245" data-t="3245">truckers. And so, like, this is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3247" data-t="3247">disproportionately and they've done this in the past. Justin Trudeau's government did it,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3252" data-t="3252">where</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3253">54:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3253" data-t="3253">the people who are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3254" data-t="3254">most likely to be listening to podcasts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3257" data-t="3257">to be doing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3259" data-t="3259">positive things and growing an influence in their communities,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3263" data-t="3263">they're being punished. They're being cut off for, by the state. And people who like to go hiking, but you can't go hiking in Nova Scotia. There are the other province near there,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3273" data-t="3273">right now because hikers who listen to podcasts apparently,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3277">54:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3277" data-t="3277">are dangerous for the climate and there's wildfires.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3280" data-t="3280">So they're just they're attacking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3283" data-t="3283">I don't even think they're deliberately attacking Bitcoin podcast listeners.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3287" data-t="3287">I think it's just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3289" data-t="3289">they are attack they are simply attacking their opposition.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3293">54:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3293" data-t="3293">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3295" data-t="3295">Another thing about communists is, like, a lot of these countries that you see that are communist, they've been slaughtered</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3302" data-t="3302">over and over for a very long time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3304" data-t="3304">And, like, North Korea, you know, just got raped by Japan, raped by, you know, all these outside cultures, just trampled</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3313" data-t="3313">on, makes sense that they're communist. Chinese, same way.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3318" data-t="3318">Russia,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3319">55:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3319" data-t="3319">you know, they lost a lot of wars.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3322" data-t="3322">And I think I think, like, the populist comes to this conclusion.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3326" data-t="3326">It's like, hey. We're gonna be slaughtered. We wanna slaughter ourselves.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3330" data-t="3330">You know? We wanna be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3332" data-t="3332">the ones</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3334" data-t="3334">controlling</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3335">55:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3335" data-t="3335">our own destiny. Transition our kids. We wanna castrate our kids. We wanna make sure that our</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3340" data-t="3340">kids transition and can never we feel we regret reproducing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3345" data-t="3345">and we're gonna kill it, here. It ends with us.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3349" data-t="3349">And we're gonna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3351" data-t="3351">yeah, exactly. It's it's it's you can boil it down with a joke. You don't let somebody pick a movie</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3357" data-t="3357">when you know they're gonna fall asleep five minutes into it starting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3361">56:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3361" data-t="3361">You know, you if they're not gonna watch the movie, they don't get to pick it. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3366" data-t="3366">it's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3367" data-t="3367">yeah, it's don't we can't go to communism.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3371" data-t="3371">It is suicide. It is the sacrifice to Moloch.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3374">56:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3374" data-t="3374">Well, I don't think I think I I think The United States is definitely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3378" data-t="3378">inevitably gonna move towards this direction of fascism more than communism because,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3384" data-t="3384">America, you know, won</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3386" data-t="3386">World War two. They were the winners. And, like, when you define victory in World War two, everybody gets it wrong.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3392" data-t="3392">So, like, people like to say the the allies won</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3395" data-t="3395">World War two. Like, the Soviets didn't win World War two.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3399">56:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3399" data-t="3399">They got they had their population</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3401" data-t="3401">decimated.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3404" data-t="3404">Their economy decimated. You know, the the British didn't win World War two.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3409" data-t="3409">They lost the world reserve currency. The United States gained the reserve world currency</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3416" data-t="3416">from World War two. Europe just got fucked,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3419" data-t="3419">by it, which is why, you know, Germany got fucked, obviously.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3424">57:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3424" data-t="3424">The the Russian soldiers made sure to rape, like, every single German citizen,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3430" data-t="3430">And that's why they wanna become communist. You know what I mean? The United States has the belief</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3436" data-t="3436">that they won the war,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3438" data-t="3438">and therefore,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3439" data-t="3439">they wanna be fascist. And you look at a lot of these other countries,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3443" data-t="3443">you know, they they kinda have the similar beliefs. And, like, I think,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3447">57:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3447" data-t="3447">you know, part of the reason why Putin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3449" data-t="3449">wanted to invade Ukraine and win that war</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3453" data-t="3453">was so that Russia didn't go communist,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3456" data-t="3456">and that they they had a victory and they're like, okay, we can be fascist now.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3462">57:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3462" data-t="3462">Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's I think that's pretty and people are looking at</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3467" data-t="3467">and, you know, they're looking at survival right now. They're looking at it's game theory.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3473" data-t="3473">They're looking at Israel. And they're looking at, hey, Israel strikes first.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3477" data-t="3477">Fast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3478" data-t="3478">hot, quick,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3480" data-t="3480">ask questions later.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3482">58:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3482" data-t="3482">And I don't know, you know, people are thinking I don't know if that's right or wrong. I can't see through the psyop online.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3488" data-t="3488">I do know it is effective. They are winning. They are controlling.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3492" data-t="3492">So maybe we have to be more</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3495" data-t="3495">like that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3496" data-t="3496">And I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3499" data-t="3499">it's a very</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3501">58:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3501" data-t="3501">troubling-</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3502" data-t="3502">when a society starts thinking that way, you're going to cause a lot of disagreements internally and it's going to draw you from the inside if you do not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3511" data-t="3511">come to an agreement on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3515" data-t="3515">are the did the ends justify the means right now? Mossad has been running</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3520">58:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3520" data-t="3520">circles around all the other intelligence agencies in the world.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3525" data-t="3525">And I think Donald Trump's pissed about it to some degree. I think he's feeling jealous.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3530" data-t="3530">Like, South Park was making fun of him having a little bit of having a little dick,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3535" data-t="3535">recently,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3537" data-t="3537">because the CIA under his control has just been super pathetic.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3541" data-t="3541">And, you know, he's directing all this energy at the cartels. Like, I think he's trying to show up Mossad</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3547">59:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3547" data-t="3547">right now. And it would be pretty fascinating if we saw</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3552" data-t="3552">something more dramatic than the than the whole pager incident.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3557" data-t="3557">Like, imagine if Donald Trump</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3559" data-t="3559">blew up every single hardware wallet that the Mexican drug cartel had simultaneously.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3564">59:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3564" data-t="3564">It'd be a lot of Bitcoin value would be lost in the in indication like that. It would be very disruptive.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3572" data-t="3572">Yeah. It's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3574">59:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3574" data-t="3574">I mean, think think about the tactical strategy of that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3577" data-t="3577">The cartel owns a lot of Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3580" data-t="3580">and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3583">59:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3583" data-t="3583">Well, chain analysis could just say, hey, This is who this is Dan Palantir. This is who that owns this address, and then they just figure out based on some sort of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3592" data-t="3592">you know, other information they got from their IP. Oh, these are these are the hardware walls. This is where they're located. The pings are coming from these, towers.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3600" data-t="3600">Just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3601" data-t="3601">carpet bomb</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3602" data-t="3602">this or, you know, sell all these,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3604" data-t="3604">treasures, these cold cards,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3606">1:00:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3606" data-t="3606">whatever, to explode.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3609">1:00:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3609" data-t="3609">It'd be interesting to see if the cartel has their seed phrases,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3612" data-t="3612">backed up properly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3614" data-t="3614">But theoretically,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3615" data-t="3615">so, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3616" data-t="3616">maybe this is why Trump has been waiting to go full steam on the strategic Bitcoin reserve is he's wanting to, you know, blow up all of his,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3625" data-t="3625">enemy's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3626">1:00:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3626" data-t="3626">hardware walls first to make Bitcoin more valuable.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3629">1:00:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3629" data-t="3629">That'd be that'd be wise decision.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3633" data-t="3633">It'd be the game theoretic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3635" data-t="3635">outcome</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3637" data-t="3637">that I think some of the top crypto minds in the White House would come to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3642" data-t="3642">natural.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3644">1:00:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3644" data-t="3644">Is Saylor's been going on about this this thing where,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3650" data-t="3650">you know, one of the most selfless things that you could do is, die with your own keys, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3656" data-t="3656">I I don't know why he doesn't extrapolate that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3660" data-t="3660">to the most selfless thing that you could do is blow up the enemy's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3663" data-t="3663">of the United States government's keys</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3667" data-t="3667">to make your Bitcoin more valuable,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3669">1:01:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3669" data-t="3669">make it less liquid. That's all you have to put. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3672" data-t="3672">with what Iran, Iran's most</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3675" data-t="3675">secure facility in Fortow,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3677" data-t="3677">where they had the uranium,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3679" data-t="3679">it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3681" data-t="3681">was easily penetrated by</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3683">1:01:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3683" data-t="3683">US bunker busters. We have to protect</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3686" data-t="3686">our, you know, our bit stamp or our stamp c,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3689" data-t="3689">titanium backup, cold car or, cold storage</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3693" data-t="3693">or c phrases.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3695" data-t="3695">We have to bury these deep under the mountains in places that cannot be destroyed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3699" data-t="3699">by our enemies. I mean, it's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3702">1:01:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3702" data-t="3702">wherever the nukes are pointing, we have to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3705" data-t="3705">we have to make those secure locations.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3708" data-t="3708">We need a lot of Faraday protection. It's it's all interesting</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3713">1:01:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3713" data-t="3713">stuff to game theory for sure.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3716" data-t="3716">I I feel like software is gonna turn into hardware pretty quickly.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3722">1:02:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3722" data-t="3722">Some would say they already started. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3725">1:02:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3725" data-t="3725">I don't think there was any coverage of whether the Mossad blew up,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3729" data-t="3729">the keys,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3730" data-t="3730">Hezbollah's keys, but in Lebanon, but I think there's probably a pretty good chance they hit that too.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3737" data-t="3737">Alrighty.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3738" data-t="3738">Last episode I I forgot what I did. So the last episode, I think I rambled for, like, forty minutes,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3745" data-t="3745">solo.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3746">1:02:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3746" data-t="3746">Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was it was good. It was good.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3751" data-t="3751">Made me excited to come back. Yeah. Oh, man.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3755">1:02:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3755" data-t="3755">Being out of rhythm with this weekly cadence is throwing me off for sure. I'm I'm already forgot what we talked or what I talked about. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3762" data-t="3762">okay. So I think it talked about, like, how people should get excited and enjoy the bull market.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3768" data-t="3768">That's exactly what we did at Lake Satoshi.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3772" data-t="3772">That's what I'm continuing to do. But Very bullish.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3776" data-t="3776">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3778" data-t="3778">So our first boost was, skate eight ten thousand sat. Says, finding out about and then listening to this on the drive home from Blake Satoshi was definitely a highlight of the weekend.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3789">1:03:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3789" data-t="3789">Comedic gold in such a great signal and perspective spoke to add</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3793" data-t="3793">the bugle and rock paper Bitcoin to the must listen to podcast queue.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3798" data-t="3798">Now I understand the math about listening forty hours per week. People are learning. It's,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3805">1:03:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3805" data-t="3805">word is getting out.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3806">1:03:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3806" data-t="3806">Yeah. Tell your friends about the bugle. Well, I don't know what he was talking about. Community Gold.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3811" data-t="3811">This is a hard news</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3813" data-t="3813">show, folks.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3815">1:03:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3815" data-t="3815">Maybe they're just commenting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3817" data-t="3817">on the hilarity of the clown world we're reporting on.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3822" data-t="3822">I do I think Yeah. Wanna say</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3825">1:03:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3825" data-t="3825">So I I think there's some</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3828" data-t="3828">people I wanna add to people's list of, 40 or at least share my forty hours per week. So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3836" data-t="3836">my good friend, Rayo, from Liberty Under Attack, he's been putting on some cool shows. He just had Shadrach on yesterday,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3844" data-t="3844">and I was listening to that. They were talking about mesh</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3847" data-t="3847">networks,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3848" data-t="3848">And,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3850">1:04:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3850" data-t="3850">mesh networks are interesting,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3852" data-t="3852">but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3853" data-t="3853">I'm a fan of those guys. And then,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3857" data-t="3857">along I don't think I've talked about this guy for a while, but I was listening to him a bunch was, David Bennett in the Bitcoin and podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3865" data-t="3865">I think he's got</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3869" data-t="3869">one of the best news shows of Bitcoin. If you just wanna, like, get a few updates a week of what's going on,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3875">1:04:35</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3875" data-t="3875">He</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3877" data-t="3877">he he kills it. He's got a great show. Nice.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3881" data-t="3881">Have you have you listened to David Bennett?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3884">1:04:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3884" data-t="3884">I haven't. I have to check that out.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3887" data-t="3887">Sounds great.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3889" data-t="3889">I don't know what order</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3892" data-t="3892">the videos are in on here. I'm looking at my phone. So the next one that I'm seeing is, 10,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3896" data-t="3896">sats from Fundamentals.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3899" data-t="3899">Fundamentals says, best solo Greaser rip since the hour long pre rip leading into the Mike Brock defrocking.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3906">1:05:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3906" data-t="3906">So, yeah, it was, fundamentals was a big fan of this one. It looks like all the boost are messed up. I ain't gonna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3914" data-t="3914">let me pull them up somewhere else because I don't even see fundamentals boost. The next 10,000 boost</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3920">1:05:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3920" data-t="3920">is from late stage HODL.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3922" data-t="3922">We already talked about late stage hanging out with,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3926" data-t="3926">with him at Lake Satoshi.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3928" data-t="3928">Says,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3929" data-t="3929">what the actual fuck?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3931" data-t="3931">How did I miss episode 69?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3933">1:05:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3933" data-t="3933">What a shame. Listening now. See you at Lake Satoshi.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3939">1:05:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3939" data-t="3939">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3940" data-t="3940">We didn't do really anything special with 69,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3944" data-t="3944">but it was a special episode</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3947" data-t="3947">for being 69.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3948" data-t="3948">You know, I was at a rock show last night and there was a guy running around on stage with, he looked like Connell Tarantula. He had like bald headed and beard.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3958" data-t="3958">He wasn't wearing</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3961">1:06:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3961" data-t="3961">a turban or It's not the proper term for it, but you know what I mean? The head The head</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3966" data-t="3966">wrap. But, yeah, that was an interesting outfit. I feel like it's a power play, power move. You know, when you're singing metal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3973" data-t="3973">rock songs and you got a 69 shirt on.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3977">1:06:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3977" data-t="3977">Hell yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3978" data-t="3978">People know you like to fuck.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3982">1:06:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3982" data-t="3982">Yeah. I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3983" data-t="3983">really enjoyed meeting late stage Huddl.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3986" data-t="3986">That was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3988" data-t="3988">that was good. I like to meet our our podcast listeners, so I like to meet our consistent boosters.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3993" data-t="3993">It's always a good time.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3995" data-t="3995">Hell yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3998">1:06:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3998" data-t="3998">Next boost from,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4000" data-t="4000">manna</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4001" data-t="4001">10,000 sat says, nice remaster.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4005" data-t="4005">So I remastered, but Marty says his time is different. Yeah. It was,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4010">1:06:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4010" data-t="4010">that was Adam Simeka.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4012" data-t="4012">He's a big fan.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4014" data-t="4014">Check out his Mana wallet.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4016" data-t="4016">It's pretty nifty. Good user experience.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4020">1:06:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4020" data-t="4020">Yeah. I like to I like to use it to,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4025" data-t="4025">There's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4026" data-t="4026">a few ways to use the lightning network.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4028" data-t="4028">One of the ways is you can actually learn how it works</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4032" data-t="4032">and do everything correctly. Another way is that you can use all these different wallets to arbitrage things and be lazy.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4040" data-t="4040">And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4041">1:07:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4041" data-t="4041">both can get you to the ultimate goal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4045" data-t="4045">And, Manage I found it useful as an arbitrage tool for managing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4050" data-t="4050">channel liquidity.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4053" data-t="4053">Because it's a lot of work. Anytime I have a question about something Bitcoin related, get my wife to learn how to do it and then explain it to me. Like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4062" data-t="4062">that's a lot of work. And there's more important things than managing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4067" data-t="4067">your node liquidity,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4069">1:07:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4069" data-t="4069">your channel liquidity.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4071">1:07:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4071" data-t="4071">Yep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4072" data-t="4072">You know, thank you for the support,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4075" data-t="4075">Nana wallet.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4078" data-t="4078">Next,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4079" data-t="4079">Avi Burra</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4080" data-t="4080">from, Clubchain Radio.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4083">1:08:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4083" data-t="4083">Appreciate the shout out. Have fun at Lake Satoshi.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4086" data-t="4086">It'd been nice if Avi made it to Lake Satoshi. You've been cool. You you woulda had a good time.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4093">1:08:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4093" data-t="4093">Yeah. That would have been great to have Avi and QW there. There was definitely</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4097" data-t="4097">a big,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4098" data-t="4098">Noster,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4100" data-t="4100">a lot of people talking about Noster.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4102" data-t="4102">I think,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4104" data-t="4104">I,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4107">1:08:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4107" data-t="4107">oh, Auggie.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4109" data-t="4109">Auggie gave us a boost. He did it. Was that the first time we received an in person boost?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4118">1:08:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4118" data-t="4118">I think so. This is the first one I remember.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4121">1:08:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4121" data-t="4121">He gave us big blocks of cheese.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4123" data-t="4123">That was pretty cool.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4125" data-t="4125">Yes. Yes. Exactly. The raw milk cheese. It's fucking awesome. But yeah, anyways, there were some people that were really excited about Noster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4133" data-t="4133">like Satoshi, and, Auggie was really excited to get Angela McCardell on Noster.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4139" data-t="4139">Hell yeah. Jason C, twelve</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4142" data-t="4142">twenty one Sat says, I thought I was the only one whose favorite part of Atlas Shrugged was the cigarettes.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4150">1:09:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4150" data-t="4150">Well, I thought I was the only one too. So you're not alone there, Jason. We're in the same team on that front.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4158" data-t="4158">You</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4159" data-t="4159">know, fundamentals had some, speaking of Jason, fundamentals had some,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4164" data-t="4164">interesting theories on on fish</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4167">1:09:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4167" data-t="4167">recently. Yep. Yep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4170" data-t="4170">Yes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4171" data-t="4171">You can hear about,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4173" data-t="4173">you can hear about those</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4175" data-t="4175">those theories,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4177" data-t="4177">back on the chained</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4178">1:09:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4178" data-t="4178">podcasts, the fish logo in orange.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4183" data-t="4183">If you like jam bands, that is the Bitcoin podcast you need to check out.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4188">1:09:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4188" data-t="4188">It seems like all roads lead to fish.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4191">1:09:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4191" data-t="4191">It does. To those guys, those guys who really like fish, it does seem</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4196" data-t="4196">like all roads lead to fish in fish songs. They can relate anything to it. It's pretty cool. It's very interesting.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4203" data-t="4203">Even if it's like astrology, even if you don't believe it, it's still interesting. There's patterns there that, are undeniable.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4209" data-t="4209">So it's definitely worth checking out.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4212" data-t="4212">The next next boost, 521</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4216" data-t="4216">sats from doom satoshi.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4218">1:10:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4218" data-t="4218">You have a terrific intro each episode.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4221" data-t="4221">Thank you for your time.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4223">1:10:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4223" data-t="4223">Thank you. I think it's important to have good interest to podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4227" data-t="4227">Sam Hyde had a really good intro to his podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4230" data-t="4230">The Govenable Misfos has good intros.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4233" data-t="4233">I really I really like</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4236" data-t="4236">the intros to Blockchain. They're they're usually really good.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4240" data-t="4240">They they do that sermon</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4242">1:10:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4242" data-t="4242">before their show, and I like that.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4244" data-t="4244">I think Dave Bennett could could</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4246" data-t="4246">oh, I listened to Guy Swan for the first time in a while recently. That was on my 40 HPW.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4254" data-t="4254">He had all these in person podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4256" data-t="4256">experiences at Lake Satoshi, but then,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4259" data-t="4259">traveling to and from get back on it on the 40 HPW game.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4266">1:11:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4266" data-t="4266">Mister Rabbit says 5 for 521</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4269" data-t="4269">says,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4270" data-t="4270">Bitcoin is the anti grumpy pill.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4274" data-t="4274">A lot of people haven't figured that out yet.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4279">1:11:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4279" data-t="4279">Yeah. Yeah. Some people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4280" data-t="4280">some people seem to believe that Bitcoin can fix everything,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4284" data-t="4284">but it seems the ones that fix their attitude.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4287" data-t="4287">So</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4289">1:11:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4289" data-t="4289">These guys that came in in 2017,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4292" data-t="4292">they look at themselves</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4293" data-t="4293">as if they're like elder statesmen.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4297" data-t="4297">That's what it is.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4299" data-t="4299">They think they are the elder statesmen.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4301" data-t="4301">They were like the ones that were</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4304">1:11:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4304" data-t="4304">shilling Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4305" data-t="4305">before the president</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4308" data-t="4308">was pumping</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4310" data-t="4310">it, before the mainstream got in. They they think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4314" data-t="4314">if you got in in 2017, you haven't really been you're not an elder statesman.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4320" data-t="4320">You're you're not like</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4322">1:12:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4322" data-t="4322">a you're not even an adolescent yet. Like, chill out, get off your high horse,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4328" data-t="4328">and do something.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4330">1:12:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4330" data-t="4330">Yeah. The</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4332" data-t="4332">these elder quote unquote, they they're jealous.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4336" data-t="4336">They're grumpy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4337" data-t="4337">about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4338" data-t="4338">people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4340" data-t="4340">kind of caring more about the opinions of the macro elders instead of them. They think the macro elders</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4348">1:12:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4348" data-t="4348">are Johnny come latleys</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4350" data-t="4350">or they just they're you know, they just have paper Bitcoin. They don't understand Bitcoin. So they're just a little salty. I think the macro elders make them grumpy. But that's how it's been in all the previous cycles. I really like the macro elders</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4364">1:12:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4364" data-t="4364">more than the meme</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4367" data-t="4367">ers. It's just like I don't know. I mean, all these guys are like, I wish missed the bear market</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4374" data-t="4374">Back when the memes dude, the the memes fucking sucked this last bear market. Anybody that says that is fucking retarded.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4380">1:13:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4380" data-t="4380">None of the memers none of the meme gangs have gotten a better</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4384" data-t="4384">a better meme that nothing stops this train by Lin Alden</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4388" data-t="4388">macro gang. So,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4390" data-t="4390">that's all that's the bar you have to beat. Nothing stops this train if you can't beat</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4394" data-t="4394">it. Stop being grumpy.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4396">1:13:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4396" data-t="4396">Fuck. Is Lyn Alden the best memer of this past cycle?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-4401">1:13:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-4401" data-t="4401">Hard to argue against it.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4404" data-t="4404">The hottest memeer for sure. She's so hot.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4409" data-t="4409">But, yeah,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4410" data-t="4410">more people need to figure out Bitcoin is and Bitcoin podcasts are the anti grumpy pill. So thank you, mister rabbit. Next, we got,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4419" data-t="4419">Turkey just hit us with 500 sats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-4422" data-t="4422">No message. Thank you, Turkey.</span></span></p> +