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The bull market is right now, it's a little bit of pause. There's a lot going on,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-63" data-t="63">and we got a lot of new listeners. And if you're if you're wondering what is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-68" data-t="68">the Bugle weekly podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-70" data-t="70">it is the podcast, the Bitcoin podcast for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-73" data-t="73">people who listen</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-74">1:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-74" data-t="74">to forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-77" data-t="77">per week.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-78" data-t="78">The game theory, the incentive analysis,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-83" data-t="83">the cultural</span> <span class="cue" id="t-84" data-t="84">analysis that we do here, it may</span> <span class="cue" id="t-86" data-t="86">the difficulty may seem high, but if you listen to forty hours per week,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-91">1:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-91" data-t="91">you'll be able to pick up pretty quickly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-95" data-t="95">So, yeah,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-96" data-t="96">a whole lot of stuff going on the past two weeks. Donald Trump's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-100" data-t="100">first, you know, the first Bitcoin president's first two weeks in office have been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-104" data-t="104">even bigger than I think almost anybody could have anticipated. What is what's going through your mind as a Bitcoin broadcaster, Richard?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-113" data-t="113">How how to handle how to report the news</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-116">1:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-116" data-t="116">in this market, in this environment? I think it's really difficult</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-120">1:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-120" data-t="120">for Bitcoin podcasters right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-124" data-t="124">The the thing about Donald Trump</span> <span class="cue" id="t-126" data-t="126">and what's happening right now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-128" data-t="128">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-130" data-t="130">he's making things incredibly unpredictable.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-132" data-t="132">And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-133">2:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-133" data-t="133">as Bitcoin podcasters,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-135" data-t="135">it's like we've had a crystal ball for years. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-139" data-t="139">Yes. We're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-140" data-t="140">predicting Bitcoin winning. We've been predicting the demise of fiat.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-144" data-t="144">We've been predicting all these things. But now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-148" data-t="148">that a lot of the things that we've predicted</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-150">2:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-150" data-t="150">have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-151" data-t="151">come true or are coming true.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-154" data-t="154">The game theory is playing out before our eyes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-158" data-t="158">Now we have to look to what happens afterwards, and I don't think we've had Right. Spent</span> <span class="cue" id="t-164" data-t="164">enough time pontificating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-167" data-t="167">on what we think that future</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-170">2:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-170" data-t="170">of going into a world where Bitcoin has already won. Right.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-175">2:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-175" data-t="175">We</span> <span class="cue" id="t-176" data-t="176">very accurately</span> <span class="cue" id="t-178" data-t="178">recognized and predicted</span> <span class="cue" id="t-180" data-t="180">the demise of the fiat system,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-183" data-t="183">the demise of the legacy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-185" data-t="185">financial</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-186">3:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-186" data-t="186">markets.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-188" data-t="188">But we didn't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-190" data-t="190">Bitcoin had already won. We didn't know what that meant. We don't we don't we don't know to what to expect.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-196" data-t="196">Nobody knows</span> <span class="cue" id="t-198" data-t="198">what Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-199" data-t="199">will fix and when it will fix it</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-202">3:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-202" data-t="202">any given day anymore. We're finding out through breaking tweets,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-207" data-t="207">the videos, viral videos, meme coins,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-210" data-t="210">what</span> <span class="cue" data-t="210">part of the world, what part of the market, what part of the economy, what part of the international order did Bitcoin fix today? And it comes so fast and Donald Trump is just pumping it, pumping it, pumping it. And the price doesn't look like it reflects this NGU that we expected, but life doesn't come at you linearly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-228" data-t="228">And you just have to look around you and see, oh my god. Bitcoin just fixed immigration.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-232" data-t="232">Bitcoin just fixed</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-234">3:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-234" data-t="234">USAID. Bitcoin just fixed the deep state. Bitcoin just fixed the layoffs of the CIA, and it's it's happening so fast. And did nobody expect that that it would take only</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-244">4:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-244" data-t="244">two weeks. Yeah. The world is changing before our eyes incredibly quickly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-249" data-t="249">And it's a result of all of us. It's a result of the Bitcoin podcasters. Like, that that is what allowed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-256" data-t="256">the world to change</span> <span class="cue" id="t-258" data-t="258">in this manner.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-260" data-t="260">So I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-262" data-t="262">if you're a Bitcoin podcaster,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-264">4:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-264" data-t="264">you should be patting yourself on the back. Absolutely. Absolutely. Then then people are listening</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-270">4:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-270" data-t="270">to at an annual</span> <span class="cue" id="t-271" data-t="271">forty hours of Bitcoin podcast per week</span> <span class="cue" id="t-275" data-t="275">and they're not doing that. The Bitcoiners, if anybody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-280" data-t="280">in the world</span> <span class="cue" id="t-281" data-t="281">understands the value of time, it's Bitcoiners and people who listen to Bitcoin podcasts. They would not be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-289" data-t="289">spending their scarce time listening to forty hours of Bitcoin podcasts per week if the signal wasn't so strong</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-297">4:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-297" data-t="297">and that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-299" data-t="299">is ever more true</span> <span class="cue" id="t-301" data-t="301">in this psyop era. Every time you look on the timeline,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-305" data-t="305">you know, another CIA, another Fed has been given the pink slit, sat home,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-311" data-t="311">been fired from the CIA, everything.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-314" data-t="314">It's just one win after another</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-317">5:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-317" data-t="317">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-318" data-t="318">we need to remember</span> <span class="cue" id="t-321" data-t="321">who was talking, who was reporting the news and he was being bullish</span> <span class="cue" id="t-326" data-t="326">but serious and respect responsible with the reporting of their news. I mean, who is just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-331" data-t="331">giving you, you know, anti Fed form, right? Yep.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-336">5:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-336" data-t="336">We went over a few of our predictions last week, and I think we should just,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-341" data-t="341">you know, as they as they come up, as we feel inspired, give predictions.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-346">5:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-346" data-t="346">One of the predictions I know that was that predictions already came true.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-350" data-t="350">Mhmm. Planetar</span> <span class="cue" id="t-352" data-t="352">excused</span> <span class="cue" id="t-354" data-t="354">and exposed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-355" data-t="355">Ross Ulbricht to being a shitcoiner,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-358" data-t="358">a couple of days ago</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-360">5:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-360" data-t="360">because,</span> <span class="cue" data-t="360">Ross Ulbricht liquidated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-362" data-t="362">some meme coins that were sent to him</span> <span class="cue" id="t-365" data-t="365">by some of the people in the community who just think he's hot and they want to support him. It was a very good prediction on your part. And, Trevor, what prediction did you want to bring up or discuss in further detail today?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-377">6:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-377" data-t="377">Well, one of the things I just want to say so the the Bitcoin price dipped today.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-384" data-t="384">It's down to $9,797,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-386" data-t="386">dollars USTT per coin. I think this is gonna be short term, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-391" data-t="391">my question</span> <span class="cue" id="t-393" data-t="393">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-394" data-t="394">what Bitcoin podcasters quit</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-396">6:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-396" data-t="396">to drive the price down? Right. That you know, what is the leading indicator</span> <span class="cue" id="t-400" data-t="400">that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-402" data-t="402">that is really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-404" data-t="404">becoming a a headwind</span> <span class="cue" id="t-406" data-t="406">towards the effort of NGU. I mean, Bitcoin Podcasters provide a KALEWind</span> <span class="cue" id="t-412" data-t="412">to,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-413">6:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-413" data-t="413">to the NGU</span> <span class="cue" id="t-415" data-t="415">and to smooth scaling, you know, or smooth sailing to the moon.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-420" data-t="420">But these defectors, these quitters,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-424" data-t="424">they they provide a that headwind that slows it down.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-427" data-t="427">Mhmm.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-429">7:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-429" data-t="429">Yeah. I I think the price will recover. And one of the reasons why I think the price will recover,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-435" data-t="435">around the time that we should be publishing this episode, Sly Goomba</span> <span class="cue" id="t-439" data-t="439">should be publishing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-441" data-t="441">his first episode.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-443" data-t="443">His hiatus is coming to an end.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-446" data-t="446">And some alpha here, he interviewed,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-449">7:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-449" data-t="449">Bitcoin CAZ. BTC CAZ. Mhmm. The, the Oklahoma Bitcoin miner with the mustache base. I'm looking forward to that. Yeah. It's if anybody remembers,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-461" data-t="461">Sly Cooper watched his original</span> <span class="cue" id="t-464" data-t="464">Bitcoin podcast. What? Why Bitcoin?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-467" data-t="467">In</span> <span class="cue" id="t-468" data-t="468">around the same time in the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-471" data-t="471">bull market cycle</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-473">7:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-473" data-t="473">at the last cycle and now he's coming back almost the exact same time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-477" data-t="477">the Bitcoin price I mean last time you did this the Bitcoin price went like 8x</span> <span class="cue" id="t-482" data-t="482">so I think that we are just in a, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-486" data-t="486">a very</span> <span class="cue" id="t-488" data-t="488">minor,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-489" data-t="489">you know, early bull market low</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-492">8:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-492" data-t="492">and one of the leading indicators is lagged in this Bitcoin podcast coming back.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-496">8:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-496" data-t="496">Mhmm.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-498" data-t="498">I mean, fundamentals single handedly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-501" data-t="501">you know, both on Goverdable Misfits and fundamentals are starting new Bitcoin podcasts,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-508" data-t="508">which</span> <span class="cue" id="t-509" data-t="509">is also very bullish for price.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-511" data-t="511">I was listening to Fundamentals Math podcast. I don't know if you gotten a chance to listen to that one yet, but I think they're already four episodes deep. Oh, yeah. Mentals is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-522">8:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-522" data-t="522">one of those, you know, you hear about it in MMA, mixed martial arts, Brazilian jujitsu, somebody like BJ Penn</span> <span class="cue" id="t-530" data-t="530">or some other prodigy will step out on the mat as a white belt and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-537" data-t="537">accomplish</span> <span class="cue" id="t-539" data-t="539">the training and understanding of the martial art of the process so quickly that they will become a black belt in four, five years, which is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-549" data-t="549">at least half of what it takes the average person.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-553" data-t="553">And fundamentals is one of those people who he understood</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-557">9:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-557" data-t="557">for a year, he understood Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-559" data-t="559">and the game theory behind it and the incentive so well and he still listens to forty hours per week</span> <span class="cue" id="t-566" data-t="566">before this upper echelon of like black belt cryptographer,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-571" data-t="571">cypherpunks.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-573" data-t="573">They can add another layer and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-576" data-t="576">improve who they are speaking by doing forty hours</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-579">9:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-579" data-t="579">of math homework</span> <span class="cue" id="t-580" data-t="580">per week just because you're not in high school anymore and you're not in in your formal education doesn't mean that you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-587" data-t="587">have to stop learning and improving by doing forty hours of math homework per week but the fundamentals if you are ready for that kind of elite,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-596" data-t="596">you know, plan status Bitcoin podcaster status and you're ready for forty hours of Bitcoin podcast plus forty hours of math homework,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-603" data-t="603">the mostly retired guys mostly boomers and stuff like that but if you're ready for that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-609" data-t="609">you should definitely check out fundamentals and they do like a a live it's like Twitter spaces, but it's on Noister</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-616">10:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-616" data-t="616">and if you're having trouble with your math homework or you want to ask one of Vandals to if you wanna show them your work, like, you can do that in those sessions. Very cool.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-626">10:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-626" data-t="626">Very cool.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-628" data-t="628">Yeah. Fundamentals is kinda like the BJ Penn of podcasting Bitcoin podcasting.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-632">10:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-632" data-t="632">Right? Exactly. It's a very good way to put it. Yes.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-636">10:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-636" data-t="636">Yeah. They they refer to BJ Pan as the prodigy because he was able to get a black belt in jiu jitsu. Like, I I think the average person, it takes, like, a decade to get a black belt belt in jiu jitsu. Right. At least at the minimal.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-650" data-t="650">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-651" data-t="651">Yeah. BJ Penn</span> <span class="cue" id="t-654" data-t="654">was an absolute freak.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-655" data-t="655">Went from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-657" data-t="657">just a dude who</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-659">10:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-659" data-t="659">fought</span> <span class="cue" id="t-660" data-t="660">other people on the island to having a black belt</span> <span class="cue" id="t-664" data-t="664">in a year, and then he proceeded to very quickly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-667" data-t="667">get a UFC title.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-670">11:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-670" data-t="670">Yeah. There are there are people who there are people who study and practice</span> <span class="cue" id="t-676" data-t="676">Brazilian jiu jitsu for forty hours per week and they take ten years to get a black belt</span> <span class="cue" id="t-683" data-t="683">or something like fundamentals,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-685" data-t="685">you know, if he was in jiu jitsu, he it's his efficient</span> <span class="cue" id="t-690" data-t="690">use and his value of those and the effort he puts into those forty hours per week of listening to Bitcoin podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-697" data-t="697">that lets him transcend this, you know, much faster than the average plan.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-703">11:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-703" data-t="703">Fundamentals wasn't even around. Fundamentals was still,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-708" data-t="708">a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-709" data-t="709">crypto for Harris, not even the crypto for Harris, a white Deets for Harris voter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-714" data-t="714">When when Sly Goomba originally started his Bitcoin podcast at the last cycle,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-718" data-t="718">Fundamentals didn't come in until after Celsius</span> <span class="cue" id="t-721" data-t="721">or right around Celsius. So he has progressed. His time preference is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-726">12:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-726" data-t="726">way off the charts low for somebody who's only been in this many years.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-732">12:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-732" data-t="732">Totally.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-733" data-t="733">Yeah. I mean, one thing that I learned about fundamentals recently</span> <span class="cue" id="t-737" data-t="737">is that his father was an accountant,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-741" data-t="741">and I think that's important.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-743" data-t="743">I think that's important, you know, because, like, you look at a guy like BJ Penn.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-748" data-t="748">He was predisposed to be a fighter. He had a lot of brothers,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-752">12:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-752" data-t="752">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-753" data-t="753">he just grew up fighting. You know? That's that's just how it was, the environment he was in.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-759" data-t="759">Like, there's other examples of individuals,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-761" data-t="761">you know, who have similar stories who are just kinda</span> <span class="cue" id="t-766" data-t="766">they have a lot</span> <span class="cue" id="t-768" data-t="768">more of the groundwork already previously done. Right? Like, you look at, like, somebody like Mike Tyson. He's another good example</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-775">12:55</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-775" data-t="775">of somebody that's just, like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-777" data-t="777">a freaking nature. So when you're looking at fundamentals, his dad was an accountant. So his dad's job</span> <span class="cue" id="t-785" data-t="785">was to help people afford their taxes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-788" data-t="788">Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-789" data-t="789">So he grew up with his Jewish father.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-794" data-t="794">I I I don't think he want a non Jewish accountant. You know what I mean? I think that's, like, kinda what I'm No. No way. Even even Kanye West was mid</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-803">13:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-803" data-t="803">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-804" data-t="804">Totally.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-805" data-t="805">So you need to have a Jewish accountant. So, like, his his father was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-810" data-t="810">like, probably in the top one percentile</span> <span class="cue" id="t-813" data-t="813">of accountants.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-815" data-t="815">He was, genetically predisposed</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-817">13:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-817" data-t="817">to helping people afford their taxes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-820" data-t="820">You know? And if that's that's the house, if that's the environment that you grow up in,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-825" data-t="825">you're you're gonna understand Bitcoin a lot easier</span> <span class="cue" id="t-829" data-t="829">than most people. It's gonna take you a lot less time.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-833">13:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-833" data-t="833">Right. Right. Being</span> <span class="cue" id="t-836" data-t="836">being somebody who understands</span> <span class="cue" id="t-839" data-t="839">value and hard money</span> <span class="cue" id="t-842" data-t="842">and time preference,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-844" data-t="844">that is like a</span> <span class="cue" id="t-846" data-t="846">like a blood memory. Mhmm. It is passed down through generations. You can trust your progeny</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-853">14:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-853" data-t="853">because they inherited</span> <span class="cue" id="t-855" data-t="855">their time preference</span> <span class="cue" id="t-857" data-t="857">from you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-858" data-t="858">and this is this is why this is why Spetzky</span> <span class="cue" id="t-864" data-t="864">is a proponent of of monarchy,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-868" data-t="868">an orange tailed monarchy, because</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-871">14:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-871" data-t="871">the the time preference of the monarch</span> <span class="cue" id="t-874" data-t="874">is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-876" data-t="876">is tempered and passed down through generations.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-879" data-t="879">It is, you know, if you become king and your time preference is so low that, like, that is the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-886" data-t="886">sign from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-888" data-t="888">the creator</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-889">14:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-889" data-t="889">that you are bestowed that from. Like, that is I don't agree with that necessarily. I'm a much more inclusive,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-897" data-t="897">person in Bitcoin podcast. I don't I think that, you know, democracy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-903" data-t="903">is just as possible on a Bitcoin standard as a monarchy. Bitcoin's for everyone. Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-909" data-t="909">is for everybody. And,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-911" data-t="911">you know, speaking of that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-914" data-t="914">right now, Bitcoin, we talked about this Bitcoin has done this below a 100,000.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-919">15:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-919" data-t="919">Canada</span> <span class="cue" id="t-920" data-t="920">is now in the midst of this trade war, this tariff war, Donald Trump has put tariffs on on Canada.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-928" data-t="928">He is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-930" data-t="930">seeking to onboard more taxpayers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-933" data-t="933">from Canada</span> <span class="cue" id="t-934" data-t="934">and Mexico. He would like to make Canada the 50 first state. He would like to help Canadians</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-940">15:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-940" data-t="940">afford their taxes. Right now, it's very difficult</span> <span class="cue" id="t-942" data-t="942">for Ks to afford their taxes, and part of that reason is their currency.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-947" data-t="947">And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-949" data-t="949">right now I think Justin Trudeau has the support of the country, but if Bitcoin drops below a 100 ks in Canada,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-958" data-t="958">I think that people are going to start.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-962" data-t="962">They're gonna stop supporting</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-963">16:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-963" data-t="963">him. I think that is a real</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-966">16:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-966" data-t="966">possibility how this plays out. Yeah. I mean, you would hope that the Canadian people would have some loyalty</span> <span class="cue" id="t-972" data-t="972">to Trudeau because he was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-974" data-t="974">the one that got them to a 100 k before The US, which is a massive accomplishment. You can't you can't forget that. You cannot forget</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-983">16:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-983" data-t="983">that Justin Trudeau was the first world leader</span> <span class="cue" id="t-987" data-t="987">to get, neo, Bitcoin to a $100,000.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-990">16:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-990" data-t="990">Yeah. Right now, the Bitcoin price in,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-993" data-t="993">Canadian dollars is, 143,000.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-996" data-t="996">So it'd be a pretty dramatic dump</span> <span class="cue" id="t-999" data-t="999">for it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1002" data-t="1002">to to go all the way back down to</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1006">16:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1006" data-t="1006">below a 100,000. So now What's, what was the what was the Canadian Bitcoin price, you know, a week ago</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1013" data-t="1013">or before the inauguration?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1017">16:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1017" data-t="1017">Oh,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1018" data-t="1018">what day was the inauguration? That was on the twentieth? Twentieth.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1022" data-t="1022">I believe? Okay.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1024" data-t="1024">So on the thirteenth,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1026" data-t="1026">it hit a low of, like, 136,000.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1031">17:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1031" data-t="1031">And then So they yeah. They're they're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1033" data-t="1033">very low risk of of losing a 100 k.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1037" data-t="1037">Something, you know, maybe Trudeau has more</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1040" data-t="1040">political</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1041" data-t="1041">capital left</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1042" data-t="1042">than we give him credit for. He might, you know, perhaps he is a fighter.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1047">17:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1047" data-t="1047">Yeah. I mean, we're watching this serious divergence</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1050" data-t="1050">in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1051" data-t="1051">you know, like, there's this new elite class that is forming in Canada, which is the Canadian Bitcoin podcast listener. They are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1060" data-t="1060">experiencing a type of wealth</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1062" data-t="1062">at a time when the older peers in the country</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1066" data-t="1066">are incredibly</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1067">17:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1067" data-t="1067">impoverished. They're not having fun staying poor.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1071" data-t="1071">They didn't they didn't listen to Bitcoiners' advice over the last few years to really plan on how to have fun staying poor. So I mean And they're just</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1080">17:60</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1080" data-t="1080">How how do you feel</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1082" data-t="1082">how do you feel sorry for the Bitcoiners who were driving around</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1085" data-t="1085">driving</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1086" data-t="1086">giant massive semi trucks around their house in circles, pawning their horns at them, telling them that Bitcoin was about to have already won?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1094" data-t="1094">And if they didn't listen then, what what is going to get their attention now?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1099">18:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1099" data-t="1099">I don't know. I mean, I I think Canada</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1102" data-t="1102">just has to go through</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1104" data-t="1104">I think the whole world kinda has to go through this Darwinian survival of the fittest, where the individuals that listen to the most Bitcoin podcasts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1113" data-t="1113">are gonna be the dominant ones, and the people that don't</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1117" data-t="1117">are gonna go get vaccinated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1120" data-t="1120">by Bill Gates and and get sterilized and and not have homeschool children who are orange pilled.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1128">18:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1128" data-t="1128">I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1129" data-t="1129">if you're in Canada, you should not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1132" data-t="1132">look</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1133" data-t="1133">to what</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1134" data-t="1134">your government says.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1136" data-t="1136">Look</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1137">18:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1137" data-t="1137">at their actions. Look at what they do. For example,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1141" data-t="1141">one of our</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1143" data-t="1143">best followers, best boosters,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1146" data-t="1146">Boomer.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1147" data-t="1147">Boomer is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1148" data-t="1148">an economist</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1150">19:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1150" data-t="1150">for the the federal government in Canada.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1153" data-t="1153">He's very open about this and he's buying Bitcoin. So if you're in Canada, you need to look at like the Feds who have access to uncensored</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1160" data-t="1160">economic data</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1161" data-t="1161">or buying Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1163" data-t="1163">hand over fist.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1165" data-t="1165">That should be assigned to you. You should be doing the same thing. Yeah. I mean The same the same with the Harper, you know, our president</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1171">19:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1171" data-t="1171">and his family, they're buying</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1173" data-t="1173">the our new, our new ci, our new FBI director, they're buying Bitcoin. Donald Trump's buying wrapped Bitcoin. Watch what she is buying,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1182">19:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1182" data-t="1182">not what, you know, the headlines in the mainstream media tell you. Yep. So to kinda recap what's happening, so there there's a trade war that is escalated right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1193" data-t="1193">Donald Trump placed tariffs on China,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1196" data-t="1196">on Canada, and on Mexico.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1200" data-t="1200">The the Canadian government appears to be trying to get their citizens</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1204" data-t="1204">to use</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1206" data-t="1206">Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1207">20:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1207" data-t="1207">And one of the strategies that they're using is they're doing retaliatory</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1212" data-t="1212">tariffs on The US,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1215" data-t="1215">essentially making products more expensive</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1218" data-t="1218">so that the only way that Canadians can afford their 60%</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1221" data-t="1221">taxes as well</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1224" data-t="1224">as goods getting more expensive is to buy Bitcoin.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1227">20:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1227" data-t="1227">Now Mexico, on the other hand,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1231" data-t="1231">is not adopting Bitcoin. Their government is also doing retaliatory</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1235" data-t="1235">tariffs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1236" data-t="1236">But instead, their strategy is to try and get their citizens to use Tether because Mexico is in the global south. Right? Like, this is the the bigger inference. Yeah. And it's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1248">20:48</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1248" data-t="1248">honestly, I think I don't I think once Donald Trump</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1253" data-t="1253">figures out what's going on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1255" data-t="1255">and realizes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1257" data-t="1257">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1258" data-t="1258">Canada is the Canadians are buying Bitcoin to get around these tariffs that he's emplaced.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1264" data-t="1264">That is when he will try to incentivize</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1267">21:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1267" data-t="1267">them it'll be a compromise.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1270" data-t="1270">We'll get rid of the Canadian dollar.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1273" data-t="1273">People will stop buying</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1275" data-t="1275">Bitcoin in Canada because this is for Americans.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1278" data-t="1278">Sats are for Americans.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1280" data-t="1280">Canada can use</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1282">21:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1282" data-t="1282">Tether on Tron</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1284" data-t="1284">and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1285" data-t="1285">it will be really I think it'll be celebrated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1289" data-t="1289">and it will be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1291" data-t="1291">hailed as a great</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1293" data-t="1293">example of somebody from the Global North</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1296">21:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1296" data-t="1296">who is who admits that it is time</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1299" data-t="1299">for them to admit that, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1300" data-t="1300">that they have to use tether on Tron. Yeah. I mean, that's a potential.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1304">21:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1304" data-t="1304">I mean, I I think what</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1306" data-t="1306">this Taproot</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1308" data-t="1308">assets</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1310" data-t="1310">announcement that you can now use Tether on Lightning,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1313" data-t="1313">I think that That's big.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1315" data-t="1315">Well, I think the timing was strategic.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1318">21:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1318" data-t="1318">It was intentionally</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1319" data-t="1319">done.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1320" data-t="1320">At the time, it was right as these,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1324" data-t="1324">trade wars were really coming to an head.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1327" data-t="1327">In order</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1328" data-t="1328">to make sure that these</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1331">22:11</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1331" data-t="1331">Canadians start using it. Yeah. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1334">22:14</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1334" data-t="1334">When you put it that way, it makes a lot of sense. They will probably be the first sovereign nation onboarded</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1340" data-t="1340">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1342" data-t="1342">tether in the Mercutio on Lightning.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1345" data-t="1345">Will</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1346" data-t="1346">we open the same,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1349" data-t="1349">you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1350">22:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1350" data-t="1350">invitation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1352" data-t="1352">for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1353" data-t="1353">people in Mexico and people in Latin America and people in South America to use Tether on lightning, or will we kinda keep them off on Tron? Well, the the battle that we're seeing play out in Canada so</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1367">22:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1367" data-t="1367">Francis at Bull Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1369" data-t="1369">he's pretty upset</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1371" data-t="1371">because he's been trying to get people to use Tether on liquid.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1375" data-t="1375">And now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1377" data-t="1377">that there's support on Lightning,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1380" data-t="1380">peep they're let they're much less likely to use liquid. Well, then People have watched, you</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1386">23:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1386" data-t="1386">know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1387" data-t="1387">collectively</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1388" data-t="1388">thousands of hours</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1389" data-t="1389">with lagging tutorials</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1391" data-t="1391">on YouTube</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1393" data-t="1393">with BTC sessions and they have not watched there's no BTC, I mean, BTC sessions doesn't have popular</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1400">23:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1400" data-t="1400">liquid</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1401" data-t="1401">tutorials.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1402" data-t="1402">And I think that it's just right now, it's a market education issue for Samsung. Well, I think it's a big week for our for Samsung</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1411">23:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1411" data-t="1411">and for Aqua Wallet in general. We're gonna see more use of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1415" data-t="1415">Tether on on Liquid</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1417">23:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1417" data-t="1417">via Aqua Wallet. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. And this is gonna be a huge integration.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1423" data-t="1423">It's, I mean, who's not gonna wanna use it now? I mean, who's not gonna wanna use that? Yeah. I mean, my my question is, is</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1431">23:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1431" data-t="1431">is Aquawala gonna start supporting Tether on Lightning, or are they gonna try and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1437" data-t="1437">continue to propagate Lightning on Liquid primarily? Like, which is gonna be the I think, yeah. I think the users</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1444">24:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1444" data-t="1444">will</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1445" data-t="1445">make</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1446" data-t="1446">that decision for them. I think demand will make that decision for them and I think that people are going to start</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1455" data-t="1455">kind of following this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1457" data-t="1457">philosophy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1458" data-t="1458">of</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1459">24:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1459" data-t="1459">my lightning tether, my, you know, LNUSDT</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1462" data-t="1462">is for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1464" data-t="1464">my stable balance so I can pay my taxes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1467" data-t="1467">Everything after I can afford my taxes is gonna go,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1471" data-t="1471">you know, on chain, cold storage, ETF,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1474" data-t="1474">whatever your pick your poison.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1476">24:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1476" data-t="1476">But for paying your taxes, it's gonna be very popular. You're gonna have lightning channels</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1481" data-t="1481">that get so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1484" data-t="1484">out of balance. The only way that you're just gonna have to plug straight into the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1487" data-t="1487">IRS, and you'll just be able to pay your you'll be able to stream Sats as you're earning them,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1492" data-t="1492">in Tether over lighting to the IRS. You won't have to file on April 15. You'll just be streaming them Sats all year long. Mhmm.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1501">25:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1501" data-t="1501">Well, I mean, that would be a pretty cool use of the the IRS as they they become</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1507" data-t="1507">essentially the de facto</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1510" data-t="1510">LSP or Lightning Service Provider.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1513">25:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1513" data-t="1513">Right. That that's just, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1515" data-t="1515">kind of what</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1517" data-t="1517">we've been working towards this whole time. Well And so it's interesting, you know, it'll be interesting if they use Amboss, if they go with Voltage, like, what's going to be their infrastructure? LightSpark?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1526">25:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1526" data-t="1526">Zebedee</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1528">25:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1528" data-t="1528">Zebedee,</span> <span class="cue" data-t="1528">River.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1530" data-t="1530">You know, River, they've got great relationships with Peter Thiel. Like, this would be a per a match made in heaven. Totally. So I would argue probably the biggest loser</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1539">25:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1539" data-t="1539">this week</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1540" data-t="1540">is Jerome Powell and the Federal Reserve.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1544" data-t="1544">Because the fact that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1546" data-t="1546">you can now have Tether</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1548" data-t="1548">on Lightning</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1550" data-t="1550">means that we're entering into the age where you can truly be your own central bank. You can issue your own stable coins on Lightning,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1558">25:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1558" data-t="1558">and therefore you don't really need the Federal Reserve anymore.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1562">26:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1562" data-t="1562">Right. Look what look what Bitcoiners did to the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1567" data-t="1567">the rest of the commercial banking sector.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1570" data-t="1570">It over the past few years has been in crisis. I mean, these banks have been failing left and right. They've needed so all sorts of rescuing from the central banks just to stay,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1579" data-t="1579">you know, liquid or just to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1582" data-t="1582">to wind down and have be taken over by the FDIC.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1585" data-t="1585">And Bitcoiners did that. And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1588">26:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1588" data-t="1588">now with with Tether being able to be issued on the Lightning Network, they're just decentralizing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1594" data-t="1594">dematerializing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1596" data-t="1596">central banks and the central bankers Jerome Powell is looking with and he sees it. He can't. He may not admit it. He may not show us. He's got a good poker face. He's a lawyer. That's what he does.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1607" data-t="1607">But he sees</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1609" data-t="1609">this train coming</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1610" data-t="1610">and totally disrupting</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1612">26:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1612" data-t="1612">central bankers because now any plaid anywhere in the world can pernicious permissionlessly</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1619" data-t="1619">be their own central bank and fund their own Bitcoin podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1622" data-t="1622">by boosting it on fountain. This is huge. This is the this is the poll shift. This is the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1628" data-t="1628">vibe</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1630" data-t="1630">shift. It is it knows has no ceiling. The center of the if the federal reserve is on its heels right now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1638" data-t="1638">and you're bearish.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1639">27:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1639" data-t="1639">I just</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1641" data-t="1641">I question</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1642" data-t="1642">you've got some you've got some incentives</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1645" data-t="1645">that are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1646" data-t="1646">in this line somewhere in their head and you got to get them fixed. It's pretty obvious.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1650" data-t="1650">Nothing stops this train. Yeah. I mean, do people think that that was a, you know, a meme by Lynn Alden?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1656">27:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1656" data-t="1656">It's not. It was a warning. It was a it was</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1659" data-t="1659">a warning shot over the bow and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1661" data-t="1661">Jerome Powell did not. I mean, there's no way that Jerome</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1665" data-t="1665">Powell is not aware</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1667" data-t="1667">of Lyn Alden. She's one of the top macro</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1671" data-t="1671">podcast guests in the world. Every everybody wants her. Everybody's trying to book her.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1676">27:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1676" data-t="1676">He's listened</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1678" data-t="1678">to her podcast before. He has no</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1681" data-t="1681">excuse for his late, you know, he</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1685" data-t="1685">he just didn't set them up to react. Well, on the topic of podcast,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1688">28:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1688" data-t="1688">so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1690" data-t="1690">I think something that could be potentially really bullish for the price, sounds like Donald Trump,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1697" data-t="1697">So he has offered a bunch of federal workers</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1702" data-t="1702">paid time off for eight months.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1704" data-t="1704">It's a pretty good deal for them.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1707">28:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1707" data-t="1707">It's a buyout. Yeah. It's a</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1710">28:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1710" data-t="1710">yeah. So the question I have is how do we convert all these feds</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1715" data-t="1715">that are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1716" data-t="1716">getting these severances</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1718" data-t="1718">severance packages? How do we convert them</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1722" data-t="1722">into Bitcoin podcasters? How do we Oh, yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1725">28:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1725" data-t="1725">That's a good I mean, this is a it's it's bigger than</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1730" data-t="1730">the buyout. It's bigger than the the PTO.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1733" data-t="1733">It is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1736" data-t="1736">they're buying out these contracts of all these federal employees and they're also firing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1740" data-t="1740">feds</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1741" data-t="1741">and a lot of those feds are, you know, just think about when, you know, a huge Bitcoin company, they go bankrupt or, you know, they</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1750">29:10</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1750" data-t="1750">their IPO goes down and they have to pull back.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1753" data-t="1753">Think of the presence, the vacuum that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1757" data-t="1757">has to be filled</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1758" data-t="1758">on Twitter spaces, on morning Twitter spaces.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1762" data-t="1762">It goes away and so a lot of these feds</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1765" data-t="1765">because that budget, those budget cuts hit those those influencers first.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1769">29:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1769" data-t="1769">And so there's just going to be way fewer feds on spaces on Twitter,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1775" data-t="1775">especially Bitcoin spaces, way fewer hot feds, way fewer girlfriends, way fewer, you know, girls in the Telegram chats. You know some of them, you know the popular ones, we talked to Mars about this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1785" data-t="1785">It's gonna be, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1787" data-t="1787">they're gonna be out of a job. They're gonna have to stop looking at</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1791" data-t="1791">Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1792" data-t="1792">influencer as a you know, it's they're gonna have to go solo. They're gonna have to start their own podcast. They're gonna have to get their own sponsors.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1798">29:58</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1798" data-t="1798">It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1800" data-t="1800">one is the fastest way for them to win the podcast. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1804">30:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1804" data-t="1804">I there there were</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1806" data-t="1806">government programs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1808" data-t="1808">attempting to teach</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1810" data-t="1810">coal miners that lost their jobs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1813" data-t="1813">how to podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1815" data-t="1815">or sorry, how to code, and I think that's Did Steve has Steve Barger learned the podcast?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1820">30:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1820" data-t="1820">Yeah.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1821" data-t="1821">Wait.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1822" data-t="1822">Well, that should be the meme. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1824" data-t="1824">Learn to podcast instead of learn to code.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1828">30:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1828" data-t="1828">Alright. AI is taking</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1830" data-t="1830">the coding jobs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1832" data-t="1832">Yeah. AI is taking the coding jobs. Coding is not gonna save you. You're gonna have to learn</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1836" data-t="1836">to be a Bitcoin podcaster.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1838" data-t="1838">Yeah. If you want to afford your taxes, that is. Not not everybody's going to be able to afford their taxes, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1844" data-t="1844">we're kind of in this new</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1846">30:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1846" data-t="1846">regime.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1848" data-t="1848">You know, people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1849" data-t="1849">for many years have been</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1851" data-t="1851">using it almost as a slur</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1853" data-t="1853">that being a taxpayer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1856" data-t="1856">is because you're privileged. You can pay if you're afforded to taxes, you're you have privilege. You're a taxpayer</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1862">31:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1862" data-t="1862">you have taxpayer privilege</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1865" data-t="1865">And it's time that well, as a collector, we're kinda coming to agreement and saying, yeah,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1870" data-t="1870">it is a privilege to be able to afford your taxes. And it's time we remember that. It's time we start</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1877" data-t="1877">prioritizing</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1878" data-t="1878">society's needs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1880" data-t="1880">for taxpayers.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1881">31:21</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1881" data-t="1881">Yep.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1882" data-t="1882">Well, this has been a meme for a while that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1885" data-t="1885">individuals on the political left have been propagated. And this idea of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1891" data-t="1891">taxing those who can afford to pay their taxes. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1895" data-t="1895">Tax the taxpayers.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1897">31:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1897" data-t="1897">Put this burden. Not only that, just not even acknowledging that, yes, there's these</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1903" data-t="1903">fewer percentage of the population who are paying them, But where are we getting them for that in return?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1909" data-t="1909">There has to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1910" data-t="1910">an incentive, a privilege to being able to afford the taxes or else people will not</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1917" data-t="1917">work to become</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1920">32:00</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1920" data-t="1920">taxpayers. Well, this is a big part of what Podkoff is trying to do, which is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1926" data-t="1926">you know, I I think the Trump administration with this strategic stockpile</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1931" data-t="1931">has given Bitcoiners a reason to wanna pay their taxes, which is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1935" data-t="1935">that their taxes go into pumping the price of Bitcoin and meme coins and shake coins.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1942" data-t="1942">Right? That's something that that is exciting for them. But, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1946" data-t="1946">Podkoff Podkoff has a different philosophy on this, which is just the act of compliance</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1952">32:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1952" data-t="1952">in and of itself</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1954" data-t="1954">is defiant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1956" data-t="1956">and creates NGU.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1957">32:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1957" data-t="1957">Right. They or</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1959" data-t="1959">any native</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1960" data-t="1960">if we have NGU and and Bitcoiners can afford their taxes, well, then the government</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1965" data-t="1965">becomes reliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1967" data-t="1967">on Bitcoiners who are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1969" data-t="1969">compliant in paying their taxes.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1971">32:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1971" data-t="1971">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1972" data-t="1972">the power dynamic shifts. They need</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1975" data-t="1975">us. We all need them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1977" data-t="1977">So as long as</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1979" data-t="1979">we continue to pump the price,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1983" data-t="1983">they have to do that if they want to have</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1986">33:06</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1986" data-t="1986">to be able to afford the government.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-1988">33:08</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-1988" data-t="1988">Mhmm.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1990" data-t="1990">Yeah. I think Bitcoiners should be looking at getting creative here. So we we have an administration that's a lot friendlier</span> <span class="cue" id="t-1997" data-t="1997">towards us, and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2000" data-t="2000">we should be looking for how to milk it. Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2004" data-t="2004">We should be looking at</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2006" data-t="2006">potentially</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2007">33:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2007" data-t="2007">redirecting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2008" data-t="2008">federal subsidies from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2010" data-t="2010">condoms in Gaza</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2012" data-t="2012">to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2013" data-t="2013">sponsoring the bar tab at meetups.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2017">33:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2017" data-t="2017">Oh, yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I mean, if you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2020" data-t="2020">it it would almost be like we take all the funding</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2023" data-t="2023">away from NPR</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2026" data-t="2026">and we redirect it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2028" data-t="2028">to Big O and Podcasters,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2030" data-t="2030">to Foundboost,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2031">33:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2031" data-t="2031">and we can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2033" data-t="2033">kind of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2034" data-t="2034">have this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2036" data-t="2036">public</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2038" data-t="2038">federal government compliant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2040" data-t="2040">conversation about</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2041">34:01</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2041" data-t="2041">how we can use Bitcoin to save for our future and our ability to afford taxes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2046" data-t="2046">And we can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2047" data-t="2047">broadcast that out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2049" data-t="2049">for the whole for the whole country to listen to.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2052" data-t="2052">But yeah, these guys are gonna be Yeah, we can one spittle the people who can't, you know, who are looking for a credentialed source.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2059" data-t="2059">They they've capitulated. They have admitted they made a mistake and they didn't buy Bitcoin. They they want compliant</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2066">34:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2066" data-t="2066">legal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2068" data-t="2068">sources to to be orange billed by and Dennis Porter and this new, you know, these new government boost media podcast that they're boosting, they can be that avenue. One of the topics that I thought was pretty interesting that I wanted to talk about. So</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2082">34:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2082" data-t="2082">credentialed journalist, Pete or, yeah, Pete Rizzo,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2086" data-t="2086">he reported on this interesting story. So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2089" data-t="2089">the,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2091" data-t="2091">I think they're called the POD two fifty six Foundation,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2094" data-t="2094">the guys</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2095" data-t="2095">at Bitcoin Corp. So I think Matt Patel might be involved with that. They hit a Bitcoin block</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2102">35:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2102" data-t="2102">solo mining with a future BitMiner. I mean, that's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2105">35:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2105" data-t="2105">that's huge news. That was awesome. I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2108" data-t="2108">you gotta look at you gotta think about Marathon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2112" data-t="2112">with all that money they're spent, and they're getting beat by solo miners. Yeah. I mean, that that might be</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2120">35:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2120" data-t="2120">them.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2121" data-t="2121">Yeah. I think the question for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2124" data-t="2124">big miners</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2125" data-t="2125">is why are they deploying</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2127" data-t="2127">a bunch of hash rate, which is expensive to maintain,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2131" data-t="2131">when they could be</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2132">35:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2132" data-t="2132">deploying a bunch of bid access</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2134" data-t="2134">at a very low cost? Like, they're not gonna have very high</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2138" data-t="2138">power cost, but if they hit a block with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2141" data-t="2141">with a bit ax,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2143" data-t="2143">they're like,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2144" data-t="2144">power expenditure</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2145">35:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2145" data-t="2145">versus</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2146" data-t="2146">Bitcoin income</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2148" data-t="2148">is so high.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2149" data-t="2149">So the question I have for them is,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2152" data-t="2152">is it time for them to change their model? Should they all be solo mining?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2156">35:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2156" data-t="2156">That's a really good question and that's going to be something that's probably going to be a topic</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2162" data-t="2162">over the next couple of years because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2165" data-t="2165">right now we look at the hash rate</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2167" data-t="2167">and all we know from this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2169" data-t="2169">is that people, miners are extremely bullish even at these very thin razor margins.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2176" data-t="2176">Some of them are operating</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2179">36:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2179" data-t="2179">unprofitably.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2180" data-t="2180">If their goal is now and there's this many people who are bullish about it, imagine what it's going to be when the price is a million dollars per coin later this year, when it's potentially</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2191" data-t="2191">US, you know, 2,000,000,000,000 USDT</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2193" data-t="2193">per SAT. Think about how bullish miners are going to be then but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2199" data-t="2199">if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2200" data-t="2200">the miners who make the strategic smart decisions</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2205">36:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2205" data-t="2205">to rethink their their business model to get cheaper, to get leaner,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2210" data-t="2210">and for in some cases</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2212" data-t="2212">partner with the Trump administration to get subsidies,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2215" data-t="2215">they can corner</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2217" data-t="2217">that future and be the ones who take over</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2221" data-t="2221">the hash rate and solo, you know, the solo miners,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2225">37:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2225" data-t="2225">they could take over pools.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2227" data-t="2227">It can be, it can be a huge, you know, on chain warner, but you wanna get in early. You wanna, you wanna see this coming. Yeah. I mean,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2235">37:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2235" data-t="2235">you you think it would be fair to predict that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2238" data-t="2238">the future bid or the the bid acts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2242" data-t="2242">will</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2244" data-t="2244">be a lot more predominant</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2246" data-t="2246">in determining network hash rate versus some of these other</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2250">37:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2250" data-t="2250">miners, or is that too bullish? Some people might say that it's too early or that it's too bullish. But if you look at</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2258" data-t="2258">one is shaking up the AI</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2261" data-t="2261">industry right now and like totally causing everybody to rethink every it's becoming</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2267" data-t="2267">to the point where these large language models are becoming commoditized and they're becoming</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2272" data-t="2272">deprecated</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2273" data-t="2273">within a few days, a few weeks, but then the next one comes out and they're spending so much money to build these</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2279">37:59</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2279" data-t="2279">and people didn't think that Elon</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2282" data-t="2282">could launch</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2283" data-t="2283">all the GPUs for their AI project and get it running and working</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2288" data-t="2288">in less than like two years but they did it in a few months and people laughed at them And then this deep sea came out and proved that it can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2295" data-t="2295">outperform these huge operations, these huge corporate VC ventures.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2300" data-t="2300">And then deep sea comes around and proves they can be done for so much cheaper.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2303">38:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2303" data-t="2303">And then somebody has, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2306" data-t="2306">people are talking about the fact</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2309" data-t="2309">that bit, BitAxis</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2310" data-t="2310">able to solo mine blocks,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2312" data-t="2312">it's obsolete in some of these big</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2315" data-t="2315">mining pools and some of these big mining operations.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2318">38:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2318" data-t="2318">It's just,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2319" data-t="2319">it's a race to zero, a race to zero, you know, hash rate. It's a very fascinating time.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2325">38:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2325" data-t="2325">I think this Not a race to zero hash rate. A race to to zero cost hash rate. Yeah. I think when you when you're able to mine with a bid ax, it's such a low cost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2336" data-t="2336">It really kind of kills</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2338" data-t="2338">Peter Todd's argument</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2340" data-t="2340">about the security budget. Oh, yeah. Exactly</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2344">39:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2344" data-t="2344">it. Your wife won't complain</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2346" data-t="2346">about the Bitaxe noise.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2349" data-t="2349">Their neighbors won't complain. I mean, part of the if things don't change,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2354" data-t="2354">people are going to be so bullish in Bitcoin mining and these big operations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2358" data-t="2358">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2359" data-t="2359">if you don't capitulate</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2362">39:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2362" data-t="2362">and buy Bitcoin,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2364" data-t="2364">you will not be able to afford to live</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2367" data-t="2367">any place far enough away from a Marathon mining operation to not lose your mind. So we will we want an alternative to things like Marathon. Makes sense. The F2 pool.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2377" data-t="2377">And ocean, if you don't wanna figure out how to run knots, you know, you don't necessarily wanna use ocean if you wanna make money. Yeah. I mean, if you if you don't believe</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2386">39:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2386" data-t="2386">in the ideal</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2388" data-t="2388">pool, if you don't believe that people should eat cats,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2392" data-t="2392">then just solo mine instead of using ocean.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2395" data-t="2395">It's pretty obvious. I I think that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2398" data-t="2398">yeah. We we've got some pretty crazy weeks ahead of us. But,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2402" data-t="2402">before we hop over to Fountain Boost, I I just wanna talk about some projects we're working on. So I'm excited.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2409">40:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2409" data-t="2409">You are</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2411" data-t="2411">working on your own merch line right now. You've got the 40 HPW</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2415">40:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2415" data-t="2415">Yeah. Yeah. The forty hours per week. We've been starting with the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2420" data-t="2420">the not Marlboro pack,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2422" data-t="2422">forty hours per week. The, you know, the Silk Road</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2425" data-t="2425">edition commemorating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2427" data-t="2427">Ross being freed.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2429" data-t="2429">And then, you know, just a bunch of other ones like</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2431">40:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2431" data-t="2431">I wish, you know, it's for the wife. It's when the my husband is a Bitcoin podcaster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2436" data-t="2436">or I wish I was a Bitcoin podcast so my husband would listen to me</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2442" data-t="2442">and, you know, things like that and there's also one if you, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2446" data-t="2446">just a Bitcoin podcast listener, there's a forty hours per week</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2450" data-t="2450">t shirt, some merch, some swag for you especially to wear them by any time you get to the Bitcoin conferences this year.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2456" data-t="2456">If you don't want to wear PodConf approved gear and there's one coming out just with forty hours per week we talked about</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2463">41:03</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2463" data-t="2463">on the previous podcast, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2466" data-t="2466">donating to us to inspire, you know, policing us on on fountain roll or taking that and changing your nose to your throat or handle to forty hours per week to get that out there because honestly forty hours per week is how you,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2479" data-t="2479">it's how you think's worse, how you orange pull the world. That's what Dennis is doing. That's what we're doing. Yeah. I mean, when you when you wear a merch,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2486">41:26</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2486" data-t="2486">you're making a statement.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2488" data-t="2488">You're changing the world.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2489" data-t="2489">There's not a lot of products</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2492" data-t="2492">where you could change the world positively. Like, if you wear Nike clothing,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2496" data-t="2496">you change the world, but it's in a negative way. You you</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2500" data-t="2500">support child slavery.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2502">41:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2502" data-t="2502">Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2503" data-t="2503">When you wear the 40 HPW</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2508" data-t="2508">gear,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2509" data-t="2509">you're supporting the intellectual Silk Road. You're you're actually</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2512" data-t="2512">undermining PodCon.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2515" data-t="2515">You're</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2517">41:57</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2517" data-t="2517">you're also supporting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2518" data-t="2518">Bitcoin podcast and Bitcoin podcast listeners. And</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2523" data-t="2523">a huge part of creating change is creating culture. And we need to we need to create</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2529" data-t="2529">a culture</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2530" data-t="2530">where the coolest people in the world are those that are listening to the most Bitcoin podcasts.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2535" data-t="2535">They're the individuals that are the best equipped you know, like,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2539">42:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2539" data-t="2539">it it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2540" data-t="2540">it's a form of credentialism.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2543" data-t="2543">Right?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2545" data-t="2545">It's a form of credentialism.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2547">42:27</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2547" data-t="2547">Think about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2548" data-t="2548">think about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2550" data-t="2550">twenty, thirty years ago. If you saw somebody</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2553" data-t="2553">who wore a Harvard t shirt or a Yale hoodie, you're like, This person</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2558" data-t="2558">is qualified</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2559" data-t="2559">to answer my questions,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2561">42:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2561" data-t="2561">to peer review my paper,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2563" data-t="2563">to talk about politics,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2565" data-t="2565">but now anybody can buy those anybody can just you can just get a print shop from China to put Harvard law school on the t shirt and you can wear it and nobody will appease you still in valor now</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2574" data-t="2574">there's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2575" data-t="2575">the only people who</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2577" data-t="2577">anybody's gonna respect and, and, and wanna have these conversations when they need help is gonna be somebody who</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2584">43:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2584" data-t="2584">they know that that person is a Bitcoin podcaster or a Bitcoin podcast listener. Yeah. If you, if you see a man</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2592">43:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2592" data-t="2592">wearing a yamaka,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2593" data-t="2593">you know that the person is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2597" data-t="2597">they they have the correct credentials</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2599" data-t="2599">to help you afford your taxes. And wearing the 40 HPW gear is</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2604" data-t="2604">kinda the same way. Like, you you're talking to somebody that's credentialed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2608" data-t="2608">enough to on to explain game theory to you, to explain</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2612">43:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2612" data-t="2612">Right. And and mac or kids walking down the street with their parents or, you know, watching TV, they see</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2619" data-t="2619">somebody wearing a Bitcoin podcast t shirt that's like, I wanna be like that person when I grow up.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2624" data-t="2624">Somebody who's like, I wanna be a first responder. Well, a Bitcoin podcaster</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2627" data-t="2627">often, it oftentimes</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2629" data-t="2629">is a first responder.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2631" data-t="2631">Breaking news,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2632">43:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2632" data-t="2632">huge game theory altering</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2635" data-t="2635">situations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2636" data-t="2636">are are taking place. It's Bitcoin podcasters who are responding to that first and helping people navigate the chaos</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2643" data-t="2643">of of the clown world in this, like, Bitcoin has already won future. 100%.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2649">44:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2649" data-t="2649">So, yeah, go over to go over to OrangeLabel. We'll have the we'll have the link in the show notes.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2654" data-t="2654">Go check out the gear.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2656" data-t="2656">Go check out the merch. Check it all out. Help usher in a bright orange feature. The next topic I wanna talk about as far as housekeeping.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2665" data-t="2665">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2666" data-t="2666">there's a couple projects I'm working on. So one of the projects</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2669" data-t="2669">I'm working on is I'm working on compiling</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2673">44:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2673" data-t="2673">all of</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2674" data-t="2674">our past articles</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2676" data-t="2676">into yearly books. So we're gonna do a book with all the articles from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2681" data-t="2681">2023</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2682" data-t="2682">and 2024</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2683" data-t="2683">that will be available</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2685">44:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2685" data-t="2685">eventually for purchase on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2688" data-t="2688">Liberty Under Attack. I'm excited about that. I had a call with Rayo about that. So I I think that's gonna it's gonna take a little bit. It's gonna take a period of of probably a couple months to get that accomplished, but that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2701" data-t="2701">that, I think, will be helpful for individuals. If you're if you're interested in something like that,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2707" data-t="2707">just,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2708" data-t="2708">ping me because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2711" data-t="2711">I wanna gauge interest</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2713">45:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2713" data-t="2713">on how many</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2714" data-t="2714">people would be interested in something like this. Another</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2718">45:18</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2718" data-t="2718">Oh, yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2719">45:19</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2719" data-t="2719">Another project, so that Rod and I have been working on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2723" data-t="2723">is we are going to the bu do the bugles.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2726" data-t="2726">And the bugles are the Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2729" data-t="2729">the premier</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2730" data-t="2730">Bitcoin podcasting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2732" data-t="2732">awards.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2733">45:33</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2733" data-t="2733">Is an award The only Bitcoin Podcasting Awards and it's going to be the biggest and the best</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2739" data-t="2739">and by far the most bullish.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2741">45:41</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2741" data-t="2741">Totally.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2742">45:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2742" data-t="2742">And PodConf</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2743" data-t="2743">is we're part Ayo.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2745" data-t="2745">One thing we don't always agree with PodConf.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2748" data-t="2748">We don't always</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2750" data-t="2750">trust</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2751" data-t="2751">we certainly can never trust BotComp.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2753">45:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2753" data-t="2753">But we both share</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2755" data-t="2755">a very important vision, which is getting people to listen to forty hours per week and advocating</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2761" data-t="2761">for Bitcoin podcasters. That's why they're helping us</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2765" data-t="2765">they're helping us put this on. So, you know,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2768" data-t="2768">it will be very well labeled when you're watching</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2771" data-t="2771">a PodComp ad or a PodComp chill during the bugles,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2776">46:16</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2776" data-t="2776">but the rest of them will meet share signal. So that's something to look out for. We do not have a hard date,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2782" data-t="2782">but we're planning on doing that q one of this year. So we're gonna get it done before the year's over. So look out or sorry, before the quarter's over. So look out for that. We'll keep you posted. But I think it's gonna be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2797" data-t="2797">one of the most important</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2799" data-t="2799">events to happen to Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2801" data-t="2801">I think this is gonna be bigger than the Sailor one hundred k party.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2806" data-t="2806">This is gonna be bigger than the Satoshi roundtable that's happening in Dubai.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2811">46:51</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2811" data-t="2811">This is gonna be bigger than the Bitcoin magazine conference</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2814" data-t="2814">even. This is gonna be an earth shattering event</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2818" data-t="2818">because</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2820" data-t="2820">Bitcoin podcasters are the front line. They're the ones that determine the price of Bitcoin.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2825" data-t="2825">They're the ones that are teaching the masses</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2828" data-t="2828">how to buy non k KYC cigarettes, how how to live dignified</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2832">47:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2832" data-t="2832">lives, how to afford their taxes. They're the ones</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2836" data-t="2836">that are propping</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2837" data-t="2837">up the global economy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2839" data-t="2839">on their backs</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2841" data-t="2841">like Atlas.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2844" data-t="2844">And</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2845">47:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2845" data-t="2845">for so long, they they haven't gotten the recognition that they deserve.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2849" data-t="2849">They've just been shit on. You know, people have said stupid things like, oh, wow.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2854" data-t="2854">Another Bitcoin podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2856" data-t="2856">When in reality, they should</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2859" data-t="2859">they should be they should have a national holiday</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2862" data-t="2862">for Bitcoin podcasters where where people go and they they thank a Bitcoin podcaster.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2867">47:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2867" data-t="2867">Yeah. You should get you should get</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2869" data-t="2869">discounts at Olive Garden,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2871" data-t="2871">just like veterans do.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2873" data-t="2873">It should be a day similar to veterans day, just show showing respect for Bitcoin podcast and just giving them the validation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2881" data-t="2881">that they've earned</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2882" data-t="2882">and rep part of what we're trying to do</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2885">48:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2885" data-t="2885">with the bugles. And yes, it's gonna be huge and it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2889" data-t="2889">it's gonna be important and and we've we've already sent in invitations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2892" data-t="2892">to the president. We've extended invitations</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2895" data-t="2895">to Peter McCormick.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2896" data-t="2896">We've extended invitations to the Four Horsemen of Podkoff. We extended invitations to Dennis Porter to be a part and many more.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2904" data-t="2904">And if there's anybody in the influencer, especially the ones we named, that you would like</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2908">48:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2908" data-t="2908">to make sure that they know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2910" data-t="2910">that you're looking forward to their participation</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2914" data-t="2914">and their in the in this</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2916" data-t="2916">seminal moment for Bitcoin Podcast, the things that they owe,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2920" data-t="2920">everything that they've got to Bitcoin Podcasts and it's time to to to celebrate that and let them know</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2926">48:46</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2926" data-t="2926">maybe we can get the president. You know, he he said maybe. Yep. We'll have to we'll have to ping Barron because Barron understands</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2933" data-t="2933">the importance of podcast.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2936" data-t="2936">A lot of people</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2937" data-t="2937">are under the belief that the only reason that that the president did Rogan</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2942" data-t="2942">was because of Barron.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2944" data-t="2944">So No. And If anybody has any connections there, let us know. Everybody's everybody's</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2949">49:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2949" data-t="2949">welcome. Even though we don't always see eye to eye, we're even we'd love to have Pledger be a part</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2955" data-t="2955">of the bugles. Would</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2957">49:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2957" data-t="2957">you I don't know.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2959" data-t="2959">Pledder might be hard to appease because he has a pretty</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2963" data-t="2963">strict purity test when it comes to participating in something. He might</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2968">49:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kailey Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2968" data-t="2968">he might have that. I think it would be I think it'd be really</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2972">49:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2972" data-t="2972">fitting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2974" data-t="2974">and</span> <span class="cue" data-t="2974">an honor to have Platter</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2977" data-t="2977">and Mike Brock and they could be kind of like sitting up in the balcony, kind of like the two critics in the, in the, in the Mothicks,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2984" data-t="2984">all the Mothicks movies</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2986" data-t="2986">have them clatter and and in my brock, giving their honest opinion, counting, you know, impeachable offenses, fighting the shit winners. It's, you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-2994">49:54</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-2994" data-t="2994">that would be for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-2996" data-t="2996">for them. It'd be for the people who are they really like to follow their their, their influence on on the timeline. Totally. One one question</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3005">50:05</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3005" data-t="3005">I have. So this might be too long of a tangent to really</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3010" data-t="3010">get into, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3012" data-t="3012">Tim Pool has been missing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3014" data-t="3014">I don't know if you knew this.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3017" data-t="3017">Nobody knows where Tim Pool is. He No. Has not been podcasting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3021" data-t="3021">at all this week. So</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3024">50:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3024" data-t="3024">Mommy worked better. What did what is there any conspiracy theories about this?</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3029">50:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3029" data-t="3029">Well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3030" data-t="3030">whenever</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3032" data-t="3032">this is something that I learned</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3034" data-t="3034">working in</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3035" data-t="3035">mainstream media is that whenever</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3040" data-t="3040">a big media personality</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3042">50:42</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3042" data-t="3042">disappears,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3043" data-t="3043">there's a chance that they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3046" data-t="3046">are essentially getting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3047" data-t="3047">reprogrammed</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3048" data-t="3048">by the CIA.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3050" data-t="3050">So</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3050">50:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" data-t="3050">they're going and getting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3052" data-t="3052">some training.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3054" data-t="3054">And we know that the Trump administration</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3056" data-t="3056">is really shaking up the intelligence agencies.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3059" data-t="3059">And as a result of that, he's gonna be shaking up</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3062" data-t="3062">how the intelligence agencies</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3064">51:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3064" data-t="3064">interact</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3065" data-t="3065">with the media.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3067" data-t="3067">And so I wonder if</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3070" data-t="3070">that's what's happening, if Tim is working with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3074" data-t="3074">the MAGA contingent</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3076" data-t="3076">of the CIA</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3077">51:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3077" data-t="3077">covertly right now.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3079" data-t="3079">That would be my first</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3081" data-t="3081">question. But, yeah,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3083" data-t="3083">there's not a lot of people throwing theories out there. They they probably just assume he's on vacation or something. Looks like he this podcast was two days ago. Is he missing since then?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3093" data-t="3093">Well, he's having he's having other people do</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3096">51:36</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3096" data-t="3096">the Timcast IRL podcast. Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. So if people who listen to the All In podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3103" data-t="3103">the main co one of the main hosts, David Sacks, was recruited into the Trump deep state.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3109" data-t="3109">Therein, he's been absent from that podcast as well. So, you know, we may see Tim with</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3116" data-t="3116">a with a new role. Maybe he's gonna be part of Doge. Do you think Doge is going to be recruiting podcasters? Well, absolutely. The first Doge spaces, so by the time you listen to this, it'll be two way, but it was tonight, Sunday, well, Monday morning at midnight,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3131" data-t="3131">time zone,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3133" data-t="3133">Elon didn't say, but he's doing</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3135">52:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3135" data-t="3135">the first spaces to give an update on the Doge progress</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3139" data-t="3139">So that is going to spin out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3141" data-t="3141">from regular spaces or irregular spaces, recurring</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3145" data-t="3145">spaces,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3146" data-t="3146">then it's definitely going to start trickling into podcasts and become</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3150">52:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3150" data-t="3150">the focus of making podcasts, I think. Cool. Well, shall we get into the fountain boost? Let's do it. I had another tangent I wanna go on, but then I forgot. So the last show we did</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3161" data-t="3161">was titled The Future is Wrapped. Total boost for the show</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3165" data-t="3165">comes out to 31,000</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3167" data-t="3167">sets.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3168" data-t="3168">We had the return</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3171" data-t="3171">of miss</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3172">52:52</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3172" data-t="3172">four twenty. We haven't heard from her a real while. Maybe she was at the same place Tim Pool was. I wonder I wonder we we already said she's not a fan, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3180" data-t="3180">I guess we'll verify for sure that she's complaining about being</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3185" data-t="3185">unemployed and laid off for having a bunch of PTO to go to conferences</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3189" data-t="3189">in terms of non KYC cigarettes with Bitcoin podcasters</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3193">53:13</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3193" data-t="3193">this year. Mhmm. Yeah. Well, I don't know about your end, but on my end, the first boost</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3199" data-t="3199">is from anonymous.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3202" data-t="3202">I'm not sure if that's a fountain bug or if they're actually named anonymous.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3207" data-t="3207">Can you tell on</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3208" data-t="3208">your</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3209">53:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3209" data-t="3209">Well, I checked that earlier. That's what I thought.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3213" data-t="3213">So miss</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3214" data-t="3214">Hollenot changed her username or is showing up as anonymous switch.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3219" data-t="3219">Couldn't be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3221" data-t="3221">a Fed sign.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3223">53:43</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3223" data-t="3223">It could be.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3224" data-t="3224">Very well could be a Fed sign. I need to check</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3227" data-t="3227">on a different device.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3229" data-t="3229">Actually, it doesn't matter. We'll just read it. So anonymous for 20,000 sats says,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3234" data-t="3234">I'm not looking forward to a wrapped feature. I I don't think you have a choice. Like, you're just gonna have to learn how to deal with the wrapped feature. It's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3244" data-t="3244">it's one of those harsh realities</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3247">54:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3247" data-t="3247">that a lot of people need to find a way</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3251" data-t="3251">to come to peace with, that the world is changing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3254" data-t="3254">It's changing incredibly quickly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3257" data-t="3257">Might not be changing in the ways that they</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3259" data-t="3259">find ideal,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3261" data-t="3261">but it change doesn't mean things are necessarily bad.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3265">54:25</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3265" data-t="3265">I don't know if you've got any thoughts on that, Rod. I don't think it's productive to look at it as good or bad. I think it's best to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3274" data-t="3274">just accept it for what it is and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3277">54:37</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3277" data-t="3277">adapt. Yeah. You just have to accept the game theory.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3280" data-t="3280">You have to realize that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3282" data-t="3282">this is all part of Satoshi's plans.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3285" data-t="3285">You</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3286" data-t="3286">it</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3288" data-t="3288">I used to I used to stay up at night</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3290">54:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3290" data-t="3290">thinking about the security of the Bitcoin network</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3294" data-t="3294">until</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3295" data-t="3295">I got on the Bitcoin Twitter, and I saw all the work that Dennis is doing.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3300" data-t="3300">There we have so many juggernauts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3303" data-t="3303">on our side</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3305" data-t="3305">pushing for a bright orange feature. There there might be some</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3309">55:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3309" data-t="3309">questions about David Bailey's tactics, but it doesn't mean that we're</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3314" data-t="3314">losing or anything bad is necessarily happening. I feel like the wrapped</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3319" data-t="3319">the wrapped feature we're careening towards is actually</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3322">55:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3322" data-t="3322">incredibly bullish. Yeah. I mean, I</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3325" data-t="3325">you could you you could spend your time complaining about</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3329" data-t="3329">what you wish was,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3330" data-t="3330">but isn't,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3332" data-t="3332">or you can stay humble and stack more apt sats. Well, thank you for the boost, anonymous. Next one</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3338" data-t="3338">is from Dave.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3340">55:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3340" data-t="3340">Forty hours per week. Dave from New Zealand. 2,100</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3343" data-t="3343">sats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3345" data-t="3345">What Ross Did podcast will be the number one Bitcoin podcast of 2025.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3350" data-t="3350">Hashtag forty hours per week headphones. That comes in from Nostra.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3354" data-t="3354">Yeah. That was my prediction, essentially.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3359" data-t="3359">I think that,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3362">56:02</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3362" data-t="3362">you you can you condensed it down to what it's gonna be What Ross Did, number one, 2025,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3369" data-t="3369">and</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3369">56:09</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" data-t="3369">I'll be listening. Totally. I think the What Ross Did podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3373" data-t="3373">would be</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3375">56:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3375" data-t="3375">very interesting podcast. Yeah. Yeah, I mean,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3378" data-t="3378">it's gonna be big,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3380" data-t="3380">but I think people wanna know what Ross is gonna do. I think he can I think the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3384" data-t="3384">well,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3385" data-t="3385">what Ross did would be a great, biography so he can tell his story</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3390">56:30</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3390" data-t="3390">instead of what the the media says his story was? I'm trying to it doesn't matter. I keep on trying to do things that don't matter.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3397" data-t="3397">Getting distracted over here. Thank you, Dave.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3400" data-t="3400">Point 100 zaps. I didn't know Dave was from New Zealand. So that means Dave talks funny.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3407">56:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3407" data-t="3407">Oh, yeah. It wouldn't be funny to hear Heneman Shinobi already on Twitter spaces.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3413">56:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3413" data-t="3413">Yeah. Our last,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3415" data-t="3415">alright, but not last boost.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3418" data-t="3418">Our next boost is from</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3419" data-t="3419">our good friend</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3421" data-t="3421">in regular booster, BTC</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3423" data-t="3423">onboard</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3424">57:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3424" data-t="3424">for 300¢,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3425" data-t="3425">and it's just a bunch of,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3427" data-t="3427">lightning emojis.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3429" data-t="3429">So</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3430" data-t="3430">what one of the things that's in BTC on board's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3434" data-t="3434">bio</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3435">57:15</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3435" data-t="3435">or or Noster name is hashtag l enhance</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3439" data-t="3439">or hashtag CTV.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3442" data-t="3442">The men pool cleared this week, and you you astutely pointed out that that CTV shells have been incredibly quiet. Yep. They've they've really been</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3452">57:32</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3452" data-t="3452">using yellow journalism,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3454" data-t="3454">scare tactics, intimidation,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3457" data-t="3457">and just very aggressive,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3459" data-t="3459">spaces appearances</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3461" data-t="3461">to, and it, you know, making,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3463" data-t="3463">Reuben sandwich there,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3465">57:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3465" data-t="3465">kind of their gangs and we'll</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3467" data-t="3467">push in this covenants and</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3470" data-t="3470">these</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3471" data-t="3471">soft force and these enhancements to Bitcoin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3474" data-t="3474">saying that we need to so people we can scale to the Global South being able to get off Tether on Tron</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3481" data-t="3481">but unfortunately there's just not the</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3484">58:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3484" data-t="3484">block</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3486" data-t="3486">space demand</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3487" data-t="3487">to make these necessary because people have decided to use layer two's like wrapped Bitcoin and the ETF and MicroStrategy</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3495" data-t="3495">and these have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3497" data-t="3497">been shields for plebs to be able to transact</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3501" data-t="3501">on chain</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3503">58:23</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3503" data-t="3503">sovereignly at a low cost,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3505" data-t="3505">be able to consolidate their UTXOs.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3507" data-t="3507">I don't know if it can last</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3510" data-t="3510">but for</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3511" data-t="3511">now,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3512" data-t="3512">they're, you know,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3514">58:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3514" data-t="3514">they're it's kinda like climate change alarmism. They think that, you know, in five years, the climate's gonna flood everything or the the mempool is gonna be flooded and it's you're just not gonna be able to afford to transact on chain, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3527" data-t="3527">the mempool clear where you it cleared we were above a 100 k. So it's very it's it's</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3535" data-t="3535">yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3536">58:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3536" data-t="3536">Well, if you listen</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3538" data-t="3538">closely to Luke Junior,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3541" data-t="3541">he made a con</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3543" data-t="3543">the mempool</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3544">59:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3544" data-t="3544">denier. He doesn't believe the mempool exists. Yeah. He I don't know if if he means that literally or figuratively, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3552" data-t="3552">maybe, you know, is it cleared mempool? Does it exist? Maybe that's a philosophical question.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3557">59:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3557" data-t="3557">Mhmm. Yeah. You gotta met</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3560" data-t="3560">metaphorically</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3561" data-t="3561">instead of literally.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3562" data-t="3562">Though</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3563" data-t="3563">knowing Luke,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3566" data-t="3566">Luke is autistic,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3568">59:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3568" data-t="3568">so he doesn't tend to speak in metaphors.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3572" data-t="3572">He tends to everything he says tends to be</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3575" data-t="3575">taken literally. Right? That's true.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3578">59:38</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3578" data-t="3578">We'll have to follow that and see what he means.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3581" data-t="3581">I mean, a lot of people were calling retarded for that.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3584">59:44</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3584" data-t="3584">It'd be interesting to interview Luke. Luke, we'd like to have you on behind the podcast</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3589" data-t="3589">at some point</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3591" data-t="3591">and and hear you explain</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3593">59:53</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3593" data-t="3593">your thoughts on the mempool to us. Yeah. The last, you have a BTC onboarding.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3598" data-t="3598">Thank you for posting. I wanna know what your opinion is on covenants now that the mempool is clear. Do we still need them? Are you gonna take them out of your your handle?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3607" data-t="3607">Let us know. The last of the news is from Delwin</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3611" data-t="3611">E, 200 sats.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3614" data-t="3614">His message is LOL</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3616" data-t="3616">a lot. Thank you, Delwin. Thank you very much. I don't</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3620">1:00:20</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3620" data-t="3620">personally</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3621" data-t="3621">think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3622" data-t="3622">that the topics</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3624" data-t="3624">of conversation last week, I thought they were very serious. I wouldn't think they were very funny</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3628" data-t="3628">but, you know, everybody's got a different time preference for humor, so</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3633" data-t="3633">thanks for listening.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3634">1:00:34</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3634" data-t="3634">Mhmm. Well, before we wrap up the show, I just wanna say, I think</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3639" data-t="3639">alright. I wanna give a shout out to an individual</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3642" data-t="3642">that's been making a lot of moves, an individual that's been talking about doing their own Bitcoin podcast,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3648" data-t="3648">an individual that's engaging</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3651" data-t="3651">in the</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3652" data-t="3652">the value for value music ecosystem,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3656">1:00:56</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3656" data-t="3656">and is really acting</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3658" data-t="3658">as a disruptor trying to bootstrap</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3661" data-t="3661">a music label.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3664" data-t="3664">And that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3666" data-t="3666">is Philip d</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3667">1:01:07</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3667" data-t="3667">McCombs. Cleveland.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3669" data-t="3669">Shout out to Cleveland. Yep.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3672">1:01:12</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3672" data-t="3672">Shout out to Cleveland. Shout out to the Cleveland Bitcoiners.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3675" data-t="3675">Shout out to</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3677" data-t="3677">twenty</span> <span class="cue" data-t="3677">twenty Innovations.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3679" data-t="3679">Shout out</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3680" data-t="3680">to all the artists</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3682">1:01:22</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3682" data-t="3682">that</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3684" data-t="3684">up is representing. Shout out. If I wanna</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3688">1:01:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3688" data-t="3688">if I wanna add to my</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3690" data-t="3690">predictions</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3691" data-t="3691">for 2025</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3692" data-t="3692">and I wanna say</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3694" data-t="3694">it's contingent</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3695" data-t="3695">on the hustle. It's contingent on the grind. It's contingent</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3699">1:01:39</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3699" data-t="3699">on the proof of work. But I think if Philip</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3703" data-t="3703">grinds hard enough to build his Bitcoin music label,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3707" data-t="3707">that by '20 the end of twenty twenty five,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3710">1:01:50</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3710" data-t="3710">Aubrey Strobel will follow him back on Twitter. I'm kind of amazed she hasn't already. I don't know why she's,</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3718" data-t="3718">hanging out with that Jacob Penny guy when she could be hanging out with Daniel Penny. Yeah. Yeah.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3724">1:02:04</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3724" data-t="3724">Daniel Penny. Yeah. I mean, it's hard</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3727" data-t="3727">it's it's hard to know</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3729" data-t="3729">if the female mind, but</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3731" data-t="3731">I think that with a little more proof of work, Philip will catch your eye. Mhmm.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3737">1:02:17</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3737" data-t="3737">One last thing I wanna say before ending the show that I'm excited about. We're working with Maggie Morris</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3743" data-t="3743">on a new</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3744" data-t="3744">segment</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3745" data-t="3745">of the show. We</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3747" data-t="3747">have asked her</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3750" data-t="3750">to answer questions,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3751">1:02:31</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3751" data-t="3751">dating advice quest</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3754" data-t="3754">if you are in Orange Shell, if you need</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3758" data-t="3758">if you need dating advice from a credentialed woman, let her know.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3763" data-t="3763">Either</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3764" data-t="3764">put put your questions in the booth</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3767" data-t="3767">or</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3769">1:02:49</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3769" data-t="3769">message her or tag her on Twitter. Yeah. Eventually, we may come up with, like, a non KYC</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3774" data-t="3774">phone hotline for you to call in then record your message but for now, you know, you can DM her directly Crypto Epstein</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3783" data-t="3783">maybe an audio message just write to her or put it in the boosts</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3786" data-t="3786">Do whatever you want to do. We'll make sure it gets to her. And if it makes the the episode, the segment, she will answer</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3794" data-t="3794">the questions that you have</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3797" data-t="3797">to women about how as a Bitcoin or as an orange pilled individual, meaning orange cell,</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3804">1:03:24</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3804" data-t="3804">how you can</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3805" data-t="3805">solve your problems with getting a girlfriend.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3808">1:03:28</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3808" data-t="3808">Totally.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3809">1:03:29</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Rod Palmer</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3809" data-t="3809">Looking forward to that one. But, yeah, you got you got any last things before we wrap up the this episode? No. No. I think that's I think we cover everything. I think we're excited for the bureaus, and we're excited for forty hours per week. You want a t shirt?</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3822" data-t="3822">Go get one. Support us. Support the culture.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3825">1:03:45</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3825" data-t="3825">But at very least, don't stop listening to forty hours per week. Well, thanks for tuning in, and we'll catch you next week on the b o weekly.</span> <span class="cue" id="t-3862" data-t="3862">Chain.</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3880">1:04:40</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Kailey Welch</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3880" data-t="3880">And that's just the</span></span></p> + +<p class="cue-p"><a class="cue-t" href="#t-3887">1:04:47</a><span class="cue-body"><b class="cue-who">Richard Greaser</b> <span class="cue" id="t-3887" data-t="3887">start.</span></span></p> +