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diff --git a/wiki/storylines/nic-carter-vs-bitcoin-twitter.md b/wiki/storylines/nic-carter-vs-bitcoin-twitter.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..678d444a @@ -0,0 +1,61 @@ +--- +title: Nic Carter vs. Bitcoin Twitter +type: storyline +status: confirmed +sources: + - raw/news/nic-carter-finds-new-found-hobby-floating-in-the-dead-sea-tweeting-about-bitcoin-maximalis.json + - raw/episodes/recovering-from-a-noncompliant-4th-bugle-weekly-episode-16/bundle.json + - raw/episodes/the-quantum-quarrel-has-commenced-bugle-weekly-episode-90/bundle.json + - raw/episodes/musings-of-a-thinkboi-with-rob-warren-btp-episode-29/bundle.json + - raw/episodes/sound-vibes-in-the-fiat-burlesque-bugle-weekly-episode-107/bundle.json +--- + +**Nic Carter vs. Bitcoin Twitter** is the long antagonism between [[characters/nic-carter|Nic Carter]] and the maximalist wing of [[orgs/bitcoin-twitter|Bitcoin Twitter]]. It begins as a leisure activity, hardens into a FUD supply line, and ends — for now — with Carter's position mocked off a conference stage he was not standing on. + +**Who's in it:** [[characters/nic-carter|Nic Carter]], [[orgs/bitcoin-twitter|Bitcoin Twitter]], [[characters/richard-greaser|Richard Greaser]], [[characters/rod-palmer|Rod Palmer]], [[characters/rob-warren|Rob Warren]], [[characters/coinicarus|@Coinicarus]]. + +## The hobby (2023) + +The founding account is Carter's own. Asked about a tweet decrying Bitcoin Maximalism, he described the practice as recreation: "I have found a new hobby which is floating in the Dead Sea and tweeting mean things about mean people... I realized how much fun it was and embraced the salt."[^dead-sea] The arrangement was reported as bilateral — [[characters/coinicarus|@Coinicarus]] farmed the opposing side by warning people off "The Saltiest Sea Dog," and the dogpilers got their camaraderie.[^coinicarus] At this stage nobody in the story claims to want it to stop. + +## Too credentialed to fight (2024) + +By the Nashville era the feud had reached the stage of proposed physical combat. Asked who would win a cage match between himself and Carter, [[characters/richard-greaser|Richard Greaser]] declined on paperwork grounds: Carter had advertised for a C-list influencer, and "I didn't really meet his requirements. I actually exceeded them. I was too credentialed to take the fight."[^cage-match] The refusal is the credentialism bit doing double duty as an exit. [[characters/rod-palmer|Rod Palmer]] settled the hypothetical on other evidence entirely, ruling that no vaper "has ever submitted or defeated a real cigarette smoker... in combat."[^vaper] + +## The quantum campaign (2025–2026) + +Carter's late-period contribution to the discourse is quantum risk. [[characters/rod-palmer|Rod Palmer]] named him the supplier of the week's premium FUD — the story that the Chinese are building secret quantum computers "underneath Shanghai or somewhere somewhere underground... and they're gonna use those quantum computers to steal Satoshi's coins."[^quantum-fud] Whether the coins in question are [[characters/satoshi|Satoshi]]'s is the least examined part of the claim. + +[[characters/richard-greaser|Greaser]] read the campaign as career planning rather than conviction: [[characters/luke-dashjr|Luke Dashjr]] and the Knots-side figure the transcript renders as "mechanic" had, in his account, "presented a road map for how to take over Podkoff" — antagonise your way onto the main stage.[^roadmap] The stated ambition is applause: Carter "wants to go to the Bitcoin conferences and debate people on the main stage. He wants the plebs to be clapping for him."[^clapping] + +The campaign metastasised into a general-purpose culprit. When the panel worked through who was responsible for the pioneers disappearing, [[characters/rob-warren|Rob Warren]] rejected the influencers' preferred answer and offered Carter instead: "I thought it was Nick Carter telling all the influencers about, the quantum risk."[^pioneers] + +## Mocked in Vegas (2026) + +The road map did not deliver. Six months of what the show priced as cortisol-spiked posting ended with the verdict from Vegas: "Quantum fight got absolutely mocked in Vegas."[^vegas] Carter was not present. The on-stage rebuttal was credited to a man identified on air only as Justine's husband, and Greaser's assessment was that it "made Nick Carter cry a little bit."[^cry] Carter's star, the panel concluded, is not rising at the moment. + +## Disputed + +The universe carries two incompatible readings of why Carter does this. + +- **Recreation.** Carter's own account, given to the Bugle in 2023: the antagonism is a hobby, practiced for enjoyment while floating in salt water, and profitable to both sides.[^dead-sea] +- **Career strategy.** Greaser's account in 2025: the posting is instrumental, modelled on [[characters/luke-dashjr|Luke Dashjr]], and aimed at a [[orgs/podconf|PodConf]] main stage and pleb applause.[^roadmap][^clapping] + +No source reconciles them, and no one has put the strategy reading to Carter. + +> irl: Nic Carter is a real venture capitalist (Castle Island Ventures) whose 2023 quarrel with Bitcoin maximalists over "toxic maximalism" was a genuine Bitcoin Twitter storyline. The Dead Sea, the cage match and the quantum campaign as told here are the Bugleverse's. + +## Related + +[[storylines/podconf-industrial-complex|The PodConf Industrial Complex]] (the stage Carter is said to want), [[storylines/core-vs-knots-war|Core vs. Knots]] (where the road map was drawn), [[storylines/pleb-slop-wars|The Pleb Slop Wars]], [[storylines/bitcoin-2024-nashville|Bitcoin 2024 Nashville]]. Further Bugle News coverage of Carter, not cited above: [[news/nic-carters-star-identified-currently-in-retrograde|Nic Carter's Star Identified, Currently in Retrograde]], [[news/nick-carter-dyes-hair-blue-starts-calling-everyone-racist-and-transphobic|Nic Carter Vows To Hardfork Bitcoin, Dyes Hair Blue]], [[news/bitcoin-bugle-partners-with-nic-carter-to-make-the-fake-news|Bitcoin Bugle partners with Nic Carter to Make The Fake News]]. + +[^dead-sea]: [[news/nic-carter-finds-new-found-hobby-floating-in-the-dead-sea-tweeting-about-bitcoin-maximalists|Bugle News, 2023-01-13 — "Nic Carter Finds New Found Hobby Floating in the Dead Sea, Tweeting About Bitcoin Maximalists"]]. +[^coinicarus]: [[news/nic-carter-finds-new-found-hobby-floating-in-the-dead-sea-tweeting-about-bitcoin-maximalists|Bugle News, 2023-01-13 — "Nic Carter Finds New Found Hobby Floating in the Dead Sea, Tweeting About Bitcoin Maximalists"]]. +[^cage-match]: [[transcripts/recovering-from-a-noncompliant-4th-bugle-weekly-episode-16#t-3301|Bugle Weekly 16 @ 55:01]]. The ASR renders Greaser as "Richard Grazer". +[^vaper]: [[transcripts/recovering-from-a-noncompliant-4th-bugle-weekly-episode-16#t-3346|Bugle Weekly 16 @ 55:46]]. +[^quantum-fud]: [[transcripts/the-quantum-quarrel-has-commenced-bugle-weekly-episode-90#t-603|Bugle Weekly 90 @ 10:03]]. The attribution to Carter is at t-594; the ASR spells him "Nick Carter" throughout. +[^roadmap]: [[transcripts/the-quantum-quarrel-has-commenced-bugle-weekly-episode-90#t-1005|Bugle Weekly 90 @ 16:45]]. "Podkoff" is the house rendering of PodConf; "mechanic" is also rendered "McKenna" at t-1032 and has no wiki page. +[^clapping]: [[transcripts/the-quantum-quarrel-has-commenced-bugle-weekly-episode-90#t-1016|Bugle Weekly 90 @ 16:56]]. +[^pioneers]: [[transcripts/musings-of-a-thinkboi-with-rob-warren-btp-episode-29#t-1840|BTP 29 @ 30:40]]. ASR "Nick Carter"; the answer Warren rejects is "Noster" (Nostr). +[^vegas]: [[transcripts/sound-vibes-in-the-fiat-burlesque-bugle-weekly-episode-107#t-2640|Bugle Weekly 107 @ 44:00]]. +[^cry]: [[transcripts/sound-vibes-in-the-fiat-burlesque-bugle-weekly-episode-107#t-2636|Bugle Weekly 107 @ 43:56]].